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Speaker 1: along with senior team reporter Matt McMullen. Twenty fourteen, the

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Speaker 1: last time the Chiefs didn't make the playoffs, and hopefully

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Speaker 1: And so and before we go on and talk about

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been incredible. I think that's why the season

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Speaker 3: A lot of AFC South games for him.

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Speaker 3: So this stinks right now. This is a huge bummer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I'll just and you're gonna play against cam

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'll start with USA.

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Speaker 2: So I'm with you on Essa. And he was a

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Speaker 2: What do you have? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: How about Ashton Jelatti. So this one is pretty obvious,

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Speaker 3: he faked the quick throw. It was third down and

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Speaker 3: maybe we're talking about Ashton is one of our starting

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Speaker 1: The next guy's Noel Williams. To me, can we talk

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Speaker 3: I love that Noel is fearless and kind of reminds

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Speaker 3: I like a lot about him. He's going to make

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Speaker 1: And a big piece of twenty twenty six will be

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is one that I'm kind of fired up about.

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Speaker 3: And there's more of a backstory to it, but it's

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Speaker 3: the game, so it was Kevin Knowles and Noel Williams

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Speaker 3: out there, and Knowles made some plays. He made a

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Speaker 3: pass breakup on third down, really nice play where he

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Speaker 3: punched the ball out right at the catch point. I mean,

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Speaker 3: great play. It was a perfect throw by Herbert and

437
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Speaker 3: the ball was right there, and Knowles had sticky coverage

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Speaker 3: and made the play defensively. So he showed me some things.

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Speaker 3: And you know, it goes back to training camp. I

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Speaker 3: asked someone on the staff. I don't know if I

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Speaker 3: should reveal them or not. I don't know if that's allowed.

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Speaker 3: But I asked someone on the staff who's an undrafted

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Speaker 3: free agent that's really impressed you, and they were like,

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Speaker 3: immediately Kevin Knowles. And it's interesting because I don't think

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Speaker 3: Knowles had a lot of buzz early in training camp.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's so many corners. It's kind of difficult

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Speaker 3: to establish yourself unless you're like making interceptions in practice,

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Speaker 3: and that doesn't always tell the full story. But he said,

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Speaker 3: I love his mindset and I love his attitude. I

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Speaker 3: love kind of how he approaches this thing because in

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Speaker 3: the era of like nil and transfer rules in college,

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Speaker 3: the reality is a lot of players come in with

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Speaker 3: like kind of like a certain entitlement, and Knowles didn't

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Speaker 3: have any of that. He just showed up like excited,

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Speaker 3: ready to work, like ready to be coached. And I

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Speaker 3: kind of wrote down his name and said, all right,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to watch this guy. And it's so cool

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Speaker 3: to see in a potentially a playoff game against the

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Speaker 3: Chargers late in the year, this guy is making pass

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Speaker 3: breakups and big plays on special teams. So Kevin Knowles

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Speaker 3: is a guy that I'm kind of excited about. And

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Speaker 3: over the final three weeks, let's see what he can do.

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Speaker 3: And he's a player for sure, especially on special teams,

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Speaker 3: maybe defense as well. Keep an eye on him in

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Speaker 3: the offseason.

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Speaker 1: And this is where the Titan game is. And I'm

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Speaker 1: glad you brought Knowles up. This is where the Titan

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Speaker 1: game is a real test for him.

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Speaker 2: And here's why.

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Speaker 1: Chamari DK, their rookie out of Florida who started at Wisconsin,

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Speaker 1: has two punt returns for touchdowns. He's shown some electric play,

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Speaker 1: especially on special teams. In fact, one of the things

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Speaker 1: where the Titans grade well is they have four non

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Speaker 1: offensive scores, which is third in the league. But DK's

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Speaker 1: for real, Yeah, and so Kevin's going to get a

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Speaker 1: shot at what he got against this guy. So it's

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Speaker 1: a real world thing. We'll close with this guy, and

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Speaker 1: then we're gonna ge to Aria a second. We didn't

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Speaker 1: go around the world, did we? No?

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Speaker 3: I have two for you. Oh right, we were locked in.

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Speaker 1: Joshua Williams. We'll close with around the World.

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Speaker 3: We've held you this long.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you've been waiting because you always just jump off

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Speaker 1: if you don't get mentioned around the world and it's

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Speaker 1: Jalen Royals. Like we were so excited about him at

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Speaker 1: camp and looking at him in the OTAs. In fact,

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Speaker 1: all these guys we were watching in OTAs and we

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Speaker 1: were excited.

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Speaker 3: About yep, all of them.

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Speaker 1: Okay, the Royal's only played thirty five snaps. He's played

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Speaker 1: four games, zero target, zero catches, and what does he

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Speaker 1: doing special teams? He's going to get a shot here

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Speaker 1: over the next three weeks. And going back to Matt's

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Speaker 1: point about five paragraphs ago or six, is the fact

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Speaker 1: that this is a real world chance for Jalen to

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Speaker 1: see what he can do. Remember the thirty yard cookoff

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Speaker 1: return against Baltimore, and we're thinking, all right, this is

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Speaker 1: what we've seen. Now where we see it again. So, uh,

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Speaker 1: that's with Jalen Royals. Now he's undaunted. You already mentioned

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Speaker 1: about Ari having the same mindset, but our spy now

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Speaker 1: turns his you know, for spies change they do all

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Speaker 1: the time. And now the mission for Ari is twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty six. Yes, we're moving you, buddy, We're moving you,

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Speaker 1: so don't blow your cover.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Caught up with Ari earlier this week talking about stuff

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Speaker 3: going on in the NFL, but also talking about our

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Speaker 3: current situation.

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Speaker 4: Take a listen, Hello to everyone, and welcome to Out

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Speaker 4: West with Ari Wolf for Week sixteen, as.

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Speaker 5: Always, joined by my friend Matt McMullen and Matt.

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Speaker 4: Look, we could dive right into the AFC West like

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Speaker 4: we normally do, but I think we can all acknowledge

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Speaker 4: that this week is different than any week you've experienced

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Speaker 4: during your tenure with the Chiefs.

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Speaker 5: So I'm just curious, how are you doing?

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Speaker 4: And I know that we're taught in journalism it's always

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Speaker 4: about the subject, right, It's about the team, it's about

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Speaker 4: the organization, but we're human beings too. I was just

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Speaker 4: curious how it's been the last couple of days as

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Speaker 4: you kind of come to terms with the fact that

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Speaker 4: there won't be another Super Bowl run this year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a bummer. I think that's the perfect way

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Speaker 3: to put it. It's been strange kind of coming to

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Speaker 3: terms with it, because, you know, especially thinking about when

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Speaker 3: this team was five and three around Halloween and playing

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Speaker 3: really good football. I truly had full confidence we were

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Speaker 3: going to go on a run. I really believed it,

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Speaker 3: and unfortunately the reality is sometimes it's just not your year,

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Speaker 3: and a lot of things are stacked up against us

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Speaker 3: this year, whether that be circumstances, injuries, crazy travel schedules,

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Speaker 3: a lot of close games. I mean, losing five games

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Speaker 3: by a field goal. It's nuts, but these things happen,

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Speaker 3: and the NFL is designed for things like this to happen.

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Speaker 3: And I've kind of flipped my brain at this point

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Speaker 3: to the opportunity that's in front of us. And that's

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Speaker 3: something that Mitch and I have been talking about, where, yes,

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Speaker 3: this was not fun. This year, especially the last month

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Speaker 3: and a half has been very difficult and not what

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Speaker 3: I at all expected. And you couple that with the

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Speaker 3: Mahomes injury. Just devastated for him, I mean, the ultimate warrior,

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Speaker 3: trying to do everything he can to help us win,

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Speaker 3: even if there's like a slim chance of it mattering

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Speaker 3: in the end, and he does everything he can, and

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Speaker 3: for him to get hurt just a huge bummer. But

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Speaker 3: he's going to power through his rehab. He's going to

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Speaker 3: attack his rehab. I am certain he is not feeling

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Speaker 3: sorry for himself or sorry for the Chiefs, and we

549
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Speaker 3: shouldn't either. I think, how do we get back to

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Speaker 3: the mountaintop. It's about attacking this thing right now and

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Speaker 3: making this team the best team it can be for

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Speaker 3: next season right now. And that's about you know, looking

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Speaker 3: at this Titans game, I get it doesn't matter in

554
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Speaker 3: the standings really, but let's evaluate some young players. Let's

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Speaker 3: see what some players on this team can do that

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Speaker 3: maybe can help us moving forward. That's where my whole

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Speaker 3: head is at right now, is the opportunity in front

558
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Speaker 3: of us. And not quite how I expected to spend

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Speaker 3: the second half of December and January, but in a way,

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Speaker 3: I'm excited about the future and what this team can

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Speaker 3: achieve moving forward because of the opportunity that we have now.

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Speaker 3: So I'm bummed out. I mean, this is not at

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Speaker 3: all what I thought the season would be, but it's

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Speaker 3: not about this year anymore, in my opinion, it's about

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Speaker 3: how can we get back to where we were and

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Speaker 3: that process I think begins right now.

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Speaker 4: Well that's a remarkably mature perspective, and I think it's

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Speaker 4: probably really good for Chiefs Kingdom to hear that from you,

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Speaker 4: because I think it's okay to grieve a little bit.

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Speaker 5: I think it's okay to be disappointed.

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Speaker 4: I think it's okay to be sad, you know, because

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Speaker 4: then you could step back and look at the bigger picture.

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Speaker 4: Not only this incredible run of success and one of

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Speaker 4: the true dynasties the NFL's ever had, but this could

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Speaker 4: be an inflection point where your mid dynasty and all

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Speaker 4: of a sudden you could be picking around ten or

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Speaker 4: eleven or twelve and a real opportunity to build through

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Speaker 4: the draft and get a marquee player in the first round. So,

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Speaker 4: you know, I think with anything, right, it's perspective. I

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Speaker 4: mentioned this Charleswindle attitudes thing. You know, the Chiefs can

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Speaker 4: look at this is well, it's ten percent of what's

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Speaker 4: happened to them. Well, now it's ninety percent of how

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Speaker 4: you choose to react to it and the perspective that

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Speaker 4: you have. So I think your perspective is great, But

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Speaker 4: I really believe there is opportunity here. It is so

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Speaker 4: rare for an elite team to be able to have

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Speaker 4: a higher draft pick through multiple rounds. So I really

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Speaker 4: do think, you know, with Brett Viach and their outstanding

589
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Speaker 4: scouting department, look at this as sort of a one

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Speaker 4: year blip and a chance to reload and recalibrate moving forward.

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Speaker 4: All Right, I wanted to start the show just kind

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Speaker 4: of acknowledging where we are. But now let's get to

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Speaker 4: what this has been about through the season, and that's

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Speaker 4: the AFC West and the Denver Broncos put on arguably

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Speaker 4: their best performance of the season against a very good

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Speaker 4: Green Bay Packers team. They win the game thirty four

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Speaker 4: to twenty six. You could make a case that was

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Speaker 4: bo Nicks's best game. He outplays Jordan Love, and I

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Speaker 4: think all season long we've been wondering are the Broncos

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Speaker 4: for real? Well, this game, more than any game, to me,

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Speaker 4: acknowledges that they are actually a Super Bowl contender. And

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Speaker 4: I know that you guys had a lot going on.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure Sunday was a tough day, but I'm sure

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Speaker 4: you've had a chance to sort of digest what happened

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Speaker 4: between the Packers and the Broncos and what'd you come

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Speaker 4: away thinking about the Broncos after Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was impressed. I agree that I think that

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Speaker 3: was probably their best win of the year to this point,

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Speaker 3: just because because they have this narrative around them where

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Speaker 3: they're winning all these close, one score games. And that's true.

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Speaker 3: I wrote it down here. They've won six straight games

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Speaker 3: by a single score and they're ten and two in

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Speaker 3: one score games this year. Contrasts that with us this year.

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Speaker 3: I think we're one and seven in one score games.

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Speaker 3: We haven't lost by more than ten all season long.

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Speaker 3: But you know, the ball bounces a certain way, and

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Speaker 3: it's been that way for Denver this year, where they're

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Speaker 3: winning these games like we did last year, and they

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Speaker 3: deserve credit for that. But also I think this Packers

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Speaker 3: game wasn't a game that a few things happened and

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Speaker 3: it just worked out for him. I mean, they were

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Speaker 3: down twenty three to fourteen in the second half to

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Speaker 3: a Packers team that's really good, really competitive and fighting

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Speaker 3: for a playoff spot, And to the Broncos credit, they

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Speaker 3: found a way to take control of that game. They

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Speaker 3: didn't let the Packers add to their lead, and they

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Speaker 3: actually outscored the Packers the rest of the way. So

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Speaker 3: I think the Broncos deserve credit for that. They're still

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Speaker 3: living kind of dangerously, you know, and yup, you never

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Speaker 3: know in the postseason. Can you continue that that. She's

631
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Speaker 3: made a living doing that for a long time. But

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Speaker 3: I was impressed with Knicks throwing for over three hundred yards,

633
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Speaker 3: four touchdowns and pressed with the Broncos overall, and they

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Speaker 3: will be a tough out. I mean, at this point,

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Speaker 3: I think they're going to be the one seed. And

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Speaker 3: I didn't think i'd be saying that when the season began,

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Speaker 3: But heck of a season for them, and let's see

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Speaker 3: what they do with it.

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Speaker 5: It Really the game changed on one play.

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Speaker 4: To me, it was the Patrick stan the second interception,

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Speaker 4: because the Packers are up twenty three to fourteen with

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Speaker 4: the ball taking a deep shot down the field. You know,

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Speaker 4: all of a sudden, Denver gets the ball back and

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Speaker 4: from there the game completely flipped. We'll always talk about

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Speaker 4: in the NFL one play can change a game. Well,

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Speaker 4: Sir Tan, they're the reigning NFL Defensive Player of the Year.

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Speaker 4: Made the play the Broncos had to have. If you're

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Speaker 4: an elite team, your best players have to make the

649
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Speaker 4: most important plays in the biggest games, and Sir Tan delivers.

650
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Speaker 4: And boy, I mean, the Broncos have now won eleven straight.

651
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Speaker 4: They are no longer in a tie for the number one.

652
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Speaker 4: They are the number one seed. I give a lot

653
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Speaker 4: of credit to Sean Payton because I started this podcast

654
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Speaker 4: in week three with you and one of the first

655
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Speaker 4: things I said, is Sean Payton put his team under

656
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 4: unnecessary pressure, calling them an elite team, a super Bowl contender.

657
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 4: It was literally like my final thought the first week

658
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Speaker 4: was what is Sean Payton doing well? Sean, congratulations, You've

659
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 4: got yourself a great team and they are a true

660
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Speaker 4: super Bowl contender. But because you will have already talked

661
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Speaker 4: about the Chiefs in the Chargers game, let's just do

662
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Speaker 4: a little nugget here on the Raiders. The Raiders get

663
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 4: shut out thirty one nothing. I'm becoming increasingly clear in

664
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Speaker 4: my mind that Pete Carroll is going to be won

665
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Speaker 4: and done. Their offense was a knemick. They had seventy

666
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Speaker 4: five yards of offense. Remember they beat New England Week

667
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Speaker 4: one in New England. It's kind of hard to believe

668
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Speaker 4: how bad the Raiders have gotten. He's fired multiple coordinators.

669
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Speaker 4: Do you think Pete Carroll will be the coach of

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Speaker 4: the Raiders next season.

671
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Speaker 3: It's a good question. If he is, it's because he

672
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Speaker 3: has the track record of being a Super Bowl winning

673
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Speaker 3: coach and one of the most accomplished coaches of the

674
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Speaker 3: twenty first century. But this season has been tough for them.

675
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 3: I think about our situation and losing all these close

676
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Speaker 3: games and how gut riching that's been. I mean, the

677
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 3: Raiders have just been completely like not even in a

678
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 3: lot of games this year, being shut out multiple times

679
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 3: in the NFL that doesn't happen, and that was a

680
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Speaker 3: frustration when for the Eagles, like they just took out

681
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Speaker 3: three weeks of frustration out on the Raiders. And yeah,

682
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Speaker 3: I mean the thing is the Raiders they have some talent,

683
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 3: you know, with gent and obviously Bowers, but they got

684
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 3: to get the quarterback situation figured out. And I think

685
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Speaker 3: they were under the impression Gina would be kind of

686
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 3: like a bridge for them, and I know Geno has

687
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 3: been hurt, but it just didn't work. Pickett is not

688
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 3: the guy. Like, they got to figure out their quarterback

689
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Speaker 3: situation and we'll see what they do in the draft

690
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Speaker 3: this year. But just a nightmare season for them all around.

691
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Speaker 3: Where you never want to be not competitive, you know,

692
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Speaker 3: and that's where they are is they're not competitive right now.

693
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Speaker 3: And what's going to be interesting is is Week eighteen,

694
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Speaker 3: We're going to go to Vegas and see those guys

695
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Speaker 3: for the last game of the year. But maybe Vegas

696
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 3: will be playing for more than we expect because a

697
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 3: lot of coaches likely trying to keep their jobs.

698
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's also interesting look in the NFL, every

699
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 4: coach is going to tell you you play to win

700
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Speaker 4: the games, right, but draft position is significant.

701
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Speaker 5: I mean, I remember years ago during Doug Peterson's.

702
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Speaker 4: Final year, they had a meaningless game in the final

703
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 4: week of the regular season and they essentially tanked it

704
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,959
Speaker 4: and took a lot of criticism, but their draft position

705
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Speaker 4: improved and they ended up getting Jalen Carter at it.

706
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Speaker 4: So you know, it is something that's interesting to watch,

707
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Speaker 4: whereas the Raiders have looked like they've been non competitive.

708
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Speaker 4: All the non playoff teams. You learn a lot about

709
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Speaker 4: your team during the most tough times. And one thing

710
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Speaker 4: I can promise you about an any Reid coach team

711
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Speaker 4: is they're going to play to win the game.

712
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Speaker 5: I don't care whether it's preseason, whatever it is.

713
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Speaker 4: So but it is interesting to look at draft position,

714
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Speaker 4: right because that's an emeliate where your mind turns when

715
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Speaker 4: you don't make the playoffs, says, all right, what's the

716
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 4: next chance to improve our football team?

717
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Speaker 5: And the draft is the next thing. So I want

718
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Speaker 5: to move to something that hasn't happened.

719
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Speaker 4: I think for us all season, where I predict what

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Speaker 4: I think is going to be the best game of

721
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Speaker 4: the week, and then it actually is the best game

722
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Speaker 4: of the week. In this case, it was the Bills

723
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Speaker 4: in the Patriots. We thought it had a chance to

724
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Speaker 4: be great. The Patriots were up twenty one to nothing.

725
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Speaker 4: I thought we were really seeing the changing of the

726
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Speaker 4: of the guard in the AFCAS.

727
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Speaker 5: I thought that this is it. They're going to blow

728
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Speaker 5: out the Bills. The Bills are going to wonder what

729
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Speaker 5: they're all about, the Patriots of the New Kings and

730
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Speaker 5: the AFC East. But wow, Josh Allen and the Bills

731
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Speaker 5: come roaring back.

732
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Speaker 4: I mean, Allen's quarterback numbers one hundred and twenty three,

733
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Speaker 4: quarterback rating, three touchdowns may look pretty pedestrian, no touchdown passes,

734
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Speaker 4: an interception of quarterback rating of just under sixty three.

735
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Speaker 4: New England led twenty four from their Buffalo outscores from

736
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Speaker 4: twenty eight to seven. This seemed like a huge statement win,

737
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Speaker 4: and to me it loft. It pushes the Bills now

738
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Speaker 4: to me as a true Super Bowl contender. For a

739
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Speaker 4: while there, I think, you know, I wasn't sold on them,

740
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Speaker 4: but I think that they're starting to find their best

741
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Speaker 4: football at this time of year.

742
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Speaker 5: What were your takeaways from the Bills and the Patriots?

743
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Speaker 3: Yeah, what an inflection point that game was for the

744
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Speaker 3: AFC East and maybe not even this season alone, like

745
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Speaker 3: for the trajectory of these two franchises and who's going

746
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 3: to own this division moving forward? Because when it's twenty

747
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 3: one to nothing and Gillette is rocking, it's like, are

748
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 3: we seeing the changing of the guard here in the

749
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Speaker 3: AFC East? Where the Bills obviously are going to continue

750
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Speaker 3: to be competitive, but are the Patriots like making a

751
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 3: statement here, like not only are they going to win,

752
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 3: they're going to win dominantly. And then the Bills just

753
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 3: rattle off five straight touchdown drives and take the lead.

754
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 3: I mean, the Bills no surprise here, but they remind

755
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 3: me so much of the Chiefs over the years, where

756
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 3: you can have down but they're never out of it,

757
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 3: and in the blink of an eye you can be

758
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 3: like what happened? Like we were winning by three touchdowns

759
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 3: and now all of a sudden, the Bills are winning.

760
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 3: Incredible game for them, super important for Buffalo. I think

761
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 3: more important for Buffalo than it was for New England personally,

762
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Speaker 3: because New England to me, is still a head of

763
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 3: schedule and they're out there and they're playing really good football.

764
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 3: They're still a great shot at winning that division. But

765
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Speaker 3: for Buffalo this was critical. You cannot get swept by

766
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,760
Speaker 3: New England in a season where New England is controlling

767
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 3: the division all year long and and maybe Buffalo's best

768
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 3: shot at getting to the super Bowl in a long

769
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Speaker 3: time with no Burrow in the playoffs, no Mahomes in

770
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Speaker 3: the playoffs. We'll see if Lamar Jackson even makes it

771
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,800
Speaker 3: in the playoffs, and you don't win your own division, like,

772
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 3: this is your chance, this is your opportunity. And for

773
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Speaker 3: them to win that game the way that they did

774
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Speaker 3: and they have a real shot at winning the AFC

775
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 3: East now, which is crazy. They could even somehow get

776
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 3: to the one seed, I think if things went hey

777
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 3: wire for Denver. So huge win for Buffalo and curious

778
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 3: to see how they follow that up because New England's

779
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 3: playing Baltimore in Baltimore next week and how did they

780
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Speaker 3: respond to losing that a game like that to Buffalo.

781
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 3: I don't know, But the Bills could win that division,

782
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 3: which if I said that three weeks ago, I think

783
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 3: people would say I was crazy.

784
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 4: Well, all right, so I want to fall off of that.

785
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 4: So remaining for the Patriots or against the Ravens on

786
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 4: Sunday night at the Jets, and then home versus the Dolphins,

787
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 4: a Dolphins team that looked very unhappy playing in cold

788
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 4: weather in Pittsburgh on Monday night. By the way, for

789
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 4: all of you people you look at warm weather teams

790
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 4: that are out of the playoffs going to really cold

791
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 4: spots the last couple of weeks, I could promise you

792
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 4: watched their sideline in the second half.

793
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 5: I've been watching this my whole NFL fan.

794
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 4: It always shows itself a non playoff team playing in

795
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 4: the snow and the cold looks just miserable. So I

796
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 4: sort of think that the Ravens game is the most

797
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,479
Speaker 4: important game for the Patriots, not just because it's up next,

798
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 4: but if they were to somehow lose that game. I

799
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 4: think the Bills win at Cleveland, then they've got Philly

800
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 4: at home, and then the Jets at home. Very good

801
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 4: chance the Bills win out. So the Patriots right now

802
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,399
Speaker 4: are six and three conference record, Buffalo seven and three,

803
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 4: so they could end up at a tie and it's

804
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 4: gonna be very interesting to see how this plays out.

805
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 4: I think it would be for New England. It will

806
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 4: not feel good to not win the division given the

807
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 4: size lead that they had, but it's definitely a super

808
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 4: fun race. AFC West Week sixteen games. You mentioned the

809
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 4: Chiefs and the Titans. I think it's a great opportunity

810
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 4: to look at a bunch of players. The one area

811
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 4: where I wish that there was like a young quarterback

812
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 4: that you could just use to see how good he is,

813
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 4: because one thing I've noticed in Philadelphia is they often

814
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 4: get good value for their backup quarterbacks, you know, and

815
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,439
Speaker 4: they develop them, you know. The theory with the Chiefs

816
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 4: has always been to have a veteran backup, and I

817
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 4: think Minshew could help them win the next three games.

818
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 4: But it is the one time of year where if

819
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 4: you have a young quarterback on the roster, it is

820
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 4: fun to take a look at them. We've got the

821
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 4: Chargers in the Cowboys. The Cowboys win for being like

822
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 4: the hottest team in the league, to suddenly their defense

823
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 4: looked terrible. They did not look good against the Vikings.

824
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 4: I'm suddenly a little bit more bullish on the Chargers

825
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 4: that I've been I'll want your take on the Chargers

826
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 4: and the Cowboys.

827
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think maybe this is where the game is

828
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 3: so recent, maybe my emotions are caught up in it

829
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 3: a little bit. I would love for the Cowboys to

830
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 3: win this game. That's how I feel. And I think

831
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 3: the Cowboys generally weird game against the Vikings, but they're

832
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 3: still talented. I think it's a great matchup between the

833
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 3: Charger defense and in that Cowboy offense. Question is can

834
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 3: the Cowboy defense kind of rebound a little bit from

835
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Speaker 3: where they were previously, because I think when they got

836
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 3: Quinn Williams, when they got some players back from injury,

837
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 3: we saw that they were playing a lot better football

838
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 3: last week, not so much playing a Charger offense that

839
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,760
Speaker 3: remains decimated upfront. I mean, the Chargers scored sixteen points

840
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 3: against US, It's not like they lit up a scoreboard, right.

841
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 3: So we'll see if the Cowboy defense can bounce back

842
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 3: a little bit. But I think I like the Cowboys

843
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 3: in this game. Chargers need to keep winning to keep

844
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 3: in the playoff hunt, but I think I like the

845
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 3: Cowboys in the bounce back game at home. But we'll see.

846
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 4: One thing I want to mention about George Pickens because

847
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 4: a couple of weeks ago I was talking about he

848
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 4: really is one of the top receivers when he's fully engaged.

849
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 4: But he's not fully engaged, I'm very curious how much

850
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 4: money he's going to get and what level of commitment

851
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 4: he's going to get as a free agent, because when

852
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 4: he's not engaged, his body language and his effort is suspected.

853
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 3: Best.

854
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 4: They put a little montage together of recent plays in

855
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 4: games where you can just tell he's not going one

856
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 4: hundred percent. So if you're gonna pay a guy elite

857
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 4: wide receiver one money, like top Sholf elite money, you

858
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 4: certainly expect that guy to go all out on every play.

859
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 4: So I feel like the Cowboys offense is amazing when

860
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 4: George Pickens gets touched his early and he's into the game.

861
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 5: But boy, there is a range of play from Pickens,

862
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 5: which makes me wonder who's going to give him a

863
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 5: huge long term contract because his effort is not consistent.

864
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 5: I'm curious what you think about George Pickens.

865
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 3: Well, I think when he is locked in and when

866
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,720
Speaker 3: he's playing well, he's among the best receivers in football.

867
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 3: We saw what he did against US a couple weeks

868
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 3: ago on Thanksgiving that third down conversion, the quick slant

869
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,919
Speaker 3: that he turned into like a forty yard game. He's

870
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 3: a beast. I mean, he's one of the most talented

871
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,959
Speaker 3: players in football. But as we've seen over the years,

872
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 3: you also need to be fully engaged, right And I

873
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 3: don't watch enough Cowboys football or enough of George Pickens

874
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 3: to have a fully developed opinion on this I think,

875
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 3: But I think he has the potential to be one

876
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 3: of the best players in football. Just a matter of

877
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 3: doing that consistently and developing that consistency is what great

878
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 3: players do. So yeah, it'll be interesting. I think he's

879
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 3: gonna get a bunch of money in the offseason, and

880
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 3: I think I think the Cowboys bags.

881
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 4: But you know, look, he kind of wore out, wore

882
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 4: out as welcome in Pittsburgh. So I'm just curious, when

883
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 4: this Cowboys season is over, will they look back and

884
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 4: only see the production and Jerry Jones is going to

885
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 4: open up the bank? Are they going to be like wow,

886
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 4: actually being with him day after day. Maybe you know,

887
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 4: his value on the field is not amplified by what

888
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 4: he is like off the field. So I'm just curious

889
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 4: he's like one of those enigmas. I mean, he's not

890
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 4: to level, but like he's a guy who, like at

891
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 4: his best, can be both a great teammate and a

892
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 4: great player. But I just wish that he'd grow up

893
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 4: a little bit, because being a true elite player in

894
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 4: the league requires consistency. Next up, but I think it's

895
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 4: one of the most interesting games of the week is

896
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 4: the Jaguars warm weather team going to Denver. They're getting lucky.

897
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 4: The forecast in Denver is a high of forty nine,

898
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:49,399
Speaker 4: a low of thirty three, no precipitation. The Jaguars now

899
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 4: have to be given a level of respect that I've

900
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 4: been reluctant to give them, right Trevor Lawrence coming off

901
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 4: of one of his best games. Clearly, the Broncos have

902
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 4: been maintaining a pretty high level of energy route this

903
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 4: eleven game winning Street. But you know, you just beat

904
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 4: the Packers and all of a sudden you have the Jaguars.

905
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 4: It's a little less sexy, but it is a huge

906
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 4: game for both teams. Can Trevor Lawrence replicate his recent

907
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 4: success or will the Denver defense be too much for Lawrence?

908
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 3: You know what I find myself thinking about this game

909
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 3: because you know, we're talking about the opportunity we're looking

910
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,879
Speaker 3: forward to. That is all true, but also this week

911
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 3: I am thinking a little bit about this season and

912
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 3: how things could have gone differently. I'm thinking about how

913
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 3: we had the lead against both of these teams in

914
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 3: the fourth quarter in their stadiums and unfortunately lost both

915
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 3: of those games. But here there are playing each other

916
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 3: and jockeying for playoff position, two teams that are going

917
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 3: to win their divisions. I think Jacksonville is interesting because,

918
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 3: like you said, they're playing really good football right now,

919
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 3: and I think they're winning in spite of Trevor Lawrence

920
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 3: to begin the year, and lately it seems like they've

921
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 3: been winning because of Trevor Lawrence. It's a really good

922
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 3: Broncos defense, though, and I think that'll be a test

923
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 3: for him. I think this is a low scoring game

924
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 3: and the Broncos will probably win on some crazy play

925
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 3: toward the end. Like I think like Knicks will get

926
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 3: picked off by one of the Jags DB's and they'll

927
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 3: fumble it or something, and then the Broncos will pick

928
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 3: it up and score a touchdown or something like that.

929
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 3: I think this will be a one score win for

930
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 3: Denver because that's what they've done all year long. And

931
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 3: I think it's tough for Jacksonville going on the road

932
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 3: playing a very good Broncos defense. Tough task for them.

933
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 3: I think the Broncos win it. But we'll see how

934
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 3: Denver responds to having a big win over Green Bay

935
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 3: and being in the driver's seat now for this one seed.

936
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 3: I mean, it is theirs to lose. How do they

937
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 3: respond to it is? We'll find out, all right.

938
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 4: The last AFC WES team playing, it's the Raiders against

939
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 4: the Texans is hard. I'm not going to try to

940
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 4: do any kind of way to think of how the

941
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 4: Raiders can win. It's more like, can the Raiders have

942
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 4: one hundred yards of offense? This Texans team has been

943
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 4: peaking at the right time. They're going to be a

944
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 4: very dangerous playoff team with their defense. You don't even

945
00:43:59,640 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 4: need to come.

946
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 5: I'm in on that game.

947
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 4: I think we all know what's going to happen there.

948
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 4: The Texans are going to win. So there are two

949
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 4: games coming up this week that I don't think that

950
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 4: I would have predicted would be such interesting games. First,

951
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 4: the ten and four forty nine ers going to play

952
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,479
Speaker 4: the Colts at eight and six.

953
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 5: Now, the Niners.

954
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 4: To me, I'm still I haven't bought in. I mean,

955
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 4: they could end up being the one seed. It's that crazy, right,

956
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 4: you know, this is a critical game the Colts last week.

957
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 4: They played well enough to win. I love the game plan.

958
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 4: And look, I'm older than you, the Philip Rivers thing. Like,

959
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 4: I wasn't a Philip Rivers guy. I've never been a

960
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 4: Chargers fan, but I couldn't take my eyes off the game, Like,

961
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 4: I just wanted to see what.

962
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 5: It looked like.

963
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 4: And look, the ball didn't get there as fast. The

964
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 4: game plan was tailor made so that he wasn't really exposed.

965
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 4: But man, their offensive line did an amazing job. He

966
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 4: got the ball out on time. Look, I think he

967
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 4: only threw for like one hundred and twenty yards, but

968
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 4: he played well enough for them to win. It's just

969
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 4: the game that when I thought on the schedule this

970
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 4: late in the year on Monday night, I'm like, who's

971
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:04,240
Speaker 4: making the schedule?

972
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 5: Why are we watching the forty nine ers in the Colts.

973
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 5: It's a pretty.

974
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 4: Compelling game, right, I Mean, it's a kind of game

975
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 4: that I'm definitely gonna watch.

976
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 5: You know, what do you think about this matchup between.

977
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 4: You know, a team in the Colts that we thought

978
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 4: were locks to make the playoffs halfway through a Niner

979
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 4: team that was so decimated by injury.

980
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 5: We assume they.

981
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 4: Would make it and they're in the running for the

982
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,240
Speaker 4: top seed. It kind of makes for a fun Monday

983
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 4: night game.

984
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 3: A lot to talk about here. The Rivers thing is nuts.

985
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 3: The fact that he could go out there. I don't

986
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 3: care if the scheme was designed to kind of protect

987
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 3: him a little bit. He still went out there after

988
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 3: not playing four years as a forty four year old,

989
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 3: Is that right? Yeah, and against one of the best

990
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 3: defenses in football and did a pretty good job gave

991
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 3: his team a chance to win. I mean, it's incredible,

992
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 3: and it says so much about him as like a

993
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 3: competitor and the shape that he kept himself in even

994
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 3: just to go out there and to mentally process. Because

995
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 3: defenses look a lot different now than they did back

996
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty. It's not as simple as you just

997
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 3: show up and you know, draw some lines in the dirt.

998
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 3: I mean, this is really hard, complicated stuff. And for

999
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 3: him to go in there and to not be a

1000
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 3: total disaster, I think is impressive, and he was beyond that.

1001
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 3: He gave them a chance to win, so good for him.

1002
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 3: I think it's cool. I think it's cool that he

1003
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 3: did that. I always respected Philip Rivers, like I didn't

1004
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 3: like playing against him. I didn't like losing to him.

1005
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 3: But it's kind of like a Josh Allen thing where

1006
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 3: it's like, I respect that guy a lot, even though

1007
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 3: he's really good and he might be beating my team.

1008
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 3: A big game for them though, against the forty nine Ers,

1009
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 3: I mean, they have to win to try to stay

1010
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 3: in this playoff hunt because you know, Houston playing the Raiders.

1011
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 3: It's just really difficult right now for Endy, and you know,

1012
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 3: I feel for them considering how their season began and

1013
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 3: where it's likely going to end at this point. But

1014
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 3: Rivers makes it compelling. And then on the flip side,

1015
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 3: the forty nine Ers, I don't know how they've done this.

1016
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 3: They've lost just about every household name they have on

1017
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 3: their team for either the whole season or of time,

1018
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 3: and they've managed to stay afloat despite playing and what

1019
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 3: I think is the toughest division in football this year.

1020
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 3: I don't know how they've done it, but they've figured

1021
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 3: it out and they're right there. But it's pretty nuts

1022
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,280
Speaker 3: looking at the playoff picture, because I mean San Francisco

1023
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 3: is ten and four and still kind of fighting for

1024
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 3: a playoff spot. I mean they're third place in their

1025
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 3: own division at ten and four. It's nuts.

1026
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 4: But you know, knowing that the Rams and Seahawks are

1027
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 4: playing right on Thursday night, so one of them is

1028
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 4: going to get a loss, right, So yeah, it's Devonte

1029
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 4: Adams going to play. Is his hamstring injuries more of

1030
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 4: a long term thing? I mean, there is a scenario

1031
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 4: given the forty nine ers schedule, where they could win

1032
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 4: out and they actually be the top seed. So yeah,

1033
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 4: it's just it's just wild. The other game I want

1034
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 4: to touch on, we mentioned it briefly. You know, the

1035
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 4: Patriots going to the Ravens would not have been a

1036
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 4: game that I would have circled at the beginning of

1037
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 4: the year, and I just wonder how the Patriots are

1038
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 4: going to react to the adversity of having blown that

1039
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 4: twenty one point lead and then going to a Baltimore

1040
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 4: team that is dead. That's but right, because the Steelers

1041
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 4: suddenly look revived, right, and the Steelers won two in

1042
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 4: a row. The way they beat Miami on Monday night

1043
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 4: was really impressive. Aaron Rodgers is playing his best football

1044
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 4: this season. This feels like an absolute must win for

1045
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 4: the Ravens, even though they get to play the Steelers

1046
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 4: one more time. If they follow to seven and eight

1047
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 4: and the Steelers win again, it's not gonna happen for

1048
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 4: the Ravens, even if they beat the Steelers in their

1049
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 4: next head to head meeting. So I feel like this

1050
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 4: game is so meaningful for both teams in very different ways.

1051
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,439
Speaker 4: The Patriots could end up blowing a big division lead

1052
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 4: and the Ravens might miss the playoffs. So what do

1053
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 4: you think in here, Drake may Lamar Jackson?

1054
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 3: This is why the NFL is the best because it

1055
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,240
Speaker 3: doesn't matter what's happened all season long. This game matters

1056
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 3: a lot for both teams. And the Patriots it's amazing

1057
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 3: how think how they were feeling when they were up

1058
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 3: twenty one to nothing over Buffalo. It's like, we're gonna

1059
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 3: blow out the Bills, We're gonna win this division, and

1060
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 3: we're gonna keep pace with Denver for the one seed,

1061
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 3: and then Josh Allen leads to comeback and now today

1062
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 3: they're thinking, like, we have to beat a desperate Ravens

1063
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,919
Speaker 3: team on the road in primetime to have a shot

1064
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 3: at the one seed and to hang on to our

1065
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 3: division lead. It's amazing. It's incredible drama. And the thing

1066
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 3: with the Ravens is I haven't had a chance to

1067
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 3: watch them a lot because they've been playing at the

1068
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 3: same time as us over the last couple of weeks,

1069
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 3: especially since Lamar came back. I know, like their numbers

1070
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 3: aren't very impressive, and I guess big win over the

1071
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 3: Bengals last week, but generally speaking, I just cannot count

1072
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 3: them out because it's Lamar Jackson. And we're going to

1073
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 3: learn a lot about this Patriots team, like you were

1074
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 3: talking about, where you're a young team that's defying expectations,

1075
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 3: but now you've been punched in the mouth and you

1076
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 3: have a must win game on the road against a

1077
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 3: team that's kind of been there and done that in

1078
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:45,760
Speaker 3: terms of played in big games and been in the playoffs.

1079
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 3: It's exciting to see what we're going to learn about

1080
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 3: this Patriots team and if they can handle it, and

1081
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 3: if they can beat the Ravens and what's essentially a

1082
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 3: playoff game for Baltimore says a lot about this Patriots

1083
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 3: team moving forward. But it's interesting, you know, looking at

1084
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 3: the Steelers schedule in regard to the Ravens. They have

1085
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 3: the Lions this week at Detroit and Detroit kind of

1086
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 3: inexplicably playing for their playoff lives. So totally this division,

1087
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 3: This division's fascinating for a lot of reasons and curious

1088
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 3: who makes it in. If the Ravens can make it in.

1089
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 3: It's the same way I felt about the Chiefs until

1090
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 3: we were eliminated, Like, if the Ravens can make it in,

1091
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 3: I think they have a great shot of making some noise,

1092
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 3: but they got to get there and it won't be easy.

1093
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 4: Well, you know, I always qualify the Lamar Jackson remarks

1094
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 4: because for Frankly, he's not been a great postseason quarterback.

1095
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 4: He's been electric in the regular season, but you know,

1096
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 4: the Ravens don't have any signature postseason wins since he's

1097
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,760
Speaker 4: gotten there. Yes, if he gets in, it is Lamar Jackson,

1098
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 4: but he has not been the physical.

1099
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 5: Player that he was before.

1100
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 4: He's not running away from people, he's not doing crazy

1101
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 4: scrambles and then making big plays.

1102
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,760
Speaker 5: He's clearly dealing with injuries.

1103
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 4: He does not look like Lamar Jackson normally looks, so

1104
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 4: I'm actually discounting them. I think, well, the Steelers have

1105
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 4: the tougher schedule right now, the Steelers are playing better,

1106
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 4: They've got momentum. I realize everything can change in a week,

1107
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 4: but I think the Ravens are in real danger of

1108
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 4: not making the playoffs. So for my final thought this week,

1109
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 4: there were a lot of different ways I was going

1110
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 4: to go. I was going to do the Brady Mahomes

1111
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 4: timeline of the ACL injury, and I realized most of

1112
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 4: so many people are talking about the similarities are there.

1113
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 4: I think the science is even better now. I expect

1114
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 4: Mahomes to be back sooner than people think. Maybe not

1115
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 4: week one, but I expect my October first he'll be

1116
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 4: the starting quarterback. So I think it's sort of like

1117
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 4: my worst case scenario is Hims missing the first month,

1118
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 4: but I feel like that's going to be really talked about.

1119
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 4: My thought that one of my biggest takeaways from this

1120
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 4: season is the changing in the kicking game. Now, what

1121
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,320
Speaker 4: they've allowed the teams to do for people who don't know,

1122
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 4: is the kickers now have their own balls and they

1123
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,320
Speaker 4: can work those footballs. It used to be they just

1124
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 4: came out of the package, right, and then you kicked

1125
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,760
Speaker 4: with them. Well, now what's happened is it's made kicking

1126
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 4: so much easier, and maybe some fans love it that

1127
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 4: you get to midfield.

1128
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:08,240
Speaker 5: And you're in field goal range.

1129
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,240
Speaker 4: Really, that is a huge change from what the NFL

1130
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 4: has been during my lifetime. And you know, I'm gonna

1131
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 4: harken back to the Colt Seahawks game the other day.

1132
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 4: So the Cults are at the forty seven yard line

1133
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 4: of the Seahawks with like a third and seven. I

1134
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 4: figured that this is two down territory, right, Well, actually

1135
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 4: they run the ball, pick up four yards and then

1136
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 4: their kicker casually makes a sixty yarder and then coming

1137
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 4: back Seattle. Now, like, if you get the ball at

1138
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 4: the thirty, you really only need like twenty twenty five

1139
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 4: yards to be in field goal range. I feel like

1140
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 4: it's really hurt defenses around the league. So I'm not

1141
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 4: suggesting I'm on one side or another, but I think

1142
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 4: it's something that everyone needs to talk about. Is this

1143
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 4: what we want the NFL to look like? Where you

1144
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 4: can make a sixty five yard field goal.

1145
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,359
Speaker 5: And it's a routine event. I don't know if that's

1146
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:58,280
Speaker 5: good for our sport.

1147
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 4: Maybe it is because people love But you know when

1148
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 4: when the thirteen second game, right when when Mahomes got

1149
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 4: them in field goal range, Like that wasn't a sixty

1150
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 4: five yard kick, right, and they had to go with

1151
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 4: a significant distance to get themselves set up for Bucker,

1152
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 4: you know, to push that game in overtime. So I'm

1153
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 4: just curious your take, like, what do we want the

1154
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 4: NFL to look like in the kicking game? Do we

1155
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 4: want it to be where you literally get the ball

1156
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 4: to just midfield and you have a chance to make

1157
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 4: a field goal at the end of the game.

1158
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1159
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 4: That doesn't seem to me to be fair to the defense,

1160
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 4: But I'm open to having a conversation about But I

1161
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 4: really do think that the NFL owners need to have

1162
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 4: a conversation about what do we want the kicking game

1163
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 4: to look like moving forward.

1164
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 5: I'm curious what you think.

1165
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:39,959
Speaker 3: You have a lot of background with the Arena League.

1166
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,240
Speaker 3: Do we need to shrink the goalposts make it tighter?

1167
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 4: I just don't think that we want kicking to be

1168
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,800
Speaker 4: this easy, right, I mean, the goal posts in the

1169
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 4: Arena League are half. That seems extreme, but you know,

1170
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 4: could you You know, because the hash marks line up

1171
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 4: in the pro game, so college kicking is harder because

1172
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 4: the hash marks are outside. So many times do I

1173
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 4: actually have to angle your kick? NFL kickers, if you

1174
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 4: just kick it dead straight from either.

1175
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 5: Hash it's gonna go in.

1176
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:06,399
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1177
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,959
Speaker 4: So I just think that the kicking's gotten too easy.

1178
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 4: These guys have gotten so good. It just doesn't seem

1179
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 4: right that you take the lead with thirty seconds left

1180
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,479
Speaker 4: to go in the game and you actually don't feel

1181
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 4: good about it because you know, if they just especially

1182
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 4: if you're playing the Cowboys or Jacksonville, those guys could

1183
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 4: make it from seventy yards so you actually don't even

1184
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 4: need to get to midfield.

1185
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,359
Speaker 5: You can get to your own forty seven yard line

1186
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 5: and have a chance to win the game. I don't

1187
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 5: that doesn't it doesn't seem right to me.

1188
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1189
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 3: Well, what I think is tricky is when you pair

1190
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:40,240
Speaker 3: how good kickers are now with the new kickoff rules.

1191
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 3: So it happened to us this year where we took

1192
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,399
Speaker 3: the lead over Jacksonville with less than two minutes left,

1193
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 3: But I guess the kick went out of bounds in

1194
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 3: our case, so it went to the forty. That was

1195
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,720
Speaker 3: our fault. But because you can't just kick a touchback

1196
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 3: and it goes to like the twenty like it used to,

1197
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 3: because you want the kickoffs to be more engaging, well,

1198
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 3: at minimum them the opponent's probably starting at like the

1199
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 3: thirty five and probably better than that to where they

1200
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,479
Speaker 3: only need a couple first downs and to your point

1201
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:09,399
Speaker 3: and field goal.

1202
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 5: Rate one yeah, one first down for some of these kickers.

1203
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 4: If you get at the thirty fives, I don't. Yeah,

1204
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 4: it just it's just so foreign to me that this

1205
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,320
Speaker 4: is where kicking has gone to. It just seems that

1206
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 4: changing the football and how it's used during the week

1207
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 4: has had a much more dramatic effect because they've never

1208
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:29,280
Speaker 4: done before than I anticipated. Is actually between like I agreed,

1209
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 4: the kickoff rule, paired with them tailing the ball for

1210
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 4: the kickers has really.

1211
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 5: Just changed special teams completely.

1212
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it has, And I think I talked about this

1213
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,760
Speaker 3: earlier this year. But there has to be a point

1214
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 3: where kickers can't keep getting better, right, I mean it's

1215
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 3: like with the forty yard dash. I always talk about

1216
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 3: that where someone sets a new forty yard dash record

1217
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 3: at the combine every couple of years. Well, eventually, like

1218
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 3: human anatomy doesn't make something possible, Like what is the

1219
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 3: breaking point for kickers? Like what will be in twenty years?

1220
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 3: How long will these field goals be? Like eighty nine yards?

1221
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 3: I just don't get where the point is where you

1222
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 3: can't do it anymore. I guess we'll find out one day.

1223
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, so that's it for my final take. What is

1224
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 5: your final thought for today's episode?

1225
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, this is something that we kind of talked

1226
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 3: about at the beginning of our bid and Mitch and

1227
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 3: I have been talking about too. What right now kind

1228
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,800
Speaker 3: of reminds me of And it's not quite apples to apples,

1229
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 3: but it is similar is twenty twenty two in the

1230
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 3: off season, when we're coming off a devastating loss to

1231
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 3: Cincinnati in the AFC Championship Game, and in March we

1232
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 3: traded Tyreek to the Dolphins. And it's funny looking back

1233
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 3: on that now because of everything that's happened, but that

1234
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 3: day was a tough day. I remember that. It felt

1235
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 3: like a tough, tough day where you're saying goodbye to

1236
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 3: a future Hall of Famer, to a franchise legend, to

1237
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 3: a player who has been It's so important to this

1238
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 3: team for so long, and you wonder, what are we

1239
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 3: going to do now? Is this window closing? And I

1240
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 3: remember talking with Mitch that day about him and I

1241
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 3: both thinking this, You know, this is a tough day.

1242
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 3: Things are going to change and be different. But what

1243
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 3: an opportunity we have in front of us. We're a

1244
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 3: team that's in the middle of a generational run with

1245
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 3: the greatest player in our sport and Patrick Mahomes, and

1246
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 3: we have an opportunity to use these draft picks that

1247
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 3: we got for tyreeg and this extra money we have

1248
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 3: and all that to set us up for the next run.

1249
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 3: Can we take advantage of that? And it's pretty incredible

1250
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 3: to see what happened where not only did they take

1251
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 3: advantage of it, they went to three straight Super Bowls

1252
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 3: and won two of them. And the pieces that allowed

1253
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 3: that to take place were, yes, Mahomes and Chris Jones

1254
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 3: and all those guys, but also the players that you

1255
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 3: got because of the move where you don't get George

1256
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 3: Carloftis and Trip McDuffie and Jalen Watson and Isaiah Pacheco.

1257
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 3: Who knows if you get all those guys if you

1258
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 3: don't make the move. So that was an opportunity the

1259
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 3: Chiefs seized and actually they came out better in terms

1260
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 3: of the Super Bowls and the success then they were

1261
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 3: going into it. So again, it's not quite apples to

1262
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 3: apples with the situation. We didn't just trade a player

1263
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 3: and get a haul of draft picks. But what we're

1264
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 3: dealing with right now is a season that we all

1265
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 3: acknowledge is not at all what we expected and it's

1266
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 3: been disappointing and a bummer. But the Chiefs are going

1267
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 3: to end up with a super high draft pick and

1268
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 3: we're going to have an opportunity here to extend this

1269
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 3: even further. So to those that talk about like the

1270
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 3: Chiefs run being over, I mean, Patrick Mahomes exists, Coach

1271
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 3: Reid exists. These people that have made this run what

1272
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 3: it is are still here, and we actually have an

1273
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 3: opportunity to set ourselves up now for a run of

1274
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:57,439
Speaker 3: success that who knows, could be equal to or even

1275
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 3: greater than what we've enjoyed over the last three seasons.

1276
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 2: So got to go do it.

1277
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 3: Nothing is given, but there is an amazing opportunity in

1278
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 3: front of the Chiefs. And even though it's not quite

1279
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 3: the same. I think we've seen how they've responded to

1280
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 3: a similar opportunity in the past, and they have succeeded magnificently.

1281
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 3: So that's what I'm excited about moving forward. And I

1282
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 3: remember how I felt that day when we traded Tyreek,

1283
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 3: and I'll remember how I felt on Sunday when I'm

1284
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 3: walking out of the stadium and thinking, like, man, you

1285
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 3: know that hurts. But I talked about this with Mitchell Rewind.

1286
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 3: I remember Mahomes after the twenty eighteen AFC Championship game

1287
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 3: where we got so close to getting back to the

1288
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 3: super Bowl, and his words were, it hurts because it's

1289
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 3: supposed to hurt. But he wasn't feeling sorry for himself.

1290
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 3: The next day after that game, he was getting to

1291
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 3: work and what do he do? Led us to the

1292
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 3: super Bowl the very next year, led us to three

1293
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 3: super Bowls over the next five years. Let's seize this

1294
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 3: opportunity like everyone in this building has done time and

1295
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 3: time again, and let's get back to being on the

1296
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 3: mountain top. That's my final thought today.

1297
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 4: And I'll just tag it with we're always comparing Mahomes

1298
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 4: to Brady, right, because Brady is the goat, and really

1299
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 4: he's the managing stick for all great quarterbacks. Well right

1300
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 4: at the exact very similar in age when they had

1301
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 4: the ACL injury. You know, Brady went on to win

1302
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 4: three more so the future is bright for the Chiefs.

1303
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 4: It's okay, as I said earlier, to grieve and to

1304
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 4: be sad and to be bummed. But I would hope

1305
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 4: these next three games, as a true fan, you can

1306
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 4: kind of relax and just enjoy it, right because it

1307
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 4: doesn't have the pressure cooker feeling anyway. Hopefully the guys

1308
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 4: can go out and play loose, play fast, and just

1309
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 4: kind of enjoy football because it's the greatest game in

1310
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 4: the world. Well, that's going to do it for the podcast.

1311
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 4: Within the podcast this week out West with Ari Wolf

1312
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 4: Big thanks you met, and that will do it. And

1313
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 4: I hope everyone enjoys the game this week. Go get

1314
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 4: a win against the Titans.

1315
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 1: Well thanks all ry. The mission's changed, but he's on it,

1316
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 1: you know, he's on it. So our lead scout or

1317
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 1: spy if you will. We usually start with around the world,

1318
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 1: waited half our what do we have?

1319
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 2: How many you got two?

1320
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 3: Josh Williams to today, So shout out to Krueger.

1321
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 2: Kind of a cool name, just one name, Justuger.

1322
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 3: Krueger is just Krugers. It's exactly like like European soccer players. Yeah,

1323
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 3: just Kruger, Kruger. That's the name on the back of

1324
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 3: the jersey.

1325
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 2: What up, Kruger.

1326
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 3: So Ellie and I went to the Oak Park Mall

1327
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 3: last week. We had kind of a weird, eclectic day

1328
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 3: last week. It's one of those things where before big games,

1329
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 3: I always do this where you know, all the prep

1330
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 3: is done, I am ready and prepared for the game,

1331
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 3: and I just almost need to distract myself, Like I

1332
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 3: don't want to sit there and watch twelve hours of

1333
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 3: football coverage on a Saturday before a Chiefs game that's

1334
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 3: really important. And there was no like college football on

1335
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 3: besides the Army Navy game. So anyway, I watched that.

1336
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 3: But then after that we were all around town. We

1337
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 3: went to Oak Park Mall and we were walking around

1338
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 3: and Kruger came up and said, Hi, So shout.

1339
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 2: Out to you, Krueger Krueger. Nice one name, yep. Cool.

1340
01:01:57,560 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 3: Then also shout out to Patrick, not that Patrick, a

1341
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 3: different Patrick. I met Patrick and the elevator on game

1342
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 3: day and he said that he enjoys listening to our stuff.

1343
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:05,440
Speaker 3: So shout out to you.

1344
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 2: Patrick.

1345
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 3: I'm sorry the game was not fun, but I hope

1346
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 3: you had a good time regardless before the stuff at

1347
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 3: the end happened. And hopefully I'll see you again sometime

1348
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 3: on a better day.

1349
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 1: And I'll mention the international people that come to the

1350
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 1: Kingdom Show after a home game. Yeah, Petra, we mentioned

1351
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 1: her from Deutschland. She stayed over for another home game

1352
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 1: and we came to the Kingdom Show. But this was

1353
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 1: Dimitri this time from London.

1354
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 3: Wow.

1355
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, so we got well UK coming back on it,

1356
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 1: a couple guys from Jersey hungover. So it's become a thing.

1357
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:36,439
Speaker 1: Go to the game Hanger, adding out the Kingdom Show

1358
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 1: and then fly out Tuesday.

1359
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 3: Yeah all right, you'll get people from like Luxembourg and

1360
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 3: Taiwan and everywhere.

1361
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 1: Before you know it, we'll see you at a game

1362
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 1: and at the Chiefs Kingdom Show. Okay, you got something

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01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 1: you want to close with?

1364
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1365
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 3: So on I think it was Monday. Rather than doing

1366
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 3: my normal Monday, which is quickly recapping the game, it

1367
01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 3: just happened.

1368
01:02:58,000 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 2: It won a great day for us.

1369
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 3: It was okay, it wasn't. If we're being honest, it's

1370
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 3: kind of like what ARII and I talked about, like

1371
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 3: Mitch and I live and feel this like everyone else does.

1372
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 3: And if I'm being totally honest, I think Sunday was

1373
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 3: the toughest day for this franchise in probably about ten years.

1374
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 3: You are eliminated from the playoffs with three games to go.

1375
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 3: That hasn't happened in a long long time. You lose

1376
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 3: a game that I felt like we should have won,

1377
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 3: which unfortunately has been the story of the season. Another

1378
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 3: three point loss, another one score loss, but then losing Mahomes,

1379
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 3: who is the ultimate warrior. And the thing with Mahomes,

1380
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 3: you can just never question how much he wants it.

1381
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 2: You know.

1382
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 3: You can look at different pro athletes and different sports,

1383
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 3: even the greatest ones, and say, I can tell you know,

1384
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 3: maybe he's not going one hundred percent. What I love

1385
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 3: about Patrick is he is one hundred percent in every

1386
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 3: single second at the time. And I'll tell you what,

1387
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 3: even if we had lost that game and he hadn't

1388
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 3: gotten hurt, he would be game planning, getting ready like

1389
01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 3: crazy to beat the Titans. Like he wouldn't be like,

1390
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 3: so I'm gonna take the rest of the year off.

1391
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 3: He would be wanting to win the final three games.

1392
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 3: He is the ultimate gamer, the ultimate warrior, the ultimate

1393
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 3: representative for our team and for our city and for

1394
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 3: our region. And it breaks my heart what happened to him.

1395
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 3: And you know, we heard from Rick broke Holder today

1396
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 3: it sounds like all things considered, with the already having

1397
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 3: the acl l CL, no other damage beyond that, and

1398
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 3: he was rehabbing on Tuesday already, so he's attacking this

1399
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 3: thing and he's getting after it. With all that being said,

1400
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 3: Monday was a tough day and instead of flipping the

1401
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 3: page and preparing for the Titans, I was thinking about

1402
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 3: this moment in history for the Chiefs, and a lot

1403
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 3: of people who are sick and tired of the Chiefs

1404
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 3: beating their team in the playoffs are celebrating the end

1405
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 3: of the Chiefs, right.

1406
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've seen them on social media. Thank you. It

1407
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 2: really helps us.

1408
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they're celebrating that.

1409
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 2: Appreciate it.

1410
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 3: We've been talking for the last hour or so about

1411
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 3: how this is not the end for the Chiefs. It's

1412
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 3: the beginning of a new opportunity and it has me

1413
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 3: thinking about a phone call that you and I had

1414
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty one, where of course we had lost

1415
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 3: to the Bengals and just heartbreaking fashion in the AFC

1416
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 3: Championship Game, and then we traded Tyreek, and you and

1417
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 3: I were on the phone kind of talking about how

1418
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 3: are we gonna attack the next few weeks, the next

1419
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 3: few months, and the words that came out of your

1420
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 3: mouth were, what a great opportunity this is, you know,

1421
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 3: as daunting, as challenging as this feels, what a great opportunity.

1422
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:32,200
Speaker 3: And you were right, like, this is the end of

1423
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 3: this particular part of the Chiefs run where Tyreek got traded.

1424
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 3: But we have a great opportunity in front of us

1425
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 3: to maybe come out better on the other end. And

1426
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 3: look what happened. We go to three straight Super Bowls

1427
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 3: to win two of them because we took advantage of

1428
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 3: that opportunity. Well, we have another opportunity in front of

1429
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 3: us now. And this is my long way of getting

1430
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 3: to this. I looked up some other great dynasties in

1431
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:55,439
Speaker 3: sports history and how they handled moments like this. Well,

1432
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 3: here's a handful. So the Miami Heat went to four

1433
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 3: straight NBA final from twenty ten through twenty thirteen. They

1434
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 3: were going for the three peat in twenty thirteen, but

1435
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 3: they lost. They missed the playoffs the next year, but

1436
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 3: they were back in the playoffs the following season. The

1437
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 3: forty nine Ers went to the playoffs fifteen times in

1438
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:17,919
Speaker 3: sixteen seasons from nineteen eighty three through nineteen ninety eight,

1439
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 3: winning four Super Bowls. Well after winning back to back

1440
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 3: Super Bowls in nineteen eighty eight and eighty nine, they

1441
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 3: came up just short in their quest for a three

1442
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 3: peat in nineteen ninety and they missed the playoffs in

1443
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety one. They were back in the conference title

1444
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 3: game a year later. The Dallas Cowboys went to the

1445
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 3: playoffs six straight years, winning three Super Bowls and four years.

1446
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 3: Then They missed the playoffs in nineteen ninety seven, going

1447
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 3: six and ten, and Troy Aikman, Emmett Smith and Michael

1448
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 3: Irvin played in all sixteen games in that season. Their

1449
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 3: season actually kind of looks like ours. They were six

1450
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 3: and five at one point and then lost their final

1451
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 3: five games. Well, they rebounded to make the playoffs the

1452
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 3: next year. Just a couple more. The Red Sox won

1453
01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 3: at least ninety games seven times in eight seasons from

1454
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 3: two and two through two thousand and nine, winning the

1455
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 3: World Series twice. They won just eighty six games, though

1456
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 3: in two thousand and six missed the playoffs entirely, but

1457
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:10,440
Speaker 3: then won the World Series the next year. And the

1458
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 3: one that I relate to the most, the one that

1459
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 3: I think could be this Chiefs team. The Golden State

1460
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 3: Warriors went to five straight NBA Finals from twenty fourteen

1461
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 3: through twenty eighteen. They won back to back titles in

1462
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 3: twenty sixteen and seventeen before losing in twenty eighteen, and

1463
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 3: in twenty nineteen they went fifteen and fifty. Now, Steph

1464
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:34,920
Speaker 3: Curry was out most of that season, but that's a circumstance, right.

1465
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 3: The Chiefs have dealt with a lot of circumstances this year.

1466
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 3: What the Warriors do? They bounced back to have a

1467
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 3: winning record the following the season and they win the

1468
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:45,920
Speaker 3: Finals again in twenty twenty one. So this is a

1469
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 3: crossroads moment once again for the Chiefs that we've faced before.

1470
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 3: We've seen it throughout history where teams have these incredible

1471
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:54,959
Speaker 3: runs of success and they hit like an inflection point,

1472
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 3: and these teams that I listed, they seize that opportunity

1473
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 3: and it wasn't the end for any of these dynasties.

1474
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 3: We all recognize these as great dynasties, right. They continued

1475
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 3: on because the team took advantage of the opportunity in

1476
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 3: front of them and they figured it out and they

1477
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 3: were back on the top of no time. That's the

1478
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 3: goal for the Chiefs. You're moving forward, and that's what

1479
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 3: I'm fired up about.

1480
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, my surface is messing up there. Just let me

1481
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 1: turn it off and see if it comes back on. So, well,

1482
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 1: it's working.

1483
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 2: How about that?

1484
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 1: It says Okay, it's minshew, it's music city, it's motivation.

1485
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:29,720
Speaker 2: It's a reboot, it's a recharge. Let's go. It also

1486
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:30,719
Speaker 2: says beat Tennessee.