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Speaker 1: inside this week. Lara over to this here. JJ staying

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Speaker 1: this time. And so my three guys were always from

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Speaker 1: the beginning, stike In always number one, and then you know,

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Speaker 1: between Callahan and Kafka, you know, were my really other choices,

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Speaker 1: but it was definitely Stike in number one because what

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Speaker 1: I was looking for is three things Matt along with

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Speaker 1: head coaching traits. But I was looking for number one

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Speaker 1: offense as designer, number two play caller, and number three

435
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Speaker 1: quarterback whispers and not that I expect this guy to

436
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:06,200
Speaker 1: do all three of those things. Okay, he can't micromanage,

437
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Speaker 1: but when you bring in a head coach that's competent

438
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Speaker 1: in all those areas, he certainly knows what buttons to push. Now,

439
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Speaker 1: I've grown to like him in a very short time.

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Speaker 1: You guys, you guys have all had your shots with him.

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Speaker 1: I've done all your interviews. What I like about him,

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Speaker 1: I know his reputation, I know his work on tape.

443
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 1: I don't know him personally. But what I like about him,

444
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 1: it's no bullcrap with him. It's football, football, football, and

445
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Speaker 1: he's very forceful. He's not You're not going to get

446
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Speaker 1: a lot of pizzazz. You're not gonna get a lot

447
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Speaker 1: of crap about other stuff. And to be honest with you,

448
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Speaker 1: that's my that's my wheelhouse. I want an Exino guy

449
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Speaker 1: that can push the right buttons and so forth and

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Speaker 1: so on. So I've been happy with it so far.

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Speaker 1: I like the process for several reasons. One, I don't

452
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Speaker 1: think you can vet these things enough. If you if

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Speaker 1: you don't somebody that you've worked with and you've been

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Speaker 1: through adversity, you can't vet that enough. And so whether

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Speaker 1: it's two interviews, three interviews, whatever that process is, it's

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Speaker 1: got to be intense, and I think it certainly was.

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Speaker 1: And then the other thing, it kind of has a sidebar,

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Speaker 1: and I did learn this from Belichick and Saban, is

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Speaker 1: when you have an opening, bring in a bunch of guys,

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Speaker 1: because even though you're gonna vet them and you're going

461
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Speaker 1: to give them an opportunity, if nothing else, you're gonna

462
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Speaker 1: be it's a fact finding mission. You're gonna find out

463
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Speaker 1: so many things you want to learn. You're gonna learn

464
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Speaker 1: so much about the league, about concepts, about how people operate.

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Speaker 1: For instance, Wink Martindale, Okay, Wink Martindale is state of

466
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Speaker 1: the art defensive concept right now, and it's one percent

467
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Speaker 1: different than Gus Bradleys. So when you have him here,

468
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Speaker 1: when he's here, all of a sudden, you are now

469
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Speaker 1: dealing and you're learning, how can we incorporate this? Why

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Speaker 1: do you do these things, and so what you're doing

471
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Speaker 1: is you're incorporating and you're stealing, you're picking that brain.

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Speaker 1: Al Davis was the king of that along the way.

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Speaker 1: So as I said, just as for starters, and I

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Speaker 1: like kind of the staff he's put together, I'll qualify it.

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Speaker 1: I want to see one thing, but I would say

476
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Speaker 1: that very importantly. You know, basically we did address We

477
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Speaker 1: hit those two things, and I think we get We

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Speaker 1: ended up with the best possible outcome for two thousand

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Speaker 1: and twenty three. Rick, When you look at Shane Stykin's

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Speaker 1: past and him coaching Philip Rivers, you know at the

481
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Speaker 1: age he started coaching him at the age of thirty five,

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Speaker 1: and you know, Philip is very much a pocket passer

483
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Speaker 1: than Justin Herbert as a rookie in twenty twenty, guy

484
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Speaker 1: who's got a little bit of mob mobility obviously a

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Speaker 1: cannon arm. And then Jalen hurt Wo is an incredibly

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Speaker 1: mobile quarterback who developed into a really good passer in

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Speaker 1: two and twenty two. When you think about those guys

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Speaker 1: and you think about Shane's experience with them, what do

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Speaker 1: you think the ideal quarterback looks like for Shane Steiken well,

490
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Speaker 1: I think, first of all, j J. I think because

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Speaker 1: of the diversity, And that was the closing argument from me.

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Speaker 1: The closing argument was the diversity, the ability to have

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Speaker 1: an offense designed for a standard NFL drop back guy,

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Speaker 1: and then in between and then all the way to

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Speaker 1: a merging of an NFL to NCA quarterback like Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 1: This as you said, all three of those guys are

497
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Speaker 1: totally different, and he's experienced all three of them. So

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Speaker 1: I don't know that you have to define People are

499
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Speaker 1: defining him and what we need because of Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's important. What I like is I

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Speaker 1: believe that he will be adaptable to any one of

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Speaker 1: the four that you take. And I can I can

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Speaker 1: expound on the four. I spent tons of hours on

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Speaker 1: that position already. But if you know, no matter which

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Speaker 1: of those guys you get, to me, he's really adaptable. Now,

506
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Speaker 1: this is Rick Van Terry, not speaking for anybody else.

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Speaker 1: I feel it's vital to get to number one. I

508
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Speaker 1: really do, because I don't want to settle for three

509
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Speaker 1: or four. People say, well, they're all talented, but they're

510
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Speaker 1: not all the same. You've got to rank them, and

511
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Speaker 1: there's there's differences in all of them, okay, and I'll

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Speaker 1: be happy to discuss what I think about that. But

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Speaker 1: I think in the end you know what you want,

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Speaker 1: and if you want to look at the polls of

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Speaker 1: the four, I will say this is that basically, in

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Speaker 1: Bryce Young, you really have a little Mahomes. You have

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Speaker 1: a guy who really, despite all his athleticism, he is

518
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Speaker 1: really a dropback passer whose greatest attribute is he's a

519
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Speaker 1: playmaker in an improv guy. And then on the other poll,

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Speaker 1: if you want to Jalen Hurts, it's the kid out

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Speaker 1: of Florida. There's no question. For Richardson, there's no question

522
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Speaker 1: about it. He's a guy that runs a four or

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Speaker 1: five and strong like Hurts, he can do those things. Now,

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Speaker 1: there's different variations, but I mean so, but I think

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Speaker 1: with Steiken, as opposed to some other people, I think

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Speaker 1: you have the flexibility to go anywhere you want. Stylistically.

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Speaker 1: I don't think talent was but stylistically, so again, that

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Speaker 1: was the closing argument for me, because if I take

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Speaker 1: by Bryce Young, I'm gonna treat it handled a lot

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Speaker 1: different than I treat A Richardson. With the other two

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Speaker 1: guys in between. Yeah, I get it right there. That's

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Speaker 1: Rick Venturi staying with that. Rick, I'm totally with you.

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Speaker 1: I understand what you're talking about in terms of, Hey,

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Speaker 1: if you're this high up in the draft, if you're

535
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Speaker 1: picking in the lottery, so to speak, go all the way,

536
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Speaker 1: get the guy that you want, Get the guy that

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Speaker 1: that best fits you know what you're trying to set

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Speaker 1: up in terms of franchise, you know, foundational stability. But

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Speaker 1: with that said, Rick, I mean, do you just go

540
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Speaker 1: all the way? We would? You just write the check,

541
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Speaker 1: whatever it costs, don't worry about it. Just get the guy.

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Speaker 1: Because Bryce Young, in your opinion, is that good head

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Speaker 1: and shoulders better than two, three and four? Is that

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Speaker 1: how you look at it? Well? You know that's now

545
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Speaker 1: that's a hypothetical. That's a very hard for me to answer.

546
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Speaker 1: Am I willing to make a tremendous investment. The answer

547
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Speaker 1: is yes. And I don't think you have to be

548
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Speaker 1: like me. You know, definitely, I think that Bryce Young

549
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 1: is clearly the guy I want. He's the playmaker. He

550
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Speaker 1: goes beyond the playbook and I can't make him bigger,

551
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 1: but he is special. He'll never be Mahomes. Because Mahomes

552
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Speaker 1: is six foot five, but he has those traits, he

553
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 1: can make plays out of the playbook. I separate him

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Speaker 1: from the other guys. And then, to me, it's a

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Speaker 1: much tougher decision than the pundits and the media are

556
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: talking about it. Between two three and four. The media

557
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: has Stroud clearly number two. To me, and I sat

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Speaker 1: with John grud who who forgot more about quarterback play

559
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Speaker 1: than anybody in football today, and we spent a whole

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Speaker 1: day on it. You know, I'll get into that, But

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Speaker 1: in terms of answering your specific question, I guess they're

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Speaker 1: all always would be a limit. I mean, I guess

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Speaker 1: there always will be a limited. But here's my thought.

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Speaker 1: My thought is this, we are not gonna be in

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Speaker 1: the lottery, hopefully for two more decades. We've only been

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Speaker 1: in the lottery three times, you know, since ninety nine.

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Speaker 1: Three times. We hit big with Manning, no question about it,

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Speaker 1: pretty much a slam dunk. Although if I take you

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Speaker 1: back to ninety nine, there was a school of thought

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Speaker 1: that Leaf was a better who was a better athlete, okay,

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Speaker 1: but there was no question that Manning was generational. We

572
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Speaker 1: got very lucky with our second lottery pick in that

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Speaker 1: we ended up with the number one pick. But we

574
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Speaker 1: weren't a bad franchise. We just had a bad year.

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Speaker 1: You talk about pure luck to get luck. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't like this was a bad franchise. This is

577
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Speaker 1: a franchise. Peyton got hurt and they go two and whatever,

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Speaker 1: two and fourteen, and they're sitting there. Here's Luck. There's

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Speaker 1: another generational player, you know, and if he doesn't, if

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Speaker 1: he doesn't bail in eighteen, I mean, you know, we

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Speaker 1: probably have twenty five years of league quarterbacking. So to me,

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Speaker 1: this is the third time that we're in that situation.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm not saying that any of these four

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Speaker 1: guys as those two guys. Okay, I'd like to I'd

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Speaker 1: like to say Andrew Luck is out there. I'm not

586
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: he isn't, okay, But here's my point. My point is

587
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Speaker 1: we're never going to be there again. So get me

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Speaker 1: the best, the guy that I want. If the Coats

589
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Speaker 1: wants somebody else, I don't care. Get there and don't

590
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Speaker 1: settle for three and four because there are differences. And

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Speaker 1: here's the other point I have, Matt. If we don't

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Speaker 1: get to one somebody else is going to get to one.

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Speaker 1: Somebody else that needs a quarterback, We'll get to one

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Speaker 1: in Houston's at two. So you're you're already looking at

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Speaker 1: three to four, and by some quirk, as somebody comes

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Speaker 1: to three, you could be looking at four. You got

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So you know, to me, this is

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Speaker 1: the only time, hopefully for decades, that you're going to

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Speaker 1: be looking at this opportunity again. And I want lightning

600
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Speaker 1: to strike three times. So Rick, when when you think

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Speaker 1: about where the Colts are right now? And I think

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Speaker 1: you your point about the Luck year was interesting that

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Speaker 1: it was not a bad franchise. It was a bad

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Speaker 1: year that got us Andrew Luck here in Indianapolis. Yes,

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Speaker 1: where is this roster going into two thousand and twenty

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00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: three outside of the quarterback position? Do you see a

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Speaker 1: roster that if you drop a young quarterback who can

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Speaker 1: succeed and you can win with into this roster that

609
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Speaker 1: the Colts are not as far away as their four

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Speaker 1: twelve and one record in two thousand and twenty two,

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Speaker 1: and indicate yeah, that's that's the sixty four thousand dollars question.

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Speaker 1: I think JJ that it's a solid roster Okay, I

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Speaker 1: don't think this team is as bad as the four,

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Speaker 1: twelve and one that I'm going to tell you right away.

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Speaker 1: I don't, I do. I don't believe that for a second.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a solid NFL roster. It is not

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Speaker 1: a roster that is just a quarterback away, you know,

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Speaker 1: from a run at the super Bowl. In my opinion,

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Speaker 1: and here's why I say this, I think that we've

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Speaker 1: done a really good job. I think Ballard is a

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Speaker 1: master of Day two, Day three undrafted free agents. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think we've done a really good job. And so

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Speaker 1: we have a roster that from ten to fifty three,

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Speaker 1: you know, is certainly competitive and is as good, if

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Speaker 1: not better than everyone else. Now, on the flip side

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Speaker 1: of that, I don't think number of thirty six or

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Speaker 1: twenty nine or forty four on your roster is much

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Speaker 1: different than my roster. Okay, I think that's so overrated

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Speaker 1: in terms of overall roster because in effect, the salary

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Speaker 1: cap creates equality. After you get through your top fifteen percent,

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Speaker 1: it's all equality. It's younger, it's different, and that's why

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Speaker 1: you might be marginally better at thirty six than I am,

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Speaker 1: because you ain't gonna be a much better, not much difference.

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Speaker 1: The difference is and this is where I think we

635
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: need a lot of work. Is that. And I believe

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Speaker 1: this totally after about fifty years of well certainly forty

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Speaker 1: some years of NFL coverage and being in the middle

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Speaker 1: of war rooms, I just honestly believe that the difference

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Speaker 1: in football teams, and I'll take the top three to

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Speaker 1: start with, is the value of your top ten guys,

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Speaker 1: the top ten guys on the roster determined winning and

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Speaker 1: losing it. Of course, one of those ten has to

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Speaker 1: be the quarterback, has to be the quarterback. But we

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Speaker 1: lack the woud players in that top ten. You can

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Speaker 1: you can look at all these games and even if

646
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Speaker 1: we play well, there aren't many what I call wold plays,

647
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Speaker 1: I mean, who makes would plays. There's no Boasts, there's

648
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: no Riddick, you know, there's no Graham, there's no Aaron Donald.

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Speaker 1: And on offense, there's no Joey you know, there's no Herbs,

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Speaker 1: obviously no Mahomes I mean, and then you look some

651
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: other positions. There's no Kelsey, you know, if you look

652
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Speaker 1: at there's no A. J. Brown, there's no Smith. Then

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Speaker 1: you go to Cincinnati, who to me is my third team.

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Speaker 1: You know, you know you've got Chase, You've got Higgins.

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Speaker 1: We don't have those guys, to be honest with you,

656
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Speaker 1: and that's the separation. So we're gonna have to do

657
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Speaker 1: a hell of a job of supplementing the roster. We

658
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Speaker 1: will be a hell of a lot better. Maybe not

659
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Speaker 1: on the first day, but if we get a franchise

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Speaker 1: playmaking quarterback, that will be a giant step forward. But

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Speaker 1: I can't say I'm not of the ilk that this

662
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Speaker 1: roster is really ready to go, that all they need

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Speaker 1: is a quarterback. I really don't believe that. But obviously,

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Speaker 1: if you don't start there, Jay, the rest of it

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00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: doesn't matter either. You can you can look at the

666
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Speaker 1: Niners there in the playoffs of the top four. I

667
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Speaker 1: mean in the end, I know the guy got hurt,

668
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Speaker 1: but you want to go to take you nowhere? Okay.

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Speaker 1: So I mean this is just how I feel an

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Speaker 1: answer of that question. That's Rick Venturi. This is the

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Speaker 1: affect So Colts podcast with Rick breaking down his thoughts

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Speaker 1: on the Shane Styke and Higher and the Colts roster

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Speaker 1: going into the two thousand and twenty three offseason. We're

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Speaker 1: presented by win Bet doubling back to Shane Stike and Rick.

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Speaker 1: Outside of that higher, what is the next and most

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Speaker 1: important higher for the Colts on the coaching staff. There's

677
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Speaker 1: reports today or yesterday into today that Jim Bob Cooter

678
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Speaker 1: is going to be the offensive coordinator for the Colts

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Speaker 1: outside of maybe those two guys, Rick, what is the

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Speaker 1: next most important rung in the ladder in the coaching

681
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Speaker 1: um completion of this staff going forward? Yeah, yeah, that's

682
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Speaker 1: that's really critical, um. And I hope it is Jim

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Speaker 1: Bob Cooter. I you know, I hope that that that

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Speaker 1: rumor or that leak whatever is accurate, because you know,

685
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Speaker 1: I think beyond your head coach, then the next two

686
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Speaker 1: most vital howers higher are the offensive and defensive coordinators.

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Speaker 1: And in this case it's it's more of a clerical

688
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 1: position because you're not going to be the play caller,

689
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Speaker 1: but he's vital in other ways, just like Sirianni was

690
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Speaker 1: too Frank. And then I think beyond that obviously the

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Speaker 1: quarterback coach, depending on how that is there. But the

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Speaker 1: two most vital positions for position coaches the two hardest

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Speaker 1: to find, The two most significant guys on your staff

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Speaker 1: are your offensive line coach and your defensive backfield coach.

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Speaker 1: Because if you really just look at numbers, okay, those

696
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Speaker 1: guys have units of five. I mean, the secondary now

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Speaker 1: is five guys. The offensive line is five guys. So

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Speaker 1: in a sense, the coordination of that position and the technicalities,

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Speaker 1: the technical aspects of it and over coordination is very

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Speaker 1: much like coaching a basketball team within a football team,

701
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Speaker 1: and those things are really vital. So I'm a little nervous.

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Speaker 1: It isn't I'm not overly concerned yet, but it does

703
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Speaker 1: bother me that there wasn't an offensive line coach on

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Speaker 1: the tip of his tongue and we don't have that

705
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Speaker 1: because to me, in Stiken's case, the most significant hire

706
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Speaker 1: for him is the offensive line coach, even more than

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Speaker 1: the coordinator. Now, if they're forced to go young, which

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Speaker 1: I don't like at all, but you might be forced

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Speaker 1: if you don't have a ready made guy. If you

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Speaker 1: end up going young as an offensive line coach, then

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Speaker 1: you better have a coordinator who is very experienced primarily

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Speaker 1: in protection matchups on Sunday, primarily on blitz control, blitz coordination,

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Speaker 1: and with the emergence of the bear defense. He's really

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Speaker 1: got to have an understanding because that's where your line

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Speaker 1: coach is so critical, and that's where the experience, the

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Speaker 1: Howard mugs and guys like that make a humongous difference

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Speaker 1: to you. So if they go young, I certainly hope

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Speaker 1: that you do hire a guy like Jim Bob Cooter,

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Speaker 1: and I like DeAndre Smith because he's a veteran running

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Speaker 1: back coach who understands protection with the Giants. He comes

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Speaker 1: out of that system, which is state of the art

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Speaker 1: under Dabele was state of the art at Buffalo. Now

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Speaker 1: it's states of the art at New York. And obviously

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Speaker 1: he brings a lot to the table. With him and

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Speaker 1: obviously Jim Bob Cooter, it would be really good. And

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Speaker 1: again I hope, somehow, some way we come up with

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Speaker 1: a premier offensive line coach, because with stike In being

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Speaker 1: a perimeter guy all his life, that's vital. Rick a

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Speaker 1: couple of I have so many questions I consider and

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Speaker 1: talk to you for hours, But when you look at

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Speaker 1: stike In as a play caller, something that stands out

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Speaker 1: to me is that the Eagles did a lot of

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Speaker 1: window dressing to essentially change the pre snap look of

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Speaker 1: the same concepts, like they would run the same play,

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Speaker 1: but they would dress it up differently. And it's not

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Speaker 1: like the Eagles offense seemed incredibly complex, but they made

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Speaker 1: it look like that. As a d defensive coordinator and

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Speaker 1: as someone who's scheming up a defense, what challenges does

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Speaker 1: an offense that is relatively straightforward with their concepts but looks,

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Speaker 1: you know, completely incredibly complex before the snap. What challenges

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Speaker 1: does that present? And what challenge challenges do you see

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Speaker 1: Shane steke In presenting defensive coordinators with his offense. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know a lot of people are into that. I

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Speaker 1: have never been troubled that much, and don't dressing I don't.

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Speaker 1: I've never considered that, you know, like like I'm going

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Speaker 1: to stay up all night because they run this from

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Speaker 1: that formation or that formation. Don't get me wrong, I

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00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: think as an offensive guy, you want to mask things

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Speaker 1: so that you don't look exactly the same six weeks

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Speaker 1: in a row, you know, to run the same place.

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Speaker 1: Here's where I think their mastery is and here's where

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Speaker 1: I think their greatness is. To me, the biggest problem

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Speaker 1: in defensive football is the ability to run it and

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Speaker 1: pass it from the same look so that you have

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Speaker 1: run past conflicts all the way. Now they not only

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Speaker 1: have that, but what they've added to it, and this

757
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Speaker 1: is just brilliance in utilizing your personnel, is by bringing

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Speaker 1: Hurts along as they have both the development and the usage.

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Speaker 1: That is what is difficult in defending Philadelphia and hopefully

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Speaker 1: the Colts at some point because what they have successfully done,

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Speaker 1: which I really even Baltimore to me hasn't done it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: they have really been able to utilize Hurts as an

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Speaker 1: NFL passer. He isn't the best yet, but he has

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Speaker 1: come a mile and he can operate pretty well in

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Speaker 1: the pocket. Not quite as good as Mahomes, not as

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Speaker 1: good as Joey Burrow, but he can operate in the pocket.

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Speaker 1: But what they've done is of equal value is they've

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Speaker 1: brought the NCAA game into it with the zone reads,

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Speaker 1: quarterback designers. I mean against us and I think we

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Speaker 1: were absolutely stupid. But on a third and seven he

771
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Speaker 1: runs a quarterback draw that he had. The only thing

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Speaker 1: would have stopped him was a gas station in Noblesville.

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Speaker 1: I mean he could have run that far and all

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Speaker 1: those type of things, the quarterback sweeps, quarterback counters, quarterback traps,

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Speaker 1: and they do them when the pressure's on, when they're

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Speaker 1: inside you're thirty and so to me, what makes them

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Speaker 1: so good and it may not be the same here

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Speaker 1: because you may have a different kind of quarterback. That's

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Speaker 1: why you've got to have a guy that is versatile

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Speaker 1: in his thinking, that is smart, that can adapt primarily

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Speaker 1: to that quarterback. But again, what made Philadelphia difficult is

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Speaker 1: basically they were able to run a legitimate NFL offense,

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Speaker 1: but they were able to combine it with the NCAA

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Speaker 1: principles and quarterback designers and that's almost like playing with

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Speaker 1: twelve men. Rick, I want to go to the defensive

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Speaker 1: side of the ball for the Colts. We're still waiting

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Speaker 1: on word if if Gus Bradley and his staff will

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Speaker 1: be retained with Shane steik In taking over as the

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Speaker 1: head coach. You know, on that side of the ball.

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Speaker 1: This past year, they started off well and then trended

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Speaker 1: negatively towards the end of the season, you know, thirty

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Speaker 1: first and completion percentage last and red zone efficiency and

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Speaker 1: had a hard time getting off the field and holding

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Speaker 1: teams down the fourth quarter. Fourth quarter scoring was down

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Speaker 1: towards the end of the season. What are your thoughts

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Speaker 1: on the defensive growth that needs to occur this offseason

797
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Speaker 1: going into next year. If if Gus Bradley and that

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Speaker 1: staff comes back, yeah, I think in some ways, and

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Speaker 1: trust me, from the beginning, I will say that I

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Speaker 1: really like Gus Bradley. I expect him to be back.

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Speaker 1: There's a familiarity, you know, obviously, those guys Ronnie him

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Speaker 1: that you know, all of them have worked together, Summittee, linebacker, coach,

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00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 1: they bought, they all worked together at San Diego, so

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Speaker 1: there's a real familiarity. I would be shocked and it

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00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: would really be a message if he wasn't retained. To

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Speaker 1: be honest with you, and please, whatever you do, don't

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Speaker 1: let Bubba out the door. That's the superstar on the staff.

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Speaker 1: Don't let him out the door. But here's here's what

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Speaker 1: I say. I think that in twenty one the defense

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Speaker 1: really and I think if we don't look at it

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Speaker 1: this way, we're going to make mistakes and we're not

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Speaker 1: going to get better. I think the defense got a

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Speaker 1: real pass in twenty one because of the putrid nature

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Speaker 1: of the offense, and relatively at times the defense was better.

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Speaker 1: As you said, Matt, particularly early in the season. But

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Speaker 1: in the end, in the end, there were seven Boggains.

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Speaker 1: Just just add that to your resume when all you

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Speaker 1: had minimum seven. All you had to do was have

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Speaker 1: one stop in the fourth quarter to win the game one.

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Speaker 1: And I don't want to buy I don't want to

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Speaker 1: I don't want to buy into this. You know, you

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Speaker 1: know they're out there too long that if you look

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Speaker 1: at the end of the year, the time of possession

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Speaker 1: is almost fifty fifty exactly the same. So you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to hear that. At the

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Speaker 1: end of the day. You know, this was a defense

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Speaker 1: that was twenty eighth in points given up, thirty second

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Speaker 1: in the red zone. And here are the statistics that

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Speaker 1: normal people don't look at, but I look at because

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Speaker 1: I know that they determine. With the exception of the

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Speaker 1: Greatest Show on Turf, Rams and the Chiefs, these are

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Speaker 1: statistics that matter opponents. You know, basically past percentage against

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Speaker 1: US thirty one thirty first quarterback raiding thirtieth ninety six

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Speaker 1: quarterback rating against US. And then the two worst statistics, Okay,

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Speaker 1: the two worst statistics is fourth quarter defense number thirty

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Speaker 1: one in the league and basically our turnover ratio to

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Speaker 1: an over ratio. Our takeaways alone, we went from second

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Speaker 1: in the league to twentieth. So if you don't think

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of work to do, you do. And

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Speaker 1: I think that a lot of it is schematic. You know,

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Speaker 1: I don't think our defensive talent is that bad. But

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Speaker 1: I think here's if you if you want what I

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Speaker 1: think our answers, anybody can give you problems and stats.

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Speaker 1: I think one, we need so much more diversity, both

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Speaker 1: in front and coverage. We play over like ninety five

846
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Speaker 1: percent of the time. We didn't never get into bear

847
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Speaker 1: like everybody else. And basically by the fourth quarter, everybody

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Speaker 1: has the rhythm of where you are. I don't think

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Speaker 1: we've had good rush plans, and I don't mean necessarily

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Speaker 1: blitz plans. I'm talking about rush pro. You have to

851
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Speaker 1: rush every quarterback differently. You don't. You don't rush, you know,

852
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: a standard statue drop back like you do a jail

853
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 1: and hurts. I mean, I've never seen that clear rush

854
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: plan per week. I think our blitz percentage is way

855
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: too low. It's around fourteen percent. Senate's one of the bottom.

856
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: And this is this you know you gotta affect the quarterback,

857
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: he really do. You got to affect him, and it

858
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: helps the secondary sometimes if you get that kind of pressure.

859
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: And then the other thing is, I don't just see

860
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: and you hear me every Saturday, every Sunday and we

861
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: talk about it the podcast. I don't see creative game

862
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: plans that you know, we're basically pretty much same every week.

863
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: I don't see the creative game plans that where you

864
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: you definitely take away something you take away. Bill Belichick

865
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: used to say to us, I'm not going to get

866
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 1: beat by the guy that I know before the game

867
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 1: can beat me. Just's not gonna let it happen. And

868
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: so I think all those things have to be addressed,

869
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,399
Speaker 1: they have to be evolving, and to me, it would

870
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: be a mandate to be honest with you. And do

871
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 1: I think Gus can do that? Yeah? I do. I

872
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: think he's a bright guy. I think he has a flexibility.

873
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: I do believe he brings a kind of a mountain

874
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: man charisma. He does bring a system. I think he

875
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: has good assistance around and really good and so you know,

876
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: I think there's reason to believe that he can get there.

877
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 1: But if we allow that system to stay unchanged. Then

878
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: no matter how much better we get on offense, we're

879
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: not going to stride that much on defense. That's Rick

880
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:17,240
Speaker 1: Venturi breaking down the off season for the Indianapolis Colts

881
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: here on the official Colts podcast. Is JJ said, Rick,

882
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: we could talk to you for for two to three

883
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: hours at a time and all things Colts, and we

884
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 1: didn't even get into free agency. We want to talk

885
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 1: about guys like you know, Unique and Gockway and Bobby

886
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,959
Speaker 1: Okerk and Paris Campbell. So maybe you keep your phone

887
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 1: on in a couple of weeks and we'll talk about

888
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: that as we head into mid March. But um, for you,

889
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 1: you're we are talking to you on the cell phone today,

890
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: coming to you for you're coming to us, i should say,

891
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: from the beach right there on the shores. So what

892
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: is a typical day like for Rick Venturi down to

893
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 1: Florida and the off seasons? Jealous? Yeah, in mid February,

894
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 1: make us more miserable than we already are. Okay, okay,

895
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,879
Speaker 1: well I will make you miserable on this one. I'm

896
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: watching the way I'm watching the tide rolling here right

897
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 1: in front of me from the Gulf of Mexico and

898
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: obviously it's been good. My normal day is not too

899
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: much different than it is at home, except for the weather.

900
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: I you know, me, I have the hours of a farmer.

901
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: I say that with respect to the farmers. I'm up

902
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: around four. I put in about four hours before Miss

903
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 1: Sherry you know, gets up and it gets going. And

904
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 1: three of my hours of the four are spent, you know,

905
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: on football, like during the season being it's all preparation

906
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: work for our podcast, for our games. It's all tape

907
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: viewing and stuff like that. And at this time of year,

908
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: I'm really beginning. I'm really pounding the draft. I'm watching tape,

909
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: you know, I'm making note, I'm making evaluations. I spent

910
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: I did spend a whole day with John last week

911
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: over at Gooden m Enterprises. So you know, my focus

912
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: now is really draft. So when when when I come

913
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: back and we do it in a before we do

914
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 1: the draft shows and I'm going to know what I'm

915
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: talking about. And then the fourth the third at the

916
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 1: fourth hour, I spent on fun. I'm a NBA box

917
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,919
Speaker 1: scores Baseball starting up to raise it had their first

918
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: practice yesterday, UM and then the local the local actually

919
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: the Saturday, the big race of the week horse racing.

920
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: You may notice I think you know what Matt Sherry.

921
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: Miss Sherry and I share one thing sports wise. We

922
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: love the horses, um and so I spend that last

923
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:35,240
Speaker 1: hour just and I approach it like I do basically coaching.

924
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: It's I use a dictating here. It's it's the process.

925
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 1: I like. Miss Sherry goes to the race, she's got

926
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 1: to see him warm up. She gotta take a look

927
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: at him. She will peek at the jockey, but she

928
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: looks at that profile me. I mean, I've looked at

929
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 1: pedigree buyer rating. I mean, I she wasn't as much

930
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 1: as I do. Let's but I mean it's the process

931
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: that I love it. I gotta tell you I have

932
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: won three major race, you know. And I won the

933
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 1: Samuel F. M Samuel F. Jackson, which is a big

934
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: prep race for the Derby UM in here with Louis

935
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: Sayas and Tampa. And then last week I went on

936
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: the Risen Star out of New Orleans and say Has

937
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 1: won again. Damn that was huge. That was thirteen to one.

938
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: And then on the on the Philly Race two weeks

939
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: ago here in Tampa, another Derby prep, I hit a

940
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 1: thirty eight to one, So I am. I have never

941
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: been on that kind of road. Usually I'm paying for

942
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: the new addition to Who's Your Part, I'll tell you

943
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: what when you come back on Who's Your Soil in April.

944
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 1: You're buying all right? Oh no, no, listen, can we

945
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 1: all agree to that. You're buying a lot of money.

946
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what. That is really my relaxation.

947
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: And then the rest of the day, it's a lot

948
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 1: of sun. Uh. You know, I have my scooter here,

949
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: I'm up and down the beats, up and down the shore. Yeah. Uh.

950
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: You know, Miss Sharon I will do a lot of

951
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: things together. Usually we go out to her at night.

952
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: I don't want her cooking while we're down here. So

953
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: now we we really have a blast. And you know

954
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 1: as well as I do. I'm right on the beach literally,

955
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: and you know we've been here for well since nineteen

956
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 1: seventy seven in one shape or form or another. So

957
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: it's it's really home. I mean, this is just it's

958
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:21,800
Speaker 1: like Indianapolis. It's it's home. You know, it's Indianapolis's home campus,

959
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 1: Saint Peter's home. It sounds like a damn honeymoon. Yeah, well,

960
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 1: I guess in some way. Yeah, now that wait a minute,

961
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: now we're talking about nineteen sixty seven. What's that I mean?

962
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:37,800
Speaker 1: I don't know how she put up with that craft

963
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: for fifty six, but she has a lot of kickoffs.

964
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 1: She seemed a lot of king no doubt. Yeah, she

965
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 1: should be getting a metal or something. But you guys

966
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: definitely have your processes and you make it work. So

967
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: I'll love it. I love the respect there. Rick. Always

968
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: enjoy our chats, you know, in season, out of season,

969
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: you know, talking ball, talking music. I always appreciate you.

970
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: And again, like I said, keep that phone on heading

971
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,359
Speaker 1: into free agency, and we'll do it again soon if

972
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: you don't mind. All right, very good, guys, I'll talk

973
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 1: to at you have a going all right? Rick van

974
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 1: Terry right there his breakdown of the Colts to this

975
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:11,399
Speaker 1: point in the off season. Plenty more from Rick as

976
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: we get closer and closer to training camp twenty twenty three.

977
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 1: All right, let's finish out the podcast today. Lara's back, Lara.

978
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: Let's get random, your random thought of the week here.

979
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: What are you not sure if any of you guys

980
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 1: this over the course of the weekend watched any of

981
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 1: the NBA All Star Game, festivities, Dunk Contest, the All

982
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: Star Game itself. They obviously have incorporated a little bit

983
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: new format and some different elements to the All Star weekend.

984
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: And of course, one year from now, Indianapolis will play

985
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 1: host right to the NBA All Star Game. So with

986
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: that upcoming and the Combine upcoming, I kind of thought,

987
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:50,720
Speaker 1: if you could take the current events of the NFL combine,

988
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,879
Speaker 1: the traditional forty yard dash, the bench press, broad jump,

989
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 1: vertical jump, all those different calibers, sorry if you could

990
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: take some of those, but if you could incorporate one

991
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 1: really random event into the combine purely for entertainment purposes,

992
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 1: Because the NBA All Star Game has been revamped for

993
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:11,240
Speaker 1: entertainment purposes, much like the Pro Bowl was for the NFL,

994
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: what would you incorporate into the combine touchdown celebrations. Oh,

995
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: that's an awesome way show off your personality, give me,

996
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: give me your best touchdown celebration you can bring your

997
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: bodies would be awesome because like d Lineman, don't get

998
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 1: to do that. So if they get one shot, you know,

999
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: like you know you got the six sixes, Like as

1000
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: a rookie, if are you locked into that if you

1001
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: if you bust that out of the combined, do you

1002
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 1: have to go that route the entire no rookie season.

1003
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: It's just it's like, all right, hey, you get to

1004
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,320
Speaker 1: do a touchdown celebration, show us what you're gonna do.

1005
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 1: I like it. I like that. I like a lot.

1006
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:50,879
Speaker 1: Mine was thinking of to test different reaction time. I'm

1007
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 1: not sure if you guys have seen like indiecar drivers,

1008
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,320
Speaker 1: do they have like a simulator thing where they have

1009
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 1: to things light up and they have to respond and

1010
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 1: touch these different lights. I thought of something similar a

1011
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: whack a mole I want to bring in I'm going

1012
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: full arcade style, and you know, I want to see

1013
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks playing some whack a mole out there. There

1014
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,800
Speaker 1: you go, Yeah that was don't actually have like somewhat

1015
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:19,280
Speaker 1: of a value thought? Yeah, yeah, hand eye coordination, reaction

1016
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 1: time well, and then it's also something you inevitably have

1017
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 1: the guys sitting back watching the combine. I mean, guys

1018
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: in gals, whoever it is. You don't kick it back

1019
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,359
Speaker 1: like I could. I could bench press two twenty five

1020
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: more than that. It's that equitable, like, okay, you really

1021
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 1: think you could do this, let's see how good you

1022
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 1: guys are in the Whack a Mole. Head on over

1023
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: to David Busters. Over to David Busters, and you could

1024
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 1: compare your statistics too, you know whoever, I like that.

1025
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 1: I don't know. Like what's popping into my head right

1026
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 1: now is like on the field, you have different clothing stations,

1027
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 1: right you got a suit station or a jacket station,

1028
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 1: or you have a nice dress sock station, and guys

1029
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 1: basically have to put on the fly and ensemble together,

1030
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:06,879
Speaker 1: and you have a best dress category. This is really

1031
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 1: is that all matters? Right? It all matters for trying

1032
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: to make a good impression in the meetings and the

1033
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,280
Speaker 1: interviews and how you're going to represent yourself on the stage.

1034
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:16,399
Speaker 1: If you decided to go that route on draft night,

1035
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 1: so I don't know, okay, but so together if you

1036
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 1: did that, would the o lineman just go the opposite

1037
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: direction and try to win like worst dressed? Like here

1038
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: comes just some guy in like a T shirt and

1039
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: Jason Kelsey showing up at the Super Bowl in his

1040
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: just New Heights football shirt Cleveland Heights, Like, oh, lineman,

1041
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,800
Speaker 1: I think like as a rule, are just like you know,

1042
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 1: he's wearing the new Balance Dad shoes or like the

1043
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,919
Speaker 1: Nike Air Monarchs or something. Yeah, just like you know whatever,

1044
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 1: we're just kind of here. Although I do say Bernard

1045
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 1: Ryman great suits this season, but you would expect that

1046
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 1: from a guy who's from Europe, Like he wears like

1047
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 1: very well tailored European suits. Ryan Kelly does too. Ryan

1048
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: Kelly does too. Yeah, but I feel like, oh, Lineman,

1049
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: just as a rule, are just sort of like show

1050
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: up in whatever because you're here to work. So like

1051
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 1: if you had an alignment show up in like a

1052
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,319
Speaker 1: real flashy outfit, you'd kind of be like, I don't

1053
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 1: know if we want to draft this guy's pretty funny

1054
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: or perhaps an eating contest. I don't know if we

1055
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 1: want to go that round. After the workouts are over, obviously,

1056
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 1: have just have guys just house some cheeseburgers, like in celebration,

1057
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 1: like the pressure is off, you know, your week is

1058
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 1: over all, the interviews are done in celebration. Here's here's

1059
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 1: twelve Big Max. What would what would be what would

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Speaker 1: be the the food of choice, like the Indianapolis local

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Speaker 1: food of choice, And we can't say shrimp cocktail because

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Speaker 1: oh you could do like heroes sandwiches or some Workingman's

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Speaker 1: Friend Burgers or like some hermanokis from almpor there it is, yeah,

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Speaker 1: wing wing eating contests from ALP. Just bring in sixteen

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Speaker 1: different restaurants with their wings of choice, whatever they want

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Speaker 1: to bring in. The guys celebrate, you know, a Wellos pizza.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, week of pressure right there, Yeah, curly,

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Speaker 1: it's almost lunch ye the food is on the brain

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Speaker 1: there for Lara Overton, Lara. The combine is next week.

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Speaker 1: From a video standpoint, what do we got going on?

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Speaker 1: Next week? Going to be captured a lot of different things. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: we'll have head coach Shane Steiken available of course, and

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Speaker 1: general manager Chris Ballard's will be covering their availabilities and

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Speaker 1: all of that, and then hopefully looking forward to catching

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Speaker 1: up with some of the different NFL personalities that are

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Speaker 1: around for the week as well. Had an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: do that last year. So looking forward to seeing all

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Speaker 1: Radio Row, seeing all those people again on Radio Row,

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Speaker 1: and we have a really fun event. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you guys know Courtney Cronin who works for ESPN.

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Speaker 1: She covers the Bears. She does a lot of different

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Speaker 1: things at ESPN. She's a really nice job of organizing

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Speaker 1: a happy hour event that is for all of the

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Speaker 1: different women across football, and not that that's necessarily content piece,

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Speaker 1: but it is a really fun opportunity to connect with

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Speaker 1: so many different people across the league, from coaches to

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Speaker 1: media people to agent everything. So to watch that event,

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Speaker 1: how much it's grown, has been really fun. So looking

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Speaker 1: forward to connecting with a lot of different people who

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Speaker 1: come into Indie and have a lot of great work

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Speaker 1: to do over the course of the next week. There

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Speaker 1: you go JJ dot com next week at the Combine. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of the same, you know, Chris

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Speaker 1: Ballard talking you know, the news off of his press conference,

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Speaker 1: same with Shane Steiken and then filing notebooks every day

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Speaker 1: from from the convention center. So you know, we'll have

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Speaker 1: some stuff on the quarterbacks when they talk to the media.

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Speaker 1: We'll have some other stuff, some other interesting little angles

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm thinking about. I don't want to don't want

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Speaker 1: the same here, don't want anyone to scoop me on.

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Speaker 1: Scoop a loop baby. Yeah. Also, if you have some

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Speaker 1: time today and you haven't read the story I wrote

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Speaker 1: Oncolts dot com, I talked with Austin Collie and Chris Jones.

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Speaker 1: Those are two very important people in Shane Steken's life.

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Speaker 1: They're his high school teammate, Austin Collie was his high

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Speaker 1: school wide receiver and Chris Jones's high school coach. Just

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Speaker 1: about the background that Shane Stikeen has his obsession with

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Speaker 1: football from a young age. I mean, Austin said that

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Speaker 1: they would go out countless times to this field on

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Speaker 1: Friday Saturday nights. They wouldn't go to parties, they weren't

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Speaker 1: much partiers and they would just go throw routes. They

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Speaker 1: would just work on their route tree under the lights

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Speaker 1: at the high school stadium where their high school coach,

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Speaker 1: Chris Jones, gave him the keys and said, hey, you

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Speaker 1: can turn the lights on him. Just don't go messing around.

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Speaker 1: And it was a really interesting, really interesting story. Glad,

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Speaker 1: Austin and Chris shared it with me, and that's up

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Speaker 1: on Colts dot com, so you can go you can

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Speaker 1: go read that now. Yeah. Absolutely, And as Laras said,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna be on Radio Row next week, so hopefully

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Speaker 1: chat with a lot of movers and shakers and draft

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Speaker 1: analysts and insiders around the NFL next week when we're

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Speaker 1: at the Combine. Also the Free Agent Tracker podcast. Those

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Speaker 1: are out. We've been doing a ton of those so

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Speaker 1: far leading into free agency. This week we're taking a

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Speaker 1: look at Ben Banigu and wide receiver Paris Campbell. And

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Speaker 1: then on Friday, The Last Word, the offseason radio home

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Speaker 1: for the Colts on ninety three five and one oh

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Speaker 1: seven five The with myself and Jeffrey Gorman. We'll preview

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Speaker 1: the Combine and talk with a Jeff Foster who's the

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Speaker 1: president of National Football Scouting and the head of the Combine.

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Speaker 1: He'll preview the event and talk about all of the

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Speaker 1: intricacies that change here in and year out leading into

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Speaker 1: the Scouting Combine. But that'll do it for this week's podcast, guys,

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Speaker 1: great show as always for Layah Overton, JJ Stangovitz. We'll

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Speaker 1: do it again next Tuesday live at the Combine with

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Speaker 1: our reaction from what Shane stike and and Chris Ballard

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Speaker 1: have to say downtown at the Indianapolis Convention Center. We'll

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Speaker 1: do that next Tuesday, but until then, have a great

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Speaker 1: week and stick it here on Colts dot Com and

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Speaker 1: the Colts Audio Network. So on.