Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three, seventeen, Episode
Speaker 1: three of der Day's Guys Day production of iHeartRadio. This
Speaker 1: is a podcast where we take a deep dive into
Speaker 1: America's share consciousness. And it is Wednesday, December thirteenth, twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three.
Speaker 2: First of all, shout outs to.
Speaker 1: My younger sister Caitlin. It is her birthday.
Speaker 2: Kaylen, Hey, look, happy birthday. It's also National Violin Day.
Speaker 2: It's all these are runners up. Yeah to Caitlin's exactly.
Speaker 2: Also National Cocoa Day. I'm a big proponent of hot cocoa.
Speaker 2: Also National Day of the Horse. I don't know why
Speaker 2: it's called day day horse. That feels aggressive. It was
Speaker 2: the fucking day of the horse. And also Pick a
Speaker 2: Pathologist Day, which I'm not sure one I read. Pick one.
Speaker 1: Stop with the flirting with all the different pathologists. Pick
Speaker 1: a fucking pathologist.
Speaker 2: Okay, it just says, well, life is short, making friends
Speaker 2: with a pathologist or coroner may improve our outlook on life.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. What what is just created by lonely pathology?
Speaker 2: I think so it is they see some of the
Speaker 2: worst of the hills that can be follow us if
Speaker 2: they can be jovial, then rest asshired, living life to
Speaker 2: our fullest. Well we can maybe the key. Wow. Okay,
Speaker 2: that's an interesting thing.
Speaker 1: These national international days are so just like such a
Speaker 1: weird corner of humanity. It's like, I think we should
Speaker 1: have a day because we're kind of happy even though our.
Speaker 2: Job is set.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, get pick me, pick a podcaster, pick
Speaker 1: a peck of podcasters.
Speaker 2: That that should be a day if we could be jovial,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? The ship we have to
Speaker 2: see every day. Oh, come on exactly.
Speaker 1: Well, my name's Jack O'Brien ak menthol scrub. Won't chick
Speaker 1: come and burn away the flakes menthol scrub, won't chick
Speaker 1: come burn my face?
Speaker 2: So that courtesy a blanky hack Man scrub. Yeah, backing
Speaker 2: track for that one.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, and I'm thrilled to be joined as
Speaker 1: always by my co host and backing vocalist on the
Speaker 1: occasional AKA it.
Speaker 2: Is mister Miles Greg. Thank you, Miles Gray aka dead Kevin.
Speaker 2: Can't you see he got Mark Now he's in purgatory.
Speaker 2: Come on, Kevin, can't you hop with bandits? He's dead, Kevin?
Speaker 2: He's dead, Kevin Okay, that's how blooded by foreigner, my
Speaker 2: own kind of version there by Freudian quick because look,
Speaker 2: we're talking about home alone. Kevin Mcowisler is dead the
Speaker 2: whole time, y'all. Depending on how he's out. He may
Speaker 2: have a fever of one hundred and three. He may
Speaker 2: have that one, you know, that might have been how
Speaker 2: he went. Maybe that's why he's also scared of the
Speaker 2: fur basement in the basement, the basement because that thing
Speaker 2: looks hot. I think anyway, strongest fan theory for a
Speaker 2: seminole Christmas movie that will get you thinking.
Speaker 1: The whole time, I mean, second strongest behind I think
Speaker 1: the mom is actually the bread winner, which I found
Speaker 1: on Reddit is like one of the most popular on
Speaker 1: Reddit fan theories of the past year.
Speaker 2: She's paying for the trip because she's a fashion I
Speaker 2: guess that changes.
Speaker 1: It's not a fan theory, that's just, you know, something
Speaker 1: that's entirely possible. First on the facts that we've been given, Miles,
Speaker 1: we are thrilled to be joined in our third seats
Speaker 1: by an activist and author of the new book The
Speaker 1: Risk It Takes to Bloom. She's also the host of Afterlives,
Speaker 1: which is a new podcast series honoring the lives of
Speaker 1: trans folks Stolen too Soon. So much stuff dropping all
Speaker 1: at the same time. She's very busy. Please welcome to
Speaker 1: the show.
Speaker 2: Rockow Will else. Yeah, not much.
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 2: Oh no, thanks good have you?
Speaker 1: Thank you for making time, like in the middle of
Speaker 1: a book tour, in the middle of like dropping a
Speaker 1: new podcast.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 3: I mean, this is gonna be my ray of light
Speaker 3: because I've been dropping really heavy stuff. Yeah, so this
Speaker 3: is like y'all are going to lighten the mood for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, we're gonna have fun. We're here to.
Speaker 1: Talk about home alone fan theories, l light in your
Speaker 1: load a little bit.
Speaker 2: Where you come to us from? Where? I mean, I
Speaker 2: know where you're I know where you're coming to us from.
Speaker 3: For the listener, I'm in Brooklyn. It's you know, it
Speaker 3: feels like home now. But I'm really a Georgia girl,
Speaker 3: so I wrap the South as much as possible.
Speaker 2: What is how is like the holiday? Are you going
Speaker 2: to Georgia for the holidays? Are you staying? Are people
Speaker 2: coming to you? What's your holiday plan?
Speaker 3: Nobody comes to me, which is now I'm like, okay,
Speaker 3: they need to so we need to work on that
Speaker 3: for twenty twenty four. But I'm always the one traveling
Speaker 3: the next day labor. But I'm usually between Georgia closer
Speaker 3: to Atlanta. So I'm from Augusta, which is like two
Speaker 3: hours away from Atlanta. But my sister lives outside of Atlanta,
Speaker 3: and then my mom and my brother live in Tennessee,
Speaker 3: so I'm usually between the outchirch of Atlanta and Nashville.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I can't think of too many holiday
Speaker 1: movies that take place in Tennessee or Georgia, but I
Speaker 1: can think of quite a few that take place in
Speaker 1: New York. I'm just saying New York's kind of a
Speaker 1: magical place.
Speaker 2: For the holidays.
Speaker 1: Maybe the family needs to start thinking about how how
Speaker 1: much how much magic can be packed into a New
Speaker 1: York holiday vacation.
Speaker 3: It's true, I mean New York is you know, it
Speaker 3: can be a winter.
Speaker 2: Wonderland every like three years, right, Like.
Speaker 3: I've learned since I've been here the last like five
Speaker 3: years that You're not actually gonna get nice snow each year.
Speaker 3: Like I'm just gonna have to deal with the brisk,
Speaker 3: freezing cold sometimes, right, and be.
Speaker 1: Okay with that little pellets of ice spit in your
Speaker 1: face sometimes or that's slush too, like the snow stays
Speaker 1: nice for fifteen seconds. How do you what New Yorkers?
Speaker 2: I mean, because I know, you know, like New Yorkers
Speaker 2: like to have their sneakers looking nice, their tyms looking nice,
Speaker 2: Like do you just have to have like a pair
Speaker 2: like when it's like they're like, there's no fucking way
Speaker 2: I keep you it's fucked up out there, so I
Speaker 2: need to wear my like rain boots or something. What
Speaker 2: I'm from l A. You know, it's so dry. There's
Speaker 2: like I wish I knew the what it was like
Speaker 2: to have to, you know, navigate a puddle, but I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: Well, there are snow boots, so I have, like I
Speaker 3: definitely have like the big kind of like snow boots,
Speaker 3: which are like the moon boots, but not like necessarily
Speaker 3: for fashion.
Speaker 2: There their functility. Yeah, I don't know if folks.
Speaker 3: Are going out in their TEMs when the snow is
Speaker 3: like several inches high.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but sometimes it stays like the snow stays,
Speaker 1: you know, there's like rifts on the side of the
Speaker 1: avenue and just like big slush puddles, and I have
Speaker 1: had the experience of like when I was a burgeoning,
Speaker 1: like sneaker head, I had a new pair of dunks
Speaker 1: on and stepped in a puddle up to like my
Speaker 1: shin and it was one, oh so bad.
Speaker 2: They were just different.
Speaker 1: Colors from that point forward, right right right, Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was bad, but it was like the it was the
Speaker 1: consistency of a slushie.
Speaker 2: So it was also you know, oh yeah, like you
Speaker 2: stepped in a bucket of slurpy. Basically yeah, yeah, wo
Speaker 2: my ass up to that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't do that, all right, Rall, We're gonna get
Speaker 1: to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
Speaker 1: a couple of stories we're talking about. We're going to
Speaker 1: talk about Texas's fucked up abortion laws. We're going to
Speaker 1: talk about the demon weed come for Ohio your brains.
Speaker 1: Oho Burger King is getting in on the human dog
Speaker 1: bed trend, So we're just gonna talk about that trend.
Speaker 1: I feel like it could be taken further. We'll talk
Speaker 1: about that plenty more. But first, Raquel, we do like
Speaker 1: to ask our guests, what is something from your search
Speaker 1: history that is revealing about.
Speaker 2: Who you are?
Speaker 3: The Only thing I can think of is that I
Speaker 3: went out to eat with one of my friends the
Speaker 3: other day and I had to search what is what
Speaker 3: is the sushi that's a taco but not really a
Speaker 3: taco and it's tamaki because it's like the open face
Speaker 3: like sushi. But I didn't know what it was.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, so you're talking about just the little
Speaker 1: bed of rice with the sushi on top.
Speaker 2: Of it, but it's like wrapped in the seaweed but like,
Speaker 2: oh okay, like a hand roll.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like a foodie, but like I don't always
Speaker 3: have the right names for stuff. So I'm like, okay, well,
Speaker 3: what is the sushi kind of taco hybrids?
Speaker 2: It looks like an ice cream cone filled with fish, right,
Speaker 2: it does? And it was good.
Speaker 3: I mean, we went to the place and it was amazing.
Speaker 2: There's a there's like a place in LA that's just
Speaker 2: all hand rolls that I know, Like I don't know
Speaker 2: if I'm sure they have that kind of west right, yeah,
Speaker 2: and like they have it by the I forget the
Speaker 2: name anyway, but yeah, timuki is like my one of
Speaker 2: my favorites. Usually you eat it at the end, like
Speaker 2: when you have like a sushi meal, because like the
Speaker 2: mentality is you like it's it's meant to be the
Speaker 2: closing sushi that you eat to make sure like oh oh,
Speaker 2: so you think you're full now, well then try this
Speaker 2: one and now go home, get down. Yeah, that's why
Speaker 2: I like the philosophy behind it. It's like no hit
Speaker 2: hit yourself with the big one at that end.
Speaker 1: Is there a study of food that like passes through
Speaker 1: you at like different speed, the speed at which you
Speaker 1: go from full to not full anymore? Because sushi, I
Speaker 1: can eat myself to like stuffed to the like very
Speaker 1: bottom of my esophagus, like I can feel the sushi
Speaker 1: down there, and then like be hungry an hour and
Speaker 1: a half later, whereas like Thanksgiving dinner or something like that,
Speaker 1: I'm done, like I'm cooked, Like, yeah, it's just stuck.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is.
Speaker 2: Korean food also goes right through me. I feel. I
Speaker 2: feel like it's a.
Speaker 1: Lot of the foods from Asian countries that.
Speaker 2: Are like that. You're able to eat a ton. I
Speaker 2: mean it's probably able.
Speaker 1: To eat a ton and then be hungry at like
Speaker 1: the next time a meal rolls around you. Look, we
Speaker 1: like to eat, man, we like to Yeah, so we're
Speaker 1: not gonna get slowed down.
Speaker 2: And I think I don't know. I mean, I know
Speaker 2: the same way. I think a lot of it, Like
Speaker 2: when eating sushi. There's also the part of it you're like,
Speaker 2: how much fucking money is this costing? So like you
Speaker 2: can't I mean, unless you want to really go there,
Speaker 2: like you could. I'm I'm sure you could eat that amount,
Speaker 2: but I'm sure there's also like a psychological effect of like, Okay,
Speaker 2: do I get another fifteen dollars thing and see if
Speaker 2: that will do it, you know what I mean, versus
Speaker 2: like what fifteen bucks gets me a chipotlet or something.
Speaker 2: I think there's that part of it too. I don't
Speaker 2: know if anyone's eating to their full potential.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean starches make you feel right, and
Speaker 3: they fiber stuff, I think, but I feel like it's
Speaker 3: like things that are super fatty or whatever, like they
Speaker 3: make you want more because like if I eat bacon,
Speaker 3: I never want to stop, you know. It's like if
Speaker 3: I eat like pork belly or something, I never want
Speaker 3: to stop. I want to keep going.
Speaker 2: Oh you so you like the like the luxurious kind
Speaker 2: of juicy, fatty parts of I look when you said
Speaker 2: bacon and pork belly. It's the same part, but we're
Speaker 2: doing it different ways. And I'm like, I love I.
Speaker 1: Say the number one food for like what I'm talking
Speaker 1: about is pancakes, because pancakes you eat them and then
Speaker 1: get less and less hungry after you've eaten them as
Speaker 1: they expand in your stomach, you know. Oh right, right,
Speaker 1: Like I get more and more full, like even after
Speaker 1: I've eaten them. Right, So, like there is a science
Speaker 1: that I'm sure like chefs and culinary artists pay attention
Speaker 1: to it, like, Okay, this is how it's gonna feel
Speaker 1: going down, but also like once you've eaten it, because
Speaker 1: you do have like taste buds in your stomach. You know,
Speaker 1: that's that's a part of There's definitely stuff that when
Speaker 1: you eat it or drink it, it's like, oh, I
Speaker 1: liked it when I was having it in my mouth,
Speaker 1: but then like there's just something about it that fucks
Speaker 1: me up once it's in my stomach.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: Wisdom, what Raquel? What is something you think is overrated?
Speaker 3: What do I think is overrated? Oh, at the risk
Speaker 3: of being political, the Democratic Party risk it.
Speaker 2: It's a mess.
Speaker 3: It's a mess. I mean, it's been a mess. But
Speaker 3: like I can't I can't with these folks who are
Speaker 3: like blue no matter who, like that kind of man.
Speaker 2: I'm just like, no, we it does matter. It actually does, right,
Speaker 2: That's I mean. I think a lot of peop don't
Speaker 2: realize it's a you are in a very luxurious, privileged
Speaker 2: position if you have the philosophy of I vote blue
Speaker 2: no matter who. Yeah, because there's so many factors around
Speaker 2: a political candidate or what a party's platform is. I
Speaker 2: mean we talk about this a lot on the show
Speaker 2: because we're very critical. We're like, you have to give
Speaker 2: us better options than this now, because like you can't
Speaker 2: keep promising folks certain things and then just like just
Speaker 2: ghost like you forgot about it. Yeah, you're like, no,
Speaker 2: we didn't forget about existential threats. What are you talking about? Like,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to drop these issues, but yeah, they
Speaker 2: did just feel a little bit like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's like those are the same folks who
Speaker 3: have the critique of conservatives that vote for any of
Speaker 3: the riff raft that they have. So I'm like, come
Speaker 3: on now, right, yeah, get what the program.
Speaker 2: I know. And I think there's a part of it
Speaker 2: too that.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: There's another thing. You always hear people be like, oh,
Speaker 2: so you want Trump to win. It's like, yeah, no,
Speaker 2: I don't want Trump to win. I'm telling you. I'm
Speaker 2: I'm saying, as a party that's courting someone's vote, you
Speaker 2: have to offer some someone. Just like sales. You can't
Speaker 2: be like you buy this piece of ship or else
Speaker 2: you gonna die. It's like, hold on like this, that's
Speaker 2: not how this transaction work. Car clearly hates you, but
Speaker 2: you have to buy it, and it will lie, it
Speaker 2: will say the tank is full, it's already. So yeah,
Speaker 2: and it's it's really about want. It's about saying like
Speaker 2: we deserve better as human beings, and the status quo
Speaker 2: is not good enough. So if you're coming with I'm
Speaker 2: here to maintain the status quote, guess what. The status
Speaker 2: quote is deadly to many people. So that's the thing
Speaker 2: I think more people could wrap their head around. It's
Speaker 2: not I'm trying. I don't want Trump to win. I
Speaker 2: don't want to. But okay, do you want you want
Speaker 2: me to get you a mega hut? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, when the glass my gosh, Okay, New York Times
Speaker 4: op ed writer, that's right, Yeah, but I mean, is
Speaker 4: there what do you is there specifically, like what are
Speaker 4: you looking at?
Speaker 2: And you know what's kind of getting you?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I'm definitely just, I guess pissed off.
Speaker 3: Not I guess I definitely am pissed off in this
Speaker 3: moment where all of the discourse coming out of what's
Speaker 3: happening to Palestinian folks is like that doesn't matter. Just
Speaker 3: just listen to the propaganda we're throwing at you. And
Speaker 3: it's like, no, people haven't have had real gripes about
Speaker 3: everything from student loans to the increased you know, issues
Speaker 3: around abortion not be access not being codified into law,
Speaker 3: and on and on, and you can't, you especially can't
Speaker 3: just tell people don't care about almost like twenty thousand
Speaker 3: folks being slaughtered right right with our life, Like that
Speaker 3: has to be a deal breaker, right, right, things should
Speaker 3: have been.
Speaker 2: But it is odd to be like I want to
Speaker 2: lead the country. I'm like, Okay, do you have like
Speaker 2: a good heart? Like ignore those deaths, right, that's.
Speaker 3: Ignore the money that we're throwing at it. That's also
Speaker 3: your money.
Speaker 2: Right, but don't think about Yeah, And I think and
Speaker 2: that's what's like, I think just it's a very interesting
Speaker 2: time because the Democrats they're struggling with like trying to
Speaker 2: sell Bidenomics, They're struggling with what to do with voters
Speaker 2: who are completely unsatisfied, upset about our foreign policy right now,
Speaker 2: especially as it relates to Gaza, and you know, like
Speaker 2: you're the they have a lot on their plate. But
Speaker 2: it feels like the easiest thing, which is so funny,
Speaker 2: is you just need to move a little bit away
Speaker 2: from the status quo and you will be saying things
Speaker 2: that resonate with many people, like if like, for example,
Speaker 2: just talking really forcefully about certain things as it relates
Speaker 2: to you know, codifying Roe v. Wade, or actual tangible
Speaker 2: reforms to how we do policing in this country, or
Speaker 2: tangible reforms to our social safety programs, like those are
Speaker 2: the kinds of things that people really pay attention to
Speaker 2: or they experience every day, rather than like you know,
Speaker 2: like how wages are getting compressed or whatever macroeconomic terms
Speaker 2: are being thrown around at people and then being told, oh,
Speaker 2: so you want Trump to win. You don't like Bidenomics,
Speaker 2: Like no, I'm people are struggling and they want to
Speaker 2: find a way that feels like they aren't anymore.
Speaker 1: And the fact that they're doing it so much as
Speaker 1: a oh you like, you know, you want Trump to
Speaker 1: win is essentially the whole strategy, and therefore like we
Speaker 1: don't have to give you these things that you need
Speaker 1: that you've been asking for, that we could give you
Speaker 1: in many cases, right is it's just so cynical, and
Speaker 1: it assumes that people don't notice that that's what they're doing,
Speaker 1: you know, right, yeah, And.
Speaker 3: We've been hearing that the last three presidential elections, Oh
Speaker 3: you want trumple in? I mean, even with the critiques
Speaker 3: of Hillary in twenty sixteen, right, you know, or of
Speaker 3: course in twenty twenty, and then now it's like y'all
Speaker 3: got to get some new folks up in the megs, like,
Speaker 3: let's get some new messages going because this is not working.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's wild that they still think they can keep
Speaker 2: playing people for votes and not deliver and then like
Speaker 2: when it doesn't work, then start turning up on people like, oh,
Speaker 2: so you want the opposite. It's like, excuse me, Uh,
Speaker 2: can I run back the tape of the things you
Speaker 2: said the last election campaign and how you went almost
Speaker 2: one to eighty on a lot of that stuff.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about my hands are tied man,
Speaker 1: and I president of the United States.
Speaker 2: And that's what can I do. And it's true, right,
Speaker 2: there are instances where the president can't just push those
Speaker 2: things through, and so you have like this very you
Speaker 2: have this kind of vague middle ground to be like, well,
Speaker 2: you know, I tried, but also like I can't. But
Speaker 2: also I'm kind of saying I can't. It's it's yeah,
Speaker 2: it's it's confusing, and it's frustrating, and people are like
Speaker 2: looking at real like, you know, people need real help.
Speaker 2: And if if it doesn't feel like it's coming, how
Speaker 2: are we gonna get excited about a candidate? Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's gonna be real.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a fun twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, to just the people literally bullshit, Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a very exhausting time. What is
Speaker 1: something Raquel that you think is underrated?
Speaker 2: That show Rap Shit? Do y'all watch that?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 2: Is that the Ratio?
Speaker 3: The Race show on Max? I wish it got as
Speaker 3: much attention as Insecurity, But I love rap Shehit, and
Speaker 3: I love that it follows these two girls who are
Speaker 3: basically modeled after the City girls, and there's like one
Speaker 3: girl who like is like, you know, she's really got
Speaker 3: the flow, and then the other girl is like the
Speaker 3: hype person, right, but they're kind of reverse from Jays
Speaker 3: and Kresha, which I think is cool too.
Speaker 2: But I love the show. I think it's just it's dope,
Speaker 2: and I just wish more people talked about this, yeah,
Speaker 2: because it's in it's what second. I remember watching the
Speaker 2: first couple episodes of the first season and like really
Speaker 2: liking it. But I'm so bad at like finishing shows
Speaker 2: because there's so many shows that come out and I'm like,
Speaker 2: that's right, rap, shit, that's right these other shows. And
Speaker 2: the second season has been really good too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean, why don't you support black women
Speaker 3: for the long?
Speaker 2: Oh wow, put me off with me in that hot seat?
Speaker 2: No way, not today, No, I'm just with you. No.
Speaker 2: But it's been good.
Speaker 3: It's I think it's dope to just kind of watch
Speaker 3: it and I don't know, and I think I would
Speaker 3: like to see more of a comment area on the
Speaker 3: Wrap ecosystem for like women right right now. Yeah, of course,
Speaker 3: NICKI just dropped Pink Friday too, and so I'm curious
Speaker 3: what a character based off of Nicki would look like
Speaker 3: in that context too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and are they prepared for Nicky's response to being
Speaker 2: portrayed as a character. That's the thing, right, Yeah, NICKI
Speaker 2: is a character, right, I mean it's just like one
Speaker 2: of those I mean, I feel like we're always saying this,
Speaker 2: especially about like black lead shows, is the marketing is
Speaker 2: always just like what where's the where the billboards? Where
Speaker 2: are the advertisements? Because like half the time it's like
Speaker 2: all through you know, like social networking or whatever that
Speaker 2: you're hearing about shows and rather than like the traditional
Speaker 2: we're gonna smash this message into your head with like
Speaker 2: NonStop advertisements on YouTube, on like websites or whatever. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the only one that's that has got the full
Speaker 3: push behind it is Avid Elementary, right, Like that's the
Speaker 3: only one. I felt like in recent years that's just
Speaker 3: like people have been like we're going to elevate this
Speaker 3: and exhaust this, and like they're getting awards. I got
Speaker 3: to meet Sheryl Lee Ralph a few months.
Speaker 2: Ago, and she was sold out. She seems like the
Speaker 2: kind of person when she seems like she's the same
Speaker 2: person that you see like on screen, but like a
Speaker 2: human version in real life too. Is that kind of
Speaker 2: the p energy. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean she's just like encouraging Auntie and just like
Speaker 3: with the shits and everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like that show was such a hit
Speaker 1: that like they couldn't fucking they couldn't not market it
Speaker 1: and like put it out in front.
Speaker 2: But yeah, rap shit.
Speaker 1: I remember seeing the preview at the end of insecurity,
Speaker 1: like they were they were like, and this is the
Speaker 1: next thing, this is the next thing to watch.
Speaker 2: And I saw that one preview.
Speaker 1: I've never heard about it again until just right now.
Speaker 2: So okay check this out. Yeah, I fully Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then of course, you know, Beyonce is very underrated,
Speaker 3: So do you see the movie?
Speaker 2: Of course I was.
Speaker 3: It was great, fabulous.
Speaker 2: I enjoyed it.
Speaker 3: I enjoyed the process of like seeing her create it,
Speaker 3: and I mean just the way that they kind of
Speaker 3: take you through the show and then she she does
Speaker 3: include some moments of imperfection, you know, but it's still Beyonce,
Speaker 3: so it's still like perfect imperfection, right right right. It's like, yes,
Speaker 3: all the sounds, all the sound went off in the
Speaker 3: in the studio or in the stadium when you are
Speaker 3: in it, but you also just still look flawless.
Speaker 7: And hit every mark so right, still made it work.
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, wow, So that was encouraging as Beyonce. As
Speaker 7: the Virgo does, as the Virgo dies.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break and we'll come
Speaker 1: back and hit some news story. We'll be right back,
Speaker 1: and we're back, And there's a lawsuit that was getting
Speaker 1: intention in Texas over their horrifying abortion laws.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Real, insidious, fucked up, confusing, cruel, every I mean,
Speaker 2: whatever word you want to use. So this woman, Kate Cox,
Speaker 2: had the misfortune of being alive in Texas basically at
Speaker 2: a time where the laws are draconian and confusing, except
Speaker 2: for the fact that they're basically intended to punish people
Speaker 2: for exercising any kind of bodily autonomy. And you know,
Speaker 2: she's had two children with her husband, and then tragically,
Speaker 2: her most recent pregnancy was complicated with this diagnosis of
Speaker 2: trisomy eighteen, which is an untreatable lethal genetic anomaly. And
Speaker 2: so in any humane state, you know, this Kate Cox
Speaker 2: would be free to have an abortion and bring an
Speaker 2: end to a very painful medical personal saga. But since
Speaker 2: she's in Texas, she had to be the first person
Speaker 2: since Roe versus Wade in nineteen seventy three to sue
Speaker 2: in order to request permission for the procedure, and so
Speaker 2: I'm just like the rest of the story kind of
Speaker 2: plays like this, because there's like a lot of back
Speaker 2: and forth where we end up with just like it's
Speaker 2: just you're like, what the fuck is going on? So
Speaker 2: she sued, and the Travis County District Judge Maya Gara
Speaker 2: Gamble issued a temporary restraining order on the grounds that
Speaker 2: Cox's life was in fact her life and ability to
Speaker 2: have children were at risk. So she was like, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm issuing this temporary restraining order. Hours later,
Speaker 2: the legendary piece of crap ag Ken Paxton gets involved.
Speaker 2: I don't know how he's still in office, like with
Speaker 2: all these investigations and his shit. Anyway, he gets involved
Speaker 2: and claims that Cox actually acted illegally under Texas law
Speaker 2: and warned the hospitals and doctors involved with her care
Speaker 2: that they would be opened a felony prosecution. So they're like,
Speaker 2: oh shit, Okay. Then, so at that point Cox said
Speaker 2: I'm off this. She flees the state to go have
Speaker 2: the abortion because she wasn't willing to wait for the
Speaker 2: courts to decide her basically her fate, And while this
Speaker 2: was happening, Paxton then petitioned the state Supreme Court and
Speaker 2: they a few days later, the Supreme Court overturned the
Speaker 2: lower court's decision. And this is the really fucked up part, right.
Speaker 2: They overturned the decision not because they don't think she
Speaker 2: needs the care, but because their sort of cheatment is, well,
Speaker 2: she just messed up by trying to sue her way
Speaker 2: into an abortion. They said, quote, a woman who meets
Speaker 2: the medical necessity exception need not seek a court order
Speaker 2: to obtain an abortion. Under the law, it is a
Speaker 2: doctor who must decide that a woman is suffering from
Speaker 2: a life threatening condition during pregnancy, raising the necessity for
Speaker 2: an abortion to save her life or to prevent impairment
Speaker 2: of a major bodily function. The law leaves it. The
Speaker 2: law leaves to physicians, not judges, both the discretion and
Speaker 2: the responsibility to exercise there. This is the key phrase here,
Speaker 2: reasonable medical judgment, right, given the unique facts and circumstances
Speaker 2: of each patient. So they're saying, hey, we're not trying
Speaker 2: to meddle in a doctor's decision. Are you look like
Speaker 2: the bad guy? Here, what's your fucking problem? Now you're
Speaker 2: making me angry? Oh my, well, now I don't know
Speaker 2: what to do. Now now I'm teed off. Because really,
Speaker 2: as long as the doctor is using their reasonable medical judgment,
Speaker 2: like then everything is all good. It almost makes you
Speaker 2: feel like it's a good thing. But the term is
Speaker 2: so problematically vague. It's essentially like daring doctors to perform
Speaker 2: an abortion, since a judge technically can't give permission or
Speaker 2: give guarantees to a doctor or hospital that they will
Speaker 2: not be like, there will not be legal penalties for this.
Speaker 2: But that way, the doctors could very easily go from
Speaker 2: fucking around and entering the find out phase if a
Speaker 2: prosecutor just feels the urge to pursue charges. So it's
Speaker 2: like this very very like it's just such a cat
Speaker 2: twenty two of cruelty that, yeah, this is all happening
Speaker 2: against this backdrop. Luckily, from what we've heard, she's had
Speaker 2: her procedure, she's recovering, and it's just unfortunate that she,
Speaker 2: you know, had to go all through all of this
Speaker 2: just for the court to come background and be like, well, actually,
Speaker 2: I don't know if you actually have any to say
Speaker 2: so and what to do with your own body.
Speaker 1: I told them to go ahead and make my day.
Speaker 1: There was a very friendly thing for me to do
Speaker 1: when I said that, you know, ignoring the fact that
Speaker 1: I was holding a giant gun on.
Speaker 3: Them is basically yeah, yeah, I mean, it's I mean,
Speaker 3: it's so disgusting the the fights from conservatives to keep
Speaker 3: people from owning what happens to their body. And even
Speaker 3: with the evidence that there are life threatening situations where
Speaker 3: this is necessary care like abortion access is necessary. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they're still so callous in their attacks on folks, and
Speaker 3: it's just annoying. I mean. And these are also the
Speaker 3: same folks, especially in Texas, that are saying, you know,
Speaker 3: trans function have access to healthcare that impacts our lives,
Speaker 3: right right that I mean Ken Paxson is one of
Speaker 3: the same officials that basically called for investigating families that
Speaker 3: are affirming of trans youth.
Speaker 2: Right. So, these folks are disgusting.
Speaker 3: But I think these moments are opportunities for us to
Speaker 3: understand how so many of these attacks are intersect with
Speaker 3: each other absolutely, you know, and those down ballid races.
Speaker 3: I know, we were harping on the presidential part of
Speaker 3: the elections coming up, But these down ballid races really matter,
Speaker 3: especially in these states, these battleground.
Speaker 2: States, because yeah, like for I'm sure a lot of
Speaker 2: politicians too, it's like they're running in like maybe a
Speaker 2: purple district, don't want to be forceful about talking about
Speaker 2: reaffirming body autonomy for whether that's for people seeking abortions
Speaker 2: or gender affirming care whatever. They don't want to they
Speaker 2: don't want to wade into that, and they don't say
Speaker 2: anything or say like they don't want to touch an
Speaker 2: issue like that. But when we don't have people advocating
Speaker 2: for these rights, it's these kinds of like you have
Speaker 2: to think that these are the realities that lived outcomes
Speaker 2: for people when we don't have our representatives advocating for
Speaker 2: all of us to make sure that we're saying, well,
Speaker 2: here's a baseline of care that we have to establish
Speaker 2: for every person, or these are the basic human rights
Speaker 2: that you have. And so when you don't say things
Speaker 2: like that to me, I'm hearing you don't care if
Speaker 2: people lose their lives, or you don't care if people
Speaker 2: aren't able to live their life in the way that
Speaker 2: gives them the most peace and most happiness. And the
Speaker 2: most fulfilling and yeah, like I think that's where some
Speaker 2: people it's easy to maybe brush aside sort of issues
Speaker 2: like this, but it they translate into real life tragedy,
Speaker 2: like tragic stories like this where a woman is like
Speaker 2: asking a court if like she can save her own
Speaker 2: life and they're like, well, yeah, I mean, but you
Speaker 2: didn't ask the right way. Yeah, but I guess, and
Speaker 2: then they have to go. In one of the articles,
Speaker 2: it is wow to hear how it was described as
Speaker 2: she had to go to a free state to get
Speaker 2: an abortion, and I'm like, whoa, my god, we're using
Speaker 2: this kind of language again. Okay, okay, so why did
Speaker 2: you go to why did you go to the courts?
Speaker 2: You're acting hysterically, You're right, what are you doing? Just
Speaker 2: talk to your doctor, who we will sue and put
Speaker 2: in prison. It's the doctor who is the one that
Speaker 2: will determine it, not the legislators who created these laws
Speaker 2: like made it illegal. What are you talking with You're
Speaker 2: just being You're you're being crazy. Yeah, that's what that's
Speaker 2: what it feels.
Speaker 1: That's his energy is there will there be a wave
Speaker 1: of these people like getting kicked out of office, like
Speaker 1: what once because because it is like bodily autonomy is
Speaker 1: such a pop like a winning political issue. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: are well, when is this motherfucker back up for you know,
Speaker 1: to like it feels like a with an easy thing
Speaker 1: for the Democratic the Democrats to win on. Now obviously
Speaker 1: they're able to fuck up an easy election like it's
Speaker 1: their job, but does.
Speaker 2: Feel like I don't know, hopefully there will be these
Speaker 2: people will be swept out of office, like as it
Speaker 2: becomes as their record on like restricting body autonomy, yeah,
Speaker 2: come reaches the ballot. It's a tough one. I feel
Speaker 2: like on some cases, when you have something like a
Speaker 2: ballot proposition or something that changes like the state's constitution,
Speaker 2: it's easy for everybody to be like yeah, yeah, yeah, fine, fine.
Speaker 2: But then I think because you know, in those instances,
Speaker 2: you definitely have Republicans voting to affirm those kinds of things.
Speaker 2: They're like yeah, you know, okay, like we yeah, change
Speaker 2: the constitution. But then if it came down to like
Speaker 2: a down ballot race, I don't know if that's that
Speaker 2: criteria will matter as much if they're kind of like
Speaker 2: I don't want to vote for a Democrat, like you know,
Speaker 2: voting for a Democrat versus just voting to say I
Speaker 2: believe that the constitution should say that you have a
Speaker 2: right to an abortion, you know, And I think that's
Speaker 2: where it gets a little tricky for people, and then
Speaker 2: you know, the cognitive dissonance kicks in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and there have been some wins, like
Speaker 3: even this year, like in Ohio there.
Speaker 2: Was a win adding red state.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, adding the right to abortion and to
Speaker 3: their state constitutions. So I mean it's just hard in
Speaker 3: those battleground states. I mean from you know, we know
Speaker 3: that there were issues tampering with votes and you know,
Speaker 3: with some of these machines and everything. Not to give
Speaker 3: any credence to the bs that Trump spews, right, but
Speaker 3: there is like particularly voter suppression.
Speaker 2: That's just openly one of their techicsperience.
Speaker 3: Right, but it's overwhelmingly used by them, right, So it's
Speaker 3: a projection that it's happening more on the other side.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, yeah, So I mean we have again it
Speaker 2: is good. Like I was talking to a friend of
Speaker 2: mine who works in like abortion advocacy, and I would say, like,
Speaker 2: I it's got to be like bitter sweet, right because
Speaker 2: even though like these state legislatures are enacting these laws
Speaker 2: when it comes to a vote, like people are like
Speaker 2: they're they're taking l's every time when it comes to
Speaker 2: trying to deny people those rights. And they were just
Speaker 2: sort of saying like, yeah, like it's it's nice, but
Speaker 2: the fact that we even had to start over is
Speaker 2: just really the hardest fucking part of it all is
Speaker 2: because we're truly like we're trying to put fires out
Speaker 2: constantly everywhere to try and make sure people aren't, you know,
Speaker 2: having to take risks with their own life to exercise
Speaker 2: their own human rights. So yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Mean, it's it's just ridiculous. But I mean, I hope
Speaker 3: that people will understand that they're all connected to these issues,
Speaker 3: right like everybody is. Destiny is kind of on the
Speaker 3: chopping block when any of us can't access to the
Speaker 3: healthcare we need.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Yeah, all right, let's take a quick break and
Speaker 1: we'll be right back. And we're back, and we're back,
Speaker 1: and Ohio, you know, they they strayed from the path.
Speaker 1: They were a red state and they strayed over to
Speaker 1: try and be a green state, and they're about to
Speaker 1: reap the rewards, about to feel feel the burn of
Speaker 1: the devil's whip.
Speaker 2: Something like this.
Speaker 1: That's the worst smell you'll ever That's what the cup
Speaker 1: at my Dare program in Dayton, Ohio did. Is he
Speaker 1: me smell a weed pipe. That's the worst smell you'll
Speaker 1: ever smell. That smells pretty fucking good, you said, yumy,
Speaker 1: Like I don't smoke weed now, but that smells great.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, like like we were saying. Right in Ohio,
Speaker 2: not only did they codify abortion access to their constitution,
Speaker 2: the voters there also they passed a measure legalizing marijuana possession,
Speaker 2: growing in sales for anyone over twenty one. And obviously,
Speaker 2: you know there's almost like twenty three ish four states
Speaker 2: already that have recreational laws on their books. But you know,
Speaker 2: this was a moment for a woman named Aubrey Adams,
Speaker 2: the director of the anti weed organization Every Brain Matters Shit,
Speaker 2: to go to a the state center had a general
Speaker 2: Government committee meeting where they were basically taking public comment,
Speaker 2: and she took that moment to let really just warn
Speaker 2: everybody that marijuana a bomb is about to go off
Speaker 2: in the state if something isn't done, so I will
Speaker 2: let Aubrey Atoms take it away.
Speaker 6: Ohio voters were fooled into thinking marijuana is less harmful
Speaker 6: than alcohol. It's not. One swallow of alcohol can induce
Speaker 6: psychotic behaviors.
Speaker 3: One one hit.
Speaker 6: Can, and two hits from marijuana bong can. That's what
Speaker 6: happened to brim Space Shier in Thousand Oaks, California.
Speaker 2: This goes down a list of people who smoked a
Speaker 2: marijuana bong twice and then.
Speaker 1: Like committed crimes well like out of their mind on
Speaker 1: marijuana bods.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I.
Speaker 1: Would just love comparison of the statistics of people who
Speaker 1: committed crime due to marijuana, the people who committed crime
Speaker 1: or drove drunk due to alcohol, and how many lives
Speaker 1: were lost, just in a comparison for people driving twenty
Speaker 1: miles below the speed limit because they're too high.
Speaker 2: Just people, I mean loosely right, Excessive drinking causes more
Speaker 2: than one hundred and forty thousand deaths per year in
Speaker 2: the United State States, you know what I mean? And
Speaker 2: I think, while yes, there are there there is something
Speaker 2: like the evidence that high doses of THC could leak
Speaker 2: cause temporary episodes that is far from being like the norm. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And also you know, I think it is commendable to
Speaker 2: care about the impact that this may have on youth
Speaker 2: or whatever, because clearly, like kids are getting into edibles
Speaker 2: a lot more. That's like the one statistic that does
Speaker 2: go up when like there is legalizations, Like kids are
Speaker 2: finding adults edibles and then getting fucking ripped off of
Speaker 2: them and then go to the hospital and shit like that.
Speaker 2: I think that is something absolutely that you can put
Speaker 2: your attention on. But this whole thing, this feel like
Speaker 2: this like round of fear mongering to me, doesn't really
Speaker 2: feel like we're trying to keep kids away, but here
Speaker 2: trying to feel feels a little bit like we're trying
Speaker 2: to maintain the status quo where weed is a drug
Speaker 2: and then a drug that you know mostly sees black
Speaker 2: and brown people put in jail. I mean her her
Speaker 2: organization is called Every Brain Matters, So it feels like
Speaker 2: some All Brain Matters. It feels like some all lives
Speaker 2: matter type shit for demonizing weeds and like oh no, no,
Speaker 2: no no. But the website has a cool T shirt
Speaker 2: that says even zombies like healthy brains. Doesn't she go
Speaker 2: on to be.
Speaker 1: Like two hits or maybe it was in that quote
Speaker 1: two hits off a marijuana bong can do that, and she.
Speaker 2: Goes on to she elaborates about someone who took to
Speaker 2: more than two hits off a marijuana bomb.
Speaker 1: Yes, and then I will say the closest I've ever
Speaker 1: felt to any sort of like you know, being out
Speaker 1: of control of my own mental capacities was being too
Speaker 1: high and it lasted for a couple hours, and I
Speaker 1: learned not to get too high anymore. And granted, like
Speaker 1: I I think there are you know, for kids, it
Speaker 1: can be really fucked up, and you know, some people
Speaker 1: who have pre existing conditions, it can be bad for them.
Speaker 1: I would say the same thing is true of like
Speaker 1: getting drunk, you know, right. So it just in comparing
Speaker 1: these two things, I feel like in my experience when
Speaker 1: I got too high, I wanted to disappear completely and
Speaker 1: did my best to do that and just like go
Speaker 1: in a room by myself and freak out about what
Speaker 1: people were saying about me. And then when I drank
Speaker 1: too much, I was a menace to myself and others.
Speaker 1: So it's just interesting that this is what she has
Speaker 1: chosen to attack, and that she specifically raised alcohol as
Speaker 1: a thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I just I feel like the us, like
Speaker 3: we just have a horrible way of like talking about
Speaker 3: nuance and just in general, Like when I think about
Speaker 3: being a young kid and you know, there was like
Speaker 3: dare and like all that stuff. It's like the idea
Speaker 3: that there's this binary of indulging or not indulging, like
Speaker 3: indulging too much and not indulging. It doesn't really reflect
Speaker 3: the real lives of people. Like if we have like
Speaker 3: this healthier understanding of like you're probably gonna drink, you know,
Speaker 3: like in other countries where the drinking age doesn't have
Speaker 3: to be like ninety for like folks to understand maybe
Speaker 3: what their relationship should be. And I don't know those statistics,
Speaker 3: so I'm not an expert in that, but I just
Speaker 3: feel like we just got to be realistic with young folks,
Speaker 3: like you're probably gonna drink. This is what makes sense, right.
Speaker 3: You got to listen to your body, figure out what
Speaker 3: works for you as you become of age and work
Speaker 3: through it.
Speaker 2: But the idea that you won't.
Speaker 3: Ever drink or you won't ever smoke, it's just pass.
Speaker 2: It's same thing with like sex education too, is this
Speaker 2: sort of yeah, I don't know you better, I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna tell you we're not gonna tell you anything about that.
Speaker 2: And then what's going on with all these like unwanted
Speaker 2: pregnancies or things like that, or people like not being
Speaker 2: completely unaware of how safe sex is or what sex is.
Speaker 2: Or I remember the other day I was at a
Speaker 2: farmer's market and I heard these teens arguing about safe sex,
Speaker 2: and it was the wildest shit I had ever heard
Speaker 2: in my life, Like like this one young girl told
Speaker 2: other ones. She's like, oh yeah, like pulling out is
Speaker 2: like ninety eight percent effective. She said that shit with
Speaker 2: a straight face. And my partner her mouth for you to.
Speaker 5: You know, we were walking by and we were like
Speaker 5: I almost like no, Like I was, I didn't want
Speaker 5: to be like, you know, I'm not going to be
Speaker 5: there like the nearly forty year old dude just pulling
Speaker 5: up to some teenager like.
Speaker 2: Oh, yo yo, who told you that? Who told you that?
Speaker 2: But it was like a moment where like I heard
Speaker 2: these like three kids. One was very forceful about and
Speaker 2: the other two were like oh really, And I was like,
Speaker 2: oh no, y'all, no, this is not it.
Speaker 3: This is And it was probably like some guy that
Speaker 3: she was messing with that's hold herd that was probably.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure one hundred percent of
Speaker 2: the misinformation about the effectiveness of pulling out comes from
Speaker 2: fucking dudes. That's just I think, Yeah, that's I think
Speaker 2: that's a universal truth. But I mean, like, yeah, to
Speaker 2: your point, we have such a like this puritanical outlook
Speaker 2: on so many things that it all it does is
Speaker 2: obscure things for kids or create these like really unhealthy
Speaker 2: relationships to them. Like so if something is like so
Speaker 2: exotic or like been demonized as a kid, and then
Speaker 2: you get out of the house, yeah, it's completely different.
Speaker 2: It's completely different because you don't know what you're gonna
Speaker 2: do or what you're about to get into if you
Speaker 2: come from a place or house that wasn't willing to
Speaker 2: discuss things open.
Speaker 3: Right, and like if you do get in trouble, you
Speaker 3: do get wasted or super high and you need someone
Speaker 3: to pick you up, Like you can't call like your
Speaker 3: parents in general, because they're gonna freak out. And it's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: maybe if you were just listening and understanding, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: a different story.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I had very like my parents are
Speaker 2: very they were very much on like, look, don't fuck
Speaker 2: your life. Up, but they're like, we know. My dad
Speaker 2: would be like, do not drink a bunch of champagne.
Speaker 2: He's like, the last thing you want to do. It's
Speaker 2: like one of the first things he told me, Like,
Speaker 2: it's gonna you will be so hungover the first the
Speaker 2: very that's.
Speaker 1: The best example of the thing I was saying earlier.
Speaker 1: That tastes good in your mouth and then in your stomach.
Speaker 1: It's like, whoa boy, what is happening down here?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Exactly. Immediate cut to my first fucked up hangover,
Speaker 2: Like drinking high school. I drink like almost like a
Speaker 2: three quarters of a bottle of Southern Comfort. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: the sugar in that you say, yeah, I was like,
Speaker 2: there wasn't on the list or whatever. However, I was willing.
Speaker 2: Like my parents, we're also like, please, don't ever feel
Speaker 2: like you cannot call us to get you out of
Speaker 2: a situation, Like even if you think we're gonna get
Speaker 2: mad at you, like, we don't want you to feel
Speaker 2: like you have no options. So for that I am
Speaker 2: grateful because they were open enough to be like, look,
Speaker 2: we might we might get in your ass afterwards, but
Speaker 2: at least give us the chance to maybe take you
Speaker 2: out of a bad situation. I only I never did
Speaker 2: it though, never did it because I feared my parents.
Speaker 3: Never said that, my my Catholic, devout parents. I almost
Speaker 3: got in trouble after going to a party and coming
Speaker 3: back and smelling like as my mom would say, refer
Speaker 3: and I didn't even know what it smelled like, Like
Speaker 3: that was like one of the only parties I ever
Speaker 3: went to in high school. And I was like, well, shit,
Speaker 3: you know, like I'm going to get in trouble and
Speaker 3: I didn't even get to have fun in that.
Speaker 2: Way, right, you know, Oh, you should have talked to
Speaker 2: my dare officer. He let me smell it.
Speaker 1: I will say one thing related to this, Clearly label
Speaker 1: your edibles. If you're gonna put a tray of edibles
Speaker 1: out at a holiday party, for instance, and you don't
Speaker 1: want somebody, a middle aged person.
Speaker 2: To have to leave on a stretcher. Yeah that maybe
Speaker 2: maybe clearly level bows that's getting I've seen that more
Speaker 2: and more. Yeah, I just states that have rec where
Speaker 2: there's like they'll always be like an edible tray, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, what I'm like, the last thing I want
Speaker 2: to do is eat edibles at a party, Like you
Speaker 2: want to just curl up on the couch and watch TV.
Speaker 2: They had that ship out like it was a candy
Speaker 2: like bowl, like a It is not not good, right.
Speaker 5: Right, right?
Speaker 3: And I wish this woman what was her name again.
Speaker 2: Aubrey, Aubrey, I was gonna say, Aubrey O day.
Speaker 3: From had the perfect opportunity to talk about how deadly
Speaker 3: Panera bread is.
Speaker 2: Right, she blew it right. I know the caffeine we
Speaker 2: were just we were touching on that the other day.
Speaker 2: But I mean for people who don't know, we talked
Speaker 2: about this story about how one young woman like had
Speaker 2: who had a heart condition like passed away from drinking
Speaker 2: all of those charged lemonades. Then another dude died he
Speaker 2: had three three in the car, three in the car.
Speaker 2: Heart stop. Yo, still have not had one.
Speaker 1: And I'm very proud of myself because that is the
Speaker 1: sort of shit I would normally be all over Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: all right.
Speaker 2: Should we talk about human dog beds? Please? Please? Quel?
Speaker 2: What do you know about? What do you know about
Speaker 2: the human dog bed.
Speaker 3: Under?
Speaker 6: What is this?
Speaker 2: So this is all over TikTok in the past year,
Speaker 2: like the idea, I think, I think, like I first
Speaker 2: saw about I think super producer on Josie was like this, like,
Speaker 2: then send it to all of us future. This is
Speaker 2: the future. It very well may be.
Speaker 1: Burger King is marketing a two hundred dollars bun shaped
Speaker 1: dog bed for humans, partnering with plus pluffyle Plufful company
Speaker 1: built on the notion that, yeah, that is a chill name,
Speaker 1: isn't it pluffy.
Speaker 2: She's back in, She's back in, Oh Plufful, I'm not
Speaker 2: back in.
Speaker 3: I can I you know, just like, at the risk
Speaker 3: of alienating folks, this sounds like peak white culture. I
Speaker 3: just want to name that, but.
Speaker 2: Oh, you're way off.
Speaker 1: Two Canadian university students, after one of them noticed a
Speaker 1: dog comfortably sleeping and a custom made doug that at
Speaker 1: a campus coffee shops not white at all, where like, hey,
Speaker 1: that kind of looks comfortable, they were I think business
Speaker 1: students are like economic students, and so took their idea
Speaker 1: to Shark Tank and got two hundred thousand dollars for
Speaker 1: twenty percent of the company, And then the beds went
Speaker 1: viral on TikTok and even before the burger King thing,
Speaker 1: CBS called the regular, non burger King version of the bed.
Speaker 1: The viral Christmas gift of twenty twenty three. But I
Speaker 1: just I think this is I think people want this,
Speaker 1: Like is this.
Speaker 3: Like a bean bag? Like is that like a bean bag?
Speaker 3: Or like what happens to futons, you know, like or
Speaker 3: day bad.
Speaker 2: Right, they're so easy to roll out of. I guess
Speaker 2: this has little sides like a little pouch that you
Speaker 2: can just throw up in. Right, you could go full
Speaker 2: fetal and no, there's no risk of going out. Do
Speaker 2: you think Jack, this is we want to be we
Speaker 2: want to be pets?
Speaker 1: I think we I think this is like the beginning
Speaker 1: of something awful that is going to happen to white people.
Speaker 1: I think they're I think we are. We want like
Speaker 1: we're gonna start eating like like dog bowls of treats
Speaker 1: off of the ground. I think we're going to have
Speaker 1: a human dog walker who comes and takes us to
Speaker 1: the park and like runs us around, which is just
Speaker 1: like a personal trainer, but like with less pressure. They
Speaker 1: don't look like as ripped as a personal trainer. They're
Speaker 1: just like someone who's like all right, run back and
Speaker 1: forth and like throws a ball that you can chase.
Speaker 1: They'll they'll take you around on leisure off depending on
Speaker 1: what you're into. But yeah, just having someone come sit
Speaker 1: next to you and like pet you in a totally
Speaker 1: non sexual way.
Speaker 2: Like Drew Barrymore did to Oprah. Did she what did
Speaker 2: you see that? No, she was like she was Oprah
Speaker 2: was on her show and she was caressing Oprah while
Speaker 2: talking to her, and everybody's like, what the fuck is.
Speaker 3: Is interesting? I don't There's something about the way that
Speaker 3: she reaches out to like build intimacy with folks physically
Speaker 3: when she's interviewing them that fills like.
Speaker 2: Robotic.
Speaker 3: It's weird, it's I should touch you this point right.
Speaker 2: It feels like a like an ai is trying to
Speaker 2: pretend it's human.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like this is like this is this is her
Speaker 3: open I'm available, I can do it. She's like something
Speaker 3: that I break her hands.
Speaker 2: She's holding her arms with Oprah, like.
Speaker 1: How do you do this to the Queen of England?
Speaker 1: Because you're doing it to the Queen of the United
Speaker 1: States and it's trying to get away. She's like adjusted
Speaker 1: like get the fuck off of me, please.
Speaker 3: This is what I think white women do. And like
Speaker 3: when you're drunk in the restroom.
Speaker 2: And like you're like this en daring or are you
Speaker 2: gonna murder me? Like what are you doing right deep
Speaker 2: in your eyes?
Speaker 1: I think I think just people are people just want
Speaker 1: Like this came up in one of the story we
Speaker 1: covered about like dating sites and like the some of
Speaker 1: the weird things of like get yourself like a high
Speaker 1: earning like partner.
Speaker 2: Oh, high value male, high value male, high.
Speaker 1: Value female, like all that bullshit. But like it comes
Speaker 1: back to people just want to get any excuse to
Speaker 1: get out of the fucking bullshit of day to day
Speaker 1: life in America, like having to like you know, work
Speaker 1: and deal with you know, work with the threat of dying,
Speaker 1: like and you know, be it not being being unhoused
Speaker 1: like that that's stressful as fuck. Like and that's what
Speaker 1: life in America is. Is like if oh, you lose
Speaker 1: your job or you have an injury and your health
Speaker 1: insurance doesn't cover it, like you're fucked.
Speaker 2: So it's a lot. And like it doesn't surprise me
Speaker 2: that people are like, you know, what looks good is
Speaker 2: like my dog's life, right, No, because I think, like,
Speaker 2: you know, it's not that people want to be like
Speaker 2: a quadruped or something and take a shit in a
Speaker 2: park or something. They want the pet lifestyle, like to
Speaker 2: your point, like, yeah, look, I'm not trying to yuck
Speaker 2: anybody's young, but I think what this really is to
Speaker 2: your point, it's like you want to have the pet lifestyle,
Speaker 2: meaning you don't want to you don't like you're not
Speaker 2: having to work, no responsibility except to clean yourself, sleep
Speaker 2: and eat. Like there are times I remember going out,
Speaker 2: like going to work, leaving the house and don't look
Speaker 2: at my dog or my cats, just like laying down
Speaker 2: all fucking day. And I'm like, oh, y'all think you
Speaker 2: got it made huh Okay, I see you guys. And
Speaker 2: then in my mind, I'm like, but that's balling, that's yeah,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And so I think it's
Speaker 2: it's a rejection of the toil, but in a cute,
Speaker 2: comfy way. Yeah, but I think, but it's weird because
Speaker 2: it's the most literal version. It's like, you know, we
Speaker 2: could maybe try and get a little more active out there,
Speaker 2: and we can. I mean, I get it, man, we're
Speaker 2: trying to advocate for ourselves ever we can. And some
Speaker 2: people have just arrived at the dog bed point where
Speaker 2: they're like I'll just.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's their young I think we're just preparing
Speaker 3: for the AI takeover and the robot robot takeover.
Speaker 2: Your chats. They're not going to take over our ship though, Nay,
Speaker 2: I going to replicate us. We're so good. Yeah, we're
Speaker 2: so good that we are so good. We are so
Speaker 2: good at this rock.
Speaker 1: Well, Raquel will it's such a pleasure having you on
Speaker 1: the show. Where can people find you? Follow you, read
Speaker 1: you all that good stuff.
Speaker 3: Well, don't read me too hard. You can find me
Speaker 3: at Roquel Willis dot com. My memoir The Risk It
Speaker 3: Takes to Bloom, all about my experience growing up in
Speaker 3: the South queer and into my trans identity and then
Speaker 3: my work.
Speaker 2: You'll find it all there.
Speaker 3: And then check out my podcast Afterlives, which focuses on
Speaker 3: the life and life legacy of Leileen Polanco and Afro Latina,
Speaker 3: who died in Ryker's custody, which is really heavy note
Speaker 3: to end on, but we have some glimmers of hope
Speaker 3: in the series, so it's not all doom and gloom.
Speaker 2: Go check it out. And you got another show it's
Speaker 2: coming up too, and another show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So stay tuned for Queer Chronicles, which follows the
Speaker 3: experiences of queer and Trans te teens and red States,
Speaker 3: so it'll be an important political year kind of glimpse
Speaker 3: into their lives.
Speaker 2: And what was it like.
Speaker 3: Producing that show? I mean, one of the things that
Speaker 3: I've been very interested in is like how we get
Speaker 3: young folks to tell their stories on their own terms.
Speaker 3: I mean, I was I was listening to All about
Speaker 3: Love by Bell Hooks because I'm that girl, and not
Speaker 3: to be extra, but listening to it, and she was
Speaker 3: talking about how like youth in our society really don't
Speaker 3: have full rights, like we don't really see them as
Speaker 3: full human beings. And I think that that's so true,
Speaker 3: Like we often filter their experiences through our like MOULDI
Speaker 3: old adult lens, and so especially for Clear and transis
Speaker 3: like they deserve to speak for themselves, not have conservative
Speaker 3: politicians who don't have the range trying to talk about
Speaker 3: their experiences and then not having adults be all paternalistic
Speaker 3: and we got to defend and protect you because you
Speaker 3: can't suit for yourself, right, Yeah, yeah, we'll have to.
Speaker 2: Please. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying.
Speaker 3: I have been reading this book called People Collide by
Speaker 3: Isle McElroy. They're a non binary novelist.
Speaker 2: But they the book is like about this.
Speaker 3: Sis straight couple that some kind of way switches bodies
Speaker 3: and so it's an interesting like novel. I'm like, I'm
Speaker 3: like a third of the way through it, but I'm
Speaker 3: having a good time, so amazing. And then Fortnite of
Speaker 3: course that counts pay.
Speaker 2: Lego Fortnite or is that like that's that's a little
Speaker 2: too juvenile for you.
Speaker 3: I know, I guess that's just there's like a Lego
Speaker 3: thing going on right now, right right, right.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, everybody's trying to get me to Lego Fortnite.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm terrible at Fortnite, but little no.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'll give it a chance. But you know,
Speaker 3: I I started playing Fortnite during the Marvel season, so
Speaker 3: I got a little spoiled with all of the character
Speaker 3: because every season isn't like that or chapter isn't like that.
Speaker 3: But I guess I'll end up force to play Lego
Speaker 3: Fortnite at some point.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, eventually we all have to answer the call.
Speaker 2: Let go for miles?
Speaker 1: Where can people find you as their work media you've
Speaker 1: been enjoying.
Speaker 2: Uh, find me on the at base platforms at Miles
Speaker 2: of Gray if you want to hear Jack and I
Speaker 2: talk basketball, Miles and Jack got mad Boost see that's
Speaker 2: our NBA podcast. And if you want to hear me
Speaker 2: talk about my favorite reality trash show, ninety day Fiance,
Speaker 2: check me out on four to twenty day Fiance with
Speaker 2: Sofia Alexandra A tweet I like there's a first one.
Speaker 2: It's from Ana Fitzpatrick at Banana Fits tweeted, my only
Speaker 2: advice to young aspiring writers is to befriend people with
Speaker 2: nice apartments and offer to cat sit when they go
Speaker 2: out of town. That is a move, you know, always
Speaker 2: try and find the person that you can, you know,
Speaker 2: kind of get away from your living situation from and
Speaker 2: cats it. That's it, whatever, dogs it. I did that
Speaker 2: a lot. And then also their stuff and use it
Speaker 2: as inspiration for your writing, right yeah, download some of
Speaker 2: their specscripts and then punch them up. I punched up
Speaker 2: a couple of scripts while you were gone, just over
Speaker 2: wrote the original, so you know, this is probably the
Speaker 2: better way anyway. And then at Noah Garfi Cold this
Speaker 2: is a very la tweet, but I said, very impressed
Speaker 2: by the not that in shape guy jogging laps around
Speaker 2: Echo Park and sagging jeans and no shirt. There's so
Speaker 2: many people you see exercising in the city where you're
Speaker 2: not sure if they're running from something or jogging. So yeah,
Speaker 2: sagging gee, I love a sagging jean job, you know,
Speaker 2: I love to see that.
Speaker 1: Can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien tweet
Speaker 1: I've been enjoying Corey at cool map game tweeted first.
Speaker 2: Guy to go bird watching. Someone needs to be watching
Speaker 2: those fucking things. Don't trust it. You can find us
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Speaker 1: We have a Facebook fan page and a website daily
Speaker 1: zeikeist dot com where we post our episodes and our
Speaker 1: foot note.
Speaker 2: Where we link off to the information that.
Speaker 1: We talked about today's episode, as well as a song
Speaker 1: that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what something do
Speaker 1: we think people might enjoy?
Speaker 2: Ye, you will enjoy e this track by Matt wild
Speaker 2: D which that just kind of worked out Matt Wilde
Speaker 2: with a E on the end. It's called Nostalgia. He's
Speaker 2: like a British piano keys player new jazz and I
Speaker 2: just like it's like easy listening. But if you like
Speaker 2: hip hop, it feels like, you know, like a boom
Speaker 2: back beat that would you know, maybe high tech made
Speaker 2: on the you know, the live album or something most
Speaker 2: of that, who knows. But it's a really great soothing track.
Speaker 2: It's called Nostalgia by Matt Wilde. Just just you know, relax, relax, relax.
Speaker 2: It just put on the back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well we will link off to that
Speaker 1: in the footnotes.
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