Speaker 1: It's twelve am in the dark and murky waters of
Speaker 1: the White Sea, and you're listening Tonight Call. Welcome to Nightcall,
Speaker 1: a podcast keep you company on those strange dates and
Speaker 1: lonely nights. My name is Emily Ushida. I am in
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Speaker 1: the line in California, it is okay, fine, I'll go first.
Speaker 1: It's Tests Lynch and with me is Molly Lambert. Hey, everybody, Hi,
Speaker 1: Welcome to the holiday season. We're officially on the holiday
Speaker 1: season with the real Higa season? Is that how I
Speaker 1: always thought it was higgy? And then that commercial where
Speaker 1: it like walks you through the pronunciation really kind of
Speaker 1: shook me. But I don't he is it higa or
Speaker 1: like uga? It's a hookah whoga is what I would
Speaker 1: trust because it makes the least amount. And it's a
Speaker 1: Scandinavian lingo. I mean it's just like cozy, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it has like a meaning though that's deeper than cozy.
Speaker 1: It's a Danish and Norwegian word for a mood of
Speaker 1: coziness and comfortable conviviality, with feelings of wellness and contentment.
Speaker 1: That's great. I'm going to completely batch it, but there's
Speaker 1: like the Japanese concept where it's like you're you're both
Speaker 1: successful in your career and happy with your personal life
Speaker 1: and like everything's working at It's like basically Nirvana, but
Speaker 1: it's like earthly Nirvana, a German version of what do
Speaker 1: you What are your guys favorite cozy things to do
Speaker 1: during the holiday season? Where it's about eighty five degrees
Speaker 1: here in Los angele it oh, it sure is. I
Speaker 1: went to the Hollywood Christmas Parade yesterday. It was the
Speaker 1: eighty ninth year of this celebration. I don't even know. Okay,
Speaker 1: I had never been to it before I knew about it.
Speaker 1: It's like a local parade and they show it on TV.
Speaker 1: I was trying to explain it to my friend. I
Speaker 1: just got into the dude oh parade, and then I
Speaker 1: realized I like to go to parades apparently, And I
Speaker 1: was like, the dude Oh Parade is to the Rose Parade,
Speaker 1: as the Hollywood Christmas Parade is to the Macy's Thanksgiving
Speaker 1: Day Parade. It is like an extremely bootleg Christmas parade.
Speaker 1: It is so bootleg you would not believe. Tell us why, well,
Speaker 1: I don't exactly know why, but it's kind of amazing.
Speaker 1: It's like, first of all, it happens now before it's
Speaker 1: even December. And I explained to someone that that's so
Speaker 1: they can film it and show it later. Oh my god, guys,
Speaker 1: don't you know that the holiday shopping season starts the
Speaker 1: day like Thanksgiving Day? It's it's Chris it And it's
Speaker 1: just like they filmed this. They filmed this parade. It
Speaker 1: was hosted by Eric Estrada, and they got a real
Speaker 1: late start. Um. And it's basically like if Marty Grass
Speaker 1: were like a quarter full, if Marty Grass sucked, No,
Speaker 1: because it doesn't suck. I mean it's like you can't
Speaker 1: like have a beer while you're watching. You can't. You can't,
Speaker 1: definitely you cannot. But you can like buy an led
Speaker 1: wand and sit on the It's like not crowded. If
Speaker 1: what you want out of a parade is to be
Speaker 1: in a not crowded place, it's a good parade for that.
Speaker 1: What were the floats? Like, the floats are what make
Speaker 1: it kind of junkie. Um. There was like one giant
Speaker 1: inflatable that I saw that was a cat in the
Speaker 1: hat balloon and it was actually amazing to see a
Speaker 1: giant inflatable balloon in real life and made the whole
Speaker 1: thing worth it. But it was also the slowest parade
Speaker 1: and I kind of like walked down the line before
Speaker 1: it started to see what it was. And the main
Speaker 1: thing that I did see. First of all, it started
Speaker 1: with like a million cops doing a sort of like
Speaker 1: terrifying demonstration of power where they like ride motorcycles around
Speaker 1: in crazy curly cues informations. Um. But then it was
Speaker 1: weird to know they have a lot of time to
Speaker 1: practice therapy, right. It's like, first of all the police
Speaker 1: cars drive through, and then all the fire trucks drive through,
Speaker 1: and then after that came a fleet of cars from
Speaker 1: TV and film because I saw the Two Deloreans and
Speaker 1: just like many but it was all like I think
Speaker 1: in advertisement for a company that will rent you famous
Speaker 1: cars or doppelgangers, the two Deloreans that are frequently seen
Speaker 1: around the Hollywood and Los Filas areas. Yeah, I'd also
Speaker 1: seen the Blues Brothers car before for sure, and I
Speaker 1: just in my mind was like, there's just guys who
Speaker 1: have a Blues Brothers car, because that was a thing
Speaker 1: in Providence. But this is more of a like for
Speaker 1: profit Blues Brothers Venture. Um, so, yeah, it's a really
Speaker 1: silly parade and I saw about an hour of it
Speaker 1: and that was about it. But if you like free
Speaker 1: public experiences and spectacle, I think the big star was
Speaker 1: Ernie Hudson from Ghostbusters was like the mayor of the parade.
Speaker 1: Actually it was. I mean, it's not bad. It's like
Speaker 1: true to its roots. I think it was like the
Speaker 1: first place Sonny and Share ever performed. Like the fact
Speaker 1: that it's almost ninety years old to me makes it
Speaker 1: you know, it's hilarious old, but it's not like a
Speaker 1: very big thing. Um, I mean, are there any new parades?
Speaker 1: Like what's the most recent major parade that was starting?
Speaker 1: Is it's really hard to think about parades in our
Speaker 1: modern era, Like it's easy to imagine being like, yeah, parade,
Speaker 1: that's what we'll do. Parade started in the seventies and
Speaker 1: the Dude Parade is the most seventies parade because it
Speaker 1: was started to start a grosse parade paroity parade. And
Speaker 1: that parade is also free, and I guess most parades
Speaker 1: are free. It's free to like it's like ten bucks
Speaker 1: a person to participate in. Anyone can and it's all
Speaker 1: super weird stuff. Um. But my friend was like the
Speaker 1: theme of this parade is everybody smoke Swede, And I
Speaker 1: was like, yes, that's definitely what connects all the floats
Speaker 1: in this parade. I feel like those are two incongruous
Speaker 1: themes though, like a parade, it's like like a kind
Speaker 1: of like fake military exercise, like I don't know what,
Speaker 1: and getting sucked up is against it. Yeah, it feels
Speaker 1: like like getting in order or doing formations or like
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Speaker 1: did also go to Marty Gras because it turns out
Speaker 1: I'm such a parade head, and that's I think I
Speaker 1: was like missing the Disneyland Christmas Parade is why I
Speaker 1: wanted to see the Hollywood Christmas Parade, which is less
Speaker 1: impressive but also free. Um Marty Gras is like truly
Speaker 1: an amazing parade and like a crazy, giant spectacle of
Speaker 1: being overwhelmed by just like human beings capacity to make
Speaker 1: weird things and be excited. And the floats aren't corporate.
Speaker 1: My boyfriends from New Orleans, he's pointing that out yesterday.
Speaker 1: He was like, those floats aren't corporate. They're like sat
Speaker 1: satirical and sometimes very weird, because like I went right
Speaker 1: around the election and it was like very strange. They
Speaker 1: were like politics themed floats and they were just creepy
Speaker 1: because they're just like giant you know the ways that
Speaker 1: like giant effigies of politicians are creepy, and they do
Speaker 1: that more in England. They love to do well, we've
Speaker 1: imported that. We've totally you know the Genesis video with
Speaker 1: the scary puppets that are all the oh, they love that.
Speaker 1: It was like that. It was like some there was
Speaker 1: like a Bernie float and a Hillary float and a
Speaker 1: Trump float and they were all like mocking them, you know.
Speaker 1: And then there's just some weird things about Marty grab
Speaker 1: because it's so old that some of it is just
Speaker 1: very feels very like you're in like an eyes wide
Speaker 1: shut parade, you know, where you're like, this is gonna
Speaker 1: end with like some kind of a really cool like
Speaker 1: pagan thing that we all do because it feels very
Speaker 1: like older than time or like, um, it's great, I
Speaker 1: recommend it, but it's it's like many days of parades.
Speaker 1: And what's cool about is everybody gets like the week
Speaker 1: off from school. We should read we should revisit this
Speaker 1: when it's actually Marty season. But the sounds called Marty
Speaker 1: Gras corporate sponsors send us to Marty Gras. Yeah, put
Speaker 1: us on a float. We should just have like a
Speaker 1: giant phone, like a nightscape. What's your dream, slow, what
Speaker 1: would you like to ride on tested a giant phone? Well, no,
Speaker 1: I was thinking like a landline, and I do kind
Speaker 1: of like that idea, but I really like the idea
Speaker 1: of being inside a clam that opened and shut. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just I just think it's I was going to
Speaker 1: say a moon pie. Oh, that's a good one. I
Speaker 1: would like something I could close myself up in if
Speaker 1: I got shy. When I went to Marty Gras, I
Speaker 1: saw Solinge was the the Grand Marshall. I think it's
Speaker 1: called a parade, and she was in a giant shoe.
Speaker 1: That's a parade whose theme is a giant high heel shoe.
Speaker 1: That's like the women's parade. It's the best parade, is
Speaker 1: that like her? The crew, Yeah, the crew is muses
Speaker 1: and it's like the all female crew and their thing
Speaker 1: is like a high heeled shoe. So she rode in
Speaker 1: a giant high heeled shoe. And she actually lost her
Speaker 1: wedding or engagement ring because she was doing throws all
Speaker 1: night and at some point, like accidentally, her ring came
Speaker 1: off while she was like throwing beads and stuff. Emily,
Speaker 1: what's your dream float? I was in a float when
Speaker 1: I was a kid. This is like a very early
Speaker 1: childhood money. But there's there's a kind of funky parade
Speaker 1: in Seattle called the Seafair Parade. It's kind of like
Speaker 1: well known around there isn't but my mom was a
Speaker 1: part of a Habitat for Humanity float and they made
Speaker 1: like a like a house, like a big kind of
Speaker 1: crazy house float and I was in it, Like I
Speaker 1: rode in the float and kind of was like in
Speaker 1: one of the top like little windows, the window. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: it kind of was this the real thing of like
Speaker 1: a trailer house, um being you know, taken down the road. Um,
Speaker 1: like the kind of weird dreamy thing of being in
Speaker 1: a house. But it's a movie sort of wizard um.
Speaker 1: But I had a very cool memory of why so,
Speaker 1: I guess any kind of house thing they I think
Speaker 1: the Thanksgiving Day Pride they have like an old Mother
Speaker 1: Hubbard float that's like the shoe house, that one miniature golf. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: speaking of British puppets, speaking of British people and their puppets. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the Holidays. This this topic came as a suggestion
Speaker 1: to us um on Twitter because I was sort of
Speaker 1: on this kick that we had been from uh from
Speaker 1: doing the Big Chill episode and then talking about Phantom
Speaker 1: of the Opera. And there are a lot of things
Speaker 1: that could qualify as eighties themed themes, but they're like
Speaker 1: sensations where I genuinely I can't really understand why they
Speaker 1: were so popular. Guys, Big Chill is great. I don't
Speaker 1: know it's great. I'm not saying it's not great, but
Speaker 1: I'm s a sensation. No, yeah, yeah. I mean it's
Speaker 1: hard to imagine any movie that's like about real people,
Speaker 1: right just being have superpowers, yeah, or are animated being
Speaker 1: like a huge, huge hit. So we had a we
Speaker 1: had a suggestion from a Twitter They did suggest to
Speaker 1: it talking about charity songs, which I was just like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, that's one of these other things where when
Speaker 1: I think about any of those songs like We're the
Speaker 1: World or in this case, do they know it's Christmas? Charting,
Speaker 1: especially in those days when charting was based off of
Speaker 1: buying a single and radio play, I guess I can't
Speaker 1: imagine those songs Pizza, Like, who would buy the single
Speaker 1: of do they know it's Christmas? I mean, I'm glad
Speaker 1: they did because I think there's what I think. Let's
Speaker 1: talk sports again like we did last week. We love
Speaker 1: we love to talk sports. Spot Hearts Take It's like
Speaker 1: a super team. It's like just because you put all
Speaker 1: of the greatest players in history on a team, like
Speaker 1: they might be a terrible team. Uh. There's something about
Speaker 1: the idea of like putting all these stars on a
Speaker 1: track together. Well, It's also interesting because if it's for charity,
Speaker 1: if you say no, and then that becomes public knowledge,
Speaker 1: it's obviously like yeah, and and maybe rightfully because you're like, well,
Speaker 1: it was recorded in a day, so it literally took
Speaker 1: like a couple of hours of time. Then it did
Speaker 1: generate a bunch of money, but it also created one
Speaker 1: of the worst right. It depends who's running the charity
Speaker 1: and where the money actually goes. I knew it was
Speaker 1: a Bob Geldoff joint. Yeah, it was above or uri Urie,
Speaker 1: Let's go Urie. And it is a terrible song. It's
Speaker 1: so bad. You guys think it's better or worse than
Speaker 1: the version about Ebola. So I was just listening to
Speaker 1: fourteen a version. It's so funny because it's tough, yes,
Speaker 1: and it was Ellie Goldine And I don't even know
Speaker 1: about the mean It's like, I think there's something about
Speaker 1: that song in particular. What makes it so offensive is
Speaker 1: that it's like so colonial lists. Oh, it's so colonialist.
Speaker 1: It's like the craziest and it's the thing of like
Speaker 1: you're like, you're you should know better than this by now.
Speaker 1: The the kind of the rampant, the rampant cluelessness feels
Speaker 1: feels shocking now. Um. Also, I mean it, it is
Speaker 1: one of those things that feels like it would be
Speaker 1: a song in a South Park episode without a single
Speaker 1: lyrics exactly. You know, we all spent time in the eighties,
Speaker 1: which is what differential we did our time in the eighties,
Speaker 1: what differentiates us from from the young millennials. Um, because
Speaker 1: the eighties are the weirdest decade by far to me. Like,
Speaker 1: when you look at things from the eighties, they're so
Speaker 1: weird because they purport to be wholesome. It's like trying
Speaker 1: to reset things to the fifties and well, bizarro fIF
Speaker 1: it's bizarrot, but things are like, things are so dystopian
Speaker 1: and weird, and that was very apparent. What's strange is
Speaker 1: that I remember this song. Obviously it's still plays, but
Speaker 1: I remember it as if I were there when it
Speaker 1: came out. But I was one year old when did
Speaker 1: it come Okay, I just remember like the SMaL parody. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, like I feel like I was more aware
Speaker 1: of the parodies than the thing itself. Well, there's this
Speaker 1: weird thing where I feel like if someone plays the
Speaker 1: like bells, you know, of the like like ding ding ding,
Speaker 1: you know, like any kind of like Christmas e bell
Speaker 1: or a whistle or a handclap, like I will listen
Speaker 1: to the song, you know, I'll give it a heavily
Speaker 1: synthesized yes. And I actually think that musically this song
Speaker 1: isn't that bad, right, just the lyrics are. It's the
Speaker 1: lyrics that are terrible. And then okay, So the thing
Speaker 1: going back to the super super team thing. I think
Speaker 1: the super team thing works in sports because you're tuning
Speaker 1: into an event and you're like watching to see how
Speaker 1: something plays out in real time. Yeah. So now I
Speaker 1: feel like instead of these songs, we don't really get
Speaker 1: charity songs anymore, but like we have the big like
Speaker 1: like fifty people fifty big stars singing at the Grammys
Speaker 1: or whatever, which is like you don't really want to
Speaker 1: ever like go back and watch that again or listen
Speaker 1: to the counting. Yeah, the Lucky lou aspect of it
Speaker 1: and that kind of stuff. I kind of I think
Speaker 1: it's usually kind of boringly done on the Grammys. I
Speaker 1: mean there's some exceptions, and sometimes the combinations are so
Speaker 1: WHA could do that you kind of just have to
Speaker 1: watch with your jaw open. But one of my earliest
Speaker 1: writing jobs was was recappying The Voice for the A
Speaker 1: V Club, Like when The Voice was new and I
Speaker 1: had been doing American Idol stuff before then, and I
Speaker 1: was like, well, this show is fun because they have
Speaker 1: the battle rounds where people are just sing fighting, and
Speaker 1: that's always kind of entertaining, like when people are just
Speaker 1: in real time trying to one up each the love
Speaker 1: the battle rounds. Yeah, and that's when people like about
Speaker 1: charity singles. I think you're right, is there's an element
Speaker 1: of like all these stars trying to be leading, who
Speaker 1: will be the memorable person? Yeah, but I think it's not.
Speaker 1: It's not it's no, it's no VH one Diva. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true. Just because you mentioned the Voice, I have
Speaker 1: to say like in the early days of The Voice,
Speaker 1: I was like, I'll give this show a shot, and
Speaker 1: I really liked the Battle rounds, but that that show
Speaker 1: is such a pale, like awful substitute for American Idol.
Speaker 1: Guys have strong Idol strong. This is like when we
Speaker 1: talked about astrology the other week and I just dropped
Speaker 1: out for ten minutes. You you are not into I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't think this has ever happened before
Speaker 1: that I've stopped talking for that long on the podcast.
Speaker 1: I mean it feels of a piece with them. I
Speaker 1: mean American also has that creepy thing of like trying
Speaker 1: to recapture something from the phase like American. They all
Speaker 1: exist in the same like Paul Verhoven universe. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that informed us all as people. Bob Geldoff, by the way,
Speaker 1: in said that he was responsible for two of the
Speaker 1: worst songs in history, and one was do they Know
Speaker 1: It's Christmas? And the other as we Are the World?
Speaker 1: Like admitted it. What about one day taking no responsibility
Speaker 1: the world is incredible. I was more aware of we
Speaker 1: Are the World when I was a kid than then.
Speaker 1: Which came first? That's a question. I was just gonna say,
Speaker 1: do they know It's Christmas? I think came first. Here's
Speaker 1: what I was saying to you guys also in an email,
Speaker 1: is that I feel like I knew for some reason
Speaker 1: that the race to get a number one for Christmas.
Speaker 1: It's a huge thing in England, much more so than
Speaker 1: in America, I think, and it's always like it's sort
Speaker 1: of like a eurovisiony thing where it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: the favorite and like somebody will do and it's always
Speaker 1: people doing like sentimental covers of songs. I feel like
Speaker 1: Adele has just like one with if she song out
Speaker 1: it wins for her and Sam Smith have just been owning.
Speaker 1: I feel like Ed Sheeron like really wanted it one
Speaker 1: year and got it. But then there was a year
Speaker 1: when everybody just got totally one up by a song
Speaker 1: from a tea commercial that has really cuddley polar Bear.
Speaker 1: It was awesome. It was like everybody was like no, no,
Speaker 1: the by like the no name band from like the
Speaker 1: cuddly polar Bear t commercial that all of England has
Speaker 1: fallen in love with. It captured their heart like the
Speaker 1: crazy Frog. The funny thing about the most recent do
Speaker 1: they know it's Christmas? Did you see? I guess it
Speaker 1: would be like on a four year yeah, um, is
Speaker 1: that it feels even more British than the first one
Speaker 1: for some reason. Uh, A lot of the people who
Speaker 1: pop up on it, you kind of do this weird
Speaker 1: thing of like who's that person because you know them
Speaker 1: from like exactly one song, like whatever the one song
Speaker 1: was that came to the States, so like the guy
Speaker 1: from POMPEII, the Bastilda, so I can't even yeah, and
Speaker 1: he has a really distinctive voice, but I've never heard
Speaker 1: another song by them ever again. And so he pops
Speaker 1: up on this song and I'm like, who's that? You
Speaker 1: call him? Who's who? Of Who's It's yes exactly because
Speaker 1: that's great. You like like we do talking about minor
Speaker 1: British pop stars that other people might not care about,
Speaker 1: but you obsessively follow the details, like j j Dating
Speaker 1: Channing Tatum is talking about how she looks just like
Speaker 1: Jenna Dowan. Yea, um, yeah, yeah it is um and
Speaker 1: she like went on a Chinese The Voice and one
Speaker 1: she was she was on either X Factor and yeah
Speaker 1: it was amazing. If you have been riveted by this
Speaker 1: discussion of Jesse Jay's cast, you will love Who Weekly,
Speaker 1: a podcast from Lindsay Webber and Bobby Finger that we
Speaker 1: all love, love it so much. I can actually say
Speaker 1: that it's better for celebrities where you just keep seeing
Speaker 1: their name. So I put celebrities in air quotes but
Speaker 1: you can't see it. But they're all of these people
Speaker 1: where you just keep seeing them mentioned and you know
Speaker 1: that you'll never find out who they are. And then
Speaker 1: just having someone else acknowledged that there are who, You're like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: the people are that he talks about that Otherwise you'd
Speaker 1: be like, who is Matthew? Like me, are deeply invested
Speaker 1: in the careers of stars like Bella Thorne. The Hudgens.
Speaker 1: The Christmas switch is Vanessa Hudgens and who. Well, this
Speaker 1: would be a great Who Weekly debate because she's not
Speaker 1: a who, but she's sort of. She just did a
Speaker 1: Netflix Christmas movie, which will bring us back to her
Speaker 1: main topic again, um about a princess. It's like she
Speaker 1: and a princess, which places or something within the Christmas
Speaker 1: movie they acknowledge the Netflix Christmas Movies universe. There's a
Speaker 1: moment in this Vanessa Hudgens Netflix Christmas movie where they
Speaker 1: watch another Netflix Christmas movie and she's like, I love
Speaker 1: these movies. Does that mean are you arguing that that
Speaker 1: makes her more of a who? Or is that just a.
Speaker 1: It's definitely there's something like if you decided that you can,
Speaker 1: you can corner the Netflix Christmas movie market. I mean
Speaker 1: a lot of people. It is a route for an
Speaker 1: actress that I respect. A lot of people do Christmas movie.
Speaker 1: The Calix Movies says she'd been in now because she
Speaker 1: was in that one rave movie XO x so she's
Speaker 1: amazing and spring Breakers the thing that's why I do
Speaker 1: more serious now. It wasn't she wasn't in that movie.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry for spiring smirching her name. I think that
Speaker 1: was Sarah Highland who was Oh can I share my
Speaker 1: one favorite tidbit from the Wikipedia entry for do they
Speaker 1: Know It's Christmas? Though? Before we move on, I think
Speaker 1: it was Simon Labond who like showed up like having
Speaker 1: not like just come from a party, like not having
Speaker 1: slept the night before, and like how many people recording
Speaker 1: that song knew it was Christmas? Yeah yeah, or like
Speaker 1: we're aware of much may not be snow in Africa,
Speaker 1: but there was snow yeah yeah, well yeah, he dumped
Speaker 1: out a bag of cocaine on the table and everybody
Speaker 1: partook um. And then fast forward to I think the
Speaker 1: one that was recorded in the nineties and it was
Speaker 1: like Damon Alburn was there, but he wasn't even a
Speaker 1: part of the track. He was just there to serve everybody.
Speaker 1: T is what you're saying. I love him. That might
Speaker 1: be the official night Call crush, I mean, is it?
Speaker 1: I think I think we might all just see that one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he has the boyish we like British novelty songs. I
Speaker 1: mean British like anything that they're probably sick of in England.
Speaker 1: Like I'm like, bring it to me, I will take it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but there is some stuff that's like not quite good
Speaker 1: enough to actually crossover that I'll listen to. But I
Speaker 1: feel like lucky that we are spared it like the
Speaker 1: work of Sheryl Tweety. What is the best Christmas song
Speaker 1: of that? There's no other answer. Do you like Christmas music? Um?
Speaker 1: I know it's probably not cool, but yeah I do.
Speaker 1: There are certain that you like it. I just do
Speaker 1: like it. I've been listening to the country station out
Speaker 1: here Go Country one oh five one because they started
Speaker 1: playing the Christmas music like about three weeks ago, if
Speaker 1: memory serves, But there are a few that make me
Speaker 1: like deeply depressed. I'll just turn those off, like see
Speaker 1: you like a happy Christmas? I like the Zippy Ones,
Speaker 1: what about you, Emily? Um, I mean I'm a big
Speaker 1: fan of the Phil Specter Christmas just kind of like
Speaker 1: it doesn't it doesn't never get old. But my real favorite,
Speaker 1: and this is just like a sentimental favorite, is um
Speaker 1: a Steven Eadie recording of Let It Snow? Do you
Speaker 1: like the Christmas music? Do I like the Christmas music
Speaker 1: in general? Not really, I'm not a big Christmas music fan.
Speaker 1: There's like this one tape that we just have had
Speaker 1: since I was a kid that has it's kind of
Speaker 1: a very sixties seventies Christmas tape Pencil Steven Eadie, And
Speaker 1: there's like Julie Andrew singing a ballad, a Christmas ballad
Speaker 1: I can't remember. And then yeah, it's just a very
Speaker 1: kind of like like the Mormon Tabernacle Choir is on it,
Speaker 1: and and that one I just have a soft spot
Speaker 1: for because every single one of those tracks I just
Speaker 1: have imprinted on my brain. But I'm not a big
Speaker 1: like I'm not one of those people. I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people are like like Thanksgivings over, time to
Speaker 1: break out the Christmas music, time to play Mariah Carey
Speaker 1: like five times a day, and well, I mean it's
Speaker 1: a it's a it's a good one. I feel like
Speaker 1: everybody in the modern day, if there's a contemporary pop
Speaker 1: star who is trying to do a Christmas track, everybody
Speaker 1: is kind of secretly just trying to to best Maria. No,
Speaker 1: I don't ever do that much because I'm like generally
Speaker 1: a little lukewarm on the diva's But for Christmas, make
Speaker 1: an accept Christmas diva Christmas. I love Maria. I She's
Speaker 1: my favorite. Ever. I will worry about this forever. I
Speaker 1: so glad the Lamb's got the Glitter soundtrack to the
Speaker 1: original Stars Born got it to number one. Good job,
Speaker 1: Lamily as a Lambert identified with the Lambs. Um. I
Speaker 1: like Christmas cheese. I was gonna say, I like the
Speaker 1: melancholy Christmas music. I like the Charlie Brown Christmas. I
Speaker 1: also just rewatched Charlie Brown Christmas. I mean Charlie Brown
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving with my kids. Uh. And it was like the
Speaker 1: hardest thing in the world. Convinced that they seem to
Speaker 1: think it was from like the sixteen hundreds. It was that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they were like these that makes me stoons and I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, why are they flat? They don't look
Speaker 1: like like why why is their hair that way? And
Speaker 1: I was like, you guys watched like you know, Captain
Speaker 1: Underpants like that way. Yeah, it's experimental. It's hard. It
Speaker 1: must be hard to want to pass on those traditions
Speaker 1: and the your kids are like, oh god, it's so hard.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just remember my dad doing the same thing.
Speaker 1: It's like, no, it's not cool, right. I love the
Speaker 1: Peanuts like all people Millennials. Well, it wasn't contemporary for
Speaker 1: us either, but I feel like everybody in our generation
Speaker 1: loves loves the Charlie Brown Christmas and all the Charlie
Speaker 1: Brown movies in general. Right, And I think on some
Speaker 1: level we have like a deep need to forge tradition,
Speaker 1: and that is one of them that we're all agree
Speaker 1: that there are certain things that are good. That's one
Speaker 1: of them. Sesame streets one things that you would like
Speaker 1: want your children to be into because they're like, they
Speaker 1: teach fine lessons and they're they're hegan, they're very heagon
Speaker 1: about the flat two D animation thing. Um. I was
Speaker 1: a screening of Mary Poppin's Return, Oh shit, And and
Speaker 1: there's a part where they do kind of like try
Speaker 1: to redo the super califragilistic against like with where they
Speaker 1: go into an animated world and even even being me
Speaker 1: like a person who grew up with with two D
Speaker 1: animation and do not find it alarming. I was like,
Speaker 1: children are going to be I don't know what to
Speaker 1: make of this, especially because the style of the animation
Speaker 1: they totally go back to like the sixties Disney style
Speaker 1: with like these kind of kind of spinley like animal
Speaker 1: characters and stuff, and like they have the penguins there
Speaker 1: and it's very cute, it's fun, but it's like kids
Speaker 1: are not going to be able to wrap their heads
Speaker 1: around the dimensionality of this. I just want to say
Speaker 1: that we had who Framed Roger Rabbit, which is a
Speaker 1: terrifying children's movie that we also all love that goes
Speaker 1: in the damon albarn Uh and I call ven diagram.
Speaker 1: We should have like a like a virtual Hall of Famer,
Speaker 1: a list of things we all. It's just a website,
Speaker 1: but it's a museum for things we like that our
Speaker 1: old Wait. I want to know about Mary Poppins. Can
Speaker 1: you tell us since you saw it already, was it good? Um?
Speaker 1: Will it bring the musical back again. All the songs
Speaker 1: are cute when you're listening to them, and they all
Speaker 1: started to run together for me, um, I had thought
Speaker 1: that Limnuel Miranda like wrote on them or something, but
Speaker 1: I don't think he did. I'm not. I actually have
Speaker 1: to fact check on that, but I mean, she's great
Speaker 1: in it, Like it kind of feels I'm like a
Speaker 1: little bittersweet about the fact that, like, finally it feels
Speaker 1: like there's been justice for Emily Blunt. Well. I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, I feel like she's kind of a genius
Speaker 1: because I was like, Mary Poppins is more famous than
Speaker 1: Black Widow, Like she she made a right choice by
Speaker 1: holding out on all the superheroes until she got fucking
Speaker 1: Mary Poppins. Yeah, that franchise will go forever. And she's
Speaker 1: so perfect in it, Like she's just picture perfect in
Speaker 1: it and like perfect. Yeah, she was practically perfect and
Speaker 1: every way. And I my my weird hot take. While
Speaker 1: I was watching it, I was kind of crossing my
Speaker 1: mind and I was like, I don't really think this,
Speaker 1: do I, But I think I do. It's like, is
Speaker 1: Mary Poppins hot? Like she's buttoned up, so you know,
Speaker 1: I meant as Julie Andrews, because you know, Julian is hot,
Speaker 1: but Andrews was like de sexualized in all of her movies,
Speaker 1: which is why then there's a movie where she shows
Speaker 1: her shows her boobs later on? Why do you whisper that?
Speaker 1: Because it's like anybody It's like, isn't there a movie
Speaker 1: also where you, like Mary Tyler Moore's boobs where you're like,
Speaker 1: there's something that feels like you're seeing like your friends
Speaker 1: moms that you're not supposed to see, you know, um,
Speaker 1: Julie Andrews. I don't feel like it's supposed to be
Speaker 1: hot in Mary Poppins, but I don't think anyone's supposed
Speaker 1: to be I think that Mary, well, she's I was
Speaker 1: just trying to think about the appeal of Mary Poppins
Speaker 1: because it's really peculiar, right, She's like super hardass, but
Speaker 1: she also is like a total hedonist, like I remember
Speaker 1: in the original one where she she makes the children's
Speaker 1: medicine taste better mixed up in my mind with Mrs Pigglewiggle.
Speaker 1: Oh I love Mrs Pigglewiggle too. Yeah, is there any
Speaker 1: politics in this one? Because I feel like what makes
Speaker 1: the first one Petty Good. Is there some politics in it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So in this one, um with Jane, she's the girl. Um,
Speaker 1: she's played by m Emily Mortimer. In this one she
Speaker 1: is a labor organizer. Uh Okay. This is a thing
Speaker 1: about Disney movies that I've noticed, is there are like
Speaker 1: a bunch of Disney movies about labor organizing. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the Yeah it's really weird. Like the Christopher Robin
Speaker 1: movie is all about like benefits for workers, and yeah,
Speaker 1: that's about too. And I was like, this is very
Speaker 1: weird because this is not in line, right, y'all like
Speaker 1: to behave. I think Mary Poppins there is this kind
Speaker 1: of like she's just mysterious. She's well, she's mystical because
Speaker 1: someone you guys probably didn't ever watch Supernanny. It's interesting
Speaker 1: because it kind of like is a horror movie for
Speaker 1: parents in a way of like you could hire someone
Speaker 1: who like presumably has no children because they've got all
Speaker 1: this time, and then nation show up and they're better
Speaker 1: parent than you, and they like they almost have this
Speaker 1: like magical ability to transfix your children. Well, it's also
Speaker 1: like they're somebody don't form an attachment to your children
Speaker 1: that that would keep them there forever. Otherwise it would
Speaker 1: be just like a real horror movie. It's just interesting
Speaker 1: to think about when you're like Mary Poppins, like she
Speaker 1: came and she like bewitched the children and was like
Speaker 1: really good at like parenting them basically, and then was
Speaker 1: like peace. But isn't it also like this fantasy of
Speaker 1: like she has no inner life, She's just there to
Speaker 1: like serve. Yeah, and the children are like they grow
Speaker 1: up to think they imagined everything that they wait is
Speaker 1: there and does it imply that she might just be
Speaker 1: a figment of their imagine? So it is a horror movie. Well,
Speaker 1: it's funny they buried the nutcracker because I was like,
Speaker 1: they must really be betting at all on Mary Poppins nutcrackers.
Speaker 1: Real bad. I had to see both of those. Speaking
Speaker 1: of Emily Blunt, we got an email referencing the Double
Speaker 1: Wares product and about our last week's episode People Got
Speaker 1: Takes on You've Got People Got Takes this night. Email
Speaker 1: comes from Stephen. I grew up in Winston Salem, North Carolina,
Speaker 1: which was a series of mostly empty strip malls surrounding
Speaker 1: and economically depressed downtown in the nineties. I distinctly remember
Speaker 1: when we got our first Starbucks and Barnes and Noble,
Speaker 1: and how excited the adults in my life for as
Speaker 1: a result. I remember my mom telling me about all
Speaker 1: of the new variations of coffee she could try, and
Speaker 1: how we could now buy virtually any book we wanted.
Speaker 1: I had never been to New York or any other
Speaker 1: cultural center, so in my mind, this was exactly what
Speaker 1: Winston Salem was missing out on. Seeing successful, charming New
Speaker 1: Yorkers and You've Got Mail hang out in Starbucks and
Speaker 1: Fox and Sons affirm disbelief, and I felt like I
Speaker 1: finally had access to a richer world. Watching You've Got
Speaker 1: Mail in still stirs those feelings. I also rewatched the
Speaker 1: Double Wares product recently and was struck by how much
Speaker 1: of a prerecession movie it is. I can't believe all
Speaker 1: the rasing and Hathaway gets for taking a job that
Speaker 1: is not in line with her interests, even though it
Speaker 1: is explicit that it could help her career in the
Speaker 1: long run. It's peak, you went to college, so now
Speaker 1: the world will give you whatever you want. I watched
Speaker 1: it when it came out and was fully on her
Speaker 1: friend's side. On my watch, I was team anne Hathaway
Speaker 1: all the way. The job you gotta take. Well, I
Speaker 1: hate the Devil Works. I was just going to say
Speaker 1: I hated the Devil Works for Emily Bloody. Emily blood
Speaker 1: is amazing. That was her big entree. Yeah. I know
Speaker 1: everybody came away from that loving Meryl Street, but I
Speaker 1: remember being like, Emily blood is the best part of this.
Speaker 1: I don't like to hate on Anne Hathaway, so I
Speaker 1: won't do it. But there's something about the Devil Wares
Speaker 1: product where I was like, it just it takes all
Speaker 1: the boxes of my least favorite things and I put
Speaker 1: them in a blender and was like here you go,
Speaker 1: sit and sit and need it and wait. Okay, well
Speaker 1: it's been a second since I watched it, but I
Speaker 1: kind of like it. Can you explain to explain the
Speaker 1: hate for it, because I also don't remember. I feel
Speaker 1: like it's like the Tertiary characters are good and like
Speaker 1: interesting and well acted and written, and then Anne Hathaway
Speaker 1: is just kind of like a Merry Sue where it's
Speaker 1: like she's this person working for this like crazy boss.
Speaker 1: If I remember correctly, it's like you have to like
Speaker 1: humanize in a win tour by showing that like she
Speaker 1: is sad sometimes too um, but she she ended up
Speaker 1: being like a kind person. I don't remember that being
Speaker 1: the takeaway. It's like it acknowledges that she's sad, but
Speaker 1: does she end up like being redeemed at all? I
Speaker 1: remember there were like some I just remember there were
Speaker 1: a lot, like the love interest is very boring, and yeah,
Speaker 1: the love interest is like the least. Yeah, I can't
Speaker 1: really it's like so uninteresting to like watch a movie
Speaker 1: about the fashion industry just for some reason. It's it's
Speaker 1: how do you feel about zoo Lander that I will
Speaker 1: watch a parody for of anything. There was a whole
Speaker 1: series of like two thout I think exactly what this
Speaker 1: is what this night caller is talking about. It's like
Speaker 1: that these two thousands movies that were about being like
Speaker 1: a career girl who's like out in the big city
Speaker 1: to make a ton of money and like smash the
Speaker 1: glass ceiling a terrible company and do so by like
Speaker 1: buying a lot of name brand things can be accepted
Speaker 1: by you. But Stanley Tucci is so good. He's really
Speaker 1: good at so that one. I love Stanley. He's good
Speaker 1: at everything. I mean it's like, so that one's like
Speaker 1: the best one. But then there was like Confessions of
Speaker 1: a Acoholic, which some people like, and she doesn't even job.
Speaker 1: The Nanny Diaries. This was like peak people being like,
Speaker 1: like so peak. But there's something about some of these
Speaker 1: movies that make me feel like they like think women
Speaker 1: are really dumb, you know where it's like, here's what
Speaker 1: women like. Like. That was when the term chick lit became.
Speaker 1: Was like four books, like double Wares product. There are
Speaker 1: enough good things in that movie. I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know people like Get, but for me, it's never
Speaker 1: been I watched it once and I've never felt the
Speaker 1: need to revisit it. Life is short. If you love
Speaker 1: the devil Wares product or give us a show the
Speaker 1: Mary Poppins franchise or the alternate universe Mary Poppins that
Speaker 1: might be in the center of the Night Call ven Diagram,
Speaker 1: Badknops and Broomsticks, which also has an animated part. Hope
Speaker 1: that they do it. I hope they do a sequel
Speaker 1: to Mary Poppins Returns called Mary Poppins Forever. Okay, you guys,
Speaker 1: we have a night call And this is kind of
Speaker 1: a corrections Desk Nightcall. This comes from Hannah high night Call.
Speaker 1: I'm sure other people have pointed this out. They have,
Speaker 1: but according to the waffle House website, twenty five states
Speaker 1: have waffle House locations in them, including Colorado and Pennsylvania,
Speaker 1: neither of which I would consider Southern states, never having
Speaker 1: been to a waffle house. I've lived in Washington, New York,
Speaker 1: in Alaska. I guess I hop would be considered the
Speaker 1: waffle house equivalent in non waffle house states, or Denny's.
Speaker 1: Maybe Sherry's. By the way, I've never heard of shapes Sherry's, Okay, Sherry's.
Speaker 1: Literally my only interaction with waffle house comes from a
Speaker 1: John Green short story, so I have almost zero frame
Speaker 1: of reference. I have heard of the waffle House Index, though,
Speaker 1: which is a female rating system that categorizes storms based
Speaker 1: on whether or not the waffle house in the area
Speaker 1: is open. I'm off to find some waffles now because
Speaker 1: I'm hungry, happy, haunting. So that is like a very
Speaker 1: strange thing that the waffle House weather Index exists. I mean,
Speaker 1: but this this goes back to I will explain Sherry's
Speaker 1: for you for a second. I mean, it is basically
Speaker 1: just a diner like it's a Denny's style diner. It
Speaker 1: feels like more seventies, Like at least when I was
Speaker 1: a kid, it felt very even at the time in
Speaker 1: the nineties it felt seventies. But it's just a diner.
Speaker 1: But it's in Washington, And I remember Sherry's being the
Speaker 1: one place in town when there was this freak blizzard
Speaker 1: and all the power went out for like two weeks,
Speaker 1: and Sherry's was one of the few places in town
Speaker 1: that was like on a generator, like a public place
Speaker 1: on a generator that you could go to if you
Speaker 1: wanted to. So like that kind of holds water, like
Speaker 1: being the light in the storm, because like, if Sherry's
Speaker 1: is open again, this is twenty four hour establishments are
Speaker 1: the best. I mean we're missing, Like was do parts
Speaker 1: twenty four hours? I thought, No, it's only stood up
Speaker 1: until three to a certain point. We we are losing
Speaker 1: some diners, but new ones norms just moving to ventur Bolevard,
Speaker 1: loses Cafe Fifties on Vermons Up and we could talk
Speaker 1: about this part of all day. First of all, I
Speaker 1: just want to say, I hope it's not as good
Speaker 1: as waffle House. I hope it's not great. You don't
Speaker 1: refer Denny's or I hopan but I don't really like
Speaker 1: either of them. There's an Eyehop kind of near me
Speaker 1: that I go to more than the Denny's. But I
Speaker 1: just mind it strange because of all the things that
Speaker 1: are that you could like eat at a restaurant or
Speaker 1: make at home. It's like, so it's so easy to
Speaker 1: make pancakes. It's so easy to make pancakes. Even had
Speaker 1: a spray molly that looked like ready whip and you
Speaker 1: could just spray it into the pan and it was like, no,
Speaker 1: it was good. It was. It blew my mind. International House.
Speaker 1: It's just not as good as waffle House in terms
Speaker 1: of twenty four hour diners. I like the no frills
Speaker 1: aspect of waffle House. A lot Um Village in was
Speaker 1: the chain in Iowa that and Perkins. Perkins was twenty
Speaker 1: four hours and their specialty with muffins, so you could
Speaker 1: always go get a muffins, you always bring it back
Speaker 1: to muffin. This is an Iowa muffin. But it wasn't
Speaker 1: at all open twenty four hours. In fact, it had
Speaker 1: like really limited hours. If I recall, because everything in
Speaker 1: New England does. But I always loved Friendlies. Friendlies is
Speaker 1: like friends, such a good diner. I mean, I've only
Speaker 1: been to one Friendlies, and I think it was in Hawaii. Weirdly,
Speaker 1: there's Friendlies in Honolulu. I think I went to a
Speaker 1: diner a twenty four hour dinner in Vegas with Emily
Speaker 1: called the pepper Mill. The pepper Mill is like the
Speaker 1: in Vegas. There's something this is fantastic. Which club's close?
Speaker 1: Some things do close. I mean this was I don't
Speaker 1: even remember what I had, but I had a great time.
Speaker 1: That's what I had. Oh Ship Molly. What was the
Speaker 1: place in Seacock, Massachusetts that was? There's a really great
Speaker 1: diner in Sea Cock. I think it was in Sea
Speaker 1: conk right. It was nothing in nothing in Rhode Island,
Speaker 1: I think was. I can't remember, but there was this
Speaker 1: one in Sea conk Um that we would drive to
Speaker 1: our senior year. That was a really good diner. What
Speaker 1: are your favorite night colors? If you have a favorite
Speaker 1: twenty four hour diner, you'd like to alert us too,
Speaker 1: or non twenty four hour diner or a twenty four
Speaker 1: hour anything, give us a call at to four oh
Speaker 1: for six night. We did get several several emails pointing
Speaker 1: out that there are waffle houses in non Southern states,
Speaker 1: So I was thinking of that more as I said,
Speaker 1: I think when I said it originally it was more
Speaker 1: a heart feeling, more spiritual feeling, less of factual feeling.
Speaker 1: So I think we said we can, yeah, yeah, so can.
Speaker 1: I will acknowledge that I was wrong about that, however,
Speaker 1: because I've discussed this with several people off the pod,
Speaker 1: just like, is Missouri as southern state? And I think
Speaker 1: I've really come to the conclusion that if you had slavery,
Speaker 1: you have to be a southern state forever. But you it,
Speaker 1: you feel like you're really Midwestern if you had wasn't it.
Speaker 1: This is a Missouri compromise that we have talked about.
Speaker 1: This is the whole thing. I believe it is like
Speaker 1: sort of was up for debate where Missouri was going
Speaker 1: to go. But from what I've heard from Missourians, it's
Speaker 1: the Midwest wish they wish. I'll give it to them.
Speaker 1: There's been some discussion of like, are we too coastally elite,
Speaker 1: even though Emily is obviously you know, has has spent
Speaker 1: a lot of time in the middle the only one
Speaker 1: of us who've been to have been to Branson so exactly,
Speaker 1: so I think we should honor the folks from Missouri
Speaker 1: being whatever they want. And also, oh yeah there's I mean,
Speaker 1: if you can go to waffle House exactly, this is
Speaker 1: also a waffle house. This is the main takeaway at
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Speaker 1: waffle House all the time and it can be our
Speaker 1: our headquarters corporate flagship. Well, I think that does it
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