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Speaker 2: All alrighty, then it's Football Friday. Let's get it going.

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker here with you. One Bill's Live

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Speaker 2: one Steve Tasker, and we'll discuss that with further clarity

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Speaker 2: in short order. And we also have the one and

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Speaker 2: second hour of the show, to break down the x's

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Speaker 2: and o's for this very compelling Week one matchup between

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Speaker 2: the Bills and the Jets, and Steve I have to

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Speaker 2: say the line was two and a half. It's down

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Speaker 2: to one and a half last I checked, which means

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Speaker 2: people are expressing confidence in the Bills. That's where well

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Speaker 2: the money is going to some degree anyway.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know that this is the first also

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Speaker 3: first day in a long long time that we've got

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Speaker 3: a game to you know, talk about the next day.

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Speaker 3: Lions Chiefs last night. And I said this when we

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Speaker 3: met this morning, that Chiefs team lost that game last

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Speaker 3: night exactly the way the Bills lose most of the

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Speaker 3: games they lose. They did it to themselves and they

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Speaker 3: did it like at one point. That's exactly the way

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Speaker 3: the Bills look when they lose a football game. Got

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Speaker 3: to drop here. You know, there's like five plays in

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Speaker 3: that game that would have won it for him and

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Speaker 3: they all went the wrong way.

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Speaker 2: We know how much of a problem drop passes were

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Speaker 2: last year for the Bills. They were second in the

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Speaker 2: league and drop passes, I think Green Bay was the

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Speaker 2: only team that had more, and it was an issue.

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Speaker 2: And look, we don't want to be over reaction Friday

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Speaker 2: people after the one point lost to the Lions by

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs, but there were like seven drops in that game.

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Speaker 2: Not all of them were on the receivers. Patrick threw

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Speaker 2: some passes outside the body frame a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, some of them were behind.

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Speaker 2: But the one that went for a pick six, that

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Speaker 2: was right in Kadarius Tony's bread basket. Speaking of Kadarius Tony.

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Speaker 3: Steve, he's having a bad Friday.

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Speaker 2: He deleted his Twitter account because of all the blowback

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Speaker 2: he was getting for his performance in last night's game.

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Speaker 2: But when you skip all the training camp and most

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Speaker 2: of the preseason because you got a hangnail, I don't

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Speaker 2: know what you're expecting in Week one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, now that you know there was one too, the

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Speaker 3: one across the one that we just saw, the one

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Speaker 3: across the middle where they were meshing and the two

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Speaker 3: guys cross, I get that. That's a You didn't even

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Speaker 3: most neither of those guys even knew if they were

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Speaker 3: actually going to get the ball. Mahomes was looking for

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Speaker 3: Jones on that one and Tony ended up hitting him

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Speaker 3: couldn't turn around. You got to that's a pro that's

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Speaker 3: a catch approach should make. He was two.

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Speaker 2: Alone, Steve, and I'm just gonna say it.

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Speaker 3: It was bad.

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Speaker 2: There's a reason why the New York Giants traded Kadarius

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Speaker 2: Tony last year. We hear Sean McDermott talk about it

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Speaker 2: all the time. We want players with Bill's DNA. Joe

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Speaker 2: Shane comes from that mode of thinking. Kadarius Tony is

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Speaker 2: not Bill's DNA. The guy doesn't have great work habits,

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Speaker 2: will skip practice with injuries, injuries, and when things go wrong,

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Speaker 2: he's the first guy to drop his head yesterday, bad

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Speaker 2: attitude when things get tough. You can't win with those guys.

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Speaker 2: Pull out the Mike's singletary sound, but can't win with him,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he is.

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Speaker 2: He is not the answer in my estimation.

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Speaker 3: Obviously not. And that and I'll say this too. You

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Speaker 3: doesn't get half the targets he did. He got seven

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Speaker 3: that game's different. I'm telling you, man, that looks exactly

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Speaker 3: just like all three of them, just like him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they helped the opponent.

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Speaker 3: They played that game ten times, Chiefs win nine of them.

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Speaker 2: They also had three of two of their three best

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Speaker 2: that kind of speaks to some of the injury losses

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Speaker 2: going in without your best punchers. Yeah, so yeah, I

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Speaker 2: mean we can slic you get slice it the way

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs. Is it a catastrophic no? You know you

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Speaker 2: you would expect them to get their ducks in a row.

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Speaker 2: They got a long layoff here. Kelsey's probably back in

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Speaker 2: the next game in week two because they got a

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Speaker 2: ten day layoff until the next game. I didn't even

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Speaker 2: look to see who they have. Maybe it's a division game.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but it may not even matter. This

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Speaker 2: might be the thing that you know sets him straight.

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Speaker 2: But there is a law of diminishing returns here, Like

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Speaker 2: you can only subtract so many pieces and expect the

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Speaker 2: same results. Jacksonville, Okay, Jacksonville, that's a repeat of the

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Speaker 2: playoff game, their divisional playoff game, which was tight for

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Speaker 2: a good a good portion of that.

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Speaker 3: Guys, you will have a chip on their shoulder.

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Speaker 2: And you're going to their place. So yeah, that's that's juicy,

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Speaker 2: and it's an AFC conference game to boot.

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Speaker 3: Come on, Trevor. But I did so last night I'm

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Speaker 3: watching game. I had a party at the house. Watch

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Speaker 3: party at the house, so we had we were divvying

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Speaker 3: up our hockey tickets.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, your season tickets and neighbors.

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Speaker 3: Watching the game. So we're during we wait until halftime,

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Speaker 3: halftime comes, we start divving up the games. Right. I

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Speaker 3: completely miss every and I was sitting here this morning.

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Speaker 3: I had not heard and not had to come across

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Speaker 3: my timeline. I had no idea about the Joe Burrow contract.

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Speaker 2: He sided to know how you didn't see that?

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Speaker 3: I have and I still and it still doesn't popped up.

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Speaker 2: On my time. Will let me help you? I mean

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Speaker 2: five years I looked for two hundred and seventy five

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Speaker 3: Good for him.

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Speaker 2: You knew it was gonna be the next quarterback will

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Speaker 2: be the next a game, right right?

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Speaker 3: I mean this, there have been four record breaking contracts

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Speaker 3: It seemed like the owners know something about the cap

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Speaker 3: and where it's going. Yeah, maybe there's something on the

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Speaker 2: Not, because they're the Chiefs are still haggling with Chris Jones.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the I'm not going to farm another guy's ground.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying that maybe the way the Chiefs want

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Speaker 3: that was a guy directly helping the best guy on

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Speaker 3: just decided, well, if it worked once, will do it

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Speaker 3: they certainly I don't think they needed him. Last night.

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Speaker 3: They held the They held a really good offense to

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And I was on with Jeremy and Joe this

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Speaker 2: morning on wg R here in Buffalo talking about, you know,

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Speaker 2: last night and look, they did turn the page. They're

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Speaker 2: relying on sky Moore and rookie Rashi Rice and Kadarius

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Speaker 2: as much as I talk about the Bills coaching staff

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Speaker 2: good job of player development last year. On the defensive

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Speaker 2: same kind of development from guys like Rashi Rice and

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Speaker 3: Again, Spagnola is a good coordinator in Kansas City. And

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Speaker 3: and it's it's one game, come on. I mean, they

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Speaker 3: struggle like that. They and they probably won't in other

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Speaker 3: they did it to themselves and in large measure, and

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Speaker 3: that's what a lot of That's the same line you

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Speaker 3: just think that I don't know, this whole overreaction Friday

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Speaker 2: Well, right, And if you asked me to guess, I

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Speaker 2: to go oh for on third down conversions. They were

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Speaker 2: bit of anominally, a little bit of an anomaly. They

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Speaker 2: did it to themselves to a great degree, but they couldn't.

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Speaker 2: They got to brush up on the execution exit that they.

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Speaker 3: Get the NFC North this year. On what a year

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well you might be thinking differently after last night's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but they got the Bears, the Vikings, and you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's your least favorite division.

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Speaker 3: The Vikings are absolutely gonna They're coming down like the Hindenburg.

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Speaker 2: Well they're from last year. They were very very very

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Speaker 2: very fortunate last year, winning ten to one score games.

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Speaker 2: Advanced analytics people will tell you that doesn't happen every year.

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Speaker 2: They're going to come back to the mean, which means

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Speaker 2: if they're in some one score games, they'll be lucky

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Speaker 2: to win half of them.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: If they're in ten one score games again, they'll be

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Speaker 2: lucky to win five of them this year after winning

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Speaker 2: ten last year.

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Speaker 3: And if things come out and average out over course

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Speaker 3: of time, they're gonna win one out of ten.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's possible, certainly possible.

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Speaker 3: They could lose ten. We've seen that too, teams. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: But so that you know, the Chiefs are are gonna

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Speaker 2: Osteopathic Medicine, and it's pretty short. Micah Hyde listed today

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Speaker 5: Hey, good afternoon, guys. Man did last night? Just fire

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Speaker 5: me up ten times more for Monday. And I don't

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Speaker 5: The Bills have lived that whole second half. Josh Allen

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Speaker 5: But what does this just tell us about the draft?

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Speaker 5: It's weapons, weapons, weapons, That is what we need from

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Speaker 3: All right, Yeah he mentioned an asterisk. Mike Trico was

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Speaker 2: And because of no Kelsey, no Chris Jones, right.

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Speaker 3: No Kelsey, no Chris Jones. All that I'm and that

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Speaker 2: I mean, the fawning over the Chiefs on them broadcast

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of stuff going on like that. And

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Speaker 3: You show up and you play. So I'm kind of

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Speaker 2: Okay, weapons, weapons, weapons. I get what you're saying, Mark,

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Speaker 3: telling them that it's the best player or physical traits.

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Speaker 3: The Bills draft physical traits, So that's not gonna change.

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Speaker 3: That's not gonna change, particularly because of one Thursday Night

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go back to the phones. On an obl

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Speaker 6: Oh, thanks guys for having me on. I think the

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Speaker 2: What do you guys think, Yeah, they'll show you. They

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Speaker 2: I don't have to tell Bills fans that Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 3: How about it last night? What were you thinking last

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Speaker 2: But that did not happen.

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Speaker 3: What's the I get it? And he put that. He

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Speaker 3: Inside their twenty. Dude, woo, it's unbelievable. So they get it.

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Speaker 3: Hey man, he did it and it worked well. It

436
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Speaker 3: didn't work well. It was in the end it worked

437
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Speaker 3: out a season, didn't particularly.

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Speaker 2: Just barely back to the phones and to John and Amherst.

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Speaker 2: What do you offer us, John?

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Speaker 7: Yes, good afternoon. I'm wondering how serious clubs are about

441
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Speaker 7: collecting fines when a player holds out, they come back,

442
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Speaker 7: they really actually pay the fines. If I were a player,

443
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Speaker 7: I'd say, yeah, I'll come back, and I'm certainly not

444
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Speaker 7: going to pay for the fines. That's my first question.

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Speaker 7: The second is I'm a little worried Monday about We're

446
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Speaker 7: a good team, where as good as anybody, but I'm

447
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Speaker 7: worried about being out coached. I wonder if our offensive

448
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Speaker 7: coordinator really can use the players he has to the utmost.

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Speaker 8: Of their ability. I know there's a third rank last year,

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Speaker 8: but what were the people we got. I think we

451
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Speaker 8: can do better. And of course, at the end of

452
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Speaker 8: the game, ball and a ball and say I gotta

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Speaker 8: do better. But I do worry about the coaching more

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Speaker 8: than anything. We've got really good players.

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Speaker 3: Thanks you all right, John, Well, you gotta worry about something,

456
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Speaker 3: I guess, but I'm not worried about Ken Dorsey neither.

457
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Speaker 3: I'm not worried about Sean McDermott at all. What can

458
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Speaker 3: I say. I trust those guys to do it. And

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Speaker 3: as far as the finds go, yeah, the players do

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Speaker 3: pay those fines because they don't pay them to the

461
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Speaker 3: like Chris Jones is not paying the fine to the

462
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Speaker 3: Kansas City Chiefs. It goes to the league and the

463
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Speaker 3: league collects. Yep, the league collects, and what happens is

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Speaker 3: the way they pay those fines the way I understand it,

465
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Speaker 3: the way it was when I was playing. They just

466
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Speaker 3: they don't get paid until the finds paid. They keep them.

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Speaker 3: All the money they would have made goes right to

468
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Speaker 3: the right to the league. Right, every paycheck every Monday

469
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Speaker 3: is going right to the league, and it goes right

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Speaker 3: into their pocket.

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Speaker 2: So if and when Chris Jones gets his new contract,

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Speaker 2: the first two million plus is going to the league. Yeah,

473
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Speaker 2: because that's where it's at right now.

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Speaker 3: He will play if he comes back at week eight

475
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Speaker 3: or week ten, whatever it was. He said, he'll play

476
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Speaker 3: this season virtually for free, comparatively speaking for a fraction

477
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Speaker 3: of his twenty million dollars that he was on schedule

478
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Speaker 3: to make.

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Speaker 2: We go to Mike in Blaisdell next, What do you

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Speaker 2: got for us? Mike?

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Speaker 9: Hey?

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Speaker 10: How you doing?

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Speaker 11: Guys?

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Speaker 3: Good?

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Speaker 10: Hey, I've been I've been preaching this for the last month.

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Speaker 10: The Kansas City Chiefs are not as good as everybody

487
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Speaker 10: is saying that they are. I've been saying it for

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Speaker 10: a month. I think Patrick Mahomes, although everybody thinks that

489
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Speaker 10: he is the next coming, I believe he is an

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Speaker 10: average quarterback without listen, without the talent that is out there,

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Speaker 10: Travis Kelsey makes him who he is. It's a fact.

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Speaker 2: I tend to think it's the other way around.

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Speaker 10: Brady made Ballipchack who he is. I'll hang up and

494
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Speaker 10: listen to your call.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, thanks, Mike. I respectfully disagree. I think it's

496
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Speaker 2: the other way around. Patrick Mahomes makes Kelsey who he is.

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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes raises the level of the players around him.

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Speaker 2: I mean, before last night, had you ever heard of

499
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Speaker 2: Noah Gray? How productive did he look last night? I mean,

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Speaker 2: he doesn't have yards after catchability, but he was productive.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Mahomes is running all over the place. He's

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Speaker 2: making plays with his feet, he's buying time throwing touchdown passes.

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Speaker 2: I mean, to call him an average quarterback to me

504
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Speaker 2: is kind of ridiculous. I mean, it's it's like cutting

505
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Speaker 2: off your nose despite your face. It couldn't be more obvious.

506
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,239
Speaker 2: It's right in front of all of us. Everyone sees it.

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Speaker 2: He might be the best player in football.

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Speaker 3: I get what you're saying. You get tired of hearing

509
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Speaker 3: about it, and it's easy. And there was a handful

510
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Speaker 3: of throws last night that weren't good. But there's this

511
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Speaker 3: one down the middle, you know, to Marquees Valdez Scantling

512
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Speaker 3: that is on the money. He made a bunch of

513
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Speaker 3: throws last night that were fantastic, bunch of decisions that

514
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Speaker 3: were fantastic. I think it's somewhere in the middle, certainly.

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Speaker 3: You know, Chris Collinsworth will tell you Pat Mahomes is

516
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Speaker 3: the gift, and other people like you, Mike will tell

517
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Speaker 3: you he's just an average guy. He's not even that

518
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Speaker 3: good as the guys around him to make him. It's

519
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Speaker 3: Andy Reid that makes him so special. And I think

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Speaker 3: it's probably somewhere in between. He is a very good quarterback.

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Speaker 2: You want to talk about the Andy Reid Patrick Mahomes

522
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Speaker 2: symbiotic relationship, I will listen to that. I think d

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Speaker 2: Reid can raise Patrick mahomes level of execution by his

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Speaker 2: scheme and play calling design. I will listen to that.

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Speaker 2: But don't tell me Travis Kelsey is the reason that

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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes is good good, No question, is a great player,

527
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Speaker 2: but a great play.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, no, I do not agree with you. I guess, Mike,

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Speaker 3: I think Pat's a really good quarterback. You don't. I

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Speaker 3: don't think you fool everybody and become a two time

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Speaker 3: MVP and a three time Super Bowl participant, a two

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Speaker 3: time super Bowl champion because you're average.

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Speaker 6: So.

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Speaker 3: Okay or below average?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're off and running. That's part of overreaction Friday too. Well,

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Speaker 2: everybody wants to kick dirt on the Chiefs and think

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Speaker 2: they're time.

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Speaker 3: Travis Kelcey on their team. I mean, they're gonna be

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Speaker 3: all right, listen, that's that's the boat that the Bills

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00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 3: have been in for a minute, right. They lost Vaughn,

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Speaker 3: they lost Micah that you know, all these guys are hurting,

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Speaker 3: they're dragging around injuries, they can't get around, they can't

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Speaker 3: play to their level, and they're losing three games all

544
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Speaker 3: season by a total of eight points. And everybody's like,

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Speaker 3: and after all that, everybody kicks dirt on them. They're terrible.

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Speaker 3: Nobody thinks they can do anything this year. That's where

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Speaker 3: the Bills are. That's where the Chiefs are today. I

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Speaker 3: mean is take a breath and know that the Chiefs

549
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Speaker 3: are going to roll a lot of teams this year,

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Speaker 3: a lot of teams. They may have a better record

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Speaker 3: this year than they did last year, let me what

552
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Speaker 3: were they last year? They may be exactly that or

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Speaker 3: better this year with a loss a one point loss

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Speaker 3: to the Lions. Don't the Chiefs aren't going anywhere. Just

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Speaker 3: calm down.

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Speaker 2: We take a break here, but when we come back,

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Speaker 2: more of your phone calls Kevin and Hamburg Doc and

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Speaker 2: Williamsville Hank Tight. We'll get to you here on an

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Speaker 2: what do you got for us?

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Speaker 1: Kevin, Hey, you guys, and Bank for taking my Cally.

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Speaker 1: The only thing I worry about in this game, and

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Speaker 1: it's not so much Aaron Rodgers, is you know sometimes

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Speaker 1: the teams have always struggled against other places, against no

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Speaker 1: matter who the quarterback, whether it be as good as

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Speaker 1: Allen or stinky like Joe Schmo that We've always struggled

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Speaker 1: with the Jets in Jersey and Steve, you can harken

580
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: back to this, back in your heyday with jimm and them.

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Speaker 1: You could beat the Jets up here and then go

582
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Speaker 1: down there and wet down your leg. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: just we've always struggled against them. I mean, it's no

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Speaker 1: big deals. Some teams do struggle against certain places. But

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Speaker 1: I'll never forget that. Josh. Remember in twenty seventeen, before

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Speaker 1: we got Josh, Josh mcnow we played the Jets on

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Speaker 1: a Thursday night game. We went down there. Our offense

588
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: wasn't bad, but our defense couldn't stop Josh mc now

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Speaker 1: in anymore than if he was Dan Marino in his heyday.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you might you might have something there. It's a

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Speaker 3: road game, so you know, it's gonna be more difficult,

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Speaker 3: and and the games that stand out are the ones.

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Speaker 3: You're right, The games that stand out in New York

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Speaker 3: are the ones you win. And we want to we

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Speaker 3: want an October game back there in like eighty eight

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Speaker 3: or eighty nine or something. It was the painters had

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Speaker 3: game where the guys were lighting things on fire. Then

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Speaker 3: there's the Matt the Member of the Matt Barkley game

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Speaker 3: where he pops in off the bus and go and

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Speaker 3: hung forty one on those guys. So those are kind

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Speaker 3: of the memorable games you miss. Then there's you know,

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Speaker 3: there's also a night and I don't think it was

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Speaker 3: that might have been that same Monday night game in

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Speaker 3: October where Bruce got like four sacks Ken O'Brien and

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Speaker 3: Ken O'Brien pardon me, well, I snicker, but you know,

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Speaker 3: against poor Trevor Madtitch. So yeah, maybe it's a road game.

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Speaker 3: It's hard to win on the road, particularly in your division.

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Speaker 3: And maybe that's why you remember the games you wins,

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Speaker 3: because there's not that many of them and it is

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Speaker 3: more special when you do it. But I don't know,

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Speaker 3: I don't think this crew goes into New Jersey thinking, oh,

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Speaker 3: I don't know this is a tough place to play.

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Speaker 3: I think it isn't. I'll I'm probably well forget that

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say. It's not like known as a

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Speaker 3: place it's hard to win and play. But I'll tell

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Speaker 3: you what, it's gonna be hard to play there at

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Speaker 3: nine to eleven.

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Speaker 2: Let me make you feel a little bit better about

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Speaker 2: Monday Night. Okay. Josh Allen is eleven and three in

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Speaker 2: his career in prime time. It's the third highest winning

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Speaker 2: percentage among starting quarterbacks on Monday Night since nineteen sixty.

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Speaker 2: The only two guys with a better winning percentage in

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Speaker 2: prime time are Hall of Famer Steve Young and Hall

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Speaker 2: of Famer Lynn Dawson.

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Speaker 3: That's it, Lenny Dawson.

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Speaker 2: Len Dawson was fourteen and three in prime time. Steve

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Speaker 2: Young was twenty three and six. Josh Allen is eleven

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Speaker 2: and three. Oh By the way, he also has the

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Speaker 2: highest prime time passer rayading in league history since the merger.

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Speaker 2: Josh has a passer rating of one oh seven point six. Okay,

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Speaker 2: now that being said, Aaron Rodgers is second with the

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Speaker 2: passer rating of one oh six. But hopefully that makes

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Speaker 2: you feel better when the light shine brightest, Josh gets.

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Speaker 3: Juiced, your boys shows up.

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Speaker 2: Let's go back to the phones and to Doc in Williamsville.

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Speaker 2: What do you got for us?

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Speaker 3: Doc?

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Speaker 9: Good afternoon, gentlemen, afternoon. I agree. I agree with Steve

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Speaker 9: one hundred percent that it's a passing league. But I

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Speaker 9: want to show some statistics. The last drive of the

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Speaker 9: first drive, Firsteam Place drive with the last preceding game,

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Speaker 9: there were six runs and the seven passes we scored

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Speaker 9: on a run. My philosophy is, when you're ahead, you

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Speaker 9: run the ball. When you're behind, you pass the ball.

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Speaker 9: And I will say there's only one team, and I

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Speaker 9: agree with Task for one hundred percent. There's only one

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Speaker 9: team that can beat the Bills, and that's the Bills themselves.

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Speaker 9: We've been good enough the last three years. And I'll

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Speaker 9: let that go and you guys have a great day,

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Speaker 9: go built.

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Speaker 2: All right, Thanks, Doctor, appreciate the call.

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Speaker 3: A lot of this, A lot of the attention the

654
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 3: run game gets from callers like Doc or not like Doc,

655
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,919
Speaker 3: but other callers who say, we need to run the ball.

656
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,959
Speaker 3: Bet if we ran the ball better, everything can be better.

657
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 3: And here's where I think that stems from. You see

658
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 3: a team like the Detroit Lions put the game away

659
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Speaker 3: with the running game, and people just simply say, well,

660
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Speaker 3: why don't they You know, what are we doing? What

661
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 3: put the game away in the first quarter? Start running

662
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 3: the ball and it's it's not doesn't.

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Speaker 2: Work like that, especially when you're when the quarterback you're

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Speaker 2: going against is Aaron Rodgers, who can throw his team

665
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Speaker 2: back into the game no problem. Like if the Bills

666
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 2: are fortunate enough to get a fourteen point lead in

667
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 2: the game on Monday night, it ain't over because the

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Speaker 2: guy on the other side.

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Speaker 3: Got to You gotta get You don't change anything you

670
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,720
Speaker 3: do until you get up three scores seventeen points, right,

671
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 3: So if you can do that, then you can start

672
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 3: thinking about changing your play calls and shortening the game.

673
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 3: Because when you start getting out to three scores, that

674
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:13,280
Speaker 3: means six possessions, three for them to score and three

675
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 3: for you between them, So you can start thinking about

676
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 3: shortening the game. Six possessions is a lot of possessions,

677
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 3: particularly if each one takes five minutes off the game clock.

678
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 3: You do the math, you run out of game.

679
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 2: Twelve possession, you run out a game.

680
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Speaker 3: So if they've got to score three times to tie you.

681
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 3: That's six possessions between the two teams back and forth.

682
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 3: So then if your possessions, you start running the football

683
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Speaker 3: and shortening the game or the amount of time left

684
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Speaker 3: in the game for those six possessions to happen. You know,

685
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 3: you just That's exactly what the Bills did to the

686
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 3: Green Bay Packers last year and Aaron Rodgers. They strangled them.

687
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 3: Remember the Packers scored late, It's like, oh, now it's

688
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 3: only a ten point game. Well, but there's only three

689
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 3: minutes left.

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Speaker 2: They did it to the Patriots too, up on Monday

691
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 2: Night there last year.

692
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 3: That's the way the game went, the game out, and

693
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 3: it gives people the idea that while they ran the

694
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 3: ball and looked they won and it looked it was easy,

695
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 3: they didn't have a chance. We strangled them. Well okay, but.

696
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 2: The other thing to consider is you're playing against a

697
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 2: really good defensive front that doesn't give up much in

698
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 2: the run game, right and CJ. Mosley at one hundred

699
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 2: and fifty eight tackles last year, you got a first

700
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 2: team All Pro and Quinn Williams upfront along with some

701
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 2: other hosses don't give up much in the run.

702
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Speaker 3: Front and you get. So you get in there, you're

703
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 3: gonna run the game. You're gonna run the game out. Great,

704
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:41,240
Speaker 3: there's two forty left and they have three timeouts. First

705
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:45,240
Speaker 3: and Aaron Rodgers first Town First, first down, run stone

706
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 3: Wall time out. Now there's two thirty six left, second down,

707
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 3: run stone Wall timeout, two thirty three left, and it's

708
00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 3: third and twelve. Well, now what he and you know

709
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 3: now you're going to run the ball again.

710
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Speaker 2: And how likely are you to convert a third and twelve?

711
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 3: I mean, that's crazy, you know. So that's where you

712
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 3: get it's well and good when.

713
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 2: It's just not where the game is now you.

714
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 3: Why would? And there's another on the other side of

715
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 3: the coin. You get that, the the other side of

716
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 3: that argument, on the other end of the spectrum, and

717
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 3: saying listen, just keep throwing it. Yeah, you got that.

718
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,720
Speaker 3: You got a seventeen point lead by doing that. Keep

719
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 3: doing that and make it a thirty six thirty four

720
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 3: point lead. You know, don't stop doing what you're doing.

721
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Speaker 3: Just keep going. Boat race just yeah, boat racem And

722
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 3: of course then it happens is you get a tipped

723
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 3: intercepting tiped pick six like Kansas City did last night.

724
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Speaker 3: And all of a sudden, it's it's a different ballgame.

725
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Speaker 2: It's fourteen.

726
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 3: All yeah, there's risk, So yeah, you got you gotta

727
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 3: play the percentages. Run the ball when you need to

728
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 3: run the ball, when you can run the ball when

729
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 3: they don't expect you to run the ball. And then

730
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Speaker 3: if you're a really good football team like the Lions

731
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Speaker 3: were last night and the Chiefs were not up to it,

732
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Speaker 3: run the ball when you want to run the ball

733
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Speaker 3: at the end of the game and dare them to

734
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Speaker 3: stop you. And if they can't the game is over.

735
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 3: Then it looks like they should have run the ball game.

736
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 3: You know, it just didn't work like that.

737
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 2: Back to the phones and to Kramer and Amhurst. What

738
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 2: do you got for a Kramer?

739
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Speaker 12: Hey, how are you? How are you doing?

740
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 11: Steve Good?

741
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 13: You didn't didn't get the club met vacation over at

742
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:35,959
Speaker 13: that outdoor store in the Chicawaga What what was that?

743
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:38,720
Speaker 13: You didn't get the club met vacation?

744
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 12: I take it at the if they were giving out

745
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 12: at the outdoor store in Checkawaga. If you know what

746
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 12: I mean?

747
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 2: You see there, I did not get the club. What

748
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 2: are you calling about?

749
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 3: Though?

750
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 2: Kramer?

751
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 10: Did I?

752
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 1: Well?

753
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Speaker 14: I don't know.

754
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Speaker 12: I just think we're having we're having discussion about how

755
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 12: how Patrick Mahomes was a mediocre quarterback at BATS. I

756
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 12: disagree with that. I would have to say him and

757
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:11,399
Speaker 12: maybe Josh Allen are probably the ones that are only

758
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 12: the two quarterbacks in the NFL that could put the whole,

759
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 12: the whole offense on their shoulder, on their shoulders. So

760
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 12: like if so that they're getting nick these big you know,

761
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 12: mega million kinds of one hundred mega million contract, you know,

762
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,280
Speaker 12: big money and everything and day, they deserve every penny.

763
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Speaker 12: But yes, but if you're going to talk about a

764
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 12: quarterback that was more of a system quarterback who was

765
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Speaker 12: kind of and I guess you could say overrated per se,

766
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Speaker 12: would be like Tom Brady because if you ever watched like,

767
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Speaker 12: if you ever watched Tom Brady, like especially when he

768
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 12: was with Tampa Bay, you know, when his offensive line

769
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 12: was breaking down, he's you know, he's complaining. He'd be

770
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 12: get all you'd get all testing and everything, but you

771
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 12: would never see that in the player on like Mahomes

772
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Speaker 12: or like Allen, because if you ever noticed, like when

773
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Speaker 12: when Brady was playing, he was, you'd also he was no,

774
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 12: he was knowing toke a lot of pay cuts because

775
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 12: he knew that what made him look good. It wasn't

776
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 12: like the number of the touchdown passes or or whatever

777
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 12: he would begetting was more is more due to like

778
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 12: the team around him. So that's why he was getting

779
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 12: the pay cuts. So, yeah, you know you understand my point.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't, Cramer, I respectfully disagree. I I can't

781
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 2: stand Tom Brady for obvious reasons, but I'm an I'm

782
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 2: smart enough to know he's maybe one of the best

783
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 2: quarterbacks to ever play football. I think to call him

784
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Speaker 2: a system quarterback as an insult the guy. The guy

785
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 2: made people like Julian Edelman, Chris Hogan, who's the guy

786
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Speaker 2: I'm thinking of, Wes Welker, No, or even earlier in

787
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:56,439
Speaker 2: the in the genre of Patriots teams like Givens. Yeah,

788
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 2: Dion Branch. Dion Branch is out of the league two

789
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:05,720
Speaker 2: years after he left the Patriots. Tom Brady made players better.

790
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 2: Tom Brady made Bill Belichick a Hall of Fame coach.

791
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 2: He might have been the Hall of Fame anyway, but

792
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 2: Tom Brady minted Bill Belichick's bust in Campon. He minted

793
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 2: it for him. The guy won seven championships, and you

794
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 2: want to talk about when he went to Tampa Bay.

795
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 2: All the guy did was leading the league in passing

796
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 2: two of the three years he played there and threw

797
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 2: for five thousand yards. You're gonna call him average? I mean,

798
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 2: holy cow, man, what are we doing?

799
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Speaker 15: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: He's what is going on today? Patrick Mahomes is average?

801
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 2: Tom Brady's average in the system quarterback? We are off

802
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 2: the rails.

803
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Speaker 3: What the hell? It's the day after man, gotta overreact.

804
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 3: Let me tell you that if you're gonna call Tom

805
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,240
Speaker 3: Brady a system quarterback, the only way you could possibly

806
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 3: be right is if you know that he is the

807
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 3: system bro sleeve.

808
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 2: Look, I mean, as I said before, I can't stand

809
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 2: Tom Brady, can't stand him. But you gotta be smart

810
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:03,479
Speaker 2: and up to tip your hat and recognize greatness when

811
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Speaker 2: you see it. All right, we got to take a break.

812
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 2: When we come back, it's our new segment. I will

813
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 2: cool off and you know, have a selter or something.

814
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 2: I don't know where are these people coming from today?

815
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 2: This is outrageous.

816
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Speaker 3: Tom Brady's a system quarterback. In Mahomes's average, Well.

817
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Speaker 2: We'll take more of your phone calls with much trepidation.

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Speaker 2: from seasoned Sabers. Who is our winner this week? Do

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00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 2: you keep in contact with your old teammates and have

831
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Speaker 2: a group text going with them? And if so, what's

832
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 2: the name of the group text chat?

833
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 3: Well, I I put it in my phone. I don't know.

834
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Speaker 3: I guess it maybe show up on everybody else's. Yes,

835
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Speaker 3: I do keep in touch with him. I've got a

836
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Speaker 3: text s loop. I'm reading the names off Thurman, Thomas,

837
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Speaker 3: Bruce Smith, Jim Kelly, Darryl Talley, Cornelius Bennett, Chris H. Moore,

838
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 3: Chris Moore, and Will Woolford. Chris is in there with

839
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 3: a nickname.

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Speaker 14: So.

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Speaker 2: You pause, pause, there was a pregnant pause. And I

842
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Speaker 2: call it the Five We have to know what that

843
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Speaker 2: nickname is.

844
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Speaker 3: I call it the Five Presidents because I mean, if

845
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 3: there was a mount rushmore of Bill's players, the particular

846
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 3: guys I played with, that those guys would be on.

847
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 3: There's eight guys on there, but.

848
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Speaker 2: And three of them have their number retired.

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Speaker 3: Right, Three of those guys have their number retired, and

850
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 3: they're in the Hall of Fame, and you know, so

851
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 3: there's that. So that's yes, I do. And we were

852
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 3: very like in this day and age, as we all know,

853
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 3: it's different than our dads and our grandparents. Travels a

854
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 3: little bit more accessible for most people, and particularly for

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Speaker 3: that group of guys. And they were just back in

856
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 3: town for Jim Kelly's golf tournament. In fact, we see

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00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 3: each other often enough that it's like, if they come

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Speaker 3: to town, they don't have to call me. I'll see

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Speaker 3: him in the next time they come to town, that

860
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Speaker 3: kind of thing. So you know, they're in town for

861
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Speaker 3: Jim's tournament. Was the last time I see him. They'll

862
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 3: come in town for a multiple of games home games

863
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 3: this year for the team, particularly since all the primetime

864
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 3: games are on. They'll come in for the four to

865
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Speaker 3: twenty five games, those kind of things, and they'll stay

866
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Speaker 3: for a couple of days. So yeah, that group. Interestingly enough,

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Speaker 3: I've probably said this before. The Pittsburgh Steelers, the Steel

868
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Speaker 3: Curtain of the nineteen seventies, the guys that went to

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Speaker 3: four Super Bowls over six years, there were twenty two

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Speaker 3: players that were on all four of those teams. The

871
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Speaker 3: teams you know, they washed through the roster. And now

872
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Speaker 3: the four teams that went to the Super Bowl for

873
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 3: the Buffalo Bills in the nineties, there were twenty two players.

874
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Speaker 3: It's an interesting number, and I don't know what that

875
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Speaker 3: means if anything, but there were four twenty two guys

876
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Speaker 3: that went to all four of those Super Bowls with

877
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Speaker 3: the team, and there was kind of a turnover off

878
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Speaker 3: that much there was.

879
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Speaker 2: I did not know it was the same executive.

880
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't either. I read that somewhere. I didn't

881
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 3: research it. I read it and I took it for

882
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Speaker 3: a while.

883
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Speaker 2: Cool.

884
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Speaker 3: Somebody must have done that. So it's an interesting. And

885
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Speaker 3: I think it also speaks to from the seventies to

886
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 3: the mid early mid seventies to the early nineties that

887
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 3: the league had started to wash the rosters a little faster,

888
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 3: only twenty two guys over four years rather than twenty

889
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 3: two guys over six years of the seventies. And then

890
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 3: free agency came in and free agency canes. Yeah, and

891
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 3: now the rosters.

892
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Speaker 2: Turn over twenty five to thirty percent.

893
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 3: That's right, there's a big turnover in the rosters. So

894
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 3: long story to make a short point. Yes, those and

895
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Speaker 3: I think you'd find that that's not just true of

896
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 3: our team. I Troy Aikman, Immet Smith, Michael Irvin. You

897
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Speaker 3: know Dale Hellistre, a ton of guys from those Dallas teams,

898
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Speaker 3: Steve Young and all those his cronies from the Niners,

899
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Speaker 3: Joe Montana and those guys from the Niners. You go

900
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Speaker 3: down to all those the eighty five Bears, of course,

901
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 3: a group of guys and not just play teams that

902
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 3: won a lot of games. It's a it's an interesting

903
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 3: dynamic because what happens is when you're in when you're young,

904
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Speaker 3: and you're in shape, and you feel like you're indestructible,

905
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Speaker 3: and you're playing at a high level, making a lot

906
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 3: of money, doing a game that's a little dangerous. You

907
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 3: form some pretty strong bonds. So whether you win a

908
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 3: lot of games or not, the guys that you did

909
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 3: it with are were kind of special, so you kind

910
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 3: of care about them. And so yeah, that those guys,

911
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 3: I read you the names, and I actually just named

912
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Speaker 3: the thing. I've been calling it that for a long time,

913
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Speaker 3: but I just put the name on myself. So I

914
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Speaker 3: don't know if they'll even answer it now that I

915
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Speaker 3: changed the name of it.

916
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Speaker 2: Maybe not.

917
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Speaker 3: Who's this Jimoke?

918
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Speaker 2: So congrats to season sabers for winning the premium mystery

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Speaker 2: us when we return. It is that time of the week.

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Speaker 2: Senior producer from NFL Films, Greg co Sells set to

923
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Speaker 2: join us to dice up the x's and o's for

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00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 2: Bill's Jets on Monday Night football. Stay tuned.

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Speaker 15: This one Bills Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: Well, everybody, you know it's time for real regular season football.

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Speaker 2: When it's two o'clock on a Friday, and we welcome

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Speaker 2: in senior producer from NFL Films and co host of

929
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Speaker 2: ESPN's NFL Matchup Show, Greg Co south Back for another

930
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Speaker 2: season of dicing up game tape and drawing up x's

931
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Speaker 2: and o's for regular season football and Greg co sales.

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Speaker 2: Weekly segment is presented by Scott Lonyard, an official commercial

933
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Speaker 2: site work partner of the Buffalo Bills. Greg, good to

934
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 2: have you. How you doing. You like that graphic? We

935
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Speaker 2: got a graphic for you and everything. How about that?

936
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Speaker 11: I see, I see, and I'm really glad that you

937
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Speaker 11: got all dressed up for this segment.

938
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Speaker 3: Brownie, Oh yeah, you know.

939
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Speaker 2: It's uh, it's casual Friday for us, but jacking and

940
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Speaker 2: tye for you.

941
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Speaker 3: We have matching shirts. Go yeah, I'm freezing. We have

942
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Speaker 3: the air conditioner on in here and I'm freezing.

943
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Speaker 11: White shirt on. Brownie. You just got the T shirt.

944
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 2: Right, you know? Yeah, we're rocking it. I want to

945
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 2: begin here. Greg. Uh, you know we've got this Titanic

946
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 2: match up here on Monday night. Bill's Jets. You're gonna

947
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Speaker 2: have the fanfare of the season opener. Jets fans have

948
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Speaker 2: been whipped into a frenzy after the Rogers trade, and

949
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Speaker 2: then you have the added emotion and pageantry of you know,

950
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Speaker 2: the anniversary of nine to eleven, which is not gonna,

951
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 2: you know, go unrecognized. It's gonna be a big pregame

952
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 2: ceremony to boot, So motions will be flowing for sure,

953
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 2: and you roll all that into this game, and then

954
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 2: these guys got to play a division game no less

955
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Speaker 2: than Week one. My question to you is we we've

956
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Speaker 2: talked and you know, we've talked to you a lot

957
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 2: about this, the usage of twelve personnel, our suppositions, our

958
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 2: prognostications with first round pick Dalton Kinkaid now part of

959
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 2: the equation. I know they were running things pretty vanilla

960
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:31,320
Speaker 2: in the preseason, but twenty two percent of their snaps

961
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 2: in the preseason, we're out of twelve personnel, which is

962
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,879
Speaker 2: a sharp increase from what we saw last year, as

963
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 2: we know, when the Bills were last in the league

964
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 2: of three percent. So is that a barometer we can

965
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 2: use going into Week one here against the linebacking corps

966
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Speaker 2: that is okay in coverage but not great for the Jets.

967
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Speaker 11: Well, you know, I don't think we're saying any think

968
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 11: profound Roundy by saying that they didn't draft all In

969
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 11: Kincaid to play him eight snaps a game. So you know,

970
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 11: my guess is you're going to see a good amount

971
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Speaker 11: of twelve, and I imagine you'll see some eleven with

972
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 11: Kinkaid and not Knox because Kinkaid, well, Knox is very

973
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Speaker 11: good and I've always liked Knox. You might see that

974
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Speaker 11: as well. But both Knox and Kinkaid, and certainly Kinkaid

975
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Speaker 11: can detach from the formation. You know, most coaches start

976
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Speaker 11: off with the idea offensive coaches that let's see how

977
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Speaker 11: a defense reacts to our personnel. So if you line

978
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Speaker 11: up with twelve, what do the Jets do? Do they

979
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Speaker 11: stay in in their base defensive personnel or do they

980
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 11: play nickel? That's step one, and then they work off

981
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Speaker 11: that and they try to figure out what that means

982
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 11: as far as what they want to do. But you know,

983
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Speaker 11: there's no question to me. And I loved Kincaid coming out,

984
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Speaker 11: absolutely loved him that you know he you know, you

985
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Speaker 11: get caught up in comparison. We all do, as you

986
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Speaker 11: guys know when you watch college players and everybody says, well,

987
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,359
Speaker 11: who does he remind you of? And you know that's

988
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 11: always hard. Sometimes something jumps right into your mind, other

989
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 11: times it doesn't. The only thing I would say is

990
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,720
Speaker 11: because of his ability to detach and be that single

991
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 11: receiver as well to the short side of the field,

992
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 11: the way he can be used stylistically is like a

993
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 11: Travis Kelcey. Now, obviously Kelsey's going to be a first

994
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 11: ballot Hall of Famer and kN Kaid hasn't played a

995
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 11: snap in a regular season game, but just in the

996
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 11: way the player can be deployed within the context of

997
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 11: your offense.

998
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's you got to do that though, I mean,

999
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:37,919
Speaker 3: you got to give people some context of what you're

1000
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,919
Speaker 3: looking at with this guy. And as ken Kaid takes

1001
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 3: the field, that's always the hope that you turn him

1002
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Speaker 3: into some guy who's like a first ballot Hall of Famer.

1003
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 3: You want to get guys with similar uses and well,

1004
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 3: you say similar uses, which means hugely diverse. As a

1005
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 3: tight end, I mean, that's the real question, right The

1006
00:53:56,280 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 3: question is whether you go twelve or eleven personnel, can

1007
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 3: you make the defense pay for their personnel choice to

1008
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 3: match you?

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Speaker 11: And the other factor is by the use of your formations,

1010
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 11: can you give Josh Allen more pre snap information so

1011
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 11: that he essentially can win the down, which doesn't mean

1012
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 11: the play is always going to be successful, but at

1013
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 11: least know what he's getting before the snap of the ball. Now,

1014
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 11: every once in a while, you know that doesn't work.

1015
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 11: Of course, defensive coaches they're pretty good in this league,

1016
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 11: and sometimes guys just you know, make a better play

1017
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 11: on defense. But you're trying to give your quarterback as

1018
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,800
Speaker 11: much information as possible before the snap of the ball

1019
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,399
Speaker 11: because as we all know, and Steve you know better

1020
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 11: than Brownie and I since we did not line up

1021
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 11: and play, you know that you know once the ball snap,

1022
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 11: things happen pretty fast.

1023
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,280
Speaker 2: I want to ask you Greg a second question about

1024
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 2: this second line of the Jets defense with the linebackers.

1025
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 2: Last night, we saw play action work very well for

1026
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 2: the Lions against the Chief seen getting those linebackers to bite.

1027
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 2: The Bills were middle of the pack in play action

1028
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 2: usage last year. I think they ranked seventeenth in the league,

1029
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 2: used it a little less than a quarter of the time.

1030
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Speaker 2: How effective could that tactic be against these Jets linebackers

1031
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,280
Speaker 2: based on the history and which you've seen them react

1032
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 2: to play action pass?

1033
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Speaker 11: Well, Brownie, there's really, there's two parts to play action.

1034
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Speaker 11: There's play action with your quarterback under center, and there's

1035
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,240
Speaker 11: play action with your quarterback and the gun. The Bills

1036
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 11: run play action predominantly with the quarterback and the gun,

1037
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Speaker 11: except for those plays which we see often where it's

1038
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 11: that quick bang play action you know, and they'll hit

1039
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:45,320
Speaker 11: digs on the quick slant, you know, and oftentimes Josh

1040
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 11: is under center there. But play action under center is

1041
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 11: not foundational to the Bills offense. Now again, that doesn't

1042
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 11: mean it won't be now we don't know. They haven't

1043
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 11: played a regular season game. The Lions, on the other hand,

1044
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 11: that is absolutely foundational to what the Lions do. If

1045
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 11: memory serves me correctly, Jared Goff had the most play

1046
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 11: action snaps from under center a year ago, so that's

1047
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 11: foundational to what they do. It was not foundational to

1048
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,399
Speaker 11: the Bills. And keep in mind, when you go play

1049
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 11: action with your quarterback under center, it takes longer to

1050
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:21,919
Speaker 11: get to the mesh point. So that means that linebackers,

1051
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 11: second level defenders, they have to wait a beat longer

1052
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,919
Speaker 11: to see what the play is. When it's shotgun play action,

1053
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:33,720
Speaker 11: it happens right away, so very often that doesn't necessarily

1054
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 11: have the same impact on second level defenders as play

1055
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 11: action with your quarterback under center.

1056
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Speaker 3: So when the Bills gead to New Jersey, they're going

1057
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,439
Speaker 3: to face a defense that gave them problems last year

1058
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 3: and also one that can really come at them in

1059
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 3: waves up front. So if you're just a fan watching

1060
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 3: at home, what is going to tell you what tactics

1061
00:56:56,080 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 3: are the Bills going to employ to come so that

1062
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 3: a defensive line that may overmatch them upfront.

1063
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Speaker 11: And it's interesting you say that, Steve, because last year,

1064
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 11: in each game, the Jets defensive approach was much the

1065
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 11: same Week nine and Week fourteen. The emphasis was on

1066
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 11: coverage more than pressure. In the second game they did

1067
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 11: rush five a little higher percentage, but not a high

1068
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 11: percentage at all. They were allied on that front four

1069
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 11: and they were alied on coverage, and again you would

1070
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 11: assume they'll play in a similar way. So now you

1071
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 11: know it comes down to your ability to execute against

1072
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 11: seven in coverage. So now it comes down to two things,

1073
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 11: protection and your route concepts, and you know clearly you

1074
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 11: have to be able to do that against this defense. Now,

1075
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 11: the other factor is the run game. We don't know

1076
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 11: what that's going to look like. Obviously, they signed Damien

1077
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 11: Harris and Latavius Murray. They expect James Cook to be

1078
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 11: a year better. They drafted Torrents the right guard, who

1079
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 11: is a powerful mauling type player. So the assumption is

1080
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Speaker 11: that the run game will be a little bit more

1081
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 11: foundational to what they do. But I think we all

1082
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 11: know that it's not going to They're not going to

1083
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 11: take Josh Allen out of the equation in any meaningful way.

1084
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 11: But I think they need to try to create some

1085
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,959
Speaker 11: kind of physical presence, so it's not just that jet

1086
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 11: front teeing off against an old line that is a

1087
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 11: little bit new and probably is a little bit of

1088
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 11: a work in progress.

1089
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 2: Greg, I know you'll look at everything when you're back

1090
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 2: in your office watching film of this on Tuesday morning,

1091
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 2: But on Monday night, when you're watching it on television,

1092
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 2: what matchup will be drawing your eye right out of

1093
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 2: the gate?

1094
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 11: Hmm, that's a great question. Well, first of all, I'm

1095
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 11: very curious to see if the Jets do exactly what

1096
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 11: they did a year ago in the secondary. You know,

1097
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 11: everybody is under the assumption unless you watch tape that

1098
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 11: Sauce Gardner matches up to people he did not a

1099
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 11: year ago. He was the left corner and DJ Reid

1100
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 11: was the right corner, and dj Reid I actually had

1101
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 11: a very very good season as well. So my assumption

1102
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 11: would be, because their defense is very good, that they

1103
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 11: would continue to keep Sauce Gardner at left corner and

1104
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 11: Read at right corner, so he's not necessarily going to

1105
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 11: match up to Diggs. Although I can't remember which game

1106
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 11: it was, Was it the first game? It might have

1107
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 11: been the first game where he hit Digs for forty

1108
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 11: two yards. It might have been the first play of

1109
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 11: the game. Yes, I think that game Week nine. Yes,

1110
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 11: I think that was the first game of the season,

1111
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 11: the first matchup of the season, Week nine, where he

1112
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 11: hit him for forty two yards. But you know, I'm

1113
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 11: curious to see how the Jets play in the secondary

1114
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 11: and the other the thing that relates to that, because

1115
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 11: now with Kincaid, I'm curious to see how the Bills

1116
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 11: line up their receivers because I think you'll see more diversity,

1117
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 11: more variation in their receiver locations where guys line up,

1118
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 11: because Diggs can line up anywhere, Cad can line up anywhere.

1119
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 11: I think Davis can as well. You know who's the

1120
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 11: number three receiver right now?

1121
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 3: Right?

1122
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 11: Why?

1123
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 6: Now?

1124
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 2: Well the Surefield? Probably Surefield, but for all intents and purposes,

1125
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 2: it could be Kincaid.

1126
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1127
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 11: Yeah. And if Surefield's in there, he can line up

1128
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 11: anywhere as well, inside or outside. So you know, I'm

1129
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 11: curious to see how the Bills do that because, as

1130
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 11: I said, but personnel information are really the two things

1131
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 11: right away that you want to do offensively to see

1132
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 11: how the defense.

1133
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 3: Reacts, right, And so when you get into this game

1134
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 3: like this, what about Aaron Rodgers and this offense, I mean,

1135
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 3: everything's a question mark right now. Although now Nate Hackett

1136
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 3: back in the picture, they're going to run the probably

1137
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 3: the system that put the guy in the back to back,

1138
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 3: you know, MVP race. You got to think that the

1139
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 3: offense at least would resemble what they were doing in

1140
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 3: Green Bay when Rogers was so successful up there. It

1141
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 3: was only two years ago. What are your thoughts about

1142
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 3: how this jet offense will look with the specific weapons

1143
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 3: they've got rather than the Green Bay guys.

1144
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean they've got good weapons. You know. I

1145
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 11: love Garrett Wilson. I think he's a really really good receiver.

1146
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 11: I actually like their tight end a lot to Conklin.

1147
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 11: I think he's I think he's really good. You know,

1148
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 11: you know, the run the thing that I think the

1149
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 11: run game element, because in Green Bay that was something

1150
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 11: that was always kind of overlooked a little bit. So

1151
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 11: the run game element, I think is something that I

1152
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 11: think we're all waiting to see what that means. Because

1153
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 11: you know, they'll have Breis Hall, They'll have Dalvin Cook.

1154
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 11: How is that going to play out their offensive line

1155
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 11: would probably be the question mark as we start the season.

1156
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 11: But you know, when you're dealing with with Wilson Lazard,

1157
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 11: who's a really solid player and is obviously comfortable with

1158
01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 11: with Aaron Rodgers, it'll probably look very so similar to

1159
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 11: the green Bay green Bay offense. You know, it's hard

1160
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 11: to know exactly, you know, what Rogers is right now.

1161
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 11: And when I say that, I don't mean he's no good.

1162
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 11: But the tape last year I thought showed a couple

1163
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 11: of things. The main thing to me were his legs.

1164
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 11: You know, I don't think he moved quite as well.

1165
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 11: We'll see if that's, you know, an issue at all.

1166
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 11: I guess he had an injury last year that a

1167
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 11: lot of people talked about to his hand, his throwing hand,

1168
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 11: because he did miss some throws last year that you

1169
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 11: know you normally expect him to make routinely.

1170
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 2: Greg, what was the jet and I realized it was

1171
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 2: with a host of different quarterbacks last year for the Jets?

1172
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 2: What was the general approach by opposing defenses in covering

1173
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 2: Garrett Wilson? Because I'm anticipating a lot of one step

1174
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 2: now routes for him to get the ball in his

1175
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 2: hands as quickly as possible, and you can come up

1176
01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 2: and press and get in his face. But that comes

1177
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 2: with rick. You probably have to roll safety help over

1178
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 2: the top to protect your corner a little bit, knowing

1179
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 2: how dangerous Wilson is with the ball in his hands

1180
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 2: in just a couple of inches of space. What was

1181
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 2: the general approach in trying to neutralize Wilson by opposing

1182
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 2: defenses last year once he got up and running.

1183
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 11: Yeah, I can't remember every game, Brownie, but you know

1184
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 11: he was a rookie, and you know I don't recall,

1185
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 11: so I could be wrong. I don't think that defense

1186
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 11: is built their entire approach to take away Wilson the

1187
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 11: way you see with someone like Justin Jefferson or Devonte

1188
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 11: Adams where it's really clear that defensers are doing that.

1189
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 11: Now to my way, to my way of thinking based

1190
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 11: on watching the Bills defense, you know, and obviously Sean

1191
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 11: is going to be the coordinator this year, but I

1192
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 11: don't think that that's the way he normally plays, wouldn't

1193
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 11: you guys agree? I don't think he's necessarily going to

1194
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 11: think in terms of doubling or brackening him. I mean,

1195
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 11: if you see it, you'd see it rarely. I don't

1196
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 11: think that would be a foundational approach to how they

1197
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 11: go about it. So, you know, I think that they'll

1198
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 11: play their defense, hopefully play it correctly in terms of assignments.

1199
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 11: They'll mix man and z own. Maybe you'll see a

1200
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 11: little more pressure depending on how they feel about that

1201
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 11: in given situations. But I don't think they're gonna build

1202
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 11: a plan around Garrett Wilson. Now maybe I'll be wrong,

1203
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 11: but I don't.

1204
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 3: I don't see that have is there been a generalized

1205
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 3: way that you've seen over the course of Aaron's career

1206
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 3: that teams see him defensively, Like do you see every

1207
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 3: team or a lot of teams characteristically doing certain things

1208
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 3: against Aaron that they may not do or just because

1209
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 3: it's Aaron what he brings to the table with the

1210
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 3: Green Bay offense brought to the table, are there you.

1211
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 2: Know what I mean?

1212
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 3: Because the guys, the guy's a Hall of Fame and

1213
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 3: he played forever.

1214
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 11: Yeah, the guys. I mean, look, look, last year was

1215
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 11: it was, you know, his toughest year in a number

1216
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 11: of years. But the guy's really good, Steve, you know that.

1217
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 11: I mean, you're dealing with a guy whose delivery is

1218
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 11: incredibly compact. You know, it's the ball gets out. He's

1219
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 11: been throughout his career so precisely accurate with his ball location.

1220
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 11: Can throw the deep ball, you know, he can make

1221
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 11: every throw, can throw on the run. That's the one

1222
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 11: thing that I think that I'm curious to see if

1223
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 11: he can still do well because I thought, as I said,

1224
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 11: last year, I didn't think his legs were there the

1225
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 11: same way, which could be a function of age. And

1226
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 11: we'll have to see if it's a function of age.

1227
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 11: It's not going to get necessarily better, although could it

1228
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 11: be better week one or week two or week three.

1229
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 11: It could just because you haven't played it, you know,

1230
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 11: a lot of season yet, and he didn't play much

1231
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 11: in the preseason, but you know, I don't think there's

1232
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 11: one way to play against him. You know, someone said

1233
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 11: to me the other day, well, you know early in

1234
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 11: the season last year, you know Patrick Mahomes struggled a

1235
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 11: little bit with his own coverage. Well, you know, am

1236
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 11: I supposed to then say, well, just play zone and

1237
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 11: you shut down Patrick Mahomes. I mean, you know that

1238
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:00,040
Speaker 11: stuff gets a little crazy, you know. I mean, I

1239
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 11: don't think there's one way Steve that you know, you say, well,

1240
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 11: if we do this, we're going to stop Aaron Rodgers.

1241
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 11: All right.

1242
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 2: So, Greg, you mentioned Sean McDermott already and the fact

1243
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 2: that he is calling this defense. Now, if you had

1244
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 2: to hypothesize on how the Bills defense might look different

1245
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 2: with coach McDermott calling it as opposed to Leslie Frasier,

1246
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 2: what would be your hypothesis on that?

1247
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 11: Two things I would think. I would say, number one,

1248
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 11: I think the pressure percentage would be a little higher,

1249
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 11: And two, I think the variation in pressure concepts would increase.

1250
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 11: That would be my guess because you know, Sean came

1251
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 11: from the Jim Johnson School here in Philadelphia, and Jim

1252
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 11: Johnson was very well known to be one of the

1253
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 11: best pressure defensive coordinators in the league. And I guarantee

1254
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 11: that that Sean knows all that stuff really, really well.

1255
01:06:57,480 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 11: And my guess would be that that's what you would see.

1256
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 11: Now when I say pressure, everybody might immediately assume, oh, well,

1257
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 11: that's man coverage, and how do you feel about your corners?

1258
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 11: You don't have to play man coverage behind pressure. In fact,

1259
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 11: a lot of teams don't. Now there's a there's matchup elements.

1260
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 11: Obviously at some point you have to match routes, but

1261
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 11: it's not doesn't have to be pure man coverage. So

1262
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 11: those were two things Brownie, I think you could see.

1263
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 11: Will you see them against Aaron Rodgers maybe, but I

1264
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 11: think you will see that with Sean.

1265
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 3: What do you think the Bills are risking on on

1266
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 3: the defensive side of the ball by playing two linebackers

1267
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 3: that are light in the pans Milano who's a two

1268
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 3: thirty eight and maybe Terrell Terrell Bernard who's even lighter

1269
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:47,960
Speaker 3: than that, maybe less than two thirty. So is that

1270
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 3: dangerous in this day and age? And if in the NFL,

1271
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 3: or is it more normal than we might think.

1272
01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 11: Dangerous? Probably not dangerous. The question is what is the

1273
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:02,960
Speaker 11: opponent the opposing offense do? I mean the Jets, they

1274
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 11: do have a big old line. You know, it's a

1275
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 11: work in progress. You know, we'll Hackett believe that, Hey,

1276
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 11: we want to really come out and be physical and

1277
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:15,480
Speaker 11: really try to establish some kind of power football. I mean,

1278
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 11: we saw last night with Chris Jones out that the

1279
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 11: Lions clearly felt that they wanted to establish some physicality

1280
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 11: and run the ball between the tackles. And it's not

1281
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:26,559
Speaker 11: a matter of gaining one hundred and fifty yards because

1282
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:29,600
Speaker 11: Montgomery I think gained seventy seventy five yards, but he

1283
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 11: did carry twenty times and it allowed them to have

1284
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 11: some lengthy drives because it seemed like he was getting

1285
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 11: you know, three, four or five yards all the time.

1286
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 11: Do the Jets want to take that approach and make Milano,

1287
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 11: who's a great player, but obviously he's not a big

1288
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:46,919
Speaker 11: physical guy in a strict sense, and whether it's Bernard

1289
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:49,439
Speaker 11: whoever it may be, do they want to see how

1290
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:52,600
Speaker 11: they handle that. I think there'll be an element of

1291
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 11: that for sure, and then I think how the Bills

1292
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Speaker 11: play that will dictate how the game continues from a

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Speaker 11: Jets offensive standpoint.

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Speaker 2: Last one I've got for you, Greg concerns the increase

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01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 2: in three safety looks around the league. Hear, yeah, we

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Speaker 2: hear that the Jets may be doing some of that

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Speaker 2: with Adrian Amos, says the third safety on the field. Obviously,

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01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:20,720
Speaker 2: Taylor rap could be a factor in that equation for

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Speaker 2: the Bills if they choose to go that route, maybe

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Speaker 2: just explain some of the advantages that can provide to

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Speaker 2: a defense as a counter measure.

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Speaker 11: Well, normally teams do that. I shouldn't say normally because

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01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:39,080
Speaker 11: I'm sure they do it for many reasons, but a

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01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 11: lot of teams do that. Essentially, Brownie is their base defense. Now,

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01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 11: the Cowboys do that as their base defense. They play

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01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 11: three safeties. They hardly ever play with three linebackers. And

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Speaker 11: very often you do that because you get better matchups

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Speaker 11: on tight ends, because if you want to play some

1309
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 11: man coverage, you'd much rather have a safety matchup to

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Speaker 11: a tight end than a linebacker. So a lot of

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01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 11: teams do that. Could the Jets do that? They absolutely

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01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 11: could because obviously, if you know, could they go big

1313
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 11: nickel as I like to call it, big nickel meeting

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Speaker 11: three safeties? Could they do that versus twelve personnel. They

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01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 11: absolutely could because you still have a bigger body in position,

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01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 11: you know, to play the run game if need be,

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01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 11: but you also can then play the pass game ideally

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01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:24,679
Speaker 11: better because you're dealing with a you know, a player

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01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 11: who's used to playing in past coverage, so it's different.

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Speaker 11: That's become much bigger around the league. Not every team

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01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:33,639
Speaker 11: does it, but more and more teams do, for sure.

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Speaker 3: Greg, as always, it's great talking to you. Appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: We'll look for NFL Matchup on TV this weekend. Appreciate it.

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Speaker 11: Appreciate it, guys, thanks so much.

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Speaker 2: All right. That's Greg co Sale, senior producer from NFL Films,

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01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:49,479
Speaker 2: co host of ESPN's NFL Matchup Show. We forgot to

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Speaker 2: ask them, but I wouldn't be surprised if Bill's Jets

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01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:55,479
Speaker 2: is one of the featured games mentioned on the show's

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01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 2: episode this week. It's too big a matchup to almost

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01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:01,640
Speaker 2: not put on there. Well, I mean, you called it

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01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 2: the game of the week.

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Speaker 3: I think it is going to be a really good game.

1333
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:06,680
Speaker 3: I don't know if it'll be a you know, it's

1334
01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:08,120
Speaker 3: not going to be any closer than the one last

1335
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:11,880
Speaker 3: night that was a really good football game last night.

1336
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 3: But that's no division rivalry there. Those teams rarely meet

1337
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 3: and this one, yeah, this was personal to a lot

1338
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 3: of these guys and fans do.

1339
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:24,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got a little time here, So let's head

1340
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 2: back to the phones and to Laurie and Hamburg, who's

1341
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:30,639
Speaker 2: been waiting patiently. What do you got for us? Laurier

1342
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:31,519
Speaker 2: on One Bill's Life.

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01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:36,799
Speaker 14: Hi, Bernie and Steve. Yes, I'm calling about the question

1344
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:42,000
Speaker 14: you had yesterday. I have a problem, a little problem here.

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01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:42,679
Speaker 2: Okay.

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01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 14: My sister in laws throw on my niece of fiftieth

1347
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:52,800
Speaker 14: birthday party on the first of October.

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01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:54,559
Speaker 3: Oh boy, those game that day.

1349
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 2: I know where you're going.

1350
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:57,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, and.

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01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 14: What's the answer?

1352
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:05,720
Speaker 2: Okay, So this is a question for our football Relationship hotline.

1353
01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 2: You're a daylight, but that's okay. We're gonna answer your

1354
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 2: question anyway. So, Laurie, a lot of Bills fans run

1355
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 2: into this problem in the fall. You got relatives with

1356
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:17,599
Speaker 2: birthdays in the fall, somebody decides to schedule a birthday

1357
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 2: party at one pm on a Sunday. Uugh, But I

1358
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:23,719
Speaker 2: think this is I don't know, you tell me, Steve.

1359
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 2: I think this is the way you play it, you

1360
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 2: do kind of the pop in thing. You find the

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01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:35,599
Speaker 2: room at the party that has the television. Ideally it's

1362
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:40,840
Speaker 2: in the basement, because then then you can slip away undetected,

1363
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 2: and you know, you make conversation for ten or fifteen minutes.

1364
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:48,640
Speaker 2: Then you disappear for ten or fifteen minutes in the

1365
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 2: basement with the TV on and you're watching the game,

1366
01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 2: and then you kind of just set an alarm for

1367
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 2: yourself on your phone or on your watch, and you

1368
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:00,559
Speaker 2: pop back up. You make another apeia, so you keep

1369
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 2: up your appearances, but you catch enough of the game

1370
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:04,880
Speaker 2: where you don't feel like you're missing something.

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01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:07,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's one way around it. Another way around it

1372
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 3: is this way before. And I'm sure Laurie sounds like

1373
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 3: you've done this. You squawk as it loudly as appropriate,

1374
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:18,720
Speaker 3: and you're giving your family dynamic and I don't know

1375
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 3: what everybody's different, family's difference, but you make as big

1376
01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 3: a deal as you can about having this thing on

1377
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:25,519
Speaker 3: a day of a game, and say, what's gonna happen,

1378
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 3: where's the game going to be playing in the party?

1379
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:29,680
Speaker 3: And you squawk and you squawk and he squawk. You

1380
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 3: make him do it, and then you act like you

1381
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:33,640
Speaker 3: don't even care about the game on that day.

1382
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 2: So you squawk to almost force them to make accommodations, right,

1383
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:41,880
Speaker 2: and then when the accommodations are made, you pretend that

1384
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 2: you aren't even aware. Well you procommodation.

1385
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:47,840
Speaker 3: You pretend that the party is way more important than

1386
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 3: the game. And that's interesting, but you gotta you gotta

1387
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 3: let them know it's not okay to turn fifty on

1388
01:13:56,040 --> 01:14:01,360
Speaker 3: the day of a Bill's game. First of all, it's

1389
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:04,440
Speaker 3: not okay to do that. You got to make accommodations

1390
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 3: for the people in the fan because it's too big

1391
01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:08,960
Speaker 3: a deal. And you do that all we up until

1392
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 3: and then on the day of you never mentioned again.

1393
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:14,680
Speaker 3: You think that's you know, you whether they make appropriate

1394
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 3: arrangements or not. You don't want to turn somebody's fiftieth

1395
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 3: birthday into an argument. But like Brownie says, you, somehow,

1396
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:25,760
Speaker 3: some way the game should be on they and if

1397
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 3: they're adults, they should know.

1398
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, priorities are priorities.

1399
01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 3: Their fiftieth and fiftieth is different than the fifth, right,

1400
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's how I handle it. I make sure.

1401
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:43,280
Speaker 3: And then here's another way. So what you do is

1402
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 3: you squawk as appropriately as you can to the people

1403
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 3: who know that you need to squawk about it. And

1404
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:51,720
Speaker 3: then you make sure you have a friend in your

1405
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 3: life who's part of this whole group who will relay

1406
01:14:56,240 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 3: how upset. Not just you, but everybody.

1407
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:01,559
Speaker 2: Is someone to You need like a second, You need a.

1408
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:04,680
Speaker 3: Second, You need a second layer of squawking so that

1409
01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 3: they can make it a group problem.

1410
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 2: It sounds it sounds like a group problem that will

1411
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:14,440
Speaker 2: really compel the party hosts. Yes, there to make a combination.

1412
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 3: The family is the family is up in arms over this,

1413
01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 3: the timing of this party. You need to do something.

1414
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:22,839
Speaker 2: It's the Dolphins and the Bills.

1415
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:25,760
Speaker 3: Yeah you need Yeah, so that's how you do it.

1416
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:30,680
Speaker 3: And then so, being adults like they are, you'll accommodations

1417
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:31,479
Speaker 3: should be made.

1418
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:34,759
Speaker 2: Plant the seeds, plant and watch them grow.

1419
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:39,200
Speaker 3: Plant them, water them, cultivate them. That's and the amount

1420
01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 3: of that that happens is quite frankly, the amount of

1421
01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:44,000
Speaker 3: caring you have about the Bills game.

1422
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 2: Yes, so thank you for the call, Laurie, And we

1423
01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:49,640
Speaker 2: remind everybody that if in fact, you do have a

1424
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 2: football relationship issue this time of year, you can call

1425
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 2: us every Thursday on this show during the season from

1426
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:59,839
Speaker 2: one to three pm. With your problems, your dilemmas like Lori's,

1427
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 2: and we will do our best to provide you with

1428
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:06,240
Speaker 2: a suitable answer that gets you to your bills viewing

1429
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 2: habits appropriately. Because priorities are priorities during football season. Let's

1430
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:15,120
Speaker 2: be honest, we take a break here. When we come back,

1431
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:18,920
Speaker 2: we have to bring you Tailgate Friday. Yes it's a

1432
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:21,679
Speaker 2: road game, but maybe you're going what are you cooking

1433
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:23,920
Speaker 2: up in the MetLife parking lot? What do you cook

1434
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:26,240
Speaker 2: it up in your driveway at home? Because I've seen

1435
01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:29,519
Speaker 2: those neighborhood get togethers in my area. What do you

1436
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:31,200
Speaker 2: got on the grill? You let us know? Next here

1437
01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:38,679
Speaker 2: on one Bill's luck. All right, it's also that time

1438
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:43,719
Speaker 2: of the season for tailgates. People. Tailgate Friday presented by Himark,

1439
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:46,760
Speaker 2: Blue Cross, Blue Shield of Western New York, the official

1440
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:49,679
Speaker 2: healthcare plan of the Buffalo Bills. What do you got

1441
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 2: on the grill?

1442
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:51,600
Speaker 15: We need to know.

1443
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:56,120
Speaker 2: We'll be sure to send your recipes and plans into

1444
01:16:56,240 --> 01:16:58,800
Speaker 2: us every Friday during the season. We'll read them on

1445
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 2: the air and give some people that tailgate just like you.

1446
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:05,439
Speaker 2: Maybe some new fresh ideas for their own tailgates. Jack

1447
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:10,160
Speaker 2: chimes in with the following, Got the garage man cave

1448
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:14,759
Speaker 2: all set ice, cold beer, solid spirits, and the grill

1449
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:17,799
Speaker 2: is ready to rock. Some beer and brown sugar, sour

1450
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 2: kraut dogs and smoked kill bassa sodium content is gonna

1451
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 2: be up this weekend. Plus we'll have buffalo chicken meatballs

1452
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 2: and nachos with my homemade guacamole and peach hobbanaro salsa

1453
01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 2: from the garden. Steve is growing some hobbonaros himself.

1454
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:37,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got hotep.

1455
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:39,400
Speaker 2: Is it harvest time yet? How close are you.

1456
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:42,479
Speaker 3: It is this week? Actually start to make a thinking

1457
01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:45,800
Speaker 3: about bowl of chili or something. But yeah, they're they're ready.

1458
01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:50,439
Speaker 3: I gotta. I have four or five plants that go

1459
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:53,519
Speaker 3: in I always and they've been pretty fruitful, very nice,

1460
01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:54,719
Speaker 3: and it's been a very nice Harvey.

1461
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:58,599
Speaker 2: Peach hobbonnaro sauce sounds like an interesting Yin yang with

1462
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:01,840
Speaker 2: the sweet and heat. It's like sweet heat, you know

1463
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:06,760
Speaker 2: what I mean. It sounds it's delicious. From Jack. I

1464
01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 2: hope there's red onion in your guacamole. If you're a

1465
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:11,920
Speaker 2: self respecting guacamole maker. There has to be red onion

1466
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:12,760
Speaker 2: in that's all.

1467
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 3: Sour kraut dogs and smoke kill bosses.

1468
01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:20,160
Speaker 2: That intrigues me. I've never thought about brown sugar on

1469
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 2: a hot dog. I know it's gonna be mixed in

1470
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 2: with the sour krout, but that is an interesting topping

1471
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:28,519
Speaker 2: that I think I'm gonna have to try to try myself. Jack,

1472
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 2: I would like to know what the ratio is brown

1473
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:34,360
Speaker 2: sugar to krout though. That's what I wanna, you know,

1474
01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:37,479
Speaker 2: because you don't want to over sugar it and kind

1475
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:40,559
Speaker 2: of lose the saltiness of the dog. That's what makes

1476
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:42,600
Speaker 2: it so good. I'd be curious to know what the

1477
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 2: breakdown is there. Adam on Tailgate Friday says chicken, Cordon Blue,

1478
01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 2: vegetables and rice. Good lord, are you eating healthy?

1479
01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:53,040
Speaker 3: Adam?

1480
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 2: I mean, I know you got a slice of cheese

1481
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 2: melting inside the chicken, and there's a little ham in

1482
01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 2: there too, But all right, maybe you gotta eat healthy.

1483
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:04,719
Speaker 2: I guess I guess from the uh yeah calorie count

1484
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 2: Tailgate man, you there you go.

1485
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:08,320
Speaker 3: I'm I'm like, I'm a fan of chicken court on Blue.

1486
01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 3: I like that. Yeah, Vegetables not so much rice I'm

1487
01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:15,759
Speaker 3: not a fan of. But the chicken court on blue,

1488
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:16,479
Speaker 3: it's good.

1489
01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:17,559
Speaker 2: That's you don't see that.

1490
01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:21,439
Speaker 3: And you know what, I get this too. There's always this,

1491
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:23,439
Speaker 3: and we get this a lot on our on our

1492
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 3: tailgate Friday tweets sheets about their tailgates. People go like,

1493
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 3: there's like nine things on a menu. It's not like

1494
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:33,120
Speaker 3: they're nice cooking dogs and going to the game. You know.

1495
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:35,400
Speaker 2: They Oh, no, it's like a four course meal.

1496
01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:38,759
Speaker 3: And I like, and I think that's it's fun because

1497
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:44,360
Speaker 3: then you know, because it is a function of how

1498
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:46,840
Speaker 3: many different people you have at your party, too, you

1499
01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:50,720
Speaker 3: got something for everybody, right, Some some people can't stand sauerkraut,

1500
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:54,639
Speaker 3: whether it's got brown sugar in or not. But they'll

1501
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 3: eat a chicken meatball and the nachos and they'll they'll

1502
01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:00,840
Speaker 3: honk on those, right. But so it's nice because when

1503
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:03,599
Speaker 3: you get all those different things, there's always enough for everybody.

1504
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 3: You can have what you want and you don't have

1505
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 3: to have anything you don't want on a game day,

1506
01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 3: I feel you, yeah, but then you have the guy says, listen,

1507
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:16,880
Speaker 3: I'm hey, it's Cordon blue and vegetables and rice let's go. Yeah,

1508
01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:19,839
Speaker 3: it's either really simple, I guess my point really simple,

1509
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:25,320
Speaker 3: or it's it is the king of the Pharaoh of

1510
01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:31,120
Speaker 3: Egypt kind of feast like everything, exotic animals and everything. Yeah, crazy,

1511
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:32,880
Speaker 3: it's pretty It's pretty cool.

1512
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:35,479
Speaker 2: I do have to say that. I like. I like

1513
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 2: when people go all out all right, you know I

1514
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:38,639
Speaker 2: do too.

1515
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:41,760
Speaker 3: You can you can feel the commitment, you know what

1516
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:43,680
Speaker 3: I mean, They're just all about it.

1517
01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:49,280
Speaker 2: Uh. Next one here is from Faith who says, thinking

1518
01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:53,080
Speaker 2: homemade air friar wings twenty five minutes or four hundred

1519
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:58,880
Speaker 2: degrees chef's kiss sauced with Carolina gold and homemade French

1520
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:03,120
Speaker 2: bread pizzas. I am not a fancy gal, just keeping

1521
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 2: it simple. I got full blown respect for airfrer wings.

1522
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 2: My wife we just got an air fryer, probably a

1523
01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:10,880
Speaker 2: year or two ago, and my wife made wings in

1524
01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:12,679
Speaker 2: the air fryer. Do you want to know what's great

1525
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:15,320
Speaker 2: about the air fryer when it comes to making wings.

1526
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:17,960
Speaker 2: If you're the kind of person that likes a little

1527
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:21,640
Speaker 2: char and crispiness on your wings, I highly recommend the

1528
01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:23,800
Speaker 2: air fryer. I have heard highly recommend it.

1529
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:25,680
Speaker 3: I've heard nothing but good things about it. We have

1530
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:29,600
Speaker 3: not found one we've liked. We I'm not shopping for

1531
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:34,479
Speaker 3: this thing. The missus is, and she's asked people about it.

1532
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:36,080
Speaker 3: You know, you got to have it right. It's you

1533
01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:39,639
Speaker 3: have different shaped ones, yes, larger ones, smaller ones, right,

1534
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:41,599
Speaker 3: and some of them are vertical and some of them

1535
01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:44,599
Speaker 3: are flat and all that stuff. So she has yet

1536
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 3: to get the ones.

1537
01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 1: You.

1538
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:50,680
Speaker 3: Plus it's just her and me now it had well,

1539
01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:52,760
Speaker 3: they have the small ones and we had right. But

1540
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:54,479
Speaker 3: you got to get the right one in the right shape.

1541
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:57,160
Speaker 3: It used to be we're cooking for a platoon. Now

1542
01:21:57,200 --> 01:21:59,799
Speaker 3: it's just you know, a two man squad.

1543
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:06,920
Speaker 2: I will say. The part of Faith's tailgate items here

1544
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 2: that intrigued me was the Carolina gold sauce. So I

1545
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:16,280
Speaker 2: am a big fan of the Carolina barbecue sauce, which

1546
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:21,120
Speaker 2: usually has a mustard component to it, and it is

1547
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 2: vastly underrated. People talk about Texas barbecue, Memphis barbecue, barbecue.

1548
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:33,320
Speaker 2: I think the Carolina barbecue is vastly underrated, and it

1549
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:37,360
Speaker 2: is different in such a good and unique way that

1550
01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 2: if you haven't tried it before, look it up online

1551
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 2: whatever you gotta do for a recipe, because that mustard.

1552
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:48,880
Speaker 2: Component to the barbecue is it's next level. It's unique.

1553
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:51,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I get it too. It's not for everybody,

1554
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:58,559
Speaker 3: but because nothing, no food is for everybody. But it's yeah.

1555
01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:00,880
Speaker 3: I like that too. I love because it is a

1556
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:04,040
Speaker 3: regional thing, the South Carolina stuff, and you know they

1557
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:04,439
Speaker 3: claim it.

1558
01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:05,599
Speaker 2: North and South Carolina.

1559
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:06,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's good stuff.

1560
01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:09,559
Speaker 2: I do enjoy it, all right. So that is Tailgate Friday,

1561
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 2: presented by Himark, Blue Cross, Blue Shield, or Western New York,

1562
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:16,400
Speaker 2: the official healthcare plan of the Buffalo Bills. Let's zip

1563
01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 2: back to the phones here and go to Tony in

1564
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:20,120
Speaker 2: a car who's been waiting patiently? What do you got

1565
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:20,360
Speaker 2: for us?

1566
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:20,759
Speaker 12: Tony?

1567
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 4: Hey, guys beat today. Thanks for taking my golf. Sure,

1568
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 4: I just wanted to talk about what you guys were

1569
01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:29,439
Speaker 4: talking about before Great Coast Sut got on with you,

1570
01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 4: which is always I look so forward to that anyway.

1571
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 4: But there's one thing in common with every Super Bowl champion,

1572
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 4: let's say, even from Super Bowl twenty five till now,

1573
01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:44,800
Speaker 4: no matter if they were a prolific passing team or

1574
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:48,479
Speaker 4: a balanced team, they all could run the football when

1575
01:23:48,479 --> 01:23:51,400
Speaker 4: they needed to. Not to say that that's what you

1576
01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 4: come with first and I think why the Chiefs kind

1577
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:56,519
Speaker 4: of would edge us out because they could run the

1578
01:23:56,520 --> 01:23:59,679
Speaker 4: football just a little bit better than this team could

1579
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 4: up until now. And I don't want Josh Allen to

1580
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 4: be our leading rusher, you know. I think if we

1581
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:12,519
Speaker 4: could make him a mobile pocket passer, if the guy

1582
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:18,320
Speaker 4: plays another ten years easy. I remember that Patriot playoff game,

1583
01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:21,519
Speaker 4: and he played outstanding in that game. And if he

1584
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:24,680
Speaker 4: could just bottle that and take it with him the

1585
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 4: rest of the way where he wasn't looking to go

1586
01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:30,120
Speaker 4: fifteen yards down the field, he took what was open,

1587
01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:32,080
Speaker 4: and if nothing was there, he got rid of it.

1588
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:36,960
Speaker 4: And he just has never hit that level since. And

1589
01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:39,240
Speaker 4: I hang up and listen to what you guys got

1590
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:39,519
Speaker 4: to say.

1591
01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:43,320
Speaker 2: Yes, I will say, Tony, part of the reason that

1592
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:46,559
Speaker 2: the Bills looked so good in what many people call

1593
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:52,520
Speaker 2: the perfect game is because, and I noticed this right away,

1594
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:59,919
Speaker 2: the Patriots looked like a very tired, old and slow defense.

1595
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:04,240
Speaker 2: And Steve talks about this all the time. The margins

1596
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 2: in this league from a talent perspective are razor thin.

1597
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:11,920
Speaker 2: They were not on that day. The Patriots defense looked

1598
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:17,000
Speaker 2: exhausted and slow, like not a step slow like a

1599
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:20,680
Speaker 2: step and a half to two steps slow. And I

1600
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:27,400
Speaker 2: think it's because Belichick still employed the grinded out in

1601
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:33,240
Speaker 2: practice approach throughout the season. And we know that Sean

1602
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:37,840
Speaker 2: McDermott and his sports science staff are big on load

1603
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:41,640
Speaker 2: management and pulling somebody out of practice as a preventative

1604
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:44,760
Speaker 2: measure because their workload's been so heavy they've taken more

1605
01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:48,280
Speaker 2: snaps than expected in practice. We're scaling him back today,

1606
01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:51,360
Speaker 2: or he's not practicing at all today because it's more

1607
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:53,960
Speaker 2: important to have him ready in the game. And I

1608
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:56,720
Speaker 2: think if there's one area where the Patriots are a

1609
01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:59,160
Speaker 2: little behind, at least a couple of years ago, it

1610
01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:02,000
Speaker 2: was in that ara. I'm not taking anything away from

1611
01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:05,000
Speaker 2: the Bills. They played an outstanding football game, but the

1612
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:10,400
Speaker 2: lack of readiness and the slow pace to which the

1613
01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:15,400
Speaker 2: Patriots defense was playing in that game helped absolutely.

1614
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:22,320
Speaker 3: Yeah. And I'll say this, Yes, every Super Bowl team

1615
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:24,800
Speaker 3: had a running game and they run it when they

1616
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:26,519
Speaker 3: want to. And I'll tell you this, they also could

1617
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:28,200
Speaker 3: do this too. They could also throw it more than

1618
01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:31,920
Speaker 3: they run it. I mean they they also all had

1619
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 3: some form of a head coach. I mean that saying

1620
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:38,040
Speaker 3: they have a running game, and you can't treat that

1621
01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:41,439
Speaker 3: in a vacuum. Yeah, yes, they all had a running

1622
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:43,160
Speaker 3: they're all super Bowl champs. They had a lot more

1623
01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:45,840
Speaker 3: than just a running game. I mean, who knows that

1624
01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:48,920
Speaker 3: better than the Buffalo Bills franchise and its fans. There's

1625
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:51,519
Speaker 3: always something missing until you win the whole thing, or

1626
01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:54,040
Speaker 3: there's always something that's not as important as everything else

1627
01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 3: because you want it without it. Every team has flaws,

1628
01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:02,639
Speaker 3: every one of them, and game to game, sometimes those

1629
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:06,080
Speaker 3: flaws are exploited and sometimes they cost you the game.

1630
01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:11,080
Speaker 3: It's how you manage those your flaws and play to

1631
01:27:11,080 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 3: your strengths that allow you to win those games. And

1632
01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:16,320
Speaker 3: I'll say it, it's been a minute since I said it.

1633
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:19,960
Speaker 3: You got to play well on that day. It doesn't

1634
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:22,320
Speaker 3: matter how good your team is if you come out

1635
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:25,160
Speaker 3: and you're running back like last night, early in that game,

1636
01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:28,840
Speaker 3: and I believe that the Lions still scored on that

1637
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:33,599
Speaker 3: first position. I think on that first possession, they're shiny

1638
01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:36,200
Speaker 3: new running back busted bounced one of the outside and

1639
01:27:36,240 --> 01:27:38,800
Speaker 3: slipped and fell on a game that would have been

1640
01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:46,920
Speaker 3: a big gainer. So some that stuff happens, and there's

1641
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:52,959
Speaker 3: no magic wand in football, it's great players, great coaching,

1642
01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:58,000
Speaker 3: some luck and that's and that some mix of that

1643
01:27:59,240 --> 01:28:02,200
Speaker 3: is gonna get you win games, and you gotta but

1644
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:04,599
Speaker 3: you gotta play well in the game that ends your season.

1645
01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:08,080
Speaker 2: Break time for us. Steve and I close things up

1646
01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:10,679
Speaker 2: here on an obl fan Friday mail bag.

1647
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:24,879
Speaker 15: Next, all right, we're gonna wedgend.

1648
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:28,000
Speaker 2: A quick fan mail bag question from Brian. Discussion about

1649
01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:30,639
Speaker 2: Casey right tackle jumping a half beat before the snap

1650
01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:33,679
Speaker 2: has been well documented. My question is, after your peers

1651
01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:36,160
Speaker 2: to get set, he kept flexing or rocking on his

1652
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:38,760
Speaker 2: right leg. Isn't that a false star penalty? Steve, Yeah,

1653
01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:39,320
Speaker 2: it's both.

1654
01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 3: You're right. You're right. They got away with it. The

1655
01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:44,720
Speaker 3: guy kept getting away with it. The officials should have

1656
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:47,000
Speaker 3: called it early and stopped it. They didn't. I thought

1657
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:49,439
Speaker 3: the Chiefs got an advantage from it. Yeah. I thought

1658
01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 3: it was like I thought it was cheating.

1659
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:53,320
Speaker 2: With all the weapons the Bills have, how do you

1660
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:56,000
Speaker 2: keep all the offensive skill players happy? Asks Ed.

1661
01:28:56,920 --> 01:28:59,960
Speaker 3: It's simple, It's just not easy. The simple answer is this,

1662
01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:02,120
Speaker 3: if you win games, everybody's happy.

1663
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:07,519
Speaker 2: Yeah. Just win, baby, Just win man. A special birthday

1664
01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:10,519
Speaker 2: wish going out to my father in law who is

1665
01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:13,280
Speaker 2: eighty five years young. Sorry I can't make the party

1666
01:29:13,320 --> 01:29:14,920
Speaker 2: this weekend, but I'll be there in spirit.

1667
01:29:15,160 --> 01:29:16,639
Speaker 3: Hey Mike, Happy birthday.

1668
01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:19,519
Speaker 2: All right, that's it. We'll see you on well, I

1669
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:21,320
Speaker 2: we'll see you on Monday. I'll be in Jersey. Steve

1670
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:22,719
Speaker 2: will be here at noon