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Speaker 1: is no off season for your Houston Texans. Game day

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Speaker 1: is every day. No, it's Texans All Lexans. Welcome and

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Speaker 1: everybody to a Monday edition of Texans All Access from

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Speaker 1: Monday Texans Radio Studio. I am your host, John Harris,

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Speaker 1: football analysts and sideline reporter for your Houston Texans. Glad

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Speaker 1: to be with you. The draft is in seventeen days,

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Speaker 1: He could be both the line linebacker. He can do

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Speaker 1: John Harris. As I told you earlier in the show.

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Speaker 1: Now it's time to talk to a guy that is

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Speaker 1: dad was in military for twenty years, so it was

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Speaker 1: that had a direct impact. I'm upbringing and how I

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Speaker 1: approached things on the field, and I'm nice off the field,

429
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Speaker 1: but on the field, I'm trying to be as mean

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Speaker 1: as I can be and be as the director as

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Speaker 1: I could beat. And I just try and reek havoc.

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Speaker 1: I'm just physical and I try and run through people

433
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Speaker 1: instead of going around. I love hearing that. Obviously it's

434
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Speaker 1: a former coach. That's one thing you want to hear

435
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Speaker 1: most is how physical is a guy. Now. I've seen

436
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Speaker 1: you play over the year, so I know you're physical,

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Speaker 1: but I ain't. The question becomes as you moved to Houston,

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Speaker 1: you move into a four to three, what positions suit

439
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Speaker 1: you best going forward? I mean, I feel like I

440
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Speaker 1: can play whether it's handing the dirt, standing up off

441
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Speaker 1: the ball, I feel like I can play at eating

442
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Speaker 1: one of those positions. I played handing the dirt in

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Speaker 1: high school. I even played right tackling high school. I

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Speaker 1: got to college played handed the dirt. I mean, even

445
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Speaker 1: even in my five season with the Jest there's sometimes

446
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Speaker 1: You've been in fourty three and I've just stood up.

447
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Speaker 1: So I mean, I've been in the system, and I've

448
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Speaker 1: been out of I've been in the four three three four.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I can get in where I fit

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Speaker 1: in and play wherever. I know you talked about Nick

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Speaker 1: as Sarrio and what's being built here. How much a

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Speaker 1: part of what Nick is doing? And as you were

453
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Speaker 1: kind of watching everything thing unfold and trying to figure

454
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Speaker 1: out what your next step is gonna be, how much

455
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Speaker 1: of whoa man? Look at the players they're adding, look

456
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Speaker 1: what they're doing. How much was that a part of

457
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Speaker 1: your decision? Obviously Houston means a lot, but then on

458
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Speaker 1: top of that, you're seeing a guy who has been

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Speaker 1: very successful the NFL, of the Patriots now building this

460
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Speaker 1: in Houston. How much did all that kind of work

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Speaker 1: to get together to make your decision? And I would

462
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Speaker 1: think relatively easy to come back home. Um, it's exactly

463
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Speaker 1: like you said, Um when when I flew down here, Um,

464
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Speaker 1: when free agent just started, I met with Nick, and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know you can always tell guys that are that

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Speaker 1: are straight shooters and guys that are going to smoke up.

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Speaker 1: You're in and and Nick Knicks not one of those.

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Speaker 1: Nick Nicks is a straight shooter, and uh, I could

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Speaker 1: tell from the meetings we had. He just was the

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Speaker 1: straight shooter that had a lot of high energy and

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Speaker 1: a lot of respect and that he meant what he

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Speaker 1: said when he wanted a team tool of guys that

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Speaker 1: are like minded, and guys that'll go to battle for

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Speaker 1: their brothers on the left, brothers on the right, and

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Speaker 1: that don't have high egos like every every one that

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Speaker 1: he's went after and everyone on the staff was just

477
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Speaker 1: high character guys that generally just want to work to

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Speaker 1: get better and want to compete and just want to

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Speaker 1: see each other, want to see each other get better

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Speaker 1: and get stronger, and just be successful on the defensive

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Speaker 1: side of the ball. In fact, I just got taught.

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Speaker 1: I just got through talking to Lovey Smith, defensive coordinator.

483
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Speaker 1: I don't know how much you knew about that part

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Speaker 1: of it before you came here, Jordan. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how much contact you've had with Lovey, and I'm sure

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Speaker 1: you'll have some very very soon. But what does a

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Speaker 1: guy that's been around the NFL, it's been successful as

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Speaker 1: a head coach, is a defensive coordinator how important is

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Speaker 1: that to your decision to come to Houston too, and

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Speaker 1: to be able to play for a guy with such

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Speaker 1: a long track record as Lovey Smith. Yeah, my dad

492
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Speaker 1: actually followed his coaching line coaching career too over the

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Speaker 1: last five to ten years. But I met with him

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Speaker 1: also before I made the decision to come, And I mean,

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Speaker 1: they just he has the same mindset that Nick has

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Speaker 1: in regards to They just want guys that give the

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Speaker 1: extra mile. We're watching clip some games it's just a

498
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Speaker 1: whole whole lot of effort plays and said this right here,

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Speaker 1: this is this is what we want guys on the

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Speaker 1: team to be. Like a guy a d lineman that's

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Speaker 1: running the three hundred and sixty pounds three hundred and

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Speaker 1: thirty pounds, running all the way down field to make

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Speaker 1: a game change, to play a game saving play, getting

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Speaker 1: m getting forced fumbles, and just guys that are getting

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Speaker 1: after the guys that are hungry versus guys who when

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Speaker 1: they see the ball go to other way, jog or not.

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00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 1: Since we want a team of guys that just generally

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Speaker 1: want to be around the ball and want to be

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Speaker 1: because when you're around the ball, good things happened and

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Speaker 1: It's just I loved everything he was preaching, man, and

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Speaker 1: he I got high respect for that guy. And he's

512
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Speaker 1: he said his whole career had a chip on his shoulder,

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Speaker 1: and I've got a big tip of my should over

514
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Speaker 1: the last couple of years as well. With that chip

515
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Speaker 1: on your shoulder. What is it that you want to prove?

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Speaker 1: You know, I just want to prove that I can

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Speaker 1: be a guy that can be just known for being, uh,

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Speaker 1: just the physical guy I just known for. I just

519
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Speaker 1: want to earn respect, you know, And that's one of

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Speaker 1: the big things for me. And I just want to

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Speaker 1: earn my respect and just being known for being a

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Speaker 1: competitor out there and just the guy who can get

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Speaker 1: things done. You said, you've been in the league for

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Speaker 1: five years. You're not you know, you're not old by

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Speaker 1: any standards, but when you spend five years in the league,

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Speaker 1: you do pick up a few things along the way,

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Speaker 1: and there will be some young players that come in

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Speaker 1: and they're gonna be competing for spots and competing with

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Speaker 1: you for a spot. Potentially, what's the information or what's

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Speaker 1: kind of the knowledge you'd want to share with a

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Speaker 1: young player to try and help that player along to

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Speaker 1: get to to get to a high level of play.

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Speaker 1: What's kind of the experience that you can share with them,

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Speaker 1: and what will be one piece of advice you would

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Speaker 1: give to them as they move along in their NFL careers. Um,

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Speaker 1: this is a question I can answer really good, really well,

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Speaker 1: because I had There's some problems I had my first

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Speaker 1: year with just trying to worry about too much. Like

539
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Speaker 1: when when you're worrying about too much, you know, you're

540
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Speaker 1: not seeing a whole lot, and it can bring you

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Speaker 1: down and you just can't let one practice or one

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Speaker 1: instance or whatever's going on outside of this, you can't

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Speaker 1: let that affect your time in the building and your

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Speaker 1: time on the field. And one of the things I

545
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: started doing my third and fourth year in the league

546
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Speaker 1: was I just you know what I want care people

547
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: say outside of this. You know, all I care about

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Speaker 1: is people in this building, and you know, I just

549
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: you just have to mute everything else that you don't

550
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: hear and just know that you're in the league. You

551
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: belong in the league, and you just got to go

552
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: out there in each and every day and you just

553
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: play everything apple like it's your last because, as you know,

554
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: there's your career can be gone in an instant, whether

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Speaker 1: you like it or not, and you just got to

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Speaker 1: play with that passion and be as dedicated as you

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Speaker 1: are on the field in the film as well. I'd

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Speaker 1: love to ask this question because I'm a I'm a

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Speaker 1: huge college football In fact, I started my career doing

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Speaker 1: college football at two decades of it covering college football, What,

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Speaker 1: in your estimation was the biggest difference from playing in

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Speaker 1: the SEC, not even arguably the best offered to college football,

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Speaker 1: and then moving to the NFL. What's the biggest difference

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Speaker 1: in playing in those two Because some people from the

565
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: SEC have said not really that much difference, but you

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Speaker 1: experienced it. You're one of those guys that played at Georgia,

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Speaker 1: played in the biggest games, and then you came to

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Speaker 1: the NFL. What was the biggest difference in going from

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Speaker 1: the SEC to the NFL. U The biggest difference would

570
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Speaker 1: have to be just some of the things you could

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Speaker 1: get away with. Well, the first all like, size is

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Speaker 1: not there. It's not a size difference because people in it,

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Speaker 1: as you see that's the same at the same as

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Speaker 1: as you see in the league. But the thing that

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00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: really was different from me was that there's things you

576
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: could get away with in college and be successful that

577
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Speaker 1: you can't get away with in the league. Like you

578
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: might have a slight hesitation move here, you might have

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Speaker 1: a certain court that you know you could just get

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Speaker 1: away with just on raw talent and just cheer athleticism

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00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: that you can get away from college that doesn't work

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Speaker 1: in the league. And I remember my first NAPP of passwords.

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Speaker 1: I was going against Breno Many and I did one

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Speaker 1: of my old favorite moves in college, a little bit

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Speaker 1: studded and going to do a stuttered sciences it. And

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Speaker 1: I went and stuttered, my chest was set straight up,

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Speaker 1: and he punched me right in the chest and it

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Speaker 1: completely stopped me in my tracks. And that's when I realized, Okay, hey,

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Speaker 1: this is the NFL. You can't you just got every

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Speaker 1: you have to be You have to be quick twist, yeah,

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00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: everything has to be firing at the same time, Like

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00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: you just can't get away with the little nuances like that.

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Speaker 1: All right, when we talk ball, and obviously you know,

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Speaker 1: we could talk ball for a long time, but I

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00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: know that our listeners love to know a little bit

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Speaker 1: about you. We asked this question of everybody. First of all,

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Speaker 1: I don't have to ask you barbecue question because you're

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Speaker 1: back in Houston, so i'd imagine you love to use

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Speaker 1: some barbecue, not even and being in New York was

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00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: just a disservice to you for many, many years. But

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Speaker 1: in getting ready for a game, everybody likes to get

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Speaker 1: ready for a game in a different way. I like

603
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: put my ID phones on getting ready for our games

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Speaker 1: and listen to various kinds of music. What are you

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Speaker 1: listening to to get you hype to go play on Sundays?

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Speaker 1: You know who? Game mix? Yeah? You know, I start

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00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: off on the way to the stadium. You know, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna play some old school rap. You know, we're just

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00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: in rap music to get hype, you know, like all right,

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Speaker 1: you know this is it when I get started, you know,

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Speaker 1: and then once I get into stadium, get changed out

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Speaker 1: and start rolling out, then I switch up to just

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Speaker 1: straight heavy metal. I'm listening to Corn of Bench sevenfold,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Disturbed, even a couple of slipping our songs

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Speaker 1: like I Am, I'm in it, you know, I'm just

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Speaker 1: trying to I gotta get in the mold to just

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Speaker 1: run through somebody and just treat you like you just

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Speaker 1: you went out to my family like I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: get in the mode to just tear somebody in half.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm trying to get into it. I have

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Speaker 1: asked that question, We have asked that question so many people,

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Speaker 1: and that is so completely not the answer we've gotten.

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Speaker 1: Larry LARRMYE. Tutsill said, shot Hey, I'm like shot a,

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Speaker 1: which takes sense when you see Laramie play because he's

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00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: such a smooth operator. So so I kind of get it.

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Speaker 1: John Gernards say, listen to some Christian rap, which, okay,

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Speaker 1: I could. I could see that we have not gotten

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Speaker 1: a heavy metal from anybody, so I love it. I

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Speaker 1: think that's fantastic. Jordan Jenkins one of your newest Texans. Jordan,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate your time. I know you've got it more

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Speaker 1: to talk with at the Houston media here, but I

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Speaker 1: really appreciate my friend. Thank you so much, and welcome

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Speaker 1: back to Houston. Yes, sir, thank you, thank you. Glad

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00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: to be back. That's some fun stuff there with Jordan Jenkins,

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00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: one of your newest Houston Texans. Which it hit me

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Speaker 1: how much change there's bands. You go to our Twitter

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Speaker 1: feed at Houston Tech at Houston Texans. We've got a

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00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: thread that started the very first day we could announce

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Speaker 1: the trades and the signings from the off season, and

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Speaker 1: through Twitter you can have four different pictures, right, and

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Speaker 1: so welcome to the Texans, and everybody's got a graphic.

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Speaker 1: That thing is like nine or ten tweeks long now,

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Speaker 1: because it's just enormously long. And when it's all said

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Speaker 1: and done, I man, I started thinking about this the

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Speaker 1: other day. How many guys had started just take the

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Speaker 1: take the game. Let's just take Week seventeen against the Titans.

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Speaker 1: How many guys that started in that game will start

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Speaker 1: for the Texans in twenty twenty one. I mean, first

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Speaker 1: of all, in that game, you didn't have larying Me Tons,

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Speaker 1: so you didn't have Titus Howard. They're both banged up.

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Speaker 1: You started Charlie hacking Rod Johnson. They'll be back, so

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Speaker 1: we'll Titus and larying me so they'll I'll be back.

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Speaker 1: But if you look at the starting twenty two and

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Speaker 1: match up with the starting twenty two on week one

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Speaker 1: to twenty twenty one, that sucker is gonna look really

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Speaker 1: really different. And what I saw that Twitter feed and

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Speaker 1: I was just like, welcome to Houston, Welcome to Houston,

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Speaker 1: And it was just one tweet after the next. I

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Speaker 1: was looking for in that, I was looking for the

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Speaker 1: thread to make sure we wouldn't announced it if we

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Speaker 1: hadn't gotten an official and I was looking for a

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Speaker 1: particular player, and I just said to keep going and

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Speaker 1: going and go. I'm like, man, this this long, Holy cow,

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Speaker 1: what's this gonna be? Like? Well, Jordan Jenkins one of

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Speaker 1: those editions. And like I said earlier, watching him play

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Speaker 1: for the Jets last year, doing some different things out

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Speaker 1: on the edge, but I got a feeling there's no doubt.

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Speaker 1: I talked to Lovey Smith last week and you can

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Speaker 1: go to Houston Texas dot com and hear the interview

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Speaker 1: that I did with him one on one. Hey, he's

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Speaker 1: talking about taking the ball away, but he also talked

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Speaker 1: about stopping the runs set in the edge. This team

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Speaker 1: did not do that last year. Enter Shack Lawson, Enter

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Speaker 1: Jordan Jenkins. Enter the four three defense, which also allows

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Speaker 1: Charles a Manner who to move out to defensive end

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Speaker 1: in a four to three as well. So there's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a stop in the run set in the edge.

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Speaker 1: Be hopefully some turnovers. Now those can be kind of

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Speaker 1: flukey in some sense, but as coach said, it is

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Speaker 1: something you can work on. But George Jenkins is no

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Speaker 1: doubt coming into this organization because as himself loves himself

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Speaker 1: from Houston, as his family does, and be because he

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Speaker 1: can make a significant impact on his defense set and

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Speaker 1: the edge and go and get the quarterback and most

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Speaker 1: importantly going and getting the football. Well, Texas at one

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Speaker 1: point had a guy that one got the football and

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Speaker 1: did get some sacks. He's no longer here. He has

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Speaker 1: bounced around the league since. Could be his third team

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Speaker 1: in three years, and it might be the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 1: We'll see what your devian clowney wants to do. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk about what could be as we were around the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Next right here on Texas Axis. For the most in

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Speaker 1: depth coverage of your favorite team and players, check out

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Speaker 1: Houston Texans dot com. Welcome back to the Conversation. It's

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Speaker 1: Texans All Access on Texans Radio. Yes, Sarah, what's going

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Speaker 1: on Monday evening? Turn a little gray? I hope that's

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Speaker 1: not rain who for one particular reason here in the

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Speaker 1: Harris household. But hopefully you guys are staying dry wherever

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Speaker 1: you are thank you for tuning in to Night to

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Speaker 1: Texans All Access. I am John Harris football and sideline reporter.

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Speaker 1: As I said earlier, looking forward to the draft in

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Speaker 1: seventeen days. If my math is correct, twenty nine minus

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Speaker 1: twelve is seventeen essentially two weeks from Thursday night. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: that Thursday night it will be the first round. The

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Speaker 1: Texans will not be involved. Friday night, they will make

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Speaker 1: a pick. They will be rolved involved in the second round,

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Speaker 1: but they will obviously in the third. As it sits

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Speaker 1: right now. But as we've seen this soft season, anything

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Speaker 1: can happen, and I mean anything, because if anybody when

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Speaker 1: that clock hit zeroes, when that field goal from that

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Speaker 1: puffed up kicker from Tennessee whose name escapes me, Sam

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Speaker 1: something and he joint it in from that point forward,

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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody Hollywood script writer m Night Shamalan,

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Speaker 1: righte the off season, go write a script, go you

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Speaker 1: would never come up with what we've seen this offseason.

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Speaker 1: But the draft is at least an opportunity to look

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Speaker 1: at hope for the future with I believe eight picks

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Speaker 1: as it sits right now, I don't know people say,

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Speaker 1: will you a fifth six shots said, what are you

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Speaker 1: gonna get? Look Andre Howe taking a seventh round. The

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Speaker 1: guy was a solid starter until he was ready to

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Speaker 1: give it up. They have found player DJ Reader, one

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Speaker 1: of the best interior players in the entire league. Found

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Speaker 1: him in the fifth round. Now back in twenty fourteen,

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Speaker 1: with the number one overall pick, they were able to

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Speaker 1: find him. Man wasn't too hard to look. Can't miss him.

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Speaker 1: Six six, two sixty five runs a four to five

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Speaker 1: Gevion Clowney. Now, I don't think he runs quite what

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Speaker 1: he did back in the day, but he is looking

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Speaker 1: for new team. And I knew what I want to

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Speaker 1: talk about coming into this break. Then I decide, you

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Speaker 1: know what, let me kind of just sift through some

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Speaker 1: of the some of the interwebs on this Clowney to

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Speaker 1: the Browns thing, and if you're a Browns fan, it's

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Speaker 1: it's pretty attractive, man, it's very attractive. Miles Garrett on

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Speaker 1: one side signed Tech McKinley already. Now you bring in Clowney, Well,

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Speaker 1: Clowney's not done much. He didn't do much last year

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Speaker 1: at all. Moving up there week six, I think he

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Speaker 1: had a tackle, maybe a tackle for a loss. He

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Speaker 1: didn't do much against US in Week six and then

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Speaker 1: missed Week seventeen injured, which we've seen before here in Houston.

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Speaker 1: I've always said I love Clowney. I that injury in

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Speaker 1: twenty fourteen combined with and Clowney was not a guy

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Speaker 1: that really loved anything other than Sundays. He didn't really

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Speaker 1: love any of that, to be on with you, and

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Speaker 1: I find it's interesting with the Browns because well, they're

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Speaker 1: thinking about coming to a deal, I mean training camp,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think he's been in a training camp

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Speaker 1: since a legit training camp since I don't know, sixteen,

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Speaker 1: maybe twenty sixty eighteen, I don't know. But as I

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Speaker 1: was diving through, and I feel like this is a

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Speaker 1: pretty interesting it would be a pretty interesting signing for

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Speaker 1: both sides. I feel two things. Number One, Jeremy Fowler,

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Speaker 1: who reads for ESPN, covers kind of the AFC North.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of the Steelers for ESPN said that

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Speaker 1: two other teams to keep an eye on the Ravens,

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Speaker 1: which makes a lot of sense. And the Colts. Oh god,

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Speaker 1: now I know I just said that Clowney didn't do

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Speaker 1: how whole of a lot of the Titans. I just

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Speaker 1: don't want to see him with the Colts. There's something.

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Speaker 1: First of all, the two don't seem to mesh just

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Speaker 1: how they think about things. But Matt seeing him in

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Speaker 1: Colts ninety jars as would look weird just to be

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Speaker 1: signs with the Browns. I mean, we'll play the Browns.

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Speaker 1: But but then safety John Johnson, who was one of

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Speaker 1: the free agents signings signings for the Browns, and I

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Speaker 1: thought he was a very, very good signing. He said

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Speaker 1: this via Instagram Live Lab about a week ago, and

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Speaker 1: I quote, Clowney ain't never been on a defense with

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Speaker 1: anyone all that good. We got dogs, all caps, we

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Speaker 1: got guys who can cover. We'll get him here. Okay, Sparky,

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Speaker 1: you might want to slow your roll a little bit there.

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Speaker 1: I've always been a John Johnson fan. Uh yeah, he

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Speaker 1: needs to take a back seat and realize what this

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Speaker 1: defense had back in fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, in

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Speaker 1: particular eighteen, because you had obviously Clowning was on it.

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Speaker 1: You had a three time defensive Player of the Year

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Speaker 1: still playing at a very high level in JJ Watt.

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Speaker 1: You had one of the better interior players in the league,

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Speaker 1: better than anybody the Browns have on the interior right now,

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Speaker 1: DJ Reader, You had pro bowler Bernard McKinney, pro bowler

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Speaker 1: Zach Cuttingham. You had a rookie at Justin Reid who

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Speaker 1: was one of the better safeties in the league, maybe

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Speaker 1: better than John Johnson, to be honest with you. You

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Speaker 1: had a guy by the name of Tyrant Matthew. You

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Speaker 1: heard of him on the outside. You had Jonathan Joseph,

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Speaker 1: you had Kareem Jackson. Careful pal, there was a time

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Speaker 1: where this defense here in Houston was awfully, awfully good

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Speaker 1: and had dogs around Clowney. Now Clowney obviously was one

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Speaker 1: of the main dogs. He will be an interesting piece,

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Speaker 1: like I said, with the Browns. But sometimes when you

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Speaker 1: speak out of turn, you end up sounding like an idiot.

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Speaker 1: No offense, But that's an idiotic comment to say he

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Speaker 1: ain't never been on a defense with anyone. All that good. Now,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna take away from Denzel Ward, John Johnson,

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Speaker 1: Miles Garrett, not at all. But you look at twenty

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Speaker 1: eighteen defense with Watt b Mack, Zach, DJ, Tyring, Kareem

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Speaker 1: j Joe. Don't even get me started about there were

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Speaker 1: no dogs on that defense. You can miss me with that, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: without a doubt, you can miss me with that, John Johnson. Now,

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Speaker 1: if Clowney does sign with the Browns, I'll give it

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Speaker 1: to him. They're gonna have some dogs on that defense.

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Speaker 1: Denzel Ward, well have John Johnson. They'll get Grant Delpit

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Speaker 1: back after missing all of last year, missus rookie year,

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Speaker 1: which was a shame. You got Garrett, you'd have Clowney

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Speaker 1: up front, mentioned Tack McKinley. Then that's the guys that

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Speaker 1: good after it. But they lost Larry Ogan job on

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Speaker 1: the inside. I think that's a bigger loss of people

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Speaker 1: are pointing out. I do think, and I want to

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Speaker 1: say that I mocked Christian Barmore to them, so they

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Speaker 1: have somebody on the interior. Brown's team is pretty salty,

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Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. But you're gonna sit there and

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Speaker 1: throw Clonie in at defense and then turn around and say, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that defense is better than the talent that was on

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Speaker 1: the Texas twenty eighteen defense. No, no, sir, John Johnson.

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Speaker 1: I like you, man, I like you. I like you

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Speaker 1: a lot, and I know you get on Instagram live

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Speaker 1: you start feeling yourself a little bit like yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we got a bunch of dogs. That's cool. But I'll

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Speaker 1: tell me he'd been around anybody that good. Don't give

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Speaker 1: me that nonsense at all. Man, I really wanted to. Maybe,

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Speaker 1: I'll say for tomorrow, Saints v. Falcons on Twitter is awesome.

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Speaker 1: So I'll hold that for tomorrow. We'll talk about that tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Jude Oreio will be by whatever in the lab for tomorrow. Joanna,

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Speaker 1: thank you very much, gott to thank Jordan Jenkins for

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Speaker 1: being on with me. Thank you so much for listening.

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Speaker 1: You guys, we're seventeen days away. Do we see the

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Speaker 1: next pieces in this restructuring of the Texans for twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one and beyond. Cannot wait. We'll count down today's

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Speaker 1: but we'll be back with all access tomorrow night right

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Speaker 1: here sixty seven on Sports Radio six ten. Appreciate you guys,

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Speaker 1: as always and as always, go Texans. This is Texans

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Speaker 1: Radio on Sports Radio six ten.