1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three, seventeen, Episode 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: three of der Day's Guys Day production of iHeartRadio. This 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: is a podcast where we take a deep dive into 4 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: America's share consciousness. And it is Wednesday, December thirteenth, twenty 5 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: twenty three. 6 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: First of all, shout outs to. 7 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: My younger sister Caitlin. It is her birthday. 8 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 2: Kaylen, Hey, look, happy birthday. It's also National Violin Day. 9 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,919 Speaker 2: It's all these are runners up. Yeah to Caitlin's exactly. 10 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 2: Also National Cocoa Day. I'm a big proponent of hot cocoa. 11 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,639 Speaker 2: Also National Day of the Horse. I don't know why 12 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: it's called day day horse. That feels aggressive. It was 13 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 2: the fucking day of the horse. And also Pick a 14 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 2: Pathologist Day, which I'm not sure one I read. Pick one. 15 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: Stop with the flirting with all the different pathologists. Pick 16 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: a fucking pathologist. 17 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: Okay, it just says, well, life is short, making friends 18 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 2: with a pathologist or coroner may improve our outlook on life. 19 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. What what is just created by lonely pathology? 20 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 2: I think so it is they see some of the 21 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 2: worst of the hills that can be follow us if 22 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 2: they can be jovial, then rest asshired, living life to 23 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 2: our fullest. Well we can maybe the key. Wow. Okay, 24 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 2: that's an interesting thing. 25 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: These national international days are so just like such a 26 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: weird corner of humanity. It's like, I think we should 27 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: have a day because we're kind of happy even though our. 28 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 2: Job is set. 29 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, get pick me, pick a podcaster, pick 30 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: a peck of podcasters. 31 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 2: That that should be a day if we could be jovial, 32 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? The ship we have to 33 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 2: see every day. Oh, come on exactly. 34 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: Well, my name's Jack O'Brien ak menthol scrub. Won't chick 35 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: come and burn away the flakes menthol scrub, won't chick 36 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: come burn my face? 37 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 2: So that courtesy a blanky hack Man scrub. Yeah, backing 38 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 2: track for that one. 39 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: I appreciate it, and I'm thrilled to be joined as 40 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 1: always by my co host and backing vocalist on the 41 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: occasional AKA it. 42 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 2: Is mister Miles Greg. Thank you, Miles Gray aka dead Kevin. 43 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 2: Can't you see he got Mark Now he's in purgatory. 44 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 2: Come on, Kevin, can't you hop with bandits? He's dead, Kevin? 45 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 2: He's dead, Kevin Okay, that's how blooded by foreigner, my 46 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,839 Speaker 2: own kind of version there by Freudian quick because look, 47 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 2: we're talking about home alone. Kevin Mcowisler is dead the 48 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 2: whole time, y'all. Depending on how he's out. He may 49 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 2: have a fever of one hundred and three. He may 50 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 2: have that one, you know, that might have been how 51 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 2: he went. Maybe that's why he's also scared of the 52 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: fur basement in the basement, the basement because that thing 53 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 2: looks hot. I think anyway, strongest fan theory for a 54 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 2: seminole Christmas movie that will get you thinking. 55 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 1: The whole time, I mean, second strongest behind I think 56 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: the mom is actually the bread winner, which I found 57 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: on Reddit is like one of the most popular on 58 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: Reddit fan theories of the past year. 59 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 2: She's paying for the trip because she's a fashion I 60 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 2: guess that changes. 61 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: It's not a fan theory, that's just, you know, something 62 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: that's entirely possible. First on the facts that we've been given, Miles, 63 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: we are thrilled to be joined in our third seats 64 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: by an activist and author of the new book The 65 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: Risk It Takes to Bloom. She's also the host of Afterlives, 66 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: which is a new podcast series honoring the lives of 67 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: trans folks Stolen too Soon. So much stuff dropping all 68 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: at the same time. She's very busy. Please welcome to 69 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: the show. 70 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 2: Rockow Will else. Yeah, not much. 71 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 3: Thanks for having me on. 72 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 2: Oh no, thanks good have you? 73 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: Thank you for making time, like in the middle of 74 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: a book tour, in the middle of like dropping a 75 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: new podcast. 76 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 4: I know. 77 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 3: I mean, this is gonna be my ray of light 78 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 3: because I've been dropping really heavy stuff. Yeah, so this 79 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 3: is like y'all are going to lighten the mood for me. 80 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, we're gonna have fun. We're here to. 81 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: Talk about home alone fan theories, l light in your 82 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: load a little bit. 83 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 2: Where you come to us from? Where? I mean, I 84 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 2: know where you're I know where you're coming to us from. 85 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 3: For the listener, I'm in Brooklyn. It's you know, it 86 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 3: feels like home now. But I'm really a Georgia girl, 87 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 3: so I wrap the South as much as possible. 88 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 2: What is how is like the holiday? Are you going 89 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 2: to Georgia for the holidays? Are you staying? Are people 90 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 2: coming to you? What's your holiday plan? 91 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 3: Nobody comes to me, which is now I'm like, okay, 92 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 3: they need to so we need to work on that 93 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 3: for twenty twenty four. But I'm always the one traveling 94 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 3: the next day labor. But I'm usually between Georgia closer 95 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 3: to Atlanta. So I'm from Augusta, which is like two 96 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 3: hours away from Atlanta. But my sister lives outside of Atlanta, 97 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 3: and then my mom and my brother live in Tennessee, 98 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 3: so I'm usually between the outchirch of Atlanta and Nashville. 99 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I can't think of too many holiday 100 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: movies that take place in Tennessee or Georgia, but I 101 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: can think of quite a few that take place in 102 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: New York. I'm just saying New York's kind of a 103 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: magical place. 104 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 2: For the holidays. 105 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: Maybe the family needs to start thinking about how how 106 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 1: much how much magic can be packed into a New 107 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: York holiday vacation. 108 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 3: It's true, I mean New York is you know, it 109 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 3: can be a winter. 110 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 2: Wonderland every like three years, right, Like. 111 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 3: I've learned since I've been here the last like five 112 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 3: years that You're not actually gonna get nice snow each year. 113 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 3: Like I'm just gonna have to deal with the brisk, 114 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 3: freezing cold sometimes, right, and be. 115 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 1: Okay with that little pellets of ice spit in your 116 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: face sometimes or that's slush too, like the snow stays 117 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: nice for fifteen seconds. How do you what New Yorkers? 118 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 2: I mean, because I know, you know, like New Yorkers 119 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 2: like to have their sneakers looking nice, their tyms looking nice, 120 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 2: Like do you just have to have like a pair 121 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 2: like when it's like they're like, there's no fucking way 122 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 2: I keep you it's fucked up out there, so I 123 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 2: need to wear my like rain boots or something. What 124 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 2: I'm from l A. You know, it's so dry. There's 125 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 2: like I wish I knew the what it was like 126 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 2: to have to, you know, navigate a puddle, but I don't. 127 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 2: I don't. 128 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 3: Well, there are snow boots, so I have, like I 129 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 3: definitely have like the big kind of like snow boots, 130 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 3: which are like the moon boots, but not like necessarily 131 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 3: for fashion. 132 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 2: There their functility. Yeah, I don't know if folks. 133 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 3: Are going out in their TEMs when the snow is 134 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 3: like several inches high. 135 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but sometimes it stays like the snow stays, 136 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: you know, there's like rifts on the side of the 137 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: avenue and just like big slush puddles, and I have 138 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: had the experience of like when I was a burgeoning, 139 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: like sneaker head, I had a new pair of dunks 140 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: on and stepped in a puddle up to like my 141 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: shin and it was one, oh so bad. 142 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 2: They were just different. 143 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: Colors from that point forward, right right right, Yeah, it 144 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: was bad, but it was like the it was the 145 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: consistency of a slushie. 146 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 2: So it was also you know, oh yeah, like you 147 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 2: stepped in a bucket of slurpy. Basically yeah, yeah, wo 148 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 2: my ass up to that. 149 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, don't do that, all right, Rall, We're gonna get 150 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, 151 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: a couple of stories we're talking about. We're going to 152 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: talk about Texas's fucked up abortion laws. We're going to 153 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: talk about the demon weed come for Ohio your brains. 154 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: Oho Burger King is getting in on the human dog 155 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: bed trend, So we're just gonna talk about that trend. 156 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: I feel like it could be taken further. We'll talk 157 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: about that plenty more. But first, Raquel, we do like 158 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: to ask our guests, what is something from your search 159 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: history that is revealing about. 160 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 2: Who you are? 161 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 3: The Only thing I can think of is that I 162 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 3: went out to eat with one of my friends the 163 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 3: other day and I had to search what is what 164 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 3: is the sushi that's a taco but not really a 165 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 3: taco and it's tamaki because it's like the open face 166 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 3: like sushi. But I didn't know what it was. 167 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, so you're talking about just the little 168 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 1: bed of rice with the sushi on top. 169 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: Of it, but it's like wrapped in the seaweed but like, 170 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 2: oh okay, like a hand roll. 171 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like a foodie, but like I don't always 172 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 3: have the right names for stuff. So I'm like, okay, well, 173 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 3: what is the sushi kind of taco hybrids? 174 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 2: It looks like an ice cream cone filled with fish, right, 175 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 2: it does? And it was good. 176 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 3: I mean, we went to the place and it was amazing. 177 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 2: There's a there's like a place in LA that's just 178 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 2: all hand rolls that I know, Like I don't know 179 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 2: if I'm sure they have that kind of west right, yeah, 180 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 2: and like they have it by the I forget the 181 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 2: name anyway, but yeah, timuki is like my one of 182 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 2: my favorites. Usually you eat it at the end, like 183 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 2: when you have like a sushi meal, because like the 184 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,959 Speaker 2: mentality is you like it's it's meant to be the 185 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 2: closing sushi that you eat to make sure like oh oh, 186 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 2: so you think you're full now, well then try this 187 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 2: one and now go home, get down. Yeah, that's why 188 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 2: I like the philosophy behind it. It's like no hit 189 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 2: hit yourself with the big one at that end. 190 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: Is there a study of food that like passes through 191 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 1: you at like different speed, the speed at which you 192 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: go from full to not full anymore? Because sushi, I 193 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: can eat myself to like stuffed to the like very 194 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: bottom of my esophagus, like I can feel the sushi 195 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: down there, and then like be hungry an hour and 196 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,959 Speaker 1: a half later, whereas like Thanksgiving dinner or something like that, 197 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: I'm done, like I'm cooked, Like, yeah, it's just stuck. 198 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. 199 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 2: Korean food also goes right through me. I feel. I 200 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 2: feel like it's a. 201 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: Lot of the foods from Asian countries that. 202 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 2: Are like that. You're able to eat a ton. I 203 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 2: mean it's probably able. 204 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 1: To eat a ton and then be hungry at like 205 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 1: the next time a meal rolls around you. Look, we 206 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: like to eat, man, we like to Yeah, so we're 207 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: not gonna get slowed down. 208 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 2: And I think I don't know. I mean, I know 209 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 2: the same way. I think a lot of it, Like 210 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 2: when eating sushi. There's also the part of it you're like, 211 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 2: how much fucking money is this costing? So like you 212 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 2: can't I mean, unless you want to really go there, 213 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 2: like you could. I'm I'm sure you could eat that amount, 214 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 2: but I'm sure there's also like a psychological effect of like, Okay, 215 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 2: do I get another fifteen dollars thing and see if 216 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 2: that will do it, you know what I mean, versus 217 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 2: like what fifteen bucks gets me a chipotlet or something. 218 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 2: I think there's that part of it too. I don't 219 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 2: know if anyone's eating to their full potential. 220 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean starches make you feel right, and 221 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 3: they fiber stuff, I think, but I feel like it's 222 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 3: like things that are super fatty or whatever, like they 223 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 3: make you want more because like if I eat bacon, 224 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 3: I never want to stop, you know. It's like if 225 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 3: I eat like pork belly or something, I never want 226 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 3: to stop. I want to keep going. 227 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 2: Oh you so you like the like the luxurious kind 228 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 2: of juicy, fatty parts of I look when you said 229 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 2: bacon and pork belly. It's the same part, but we're 230 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 2: doing it different ways. And I'm like, I love I. 231 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: Say the number one food for like what I'm talking 232 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: about is pancakes, because pancakes you eat them and then 233 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: get less and less hungry after you've eaten them as 234 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: they expand in your stomach, you know. Oh right, right, 235 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: Like I get more and more full, like even after 236 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: I've eaten them. Right, So, like there is a science 237 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: that I'm sure like chefs and culinary artists pay attention 238 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: to it, like, Okay, this is how it's gonna feel 239 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: going down, but also like once you've eaten it, because 240 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: you do have like taste buds in your stomach. You know, 241 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:14,719 Speaker 1: that's that's a part of There's definitely stuff that when 242 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: you eat it or drink it, it's like, oh, I 243 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: liked it when I was having it in my mouth, 244 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: but then like there's just something about it that fucks 245 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 1: me up once it's in my stomach. 246 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 5: You know. 247 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 2: Wisdom, what Raquel? What is something you think is overrated? 248 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 3: What do I think is overrated? Oh, at the risk 249 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:39,839 Speaker 3: of being political, the Democratic Party risk it. 250 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 2: It's a mess. 251 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 3: It's a mess. I mean, it's been a mess. But 252 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 3: like I can't I can't with these folks who are 253 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 3: like blue no matter who, like that kind of man. 254 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 2: I'm just like, no, we it does matter. It actually does, right, 255 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 2: That's I mean. I think a lot of peop don't 256 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 2: realize it's a you are in a very luxurious, privileged 257 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 2: position if you have the philosophy of I vote blue 258 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 2: no matter who. Yeah, because there's so many factors around 259 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 2: a political candidate or what a party's platform is. I 260 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 2: mean we talk about this a lot on the show 261 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 2: because we're very critical. We're like, you have to give 262 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 2: us better options than this now, because like you can't 263 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 2: keep promising folks certain things and then just like just 264 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,599 Speaker 2: ghost like you forgot about it. Yeah, you're like, no, 265 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 2: we didn't forget about existential threats. What are you talking about? Like, 266 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 2: I'm not going to drop these issues, but yeah, they 267 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 2: did just feel a little bit like that. 268 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's like those are the same folks who 269 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 3: have the critique of conservatives that vote for any of 270 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 3: the riff raft that they have. So I'm like, come 271 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 3: on now, right, yeah, get what the program. 272 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 2: I know. And I think there's a part of it 273 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 2: too that. 274 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 5: You know. 275 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 2: There's another thing. You always hear people be like, oh, 276 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 2: so you want Trump to win. It's like, yeah, no, 277 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 2: I don't want Trump to win. I'm telling you. I'm 278 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 2: I'm saying, as a party that's courting someone's vote, you 279 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 2: have to offer some someone. Just like sales. You can't 280 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 2: be like you buy this piece of ship or else 281 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 2: you gonna die. It's like, hold on like this, that's 282 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 2: not how this transaction work. Car clearly hates you, but 283 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 2: you have to buy it, and it will lie, it 284 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 2: will say the tank is full, it's already. So yeah, 285 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 2: and it's it's really about want. It's about saying like 286 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 2: we deserve better as human beings, and the status quo 287 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 2: is not good enough. So if you're coming with I'm 288 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 2: here to maintain the status quote, guess what. The status 289 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 2: quote is deadly to many people. So that's the thing 290 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 2: I think more people could wrap their head around. It's 291 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 2: not I'm trying. I don't want Trump to win. I 292 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 2: don't want to. But okay, do you want you want 293 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 2: me to get you a mega hut? Yeah? 294 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, when the glass my gosh, Okay, New York Times 295 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 4: op ed writer, that's right, Yeah, but I mean, is 296 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 4: there what do you is there specifically, like what are 297 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 4: you looking at? 298 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 2: And you know what's kind of getting you? 299 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I'm definitely just, I guess pissed off. 300 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 3: Not I guess I definitely am pissed off in this 301 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 3: moment where all of the discourse coming out of what's 302 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 3: happening to Palestinian folks is like that doesn't matter. Just 303 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 3: just listen to the propaganda we're throwing at you. And 304 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 3: it's like, no, people haven't have had real gripes about 305 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 3: everything from student loans to the increased you know, issues 306 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 3: around abortion not be access not being codified into law, 307 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 3: and on and on, and you can't, you especially can't 308 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 3: just tell people don't care about almost like twenty thousand 309 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 3: folks being slaughtered right right with our life, Like that 310 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 3: has to be a deal breaker, right, right, things should 311 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 3: have been. 312 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 2: But it is odd to be like I want to 313 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 2: lead the country. I'm like, Okay, do you have like 314 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 2: a good heart? Like ignore those deaths, right, that's. 315 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 3: Ignore the money that we're throwing at it. That's also 316 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 3: your money. 317 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 2: Right, but don't think about Yeah, And I think and 318 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 2: that's what's like, I think just it's a very interesting 319 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 2: time because the Democrats they're struggling with like trying to 320 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 2: sell Bidenomics, They're struggling with what to do with voters 321 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 2: who are completely unsatisfied, upset about our foreign policy right now, 322 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 2: especially as it relates to Gaza, and you know, like 323 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 2: you're the they have a lot on their plate. But 324 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 2: it feels like the easiest thing, which is so funny, 325 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 2: is you just need to move a little bit away 326 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 2: from the status quo and you will be saying things 327 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 2: that resonate with many people, like if like, for example, 328 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 2: just talking really forcefully about certain things as it relates 329 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 2: to you know, codifying Roe v. Wade, or actual tangible 330 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 2: reforms to how we do policing in this country, or 331 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 2: tangible reforms to our social safety programs, like those are 332 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 2: the kinds of things that people really pay attention to 333 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 2: or they experience every day, rather than like you know, 334 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 2: like how wages are getting compressed or whatever macroeconomic terms 335 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 2: are being thrown around at people and then being told, oh, 336 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 2: so you want Trump to win. You don't like Bidenomics, 337 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 2: Like no, I'm people are struggling and they want to 338 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 2: find a way that feels like they aren't anymore. 339 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: And the fact that they're doing it so much as 340 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: a oh you like, you know, you want Trump to 341 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 1: win is essentially the whole strategy, and therefore like we 342 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: don't have to give you these things that you need 343 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 1: that you've been asking for, that we could give you 344 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: in many cases, right is it's just so cynical, and 345 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 1: it assumes that people don't notice that that's what they're doing, 346 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: you know, right, yeah, And. 347 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 3: We've been hearing that the last three presidential elections, Oh 348 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 3: you want trumple in? I mean, even with the critiques 349 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 3: of Hillary in twenty sixteen, right, you know, or of 350 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 3: course in twenty twenty, and then now it's like y'all 351 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 3: got to get some new folks up in the megs, like, 352 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 3: let's get some new messages going because this is not working. 353 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's wild that they still think they can keep 354 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 2: playing people for votes and not deliver and then like 355 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 2: when it doesn't work, then start turning up on people like, oh, 356 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,959 Speaker 2: so you want the opposite. It's like, excuse me, Uh, 357 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 2: can I run back the tape of the things you 358 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 2: said the last election campaign and how you went almost 359 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 2: one to eighty on a lot of that stuff. 360 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about my hands are tied man, 361 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: and I president of the United States. 362 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 2: And that's what can I do. And it's true, right, 363 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 2: there are instances where the president can't just push those 364 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 2: things through, and so you have like this very you 365 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 2: have this kind of vague middle ground to be like, well, 366 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 2: you know, I tried, but also like I can't. But 367 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 2: also I'm kind of saying I can't. It's it's yeah, 368 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 2: it's it's confusing, and it's frustrating, and people are like 369 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 2: looking at real like, you know, people need real help. 370 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 2: And if if it doesn't feel like it's coming, how 371 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 2: are we gonna get excited about a candidate? Yeah, Yeah, 372 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 2: it's gonna be real. 373 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 3: It's gonna be a fun twenty twenty four. 374 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: Oh my god, to just the people literally bullshit, Yeah, 375 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: this is gonna be a very exhausting time. What is 376 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 1: something Raquel that you think is underrated? 377 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 2: That show Rap Shit? Do y'all watch that? 378 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 6: Oh? 379 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 2: Is that the Ratio? 380 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 3: The Race show on Max? I wish it got as 381 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 3: much attention as Insecurity, But I love rap Shehit, and 382 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 3: I love that it follows these two girls who are 383 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 3: basically modeled after the City girls, and there's like one 384 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 3: girl who like is like, you know, she's really got 385 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 3: the flow, and then the other girl is like the 386 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 3: hype person, right, but they're kind of reverse from Jays 387 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 3: and Kresha, which I think is cool too. 388 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 2: But I love the show. I think it's just it's dope, 389 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 2: and I just wish more people talked about this, yeah, 390 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 2: because it's in it's what second. I remember watching the 391 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 2: first couple episodes of the first season and like really 392 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 2: liking it. But I'm so bad at like finishing shows 393 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 2: because there's so many shows that come out and I'm like, 394 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 2: that's right, rap, shit, that's right these other shows. And 395 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 2: the second season has been really good too. 396 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean, why don't you support black women 397 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 3: for the long? 398 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 2: Oh wow, put me off with me in that hot seat? 399 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 2: No way, not today, No, I'm just with you. No. 400 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 2: But it's been good. 401 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 3: It's I think it's dope to just kind of watch 402 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 3: it and I don't know, and I think I would 403 00:20:56,200 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 3: like to see more of a comment area on the 404 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 3: Wrap ecosystem for like women right right now. Yeah, of course, 405 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 3: NICKI just dropped Pink Friday too, and so I'm curious 406 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 3: what a character based off of Nicki would look like 407 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 3: in that context too. 408 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and are they prepared for Nicky's response to being 409 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 2: portrayed as a character. That's the thing, right, Yeah, NICKI 410 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 2: is a character, right, I mean it's just like one 411 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 2: of those I mean, I feel like we're always saying this, 412 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 2: especially about like black lead shows, is the marketing is 413 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 2: always just like what where's the where the billboards? Where 414 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 2: are the advertisements? Because like half the time it's like 415 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 2: all through you know, like social networking or whatever that 416 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 2: you're hearing about shows and rather than like the traditional 417 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 2: we're gonna smash this message into your head with like 418 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 2: NonStop advertisements on YouTube, on like websites or whatever. Yeah. 419 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, the only one that's that has got the full 420 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 3: push behind it is Avid Elementary, right, Like that's the 421 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 3: only one. I felt like in recent years that's just 422 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 3: like people have been like we're going to elevate this 423 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 3: and exhaust this, and like they're getting awards. I got 424 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 3: to meet Sheryl Lee Ralph a few months. 425 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 2: Ago, and she was sold out. She seems like the 426 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 2: kind of person when she seems like she's the same 427 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 2: person that you see like on screen, but like a 428 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 2: human version in real life too. Is that kind of 429 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 2: the p energy. Yeah. 430 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 3: I mean she's just like encouraging Auntie and just like 431 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 3: with the shits and everything. 432 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like that show was such a hit 433 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: that like they couldn't fucking they couldn't not market it 434 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: and like put it out in front. 435 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 2: But yeah, rap shit. 436 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 1: I remember seeing the preview at the end of insecurity, 437 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: like they were they were like, and this is the 438 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: next thing, this is the next thing to watch. 439 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 2: And I saw that one preview. 440 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: I've never heard about it again until just right now. 441 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 2: So okay check this out. Yeah, I fully Yeah. 442 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 3: And then of course, you know, Beyonce is very underrated, 443 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 3: So do you see the movie? 444 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 2: Of course I was. 445 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 3: It was great, fabulous. 446 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 2: I enjoyed it. 447 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 3: I enjoyed the process of like seeing her create it, 448 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 3: and I mean just the way that they kind of 449 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 3: take you through the show and then she she does 450 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 3: include some moments of imperfection, you know, but it's still Beyonce, 451 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 3: so it's still like perfect imperfection, right right right. It's like, yes, 452 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 3: all the sounds, all the sound went off in the 453 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 3: in the studio or in the stadium when you are 454 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 3: in it, but you also just still look flawless. 455 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 7: And hit every mark so right, still made it work. 456 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, wow, So that was encouraging as Beyonce. As 457 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 7: the Virgo does, as the Virgo dies. 458 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,239 Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break and we'll come 459 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: back and hit some news story. We'll be right back, 460 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: and we're back, And there's a lawsuit that was getting 461 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: intention in Texas over their horrifying abortion laws. 462 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 2: Yeah. Real, insidious, fucked up, confusing, cruel, every I mean, 463 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 2: whatever word you want to use. So this woman, Kate Cox, 464 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 2: had the misfortune of being alive in Texas basically at 465 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 2: a time where the laws are draconian and confusing, except 466 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 2: for the fact that they're basically intended to punish people 467 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 2: for exercising any kind of bodily autonomy. And you know, 468 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 2: she's had two children with her husband, and then tragically, 469 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 2: her most recent pregnancy was complicated with this diagnosis of 470 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 2: trisomy eighteen, which is an untreatable lethal genetic anomaly. And 471 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 2: so in any humane state, you know, this Kate Cox 472 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 2: would be free to have an abortion and bring an 473 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 2: end to a very painful medical personal saga. But since 474 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,199 Speaker 2: she's in Texas, she had to be the first person 475 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 2: since Roe versus Wade in nineteen seventy three to sue 476 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 2: in order to request permission for the procedure, and so 477 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 2: I'm just like the rest of the story kind of 478 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 2: plays like this, because there's like a lot of back 479 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 2: and forth where we end up with just like it's 480 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 2: just you're like, what the fuck is going on? So 481 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 2: she sued, and the Travis County District Judge Maya Gara 482 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 2: Gamble issued a temporary restraining order on the grounds that 483 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 2: Cox's life was in fact her life and ability to 484 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 2: have children were at risk. So she was like, Okay, 485 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm issuing this temporary restraining order. Hours later, 486 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 2: the legendary piece of crap ag Ken Paxton gets involved. 487 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 2: I don't know how he's still in office, like with 488 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 2: all these investigations and his shit. Anyway, he gets involved 489 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,199 Speaker 2: and claims that Cox actually acted illegally under Texas law 490 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 2: and warned the hospitals and doctors involved with her care 491 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 2: that they would be opened a felony prosecution. So they're like, 492 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 2: oh shit, Okay. Then, so at that point Cox said 493 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 2: I'm off this. She flees the state to go have 494 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 2: the abortion because she wasn't willing to wait for the 495 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 2: courts to decide her basically her fate, And while this 496 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 2: was happening, Paxton then petitioned the state Supreme Court and 497 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 2: they a few days later, the Supreme Court overturned the 498 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 2: lower court's decision. And this is the really fucked up part, right. 499 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 2: They overturned the decision not because they don't think she 500 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,239 Speaker 2: needs the care, but because their sort of cheatment is, well, 501 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 2: she just messed up by trying to sue her way 502 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 2: into an abortion. They said, quote, a woman who meets 503 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 2: the medical necessity exception need not seek a court order 504 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 2: to obtain an abortion. Under the law, it is a 505 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 2: doctor who must decide that a woman is suffering from 506 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 2: a life threatening condition during pregnancy, raising the necessity for 507 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 2: an abortion to save her life or to prevent impairment 508 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 2: of a major bodily function. The law leaves it. The 509 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 2: law leaves to physicians, not judges, both the discretion and 510 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,239 Speaker 2: the responsibility to exercise there. This is the key phrase here, 511 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 2: reasonable medical judgment, right, given the unique facts and circumstances 512 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 2: of each patient. So they're saying, hey, we're not trying 513 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 2: to meddle in a doctor's decision. Are you look like 514 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 2: the bad guy? Here, what's your fucking problem? Now you're 515 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 2: making me angry? Oh my, well, now I don't know 516 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 2: what to do. Now now I'm teed off. Because really, 517 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 2: as long as the doctor is using their reasonable medical judgment, 518 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 2: like then everything is all good. It almost makes you 519 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 2: feel like it's a good thing. But the term is 520 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 2: so problematically vague. It's essentially like daring doctors to perform 521 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 2: an abortion, since a judge technically can't give permission or 522 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 2: give guarantees to a doctor or hospital that they will 523 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 2: not be like, there will not be legal penalties for this. 524 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 2: But that way, the doctors could very easily go from 525 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 2: fucking around and entering the find out phase if a 526 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 2: prosecutor just feels the urge to pursue charges. So it's 527 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 2: like this very very like it's just such a cat 528 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 2: twenty two of cruelty that, yeah, this is all happening 529 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 2: against this backdrop. Luckily, from what we've heard, she's had 530 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 2: her procedure, she's recovering, and it's just unfortunate that she, 531 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 2: you know, had to go all through all of this 532 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 2: just for the court to come background and be like, well, actually, 533 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 2: I don't know if you actually have any to say 534 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 2: so and what to do with your own body. 535 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: I told them to go ahead and make my day. 536 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 1: There was a very friendly thing for me to do 537 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: when I said that, you know, ignoring the fact that 538 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: I was holding a giant gun on. 539 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 3: Them is basically yeah, yeah, I mean, it's I mean, 540 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 3: it's so disgusting the the fights from conservatives to keep 541 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 3: people from owning what happens to their body. And even 542 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 3: with the evidence that there are life threatening situations where 543 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 3: this is necessary care like abortion access is necessary. Yeah, 544 00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 3: they're still so callous in their attacks on folks, and 545 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 3: it's just annoying. I mean. And these are also the 546 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 3: same folks, especially in Texas, that are saying, you know, 547 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 3: trans function have access to healthcare that impacts our lives, 548 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 3: right right that I mean Ken Paxson is one of 549 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 3: the same officials that basically called for investigating families that 550 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 3: are affirming of trans youth. 551 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 2: Right. So, these folks are disgusting. 552 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 3: But I think these moments are opportunities for us to 553 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 3: understand how so many of these attacks are intersect with 554 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 3: each other absolutely, you know, and those down ballid races. 555 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 3: I know, we were harping on the presidential part of 556 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 3: the elections coming up, But these down ballid races really matter, 557 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 3: especially in these states, these battleground. 558 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 2: States, because yeah, like for I'm sure a lot of 559 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 2: politicians too, it's like they're running in like maybe a 560 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 2: purple district, don't want to be forceful about talking about 561 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 2: reaffirming body autonomy for whether that's for people seeking abortions 562 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 2: or gender affirming care whatever. They don't want to they 563 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 2: don't want to wade into that, and they don't say 564 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 2: anything or say like they don't want to touch an 565 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 2: issue like that. But when we don't have people advocating 566 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 2: for these rights, it's these kinds of like you have 567 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 2: to think that these are the realities that lived outcomes 568 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 2: for people when we don't have our representatives advocating for 569 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 2: all of us to make sure that we're saying, well, 570 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 2: here's a baseline of care that we have to establish 571 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 2: for every person, or these are the basic human rights 572 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 2: that you have. And so when you don't say things 573 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,239 Speaker 2: like that to me, I'm hearing you don't care if 574 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 2: people lose their lives, or you don't care if people 575 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 2: aren't able to live their life in the way that 576 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 2: gives them the most peace and most happiness. And the 577 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 2: most fulfilling and yeah, like I think that's where some 578 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 2: people it's easy to maybe brush aside sort of issues 579 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 2: like this, but it they translate into real life tragedy, 580 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 2: like tragic stories like this where a woman is like 581 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 2: asking a court if like she can save her own 582 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 2: life and they're like, well, yeah, I mean, but you 583 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 2: didn't ask the right way. Yeah, but I guess, and 584 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 2: then they have to go. In one of the articles, 585 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 2: it is wow to hear how it was described as 586 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 2: she had to go to a free state to get 587 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 2: an abortion, and I'm like, whoa, my god, we're using 588 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 2: this kind of language again. Okay, okay, so why did 589 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 2: you go to why did you go to the courts? 590 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 2: You're acting hysterically, You're right, what are you doing? Just 591 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 2: talk to your doctor, who we will sue and put 592 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 2: in prison. It's the doctor who is the one that 593 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 2: will determine it, not the legislators who created these laws 594 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 2: like made it illegal. What are you talking with You're 595 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 2: just being You're you're being crazy. Yeah, that's what that's 596 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 2: what it feels. 597 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: That's his energy is there will there be a wave 598 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: of these people like getting kicked out of office, like 599 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 1: what once because because it is like bodily autonomy is 600 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: such a pop like a winning political issue. Yeah, like 601 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: are well, when is this motherfucker back up for you know, 602 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: to like it feels like a with an easy thing 603 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: for the Democratic the Democrats to win on. Now obviously 604 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: they're able to fuck up an easy election like it's 605 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: their job, but does. 606 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 2: Feel like I don't know, hopefully there will be these 607 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 2: people will be swept out of office, like as it 608 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 2: becomes as their record on like restricting body autonomy, yeah, 609 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 2: come reaches the ballot. It's a tough one. I feel 610 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 2: like on some cases, when you have something like a 611 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 2: ballot proposition or something that changes like the state's constitution, 612 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 2: it's easy for everybody to be like yeah, yeah, yeah, fine, fine. 613 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 2: But then I think because you know, in those instances, 614 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 2: you definitely have Republicans voting to affirm those kinds of things. 615 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 2: They're like yeah, you know, okay, like we yeah, change 616 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 2: the constitution. But then if it came down to like 617 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 2: a down ballot race, I don't know if that's that 618 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 2: criteria will matter as much if they're kind of like 619 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 2: I don't want to vote for a Democrat, like you know, 620 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 2: voting for a Democrat versus just voting to say I 621 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 2: believe that the constitution should say that you have a 622 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 2: right to an abortion, you know, And I think that's 623 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 2: where it gets a little tricky for people, and then 624 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 2: you know, the cognitive dissonance kicks in. 625 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and there have been some wins, like 626 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 3: even this year, like in Ohio there. 627 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 2: Was a win adding red state. 628 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, adding the right to abortion and to 629 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 3: their state constitutions. So I mean it's just hard in 630 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 3: those battleground states. I mean from you know, we know 631 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 3: that there were issues tampering with votes and you know, 632 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 3: with some of these machines and everything. Not to give 633 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 3: any credence to the bs that Trump spews, right, but 634 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 3: there is like particularly voter suppression. 635 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 2: That's just openly one of their techicsperience. 636 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 3: Right, but it's overwhelmingly used by them, right, So it's 637 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 3: a projection that it's happening more on the other side. 638 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, yeah, So I mean we have again it 639 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 2: is good. Like I was talking to a friend of 640 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 2: mine who works in like abortion advocacy, and I would say, like, 641 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 2: I it's got to be like bitter sweet, right because 642 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 2: even though like these state legislatures are enacting these laws 643 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 2: when it comes to a vote, like people are like 644 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 2: they're they're taking l's every time when it comes to 645 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 2: trying to deny people those rights. And they were just 646 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 2: sort of saying like, yeah, like it's it's nice, but 647 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 2: the fact that we even had to start over is 648 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 2: just really the hardest fucking part of it all is 649 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 2: because we're truly like we're trying to put fires out 650 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 2: constantly everywhere to try and make sure people aren't, you know, 651 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 2: having to take risks with their own life to exercise 652 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 2: their own human rights. So yeah, yeah, I. 653 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 3: Mean, it's it's just ridiculous. But I mean, I hope 654 00:34:55,640 --> 00:35:00,720 Speaker 3: that people will understand that they're all connected to these issues, 655 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 3: right like everybody is. Destiny is kind of on the 656 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 3: chopping block when any of us can't access to the 657 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 3: healthcare we need. 658 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 1: Absolutely, Yeah, all right, let's take a quick break and 659 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 1: we'll be right back. And we're back, and we're back, 660 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: and Ohio, you know, they they strayed from the path. 661 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 1: They were a red state and they strayed over to 662 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: try and be a green state, and they're about to 663 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 1: reap the rewards, about to feel feel the burn of 664 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: the devil's whip. 665 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 2: Something like this. 666 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,479 Speaker 1: That's the worst smell you'll ever That's what the cup 667 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 1: at my Dare program in Dayton, Ohio did. Is he 668 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: me smell a weed pipe. That's the worst smell you'll 669 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: ever smell. That smells pretty fucking good, you said, yumy, 670 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 1: Like I don't smoke weed now, but that smells great. 671 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 2: Well, you know, like like we were saying. Right in Ohio, 672 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 2: not only did they codify abortion access to their constitution, 673 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 2: the voters there also they passed a measure legalizing marijuana possession, 674 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 2: growing in sales for anyone over twenty one. And obviously, 675 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 2: you know there's almost like twenty three ish four states 676 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,800 Speaker 2: already that have recreational laws on their books. But you know, 677 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 2: this was a moment for a woman named Aubrey Adams, 678 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:46,919 Speaker 2: the director of the anti weed organization Every Brain Matters Shit, 679 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 2: to go to a the state center had a general 680 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 2: Government committee meeting where they were basically taking public comment, 681 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 2: and she took that moment to let really just warn 682 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 2: everybody that marijuana a bomb is about to go off 683 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 2: in the state if something isn't done, so I will 684 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,919 Speaker 2: let Aubrey Atoms take it away. 685 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 6: Ohio voters were fooled into thinking marijuana is less harmful 686 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:17,240 Speaker 6: than alcohol. It's not. One swallow of alcohol can induce 687 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 6: psychotic behaviors. 688 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 3: One one hit. 689 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 6: Can, and two hits from marijuana bong can. That's what 690 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 6: happened to brim Space Shier in Thousand Oaks, California. 691 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 2: This goes down a list of people who smoked a 692 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,760 Speaker 2: marijuana bong twice and then. 693 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 1: Like committed crimes well like out of their mind on 694 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 1: marijuana bods. 695 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I. 696 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: Would just love comparison of the statistics of people who 697 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 1: committed crime due to marijuana, the people who committed crime 698 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 1: or drove drunk due to alcohol, and how many lives 699 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,839 Speaker 1: were lost, just in a comparison for people driving twenty 700 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 1: miles below the speed limit because they're too high. 701 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,799 Speaker 2: Just people, I mean loosely right, Excessive drinking causes more 702 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,360 Speaker 2: than one hundred and forty thousand deaths per year in 703 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 2: the United State States, you know what I mean? And 704 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,760 Speaker 2: I think, while yes, there are there there is something 705 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 2: like the evidence that high doses of THC could leak 706 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 2: cause temporary episodes that is far from being like the norm. Yeah, 707 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 2: And also you know, I think it is commendable to 708 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,439 Speaker 2: care about the impact that this may have on youth 709 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 2: or whatever, because clearly, like kids are getting into edibles 710 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,359 Speaker 2: a lot more. That's like the one statistic that does 711 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 2: go up when like there is legalizations, Like kids are 712 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 2: finding adults edibles and then getting fucking ripped off of 713 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 2: them and then go to the hospital and shit like that. 714 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 2: I think that is something absolutely that you can put 715 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,800 Speaker 2: your attention on. But this whole thing, this feel like 716 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 2: this like round of fear mongering to me, doesn't really 717 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,839 Speaker 2: feel like we're trying to keep kids away, but here 718 00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 2: trying to feel feels a little bit like we're trying 719 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,320 Speaker 2: to maintain the status quo where weed is a drug 720 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 2: and then a drug that you know mostly sees black 721 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,359 Speaker 2: and brown people put in jail. I mean her her 722 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 2: organization is called Every Brain Matters, So it feels like 723 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,479 Speaker 2: some All Brain Matters. It feels like some all lives 724 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 2: matter type shit for demonizing weeds and like oh no, no, 725 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 2: no no. But the website has a cool T shirt 726 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 2: that says even zombies like healthy brains. Doesn't she go 727 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 2: on to be. 728 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,240 Speaker 1: Like two hits or maybe it was in that quote 729 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 1: two hits off a marijuana bong can do that, and she. 730 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,320 Speaker 2: Goes on to she elaborates about someone who took to 731 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 2: more than two hits off a marijuana bomb. 732 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:42,399 Speaker 1: Yes, and then I will say the closest I've ever 733 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,879 Speaker 1: felt to any sort of like you know, being out 734 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 1: of control of my own mental capacities was being too 735 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:55,360 Speaker 1: high and it lasted for a couple hours, and I 736 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:59,279 Speaker 1: learned not to get too high anymore. And granted, like 737 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 1: I I think there are you know, for kids, it 738 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,919 Speaker 1: can be really fucked up, and you know, some people 739 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 1: who have pre existing conditions, it can be bad for them. 740 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: I would say the same thing is true of like 741 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 1: getting drunk, you know, right. So it just in comparing 742 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 1: these two things, I feel like in my experience when 743 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,800 Speaker 1: I got too high, I wanted to disappear completely and 744 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 1: did my best to do that and just like go 745 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 1: in a room by myself and freak out about what 746 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,840 Speaker 1: people were saying about me. And then when I drank 747 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:35,800 Speaker 1: too much, I was a menace to myself and others. 748 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,400 Speaker 1: So it's just interesting that this is what she has 749 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 1: chosen to attack, and that she specifically raised alcohol as 750 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:44,399 Speaker 1: a thing. 751 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:49,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I just I feel like the us, like 752 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 3: we just have a horrible way of like talking about 753 00:40:55,680 --> 00:41:01,720 Speaker 3: nuance and just in general, Like when I think about 754 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,400 Speaker 3: being a young kid and you know, there was like 755 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 3: dare and like all that stuff. It's like the idea 756 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:13,800 Speaker 3: that there's this binary of indulging or not indulging, like 757 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 3: indulging too much and not indulging. It doesn't really reflect 758 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,239 Speaker 3: the real lives of people. Like if we have like 759 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 3: this healthier understanding of like you're probably gonna drink, you know, 760 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:32,320 Speaker 3: like in other countries where the drinking age doesn't have 761 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:37,479 Speaker 3: to be like ninety for like folks to understand maybe 762 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,480 Speaker 3: what their relationship should be. And I don't know those statistics, 763 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,880 Speaker 3: so I'm not an expert in that, but I just 764 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,800 Speaker 3: feel like we just got to be realistic with young folks, 765 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,279 Speaker 3: like you're probably gonna drink. This is what makes sense, right. 766 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,800 Speaker 3: You got to listen to your body, figure out what 767 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 3: works for you as you become of age and work 768 00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 3: through it. 769 00:41:58,040 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 2: But the idea that you won't. 770 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,840 Speaker 3: Ever drink or you won't ever smoke, it's just pass. 771 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 2: It's same thing with like sex education too, is this 772 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 2: sort of yeah, I don't know you better, I'm not 773 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 2: gonna tell you we're not gonna tell you anything about that. 774 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,920 Speaker 2: And then what's going on with all these like unwanted 775 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,879 Speaker 2: pregnancies or things like that, or people like not being 776 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 2: completely unaware of how safe sex is or what sex is. 777 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 2: Or I remember the other day I was at a 778 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 2: farmer's market and I heard these teens arguing about safe sex, 779 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,359 Speaker 2: and it was the wildest shit I had ever heard 780 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:32,439 Speaker 2: in my life, Like like this one young girl told 781 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,920 Speaker 2: other ones. She's like, oh yeah, like pulling out is 782 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 2: like ninety eight percent effective. She said that shit with 783 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 2: a straight face. And my partner her mouth for you to. 784 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 5: You know, we were walking by and we were like 785 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 5: I almost like no, Like I was, I didn't want 786 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:48,800 Speaker 5: to be like, you know, I'm not going to be 787 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,400 Speaker 5: there like the nearly forty year old dude just pulling 788 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 5: up to some teenager like. 789 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,759 Speaker 2: Oh, yo yo, who told you that? Who told you that? 790 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,879 Speaker 2: But it was like a moment where like I heard 791 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 2: these like three kids. One was very forceful about and 792 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,400 Speaker 2: the other two were like oh really, And I was like, 793 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 2: oh no, y'all, no, this is not it. 794 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,719 Speaker 3: This is And it was probably like some guy that 795 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 3: she was messing with that's hold herd that was probably. 796 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,800 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure one hundred percent of 797 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 2: the misinformation about the effectiveness of pulling out comes from 798 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 2: fucking dudes. That's just I think, Yeah, that's I think 799 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 2: that's a universal truth. But I mean, like, yeah, to 800 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,760 Speaker 2: your point, we have such a like this puritanical outlook 801 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 2: on so many things that it all it does is 802 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 2: obscure things for kids or create these like really unhealthy 803 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 2: relationships to them. Like so if something is like so 804 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,879 Speaker 2: exotic or like been demonized as a kid, and then 805 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 2: you get out of the house, yeah, it's completely different. 806 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,720 Speaker 2: It's completely different because you don't know what you're gonna 807 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,360 Speaker 2: do or what you're about to get into if you 808 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,920 Speaker 2: come from a place or house that wasn't willing to 809 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:51,320 Speaker 2: discuss things open. 810 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,520 Speaker 3: Right, and like if you do get in trouble, you 811 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:58,320 Speaker 3: do get wasted or super high and you need someone 812 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 3: to pick you up, Like you can't call like your 813 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 3: parents in general, because they're gonna freak out. And it's like, yeah, 814 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 3: maybe if you were just listening and understanding, right, Yeah, 815 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:12,680 Speaker 3: a different story. 816 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I had very like my parents are 817 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 2: very they were very much on like, look, don't fuck 818 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 2: your life. Up, but they're like, we know. My dad 819 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 2: would be like, do not drink a bunch of champagne. 820 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,239 Speaker 2: He's like, the last thing you want to do. It's 821 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 2: like one of the first things he told me, Like, 822 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,719 Speaker 2: it's gonna you will be so hungover the first the 823 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:33,280 Speaker 2: very that's. 824 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 1: The best example of the thing I was saying earlier. 825 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,400 Speaker 1: That tastes good in your mouth and then in your stomach. 826 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 1: It's like, whoa boy, what is happening down here? 827 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:45,880 Speaker 2: Yeah? Exactly. Immediate cut to my first fucked up hangover, 828 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,239 Speaker 2: Like drinking high school. I drink like almost like a 829 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 2: three quarters of a bottle of Southern Comfort. Yeah, and 830 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 2: the sugar in that you say, yeah, I was like, 831 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,920 Speaker 2: there wasn't on the list or whatever. However, I was willing. 832 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 2: Like my parents, we're also like, please, don't ever feel 833 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 2: like you cannot call us to get you out of 834 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,239 Speaker 2: a situation, Like even if you think we're gonna get 835 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,520 Speaker 2: mad at you, like, we don't want you to feel 836 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 2: like you have no options. So for that I am 837 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,839 Speaker 2: grateful because they were open enough to be like, look, 838 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,120 Speaker 2: we might we might get in your ass afterwards, but 839 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 2: at least give us the chance to maybe take you 840 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,279 Speaker 2: out of a bad situation. I only I never did 841 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,600 Speaker 2: it though, never did it because I feared my parents. 842 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:31,440 Speaker 3: Never said that, my my Catholic, devout parents. I almost 843 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,360 Speaker 3: got in trouble after going to a party and coming 844 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:38,640 Speaker 3: back and smelling like as my mom would say, refer 845 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 3: and I didn't even know what it smelled like, Like 846 00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,359 Speaker 3: that was like one of the only parties I ever 847 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 3: went to in high school. And I was like, well, shit, 848 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:49,759 Speaker 3: you know, like I'm going to get in trouble and 849 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 3: I didn't even get to have fun in that. 850 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,040 Speaker 2: Way, right, you know, Oh, you should have talked to 851 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:56,880 Speaker 2: my dare officer. He let me smell it. 852 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,920 Speaker 1: I will say one thing related to this, Clearly label 853 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 1: your edibles. If you're gonna put a tray of edibles 854 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,279 Speaker 1: out at a holiday party, for instance, and you don't 855 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,879 Speaker 1: want somebody, a middle aged person. 856 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 2: To have to leave on a stretcher. Yeah that maybe 857 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,759 Speaker 2: maybe clearly level bows that's getting I've seen that more 858 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,399 Speaker 2: and more. Yeah, I just states that have rec where 859 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 2: there's like they'll always be like an edible tray, and 860 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,799 Speaker 2: I'm like, what I'm like, the last thing I want 861 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,920 Speaker 2: to do is eat edibles at a party, Like you 862 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:31,960 Speaker 2: want to just curl up on the couch and watch TV. 863 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 2: They had that ship out like it was a candy 864 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,480 Speaker 2: like bowl, like a It is not not good, right. 865 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:38,799 Speaker 5: Right, right? 866 00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,759 Speaker 3: And I wish this woman what was her name again. 867 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,160 Speaker 2: Aubrey, Aubrey, I was gonna say, Aubrey O day. 868 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 3: From had the perfect opportunity to talk about how deadly 869 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:50,920 Speaker 3: Panera bread is. 870 00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:57,279 Speaker 2: Right, she blew it right. I know the caffeine we 871 00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,759 Speaker 2: were just we were touching on that the other day. 872 00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 2: But I mean for people who don't know, we talked 873 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,120 Speaker 2: about this story about how one young woman like had 874 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,239 Speaker 2: who had a heart condition like passed away from drinking 875 00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,920 Speaker 2: all of those charged lemonades. Then another dude died he 876 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,879 Speaker 2: had three three in the car, three in the car. 877 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:17,040 Speaker 2: Heart stop. Yo, still have not had one. 878 00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:18,840 Speaker 1: And I'm very proud of myself because that is the 879 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:23,279 Speaker 1: sort of shit I would normally be all over Yeah, yeah, 880 00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:25,000 Speaker 1: all right. 881 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 2: Should we talk about human dog beds? Please? Please? Quel? 882 00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:31,520 Speaker 2: What do you know about? What do you know about 883 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 2: the human dog bed. 884 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:36,319 Speaker 3: Under? 885 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:37,920 Speaker 6: What is this? 886 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,560 Speaker 2: So this is all over TikTok in the past year, 887 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,040 Speaker 2: like the idea, I think, I think, like I first 888 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:48,480 Speaker 2: saw about I think super producer on Josie was like this, like, 889 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,680 Speaker 2: then send it to all of us future. This is 890 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 2: the future. It very well may be. 891 00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 1: Burger King is marketing a two hundred dollars bun shaped 892 00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:02,680 Speaker 1: dog bed for humans, partnering with plus pluffyle Plufful company 893 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:06,279 Speaker 1: built on the notion that, yeah, that is a chill name, 894 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:07,240 Speaker 1: isn't it pluffy. 895 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,480 Speaker 2: She's back in, She's back in, Oh Plufful, I'm not 896 00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 2: back in. 897 00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,520 Speaker 3: I can I you know, just like, at the risk 898 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:20,719 Speaker 3: of alienating folks, this sounds like peak white culture. I 899 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,040 Speaker 3: just want to name that, but. 900 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:23,879 Speaker 2: Oh, you're way off. 901 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:29,000 Speaker 1: Two Canadian university students, after one of them noticed a 902 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,920 Speaker 1: dog comfortably sleeping and a custom made doug that at 903 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:40,560 Speaker 1: a campus coffee shops not white at all, where like, hey, 904 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,640 Speaker 1: that kind of looks comfortable, they were I think business 905 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:48,520 Speaker 1: students are like economic students, and so took their idea 906 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,320 Speaker 1: to Shark Tank and got two hundred thousand dollars for 907 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,920 Speaker 1: twenty percent of the company, And then the beds went 908 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:58,520 Speaker 1: viral on TikTok and even before the burger King thing, 909 00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:03,279 Speaker 1: CBS called the regular, non burger King version of the bed. 910 00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:07,800 Speaker 1: The viral Christmas gift of twenty twenty three. But I 911 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:13,320 Speaker 1: just I think this is I think people want this, 912 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:14,640 Speaker 1: Like is this. 913 00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:18,320 Speaker 3: Like a bean bag? Like is that like a bean bag? 914 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,719 Speaker 3: Or like what happens to futons, you know, like or 915 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:22,399 Speaker 3: day bad. 916 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,799 Speaker 2: Right, they're so easy to roll out of. I guess 917 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,880 Speaker 2: this has little sides like a little pouch that you 918 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,200 Speaker 2: can just throw up in. Right, you could go full 919 00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,160 Speaker 2: fetal and no, there's no risk of going out. Do 920 00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,360 Speaker 2: you think Jack, this is we want to be we 921 00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:38,160 Speaker 2: want to be pets? 922 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,920 Speaker 1: I think we I think this is like the beginning 923 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:47,480 Speaker 1: of something awful that is going to happen to white people. 924 00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:51,560 Speaker 1: I think they're I think we are. We want like 925 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:55,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna start eating like like dog bowls of treats 926 00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,160 Speaker 1: off of the ground. I think we're going to have 927 00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,040 Speaker 1: a human dog walker who comes and takes us to 928 00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,640 Speaker 1: the park and like runs us around, which is just 929 00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,839 Speaker 1: like a personal trainer, but like with less pressure. They 930 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,759 Speaker 1: don't look like as ripped as a personal trainer. They're 931 00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,800 Speaker 1: just like someone who's like all right, run back and 932 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,120 Speaker 1: forth and like throws a ball that you can chase. 933 00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,320 Speaker 1: They'll they'll take you around on leisure off depending on 934 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,399 Speaker 1: what you're into. But yeah, just having someone come sit 935 00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,600 Speaker 1: next to you and like pet you in a totally 936 00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:25,960 Speaker 1: non sexual way. 937 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:30,080 Speaker 2: Like Drew Barrymore did to Oprah. Did she what did 938 00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,000 Speaker 2: you see that? No, she was like she was Oprah 939 00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,560 Speaker 2: was on her show and she was caressing Oprah while 940 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:37,520 Speaker 2: talking to her, and everybody's like, what the fuck is. 941 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:46,960 Speaker 3: Is interesting? I don't There's something about the way that 942 00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:50,920 Speaker 3: she reaches out to like build intimacy with folks physically 943 00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,239 Speaker 3: when she's interviewing them that fills like. 944 00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:56,360 Speaker 2: Robotic. 945 00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:01,560 Speaker 3: It's weird, it's I should touch you this point right. 946 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,279 Speaker 2: It feels like a like an ai is trying to 947 00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:05,280 Speaker 2: pretend it's human. 948 00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, like this is like this is this is her 949 00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:12,440 Speaker 3: open I'm available, I can do it. She's like something 950 00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,040 Speaker 3: that I break her hands. 951 00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,360 Speaker 2: She's holding her arms with Oprah, like. 952 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:25,200 Speaker 1: How do you do this to the Queen of England? 953 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:29,000 Speaker 1: Because you're doing it to the Queen of the United 954 00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:33,400 Speaker 1: States and it's trying to get away. She's like adjusted 955 00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,800 Speaker 1: like get the fuck off of me, please. 956 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:41,400 Speaker 3: This is what I think white women do. And like 957 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,400 Speaker 3: when you're drunk in the restroom. 958 00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:47,600 Speaker 2: And like you're like this en daring or are you 959 00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:51,680 Speaker 2: gonna murder me? Like what are you doing right deep 960 00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:52,160 Speaker 2: in your eyes? 961 00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:56,719 Speaker 1: I think I think just people are people just want 962 00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:00,160 Speaker 1: Like this came up in one of the story we 963 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,040 Speaker 1: covered about like dating sites and like the some of 964 00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,759 Speaker 1: the weird things of like get yourself like a high 965 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,080 Speaker 1: earning like partner. 966 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,560 Speaker 2: Oh, high value male, high value male, high. 967 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:14,440 Speaker 1: Value female, like all that bullshit. But like it comes 968 00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:18,200 Speaker 1: back to people just want to get any excuse to 969 00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,520 Speaker 1: get out of the fucking bullshit of day to day 970 00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:25,439 Speaker 1: life in America, like having to like you know, work 971 00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:30,840 Speaker 1: and deal with you know, work with the threat of dying, 972 00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:35,360 Speaker 1: like and you know, be it not being being unhoused 973 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:39,360 Speaker 1: like that that's stressful as fuck. Like and that's what 974 00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,799 Speaker 1: life in America is. Is like if oh, you lose 975 00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:46,080 Speaker 1: your job or you have an injury and your health 976 00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,160 Speaker 1: insurance doesn't cover it, like you're fucked. 977 00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,239 Speaker 2: So it's a lot. And like it doesn't surprise me 978 00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,200 Speaker 2: that people are like, you know, what looks good is 979 00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:59,120 Speaker 2: like my dog's life, right, No, because I think, like, 980 00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,520 Speaker 2: you know, it's not that people want to be like 981 00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,000 Speaker 2: a quadruped or something and take a shit in a 982 00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,880 Speaker 2: park or something. They want the pet lifestyle, like to 983 00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:12,080 Speaker 2: your point, like, yeah, look, I'm not trying to yuck 984 00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:13,880 Speaker 2: anybody's young, but I think what this really is to 985 00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:17,080 Speaker 2: your point, it's like you want to have the pet lifestyle, 986 00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:18,600 Speaker 2: meaning you don't want to you don't like you're not 987 00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:22,120 Speaker 2: having to work, no responsibility except to clean yourself, sleep 988 00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,520 Speaker 2: and eat. Like there are times I remember going out, 989 00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:26,839 Speaker 2: like going to work, leaving the house and don't look 990 00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:28,960 Speaker 2: at my dog or my cats, just like laying down 991 00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:30,560 Speaker 2: all fucking day. And I'm like, oh, y'all think you 992 00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,840 Speaker 2: got it made huh Okay, I see you guys. And 993 00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:37,319 Speaker 2: then in my mind, I'm like, but that's balling, that's yeah, 994 00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:39,920 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And so I think it's 995 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:43,279 Speaker 2: it's a rejection of the toil, but in a cute, 996 00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,080 Speaker 2: comfy way. Yeah, but I think, but it's weird because 997 00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,840 Speaker 2: it's the most literal version. It's like, you know, we 998 00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:50,839 Speaker 2: could maybe try and get a little more active out there, 999 00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:52,720 Speaker 2: and we can. I mean, I get it, man, we're 1000 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,640 Speaker 2: trying to advocate for ourselves ever we can. And some 1001 00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:56,920 Speaker 2: people have just arrived at the dog bed point where 1002 00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:58,200 Speaker 2: they're like I'll just. 1003 00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:02,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's their young I think we're just preparing 1004 00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:06,439 Speaker 3: for the AI takeover and the robot robot takeover. 1005 00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:12,239 Speaker 2: Your chats. They're not going to take over our ship though, Nay, 1006 00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:17,040 Speaker 2: I going to replicate us. We're so good. Yeah, we're 1007 00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:20,480 Speaker 2: so good that we are so good. We are so 1008 00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:22,359 Speaker 2: good at this rock. 1009 00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:28,160 Speaker 1: Well, Raquel will it's such a pleasure having you on 1010 00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,839 Speaker 1: the show. Where can people find you? Follow you, read 1011 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:33,480 Speaker 1: you all that good stuff. 1012 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:38,719 Speaker 3: Well, don't read me too hard. You can find me 1013 00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:42,279 Speaker 3: at Roquel Willis dot com. My memoir The Risk It 1014 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:47,120 Speaker 3: Takes to Bloom, all about my experience growing up in 1015 00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:51,799 Speaker 3: the South queer and into my trans identity and then 1016 00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:52,399 Speaker 3: my work. 1017 00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:54,279 Speaker 2: You'll find it all there. 1018 00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:59,040 Speaker 3: And then check out my podcast Afterlives, which focuses on 1019 00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:03,720 Speaker 3: the life and life legacy of Leileen Polanco and Afro Latina, 1020 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:07,160 Speaker 3: who died in Ryker's custody, which is really heavy note 1021 00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:11,040 Speaker 3: to end on, but we have some glimmers of hope 1022 00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,000 Speaker 3: in the series, so it's not all doom and gloom. 1023 00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:16,680 Speaker 2: Go check it out. And you got another show it's 1024 00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:18,839 Speaker 2: coming up too, and another show. 1025 00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:24,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, So stay tuned for Queer Chronicles, which follows the 1026 00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:28,720 Speaker 3: experiences of queer and Trans te teens and red States, 1027 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:34,560 Speaker 3: so it'll be an important political year kind of glimpse 1028 00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:35,520 Speaker 3: into their lives. 1029 00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:36,400 Speaker 2: And what was it like. 1030 00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,960 Speaker 3: Producing that show? I mean, one of the things that 1031 00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:45,600 Speaker 3: I've been very interested in is like how we get 1032 00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:49,520 Speaker 3: young folks to tell their stories on their own terms. 1033 00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:53,040 Speaker 3: I mean, I was I was listening to All about 1034 00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:57,520 Speaker 3: Love by Bell Hooks because I'm that girl, and not 1035 00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:01,239 Speaker 3: to be extra, but listening to it, and she was 1036 00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:08,320 Speaker 3: talking about how like youth in our society really don't 1037 00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,120 Speaker 3: have full rights, like we don't really see them as 1038 00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,959 Speaker 3: full human beings. And I think that that's so true, 1039 00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:17,880 Speaker 3: Like we often filter their experiences through our like MOULDI 1040 00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:21,960 Speaker 3: old adult lens, and so especially for Clear and transis 1041 00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,239 Speaker 3: like they deserve to speak for themselves, not have conservative 1042 00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:30,160 Speaker 3: politicians who don't have the range trying to talk about 1043 00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:35,080 Speaker 3: their experiences and then not having adults be all paternalistic 1044 00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,120 Speaker 3: and we got to defend and protect you because you 1045 00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:44,080 Speaker 3: can't suit for yourself, right, Yeah, yeah, we'll have to. 1046 00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:50,760 Speaker 2: Please. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying. 1047 00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:56,319 Speaker 3: I have been reading this book called People Collide by 1048 00:56:56,480 --> 00:57:01,640 Speaker 3: Isle McElroy. They're a non binary novelist. 1049 00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,960 Speaker 2: But they the book is like about this. 1050 00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:11,680 Speaker 3: Sis straight couple that some kind of way switches bodies 1051 00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:18,040 Speaker 3: and so it's an interesting like novel. I'm like, I'm 1052 00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:19,720 Speaker 3: like a third of the way through it, but I'm 1053 00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:23,600 Speaker 3: having a good time, so amazing. And then Fortnite of 1054 00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:25,760 Speaker 3: course that counts pay. 1055 00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:29,600 Speaker 2: Lego Fortnite or is that like that's that's a little 1056 00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:30,400 Speaker 2: too juvenile for you. 1057 00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,560 Speaker 3: I know, I guess that's just there's like a Lego 1058 00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,040 Speaker 3: thing going on right now, right right, right. 1059 00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:39,080 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, everybody's trying to get me to Lego Fortnite. 1060 00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:42,000 Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm terrible at Fortnite, but little no. 1061 00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,240 Speaker 3: I mean, I'll give it a chance. But you know, 1062 00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:48,440 Speaker 3: I I started playing Fortnite during the Marvel season, so 1063 00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,240 Speaker 3: I got a little spoiled with all of the character 1064 00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:56,200 Speaker 3: because every season isn't like that or chapter isn't like that. 1065 00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,240 Speaker 3: But I guess I'll end up force to play Lego 1066 00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:01,240 Speaker 3: Fortnite at some point. 1067 00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, eventually we all have to answer the call. 1068 00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:08,400 Speaker 2: Let go for miles? 1069 00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:10,440 Speaker 1: Where can people find you as their work media you've 1070 00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:11,320 Speaker 1: been enjoying. 1071 00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:14,440 Speaker 2: Uh, find me on the at base platforms at Miles 1072 00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,360 Speaker 2: of Gray if you want to hear Jack and I 1073 00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:19,720 Speaker 2: talk basketball, Miles and Jack got mad Boost see that's 1074 00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:21,400 Speaker 2: our NBA podcast. And if you want to hear me 1075 00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:24,080 Speaker 2: talk about my favorite reality trash show, ninety day Fiance, 1076 00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:27,120 Speaker 2: check me out on four to twenty day Fiance with 1077 00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:31,640 Speaker 2: Sofia Alexandra A tweet I like there's a first one. 1078 00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:35,000 Speaker 2: It's from Ana Fitzpatrick at Banana Fits tweeted, my only 1079 00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:38,280 Speaker 2: advice to young aspiring writers is to befriend people with 1080 00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:40,840 Speaker 2: nice apartments and offer to cat sit when they go 1081 00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:43,040 Speaker 2: out of town. That is a move, you know, always 1082 00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:45,040 Speaker 2: try and find the person that you can, you know, 1083 00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,520 Speaker 2: kind of get away from your living situation from and 1084 00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:49,680 Speaker 2: cats it. That's it, whatever, dogs it. I did that 1085 00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:52,360 Speaker 2: a lot. And then also their stuff and use it 1086 00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,640 Speaker 2: as inspiration for your writing, right yeah, download some of 1087 00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:58,440 Speaker 2: their specscripts and then punch them up. I punched up 1088 00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:00,840 Speaker 2: a couple of scripts while you were gone, just over 1089 00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,080 Speaker 2: wrote the original, so you know, this is probably the 1090 00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:05,400 Speaker 2: better way anyway. And then at Noah Garfi Cold this 1091 00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,000 Speaker 2: is a very la tweet, but I said, very impressed 1092 00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,280 Speaker 2: by the not that in shape guy jogging laps around 1093 00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:16,920 Speaker 2: Echo Park and sagging jeans and no shirt. There's so 1094 00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,280 Speaker 2: many people you see exercising in the city where you're 1095 00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,760 Speaker 2: not sure if they're running from something or jogging. So yeah, 1096 00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,640 Speaker 2: sagging gee, I love a sagging jean job, you know, 1097 00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:26,400 Speaker 2: I love to see that. 1098 00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:31,880 Speaker 1: Can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien tweet 1099 00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:36,040 Speaker 1: I've been enjoying Corey at cool map game tweeted first. 1100 00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,600 Speaker 2: Guy to go bird watching. Someone needs to be watching 1101 00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:45,160 Speaker 2: those fucking things. Don't trust it. You can find us 1102 00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:48,040 Speaker 2: on Twitter at daily Zeikeeist. We're at the Daily Zeikeist 1103 00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:48,760 Speaker 2: on Instagram. 1104 00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:50,760 Speaker 1: We have a Facebook fan page and a website daily 1105 00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,160 Speaker 1: zeikeist dot com where we post our episodes and our 1106 00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:53,960 Speaker 1: foot note. 1107 00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:56,160 Speaker 2: Where we link off to the information that. 1108 00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:58,360 Speaker 1: We talked about today's episode, as well as a song 1109 00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,080 Speaker 1: that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what something do 1110 01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:02,200 Speaker 1: we think people might enjoy? 1111 01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:05,480 Speaker 2: Ye, you will enjoy e this track by Matt wild 1112 01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:07,920 Speaker 2: D which that just kind of worked out Matt Wilde 1113 01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:11,000 Speaker 2: with a E on the end. It's called Nostalgia. He's 1114 01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:14,520 Speaker 2: like a British piano keys player new jazz and I 1115 01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:16,840 Speaker 2: just like it's like easy listening. But if you like 1116 01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,360 Speaker 2: hip hop, it feels like, you know, like a boom 1117 01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:21,560 Speaker 2: back beat that would you know, maybe high tech made 1118 01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:23,800 Speaker 2: on the you know, the live album or something most 1119 01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:27,040 Speaker 2: of that, who knows. But it's a really great soothing track. 1120 01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:31,440 Speaker 2: It's called Nostalgia by Matt Wilde. Just just you know, relax, relax, relax. 1121 01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:32,240 Speaker 2: It just put on the back. 1122 01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:35,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well we will link off to that 1123 01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:36,080 Speaker 1: in the footnotes. 1124 01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,080 Speaker 2: Daily Guys is a production of by Heart Radio. For 1125 01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,360 Speaker 2: more podcasts my Heart Radio, visit the iHeart Radio, ap 1126 01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:41,240 Speaker 2: Apple Podcasts 1127 01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:45,840 Speaker 1: Or wherever you listen to podcast this afternoon to tell 1128 01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:47,200 Speaker 1: you what's is trending and we will talk to you 1129 01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:48,480 Speaker 1: all then Bye bye