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Speaker 4: huge thank you to our very special guest, the Cowboys

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Speaker 4: Pro Bowl punter Brian Anger. Thank you for being here,

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Speaker 4: thank you.

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Speaker 5: For having me.

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Speaker 4: Let me hear it from him. I mean, first of all,

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Speaker 4: it's a tough week because it's some combination of Wednesday

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Speaker 4: do it after a game like yesterday, to be out

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Speaker 4: in public, it's not what any player really wants to do.

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Speaker 4: And here you are, and you have our gratitude.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, no, thank you, thank you again.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. So, from the standpoint of a veteran player, as

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Speaker 4: even acknowledging that yesterday ever happened. But from the standpoint

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Speaker 4: to back, especially when you don't see them coming.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you just have to hit the purge button. We

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Speaker 5: meetings and hit the purge button. After that, it's such

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Speaker 5: a quick week for us. It's kind of a good thing.

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Speaker 5: I guess, having to cram in a ton and just

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Speaker 6: Now you all in y'all's room. You don't have anybody

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Speaker 6: that's young, right, but there's a lot of young guys

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Speaker 6: When you have a lot of young guys, rookies, so

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Speaker 6: to say, on this team, how have you helped in

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Speaker 5: I think we're good. I think it's unique. We we've

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Speaker 5: Uh so just learn from them and just just follow

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Speaker 5: young guys come in. We have we have some great

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Speaker 4: When you play a competitive team sports long enough, you'll

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Speaker 4: win some, you'll lose some. Uh do you have to

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Speaker 4: learn how to compartmentalize at some point. Let me study

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Speaker 5: Yeah, You don't want to try to do too much,

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Speaker 5: That's the most important thing for us specifically, Like it's

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Speaker 6: What was the reaction with Brandon Aubrey nailing that sixty

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Speaker 6: How unique is it to have such a weapon like

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Speaker 5: On this team. I have rarely punted inside the fifty

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Speaker 5: We had a sixty seven yarder there, but the game

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Speaker 5: He's not going to say anything to coaching and anything

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it. It's like anything else in the game.

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Speaker 4: Let the game come to you and that that's going

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Speaker 4: after week three right now, that every am I right

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Speaker 4: in saying that every team has a leadership council where

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Speaker 5: They're the they're the regulators, I guess, report to coach

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Speaker 5: For us, Me, Trent, Brandon, we're just with each other primarily.

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Speaker 4: So how influential a leadership council can be, I'm sure

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Speaker 4: it depends in part upon the openness of the coaching staff.

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Speaker 4: And so you hope they're not paying lip service that

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Speaker 4: there's frustration and emotion from the standpoint of players who

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Speaker 4: How critical important a role do you consider it to

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Speaker 4: be for those veteran players And I include you even

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Speaker 4: though you're not on the leadership council right now, to

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you said it. It's a it's a long year.

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Speaker 5: It's it's a constant up and down. It's it's hard

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Speaker 5: those guys. They've been there before. They've been in ups

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Speaker 5: and downs. I mean, I've I've played on some terrible,

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Speaker 5: worse spots than this. We're not in a bat spy

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Speaker 5: we got a ton of football left and we'll be fine.

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Speaker 4: And and by the way, the game yesterday was kind

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Speaker 4: We had a chance to pull this thing out right

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Speaker 4: out there's a chance to win. Is that a fair assessment.

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Speaker 5: I think there's there's always a chance to win, and

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Speaker 5: you always have to be in there. You always have to.

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Speaker 5: I mean, we're the first onside kick I think to

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Speaker 5: game change from there. So it's it's incredible. Every know

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Speaker 4: How close are you physically to coach fossil during the

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Speaker 5: That we're around him. Yeah, we know what's going on,

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Speaker 5: and bones is a mastermind and we trust everything he does.

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Speaker 5: So I told him he's he's he's the guru. He

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Speaker 5: it's incredible the things that he's stuck. He'd and he

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Speaker 4: But do you when something like that's going on, because

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Speaker 4: your relationship with him is so good. You you three

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Speaker 4: especially have really have a great relationship with him. Does

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Speaker 5: Balls? Yeah, yeah, yes we do. He usually trumps he

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Speaker 5: is right, so I'll just I'll just say that, yeah,

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Speaker 5: it's a good relationship.

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Speaker 6: You've played with other coordinators or under other coordinators, how

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Speaker 6: do you compare how do you differentiate John Fossil from

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Speaker 5: He's the best. I mean, there's no better way to

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Speaker 5: put it, he his players play for him. He he's

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Speaker 5: a coach that actually truly loves his players, and he'll

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Speaker 5: tell you that. He'll tell you I love you like

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Speaker 5: you believe it, and he does, and it's it's awesome.

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Speaker 5: He's a tremendous human being and he just gets a

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Speaker 5: different level lot of players because of who he is

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Speaker 4: Delighted to have Cowboys All Pro punter Brian Anger. Did

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Speaker 4: they just give you a promotion? I'm not sure if

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Speaker 4: you were, but you deserved it. You're in my mind

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Speaker 4: you're All Pro, two time Pro Bowl punter. How about that?

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Speaker 4: Brian Anger is with us this evening on the Cowboys Hour.

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Speaker 4: We're at Sidecar Social in the Star District in Frisco

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Speaker 4: and we'll be right back on the Cowboys.

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Speaker 7: Cow Cowboys, no cowbows, no Cowboys.

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Speaker 5: Hi.

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Speaker 1: I'm from Sidecars Social at the Star in Frasco.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back to the Cowboys Hour. I'm Brand Sham with

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Speaker 4: Nicole Hutchinson, our very special guest Cowboys All Star kicker.

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Speaker 4: How's that All Star kicker? Brian Anger? And I didn't

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Speaker 4: give him a battlefield promotion? You've been second team All

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Speaker 4: And in twenty one you had your statistical best season

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Speaker 5: We beat it all last year and beat.

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Speaker 4: It all last year. Okay, let's start there. After Nicole

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Speaker 6: To be ooh, Alberson's. When it comes time to shop

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Speaker 4: Now this is really interesting to me, and we'll talk

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Speaker 5: We thought it could be a possibility. The few teams

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Speaker 4: So, and I read today, please confirm or deny that

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Speaker 5: Yeah, correct, Yeah, pretty crazy, that's what I actually took

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Speaker 4: But they drafted Blaine Gabbert round.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they drafted Blaine in the first round, and then

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Speaker 5: Russell fell to the third round, and there's what seventy

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Speaker 5: of course it's my fault as a punter, getting drafted

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Speaker 4: And so you were in Jacksonville, you were in Tampa,

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Speaker 4: just not my opinion. Every measurement bears it out. Why

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Speaker 5: I would tell you I've been consistent. I think I've

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Speaker 5: been consistent with it. I think I played for some

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Speaker 5: bad teams. Not every team has a special team's emphasis

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Speaker 5: So had a really good year that year and just

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Speaker 4: But by the way, and parenthetically, and I do want

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Speaker 4: there were no special teams coaches. Different aspects of special

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Speaker 4: I think he coached the punters. Yeah, and so now

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Speaker 4: now this evolution has happened. Have you seen when you

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd say so. It just it's just dependent on coach.

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Speaker 5: McCarthy has a major special teams emphasis. He's he's all

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Speaker 5: So it just depends, I think, on your head coach. Now,

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Speaker 5: in college we had special teams and tight ends coordinators,

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Speaker 6: I feel like there's also just been an emphasis on

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Speaker 6: because with the new kickoff rule and Bone spearheading that

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's cool. I mean, you see what Turp does.

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Speaker 5: Turpans incredible. So he can change a game. We opened

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Speaker 4: I want to make you talk about yourself, which I

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Speaker 4: I do not want to let escape how you have

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Speaker 4: I'm sure knowing you, you'd probably like to have better

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd say preseason's huge for us. That's where we

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Speaker 5: I guess five point four punt is second punt is

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Speaker 5: that's where I think that my career kind of took

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Speaker 4: Have you have you noticed it all just talking to

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Speaker 5: It's fun to hit home runs. Yeah, it's it's fun

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Speaker 4: You were like that yourself, Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 5: In college, I'd swing on in my shoes and would

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Speaker 5: Yeah, early on in high school I couldn't touch my toes.

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Speaker 5: But we'll do it. We do it like Thursdays are

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Then Friday massage and kind of work some of

435
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Speaker 5: that stuff out. Saturday you feel good, and then Sunday

436
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Speaker 5: you feel real good.

437
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Speaker 4: That reminds me. That reminded me of one of the

438
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Speaker 4: things I wanted to hear you talk about was today's

439
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Speaker 4: Wednesday and Thursday. Man, what do you do to convince

440
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Speaker 4: your body that you're you're right on schedule for Thursday night?

441
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Speaker 5: Just just knowing that you have to do it. I

442
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Speaker 5: guess you can put your mind. You can you can

443
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Speaker 5: tell yourself that you're going to be ready. Mind is

444
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 5: incredible with what you can tell it to do. For us,

445
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 5: we punt really light or punt kick really light. Once

446
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 5: we'll go tomorrow, so it'll be Tuesday, is similar to

447
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 5: our Friday, and then yeah, just just know you have

448
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Speaker 5: to go do it. Luckily you have another half day

449
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Speaker 5: we have till Thursday night, so we'll be on the

450
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Speaker 5: plane and the day before getting nice and tired again too.

451
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Speaker 5: So it's just it's just balancing at all and just

452
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Speaker 5: just it's just where you have to do. You have

453
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Speaker 5: no choice.

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Speaker 6: Dallas Cowboys cheerleader Ryan. I want to talk to you

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Speaker 6: about your organization. It's Project Restoration Foundation and it's helping

471
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Speaker 6: us veterans and public safety professionals cope with PTSD and anxiety.

472
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 6: Can you talk a little bit about that.

473
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Speaker 5: Yeah, Actually, we just changed our name. It's now the

474
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Speaker 5: Shoot Freedom Freedom By Foundation. So have a group of

475
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Speaker 5: buddies that are close die friends. We were scuba diving

476
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Speaker 5: one day. I've been wanting to start something that I'm passionate,

477
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 5: passionate about. My family has deep military roots, my friends

478
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 5: deep military roots. We were just on the boat chit chatting,

479
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 5: and we're like, you know what, We found it. So

480
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Speaker 5: there's some science behind helping deal with pt and social

481
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 5: anxieties and just cortisol levels getting down to the scientific

482
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 5: level with your body of reduction of cortisol levels with

483
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 5: scuba diving and with oxygen therapy. Hyperbaric chambers are huge

484
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 5: now and you increase the really you're inhaling a higher

485
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 5: level of oxygen, a higher percentage of oxygen at an

486
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 5: increased atmospheric pressure, which you can replicate in the water.

487
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 5: When you go thirty three feet down underwater, you're at

488
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Speaker 5: two atmospheres of pressure and you can breathe like forty

489
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Speaker 5: percent oxygen. So you can get actual healing benefits from

490
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 5: scuba diving instead of being stuck in a capsule you

491
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 5: might have claustrophobia. Whatever. You're in the ocean, you're in

492
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Speaker 5: a in a spring, you're in a pool, You're you're

493
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Speaker 5: in the open and looking at fish, looking at wildlife,

494
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Speaker 5: doing whatever, doing activities that are designed by us, by

495
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Speaker 5: some of the instructors, so it's it's cool.

496
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Speaker 6: And you also scooa dive as well. Yes, how often

497
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Speaker 6: do you go?

498
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Speaker 5: As often as I can? But used to go a ton?

499
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Speaker 5: Now have two little girls three year old and nine

500
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Speaker 5: month old, so don't have as much time anymore, but

501
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 5: still at least a two three times in the off season.

502
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Speaker 5: Used to be like two three times a week or

503
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Speaker 5: a month, so did a lot more. But we'll get

504
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Speaker 5: back to it. Yeah, I want to.

505
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Speaker 4: Come back to that because I love scuba diving. But

506
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Speaker 4: the foundation, how do you Okay, here's we're sitting on

507
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 4: the boat. We're talking about a plan. Oh guess what

508
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 4: we could do this and we could apply things that

509
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 4: we care about, two different things and put them together

510
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Speaker 4: and put them to good use. But then how do

511
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Speaker 4: you go about putting that into motion tangibly for something

512
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Speaker 4: that satisfies you as helping people?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's easy. It's it's something we're all

514
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 5: passionate about. And when you're doing something you like, it's

515
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 5: it's fun and it's easy. It's just kind of nature.

516
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 5: So love, love supporting military, love love doing as much

517
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 5: as we can for them. Those guys are very similar

518
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 5: to us. I'd say as football players and as athletes.

519
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 5: So our tester was with a couple friends of one

520
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 5: of my buddies. We brought him out for a weekend

521
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 5: in the in the spring and just getting those two

522
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,399
Speaker 5: back in a group setting, kind of like a locker

523
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 5: room setting where you can joke and mess around with

524
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Speaker 5: each other. Nigel was was a soft turtle that's in

525
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Speaker 5: one of the springs, and Nigel would just show up

526
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Speaker 5: behind you sometimes like be right in your face. And Nigel.

527
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 5: One of the guys was creeped out by Nigel, so

528
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 5: we of course we'd come up and we'd we'd like

529
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 5: we'd grab him in the shoulder, grab his butt or

530
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Speaker 5: something like that and just get him like Nigel's biting him.

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Speaker 5: So so just having fun with guys, and it got

532
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Speaker 5: him to loosen up, and it got him to just

533
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Speaker 5: change in the matter of one or two days, just

534
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Speaker 5: being back in that fun setting.

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Speaker 4: It's such a phenomenal thing. How old were you when

536
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Speaker 4: you started diving?

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00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 5: I was probably I was shoot twenty fourteen. I think

538
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 5: when I was in Jacksonville, sow twenty six years old.

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Speaker 4: That's a that is a step I haven't I haven't

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Speaker 4: dived in years and years. But that's a step that

541
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 4: a lot of people who've never done it and don't

542
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:28,919
Speaker 4: understand the incredible majesty of the world that's under the sea.

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Speaker 4: That first step is the one they can't take. Have

544
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Speaker 4: you ever died?

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Speaker 6: No? And I don't see myself ever doing it. Not

546
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Speaker 6: gonna lot to you why I'm terrified of going that

547
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Speaker 6: deep underwater.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry. Yeah, you don't even have to go deep, though,

549
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 5: you can go. The springs and Florida are cool. They

550
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 5: stay seventy two degrees year round. Natural springs. They have

551
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 5: manatees at points where that you can't really swim then,

552
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 5: but fresh water you can dive down to like twenty

553
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 5: feet or you can float like at three feet deep. Yeah,

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00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 5: I can do that.

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00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 7: I do that.

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Speaker 4: Did you did you do you have? Yeah? Did you

557
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 4: have any reluctance to take that first step?

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Speaker 5: I've always wanted to do it. I grew up in California.

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00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 5: My one of my brothers and I fished a ton

560
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 5: and we would kayak fish and you're over Celt beds.

561
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 5: There's great white sharks out there, so it's like a

562
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 5: juvenile breeding ground. I guess there's a ton of juveniles

563
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 5: hanging around and some big some big moms and dads.

564
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 5: So we never did it out there, but there's some

565
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 5: pristine like Anacapa Island and Cataline and things are our

566
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 5: pristine dive locations. When I got to Jacksonville, I had

567
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 5: to do it waters like eighty plus degrees in the summer.

568
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 5: It's a bathtub. You're in board shorts and your BC,

569
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 5: your your vest, that's your floatation device. So we literally

570
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 5: it's eighty five degrees down there and you're sixty feet underwater.

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00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:47,439
Speaker 5: It's it's pretty cool.

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Speaker 4: So where's your favorite dive spot.

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Speaker 5: We dive Saint Pete a lot Saint Pete. We have

574
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Speaker 5: a ton of spots. There's a bunch of natural ledges,

575
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 5: and there's some reres to dive, so we do a

576
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 5: lot of spear fishing. It's cool because you can go

577
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 5: down there and see exactly what you want to take.

578
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 5: You don't have to waste a ton of time on

579
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 5: hook and line and burning a ton of bait. You

580
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 5: go down there and and it's also good there's lionfish

581
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 5: out there invasive you can clean up and you taste delicious,

582
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 5: so it's it's.

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Speaker 4: A win win has all your diving been domestic?

584
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 5: We did? I did, yes, Hawaii.

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00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 4: You ever dive in Hawaii?

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Speaker 5: I have no, I not. I've just snorkeled in Hawaii

587
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:30,439
Speaker 5: and snorkeled. We snorkeled in Saint Lucia, and then we've

588
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 5: done the dry Tortugas so pushing kind of. We've been

589
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 5: in the Bahamas a little bit. But yeah, just just briefly.

590
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 4: You would love you would love diving in Hawaii, but

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00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 4: we did. We digress, uh, and then we're gonna work

592
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 4: on getting Nicole back. We're working on getting down in

593
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 4: the water. I would like to return the conversation to Uh,

594
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 4: mister Aubrey. Very unusual young man, I think because he's

595
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:04,879
Speaker 4: just so composed. I will tell you all of I went.

596
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 4: Brian was in his locker, I think Wednesday last week,

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00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 4: Trent Sigg was in his and Brandon came into his

598
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Speaker 4: and I wanted to have Brandon talk about being on

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Speaker 4: the field with Justin Tucker. Ob arguably the most successful

600
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Speaker 4: kicker in league history, and now here you are in

601
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Speaker 4: your second year, you have all the success. I thought,

602
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 4: surely he would be very impressed about being to field

603
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Speaker 4: with Justin Tucker. He said No, not really. I mean

604
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 4: I don't really look at anybody else. He does some

605
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,399
Speaker 4: things that I really don't want to do. So I said,

606
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Speaker 4: you want to tell me what those are? And Brian

607
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 4: and Trent and Brandon all in Unison said no, he

608
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 4: didn't want to tell you any of that. You don't

609
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Speaker 4: want to tell you any of that. How many kickers

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Speaker 4: that you've worked with, forget about the physical ability. How

611
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Speaker 4: many kickers that you've worked with have had that level

612
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 4: of composure and tunnel vision?

613
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 5: Lucky? I've been with some good guys. I started off

614
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 5: with Josh Scoby as a as a rookie and he

615
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 5: he had an amazing career. I've been with Greg Zura,

616
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:13,280
Speaker 5: lying great career. Brent Maher had that same attitude.

617
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Speaker 4: He was he he did.

618
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 5: He actually was a killer and it was cool to

619
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 5: see and he would he would go as much as

620
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 5: you can. He would go attack. I'd say in attack

621
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 5: mode he was. He was more aggressive, which was great.

622
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 5: Brandon is just neutral. I know we talk about that

623
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 5: word a lot. He's grounded, he's composed. Look at his background,

624
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 5: I mean, what what people don't understand. He was the

625
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 5: number one soccer player in the nation coming out of

626
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 5: high school too, so he's he's been at the top

627
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 5: himself and now he's back up there again. It's it's

628
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 5: just awesome to see.

629
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Speaker 6: How would you describe all the personalities in that room

630
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 6: between you, Brandon and Trent.

631
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Speaker 5: I think it's complimentary. We're we're all pretty laid back.

632
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 5: I think it's a good it's a good thing to

633
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 5: have laid back, even keel kickers. You don't want him

634
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 5: too high, too low. You don't want to get too

635
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 5: hot on a miss and get too excited about making

636
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 5: So he just is constant. I'd say that's a word

637
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 5: for him. He's just he's just constant, consistently, just just constant.

638
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 6: If you can come up with a name for y'all's trio,

639
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 6: what would it be?

640
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 5: I don't know, Yeah, Doc, Yeah, A Banger Butter and Siggs.

641
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 5: He called them Siggs, which is great. So Banger Butter

642
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 5: and Siggs is the current favorite right now.

643
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Speaker 4: We were talking earlier about what Brandon's capacity might be,

644
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Speaker 4: and I mean, I think it to me, it's just

645
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 4: it's just clear you going over seventy yards at some point.

646
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 4: It's kind of fun to see him get the opportunity.

647
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 4: But there's more. You know, the first kicker in the

648
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame, John stener Rude, had a career a

649
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 4: success rate of about fifty four percent. You can't make

650
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Speaker 4: a team at fifty four percent. No, and more and

651
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 4: more and more long kicks close to sixty yards of

652
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 4: being attempted and made. You have a theory about why

653
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,479
Speaker 4: that is and where it's all going.

654
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 5: It's just technical. Like you said, there's more focus on

655
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 5: special teams now. It's more important. You don't have guys

656
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 5: that are playing quarterback and also kicking, playing receiver and kicking.

657
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 5: I mean I did in high school and it's not sustainable.

658
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 4: So what was your other position?

659
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 5: Receiver? Receiver played receiver. So that's what we were looking

660
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 5: at pictures the other day. I've got receiver shoes on

661
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 5: and kicking these big, old, clunky shoes. So it's just, uh,

662
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 5: it's it's it's focus based. You have to you have

663
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 5: to be focused on your spot. You've got to. It's

664
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Speaker 5: it's getting more technical. However, it can get more and

665
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 5: more technical. It has gotten more and more technical, and

666
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 5: analytics are such a big part of things now too.

667
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 5: So the analytics just keep on driving it.

668
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 4: To be how does that work.

669
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 5: Just percentages averages. I mean, it's not gonna affect consistency,

670
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 5: But but numbers are such a bigger focus now. Like

671
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,760
Speaker 5: when when was the net punt average talked about before?

672
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,879
Speaker 5: Like gross punt average. Even when I got into the league,

673
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 5: gross punt average was the big thing. Andy Lee and

674
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 5: Mike Cipher's and Leckler all were averaging. They were pushing

675
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 5: fifty yards and that was a huge thing. They were

676
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 5: getting touching fifty yards gross gross, but their nets were

677
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:26,439
Speaker 5: down in the thirties. Forty really wasn't achieved I think

678
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 5: until right around when I got in the league back

679
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 5: in twenty twelve. Like hitting a forty two yard net

680
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 5: was incredible. So it's just gotten in the last ten

681
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 5: plus years now that then the average record I think

682
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 5: is forty six for punt worre sniffing forty five the

683
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 5: last couple of years, so we're pushing for that as well.

684
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 4: You hit forty four or something.

685
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, we were forty four to nine last year. We

686
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 5: were like forty four to two and then had had

687
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 5: a game last game I think we netted like forty

688
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 5: yards and it dropped us to forty five or nine.

689
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 5: So we are up over that forty five, forty five

690
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 5: two just right there?

691
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 4: Did you look at it after the year Sid, dang it,

692
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 4: I was close to forty five.

693
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Speaker 5: Yeah, we're we're pushing for it. It's a cool Ultimately,

694
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Speaker 5: I want to set the record, obviously, I want to.

695
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Speaker 5: I want to have that number one spot and be

696
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Speaker 5: over forty six. So that's what we're going for.

697
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:17,280
Speaker 4: Over forty six.

698
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 5: Forty six, push forty seven if we can.

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Speaker 4: I love it, and I hope you stay around until

700
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Speaker 4: you do it. For sure, we're gonna take our last

701
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 4: break when we come back. If you've got some questions

702
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 4: for Brian Anger, We've got the time for it and

703
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 4: we will be right back on the Cowboys.

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Speaker 7: Hour Cowboys, No Cowboys, Don't Cowboys.

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00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:41,240
Speaker 1: As supported by Albertson and broadcasting live from Sidecars Social

706
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Speaker 1: at the Star in Frisco, and.

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Speaker 4: We are delighted to have all of you with us,

708
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 4: Brand Shamashaul Hutchinson, our very special guest, the Cowboys All

709
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 4: Star Tutter, Brian Anger, and we have special gratitude for

710
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Speaker 4: Brian being with us. With the sh short week, it's Tuesday,

711
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:06,240
Speaker 4: it's a combination of Wednesday and Thursday. Today and Cowboys

712
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 4: will get on airplane on Wednesday and go to New Jersey.

713
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Speaker 4: And so we're kind of talking about the uh, the

714
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 4: chemistry and the fine points of the kicking game. You

715
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 4: said something a minute ago that I'd never really thought

716
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 4: about your receiver in high school yep, and the punter. Yeah,

717
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Speaker 4: and you didn't change shoes. No, I've never You know,

718
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 4: Danny White for many years was the Cowboys first backup

719
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:35,959
Speaker 4: quarterback then starting quarterback and the punter, and I never

720
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 4: asked him if he changed shoes.

721
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what we're wearing. Soccer cleats as kickers and punters,

722
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 5: so and then the receiver cleats are just a little

723
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 5: bit thicker, a little bit more supportive for guys cutting,

724
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Speaker 5: So it's different.

725
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Speaker 4: All right, let's get some questions from our audience.

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00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 9: Good evening, Brian, My name's Rambo.

727
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Speaker 5: How's it going, Rambo?

728
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 9: So you obviously have top tier skill to make it

729
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 9: the NFL that or are in the NFL. What is

730
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 9: your words of wisdom to high school punters college punters

731
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Speaker 9: for them to move up to the next level.

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00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with what we're talking about with Brad.

733
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 5: Just be an athlete. For me, I was a multi

734
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Speaker 5: sport athlete. I did soccer, baseball, basketball, and football. My

735
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 5: freshman year I stopped playing club soccer and then just

736
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 5: focused on the three. But without basketball, I'd never be

737
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,399
Speaker 5: as jumpy and as explosive as I am. I could

738
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 5: jump out of the gym. Was a good athlete. Baseball,

739
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 5: I was a tremendous hitter. Hand eye coordination and now

740
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 5: foot eye coordination. It ties in and then football. I

741
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 5: didn't play football until freshman year of high school. I

742
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 5: wanted to be a wide receiver. My brother played wide receiver.

743
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 5: I did not want to be a kicker because it

744
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 5: wasn't cool, and I just I fought my parents. So

745
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,280
Speaker 5: kicking is cool. I'll start with that. Kicking is very cool.

746
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 5: I'm going on year thirteen now, and I'll tell you

747
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:08,439
Speaker 5: it's it's pretty freaking cool. So don't specify too much

748
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 5: early on as you go down the road. I know

749
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 5: we talked about about it before. Technically, you keep on growing.

750
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 5: I guess as as you grow, you keep on developing

751
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:19,919
Speaker 5: and and learn a little bit more and more and more.

752
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 5: So yeah, just just be an athlete.

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Speaker 4: Was it when you were drafted in the third round

754
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Speaker 4: by Jacksonville? I don't know. Was it was it Rich

755
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 4: Eisen or somebody who said, yeah, he hate kickers are

756
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 4: people too?

757
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 5: Yeah? Punters punters or people people too? Punters are people too?

758
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 5: I was. I was the og of the punters or

759
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 5: people to movement. It's pretty cool.

760
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Speaker 4: Do you have a shirt or anything?

761
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Speaker 5: I do. I have the only the original shirt from

762
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 5: Rich I have. It's it's pretty neat. He presented it

763
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 5: on his podcast early on when I was when I

764
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:50,800
Speaker 5: was a rookie, it was it was awesome.

765
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 4: Oh I've got to get ahold of them to see

766
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Speaker 4: if copies of that are available.

767
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Speaker 5: I you doing.

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Speaker 10: My name is Jamine Brad. I gotta thank you first

769
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 10: appreciation for since the Omni I've been rocking with you.

770
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I recognize you and I appreciate it. Thank you.

771
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 5: But Brian, happy early birthday.

772
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 10: Also traveling to Jersey. I need it with you. But

773
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 10: life advice. I heard your daughter dad of two girl dads.

774
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 10: I need some help advice?

775
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 5: What you need for me?

776
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 10: I got two girls at home? Can I get some advice?

777
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Speaker 4: How old are daughters?

778
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Speaker 10: I got four and one and a half. And I'm

779
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Speaker 10: a Libra as well, so they were making fun of me.

780
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 10: For being late, spoken Libra. So I need some help,

781
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,359
Speaker 10: you can't you give you? Give me some advice? What's

782
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Speaker 10: up for me?

783
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 5: It's just being present, be present while you're there. Social media,

784
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 5: everything is a distraction. You can get stuck on your phone.

785
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 5: But put the phone down and be present, I think

786
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 5: is the most important thing. I'm busy. I get back

787
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 5: and I'm in dad mode. When I get home, I

788
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 5: play with my girls and until they have to go

789
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 5: to bed. We're having fun and then go to bed

790
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 5: and my wife and I can relax and hang out

791
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:56,399
Speaker 5: a little bit. So just be present. Appreciate you so much,

792
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:57,760
Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 6: What's the favorite thing to do with your daughters.

794
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Speaker 5: We're all over the place. I guess my My three

795
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 5: year old likes having fun. So we're playing kitchen, we're playing.

796
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 5: Her new thing is playing fabric, she calls it. She

797
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 5: has some little cushions that she can make like playhouses

798
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 5: and forts and stuff. And she wants to wrap her

799
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 5: her pads and and different types of fabrics and make

800
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 5: them decorate them and stuff. So I get stickers on

801
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 5: my head and glitter everywhere so that it's fun. Yeah,

802
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 5: of course, of course they are how old is the

803
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:30,919
Speaker 5: youngest one nine months.

804
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 4: So is the three year old guy. To the point

805
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,439
Speaker 4: yet where she, you know, wants to make you.

806
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 5: Up and she has. She actually just decorated herself yesterday

807
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 5: for the game. She she she had a bunch of

808
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 5: makeup all over her face. I'll show you the picture later.

809
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:49,320
Speaker 5: It's funny, but yeah, did did make up herself. Grandma

810
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 5: gave her a makeup kit, a big old makeup drunk

811
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Speaker 5: and she gets only certain times because it'll get everywhere.

812
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 5: But Alice and my wife was with her and doing

813
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,439
Speaker 5: her makeup, and she just just cribbles all over her face.

814
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 4: How about on your face? She tried to make it.

815
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 5: I think I've only had it once. I've had a

816
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 5: little bit. But she just got like cheeks and maybe

817
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 5: a little bit of nose and forehead, but nothing too bad.

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00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 4: I think we need to keep track of that as

819
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 4: time goes on. So the other sports, uh, which which

820
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 4: was of the other sports? Which was your favorite? And

821
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 4: which at which were you best?

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00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 5: Favorite? Was basketball? I loved it. I'm very competitive and

823
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 5: kind of was a little bit of an animal. I

824
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 5: guess I'd have a little switch turned. I'm very laid

825
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 5: back for the most part, but basketball and soccer I

826
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 5: just got kind of mean, and I miss that a

827
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Speaker 5: little bit. We can only compete so much as punters.

828
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 5: The best was baseball. I thought I was going to

829
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 5: chase a baseball scholarship. I was a good player and

830
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 5: a really good hitter and was just kind of growing

831
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 5: into my body. I'm long and lean, so I have

832
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 5: more baseball leverage. I'd say I had a good arm

833
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 5: and and just was fast and could cover a lot

834
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Speaker 5: of ground. I played out field and played first base

835
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Speaker 5: just because I was a lanky. But I'd say I

836
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 5: was best at baseball. I loved basketball.

837
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 4: How did football win?

838
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 5: It just went nuts. I went to an event my parents.

839
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,760
Speaker 5: I fought my parents for about a month of going

840
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 5: to a Chris Sailor small group lesson in southern California.

841
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,879
Speaker 5: There was something you wanted to do, something I did

842
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 5: not want to did my parents wanted me to do it.

843
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 5: Going from sophomore to junior year in high school, I

844
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 5: was a field goal kicker as well as a place kicker,

845
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 5: and they wanted me to just go to a private

846
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 5: lesson just to learn the fundamentals and know what I

847
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 5: was doing. And then went kicked and I was okay,

848
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 5: and then punted the last fifteen minutes, did really well.

849
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 5: Chris told me, hey, you have a future in punting.

850
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 5: Coming to my event in Vegas in January. This was

851
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 5: like in October, So come in January. You do well,

852
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 5: you'll get looked at, you might get some letters of interest.

853
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 5: I went as a underclassman and won it, so everything

854
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 5: just blossom from there went crazy.

855
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 4: So mom and dad heard scholarship.

856
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, scholarship. I got offered shortly after that, and

857
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 5: we didn't expect it. We just thought we'd get some

858
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 5: letters of interest and say hey, we want you to

859
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 5: come to our camp or do whatever. And then I

860
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,240
Speaker 5: started getting offers and it went crazy as a junior.

861
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 5: So ever since then, it's been a roller coaster ride.

862
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 6: At what point did you start loving punting?

863
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 5: I don't know, probably at some point in the NFL.

864
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 5: I just it never really settled down for me in college,

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Speaker 5: and I was rated well and did well in college,

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Speaker 5: and I just feel like it was such a like

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Speaker 5: thrown at me so fast. I never really expected to

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Speaker 5: do it, and I honestly, at first I didn't even

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Speaker 5: want to do it. So once I got offers, I

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Speaker 5: was like Wow, this is actually really going to happen.

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Speaker 5: And I remember in high school, my dad, Mike Cipher's

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Speaker 5: was with the Chargers and my dad had cut out

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Speaker 5: a little newspaper blip. I'm dating myself right now. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 5: but newspaper. He cut out a little too, my two

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Speaker 5: newspaper article about Mike Seifer signing like a three year,

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Speaker 5: eight and a half million dollar deal, and my dad said,

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Speaker 5: look at this can be a legitimate job, this can

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Speaker 5: be a legitimate lifestyle for you, Like, look at this.

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Speaker 5: And I read that, and I was like, holy moly, man,

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Speaker 5: like this is that?

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Speaker 4: So you didn't say, yeah, yeah, but Dad, I can

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Speaker 4: hit a curve ball.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, that's it. My brother's best friend. My brother's

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Speaker 5: ten years older than me. His best friend was Joe Porchard.

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Speaker 5: He got drafted in the first round. I think he

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Speaker 5: was number four or five pick overall. At that point,

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Speaker 5: he was the highest paid signing bonus I think any

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Speaker 5: rookie had signed. And he was up and down, went

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Speaker 5: from Triple A, Triple A up to Majors back down,

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Speaker 5: up down, up down, up down, and he just couldn't

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Speaker 5: quite make it. That was the Mark McGuire kind of

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Speaker 5: end of Mark McGuire, Sammy Sosabar, Barry Bond's home run dynasty.

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Speaker 5: So it was boom or bust. And he struck out

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00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,359
Speaker 5: a lot in the in the Pros and then went

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Speaker 5: into the miners and would do well in Triple A

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Speaker 5: and just was up and down, up and down of

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Speaker 5: seeing him. It's tough to make it in baseball. So

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Speaker 5: the whole football thing took off. I was the number

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Speaker 5: one recruit coming out of high school and then was

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Speaker 5: the number one punter coming out of college. So it's

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Speaker 5: it's it's it's just incredible. I look back and it's

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Speaker 5: just kind of crazy to see how it happened and

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Speaker 5: it all played out. Now I'm going on your thirteen.

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Speaker 5: It's just like, what the heck, man, I'm still still

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Speaker 5: going So so it's fun.

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Speaker 4: Not only are you still going there, the evidence is

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00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 4: very tangible that you're still getting better and it's a

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Speaker 4: joy to watch you perform, and it's a real honor

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Speaker 4: to have you with us, called your friend. Really appreciate you.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Brian Anger. Everybody, thanks heard for Brian. Cowboys

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Speaker 4: will get on an airplane on Wednesday and go to

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Speaker 4: New Jersey and Nicole and I will be back a

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Speaker 4: week from tonight at Sidecar Social of the Star District

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Speaker 4: in Frisco on our next Cowboy Hour.

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