WEBVTT - The Rebirth of Vinyl

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to tech Stuff, a production from iHeartRadio. Hey there,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host, Jonathan Strickland.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an executive producer with iHeartRadio and how the tech

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<v Speaker 1>are you? So Originally I was going to do a

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<v Speaker 1>tech stuff tidbits today to talk about something I just

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<v Speaker 1>think is cool, which is really the history of vinyl

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<v Speaker 1>record sales here in the United States. But it quickly

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<v Speaker 1>grew beyond tidbits size. No big surprise there, y'all know me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a chatty kathy at the best of times. But

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<v Speaker 1>I thought we could look at a technology that traces

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<v Speaker 1>its history to really the nineteenth century, the late eighteen hundreds,

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<v Speaker 1>and then evolved and grew gradually until it became a

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<v Speaker 1>dominant technology that waned in the nineteen eighties, really hit

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<v Speaker 1>its lowest point in the two thousands, and then starting

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<v Speaker 1>around two thousand and six and continuing for seventeen years,

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<v Speaker 1>has really made a comeback. So yeah, I am talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the vinyl record baby. Now. I love vinyl records.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a very small collection of vinyl records myself.

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<v Speaker 1>I know people who have huge libraries of vinyl I

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<v Speaker 1>am not that person. I would love to have a

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<v Speaker 1>huge library a vinyl but I just have a modest

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<v Speaker 1>collection couple one hundred records. Now, nothing in my collection

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<v Speaker 1>is rare, nothing is particularly special beyond the connection I

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<v Speaker 1>feel to the recording itself and the musical artists that

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<v Speaker 1>are represented. So it's really just my own small library

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<v Speaker 1>of records that I like to listen to on occasion.

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<v Speaker 1>And there is a ritual to listening to a vinyl

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<v Speaker 1>record because there's so many steps that are involved, physical

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<v Speaker 1>steps that you must take to listen to vinyl records.

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<v Speaker 1>And I truly believe that it's a combination of the

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<v Speaker 1>technology and the steps you have to take to use

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<v Speaker 1>that technology that create a very special situation that enhances

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<v Speaker 1>our connection to the music that's recorded on that medium. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>don't get me wrong, I am not one of the

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<v Speaker 1>true believer audio files out there who swears that a

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<v Speaker 1>vinyl record produces better sound than say, high quality digital

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<v Speaker 1>recording you would get on like a compact disc. There

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<v Speaker 1>are too many factors involved to make that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>sweeping declaration. There are those who will swear that analog

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<v Speaker 1>formats are just by themselves superior to digital formats. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it gets way more complicated than that. There's everything

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<v Speaker 1>from the quality of the recording master, of the type

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<v Speaker 1>of stylists that your tabletop uses, the kind of motor

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<v Speaker 1>setup that the turntable has that can all affect music

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<v Speaker 1>quality all on its own. And that's before you even

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<v Speaker 1>get to stuff like pre amps, amplifiers, speakers, cables, etc.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus hearing and listening that involves psychology, right, That involves

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<v Speaker 1>the gray matter in our noggins. So it's not just technology,

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<v Speaker 1>and that means that my experience is at least to

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<v Speaker 1>some degree unique to me, and that someone else who

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<v Speaker 1>is standing in the exact same spot where I stood

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<v Speaker 1>and listening to the exact same recording on the exact

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<v Speaker 1>same equipment is going to have a different experience than

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<v Speaker 1>I did. Now, it might not be vastly different, it

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<v Speaker 1>might not even be something that they can identify or communicate.

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<v Speaker 1>We might talk with each other and not find any differences.

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<v Speaker 1>But the fact is they're sperience will be at least

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<v Speaker 1>to some degree unique to them, and mine will be

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<v Speaker 1>unique to me. So it's just like west Lee said

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<v Speaker 1>in The Princess Bride, audio quality is subjective. Anyone who

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<v Speaker 1>says otherwise is selling something I might have paraphrased that,

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<v Speaker 1>So I am not here to say the vinyl records

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<v Speaker 1>provide the superior acoustic experience. I don't believe they necessarily do.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they can, depending upon all the other factors

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<v Speaker 1>that play here. But it's more complicated than just what

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<v Speaker 1>format is the music in? Is it in, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>analog versus digital? Is it on vinyl versus cassette versus

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<v Speaker 1>compact disc versus MP three. However, the activity of listening

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<v Speaker 1>on vinyl has other values beyond audio quality. So, for

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<v Speaker 1>one thing, a long playing vinyl an LP or an

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<v Speaker 1>extended play vinyl EP. Those are big, you know. They

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<v Speaker 1>can measure typically ten inches in diameter, that's twenty five centimeters,

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<v Speaker 1>but they can be up to twelve inches that's thirty centimeters.

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<v Speaker 1>And that means these records, these discs of vinyl, have

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<v Speaker 1>to fit into a sleeve and then a cover that's

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<v Speaker 1>even larger than the disc is right, and this actually

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<v Speaker 1>gives artists a fairly large canvas to work with when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to designing album cover art, which for a

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<v Speaker 1>while ended up becinding kind of a forgotten art form.

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<v Speaker 1>So part of the ritual of listening to vinyls, specifically

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<v Speaker 1>to LPs and EPs is admiring that cover art. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>some album cover art is, to put it, lightly bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of it is hilariously bad. So if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to laugh, you can do a Google image search for

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<v Speaker 1>the album Gary Getting down to Business. It's Gary gaar Y.

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<v Speaker 1>So it features Gary Solim on the cover, striking a

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<v Speaker 1>uh well, let's be kind. We'll call it a dramatic pose.

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<v Speaker 1>And it most certainly is a product of the late

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventies, and viewed through the modern lens, it will

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<v Speaker 1>look funny to you. Maybe you would want to recreate

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<v Speaker 1>it ironically, and maybe eventually it would become unironic and

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<v Speaker 1>that just becomes your thing. No judgment here. Maybe if

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<v Speaker 1>you're a Simpsons fan and you happen to love that

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<v Speaker 1>meme where Homer slowly walks backwards into some bushes in

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<v Speaker 1>order to disappear, you should look at the entree Amigos

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<v Speaker 1>by Camillo Sesto, because it sure does look like Camillo

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<v Speaker 1>served as the inspiration for that particular moment in the Simpsons.

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<v Speaker 1>He's standing halfway engulfed in a hedge, and I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you look at it, and if you've ever seen that

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<v Speaker 1>Simpsons mean. You immediately think this must be where they

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<v Speaker 1>got that image. Anyway, other album art can be amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>You could get into like the beef cake and cheesecake

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<v Speaker 1>covers of Molly Hatchett albums because they look like an

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<v Speaker 1>advertisement for like a cheeky Sword and Sorcery film or

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<v Speaker 1>a Dungeons and Dragons expansion set, or you know, something

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<v Speaker 1>like David Bowie's Aladdinsane album with the simple image of

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<v Speaker 1>David Bowie from the shoulders up with that lightning bolt

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<v Speaker 1>makeup decorating his face. The art becomes part of the experience.

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<v Speaker 1>It is augmenting what the entire album is about. But

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<v Speaker 1>beyond that, you've got the actual physical actions you have

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<v Speaker 1>to take. Right there is the action of removing the

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<v Speaker 1>record itself. So maybe you pull the sleeve out of

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<v Speaker 1>the cover and then you take the album out of

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<v Speaker 1>the sleeve. Maybe you're a rebel and you just try

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<v Speaker 1>to remove the album and leave the sleeve inside the cover.

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<v Speaker 1>Or maybe you're really living on the edge and you

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<v Speaker 1>lost the sleeve years ago and now you just put

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<v Speaker 1>a record directly into the unprotected cover. You do you, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you want to, if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>scratch up the vinyl. Oh okay, no, no, no, whatever you

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<v Speaker 1>do is fine. So you carry this vinyl long playing

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<v Speaker 1>album over to your turntable, and you gently place the

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<v Speaker 1>vinyl so that the whole lines up with the spindle

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<v Speaker 1>and settles down on the platform. You lift the tone

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<v Speaker 1>arm with the stylus on the end up. You position

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<v Speaker 1>that stylus at the outer edge of the LP. You

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<v Speaker 1>very softly and gently set it down, and you have

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<v Speaker 1>it catch on the groove of the LP, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you prepare to listen to some music. Depending on the album,

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<v Speaker 1>you might be taken on a journey, one where the

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<v Speaker 1>artists carefully planned out that sequence of songs, the order

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<v Speaker 1>of the tracks, specifically intending to inspire particular moods or reactions.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's even a concept album that tells a story,

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<v Speaker 1>either one that is overtly obvious or one that's just

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<v Speaker 1>merely hinted. At halfway through your journey, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>pause because the needle has reached the center of the album,

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<v Speaker 1>having followed a groove that spirals inward until it gets

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<v Speaker 1>to the end, and then you have to lift the

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<v Speaker 1>tone arm up, move it out of the way, flip

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<v Speaker 1>the vinyl record over, settle it back over onto the

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<v Speaker 1>spindle again, move the tone arm with the stylus to

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<v Speaker 1>the edge once more, and play side to and your

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<v Speaker 1>journey continues. It's like getting a little intermission in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of a play. Of course, some albums include more

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<v Speaker 1>than one disc, right. That means you're not really halfway

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<v Speaker 1>through when the stylust gets to the center. Maybe you're

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<v Speaker 1>a quarter through or an eight through, so you'll be

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<v Speaker 1>doing this a few times if you plan to listen

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<v Speaker 1>to this album all the way through. But it's all

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<v Speaker 1>part of that ritual. Now, there's no rule saying that

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<v Speaker 1>you have to listen to an entire side of an

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<v Speaker 1>album start to finish, or even the full album start beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no rule saying you have to do that. However,

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<v Speaker 1>it is a little more challenging to do something like

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<v Speaker 1>go to a specific track on the album if it's

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<v Speaker 1>not the first one on either side. You can do it,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not easy. There's also no easy way to

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<v Speaker 1>skip or to go back and listen to the same

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<v Speaker 1>track again. It's not convenient, and unless you have one

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<v Speaker 1>of the very few models that experimented with the idea,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not portable either, So I think it's fair to

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<v Speaker 1>say that vinyl doesn't lend itself to every type of

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<v Speaker 1>listening situation. It is not convenient, it is not portable,

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<v Speaker 1>it is not for every kind of listening environment, but

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<v Speaker 1>for a specific kind of listening it's fantastic at least

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<v Speaker 1>of the album's good. Now, I've done several episodes on

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<v Speaker 1>the history of recorded audio, so I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>repeat everything I've talked about before, but I do want

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<v Speaker 1>to give some context so that we understand why the

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<v Speaker 1>Vinyl albums are the way they are, because that experience

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<v Speaker 1>of sitting down to listen to a full album evolved

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<v Speaker 1>over time. It didn't just magically manifest. The actual medium

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<v Speaker 1>would shape things like music and collections of music. For example,

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<v Speaker 1>if you've ever wondered why most songs tend to be

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<v Speaker 1>between three to four minutes long, the restrictions of technology

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<v Speaker 1>helped determine that. Now, songs were already kind of naturally

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<v Speaker 1>falling into that length that was just sort of a

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable length for a song to be, but the medium

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<v Speaker 1>itself would create restrictions that meant that you really had

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<v Speaker 1>to conform to that length, and it kind of made

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<v Speaker 1>it a standard. The medium is why artists would create

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<v Speaker 1>collections of songs to release at the same time, and

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<v Speaker 1>why they typically do so in groups of ten or

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<v Speaker 1>twelve songs, or if you're an artist like Meatloaf, six

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<v Speaker 1>to eight songs, because your songs are all freakin' epics. Conversely,

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<v Speaker 1>the Ramones first album had fourteen tracks, seven to a side.

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<v Speaker 1>One of those tracks only lasted about a minute and

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<v Speaker 1>a half, so your mileage may vary. But the medium

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<v Speaker 1>shaped all of this and created the trends that we

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<v Speaker 1>see carried through to this day. I would say long

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<v Speaker 1>after the medium itself had sort of faded away, we

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<v Speaker 1>saw those trends continued. However, I can't say that it

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<v Speaker 1>faded away because, as I mentioned at the top of

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<v Speaker 1>this episode, for the last seventeen years, it's been making

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<v Speaker 1>a serious comeback, all right. So let's get into a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty simple early history lesson of the LP in particular. So,

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<v Speaker 1>the precursor to flat discs recorded discs were wax cylinders.

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<v Speaker 1>There're also ten cylinders tin, but wax cylinders became kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the standard. These could hold recorded audio, but they

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<v Speaker 1>were not easy to store. The physical cylinders. You had

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<v Speaker 1>to have like a box, and you had to be

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<v Speaker 1>very gentle with them. They all would wear out relatively

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<v Speaker 1>quickly because the wax would start to degrade. With each playback,

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<v Speaker 1>the stylist being used would essentially be carving more into

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<v Speaker 1>the groove, so each successive playback would be a little

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<v Speaker 1>worse than the one that came before it. In the

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<v Speaker 1>late nineteenth century, an inventor named Emil Berliner came up

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<v Speaker 1>with the idea of recording audio to a flat disc

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<v Speaker 1>as opposed to a cylinder, and he figured that if

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<v Speaker 1>he could devise a way to do that, it might

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<v Speaker 1>be possible to create a means of mass production, which

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't really possible with the cylinders of the time. See,

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<v Speaker 1>cylinders were using devices that could both record and playback audio.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you could create a way of just recording

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<v Speaker 1>audio to a blank, you know, a disc that has

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<v Speaker 1>nothing on it, you could do that much more quickly

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<v Speaker 1>than you would recording in real time to a wax cylinder,

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<v Speaker 1>so that you could playback in real time later on.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be something that would allow business to scale

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<v Speaker 1>and become something more than just a curiosity for the wealthy.

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<v Speaker 1>So he got to work his first version used a

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<v Speaker 1>disc made of zinc, coded in beeswax and gasoline, and

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<v Speaker 1>then put through an etching process where an acidic compound

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<v Speaker 1>etched away at a groove that was made in the disc.

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<v Speaker 1>And I talk about this more in other shows that

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<v Speaker 1>go into the detail of the history of vinyl and

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<v Speaker 1>recorded audio, so I'm not gonna retread all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>But these discs could only record to one side at

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<v Speaker 1>first due to the process that Berliner was using at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, so there wasn't a double sighted album. He

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<v Speaker 1>received a patent for his invention in eighteen eighty seven. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the zinc discs were not meant to be the final product. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>these served as a master recording. So Berlenner would then

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<v Speaker 1>electroplate this disc to create a negative, so instead of

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<v Speaker 1>there being grooves, you would get ridgids where the grooves

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<v Speaker 1>had been and the could be used as a stamp

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<v Speaker 1>and you could use it to stamp blanks to imprint

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<v Speaker 1>the grooves into the blanks. Now these blanks would need

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<v Speaker 1>to be pliable for the stamping process, but then strong

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<v Speaker 1>enough to withstand playback. Initially, Berliner tried celluloid, which could

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<v Speaker 1>make a really good, you know recording, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>far too delicate and it would wear out very very quickly,

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<v Speaker 1>so that was out. Uh, there were some celluloid records produced.

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<v Speaker 1>There are a few that still exist, but celluloid itself

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<v Speaker 1>is a very delicate material and it can rot over time,

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<v Speaker 1>so there are very very few existing celluloid records today. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're just getting started. When we come back, i'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>more about the development of the record disc all right. Back,

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<v Speaker 1>we left off with Berlinner working with celluloid and deciding

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<v Speaker 1>that was not a very good material to use for records. Next,

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<v Speaker 1>he tried hard rubber, and this would involve heating the

0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:15.120
<v Speaker 1>rubber blanks to temperature so that they became soft enough

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<v Speaker 1>to stamp, and at first he felt these were far

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<v Speaker 1>superior to celluloid because they could hold up to a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more abuse. They were almost unbreakable being made out

0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:28.120
<v Speaker 1>of hard rubber. But the trouble was quality controlled because

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes the stamps didn't leave a perfect imprint, so you

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<v Speaker 1>could end up with blank spots where there should be

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<v Speaker 1>a groove, and that meant that once the stylus hit

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<v Speaker 1>the blank spot, it could just slide across the record,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, it was no good it just wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>reliable enough to be able to produce en mass without

0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:50.960
<v Speaker 1>lots of potential problems. So Berlinner's solution was to work

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<v Speaker 1>with a company called Duranoid, which made a shell ac

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<v Speaker 1>compound for coding electrical parts. Shell Ac is a resin

0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:03.600
<v Speaker 1>and it comes from big so shell ack is actually

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<v Speaker 1>it's extracted from the secretions made by a lack bug,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's used for all sorts of stuff like including

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<v Speaker 1>glaze on candies and pills. It also has insulator properties,

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<v Speaker 1>so it made it great for coding electric components. You

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<v Speaker 1>could insulate that so that you're not going to get

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<v Speaker 1>shocked when you handle the things. And then there's the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that it's really good at holding a shape, though

0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:31.440
<v Speaker 1>it can be brittle. So Berlinner felt that the shellac

0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:34.320
<v Speaker 1>coded records were superior to the hard rubber ones. The

0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:38.160
<v Speaker 1>stamping process was far more reliable, and so Berliner switched

0:17:38.200 --> 0:17:42.000
<v Speaker 1>to shellac by the late nineteenth century. Right before the

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<v Speaker 1>turn of the twentieth century, Berlinner and some investors were

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<v Speaker 1>creating companies several over the years, all with the name

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<v Speaker 1>Gramophone incorporated in them. That was kind of the name

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<v Speaker 1>of Berliner's technology, but while the medium had evolved, the

0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:59.360
<v Speaker 1>equipment used to play the media was slower to change.

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<v Speaker 1>So early machines used hand cranked systems, so that meant

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<v Speaker 1>you had to sit there and you had to turn

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<v Speaker 1>a crank in order to listen to your recorded album.

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<v Speaker 1>The ideal sweet spot for speed would be to crank

0:18:13.480 --> 0:18:16.119
<v Speaker 1>at a speed fast enough to get seventy to eighty

0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:20.639
<v Speaker 1>revolutions per minute, because that's where the recorded audio on

0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:23.800
<v Speaker 1>shell act discs sounded the best. But if you crank

0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:26.280
<v Speaker 1>too quickly, you get chipmunks. If you crank too slowly,

0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:30.960
<v Speaker 1>everyone becomes a basso profundo singer like Patrick Page in

0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Haities Town. And if you're unsteady then you get a

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<v Speaker 1>real warblee playback, and it wasn't ideal. So there's an

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<v Speaker 1>era of innovation then in creating a motorized turntable that

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<v Speaker 1>is both strong enough to work with the heavy tone

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<v Speaker 1>arms of the time, because back then the tone arms

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<v Speaker 1>put a lot of pressure on discs. That's why they

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<v Speaker 1>would wear out so quickly if they weren't made of

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<v Speaker 1>durable material. And the stylus was made out of steel,

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<v Speaker 1>so you really did have to have something that could

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<v Speaker 1>withstand some damage and some torture in order to be

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<v Speaker 1>a long lasting product. So the motorized movement need to

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<v Speaker 1>be consistent and smooth and strong enough to provide good

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<v Speaker 1>audio quality, and that took a while. Now, another thing

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<v Speaker 1>that helped shape both the medium itself and the music

0:19:18.480 --> 0:19:21.879
<v Speaker 1>upon it was the rotational speed of these motors and

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<v Speaker 1>the design of the albums themselves. So if you designed

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<v Speaker 1>an album to be played at seventy eight rotations per minute,

0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:32.720
<v Speaker 1>you would get superior sound quality, but the stylist would

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<v Speaker 1>travel the groove pretty quickly, right, because it's rotating seventy

0:19:37.280 --> 0:19:40.480
<v Speaker 1>eight times every single minute. So things would sound good,

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<v Speaker 1>but you could not store very much music per disc

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<v Speaker 1>side because the groove for a piece being played back

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<v Speaker 1>at seventy eight rpm would have to be longer than

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<v Speaker 1>one played at a slower speed. So if you designed

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<v Speaker 1>the disc so that the recording was meant to be

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<v Speaker 1>played back at a slower speed, like at forty five

0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:01.440
<v Speaker 1>rotations per minute, or even thirty three and one third

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<v Speaker 1>rotations per minute, you could store more audio on the

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<v Speaker 1>side of a disc, but the quality of that audio

0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:11.680
<v Speaker 1>would suffer. So even in the days of hand cranking,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, the ideal rotational speed was somewhere in

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<v Speaker 1>the seventy to eighty rpm range. So how did the

0:20:17.240 --> 0:20:21.320
<v Speaker 1>music industry settle on the standard speeds? Well, seventy eight

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<v Speaker 1>rpm is very convenient when you start looking at things

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<v Speaker 1>like gear ratios. So the motors that they were using

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<v Speaker 1>to drive the turntables had their own rotational speed thirty

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<v Speaker 1>six hundred revolutions per minute. So by using a gear

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<v Speaker 1>system you could create a gear ratio of say forty

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<v Speaker 1>six to one and forty six to one ratio gear

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<v Speaker 1>would convert that thirty six hundred revolutions per minute down

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<v Speaker 1>to seventy eight technically seventy eight point twenty six. So

0:20:52.760 --> 0:20:57.040
<v Speaker 1>the turntable speed was set largely because of the actual

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<v Speaker 1>limitations of the motor, the fact that it was an

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<v Speaker 1>thirty six hundred revolutions per minute, and you know, creating

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<v Speaker 1>a ratio that would allow you to step that down

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<v Speaker 1>to a more manageable speed for the turntable itself meant

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<v Speaker 1>that you could go down to seventy eight, which again

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<v Speaker 1>was in that sweet spot between seventy and eighty rpm.

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<v Speaker 1>So sort of the stars aligned for this particular type

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<v Speaker 1>of implementation, but other gear ratios could produce the speeds

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<v Speaker 1>of forty five rpm or thirty three and a third

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<v Speaker 1>rpm without having to change the type of motor that

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<v Speaker 1>you were using to drive the whole darn thing. Now

0:21:32.680 --> 0:21:35.359
<v Speaker 1>these days, you could have had a variable speed motor

0:21:35.880 --> 0:21:41.440
<v Speaker 1>and you could completely change the technology of pressed records entirely.

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<v Speaker 1>But now it's kind of a legacy system, so no

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<v Speaker 1>one has really bothered. A couple people have tried, but

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<v Speaker 1>only small experiments. So the speed of the motor sort

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<v Speaker 1>of determined everything else. So seventy eight rpm became the

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<v Speaker 1>preferred format for early records, and even with a ten

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<v Speaker 1>inch disc, that meant you could store about three minutes

0:22:03.840 --> 0:22:06.840
<v Speaker 1>of audio per side. And again, while many songs already

0:22:06.880 --> 0:22:10.240
<v Speaker 1>fell into that length restriction, the medium really helped cement

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<v Speaker 1>it as the standard song length. It was a limit

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<v Speaker 1>of the medium. So if you wanted to sell a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of records and have people go gaga over your music,

0:22:19.119 --> 0:22:21.680
<v Speaker 1>you really wanted it to be high quality stuff, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, not sacrifice the sound quality the fidelity of

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<v Speaker 1>your recording, but you would sacrifice how long your track

0:22:29.920 --> 0:22:32.840
<v Speaker 1>could be because you were limited to about three minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>And think about that, these ten inch discs were singles.

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<v Speaker 1>They could usually hold a single track per side, which

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty big disc to hold one song is pretty wild,

0:22:44.440 --> 0:22:47.880
<v Speaker 1>and it would dominate for decades, well into the nineteen fifties.

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<v Speaker 1>So now we're going to do a quick jump ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>So others at the time of Berliner were trying to

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<v Speaker 1>come up with alternatives because they wanted to get into

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<v Speaker 1>this market, but they didn't want to have to pay

0:22:57.600 --> 0:23:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Berliner for his technology. So like Edison was one of those,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were trying to come up with alternatives to

0:23:05.280 --> 0:23:09.480
<v Speaker 1>shell Act too and really to compete with the Gramophone Company.

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<v Speaker 1>But the alternatives were often more expensive, so they had

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<v Speaker 1>very little effect in breaking into the market. People didn't

0:23:16.320 --> 0:23:18.720
<v Speaker 1>want to have to buy new equipment and spend even

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<v Speaker 1>more money to purchase the albums themselves. So even as

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<v Speaker 1>early as the nineteen twenties you had people experimenting with

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<v Speaker 1>plastic and by the nineteen thirties the technology was ready

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<v Speaker 1>to go in some early implementations, but there were some problems.

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<v Speaker 1>One was that companies were making boneheaded mistakes, but another

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<v Speaker 1>was just that the economy in general was not good.

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<v Speaker 1>Just like today, we were in a really bad time

0:23:46.359 --> 0:23:50.600
<v Speaker 1>of economic uncertainty. In the nineteen thirties, the US was

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<v Speaker 1>in the Great Depression and the cost of a record player,

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<v Speaker 1>and then on top of that the cost of records

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<v Speaker 1>to play on the record player. That was a luxury

0:23:59.080 --> 0:24:02.359
<v Speaker 1>that very few were willing to pursue. A radio set,

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<v Speaker 1>while also being very expensive, at least had the advantage

0:24:05.920 --> 0:24:09.280
<v Speaker 1>of providing the content for free, well sort of free,

0:24:09.480 --> 0:24:12.640
<v Speaker 1>like my show, the content was sponsored by companies paying

0:24:12.680 --> 0:24:14.920
<v Speaker 1>to have their products and services highlighted on the air,

0:24:15.240 --> 0:24:18.439
<v Speaker 1>so not really free, but free to the consumer. The

0:24:18.520 --> 0:24:22.479
<v Speaker 1>plastic records were still a thing behind the scenes, however,

0:24:22.640 --> 0:24:25.640
<v Speaker 1>DJs at radio stations were using them, but there wasn't

0:24:25.720 --> 0:24:30.040
<v Speaker 1>much of a consumer market for vinyl or plastic records

0:24:30.520 --> 0:24:33.080
<v Speaker 1>until the end of World War two. Partly that was

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<v Speaker 1>because the war had put high demands on various materials

0:24:36.080 --> 0:24:40.080
<v Speaker 1>and manufacturing facilities, which prioritized war efforts over stuff like,

0:24:40.119 --> 0:24:44.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, civilian comforts and luxuries, which is understandable. But

0:24:44.800 --> 0:24:48.120
<v Speaker 1>after the war things would change. In nineteen forty eight,

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<v Speaker 1>an invention from doctor Peter Goldmark would make a huge

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<v Speaker 1>impact on the recording industry. So Goldmark devised a way

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<v Speaker 1>to create microgrooves on vinyl, a type of of PVC plastic,

0:25:02.040 --> 0:25:05.880
<v Speaker 1>and these microgrooves allowed for a couple of really big advantages.

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<v Speaker 1>It was possible to create long playing or LP albums,

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<v Speaker 1>and you could reduce the rotational speed to thirty three

0:25:13.520 --> 0:25:17.320
<v Speaker 1>and one third rotations per minute without an appreciable dip

0:25:17.520 --> 0:25:21.280
<v Speaker 1>in audio quality. So that meant that a disc could

0:25:21.280 --> 0:25:24.520
<v Speaker 1>hold way more than three to five minutes per side.

0:25:24.560 --> 0:25:27.320
<v Speaker 1>Now it could hold more than twenty minutes per side,

0:25:27.680 --> 0:25:30.800
<v Speaker 1>So you could put way more content on a single disc,

0:25:31.000 --> 0:25:35.880
<v Speaker 1>particularly a twelve inch disc, than you could in the past. Now,

0:25:36.000 --> 0:25:39.399
<v Speaker 1>RCA Victor, which had attempted to introduce the thirty three

0:25:39.440 --> 0:25:43.560
<v Speaker 1>and a third album more than a decade earlier that

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<v Speaker 1>when I was talking about there being companies that made

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<v Speaker 1>boneheaded decisions, I was referencing RCA Victor at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a massive flop when they tried to introduce

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<v Speaker 1>it in the thirties. They decided in the late forties

0:25:56.760 --> 0:25:59.720
<v Speaker 1>to challenge gold Mark and Columbia Records, which was the

0:25:59.720 --> 0:26:03.720
<v Speaker 1>comp that was making use of Goldmark's technology. So RCA

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<v Speaker 1>introduced the seven inch record disc, designed to be played

0:26:08.119 --> 0:26:12.000
<v Speaker 1>at forty five revolutions per minute, so the forty five

0:26:12.280 --> 0:26:15.360
<v Speaker 1>can hold about as much music as the seventy eight

0:26:15.800 --> 0:26:19.040
<v Speaker 1>ten inch discs could with the same level of fidelity,

0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:23.800
<v Speaker 1>so they were arguing you're giving the maximum fidelity performance

0:26:24.480 --> 0:26:28.280
<v Speaker 1>at a smaller form factor, so it's more convenient, which

0:26:28.320 --> 0:26:32.640
<v Speaker 1>was debatable. Both of those were debatable, but these two

0:26:32.720 --> 0:26:35.720
<v Speaker 1>form factors, the thirty three and a third LP and

0:26:35.800 --> 0:26:39.840
<v Speaker 1>the forty five seven inch disc were incompatible with one another,

0:26:40.440 --> 0:26:44.399
<v Speaker 1>so obviously they required different speeds rotational speeds to play

0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:48.080
<v Speaker 1>back the music appropriately, although if you've ever played a

0:26:48.200 --> 0:26:50.760
<v Speaker 1>thirty three and a third record on the forty five

0:26:50.840 --> 0:26:53.760
<v Speaker 1>setting or vice versa, you can get some pretty fun

0:26:54.480 --> 0:26:57.200
<v Speaker 1>experiences out of that, like you can you can turn

0:26:57.240 --> 0:27:00.240
<v Speaker 1>a long playing album into a Chipmunk's album, or a

0:27:00.400 --> 0:27:03.520
<v Speaker 1>forty five you can turn into something that's really creepy.

0:27:04.160 --> 0:27:07.520
<v Speaker 1>The songs Staying Alive played on a forty five but

0:27:07.680 --> 0:27:11.479
<v Speaker 1>at thirty three and a third RPMs becomes a horror

0:27:11.520 --> 0:27:16.960
<v Speaker 1>movie song. It's fantastic anyway. RCA Victor's album form also

0:27:17.040 --> 0:27:20.119
<v Speaker 1>had a larger hole in the center and you had

0:27:20.119 --> 0:27:23.600
<v Speaker 1>to use a thicker spindle or later an adapter, and

0:27:23.640 --> 0:27:26.560
<v Speaker 1>this was probably a decision to make the two formats

0:27:26.640 --> 0:27:31.040
<v Speaker 1>even more incompatible, like it was trying to make sure

0:27:31.080 --> 0:27:33.480
<v Speaker 1>that the two could not be played on the same machine,

0:27:34.080 --> 0:27:36.520
<v Speaker 1>and this set up a pretty cutthroat competition in the

0:27:36.560 --> 0:27:40.080
<v Speaker 1>market for a couple of years, with like each company

0:27:40.160 --> 0:27:43.480
<v Speaker 1>trying to muscle the other one out. But by nineteen fifty,

0:27:43.560 --> 0:27:47.639
<v Speaker 1>RCA grudgingly began to license Colombia's system and began to

0:27:47.680 --> 0:27:50.760
<v Speaker 1>produce its own thirty three and a third albums because

0:27:50.800 --> 0:27:52.840
<v Speaker 1>the forty fives were really only good for singles that

0:27:52.880 --> 0:27:55.520
<v Speaker 1>you couldn't sell a full album on forty fives. You

0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:58.600
<v Speaker 1>would have to sell you know, five or six forty

0:27:58.600 --> 0:28:03.160
<v Speaker 1>fives per album because they just couldn't hold that much

0:28:03.240 --> 0:28:07.399
<v Speaker 1>music per side. Columbia, for its part, began to produce

0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:11.240
<v Speaker 1>forty five albums in order to push out singles because again,

0:28:11.280 --> 0:28:14.000
<v Speaker 1>that form factor was great for singles and B sides,

0:28:14.720 --> 0:28:17.400
<v Speaker 1>but not so great if you wanted to do an LP.

0:28:17.560 --> 0:28:21.639
<v Speaker 1>So both companies, essentially, after fighting each other fiercely for

0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:28.200
<v Speaker 1>a couple of years, begrudgingly adopted the other companies formats. Now,

0:28:28.240 --> 0:28:31.320
<v Speaker 1>if you have an older turntable or perhaps one of

0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 1>the boutique kinds made for audio files. You may actually

0:28:35.040 --> 0:28:38.200
<v Speaker 1>have three settings for rotation speeds, the thirty three and

0:28:38.240 --> 0:28:41.400
<v Speaker 1>a third, the forty five, and the seventy eight, but

0:28:41.520 --> 0:28:44.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot of tables ditched seventy eight entirely because the

0:28:44.760 --> 0:28:48.880
<v Speaker 1>industry pretty much did the same thing back in nineteen fifty.

0:28:49.080 --> 0:28:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Most of the records produced after nineteen fifty were firmly

0:28:53.560 --> 0:28:56.520
<v Speaker 1>either in the thirty three in a third LP camp

0:28:57.080 --> 0:29:00.680
<v Speaker 1>or the forty five single and B side camp. The

0:29:00.720 --> 0:29:05.160
<v Speaker 1>world began to embrace vinyl, and sales figures climbed year

0:29:05.200 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 1>over year, and according to the RIAA AKA the Recording

0:29:10.280 --> 0:29:14.040
<v Speaker 1>Industry Association of America, which in other episodes of tech

0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Stuff serves as the villain of the piece, vinyl sales

0:29:17.920 --> 0:29:21.120
<v Speaker 1>in the United States peaked in nineteen seventy eight, So

0:29:21.160 --> 0:29:24.240
<v Speaker 1>that year people bought more than three hundred and forty

0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:29.080
<v Speaker 1>million LPs or EPs so long playing albums or extended

0:29:29.080 --> 0:29:32.440
<v Speaker 1>playing albums in the United States. These made up nearly

0:29:32.480 --> 0:29:36.440
<v Speaker 1>half of all music format sales across every format, and

0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:40.280
<v Speaker 1>they were the dominant format of the time. Now, I

0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:43.240
<v Speaker 1>was born in the seventies, and that might explain why

0:29:43.240 --> 0:29:46.560
<v Speaker 1>I have such a fondness for the vinyl format. Some

0:29:46.600 --> 0:29:49.560
<v Speaker 1>of my earliest memories involved listening to records with my family.

0:29:50.200 --> 0:29:53.360
<v Speaker 1>My parents had tons of vinyl record albums. I remember

0:29:53.400 --> 0:29:57.640
<v Speaker 1>listening to the Beatles and John Denver and Linda Ronstat.

0:29:58.200 --> 0:30:01.280
<v Speaker 1>I also remember listening to comedy record records from groups

0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:05.280
<v Speaker 1>like Beyond the Fringe, The Fire Signed Theater, and Monty Python,

0:30:05.680 --> 0:30:08.880
<v Speaker 1>and those experiences were great. But something was about to

0:30:08.920 --> 0:30:13.000
<v Speaker 1>happen that would be another massive change to the music industry.

0:30:13.520 --> 0:30:16.600
<v Speaker 1>I'll explain more after we come back from this quick break.

0:30:26.360 --> 0:30:29.640
<v Speaker 1>All right, we're back. So what happened? Why did we

0:30:29.720 --> 0:30:34.560
<v Speaker 1>go from nineteen seventy eight to a record breaking sales

0:30:34.640 --> 0:30:38.680
<v Speaker 1>figure for vinyl to the decline of the format. Well,

0:30:38.720 --> 0:30:42.200
<v Speaker 1>in nineteen seventy nine, Sony introduced a technology that would

0:30:42.240 --> 0:30:46.040
<v Speaker 1>create a sea change in the music industry. That technology

0:30:46.600 --> 0:30:51.760
<v Speaker 1>was the Humble Walkman, a portable cassette player. So music

0:30:51.760 --> 0:30:55.000
<v Speaker 1>cassettes had been around for more than a decade. In fact,

0:30:55.040 --> 0:30:58.360
<v Speaker 1>they first hit the scene in the nineteen sixties, but

0:30:58.440 --> 0:31:02.480
<v Speaker 1>for many years cassette played were these really big stereo

0:31:02.600 --> 0:31:07.080
<v Speaker 1>components that you would buy. They were expensive, they were bulky,

0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:09.040
<v Speaker 1>and they took up a lot of space and you

0:31:09.080 --> 0:31:12.640
<v Speaker 1>had to connect them to other components in your stereo system,

0:31:12.960 --> 0:31:15.640
<v Speaker 1>and if you already had a record player, you might

0:31:15.680 --> 0:31:18.560
<v Speaker 1>feel like there's not much point getting a cassette player.

0:31:19.400 --> 0:31:23.360
<v Speaker 1>Some cassette formats, like the infamous eight track, saw a

0:31:23.480 --> 0:31:28.600
<v Speaker 1>brief spotlight moment due to being incorporated into vehicle audio systems,

0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:30.719
<v Speaker 1>so then you could take your music on the go

0:31:30.840 --> 0:31:35.400
<v Speaker 1>with you. But the humble audio cassette would really grab

0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:39.320
<v Speaker 1>the baton in the late seventies and truly take off

0:31:39.400 --> 0:31:42.760
<v Speaker 1>in the nineteen eighties. So the cassette and the Walkman

0:31:43.120 --> 0:31:46.560
<v Speaker 1>and later stuff like in dash entertainment systems and cars

0:31:47.200 --> 0:31:51.000
<v Speaker 1>offered up portability, which was something that vinyl couldn't really do,

0:31:51.200 --> 0:31:54.600
<v Speaker 1>despite a few efforts that aren't really noteworthy enough to

0:31:54.680 --> 0:31:57.520
<v Speaker 1>dwell on. And as we would see again and again,

0:31:58.160 --> 0:32:03.160
<v Speaker 1>things like accessibility, portability, and convenience can matter just as

0:32:03.240 --> 0:32:07.200
<v Speaker 1>much or perhaps even more than something like audio quality.

0:32:07.720 --> 0:32:10.560
<v Speaker 1>So while you might get an irritating hiss in the

0:32:10.600 --> 0:32:14.880
<v Speaker 1>background of your music that's on cassette, particularly if you're

0:32:14.960 --> 0:32:17.840
<v Speaker 1>using something like really cheap headphones, well you could still

0:32:17.880 --> 0:32:21.280
<v Speaker 1>listen on the go, so that was an advantage. It

0:32:21.480 --> 0:32:24.280
<v Speaker 1>still wasn't super easy to navigate to a specific track.

0:32:24.800 --> 0:32:27.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm reminded of all the times where as a kid,

0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:30.480
<v Speaker 1>I was writing those rewind and fast forward buttons like

0:32:30.520 --> 0:32:32.280
<v Speaker 1>a maniac, trying to get to the beginning of a

0:32:32.280 --> 0:32:35.520
<v Speaker 1>specific song in the middle of one side of a cassette.

0:32:35.720 --> 0:32:37.320
<v Speaker 1>But the fact that you could take your music on

0:32:37.360 --> 0:32:40.560
<v Speaker 1>the go changed everything. It only took a few years

0:32:40.840 --> 0:32:43.920
<v Speaker 1>for cassette sales to not only make a dent in

0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:48.200
<v Speaker 1>Vinyl's figures, but to actually out sell vinyl itself. So

0:32:48.320 --> 0:32:52.200
<v Speaker 1>depending upon your source, cassettes overtook vinyl sales somewhere around

0:32:52.240 --> 0:32:56.080
<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty three or nineteen eighty four. I've seen different

0:32:56.160 --> 0:33:00.720
<v Speaker 1>citations for that. So the music industry was actually really

0:33:00.760 --> 0:33:03.720
<v Speaker 1>worried about cassettes at first because they opened up the

0:33:03.720 --> 0:33:06.200
<v Speaker 1>possibility for piracy, something that you didn't have to really

0:33:06.200 --> 0:33:09.720
<v Speaker 1>worry about with vinyl. But cassettes were different, and the

0:33:09.800 --> 0:33:14.479
<v Speaker 1>industry would remain worried about piracy for the foreseeable future

0:33:14.920 --> 0:33:17.960
<v Speaker 1>because every time there's a media shift that becomes one

0:33:18.000 --> 0:33:20.520
<v Speaker 1>of the big concerns. In fact, there are a lot

0:33:20.520 --> 0:33:24.280
<v Speaker 1>of times where the music industry resists change, and that

0:33:24.400 --> 0:33:29.960
<v Speaker 1>makes adoption much slower because of this fear of piracy. However,

0:33:30.280 --> 0:33:33.440
<v Speaker 1>the industry eventually came around to cassettes because they realized

0:33:33.480 --> 0:33:35.880
<v Speaker 1>they could do something that they couldn't do before, which

0:33:35.960 --> 0:33:39.120
<v Speaker 1>was they had the chance to sell the exact same

0:33:39.280 --> 0:33:43.560
<v Speaker 1>album on two different formats, potentially to the same customer.

0:33:44.200 --> 0:33:49.120
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes they would include exclusive content on one format or

0:33:49.160 --> 0:33:52.680
<v Speaker 1>the other or both, where you could buy the album

0:33:52.800 --> 0:33:56.640
<v Speaker 1>on vinyl and you'll get one track, you buy it

0:33:56.680 --> 0:33:59.160
<v Speaker 1>on cassette and you get a different track, And so

0:33:59.320 --> 0:34:01.640
<v Speaker 1>for some people were super fans, they would end up

0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:04.760
<v Speaker 1>buying both formats because they wanted to be a completionist.

0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:07.600
<v Speaker 1>So there were ways for the music industry to make

0:34:07.640 --> 0:34:13.360
<v Speaker 1>even more money by introducing this new format. But another

0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:15.840
<v Speaker 1>big blow to vinyl sales was right around the corner.

0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:19.520
<v Speaker 1>So cassettes dominated most of the eighties, but the technology

0:34:19.520 --> 0:34:22.560
<v Speaker 1>of the compact disc, which actually traces its history to

0:34:22.600 --> 0:34:26.719
<v Speaker 1>the seventies, would leave both cassettes and vinyl behind, so

0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:30.520
<v Speaker 1>vinyl sales took another blow. Cassettes would be hit even

0:34:30.560 --> 0:34:33.320
<v Speaker 1>harder considering how far they had to fall because vinyl

0:34:33.360 --> 0:34:37.200
<v Speaker 1>had already fallen due to cassettes, but vinyl was able

0:34:37.239 --> 0:34:41.920
<v Speaker 1>to hang on it increasingly took a smaller part, especially

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:45.560
<v Speaker 1>for the consumer side of media, but it didn't die.

0:34:46.120 --> 0:34:49.520
<v Speaker 1>Remember when I said that vinyl LPs hit their sales

0:34:49.520 --> 0:34:53.000
<v Speaker 1>peak in nineteen seventy eight, that was specifically for America.

0:34:53.080 --> 0:34:56.280
<v Speaker 1>If we look at global sales figures, the peak actually

0:34:56.320 --> 0:34:59.040
<v Speaker 1>happened a little bit later. And we have to turn

0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:03.160
<v Speaker 1>to the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry, which tracks

0:35:03.160 --> 0:35:06.359
<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff, and it says the peak of

0:35:06.560 --> 0:35:11.680
<v Speaker 1>vinyl LP sales globally was in nineteen eighty one, and

0:35:11.719 --> 0:35:17.040
<v Speaker 1>that was one point one billion units sold worldwide. Now,

0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:21.160
<v Speaker 1>that same group says that the lowest point for vinyl

0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:25.440
<v Speaker 1>sales worldwide was two thousand and six. That's when just

0:35:25.760 --> 0:35:30.520
<v Speaker 1>three million LPs were sold globally. So think about that.

0:35:31.200 --> 0:35:35.000
<v Speaker 1>A peak of one point one billion units and a

0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:41.040
<v Speaker 1>low of three million. That's a huge drop. However, since

0:35:41.080 --> 0:35:44.600
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and six, the vinyl industry has been on

0:35:44.719 --> 0:35:48.440
<v Speaker 1>an upward climb, and CD sales, while you know they

0:35:48.440 --> 0:35:52.319
<v Speaker 1>were the dominant format for the two thousands, really have

0:35:52.400 --> 0:35:55.920
<v Speaker 1>been taking a hit, partly because of a new means

0:35:55.920 --> 0:35:59.560
<v Speaker 1>of music consumption streaming. Once that rose to prominence, that

0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:02.839
<v Speaker 1>really to take a bite out of CD sales, and

0:36:03.080 --> 0:36:06.600
<v Speaker 1>two years ago, in twenty twenty one, something really interesting happened.

0:36:06.600 --> 0:36:10.000
<v Speaker 1>For the first time since the CD took the crown.

0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:16.520
<v Speaker 1>Vinyl sales ended up outpacing CD sales. Yeah, in twenty

0:36:16.560 --> 0:36:20.120
<v Speaker 1>twenty one, more people bought albums on vinyl than they

0:36:20.160 --> 0:36:23.840
<v Speaker 1>did on CD, and that remained true last year in

0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:27.000
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty two. So for two years vinyl has been

0:36:27.040 --> 0:36:31.800
<v Speaker 1>out selling CDs. So last year the number of vinyl

0:36:31.800 --> 0:36:35.640
<v Speaker 1>albums sold in the United States was around forty three

0:36:35.719 --> 0:36:39.799
<v Speaker 1>point four to six million units, So forty three point

0:36:39.800 --> 0:36:42.480
<v Speaker 1>four to six million in the US alone compared to

0:36:42.680 --> 0:36:47.000
<v Speaker 1>three million units sold globally in two thousand and six. Now,

0:36:47.040 --> 0:36:53.840
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't say vinyl is dominating, but it's definitely not dead.

0:36:54.160 --> 0:36:56.440
<v Speaker 1>It's not nearly as dead as folks thought it was

0:36:56.520 --> 0:37:00.400
<v Speaker 1>back in the mid two thousands. But then, you know,

0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:03.840
<v Speaker 1>maybe I should say that it is dominating because according

0:37:03.960 --> 0:37:08.360
<v Speaker 1>to Illuminate, forty three point four percent of all albums

0:37:08.400 --> 0:37:11.839
<v Speaker 1>purchased in the US last year were on vinyl. Now

0:37:11.840 --> 0:37:17.040
<v Speaker 1>that includes not just physical media, it also includes digital formats.

0:37:17.120 --> 0:37:20.560
<v Speaker 1>So this includes everything from MP three's to compact discs,

0:37:20.600 --> 0:37:24.719
<v Speaker 1>to cassettes to I don't know, wax cylinders. Forty three

0:37:24.760 --> 0:37:29.080
<v Speaker 1>point four percent of all sales were on vinyl. When

0:37:29.120 --> 0:37:32.359
<v Speaker 1>you look at just the physical formats, well, vinyl made

0:37:32.400 --> 0:37:35.760
<v Speaker 1>up fifty four point four percent of all albums sales

0:37:35.840 --> 0:37:39.160
<v Speaker 1>last year. They really did dominate. But these figures aren't

0:37:39.200 --> 0:37:42.239
<v Speaker 1>really the ones that truly blow my mind. I mean, yes,

0:37:42.560 --> 0:37:44.799
<v Speaker 1>they are impressive, and the fact that vinyl has made

0:37:44.840 --> 0:37:48.239
<v Speaker 1>such a comeback is amazing, especially for someone who was,

0:37:48.680 --> 0:37:51.839
<v Speaker 1>you know, alive when Vinyl hit its peak and then

0:37:52.000 --> 0:37:54.800
<v Speaker 1>also alive when Vinyl hit its low. It's amazing to

0:37:54.840 --> 0:37:58.000
<v Speaker 1>see it have a comeback. But no, the thing that

0:37:58.200 --> 0:38:04.160
<v Speaker 1>really shocked me was that Illuminate found another interesting statistic here.

0:38:04.200 --> 0:38:07.120
<v Speaker 1>Maybe y'all won't find it shocking at all, maybe it's

0:38:07.160 --> 0:38:10.080
<v Speaker 1>not surprising at all to you, but it was to me.

0:38:10.400 --> 0:38:14.520
<v Speaker 1>So here we go. According to Luminate, about fifty percent

0:38:14.719 --> 0:38:17.800
<v Speaker 1>of the folks out there who are buying vinyl don't

0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:22.040
<v Speaker 1>have a record player. Now, granted, this was discovered in

0:38:22.080 --> 0:38:25.719
<v Speaker 1>a survey that had a fairly small sample fewer than

0:38:25.760 --> 0:38:29.280
<v Speaker 1>four thousand respondents. Around three thy nine hundred and ninety

0:38:29.400 --> 0:38:33.120
<v Speaker 1>or so responded to the survey, and about half of

0:38:33.160 --> 0:38:35.640
<v Speaker 1>them said that they had bought a vinyl album but

0:38:35.760 --> 0:38:39.040
<v Speaker 1>did not own a record player. Maybe when you expand

0:38:39.080 --> 0:38:43.320
<v Speaker 1>that out to the general music audience, that percentage won't hold.

0:38:43.520 --> 0:38:46.600
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you won't see it be like a fifty to fifty.

0:38:46.960 --> 0:38:50.160
<v Speaker 1>But even for a small survey, fifty percent having no

0:38:50.320 --> 0:38:52.800
<v Speaker 1>means to play back the media that they have bought,

0:38:53.600 --> 0:38:56.759
<v Speaker 1>that's banana to me. Now, I suppose some of the

0:38:56.800 --> 0:38:59.920
<v Speaker 1>explanation here goes back to what I was talking about

0:39:00.160 --> 0:39:02.920
<v Speaker 1>at the top of the show about the ritual of

0:39:03.040 --> 0:39:06.560
<v Speaker 1>playing vinyl. So, yeah, you can't actually play the vinyl

0:39:06.840 --> 0:39:10.319
<v Speaker 1>if you don't have a record player. That arguably key

0:39:10.360 --> 0:39:15.160
<v Speaker 1>component of the process is not accessible to you. However,

0:39:15.800 --> 0:39:19.399
<v Speaker 1>you do end up having a physical object that represents

0:39:19.480 --> 0:39:22.680
<v Speaker 1>the thing you love, the music you love, the artist

0:39:22.800 --> 0:39:27.400
<v Speaker 1>you love. You have something that is tactile, It is real.

0:39:27.960 --> 0:39:31.759
<v Speaker 1>So it's not this ephemeral file that only exists in

0:39:31.840 --> 0:39:35.000
<v Speaker 1>digital zeros and ones. It's something that you can hold

0:39:35.120 --> 0:39:37.799
<v Speaker 1>in your hands and you can look at it. You

0:39:37.800 --> 0:39:41.280
<v Speaker 1>can admire the album art. A lot of modern vinyl

0:39:41.280 --> 0:39:45.360
<v Speaker 1>albums come with incredible liner notes that give thoughts about

0:39:45.719 --> 0:39:49.200
<v Speaker 1>how the songs came to be and what the artists

0:39:49.200 --> 0:39:52.160
<v Speaker 1>were doing when they were creating the music. Some of

0:39:52.160 --> 0:39:56.160
<v Speaker 1>them come with other supplemental material like artwork and photography

0:39:56.360 --> 0:40:00.440
<v Speaker 1>and all sorts of stuff. The vinyl itself might be

0:40:00.520 --> 0:40:02.920
<v Speaker 1>a work of art. We've left the days of generic

0:40:03.000 --> 0:40:06.840
<v Speaker 1>black vinyl discs behind, and it's no surprise these days

0:40:07.080 --> 0:40:11.600
<v Speaker 1>to pull out a vinyl album that's bubblegum pink or

0:40:12.280 --> 0:40:15.360
<v Speaker 1>Da Glow Blue or even Glow in the Dark or

0:40:15.480 --> 0:40:18.759
<v Speaker 1>Tie Die in all sorts of colors. The vinyl is

0:40:19.400 --> 0:40:23.120
<v Speaker 1>a collectible and a physical object that connects the audience

0:40:23.160 --> 0:40:26.560
<v Speaker 1>to the music, even I guess if they can't actually

0:40:26.600 --> 0:40:29.839
<v Speaker 1>play the music that's on that disc. And I do

0:40:29.880 --> 0:40:34.800
<v Speaker 1>get that music is capable of encouraging strong emotional bonds.

0:40:35.280 --> 0:40:37.560
<v Speaker 1>There are certain songs I listen to when I'm in

0:40:37.560 --> 0:40:43.360
<v Speaker 1>a particular mood because the music emphasizes feelings. Sometimes that

0:40:43.480 --> 0:40:45.480
<v Speaker 1>might not even be the feeling that the artist was

0:40:45.560 --> 0:40:50.880
<v Speaker 1>intending to impart, but that's okay. The way the audience

0:40:50.960 --> 0:40:55.120
<v Speaker 1>consumes art and what the artists intended don't always align,

0:40:55.160 --> 0:40:58.440
<v Speaker 1>but that doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad thing. And

0:40:59.000 --> 0:41:03.239
<v Speaker 1>owning something physical seems to make it more real, like

0:41:03.960 --> 0:41:08.360
<v Speaker 1>there really is something going on more than just listening

0:41:08.400 --> 0:41:11.279
<v Speaker 1>to some music. Now, if you go down that path

0:41:11.360 --> 0:41:15.239
<v Speaker 1>too far, you start to stray into dangerous parasocial territory.

0:41:15.800 --> 0:41:18.680
<v Speaker 1>But I do think that celebrating a connection to art

0:41:19.040 --> 0:41:21.960
<v Speaker 1>is fine, just you know, don't project that into a

0:41:22.000 --> 0:41:26.080
<v Speaker 1>situation where you and the artist or artists are magically

0:41:26.200 --> 0:41:31.080
<v Speaker 1>besties in your mind and imagination or something that's not healthy. Now,

0:41:31.120 --> 0:41:34.839
<v Speaker 1>I guess I'm not quite old enough to just shake

0:41:34.920 --> 0:41:38.359
<v Speaker 1>my head in confusion at hearing that, you know, half

0:41:38.360 --> 0:41:40.200
<v Speaker 1>the people who are buying vinyl don't have a way

0:41:40.239 --> 0:41:42.840
<v Speaker 1>of playing it. I do get it. I mean, I

0:41:42.880 --> 0:41:46.160
<v Speaker 1>do have collectibles that don't really have any other purpose

0:41:46.239 --> 0:41:49.680
<v Speaker 1>other than to be collectible. Right. I've got things like

0:41:49.719 --> 0:41:53.920
<v Speaker 1>action figures. I don't play with them. They're connections to things.

0:41:54.840 --> 0:41:57.360
<v Speaker 1>I even have things like Funko pops that really can't

0:41:57.360 --> 0:41:59.759
<v Speaker 1>play with at all. You just look at them. So

0:42:00.320 --> 0:42:03.920
<v Speaker 1>I do understand collecting things that give you a connection

0:42:04.040 --> 0:42:06.840
<v Speaker 1>to something you love. I also think that listening to

0:42:06.920 --> 0:42:11.560
<v Speaker 1>vinyl albums is a really cool celebration of technology, of music,

0:42:11.680 --> 0:42:15.680
<v Speaker 1>of art, and of your own emotional experience to that art.

0:42:16.320 --> 0:42:20.600
<v Speaker 1>I highly recommend it if you haven't experienced it. Like.

0:42:20.960 --> 0:42:23.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying go out there and buy a turntable

0:42:23.000 --> 0:42:25.320
<v Speaker 1>and a bunch of albums, but if you have access

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<v Speaker 1>to one, I do recommend just sitting down to experience it.

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<v Speaker 1>It might take a little practice to experience music this way,

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<v Speaker 1>because we have trained ourselves to be more impatient and

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<v Speaker 1>more demanding. You know, we have expectations for being able

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<v Speaker 1>to experience music on our terms, not the artist's terms.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's nothing necessarily wrong with that. It's just different,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. We hit that skip button so quickly, and

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't gonna lie. A lot of albums have at

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<v Speaker 1>least one real clunker of a song that screams, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a good chance for you to go to

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<v Speaker 1>a bio break. You don't really need to listen to

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<v Speaker 1>this one. That happens a lot, at least for me.

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<v Speaker 1>But with some albums, you might find that listening in

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<v Speaker 1>this way, where you are sitting down and deliberately listening

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<v Speaker 1>track to track and having that intermission and having to

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<v Speaker 1>turn a record over and start it up again, you

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<v Speaker 1>might find that that experience creates a whole new way

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<v Speaker 1>to appreciate music that you like. But be warned it

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<v Speaker 1>could make it harder for you to listen to tracks

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<v Speaker 1>and isolation in the future. There's certain songs where I

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<v Speaker 1>feel it's incomplete if I haven't heard the track that

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<v Speaker 1>plays before it, because the artist made such a clever

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<v Speaker 1>way of one track leading into the next that I

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<v Speaker 1>feel that it's not really the right experience if I

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<v Speaker 1>just listened to that one track completely isolated from everything else. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>before I conclude, there are a couple of other tidbits

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<v Speaker 1>from that Illuminate study that I thought were interesting. So,

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<v Speaker 1>out of all the music genres out there, vinyl sales

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<v Speaker 1>were most popular in the rock genre. Rock albums made

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<v Speaker 1>up more than fifty percent of all vinyl sales, so

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<v Speaker 1>this is not something that is represented across every genre.

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<v Speaker 1>Rock really dominates. Second place was R and B and

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<v Speaker 1>hip hop, which also includes rap albums as well, so

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty big umbrella, and that made up around eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>percent a little less than eighteen percent of all sales. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>nearly half of all vinyl sales were made in independent

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<v Speaker 1>record stores, which is freaking awesome. I highly recommend seeking

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<v Speaker 1>out a local record shop in your area. You could

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<v Speaker 1>find all sorts of gems. There a lot of independent

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<v Speaker 1>shops sell both new and used vinyl, and sometimes you'll

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<v Speaker 1>find stuff that you didn't even know existed that will

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<v Speaker 1>delight you. Some of the records you come across might

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<v Speaker 1>be quirky, Some of them could be really funny when

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<v Speaker 1>viewed through a modern lens. Some come across as really

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<v Speaker 1>corny or square or whatever other adjective you'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>use for not very cool. You know, lame would probably

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<v Speaker 1>fit for a lot of these albums. But I promise you,

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<v Speaker 1>even in those categories, you can find stuff that has

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<v Speaker 1>a sleeper or two in it. In fact, that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I think soundtracks for films like Quentin Tarantino's movies, or

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<v Speaker 1>like James Gunn's films, specifically the Guardans of the Galaxy movies,

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<v Speaker 1>those soundtracks end up being huge hits because they contain

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<v Speaker 1>tracks that are seriously awesome but were largely overlooked. And

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<v Speaker 1>of course, there's new vinyl being pressed every year. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not all just old vinyl. There's lots of new stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Bands that are active right now that are pressing albums

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<v Speaker 1>in vinyl, and indie stores carry that stuff too. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you do have an independent record shop near you,

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<v Speaker 1>take a trip and check it out. Look at some

0:45:45.719 --> 0:45:48.480
<v Speaker 1>of those albums, laugh at the cheesy album RT and

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<v Speaker 1>ooh and a the really cool ones. You know, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>pick up a couple of albums, particularly if you have

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<v Speaker 1>a record player at home, though I won't judge you

0:45:56.520 --> 0:45:59.239
<v Speaker 1>if you don't. And I just want to give a

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<v Speaker 1>quick shout out to a couple of independent record stores

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<v Speaker 1>that I love. Back in Athens, Georgia, where I went

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<v Speaker 1>to college, there's a shop called wax In Facts, which

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<v Speaker 1>still exists, I'm happy to say. When I was in school,

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<v Speaker 1>they actually had a room of used vinyl where they

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<v Speaker 1>sold records by the pound. You paid one dollar per

0:46:17.840 --> 0:46:21.120
<v Speaker 1>pound of records. It didn't matter what albums you picked,

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<v Speaker 1>so if you came across a rare pressing, just by

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<v Speaker 1>flipping through all the albums, you could get an insane bargain.

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<v Speaker 1>So a big shout out to my buddy John who

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<v Speaker 1>scored a pressing of meat Loafs Bat out of Hell

0:46:32.200 --> 0:46:35.839
<v Speaker 1>album on red vinyl that was really cool. And then,

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<v Speaker 1>not too far from where I live today, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>record store called Criminal Records. It's in a little five

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<v Speaker 1>Points area in Atlanta, Georgia. It's another great spot to

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<v Speaker 1>buy music. And comic books, and it's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>busiest shops in that little neighborhood, and it attracts a

0:46:51.760 --> 0:46:55.640
<v Speaker 1>wide variety of music fans. That's another cool thing about

0:46:55.760 --> 0:46:59.360
<v Speaker 1>Vinyl and these independent record shops. They have a broad audience.

0:46:59.440 --> 0:47:02.480
<v Speaker 1>And when you go to these physical locations, you run

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<v Speaker 1>into really interesting people. I mean, these are sometimes people

0:47:05.200 --> 0:47:08.879
<v Speaker 1>who are extremely different from yourself, but you'll find you'll

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<v Speaker 1>get caught up in conversations about music and art and

0:47:13.880 --> 0:47:17.319
<v Speaker 1>collections and things that you thought were really interesting and

0:47:17.360 --> 0:47:20.480
<v Speaker 1>maybe some lost gems. And it's just a great place

0:47:20.520 --> 0:47:23.280
<v Speaker 1>to connect with people as well as to the music itself.

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<v Speaker 1>And all of that is thanks to this technology. So

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to do this episode not just to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the tech, but to talk about its impact in

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<v Speaker 1>culture and society, because I find that to be the

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<v Speaker 1>really fascinating piece of technology. I think all of tech

0:47:40.160 --> 0:47:43.520
<v Speaker 1>is really cool, but seeing how it interacts with us

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<v Speaker 1>is really where the magic is for me. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just thought it'd be fun to talk about this. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>just big shout out to Vinyl like continuing to climb

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<v Speaker 1>year over year. The most recent increases have been more modest,

0:47:57.480 --> 0:48:00.359
<v Speaker 1>but it's still been on the upward track, so I

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<v Speaker 1>hope to see that continue, and I hope I can

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<v Speaker 1>go shopping for some new vinyl pretty soon. Hope you're

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<v Speaker 1>all well, and I will talk to you again really soon.

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