1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 2: Oh good after noon, everybody. You heard the man filling in. 3 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 2: He's the NFL bet in, the former pride of the 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 2: University of Louisville. He's Carry Rhodes. I'm Arnie Spanner in 5 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 2: for the guys from up by game right here on 6 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. How you doing, Carrie. 7 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 3: Arnie doing well. I'm so happy today I can just 8 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 3: sit in turn on all the TV's, watch football and 9 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 3: not worry about Louisville being in a tight game the 10 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 3: other night and scaring the you know what out of me. 11 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: So I know you got to be happy. By the way, 12 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 2: I want to apologize right off the bat, because I'm 13 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 2: sure there's gonna be a half dozen times I'm gonna 14 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 2: call you, Carrie Woods, don't do any picture the picture 15 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 2: for the cops. Yeah you wow. 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We're here for the next couple hours. 23 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 2: LaVar tj Uschminzada plaques all with the day off, so 24 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 2: Carrie Rhoades and myself will take it through it. 25 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 3: Boy. 26 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 2: A lot of talk about what was gonna happen before 27 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 2: this Michigan Penn State game. We find out there's not 28 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 2: gonna be Jim Harbaugh on the sideline. A lot of 29 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 2: pregame talk on this. First thing I want to ask 30 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 2: it is. I think it's horrible the way this whole 31 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 2: thing came down. I think there's a vendetta. The fact 32 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 2: that they did this suspension on a Friday. Before they 33 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 2: got on the plane. They had to wait up to 34 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 2: the last hour. I suppose to find out if a 35 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: tro temporary restriction was gonna go ahead and be lifted. 36 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 2: It wasn't. He won't be on the sideline. I think 37 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 2: the way this whole thing was handled without due process 38 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: has been disgusting from the start. I'm not a Michigan guy. 39 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 2: I went to Arizona. I think the whole thing has 40 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: been embarrassing. Carrie, what do you. 41 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 3: Think, Yeah, it's it's really embarrassing. Man. Number one, it 42 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 3: just doesn't allocate what's happening as far as the penalties 43 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 3: and supposed penalty penalties and all those things that are 44 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 3: kind of arising at the last minute here, it doesn't 45 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 3: warrant it. And so for me, especially coming from me 46 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 3: as a professional player and knowing that that's just part 47 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 3: of the games gain it's gainsmanship. It's you do everything 48 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 3: you can to get the advantage without breaking the rules, right, 49 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 3: And so this isn't I mean in theory ethically. I 50 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 3: think they said in the big team the ethical part 51 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 3: of it is a big deal for them. But you're 52 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 3: not breaking any real rules. You're trying to get the 53 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 3: best possible situation advantage for your team to go out 54 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 3: and win. And like I said, it's been happening since, 55 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 3: I mean since the beginning of times. You try to 56 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 3: see if you can get any details on the opposing 57 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 3: team that you can within the rules, and it's just 58 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 3: it's unfair. The Michigan there's such a team and they're 59 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 3: gonna be good regardless, and you can go into a game, 60 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 3: into a game if you're the under man team and 61 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 3: know what the team's gonna do and still won't win. 62 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 3: That game or stop that team from doing what they do. 63 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 3: So it's just unfortunate. 64 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: You know, Carol's gonna ask her when is enough enough? 65 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 2: When do you cross that? Like? Look, I understand this 66 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 2: is not the Brady Bunch when Greig accidentally got the 67 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 2: other team's playbook and decided to give it back because 68 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 2: it was the right thing to do. I know people 69 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 2: don't do something like that, But I mean, how far 70 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 2: do you push it? How far do you say, hey, 71 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 2: we want to go ahead and get all this information? 72 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 2: Or is this like taxes? Everybody cheats on their taxes, right, 73 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 2: So is that what's going on in college football? Everybody 74 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 2: cheats in some way or another? Or am I making 75 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 2: too much of this? 76 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 3: Well? I think the key word there is cheat, don't 77 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 3: I don't think they're cheating. I think they're trying to 78 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 3: get every possible advantage that they can. Right. If you're 79 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 3: doing something illegal, it's illegal and you deserve to be 80 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 3: punished for it. Right, that's just that's the I'm I'm 81 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 3: a guy, I'm that guy. I'm the litter of the 82 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 3: law guy. But I also know that what you just said, 83 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 3: everybody tries to get any advantage that they can. You 84 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 3: talk about taxes. Yes, people do that as well, and 85 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna go down that route because I I 86 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 3: don't want the three letter of people coming at me. 87 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 3: But you know, those things happen, right, and so to 88 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 3: put somebody, you know, under the gun, so to speak, 89 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 3: and especially Michigan who's flying high and they's been good, 90 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 3: I mean, we know they're a really good team regardless, 91 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 3: and they're trying to be the best team they can. 92 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 3: I just can't penalize them for that. 93 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 2: All right, Kerrie Rhodes, Arnie Span you're right on Fox 94 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 2: Sports Radio. Will keep you updated. What's going on in 95 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 2: the game. You mentioned the Michigan players. Okay, you're in 96 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 2: the locker room, You've been a player on many levels. 97 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 2: What's their mind frame? Their coach just got taken away 98 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 2: from them. Are they mad? Are they upset? Are they 99 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 2: trying to keep calm? Do they not want to get 100 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 2: too hyped up? You know sometimes yeah, when you're too 101 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 2: hyped up, you could make some mister. You know that 102 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 2: better than anybody. You got to take a deep breath, 103 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 2: you gotta stay with then yourself. What's going through their mind? 104 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 2: Do they really feel it's everybody in the world against them. 105 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 2: What's going through their mind right now, carro oh. 106 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 3: One hundred percent, that's the rallying cry, right they're gonna, 107 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 3: they're gonna, they're gonna go in the locker room and 108 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 3: they're gonna have the pregame speech about it's us against 109 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 3: the world and a fired up Michigan team. I'll take 110 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 3: them any day, And so hopefully they are fired up, 111 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 3: but they also have this controlled this controlled e motion 112 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 3: that they're going to have to have. Also on the 113 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 3: big spot, they're playing a good team here, so you 114 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 3: don't want to go out and be overjuiced and again 115 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 3: start making mental mistakes, because if they don't make mental 116 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 3: mistakes in this game, they're the better team. They're gonna win. 117 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 3: But yes, they're definitely taking the approach of us against 118 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 3: the world, and that's the only way they can't take 119 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 3: it all. 120 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 2: Right, then we'll look at the Penn State players and 121 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 2: i gotta tell you, I'm thinking about what's going through 122 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: their mind. And if I'm Franklin and I'm saying, everybody's saying, 123 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 2: it's Michigan getting this and they're getting robbed, they're getting 124 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 2: this and they getting this taken away, and it's Michigan. 125 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 2: This is Michigan. That well, you know what I would 126 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 2: say to Michigan, blank, you and the horse you rode 127 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 2: in on. Okay, yeah, you think you're gonna come in here, 128 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 2: act all tough, everybody against the world against you, Well 129 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 2: you know what, were the world come through us. It's 130 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: our hometown. Let's see what you got. I don't know, 131 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 2: I could get Penn State pretty fired up if I'm 132 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 2: coach Franklin. If they think they're just gonna waltz on 133 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 2: into Penn State, were a damn good team with a 134 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 2: damn good defense. I think we're on the reestimating Penn 135 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 2: State right now. 136 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 3: Carrie, Oh, no, no question. Penn State's a good team. 137 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 3: They just can't seem to win these big games in 138 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 3: these big spots, right. That's been that's been their deal. 139 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 3: I mean, they have great coaching, you know, great players 140 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 3: to a degree, and then you know they come into 141 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 3: these games against Michigan and Ohio State and they just 142 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 3: they wet the bed, right, So that's kind that's that's 143 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 3: kind of their their mo. But I mean, again, Penn 144 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 3: State's gonna play well they're at home, they play well 145 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 3: at home, their crowd shows up and it's always a 146 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 3: beautiful place to go play and see how their fans 147 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 3: rally behind them. But again, Michigan's the better team if 148 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 3: they're settled and they don't make mistakes, and you know, again, 149 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 3: if they're not too over amped up for this game, 150 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 3: I still see Michigan being able to pull it out. 151 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 2: You know, it's so funny. I mean, we talked about 152 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 2: the players, you're talking about Harbaugh. We talk about everybody 153 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 2: except the offensive coordinator who's now the interim head coach 154 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 2: for this game. Yeah, what does he think? Does he 155 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 2: do anything but screw this up? He can't be aggressive? 156 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 2: Can he He can't say, let's go for it on 157 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 2: fourth down? Or does he have the mindset, hey, I'm 158 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 2: the coach of this team today. Or does he say 159 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 2: I got to think how Harbaugh thinks if Jim would 160 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 2: go forward? What would Jim do? Is he is he 161 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,239 Speaker 2: wear an a bracelet and said, what would Jim. 162 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 3: Do in this situation? 163 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 2: Seriously? I mean, he can't be his own guy Candy. 164 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 2: He's he's just a one possibly three game filling who knows. 165 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 2: But he can't implement his his own style Candy or 166 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 2: or Caddy. He has to say it's like a doctor 167 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 2: filling it. He's got to do what he can. I 168 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 2: don't know. You tell me what's going through his mind 169 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 2: right now. 170 00:07:55,680 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it depends on how involved they're not involved. 171 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 3: John is in this game, right He may not be 172 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 3: on the sidelines, but he could be in his ear. 173 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 3: I don't know the whole dynamics of how that's working, 174 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 3: because it just it just said he can't be on 175 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 3: the sidelines, right, So I don't know if he's not coaching, 176 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So there there's an element 177 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 3: of that that's at play. We don't know. This is 178 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 3: new territory, but you know, as an interim coach or 179 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 3: an acting head coach that comes into a situation like this, 180 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 3: you're usually gonna stick to the game plan that's already 181 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 3: been set in place by the head coach. So I'm 182 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 3: sure he's gonna stick to that a little bit. But again, 183 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 3: you have to be your own man. They have your 184 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 3: own identity on the sideline as well as a coach, 185 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 3: and so it's gonna be interesting to see. I think 186 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 3: I think he's gonna probably stick more to the game 187 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 3: plan here of what Jim already had in play, But 188 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:44,839 Speaker 3: you know again, like I said, it's it's new, it's 189 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 3: uncharted territory, so we'll see. 190 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, what is Jim doing right now? I mean you say, 191 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 2: maybe he's trying to call in plays or something. Oh, 192 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 2: usually he's just a raw rock guy. 193 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 3: Anyway. 194 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 2: When is he sitting in his hotel going to can 195 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 2: you bring up some extra catchup, ordering room service, having 196 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 2: a pepsi or something like that. Is he's sitting by himself. 197 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 2: Is somebody watching the game with him? I I don't 198 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 2: know what is he doing right. 199 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 3: Now, Arnie. He's sitting in the hotel room right now, 200 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 3: and the acting head coach has a shot collar on, 201 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 3: So if he gets too aggressive, there's gonna be a 202 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 3: little you're gonna hear like a buzz reverber rating through 203 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 3: the screen. I think that's probably what's happening right now. 204 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 3: I can only have had doubt. 205 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 2: If he doesn't like something, I gotta feel like he's 206 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 2: got a way to get a hold of the coaching 207 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 2: staff one way or another, or am I He's is 208 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 2: not against the rules. I'm not sure about that. I'm 209 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 2: not even sure that's what we don't know. 210 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 3: We don't know the details of all that right it's 211 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 3: it happens so last minute. I'm sure he has a 212 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 3: way to get in touch. There are some you know, 213 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 3: some appliances on the sideline that can keep people in communication, 214 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 3: and so you know, I think some of those things 215 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 3: are probably taking place right now. 216 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 2: You know that's so funny. And by the way, if 217 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 2: you want to send it real quick, if you want 218 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 2: to send us any tweets, carry twenty five roads. I'm 219 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 2: in stinking genius one and Mallard Pop says, are you 220 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 2: kidding me? Harbaugh will be coaching the game, whether he's 221 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 2: present or not. Wireless electronics you can I don't even 222 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,599 Speaker 2: know if that's possible. I mean, I mean, can you 223 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 2: get it in that fast down to the field, to 224 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 2: the coach, wired in to the team. Seems mighty cumbersome 225 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 2: to be able to pull all that. If anybody could 226 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 2: do it, it's Harbor. But I don't know if I'd 227 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 2: want to go and pull off something like that. 228 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 3: You know, I have an image right now if I'm 229 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 3: sitting in the in the in the hotel room with 230 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 3: a side of wings on the side of the bed 231 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 3: and a nice little sprite beside it, with this with 232 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 3: his headset on and he's coaching. He's like, he's like 233 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 3: doing a rehearsal right now. So he's on the he's 234 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 3: on his hotel bed watching the game, headset on calling 235 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 3: the plays that should be called in that moment, and 236 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 3: that's the visual. I'm gonna have the whole show and 237 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 3: just kind of have fun with that, you know, in 238 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 3: a way. 239 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 2: I'm only kidding around partly. But if he had a 240 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 2: really good agent, he'd start calling around saying, we're gonna 241 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 2: have a camera on. Jimmy's gonna order Buffalo wild wings. 242 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 2: Are you interested into a free commercial or something like that? 243 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 2: You know, this is the world we will we live 244 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 2: in now, you know what I mean, Carrie. It's all about, 245 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 2: you know, honey, in publicity, so you can get something 246 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 2: like that. By the way, Michigan had the ball first, 247 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 2: they had the punt. I think they picked up one 248 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 2: first down. I'm not exactly sure that I believe they did. 249 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 2: They moved the ball a little bit. They did have 250 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 2: the punt. Penn State could have the ball deep in 251 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 2: the known territory, They'll take off. They've got to move 252 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 2: the ball. Though their their offense has been a kneemake 253 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 2: at times, and and that's that's being kind to them. 254 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 2: You can't be going three and out against this Michigan 255 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 2: team and hope to stand in there. They've got to 256 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 2: put some points on the board somehow, you. 257 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 3: Know they do. And they looked really well last week. 258 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 3: The quarterback for Penn State such a talented guy. He has, Yeah, 259 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 3: he hasn't. He hasn't really bust out the way that 260 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 3: a lot of people think he should or will. But 261 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 3: last week he played really really well. And uh, if 262 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 3: you can carry over from that week and put the 263 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 3: ball in the places that he was putting the last week, 264 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 3: and then then we're going to have a really good game. 265 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 2: By the way, if you ever played it, Happy Valley, 266 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 2: have you ever been out there? 267 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 3: I have never played there. There's one place that I 268 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 3: wish I did get a chance to play out, But 269 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 3: I know those white out games are just beautiful. Man. 270 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 2: It is I out there for a game against Michigan 271 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:04,719 Speaker 2: as a matter of fact, many years ago, and that 272 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 2: plays rock. So you you think you're gonna leave early 273 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 2: to be traffic. It ain't happened out there. By Fred, 274 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 2: You're you're stuck in that and it's just a great atmosphere. 275 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 2: They come from miles around. I mean, you have to 276 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,559 Speaker 2: get hotel rooms thirty forty fifty miles outside of Happy 277 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 2: Valley just just to drive on in. But it's a 278 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 2: it's an electric atmosphere certainly underrated doesn't get the credit 279 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 2: that it really should out there carry Happy Happy Valley? Man. 280 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 3: Is that that it's it's a beautiful place, man. And 281 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 3: like I said, that whiteout game is just it's like 282 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 3: no other. And I've been in some really some some 283 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 3: really electric environments in college. I mean I remember playing 284 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 3: in Florida State, obviously when in Florida State. In Florida 285 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 3: State was Florida State, and you see you see the 286 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 3: chief run out there, whether Florida State again right now, 287 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 3: but when you see the chief run out there on 288 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 3: the horse and throws that throws that's that spear into 289 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 3: the ground and it's just the crowds on the string 290 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 3: and it it was crazy times. 291 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 2: Is that Is that probably the most electric atmosphere you've 292 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 2: been in or or what? 293 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 3: Yeah? Probably? I mean because I was such a you know, 294 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 3: I was a kid. I was a fresh a freshman 295 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 3: at the time at Louisville, and you know, to go 296 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 3: into those environments we didn't have many of those at 297 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 3: Louisville at the time, and so you step into step 298 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 3: into that arena and you just you get reminded of 299 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 3: why you went to college and you wanted to be 300 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 3: a part of the collegiate collegiate athletics for sure. 301 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 2: Now you were like a two way player before you 302 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 2: were a quarterback and the safety, right, Mike good that 303 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 2: you didn't want to give up quarterback? 304 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 3: You though, did you, Arnie? I almost I almost left. 305 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 3: I remember, really I did. Yeah, I remember my freshman year. 306 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 3: I mean we had every quarterback in front of me 307 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 3: went to the NFL. So it wasn't like, wow, oh yeah. 308 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 3: It wasn't like I was was bad at what I did, 309 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 3: But to get on the field, I had to had 310 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 3: to play some other position, and safety was the one 311 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 3: that kind of, you know, I had a chance to 312 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 3: get a chance to play early at and obviously it 313 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 3: did well and I played well at the position, but yeah, man, 314 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 3: quarterback was was my thing. And when they first told 315 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 3: me I was gonna have to play safety full time, 316 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 3: I had to have some thought. I was like, I 317 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 3: think I may probably leave. And my dad was the 318 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 3: one that kind of, you know, kind of reconfigured my 319 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:08,959 Speaker 3: thinking on it, and I was able to stay there 320 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 3: and do well at it. 321 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 2: Did you ever throw a pass in the NFL? Did 322 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 2: ever get any You know? 323 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 3: I had plays. I had plays that were set up 324 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 3: for that, but it never materialized. We never were in 325 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 3: the right situation. But yeah, I definitely had plays. I 326 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 3: had plays a receiver as well that I had in 327 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 3: the NFL that just did not get called. I was 328 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 3: in goal line package where I were lining up at 329 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 3: the tight end and then split out to the receiver 330 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 3: and they would throw the fade to me, but we 331 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 3: never quite got it called. 332 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 2: All right, by the way, Cary, what did I just 333 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 2: tell you? I said, Penn State can't go three plays 334 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 2: and out, Just you know, keep punting that ball to Michigan. 335 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 2: The first three plays they gained one yard. They'll have 336 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 2: to punt it back to Michigan. And I could see 337 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 2: this is already going to be a defensive Batt'll tell 338 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 2: you what. We'll come back, We'll keep you updated on 339 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 2: what's going on in the game. We'll take a look 340 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 2: at some of the other top twenty five. My Arizona 341 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 2: Wildcats doing well. Colorado, they beat doocissday. I had to 342 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 2: get that into basketball. 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Very lucky, Carrie. 368 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 2: They fumble, but they were able to get the ball back. 369 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 2: They don't pick up a first down. They go ahead 370 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 2: and punt. It looks like they were it looks like 371 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 2: they were gonna go ahead and call running into the punter, 372 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 2: but they said no, he was blocked into him. So 373 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 2: Penn State now will have the ball again. Second time, 374 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 2: they're getting the ball and it's only about eight forty 375 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 2: one left in the first and still no score in 376 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 2: this game right now. 377 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, Michigan plays well in this situation anyway. I mean, 378 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 3: they're a really good defensive team, so they're not worried. Offensively, 379 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 3: they have they've had some slow gains or some slow moments, 380 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 3: but usually they pick it up as the game progresses, 381 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 3: and and that's you know, that's they're fine. Right now. 382 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 2: Did you say slow moments? I want to make sure 383 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 2: I heard you're right, you said, Saul a moment. So 384 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 2: if I called you last night, let's say ooh. Like 385 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 2: at the end of the third quarter of the Virginia 386 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 2: Louisville game, when Virginia was what he twenty one fourteen? 387 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 2: Would you have picked up my call? Would you have 388 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 2: been in the crabby mood at that point? Or what 389 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 2: happened to they? Thank goodness, they came alive in the fourth? 390 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 2: What happened to your Louisville team? Whole season was riding 391 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 2: on the line, and that I don't know if that 392 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 2: wouldn't even help you all that much, to be. 393 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 3: Honest, you know what's funny about that game. I could 394 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 3: kind of sense it, right. So it was it was 395 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 3: fourteen nothing in a second, and he was just kind 396 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 3: of like, you know, just kind of mosing around, going 397 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 3: going through the motions. And I literally sent out a 398 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 3: tweet in the second quarter when they were fourteen nothing, 399 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 3: and I said, Louisville needs to wake up. I said there, 400 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 3: I said, if they don't, they will lose his game. 401 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 3: I kind of felt that energy, that vibe really and 402 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 3: fourteen enough at fourteen nothing, yeah, I could sense it, right. 403 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 3: And so, you know, because Virginia was moving the ball 404 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 3: pretty well. That quarterback, the freshman was playing really well, 405 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 3: and I was like, they're moving the ball, they're they're 406 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 3: shooting the sales in the foot. Louisville's not really stopping 407 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 3: them at the moment. So I sensed it. And then 408 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 3: when they went on that little that little run started 409 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 3: getting some lucky breaks go their way. Virginia, I was 410 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 3: a little nervous, but I also said, you know, the 411 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 3: championship teams and teams that win, they have these type 412 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 3: of games and you'll see like the Alabama or the 413 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 3: Michigan's or the Ohio States have these games where you 414 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 3: know the team that they're playing shouldn't be in it, 415 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 3: like Ohio State and Rutgers, like a couple of weeks ago, 416 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 3: right right, Yeah, it was. It was I think it 417 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 3: was like seventeen fourteen or something, and it was halftime 418 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 3: right right, and that opening drive Rutgers came out and 419 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 3: was driving the ball to take the lead in through 420 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 3: an interception in the red zone, right and so you know, 421 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 3: all you need is those one play to change it 422 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 3: and get the momentum back. And when Louisville answered right away, 423 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 3: there was a sense of relief there. But yeah, it 424 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 3: was one of those games, man, you have to win, 425 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,199 Speaker 3: and you're going to have them during the season, and 426 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 3: Louisville pulled it out, and that's all you can ask for. 427 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,719 Speaker 2: You know, Carrie. Of course the game now picked back up. 428 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 2: Penn State has the ball. Well, it's gonna be second 429 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 2: to tent from their own thirty and it's so early 430 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 2: in the game. It's only their second possession, but obviously 431 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 2: you want to at least pick up a first down, 432 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 2: try to keep your defense off the field. You played quarterback, yea. 433 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 2: Do you do you start saying, hey, can we mix 434 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 2: it up a little bit, maybe throwing a trick play? 435 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 2: Do you just say, hey, it's only our our second possession, 436 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 2: stay with what we got. We're gonna be fine. We're 437 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 2: gonna be able to move the ball. And as I 438 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 2: say that, they pick up a big yardage all the 439 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 2: way out to uh to midfield. So is that which 440 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 2: do you just stay with the game plan? 441 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 3: Yeah? It's it's you have to be flexible as a 442 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 3: head coach and as a as an offensive coordinator defensive coordinator, 443 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 3: and you have to like really play the game right. 444 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,880 Speaker 3: You can't start trying to manufacture things in the game 445 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 3: when it doesn't need to. I think a lot of guys, 446 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 3: especially in this day and age, the head coaches are 447 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 3: extremely aggressive, to say the least. I mean, they're doing 448 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 3: the analytic route right where if it says you should 449 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 3: do it here because computer says so, then you do it. 450 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 3: But I miss the times of the head coaches having 451 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 3: the real feel for the game and calling it as 452 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 3: the game needs to be called, because the game kind 453 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,239 Speaker 3: of dictates that when you're really really involved in it. 454 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 3: And I think that's probably how I would approach it. 455 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 2: Are you one of those guys that love when the 456 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 2: coaches go forward on fourth and two, fourth and three, 457 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 2: even from their own half of the field, because look, 458 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 2: sometimes I thought we've gone completely overboard. Back in the day, 459 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 2: coaches would never go forward even if it was fourth 460 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 2: and inches, especially on their own side of the field. Now, hey, 461 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 2: fourth and one, fourth and two, fourth and three, especially 462 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 2: with the tush push, you know, you go forward quite 463 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 2: a bit of time. Now. Coaches take a different way now, Carrie. 464 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 3: They do. And it's it's it's it's like they're playing 465 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 3: Madden out there. It really yes, Like it's me playing 466 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 3: my little brother in Madden. And he's he does a 467 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 3: good job on three downs and it's fourth and one, 468 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 3: and he's like, you should probably punt the ball here, 469 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 3: and I'm like, yeah, but it's mad going for you know, 470 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 3: so that's kind of what it's kind of it's it's 471 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 3: changed to. Now I'm a proponent of the old school 472 00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 3: way for the most part. I think you should be 473 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 3: a good of the coaches like Siriane from Philly. Obviously 474 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 3: with that illegal play they do the Tusch push right, 475 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 3: the fact like that, huh, I don't like it. But 476 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 3: the fact that they have that play that they can 477 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 3: get the first down on and I mean he literally 478 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 3: does it on his own thirty yard line. It's just 479 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 3: unstoppable for them, and so they can do it, but 480 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 3: everybody can't do it. And I think that's the thing, right, 481 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 3: I think everybody's starting to take that approach, and it's 482 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 3: not always the smart play to do. 483 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 2: All right, Penn State moving the ball. They're in Michigan territory. 484 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 2: I believe there was a flag on Michigan if I'm 485 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 2: seeing it correctly. It's hard to kind of you know, 486 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 2: doing the show and paying attention. Yes, I think it's 487 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,719 Speaker 2: going to be passing appearance. Yeah, that's what it is. 488 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 2: So will be first intent for Penn State and important 489 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 2: for them to just get on the board first. Now, 490 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 2: a couple of other games in the top twenty five. 491 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 2: Ole Miss is going to be taken on Georgia. Georgia 492 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 2: playing at home. We certainly know what they could do. 493 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 2: They're a ten and a half point favorite in this one. 494 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 2: All Miss having enough to keep up with them in 495 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 2: this Georgia And what's the recipe for an upset here? 496 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 2: Obviously you got to keep it close, you got to 497 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 2: go ahead and stack that box. But it's tough to 498 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 2: stop that George offense. You know that, Yeah it is. 499 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 2: I mean, George is just in the league of their own. 500 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 2: But yes, Old Miss is one of those teams. They're 501 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 2: the Penn State of the SEC. They played really well. 502 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 3: They beat the teams that they should beat, and they're 503 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 3: gonna have eight to nine wins every year. But they 504 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 3: can't beat the bema's in the Georgia's right, So they 505 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 3: have a chance here. Old Miss is better defensively than 506 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 3: they have been in the past. They can score with Dart, 507 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 3: they can move the ball, and they can you know, 508 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 3: they're not just a pass happy team either a lot 509 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 3: of times or I think a lot of people you know, 510 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 3: a tribute a Laine Kiffin team as a team that 511 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 3: scores a lot of points and they pass the ball 512 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 3: and they do that. But they've been better this year 513 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 3: at the line of scrimmage on both sides, better defense 514 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 3: than they've had in the past, and so I'm actually 515 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 3: excited to see this game. I think Old Miss Yeah 516 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 3: can keep it tight and they have a chance. But again, 517 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 3: it's it's the whole thing with me. I think there 518 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 3: I call them the Penn State of the SEC. They 519 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 3: just can't get I like that. I like that you 520 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 3: can tell it's good. 521 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 2: Well, the over on there's like fifty eight fifty nine, 522 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 2: so you know it's going to be a high scoring game. 523 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 3: Do you do? 524 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 2: You come in with the mindset field goals off the table. 525 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 2: If it's fourth and one, fourth and two, we're not 526 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 2: kicking a forty five fifty yard field goal, which I 527 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 2: never understood why coach is gonna do that anyway, especially 528 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 2: in college. Yeah, when I'm gonna go forward on fourth 529 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 2: and one, field goals off the table in this game 530 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 2: or what, they're. 531 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 3: Not off the table if they're if they're easy kicks. 532 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 3: But because like again, like I was saying earlier on you, 533 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 3: a lot of times, you come to the game, Yes 534 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 3: we're gonna be aggressive today, right, and that's your mindset. 535 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 3: But if the game dictates that you don't have to 536 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 3: be that way. You have to be flexible. Right, So, 537 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 3: if the game's close and you feel that these three 538 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 3: can can help you or dictate this game or give 539 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 3: you momentum, you have to kick the threes. But you 540 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 3: want to come into this game aggressive obviously for old 541 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 3: at if you're an old miss rebel. But you have 542 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 3: to be flexible. You can't not just say I'm not 543 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 3: gonna take the points when the points are available all 544 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 3: the time. 545 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 2: Right, he's Garry Rhodes. I'm already spanier in for the 546 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 2: guys from up on game. We'll tell you what's going 547 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 2: on in the Michigan penn State game. First, matter of fact, 548 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 2: we'll come back and look at some of the other 549 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 2: top twenty five, but dropping on in to see what's trending. 550 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 2: Let's check in with Iogo. What's going on? Igo? 551 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 6: All right, fellas, third down and one four Penn State 552 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 6: at the Michigan four yard line, and in true State 553 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 6: of Pennsylvania fashion, they just attempted the Philadelphia. 554 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 2: Eagles push push. 555 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 6: The officials are unpiling right now and they have not 556 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 6: signaled yet. There is no score. We are midway through 557 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 6: the first quarter. Jim Harbaugh, of course, not on the 558 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:46,439 Speaker 6: sideline today. No ruling today on Michigan's request for a 559 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 6: temporary restraining order to block the Big Tens three game 560 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 6: suspension of Harbaugh. Hearing on the request has been scheduled 561 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 6: for it next Friday. That means an offensive coordinator, Sharon Moore, 562 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 6: is serving as acting head coach today. As we speak again, 563 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 6: they are scoreless midway through the first quarter and Penn 564 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 6: State knocking on the door just outside of the Michigan 565 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 6: three yard line. Now, before this game kicked off, Michigan 566 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 6: Athletic Director Ward Manual issued a withering statement calling the 567 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 6: Big Ten suspension of Harball quote completely unethical and insulting. 568 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 6: Not liking someone or another university is not grounds to 569 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 6: remove someone before the NCAA process has reached a conclusion. 570 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 6: You may have removed him from our sidelines today, but 571 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 6: Jim Harbaugh is our head football coach. I will continue 572 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 6: to support Jim throughout this process in that court precisely 573 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,360 Speaker 6: in that voice. By the way Penn State has been 574 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 6: they measured it. It is a first down Penn State 575 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 6: as a first and goal at the Michigan three yard 576 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 6: line Number eight Alabama, fourteen to nothing lead at Kentucky, 577 00:25:58,560 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 6: five and a half left to play in the first 578 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 6: ordered Texas Tech a ten to nothing lead at number 579 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 6: sixteen Kansas with three point twenty four left to play 580 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 6: in the first quarter. Finally, in the NFL police and 581 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 6: Kenner Louisiana announced a short time ago the New Orleans 582 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 6: Saints receiver Michael Thomas was arrested last night on misdemeanor 583 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 6: charges of simple battery and criminal mischief. Thomas and a 584 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 6: construction worker working in Thomas's neighborhood got into a dispute 585 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 6: over the worker parking in front of Thomas's house. The 586 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 6: victim said Thomas threatened him, picked up a brick and 587 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 6: threw it at the windshield of his truck and then 588 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 6: shoved him. Oh fellas back to you. 589 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 3: Wow. Appreciate that. 590 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 2: Ilo, Carrie Rhodes, Arnie Spanier right here on Fox Sports Radio. 591 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 2: Win for the guys from up on game. We'll be 592 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 2: back next week. LeVar TJ. Huchmanzada, Plaxico, Burris Boy, TJ. 593 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 2: Huch Benzada has got a lot of letters in that 594 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 2: last name. I was writing that thing out. So they'll 595 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 2: be back next week. Right now, it's going to be 596 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 2: third in goal for Penn State. As I was, they 597 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 2: had picked up the first down, they had it on 598 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 2: the four yard line, and they have not been able 599 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 2: to go ahead and move the ball. They're gonna have 600 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,679 Speaker 2: to do something here otherwise they're gonna have to settle 601 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 2: for the field goal because they're not close enough the 602 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 2: toush push barely enough to get in the first down. 603 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 2: If you were playing quarterback, though, you would like that place, though, 604 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 2: would you not there carry or what? 605 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,719 Speaker 3: I don't I don't know, honey, because there's a lot 606 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,479 Speaker 3: of people in that pile. So I don't know if 607 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 3: the quarterback actually likes to play, but I mean it's effective. 608 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 3: I just you know, that's a lot of bodies, and 609 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 3: so I don't know if i'd like it. 610 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 2: What's going on in the in that in that huddle, 611 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 2: by the way, or in that scrum, a lot of pulling, 612 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,360 Speaker 2: a lot of pushing, a lot of screaming, a lot 613 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 2: of other stuff like. 614 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 5: That or what. 615 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, there's a lot of toush pushing. I think 616 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 3: I think that's the accurate name for the play and 617 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 3: the stuff that's going on under the pile, for sure. 618 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 3: It's it's not for the fainted heart, all right. 619 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 2: Uh, you could have called maybe a pass interference on 620 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,959 Speaker 2: that play, but they're not gonna call anything. It's going 621 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 2: to be fourth and goal for Penn State. I assume 622 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 2: they're gonna have to go and kick the field goal 623 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 2: to see if they can get out for the three 624 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 2: nothing leader. They at least going to attempt a little 625 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 2: chip shot. It's gonna be a twenty yard or to 626 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 2: see if they get out first to twenty one left 627 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 2: in the first, it's going to be good. Penn strayed 628 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 2: out to the three nothing lead. Psychologically, people always say, carry, 629 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 2: we want to get out to the lead. We've gotta 630 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 2: get out to the early. We got to take the points. 631 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 2: You know, if we went forward and fourth and we 632 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 2: didn't get it, it'd be you know, disastrous. Psychologically, Are 633 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 2: you thinking, oh my goodness, we're down three nothing, We're 634 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 2: we're in big, big trouble. Does it really do anything 635 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 2: to you or what? 636 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 3: You know what I mean, absolutely not, no, no, no. 637 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 3: But you want to get the points. You want to 638 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 3: come out and strike first. All ways. You don't want 639 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:37,679 Speaker 3: you don't want to have to be the team that's 640 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 3: always trying to punch up to get back in the game. 641 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 3: So you know, you take the points. I guess, and 642 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 3: especially in the game like this where it's probably gonna 643 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 3: be low scoring, you definitely take the points. But again, 644 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 3: in that situation, right, if it was if that was 645 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 3: Georgia and Ole Miss, Now you may be a little 646 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 3: bit more aggressive in that spot because you know that 647 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 3: George is gonna score points, right, and so in that 648 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 3: situation you may try to go forward and make them 649 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 3: go the length of the field. Now that that kind 650 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 3: of makes sense. But in the game is gonna be 651 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 3: low scoring, and you're gonna take the points. 652 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 2: Carry other games we're probably looking forward to. You said 653 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 2: when Florida State used to be good. I think you 654 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 2: meant this year my plan. They're gonna be playing Miami. Now, 655 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 2: one thing I never really understood. If you're fourteen to 656 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 2: fifteen points better than the other side, you're fifteen points better. 657 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 2: But because this is a big rivalry, you throw that 658 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 2: out the window. I mean, Miami's not on the same 659 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 2: level as Florida State, you know that. Ye can they 660 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 2: keep this close just because it's a rivalry or what? 661 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Miam's gonna keep this game closed. I don't 662 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 3: think it's gonna be a blowout. I don't think it 663 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 3: could end up being a two touchdown game or ten 664 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 3: point game easily because a score later, whatever the case 665 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 3: may be. But it's gonna be interesting. Miami is not 666 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 3: a bad team. They've had some some unlucky bounces and 667 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 3: some bad coaches and some bad couching along the way 668 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 3: and overtime game here, you know. So it's they're a 669 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 3: good team, don't get I think they're what six and 670 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 3: three at the moment, but yeah, they're a good team. 671 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 3: They're a team that's gonna come fight. They're gonna try 672 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 3: to ruin Florida State's chances here. I hope they don't. 673 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 3: I hope Florida State's undefeated by the end of this year. 674 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 3: So when my my Cardinals playing, we got a chance 675 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 3: to beat them and make a real statement. 676 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 2: But it's gonna be states difference between a good team 677 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 2: and the next level team and up for echelon team, 678 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 2: a top four team, and that's what Florida State is, right. 679 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 2: They're they're a top four team there, Yeah they are. 680 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 3: They are offense off off the charts, good, playing really 681 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 3: well defensively, play well as well, but they have lapses 682 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 3: where they're not as good as advertised. And so you 683 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 3: just want to see in Miami, you know, come into 684 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 3: the year and even in this during the season, they've 685 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 3: had some really good, really big outburst on offense. So 686 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 3: it's gonna be interesting. I think it'll be a higher 687 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 3: scoring game and and and I think Florida State will 688 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 3: make a few more plays than Miami will. 689 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 2: Look, you're not as old as I am, but I 690 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 2: remember when this game used to take headlines from everybody. 691 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 2: There was no rivalry. Everybody would talk about this. Yeah 692 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 2: and my me in Florida State and Bowden and the 693 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 2: missfield goals and I mean this, this was the rivalry. Man, 694 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 2: This was what it was all about. What thirty forty 695 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 2: years ago and stuff. Maybe not that long, but thirty 696 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 2: forty years ago. 697 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, n you're going too far, but it was. It 698 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 3: was definitely third definitely thirty years ago. Yeah, and those 699 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 3: not in those early nineties, Man, those early ninety games 700 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 3: with Florida State and in Miami, it was just epic. 701 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 3: I remember being a kid in Alabama and and you know, 702 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 3: not really being invested in either of the Florida teams, 703 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 3: but would definitely watch that game. It'll be the Florida 704 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 3: State Miami games, It'll be the Nebraska Penn State games, 705 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 3: and like all those those even Army Navy, like those games, 706 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 3: those those old school rivalries were so it was so 707 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 3: so dark gone good man to watch and see and 708 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 3: take and take part in as a fan. So yeah, 709 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 3: those games with those Miami teams that were stacked and 710 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 3: had forty guys that were going to the NFL's was crazy. 711 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 2: As as Jim Harbaugh right now, three nothing, Michigan is 712 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 2: gonna go ahead, have the ball, I believe on their 713 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 2: own twenty five yard line, two seventeen left in the 714 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 2: first Has Jim Harbaugh been in contact maybe not directly, 715 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 2: but somehow through a friend, through a friend, by a 716 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 2: piece of paper say circle one, yes or no if 717 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 2: you go to the problem with me. Has he been 718 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 2: in contact with Cheron Moore, the current interim coach of 719 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 2: Michigan right now as he as he somehow tried to 720 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 2: get a message to him. 721 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 3: I think he's gonna wait. After the first quarter, you 722 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 3: go get get a long break, let things settle down, 723 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 3: and he'll have a chance, probably have a chance to communicate. 724 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 3: Then it's kind of hard to kind of interject, especially 725 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 3: live during this game when when things when the live 726 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 3: bullets are flowing and and and taking place. So I 727 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 3: probably say definitely after the first quarter, but one hundred 728 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 3: percent at halftime, right, so he'll have a chance to 729 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 3: get some get some moments and get a few statements 730 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 3: across to his team, you know. 731 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 2: Carry And then this is kind of new to me. 732 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 2: He's not allowed like at halftime. They he can't get 733 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 2: on speakerphone and give him a raw ross speech, right, 734 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 2: he can't do anything like that. He can't be in 735 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 2: contact with the team, correct or what. 736 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 3: I think I think he can, That's what I'm saying, 737 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 3: don't I don't know the exact verbage of what was 738 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 3: what the penalty is, and I don't think a lot 739 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 3: of people do know, right, So if he just can't 740 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 3: be like Zoom or something, he could be And that's 741 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 3: that's the fascinating thing with me here, Like, I don't 742 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 3: think anybody really knows what can or can't be done. 743 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 3: So if if it's just he can't coach on the sideline, oh, 744 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 3: at halftime, he'll be on the screen somewhere talking to 745 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 3: his players, for sure. 746 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 2: I love it. I love it. Of course he's carry Rhodes. 747 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 2: I'm already span you're in for the guys on up 748 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 2: on game. We'll come back keep you updated on all 749 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 2: the games going on, especially Michigan Penn State. Right here 750 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. 751 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 752 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports radio 753 00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: dot com. 754 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 2: All right, welcome back toup on game from the tyrack 755 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 2: dot com studios, Kerrie Rhoades, Arnie Spaniard here on Fox 756 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 2: Sports Radio here coms Michigan. They picked up a big 757 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 2: third down. They didn't pass it, though, Carrie. They did 758 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 2: like a monster sweep right picked up the first down. 759 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 2: Great play calling. They decided they weren't going to put 760 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 2: the game in the hands of McCarthy. And now they're 761 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 2: running the ball like crazy, picking up some good yards. 762 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 2: It's going to be third and about eight or nine 763 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 2: on the Michigan twenty sixth or something like that yard line, 764 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 2: right the Penn State twenty six yard line right. 765 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 3: Now, Arnie, I heard you, but I was so impressed 766 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 3: by the music that was going on right now and 767 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 3: here singing look moldtown fee leave back get Yeah. I 768 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 3: was I was in that vite. No, but Misigan moving 769 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,399 Speaker 3: the ball now and they're they're running it. They're doing 770 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 3: what they do. They lean on people. They're bigger, stronger 771 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,399 Speaker 3: than most, and up to do a little screen pass 772 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 3: here and I think, uh, he gets down to the 773 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 3: what five yard line? 774 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 2: Now? So they're opening the Wow, you guys are way 775 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 2: ahead of me. 776 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 3: Man. 777 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 2: Oh, usually I'm the one usually spoiling it for everybody else. 778 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 2: Now I'm just seeing that little screenplay. I'm like, oh, 779 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 2: this is a big third down coming up. And boy, 780 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 2: that was a big one. You're right, it's gets sounded 781 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:18,959 Speaker 2: like the five yard line. They're gonna have it first 782 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 2: and go. That was a big play there, Car. 783 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, they're picking it up and missing. Like I said, Man, 784 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 3: it's they're usually bigger, stronger, they lean on you. They're 785 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 3: the more, the more physical team in pretty much every 786 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 3: game they play in and they wear you down. And 787 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 3: now they're the Habitans here to punch it in and 788 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 3: take the lead. 789 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 2: Well, keep your eye on the game. I want to 790 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,879 Speaker 2: ask you real quick, because I was watching the USC 791 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 2: game last week. Cab Williams had a little bit of 792 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 2: a meltdown after the game against Washington went into the stands. 793 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 2: He was with his mom. He was crying. You know, 794 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 2: somebody like Michael wilbon was saying that makes him undraftable. 795 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 2: Some people were getting on him, saying he was weak. 796 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 2: Others said it was no big deal. I thought it 797 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 2: was no big deal. I didn't understand where all the 798 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 2: negativity came from. He left it all out in the field, 799 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 2: that it was an emotional game and he just had 800 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 2: a little bit of a meltout. Is that a big deal? 801 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 2: Did you ever feel like that, like just wanted to cry. 802 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 2: You go back to the locker room and just one loss, 803 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 2: whether it was a close game, not a coach game, whatever, 804 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,280 Speaker 2: and you just had a meltown or what carry. 805 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, Mike Wilbond's getting a little unbearable to be honest. 806 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 3: I mean, we know he's a senior, and you know, 807 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,959 Speaker 3: a senior advisor who's been around a long time, seeing 808 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 3: a lot of sports and really good at what he does. 809 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 3: But yeah, he's becoming a little bit, you know, a 810 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 3: little bit unbearable with his takes and the things he's saying. 811 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 3: I mean, the kid, he's a kid, he's a college kid. 812 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 3: I mean, I was still crying after a big loss 813 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 3: around that time. And even in the NFL. I remember 814 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 3: as a as a rookie. I mean I didn't understand 815 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 3: that everybody didn't take the game as serious as I did, 816 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 3: or some people do in certain times. Right, I mean, 817 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 3: you become a grown man through that league. But I mean, 818 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,360 Speaker 3: he's a kid, and you know, I'm sure he hears 819 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 3: all the things, he sees all the things that are 820 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 3: being said about him, and emotion, and emotion is why 821 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 3: we played a game. We played a game, and you 822 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 3: want people that show up and obviously it matters to them. 823 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 3: And so I had no no quarrels about what he 824 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,839 Speaker 3: did and and how he expressed himself and how he 825 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 3: shared that moment with his family, because. 826 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 2: It doesn't make it, doesn't make it. No, No, he's 827 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 2: a human being. 828 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 3: I mean, we have emotions, and yes, we want our 829 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 3: leaders to be stoic a lot of times and lead 830 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 3: that way. But a guy, a kid, a kid that's 831 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,399 Speaker 3: showing his emotion doesn't It doesn't bother me at all. 832 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,240 Speaker 2: Now, we were talking on My Sunday Show with Chris 833 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 2: Plank that we thought her. Chris actually brought up a 834 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 2: good point, saying maybe he thought that that was going 835 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 2: to be his last game, and you know I had 836 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 2: to melt down like that and that he was going 837 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,359 Speaker 2: to go and take the rest of the season off. 838 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 2: But that that's not the case. And though I wouldn't 839 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 2: blame him for doing that, I mean, you've got a 840 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 2: lot to protect. I wouldn't blame him if he wanted 841 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 2: to take to the rest of the season off because 842 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 2: he's going to be the I assume the number one 843 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:56,360 Speaker 2: picking in the draft. 844 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know about the whole the rest of 845 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 3: the season. It can't that nowth that that would show 846 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 3: I think some scouts or or some teams that are 847 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,840 Speaker 3: or general managers that are looking at possibly drafting you 848 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 3: and giving you the keys to their franchise at. 849 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 2: One world we live in now care no, I no. 850 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 3: I agree. I mean it's definitely a real take, one 851 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 3: hundred percent agree with it. But I mean we talk 852 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 3: about being a leader and being emotional. I don't think 853 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 3: that's a negative. I think if you can show that 854 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,879 Speaker 3: and show your team that it matters and you care 855 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 3: about it, that that is a bigger, a bigger story 856 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 3: to me for that young man. But I mean to 857 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 3: to not play the last three four games when you're 858 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:40,919 Speaker 3: healthy and you have a chance to steal it. Play 859 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 3: in the big bowl game. I don't know about that one, 860 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 3: all right, what's. 861 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:45,879 Speaker 2: Going on in the big game. No, Blake korm gets 862 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 2: a two yard touchout run the extra point is good. 863 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 2: Michigan bouncers back gets that big first out on the 864 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 2: third and ten conversion, they get the touchdown. Michigan now 865 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 2: out in front of Penn State seven to three. Obviously 866 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 2: in the second about eleven eleven fifty six left in 867 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 2: the second, right there, good answer by Michigan. Last thing 868 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 2: they wanted to do was punt this back and have 869 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 2: to rely on their defense to stop Penn State again. 870 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 2: But they move the ball on the ground offensively. That's 871 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 2: exactly what they needed their carry. 872 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:20,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, big answer. Hardball may have got that that FaceTime 873 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 3: in a little earlier and say get back to our 874 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 3: to our identity. And they drove the ball down the 875 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 3: field and got the seven, not the three. And we 876 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:33,320 Speaker 3: talked about it earlier. Those those points, those points add up. 877 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 2: They add up definitely for sure. And this is exactly 878 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,279 Speaker 2: what they thought. Oh, this is playing in the Penn 879 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 2: State's hands. A little bit low scoring game on Penn 880 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 2: State wants to keep it that way. They want that 881 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,359 Speaker 2: clock running. They'll go ahead and try to get their 882 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 2: ground game going. Also, a lord not off to a 883 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 2: good start one of five nineteen yards. What do you 884 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 2: do to get the kid going? Throw some screens, so 885 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 2: flatouts because the Michigan defense has got them pinned back. 886 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 2: They're not afraid of him throwing the ball deep. So 887 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 2: do you throw the ball deep? 888 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 3: What do you do? 889 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 2: Carry you tell me real quick. 890 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, you try to get him out the pocket a 891 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 3: little bit, get him on the move, get some easy throws, 892 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 3: throwing first down, you know, some little check down, some 893 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 3: little intermediate routes to get into second and third and 894 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:19,240 Speaker 3: short to keep the chains moving. But yeah, you gotta 895 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 3: do some stuff that's gonna surprise Michigan. You're not gonna 896 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 3: just run, just run it down their throats. 897 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 2: Our one in the books will come on back. Keep 898 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,400 Speaker 2: you updated. We'll get into the NFL a little bit. 899 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 2: Also week ten, coming up all that here on Fox 900 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:32,800 Speaker 2: Sports Radio.