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Speaker 1: at the time, I was just like, oh, yeahs an

421
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Speaker 1: outcast member. Was that anything that was ever on your radar?

422
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,639
Speaker 1: Do you have an audition for them? No? But I

423
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 1: wanted to do some insane thing whereafter Will and Grace

424
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 1: was over the first time, and I wanted I told

425
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 1: my agent. I was like, I think I'm gonna go

426
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 1: on CENTERNT Live or at least auditioned for it if

427
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 1: it's possible. And the whole agency was like, no, no,

428
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 1: You're not doing that. I would have been so rad

429
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 1: and fun to just go from that to that. But yeah,

430
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 1: from like the like the the what do they used

431
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:49,679
Speaker 1: to call They don't really say this anymore, but it

432
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 1: was like the not ready for prime time players that

433
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 1: they would say about them. It's like, Okay, this this

434
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 1: gentleman has done prime time to great success, but he's

435
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 1: going back to that three thousand dollar in episode So

436
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 1: but yeah, but you but because you did Second City, right, Yeah,

437
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 1: I was a Second City in Chicago. I never performed

438
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 1: in the main stage, but I went through all the

439
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 1: training programs and of those little shows within there. But um,

440
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 1: but yeah, I always admired all the people's journey from

441
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 1: either the Groundlings or Second City or IO in Chicago

442
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,439
Speaker 1: or you know, in prov Olympic or whatever. Isn't there

443
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 1: another one? Oh yeah you CB? Yeah? Yeah, I mean

444
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 1: how did you bow and do? I'm always fascinated by

445
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 1: that journey? Well I was. I was kind of like you. Um,

446
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,679
Speaker 1: I was taking classes, but I never got into like

447
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,120
Speaker 1: the actual like theater sanctioned groups that performed their Matt

448
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,159
Speaker 1: and Matt was on a sketch team. But I just

449
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 1: took the classes. They paid a lot of money. To

450
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: not be actually in the system. But I was just like, well,

451
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 1: at least I have the training, and then Matt and

452
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 1: I would would sketch comedy together, and uh, I don't know,

453
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,159
Speaker 1: my managers just told me to put in a tape

454
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 1: one time one year and this is such a long shot,

455
00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 1: so I'm just gonna like have fun with it, like

456
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,679
Speaker 1: do things that like I knew they would never make

457
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 1: it on the show. Um, and somehow it kept clearing

458
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,880
Speaker 1: every stage gate. I was like, oh, this is actually

459
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: like I never in a million years thought it would happen,

460
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 1: So I think that was probably helpful. I don't know.

461
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: And then there was and then you know, Matt, I

462
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 1: don't know, if you kid with me, bring this up,

463
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: bringing up, mentioned it all, mentioned it all, so that Matt,

464
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 1: one year after I was put in a holding deal

465
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 1: for like a whole year, Matt got invited to audition

466
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 1: as well. So both of us went in the same

467
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 1: day to eight age. Yeah. I think I knew that. Yeah,

468
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 1: I might have told you about it. Yeah, I screen

469
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 1: bone screen tested four times, I screen tested twice, and

470
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 1: I had us on holds for six months. Yeah, both

471
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,679
Speaker 1: of you guys friends, It's so wow. What a story.

472
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 1: I know, it's one day, one day, it'll all get

473
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 1: fleshed out in something we do, because it really is

474
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 1: a crazy story. That My favorite story about it, my

475
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,439
Speaker 1: favorite short story about it, is that they put us

476
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 1: in the same dressing room the second time we were

477
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 1: screen testing, and I think they thought like, oh yeah,

478
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 1: mattin Bow and they're still addressing room like that there.

479
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: They'll love to be together this day. But it's like

480
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: a really high stake stand. You want to be by yourself.

481
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 1: You want to be by yourself, like I love my sister,

482
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 1: says an American idol. You guys aren't really friends because

483
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: you're competing against each other. Well, yeah, I mean, and

484
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 1: Simon was there. That's another thing that SNL does. Simon

485
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: into every room and heard I heard yeah, and he

486
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: sort of says, he says that you're dreadful. You know,

487
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 1: he does his whole time and he says you're dreadful.

488
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,640
Speaker 1: And it's the real Simon Cowe's and not even Daryl Hammond.

489
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 1: That was that one of your auditions, like impressions, Yeah,

490
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: that's that's what they missed out. On my eyes. It's

491
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 1: like I'm talking to Simon, but they basically we're there.

492
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,400
Speaker 1: We're there like it's our they have our second screen stuff.

493
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 1: We've been on hold for months. You're not allowed to

494
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,479
Speaker 1: do anything else while you're on hold. And we're like

495
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: both rehearsing art characters. And one of Bowen's characters that

496
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 1: he was auditioning with was the choking victim in the side. Yeah. Yeah,

497
00:26:55,920 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 1: the model, the model for the choking poster. Yeah. And

498
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,120
Speaker 1: it was like con of tense in the room because

499
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: we're both like focused on the audition. But at one

500
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 1: point Boone was just like just making gags sounds, just

501
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,199
Speaker 1: like making gag sounds. I rehearsing his coughing, and I

502
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 1: turned to him and I was like, they all sound

503
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 1: the same, like I'm here too, I know, And we laughed.

504
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 1: It was good. We laugh, we laugh, We laughed. That's

505
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: good though. It build it builds a stronger bond. Yeah,

506
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 1: and look we're we're we're both okay. Now. Everything looked

507
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 1: out exactly like that always does always. Here's my question

508
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: that I had, Yeah, how do you because I just

509
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: the one time I hosted, I know what the grind

510
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 1: is and everybody talks about that the hours and hours

511
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: and hours. How do you, like, for example, right now,

512
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: are you in New York? Right now? I am, okay,

513
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: So how do you balance all of that work and

514
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: then do this? Oh well, this is I mean, I've

515
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 1: had to like recalibrate like my relationship with the podcast

516
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 1: for the last year because like Matt's like heard me

517
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: say like sometimes I'm like I too burned down to

518
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 1: do this like for the next few weeks. But then

519
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 1: he kind of snapped me out of that one day

520
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 1: by just being like, well, when I do the podcast

521
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: with you, it's I don't consider it to be work.

522
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: It's just me hanging out with my friend. And I

523
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,239
Speaker 1: was like, that's the way I have to frame it,

524
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 1: is that it's not actual work, and it's and and

525
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: He's right, it's not me like sort of tricking my

526
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: mind to do thinking something that it's that's not true.

527
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: It's it is true that this is not actually just

528
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 1: hanging out the boris it's it's just hanging out. Do

529
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: you feel that way about SmartLess? Yeah? Absolutely, my god.

530
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 1: I look forward to it. And by the way, we've

531
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: spent so much time anyway, Like I was just at

532
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 1: Jason's house last night and it's me and Scotty like

533
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: started getting into football, like enjoying. Oh yeah, the big game.

534
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: A lot of people watched football last night who normally

535
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: don't watch football. Yeah, it was really really exciting. What happened?

536
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: What was the What was the Chiefs Chiefs versus the

537
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: forty Niners Packers? No, the who it was? It was

538
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: Kansas City? Uh and and the and the and the

539
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 1: and uh Broncos. Sounds like you didn't enjoy it that much.

540
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: But anyway, but of course anytime a football player like

541
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: got tackled or bent over. Me and Scotty my husband

542
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: are like part noises, you gallows humorists. Yeah, but yeah,

543
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: so so we we enjoy hanging out on the podcast

544
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: and the outside of the podcast, they make me laugh

545
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: so hard. They're so funny. Yeah, it's so dumb, like

546
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: the dumbest, stupidest fucking jokes ever. I feel like you

547
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: guys have that perfect intersection of smart and stupid, which

548
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 1: is like, which is heaven, which is what Conan says,

549
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: is like heaven. Like, yeah, because we don't know anything

550
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: about you, think, anybody, or anything, and we claim to

551
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: be a pop culture podcast. Yeah, you guys know, but

552
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: you're singing songs at the top thing. I had no idea.

553
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: I have no idea what those are, Taylor. You don't

554
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: I know some Taylor? But ten minutes song? Good God,

555
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: good God, I think I'm off. Would you consider yourself?

556
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: Would you identify Bow and us off book on the

557
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: ten minute all too Well? I told you, I said

558
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: on this very podcast that they did. It was released.

559
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: Me and Gail King are both on the studio floor

560
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 1: at SNL watching Taylor do both both versions of the

561
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: song addressed in air, and both Gail and I holding

562
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: each other's hands. Sorry, this is me name dropping, but

563
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: like I love it. And then and then and Ryan

564
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: Reynolds turning to me and going, you know all the words?

565
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: How do you know all the words the songs? The

566
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: song hasn't been out for more than thirty six hours.

567
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: I was like, I know, I just don't question it, sir.

568
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: I don't think you understand Sir. You're like, how do

569
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: you not? Do you not? Sean? Who do you? Sorry

570
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: to say? But stand like, who's your number one? Oh?

571
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: I think I know the answer. I know the answer

572
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: to this number one? What number one? Like pop star diva?

573
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: Who's your girl? I feel like the answer has to be.

574
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: Can I can I answer for you? It's different than

575
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: my character from Will and Grace. Yeah, I was saying,

576
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: I know, I assume, but but that moment was who

577
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: doesn't by the way, who doesn't love share? Yeah? Okay, sorry,

578
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: but I but see this is like, this is interesting.

579
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: I'm gay who didn't like I didn't grow up around

580
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: Judy and Barbara and Share all those things. Not they're

581
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: all phenomenal. But I was Depeche Mode, New Order, Erasers,

582
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: Eraser and and Morrissey and the Smith's and like all

583
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: the music I listened to and revered right and then Belly,

584
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: Joel and John Like I never really was that, but

585
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: I love musicals. Can I throw something out there? And

586
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: this is dearly departed? Were you a meat Low fan? No,

587
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: I mean I love the songs, but yeah, okay, I

588
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 1: was reaching there, but I mean meat love did pass,

589
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: and so I had to um. I had to ask

590
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: because you were sort of saying theater and also rock

591
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: music the perfect intersection. Yeah, yeah, for nothing. Think that's

592
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: what we're staying on Q for us. You're saying in

593
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: Q for us you did well? Then then then then

594
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: what's the answer to the question. All those all those bands,

595
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: all those people. Yeah, yeah, yeah, boys it well, but

596
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: where I went to school and colleges that it was

597
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: it was like the the alternative group. So it's like like,

598
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys know Chicago very well,

599
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: but there's a place called Medusa's and Melissa McCarthy went

600
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: there at the same time I went there, but we

601
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: never lacked feather. We talked about like how that one

602
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: it was a juice bar for eighteen and over righte

603
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: no alcohol it was, but they would play. It was

604
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: a place where like skinheads and gay guys and gay

605
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: girls and everything in between, and like you know, people

606
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: who like with tattoos, Like we all kind of met

607
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: and went that's the freaks, the outcast, the weirdos, those

608
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: from the other side of the tracks. That's exactly right.

609
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: That was my crowd. I love that. And so you

610
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: do compartmentalize, like the share of the judy, the like

611
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: the barbs. You like that that's Jack and that's not Sean. Yeah,

612
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: I mean that that I don't appreciate that, but no,

613
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: I get it. I get it, But then I then

614
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: I apologize for presuming that. But I just feel like

615
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: what I think is remarkable, and Matt me if you agree.

616
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: I feel like the whole convention and share impersonations that

617
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: is whole. That is a Sean Hayes invention. That is

618
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: jack which because no one else was doing it before.

619
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: Well thanks, Yeah, it's she just just kind of um

620
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: and every single word and know how you would be well,

621
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: but you have to take the last vowel of any

622
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: word and put an owen, so you would be right,

623
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: but you would be Matt rod Jo's I feel like

624
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: that's the rule. That's the rule. That is one the

625
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: established rule. But Sean, and please do not take this

626
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: the wrong way. But I feel like the whole is

627
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,479
Speaker 1: that is one of the best non impression impressions. Does

628
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: that make sense? It is we recognize it as being

629
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: part of the like lexicon of share and being in

630
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: that lex kind of share impression. And my friend Dave Anderson,

631
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: who was one of the funniest people alive me and

632
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: him used to do that all the time. I kind

633
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: of got too, so he's he's great. You know what's funny?

634
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: Like on RuPaul's drag Race, like a couple of years ago,

635
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: and I felt bad for some of the queens who

636
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: like culturally, you could tell we're just not familiar with

637
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: share because Rue has it in their head. Well, if

638
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: you don't know share, you can't win drag race. It's

639
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: very much like this weird thing that Rue has. But

640
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: I remember they did like an episode where they all

641
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,240
Speaker 1: had to do a share impression, end dance, end sing,

642
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 1: and like the queen that ended up getting like voted

643
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 1: out was like RU was like, we didn't see any share,

644
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 1: like you didn't do any of the stuff, And it

645
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: was so clear what they wanted was Oh, it was

646
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: so clear they wanted something that was more you doing

647
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: share than it was Share that It's like it's truly

648
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: moved into being the share. Isn't that funny? You know?

649
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 1: I was too about because I was such a huge

650
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,879
Speaker 1: SNL fan when I was in high school too, when

651
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: I was in grade school and high school and then

652
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: of course forever never, but I feel like everybody would

653
00:34:55,680 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 1: go back to school on Monday doing impersonations of the

654
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 1: the impersonation, right, so we would do we would do

655
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 1: Billy Crystal's impression of Fernando, or we would do Will

656
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 1: Ferrell's um George Bush. You know, yeah, like like a

657
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 1: Maya Rudolph, Donna Tella. It's essentially like an insane slavic woman,

658
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: not Donna tell but you never question it. I always

659
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 1: felt like with impressions, and I'm obviously, you know, not

660
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: an impressionist, but I've always felt like, when I really

661
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: enjoy an impression, it's more about the commitment and the

662
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: joy and the discovery of something about it than it

663
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: is accurate impressions. Like I kind of could care less

664
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: that someone comes out and does an accurate thing. I

665
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: just want to see something exaggerated at Yeah, it's almost

666
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,919
Speaker 1: too like um in a TV show or a movie

667
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: or something when an actor is like playing you know,

668
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,879
Speaker 1: a famous person and I well know their hair wasn't

669
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: like this, and I have to get this thing, and

670
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 1: I feel like give to ship. Yeah, yeah, because it's

671
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: just your version of it. It's like, don't overthink it.

672
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: Why am I so angry about it? Matt, Matt rounds you.

673
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,760
Speaker 1: I think I think, I think I think I wanted

674
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: you to get picked off. Yeah, watch this. Watch this

675
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: number one rated episode of Lust Culture. E watched this

676
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: absolutely brutalizes Nicole Kidman's Lucille Ball brutalizes it. You said

677
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: nothing I I used her as an example because it

678
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: was so expert. Oh my god, Sean, I will say

679
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: before I forget, before the the opportunity leaves me. I

680
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: feel like I feel like one of the most influential

681
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: comedic performances for me growing up was Jack coming in

682
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: on Catheine because he's on he has a crush on

683
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 1: the new berresta downstairs or just the copy. I mean that, like,

684
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: it's just you coming in for like what one minute,

685
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: two minutes? Just just do it a little loop. There's

686
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: very sweet to say that they wrote that, you know,

687
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 1: like on a on a sitcom, they they rewrite a

688
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: lot as the week was on is rehearsed, just like

689
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: Santa and and uh they wrote that huge monologue. It

690
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: was like two pages long. And I was like, girl,

691
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: I can't. There's you cannot change a word of this

692
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: because I handed this to me Monday night and expect

693
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 1: me to take it on Tuesday night. You know, you

694
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: just can't because we don't have t cards, so we

695
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: have to memorize. So uh so they promised not to

696
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: change the word and I was just walk around my

697
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,959
Speaker 1: apartment just over and over and over. How many takes

698
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: that do you remember how many takes that was too? Yeah,

699
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: oh I did. I did one and I got it

700
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: except for like the end, and then I got it

701
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 1: to you too. Might as well be one for that,

702
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: you know what you know it's like. But all the

703
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: other episodes that was like twenty three takes each change, Well,

704
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 1: that's an efficiently shoot schedule. I mean like two pages

705
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,720
Speaker 1: and two takes. Yeah. Well, well, James Burrows, Jimmy Burrows,

706
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 1: you know, was our director. Jimmy Burrows directed I don't

707
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: know if you guys know, every episode of Cheers, every Crazy,

708
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: He directed Friends, Big Bang, Theory, two and a Half, Man,

709
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: Mary Tyler, Moore, a Taxi, all those shows. So he's like,

710
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 1: you know, the Steven Spielberg of sitcoms and uh and

711
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: although Jimmy would say, or Steven's like the Jimmy Burrows

712
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: a film, but but he's like my dad. He's the

713
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,720
Speaker 1: greatest guy ever. And he would work so so so fast,

714
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 1: and so what I was doing, like the like the

715
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: My Rootolf had My Rootolf show for five seconds was

716
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: like one special and everybody's working so fast. Right. Because

717
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: of Saturday Night Live and because of Jimmy Burrows, I

718
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: was used to that pace, but it would scare not

719
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 1: necessary that my Rutolf show, but other shows like that

720
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: or Maya Marti or whatever sketch show. I like the

721
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: fast Best Best Best Master. I know a lot of

722
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 1: people are like, wait, I have to find my character.

723
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 1: Everyone else isaked up. Yeah yeah, but so different now.

724
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: I mean like there's just not a lot of multi

725
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: cam happening. It's funny because like whenever you get auditions

726
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: for them, it's nowadays it's like you have to kind

727
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: of snap out of like what they train you to

728
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 1: do for a single camp because like I remember when

729
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: I was when I was doing pilot season a couple

730
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 1: of years ago. Um, it was just like to get

731
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: that random little multi kim that'd be in there, it

732
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: was like, Wow, it's like a completely different performance mode

733
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,240
Speaker 1: to me, Matt, what is your What is the dream

734
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,720
Speaker 1: for you? What I actually I'm actually about to start.

735
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: I start shooting next week the show with Molly I'm

736
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: and I love that for you, which is the Vanessa

737
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: Bays regular. Yeah, oh my god, my favorite people all

738
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: in one show that I know you text me, you

739
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: want to know what it is like? It got Greenlits

740
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: so long ago. You did text me and this and

741
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 1: this is what I just like, I had to shake

742
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 1: my head at my luck that I get Shawn Hayes

743
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: to text me congratulations on. I mean, you're just the best.

744
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: And just to everyone out there knows, like he is

745
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: that kind of guy. I'm rooting for both of you

746
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 1: all the time. I just love, love, love watching talented

747
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 1: people win and so but but and Jeremy Bailer, who

748
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 1: I love. He's like the greatest ever. I just I'm

749
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: really and I will say like we've had the table

750
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: reads now and Jennifer Lewis is in the show, and

751
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: it's just it's just real. I mean, I I can't

752
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 1: believe I always stopped short of being like I'm so lucky.

753
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: I'm so lucky because I did work hard, so I

754
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: feel very fortunate for it. But you can't be really

755
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 1: really quick just from this side. You could have worked harder,

756
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: but keep going. Yeah, you saw me slacking every day.

757
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: I'm just my boss. He gets no, you get to

758
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: make a job outside in UM. But like yeah, I mean,

759
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: I just it's it's really crazy. I mean you asked

760
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: like when we started the podcast Bone and I started,

761
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 1: you know, six years ago, when we were truly both like, okay,

762
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: and remember, guys, please come see our show at u

763
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: c B. It's on Thursday at seven thirty. See you there,

764
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: like and now you know it's different, it's so great,

765
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: it's so exciting both to do. It's just really, I

766
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: genuinely truly mean, I just love when good people, good

767
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: things happen to good people. That's very nice. And you

768
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: know we all know when good things happened to bad people. Yeah,

769
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: someone's example. I mean I might be someone's example of that.

770
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: I really do. It's okay, who out there thinks you're

771
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: a bad person? Plenty of people. No they don't. He's

772
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 1: trying to start a villain Argentcy. No, No, he wants

773
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: to be like Batman someone someone's I was just tired

774
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: today after work and someone sent me a d M

775
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 1: of is this you? And it's just a big pile

776
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 1: of shit and big well no, it was basically like

777
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: a picture of like you guys, like two ripped guys

778
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,720
Speaker 1: taking a mirror selfie and then there's like a middle

779
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: aged Asian man you know, behind them both, and it's

780
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 1: it's a little dark. But I was just like, I'm

781
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: blocking this person, so I did it, But now I'm like, well,

782
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: this person think of me as a bad person who

783
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: and then they think, well he doesn't he's well, I know,

784
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: but I know the real bowen ying behavior, which is

785
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:05,479
Speaker 1: that he blocks you if you d m him something

786
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: that you think is funny, you know, like that. I

787
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: think he's two online if that's the way they vote

788
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: terminally online. Absolutely, and I'm gonna say I'm gonna say that.

789
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: You know, the first time I was nominated for a

790
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 1: Golden Globe, we went to the Golden Globes as a

791
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 1: cast and I sat there in the time a television tier, right,

792
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: because they put you back just to make sure you

793
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: know you're a place, and uh, you gotta walk down

794
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: a couple of steps. Yeah. God, that's exhausting. I've always

795
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: been a two story house. Ever, I put my time

796
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: in at the Golden Globes climate anymore. Um. And I

797
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: looked around, and I do have a point so hanging there.

798
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: I looked around and I saw like, oh my god,

799
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: there's literally there's Tom Cruise and El Streep came up

800
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: and say hello, like all these people were just incredibly

801
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 1: starst at it, and you go, the first thought in

802
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: my head was, boy, we're all lucky, lucky because because yes,

803
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: everybody has talent whatever on some level, even the people

804
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: that aren't famous, even everybody working in a place somewhere

805
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: in the middle of nowhere, we all have like, there's

806
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: all talent, right, but we all got lucky. And I

807
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:21,280
Speaker 1: say that because so many people that I know could

808
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,439
Speaker 1: have played Jack, that our friends of mine, they could

809
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: have just played Jack. Why it happened to me, I

810
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: have no idea, because I got the right appointment on

811
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: the right they at the right there. So whatever it is,

812
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,439
Speaker 1: and that's why I think, Uh, it can it can

813
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: really really happen to anybody. I always stay to kids.

814
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:37,760
Speaker 1: When I talked to him in high school or college,

815
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: I was like pointing to myself, if this idiot can

816
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: make it happen, literally literally, anybody can't. It's true. Well,

817
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: we could dispute that because you are an icon and

818
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: it's so good. Um, but I understand the spirit of

819
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: what you're saying, which is that there's so many I mean,

820
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 1: and then and then wait really quick and then going

821
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: and Matt having met now worked having been working in

822
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 1: this business for for for now, I don't know however

823
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 1: long you guys have been working. Is now that you've

824
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 1: met famous people and now you are famous yourselves, don't

825
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: you go, Oh, everybody's the same everybody, Like nobody's better

826
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: than anybody, nobody's worse than anybody's just like all humans

827
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: are all the same. Yeah, the stigma of like putting

828
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: them on a pedestal. Right, it's just like, oh, you

829
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: do what I do. I do what you do. Everybody

830
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 1: does the same. We're on the same business together. Nobody's better. Yes.

831
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 1: But what I find interesting is and what I think

832
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: about when I think about smart List is that I'm like, oh,

833
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: these three people are from this like this this really

834
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: great like time in I don't know the culture that

835
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 1: I still do put up on a pedestal because I'm

836
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 1: just like because now I'm like, oh, I'm like I'm

837
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: like notorious right now at a time that's very like

838
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: we're holy and like everyone's famous. Like that doesn't really

839
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: mean much. Everything I just said back, I do it too.

840
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 1: You say that, I think, like, right, oh my god,

841
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: you Carol Burnet. It's crazy. Yeah, I feel like it

842
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: just that gets passed down and like I I really do,

843
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: like you know, I don't know, like when when Bateman hosted,

844
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: I was like, I can't believe I'm like in this

845
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: in the sketch with Jason Batemani know, like it's it's

846
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: it's all these things that I think. Um, I don't know.

847
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: I guess it's a generational phenomenon. I think people people

848
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: also over time become pros, you know what I mean.

849
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 1: That's another thing, is it's just you get good at

850
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 1: at doing this thing that from when you were a

851
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 1: kid was a dream. Like sometimes like sometimes I'll tell

852
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,879
Speaker 1: my parents about something I'm doing and they're like, wait,

853
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: what That's so cool, And I'm like, oh, wow, that's

854
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 1: I was just thinking of it as a work thing. Yeah,

855
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: Like and it's it's interesting like I remember being that like,

856
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 1: you know, server in my early twenties, Like I would

857
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 1: watch like the Emmy's from my restaurant job, you know

858
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 1: what I mean. And and then like over time it's like,

859
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: you know, you think it seems so far away and

860
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: you see the success feel so far away. And then

861
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: like even going through like the UCB system and knowing

862
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: people now in the entertainment industry, it's like there really

863
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: is not that much difference from people that are working

864
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: right now and people that are not, so I think that,

865
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: and I don't say that to drag anybody. I just

866
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: kind of say that to tell everyone that's out there

867
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:28,720
Speaker 1: still attempting this to hang in there, because because we aren't.

868
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: It's not like it was back then where you had

869
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: to be Carol Burnette to be Carol Burnett. Like now,

870
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 1: it kind of like with this single, came of it

871
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: all like you can just figure it out on YouTube.

872
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 1: And I'm kidding, but like, you know what's funny I

873
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: was gonna bring up. I was some reason I fell

874
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: down like a YouTube wormhole last night of Jane Krakowski

875
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: on Ali mcbeil singing the music in the Mirror like

876
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 1: she did. They for some reason like let her sing

877
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: music in the mirror from chorus line and she did

878
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: the entire number, and I was like, this is a

879
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 1: freak of nature talent that like broke through then and

880
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: is still around. And it's the same with you. And

881
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: we've also been talking about like you know, we we're

882
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: watching and just like that and how like you know,

883
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: we we are enjoying the show but really missed Samantha

884
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 1: because Samantha Jones. It's yeah, so um like Samantha Jones

885
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 1: and I on my point is like Samantha Jones and

886
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: Jack McFarland, I think are the two iconic performances. That's

887
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: what I would say. You're very sweet. Yeah we're rolling right,

888
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 1: yeah the um we're still rolling. Yeah yeah, I'm kidding.

889
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 1: Um so uh wait, what was gonna say? Oh it

890
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: has something to say? Oh yes, when I I we

891
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: have to I have to take some of that back.

892
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,760
Speaker 1: Like I wasn't kidding because when they were casting Jack's

893
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: dad for Will and Grace, um, they wanted um John

894
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,919
Speaker 1: Ritter from Three's Company. I used to watch these company

895
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: as a kid all the time. And he called me

896
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: because he couldn't do it because it's schedu stuff, but

897
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: he wanted to so bad so he called. That would

898
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 1: have been perfect I know, perfect right, and because I

899
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: was obsessed with his physical comedy. But I mean and

900
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:11,919
Speaker 1: and it was so wild to get that phone call.

901
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 1: He's like, oh my god, I'm such a fan like

902
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 1: of me. That's so crazy, yea, Sean, I mean, what

903
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 1: do you think? It's like? That's what I'm trying to

904
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 1: get across, Like, you know, for someone like us, like

905
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, you are you are everybody think they're not.

906
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: They're not. They're not. But culture really culture number thirty,

907
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: everyone's they're not. I think it's time to ask you

908
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: on the question. We gotta okay, just cut. Okay, great,

909
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 1: there's another question we have. We have another one, Sean Hayes,

910
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 1: What is the culture that made you say culture is

911
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: for me? This is like the pop culture. I mean

912
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 1: you kind of answered this already with like depeche Mode

913
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 1: and with the Smith's and yeah, well that's interesting. I

914
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 1: don't know if I'm answering the question right. But um,

915
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 1: when I was a freshman, I think in college at

916
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: Illinois State University, one of the greatest universities in the country. Um,

917
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: the song A Little Respect by Eraser the number one song,

918
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: and um, do you know the song? Yeah, have a

919
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: Little Respect? Yeah they they It's embarrassing how I discovered it,

920
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: but it was in looking the series and I was like,

921
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: what is this? Ever heard it before? I had never

922
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: heard it before. Oh my god. Okay, So I remember

923
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 1: being in freshman country that songs under Everybody loves Everybody

924
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 1: in the country, Like it was nuber one song in

925
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: America and it was number one song in England of course,

926
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: Andy Bell, the lead singer of Eraser was Out, was

927
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 1: again proud, proud out gay man in Yeah this is

928
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: before Madonna's Truth or dare where a breath? Like? What

929
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 1: are gay people? The other guy was The other guy

930
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: was the Vince Vince Bell, Vince uh, Andy Bell and

931
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: Vince Clark. Vince Clark was who wrote who wrote all

932
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:12,919
Speaker 1: the music for depeche Mode and yeah uh Vince Clark

933
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 1: wrote just can't get enough yeah, and then he wrote, um,

934
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: you know blue line dress for situation right, moving through

935
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,879
Speaker 1: the dome on the nation long time, been a long time.

936
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 1: Now I get you some. Yeah anyway, so uh he

937
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 1: would you guys just play the right for the rights

938
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: to those or no no, no, no no, and I

939
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: and and they and these things we have to take

940
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 1: the right. Guys. We didn't make money of this week.

941
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 1: We paid eight thousand dollars in music right if they had,

942
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,479
Speaker 1: if they had to do that for our podcast, we

943
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 1: we would be bone and I would be in debt forever.

944
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: And a lot of this is just us breaking out

945
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: into song. Okay, good, I love it. Okay, So sorry

946
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 1: for such a long answer to your question, but so no, no,

947
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: so Vince Clark and just a little respect, Blue respect, lower,

948
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: a little respect. So um, I was obsessed with the

949
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 1: song and the and the group. And then of course

950
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 1: and you meet your gay friends in college, like you're

951
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: gay two and you're gay two and this is before

952
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: internet and phones and everything. So, uh my friend Randy,

953
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: one of my best friends, still funniest fucking guy ever, gay,

954
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: proud out love him. He is like, you know that

955
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: guy's gay. I'm like, who It's like the lead singer

956
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: of the Raiser. I was like, what are you talking about?

957
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 1: Like it didn't I couldn't comprehend that someone in the

958
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: entertainment industry could make money at what they love to

959
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: do and be out. And I was like floored by that.

960
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 1: I was like, how is this guy have a job

961
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: making albums? I don't understand. And so I'm sure the

962
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: people before that that I don't not talking about. But

963
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:54,879
Speaker 1: for me, my awareness at eighteen and and I came

964
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: out at eighteen too as well to my family and friends,

965
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 1: and uh so that was just a big, big turning point.

966
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 1: That's a great answer. It's a great answer. O. La

967
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: Moore is like a song that I put on like

968
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 1: every Pride playlist every summer. I was just like, this

969
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 1: is a beautiful song. It's a it's it's like it's

970
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 1: like a it's a literal love song, you know, it's

971
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 1: rum Yeah. Every and then I would go to all

972
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: the concerts and then I ran into him on Rose

973
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 1: like and I was like, oh my god, and I go,

974
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 1: what are you guys doing tonight? And he didn't know

975
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: he was and he goes, uh, then he doesnt like

976
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: five years ago, and he's like, how do you memorize

977
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: all those what? All those lines? Not just it's like

978
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 1: you do it all the time you sing your songs,

979
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: you know. But anyway, Um, he was nice, he was nice. Uh.

980
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,959
Speaker 1: It's interesting that you say like that visibility was so

981
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 1: important to you and that it was like a turning point,

982
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 1: because you said you you came out to friends and

983
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: family when you're eighteen nineteen and and then when did

984
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 1: you get when did you so? Will and Grace was

985
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: your breakout? Right? Like, and at what point did that happen?

986
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 1: Ten years after that? Ten years after that? So I'm

987
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,919
Speaker 1: assuming that you live life throughout your twenties like sort

988
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 1: of like you know, being Sean who's the gayest person alive? Yeah, right,

989
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 1: and then you get this part, which is Jack who's

990
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: capital G gay and you know, a threshold opens um

991
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 1: in terms of television representation, and yet you still, because

992
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 1: of the time period, have to sort of recede from

993
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: that public. Yeah. I mean I didn't have to, but

994
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: I didn't come out on a lot of people's terms

995
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: because but we're also getting death threats and you know,

996
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: mailed to the thing, and we would get letters like this.

997
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 1: One woman sent us a letter, You're going to hell.

998
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:48,439
Speaker 1: But I love the show, and I was like what

999
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: and so uh so it scared me. I was young,

1000
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 1: and I didn't have the d NA to be a

1001
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: spokesperson for the entire gay community. I still don't. I

1002
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: still don't want the job. I'm just a stupid, fucking

1003
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: dumb actor, you know, So I don't. I don't have

1004
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: the I'm not slick enough to be that person. I

1005
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 1: gotta say, like, this is what I've learned about myself

1006
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: at least or just about like being queer and like

1007
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: on a somewhat visible platform, is that I'm like people

1008
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: always in such bad faith, like misinterpret who you are,

1009
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 1: and I feel like I feel like when you were

1010
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 1: unwilling grace. The potential for that was probably, like you say,

1011
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,439
Speaker 1: like we felt like it was it was, it would

1012
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,800
Speaker 1: have been very dangerous for you. I truly believe this.

1013
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 1: I really believe that, Like, because people knew my address,

1014
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,240
Speaker 1: people were coming to my house and I was so scared.

1015
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 1: I wasn't great. No no no, no, no, no, no

1016
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 1: no no. This is what I'm saying, is that, like

1017
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: I'm kind of like, God, if you guys, if this

1018
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: general audience cannot handle like me, I've I've said, I've

1019
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: talked about this too much on this podcast. But if

1020
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 1: if a general audience has trouble like following me or

1021
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: making sense of like who I am when I'm on

1022
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: their TV, I'm like, I'm like okay, then like and

1023
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: the headline I think probably is, and this comes with

1024
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 1: age and wisdom and experience and building confidence and self esteem,

1025
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 1: is that the more you that you can be, the

1026
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 1: more successful you would be in all areas of life, relationships, jobs, everything.

1027
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: And so you know, it took it took me a

1028
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:31,320
Speaker 1: long time to realize that. And so you know, again

1029
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 1: going back to the only live for five minutes, you know,

1030
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:36,399
Speaker 1: we're only here for five minutes. It's like it's it's

1031
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 1: it's too exhausting, as you know, as we all know,

1032
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 1: live any other way. Yeah, what were you inter erased here?

1033
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 1: It was that? Was that around the same time as

1034
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 1: George Michael going solo? Or was that? Yeah? Uh? Was

1035
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 1: freedom Freedom? Yeah? What? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

1036
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 1: We went to an eighties parties this summer and my

1037
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 1: friends and I were like, fucking George Michael, Yes, he

1038
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 1: fucking like was out here sucking Dixon Bathroom was not

1039
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: getting a ship like Bravo, like we owe. I feel

1040
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 1: like we owe a lot to the eighties to like

1041
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: the get the Clear men in the eighties were like

1042
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 1: doing it. That's because the year that album, although George

1043
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 1: is out then but publicly in but that I keep

1044
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: going back to because it was Vogue came out and

1045
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 1: Madonna was such a huge, huge, huge thing, and I

1046
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: don't I feel like it was like you're saying, it

1047
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 1: was all kind of around the same time, late eighties

1048
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 1: early nineties that people just got fed up with with

1049
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 1: hiding in that way. But I also think, like, you know,

1050
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 1: we've seen it, because it's the fact is like I

1051
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 1: think that there's all this queer representation now, but you

1052
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 1: forget like that in terms of the grand scheme of

1053
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 1: things like that's like a blink of a nile, like

1054
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:56,399
Speaker 1: like a like a second click on the talk, Oh

1055
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: my god on the talk, a second like tick on

1056
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 1: the clock of um, like history where it's been even

1057
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 1: okay to say that you are, you know, different in

1058
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,359
Speaker 1: any way. And so I just can't imagine, like I

1059
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: get a little bit of a glimpse of what bowen

1060
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 1: Um goes through, like you know, in terms of like

1061
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: what he represents to people. I think it's I think

1062
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: it's an absolute binary thing like it's it's it's if

1063
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: people get angry at you doing something. I don't know,

1064
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 1: I feel like your brain process is it the same way?

1065
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 1: Sorry no, but I agree, But I think watching you

1066
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 1: on Saturday Night Live, it's it's it's what I'm saying,

1067
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 1: it's because you don't make excuses, you don't make apologies.

1068
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 1: This is who I am, and the audience fucking loves

1069
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 1: you for it. Everybody loves that about not only you,

1070
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 1: but anybody who embraces themselves. And you did it. So

1071
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody thinks about it. You imagine if

1072
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 1: Twitter was around, like when Will first started, people would

1073
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 1: have been it would have been insane people. It's like

1074
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 1: a zoo with no enclosures. Even today in the year

1075
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 1: of Our Lord too, when everyone knows better like suck.

1076
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 1: Did you ever like go on like a message would

1077
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 1: be like I wonder what the folks think of my performance?

1078
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 1: I mean we've all looked right, Yeah, just like like

1079
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 1: if somebody writes a hateful thing on like Instagram or something,

1080
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 1: all I do every time is I just go, I

1081
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: love you so much. Yeah. Yeah, they're like the short circuit.

1082
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: They don't know what to do with that. Well they

1083
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. Yes, when you kill them,

1084
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: when when you kill him? Kindness? I mean, did anything

1085
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 1: fundamentally change when you guys brought it back, like in

1086
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: terms of did you just feel like you were just

1087
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 1: putting on? Yeah? No, I just felt like, well, you

1088
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 1: know the reboot you mean right, yeah, the we we

1089
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 1: we did that, um um what was it called the

1090
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 1: election video and so it was just got our point

1091
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 1: of view out. We hadn't seen each other since the

1092
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 1: show ended, and we did it all the crew did

1093
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 1: it for free. We did it for free. The writers

1094
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 1: that everybody came together in a secret um stage that

1095
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 1: was like it was like a stage underneath the building

1096
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 1: on the CBS Radford Lite, And and we shot this

1097
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 1: thing and we're like, by everybody, he was so great

1098
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 1: to see you, Oh my god, we haven't seen shin

1099
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: so long. And we kissed and we cried and it it

1100
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 1: was so fun. And then we put it online and

1101
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 1: it was like millions and millions and millions of people. Yeah,

1102
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 1: we're like what. And then so Bob Greenblad, who's a

1103
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 1: friend of mine, he was running NBC, was like, I

1104
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 1: think we should. Would you guys ever want to do

1105
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 1: this if we had Benner right here in this dining

1106
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 1: room I'm sitting at the dining room table like, oh

1107
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 1: my god. Yeah, everything's so sharp. It's like American Psycho.

1108
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 1: It's very scary the way. And we all ate here

1109
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 1: and we'll discussed it and we're just like, yeah, I

1110
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 1: think we talked about stories that we could do, and

1111
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 1: I think there's some unfinished stuff. So that's how that happened.

1112
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 1: Well yeah, anyway, god blast and we were all the

1113
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 1: better for it. Are you excited to go back to Chicago?

1114
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 1: It doesn't stress you out? Do you like going neck

1115
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 1: to Chicago? I love it. I love it. I love it. Okay,

1116
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 1: it's the great It's a great city. I love it

1117
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 1: so much. You know, so many friends there and family,

1118
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 1: and I just it's you love pizza. I love pizza.

1119
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 1: I love the Chicago food. It's so good. You love pizza.

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01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 1: You love the ball games that really feel it as

1121
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 1: cigars come on? Absolutely, just beer, canned beer, Oh, the

1122
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 1: big old beers. I love those. Those are so amazing.

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01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 1: You know. I actually just went to Chicago to do

1124
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 1: a show last last month. I was touring with the show,

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Speaker 1: and I stayed in a hotel that was across the

1126
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:33,479
Speaker 1: street from Wrigley Field. And there is that little boy

1127
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 1: in me that like had a sports dad that was

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01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 1: like this is dark. Yeah, yeah, come on now, I

1129
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 1: mean it really is. It's like those things are like

1130
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 1: landmarks like Fenway Park Wrigley feel like these are just

1131
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 1: like a two minute walk or a minute walk from there.

1132
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 1: As boys town, yes, talk about balls, talking about you

1133
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 1: beat me to it. Let me tell you something. I'm younger,

1134
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 1: I'm quicker, and I'm coming up right behind you. Stupid bitch.

1135
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 1: You shouldn't never have emboldened me. Oh but guys, I

1136
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 1: can feel are wrapping up because I'm gay and sensitive.

1137
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 1: Uh no, no, no, no, we have to do I

1138
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey, we don't think. Honey, what's that

1139
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 1: you're you're such a what you weren't you weren't briefed.

1140
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 1: We have a big segment coming up. It's called I

1141
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey, it's the whole thing. Oh, do it,

1142
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 1: let's do it. I don't know what it is. Wait,

1143
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 1: why are you saying you were sensitive? No? Because I

1144
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 1: wanted to mention hypochondriactor. Oh wait, we would. We gotta

1145
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 1: mentioned hYP hypocondriactor. Tell talk to me about it. Wendesdays. Thanks.

1146
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 1: What's it called? Yeah, you have to Okay, overachiever? Okay,

1147
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 1: So he's a television I climbed that too, podcast hypocontractor.

1148
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 1: I do it with my friend Dr Pereca Wally, who's

1149
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 1: a stand up commedian and a certified doctor, like a

1150
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 1: incredible doctor, and she U. Because I'm obsessed with medical stuff,

1151
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 1: always have been. I would say, name a part of

1152
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 1: my body, anything on me, I have a story about it,

1153
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 1: except for my gall bladder and that was fine, But

1154
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 1: anything on my body, yeah, you can say. And it's

1155
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 1: a problematic one for so many people. Yeah. Right, But

1156
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 1: I love, love, love medical stories. So I asked David

1157
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 1: Leonherman once. I was like, you know, what do you

1158
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 1: what do you like talking about? So I can whenever

1159
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 1: I come And He's like, oh my god, always medical

1160
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 1: stories and me too for you specifically loves medical stories.

1161
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 1: H yeah, for sure. So I was I'm obsessed. So

1162
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 1: I was like, let's just start a podcast called I'm

1163
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 1: an actor was a hypochondriac, Let's call a hypochondractor and so, uh,

1164
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 1: we have guests come on and they talk about their

1165
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 1: medical issues and uh, it's it's just fantastic and we

1166
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 1: get to break it down and make fun of it

1167
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 1: and then be serious about it. Has have you guys

1168
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 1: talked about shingles yet? Yeah? Of course you got my

1169
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 1: single side. Don't get me started. What's your most iconic

1170
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 1: medical issue you've ever had? Ready for this, you buck.

1171
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 1: I woke up in two thousand seventeen, three days before

1172
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 1: the premiere of the reboot of Will and Grace. I

1173
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 1: think it's to my seventeen, and I was like, in

1174
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 1: three and three o'clock in the morning, I was like,

1175
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 1: oh my god, my stomach hurts. Oh my god, my

1176
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 1: stock ds so bad. What is that? I'll just go

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01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 1: back to sleep. Oh my god, first I thought, I

1178
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 1: thought what I thought? It was my fucking small intestine

1179
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 1: burst open and I had to have emergency surgery almost

1180
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 1: sucking died and shout where to God? They went in

1181
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 1: there they cut it out and they taped it back together.

1182
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 1: And I went on dr Oz to talk about it.

1183
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 1: You fuck, and I said, and I dr Oz goes.

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01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 1: In all my experience, I've never heard this happening, because

1185
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 1: usually it happens in like the lower the large intestine,

1186
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 1: or the bowel, or the stock or the calling or whatever,

1187
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 1: but never in the small intestint right next to your stomach.

1188
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 1: So it was it was crazy. I could go about

1189
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 1: the whole. My god, that is yes. And then I

1190
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 1: took uh, can I stay the name of the drug?

1191
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 1: Say the name of every drug you've ever take? Stuff?

1192
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 1: I took oxy cotton. They put it on me for pain,

1193
01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 1: for pain. I was like, not gonna work. I'm too

1194
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 1: sensitive to all jugs. I hate drugs. I'm not that

1195
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 1: it's not gonna work. And they loved it. Let me

1196
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 1: tell you something. Yeah, no, no, I hated it. This

1197
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 1: is what's so fucking crazy is it fucking takes the

1198
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 1: pain away? Like I have no pain. I never knew.

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01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 1: I didn't think it was gonna work, and it worked,

1200
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 1: but you know what it does put me in a dark, dark,

1201
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 1: dark dark hole depression. Mass. I was like, I get

1202
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 1: you off this stuff. It's horrible. It's horrible, it really

1203
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 1: I've been on it a couple of times and it's

1204
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:31,440
Speaker 1: it's crazy, the worst. It's the worst drug ever. Like

1205
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 1: the second time I had to get my I had

1206
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:38,120
Speaker 1: a surgery on my nose and um, Like, my mom

1207
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 1: was like the second you don't need these, we're throwing

1208
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 1: them away. And I was like, I was like why,

1209
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 1: and she's like, because you're gonna get addicted to them.

1210
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 1: And then you put yourself in the face. You're like,

1211
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 1: oh it's still broken. I need them. Wait but wait

1212
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 1: a minute, I but really quick and then we can

1213
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 1: move on. I'm sorry. But the other thing this just

1214
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 1: happened to me last week. I had a call in uscopy.

1215
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 1: You guys, when you hit so you go underwrite to

1216
01:04:57,960 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 1: stick a camera. If you're asking this, I'm like, smiling

1217
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 1: maton camera. They stick it up there and right before

1218
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 1: you know, you go under, right, and um, I said

1219
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 1: right before I went under, I said, uh, whatever you

1220
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 1: do in touch my asshole? But come on. Uh so

1221
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 1: I went like I was sorry they were giving it

1222
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 1: to me, and I go, I'm really sensitive. Can you

1223
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 1: give me the probe fall or whatever that's not gonna

1224
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 1: be out? Like sure? And the body started shaking. That's

1225
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 1: a whole of this story because that was my reaction

1226
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 1: to the drug. And he's like, can you just try

1227
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 1: to relax? And I was like, yeah, I'm trying, but

1228
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 1: you know, it's just my reaction to the drug. And

1229
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 1: then the nurse goes, what did you think? And I

1230
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 1: go about what? And she goes about what just happened

1231
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 1: about the procedure. I go what, yeah you? I go,

1232
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 1: are you telling me you already did it? And she

1233
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 1: goes yeah. I go how long was I out? And

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01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 1: she goes twenty minutes? I go twenty minutes? This is

1235
01:05:56,800 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 1: like fucking alien probe your time travel? Yeah, that's your

1236
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 1: time travel. It's crazy. Yeah, just crazy. Contractor every Wednesday,

1237
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 1: let's start. Okay, listen the podcast king listen to both

1238
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 1: smart Less on Mondays. Even though they really don't need

1239
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 1: more numbers to be honest with you. I feel like

1240
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 1: enough people listen, but were they got one? Dre and

1241
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 1: Amazon Musclet whatever um and Hypochondriactors is on Wednesdays, and

1242
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 1: that's you listen to that after you listen to Lost Culture. Okay, Culture,

1243
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 1: All right, let's go. This is I don't think so honey.

1244
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:47,440
Speaker 1: This is where we take one minute each to go

1245
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 1: off about something in culture to really have a polemic. Ready,

1246
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 1: So sean will each do one first, and then you'll

1247
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 1: you'll you'll you'll understand how and how it works. Okay,

1248
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 1: you say, I don't think so honey. Blank your your topic? Okay,

1249
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 1: So Matt, you want to go first? Okay, this is

1250
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 1: Matt Rogers. Don think so honey. As time starts now,

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Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. Jenny when of the Real

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01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 1: Housewives of Salt Lake City. Okay, let me tell you

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01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 1: something right now. You should have been fired because you

1254
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 1: were bad on the show. First of all, let's just

1255
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 1: get that out in the open. Is Jenny win good

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01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 1: on the show? I don't think, so, honey. Our storylines fake?

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01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 1: I do think, so, honey. Is do we upon and

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01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 1: her grand scheme to like assume seem like a normal

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01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 1: nice person we want to empathize with. I do think so, honey.

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01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, Jenny Win. On top of

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01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:35,920
Speaker 1: all that, now these racist Facebook posts come out, cheering

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01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 1: on like the mowing down of like protesters, like this

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01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 1: is really really dark a pro Trump Q adjacent. Yeah,

1264
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 1: all of it, all of that. So we need to

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01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 1: say goodbye to Jenny when when? Now? She needs to

1266
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 1: go because the real house on the Salt Lake City

1267
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 1: is in a disarray right now. We don't know what

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01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:59,200
Speaker 1: our casting look like next year, but I know it

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01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 1: can't have Jenny and seconds Mary Cosby. Maybe we need

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01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:04,520
Speaker 1: you back. I don't know what to say, but the

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01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 1: answer is I don't. And that's one minute. Sehan. Do

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01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 1: you watch Salt Lake City? No, I don't watch that.

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01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 1: I don't watch the house. You don't do any housewives.

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01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 1: You would enjoy it, I think enjoy it. You would

1275
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:17,679
Speaker 1: love it. You know? You know who loves to jam

1276
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 1: about the housewives is Molly? Oh really Molly, Molly loves Housewives?

1277
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:24,640
Speaker 1: And Yang? Would you be ready with it? And I

1278
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 1: don't think so, Honny. If I said it was your time,

1279
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 1: I I would be. But also just the Jenny wine

1280
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 1: of it all like you said, deeply uncompelling reality show character.

1281
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 1: I was gonna say. I was gonna say, like, you know,

1282
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 1: she seems like a perfectly nice person, but now we

1283
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 1: know that is no longer true either. I mean whatever,

1284
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 1: let's just keep going. I mean, you can't be both.

1285
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:45,760
Speaker 1: You can't be boring as a housewife and bad as

1286
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:50,640
Speaker 1: a housewife and ineffective on television and also a like

1287
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 1: like it goes beyond racist. The posts were like abhorrent,

1288
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 1: they were they were really bad. It was like it

1289
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:02,839
Speaker 1: was like the crazy sis relative you have the person

1290
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 1: that influences them. That's how bad the Facebook posts were.

1291
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 1: So she's gotta absolutely go yeah, yeah, and that's going

1292
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:15,679
Speaker 1: to have to happen asap. And I will stress she's

1293
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 1: also bad on the show. She's bad TV. She's not

1294
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 1: even funny. When now when now? When she got to go? Now? Um,

1295
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 1: so this is Bowen yangs. I don't think so, honey,

1296
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 1: and his time starts now, I don't think so, honey.

1297
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 1: One word names titles for anything, movies, restaurants, people, even

1298
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to go to your restaurant called tough It.

1299
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:46,560
Speaker 1: I don't want to see your movie called Arrival. Arrival

1300
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 1: doesn't apply to all movies. Let's just say, but I

1301
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:54,599
Speaker 1: don't want to talk to you if your name is Greg, okay,

1302
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 1: better be Greg John, Gregg John, and then your last

1303
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 1: name is Jones. Seconds. I want more than one word

1304
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:06,720
Speaker 1: in every single name title of everything, because guess what,

1305
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 1: my brain can handle it, I promise you, and so

1306
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 1: can most people's. Okay, do not underestimate your audience. Let

1307
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:20,599
Speaker 1: them think just a little bit. Get the gray matter going, Oka, Beyonce,

1308
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 1: are you listening, Add the knolls back in, Add the knolls,

1309
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:26,599
Speaker 1: Carter back in. I promise you will remember you. If

1310
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 1: you're good, we'll remember Yeah. And that's one minute. Wow. True,

1311
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 1: it's so crazy how you were like, I don't want

1312
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 1: to see her one name moving and then I say

1313
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:41,639
Speaker 1: one film and it's sort of the thing. I swear

1314
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:43,679
Speaker 1: to God, this is this is the first. The first

1315
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 1: moment that I felt this was when Disney decided to

1316
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:51,120
Speaker 1: rename Rapunzel tangle. But that's not that's not a great

1317
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 1: example because punzel is also the one word. But oh no, Frozen.

1318
01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:56,720
Speaker 1: It was gonna be called the Snow Queen and then

1319
01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 1: they changed it to Frozen. I was like, No, don't

1320
01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 1: you know why they did that. It's a market things

1321
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:01,720
Speaker 1: so that they so that it could be marketed to

1322
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:05,000
Speaker 1: girls and boys. Yes, they didn't want that. Yes, I

1323
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:08,559
Speaker 1: know why people do this because it's it's easier to remember.

1324
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:11,639
Speaker 1: But I feel like we should start to move away

1325
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:14,439
Speaker 1: from that as a culture. You know. I I like

1326
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:16,519
Speaker 1: what you're saying. My personal favorite thing is when someone

1327
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 1: has three names. Absolutely, and that's to me, You're you're

1328
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 1: only it's gonna be that's gonna be my thing, not

1329
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 1: gonna think of something else, which is not what name

1330
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:34,840
Speaker 1: Patrick Sean Patrick hay very good. I really started. Okay,

1331
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:37,679
Speaker 1: Sean Patrick Hayes. This is this is Sean Patrick Hayes.

1332
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:39,519
Speaker 1: Is I don't think so, honey. As time starts now,

1333
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey, people with three names. That's

1334
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 1: first of all, it's too exhausting. I'm too I get

1335
01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:50,880
Speaker 1: to the end, I'm already sleeping. I'm not tiring. And

1336
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:53,560
Speaker 1: it's right, it's too much work. I think that it

1337
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 1: says something more about the person than the actual name.

1338
01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:58,320
Speaker 1: It says that you don't think you're good enough with

1339
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 1: just the two. Oh right, and you are. And I'm

1340
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 1: here to tell you. You are. There's no need for

1341
01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 1: the three. Nobody has time, nobody thinks you're better. You're

1342
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:10,760
Speaker 1: better than the other person with just two seconds, just

1343
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 1: more work. You better keep going. I don't need the time.

1344
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 1: He's still tired from saying all these three name names

1345
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:23,240
Speaker 1: for all these years. He doesn't want to finish the

1346
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 1: rest of it. I don't think so, honey. And and

1347
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 1: that's from someone who used to be called Sean Patrick Hayes. Listen,

1348
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 1: you used to go by San Patrick hay then when

1349
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:32,840
Speaker 1: I first started, and I was like, this is exhausting.

1350
01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 1: I think it's I'm not gonna say it rings nicely,

1351
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 1: it's very theater. I changed that Sean P. Hayes. And

1352
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:44,599
Speaker 1: then the middle initial is not is not a thing,

1353
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:46,960
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't know like there was because

1354
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:50,080
Speaker 1: there's so many Matt rogers is in SAG when I joined,

1355
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 1: and they were like, do you want to still be

1356
01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 1: Matt Rogers? You should change it? And I was like,

1357
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 1: I'm not changing Matt Rodgers. I am Matt Rogers. And

1358
01:12:56,920 --> 01:12:58,400
Speaker 1: they were like you sure you don't want to be

1359
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:00,680
Speaker 1: Matt are Rogers. And I'm like, listen to what you

1360
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 1: just said. What you just said, matt Are Rogers. No,

1361
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:07,880
Speaker 1: let me laughed out of this town. Although I have

1362
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 1: been doing this thing lately where I've been actually absent

1363
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 1: mindedly introducing myself as Matthew, which I like. I like

1364
01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:16,599
Speaker 1: that Matthew Rogers. You know who I think is doing

1365
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 1: it to prank us. Who Samuel L. Jackson. It's just

1366
01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:23,639
Speaker 1: it just it just doesn't doesn't roll off that Nobody

1367
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:27,599
Speaker 1: calls him that unless he's introduced as that on a time. Yeah,

1368
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 1: he's Sam Jackson, I think right like you probably know

1369
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 1: him Sam, Yeah, I do know him. He's such a

1370
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 1: nice guy. But does he do? Do you call him

1371
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:39,280
Speaker 1: Samuel L? I call him Sam Sam yea yeah, do

1372
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:43,639
Speaker 1: you ever call him Sammy? No? But my uh, one

1373
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 1: of my godsons is Sam Sammy? And I go, that's

1374
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 1: probably really a great thing to hear. Whenever he comes in,

1375
01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:56,800
Speaker 1: he because he just knows he's gonna just rolls his eyes. Yeah,

1376
01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:58,679
Speaker 1: you know this, actually you know who I'm realizing this

1377
01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:00,080
Speaker 1: this whole I don't think so how you just it

1378
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 1: is fully dragging and this is supposed to be an

1379
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:06,280
Speaker 1: episode celebrating her. Is my sister. His name is Chelsea

1380
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:10,720
Speaker 1: Ryan Rodgers her first name is Chelsea Ryan, which I

1381
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:15,720
Speaker 1: think is the chicest thing, and then she she hates it.

1382
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:19,679
Speaker 1: She's like, no, just Chelsea, and I'm like, Chelsea Ryan.

1383
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:24,200
Speaker 1: It's too It's like it's like it's like Mary Kate,

1384
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 1: like our beth Am. It's like Chelsea Ryan. Just never

1385
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 1: Sarah Jessica um Well, listen. Hypochondriactor is out on Wednesdays.

1386
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 1: Smart List is out on Mondays, which is two days

1387
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:43,360
Speaker 1: before that. Yeah, it sounds like a media diet to me. Thanks,

1388
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 1: thanks for the double lambs. Sorry god, sorry god, Listen.

1389
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 1: I would be remiss if I didn't say one more time.

1390
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 1: You really are the best, and it makes me so

1391
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 1: happy that you're you're in my life and you really did.

1392
01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 1: You gave me such a give there with that role

1393
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:02,800
Speaker 1: on Q for us, and I thank you for that.

1394
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 1: And you're just the best. And every time, every time

1395
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:08,879
Speaker 1: I hear from you, and I just can't believe my life. Likewise,

1396
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 1: I love you. I'm I'm rooting for you and I'm

1397
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 1: mooting from you Bowen and I love you, guys, So

1398
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 1: we love you. You're You're, You're You're true hero. I never,

1399
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:18,160
Speaker 1: I never, I don't really throw that word out. But

1400
01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:20,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you're really you really are, so thank you

1401
01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:23,599
Speaker 1: for joining us. Thank you guys. And we end every

1402
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:25,800
Speaker 1: episode of this podcast, Believe it or Not with a

1403
01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 1: song part noise Gallows Gallows, Um, what's the song? Bo

1404
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:43,360
Speaker 1: but you gotta have baby? Wow? It really is. It's

1405
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:48,720
Speaker 1: so like intense, so it's so toppy. Yeah, asking me

1406
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 1: to stay safe, please please please, that's um wow, but

1407
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:01,360
Speaker 1: that you would smoke it all right, fire right,