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Speaker 1: I'm Kyle Yeomans. Thirty four to ten Cowboys fall.
Speaker 2: Houston Texans hand the Cowboys their seventh loss of the season.
Speaker 1: They are now three and seven, ten games in. But
Speaker 1: there's still a chance.
Speaker 2: Kyle, no quarterback, no tight end, no three fifths of
Speaker 2: your offensive line, no edge rushers, no.
Speaker 1: Corners, step on the field and you play a game.
Speaker 1: You have a chance to run the table and get
Speaker 1: seventh straight. You have a chance.
Speaker 2: So the best case scenario is you roll off seven
Speaker 2: straight and you're ten and seven and.
Speaker 1: You may get in. Yeah, but look at the team.
Speaker 4: Look at the teams that you're playing that are left, Kyle,
Speaker 4: there's so much optimism left, and you're.
Speaker 1: Gonna want we scored on that man? Are he's most
Speaker 1: of these teams, Most of the teams playoff team, Most
Speaker 1: of the teams are about to play have losing records. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're gonna win some games, but come on, no seat,
Speaker 1: are you?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: I like the story of that reality. See yeah, come on, Kyle,
Speaker 1: all listen.
Speaker 3: They're even if they know put this in science lab
Speaker 3: last week, so check out check it out on the
Speaker 3: dot com, ladies and gentlemen. Even if the Cowboys had
Speaker 3: won this game, their playoff odds would have gone.
Speaker 1: To a whopping there's a chance.
Speaker 3: Because they lost, and it now drops to less than
Speaker 3: one percent. They have a less than one percent chance
Speaker 3: of making the playoffs. But right, I mean, mathematically speaking,
Speaker 3: they have not been eliminated from the playoffs as we
Speaker 3: have this conversation. Realistically speaking, don't expect them to be
Speaker 3: in the playoffs as we have this conversation.
Speaker 4: Listen, you cannot count them moundtil stuff starts falling from
Speaker 4: this guy.
Speaker 1: Oh well, I'm not going to hit that. We're not
Speaker 1: going to talk about that. We're not going to talk
Speaker 1: about that. But this guy is falling.
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely proverbially speaking, Yeah you did.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So yeah, things aren't well right now with the Dallas
Speaker 2: Cowboys thirty four to ten.
Speaker 1: And I mean, there were good things in this game.
Speaker 2: A lot of people were talk talking about all the bad.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of bad, don't get me wrong. There's
Speaker 2: a spurt of good, but there was a little Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's a like in between the first and the fourth
Speaker 2: quarters where you gave up fourteen unanswered points, you felt
Speaker 2: decent about your second.
Speaker 6: Takes a quarter.
Speaker 1: It's good spurts.
Speaker 4: It's more than what we've had in the past. It
Speaker 4: felt worse than what it was. I think it was ugly,
Speaker 4: but it felt worse than what it actually was. I mean,
Speaker 4: you didn't have a bunch of turnovers. You put the
Speaker 4: ball on the ground a bunch of times, but you
Speaker 4: didn't have a bunch of turnovers. You were in I
Speaker 4: don't think you're supposed to do that either. No, you're
Speaker 4: definitely not supposed to do that, but I mean, you
Speaker 4: should have had at least at least five interceptions.
Speaker 1: Should have but you didn't, right, but you should have.
Speaker 6: One of the most shocking things.
Speaker 7: I don't think Houston played very well, and I don't
Speaker 7: think they're a really great team either.
Speaker 3: I agree with you on both points. I just wonder
Speaker 3: if Houston is caught in the in their own hype.
Speaker 3: It's like my late grandma used to say, you're smelling yourself, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean the coming off of the playoff berth last season,
Speaker 3: and then they kind of raded off to a hot
Speaker 3: start this season and the kind of started feeling themselves
Speaker 3: and forgot that they got to actually play up to
Speaker 3: a particular standard every single week, which is why they
Speaker 3: were on the two game losing streak in the first place,
Speaker 3: one of those.
Speaker 1: Losses being to the Jets.
Speaker 3: Of all teams, they were competitive against the Lions, but
Speaker 3: they let the Lions come back in the second half.
Speaker 3: But if you saw what they were doing against the Cowboys,
Speaker 3: it did feel like they were playing down a bit.
Speaker 3: But the Cowboys could have taken advantage of that, and
Speaker 3: they just found ways to not take advantage of it.
Speaker 3: So you know, whether it be lack of execution. Like
Speaker 3: you talk about the the interception from Cooper Rush, which
Speaker 3: looked like a miscommunication between Rush and Ceedee Lamb.
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't think he got knocked on the rock. Okay,
Speaker 1: six yards deep?
Speaker 4: It could have been should have been a legal contact.
Speaker 1: It was definitely six yards.
Speaker 2: They were talking about it on the broadcast and they're like,
Speaker 2: I could have been and then he was like, no,
Speaker 2: I was right on the border of five yards.
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, I'm gonna count one.
Speaker 4: Sitting right next to Kyle when the game this morning,
Speaker 4: I was like, that's a legal contact.
Speaker 3: Yeah, fair enough, So we'll delete that. But what you
Speaker 3: can't delete is the fake punt attempt interception and the
Speaker 3: desperation move and the fourth down first, the decision to
Speaker 3: go for it on fourth down instead of take that
Speaker 3: field goal. You took three points off of the board there.
Speaker 3: That's six points that were left on the field if
Speaker 3: you include Brandon Aubrey missing, and then I mean we'll
Speaker 3: get into the point downhill from there. Yeah, we'll get
Speaker 3: into the whole. I don't know, find me a new
Speaker 3: table to stand on, because apparently the one I'm standing
Speaker 3: on is just not working.
Speaker 1: The Trey Lance.
Speaker 5: What what?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 1: Why not? Why not? Because he's not a good quarterback? Patrick,
Speaker 1: That's where I'm saying he's not a good quarterback. Can
Speaker 1: ask you a question, Yes, okay, you if you believe
Speaker 1: let me free it this way?
Speaker 3: When you're first in goal, yeah, and you can't score
Speaker 3: and you can't score, yeah, would you would you prefer
Speaker 3: to see Trey Lance in on that situation?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Probably?
Speaker 3: Okay, So that means in that situation at least he's
Speaker 3: the better and that he's a better option.
Speaker 1: He's a threat.
Speaker 3: So we can agree, we can split the baby, and
Speaker 3: we can agree situations where Trey Lance is a better option, yes,
Speaker 3: and yet we are not seeing him on the field
Speaker 3: in those circumstances at all.
Speaker 7: But McCarthy was very clear in his press conference though
Speaker 7: that you know he regrets not putting Tree Lance there
Speaker 7: in correct, so.
Speaker 1: Find being for what he did say it. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: he's owning it. That's the thing that we talked about
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. I agree with you.
Speaker 2: I think they should utilize both guys. I think they
Speaker 2: should utilize Cooper Rush and Trey Lance. But if you're
Speaker 2: telling me Trey Lance is going to make the difference
Speaker 2: between a thirty four to ten football game.
Speaker 1: No, it's not to happen, period.
Speaker 3: It was never My stance was evaluate them and if
Speaker 3: you if your argument, if your argument is that Cooper
Speaker 3: Rush gives you the best chance to win, the only
Speaker 3: way to prove to me that your goal is in
Speaker 3: fact to win that game. If that is that that's
Speaker 3: your goal, if that's your take, is in those situations
Speaker 3: wherein Trey Lance gives you the better chance of either
Speaker 3: moving the chains or getting into the end zone, why
Speaker 3: is he not on the field.
Speaker 2: Because I don't think McCarthy believes that. I think McCarthy
Speaker 2: believes Cooper Rush is the best chance to win.
Speaker 1: Because Ry Jones that it goes back to what, wait,
Speaker 1: does he regret what we've talked about it? I don't know.
Speaker 4: J Jones said, again, that's McCarthy's thing.
Speaker 1: We've talked about this before.
Speaker 2: This is an evaluation process for everybody that is going
Speaker 2: to be around the Cowboys for a significant period of time.
Speaker 1: I don't think you can look at that coaching staff right.
Speaker 2: Now and say one of those guys is going to
Speaker 2: be here for a significant period of time. Everyone is
Speaker 2: in question. Everyone on the staff on the staff right now.
Speaker 2: So if they're not looking to evaluate.
Speaker 1: They're looking to win games. And as sucky as it is,
Speaker 1: you just don't have.
Speaker 2: A very good football team, whether it's by injuries or
Speaker 2: by depth. We talked about at the beginning of the
Speaker 2: year this show. We sat on this show in training
Speaker 2: camp and said, the depth on this team is not
Speaker 2: very good.
Speaker 1: We do not have a ton of depth.
Speaker 2: You said it, You said it, you said it, I
Speaker 2: said it. And if there were injuries and specific spots
Speaker 2: on the roster, and.
Speaker 1: There were a lot of them, there will be problems.
Speaker 1: We got more.
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, yes you're ready for those news, and
Speaker 4: but why not since we're just going ahead and your hand,
Speaker 4: I'm slapping somebody with the other.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm here for I'm here for playing off of
Speaker 3: each other since you break up injuries. So we're not
Speaker 3: going to have a ton of information quite yet because
Speaker 3: it's a quick turnaround to this show from a prime
Speaker 3: time game last night.
Speaker 1: But here's what we do know.
Speaker 3: We do know that Jake Ferguson is officially in the
Speaker 3: concussion protocol. That does not bold well for the Pro
Speaker 3: Bowl tight end. Because this is a short week going
Speaker 3: into to the Washington Commander's game, and it is very unlikely.
Speaker 3: We'll see how he progresses, but it is very unlikely
Speaker 3: that Ferguson clears concussion protocol in time to make the
Speaker 3: flight to the nation's capital to take on Dan Quinn
Speaker 3: and those guys. Zach Martin, who has been dealing with
Speaker 3: several issues, a back issue several weeks ago, shoulder issue
Speaker 3: as recently as this week, and an ankle issue that
Speaker 3: was prior to going into this game. He was knocked
Speaker 3: out of this game with an ankle issue. The other
Speaker 3: ankle okay, so future first ballot Hall of Famer. All
Speaker 3: we can do is keep our fingers crossed and hope
Speaker 3: that those weren't the final snaps for Zack Martin in
Speaker 3: a Dallas Cowboys uniform. More information to come on that
Speaker 3: as the yes the next several days move forward. Let's
Speaker 3: keep it to the offensive line, because apparently fate hates
Speaker 3: us so much.
Speaker 1: Tyler Smith.
Speaker 3: Not long after you lose Zach Martin to an ankle injury,
Speaker 3: you lose Tyler Smith to an injury.
Speaker 1: What was the injury? An ankle injury?
Speaker 3: Can't make this stuff up, man, two words. Murphy's long
Speaker 3: so Tyler Smith also dealing with the ankle injury. Now,
Speaker 3: I will say Tyler spoke. Smith spoke in the locker room,
Speaker 3: and he was in solid spirits in regards to the injury.
Speaker 3: He didn't sound too concerned about it. Obviously, he voiced
Speaker 3: a lot of frustration for what's going on with the season,
Speaker 3: how it's kind of circling the porcelain bowl. But he
Speaker 3: said that you know, he's a competitor quote unquote, I'm
Speaker 3: not fin a tank. I'm not Finnah go in the tank.
Speaker 3: End quote. But nonetheless, we don't know what his availability
Speaker 3: will be like on a short week either. So you
Speaker 3: have your two guards. That should be it for the offense. No,
Speaker 3: that's not it for the offensive line because Tyler Geyton
Speaker 3: was also knocked out of the game on a play
Speaker 3: that involved not one fumble but two fumbles. Because the
Speaker 3: offensive tackles in Dallas like to that. Yeah, they like
Speaker 3: to become ball carriers. So on the play we're we're in,
Speaker 3: Cooper us fumbled because the pressure was allowed by Tyler
Speaker 3: guydon pressure gets there, Cooper Rush fumbles. Tyler Goyton gets
Speaker 3: the ball that run and he gets absolutely lit up
Speaker 3: and he fumbles and he.
Speaker 1: Did not come back in the game after that. So
Speaker 1: shoulder injury is what he entered the game with.
Speaker 3: And if you go back and look at the film
Speaker 3: of that hit right dead on the shoulder, on that
Speaker 3: exact shoulder. So we don't know that Tyler Gotton will
Speaker 3: be ready to go against Washington. So before I give
Speaker 3: you this fifth and final injury from yesterday, you have
Speaker 3: Tyler Goton, Tyler Smith, Zach Martin. You have three starters
Speaker 3: on your offensive line who may or may not play
Speaker 3: against the Commanders as you try to keep three and
Speaker 3: eight away. So good luck Marquise Bell. He suffered a
Speaker 3: marquis shoulder injury. Shoulder, Yeah, he walked out.
Speaker 1: Yeah bad. Initially it's bad. Yeah, it looks bad.
Speaker 3: And I don't want to say probably, we'll wait for
Speaker 3: more tests, but it does look bad.
Speaker 1: Does not look promising. Hoping for the best for Marquis Bell.
Speaker 6: Not to speculate, but it kind of looked like it
Speaker 6: was like a hyper extension.
Speaker 1: It just it looked very It wasn't where it's supposed
Speaker 1: to be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a couple So the Cowboys entered this game with
Speaker 3: eighteen guys on the injury report and they just added
Speaker 3: some more as far as because Marquis Bell wasn't on
Speaker 3: there for one, Tyler Smith on there, but those that
Speaker 3: are on there that but it's worse now, So they
Speaker 3: didn't escape clean or anything remotely.
Speaker 1: Things just continue to get worse for the cous.
Speaker 6: And only have five days to play the next game.
Speaker 1: Right before travel. Yeah, and then you turn around you
Speaker 1: play on Thursday too, So three.
Speaker 3: Years, all of all the times to have this new spurt,
Speaker 3: you like spurts, this new spurt of injuries.
Speaker 6: Were getting spurted on for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's about right.
Speaker 2: So that brings my conversation piece to kind of what
Speaker 2: Jerry Jones said on the Fan today because he had
Speaker 2: some updates on one oh five three the Fan.
Speaker 1: Initially earlier this.
Speaker 2: Season, he was asked how do injuries affect your evaluation
Speaker 2: of the coaching staff, and he, at least in the
Speaker 2: initial interview, said it doesn't affect it. We're going to
Speaker 2: evaluate the coaching staff as its own, as its own entity,
Speaker 2: as its own thing.
Speaker 1: Injuries are a part of the game, so we're going
Speaker 1: to evaluate as such.
Speaker 2: He was asked the same question today and he had
Speaker 2: a different answer to He said, absolutely it does change.
Speaker 1: The way that we look at the coaching staff.
Speaker 2: So I don't want to talk about jobs or lost
Speaker 2: thereof or anything like that, but just from a microcosm
Speaker 2: of the twenty twenty four season, how much can you
Speaker 2: put on injuries because it's starting to become unbelievable the
Speaker 2: list that is being rolled out there a week to week.
Speaker 7: I like what Isaia said a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 7: where it's like the when you're losing like this, the
Speaker 7: injury lists tends to grow.
Speaker 6: I think that's an apt.
Speaker 7: Reasoning behind a lot of it, and obviously a lot
Speaker 7: of bad luck too. I don't know what we did
Speaker 7: god to deserve the injury bug that we've been bitten by,
Speaker 7: but it is disheartening when you see your best players
Speaker 7: go down like this. It's disheartening to see a player
Speaker 7: the caliber of Zach Martin struggle to stand up after
Speaker 7: taking another injury to his different ankle, right, it is
Speaker 7: really really disheartening.
Speaker 6: I mean, it's just, yeah, it's not going our way, man.
Speaker 7: And I don't think you can necessarily say it is
Speaker 7: just the injuries, because before this, even at New York,
Speaker 7: when you were at full strength for the most part,
Speaker 7: it wasn't looking great. Granted he won that game, granted
Speaker 7: you won Pittsburgh. It just it just felt like a down,
Speaker 7: downward spiral, even with full health. I just don't think
Speaker 7: this team was built to withstand the season. Like we
Speaker 7: talked about death coming into the season, and here we
Speaker 7: gorease its head again.
Speaker 3: That's where I am with it. The last thing, the
Speaker 3: least portion of what Josh said, is kind of where
Speaker 3: I am with it. First of all, it's the NFL.
Speaker 3: Every team deals with injuries, and I get it. Every
Speaker 3: team deals with different levels of injuries, different magnitudes of injuries.
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 3: That being said, they were playing bad football before the
Speaker 3: injury started to ravage them. So for me, that means
Speaker 3: it's a wash for me because you were really low
Speaker 3: on your playoff percentage as far as possibly making the playoffs.
Speaker 3: You were almost out the door before you lost that Prescott,
Speaker 3: before you started to lose some of these other major guys.
Speaker 1: So you can blame some of this on the injuries.
Speaker 3: But once this season is in the books, anyone who
Speaker 3: comes up to me and tries to hang whatever this
Speaker 3: final record is solely on injuries, say, oh well, no,
Speaker 3: see it was because I'm going to laugh at you
Speaker 3: that no injuries at after you got past the event
Speaker 3: horizon of virtually being eliminated from the playoffs, that's when
Speaker 3: the injury bug really or when you were teetering there,
Speaker 3: that's when the injury bug really started to kind of
Speaker 3: make sure that you wouldn't make the playoffs. But you
Speaker 3: got there before the injury bug went crazy. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I think that's a watch for me.
Speaker 6: What the Ravens did do you It's like that that
Speaker 6: was what the Saints did do. That's that's the team
Speaker 6: that Yeah, that was weak.
Speaker 1: Two. Well, I completely agree with that sentiment because.
Speaker 2: I think going into the Atlanta game, I'll say, going
Speaker 2: into Atlanta, you probably thought that this is a normal
Speaker 2: level of injuries outside.
Speaker 1: Of maybe your edge rushers. Your edge rushers, you got
Speaker 1: decimated for sure, Yeah, all the way through.
Speaker 2: And you didn't have DeMarcus Lawrence, Sam Williams, Michael Parsons,
Speaker 2: those guys. You you had one position that was overly
Speaker 2: decimated with injuries. Other than that, you have a healthy
Speaker 2: offensive line, you had a healthy running back room, you
Speaker 2: have a healthy wide receiver corps except for Brandon Cooks.
Speaker 1: You've got a healthy linebacker corps. For the most part,
Speaker 1: your corners are banged up, but.
Speaker 2: At that point you only were really missing Doron Bland
Speaker 2: as a guy that was going to be.
Speaker 1: A starter moving forward, So your running back corps was whole. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I said that.
Speaker 2: So there's I think there's ways that you can look
Speaker 2: at it and say, yeah, they were decimated by injuries
Speaker 2: throughout the season. Absolutely in certain spots, but there are
Speaker 2: a lot of parts of your football team that just
Speaker 2: weren't having success with or without injuries previously. Now it's
Speaker 2: snowball significantly, and it's not just like what Isaiah said
Speaker 2: last week where he was saying there's a difference between
Speaker 2: being hurt and injured that I think that plays a
Speaker 2: factor in a season like this. There are just a
Speaker 2: lot of guys that are actually injured, especially yesterday, Martin.
Speaker 1: Being one of them, Bell being another one of them.
Speaker 2: Jake Ferguson Jerry Jones said this morning that he has
Speaker 2: some concern, a level of concern whenever it comes to
Speaker 2: the concussion because it was an immediate thing where he.
Speaker 1: Was pulled out of the game.
Speaker 2: So this is this is a not only is it
Speaker 2: a bad football team from what we saw previously, but
Speaker 2: now it's a bad and banged up football team. That's
Speaker 2: where we are for the twenty twenty four Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 4: And yet I still think that there's a glimmer of hope,
Speaker 4: young fellas.
Speaker 1: I don't believe you.
Speaker 4: It's okay, Kyle's I'm not here to convince you.
Speaker 1: I'm just here to tell the truth. I want you
Speaker 1: to convince me. I don't need to convince you, Kyle.
Speaker 1: The facts that are facts.
Speaker 4: These guys, if they can figure out how to muster
Speaker 4: up some form of offense, this defense is starting to somewhat.
Speaker 1: Look like they're respectable.
Speaker 4: M There's there's actual flashes there. Now you have Demo,
Speaker 4: you have Micah. Those guys are adding pressure. Those guys
Speaker 4: are causing problems for all the quarterbacks we were able
Speaker 4: to see on third down situations. Demo, you know obviously,
Speaker 4: now when you walk have Michael Parsons and a Demo
Speaker 4: and the other guys up there Kendricks on the field,
Speaker 4: and now all of a sudden, that double a gap
Speaker 4: looks a little bit better, it looks a little bit
Speaker 4: more effective. I'm not saying up here trying to sell
Speaker 4: wolf dreams at all. Woof tickets. But I think if
Speaker 4: you can get something going on offense, you will see
Speaker 4: a spark.
Speaker 1: I truly do think that you.
Speaker 4: Will see a spark because right now you're seeing flashes. Right,
Speaker 4: it's like dog going like your car just won't turn over,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like this offense will turnover.
Speaker 4: I mean, but like if they can figure that out, right,
Speaker 4: if they can figure that out, I never seeing about
Speaker 4: talking about trade.
Speaker 1: And I think you're obviously Cooper has not had He's
Speaker 1: had two bad games. He was offline yesterday. He was
Speaker 1: throwing stuff all over the place. I don't know what.
Speaker 4: He's just trying to find himself in this off servers
Speaker 4: a lot. He's trying to find himself in this offense. Right,
Speaker 4: we can't compare him to We can't say to five
Speaker 4: and three. Uh now, now five and three Cooper Rush,
Speaker 4: that office was different. This office is sputtering, to say
Speaker 4: the least. I mean, this is like one touchdowns past
Speaker 4: Dak was in here.
Speaker 1: It's bad.
Speaker 4: So now you have to put that in Mike McCarthy
Speaker 4: and Brian Sharton Himer's lab. Right, So you're not your Yeah,
Speaker 4: you're not going to get that play from your QB.
Speaker 4: So now what can I do play call wise that
Speaker 4: can at least enlist some positivity consistently, right, we have
Speaker 4: to get something on. The running game is not going
Speaker 4: your office of line you're missing three, you're starting offensive
Speaker 4: lineman now. So now it's on the coaches more than
Speaker 4: ever to create something. And I truly believe with this
Speaker 4: schedule that you have coming up, you have a chance
Speaker 4: to go forur and on the next four games. And
Speaker 4: I know that sounds crazy coming off these last two games,
Speaker 4: but I'm just looking at it into being.
Speaker 1: Real with you. You're crazy. You're crazy, man. If you
Speaker 1: can get that going this week.
Speaker 4: And coach McCarthy, you got to go borrow somebody's Christmas
Speaker 4: bag and dig down there and grab some toys and
Speaker 4: get some layaway like we should do at kmart back
Speaker 4: in the day.
Speaker 1: Get some layaway toys.
Speaker 4: Do that, okay, And Schottenheimer getting your bag as well,
Speaker 4: and you guys put together one hell of a game
Speaker 4: plan that puts your playmakers in a position to be successful.
Speaker 1: You saw I talked about Cavante turpind weeks ago.
Speaker 4: I said, if you can get him going and get
Speaker 4: him confident in the slot, heck, weapon. All of a sudden,
Speaker 4: you put him in a slide and you get him
Speaker 4: on an over route. Uhah, he just runs. I think
Speaker 4: it might have been the fastest time in the league
Speaker 4: this year.
Speaker 1: In the last four years. Yeah, he's real here.
Speaker 4: So that's a weapon. Right, So you're building confidence with
Speaker 4: that guy, right, Brandman spam Ford even got.
Speaker 1: Some touches yesterday. Right, So you're getting some guys going.
Speaker 4: If you can mustard up something offensively, you just might
Speaker 4: get that transmission and the ending to turn over just
Speaker 4: a little bit, and then this defense might actually come
Speaker 4: to play a little bit because you're starting to see
Speaker 4: a little bit of a spark there. But when you
Speaker 4: have one side that's having some spurts and then the
Speaker 4: other side lets you down, it's like playing it's like
Speaker 4: playing full court press, and you got the point man
Speaker 4: at the top of the game and he's up there hustling,
Speaker 4: but everybody else is just kind of sitting back.
Speaker 1: What's the point in two straight games too? Yeah, it's like,
Speaker 1: what's the point in both games?
Speaker 2: A one score game at halftime going into the halftime
Speaker 2: break against the Eagles and the Texans because of your defense,
Speaker 2: your defense helped serve and the defense gives you a shot.
Speaker 7: Like you said, I like what you said about the
Speaker 7: defense and how they're there's something there, right, but look
Speaker 7: at the circumstances and situations that the offense and now
Speaker 7: special teams.
Speaker 6: Are putting them in. It is insurmountable.
Speaker 7: So the mistakes that they're making on both sides, on
Speaker 7: special teams and also.
Speaker 1: Not complimentary ball.
Speaker 3: It is not it is not to what you just
Speaker 3: said and what I've been saying that in comparison to
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two, this is a different outfit for Cooper Rush.
Speaker 3: This outfit does not put him in the best position
Speaker 3: to succeed because the offensive line it did better last night,
Speaker 3: I will say that, but for the most part, they've
Speaker 3: had protection issues up front. The rushing attack did him
Speaker 3: no favors last night. Rico really struggled last night, and
Speaker 3: then so did everyone else. I give a lot of
Speaker 3: that credit to the front seven. Oh, that's fair, but
Speaker 3: Houston was a really good he didn't have a rushing attack.
Speaker 1: Yeah, to Lean, they weren't great on the secondary side
Speaker 1: of things.
Speaker 3: And then Cooper himself, he was not making good throws,
Speaker 3: like a lot of the throws on those cross the routes,
Speaker 3: they were behind receivers, they were behind ceed lamb and
Speaker 3: things like that. But and I hate to be hate
Speaker 3: to be this guy. But let's say they win four
Speaker 3: games of the next seven. Okay, do you know what
Speaker 3: it does for their playoff lots? I kid you not,
Speaker 3: liter really nothing, it would they if they win it.
Speaker 3: This is via playoff status dot com. Uh, fantastic sight
Speaker 3: if you guys want to keep tracking interesting, if the
Speaker 3: Cowboys win four of the next seven games, they still
Speaker 3: have less than a one percent chance of making the playoffs.
Speaker 6: And it hurts your draft position.
Speaker 3: And it hurts you draft position. Now you're wondering based
Speaker 3: on what I just said. Well, no, see, how many
Speaker 3: do they have to win for it to actually matter?
Speaker 3: For it to actually matter, you have to win six
Speaker 3: of the next seven. But that only increases you to
Speaker 3: fourteen percent. You have a fourteen percent chance if you
Speaker 3: want six nine, seven. Correct, That is not winning. That's
Speaker 3: not even great. But at least that's conversation. You have
Speaker 3: to win seven seven.
Speaker 1: I get it, I get it.
Speaker 4: Control the controllables. I'm just I'm just speaking literally from
Speaker 4: from what I'm seeing, and it's really bad on offense, right,
Speaker 4: now if I'm just telling you, if you heard your
Speaker 4: no no no if. But again, I'm putting that on
Speaker 4: the lap of McCarthy or shot himri. The're coaching for
Speaker 4: not only this job, they're coaching for the for the
Speaker 4: jobs in the future. That's just the reality.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not.
Speaker 4: It's the probability of them returning here is low. I'm
Speaker 4: just gonna say it out there. Okay, it's low. Right,
Speaker 4: I'm not calling those shots, but this is this is
Speaker 4: keep let's keep it real, Okay. So they're coaching for
Speaker 4: for opportunities in the future, whether that's here or whether
Speaker 4: that's at another location. That's what they're coaching for. Regardless
Speaker 4: of what's going on with this season. They have a
Speaker 4: reputation as a coaching staff. People are gonna look back
Speaker 4: and look at their film and their decision making. So
Speaker 4: I'm putting it in their laps to put together a
Speaker 4: game plan that utilizes the resources that they have right
Speaker 4: now in their hand. Their old line has beat the crap,
Speaker 4: but you have some young guys behind them that are hungry.
Speaker 4: You have a hoffman who likes to fight every play
Speaker 4: you have. You have a bass who likes who likes
Speaker 4: to get after it right, and not just being underwater.
Speaker 4: You have some dudes that can get after it. Okay,
Speaker 4: you got two money dough. You got some dudes out
Speaker 4: there that can play. You don't have no no, no
Speaker 4: punks behind them. These guys can step up and play.
Speaker 4: But you have to give them purpose. You have to
Speaker 4: give them some motivation. You got to give them some encouragement.
Speaker 4: And if you do an if you find a way
Speaker 4: to mix in some trey lands to get some spark
Speaker 4: and move the chains from here and there, you might
Speaker 4: just find something. But again that's on the coaches. You're
Speaker 4: not gonna You can't just keep calling your game like
Speaker 4: normal and expect your players just.
Speaker 1: To pick it up. It's not the case, right.
Speaker 4: You have to figure out something. And I think if
Speaker 4: you do, if you win these next two games, then
Speaker 4: guess what Deron Blam might come back right then? Obviously
Speaker 4: d Law might say, hmm, maybe I want to come
Speaker 4: back now, right, Maybe I want to, Maybe I don't.
Speaker 4: Maybe I don't want to sit out here with my
Speaker 4: family in this suite. Maybe I want to get out
Speaker 4: there and get on the field.
Speaker 1: Right. So, now you have some guys that step up there.
Speaker 1: Now all of a sudden your defense. You look around
Speaker 1: your life.
Speaker 4: Oh crap, these guys are rolling right, and again, what
Speaker 4: that does for your playoffs? That's not in your that's
Speaker 4: not your control.
Speaker 1: You control, you control. Again, it's the same offensive players.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep this conversation rolling into the second break
Speaker 2: because we've got to take her first one. When we
Speaker 2: come back, we'll continue this conversation talk about the schedule
Speaker 2: ahead and some of the winnable games that are there,
Speaker 2: and how do you get there. That's my question is
Speaker 2: what is that game play and what does it look
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Speaker 1: No, it's not Kyle Quaker. Don't do that. Don't you
Speaker 1: freaking do that. You freaking wake it up, buddy. It's
Speaker 1: not a funeral. I never went to sleep.
Speaker 4: It's not a freaking funeral. Okay, you get back on
Speaker 4: that saddle and who get back on that thing?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 2: Well, just because of that, let's look at the next
Speaker 2: four games. We're talking about four games that just.
Speaker 1: Look to just look to just look at the nixt two.
Speaker 4: Just look at the next two, Kyle, because if you don't,
Speaker 4: if you look too far in advance, you know you're
Speaker 4: gonna lose.
Speaker 1: You're gonna lose. Hope, look at the next two. All right.
Speaker 4: If you can't get up for a game against your
Speaker 4: former defensive coordinator, then go just sit out at the crib.
Speaker 2: There's seven and four. It's a noon kickoff on the
Speaker 2: road against the Commanders.
Speaker 6: This Commanders.
Speaker 1: You know, D's gonna be hype.
Speaker 6: He's gonna be high.
Speaker 4: You know he's gonna be hype. And I'm honestly he's
Speaker 4: looking to bring it. He's gonna bring the heat. And
Speaker 4: I like, obviously I love Dan Quinn. I'm not one
Speaker 4: hundred percent convinced with their team.
Speaker 6: I don't think they are either.
Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, I'm serious.
Speaker 6: I had a hot start, but man, yes.
Speaker 4: I'm not one hundred percent convinced with their team. And
Speaker 4: I think that the one player, right the one player
Speaker 4: that really makes their thing go. Okay, they have too
Speaker 4: offensively really right, you got the B B. Robinson obviously
Speaker 4: at the running back position, and then you have Jayden Daniels.
Speaker 1: If you can Terry McLaurin.
Speaker 4: But but if, but if you can get it, if
Speaker 4: you can get to Jaydon, yeah, I think I think
Speaker 4: if you get to Jaydon, he's frail, that he's I'm
Speaker 4: not I don't wish nothing on nobody, but with what
Speaker 4: you're seeing. But yeah, absolutely what you see between between
Speaker 4: between Demo and freaking Mike. I'm telling you that combination
Speaker 4: is nasty. I'm gonna keep saying it. You'll can get
Speaker 4: tired of me saying that that combination is ooh wee.
Speaker 4: I don't think it's ooh freaking wi. I'm telling you
Speaker 4: what one guy is like, Okay, he's a problem. When
Speaker 4: there's two of those jokers, Jason, it's all.
Speaker 6: We can hang our hand hat on right now. But
Speaker 6: even yesterday, please keep saying.
Speaker 4: Better yesterday. If you watch so, I'm telling you it's
Speaker 4: you could turn it on and turn it off as
Speaker 4: a player. I don't know if fans know that, right,
Speaker 4: and just I'm just gonna say some stuff that people
Speaker 4: probably don't want to hear.
Speaker 1: The check hits the same whether you win or win
Speaker 1: or nice it does.
Speaker 4: The check hits the same those eight over those eighteen weeks,
Speaker 4: whether you win or not, you're gonna get paid the
Speaker 4: same exact amount as a player. Now, with that on
Speaker 4: the table, I can either be motivated to go play
Speaker 4: or I can say, eh, I'm just going out here
Speaker 4: just trying to survive.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna count down this clock every game and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna wait for that check to hit.
Speaker 4: That's the mindset. That is the realistic mindset. Sorry for
Speaker 4: those that think that that sounds terrible, that's the reality.
Speaker 2: It feels more so like the ladder, at least yesterday
Speaker 2: after the game was over and kind of the field
Speaker 2: going into lockerroom, if they would have laid down, if
Speaker 2: they would have laid down, They did not lay down.
Speaker 4: I don't feel like they laid down. I feel like
Speaker 4: the game got away from him, and I feel they
Speaker 4: crazy stuff happened. Tyler Guiding thought he was a running back.
Speaker 1: I'm here's the proof.
Speaker 3: They didn't lay down. They were almost literally still fighting. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean fighting. They're fighting.
Speaker 4: So that's why when when Jerry Jones gets out there
Speaker 4: in the postgame it says that I don't there's no
Speaker 4: quit in those guys.
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with him at least saying regards to
Speaker 1: this game. I don't think exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think they quit in this game, but
Speaker 2: I think they were looking at it in a similar
Speaker 2: way that everyone is looking at it, and they're saying, Okay,
Speaker 2: now you gotta win out now, that's it.
Speaker 4: It's your only hope. And even that is a slim chance.
Speaker 4: You know what it starts with, call it starts with one.
Speaker 4: And I'm not I'm not being I'm not trying to
Speaker 4: be super overly optimistic. I'm just being realistic. Right now,
Speaker 4: I'm saying, you're.
Speaker 6: Like one of those motivational posters.
Speaker 1: No, it's just it's just it's the reality of everybody's
Speaker 1: playing for their job.
Speaker 4: Like, even though it sucks, somebody has to have a
Speaker 4: conversation with these guys right now and say, hey, coaches,
Speaker 4: if you guys ever want to coach again, y'all might
Speaker 4: want to figure it out. Ye players, you guys these
Speaker 4: I don't know if y'all notice, but you're kind most
Speaker 4: of y'all contracts are not guaranteed. I remember when coach
Speaker 4: Willingham came into to University of Washington and he told everybody, he's, y'all,
Speaker 4: don't do know that your scholarships are one year renewable contracts, right,
Speaker 4: and players like what and he started cutting guys, you're
Speaker 4: not guaranteed anything beyond this year. So if you put
Speaker 4: bad film out there, you're hurting yourself. Right if you're
Speaker 4: if you're if you're just hanging it up and just
Speaker 4: kind of just kind of trying to coast through. Two
Speaker 4: things are gonna happen. You're gonna put out bad film.
Speaker 4: It's not gonna help you try to get a contract
Speaker 4: somewhere else or even here next year. And you're gonna
Speaker 4: get injured because playing at anything less than one hundred
Speaker 4: percent in this league will get you hurt when the
Speaker 4: other guys playing at them exactly so saw some injuries
Speaker 4: pop up. I'm not saying that's how they came, but
Speaker 4: I'm just saying that you'll start seeing more of that
Speaker 4: if guys are start trying to just you know, call
Speaker 4: it in. So if you have a spark and it
Speaker 4: starts becoming fun again, that's when you'll see you guys
Speaker 4: start turning it back on. You're starting to see it
Speaker 4: on defense. You're starting to see it on defense. It's
Speaker 4: on the coaches now offensively, and they have to keep
Speaker 4: building defensively. Don't think that I'm letting those guys off
Speaker 4: off the hood. Sure they got to figure some things
Speaker 4: out still, they'll continue to get better, Jesus. But they'll
Speaker 4: get better as long as they continue to make plays
Speaker 4: and get more motivated, get more excited. Has some celebrations,
Speaker 4: all those all that step stuffs happening to guys want
Speaker 4: to play together offensively, you have there has to be hope.
Speaker 4: There has to be hope outside of the players. Outside
Speaker 4: of the players, there has to be hope. Get the
Speaker 4: ball on Turp's hands in space. Oh look what happened?
Speaker 4: Yeah that works right? What are you asking him to
Speaker 4: do what he does best? Maybe don't try it downfield,
Speaker 4: that's exactly. Let's not throw it to him fifteen twenty
Speaker 4: yards down.
Speaker 6: Maybe he's just not a good body in the air, yay.
Speaker 1: Maybe get it in in a position to be maybe
Speaker 1: block put him in a position to be. Society novel
Speaker 1: or you call duzvon up for this game. You sit
Speaker 1: down hundred lifting and run him in the winning attack
Speaker 1: and you run him in between the tackles. That's not creative.
Speaker 4: That's running your same offense with a different personnel and
Speaker 4: expecting different results. That's not being creative. Yes, be creative.
Speaker 4: I don't care if you gotta go watch Shanahan tape.
Speaker 4: I don't care if you gotta go watch old killing
Speaker 4: Moore tape when he used to empty out his bag
Speaker 4: in the first three games.
Speaker 1: Of the season. I don't care if you gotta go
Speaker 1: watch Ben Johnson.
Speaker 4: Please go watch all these cats or whatever you gotta
Speaker 4: do to spark some some into some innovation so that
Speaker 4: you can get these guys playing Prevens van for.
Speaker 1: When you get in the red zone. He's freaking six nineteen.
Speaker 1: Put him in the post. At least six nineteen.
Speaker 4: Put him in a post. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 4: that's not your normal guy that you throw the ball to.
Speaker 4: But guess what, he's huge. You go to him and
Speaker 4: you say, hey, hey, bro, you're taller, you're bigger, you're
Speaker 4: fasten all these cats.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go down there. You post up in the
Speaker 1: goal line. I'm throwing it up to you. Make a play.
Speaker 6: He's got hands. Yes he was catching that mean that
Speaker 6: was his best game.
Speaker 1: So far of his career.
Speaker 4: Maybe Jonathan Mingo Mingo Mingo was open what he was
Speaker 4: four times zero zero completion kitch and he.
Speaker 1: Was open Booty button neked Op running around.
Speaker 3: Was which goes to my point. Offense just ain't it
Speaker 3: so as much as the defense. You're right, as much
Speaker 3: as the defense it effected the last two games. Actually
Speaker 3: they're showing you something.
Speaker 2: They're showing you some times, but still inconsistent enough to
Speaker 2: give up thirty four points.
Speaker 1: Because the situation exhausted.
Speaker 3: Against the Eagles, they gave you a great first half
Speaker 3: or taking the ball away. Third quarter got away from
Speaker 3: them because time of possession flipped this time around, time
Speaker 3: of possession started, not even start to flip. Texans own
Speaker 3: time of possession the entirety of the game from the
Speaker 3: first drive when they went, you know, three and out.
Speaker 3: But yeah, defense, I believe defense is showing you life.
Speaker 3: I think the defense can and probably will get better
Speaker 3: over the next several games. Problem is the offense is
Speaker 3: not showing me any life. Regardless of who they put
Speaker 3: in there.
Speaker 1: You're winning.
Speaker 3: You trade a fourth round pick for Jonathan Mango, you
Speaker 3: get him in his debut game four targets. You tried
Speaker 3: to get it. He's open, you try to get it
Speaker 3: to him. The routes were there, the play call was there,
Speaker 3: the ball wasn't there. So again, I say, the offense
Speaker 3: is just too far gone to be able to repair
Speaker 3: themselves over the course of a seven game stretch in
Speaker 3: which they need to win at minimum six to have
Speaker 3: a conversational chance, but seven to have an actual chance.
Speaker 1: I hear you, so yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3: Defense, they might make things fun going forward, but they're
Speaker 3: gonna get gassed time and again because the offense just
Speaker 3: can't can't get it.
Speaker 4: The defense is only gonna have fun and make things
Speaker 4: interesting if the offense can start playing, and if the
Speaker 4: offense does not start making plays, the defense will shut
Speaker 4: it down.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the players. Which one's more likely.
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Speaker 1: Now on the season Control the Controllables come. No, I
Speaker 1: like it, And you asked the question, it's not a
Speaker 1: funeral yet. We'll get there. Yeah, we'll get there. We'll
Speaker 1: wear black on the day. They're mathematically as long as.
Speaker 6: You're already created an effigy, as.
Speaker 1: Long as you're on a breathing machine, you're giving me
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Speaker 1: So so no preview, Yeah, no, flo you gotta wait.
Speaker 2: You just bought that thing, I know, right, Uh, But
Speaker 2: you asked the question prior to the break of I
Speaker 2: want to see which ones more likely. The more likely
Speaker 2: side of things that the offense is able to click
Speaker 2: or that the defense runs out of gas, which one
Speaker 2: is more likely.
Speaker 1: Between the two.
Speaker 4: Can't separate it, I honestly can't separate it because if
Speaker 4: the offense, if the offense does not start getting some
Speaker 4: positive consistent play, the defense will run.
Speaker 1: Well, they would just stop. It's not ever run out
Speaker 1: of gas.
Speaker 4: Is the players will not even like a putter. Yeah, no, no,
Speaker 4: no no, They'll just hit the break. The players would
Speaker 4: just be that What am I here for? I'm just
Speaker 4: being genuine, being real with the people.
Speaker 1: Right now.
Speaker 4: If the offense drivers, yeahak, by the way, whatever you need, Okay,
Speaker 4: whatever you need.
Speaker 1: What's to say they haven't hit them handbrake already?
Speaker 4: Because you saw a fight yesterday. You saw fight, You
Speaker 4: saw guys flying around, you saw cats fighting smoke. Yeah,
Speaker 4: well Kavante wanted it first before.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Marquise Bell was in the face mask of like
Speaker 3: multiple guys and the guys are guys for the one.
Speaker 2: See but the But that's the thing that I'm I'm
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm convinced by the fact that
Speaker 2: you're willing to push and show of an imposing team.
Speaker 6: No, it's just frustration.
Speaker 1: Correct. I don't know if that to me says oh
Speaker 1: these guys are fighting, they're just shows that you're not
Speaker 1: checked out, is what he's saying.
Speaker 3: It's it's because if you're completely checked why do you
Speaker 3: care enough to even I understand, but I.
Speaker 2: Argue that you fighting in that moment is just you
Speaker 2: know what, I am checked out? This season is over.
Speaker 1: Anyways, You're not gonna punk me because I'm this guy
Speaker 1: and here we go.
Speaker 4: I see you taking it that way. But that's not
Speaker 4: what we saw, Okay. I I don't disagree that we've
Speaker 4: seen that in the past. Who fighting?
Speaker 2: The guys that are showing fight quote unquote are guys
Speaker 2: like Brock Kaffman, Marquise Bell exactly. But there it was Brockkaffman,
Speaker 2: Marquis Bell, Cavante Turpin who was another one.
Speaker 1: Who else got that penalty? It was a group Smith Smith.
Speaker 2: These are all guys that haven't been your cornerstone players. No,
Speaker 2: they're not not your cornerstone guys to help you win
Speaker 2: football games.
Speaker 1: Mark there could be one of your best tacklers.
Speaker 4: Last year, he was one of your most impactful players
Speaker 4: last year safe in this system.
Speaker 1: Yes, in this and this should have been a backup
Speaker 1: in last year too.
Speaker 4: And dan quiz system, he's a starter at line back
Speaker 4: out of impact, out of necessity and impactful one he
Speaker 4: made didn't He was impactful, but not by choice.
Speaker 1: It was buying who led the team in tackles? Yeah, due,
Speaker 1: it was You could.
Speaker 4: Have led the team in tackles last season if you
Speaker 4: would take away from guys what they show on film.
Speaker 1: He was playing out of position. It was not pretty.
Speaker 4: You can't take away his production just because he's he
Speaker 4: has a versatility to play out of position.
Speaker 1: Yes, which is rare. And he showed up for him
Speaker 1: and he's and.
Speaker 4: He hurt himself yesterday doing what flying around the hit
Speaker 4: and throwing exactly body.
Speaker 1: He should have been getting defensive snaps. Yeah. Absolutely, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of guys. There's a lot of guys should
Speaker 1: have been getting defensive snaps. Clark, Yeah, huh. De moont
Speaker 1: Clark led last season those Marquis lest year and Marquis
Speaker 1: was second with So Marquis, who's your backup safety one
Speaker 1: of those? Gay and de mont Clark.
Speaker 4: De mont Clark is sitting on the sideline yesterday, and
Speaker 4: Marquis Bell, your second highest tackler from last year, just
Speaker 4: happens to be just a special teams guy for you.
Speaker 1: Now, I love Marquis Bell, don't give me this is
Speaker 1: the scheme that has Donald playing backwards. Don't get me.
Speaker 2: Wrong, I love Marquis Bell. But if we're saying Marquis
Speaker 2: Bell is a cornerstone of.
Speaker 1: This defense, I didn't say that. I'm just saying that you.
Speaker 1: That was my point is, these are guys that are
Speaker 1: not cornerstones. Okay, So how many cornerstone guys do you have.
Speaker 2: You've got Micah, You've got Demarvion Overshown. I would call
Speaker 2: him a cornerstone a defense right now. On the offensive side,
Speaker 2: you've got CD Jake Ferguson. Any of your offensive linemen
Speaker 2: that are still healthy, I mean, you've.
Speaker 1: Still at this point.
Speaker 6: Is your cornerstone.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 2: Rico Dawdle was He's got to be your cornerstone, even
Speaker 2: though they don't give him the football and he had
Speaker 2: a rough game yesterday.
Speaker 1: None of the impact players.
Speaker 4: What I'm saying is, Okay, you can put whatever title
Speaker 4: you want. You have very capable players on this roster
Speaker 4: that are healthy you have guys who are capable of
Speaker 4: being impact players on this team that are being underutilized, Yes,
Speaker 4: substantially underutilized. And again because of that, regardless of what
Speaker 4: they've done in the past, regardless of what they're doing
Speaker 4: right now.
Speaker 1: They're capable.
Speaker 4: They are so capable, and you have to give them
Speaker 4: a reason to be confident and give them a reason
Speaker 4: to run around there and play.
Speaker 1: When you see guys like Juyyat.
Speaker 4: Making plays yesterday, first person that grabs them or Butler,
Speaker 4: it was Butler that made a play yesterday.
Speaker 1: First person that grabs us is who Al Harris and
Speaker 1: gases him up.
Speaker 4: And then as he's walking away from Al Hares, you
Speaker 4: can see him literally just feel with just encouragement.
Speaker 1: You can see him feel with encouragement.
Speaker 4: My coach is invested in me and he's gassing me up. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he's my hype man. So guess what now, O, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I could do that. I can make plays. There's no
Speaker 4: different than Hardball talking to we talk about quarterbacks. Harball
Speaker 4: does the same thing to Herbert all his quarterbacks. He
Speaker 4: makes them fee like they're the greatest people on earth.
Speaker 4: It's the coach's responsibility to reinstill encouragement and confidence of
Speaker 4: these players.
Speaker 1: Even though these guys are paid, they still have coaches.
Speaker 1: If they didn't need coaches, then the coaches wouldn't be there.
Speaker 1: You still got to instill confidence.
Speaker 4: So I'm putting it on these coaches laps to give
Speaker 4: these guys an encouragement that they need to go out
Speaker 4: there and make plays. And if they don't, if you
Speaker 4: keep taking guys and just rotating them in and just
Speaker 4: putting them through your system and being so bullheaded that
Speaker 4: you think your system is so strong that it's gonna
Speaker 4: work out, you're gonna get the same result. Guys can
Speaker 4: keep hitting their head on the wall, and guys are
Speaker 4: gonna start saying, you know what, I got seven checks left, and.
Speaker 1: Everything you just said is kind of how I see
Speaker 1: it playing out right now. I don't that's.
Speaker 3: Exactly how I think the bottom line is, because yeah, coaches,
Speaker 3: they need to really step in and keep these guys
Speaker 3: like as locked in as possible and over these last
Speaker 3: seven games and.
Speaker 1: He's called and he's so called leaders sit their butt
Speaker 1: on the side. We also talked about the depth chart.
Speaker 3: You're in dire straits, brother, Yeah, I mean like at
Speaker 3: a certain point the falloff from the talent level levels
Speaker 3: at this point is just not going to match up
Speaker 3: and line up against the best of the best in
Speaker 3: the league other pro For example, the Washington Commanders you have,
Speaker 3: they have some guys hurting, but for the most part,
Speaker 3: they're mostly whole. So that talent differential between what you're
Speaker 3: going up against in a Washington Commander's team and what
Speaker 3: you're able to feel this weekend as a Cowboys team
Speaker 3: that is just killed obliterated by injuries. Coaching needs to
Speaker 3: do exactly what Isaiah is saying. Yes, but it's also
Speaker 3: true that the ceiling has now fallen all the way
Speaker 3: down here as far as what they can coach up,
Speaker 3: because you're not coaching up Brandon Cooks, he's not on
Speaker 3: the field yet. You're not coaching up DeMarcus Lawrence. He's
Speaker 3: not back on the field yet. Dron Bland not back
Speaker 3: on the field yet. Might not be Zach Martin, might
Speaker 3: not be Tyler Smith this weekend, might not be, might
Speaker 3: not be My not be.
Speaker 1: So at a point, you just don't have the horses.
Speaker 3: So you can coach up these horses as best you can,
Speaker 3: and you need to because that's what you're getting paid.
Speaker 3: To do, agreed, But if we're talking Derby type stuff,
Speaker 3: if your horse has three bad hoofs and his horse
Speaker 3: is a prize winner and it's fully healthy, you're going
Speaker 3: to the race.
Speaker 4: The reason why I said, look at the next few games. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I get it, look at the next few games, because
Speaker 4: after that you help might be in the way. And
Speaker 4: if and if you're in, if you're winning, guess what, oh.
Speaker 1: You know what this. I feel a little bit better today,
Speaker 1: you know, feel a little bit better today, you know,
Speaker 1: and give me back out there. Let's go break get
Speaker 1: those bands. Anything less than seven wins and all you
Speaker 1: did was hurt the draft position.
Speaker 4: Currently players, listen, players aren't playing for that, this coaching
Speaker 4: staffe saying, I hear you, I hear you, But this
Speaker 4: those casts on that side of the building don't give
Speaker 4: a dog off.
Speaker 1: They don't care.
Speaker 2: We can't and I think we're if we're sitting here
Speaker 2: and saying that this team, even prior to the injuries,
Speaker 2: was like kind of to Patrick's point earlier, was playing, Well,
Speaker 2: we're fooling ourselves.
Speaker 1: We're talking about guys like Marquise Bell and brock hot
Speaker 1: and and Josh Scott.
Speaker 2: We're playing I mean, these are guys that are not
Speaker 2: overarching the quality of player you need to win a
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. And at the end of the day, when
Speaker 2: we went into this season, the one goal on the
Speaker 2: mind of this franchise was get back to an NFC
Speaker 2: championship and win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: And you that was the goal. If we were wrong
Speaker 1: in assessing that, that's fine. But we're fooling ourselves if
Speaker 1: we're saying, even.
Speaker 2: Without the injuries, this team was good enough to do
Speaker 2: that with what we've seen in the sample size we've
Speaker 2: seen in twenty ten.
Speaker 1: Right now, you don't have the horses. I put a
Speaker 1: lot on coaches. I do too.
Speaker 4: I mean to do because because there's a thing called development,
Speaker 4: player development, Like that's a real thing, and I'm sorry
Speaker 4: for fans out there, that thing that you just get
Speaker 4: the player that's just amazing all of a sudden just
Speaker 4: comes in, just magically, just shows up really to ball.
Speaker 4: There's a handful of those guys. There's a handful of
Speaker 4: those guys. A lot of most other guys need coaches
Speaker 4: to believe in them, invest in them and build them up.
Speaker 4: Most most players in his league, there's players in his league.
Speaker 4: They've been playing for fifteen plus years that this continue
Speaker 4: to have coaches pour into them and they're productive players.
Speaker 1: Well, you've got you've got an example of both.
Speaker 2: You've had Mike NCD who showed up day one and
Speaker 2: they were impact players. But then you turn around and
Speaker 2: you've got You've got guys like Jake Ferguson coached up
Speaker 2: and developed by Londa Wells. You've got Trayvon Diggs coached
Speaker 2: up and developed by Al Harris.
Speaker 1: You've got both guys.
Speaker 2: We've got to go. We're at the end of the show. Unfortunate,
Speaker 2: we run out of time every single time. We're having
Speaker 2: great conversation. When we come back tomorrow, we're turning the
Speaker 2: page quickly.
Speaker 1: It's not a funeral.
Speaker 2: We are going into the Washington Commanders preview tomorrow morning.
Speaker 2: Cowboys defense versus the Washington offense. How do they slow down?
Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels.
Speaker 1: Yes, cool.
Speaker 2: We've got Patrick Nosey Walker for Isaiah Stanback for Josh Rodriguez,
Speaker 2: Chris Beam in the back of Kyle Yomen saying so
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