WEBVTT - Ep. 375: Crimes Of Passion (Ft. Sistas Who Kill)

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<v Speaker 1>Guess what decision we're about to make.

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<v Speaker 2>Horrible decision.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, y'all, welcome to another episode of Harbard Bled.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Young.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm your girl, Mandy b aka Stallion aka Debt Beach.

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<v Speaker 2>It's sugar and wheezy, and I'm super excited for this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I tell you it's a secret? Tell us a secret.

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<v Speaker 1>If I wasn't a.

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<v Speaker 2>Sex podcaster, I would totally talk about true grime literally

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<v Speaker 2>what she was wanting us to do on Patriotic I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, bitch, we talk about six indeed, girl gonna

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<v Speaker 2>make another show.

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<v Speaker 1>Any literally came together, though, I do because niggas be

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<v Speaker 1>trying to kill my pissy.

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<v Speaker 2>And two, I get a little crazy to where, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I just feel like anybody at every dated it is

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<v Speaker 2>like should I sleep with one eye open?

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<v Speaker 3>But we have the ladies from Sisters who kill and

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<v Speaker 3>do crime podcasts, and I'm really excited again. I love

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<v Speaker 3>collaborating with other podcasters, but also tee because we don't

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<v Speaker 3>all been there where we might want to kill a motherfucker.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 3>So with our little icebreaker, there's four of us. I

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<v Speaker 3>do want you all to introduce yourselves and then we

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<v Speaker 3>gonna see who the craziest bitch of.

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<v Speaker 2>All of us is?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, okay, hi everybody, I am Mara Williams. You can

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<v Speaker 4>find me everywhere as Maraba magnificent.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, magnificent, non tesz okay. Now we have to

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<v Speaker 2>know for the sex. Remember we needed like AOL chatroom

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<v Speaker 2>age sexual orientation location.

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<v Speaker 4>I am twenty nine, I will be Oh, I'm thirty.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll be thirty next week. Okay, okay cash at Mara

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<v Speaker 4>will So, I am thirty. I identify as bisexual and

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<v Speaker 4>I am in Atlanta, Georgia.

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<v Speaker 5>I am thirty, I said, I also identify as bisexual.

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<v Speaker 1>And what was the last question? Where you located?

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<v Speaker 2>Elma, the Atlanta girls and a bisexuality. It's in the water, honestly, No,

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<v Speaker 2>I just meet it everywhere now, No, no, no, I

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<v Speaker 2>think meeting straight people in Atlanta's kind of like, oh

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<v Speaker 2>are you lying?

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<v Speaker 4>But what's crazy is that when I grew up here,

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<v Speaker 4>I was dating guys all of high school and then

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<v Speaker 4>it wasn't until I went to college that I had

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<v Speaker 4>my first girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>I pretty much was dating all girls.

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<v Speaker 4>And one of my friends was like, I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>that you can't claim bisexual anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I ain't seen you with a man in a

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<v Speaker 1>long time.

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<v Speaker 4>So she's trying to say right, and so now that

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<v Speaker 4>I'm dating a guy again, they're like, okay, you do

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<v Speaker 4>remember what men look like.

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<v Speaker 1>Waves.

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<v Speaker 3>I went out last night to Copper Cove and I

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<v Speaker 3>was just looking around, and I was like, everyone here

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<v Speaker 3>is so fucking pretty, Like Atlanta is just full.

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<v Speaker 2>Of so many women, Like the place was full of women.

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<v Speaker 3>But I was like, bitch, everybody fine, everybody is fucking gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was just like, I guess New York is

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<v Speaker 3>school too, but there's it's just so mixy. It's mixed

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<v Speaker 3>in terms of like how everyone dresses. I look everyone here,

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<v Speaker 3>not saying y'all look alike, but everybody look really motherfucking

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<v Speaker 3>I'll say that my.

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<v Speaker 1>City, for what you just said, is d C.

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<v Speaker 2>I think what I love about Atlanta is the girls

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<v Speaker 2>all themselves up here, and I think that's dope. But

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<v Speaker 2>what I love about d C is I do think

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<v Speaker 2>I could see the most natural looking natural, like a

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<v Speaker 2>very ethereal looking girl, and I'm just like, oh damn.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, we're in like those spaces where it's

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<v Speaker 2>just like black cities with colleges and you're we're just

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<v Speaker 2>not surrounded like that.

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<v Speaker 1>New York is a melting pot.

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<v Speaker 2>It is beautiful, but Brooklyn in the summertime is the

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<v Speaker 2>most blow. I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. All Right, let's get out to kill.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, if you can explain a little bit about what

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<v Speaker 3>y'all get into on the pot, and then we go

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<v Speaker 3>see how we navigate that in real life over yere.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, well, we talk about black women who kill.

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<v Speaker 5>We basically try and start in the beginning getting as

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<v Speaker 5>much information as we can what was their childhood like

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<v Speaker 5>because maybe those instances played in effect on.

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<v Speaker 1>What led up to the murder.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, yeah, we uh introduce them to the victim

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<v Speaker 5>or maybe their accomplishes, and keep going through these stages

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<v Speaker 5>of life because everything that happens to you build you

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<v Speaker 5>as a person, and then get to the crime.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk about the trial and where are they now.

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<v Speaker 5>They might still be in jail, some are released, some

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<v Speaker 5>are dead, So just kind of talk about that. And

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<v Speaker 5>then we have two segments that we do after telling

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<v Speaker 5>a story. We have I'm not black, I'm Oja because

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<v Speaker 5>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>You, oh god.

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<v Speaker 5>You know how you be watching like a crime show

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<v Speaker 5>and be like wow, would she do that? Now she

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<v Speaker 5>knows she should have, so I ain't do it. But

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<v Speaker 5>if I did, yeah, and we'll tell like stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 5>and it we'll do parole and no parole, and so

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<v Speaker 5>we just right. And so sometimes they'll be in the

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<v Speaker 5>prison and they'll be like doing work, like teaching classes.

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<v Speaker 5>Or sometimes we might have think she got a hard

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<v Speaker 5>sentence or something, so we might parola. And sometimes she

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<v Speaker 5>just did what she did and she deserved it.

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<v Speaker 2>In a snowfro, why do you think we're obsessed with

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<v Speaker 2>crime in jail in death. What do you think that

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<v Speaker 2>is from what you learned from like doing the show?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I always liked True crime before I started

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<v Speaker 4>the show, but I think it's the sense of the

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<v Speaker 4>fact that it's real, like I can actually go out,

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<v Speaker 4>it can happen. I know, if I feel overly prepared,

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<v Speaker 4>then I finally feel a little bit prepared.

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<v Speaker 2>There ain't no fairies, there ain't no aliens.

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<v Speaker 1>These are real life.

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<v Speaker 2>They literally had regular jobs, families, They could be your.

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<v Speaker 1>Labor is so normal, so normal killer.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh absolutely, We went to high school with the first girls.

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<v Speaker 4>That the first story that we told We went to

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<v Speaker 4>high school with them. I was on the track team.

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<v Speaker 4>They were at ROTC. You were in a class or something.

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<v Speaker 4>We saw them get arrested at school.

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<v Speaker 1>What yeah, what was.

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<v Speaker 2>The tea around school for that?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>How do you?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? No, the icemaker nigga go. Well, see, they got

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<v Speaker 1>arrested on the last day of school. They didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>have to think in right.

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<v Speaker 4>But but Task told us when we told the when

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<v Speaker 4>we did the podcast. I didn't know this, but Task

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<v Speaker 4>that she heard that there was an informant, like one

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<v Speaker 4>of the students was an informant at the school.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that was true.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't hear that, but I read that in an

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<v Speaker 5>article like when I was doing research.

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<v Speaker 1>Hold on, why did they kill their right? She didn't

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<v Speaker 1>let them go out? Okay?

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<v Speaker 5>So they grew up being raised by their grandmother. Generationally,

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<v Speaker 5>the parents have had their kids as teenagers. The great grandmother,

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<v Speaker 5>the grandmother, and the mother have had their kids at teenagers.

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<v Speaker 5>So she had her twins at sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>I know she was having twins, found out while her

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<v Speaker 1>legs wide open.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I'm in their podcast, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And so.

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<v Speaker 5>They were raised by their grandmother because the mom was

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<v Speaker 5>young and she wasn't necessarily ready to be a No,

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<v Speaker 5>they was raised by their great grandmother and their mom

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<v Speaker 5>is young, so she's not necessarily ready to be a parent.

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<v Speaker 5>She gets a boyfriend, she decides, and now she's ready

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<v Speaker 5>to settle down. She wants her twins back. And the

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<v Speaker 5>way the articles present it is the mom wanted more structure.

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<v Speaker 5>They were, you know, getting over on their grandmother and

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<v Speaker 5>they didn't have too many rules, and that's why they

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<v Speaker 5>wanted to stay with their grandmother. But I think looking

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<v Speaker 5>deeper than that, there was one twin you know, said

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<v Speaker 5>that she was sexually assaulted and.

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<v Speaker 1>Old mom and mom was like, no, you weren't you

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<v Speaker 1>just out here being fast?

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<v Speaker 2>Wait a second, and was this? Did it get clarified

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<v Speaker 2>whether it was someone their age or if it was

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<v Speaker 2>a family member.

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<v Speaker 4>They didn't clarify that, but okay, they were being blamed

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<v Speaker 4>when they brought it to their mom.

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<v Speaker 1>They were being blamed also, like when.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of the articles were like, these girls were

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<v Speaker 4>so spoiled, how could they have possibly not liked their mom?

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<v Speaker 4>They had everything they needed. Their mom was a hairdresser,

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<v Speaker 4>so of course their hair was always going to be done.

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<v Speaker 4>That's just a given. And we know, like when your

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<v Speaker 4>mom is mad at you and she not talking to you,

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<v Speaker 4>and y'all kind of got the silent treatment in the house.

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<v Speaker 1>What are the things that break the ice? Let's go

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<v Speaker 1>get something to eat here.

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<v Speaker 4>I bought you this from the store, so you can

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<v Speaker 4>we know as black women that you can be look

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<v Speaker 4>spoiled on the outside and really have a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>trouble on the aside. And every time that white people

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<v Speaker 4>were telling this story, they weren't saying those.

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<v Speaker 2>Things, what are you making us side with the king?

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<v Speaker 1>No no no no no no no.

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<v Speaker 3>No no, but your own mother like and and trigger warning

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<v Speaker 3>your own mother though not really taking in to protect

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<v Speaker 3>you when you come to her that you've been sexually.

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<v Speaker 1>Assault right, and it makes us question the bigger thing.

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<v Speaker 4>So like they had to be in family court for

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<v Speaker 4>quite a while because the girls were running away, they

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<v Speaker 4>were doing a lot of things, and in the family

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<v Speaker 4>court they were saying, we don't want to be a mom.

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<v Speaker 4>Mom is trying to get starting, get drug tested, going

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<v Speaker 4>to the parenting classes so she can get the girls back.

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<v Speaker 4>The girls say in the courtroom, we do not want

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<v Speaker 4>to live with her. They even yelled out after the

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<v Speaker 4>judge that they had to live back with mom. They

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<v Speaker 4>were like, if we have to live with her, we're

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<v Speaker 4>going to kill her inurthouse and no one did anything.

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<v Speaker 4>So now here's the bigger question. Who's really to blame?

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<v Speaker 4>If the girls are saying that they're distressed in this situation,

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<v Speaker 4>they don't want to be here there their family, the

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<v Speaker 4>family court gave them therapists through a year. They went

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<v Speaker 4>through like what nine different therapists, So how are they

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<v Speaker 4>really getting helped? So now we get to ask the

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<v Speaker 4>bigger questions. We know that wrong is wrong and they

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<v Speaker 4>shouldn't have killed their mother, but who else was responsible

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<v Speaker 4>for making sure that this didn't happen?

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<v Speaker 1>So this is giving me a little bit of Gypsy Rose.

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<v Speaker 1>And for those that, yeah, don't know who.

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<v Speaker 2>Gypsy Rose is, well, no, when Gypsy and her mom

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<v Speaker 2>kept her being ill, was giving her medicine? Like making

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<v Speaker 2>her think that she was sick, wasn't giving her a

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<v Speaker 2>normal life? Like I'm actually totally on the fensive killing

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<v Speaker 2>Like I understand.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think I think that's the purpose of it

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<v Speaker 5>because it's not always going to be as blatant as

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<v Speaker 5>my mom was.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not black and white jugging. Yeah what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>and in this case you see another girl.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, but like and that's and that's why we

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<v Speaker 5>find it important to start at childhood and say these

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<v Speaker 5>life events because the more information you got, you're like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>well maybe they do have a side to this. And

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<v Speaker 5>it's again not to say that they're right, but are

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<v Speaker 5>they the monsters that everybody points them out to be?

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<v Speaker 1>Right? Black and white? Though?

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<v Speaker 2>The way that we got to understand Gypsy right, not

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<v Speaker 2>to say that these girls had no you know, story

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<v Speaker 2>similar to hers, but I watched like a little Hulu

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<v Speaker 2>doc and it made me feel sympathetic for her, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I still think she deserves that empathy. But yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 2>watching her mom take all this money and all these

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<v Speaker 2>donations to fund her daughter who's not sick, put her

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<v Speaker 2>on TV, putting her a little in the little gauze

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<v Speaker 2>turban that she got cancer. That's fucking crazy. It's crazy

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<v Speaker 2>to me because but do they do it for black Cat?

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<v Speaker 3>Going back just that story and them saying that in court,

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<v Speaker 3>I think definitely wanting to lean into the relationship and

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<v Speaker 3>romantic passion kills. That's what happened to my cousin last year,

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<v Speaker 3>like she was trying to leave. Also, another friend of

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<v Speaker 3>mine is oh my god. I think in the last

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<v Speaker 3>two weeks two people murder suicides have been brought up.

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<v Speaker 3>But someone trying to leave a relationship, someone saying I'll

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<v Speaker 3>kill you, someone saying they'll do this, and a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people unfortunately don't believe that as a threat until

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<v Speaker 3>it happens.

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<v Speaker 5>And the most importantly, the police don't believe it is

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<v Speaker 5>the police.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean? You have anything to back

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<v Speaker 1>this up? And it's like if I'm not coming in

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<v Speaker 1>with cuts and bruises, like.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have a case, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Like you have to Well, I want to make this

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<v Speaker 2>a little fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to stay who.

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<v Speaker 2>Is Yeah, we get deep, but I do want to

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<v Speaker 2>see which of us we think would be you know,

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<v Speaker 2>more of a killer.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, out of YouTube.

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<v Speaker 2>If there was a crime of passion to happen, whether

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<v Speaker 2>you're fans, it would be me.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be me. Now, why is that? I love?

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<v Speaker 1>I love hard and when I do, I give you

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<v Speaker 1>my all. And then if I feel like you taken

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<v Speaker 1>advantage of that ship, I will snatch that shit back.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the craziest thing you've done? In a relationship, like

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<v Speaker 2>have you like Keita Keita car or.

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<v Speaker 4>Like you know, I've actually never messed with anybody's vehicle

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<v Speaker 4>because it was very it was a long journey for

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<v Speaker 4>me to get my first car, so I really in

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<v Speaker 4>my first car. I love that hooped evend know ac

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<v Speaker 4>so much, so much, so I actually have never messed

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<v Speaker 4>with anybody's car.

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<v Speaker 1>I have stolen somebody's car.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I drove it back like ten minutes later, she said,

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<v Speaker 4>after she said she was calling the police. I would

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<v Speaker 4>have been sisters who go to jail, So you stole

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<v Speaker 4>a car, Okay, I actual physical altercations have happened, but like,

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<v Speaker 4>I've actually never been arrested. I've said people, I've sent

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<v Speaker 4>some people to jail.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you sent people to jail? Because you see.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to go to jail, so I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 4>send you. And if you mess with me, I am like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>you're gonna hit me.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna hit me? You're absolutely no, no, wait, yes, I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think out of us, it's definitely weazy

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<v Speaker 2>more than me. I feel like the comments are like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's like yeah, for sure, I'm not like that crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm erratic, Like I think I'm so like normally

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<v Speaker 2>chill and calm every day that like you do that

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<v Speaker 2>one little thing it's over dude, Like I can be like,

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<v Speaker 2>but it could be anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not just romantically.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like sometimes I feel like maybe it's because I

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<v Speaker 2>don't set enough boundaries, which also is the thing I

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<v Speaker 2>see with killers, right, Sometimes I don't really let people

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<v Speaker 2>know that the things.

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<v Speaker 1>They're doing are bothering me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and when you let that boil in fester, what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>My bro story, and this was the only time I

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<v Speaker 2>put myself in a position and was like, damn, I

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<v Speaker 2>might kill the motherfucker for this.

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<v Speaker 3>So she was dealing with a guy at the time

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<v Speaker 3>who was in a relationship. The guy was living with

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<v Speaker 3>his girlfriend. The guy was bringing my friend to the

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<v Speaker 3>girlfriend's house to fuck, and she came home early like

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<v Speaker 3>one day while she was at the house and hid

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<v Speaker 3>and snuck out.

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<v Speaker 1>And so all I could do was why did she hide?

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<v Speaker 1>Because she heard it?

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<v Speaker 3>She did because the girl came in the house. The

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<v Speaker 3>girlfriend came home, so she had in the bathroom and

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<v Speaker 3>he had to navigate getting her out of the house.

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<v Speaker 3>He was with her while the girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>Was in the house.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm hearing this story and I immediately actually put

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<v Speaker 2>myself in that position. My last relationship was probably the

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<v Speaker 2>most I've ever loved someone, the most. I felt like,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, And even though we had dealt with

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<v Speaker 2>other women, I to bite sexual. Even though we had

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<v Speaker 2>dealt with other women. I couldn't fathom if I came

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<v Speaker 2>home and he had a bitch in my ship. That

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<v Speaker 2>to me. I thought about it, and I was like, oh, yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm on a bitch, I'm on the top.

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<v Speaker 1>In the purse. The goddamn who's gonna go in the purse?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you mean? Like, I'm like, I don't even

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<v Speaker 2>know who I would get first, because there are not

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<v Speaker 2>him him. She might not know even though my pictures wait, no,

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<v Speaker 2>my pictures all over them.

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<v Speaker 1>A woman's such in the house is very prominent. They

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<v Speaker 1>know you're right your homegirl. You didn't know she was

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<v Speaker 1>in another woman's house.

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<v Speaker 2>And no, I think she knew. That's how And she said,

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<v Speaker 2>that's how good the dick.

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<v Speaker 1>Was, girl, I see. And those are the times where

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, and that's when the side bitch gotta go.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, yeah, you know, I both gotta go no, you

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<v Speaker 5>can sit there and suffer.

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<v Speaker 4>You can sit there and suffer. Good luck dating, tell

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<v Speaker 4>me about your eggs. Well, she's in prison because she

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<v Speaker 4>killed my side bitch because I was cheating. Good luck

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<v Speaker 4>dating for the rest of 'am.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no shit, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll sit there a smile on my muck shot.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, with Mandy's X the stories that we've heard on

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<v Speaker 2>the show, it wouldn't be be surprised a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>I'd go to court for you for, but that one,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be right there. I didn't see her, do I

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<v Speaker 2>have nothing camera watching us slit his throat.

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<v Speaker 1>That was I in my right mind. I think I

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<v Speaker 1>was asleep.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, nah, yeah no. And it's crazy too, and

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<v Speaker 2>I would love to know if there's a story, We'll

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<v Speaker 2>get into some But I was just talking to someone

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<v Speaker 2>about hypnotism and and how he could literally hypnotize people,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know he was doing it for some time,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, damn, I wonder how many times

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<v Speaker 2>that's used in court that maybe they were hypnotized or

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<v Speaker 2>under some psychological spell to do something.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, clearly I don't know about spells, but I

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<v Speaker 4>mean you can have a psychosis that is admissible in

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<v Speaker 4>court as a defense.

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<v Speaker 2>So why don't everybody just say that?

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<v Speaker 1>I think they are.

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<v Speaker 2>But how do you grow that?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I mean you have to be like a

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<v Speaker 5>doctor has to sign off on that this is a

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<v Speaker 5>break and I think I can't remember who it is.

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<v Speaker 5>But remember she was playing and they kept sending her

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<v Speaker 5>back to as a doctor.

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<v Speaker 1>And the doctor kept saying, stop sending her here. She

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<v Speaker 1>is fine, she can she can go to the Green

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<v Speaker 1>Britter and doctor has cleared her. What. There's a dude

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<v Speaker 1>in the Young Thug trial. I wish the one that

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<v Speaker 1>is played. He's like, I don't remember, I don't remember.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he's trying not to be a snitch. I

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<v Speaker 1>get it. He's like, I don't know nothing. I'll do

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<v Speaker 1>that for you, friend. Well thank you. Now let me

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<v Speaker 1>ask all this. This is kind of a sick question.

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<v Speaker 2>But fuck it. Okay, okay, I'm not saying I've learned

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<v Speaker 2>anything from Netflix murder shows or anything, but what I

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<v Speaker 2>will say is you we we hear that the people say, well,

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<v Speaker 2>this is teaching you how to kill, right. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think I could kill someone like with a knife or

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<v Speaker 2>fit like something like that where you touch because I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like that's too far. When I'm like watching the

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<v Speaker 2>ain't happened, I'm not gonna take pleasure in that, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I can see me shooting a nigga if they're gone

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<v Speaker 2>right there though, So.

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<v Speaker 3>You definitely gonna do that in Cali, not New York. Mean,

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<v Speaker 3>ain't nobody got guns in New York? Oh yeah, the

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<v Speaker 3>gunloads are crazy. That's why I don't feel safe here.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm ready to get the fuck out.

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<v Speaker 4>I just feel like in Atlanta, you automatically In the South,

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<v Speaker 4>you just automatically assume that everybody has a weapon, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>and you move accordingly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but that's my thing, not the way people be

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<v Speaker 2>dealing with other people's bitches and niggas and dating and

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<v Speaker 2>all going out.

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<v Speaker 1>Like those are people that are transplants.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is my thing too now.

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<v Speaker 3>But carrying carrying a weapon, I don't feel like a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people are psychologically right, so their tick tick boom,

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<v Speaker 3>they could have had a bad fucking more, you.

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<v Speaker 6>Know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that is actually something that's kind of made me

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<v Speaker 2>scared about arguments. In California, I was with my Georgia

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<v Speaker 2>with Alex Alex Media.

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<v Speaker 1>We were in the car.

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<v Speaker 2>This dude yelled at me or something, and I pulled

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<v Speaker 2>up on them and I'm like, what do you think

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<v Speaker 2>you're talking to? And Alex like pushed my foot down

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<v Speaker 2>on the gas, like, bro, people will kill you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>He's like you just talking ship Like no, And honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>I forget about gun laws and forget someone can snap.

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<v Speaker 2>So what I wanted to ask though, if y'all were

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do it okay, what would be the way would

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<v Speaker 2>be poisoned? Be choking them to his sex would be

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<v Speaker 2>leading them into a trap.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm trying to think about, like do I want to

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<v Speaker 4>keep all my secrets myself because I might need them

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<v Speaker 4>one day?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, because they've they've run in this tape right back.

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<v Speaker 4>When you court right, I'm like, I over shared on

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<v Speaker 4>the podcast. I'm like, I've got to stop. I feel

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<v Speaker 4>like it would have to be like a small needle,

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<v Speaker 4>like a that you get a shot with like wind

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<v Speaker 4>X or some type of solution so that you barely

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<v Speaker 4>have an entry point and then you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, not bitchin wow, what about what about you?

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<v Speaker 5>I definitely wanted to look like an accident, like it's

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<v Speaker 5>definitely not gonna be like a gun or anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it'd have to be some type of poison like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And I feel like if I end up like

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<v Speaker 4>if I end up killing and passion, and I definitely

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<v Speaker 4>didn't think it out, that means it's definitely not first degree.

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<v Speaker 4>But there are things that you should do, Like if

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<v Speaker 4>I accidentally slash somebody's throat, Oh my goodness, I am

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<v Speaker 4>now very remorseful. I'm gonna be the one that calls

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<v Speaker 4>the police. I'm gonna be the one that gets If

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<v Speaker 4>you come, you're gonna see that I tried. Like I'm

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<v Speaker 4>gonna be covered in blood. You're gonna see that I tried.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's get.

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<v Speaker 1>Between eight to twelve and fifty to li issue.

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<v Speaker 2>Know.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>You better you better be sad as soon as you're

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<v Speaker 2>doing you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I would, I would hire uh yeah, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>See, I'm not gonna lie.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an entrepreneur.

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<v Speaker 2>Well now, well now because I am like because I

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<v Speaker 2>got the money, and but now that I'm like literally

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<v Speaker 2>healed from my last relationship, I'm not gonna lie. I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to go. I knew where he parked his car,

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<v Speaker 2>and I wanted to keep it just because I felt

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<v Speaker 2>like it would make me feel.

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<v Speaker 1>Fun it wouldn't been.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But then my friends were like, no, girl, because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, there's what if you get caught. I literally

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<v Speaker 2>was this closed to pay a crackhead. I was just

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be like, you go twenty five dollars. I just

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<v Speaker 2>need you to take that thing around that car about twice.

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<v Speaker 1>Do that thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I literally already and they were planned to pay for

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<v Speaker 3>a crackhead to keep.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know how crazy? Now? I know I'm the

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<v Speaker 1>crazier one.

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<v Speaker 2>Why because I mean I knew that. No, No, I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't have paid a crackhead because if he would have

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<v Speaker 2>suited me in court, I'd have been right there, like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't given funk how much it costs to get

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<v Speaker 2>out this motherfucker.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I kid it, I know, I know even bet.

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<v Speaker 3>With all these people courts, need my skin near craighead, just.

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<v Speaker 1>Go on paint on the cars you again?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So for me, this is how I would do it.

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<v Speaker 2>This is really sick though you've been thinking you want

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<v Speaker 2>to share so bad? Look no, no, no, because like she

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<v Speaker 2>said in Jaxa, then you mentioned crimes. But I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>because I could only kill someone if I knew they

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to cause me pain, right, or if they really

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<v Speaker 2>tried to hurt me, like you gotta fuck my mammost up.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but that's crazy, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>You'd be hurting for a lot less than that. It

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<v Speaker 2>sounded myself, go ahead, I would be like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>we should go party tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>Take this pill, not the all bitch yup.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna go ahead and give him. That would

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<v Speaker 2>be it. I'd be like mine was mdm A. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what happened.

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<v Speaker 4>And then the good Samaritan law, you can call and

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<v Speaker 4>be like, oh my goodness, dave over and if you're

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<v Speaker 4>on something, you won't get arrested immediately. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 4>say over. They overdose on fantanel. I'm calling. I'm on

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<v Speaker 4>the same drug. I can't believe that this drug dealer

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<v Speaker 4>gave us the wrong thing.

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<v Speaker 5>You need to you need to like make him. You

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<v Speaker 5>got to set it up to where like he's buying it,

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<v Speaker 5>like pre planting it. It's his ideas right now.

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<v Speaker 1>The scientific fellows.

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<v Speaker 2>If you wanted to know what girls get around and

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<v Speaker 2>talk about, it's how to kill.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>For the Vanilla Ship, I wanted to get into something

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<v Speaker 2>Vanilla shit is our segment where we talk about sex

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<v Speaker 2>in the news.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have a particular article, but something that.

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<v Speaker 2>I keep seeing is people that work in the morgue

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<v Speaker 2>having sex with dead bodies, and necrophilia being a kink

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<v Speaker 2>that is sleeping with the dead.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have any stories you've heard about or maybe

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<v Speaker 2>read in the past where people killed and then had

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<v Speaker 2>sex with the body, especially women? And I say that

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<v Speaker 2>because we do. We do know that menn do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Men do it, But are there any women in any

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<v Speaker 3>of the stories that have killed their partners?

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<v Speaker 2>And continued that that's not real lesbian.

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<v Speaker 4>I was about to say for men, Like my go

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<v Speaker 4>to for necophilia is ed Kemper.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a white man. He's still locked up in l

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<v Speaker 1>A and he's like the voice for the audio books

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<v Speaker 1>of those really amazing sci fi movies.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah he's wait wait wait, wait, what like he got

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<v Speaker 2>a job this? Yeah, excuse me, He not still locked up.

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<v Speaker 1>He's still locked up. He's doing it from Jake from prison.

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<v Speaker 2>He getting paid or better.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what his payment is like. But like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to I don't want to get the

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<v Speaker 4>wrong but maybe Star Trek, maybe Star like the books

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<v Speaker 4>the audio books.

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<v Speaker 1>Is his voice. He's got a great voice. Wow, but

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<v Speaker 1>he's like the go to, my go to person if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about elsest.

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<v Speaker 5>We got was that girl after she killed she was

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<v Speaker 5>she was just looking him up.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, I didn't mean to check out of this.

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<v Speaker 5>He was in mortuary school And that was the closest

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<v Speaker 5>we got. Thrilled him and after she killed him, she said,

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<v Speaker 5>I can't wait to embalm his body.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoa.

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<v Speaker 4>And then she made one of the other roommates go

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<v Speaker 4>and drop help her drop the body off at like

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<v Speaker 4>this abandoned field. And he was like, I went out

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<v Speaker 4>there with her because she was basically like, if you

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<v Speaker 4>don't come with me, the same thing's gonna happen to you.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like. And then she prayed and set the

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<v Speaker 1>body on fire, and then she started dancing.

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<v Speaker 4>He was like, and then I went back to the

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<v Speaker 4>car and I was just gonna wait till she was

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<v Speaker 4>done doing a little ceremony.

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<v Speaker 2>Was did he get locked up as well? He was accomplice, He.

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<v Speaker 4>Was accompless, but he got a short amount of time

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<v Speaker 4>because he was like when the police came, he said.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you what happened. What he was singing

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<v Speaker 1>like the Temptations. He was like, I will tell you everything, damn.

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<v Speaker 1>So I also read.

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<v Speaker 2>The reason I wanted to bring that up is because

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<v Speaker 2>I saw this thing and I love it's true that

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<v Speaker 2>they're pushing people in like mortuary school to be women

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<v Speaker 2>because they're having so many issues with men sleeping with

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<v Speaker 2>dad crazy. It's got I ain't go hold you. We

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<v Speaker 2>said it in a while, WPS. Gotta be the white

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<v Speaker 2>men that are doing this bullshit because clearly we were

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<v Speaker 2>talking about sisters who killed and it.

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<v Speaker 1>Ain't got really nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you notice that black people murders ain't as crazy

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<v Speaker 2>as white like maybe they kill you, but white people are,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they want to wear your head.

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<v Speaker 1>Some stories, we have some stories. I do think that

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<v Speaker 1>white people are worse.

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<v Speaker 5>So like they as a percentage wise, like more of

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<v Speaker 5>them are crazy. Yeah then because even like black people

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<v Speaker 5>have generational trauma and but white people have generational crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Because we were doing.

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<v Speaker 4>We were doing a show for one of the like

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<v Speaker 4>true crime shows, and we had to do a white

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<v Speaker 4>story and we were like, wow, they just like dad

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<v Speaker 4>was crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>They still ain't found the woman's body. They the the

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<v Speaker 1>brother was in on it had to get rid of

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<v Speaker 1>the car. Like everybody just work together to kill this

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<v Speaker 1>white woman and we still can't find her. And I think,

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<v Speaker 1>are they still walking for you? Because they couldn't find

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<v Speaker 1>they all died.

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<v Speaker 2>Bro, guys, like there's no lie. We just think black

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<v Speaker 2>people don't do nothing crazy, like as far as like

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<v Speaker 2>killing be like, oh, there ain't no way there was

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<v Speaker 2>a black man that did. I mean, I think this

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<v Speaker 2>year one of the craziest I guess crimes of passion

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<v Speaker 2>was the the ballplayer. Uh, he's in the G League,

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<v Speaker 2>but he was also with the Kings. He was an

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<v Speaker 2>NBA player and G League player. Uh, they were in Arizona.

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<v Speaker 2>He literally killed someone and then played a game, got

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<v Speaker 2>on a flight, it went to the next city for

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<v Speaker 2>the next game after killing another woman. Mind you a

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<v Speaker 2>great game.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't hate to be dark, but I bet that

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<v Speaker 1>was a great.

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<v Speaker 2>Game because you're saying literally is around all the teammates

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<v Speaker 2>and they were like, we would have never guess literally

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<v Speaker 2>did it like they saw in a true crime film.

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<v Speaker 3>He did it with the girl that he was now dealing. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>my god, they tried to plan a threesome got her

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<v Speaker 3>to get in the car. He was in the back,

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<v Speaker 3>killed her with an HDMI court literally choked her from

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<v Speaker 3>behind and then dumped her body in like some lot

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<v Speaker 3>and like he had a rednumber with the girl or

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<v Speaker 3>Las Vegas. They were setting it up as that they

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<v Speaker 3>were they were both sex workers. And I guess the

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<v Speaker 3>friend was trying to tell on the other friend's pimp

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<v Speaker 3>and like boyfriend in jail. There was a whole bunch

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<v Speaker 3>of things, but pretty much they killed the girlfriend. Y'all

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<v Speaker 3>could look it up. Let me see if I could

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<v Speaker 3>get the guy's name.

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<v Speaker 2>But just just after this year, and it's just like

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<v Speaker 2>and everyone also was in this uh in this space,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is where I want to get into these

0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:35.959
<v Speaker 2>people being regular people. So many people in the comments

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<v Speaker 2>were like, he was a basketball player with so much

0:28:39.320 --> 0:28:42.360
<v Speaker 2>life to live and money, Why would you risk your

0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:45.680
<v Speaker 2>entire livelihood? Look at Darren Sharper on that well, that

0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:48.160
<v Speaker 2>he didn't kill people, he'd breaks me. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just the way of we get confused. Darren Sharper. For

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<v Speaker 2>those who don't know, I'm speaking of nephilia, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>literally kind of before I found out about this, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean about what he did I remember I had an

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<v Speaker 2>ex who was obsessed with the New Orleans Saints and

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<v Speaker 2>Darren Sharper is fine and shit and was on the

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<v Speaker 2>Saints usidday. Gabrielle Union Yep raped so many women to

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<v Speaker 2>the point where they were incapacitated, like body being lifeless.

0:29:13.920 --> 0:29:18.160
<v Speaker 2>And the crazy thing about it was people almost didn't

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't empathize with the victims more than they were confused

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<v Speaker 2>how you could be attractive and rich with Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't even want to call.

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<v Speaker 1>It a king.

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<v Speaker 3>No, well, I mean again, but it has to be

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<v Speaker 3>a kid. No, there's also just some psychological shit. By

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<v Speaker 3>the way, Chance Camachi, if you guys want to look

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<v Speaker 3>him up. That was the basketball player this year that

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<v Speaker 3>literally killed and the accomplice wasn't she only nineteen?

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<v Speaker 2>She was nineteen.

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<v Speaker 3>So the girl that helped him kill the girl and

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<v Speaker 3>get rid of the body, he was twenty seven, she

0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:45.040
<v Speaker 3>was nineteen.

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<v Speaker 1>That yes, sound like some twenty seven and nineteen year

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<v Speaker 1>old shit. It doesn't matter your money, it doesn't matter

0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:54.240
<v Speaker 1>how handsome you are, like, it doesn't matter you killer's

0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:56.360
<v Speaker 1>coming off shit, they come out all the types and sizes.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all about It's about how you're made up before

0:30:00.280 --> 0:30:01.880
<v Speaker 1>you're born, how your brain is made up.

0:30:01.880 --> 0:30:04.400
<v Speaker 4>And it's also about your circumstances. Everybody's like, do you

0:30:04.400 --> 0:30:05.760
<v Speaker 4>make a killer or you born a killer? And I

0:30:05.760 --> 0:30:09.320
<v Speaker 4>think it's really the tie in of both because you

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<v Speaker 4>can think about children that have like developmental delays, like

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<v Speaker 4>if you're interceeded as a young child and your parents

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<v Speaker 4>work with you, then you can grow up and have

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<v Speaker 4>a happy, healthy life, you know, and if you and

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<v Speaker 4>it's the same thing when making a killer.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean with with crimes of passion, what do you

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<v Speaker 3>see or what have you with all the research, with

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<v Speaker 3>all the stories do you see are like the top

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<v Speaker 3>three things that lead women to tick tick boom? Because

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<v Speaker 3>if men are listening here, we just sat here and

0:30:40.080 --> 0:30:42.440
<v Speaker 3>talked about how we kill, they asked, let's keep them

0:30:42.440 --> 0:30:44.840
<v Speaker 3>from making the mistakes that might get their asses killed.

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<v Speaker 3>So what are like the top three things that women

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<v Speaker 3>are like, I've had enough.

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<v Speaker 5>I have two okay, okay, cheating and really leaving them.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait women killed for leaving two?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you go nowhere?

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<v Speaker 3>So then that's what I've experienced in my direct proximity

0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:10.520
<v Speaker 3>is that those normally are men like women wanting to

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<v Speaker 3>finally leave and men being like, if I can't have you,

0:31:13.120 --> 0:31:13.680
<v Speaker 3>nobody can.

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<v Speaker 4>What's interesting is that a couple of cases that we've

0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:19.800
<v Speaker 4>come across where the man wanted to leave had to

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<v Speaker 4>do with the woman not being able to have a child,

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<v Speaker 4>and so she would end up killing another woman who

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<v Speaker 4>is with child, sometimes posing as she's as if she's pregnant.

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<v Speaker 4>We've had we've done a couple of cases where the

0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:34.960
<v Speaker 4>woman is like literally at term and she'll go sneak

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<v Speaker 4>into her she's befriended her, go take go into her house,

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<v Speaker 4>slice her open, steal the BA says, goes to the

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<v Speaker 4>hospital and says, I just had this baby and leave

0:31:46.040 --> 0:31:46.760
<v Speaker 4>that woman dead.

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<v Speaker 1>And she did. It's one girl on her wedding day,

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<v Speaker 1>on her wedding day, her husband and was sitting at

0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:55.400
<v Speaker 1>the altar wondering where his wife was, and she was

0:31:55.600 --> 0:32:00.960
<v Speaker 1>being murdered by their friend. Wait wait, will slice a

0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:05.840
<v Speaker 1>baby out of her. They're called womb raiders. Yep, womb raiders.

0:32:06.720 --> 0:32:10.120
<v Speaker 5>And it like she said, it's not because they want

0:32:10.160 --> 0:32:13.000
<v Speaker 5>a baby. Nine times out of ten, it's he want

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<v Speaker 5>a baby or like trying to please that person.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you hear this? This is the clip nigga. I

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<v Speaker 1>did not know that.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, how how often are you said a couple of stories,

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<v Speaker 3>because we have at least three.

0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:28.800
<v Speaker 1>We've we've got at least three.

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<v Speaker 4>We try to stay away from cases that involve children,

0:32:33.440 --> 0:32:36.120
<v Speaker 4>so you you'll get them once a month, once every month.

0:32:37.360 --> 0:32:41.080
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, it's it happens, And apparently it has increased

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<v Speaker 4>in the United States over the past couple of years

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<v Speaker 4>by like three percent. People want children, and most of

0:32:48.200 --> 0:32:49.880
<v Speaker 4>the time they're doing that because they want to keep

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<v Speaker 4>a man.

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<v Speaker 2>And my body language, I can't even move. There's there's

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<v Speaker 2>killer Sally. There's a lot of things recently too. I

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<v Speaker 2>know people being in domestic by type of relationships that

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<v Speaker 2>are both physical sexual emotional. That definitely leads women as

0:33:07.200 --> 0:33:09.080
<v Speaker 2>well to feeling like that's their only way out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's that's a good third, right, And.

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<v Speaker 5>I think money, money, money, But then I think I

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<v Speaker 5>think just focusing on the krime of passion part of it,

0:33:17.920 --> 0:33:19.480
<v Speaker 5>I think it would be the domestic.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably domestic.

0:33:23.160 --> 0:33:25.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean with money, do you find that the money

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<v Speaker 2>is because they're trying to get the insurance payout?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, Okay, one time a girl killed her sister's man.

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<v Speaker 4>What just to get the money because he was a

0:33:35.760 --> 0:33:38.960
<v Speaker 4>lottery winner. He won the lottery and he was taking

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<v Speaker 4>care of the entire family. So married the girl's sister,

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<v Speaker 4>and so the girl had it was her and her

0:33:44.600 --> 0:33:47.680
<v Speaker 4>bum boyfriend, and they both needed some more money, even

0:33:47.680 --> 0:33:50.080
<v Speaker 4>though he was already fronting their lifestyle. So they decided

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<v Speaker 4>why they were going to kill him, and they were

0:33:52.760 --> 0:33:55.840
<v Speaker 4>supposed to rob him, but they ended up killing him.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there's a lot for insurance.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I'm not going to hold you if I want

0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:03.080
<v Speaker 3>motherfucking lotto. I'm just disappearing, y'all.

0:34:03.080 --> 0:34:03.680
<v Speaker 2>Ain't gonna know.

0:34:04.440 --> 0:34:08.160
<v Speaker 3>Podcast over, I'm in out of the country. Oh yeah, listen,

0:34:08.200 --> 0:34:09.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm disappearing.

0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:10.840
<v Speaker 1>Name change a bit, put a wig on.

0:34:11.000 --> 0:34:12.719
<v Speaker 2>Here's a good question, though, I'm gonna have to get

0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:16.080
<v Speaker 2>a boy's change would make you fall off the earth

0:34:16.120 --> 0:34:19.520
<v Speaker 2>because I recently was talking about this with Reese Tisa, right,

0:34:20.480 --> 0:34:22.600
<v Speaker 2>So we did an episode on Patreon me and it

0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:24.640
<v Speaker 2>came about Resa and he's like, she about to quit

0:34:24.680 --> 0:34:25.839
<v Speaker 2>a job, sooner, she about to be rich.

0:34:25.880 --> 0:34:28.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, she's not gonna quit her job. He's like,

0:34:28.160 --> 0:34:28.880
<v Speaker 1>of course she is.

0:34:29.160 --> 0:34:33.400
<v Speaker 2>She's about to make mad bread. And I'm thinking to myself. Nah,

0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:36.440
<v Speaker 2>you not quitting a job for brand deals, are you?

0:34:37.160 --> 0:34:42.080
<v Speaker 2>So it postes the question how much money would make

0:34:42.120 --> 0:34:45.440
<v Speaker 2>you stop everything else? Because to me, if I weren't

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<v Speaker 2>like three million, four million dollars, I wouldn't no, because

0:34:48.600 --> 0:34:51.120
<v Speaker 2>that could be gone. How much money would make you

0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:52.480
<v Speaker 2>cut everything off and move?

0:34:53.960 --> 0:34:57.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm a cheap host, so my price is probably a

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<v Speaker 1>little lower. She was stopping at three million. Really, nah,

0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:03.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean I keep going at three million.

0:35:03.760 --> 0:35:05.320
<v Speaker 4>But if you know, when you hit those big money

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<v Speaker 4>like the two hundred million, one hundred and fifty million,

0:35:08.400 --> 0:35:10.040
<v Speaker 4>but then you have to think about you're giving half

0:35:10.120 --> 0:35:11.200
<v Speaker 4>that back in taxes.

0:35:11.440 --> 0:35:13.160
<v Speaker 2>No, I'm going somewhere without taxes.

0:35:13.360 --> 0:35:16.960
<v Speaker 1>But if you win the lottery in America.

0:35:16.600 --> 0:35:19.839
<v Speaker 3>But maybe I'm going I don't know, bitch, I'm gonna

0:35:19.880 --> 0:35:22.600
<v Speaker 3>find it. There's somewhere, Oh, Switzerland, they'd be nice in

0:35:22.640 --> 0:35:24.520
<v Speaker 3>the banks of Song. You're gonna be a sovereign citizen.

0:35:24.640 --> 0:35:29.160
<v Speaker 3>Listen show will Hawaii's three percent? Will oh Whai is

0:35:29.160 --> 0:35:29.840
<v Speaker 3>only three percent?

0:35:29.920 --> 0:35:32.480
<v Speaker 2>And to be fair, the money going to Hawaiians as

0:35:32.520 --> 0:35:34.640
<v Speaker 2>indigenous people, that's a pretty like that's a good.

0:35:34.719 --> 0:35:36.239
<v Speaker 3>They don't want us there. I know you keep trying

0:35:36.280 --> 0:35:39.040
<v Speaker 3>to make it o. Hawaii does not want us there, broke.

0:35:39.680 --> 0:35:41.440
<v Speaker 3>They don't want toys, y'all know we he want to

0:35:41.480 --> 0:35:42.920
<v Speaker 3>go back to Hawaii, and I'd be like, bro they

0:35:43.000 --> 0:35:43.800
<v Speaker 3>do not want.

0:35:45.400 --> 0:35:46.480
<v Speaker 2>About the indigenous people.

0:35:46.480 --> 0:35:48.799
<v Speaker 3>They don't want you to have, bitch, get your black

0:35:48.840 --> 0:35:50.240
<v Speaker 3>hats off the goddamn island.

0:35:50.480 --> 0:35:53.239
<v Speaker 1>When COVID hit, it was very difficult for businesses to.

0:35:53.239 --> 0:35:54.839
<v Speaker 2>Stay aflow because there was.

0:35:54.840 --> 0:35:56.320
<v Speaker 1>No money pouring into the comedy.

0:35:56.960 --> 0:35:59.600
<v Speaker 2>Then, on top of even Maui with the fires you

0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:02.279
<v Speaker 2>remember that happened. All of them were talking about how

0:36:02.320 --> 0:36:04.200
<v Speaker 2>grateful they are that we were on their part of

0:36:04.239 --> 0:36:06.360
<v Speaker 2>the land, that we were cut. They don't even like

0:36:06.400 --> 0:36:08.600
<v Speaker 2>what Oprah doing for them. They said, just get the

0:36:08.600 --> 0:36:11.520
<v Speaker 2>fuck out, y'all. We got this, We got the fires.

0:36:11.520 --> 0:36:13.840
<v Speaker 2>Because y'all keep coming over. Now, I feel like the

0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:15.319
<v Speaker 2>portion of you that wants to call the police, well,

0:36:15.320 --> 0:36:20.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm going, okay, now let's dig into it.

0:36:20.560 --> 0:36:23.480
<v Speaker 1>So Dad tell me, y'all have some stories. We really

0:36:23.600 --> 0:36:24.239
<v Speaker 1>want to know.

0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:28.879
<v Speaker 2>Who are some of the craziest bitches y'all In womb Raider.

0:36:28.920 --> 0:36:30.560
<v Speaker 2>I actually don't feel like I can come back from that.

0:36:30.719 --> 0:36:34.040
<v Speaker 2>Womb is crazy. That's that's pretty wild. By the way,

0:36:34.840 --> 0:36:38.600
<v Speaker 2>for the womb raider stories, for most other cases, are

0:36:38.640 --> 0:36:40.440
<v Speaker 2>they mostly women that they know.

0:36:41.719 --> 0:36:45.640
<v Speaker 1>They'll be They will befriend these women on the internet,

0:36:46.080 --> 0:36:51.240
<v Speaker 1>like these mommy but sometimes mommy talk about them, says.

0:36:51.320 --> 0:36:55.120
<v Speaker 4>These mommy Facebook groups, these little support groups. These women

0:36:55.160 --> 0:36:57.440
<v Speaker 4>are out here faking their pregnancy. You see it all

0:36:57.480 --> 0:36:59.319
<v Speaker 4>the time where people are faking their pregnancy and they

0:36:59.320 --> 0:37:00.560
<v Speaker 4>get close to these women.

0:37:01.040 --> 0:37:02.320
<v Speaker 1>They trust these women.

0:37:02.360 --> 0:37:05.279
<v Speaker 4>They throw each other baby showers, and in reality, these

0:37:05.280 --> 0:37:07.360
<v Speaker 4>women are not pregnant.

0:37:06.600 --> 0:37:09.200
<v Speaker 1>It is an actual thing.

0:37:09.360 --> 0:37:11.200
<v Speaker 4>Like my friends that just had babies, they were like,

0:37:11.239 --> 0:37:14.480
<v Speaker 4>we were super selective about the information that we took

0:37:14.480 --> 0:37:15.480
<v Speaker 4>about who we reached out to.

0:37:15.480 --> 0:37:15.560
<v Speaker 2>It.

0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:17.120
<v Speaker 4>People were like, oh, we should be friends, we should

0:37:17.120 --> 0:37:19.319
<v Speaker 4>be mommy friends. You'd be like, we're not making mommy friends.

0:37:19.360 --> 0:37:21.600
<v Speaker 4>Were just on these spacebook groups for information they.

0:37:23.120 --> 0:37:24.760
<v Speaker 1>Are stealing. Wow.

0:37:26.080 --> 0:37:29.320
<v Speaker 2>Yes, So you cut it open.

0:37:29.960 --> 0:37:34.520
<v Speaker 4>Because technically you're supposed to survive, right, It's a cesarean section,

0:37:34.840 --> 0:37:38.960
<v Speaker 4>and so if you're if you're you're technically you're supposed

0:37:39.000 --> 0:37:41.120
<v Speaker 4>to survive. But if they're bleeding out, you don't know

0:37:41.120 --> 0:37:42.920
<v Speaker 4>how to take care of them. You don't know how

0:37:42.960 --> 0:37:44.400
<v Speaker 4>to make sure that they're sewn up correctly.

0:37:44.440 --> 0:37:47.480
<v Speaker 2>They're going, yeah, how are they getting them to the

0:37:47.520 --> 0:37:49.520
<v Speaker 2>point where like you can even cut their stomach open,

0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:50.160
<v Speaker 2>Like they're.

0:37:50.000 --> 0:37:51.920
<v Speaker 1>Push them, they're not much pregnant.

0:37:51.960 --> 0:37:56.000
<v Speaker 4>Push them they fall cut or some one she stabbed

0:37:56.000 --> 0:37:57.600
<v Speaker 4>her in the neck and then cut her. She was

0:37:57.680 --> 0:37:59.880
<v Speaker 4>just making sure that the abdom was taken care of

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<v Speaker 4>and the babies survive.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, can you imagine you're born?

0:38:05.960 --> 0:38:07.640
<v Speaker 2>No?

0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:10.680
<v Speaker 1>No, I no, just know wherever you're taking this one

0:38:10.760 --> 0:38:11.000
<v Speaker 1>of them.

0:38:11.040 --> 0:38:14.920
<v Speaker 4>The where the husband was waiting at the altar. They

0:38:14.920 --> 0:38:17.359
<v Speaker 4>said that he went to the hospital because somebody finally

0:38:17.360 --> 0:38:19.359
<v Speaker 4>told him to go to the hospital and they saw

0:38:19.440 --> 0:38:20.960
<v Speaker 4>and they saw the daughter. He was, where's my daughter?

0:38:20.960 --> 0:38:22.759
<v Speaker 4>They were like, sorry, this is not your child. He

0:38:23.200 --> 0:38:26.160
<v Speaker 4>threw a fit, they said. All the newspaper articles were

0:38:26.200 --> 0:38:28.560
<v Speaker 4>like he was not having it because of course the

0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:30.120
<v Speaker 4>white people write. I was like, he was probably going

0:38:30.200 --> 0:38:32.480
<v Speaker 4>up and down the house hospitals like this is my child,

0:38:32.960 --> 0:38:35.160
<v Speaker 4>do a DNA test, doing a DNA test.

0:38:35.160 --> 0:38:38.320
<v Speaker 1>But the woman, the murderess, she was refusing medical service.

0:38:38.320 --> 0:38:39.160
<v Speaker 1>And you know you can do that.

0:38:39.239 --> 0:38:41.960
<v Speaker 4>So if she's refusing to be tested or for them

0:38:41.960 --> 0:38:44.560
<v Speaker 4>to look at her, they and she says this is

0:38:44.600 --> 0:38:47.680
<v Speaker 4>my newborn baby. They're inclined to believe her. So it

0:38:47.719 --> 0:38:50.279
<v Speaker 4>wasn't until he made a huge fuss and he was like, no, no,

0:38:50.400 --> 0:38:51.280
<v Speaker 4>this woman is crazy.

0:38:51.360 --> 0:38:53.520
<v Speaker 1>That is my child, not her child.

0:38:53.640 --> 0:38:55.960
<v Speaker 4>Until then finally they did a DNA test and he

0:38:56.080 --> 0:38:57.399
<v Speaker 4>was able to take his daughter home.

0:38:57.760 --> 0:39:00.040
<v Speaker 2>And what I mean the wife didn't make it.

0:39:00.160 --> 0:39:02.560
<v Speaker 1>She didn't make it on their wedding day.

0:39:04.719 --> 0:39:11.200
<v Speaker 2>The psychological like warfare in his own life following that instance,

0:39:11.400 --> 0:39:13.600
<v Speaker 2>like a new theory. Here's when I'd become a killer.

0:39:14.120 --> 0:39:16.880
<v Speaker 2>Put me in jail for some other ship. Then a

0:39:16.960 --> 0:39:19.160
<v Speaker 2>bitch like that coming to jail, I could at help,

0:39:19.560 --> 0:39:22.520
<v Speaker 2>just you know, that's that's ridiculous, Like I do believe

0:39:22.640 --> 0:39:25.560
<v Speaker 2>in like ganging up on people that are terrible, Like

0:39:25.600 --> 0:39:26.879
<v Speaker 2>I think that's okay.

0:39:27.000 --> 0:39:31.040
<v Speaker 1>The jail politics. You hear that, Yeah, that's someone came

0:39:31.080 --> 0:39:33.400
<v Speaker 1>in there and did something with kids.

0:39:37.080 --> 0:39:40.279
<v Speaker 3>What are some other kinds of passion? Uh that really

0:39:40.320 --> 0:39:45.080
<v Speaker 3>stuck with you through doing this podcast? Mm hmm, you

0:39:45.160 --> 0:39:46.839
<v Speaker 3>got one brought to the.

0:39:46.800 --> 0:39:49.880
<v Speaker 1>Table test that's your favorite?

0:39:50.000 --> 0:39:51.480
<v Speaker 2>Favorite?

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<v Speaker 5>Verlina Wallace she was over in the UK, Yes she was,

0:39:57.480 --> 0:40:02.400
<v Speaker 5>she was in the UK. She had at HIV dating

0:40:02.440 --> 0:40:05.040
<v Speaker 5>life kind of slowed down. She joined this HIV chat

0:40:05.120 --> 0:40:07.600
<v Speaker 5>room of other people with HIV, and like they learned

0:40:07.600 --> 0:40:10.279
<v Speaker 5>that they can start dating and you know, having like

0:40:10.280 --> 0:40:12.359
<v Speaker 5>a real life or whatever. So she falls in love

0:40:12.400 --> 0:40:16.160
<v Speaker 5>with this guy, white guy, white guy. Okay, but she

0:40:16.239 --> 0:40:19.120
<v Speaker 5>isn't being really abusive, like you need to do this

0:40:19.239 --> 0:40:22.480
<v Speaker 5>and do that. Like she's just mean, right, financially abusive,

0:40:22.680 --> 0:40:26.800
<v Speaker 5>physically spending all his money, like just she's not great.

0:40:26.920 --> 0:40:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay. When you said financially abusive, I said, Mandy and

0:40:29.000 --> 0:40:30.040
<v Speaker 1>I are financially.

0:40:33.560 --> 0:40:38.439
<v Speaker 5>And so he decides that he's going to leave, and

0:40:38.800 --> 0:40:42.480
<v Speaker 5>at first, she like attempts suicide. Who knows how real

0:40:42.560 --> 0:40:44.839
<v Speaker 5>it was, you know, because she's doing it to get

0:40:44.920 --> 0:40:47.680
<v Speaker 5>him back, so obviously are not trying to die, right,

0:40:49.000 --> 0:40:51.480
<v Speaker 5>But of course he comes back like, oh my god,

0:40:51.560 --> 0:40:53.719
<v Speaker 5>I left and look what she tried to do to herself.

0:40:53.719 --> 0:40:54.319
<v Speaker 5>I care about her.

0:40:54.320 --> 0:40:55.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't want her to hurt.

0:40:55.080 --> 0:40:57.120
<v Speaker 5>So he stays for a little while and he's like,

0:40:57.160 --> 0:41:01.400
<v Speaker 5>I can't take it anymore. He leaves again, and he

0:41:01.600 --> 0:41:03.960
<v Speaker 5>like starts dating this new woman. He's trying to move

0:41:04.000 --> 0:41:07.640
<v Speaker 5>on with his life. She's not having it. So she

0:41:07.680 --> 0:41:12.880
<v Speaker 5>gets on Amazon and she orders some acid you order.

0:41:12.760 --> 0:41:17.600
<v Speaker 2>Acid on Amazon. Clean t wait what no like acid? Acid?

0:41:17.880 --> 0:41:22.960
<v Speaker 2>Like what do you need acid for? Like like I know,

0:41:23.080 --> 0:41:24.560
<v Speaker 2>I know, like I've heard people get it thrown on them,

0:41:24.600 --> 0:41:25.200
<v Speaker 2>but I'm saying.

0:41:25.040 --> 0:41:28.680
<v Speaker 5>People were like you can use her drains or or

0:41:28.719 --> 0:41:31.160
<v Speaker 5>even like designers like a shid washing.

0:41:32.520 --> 0:41:36.640
<v Speaker 3>I said, ye, no, bright Amazon, y'all gotta y'all got man.

0:41:37.200 --> 0:41:39.400
<v Speaker 3>So she ordered acid on Amazon and did.

0:41:39.280 --> 0:41:39.719
<v Speaker 2>What with it?

0:41:39.719 --> 0:41:43.400
<v Speaker 5>You ordered acid on Amazon? And I think like she

0:41:43.520 --> 0:41:45.680
<v Speaker 5>had called him over she was like I'm not feeling

0:41:45.680 --> 0:41:47.000
<v Speaker 5>well whatever, and it was like, okay, I'm come to

0:41:47.000 --> 0:41:48.719
<v Speaker 5>spend the night with you again because I care with you,

0:41:48.760 --> 0:41:50.920
<v Speaker 5>like I'm gonna make sure you're okay. But he's still

0:41:50.960 --> 0:41:57.320
<v Speaker 5>with this other girl and he said she always keeps

0:41:57.360 --> 0:42:00.000
<v Speaker 5>a cup of water on her nightstand, but this time

0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:01.879
<v Speaker 5>instead of a cup of water, it was a cup

0:42:01.920 --> 0:42:06.200
<v Speaker 5>of acid. And she just like he's in the bed

0:42:06.239 --> 0:42:08.040
<v Speaker 5>and she gets and she just throws it all over

0:42:08.120 --> 0:42:13.600
<v Speaker 5>him and his skin literally starts melting. There's like this

0:42:13.680 --> 0:42:16.600
<v Speaker 5>picture of the doorbell like as he was running out

0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:19.719
<v Speaker 5>the house and it's like corroded and everything, and he's

0:42:19.800 --> 0:42:22.560
<v Speaker 5>in the he's in the streets screaming.

0:42:23.320 --> 0:42:25.160
<v Speaker 1>It's as it is. Acid is acid.

0:42:25.280 --> 0:42:28.680
<v Speaker 5>His neighbor said it sounded like a fox was getting hurt.

0:42:28.719 --> 0:42:32.680
<v Speaker 5>He didn't think anything of it. Another person was like,

0:42:32.880 --> 0:42:34.960
<v Speaker 5>I thought they was like on acid like tabs. I

0:42:34.960 --> 0:42:36.799
<v Speaker 5>thought he was tripping, you know. And then they had

0:42:36.840 --> 0:42:38.480
<v Speaker 5>to come out there and they see him melting. They're

0:42:38.480 --> 0:42:40.040
<v Speaker 5>like trying of literally melting in the street.

0:42:40.320 --> 0:42:43.040
<v Speaker 1>They had to get him in a cold shower like

0:42:43.160 --> 0:42:44.160
<v Speaker 1>to try and stop it.

0:42:44.200 --> 0:42:47.120
<v Speaker 5>But I think what eighty percent of him was like burnt,

0:42:47.640 --> 0:42:50.040
<v Speaker 5>and so then he just had to go surgery.

0:42:50.040 --> 0:42:54.080
<v Speaker 1>At the surgery, he burnt his vocal cords. He was

0:42:54.719 --> 0:42:58.320
<v Speaker 1>he had like only two small patches on his back

0:42:58.640 --> 0:43:02.200
<v Speaker 1>that were not burned. Like he couldn't speak anymore.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, he could at first, but he was blind. And

0:43:07.560 --> 0:43:11.200
<v Speaker 5>then he kept having like he would have complications and

0:43:11.200 --> 0:43:12.960
<v Speaker 5>they would have to like crick him, and they did

0:43:13.000 --> 0:43:15.920
<v Speaker 5>it so many times that his vocal cords stopped working.

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<v Speaker 2>For me, she could stay in.

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<v Speaker 5>She didn't kill him, right, So she didn't kill him.

0:43:22.120 --> 0:43:23.360
<v Speaker 5>It was just an assault charge.

0:43:23.440 --> 0:43:27.440
<v Speaker 2>Right, Wait, that was not an attempted murder, that was

0:43:27.560 --> 0:43:28.760
<v Speaker 2>only assault.

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<v Speaker 5>So she's in jail during that time for that. So

0:43:31.920 --> 0:43:36.640
<v Speaker 5>then he he's he he gets it's like two years.

0:43:36.640 --> 0:43:39.040
<v Speaker 5>He's sick of it, Like he can't talk, he can't walk,

0:43:39.080 --> 0:43:41.120
<v Speaker 5>he has no quality of life, he has no quality

0:43:41.120 --> 0:43:43.480
<v Speaker 5>of life. So he moves to a country where it's

0:43:43.600 --> 0:43:49.840
<v Speaker 5>legal to do medical suicide, and you know, he kills

0:43:49.880 --> 0:43:52.440
<v Speaker 5>himself and then his dad. When they went back and

0:43:52.480 --> 0:43:56.320
<v Speaker 5>like reviewed her charges, Like does this now count as murder?

0:43:57.160 --> 0:43:57.759
<v Speaker 1>Wow?

0:43:57.880 --> 0:44:01.080
<v Speaker 5>Because technically what you did let to his death, but

0:44:01.200 --> 0:44:03.799
<v Speaker 5>also it was a medical suicide.

0:44:03.960 --> 0:44:09.279
<v Speaker 2>I see what that's your favorite? Wow? If y'all can

0:44:09.280 --> 0:44:13.000
<v Speaker 2>see your face, Oh yeah, that's that's extensive. That's extensive.

0:44:13.040 --> 0:44:15.200
<v Speaker 2>What about yours? Okay, yeah, give us your give us

0:44:15.200 --> 0:44:17.960
<v Speaker 2>your favor before. My favorite is Daphne, right, Okay.

0:44:18.000 --> 0:44:23.799
<v Speaker 4>So Daphne is deaf, and she grew up kind of

0:44:23.800 --> 0:44:25.880
<v Speaker 4>in a deaf community. She lived in a deaf community,

0:44:25.920 --> 0:44:28.120
<v Speaker 4>and she had a girlfriend, white woman, and she loved

0:44:28.120 --> 0:44:29.399
<v Speaker 4>her white woman very very much.

0:44:29.560 --> 0:44:31.160
<v Speaker 2>We need to get away from a racial day.

0:44:32.280 --> 0:44:33.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it ain't.

0:44:33.560 --> 0:44:38.600
<v Speaker 4>Al she loved she loved her white woman very very much.

0:44:39.120 --> 0:44:42.400
<v Speaker 4>And her white woman made a new friend because they

0:44:42.440 --> 0:44:46.239
<v Speaker 4>went to like, like the community that area had a

0:44:46.400 --> 0:44:48.920
<v Speaker 4>huge deaf community, so they would do things in the

0:44:49.320 --> 0:44:50.920
<v Speaker 4>like bingo night or whatever.

0:44:51.400 --> 0:44:56.759
<v Speaker 1>So she made a friend, so I don't know the

0:44:56.920 --> 0:44:59.719
<v Speaker 1>pably dea.

0:45:00.160 --> 0:45:03.239
<v Speaker 5>They hold up the number on a projector something like.

0:45:04.960 --> 0:45:09.320
<v Speaker 1>I just made up how I made up big o

0:45:09.400 --> 0:45:09.640
<v Speaker 1>And now.

0:45:12.920 --> 0:45:14.799
<v Speaker 2>A lot of people they're like using a lot of

0:45:14.800 --> 0:45:15.920
<v Speaker 2>signaling and hand movements.

0:45:16.000 --> 0:45:21.560
<v Speaker 1>So and you could also sign like B not okay, Yeah,

0:45:21.640 --> 0:45:22.080
<v Speaker 1>I love that.

0:45:22.120 --> 0:45:22.960
<v Speaker 2>We walked through that.

0:45:23.480 --> 0:45:28.439
<v Speaker 4>So her white woman makes a new friend and they

0:45:28.520 --> 0:45:30.840
<v Speaker 4>are communicating. It seems like they're flirting, and Daphne is

0:45:30.840 --> 0:45:34.160
<v Speaker 4>getting very jealous because I'm not my white woman, and

0:45:34.200 --> 0:45:40.160
<v Speaker 4>so she she then starts sending emails to the new

0:45:40.400 --> 0:45:44.480
<v Speaker 4>friend just friend, apparently friend, like I'm talking to her,

0:45:44.600 --> 0:45:46.560
<v Speaker 4>you're not talk to her. And at this time they're

0:45:46.560 --> 0:45:49.799
<v Speaker 4>all like living off of Social Security checks, disability checks,

0:45:49.800 --> 0:45:52.920
<v Speaker 4>things like that, and so Daphne has had it with

0:45:53.680 --> 0:45:55.520
<v Speaker 4>her white woman flirting with this other lady.

0:45:55.600 --> 0:45:58.120
<v Speaker 1>So she then sends.

0:45:57.840 --> 0:46:00.120
<v Speaker 4>Her emails like, Hey, why don't you meet me at

0:46:00.160 --> 0:46:02.440
<v Speaker 4>the pizza hud, let's have a conversation because I want

0:46:02.440 --> 0:46:05.000
<v Speaker 4>to plan her white woman's birthday party. They had already

0:46:05.000 --> 0:46:08.600
<v Speaker 4>got into a like public altercation at one point before.

0:46:08.719 --> 0:46:10.560
<v Speaker 1>So this is back in the time where Pizza hug

0:46:10.560 --> 0:46:11.120
<v Speaker 1>you could sit down.

0:46:11.120 --> 0:46:13.240
<v Speaker 2>They had the buffet and they.

0:46:13.080 --> 0:46:13.880
<v Speaker 1>Had the little lighting.

0:46:13.960 --> 0:46:17.200
<v Speaker 4>So they were there and instead of actually sitting down

0:46:17.320 --> 0:46:20.280
<v Speaker 4>at Pizza Hud, Daphne got her in the car. Daphne

0:46:20.280 --> 0:46:22.600
<v Speaker 4>got her in the car and took her back to

0:46:22.640 --> 0:46:24.680
<v Speaker 4>her house. She's staying at the basement of some place,

0:46:24.760 --> 0:46:27.200
<v Speaker 4>this wherever she could afford. So she's at the basement

0:46:27.200 --> 0:46:29.279
<v Speaker 4>of this place and she kills this woman and then

0:46:29.320 --> 0:46:31.080
<v Speaker 4>she's like, okay, what do I do with the body?

0:46:31.560 --> 0:46:33.320
<v Speaker 4>So she didn't have enough money, so she had to

0:46:33.360 --> 0:46:34.879
<v Speaker 4>wait to the next day because that's when her social

0:46:34.880 --> 0:46:35.840
<v Speaker 4>Security check dropped.

0:46:37.040 --> 0:46:39.640
<v Speaker 2>So you killed the bitch and you got to wait

0:46:39.680 --> 0:46:40.160
<v Speaker 2>on a check.

0:46:43.280 --> 0:46:45.200
<v Speaker 1>She didn't have the budget for the murder.

0:46:46.480 --> 0:46:48.839
<v Speaker 4>So then she goes to the she gets her social

0:46:48.840 --> 0:46:51.239
<v Speaker 4>Security check, She goes to home depots. She talked, she

0:46:51.719 --> 0:46:53.520
<v Speaker 4>signed to the guy, and it took him a while

0:46:53.560 --> 0:46:56.239
<v Speaker 4>to realize that she was looking for a chainsaw. So

0:46:56.239 --> 0:46:58.280
<v Speaker 4>she ends up buying the cheapest chainsaw she could find.

0:46:58.520 --> 0:47:00.600
<v Speaker 4>She goes back and she starts type chopping up this

0:47:00.640 --> 0:47:03.600
<v Speaker 4>woman and this woman. Of course it's a chainsaw, even

0:47:03.719 --> 0:47:05.760
<v Speaker 4>chainsaws on wood. Everything flies.

0:47:05.840 --> 0:47:07.359
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say it's loud, and she can't hear

0:47:07.360 --> 0:47:10.520
<v Speaker 1>how loud. Her roommates really they hear things.

0:47:10.520 --> 0:47:12.279
<v Speaker 4>But also you could be playing music really loud to

0:47:12.320 --> 0:47:15.880
<v Speaker 4>hear the vibrations or whatever, so no one's really hearing

0:47:15.960 --> 0:47:19.480
<v Speaker 4>this happen. She chops up the woman and finally the

0:47:19.480 --> 0:47:21.879
<v Speaker 4>girl's family is looking for her. Everybody's trying to figure

0:47:21.880 --> 0:47:24.319
<v Speaker 4>out what happened. They look in the dumpsters and they're

0:47:24.360 --> 0:47:25.719
<v Speaker 4>just like, you know, when you look for a body,

0:47:25.760 --> 0:47:27.239
<v Speaker 4>you're starting to think the worst. You start looking in

0:47:27.320 --> 0:47:31.840
<v Speaker 4>landfields and they start finding her clothing, They start finding

0:47:31.880 --> 0:47:33.840
<v Speaker 4>like small pieces of her body, and so then they

0:47:33.880 --> 0:47:34.799
<v Speaker 4>start looking at her email.

0:47:34.840 --> 0:47:36.839
<v Speaker 1>Who was she talking to? Then everything brings them back

0:47:36.840 --> 0:47:37.560
<v Speaker 1>to Daphne.

0:47:38.239 --> 0:47:39.960
<v Speaker 4>So the police go and they're like, Daphne, we need

0:47:40.000 --> 0:47:42.480
<v Speaker 4>to have a conversation with you, and they searched the house.

0:47:42.719 --> 0:47:44.239
<v Speaker 1>She was like, nig can't no.

0:47:44.400 --> 0:47:46.120
<v Speaker 2>There was chunks and pieces everywhere.

0:47:46.160 --> 0:47:48.440
<v Speaker 1>There were not only were there chunks of pieces everywhere.

0:47:48.440 --> 0:47:49.799
<v Speaker 1>She did a horrible job cleaning up.

0:47:49.920 --> 0:47:53.680
<v Speaker 4>But instead of like, I don't know, a rag, soap

0:47:53.680 --> 0:47:56.279
<v Speaker 4>and water, she decides that she's gonna go I guess,

0:47:56.280 --> 0:47:58.360
<v Speaker 4>back to home depot, get some oops, paint got a

0:47:58.400 --> 0:48:00.919
<v Speaker 4>big thing of blue paint and just starts painting over

0:48:01.000 --> 0:48:04.560
<v Speaker 4>the brain matter that's on the wall and just paint

0:48:04.640 --> 0:48:07.040
<v Speaker 4>even the floor, just starts painting the floor.

0:48:08.360 --> 0:48:10.480
<v Speaker 1>Wood everywhere.

0:48:09.680 --> 0:48:13.600
<v Speaker 4>But it's like she was just like we're just gonna Daphne, right,

0:48:14.360 --> 0:48:17.920
<v Speaker 4>and they're like we can see the chunks of brain

0:48:18.200 --> 0:48:19.319
<v Speaker 4>with blue over it.

0:48:19.400 --> 0:48:21.160
<v Speaker 1>Like she didn't even try to wipe it down.

0:48:21.880 --> 0:48:23.279
<v Speaker 2>So she did.

0:48:23.440 --> 0:48:26.080
<v Speaker 1>She goes to court and then even those cases where.

0:48:26.080 --> 0:48:29.080
<v Speaker 2>You can't please sanity there right, and over brain matter,

0:48:29.239 --> 0:48:32.800
<v Speaker 2>not to say death lesbian. Listen, Yeah, the bitch can't

0:48:32.800 --> 0:48:36.280
<v Speaker 2>be okay doing that, Like you gotta plead in sanity

0:48:36.320 --> 0:48:36.680
<v Speaker 2>as well.

0:48:36.920 --> 0:48:37.120
<v Speaker 1>Well.

0:48:37.160 --> 0:48:40.520
<v Speaker 4>And here's the thing, when obviously we know who did

0:48:40.520 --> 0:48:42.120
<v Speaker 4>the crime and who should be punished for the crime.

0:48:42.160 --> 0:48:43.719
<v Speaker 4>But when she was in jail, I mean when she

0:48:43.760 --> 0:48:47.040
<v Speaker 4>was in court, they barely had an ASL interpreter for her.

0:48:47.080 --> 0:48:49.200
<v Speaker 4>She could barely communicate with her lawyer. So now the

0:48:49.320 --> 0:48:51.840
<v Speaker 4>question is did she get a fair trial? We all

0:48:51.960 --> 0:48:53.360
<v Speaker 4>kind of can figure out what the ending of the

0:48:53.400 --> 0:48:55.680
<v Speaker 4>trial is going to be. But you are an American,

0:48:55.760 --> 0:48:59.680
<v Speaker 4>You are an American citizen. There is the American Disability Acting.

0:48:59.680 --> 0:49:01.160
<v Speaker 4>You should be able to have a fair trial.

0:49:01.160 --> 0:49:04.640
<v Speaker 5>You should have had an understand as it's going, so

0:49:04.680 --> 0:49:07.200
<v Speaker 5>that even if she wanted to plead insanity, she had

0:49:07.239 --> 0:49:09.560
<v Speaker 5>the fair opportunity to do so.

0:49:09.560 --> 0:49:11.080
<v Speaker 1>So you see how.

0:49:10.680 --> 0:49:12.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't like how you really be looking at in

0:49:12.560 --> 0:49:16.600
<v Speaker 2>the little loophole like wow, Like I kind of like

0:49:16.640 --> 0:49:19.600
<v Speaker 2>it because you have to be non binary, right, like right,

0:49:20.960 --> 0:49:23.919
<v Speaker 2>I feel like you and I are so what's the word,

0:49:24.000 --> 0:49:26.440
<v Speaker 2>not opinionated, but like we would be reading a story

0:49:26.480 --> 0:49:28.120
<v Speaker 2>and we wouldn't be able to finish, be like, oh no,

0:49:28.160 --> 0:49:30.360
<v Speaker 2>that nigga gotta go to jail. Like you really have

0:49:30.480 --> 0:49:32.960
<v Speaker 2>to take your mind out of this ship when you're

0:49:33.000 --> 0:49:33.719
<v Speaker 2>reporting on it.

0:49:34.320 --> 0:49:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Damn okay, crazy, sir.

0:49:37.680 --> 0:49:39.840
<v Speaker 4>It was the Dick was so good that I couldn't

0:49:39.880 --> 0:49:42.480
<v Speaker 4>remember anything that happened, And next thing I know, I

0:49:42.520 --> 0:49:44.319
<v Speaker 4>woke up and he was dead.

0:49:44.719 --> 0:49:48.400
<v Speaker 2>That's crazy. Yeah, I feel like I was so engaged

0:49:48.440 --> 0:49:51.080
<v Speaker 2>in this episode. I can't imagine how fast y'all are

0:49:51.120 --> 0:49:55.719
<v Speaker 2>running to subscribe. No, ladies, please tell everybody where to

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<v Speaker 1>What days it dropped? Because it better not be on

0:50:00.120 --> 0:50:02.000
<v Speaker 1>our shit Monday. It is not.

0:50:02.120 --> 0:50:05.239
<v Speaker 4>It is on Friday, So go ahead, and add to

0:50:05.320 --> 0:50:08.759
<v Speaker 4>your podcast rotation. We come out every Friday. Sister Sue

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0:50:16.160 --> 0:50:19.040
<v Speaker 4>it's sisters who kill pod, Sis who kill podcast. You

0:50:19.040 --> 0:50:21.759
<v Speaker 4>can find us pretty much everywhere. You can find us

0:50:21.760 --> 0:50:23.480
<v Speaker 4>on YouTube, but you're just gonna get our short content

0:50:23.480 --> 0:50:25.800
<v Speaker 4>that you wout on TikTok because we are audio only.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say, you guys do a phenomenal job on

0:50:28.760 --> 0:50:32.400
<v Speaker 2>the social media's with the pictures and the breakdown and

0:50:32.760 --> 0:50:35.160
<v Speaker 2>sending people to see how crazy these people are with

0:50:35.160 --> 0:50:37.399
<v Speaker 2>the episodes. That's how I found you guys, and then

0:50:37.600 --> 0:50:39.719
<v Speaker 2>see that you guys also work with Alex Reyos. Yes,

0:50:41.840 --> 0:50:44.320
<v Speaker 2>your faces on this episode, y'all are beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, Okay, y'all's gonna have to come back and see

0:50:46.680 --> 0:50:48.919
<v Speaker 2>us another day and listen to them on audio only.

0:50:49.400 --> 0:50:53.120
<v Speaker 2>But seriously, such a fun episode, like I can't wait

0:50:53.200 --> 0:50:55.440
<v Speaker 2>guys so much. Hey, y'all, if y'all want to hear,

0:50:55.480 --> 0:50:57.200
<v Speaker 2>maybe we need to talk about you crime. She might

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<v Speaker 2>is on. I ain't gonna hold you. I don't even

0:51:03.239 --> 0:51:03.920
<v Speaker 2>want to do it anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>y'all we out and about and we out today. Thank

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<v Speaker 3>you for tuning in to you had another episode of

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<v Speaker 3>Horrible Decisions.

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<v Speaker 1>You would not also have heard of Baby Reindeer.

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<v Speaker 6>And It's Insane.

0:51:39.520 --> 0:51:43.000
<v Speaker 2>Now Mandy hadn't watched it, so I had to get

0:51:43.000 --> 0:51:46.399
<v Speaker 2>in and talk about Baby Reindeer before everybody forgets about it.

0:51:47.360 --> 0:51:49.799
<v Speaker 2>This is let me type in baby Reindeer on my.

0:51:49.719 --> 0:51:51.759
<v Speaker 6>Phone on Oh I just got some tea on the

0:51:51.760 --> 0:51:52.239
<v Speaker 6>show too.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I can't.

0:51:53.320 --> 0:51:56.319
<v Speaker 2>So this is the text messages I got about it.

0:51:56.400 --> 0:52:01.880
<v Speaker 2>I just typed it in. Yeah, girl baby is insane

0:52:02.160 --> 0:52:06.239
<v Speaker 2>from Breonda. Next text message, please watch it. Actually it's

0:52:06.280 --> 0:52:07.040
<v Speaker 2>a little too much.

0:52:07.480 --> 0:52:11.680
<v Speaker 1>The key woulds April twenty second, Girl Baby raindeals on Netflix.

0:52:11.239 --> 0:52:14.960
<v Speaker 2>And it's wild. I did text my man Baby Reindeer

0:52:15.080 --> 0:52:18.759
<v Speaker 2>question mark. Then someone else screenshots Cardi b talking about

0:52:18.760 --> 0:52:23.239
<v Speaker 2>Baby Reindeer. Now spoiler alert. Yes, there's not really that

0:52:23.400 --> 0:52:25.680
<v Speaker 2>much of a spoiler. Everybody been talking about how has

0:52:25.680 --> 0:52:29.240
<v Speaker 2>a lot of sexual violence in it episode four. However,

0:52:29.640 --> 0:52:31.480
<v Speaker 2>I think that it was okay for me to watch

0:52:31.520 --> 0:52:33.279
<v Speaker 2>because I was super prepared to see it.

0:52:33.520 --> 0:52:36.239
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it should. I feel like it should start with

0:52:36.840 --> 0:52:38.720
<v Speaker 6>a trigger warning. I feel like it's one of those shits.

0:52:38.719 --> 0:52:42.600
<v Speaker 6>Oh it did. Oh well girl, okay that episode did.

0:52:42.920 --> 0:52:45.360
<v Speaker 6>Oh you're right there, the whole show, the whole show?

0:52:45.480 --> 0:52:46.160
<v Speaker 1>Should.

0:52:46.400 --> 0:52:49.759
<v Speaker 6>I remember Angeli eaves when who told me to watch this?

0:52:49.800 --> 0:52:51.279
<v Speaker 6>She's like, you gotta watch Baby Raindeer. I'm like, what

0:52:51.360 --> 0:52:53.799
<v Speaker 6>is this? She told me? And then someone DM me

0:52:53.920 --> 0:52:55.800
<v Speaker 6>and told me, like some a fan dm me and

0:52:55.840 --> 0:52:57.759
<v Speaker 6>told me. I'm like, let me watch it. I got

0:52:57.760 --> 0:52:58.600
<v Speaker 6>to episode four.

0:52:59.520 --> 0:53:03.000
<v Speaker 2>It's like the recent teat so once you get to twenty, Yes,

0:53:03.200 --> 0:53:08.840
<v Speaker 2>what is Baby Reindeer? It's an eight episode Netflix series. Okay,

0:53:10.480 --> 0:53:11.840
<v Speaker 2>it's my goddamn podcast.

0:53:11.960 --> 0:53:12.520
<v Speaker 1>I know you're right.

0:53:12.560 --> 0:53:19.160
<v Speaker 2>So it is a seven episode show on Netflix about stalking. Yes,

0:53:19.239 --> 0:53:21.959
<v Speaker 2>all I know is about a crazy, big white girl.

0:53:22.239 --> 0:53:22.879
<v Speaker 1>This stalk is.

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<v Speaker 6>Somebody who deserves an oscar or oo or Emmy, whatever

0:53:28.280 --> 0:53:28.799
<v Speaker 6>they give them.

0:53:28.880 --> 0:53:31.160
<v Speaker 2>And I'm just kind of watching the shit like damn okay,

0:53:31.280 --> 0:53:33.920
<v Speaker 2>Like people were saying it doesn't get good, you know,

0:53:34.000 --> 0:53:34.920
<v Speaker 2>until the fourth episode.

0:53:34.920 --> 0:53:37.040
<v Speaker 1>I disagree. I enjoyed it.

0:53:37.080 --> 0:53:41.800
<v Speaker 2>What makes this show dope is this is a true story.

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<v Speaker 2>So as we're watching episode one, a woman walks into

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<v Speaker 2>a bar, she's kind of lying about her life. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a lawyer, I know famous people, I'm this, I'm that,

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like you can just tell someone's lonely, and

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<v Speaker 2>when you're watching it, it kind of becomes this thing

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<v Speaker 2>where you're like, okay, so why do you keep giving

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<v Speaker 2>this person attention? And what I learned and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if you've ever had this experience, but like it

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<v Speaker 2>made me think to myself, there are so many times

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to talk to someone and I kept going, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>are we leading people on? We do that shit.

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<v Speaker 6>I think it's like a guilt thing where people are

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<v Speaker 6>so worried just to let someone down or themselves to

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<v Speaker 6>turn someone down and tell him no, and it just

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<v Speaker 6>inherit or whatever. So then subconsciously or even consciously, they

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<v Speaker 6>just they're like, I'll just keep being nice. Are keep

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<v Speaker 6>being nice? Is like, but that's worse because now they

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<v Speaker 6>think there's hope. I'd rather just be like, nah, NIGGI

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<v Speaker 6>you want it true, because I like, I've had people

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<v Speaker 6>lead me on, and I'm like, nigga, if you ain't

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<v Speaker 6>trying to fuck those three billion people that are gay,

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<v Speaker 6>probably I don't know if that statistic it's true, it's not.

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<v Speaker 6>But my point is there's a lot of other people

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<v Speaker 6>I could be out here trying to fuck. Don't make

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<v Speaker 6>me waste my time.

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<v Speaker 1>And then here's the.

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<v Speaker 2>Other thing, right, I don't necessarily know if he was

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<v Speaker 2>leading her on, but what I will say, maybe he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't lead her on romantically, but there was a small

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<v Speaker 2>part of me that was like I would have he

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<v Speaker 2>was my friend too. He gave it, you get you

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<v Speaker 2>gave it. You gave a cookie.

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<v Speaker 1>What's that?

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<v Speaker 6>Give give cookie to a mouse of cookie or something

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<v Speaker 6>like that. That book that we used to read in kindergarten,

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<v Speaker 6>If you give a mouse of cookie?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what I'm talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, at least someone you don't know that book?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh it has a cookie and it's a white cover.

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<v Speaker 6>But yes, and it just and it leads to this

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<v Speaker 6>whole thing. Okay, Well, anyway, it's a book. It's a

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<v Speaker 6>very popular the people in the comments are going to

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<v Speaker 6>be going crazy because it's a very popular book.

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<v Speaker 1>When someone's listening in their headphones and like that.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, so anyway, it was very much that, like, if

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<v Speaker 6>you give someone something, they're going to ask more.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, so we watched this first episode, she comes in,

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<v Speaker 2>she's starting to try to make a connection about how

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<v Speaker 2>great she is.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of times when we meet someone who's a

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<v Speaker 2>liar like that, I find that it's because they really

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<v Speaker 2>don't have anyone that likes them for them, they need

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<v Speaker 2>to use the things about them to seem interesting. And

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<v Speaker 2>the entire time I watched this about resent Tisa, Yeah

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<v Speaker 2>I work at this company.

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<v Speaker 6>It's this oh one hundred percent. Didn't even think about that,

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<v Speaker 6>but yeah, it was on the same type of line

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<v Speaker 6>lying narcissis like. And it was so crazy because it

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<v Speaker 6>felt like it was it felt it. It did such

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<v Speaker 6>a great job of making you feel bad for her,

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<v Speaker 6>and then it turned her. It slowly turned her into

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<v Speaker 6>a villain because you're like, oh no, this bitch is wild.

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<v Speaker 6>But she played it so well that although you you

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<v Speaker 6>hate her because she's wild, you still like feel bad

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<v Speaker 6>for her because like