WEBVTT - TGI - Episode 212 “Turnaround” 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:24.239 So I'm back here in my childhood bedroom in beautiful Connecticut. 0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:27.840 Let the jokes begin in the wonderful snowy. Is that 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:29.880 a pink Floyd poster behind you? It is? I'm been 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:35.239 my childhood of course. And uh, as I do every 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:37.040 night when I can't sleep and I'm here, I go 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:38.760 through some of my old stuff. And what do I 0:00:38.800 --> 0:00:43.840 stumble upon but the Hartford Current, from which is the 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:54.400 oldest newspaper in them from September fifth, nineteen ninety three, okay, 0:00:54.960 --> 0:01:00.360 and it is the Surprises or Snoozer's edition of what's 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:05.479 coming out on TV? What's gonna be good? What's gonna 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:10.920 be terrible? According to I won't say his name from 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:14.679 the Harvard Current. Oh, you should definitely say his name 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:18.399 from thirty years in print. He put it in print. 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:24.560 He should stand by his opinion. James Enderst is his name, okay. 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:28.600 And if you go to uh, we go to G 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:32.520 seven people and we go you have to turn pages, 0:01:32.840 --> 0:01:37.520 have to turn pages. Wow. Right below the headline how 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:42.639 did these shows make it to TV? There is number 0:01:42.680 --> 0:01:47.120 four Boy meets whirld Yes, I shall read you what 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:51.600 mister Innst said about our show. Thank you a show 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:53.920 that makes you want to bring corporal punishment back to 0:01:53.960 --> 0:02:01.680 the classroom. Oh my god, bench Aavage Wild Palms is 0:02:01.680 --> 0:02:04.560 the supposedly ankst ridden eleven year old kid. We think 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:07.920 he's faking it. And William Daniels Saint Elsewhere is the 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:10.360 teacher with the less than tender touch, who, of course 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:14.480 is a softie deep down inside. Another three kid sitcom, 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:18.800 this time from Dinosaurs producer Michael j Michael Jacobs. It's 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:23.920 no Wonder Years, that's for sure. What that is our review? 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:27.360 Now the shows that this same guy said we're smash 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:31.600 hits and we should be looking out for Oh good, yeah, yeah, 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:39.360 let's hear Dave's World what Bakersfield PD. No, that didn't last, 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:46.200 the John Larrichette show okay sure, and one of the 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:54.360 other ones, The Mommies, My Brother's show. Amazing. Yeah, well 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:56.799 we could. We could live in an alternate world where 0:02:57.040 --> 0:02:59.399 James got his way and my brother would be doing 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:04.119 his rewatch podcast for the legendary sitcom on The Mommies, 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:07.880 which lasted two seasons. Wow, that's so funny. If you 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:10.360 go back to what we were talking about before with 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:13.400 my father, who is not at all a stage dad, 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:19.040 apparently he wrote this guy a letter of when okay, 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:21.760 So so I did think we need to start revising. 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:30.480 This is not the stage dad, he is the ultimately mister, 0:03:30.600 --> 0:03:33.600 and a letter kind of saying, what are you thinking? 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:36.880 That's my my son show? It will be It'll be brilliant. 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:40.240 Oh god? Did he think he would sway the guy's opinion? 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:42.640 Like yet, what would do is make the guy dig 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:47.200 his heels in more like yeah, this is what um. 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:49.840 By the way, I should have also started by saying 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:53.320 that I need to hop off this zoom faster than 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:56.720 normal tonight because there's a Bakersfield PD rerun I want 0:03:56.720 --> 0:04:01.800 to catch sure, Sure, sure, yeah, absolutely huge show. It's 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:05.560 funny to think about how it kind of used to be, 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:08.840 like if you were a critic in America, even a 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:12.280 television critic, you were kind of down on the entire medium, right, 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:15.720 Like if something was popular, you just trashed it, like 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:18.520 in this. We've talked about this before that we always 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:23.200 felt like culturally insignificant when was on the air, and 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:25.760 it was partly because we were we were compared to 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:29.760 Wonder Years, which is totally unfair in retrospect, like they're 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:32.479 completely different shows. But I guess the Ben Savage Fred 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:35.160 Savage connection just invited that, of course a coming of 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:37.880 age story. But it's like, but one is a sitcom 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:40.400 in front of a live studio audience, which is clearly 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:44.760 more you know, one foot steadily in the theater theatrical tradition, 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:46.680 and the other was like trying to be a movie 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:50.920 every week with voiceover and single camera, like not even 0:04:50.960 --> 0:04:53.800 really a comedy. It's you know, mostly a drama. So 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:57.240 it's so weird that that. But I felt that, like, 0:04:57.279 --> 0:04:59.200 didn't we feel that. Didn't we feel like we were 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:01.920 making something that was sort of i don't know, like 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:06.359 not critically certainly not critically acclaimed, and not even really 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:09.800 recognized as like real art or real like anything of 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:12.280 lasting value. I felt like we were making like popcorn, 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:15.280 you know. It was like this this little kids show. Um. 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:18.120 And of course the irony is that our show is 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:23.120 still being talked about and we have this incredible fan base. Yeah, 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:28.840 I'm I'm okay with When we were on the air, 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:31.720 we were kind of always overlooked and it was all 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:34.160 about the other shows on TJF and all the other shows. 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:37.080 I'm totally okay with that. What is starting to miss 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:39.479 me a little bit is when there's all these kind 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:44.320 of look back at the nineties, we're still never mentioned it, 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:47.279 really never. It's every other show like they did, like 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:49.479 TV of the Nineties on CNN they did kind of 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:52.960 like all these different retrospectives. They never talk about boy Mutral, 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:57.799 it's dotink, even like the puzzles, like Sue loves doing puzzles. 0:05:57.800 --> 0:06:00.440 They did like Phoebe in the nineties, and there's one 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:03.120 tiny picture of coreing to Panga, and then it's every 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:05.880 other nineties show is like this giant thing. So now 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:12.200 I'm starting to get miffed when I wasn't there. Well, 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:15.520 you know, we did get asked to do that CNN show, 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:17.880 by the way, I think we said that, which is 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:21.559 maybe why they then did it include us. I didn't 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:28.719 get asked, would have done it? Oh well, you know, well, 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:30.600 I think my favorite part of that story is that 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:36.560 you even hoarded bad reviews of yourself, right, you were like, 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:39.440 you know what, this is a terrible review, saving it. 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:44.160 I'm keeping it, keep it. I honestly can't remember. Well, 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:46.520 I guess I wasn't tapped in enough to even read reviews, 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:49.000 but I don't remember ever hearing a good review except 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:51.800 one time. Do you guys remember when Michael read a 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:54.479 good review of our show to us all at the 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:57.400 table read when we were like in seasons vaguely yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:06:57.440 --> 0:07:00.400 It was like some critics somewhere picked up on our 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:03.800 show out of nowhere, I forget what publication, and they 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:08.000 they wrote this like very extensive, like hey, this is 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:10.600 the show that no one's talking about but actually deserves 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:12.880 a lot of credit. And Michael was very proud of 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:15.720 it because it, you know, recognized all the things that 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:17.480 he felt he was putting into the show and that 0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:19.160 we were all doing. So he read it to us 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:21.080 at the table read like at one time, and I 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:25.720 remember being like, wow, somebody's actually somebody got it us. Yeah, 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:28.320 and it is and is picking up on all the 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:30.880 things we are talking about that we want to be doing, 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:34.280 Like somebody actually tapped into all of those things, and 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:36.560 so it really must be there. It's not just for 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:39.520 us right now. The one I remember that Michael did 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:41.800 at the table read was he said, you know you're 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:45.120 becoming popular when the title of your show starts to 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:48.480 become part of the lexicon. And he said, I saw 0:07:48.520 --> 0:07:51.720 this the first time with King Charles or with Prince 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:55.679 Charles in England when one of the titles he started, 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:57.640 he did this big thing and it was Charles in Charge. 0:07:57.680 --> 0:08:00.000 He went, wow, my show is really me. So he said, 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:01.720 I wanted to show you this article and it was 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:04.960 some big skiing magazine and the cover said boy meets 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:08.800 Matterhorn and he went, so we're making it, We're making it. 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:13.280 I remember going like, that's kind yeah, because boy meets 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:17.280 Girl is like a saying, right, that's ridiculous, right, So 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:19.480 I kind of like, oh, he's reaching to make us 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:21.840 feel better. I appreciate, will take credit for every boy 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:25.600 meets headline. Ever, every boy meets something is totally because 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:29.600 of us, right, even if it predates us pretty much. Yeah, Well, 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:32.800 welcome to boy meets Pod meets World. I'm Danielle Fishel, 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:38.360 I'm Rider Strong, and I'm Wilfredell. So we are here 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:42.199 today to talk about season two, episode twelve, The Turnaround. 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:46.520 It originally aired December sixteenth, nineteen ninety four. The synopsis 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:50.000 is when Corey mistakenly agrees to take a nerdy girl 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:52.520 to the dance. He and Sean decide to give her 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:56.199 a makeover and hopes that she'll become more popular. It 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:58.960 was directed by David Trayner. It was written by Michelle 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:02.679 Palermo new writer Alert. Yes, I think this was one 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:05.120 of our spec scripts. I think this is an outside 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:09.000 script because I don't remember anybody named Michelle Palermo. No 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:14.400 mean either. Yeah. So guest starring Darlene Vogel, who returns 0:09:14.440 --> 0:09:18.920 as Katherine kat Tompkins, Natania Ross as Ingrid Iverson. She 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:21.120 would go on to play Robin Russo on The Secret 0:09:21.200 --> 0:09:25.520 World of Alex mac Marnette Patterson as Alison Cheever, Jennifer 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:28.920 Banko as Becky Schultz, and the introduction of Will Estes 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:31.880 as Alex, who will appear on three Boy Meats World 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:33.960 episodes and has now been on the TV show Blue 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:38.280 Bloods for almost three hundred episodes. He did three episodes 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:39.760 of our show. I was like, oh my god, Yeah 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:43.520 he was around. Yes, Yeah, that's exactly right. Natania's coming 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:47.319 on the Natania Catania is coming on. Yeah. She came 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:49.199 up to me and Will. We were at a convention 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:52.680 h three year years ago, right, it was right during 0:09:52.880 --> 0:09:55.160 like right, the first convention I did after the pandemic, 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:58.000 and she walked right up to us, and she has 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:00.240 like very fond memories of being on the show. And um, 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:02.680 and and we we have a mutual friend in Larissa 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:05.200 Oleanik who was on Alex Mac with her and they're 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:07.880 still like best friends. So it was it was good 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:09.200 to reconnect with her. I can't wait to have her 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:10.960 on the show. So yes, it will be great to 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:13.160 have Natania Ross on the show when she comes to 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:16.560 visit us. UM. So let's jump into our recap. We 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:19.440 start in the school hallway. Mister Feenie is putting up 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:23.280 posters for the Turnaround dance, when mister Turner in quite 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:27.560 a tie. Oh it's all, but it's always the tie 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:30.240 with the shirt, right, it's always the like pattern on 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:35.160 a pattern that's just spectacular. It's so busy and and 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:37.880 and like you said, writer, I so badly want to 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:40.600 be in high definition because even when I posit to 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:43.200 try and like see what the tie is, it blurs. 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:46.439 It's like, yeah, yeah, what it is? It looks you're 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:48.840 just squinting at the screen. It looks like Jack and 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:52.000 the Beanstalk with like a boy climbing up a massive tree. 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:54.320 I have no idea what it was. I just think 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:56.480 that now ninety percent of his ties just have some 0:10:56.520 --> 0:10:59.319 sort of a fish theme and I just go with that. Okay. 0:10:59.679 --> 0:11:01.960 They can kind of all look like fishes a little bit, 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:04.599 so it's like, okay, maybe you meant like fishes in 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:09.120 the band fish like drugs, like nice just swirls and 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:12.120 weird colors. I love that is Yeah, it's absolutely it's 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:13.840 it's a picture a nectar tie for all that sort, 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:16.640 for all the fish heads out there. Wow, no idea 0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:20.360 what that means album picture a nectar, great album. It's 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:22.360 a down with the Seas tie. No, okay, good, okay, 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:26.439 all right? Wow? So uh yeah Turner. Mister Turner pokes 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:28.440 fun at Phoene, saying he's surprised no one is helping 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:31.000 him with this grunt work, and then Phoene hands Turner. 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:33.120 The rest of the posters should have seen that one coming. 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:36.560 Mister Phoenie explains that the turnaround dances when girls ask 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:39.280 the guys, and mister Turner says, oh boy, he's glad 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:42.679 those days are over. Um. We used to at our 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:46.000 school we called this dance the vice dance, which stood 0:11:46.040 --> 0:11:49.880 for vice versa. Oh okay, and then isn't also a 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:54.520 sad Hawkins? Why why Sadie Hawkins? Who Sadie Hawkins. What's 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:57.600 that mean? She was? It's so funny. I don't remember 0:11:57.640 --> 0:11:59.439 in what context. But Sue and I actually had the 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:02.960 same converse when we first started dating, like fourteen years ago, 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:04.520 and we looked it up and now I can't remember 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:07.160 what it was. It was like a woman new cool story, 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:10.960 Yeah somebody else not all going to be winners, Danielle 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:18.719 hang bro Im. I thought you were sure this conversation, 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:22.160 so I have the perfect answer and interesting enough for 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:24.760 me to remember. We couldn't remember, and we looked it up, 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:28.680 but we learned it, and now I can't remember. Is 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:30.840 this still a thing? Do you think? Do? Do? Do 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:33.080 school still do? Why do they call it a Sadie 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:35.920 Hawkins dance? The Sadie Hawkins Dance is named after the 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:40.679 Little Abner comic strip character Sadie Hawkins, created by cartoonist 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:44.160 Al cap. In the strip, Sadie Hawkins Day fell on 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:47.079 a given day in November, but it was never specified 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:50.720 which day. Hmm, that doesn't seem to make any sense. 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:54.000 So she was just a female character in a comic strip, 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:58.400 you guess, So yeah, maybe she was. Yeah, I always 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:00.880 called I referred to these There was a dance at 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:06.880 school last weekend. Yeah, it is still so shocking to 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:11.560 me that you weren't. It's so interesting that, like in 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:15.600 your school everyone was apparently blind, and in Hollywood you 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:19.480 were literally plucked out as being like, here's obviously the 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:22.600 guy who's going to play the world's most handsome, cool 0:13:22.800 --> 0:13:25.160 older brother. I also wonder how much of that was 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:27.240 because you were going in a way like you were 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:31.200 going to New York. Yeah, your energies were elsewhere there. See, 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:32.920 that's what they That's what everyone says when I talk 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:34.840 to them now about it. But it just wasn't the case. 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:37.160 I just it's also it's different. I mean you you 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:39.599 you know this more than Danielle's probably right, because you 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:41.760 grew up in a smaller town. When you grow up 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:44.920 with people that you've known since you know, kindergarten or 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:48.160 second grade, you go through kind of ebbs and flows 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:49.960 of your friends with them, you're not friends with them, 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:52.640 you date somebody, you don't date them. My flow was 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:59.160 done by sixth grade, right sixteen. Gosh, I was so 0:13:59.320 --> 0:14:03.760 cool and I didn't think I was cool, but sixteen. Yeah, 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:07.080 it's been it's been a real struggle since we got 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:08.679 that on the time Machine list. Right, we got that 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:13.520 on the time Machine list absolutely all right, so uh 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:16.000 miss missus chart. Well, my question that I was asking, 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:18.520 do do you think do schools still do this? Do 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:20.960 they still have a girls ass guys? Is that even 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:24.720 still a thing? It seems like gender wouldn't be put 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:26.960 into anything nowadays in a school, right, I would it 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:28.880 would just be have a dance. Yeah, we're having a 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:34.040 dance whenever. Yeah. I wonder if dances are even still popular. 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:37.200 I think actually would be right, yeah, yeah, yeah, we 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:40.520 need virtualize dating, you know, to like get people to 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:43.800 sort of out of their shells, and especially nowadays because 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:45.800 it's a couple hours, maybe not on your phone, not 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:48.280 on social media, not on this tex Stoe, if you're 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:51.240 actually with people and doing getting going into a room together. 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:53.760 I would actually be shocked if this is not still 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:56.360 very popular in most schools across the country. I mean, 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:58.520 it may be something that's starting to be phased out, 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:01.760 but I bet I bet the trade are still are 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:04.000 still continuing on. So I bet this is probably still 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:10.080 something that happens where sounds dangerous though it does in 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:19.600 Miami Vice. I'm imagining like in the back, crazy foul 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:32.200 so miss Tompkins walks up and Phoene asks her to 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:35.080 chaperone the dance and says that she can invite a gentleman. 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:36.960 It looks like she's going to ask mister Turner, but 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:39.280 instead she tells him to raise the poster just a 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:42.080 little bit on the right, and Corey and Sean walk 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:45.160 to the lockers. Corey is happy the pressure is off 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:48.280 because now the girls have to ask the guys. Eric 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:50.640 overhears them and ask if that's what they really think. 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:53.520 He tells them the turnaround dance determines where they stand 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:56.120 and the type of girl that asks you tells you 0:15:56.200 --> 0:16:00.840 who you are, which I thought was a um. I 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:03.040 thought that was a really smart premise for Eric to 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:06.400 bring into the situation like a whole new not just 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:09.360 about oh man, it's you know, you have to worry 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:11.080 about whether or not you're going to get asked, but 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:14.040 then who who do you end up going with? Because 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:15.840 that tells you where you are and the I thought 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:19.520 that was really clever. Well this is it struck me 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:22.640 that we were definitely throughout season two and it seems 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:25.600 like this has happened a bunch and will probably continue 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:31.920 to happen. Eric is is this figure in the script 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:35.120 who's like the thesis statement guy, like you know what 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:37.080 I mean, Like he comes in and says like, this 0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:39.440 is the rule, this is the way it always is, 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:42.080 and then of course we watch that either play out 0:16:42.160 --> 0:16:43.840 or not. It's sort of like in Seinfeld whenever they 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:46.040 would have a situation then to be like, you know, well, 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:47.920 the guy, you know, this is the rule, this is 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:49.600 the way it always is. You do this, and then 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:51.560 this happens, and then of course you watch that gets 0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:54.880 subverted Eric, like will your role in the show has 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:57.640 been to be sort of the authority for better or worse, 0:16:57.720 --> 0:17:00.720 who like makes this bold thesis statement that then becomes 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:03.480 the logic of the entire episode, and all the comedy 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:06.000 and all the situations sort of revolve around whatever that 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:08.840 logic statement that you made to open the show with. 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:12.959 It's it's it's kind of a thankless position. It's like 0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:15.959 it's interesting. Well, first of all, I couldn't tell if 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:19.280 you were doing Jerry or George, but it's the I've 0:17:19.280 --> 0:17:23.240 seen four episodes of your person will work on that 0:17:23.600 --> 0:17:26.520 um but the uh, it also was the appression we 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:29.000 used to do a Siefeld depression, which was a line 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:30.679 from Boy Meats World that we would do it in 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:33.520 Seinfeld's voice to remember. I think it was a line 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:37.280 for Boys in the Shower I'm gap, I'm gap. Oh yeah, what, 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:40.440 I don't remember what it was like at I'm always 0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:42.119 gap in the shower of the gap, and then you 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:45.399 did it used to do it as Jerry Seinsfolk. What 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:49.520 I mean, I'm gap. Of course I'm gaping. I'm good. 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:52.840 The thing I liked about this episode, well, first of all, 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:57.800 they are trying to make Sean and Corey and then 0:17:57.960 --> 0:18:01.080 Eric kind of work together the first time that I'd 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:03.320 ever really seen that happen, which is which is kind 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:06.000 of cool. Yes, but it does. It seems like they 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:09.600 were doing levels of adulthood in this episode, if that 0:18:09.640 --> 0:18:13.560 makes sense, where it was one level above Corey and 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:17.640 Sean is Eric kind of like I've been there right 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:20.760 where you are, but only a year or two ago. Yeah, 0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:25.440 and then it's Turner and the new teacher, and then 0:18:25.520 --> 0:18:29.280 it's Phoenie and then while you're also forgetting and Allan 0:18:29.800 --> 0:18:32.400 and Allen. Yes, So they did these kind of levels 0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:35.800 of dating or relationship hood in this episode, which I 0:18:35.800 --> 0:18:38.399 thought was was kind of interesting. Yeah, and I'm not. 0:18:38.480 --> 0:18:41.119 It really worked. I loved the three of you guys together, 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:44.000 and yeah, I thought I thought it was really beautiful, 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:45.159 so too, I thought it was good. It was a 0:18:45.160 --> 0:18:47.679 good episode. So Eric tells Coorey and Sean if they 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:50.679 want a cool girl, they have to position themselves, stand 0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:54.680 near their lockers and make sure they're seen. Eric positions 0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:57.280 himself literally in the way of Jacqueline while holding his 0:18:57.359 --> 0:19:01.359 favorite folder. You were holding those, I never I never 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:06.080 miss it when you have one of those. I think 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:09.639 it really is and just tackles the girl as she 0:19:09.680 --> 0:19:12.320 walks by. Well, she just basically tackles you, and you 0:19:12.359 --> 0:19:14.480 just go right with her. Just here we go. I'm 0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:17.480 going this direction too. It worked. Yeah, it worked, and 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:20.120 it was very funny. So Corey tries the same type 0:19:20.119 --> 0:19:22.919 of positioning, but to no avail, and that's when Becky 0:19:23.000 --> 0:19:25.399 comes up and asks Sean to the dance. Corey is 0:19:25.440 --> 0:19:28.800 impressed because she's like the third coolest girl in school. 0:19:29.880 --> 0:19:33.159 Did you guys think this was like her looking at 0:19:33.200 --> 0:19:37.359 your butt? Okay, no, I was more like, why is 0:19:37.400 --> 0:19:43.080 my head? I actually think it was part of the joke, 0:19:43.200 --> 0:19:47.040 because again, yes, rider, your locker was now the bottom 0:19:47.119 --> 0:19:50.439 locker and you were bent over and Ben comes up 0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:52.679 to you. Corey says, what kind of girl do you 0:19:52.680 --> 0:19:55.879 think you're going to get from this position? And then 0:19:56.040 --> 0:19:58.399 she comes and asks you a question. And when she 0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:01.800 walks away, she checks out your booty. Well, nobody, that's 0:20:01.800 --> 0:20:06.560 the thing. No, no no, no, Unfortunately she checks him out 0:20:06.840 --> 0:20:09.160 when he's really he's in the locker, she checks out 0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:13.719 his butt. Okay, when she's leaving, he's facing her and 0:20:13.840 --> 0:20:24.320 she's checking out his crotch. Just my crot Okay, it's all. 0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:27.840 It looked like she checked out your junk, nodded and 0:20:27.920 --> 0:20:30.520 walked away. Well then I needed to be wearing Tony's 0:20:30.560 --> 0:20:35.880 pants clearly needed to be needed. Screw these baggy jinkos. 0:20:35.960 --> 0:20:39.720 I needed to really emphasized in the paint game. So 0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:42.439 I do think that was It literally was that it 0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:45.720 was a It was a booty joke, which you know. Okay, 0:20:46.040 --> 0:20:48.000 so I didn't tell you guys this, But we're watching 0:20:48.040 --> 0:20:51.199 an episode Alex and I don't remember which episode, and 0:20:52.119 --> 0:20:54.280 Tony walked out of the classroom the allway and she 0:20:54.359 --> 0:20:57.280 just went and I was like what, and she's like, 0:20:57.520 --> 0:21:00.399 it's just some tight pants for a teacher to beware 0:21:04.080 --> 0:21:05.800 and I was like, oh okay, I thought maybe you 0:21:05.920 --> 0:21:07.679 just out of attractive, and she's like, no, it's the 0:21:07.760 --> 0:21:11.080 parents are a little much. Yeah, oh my god, in 0:21:11.080 --> 0:21:14.240 the hair love it. Oh my gosh, thank god. We 0:21:14.320 --> 0:21:18.159 love Tony. We do. And then Topanga walks up to 0:21:18.240 --> 0:21:20.639 Corey and Sean and she knows that they're waiting for 0:21:20.680 --> 0:21:22.440 a girl to walk by and ask them to the dance. 0:21:22.600 --> 0:21:24.960 Topanga reveals she's not going to the dance. It's a 0:21:25.000 --> 0:21:30.520 protest because of gender bias. And then's back for a moment. 0:21:32.280 --> 0:21:35.520 We get some old Topanga. I mean, it's like it's 0:21:35.600 --> 0:21:38.560 new new, old Topanga. It's like, stay taking it all, 0:21:38.640 --> 0:21:40.040 you know, this is the best of it. This is 0:21:40.040 --> 0:21:41.800 the way it probably should have been from the moment 0:21:41.880 --> 0:21:45.320 Season two started. Yeah, keep those lines, keep that perspective. 0:21:45.359 --> 0:21:47.879 But then of course it's matured into, you know, something 0:21:48.040 --> 0:21:50.080 slightly different, and this is a great use of that. 0:21:50.119 --> 0:21:53.000 I thought it was perfect. It also changes instantly when 0:21:53.040 --> 0:21:55.080 she's like, you know, and then my dad, he's taking 0:21:55.080 --> 0:21:57.200 me to New York to go she's happy for Christmas, 0:21:58.080 --> 0:22:01.680 and I call him my daddy, which is the first 0:22:01.680 --> 0:22:06.960 time I don't call him Jedediah. Yeah. Also, I'm not 0:22:07.040 --> 0:22:09.080 needed in this episode. Get me out of here? Why 0:22:09.080 --> 0:22:11.879 are you? You don't come back, do you? I'm in 0:22:12.000 --> 0:22:14.879 I'm in Turner's classroom later to like mumble something and 0:22:14.920 --> 0:22:19.080 then with the lightning speed of the flash, I am 0:22:19.240 --> 0:22:22.160 out of the classroom the minute the bell rings. I'm 0:22:22.240 --> 0:22:24.280 literally the first person out. The bell rings and I'm 0:22:24.280 --> 0:22:27.000 like go and I just out. Yeah, not needed in 0:22:27.000 --> 0:22:29.040 this episode? Why was I here? I can't believe they 0:22:29.119 --> 0:22:31.359 kept this take because I don't know if it bothered 0:22:31.400 --> 0:22:33.760 you guys, but your jacket being hung up on your 0:22:35.160 --> 0:22:37.520 I couldn't take my eyes off it. I just fix 0:22:37.560 --> 0:22:40.240 your jacket, Fix your jacket. Well, we're gonna cut to 0:22:40.240 --> 0:22:42.399 a different take, right, It's like no, So it's like 0:22:42.640 --> 0:22:45.000