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Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you get in touch with technology? With

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Speaker 1: tech stuff from How Stuff Workstop coming, Hello everybody, and

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Speaker 1: welcome to text Stuff. My name is Chris Poette and

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Speaker 1: I'm an editor here at how Stuff Works dot com.

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Speaker 1: Sitting across from me, as usual, is senior writer Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Stricklin there and uh, so, what do you want to

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Speaker 1: talk about today? Well, I thought we'd talked about topic

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Speaker 1: that we talked about. It seems pretty much every day pie. No,

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Speaker 1: not pie, different topic. The other topic we talked about

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Speaker 1: every days the hundred forty character topic that that just

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Speaker 1: won't die. Um, there's no, no, no, there's no secret.

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Speaker 1: I'm a Twitter junkie. I really am, and that really

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Speaker 1: is no secret, right everyone who follows kay and there

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Speaker 1: are a lot of other Twitter junkies out there, but

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Speaker 1: they're starting to become an unwelcome audience in certain venues.

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Speaker 1: And that's why you wanted to talk about specifically sporting events. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is uh, this is the sports section this week. Yes, um? No, actually, um,

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Speaker 1: it's been in the news quite a lot recently, especially

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Speaker 1: seen it in print sauce. Yes, entirely possible. Uh And

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Speaker 1: that's not nerve racking at all. Okay, now that we've

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Speaker 1: Alex says, Hey, guys, I was listening to your video

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Speaker 1: so you can you can buy, you can, yeah, you

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Speaker 1: and uh, there's just in there's no more Twitter. Thanks

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure our listeners don't want to hear it, okay,

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