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Speaker 6: Episode number seventy one.

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Speaker 4: We got a lot of stuff we gotta get to.

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Speaker 6: Today we're gonna start actually going to get to and

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Speaker 6: as we keep going, we'll get into the Cowboys lost

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Speaker 6: last night, they lose twenty seven to seventeen. We'll talk

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Speaker 6: about the storylines of those of that game. The areas

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Speaker 6: where the Cowboys couldn't get things going, there were quite

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Speaker 6: a few of those. We'll talk about that. But before

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Speaker 6: we get there. I do want to start by talking

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Speaker 6: about the trade deadline. They looks like the Cowboys have

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Speaker 6: made one move already. Jerry alluded to on the radio

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Speaker 6: this morning with one O, five dot three the fan

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Speaker 6: that there is more maybe in the works. He wouldn't

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Speaker 6: be specific, but there were more that at least is

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Speaker 6: being discussed. Let's start first with the move that they

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Speaker 6: did make. They traded a seventh round pick for linebacker

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Speaker 6: Logan Wilson, a position where they really do need to upgrade.

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Speaker 6: I think we all have been very clear about that.

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Speaker 6: Let's start first with the scouting report. What do we

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Speaker 6: know about Logan Wilson as a linebacker and what maybe

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Speaker 7: Team processor, solid and coverage and I think what like

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Speaker 7: a good way to kind of frame all this is

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Speaker 7: like versus what you have now. I think he'll be

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Speaker 7: the best cover linebacker that you have right now. He'll

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Speaker 7: be one of the better processing linebackers right now. If

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Speaker 7: you woke up this morning, you were probably underwhelmed thinking

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Speaker 7: that we're gonna get a Quinn Williams type character, or

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Speaker 7: well I can't say names over here, or just one

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Speaker 7: of these type of characters that's real hot in the

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Speaker 7: streets right now, right one of those elite type characters.

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Speaker 7: Logan is not an elite type of character, but he's

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Speaker 7: much better than what you have right now in terms

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Speaker 7: he's a he's a solid tackler. There's a lot of

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Speaker 7: talk online about why he was benched. He wasn't bench

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Speaker 7: because he was bad. He was bench he didn't want

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Speaker 7: to be there no more, and Cincinnati was all like,

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Speaker 3: But just me watching this film.

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Speaker 7: He was a good to solid player all the way

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Speaker 7: up until the point to where Cincinnati sat him. And

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Speaker 7: he's much better than anything that you have right now.

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Speaker 7: So when brother Jerry said that it'll be an immediate impact,

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Speaker 7: I mean he wasn't lying. You know, he'll be much

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Speaker 7: better than what you have. Not to say that he's

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Speaker 7: a top tier, elite type guy, but he's.

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Speaker 3: Much better than what you got.

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Speaker 7: So he's not really lose, no, just playing in the

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Speaker 7: same division.

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Speaker 2: That's what everybody's wanted to see them do. And you know,

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Speaker 2: I think the Cowboys have really struggled this year. And

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Speaker 2: did get a guy, as I've said, that can play

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Speaker 2: He's going to be where he needs to be, but

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Speaker 2: for you. That way it is. It is an upgrade.

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Speaker 2: It's not as you mentioned, adding ray Lewis or something

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Speaker 7: Basically, you can see him starting whenever Demo comes back,

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Speaker 7: that'll be the pair. But he's not stopping you from

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Speaker 7: drafting a top tier linebacker next year.

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Speaker 3: Basically agreed is he an.

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Speaker 8: I was like, I've run into Brian halftime, but last night,

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Speaker 8: by the end of that game, I'm like, screw the trades,

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Speaker 8: forget the trades, I don't care keep your picks whatever.

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Speaker 8: I'm done with this mess. But then you sleep on it,

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Speaker 8: of that, you gotta remember what you got left in

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Speaker 8: the season. Regardless of whether you think the Cowboys are

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Speaker 8: tough teams to be to face, and you've already been

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Speaker 8: But even then, Bran, even then, if you end up

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Speaker 8: But overall, light the trade bring some more because we

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Speaker 8: it takes some things, some pressure off over shown shoulders

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Speaker 8: because when he comes back, we've been talking about him

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Speaker 8: you need help a defensive tackle too, You need help

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Speaker 3: Else got all Davey Jerry on the phone.

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Speaker 6: Here's one thing I do wonder and I started thinking

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Speaker 6: a bit of a I'm think of the best way

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Speaker 6: to kind of say this, but do you think that

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Speaker 6: this is an indictment in some ways on lea foul

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Speaker 6: that during this time when they haven't really been able

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Speaker 2: I think it's an indictment on the scouting department itself.

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Speaker 2: And I say this because you've got guys that le

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Speaker 2: start to talk about fits. Was this the right fit?

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Speaker 2: Look at Demone Clark drafted by the previous regime. To that,

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Speaker 2: another guy. And then well there's another coordinator. Oh hey,

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Speaker 2: we we we sat in here during the draft and

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Speaker 2: he doesn't do exactly what we wanted.

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Speaker 4: To do, what they need, and that's the problem.

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Speaker 2: That's the problem. And you wonder why that, Maybe should

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Speaker 2: they have gone quicker on with the Logan Wilson thing.

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Speaker 2: You know, all of a sudden, you you're looking at

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Speaker 2: we're not very good at linebacker right now. You know,

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Speaker 2: maybe Logan Wilson should have been here two weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: You know why? Why? On why? On trade Day? And

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Speaker 2: that's why I'm and I say, I blame the I

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Speaker 2: blame the personal department. But it's that's unfair. The thing

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Speaker 2: that the fact that they're they're bringing in guys and

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Speaker 2: it's well, he's not a fit, he's not a fit,

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Speaker 2: he doesn't do what we you know, look at look

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Speaker 2: at all. There's just plenty. This this defense is littered

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Speaker 2: unfair is that we're you're players who haven't developed for

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Speaker 2: the previous regime, have absolutely no shot of developing for

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Speaker 7: You know, Brother Brian, brother Eagleton and Barlita. Some interesting going.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead. I'm going on.

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Speaker 7: With this with this coaching staff. That's very interesting. And

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Speaker 7: I just want to watch myself to not sound too arrogant.

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Speaker 7: At the end of the day, Man, I'm a dude

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Speaker 7: with a camera and a microphone. Nobody special. But I

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Speaker 7: do trust my eyes. And I say this during draft

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Speaker 7: season all the time. I encourage everybody to just trust

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Speaker 7: your eyes because more than likely you know you're right

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Speaker 7: if you just you know what I'm saying, Just follow

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Speaker 7: your gut. But it's a common theme around what's happening

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Speaker 7: with this staff this year to where when I'm in camp,

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Speaker 7: I go, boy, perry On tearing it up out there, yea.

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Speaker 7: And somebody hit Brian's golden phone and said that they

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Speaker 7: don't believe that perryonoll be all that much of a

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Speaker 7: upgrade and what we got, And I say, what damn.

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Speaker 7: You know, we'll clearly see Dovin Ezaraku and James Houston

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Speaker 4: Let's just put him in there and see how he plays,

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Speaker 8: Yeah, but I'm really interested to see what's gonna happen,

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Speaker 8: But my point to that, and we'll get into it

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Speaker 6: fourth and goal with the two, fourth and goal with

439
00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,320
Speaker 6: the four, to me, feels like there is less of

440
00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,960
Speaker 6: a chance you're going to convert it. And quite frankly,

441
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,840
Speaker 6: I think the momentum shift that happens when a team

442
00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,399
Speaker 6: is being gets driven on down the field all the

443
00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,879
Speaker 6: way down the gets into a goal to go situation

444
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:06,360
Speaker 6: and then gets four stops. I think that's a big shift.

445
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,720
Speaker 6: And on top of that, your defense is not one

446
00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,520
Speaker 6: that you feel like, hey, if they stop us here,

447
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,119
Speaker 6: that's okay. They're gonna be backed up in three plays,

448
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,679
Speaker 6: they'll be punning. That's not the kind of defense that

449
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:21,040
Speaker 6: you have. And so for that purpose. I thought, you

450
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,560
Speaker 6: need to get these street points. Points are important. Points

451
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,480
Speaker 6: are very important every time you go down the field

452
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,720
Speaker 6: because guess what, every time the other team gets the ball,

453
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 6: they're probably gonna get points. Whether it's a field goal

454
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,399
Speaker 6: or a touchdown. You need to keep up. That was

455
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 6: my rationale.

456
00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 4: What would you get?

457
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 6: What did you guys think as it happened, not considering

458
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,119
Speaker 6: the outcome? What do you think of the decision before

459
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:40,600
Speaker 6: the outcome?

460
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,080
Speaker 7: You know, Derek, is interesting that all the points you made.

461
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,919
Speaker 7: I feel like that's the exact same damn points I

462
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,720
Speaker 7: can make irrationalize while you go for it on fourth down,

463
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,360
Speaker 7: because you could be like, well, the Cardinal's gonna score,

464
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,199
Speaker 7: so we should take the points. That's my point. We

465
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 7: should be scoring seven because they gonna score.

466
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 4: But they're not always gonna score a touchdown.

467
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,639
Speaker 7: I think they always they not yesterday And you say

468
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:06,360
Speaker 7: it not hindsight, Yeah, hindsight. Jakob Brusset looked us out

469
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,159
Speaker 7: one time. Do you overthrew it a little bit to

470
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,399
Speaker 7: the right, Maybe had a little miss there and a

471
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 7: penalty and a long little something there. But for the

472
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 7: most part, if I'm Brian, shot and hire me in

473
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,879
Speaker 7: my mind, I go, man, we ain't gonna stop nobody today,

474
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 7: and that'll be the reason why I'm constantly going for six.

475
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,880
Speaker 7: I'm gonna be constantly going for sick, especially if I'm

476
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 7: the Cowboys offense. After that drive where you couldn't really

477
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 7: stop me at all, I'm going, hey, man, even if

478
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 7: I don't get it right here. In my mind, if

479
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 7: I don't get it right here, I'm just gonna keep

480
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 7: doing this again because.

481
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 3: Y'all can't stop me. They eventually stopped you.

482
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 7: But in my mind, my thinking is I can't trust

483
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 7: this defense whether they got a drive ninety five, thirty

484
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 7: fifty or seventy six. I need to put not only

485
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 7: score at score every time. I need to get six

486
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 7: every single time because I've been in games this year

487
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,160
Speaker 7: to where we've kicked for three and I go, man,

488
00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,199
Speaker 7: three not gonna get it right there. Three is not

489
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 7: gonna get it right there. So you you all can

490
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,199
Speaker 7: have the point. And this is a two on two

491
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 7: because Ambar is fnna make the point, so you all

492
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,199
Speaker 7: can make the the point of at that point in

493
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 7: the game, I wouldn't have I think this defense is

494
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 7: so terrible every point in the game is that point

495
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 7: in the game. I said this earlier talking to Brian.

496
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,919
Speaker 7: If you watch the broadcast view, there's a point in

497
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 7: every single game where the broadcaster goes, hey, man, this

498
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,439
Speaker 7: seems like the play of the game here where you

499
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 7: know it's either gonna this or this or this. I

500
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,439
Speaker 7: think that happens every single time the Cowboys getting a

501
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 7: situation like that, and it's either zero, three or six

502
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 7: every single time. So watching that, knowing that, I just

503
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 7: had faith that Jacob Bras said was gonna drive down

504
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 7: there and just do his thing. I'm like, bro, if

505
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 7: we don't get seven right here, it could get bad.

506
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 7: It just happened to get bad because you didn't score nothing.

507
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 7: You ain't scored nothing, so it got bad. But either way, Ambar,

508
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 7: police Hambor, no no, no runs on my team, no

509
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:54,880
Speaker 7: no go ahead, Bright Sugo, World War.

510
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 2: Let me, let me, let me bring to the let

511
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 2: me bring to the court of public opinion. Exhibit a

512
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 2: second half drive of the Cardinals, the first drive of

513
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 2: the second half. That that right there is all you

514
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 2: need to know that every time you see a three

515
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 2: play march the way they did. They come out the

516
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 2: first pass is fifty five yards. I'm thinking oh okay,

517
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 2: you know, haven't had a chance for my right out

518
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 2: of half time, right at halftime. This is I think,

519
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 2: actually the defense. I think there were some moments where

520
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,880
Speaker 2: they were actually pretty good yesterday later in the game.

521
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 2: Thank your offense lets you down yesterday, I really do.

522
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 2: But exhibit a for me of why go for it

523
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 2: was exactly what happened on that. Every time I think

524
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 2: it's going to be the drive that started the second half,

525
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 2: I just do. I just don't. It's a huge play,

526
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 2: it's another huge play, and then it's a walk in

527
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 2: touchdown or somebody falls down or they miscommunicate. I got

528
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 2: to take I got to have every I got to

529
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 2: have every opportunity to have seven there. I just can't.

530
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 2: I'm like fog, I'm sitting there thinking like that, you know, hey,

531
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 2: I've done this before. I could drive it on them again. Okay,

532
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 2: we'll just saddle back up and and do it again.

533
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 2: But they but they didn't. They didn't. They never got

534
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,679
Speaker 2: back to that. But I just think this defense, like

535
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 2: I said, it's that that second half drive, just that

536
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,719
Speaker 2: that just reminded me of where they are at on

537
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 2: defense at times. And that's that's always why I would

538
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 2: never punt, and I would never and I'd always go

539
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 2: for the touchdown on the situation.

540
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 6: But you know, I think that's also where I look

541
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 6: at it. I'm like, after that before before they went

542
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 6: forward on fourth down, I believe what you just said, Brian.

543
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 6: I was like, Oh that was that was a really

544
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,400
Speaker 6: nice drive. Ye Oh, they'll be back. They'll keep doing

545
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 6: this all day. And the moment they didn't get that

546
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 6: fourth down, that's when the doubt started to creep in

547
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 6: of like is this gonna be like it was last week?

548
00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 6: Is this going to be this offense and not really

549
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 6: being able to get everything going as they.

550
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 4: Need to consistently throughout the game to keep up.

551
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 6: And I think that's why when I say momentum shifts,

552
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 6: that's what I mean by momentum shifts is it's one

553
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 6: thing when you can have a really great drive, if

554
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 6: that ends in three points, you come out of that

555
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,679
Speaker 6: drive feeling like, Okay, we did some good things. We

556
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 6: go next time we're getting in zone. You come away

557
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 6: from that drive with zero points and you were at

558
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 6: their four. You come away from that like what just happened?

559
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 6: Like Yeah, But I'm saying I think I think those

560
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 6: are the kind of momentum shifts that I don't want

561
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 6: to give the other team that. There's no reason to

562
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,919
Speaker 6: give them that that early in the game. Take your

563
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 6: three points. It's there for you. By the way, as

564
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 6: bad as this defense has been, and now this is

565
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 6: gonna sound really weird. It sounds like we're really setting

566
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 6: the bar extremely low. But most games this year, they

567
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 6: haven't given up a touchdown every time, they've given up

568
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 6: a field goal at least some of the time.

569
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,400
Speaker 4: So my thought is, if you're gonna.

570
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 6: Keep up, at least you need to score every drive,

571
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 6: like you need to come away with at least three

572
00:26:58,359 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 6: every drive in.

573
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 4: Order to keep up. Coming away from zero is just

574
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 4: not an option.

575
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 8: Here's my thing, and I agree with most of what

576
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 8: you both said, but my problem is the timing of it.

577
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 8: I did not like for that decision to be made

578
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 8: right off the bat in that first drive. And I

579
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 8: had issues with that drive because even though they did

580
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 8: have some good ones, there some good plays. You gotta

581
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 8: drop from uh from Scooonmaker and then Ferguson and those two.

582
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 8: I was, you gotta, you gotta feel the vibe, you

583
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,360
Speaker 8: know you can't do you gotta I was feeling it, well,

584
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 8: I should say I was not feeling it. Something was

585
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 8: just like ehh, because you can set the tone. Yeah, sure,

586
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 8: let's set the tone. But if you make it, you

587
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 8: do the opposite if you don't. So it's not always

588
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 8: very smart to do that. And sometimes we've seen it

589
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 8: with this offense this year that it kind of takes

590
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 8: a few drives, maybe after the first drive to that

591
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 8: for them to you know, get to the end zone,

592
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 8: but right there to begin, right off the bat, and

593
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 8: it just gives me a sense of we're like, oh, now,

594
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 8: we're not trusting the defense at all right off the bat.

595
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 8: And credit to the defense actually, because this is the

596
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 8: most I've seen them do when you talk about stats,

597
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 8: I mean, I was busy posting graphics yesterday from the defense,

598
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 8: things that I have us all year in Spanish.

599
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 2: In Spanish, Oh well yeah yeah.

600
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 4: Oh, you don't follow. You don't follow someone.

601
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 3: Because I don't speak. I thought you spoke, yeah wow.

602
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 7: Because you don't seem like type person that's ever shot

603
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 7: Dice in a in a bad neighborhood before.

604
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 3: You don't seem like type maybe Derek.

605
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 7: But there's certain things that you wouldn't do normally but

606
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 7: urgency requires you to take chances.

607
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 2: By the way, haven't either you know.

608
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 7: Maybe you know, maybe like there's an't belief that, but

609
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 7: go ahead. There's a certain circumstance that's making you do

610
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 7: this dangerous thing. Traditionally in football. I even heard like

611
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 7: Babe talking about it, right, traditionally in football, Brand talked

612
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 7: about it too, old man football. Yeah, take the points

613
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 7: and play defense. But we're in a bad neighborhood. We

614
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 7: need to get this money and go. There needs to

615
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 7: be more urgency to the table because of who we're

616
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 7: dealing with.

617
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

618
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 2: I'm saying I'm.

619
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 8: Going for it. You're playing at home, which you have no.

620
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 7: No, no, no, you're not scared of going for but

621
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 7: you're scared of going for early.

622
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 3: You're saying early.

623
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 2: I'm not strive.

624
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 3: I think we're in a bad.

625
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 7: Enough neighborhood where we need points all the time because

626
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 7: it's dangerous.

627
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 4: Yes, that's the point, Yes we need points all time

628
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 4: if you have a chance.

629
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 6: But if you have a chance for three, you know

630
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 6: you're not in a position to be like three just

631
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 6: saying I don't care about three, I won't want you.

632
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 3: No, that's where we disagree.

633
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 14: You're in a position where you need points wherever they

634
00:29:58,960 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 14: come from.

635
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 4: You tell I'm gonna get a safety, Yep, bring it on.

636
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 4: I need to give me how many I need points?

637
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 4: How many times I don't think three is enough?

638
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 2: How many times, Derek, have we been in these games

639
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 2: where it's like we're kicking too many field goals?

640
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 3: Yes, that's what I'm saying.

641
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 2: And you're like, going, we're kicking too many field goals today.

642
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 2: We're kicking too many field goals today.

643
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 6: I make that assessment once I'm into the second and

644
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 6: third quarter and we've now kicked three when we've been

645
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 6: in the red zone.

646
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 4: I don't do that on the first drive.

647
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 6: On the first drive, I say I had a nice drive,

648
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 6: I got down in the gold to gold situation, they

649
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 6: got me to a fourth down. I take my three

650
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 6: might and the next time I'm getting in these did

651
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 6: you feel like that Arizona was gonna stop you though?

652
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 6: When you got down there in the on the four

653
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 6: yard line.

654
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 4: Honestly, I was shocked that they stopped them.

655
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 2: Yes, that's what I'm saying. I I think you had momentum.

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Speaker 2: I do think you had some.

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Speaker 4: And that's what and if you block, if you block.

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Speaker 2: If you block, if if, if Steel doesn't get overwhelmed.

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Speaker 2: You got Ferguson wide open in the corner, but the

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Speaker 2: quarterback couldn't get there. I couldn't even go through his progressions.

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Speaker 2: And I understand that part of it. But to me,

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Speaker 2: I'm I appreciate the coach trying to make I mean,

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Speaker 2: he was trying to say, let's finish this thing off please.

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Speaker 2: I mean, to me, kicking the field goal would have

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Speaker 2: been like, damn, we just drove this and did and

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Speaker 2: we just sixteen yards, fifteen yards, eighteen yards, and now

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Speaker 2: we're kicking field goals. That seems like kicking a field

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Speaker 2: goal to that's like a win for them.

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Speaker 3: It's a win for them. But guess what, they don't

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Speaker 3: even need momentum. We so bad.

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Speaker 6: Zero was a bigger win for them. That's my point,

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Speaker 6: and that's my whole point is again, I hear what

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Speaker 6: you're saying. I'm just for me at that point in

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Speaker 6: the game. If it would have been a little later

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Speaker 6: in the game and I'm seeing, Okay, this is a

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Speaker 6: consistent thing. We're getting in the red zone and we're

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Speaker 6: not getting touchdowns. At some point you say Okay, we're

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Speaker 6: gonna go for it, right, We're gonna go for it

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Speaker 6: at that point in the game.

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Speaker 4: First drive, you had a successful drive.

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Speaker 6: Why give up the momentum, take the points that are

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Speaker 6: there for you, and see what happens the next time.

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Speaker 6: Like keep extending, keep right, let's keep.

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Speaker 3: Going next year. I'm with that.

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Speaker 7: I think a normal defense, I'm with it a normal season,

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Speaker 7: but I think how bad your defense is expedites the

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Speaker 7: urgency that.

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Speaker 3: Hey man, I've just seen.

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Speaker 7: Russell Wilson throw for four fifty yeah and foe touchdowns

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Speaker 7: against these cads. I know Jacoby gonna get busy because

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Speaker 7: that's what all the quarterbacks have done this year. Bow

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Speaker 7: Knicks put forty on these people. I'm not just gonna

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Speaker 7: just assume that they're not gonna get six. Right, yere,

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Speaker 7: I'm going for it every time I'm gambling.

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Speaker 6: All right, let's take our final break. We will come back.

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Speaker 6: We'll get into some other topics. It's taken a lot

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 6: I didn't want to talk about the offensive line yesterday.

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Speaker 6: I think really both tackles, well, you could actually say

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Speaker 6: all three tackles retackles, all three tackles struggled yesterday, and

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Speaker 6: coming into this game, I don't quite remember it.

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Speaker 4: Maybe I'm wrong.

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Speaker 6: I don't recall us talking last week about this being

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Speaker 6: some vaunted pass rush and these defensive ends. I know,

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Speaker 6: we know josh well, we've seen Joshua josh We's a

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Speaker 6: good player. Don't get me wrong, He's not a bad player.

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Speaker 6: But I did not expect yesterday he would be a

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Speaker 6: beast like he was, And it seemed like there were

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Speaker 6: all kinds of issues at the tackle position when it

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Speaker 6: came to stopping him and others.

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Speaker 3: Well, I have told you so got there? You know,

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Speaker 3: did you hit that yes last week?

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Speaker 7: I'm not bran tell tell him I'm not told so good.

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Speaker 7: But I was like, hey, man, if it's a way

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Speaker 7: that they can whoop up on you, it's putting pressure

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Speaker 7: on the table. I did kind of say that there,

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Speaker 7: but I'm not here to be told. So you forgot already.

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Speaker 4: Maybe you didn't express it strongly.

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Speaker 6: I expressed it strong Maybe it was kind of like

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Speaker 6: this could be a possible.

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Speaker 3: You talked about this for We talked, but you know

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Speaker 3: what it is.

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Speaker 8: It's like sometimes when someone just talks so much and.

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Speaker 3: Just give me.

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Speaker 8: Hard for the other person's giving exactly.

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Speaker 7: Right, and have some class, just say I was right first,

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Speaker 7: and then you can go into your little joke.

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Speaker 8: The compliment you never stopped talking about. Are the offensive

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Speaker 8: line man? So he does always talk about.

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Speaker 6: Honestly, I was not expecting Leis Campbell too, I said,

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Speaker 6: I know Clais Campbell.

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Speaker 2: Is a good player.

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Speaker 4: I know Josh Sweat's a good player. I didn't expect.

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Speaker 6: Them because what we've seen so far, and this is

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Speaker 6: This is I guess where the questions going. What we

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Speaker 6: saw yesterday was not necessarily a huge departure from what

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Speaker 6: we've seen at other times this year. There have been

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Speaker 6: other times when games where Dak was under durest the

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Speaker 6: entire Yeah, it turned out like this.

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Speaker 4: What was the difference justice.

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00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 2: Dak couldn't avoid, he couldn't get avoid. Dak has Dak

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Speaker 2: has been the deodorant for a lot of pressures every week.

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Speaker 2: When we break down the games, you you go through

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Speaker 2: the offensive line and you go three pressures, four pressures,

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00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 2: five pressures, four pressures. Everybody's got multiple, multiple pressures. So

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Speaker 2: to me, this was a game where we'd seen Dak avoid.

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Speaker 2: Our previous games, we'd seen Dak avoid pressures and make

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00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 2: those throws. This game wasn't one of those.

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Speaker 6: Was it about the coverage or the receiver's not getting

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00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 6: opened quick pressure pressures.

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Speaker 2: It's like, but all of a sudden, when when Dak

816
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 2: was looking for someplace, and if you look at the

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00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 2: five sacks, they all have a common thread. It's somebody

818
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 2: getting pushed and Dak trying to step and then gets captured.

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Speaker 2: It usually Dak is able to kind of step out

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00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 2: of stuff or spin out of stuff and then go

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Speaker 2: He couldn't do that when when he tried to move

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00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 2: or navigate in the pocket, he couldn't go anywhere. And

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Speaker 2: then and then you know, you had his own lineman

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Speaker 2: on top of him and the guy you know, or

825
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 2: getting around or it was a quick move inside, and

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Speaker 2: now he's trying to avoid and he okay, whoa he

827
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 2: made he made that defensive tackle miss. But oh wait,

828
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 2: here's the guy, you know, here's the end that's going

829
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 2: around Nate Thomas. You know that that was the game yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Dak's inability to avoid the quick pressure was their downfall

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Speaker 2: on those five sacks. In my opinion.

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Speaker 7: Also, if you're a pass rusher and you know that

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00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 7: passes is coming, then you can rush freely. The threat

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Speaker 7: that you can get hit back in the mouth slows

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Speaker 7: you down a little bit, you know. And I think

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Speaker 7: that when the defense puts you in a place where

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Speaker 7: you have to throw the football, you can't run as.

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Speaker 4: Much because the run game was actually performing.

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Speaker 3: The run game was phenomenal until the wouldn't please.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the thing that you and I talked

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Speaker 2: about this morning. Though, watch teams are okay with you

842
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 2: running the ball they're like, it's it's kind of like

843
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 2: the Vic Fangio old way of like, sure you run

844
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 2: the ball, Fine, you can't. You know, you're not gonna

845
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 2: score any points. You know, we'll figure it out. We'll

846
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 2: figure we'll stop and we'll make you play. Eventually, you're

847
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 2: gonna have to throw. But look, every every every it

848
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 2: seems like every week Dallas plays. They have a really

849
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 2: good running game. We talk about every week. It's like, wow,

850
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 2: the guy had eighty yards, guy had one hundred yards,

851
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 2: guy had seventy five. Wow, it's a good running game.

852
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 2: Like it's it's to the point where Dallas's running game

853
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 2: is not helping them because teams are just saying, yeah,

854
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 2: go ahead and run. And they're worried about Dak. They're

855
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 2: worried about Pickens, they're worried about Lamb, they're worried about Ferguson.

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00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 2: Those are the guys that are worried about those. The

857
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 2: guys are gonna kill him in a game. It's not

858
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 2: it's not Williams, but Williams has done a really good job.

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00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 2: But every time every time we said yeah it's a loss,

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Speaker 2: what happened, Oh, well, Williams ran the ball well the

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00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 2: other team's going, yeah, great, you lost, you ran the ball, great,

862
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 2: but you couldn't do anything else, you know. That's that's

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00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 2: that's the issues right now there, And he's okay with you.

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Speaker 6: Don't You don't think it's an issue though, of the receivers.

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Speaker 6: You think that's just it's just a situation where basically

866
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,399
Speaker 6: their offensive line is not protecting well enough that cover.

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Speaker 2: That cover four stuff is no joke. And Dak is

868
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 2: usually a cover for a killer. But the way that

869
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 2: these guys played, you know, you play ninety three percent zone,

870
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 2: you know, and you make it difficult, and you know

871
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 2: you didn't you didn't have the downfield chunks that we've

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00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 2: seen from this, you know. I mean, Dak had to

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Speaker 2: make some really some great throws, but the protection, the

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Speaker 2: protection wasn't wasn't there for him. And and when when

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Speaker 2: they the route running too late in that game, and

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Speaker 2: I wrote down in my notes there was some playground routes,

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Speaker 2: you know, but when it gets when it gets third

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Speaker 2: and seventeen and it gets fourth and whatever, you know

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Speaker 2: they're going to be But they they just they had

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Speaker 2: a hard time getting through that at getting through that

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Speaker 2: Arizona secondary.

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Speaker 8: They really did when you mentioned the receivers, because it's

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Speaker 8: easy to assume all the receiver didn't make that play.

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Speaker 8: But then on some plays, when you look at it

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Speaker 8: and you look at the pressure that Dak is having,

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Speaker 8: it throws off the timing. It throws off the timing

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Speaker 8: of when the ball is supposed together, when he's supposed

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Speaker 8: to make that throw, and just a few seconds screws

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Speaker 8: up the whole play. So I felt like there were

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Speaker 8: several of those happening, and if you really dissect what's happening,

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Speaker 8: it all falls back to the offensive line, the protection,

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Speaker 8: and Dak being off his game too. I think now

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Speaker 8: it's starting to affect us that it's also like, Okay, well,

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Speaker 8: in previous games where they were more successful, Dak was

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Speaker 8: the one covering up the whole mess that was happening

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Speaker 8: at the offensive line. So they've been getting pressure before

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Speaker 8: and Dak has been able to come out of it successfully.

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Speaker 8: So now is it just a matter of just the

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Speaker 8: holland on the defensive line of the opposing team that

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Speaker 8: is just better than the previous teams that they've been facing.

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Speaker 7: I think Josh can Rush, I think Zaven Collins would

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Speaker 7: be one of the better rushes on your team right now.

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Speaker 7: I just think that you got in a situation where

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Speaker 7: you can't run the football and you're behind, and you

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Speaker 7: cloud the coverage and its Cover four, Cover six or

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Speaker 7: Cover two whatever they decided to run out, and you

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Speaker 7: just Terrence just didn't stand much, you know, much of

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Speaker 7: a chance like that.

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Speaker 3: You know it just it is what it is.

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Speaker 7: But but but Josh Sweat is like he ain't them guys.

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Speaker 7: But if there's a tier like right up under there,

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Speaker 7: Josh Swat.

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Speaker 2: Right, He's had some moments in his career when he

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Speaker 2: has played Terrence Still, and he's given Terrence Still some problem.

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Speaker 6: Didn't he have like two saxophone Super Bowl last year

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Speaker 6: something like that when with Eagles. So I mean, no,

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Speaker 6: go get me wrong, I'm not saying he's a bad

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Speaker 6: at all bad pass rusher. I just did not expect

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Speaker 6: him to just and it was like they were just

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Speaker 6: moving him around. He was whooping everybody in front of him.

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Speaker 6: And it made me just think, like there is no

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Speaker 6: real answer at this point for the Cowboys if all

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Speaker 6: three of them are going to play like they played yesterday.

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Speaker 6: Because you thought, okay, well, we could always slide Nate

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Speaker 6: in there, Nat'll be fine. He can kind of stabilize

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Speaker 6: things if one of the two isn't play well.

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Speaker 4: But they didn't have a great day, and so it's like.

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Speaker 6: When all three like, what recourse do you have at

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Speaker 6: that point when neither of the three tackles that you

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Speaker 6: have that you're running out there are playing at a

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Speaker 6: level that you need to play.

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Speaker 7: Real answers run the football, but you can't. You can't, right,

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Speaker 7: so call Tyren Smith or something. Everything else ain't working.

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Speaker 4: All right, We appreciate you, guys. Jones. We're gonna back tomorrow. Tomorrow,

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Speaker 4: you know it's gonna be a wednesdy.

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Speaker 6: But we might do a little bit of Brian's diving

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Speaker 6: into the brain of Brian brought us because don't have

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Speaker 6: a team to get ready for this.

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Speaker 4: Week, so we'll do a little of that.

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Speaker 6: We maybe hit a little more tifty more topics from

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Speaker 6: that game that we didn't get to today. We'll do

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Speaker 6: that for tomorrow for Vatch Lombardi.

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Speaker 8: Brian brought us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they happened today.

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Speaker 4: Hopefully hopefully they'll be a little more well.

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Speaker 3: Go take y'all calls. Basically what he's saying, go ahead,

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Speaker 3: it's a it's.

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Speaker 6: A Gumbo show. We're gonna do a lot of different things,

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Speaker 6: all right. For Wach Lombardy, Brian brought us Nabragard. See

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Speaker 6: I'm Derek Eton. This has been a break live on

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Speaker 6: Dallas with dot Com Radio.

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