WEBVTT - QLS Classic: Millie & Keisha Jackson Pt. 2 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:05.320 Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. Happy Black 0:00:05.400 --> 0:00:08.680 History Month. From Quest Love Supreme, we have an incredible 0:00:08.720 --> 0:00:12.920 two part QLs classic episode with the legendary Million Jackson 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:17.880 and her equally legendary daughter, Keisha Jackson. This mother daughter 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:21.840 tandem was wonderful when QLs got them in Atlanta back 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:26.119 in September twenty twenty three, Million in particular, kicked down 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:29.240 many of the work about what you can say on 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:31.320 record and what you can't say on record. 0:00:31.560 --> 0:00:34.760 She said everything and she's not one of the min's words. 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:43.159 All right, here's part two. Enjoy. What is it like 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:47.920 being a teenager in our household? Like? You couldn't be rebellious, 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:48.239 could you? 0:00:48.400 --> 0:00:48.479 She? 0:00:49.320 --> 0:00:50.159 Yes, she was. 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:52.480 I was on the road. 0:00:52.760 --> 0:00:58.560 Oh oh okay, okay, so yes, Rebellion was the middle name. 0:01:00.280 --> 0:01:00.720 The maid. 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:02.600 Oh you had a maid. 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:07.440 We had a housekeeper. She loved me. She she didn't 0:01:07.440 --> 0:01:08.280 snitch on everything. 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:10.840 She told some things because she had to be found 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:15.080 out otherwise. So but she she was my covering, like 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:17.880 she was such a blessing to me because she loved 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:20.000 me like I was hers, you know what I mean. 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:22.000 Her name was Vonnie. 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:26.160 So there were instances and I don't know if she 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:30.040 ever knew this, But here comes report cards would come. 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:34.919 Baby, I had mastered turning an. 0:01:34.920 --> 0:01:50.760 F into then. 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:51.000 They wrote it, so I would I would find a 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:53.520 pen if it was a black or if it was 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:57.040 a blue, I would find a damn pen to match 0:01:57.080 --> 0:01:59.920 the color, and like I would test it on one paper, 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:02.840 and then I would change it. 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:07.440 I would change and we had ease as well. But 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:09.680 ain't no good either. 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:09.799 That. 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:12.320 I was like, well, I can't, so I just the 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:14.760 ones that I could change. I did, so I may 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:16.679 have two or three fs. 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:19.120 But then her sign it. 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:21.160 But depend upon how they wrote it, how quickly they 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:24.360 wrote it, you might be able to She'd be all right, okay, 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:25.280 I'm just okay. 0:02:25.360 --> 0:02:28.000 She wanted you know, you want to you could And I. 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:31.480 Was able to do this because like so in school. 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:33.080 Wait, I mean you should tell the story now, because 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:34.560 the way she's start. 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:39.440 You know what I mean. 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:44.800 So she would be overseas, you know, back then obviously 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:47.400 no cell phones, and so she might be gone for 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:51.160 a month, and we knew when she was coming. 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:52.359 Look at she barling over. 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:56.040 She knew that I'm traumatized. 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:57.959 Listen, Yeah, we knew that. 0:02:58.200 --> 0:02:59.480 You know, there was a certain day of the week 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:01.760 she was gonna call. That's when I had to be 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:04.760 at the house by the phone, be inside. Your mother's 0:03:04.800 --> 0:03:07.280 calling at three o'clock, that kind of a thing. But 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:10.000 I also knew, like there were things going on in school, 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:11.400 like so if there was a dance, if there was 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:13.880 something else going on, I wanted to go. But I 0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:17.000 knew the damn report card was in the mail pile, 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:19.720 and I knew that when she came home, she don't 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:20.280 know none of. 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:23.040 This come on, She's just the envelope there. 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:27.720 Because so the mail would come and the new mail 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:30.399 boom on top, on top. So I knew exactly where 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:33.240 the report card was, so before she came, I would 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:36.160 take the ship and slide it to the bottom. Because 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:38.800 she only dealt with a couple of pieces of mail 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:40.200 at a time when she came home. 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:40.840 I'm sorry if. 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:47.240 Y'all can see her right way and I can't fire 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:50.200 it an incredible story to tell you, but that's how 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:53.320 I used to kind of hustle, Like, Okay, she gets 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:56.200 home on a Monday, the dances on Friday, I don't 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:56.800 know how many. 0:03:56.920 --> 0:03:58.720 So she would deal with a couple of pieces of 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:01.720 mail at a time, and then I'm paying. 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:04.320 Attention to her. Oh she went through that. Let me 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:06.080 move it down a little bit further. Let me move 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:06.440 it down. 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:07.040 Listen. 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:09.760 I'm going to this damn dance. But there was one 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:15.120 time when the damn I didn't. I couldn't go to 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:17.520 the dance because she beat me to the to the 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:21.000 you know, the mailpile, beat me to the to the 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:24.680 to the date. So I had and I recently reminded 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:26.240 her of this, and she was like, I do not 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:30.080 remember this. I right, she went to So I had 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:31.760 a dance on a Friday and asked if I could go. 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:36.120 She said no, flat out. There was a tomboy me. 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:41.119 So there was a window in my room second level 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:46.080 across the hall from her. There was a tree that 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:50.400 had a trunk just so perfect that I could step out. 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:52.800 Never did this before this, but I'm going. I'm going 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:55.640 to this dance. She told me I couldn't go. I 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:59.600 snuck out of the house, had my girlfriend meet me 0:04:59.640 --> 0:05:03.320 at the corn corner. We got there, changing the car, 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:07.000 the whole thing, changing the car the whole like. 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:09.240 Ferrist beauty, like that right. 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:13.560 Changing the car, came back dance over. I'm thinking, Okay, 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:16.000 I made it. Let me out at the corner. The 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:18.400 baby is coming, Let me out at the corner. 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:19.760 I give it. 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:24.000 I stuffed my bed like you were because I went 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:25.680 to camp and I learned all that kind of shipping 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:28.400 camp until they touch you, but until they touch you. 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:30.000 But you know, you, you know, you're looking in the 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:32.599 in the dark, like if she sleep, all the baby sleep. 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:37.680 Yeah. 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:41.120 So I come back in the window. Now you know, 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:43.239 this was a task climb back up the tree. 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:45.280 It was. It was a short you know, get up 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:46.560 the tree, come back in the window. 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:50.560 One thing. If you're climbing and you go into a dance. 0:05:56.400 --> 0:05:57.880 No, it wasn't. It wasn't you know. 0:05:57.920 --> 0:05:59.080 It was just regularly. 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:00.760 Yeah, I remember, tell us what I had on. 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:04.480 But I worked it out. Slide back in the window. 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:07.560 I'm tipping, tipping. Let me hang on my ship in 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:11.840 the closset. When slide the closset door closed, I won. 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:17.040 I pulled back them goddamn covers and she was under 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:17.559 the door. 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:26.320 I'm like, I mean, I'm quiet, I'm like. 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:27.440 Oh, ship, I did it. 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:28.280 I couldn't believe it. 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:35.000 I got and slide it back and she standing there like. 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:38.800 I mean, I mean, so, what did your mom I'm 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:40.080 curious after that what happened? 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:45.599 I was, I screamed, uh huh. The housekeeper Vnnie was 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:49.040 knew about it. She outside the door, like wait, she 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:51.360 waiting for the sounds and shed outside the door. 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:54.960 She already know. I pulled back the covers and she 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:55.440 just said. 0:06:56.600 --> 0:06:59.320 I screamed at the top of my voice, and then 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:01.680 I got my ass. 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:05.400 I mean, you only child, It was just you. 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:09.520 Well by this time, no my brother, but he's eleven. 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:12.680 Years just out of curiosity. Is many does she pick 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:13.240 up something? 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:14.000 Is she a hand? 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:14.800 Is she a switch? 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:17.080 She's not a hand, She's a switch and a belt. 0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:19.920 Yeah, And I have to go get it. 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:23.000 And I had to pick the belt back out to 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:24.280 that tree and get me a switch. 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:27.960 The belt drawer was right next to the wig draw. 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:31.960 So you bet not touch me, you know. 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:34.800 I'd be around the house playing like you know, and 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:38.000 then go up, says and get get a belt. 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:39.880 You know where it is because you got that wig, 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:40.640 so you know what the belt. 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:43.480 I would hide the belt after whipping the next day. 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:45.560 I want to an entire draw. 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:47.440 There was no hiding, and and if I didn't pick 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:49.240 the right one, it was gonna last a little bit. 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:55.640 Long where I had so many belts that it's it's 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:57.640 bad enough when your parents ask you to help them, 0:07:58.040 --> 0:08:00.880 like go outside. I remember once my dad was like, wait, wait, 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:05.480 hold this for me, and then he had get like 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:08.560 a vacuum that wasn't working, so like picked up the 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:11.480 chord and he could like it was a moment when 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:14.400 we just had a three minute like wait wait wait, 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:20.600 how many into see like we're like, I'm like, why 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:24.920 am I aiding in my own abuse? Like what. 0:08:26.240 --> 0:08:30.559 Too long? If I it was just it was hell wow. 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:35.080 So when when did you realize that you two had 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:38.439 a voice and that you wanted to pursue this? 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:42.800 She always called me on stage like when did you 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:43.320 first start? 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:47.200 I mean from it's as long as I can remember. 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:49.480 Honestly, I would come to shows and she would say, 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:51.800 ke should come here. I'm always sitting on the side 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:54.040 most of the time and she would say come here. 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:56.680 But it would be on the most random ship. So 0:08:57.080 --> 0:08:59.600 if loving you is wrong, here you go, ad lib. 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:01.400 I don't. 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:02.760 I don't know nothing about this. 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:05.440 So I would do oohs and od's and those kinds 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:08.120 of things, and she was always like, you know, so 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:12.319 she always encouraged me until I wanted to do it, 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:15.079 like this is gonna be my living because she said, 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:17.400 you're going to college, You're going to be a lawyer. 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:20.920 Because I was, I went to It didn't matter Bridgeport, Connecticut. 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:23.400 They wasn't about shit. So I was just going to 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:25.280 college just to say I went to college. 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:25.880 That's it. 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:29.440 But she was, you're going to go to college and 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:31.200 you are going to be a lawyer, because she was like, 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:34.400 you argue back better than anybody I know. 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:35.640 So that's what it was gonna be. 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:39.160 And so that's how when I when I decided that, 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:42.320 I was singing like national anthems and doing all that 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:44.880 kind of stuff on campus, and she was like, you 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:49.560 are wasting my money because I just that's what I 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:50.160 wanted to do. 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:51.560 When did your mind change? 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:51.839 Milly? 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:56.080 Still she's supposed to be a lawyer. She she still 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:57.320 go back and be a lawyer. 0:09:57.400 --> 0:10:00.120 Still, she's still thinking about the report. 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:03.040 She's still thinking about the report card. 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:10.280 Were you were your high school friends aware of who 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:14.400 your mom was, because also, I mean epigenetics, you look 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:15.000 just like her. 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:20.560 No, they weren't aware because a couple of the report 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:24.880 card episodes and the sneaking out of the house and 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:28.240 in climbing trees and ship she decided, you're going to 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:28.960 boarding school? 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:32.960 Oh wow, okay, so I didn't go to team. 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:33.439 At high school. 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:37.719 I went to elementary and uh junior high school as 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:40.280 it was called. And then when it came time for 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:43.199 me to go to to to high school. 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:44.480 She sent me to boarding school. 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:49.040 And that's why in South Jersey listen. 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:52.000 But it was also because it was also because radio 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:55.640 was was all like everything was played on the same station. 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:58.880 But yeah, that's that probably was my introduction. 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:01.360 To what is now called you what is boarding school? Like? 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:04.840 It was? It was awful. It wasn't like. 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:06.840 Not not overseas in Switzerland. 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:08.479 No, no, it wasn't like Marstown. 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:12.160 Okay, like Men of New Jersey right outside of Marstown, Jersey. 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:16.280 There that was like there was okay, there was sixty 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:20.520 students in the entire school and the school went from 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:22.600 from seven to twelve. 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:25.160 So there was some classes you'd have by yourself. 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:27.880 There's and a lot of eyes on you. 0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:28.640 Yeah. 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:31.199 I hated it though, but so I once again another 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:32.280 confession that she don't know about. 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:33.760 I would great. 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:39.280 I would just mess up and do shit that I knew. 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:40.880 She didn't want me to do so she could take 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:42.360 me out. 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:48.959 Okay, okay, okay, because I felt like she's paying all 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:50.520 of this money for me to go to the school. 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:53.640 Then, you know, the uniform is supposed to be below 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:54.040 the knee. 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:57.120 I would hear my pleating skirt higher up in the 0:11:57.200 --> 0:11:58.040 middle of the thigh. 0:11:58.120 --> 0:11:59.360 And there was always kind of. 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:02.400 Stuff your sister understand that I. 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:04.360 Was doing, but it didn't It didn't make a difference. 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:07.680 So they were called and I was always very good 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:08.320 friends with it. 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:11.080 It was run by a convent, so the sisters. 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:15.240 The sisters were always they love They loved me though, 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:17.240 so when I wanted to be on the cheerleading squad, 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:19.920 she told me, no extracurriculars. 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:22.160 You better get this damn school work done. Da da da. 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:24.480 But the sisters was like, oh, I'm gonna call your mother. 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:29.080 So when when sister Barbara Jean, we call mommy to 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:33.160 say always had two names, Susanne, Elizabeth, Laura Catherine. They 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:37.560 all had to real stack was very real. Then she 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:40.720 would they would call her on my behalf to say, 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:43.679 you know, she's really great. You know, we think that 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:46.920 she would be a great cheerleading captain, you know, And 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:49.520 they got a taste the hut. 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:54.280 She didn't give a damn if it was God damn 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:59.959 money up bring her don't So, yeah, they didn't catch. 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:02.439 They And I feel like that's that's an animated Millie 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:06.520 Jackson cussing out a nun like, oh my god, take 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:07.559 that to adults. 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:12.240 But this even goes further because now your daughter is 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:15.800 performing with you, Yes, so are you? 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:17.200 Is? 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:20.960 First of all this is is she aware? 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:26.840 Knows how old is she always has been? She's thirty three? 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:30.120 Now, wow, black does not crack right here? 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:35.280 Yeah, that's crazy black. 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:36.720 Don may put it, package it up, sell it. 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:41.240 Yeah, okay, say trick Daddy's I'm a thug? Was that 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:44.400 like the introduction, like you know this grandmom's song right 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:49.640 there that he's sampling d or whatever? Like how what 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:50.720 was the entry point? Yeah? 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:55.600 For my daughter, Yes, she's always known, like I've always 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:59.280 she's always been I've always been very clear about who 0:13:59.320 --> 0:14:02.520 your grandmother is and who you know. Just the legacy 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:05.720 has always been very very important to me. So she's 0:14:05.760 --> 0:14:07.559 always she's always known that. 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:10.800 Okay, why didn't you want her to sing? 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:14.240 She was a sweetie pie? She still is a sweet pie. 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:19.720 She's a sweety pie. It's skipted. It's very much like 0:14:19.800 --> 0:14:20.880 my mother. They probably best. 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:22.440 She don't do all the cussing and stuff like that, 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:25.000 but she plays no games. She's very and then just 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:29.160 the whole they're prissier, they're more women like this ship is. 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:33.840 I'm you know, tomboy sneakers, so I'll be closer to 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:34.400 a big girl. 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:37.480 She she wants to wear. She wants to be like that. 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:42.720 I know, so she's. 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:47.320 Wow, why do you want to be a lawyer? Supposed 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:48.280 to being a singer? 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:54.080 I was black and being a lawyer was a good 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:59.080 job to have for a black person. So I wanted 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:04.240 her to be a good one and be able to 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:08.320 give me advice on my career and stuff because she 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:12.840 know what attorneys do and the attorneys that I knew, 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:15.600 I knew more about the law than they did. 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:19.440 Yeah, and she always said that, like, go to school 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:21.840 and be a lawyer so you can take care of 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:23.360 the family, like in terms of. 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:27.880 Legal But between you and me, was there ever a 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:30.320 moment where you were at a show and she was 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:34.880 singing and you went, that's my baby all the time? 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:36.920 Okay? 0:15:37.440 --> 0:15:42.440 Was there a first show where you went okay, no, okay. 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:43.800 She had it on as Mama and daddy. 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:46.800 Oh, daddy was singing, yeah as well. 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:50.320 Okay, what about your parents were they musically did they 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:51.360 sing play at all? 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:55.320 My mother died when I was two, oh man, so 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:59.240 that was just me and my father and his other 0:15:59.360 --> 0:15:59.960 six wives. 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:01.880 Wow. 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:04.640 Before he passed, he died nine times. I mean he 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:08.480 before he passed, he married nine times. The last time 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:08.840 was like. 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:10.120 Because he didn't want to get rid of me a 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:11.200 couple of years before. 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:15.040 He he was one termine that I was going to 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:17.440 stay with him, so he had to do what he 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:21.240 had to do, so have a woman and and some 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:23.680 of most of them on the last couple of years. 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:28.320 But because he was competitive, like you know, so you 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:32.480 Daddy's girl, yes, wow, But they wanted they wanted, like 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:33.240 what's going on? 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:37.480 So it became not only was Daddy's girl. I was 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:41.080 the waitress and you know I served the liquor on 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:44.600 Friday and Saturday because my daddy made Cone liquor. 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:49.480 Yeah. 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:53.880 Yeah, all right. 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:56.920 So, as a fan of your work, there's a question 0:16:57.000 --> 0:16:59.760 I always wanted to ask, And you know, I don't 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:03.920 know Marlena Shaw, I don't know Linda Clifford, the the 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:08.760 women who are strong willed. The women of soul who 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:12.840 are strong willed on their albums. How hard is it 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:16.159 or how hard was it for men not to be 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:22.320 intimidated by you if they're meeting you during your your 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:24.760 your career, and I'm talking about from the seventies, eighties, 0:17:24.840 --> 0:17:30.240 nineties and on, like, how long is it before they're 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:33.600 just like, forgive me Steve Check please, Like. 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:37.760 Oh, well, actually it didn't happen, you know, so you 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:43.520 would turn it off stage. My husband was my bass player. 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:49.080 Oh okay, I was determined that we would not have 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:51.600 an anniversary. 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:53.639 So they were married six months. 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:58.240 Yeah, I'm doing the math in my head. Wow, six months. 0:17:58.359 --> 0:18:01.560 Yeah, we got married. We were together for two years, 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:04.600 but when we got married it was over because, you know, 0:18:05.040 --> 0:18:10.000 he went to I got a phone call from Spring 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:16.240 and they were very upset. And I couldn't figure out 0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:20.000 why they were so upset. And they say, because your 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:24.840 husband came and he gave us a list of things 0:18:24.920 --> 0:18:27.480 he wanted and did not want, and blah blah blah 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:32.080 blah blah, and we're just hoping that you'll stay with us. 0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:37.160 And I said, excuse me, could you get off the phone? 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:42.399 And Roy Rifkins say huh, I says, why are you 0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:46.440 wasting my time with this? She said, well, he came 0:18:46.520 --> 0:18:49.480 to see us, I said, but I didn't come to 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:53.879 see you, and you won't see him again, So why 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:56.520 are you wasting my time? 0:18:57.359 --> 0:18:59.199 And that was the end of him, the end of 0:18:59.200 --> 0:18:59.720 the marriage. 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:02.520 Wow, I seek I gave. 0:19:02.680 --> 0:19:08.520 I gave him his part of the money that I 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:10.360 had put into the bank account. 0:19:10.480 --> 0:19:11.760 Every week I would say it was his. 0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:18.760 This is yours, you know, allow, this is your money 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:19.520 to throw away. 0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:21.920 I don't care what you do with it. God, this 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:22.720 is in the bank. 0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:26.800 And when when we broke up, he had eight thousand 0:19:26.880 --> 0:19:28.720 dollars in the bank and I gave it to. 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:34.800 The real one because I know women now are professional 0:19:35.400 --> 0:19:36.960 sing alimony. 0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:39.600 And I gave him his eight thousand dollars. 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:43.119 Anybody approached you about this movie or has there? Did 0:19:43.160 --> 0:19:47.760 I miss a movie that was made? Because I know. 0:19:47.320 --> 0:19:51.119 I started to write Millie, Okay, that's the title, Just Millie. 0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:52.080 That's all it needs to be. 0:19:52.400 --> 0:19:56.720 And I'm fifteen, what you mean that's. 0:19:56.600 --> 0:20:03.280 All she's got. Wow, you're gonna need some help with that. 0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:04.040 I'm saying. 0:20:04.960 --> 0:20:07.919 I got some help, and I got the person to 0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:10.720 come and we sat down and went through all of 0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:14.119 this like we're doing now. And they came back with 0:20:14.359 --> 0:20:20.399 the whole script two weeks later, and I read about 0:20:20.400 --> 0:20:23.199 half of it before I told them to get the 0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:23.680 fuck out. 0:20:26.200 --> 0:20:26.880 It wasn't good. 0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:28.399 It wasn't bad. 0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:29.359 It just wasn't me. 0:20:29.560 --> 0:20:30.600 They was It wasn't. 0:20:30.640 --> 0:20:34.200 They decided that they was gonna this is more interesting 0:20:34.280 --> 0:20:35.760 and we're gonna change it to this. 0:20:37.880 --> 0:20:40.120