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Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Deal. I'm Jason Kelly alongside Alex Rodriguez.

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Speaker 2: All right, Alex, this is the time of year where

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Speaker 2: you know, I always love talking to you, but I

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Speaker 2: love talking to you about baseball this time of year

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Speaker 2: because it feels like the storylines get more and more serious.

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Speaker 2: We talked a little last week about sort of who's hot,

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Speaker 2: who's not. You know who may emerge as we get

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Speaker 2: closer and closer to October. But over the weekend there

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Speaker 2: were some inchting comments from Commissioner Rob Manfred about the

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Speaker 2: idea of expansion in Major League Baseball and with expansion

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Speaker 2: potentially realignment, And as is often the case, I see

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Speaker 2: these headlines and I think, all right, note to self,

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Speaker 2: ask Alex about this on the podcast, because you're the

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Speaker 2: expert on this and you see it from lots of

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Speaker 2: different perspectives, both as a former player, but I'll so

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Speaker 2: now as a team owner. I'll be it in a

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Speaker 2: different league. So when you hear about expansion, what are

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Speaker 2: your first thoughts, regardless of your role, Like, is expansion

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Speaker 2: a good idea from a business perspective in your view?

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Speaker 3: Yes, I think expansion is a great idea. I think

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Speaker 3: it's really important to see what the two teams would land.

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Speaker 3: I mean, to go from thirty to thirty two teams

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Speaker 3: to mirror the NFL. I think it's really smart, Jason,

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Speaker 3: Atlanta has a little bit of a monopoly in the South. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and you know that's your neck of the woods. You know,

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Speaker 3: people in the South are just maddling love with baseball.

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Speaker 3: Some of the best minor league teams and businesses are

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Speaker 3: City is an interesting I mean, they've done such an

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Speaker 3: incredible job with that franchise there. So yeah, I've always

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Speaker 3: wondered why does Atlanta have the South all by themselves?

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Speaker 1: And then other markets.

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Speaker 3: I know that Sacramento's thinking about putting their best foot

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Speaker 3: wherever they land, I think spend a really a lot

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Speaker 1: Where do we take these next two teams.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting on that note. You know, I was

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Speaker 2: thinking about it because I was looking at some of

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Speaker 2: the you know, potential city names. Nashville comes up a lot,

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Speaker 2: and I was thinking to your exact point this idea.

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Speaker 2: And listen, I grew up and still love the Braves,

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Speaker 2: as you know, by virtue of the geography, the minor

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Speaker 2: league system TBS, Ted Turner, I mean, they really had,

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Speaker 2: you know, such a they and still have such a

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Speaker 2: devoted following across the Southeast. The other thing that is

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Speaker 2: reflected in that, and I wanted to talk about realignment

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Speaker 2: this goes to the point of our conversation later with

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Speaker 2: Greg Olsen. The youth baseball culture in the South, it

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Speaker 2: is just much more of a sort of it's the

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Speaker 2: spring sport, whereas and I lived this as a dad

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Speaker 2: in the Northeast, is lacrosse Like lacrosse has like really

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Speaker 2: eaten up and eaten away at baseball. Now, there are

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Speaker 2: still some great programs, you know, out in Long Island,

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Speaker 2: baseball is life, man, I mean, and you just see

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Speaker 2: these great players, and you mentioned a lot of the

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Speaker 2: fans and Southern players are to baseball. So let me

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Speaker 2: ask you this question about realignment, because Manfred has at

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Speaker 2: that they're going to look, you have a little more

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Speaker 2: geographic consistency. What would that? I mean, does that make

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Speaker 2: sense to you? And now I'm almost asking you to

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Speaker 2: put it. I'm asking you to wear two hats. You know,

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Speaker 3: Yes, anytime the commissioner can make the game better for

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Speaker 3: it's been around well over one hundred years. You want

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Speaker 2: Is that my mind, Kelly right now is absolutely horrified

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Speaker 2: that you just said that, and unfortunately it's true.

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Speaker 3: But go on, yeah, she just said, objection your honor.

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Speaker 3: So what I would say is, as a fan, you

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Speaker 3: That's very fun and I wouldn't want to disrupt that.

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Speaker 3: At the same time, if you see less legacy issues,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's such a hard puzzle piece because

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Speaker 2: disrupting anything that threatens that history because that's part of

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Speaker 1: Well, I would tell you one way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's interesting. That's a really interesting point. Yeah, And

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Speaker 2: So on the subject of baseball, Little League World Series

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Speaker 2: And it's a really interesting conversation. You and he traded

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Speaker 2: You really love that. You always called me out for

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, coming up all that and more from

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Speaker 2: Greg Olsen. Welcome back to the dl IF Jason Kelly

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Speaker 2: alongside Alex Rodriguez. So excited to have with us as

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Speaker 2: of it today, Greg. Really, good to see you.

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Speaker 2: All right, so let's talk about some shared experiences here

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Speaker 3: I call him Magic Johnson. He's a little bit like Jason.

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Speaker 4: And it's the greatest compliment that you could pay a guy.

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Speaker 4: He has no ego, He is selfless as the day

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Speaker 2: To that exact point, Greg Lake, what is the thing

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Speaker 3: But talk to me about twenty fifteen twenty sixteen. What

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's a great question. I think a

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And you know, one thing that obviously you've talked

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Speaker 2: things that you've said before. But it does strike me

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Speaker 2: that a lot of people listening, you know, this is

436
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Speaker 2: a business audience, many people have encountered that exact same thing,

437
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,480
Speaker 2: where like someone else you know comes in, you know,

438
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Speaker 2: new guy coming into the company, a new man or

439
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Speaker 2: woman you know coming onto the team. What's your advice

440
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Speaker 2: for somebody having now gone through this who faces something similar,

441
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Speaker 2: Because you've handled it with a lot of grace, with

442
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Speaker 2: a lot of confidence, how did you sort of get

443
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Speaker 2: there and what would you say to people is the

444
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Speaker 2: best way to handle something like that?

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Speaker 4: I think in a lot of ways through this transition,

446
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Speaker 4: a lot of the lessons that I've tried to learn

447
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,440
Speaker 4: on the fly in the new industry have just been

448
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,160
Speaker 4: leaning on things that served me well in my former life,

449
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 4: which was as an athlete. And anyone who's lived in

450
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,359
Speaker 4: a competitive environment, and obviously Alex can speak to this

451
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 4: as good as anybody in history of sports. Like when

452
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Speaker 4: you compete at a high level and you have high

453
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Speaker 4: expectation and the expectations of you. There's only so many

454
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Speaker 4: people that have ever reached that level, right, and I,

455
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,200
Speaker 4: certainly from a playing career, didn't. But when it came

456
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Speaker 4: to this new chapter in my life, so many of

457
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:14,159
Speaker 4: the things of my former career paid dividends, and this

458
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,119
Speaker 4: was one of them. And I think the biggest lesson

459
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Speaker 4: what I would say to people is there's nothing wrong

460
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Speaker 4: with being incredibly competitive. There's nothing wrong with wanting to

461
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,199
Speaker 4: be the best player on the New York Yankees. But

462
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,680
Speaker 4: that doesn't mean that Derek Jeter has to go over.

463
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Speaker 4: That doesn't mean that the other players on your team

464
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 4: can't have a lot of success. So like that was

465
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 4: my career as a player, Like every year there were

466
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Speaker 4: guys drafted to take my position, and there were guys

467
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Speaker 4: on the offensive side of the ball who competed for

468
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Speaker 4: targets and catches and yards and all of that. And

469
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Speaker 4: my success did not have to mean their failure, and

470
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Speaker 4: their success didn't have to mean I couldn't be really

471
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Speaker 4: good either, And so I approached this world of TV

472
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Speaker 4: in really the same fashion, Like my expectations are to

473
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Speaker 4: be amongst the best people in the industry, and whatever

474
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,680
Speaker 4: game that is, there's a lot of moving parts outside

475
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Speaker 4: of your control. But what I control is I control

476
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Speaker 4: how hard I prepare, I control how much I know

477
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Speaker 4: about the sport of football, and I genuinely enjoy doing it.

478
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Speaker 4: And if there's someone else who comes along who also

479
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 4: is good, great, There's plenty of room for all of us.

480
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Speaker 4: And that's really just been my approach. And with Tom,

481
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Speaker 4: like I want Tom to do a great job. I

482
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 4: want Tom to have success. I root for Tom and

483
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,400
Speaker 4: Kevin like they're my friends, like they're people, they're my colleagues,

484
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,159
Speaker 4: they're my friends. I want them to have success. But

485
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 4: I still want to be regarded as being the best

486
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Speaker 4: in the industry. And that's not a knock on anyone else.

487
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Speaker 4: It's just the only way I know. And you know,

488
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Speaker 4: I'm sure no one knows it better than than Alex.

489
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Speaker 4: Like the expectations for a long time, or that Alex

490
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Speaker 4: is the best baseball player in Major League Baseball, and

491
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Speaker 4: then all of a sudden you go line up next

492
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Speaker 4: to Derek Jeter, who's at Icon in New York City.

493
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Speaker 4: That doesn't mean that Alex Rodriguez can't still be the

494
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Speaker 4: best baseball player in major in the world. Like it's

495
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Speaker 4: a very similar world where you say I can be

496
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Speaker 4: really good regards gardless of the people around me being

497
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Speaker 4: good or bad.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that, Greg.

499
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Speaker 3: And look, when you have a career like you've had,

500
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 3: where includes you know, doing some of the biggest games

501
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Speaker 3: in the NFL and includes an Emmy, and you know,

502
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 3: the principle brings it into the office, it's usually gonna

503
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 3: be like, hey, we're gonna double your pay and you're

504
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,679
Speaker 3: gonna be in the A team forever, and instead you

505
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 3: get the opposite. So I've often said that you can't

506
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Speaker 3: control what happens to you, but you certainly can control

507
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Speaker 3: how you react to those circumstances and those decisions.

508
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Speaker 1: What made you reads that mindset.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and this is something that people probably think I'm

510
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 4: a little crazy when we're coaching our kids' teams and

511
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 4: we're coaching football, and you know, I coach my son's

512
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Speaker 4: travel baseball team. Alex and I have talked a lot

513
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 4: of youth baseball in our past times crossing pats over

514
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Speaker 4: the years. I'm just a big believer, like, if we're

515
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 4: gonna do it, let's do it. Like if we're if

516
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Speaker 4: we're gonna spend all this time and energy, like I

517
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 4: just don't have a lot of understanding and patience for

518
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,360
Speaker 4: just participating and just being content to have the position.

519
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 4: I've always been of the mindset where I might not

520
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 4: always be the best. I certainly was never the best

521
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,120
Speaker 4: football player my entire life. I was never the best

522
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 4: NFL football player. At no time in my life was

523
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 4: I ever the best player on my team. Maybe in

524
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Speaker 4: high school, but in college and NFL, certainly I was

525
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 4: never the best player on my team. But I was

526
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Speaker 4: always the best player I could possibly be. There was

527
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 4: nothing more for me to do. If someone was better

528
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,120
Speaker 4: than me, they were just better than me. And it's

529
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,959
Speaker 4: the same thing now in the broadcast role. Whatever you

530
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Speaker 4: label us as the two crew, the B crew, the

531
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Speaker 4: one crew, they see whatever it is. If I'm gonna

532
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Speaker 4: do it, and I'm gonna spend all week and I'm

533
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 4: gonna travel the weekends, and we're gonna meet with these teams,

534
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,640
Speaker 4: like the expectation is, if we're gonna do it, we're

535
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Speaker 4: gonna do it with every intent to be the very

536
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Speaker 4: best at it. And that doesn't guarantee you will be

537
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Speaker 4: the best, and it doesn't guarantee you are perceived as

538
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 4: the best. But that is just the intent going forward

539
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 4: with everything you do in your preparation, your perform and

540
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 4: all that, and then the dust can settle from there.

541
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Speaker 4: And like I said, my approach as a player and

542
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Speaker 4: all the lessons that I learned to kind of punch

543
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Speaker 4: above my weight class as a player against better athletes, bigger,

544
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 4: stronger guys that I competed with. I try to bring

545
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 4: a lot of those same principles and approaches to now

546
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Speaker 4: my time on television.

547
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Speaker 2: You gave us a great segue into the youth sports business.

548
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Speaker 2: You know you are announcing or have recently announced a

549
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Speaker 2: new venture called you think for those watching on video

550
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 2: and YouTube, you've got some sick merch that you're wearing

551
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 2: right now that demonstrates that Alex and I are both

552
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 2: fascinated by this business. Having you know, played as kids,

553
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Speaker 2: being parents and having our kids play. What brought you

554
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Speaker 2: to the point that you wanted to go beyond coaching

555
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 2: your kids to really building a business around this.

556
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Speaker 4: Yes? What really, it's just been kind of the story

557
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 4: of my life. I grew up in North Jersey. My

558
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 4: dad was the local public high school football coach for

559
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 4: forty years. He coached me and all my brothers. It

560
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 4: was stereotypical local high school football, very intense, very driven,

561
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 4: high expectations. You know. Again, my two brothers and I

562
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 4: all three went on to play Major Division one football

563
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:20,199
Speaker 4: as a product because of that early accessibility towards camps

564
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 4: and coaching and leadership and all of those qualities we

565
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 4: learned at a young age growing up playing through my dad,

566
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Speaker 4: and then obviously I made a career out of it,

567
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 4: and now have come full circle where I'm the dad

568
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 4: and I'm raising two teenage boys and a teenage girl,

569
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 4: and they're all in their varying sports and levels of

570
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 4: interest and whatnot. And I find myself now coaching those

571
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 4: middle school teams and those girls basketball teams, and I'm

572
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 4: coaching travel baseball and trying to understand, Okay, how do

573
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 4: we best navigate this not only for my own kids,

574
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 4: but for the kids that we take responsibility for as

575
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 4: the coach, as members of our team. And We'd lay

576
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 4: in bed at night with my wife and I'd be like,

577
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 4: I'm not sure if we're doing this right. Like, I'm

578
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 4: not sure if we have it right? Does the world

579
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 4: have it right? There has to be a conversation out

580
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 4: there towards getting these families, best practices to navigating what

581
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 4: is a very different youth sports scene than what Alex

582
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 4: and I grew up in. Like it just it is

583
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 4: unrecognizable from ten to fifteen, twenty years ago. And that

584
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 4: was the content piece of You Think, And we're having

585
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,959
Speaker 4: Alex and I, through our friends at Fox, are actually

586
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 4: going to sit down and have a conversation. Alex has

587
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 4: been nice enough to agree to that and just talk

588
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 4: about best practices, best experiences. Tom Brady was our launch episode,

589
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 4: and we have Malcolm Gladwell, who's one of the greatest

590
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 4: thought leaders in the entire world, sociologists and psychologists and

591
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 4: different practices. We have a really wide birth of different

592
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 4: interview guests as well as other people creating content on

593
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 4: our platform to entertain, to inform, and to empower people

594
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 4: to have a better experience in youth sports. And then

595
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 4: the back real engine of the company is a commerce

596
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 4: platform trying to give people better experiences to represent their

597
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 4: son or daughter's youth foot both For us to buy

598
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 4: a Dallas Cowboy or a Carolina Panther hoodie or a

599
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 4: T shirt, it is as simple as going to fanatics.

600
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 4: You type it in and it drops. Why can't we

601
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 4: do that for the youth sports team. Why can't you

602
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 4: wear that polo you have and it has your son

603
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 4: or daughter's high school logo on it that you would

604
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 4: wear to go play golf or you'd wear to go

605
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 4: play launch. We're creating that ecosystem of the commerce on

606
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 4: the heels of acquiring our customers and bringing our consumers

607
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 4: in through a lot of our content pieces.

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Speaker 2: It's so interesting too. So I'm you know, I have

609
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 2: a son who I went through it from a lacrosse perspective.

610
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 2: So my son played you know, club lacrosse all through,

611
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 2: ended up playing in college, and so like the massive

612
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 2: ecosystem around youth sports. It's beyond, you know, by some measures,

613
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 2: forty billion dollar market, but it is broken up as

614
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 2: much as anything else. You know, we've had David Blitzer,

615
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 2: Josh Harris on this show. They obviously have their own

616
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Speaker 2: take on this through Unrivaled, which I know you're deeply

617
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Speaker 2: familiar with. How does this business for you grow? I mean,

618
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Speaker 2: and is this something that consolidates with other companies. I

619
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 2: know you're literally just launching it, but I know you've

620
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 2: thought about these things like take us inside the business plan.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not sure with the long term strategy. Again,

622
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 4: we are literally on like week one of this launch,

623
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 4: what's been a two year journey to get to this point.

624
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 4: You mentioned the Unrivaled guys, actually just sat down with

625
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 4: them up in Cooperstown. They obviously owned Cooperstown All Star Village.

626
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 4: They're a partner and a sponsor and are continuing to

627
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 4: do more and more things with us that you think

628
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 4: and obviously the projects that they're doing with cal Ripkin

629
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Speaker 4: Baseball and the Cooperstown trip that we just took my

630
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 4: twelve year old son's team to a couple of weeks ago,

631
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 4: so that we align in a lot of similar kind

632
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 4: of circles of those guys in Unrivaled that you just mentioned.

633
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Speaker 4: But I think big picture for us, if if we

634
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 4: had to kind of just summarize what we're trying to

635
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 4: do is we're trying to improve the experience of everyone

636
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 4: involved in youth sports. And there's a lot of ways

637
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 4: to do that, right. So there's the educational component. There's

638
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 4: teaching coaches and players best practices of running. Everything from

639
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 4: Alex Rodriguez telling us you know how to hit a

640
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 4: curveball to Ryan Day, you know on the heels of

641
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 4: a national champion telling us how do you get back

642
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 4: into the lab after having an incredible season, What does

643
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 4: off season strategy look like, how do you build a

644
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 4: coaching staff, how do you recruit in today's nil day,

645
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 4: Tom Brady and all these people giving very unique perspectives

646
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 4: to both inform and empower. But then there's also an

647
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 4: entertainment property. We have a lot of really fun, you

648
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 4: know content, you know series that are coming down the

649
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 4: pipeline that'll be more in the age of what everyone's

650
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 4: sons are kind of watching on YouTube and Instagram and

651
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Speaker 4: TikTok and whatnot. That we're excited about. The commerce piece

652
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 4: is the improving of experience of I want to represent

653
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 4: my son or daughter's team, and what I wear on

654
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 4: a Friday night to a football game or a Saturday

655
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 4: morning on a baseball field is very different experience getting

656
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 4: that pullover, that T shirt, those pair of shorts, then

657
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 4: what it would be for the University of Miami or

658
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 4: the Minnesota Timberwolves or whoever it is. It's a very

659
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 4: different experience, and we took a step back when we said, okay,

660
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 4: the infrastructure of that experience is very ingrained in people

661
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 4: and what they're used to in their daily activity. Why

662
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 4: don't we just to take those and apply it into

663
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 4: the youth sports sense, so now you can wear your

664
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 4: favorite team. Because for a lot of these parents, and

665
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 4: you guys know this, their favorite team is whatever team

666
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 4: their kid is playing for Monday through that's on the weekends,

667
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 4: that's what they're living for. So it seems like a

668
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,719
Speaker 4: real hole in the market that we feel like we

669
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 4: can attack and go after. And we feel pretty good

670
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 4: about the team we've put in place, the experience of

671
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 4: a lot of our founders and a lot of the

672
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 4: people we've brought on board, that we can execute the

673
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 4: content element and the commerce side, and we can do

674
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 4: it jointly, and obviously the expectation is that we can

675
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 4: make a dent in this market.

676
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 3: I have a bone to pick with, especially like youth basebon.

677
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 3: Maybe you can help me address this. Let's talk youth baseball.

678
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 3: I live youth baseball every day in my life, but

679
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 3: I'm so sick of it, honestly, And I'll tell you why.

680
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 3: You know, I come from a mother, you know, single mother.

681
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 3: She was a secretary of the morning, So at tables

682
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,719
Speaker 3: at night, we're fifteen, sixteen, seventeen hour days We'll leave

683
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 3: us seven in the morning and come home sometimes at

684
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 3: midnight on Fridays and Saturday. But I have so many

685
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 3: of my friends greg today that say, Alex, if you

686
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 3: were a kid today, if you were ten years old,

687
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 3: Alex Rodriguez would never make it to the big leagues.

688
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 3: And I would say, why, Well, because you and your

689
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 3: mother couldn't afford it. And the same parents are selling

690
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 3: their cars, they're having a double mortgage in their homes

691
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 3: to be traveling around this perfect game stuff and all

692
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 3: this nonsense. You have to make sports more affordable, and

693
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 3: it just drives me crazy.

694
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 4: You're one hundred percent right, and listen, I live this

695
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 4: every single day. I've coached both my boys teams. I

696
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 4: now just coach my twelve year team. We just spent

697
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 4: a week in Cooperstown. I wrote a check for thirty

698
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 4: thousand dollars to bring thirteen boys to Cooperstown, New York

699
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 4: for an entire week. My team from the beginning. Again,

700
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 4: everybody you know different to play on my team, you

701
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 4: pay me zero dollars. The only thing you got, Alex Rodriguez,

702
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 4: you're on my team. I got a spot for you.

703
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 4: If you've got some eligibility I could have on your

704
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 4: team then, as I was, you could have I think

705
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 4: you could afford Yes, I think you could afford my team.

706
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 4: You could probably buy our. But all that being said,

707
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 4: like you got to get yourself a bat and a

708
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 4: glove and a pair of cleats, and we'll take care

709
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 4: of everything else. And you know, tournament entry fees will

710
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 4: take care of everything else that comes along with it.

711
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 4: Like sports to me costs me money. Now I understand

712
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 4: for a lot of these organizations, for a lot of

713
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 4: these coaches, this is their full time job. Right There

714
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 4: is a professionalization of youth sports. There are professional youth

715
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 4: sports coaches. Their only job in the world is to

716
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 4: coach young athletes, both privately and they get paid to

717
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 4: coach their team. And I don't fault anybody for it.

718
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 4: There's a lot of really passionate people that spend their

719
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 4: entire day in the world of developing young athletes, especially

720
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 4: in baseball. But everything you said about the cost that

721
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 4: comes with it is one hundred percent the truth. There

722
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 4: are kids at twelve years old that are paying three

723
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 4: to five thousand dollars a year to play on one team.

724
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 4: They could show up to that team and have three

725
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 4: new players come from Miami, Florida, be given a uniform

726
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 4: and take the spot, paying nothing. But they've also flown

727
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,720
Speaker 4: to Atlanta, They've flown to Texas, They've flown to wherever

728
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 4: the tournament is. They've stayed in hotels, they've rented cars,

729
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 4: plus plus plus plus the five thousand dollars to play

730
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 4: on their team. It is a never ending cost that

731
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 4: if you want to participate in the Junior Showcase, there's

732
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 4: an element of costs that is a barrier to entry.

733
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Speaker 4: And I don't sit here pretending to know what the

734
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 4: fix is to that. Like anything, I feel like once

735
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 4: that ball starts rolling downhill, it's very hard to push

736
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 4: it back up. There is a lot of money to

737
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 4: make off the development of young athletes, and I try

738
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 4: not to be critical because I know there are a

739
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 4: lot of people that are doing it for the right reasons.

740
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 4: But there are a lot of people that are just

741
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 4: running business off of the idea of coaching and whatnot.

742
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 4: And it's just not the world that I come from.

743
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 4: We're coaching our kids middle school football team. I'm from

744
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 4: the world of youth coaches, being volunteer yours. Those days

745
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 4: are becoming very few and far between Alex and someone

746
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 4: with your voice in the space, someone with your you know, credibility,

747
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 4: your success obviously probably has a ton a ton of

748
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,959
Speaker 4: weight maybe to sway that pendulum back the other way.

749
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 4: But baseball, of all the sports that were in baseball,

750
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 4: has probably gone the furthest towards specialization, professionalization, high cost

751
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 4: of entry, and very very serious and competitive at the

752
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 4: earliest of ages.

753
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 3: Greg my first year, I'm gonna date myself here. I

754
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 3: was a rookie at eighteen years old for the Seattle Mariners,

755
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 3: playing with the goat Ken Griffith Junior, the great manager, Lupanela,

756
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 3: Randy Johnsenega Martinez, hall of famers galore all around. And

757
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 3: at that point there was about twenty to twenty five

758
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 3: percent of the league was African American, and today is

759
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 3: under five percent. And if you pull and I was

760
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 3: guessed because I don't have this data, but if you

761
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 3: go to inner cities, some of our greatest athletes in

762
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 3: the world are picking football, basketball, and soccer and you

763
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 3: know other sports because they truly just can't afford it.

764
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 3: And I bet you eighty percent of them if you

765
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 3: pulled them, they just say, we just can't afford to

766
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 3: try baseball, so we're going to go try something else.

767
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 1: And that's a problem.

768
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 3: And for Major League Baseball at the macro level, how

769
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 3: do you grow the tam of baseball is you got

770
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 3: to have the greatest athletes playing the sport. And thank god,

771
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 3: there's one great example that plays right here in New

772
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 3: York City. His name is Aaron Judge, who was recruited

773
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 3: by Notre Dame Stanford to be a tight end. And

774
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,720
Speaker 3: thank god for us and all of us who love baseball,

775
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 3: he chose baseball. But I guarantee you nine out of

776
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 3: ten are going to go to Notre Dame or Stanford

777
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 3: to play football.

778
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 4: Yep. Absolutely, And that's a great example of a kid

779
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 4: who maybe nowadays, growing up, he might be forced to

780
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 4: only play football or he might be forced to only

781
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 4: play baseball, and he doesn't have those experiences as a

782
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 4: high school player. And of course it's worked out for him.

783
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 4: He's an MLB All Star and an MVP. But there's

784
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 4: a lot of kids who the best time of their

785
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 4: sports career might be their senior year in high school.

786
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 4: And that's okay, Like, if the idea of playing baseball

787
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 4: as a young kid, if my kids only reason my

788
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 4: two boys played baseball, and they're both they're gonna be

789
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 4: in seventh and eighth grade. If their only reason for

790
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 4: playing baseball was to grow up to be Alex Rodriguez,

791
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 4: we should stop playing baseball. The odds of that happening

792
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,760
Speaker 4: are zero. I don't even know that the long shot

793
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 4: of that happening is close to zero. But there's so

794
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 4: many other experiences that come just from being on the

795
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 4: team competing in high school. Some of your best core

796
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 4: memories are playing at a young age as a young kid,

797
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 4: growing up with your buddies in the neighborhood. And I

798
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 4: think so often that is lost, where for so many

799
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 4: people the only objective of playing youth sports is to

800
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 4: either get a college scholarship or to become a professional.

801
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 4: And I'm not saying those aren't worthwhile aspirations and that

802
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 4: those aren't great goals, but I think if we keep

803
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 4: them as the only driving forces, we're missing so many

804
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 4: of the amazing other lessons in life, things that we

805
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 4: can carry forward into our marriages, into our parenting style,

806
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 4: into the ability to work with different people from different

807
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 4: backgrounds in the world. Like there are so many other

808
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 4: aspects of sport that teach people how to live in

809
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,240
Speaker 4: society more than just the ability to make a living

810
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 4: doing it.

811
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's totally true. And again, you know, having

812
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 2: lived this from a parent's perspective, you know, when you

813
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 2: actually start to do the math even and greg, you'll

814
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 2: appreciate this, especially as your your boys get older. You know,

815
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 2: the idea of like what you're spending and then you know,

816
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,240
Speaker 2: in pursuit of a college scholarship, like the math doesn't

817
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 2: even add up. You know, if you're spending you know,

818
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 2: like five ten thousand dollars, it's like, no, if what

819
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 2: you're really trying to do is pay for college, then

820
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 2: like put that money in a five twenty nine. But

821
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 2: if you go into it, and you know, not to

822
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 2: be too preachy about this, but like we said to

823
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 2: our son through all of high school, it's like, listen,

824
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 2: you are in this for so many other reasons than

825
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 2: playing in college or getting a college scholarship. And we

826
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 2: were very clear with him, it's like, if you wake

827
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 2: up tomorrow, you know and say, like, you know what,

828
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 2: I'm done with this, Like all of it was worth

829
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 2: it because of the extent exactly what you're saying, because

830
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 2: of the experience you had making these friends, learning how

831
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 2: to set goals, learning how to succeed, learning how to fail, win, lose,

832
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 2: all of that stuff.

833
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's funny and when you go into it

834
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 4: with the right driving forces at the start, and you're

835
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 4: not going into it to win as many games as

836
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 4: you can and to get a college scholarship. But you

837
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 4: go into it, especially from a coaching perspective, and you

838
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 4: can say, let's create a space of development, of accountability,

839
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 4: of growth, of like really strong program rules and alignment.

840
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 4: It's amazing how the goals that everyone wants you end

841
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 4: up at a lot of times a lot of the

842
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 4: kids reach them. But it's a byproduct of everything else.

843
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 4: Not everyone's going to go play college baseball, but everyone's

844
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 4: going to get all the great lessons and then ten

845
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 4: percent of them are going to go play college baseball.

846
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 4: Like at our kids school here in Charlotte, we have

847
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 4: a really good baseball program. We have a really good

848
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 4: football program too, but our baseball program has a bunch

849
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 4: of really young talented kids in the program. Small school,

850
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 4: but just very very good. In this last class, we're

851
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 4: sending kids to NC State. Our pitcher went to Wake Forest,

852
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 4: our shortstop got drafted into the fifth round last year

853
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 4: to the Orioles. We got some young kids that'll be

854
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 4: like high high level either draft picks or college Power

855
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 4: five kids. But it's because it's a program. They're playing

856
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 4: with their buddies. They've gone to school here since they

857
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 4: were in middle school. Like there's an element of growth

858
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 4: in saying, all right, I might want to wait my

859
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 4: turn till I'm a sophomore junior to play, but it'll

860
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 4: all be worth it. Like we are speeding up the

861
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:32,240
Speaker 4: process of development so fast these days that we're skipping

862
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 4: over so many steps. And if you don't become Alex Rodriguez,

863
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 4: or you don't get a college scholarship, for everybody else,

864
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 4: which is the vast majority, don't fit into that bucket.

865
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 4: You look back and say I didn't get anything else either,

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Speaker 4: like I missed all the other stuff that at least,

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Speaker 4: that's what's going on right now, and it's just getting

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Speaker 4: younger and younger.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna do our lightning round five questions. Just first

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Speaker 2: thing that jumps to your mind. I'll start, and then

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Speaker 2: Alex we'll pick up. All right, here we go. Best

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Speaker 2: piece of advice you've received on deal making your business?

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Speaker 4: Have a strong understanding of what you don't know. Surround

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Speaker 4: yourself with people who know a lot more than you,

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Speaker 4: and you're probably gonna be in good shape. If you're

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Speaker 4: the smartest guy in the room, it's a problem.

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Speaker 3: Who's your dream deal making partner?

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Speaker 4: I mean along the lines of what we're doing right now.

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Speaker 4: If you think you know, like a guy like Michael Rubin, right,

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Speaker 4: I mean what they've built at Fanatics understanding commerce and

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Speaker 4: I think he's brilliant in a lot of ways, but

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Speaker 4: I have a lot of respect for what he's built.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what a hustler. Which team do you want to

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Speaker 2: see win a championship more than any.

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Speaker 4: I'd like to see Miami, Miami Hurricanes. Hopefully Alex feels

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Speaker 4: me there big time. I'll take it in anything. I'll

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Speaker 4: take it in baseball, basketball, girls, basketball, football, I'll take

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Speaker 4: it in any But yeah, I'd like to see Miami

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Speaker 4: to get back to being what we all remember.

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Speaker 3: Let's keep it as a football and we have a

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Speaker 3: big opener against Notre Dame. Question number four here, what

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Speaker 3: is your hype song before a big meeting or negotiation?

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Speaker 4: So I'm a big king, I know you guys know

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Speaker 4: Kings of Leon of course the band. I just saw

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Speaker 4: him play in New York a couple of weeks ago

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Speaker 4: with Zach Bryant. A song there called Fans sa Ns

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Speaker 4: and it's just about check it out. It's a really

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Speaker 4: good all right.

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Speaker 2: That's good, all right. Last question, what's your advice for

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Speaker 2: someone listening who wants a career like yours.

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Speaker 4: The best thing that I've done in my career is

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Speaker 4: I've always just continued the art of learning, and the

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Speaker 4: art of curiosity, and the art of getting better. I

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Speaker 4: don't know if at any stagnant point in time I

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Speaker 4: was ever the best person at any given frozen moment.

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Speaker 4: I think my strength had been I never stopped getting

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Speaker 4: better for a really long period of time. And when

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Speaker 4: we stopped at the end and I looked around a

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Speaker 4: lot of people who were better than me early on,

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Speaker 4: I had passed by a long time ago. So I

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Speaker 4: think that the ability to improve indefinitely has always been

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Speaker 4: a strength of mind.

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Speaker 2: That's great, all right, Well, this was super, super fun.

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Speaker 2: We could literally do this all day. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: We really appreciate you, guys, Greg. That was awesome.

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Speaker 2: The Deal is hosted by Alex Rodriguez and me Jason Kelly.

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Speaker 2: This episode was made by Anamazarakus, Stacey Wong and Lizzie Phillip.

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Speaker 2: Amy Keen is our editor and Will Connelly is our

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Speaker 2: video editor. Our theme music is made by Blake Maples.

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Speaker 2: Our executive producers are Kelly Leferrier, Ashley Hoenig, and Brendan Newnham.

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Speaker 2: Sage Bauman is the head of Bloomberg Podcast. Additional support

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Speaker 2: from Rachel Carnivale and Elena sos Angeles. Thanks so much

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Speaker 2: rate and review our show. It'll help other listeners find us.

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