1 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Official Jets Podcast powered 2 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: by Amazon Web Services. Today's episode, e A and I 3 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: catch up with Matt Miller of Bleacher Report, their lead 4 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: draft expert and draft covers. Really ramping up here, e A, 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:19,959 Speaker 1: what did you think about the interview with Matt Miller? 6 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,319 Speaker 1: What stood out to you before we dive into it here? Uh? 7 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: So many things. Uh. I thought it was interesting his 8 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: take on the running backs, because sure, we've been focused 9 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: on wide receivers and tackles and cornerbacks and edges, and 10 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: rightfully sold because those are clear Jets needs. But you 11 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: also have to think about positions where you need increased depth. 12 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: And Levyan Bell, the star running back, still one of 13 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 1: the better players in the league, will be back next 14 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: year and I think, um, I'm looking forward to seeing 15 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: him play behind the revant offensive line greens. But listen, 16 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: you got below Paul Anti Montgomery on restrict of free agents, 17 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: so who are the guys going to be lining up 18 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 1: behind him? And Matt during his evaluations, the further he 19 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: went along and looked at tape and talk to people 20 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: throughout the league is that there are a lot of 21 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 1: guys with valuable skill sets who would provide teams with 22 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 1: great complimentary options out of the backfield. Matt Miller talked 23 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: about a couple of them, one that he packed to 24 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: the Jets in his seven round mock draft. Without further ado, 25 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: here's the one on one with Matt Miller. First things first, 26 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 1: how are you health wise? And how is this whole 27 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: pandemic changed, if at all, your day to day basis 28 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: at this time of year. Well, I appreciate you guys 29 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: having me on um. As I've told you before, I 30 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: live in the middle of nowhere, which I was probably 31 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: the first time in my life. I'm very fortunate to 32 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: live in the middle of nowhere, so you know, I'm 33 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: taking this as seriously as everyone else, you know, limiting 34 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: my contact with the people, not you know, sitting at 35 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: the bar every night drinking beer is talking to my friends, 36 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: you know, being very mindful of what I come in 37 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: contact with. The begging my parents to stay home, like 38 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: what a switch now, you know, trying to tell mom 39 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: and dad to stay home and use the senior citizen 40 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: hours at the grocery store. But no, I mean I'm good. 41 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: You know, I live in an area where we thankfully 42 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: haven't seen the numbers rise as of yet, but definitely 43 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: keeping everyone up there. You guys know, I've I've spent 44 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: a lot of time in New York over the last 45 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: decade working for Bleacher Report, have a lot of friends 46 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: up there, including yourselves and people in that building. So 47 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: definitely wishing the best for everybody up in the New 48 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: York area and Matt So for people who don't know 49 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: where in the Midwest are yet. Man, I'm a Joplin, Missouri. 50 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: So if you, um, I tell people, if you watch 51 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: Ozark and Tiger King on Netflix, I'm right in the middle. 52 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: I'm right in the middle of those two shows, and 53 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: it's like that's where I live. Those are the people 54 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: I interact with every day, Tiger King and Jason Bateman. 55 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: So I'm in a community of like a hundred and 56 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: fifty thousand people, you know, and and we have yet 57 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: to see Missouri as a state, uh you know, do 58 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: the statewide shutdown. But but I do live in an 59 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: area where the city leaders have you know, stepped in 60 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago and and shut things down. 61 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: And honestly, you know, Bleacher Report did very early. They 62 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,839 Speaker 1: told us, you know, it feels like it was four 63 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: months ago at this point. It was probably three weeks. 64 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: You know that they didn't want us traveling. They wanted 65 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 1: us to take this seriously. And and so again, very 66 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: fortunate to have, you know, to be surrounded by smart 67 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: people who are making good decisions. You have a lot 68 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: of contacts throughout the National Football League. How is this 69 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: impacting a scouting process here in April or three, three 70 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: weeks away from the two thousand, twenty NFL draft, and 71 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: this will be the most precedented draft I can remember, Oh, 72 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: without a doubt. Yeah, I've talked to players about that, 73 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: even like, you know, you guys are going through something 74 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: that no one has ever gone through before, So you know, 75 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: try to be mindful of that. When you talk to scouts, agents, coaches, 76 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: general managers. It's funny because you'll get different opinions. I've 77 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: talked to some guys who, you know, they're enjoying the 78 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: time with their family that they really wouldn't get this 79 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: time of year. You know, they're actually being at home 80 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: instead of at the facility seven. So there's there's a 81 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: silver lining to it. Other guys are excited because I 82 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: have one scout tell me we're actually gonna draft football players, 83 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 1: not track stars this year. Because the tape that the 84 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: guys put on on the field for three or four 85 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: years is what you're gonna have to rely on instead 86 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 1: of the private workouts the pro days. You know, this 87 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: year we actually saw I believe a record number of 88 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: players not perform at the Combine because the schedule change. 89 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 1: So it's funny that was such a topic a month ago, like, 90 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: no one's working out at the Combine now because there 91 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: aren't private workouts, there aren't pro days. There are a 92 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: lot of players where you don't have a full athletic profile. 93 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: On Tee Higgins from Clemson, right everyone expected this guy 94 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: to be a fresh rounder. He doesn't work out at 95 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 1: the Combine and his pro day was one of the 96 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: last ones before everything was shut down by the National 97 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: Football League, And so the number that's out there on 98 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: him is a four or five six and the forty 99 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: yard dash, which isn't terrible, but it's not great. He 100 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: doesn't have a chance to do better than that. There 101 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: are other players who, you know, Day three guys or 102 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: small school players. This is really going to affect. One 103 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: that stands out to me, Tyler Johnson from Minnesota, incredibly 104 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: productive for for two years for the Gophers a wide 105 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: receiver but opted out of the Shrine game and then 106 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: opted not to run or do agilities at the at 107 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: the combines. So now you have a player that you 108 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: haven't seen him do any athletic testing, didn't get a 109 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: prote and can't do private workouts. Guys like that are 110 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: are unfortunately going to see a slide because of this. 111 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: You know, I'm glad you mentioned that, because just keeping 112 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 1: the receiver thing just a couple of things. A couple 113 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: of guys stand out to me when you think of 114 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: like Brian Edwards didn't play in the Senior Bowl and 115 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 1: he brothers footing training Van Jefferson. But what one guy 116 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: that I wanted to ask you about, maybe just your 117 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 1: evaluation and how this process has affected him. What about 118 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: somebody at the tackle spot like Prince tega Wanogo who's 119 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: an intriguing prospect and has a great story but not 120 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: being able to participate in a lot of these things, 121 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: Like where is his evaluation at now? And just what 122 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: kind of football player do you think he is? Yeah, 123 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: you almost have to put like an incomplete grade on 124 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: some of these guys, which is not a good thing. 125 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: That's not where you want to be. So, like you said, 126 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: an amazing story. I know that initially they were very 127 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: excited to get him at the Senior Bowl, and so 128 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: I think the injury questions are for a player like Prince, 129 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: that's gonna hurt. So if you're talking about maybe he 130 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: would have been like around two round three player to 131 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 1: begin with. If you're not comfortable with the medicals and 132 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: you weren't able to see a workout, that's when players, 133 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: I think, are gonna see a slide um. You know, 134 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: Lucas Nying from TCU is another offensive tackle who's kind 135 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 1: of in a similar boat where you have a history 136 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: of some hip issues and the fact that he wasn't 137 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: able to participate in the pre draft process before things 138 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: were shut down. It just it leaves you wanting more 139 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 1: information and you're almost having to rely on third party 140 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: sources when it comes to medicals or outdated information. You know, 141 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 1: a year in physical or guys who are at the 142 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. You're hoping they at least went through a 143 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: physical process. There's that you can get those medical records, 144 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: but scouts and general manager are definitely scrambling. And so 145 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: for those two offensive tackles particularly, there are players that 146 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: I like, I don't have either ranked to my top 147 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,119 Speaker 1: eight tackles right now because of just the question marks 148 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: when it comes to where they're at from a health perspective. 149 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: We're certainly going to talk more about the tackles and 150 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: receivers offensively, also the cornerbacks and the edges defensively, because 151 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: those are four definite Jets needs. But hey, listen, you're 152 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: doing a lot of film work. You just did your 153 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: seven round mock draft that probably took you a couple 154 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: of years to finish. I don't know how you're able 155 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: to complete those, um but one thing that you've been 156 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: stressing it's kind of been under the radar, is the 157 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: depth of this running back group. Yeah, it is. It's 158 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: a good group. Yeah, And I think it's it's the 159 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: difference between living on Twitter and living in a world 160 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: where you talk to NFL decision makers because you'll you'll see, 161 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: you know, folks on Twitter either love or hated class, 162 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: and you talked to people around the league, and and 163 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: I I put a starting grade on seven players, and 164 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: then I put a high level contributor grade on five. 165 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: More so you're at twelve to thirteen running backs that 166 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: I believe as rookies could be high level contributors. So 167 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: it is a very good class. You know. DeAndre Swift 168 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: from Georgia at the top is my number one running back. 169 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: Then you have Jonathan Taylor from Wisconsin who over six 170 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: thousand rushing yards, you know, and and four or four 171 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: speed Clyde Edwards Hilaria and j K Dobbins two players 172 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: that we saw, you know, carry teams to the post 173 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: season and have big performances there. I'm still believer in 174 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: Cam Makers coming out of Florida State. I think he 175 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: could be a starter in the NFL. I guarantee you 176 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: he will never run behind the worst offensive line than 177 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: he did in college. Zack Moss at Utah, you know, 178 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: he's a punishing, powerful guy. Keyshaw Vonn at Vanderbilt excellent 179 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: receiver out of the backfield with some big place speeds. 180 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: So there are are good running backs. And whether the 181 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: Jets value that early with Levi on Bell coming back 182 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: or not, it's still a good year to get a 183 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: complimentary back or someone that you believe could be uh 184 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: you know, down the road, could become a starter. You know, 185 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 1: I'm very glad you mentioned that because I've seen previous 186 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: mock drafts of yours where you had cam Akers to 187 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: the Jets in the third round. So what about acres 188 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: Is game do you think could compliment Levy on Bell? Well, 189 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 1: and not only that, but in your seven round mock 190 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: draft that e. A mentioned, you had them taking a 191 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: running back in the sixth round and you know Benjamin 192 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: out of Arizona State. Yeah. Something those guys have in 193 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 1: common is that they're both very good receivers out of 194 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: the backfield. And I think cam Akers in a lot 195 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: of ways, is a poor man's Levian Bell. You want 196 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: that outside zone runner who's gonna be exceptional, you know, 197 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: on wheel routes, getting out to the flats, being a 198 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: safety valve for the quarterback in the passing game. I 199 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: love that about cam Akers, and I think had he 200 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: been at an L s U or Ohio State or Alabama, 201 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: we would be talking much more about his production. You know. Unfortunately, 202 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: I of the running backs I've studied, no one how 203 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: the worse offensive line than he did in two thousand 204 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: eighteen and two thousand nineteen. So with Acres, you're getting 205 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: a really nice blend of vision, contact, balance, and power 206 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: with enough runaway speed where you get him on the outside, 207 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: get him on the corner. He has that ability to 208 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: make daylight runs where he's gonna get he's gonna get 209 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 1: to the open field, and he's gonna be able to 210 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: get to the end zone. And with you Know Benjamin, 211 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: you know, he has a smaller guy who's not someone 212 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: I would project to be a fe your back that's gonna, 213 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: you know, be your twenty touch carey guy. But as 214 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: a compliment to someone like Levian Bill, you know, is 215 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: gonna give you a little bit more of a spark, 216 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: a little bit more flash, but also just what he 217 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: could bring to the table as a pass catcher. He's 218 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: gotta get better and pass protection. I think that's the 219 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: biggest issue with you Know Benjamin, who saw the production 220 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: especially as a receiver in two thousand nineteen was fantastic. 221 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: But he is not ready right now to stack up 222 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: against blitzers in the NFL and be able to protect 223 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: the Sam Donald. So he's a little bit of a 224 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: developmental guy, but but does have some tools that I 225 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: really like. Do you think something's changed in the National 226 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:35,479 Speaker 1: Football League? For years we talk about the left tackles 227 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: being the emphasis and then below them the right tackles, 228 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 1: where this year. When we think about these big four 229 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: prospects who are almost as surely gonna all go in 230 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: the first round, there's a couple of guys who they 231 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: are projecting are going to be right tackles in and 232 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: contribute right away. Well. And to those guys played right tackle. 233 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: Tristan worfs Iowa was the right tackle. Jeddrick Wills at 234 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: Alabama was the right tackle. Now, they're both very athletic 235 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: and I think couldn't make that transition. But something you 236 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: even see with Josh Jones out of Houston at the 237 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl, we saw him work a lot at right tackle, 238 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: so e I do think there's something to that of 239 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: you just want to get your five best lineman on 240 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: the field these days, because you have to worry about 241 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: von Miller coming off the right edge, you have to 242 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: worry about Khalil Mack. You have to worry about the 243 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: San Francisco forty Niners rolling up Nick Bosa and d Ford. 244 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: You have to worry about the Los Angeles Chargers with 245 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 1: Melvin Ingram and Joey Bosa. So you can't you can't 246 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: handicap yourself like you used to. Where Okay, we have 247 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: to stop Lawrence Taylor and Derek Thomas. We'll just put 248 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,719 Speaker 1: we have a good left tackle, it doesn't really matter 249 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 1: what we do on the right side. But I think 250 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 1: you can look at Lane Johnson and Philadelphia Mitchell Schwartz 251 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: in Kansas City as guys who are I mean, they're 252 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: their best lineman on their roster and they're very, very 253 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: valuable in that spot. So as defenses get, you know, 254 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: more balanced in their pass rush, I think having a 255 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: right tackle who you know isn't a scrub. You know, 256 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: a guy who is an athlete and can stop the 257 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: good pass pass rushers that you see is incredibly important 258 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: because this isn't rocket science, right. If you have a 259 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: bad right tackle, guests roun putting my best pass rusher, 260 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna figure out a way 261 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: to put put my best guy over there. And especially 262 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: you know in the a f C East, we've seen 263 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 1: the Dolphins spend a lot of money on pass rushers 264 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: with the Patriots or the Patriots they're always gonna to 265 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: be able to get after the quarterback. And then Bills 266 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: have some young guys there, so you have to be 267 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: able to be left and right handed to protect your quarterback. 268 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: You know Jedrick Wills, I believe. I don't know if 269 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: it's changed since, but last time I checked in with you, 270 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: he was your first offensive tackle, your highest graded guy. 271 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: You recently had him on your podcast Stick to Football. 272 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: Just a couple of things. One, what's what's something that 273 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: you kind of took away from that interview? Like what 274 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: something fans don't know about him? And do you think 275 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 1: a team like the Browns, who are one pick ahead 276 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: of the Jets, they're also likely to address tackle. Whether 277 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 1: that's at ten or later on in the draft to 278 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: be determined. But if they are at ten and they 279 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: just signed Jack Conklin, do you think that would almost 280 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: prohibit them from taking somebody like Jeddrick Wills or Tristan 281 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: Warps who's more of a projection on the left side 282 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: as opposed to McKay Beckton or Andrew Thomas. Yeah, they're 283 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: a tough team to figure out that the Cleveland Browns 284 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: are because you they don't ever have anyone there long 285 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: enough for us to study the trends, right, So it's 286 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: it's really hard to say, Okay, this is what they 287 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: like in a player, this is what they're looking for. 288 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: That's definitely an interesting part of this. They need a 289 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: left tackle. They don't need someone who, you know, Jack 290 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:23,719 Speaker 1: Honklin is gonna start a right tackle and be a 291 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: high level player there. So I think with the with 292 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: the Browns specifically, that could lean you more towards him 293 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: a kay Beckton. I think one thing that I learned 294 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: talking to Jeddrick Wills, and I've talked to Tristan Worf's 295 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: not on my podcast, but I've talked to him separately. 296 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: Both guys are are too fantastic athletes, and not just 297 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: four yard speed. You know, they're very good short area agility, quickness, 298 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: They both have good length, and so all the boxes 299 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: that you would traditionally check for a guy to play 300 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: left tackle, they both hit that. And we asked Jeddrick Wills, hey, 301 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: if to a tongue of Bloa had been right handed, 302 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 1: would you have played left tackle? And he really said, 303 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm comfortable playing wherever that's where they 304 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 1: me to play. Alex Leatherwood, Alabama's left tackle, is a 305 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: pretty good player in his own right. But I've seen 306 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: Worths and Will's play enough to feel pretty confident they 307 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: could play on the left side, whether that's in Cleveland 308 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: or in New York or you know the Arizona Cardinals. 309 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: Whoever ends up drafted one of those guys in the 310 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: top ten or eleven picks. If you're the Jets at eleven, 311 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: you have to trust your board. And that's what Joe 312 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: Douglas is gonna do. There's no doubt about that. Um. 313 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: But you when you're ranking these guys and we're a 314 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: couple of weeks away and the Matt Miller Big board, 315 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: do you have those four tackles really close together? Because 316 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: there is a need for the Jets. I always tell 317 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: Green's yes, you go, best player available, but need breaks 318 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: the tie. And also where do you see the drop 319 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: off where you say, well, maybe, yeah, I want to 320 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: protect Sam Donald, but I gotta give him a playmaker too, 321 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: and I love one of these receivers. Now you're right, man. 322 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: I always say that best player available is actually one 323 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: of the biggest lives in the NFL because you're gonna 324 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: put your needs at the top, right, so it is 325 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: the best available at in need. It's it's amazing that 326 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: every general manager still rolls that out, like, oh yeah, 327 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: he was the best player on our board. In most cases, 328 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: it was the best player out of needs. So I 329 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: do think that, you know, with the Jets, um, I 330 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: have those tackles rank very closely together. I have Jeddrick 331 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: Will's first, Tristan Worf's second, McKay Beckton third, and then 332 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: Andrew Thomas fourth, and not far behind them, I have 333 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: Josh Jones from Houston and Austin Jackson from USC. So 334 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: I do expect six tackles to be drafted in the 335 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: first round this year with the Jets, I feel like 336 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: at eleven they're in a really good position to not 337 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: have to use those two second round picks to trade 338 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: up and get a tackle. Um, the best thing for 339 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: the New York Jets would be for quarterbacks to go early. 340 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: You want four quarterbacks going in the top tents because 341 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: that's gonna push more good offensive tackles down to where 342 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: you guys are drafting at eleven. So, I think again, 343 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: they're in a good spot where I don't feel like 344 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: this is a year where we're gonna see another defender 345 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: in the first round, even though there's some good players 346 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: out there at edge, rusher and a corner. If the 347 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: one of the tackles isn't there, if you don't like 348 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: the tackles. That just means more receivers are available. And 349 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: in most mock drafts that I do right now, all 350 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: the receivers are still on the board at eleven because 351 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: we're not expecting you know, the Cardinals trade for New Hopkins, 352 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: they don't need a receiver anymore. We're not expecting the 353 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers to take one. We're not really expecting the 354 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars to take one. So the Jets end up 355 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: in a position where you might be looking at the 356 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: second best offensive tackle and the best wide receiver. Which 357 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: that's where it comes down to what you were talking 358 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: about e A. It's the best player at a position 359 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: of need. And and in my opinion, and I believe 360 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: Joe Douglas feels this way too, a left tackle is 361 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: a lot more important than a wide receiver, and they're 362 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: a lot harder to find. The best offensive tackles in 363 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: the NFL right now, we're first round picks, so it's 364 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,479 Speaker 1: really a position where you have to spend that premium 365 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: pick at wide receiver. We've all called this a historic 366 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: receiver class. There's gonna be good players to be had 367 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: in the forties. When the Jets come back on the clock. Well, 368 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: to your point right there, who do you like at 369 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: forty eight when the Jets are back on the clock. 370 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: Obviously it depends to everybody who potentially, like the Minnesota 371 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 1: Vikings take to replace Stefon Diggs. And but who's a 372 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: guy that you know, unrelated to whether you think they'll 373 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: be there or not, who do you like more than others? Yeah? 374 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: You know. I actually I'm a fan of Denzel Mims 375 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: from Baylor. He's incredibly raw, but I mean he's athletic 376 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: as heck, and it is big and he can run. 377 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: So I like Denzel Mims. I still really like Michael 378 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: Pittman from USC so just get that Trojan connectionally going 379 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: with Sam Donald, I watched this guy. It was the 380 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: night before the Wisconsin Michigan game. I was in Madison, Wisconsin, 381 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: and I'm out of a bar with my guys from 382 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 1: Stick to Football and I'm watching Michael Pittman destroy Utah 383 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: and that Utah defense is gonna have like eight players 384 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: drafted and Pittman is just going off and he's not 385 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: the fastest guy, but in some ways reminds me of 386 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 1: Michael Thomas with how physical he is in his route 387 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: running that he creates separation just by being physical and 388 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 1: by being precise with his route. So I'm a fan 389 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: of Michael Pittman. If he's there at forty eight, I 390 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: would be jumping all over that because I do think, 391 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna see a tier of receivers, whereas 392 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: Michael Pittman and then some smaller guys like a Jalen 393 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 1: Reagor from TCU, kJ Hambler from Penn State, who I 394 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: had the Jets taking in my latest mock draft. Um 395 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: the receivers that we expect to be there in round two, 396 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 1: there's not a lot of like big physical players, and 397 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: Pittman would give Sam Donald someone that that is going 398 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: to box out. He's gonna be physical, you know, all 399 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: breaking rounds on slants. He's gonna post up in the 400 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: red zone. And we've seen him in half production against 401 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: NFL caliber corners and not just that Utah game, a 402 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: lot of the what he did in the Pac twelve 403 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: over the last two years. At NFL Draft Scout, Matt 404 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: Millery bringing the information as always, Okay, let me ask 405 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: you about cornerback. We know a Kuda Ohio State he 406 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: could go in the top five. He might be a 407 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: likely number three selection if the lines stay there. Who 408 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: else should we be paying attention to down the line, 409 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: whether that's round one or early in round two, because 410 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: the Jets still do have a need on the outside. 411 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 1: They brought back in Brian Pool he acquisition, Uh, they 412 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: bring in Pierre this year. What we don't know, it's 413 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 1: gonna start opposite uh this year. Now, what do you 414 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: see in terms of this draft? And maybe rounds two, 415 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 1: rounds three, or even late one. Yeah, you know, this 416 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: corner class is interesting because there's Jeff Acuda, who's gonna be, 417 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,479 Speaker 1: like you said, a top five pick. Then there's C. J. Henderson, 418 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: who's probably gonna be a top twenty pick. Somewhere between 419 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 1: nine and in seventeen is probably his floor. After that, 420 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: there's a tier of corners that are very hard to separate, uh, 421 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,239 Speaker 1: Jeff Gladdeney from TCU five ten, but incredibly sticky at 422 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. There's big guys like Christian Fulton 423 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: from l s U, Jalen Johnson from Utah, A J. 424 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: Terrell from Clemson, guys who we saw in the College 425 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 1: Football Playoff, a couple of those. So then you get 426 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 1: into the these guys are all six ft six ft 427 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: one six ft two complay on the outside, they're all 428 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: two hundred pounds uh. And then after that, I think 429 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: there's another tier of players that are you know, Trevon 430 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: Diggs would probably be in that that tier with those 431 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: other big guys. But you know, then there's a break 432 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 1: to the next group and there's a lot more question 433 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: marks with someone like Noah but not from Auburn, who's 434 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: probably gonna go around pick fifty. Um. So it's it's 435 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: a good corner class in the top I think sixty four. 436 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: After that, I see a pretty significant drop off. After that. 437 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: You're getting into guys like a Bryce Hall from Virginia 438 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 1: who you know had two lower leg breaks this this 439 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: past season. One injury, but two broken bones. Gigantic question 440 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: mark right now because you're not able to bring him 441 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: into Floren Park and run him through the you know, 442 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: all the physicals that you want to do and get 443 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 1: the X rays in the m r I s can't 444 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 1: do that. So I think someone like Bryce Hall, normally 445 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: you would say it's a tremendous value in round three 446 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 1: right now there would be a little more uncertainty around 447 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 1: a player like that, So I'm with you. I think 448 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: outside corner is a big need. If you don't go 449 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: there in round two, I would probably hang my hat 450 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: on someone like Stanford Samuel's from Florida State, and round 451 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: three camera dancler from Mississippi State would be another player 452 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 1: that I believe they have the size to hold up 453 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: on the outside in a Greig Williams defense. Matt, before 454 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,479 Speaker 1: we let you go, just real quick, the Jets have eleven, 455 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: forty six and seventy nine and Matt Millard's ideal scenario, 456 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: how does that board fall out for the Jets first 457 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: four picks ideal out of eleven, you're getting Jeddrick Wills 458 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 1: because he is my top tackle. I believe he would 459 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: be that that left tackle to protect Sam Donald for 460 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: the next ten years. I think in the second round 461 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: with those two picks, ideally you're getting a receiver like 462 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: a Michael Pittman, someone who can be your ex receiver. 463 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 1: He could be your number one guy, your go to UH. 464 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,719 Speaker 1: I place a big emphasis on edge rusher in this defense, 465 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: a little bit over corner even so I would be 466 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: looking at Ed Dresher, someone like Darrell Taylor from Tennessee 467 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: that has quickness, can stand up and rush off the 468 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: edge and put his hand in the dirt. But it's 469 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: really gonna win with that first step ability, and then 470 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: I would look at corner with that what I believe 471 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: pick seventy nine, that fourth pick where you could get 472 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: someone like a camera dancer from Mississippi State who I 473 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 1: don't believe he gave up a touchdown in the last 474 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: three years in the SEC. It definitely has the size 475 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 1: to hold up on the edge. Matt, thanks so much 476 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 1: for joining us, and stay safe out there. Likewise, you guys, 477 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: stay safe and good luck with this draft. Always great 478 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 1: to hear from Matt Miller. You can follow him on Twitter. 479 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: Like we said at NFL Draft Scout e A, we 480 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: mentioned it in the interview here and there that Matt 481 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: Miller had a seven round mock draft and just real 482 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: quick wanted to get your take on it. At least 483 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,479 Speaker 1: the first three rounds. He has the Jets going McKay 484 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: Beckton at eleven, Penn statewide receiver kJ Hamler in the 485 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: second round, Michigan edge Josh who ch A, and then 486 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: Florida State cornerback Stanford Samuel the third tackle, receiver Edged 487 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 1: and cornerback Dolls are the four needs that we've been 488 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: talking about, so on paper, that makes sense. Backton Greens 489 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: might have the highest ceiling of any offensive alignment in 490 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: this draft. Uh. He seems like a Joe Douglas type player. Tenacious, 491 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 1: a guy who's tough, he wants to get after you, smacky. 492 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: In the phase three six four pounds. Uh played the 493 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:55,439 Speaker 1: left tackle most recently. I wont everybody projects on the 494 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: Jets draft board in terms of which side they'd like 495 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: him to play on, but you know, just listening to 496 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 1: backed In and hearing people talk about him, he seems 497 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: like a Douglas type. Loves football, loves getting after you, 498 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: wants to get dirty, and he wants to pose his 499 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: will on you. kJ Hamdler or somebody that didn't run 500 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: at the combine but had. He probably a sub four 501 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 1: four guys, so he's got speed for days. He's he's 502 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: a little light and short. You wait in at five 503 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: nine one eight. I think he's really like a gadget player. 504 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: I think he can line up out wide. Obviously, I 505 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: don't think he's winning fifty fifty balls, but I think 506 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: he might be one of those guys where his game 507 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: is he gets open and once he has the ball 508 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 1: in his hands. He can take a three yard slant 509 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: and take it the distance, or take fifteen yards in 510 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 1: and get twenty yards after the catch. kJ Hamdler could 511 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: be that guy. However, I don't think he's that guy 512 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: where Sam Donald could just throw it up and hope 513 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: for the best. He's not that type of player. But 514 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: he's really electric with the ball in his hands. So 515 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: I think it'll be interesting just to see the profile 516 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 1: of receiver that Joe Douglas and Adam Gaze and Sean 517 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: Jefferson and hinz Ward are looking for. That was another 518 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: edition of the Official Jets Podcast powered by Amazon Web Services. 519 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: E A, thanks a lot, and we'll talk to you later. 520 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 1: Thanks funny. Thanks