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Speaker 1: Guess what decision we're about to make.

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Speaker 2: Horrible decision.

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Speaker 3: Hey, y'all, welcome to another episode of Harbard Bled.

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Speaker 1: This is Young.

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Speaker 2: I'm your girl, Mandy b aka Stallion aka Debt Beach.

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Speaker 2: It's sugar and wheezy, and I'm super excited for this episode.

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Speaker 1: Can I tell you it's a secret? Tell us a secret.

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Speaker 1: If I wasn't a.

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Speaker 2: Sex podcaster, I would totally talk about true grime literally

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Speaker 2: what she was wanting us to do on Patriotic I

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Speaker 2: was like, bitch, we talk about six indeed, girl gonna

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Speaker 2: make another show.

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Speaker 1: Any literally came together, though, I do because niggas be

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Speaker 1: trying to kill my pissy.

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Speaker 2: And two, I get a little crazy to where, you know,

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Speaker 2: I just feel like anybody at every dated it is

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Speaker 2: like should I sleep with one eye open?

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Speaker 3: But we have the ladies from Sisters who kill and

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Speaker 3: do crime podcasts, and I'm really excited again. I love

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Speaker 3: collaborating with other podcasters, but also tee because we don't

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Speaker 3: all been there where we might want to kill a motherfucker.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 3: So with our little icebreaker, there's four of us. I

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Speaker 3: do want you all to introduce yourselves and then we

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Speaker 3: gonna see who the craziest bitch of.

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Speaker 2: All of us is?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, hi everybody, I am Mara Williams. You can

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Speaker 4: find me everywhere as Maraba magnificent.

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Speaker 2: Come on, magnificent, non tesz okay. Now we have to

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Speaker 2: know for the sex. Remember we needed like AOL chatroom

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Speaker 2: age sexual orientation location.

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Speaker 4: I am twenty nine, I will be Oh, I'm thirty.

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Speaker 4: I'll be thirty next week. Okay, okay cash at Mara

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Speaker 4: will So, I am thirty. I identify as bisexual and

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Speaker 4: I am in Atlanta, Georgia.

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Speaker 5: I am thirty, I said, I also identify as bisexual.

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Speaker 1: And what was the last question? Where you located?

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Speaker 2: Elma, the Atlanta girls and a bisexuality. It's in the water, honestly, No,

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Speaker 2: I just meet it everywhere now, No, no, no, I

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Speaker 2: think meeting straight people in Atlanta's kind of like, oh

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Speaker 2: are you lying?

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Speaker 4: But what's crazy is that when I grew up here,

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Speaker 4: I was dating guys all of high school and then

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Speaker 4: it wasn't until I went to college that I had

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Speaker 1: I pretty much was dating all girls.

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Speaker 4: And one of my friends was like, I don't think

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Speaker 1: Because I ain't seen you with a man in a

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Speaker 4: So she's trying to say right, and so now that

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Speaker 4: I'm dating a guy again, they're like, okay, you do

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Speaker 4: remember what men look like.

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Speaker 1: Waves.

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Speaker 3: I went out last night to Copper Cove and I

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Speaker 3: was just looking around, and I was like, everyone here

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Speaker 2: Of so many women, Like the place was full of women.

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Speaker 3: But I was like, bitch, everybody fine, everybody is fucking gorgeous.

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Speaker 3: And I was just like, I guess New York is

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Speaker 3: in terms of like how everyone dresses. I look everyone here,

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Speaker 3: not saying y'all look alike, but everybody look really motherfucking

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Speaker 3: I'll say that my.

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Speaker 1: City, for what you just said, is d C.

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Speaker 2: I think what I love about Atlanta is the girls

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Speaker 2: But you know, we're in like those spaces where it's

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Speaker 1: New York is a melting pot.

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Speaker 2: It is beautiful, but Brooklyn in the summertime is the

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Speaker 2: most blow. I love it.

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Speaker 1: I love it. All Right, let's get out to kill.

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Speaker 3: Yes, if you can explain a little bit about what

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Speaker 3: see how we navigate that in real life over yere.

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Speaker 1: Well, well, we talk about black women who kill.

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Speaker 5: We basically try and start in the beginning getting as

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Speaker 1: What led up to the murder.

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Speaker 5: You know, yeah, we uh introduce them to the victim

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Speaker 5: or maybe their accomplishes, and keep going through these stages

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Speaker 5: of life because everything that happens to you build you

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Speaker 1: Talk about the trial and where are they now.

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Speaker 5: They might still be in jail, some are released, some

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Speaker 5: then we have two segments that we do after telling

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Speaker 1: You, oh god.

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Speaker 5: You know how you be watching like a crime show

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Speaker 5: if I did, yeah, and we'll tell like stuff like that,

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Speaker 5: and it we'll do parole and no parole, and so

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Speaker 2: In a snowfro, why do you think we're obsessed with

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Speaker 2: crime in jail in death. What do you think that

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I mean I always liked True crime before I started

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Speaker 4: the show, but I think it's the sense of the

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Speaker 4: fact that it's real, like I can actually go out,

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Speaker 4: it can happen. I know, if I feel overly prepared,

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Speaker 2: There ain't no fairies, there ain't no aliens.

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Speaker 1: These are real life.

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Speaker 2: They literally had regular jobs, families, They could be your.

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Speaker 1: Labor is so normal, so normal killer.

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Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, We went to high school with the first girls.

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Speaker 4: That the first story that we told We went to

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Speaker 4: They were at ROTC. You were in a class or something.

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Speaker 2: The tea around school for that?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 1: Oh? No, the icemaker nigga go. Well, see, they got

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Speaker 4: But but Task told us when we told the when

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Speaker 4: that she heard that there was an informant, like one

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Speaker 5: I didn't hear that, but I read that in an

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Speaker 1: Hold on, why did they kill their right? She didn't

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Speaker 5: So they grew up being raised by their grandmother. Generationally,

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Speaker 5: the parents have had their kids as teenagers. The great grandmother,

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Speaker 5: So she had her twins at sixteen.

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Speaker 1: I know she was having twins, found out while her

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Speaker 2: I feel like I'm in their podcast, you know.

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Speaker 5: They were raised by their grandmother because the mom was

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Speaker 5: they was raised by their great grandmother and their mom

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Speaker 5: She gets a boyfriend, she decides, and now she's ready

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Speaker 5: way the articles present it is the mom wanted more structure.

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Speaker 5: that she was sexually assaulted and.

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Speaker 1: Old mom and mom was like, no, you weren't you

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Speaker 2: Wait a second, and was this? Did it get clarified

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Speaker 4: They didn't clarify that, but okay, they were being blamed

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Speaker 1: They were being blamed also, like when.

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Speaker 4: A lot of the articles were like, these girls were

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Speaker 1: What are the things that break the ice? Let's go

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Speaker 4: I bought you this from the store, so you can

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Speaker 4: we know as black women that you can be look

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Speaker 4: trouble on the aside. And every time that white people

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Speaker 2: Things, what are you making us side with the king?

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Speaker 1: No no no no no no no.

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Speaker 3: No no, but your own mother like and and trigger warning

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Speaker 3: your own mother though not really taking in to protect

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Speaker 3: you when you come to her that you've been sexually.

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Speaker 1: Assault right, and it makes us question the bigger thing.

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Speaker 4: So like they had to be in family court for

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Speaker 4: quite a while because the girls were running away, they

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Speaker 4: court they were saying, we don't want to be a mom.

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Speaker 4: Mom is trying to get starting, get drug tested, going

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Speaker 4: The girls say in the courtroom, we do not want

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Speaker 4: So now here's the bigger question. Who's really to blame?

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Speaker 4: If the girls are saying that they're distressed in this situation,

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Speaker 4: family court gave them therapists through a year. They went

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Speaker 4: through like what nine different therapists, So how are they

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Speaker 4: bigger questions. We know that wrong is wrong and they

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Speaker 4: shouldn't have killed their mother, but who else was responsible

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Speaker 1: So this is giving me a little bit of Gypsy Rose.

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Speaker 1: And for those that, yeah, don't know who.

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Speaker 2: Gypsy Rose is, well, no, when Gypsy and her mom

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Speaker 2: kept her being ill, was giving her medicine? Like making

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Speaker 5: And I think I think that's the purpose of it

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Speaker 1: It's not black and white jugging. Yeah what I'm saying,

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Speaker 2: And no, I think she knew. That's how And she said,

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Speaker 4: You can sit there and suffer. Good luck dating, tell

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no shit, oh my god.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, with Mandy's X the stories that we've heard on

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Speaker 2: But how do you grow that?

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Speaker 1: And the doctor kept saying, stop sending her here. She

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Speaker 2: But this is my thing too now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is actually something that's kind of made me

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to think about, like do I want to

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because they've they've run in this tape right back.

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Speaker 4: When you court right, I'm like, I over shared on

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Speaker 4: the police. I'm gonna be the one that gets If

443
00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,959
Speaker 4: you come, you're gonna see that I tried. Like I'm

444
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,960
Speaker 4: gonna be covered in blood. You're gonna see that I tried.

445
00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:49,480
Speaker 4: So that's get.

446
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,800
Speaker 1: Between eight to twelve and fifty to li issue.

447
00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:51,919
Speaker 2: Know.

448
00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:52,600
Speaker 1: You know.

449
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:56,680
Speaker 2: You better you better be sad as soon as you're

450
00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:57,560
Speaker 2: doing you know.

451
00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,920
Speaker 1: I would, I would hire uh yeah, oh my god.

452
00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:03,240
Speaker 2: See, I'm not gonna lie.

453
00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 1: I'm an entrepreneur.

454
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,639
Speaker 2: Well now, well now because I am like because I

455
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,760
Speaker 2: got the money, and but now that I'm like literally

456
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,680
Speaker 2: healed from my last relationship, I'm not gonna lie. I

457
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,120
Speaker 2: wanted to go. I knew where he parked his car,

458
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,040
Speaker 2: and I wanted to keep it just because I felt

459
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:19,200
Speaker 2: like it would make me feel.

460
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 1: Fun it wouldn't been.

461
00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, But then my friends were like, no, girl, because

462
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,800
Speaker 2: you know, there's what if you get caught. I literally

463
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,919
Speaker 2: was this closed to pay a crackhead. I was just

464
00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,359
Speaker 2: gonna be like, you go twenty five dollars. I just

465
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 2: need you to take that thing around that car about twice.

466
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:35,760
Speaker 1: Do that thing.

467
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 3: I literally already and they were planned to pay for

468
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:39,240
Speaker 3: a crackhead to keep.

469
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Speaker 1: Do you know how crazy? Now? I know I'm the

470
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:41,639
Speaker 1: crazier one.

471
00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,480
Speaker 2: Why because I mean I knew that. No, No, I

472
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 2: wouldn't have paid a crackhead because if he would have

473
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,439
Speaker 2: suited me in court, I'd have been right there, like

474
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:49,919
Speaker 2: I don't given funk how much it costs to get

475
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 2: out this motherfucker.

476
00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I kid it, I know, I know even bet.

477
00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:01,880
Speaker 3: With all these people courts, need my skin near craighead, just.

478
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 1: Go on paint on the cars you again?

479
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,399
Speaker 2: Okay, So for me, this is how I would do it.

480
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,440
Speaker 2: This is really sick though you've been thinking you want

481
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,159
Speaker 2: to share so bad? Look no, no, no, because like she

482
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 2: said in Jaxa, then you mentioned crimes. But I'm like, okay,

483
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:19,119
Speaker 2: because I could only kill someone if I knew they

484
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,160
Speaker 2: wanted to cause me pain, right, or if they really

485
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 2: tried to hurt me, like you gotta fuck my mammost up.

486
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,920
Speaker 2: I don't know, but that's crazy, you know what I'm saying.

487
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 2: You'd be hurting for a lot less than that. It

488
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 2: sounded myself, go ahead, I would be like, oh my god,

489
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 2: we should go party tonight.

490
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 1: Take this pill, not the all bitch yup.

491
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna go ahead and give him. That would

492
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 2: be it. I'd be like mine was mdm A. I

493
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 2: don't know what happened.

494
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 4: And then the good Samaritan law, you can call and

495
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 4: be like, oh my goodness, dave over and if you're

496
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 4: on something, you won't get arrested immediately. Oh my god,

497
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 4: say over. They overdose on fantanel. I'm calling. I'm on

498
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 4: the same drug. I can't believe that this drug dealer

499
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,160
Speaker 4: gave us the wrong thing.

500
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,159
Speaker 5: You need to you need to like make him. You

501
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 5: got to set it up to where like he's buying it,

502
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 5: like pre planting it. It's his ideas right now.

503
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 1: The scientific fellows.

504
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,439
Speaker 2: If you wanted to know what girls get around and

505
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 2: talk about, it's how to kill.

506
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

507
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 2: For the Vanilla Ship, I wanted to get into something

508
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 2: Vanilla shit is our segment where we talk about sex

509
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 2: in the news.

510
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 1: I don't have a particular article, but something that.

511
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,919
Speaker 2: I keep seeing is people that work in the morgue

512
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 2: having sex with dead bodies, and necrophilia being a kink

513
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 2: that is sleeping with the dead.

514
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:46,160
Speaker 1: Yep.

515
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 2: Do you have any stories you've heard about or maybe

516
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:53,120
Speaker 2: read in the past where people killed and then had

517
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 2: sex with the body, especially women? And I say that

518
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 2: because we do. We do know that menn do it.

519
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 3: Men do it, But are there any women in any

520
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 3: of the stories that have killed their partners?

521
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 2: And continued that that's not real lesbian.

522
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 4: I was about to say for men, Like my go

523
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,679
Speaker 4: to for necophilia is ed Kemper.

524
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 1: He's a white man. He's still locked up in l

525
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:19,439
Speaker 1: A and he's like the voice for the audio books

526
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 1: of those really amazing sci fi movies.

527
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,479
Speaker 2: Yeah he's wait wait wait, wait, what like he got

528
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,959
Speaker 2: a job this? Yeah, excuse me, He not still locked up.

529
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 1: He's still locked up. He's doing it from Jake from prison.

530
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,160
Speaker 2: He getting paid or better.

531
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: I don't know what his payment is like. But like,

532
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 1: I don't want to be.

533
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 4: I don't want to I don't want to get the

534
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 4: wrong but maybe Star Trek, maybe Star like the books

535
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 4: the audio books.

536
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 1: Is his voice. He's got a great voice. Wow, but

537
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,479
Speaker 1: he's like the go to, my go to person if

538
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 1: I'm talking about elsest.

539
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 5: We got was that girl after she killed she was

540
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 5: she was just looking him up.

541
00:24:58,119 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 1: Sorry, I didn't mean to check out of this.

542
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 5: He was in mortuary school And that was the closest

543
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 5: we got. Thrilled him and after she killed him, she said,

544
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 5: I can't wait to embalm his body.

545
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 1: Whoa.

546
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,239
Speaker 4: And then she made one of the other roommates go

547
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,199
Speaker 4: and drop help her drop the body off at like

548
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 4: this abandoned field. And he was like, I went out

549
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 4: there with her because she was basically like, if you

550
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 4: don't come with me, the same thing's gonna happen to you.

551
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 1: He was like. And then she prayed and set the

552
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 1: body on fire, and then she started dancing.

553
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:26,919
Speaker 4: He was like, and then I went back to the

554
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 4: car and I was just gonna wait till she was

555
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 4: done doing a little ceremony.

556
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,679
Speaker 2: Was did he get locked up as well? He was accomplice, He.

557
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,719
Speaker 4: Was accompless, but he got a short amount of time

558
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 4: because he was like when the police came, he said.

559
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 1: Let me tell you what happened. What he was singing

560
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,679
Speaker 1: like the Temptations. He was like, I will tell you everything, damn.

561
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: So I also read.

562
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 2: The reason I wanted to bring that up is because

563
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 2: I saw this thing and I love it's true that

564
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 2: they're pushing people in like mortuary school to be women

565
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 2: because they're having so many issues with men sleeping with

566
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 2: dad crazy. It's got I ain't go hold you. We

567
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 2: said it in a while, WPS. Gotta be the white

568
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 2: men that are doing this bullshit because clearly we were

569
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 2: talking about sisters who killed and it.

570
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 1: Ain't got really nothing.

571
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 2: Can you notice that black people murders ain't as crazy

572
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 2: as white like maybe they kill you, but white people are,

573
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 2: you know, they want to wear your head.

574
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 1: Some stories, we have some stories. I do think that

575
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: white people are worse.

576
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 5: So like they as a percentage wise, like more of

577
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:33,400
Speaker 5: them are crazy. Yeah then because even like black people

578
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 5: have generational trauma and but white people have generational crazy.

579
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: Because we were doing.

580
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 4: We were doing a show for one of the like

581
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 4: true crime shows, and we had to do a white

582
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 4: story and we were like, wow, they just like dad

583
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,439
Speaker 4: was crazy.

584
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: They still ain't found the woman's body. They the the

585
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 1: brother was in on it had to get rid of

586
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 1: the car. Like everybody just work together to kill this

587
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 1: white woman and we still can't find her. And I think,

588
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 1: are they still walking for you? Because they couldn't find

589
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 1: they all died.

590
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 2: Bro, guys, like there's no lie. We just think black

591
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 2: people don't do nothing crazy, like as far as like

592
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 2: killing be like, oh, there ain't no way there was

593
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 2: a black man that did. I mean, I think this

594
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 2: year one of the craziest I guess crimes of passion

595
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 2: was the the ballplayer. Uh, he's in the G League,

596
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 2: but he was also with the Kings. He was an

597
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 2: NBA player and G League player. Uh, they were in Arizona.

598
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 2: He literally killed someone and then played a game, got

599
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 2: on a flight, it went to the next city for

600
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 2: the next game after killing another woman. Mind you a

601
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 2: great game.

602
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: I don't hate to be dark, but I bet that

603
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: was a great.

604
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 2: Game because you're saying literally is around all the teammates

605
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 2: and they were like, we would have never guess literally

606
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 2: did it like they saw in a true crime film.

607
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 3: He did it with the girl that he was now dealing. Well,

608
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 3: my god, they tried to plan a threesome got her

609
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 3: to get in the car. He was in the back,

610
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 3: killed her with an HDMI court literally choked her from

611
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 3: behind and then dumped her body in like some lot

612
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 3: and like he had a rednumber with the girl or

613
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 3: Las Vegas. They were setting it up as that they

614
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 3: were they were both sex workers. And I guess the

615
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 3: friend was trying to tell on the other friend's pimp

616
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 3: and like boyfriend in jail. There was a whole bunch

617
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 3: of things, but pretty much they killed the girlfriend. Y'all

618
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 3: could look it up. Let me see if I could

619
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 3: get the guy's name.

620
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 2: But just just after this year, and it's just like

621
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 2: and everyone also was in this uh in this space,

622
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 2: and this is where I want to get into these

623
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,959
Speaker 2: people being regular people. So many people in the comments

624
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 2: were like, he was a basketball player with so much

625
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 2: life to live and money, Why would you risk your

626
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 2: entire livelihood? Look at Darren Sharper on that well, that

627
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 2: he didn't kill people, he'd breaks me. I mean, it's

628
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 2: just the way of we get confused. Darren Sharper. For

629
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 2: those who don't know, I'm speaking of nephilia, I mean

630
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 2: literally kind of before I found out about this, I

631
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 2: mean about what he did I remember I had an

632
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 2: ex who was obsessed with the New Orleans Saints and

633
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 2: Darren Sharper is fine and shit and was on the

634
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 2: Saints usidday. Gabrielle Union Yep raped so many women to

635
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 2: the point where they were incapacitated, like body being lifeless.

636
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 2: And the crazy thing about it was people almost didn't

637
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 2: couldn't empathize with the victims more than they were confused

638
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 2: how you could be attractive and rich with Yeah, I

639
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 2: don't even want to call.

640
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: It a king.

641
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 3: No, well, I mean again, but it has to be

642
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,479
Speaker 3: a kid. No, there's also just some psychological shit. By

643
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 3: the way, Chance Camachi, if you guys want to look

644
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 3: him up. That was the basketball player this year that

645
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 3: literally killed and the accomplice wasn't she only nineteen?

646
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 2: She was nineteen.

647
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 3: So the girl that helped him kill the girl and

648
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 3: get rid of the body, he was twenty seven, she

649
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 3: was nineteen.

650
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: That yes, sound like some twenty seven and nineteen year

651
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: old shit. It doesn't matter your money, it doesn't matter

652
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: how handsome you are, like, it doesn't matter you killer's

653
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: coming off shit, they come out all the types and sizes.

654
00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: It's all about It's about how you're made up before

655
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: you're born, how your brain is made up.

656
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 4: And it's also about your circumstances. Everybody's like, do you

657
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 4: make a killer or you born a killer? And I

658
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 4: think it's really the tie in of both because you

659
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 4: can think about children that have like developmental delays, like

660
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 4: if you're interceeded as a young child and your parents

661
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 4: work with you, then you can grow up and have

662
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 4: a happy, healthy life, you know, and if you and

663
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 4: it's the same thing when making a killer.

664
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Speaker 3: I mean with with crimes of passion, what do you

665
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 3: see or what have you with all the research, with

666
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 3: all the stories do you see are like the top

667
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 3: three things that lead women to tick tick boom? Because

668
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 3: if men are listening here, we just sat here and

669
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 3: talked about how we kill, they asked, let's keep them

670
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 3: from making the mistakes that might get their asses killed.

671
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 3: So what are like the top three things that women

672
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 3: are like, I've had enough.

673
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 5: I have two okay, okay, cheating and really leaving them.

674
00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 2: Wait women killed for leaving two?

675
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: Do you go nowhere?

676
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 3: So then that's what I've experienced in my direct proximity

677
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 3: is that those normally are men like women wanting to

678
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 3: finally leave and men being like, if I can't have you,

679
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 3: nobody can.

680
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 4: What's interesting is that a couple of cases that we've

681
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 4: come across where the man wanted to leave had to

682
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 4: do with the woman not being able to have a child,

683
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 4: and so she would end up killing another woman who

684
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 4: is with child, sometimes posing as she's as if she's pregnant.

685
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 4: We've had we've done a couple of cases where the

686
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 4: woman is like literally at term and she'll go sneak

687
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 4: into her she's befriended her, go take go into her house,

688
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 4: slice her open, steal the BA says, goes to the

689
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 4: hospital and says, I just had this baby and leave

690
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 4: that woman dead.

691
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: And she did. It's one girl on her wedding day,

692
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: on her wedding day, her husband and was sitting at

693
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: the altar wondering where his wife was, and she was

694
00:31:55,600 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: being murdered by their friend. Wait wait, will slice a

695
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: baby out of her. They're called womb raiders. Yep, womb raiders.

696
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 5: And it like she said, it's not because they want

697
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 5: a baby. Nine times out of ten, it's he want

698
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 5: a baby or like trying to please that person.

699
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: Do you hear this? This is the clip nigga. I

700
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: did not know that.

701
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 3: Wow, how how often are you said a couple of stories,

702
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 3: because we have at least three.

703
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: We've we've got at least three.

704
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 4: We try to stay away from cases that involve children,

705
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 4: so you you'll get them once a month, once every month.

706
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's it happens, And apparently it has increased

707
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 4: in the United States over the past couple of years

708
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 4: by like three percent. People want children, and most of

709
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 4: the time they're doing that because they want to keep

710
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 4: a man.

711
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 2: And my body language, I can't even move. There's there's

712
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 2: killer Sally. There's a lot of things recently too. I

713
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:03,239
Speaker 2: know people being in domestic by type of relationships that

714
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 2: are both physical sexual emotional. That definitely leads women as

715
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 2: well to feeling like that's their only way out.

716
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's a good third, right, And.

717
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 5: I think money, money, money, But then I think I

718
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 5: think just focusing on the krime of passion part of it,

719
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 5: I think it would be the domestic.

720
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: Probably domestic.

721
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 2: I mean with money, do you find that the money

722
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 2: is because they're trying to get the insurance payout?

723
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: Yes?

724
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 4: Wow, Okay, one time a girl killed her sister's man.

725
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 4: What just to get the money because he was a

726
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 4: lottery winner. He won the lottery and he was taking

727
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 4: care of the entire family. So married the girl's sister,

728
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 4: and so the girl had it was her and her

729
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 4: bum boyfriend, and they both needed some more money, even

730
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 4: though he was already fronting their lifestyle. So they decided

731
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 4: why they were going to kill him, and they were

732
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 4: supposed to rob him, but they ended up killing him.

733
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: And then there's a lot for insurance.

734
00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm not going to hold you if I want

735
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 3: motherfucking lotto. I'm just disappearing, y'all.

736
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 2: Ain't gonna know.

737
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 3: Podcast over, I'm in out of the country. Oh yeah, listen,

738
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 3: I'm disappearing.

739
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 1: Name change a bit, put a wig on.

740
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 2: Here's a good question, though, I'm gonna have to get

741
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 2: a boy's change would make you fall off the earth

742
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 2: because I recently was talking about this with Reese Tisa, right,

743
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 2: So we did an episode on Patreon me and it

744
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 2: came about Resa and he's like, she about to quit

745
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 2: a job, sooner, she about to be rich.

746
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, she's not gonna quit her job. He's like,

747
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: of course she is.

748
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 2: She's about to make mad bread. And I'm thinking to myself. Nah,

749
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 2: you not quitting a job for brand deals, are you?

750
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 2: So it postes the question how much money would make

751
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 2: you stop everything else? Because to me, if I weren't

752
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 2: like three million, four million dollars, I wouldn't no, because

753
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 2: that could be gone. How much money would make you

754
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 2: cut everything off and move?

755
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 1: I'm a cheap host, so my price is probably a

756
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: little lower. She was stopping at three million. Really, nah,

757
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:03,760
Speaker 1: I mean I keep going at three million.

758
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 4: But if you know, when you hit those big money

759
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 4: like the two hundred million, one hundred and fifty million,

760
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 4: but then you have to think about you're giving half

761
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 4: that back in taxes.

762
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 2: No, I'm going somewhere without taxes.

763
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: But if you win the lottery in America.

764
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 3: But maybe I'm going I don't know, bitch, I'm gonna

765
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 3: find it. There's somewhere, Oh, Switzerland, they'd be nice in

766
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 3: the banks of Song. You're gonna be a sovereign citizen.

767
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 3: Listen show will Hawaii's three percent? Will oh Whai is

768
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 3: only three percent?

769
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 2: And to be fair, the money going to Hawaiians as

770
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 2: indigenous people, that's a pretty like that's a good.

771
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 3: They don't want us there. I know you keep trying

772
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 3: to make it o. Hawaii does not want us there, broke.

773
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 3: They don't want toys, y'all know we he want to

774
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 3: go back to Hawaii, and I'd be like, bro they

775
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 3: do not want.

776
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 2: About the indigenous people.

777
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 3: They don't want you to have, bitch, get your black

778
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,240
Speaker 3: hats off the goddamn island.

779
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 1: When COVID hit, it was very difficult for businesses to.

780
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 2: Stay aflow because there was.

781
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 1: No money pouring into the comedy.

782
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 2: Then, on top of even Maui with the fires you

783
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 2: remember that happened. All of them were talking about how

784
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 2: grateful they are that we were on their part of

785
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 2: the land, that we were cut. They don't even like

786
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 2: what Oprah doing for them. They said, just get the

787
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 2: fuck out, y'all. We got this, We got the fires.

788
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 2: Because y'all keep coming over. Now, I feel like the

789
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 2: portion of you that wants to call the police, well,

790
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 2: I'm going, okay, now let's dig into it.

791
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: So Dad tell me, y'all have some stories. We really

792
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: want to know.

793
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 2: Who are some of the craziest bitches y'all In womb Raider.

794
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 2: I actually don't feel like I can come back from that.

795
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 2: Womb is crazy. That's that's pretty wild. By the way,

796
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 2: for the womb raider stories, for most other cases, are

797
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 2: they mostly women that they know.

798
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: They'll be They will befriend these women on the internet,

799
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:51,240
Speaker 1: like these mommy but sometimes mommy talk about them, says.

800
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 4: These mommy Facebook groups, these little support groups. These women

801
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 4: are out here faking their pregnancy. You see it all

802
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 4: the time where people are faking their pregnancy and they

803
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 4: get close to these women.

804
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 1: They trust these women.

805
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 4: They throw each other baby showers, and in reality, these

806
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 4: women are not pregnant.

807
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: It is an actual thing.

808
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 4: Like my friends that just had babies, they were like,

809
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 4: we were super selective about the information that we took

810
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 4: about who we reached out to.

811
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 2: It.

812
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 4: People were like, oh, we should be friends, we should

813
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 4: be mommy friends. You'd be like, we're not making mommy friends.

814
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 4: Were just on these spacebook groups for information they.

815
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:24,760
Speaker 1: Are stealing. Wow.

816
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 2: Yes, So you cut it open.

817
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 4: Because technically you're supposed to survive, right, It's a cesarean section,

818
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 4: and so if you're if you're you're technically you're supposed

819
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 4: to survive. But if they're bleeding out, you don't know

820
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 4: how to take care of them. You don't know how

821
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 4: to make sure that they're sewn up correctly.

822
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 2: They're going, yeah, how are they getting them to the

823
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 2: point where like you can even cut their stomach open,

824
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 2: Like they're.

825
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: Push them, they're not much pregnant.

826
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 4: Push them they fall cut or some one she stabbed

827
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 4: her in the neck and then cut her. She was

828
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 4: just making sure that the abdom was taken care of

829
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 4: and the babies survive.

830
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,320
Speaker 1: Wow, can you imagine you're born?

831
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 2: No?

832
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: No, I no, just know wherever you're taking this one

833
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: of them.

834
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 4: The where the husband was waiting at the altar. They

835
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 4: said that he went to the hospital because somebody finally

836
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 4: told him to go to the hospital and they saw

837
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 4: and they saw the daughter. He was, where's my daughter?

838
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 4: They were like, sorry, this is not your child. He

839
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 4: threw a fit, they said. All the newspaper articles were

840
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 4: like he was not having it because of course the

841
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 4: white people write. I was like, he was probably going

842
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 4: up and down the house hospitals like this is my child,

843
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 4: do a DNA test, doing a DNA test.

844
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 1: But the woman, the murderess, she was refusing medical service.

845
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: And you know you can do that.

846
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 4: So if she's refusing to be tested or for them

847
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 4: to look at her, they and she says this is

848
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 4: my newborn baby. They're inclined to believe her. So it

849
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 4: wasn't until he made a huge fuss and he was like, no, no,

850
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:51,280
Speaker 4: this woman is crazy.

851
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: That is my child, not her child.

852
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 4: Until then finally they did a DNA test and he

853
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 4: was able to take his daughter home.

854
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 2: And what I mean the wife didn't make it.

855
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: She didn't make it on their wedding day.

856
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 2: The psychological like warfare in his own life following that instance,

857
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 2: like a new theory. Here's when I'd become a killer.

858
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 2: Put me in jail for some other ship. Then a

859
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 2: bitch like that coming to jail, I could at help,

860
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 2: just you know, that's that's ridiculous, Like I do believe

861
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 2: in like ganging up on people that are terrible, Like

862
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 2: I think that's okay.

863
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: The jail politics. You hear that, Yeah, that's someone came

864
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 1: in there and did something with kids.

865
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 3: What are some other kinds of passion? Uh that really

866
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 3: stuck with you through doing this podcast? Mm hmm, you

867
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 3: got one brought to the.

868
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: Table test that's your favorite?

869
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 2: Favorite?

870
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 5: Verlina Wallace she was over in the UK, Yes she was,

871
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 5: she was in the UK. She had at HIV dating

872
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 5: life kind of slowed down. She joined this HIV chat

873
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 5: room of other people with HIV, and like they learned

874
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 5: that they can start dating and you know, having like

875
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 5: a real life or whatever. So she falls in love

876
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 5: with this guy, white guy, white guy. Okay, but she

877
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 5: isn't being really abusive, like you need to do this

878
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 5: and do that. Like she's just mean, right, financially abusive,

879
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 5: physically spending all his money, like just she's not great.

880
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: Okay. When you said financially abusive, I said, Mandy and

881
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: I are financially.

882
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:38,439
Speaker 5: And so he decides that he's going to leave, and

883
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 5: at first, she like attempts suicide. Who knows how real

884
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 5: it was, you know, because she's doing it to get

885
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 5: him back, so obviously are not trying to die, right,

886
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 5: But of course he comes back like, oh my god,

887
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 5: I left and look what she tried to do to herself.

888
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 5: I care about her.

889
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: I don't want her to hurt.

890
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 5: So he stays for a little while and he's like,

891
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 5: I can't take it anymore. He leaves again, and he

892
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 5: like starts dating this new woman. He's trying to move

893
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 5: on with his life. She's not having it. So she

894
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 5: gets on Amazon and she orders some acid you order.

895
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 2: Acid on Amazon. Clean t wait what no like acid? Acid?

896
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 2: Like what do you need acid for? Like like I know,

897
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 2: I know, like I've heard people get it thrown on them,

898
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 2: but I'm saying.

899
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 5: People were like you can use her drains or or

900
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 5: even like designers like a shid washing.

901
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 3: I said, ye, no, bright Amazon, y'all gotta y'all got man.

902
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 3: So she ordered acid on Amazon and did.

903
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 2: What with it?

904
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 5: You ordered acid on Amazon? And I think like she

905
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 5: had called him over she was like I'm not feeling

906
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 5: well whatever, and it was like, okay, I'm come to

907
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 5: spend the night with you again because I care with you,

908
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 5: like I'm gonna make sure you're okay. But he's still

909
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 5: with this other girl and he said she always keeps

910
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 5: a cup of water on her nightstand, but this time

911
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:01,879
Speaker 5: instead of a cup of water, it was a cup

912
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 5: of acid. And she just like he's in the bed

913
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 5: and she gets and she just throws it all over

914
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 5: him and his skin literally starts melting. There's like this

915
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 5: picture of the doorbell like as he was running out

916
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 5: the house and it's like corroded and everything, and he's

917
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 5: in the he's in the streets screaming.

918
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: It's as it is. Acid is acid.

919
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 5: His neighbor said it sounded like a fox was getting hurt.

920
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 5: He didn't think anything of it. Another person was like,

921
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 5: I thought they was like on acid like tabs. I

922
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 5: thought he was tripping, you know. And then they had

923
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 5: to come out there and they see him melting. They're

924
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 5: like trying of literally melting in the street.

925
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: They had to get him in a cold shower like

926
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: to try and stop it.

927
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 5: But I think what eighty percent of him was like burnt,

928
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 5: and so then he just had to go surgery.

929
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: At the surgery, he burnt his vocal cords. He was

930
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 1: he had like only two small patches on his back

931
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: that were not burned. Like he couldn't speak anymore.

932
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 5: Well, he could at first, but he was blind. And

933
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 5: then he kept having like he would have complications and

934
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 5: they would have to like crick him, and they did

935
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 5: it so many times that his vocal cords stopped working.

936
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 2: For me, she could stay in.

937
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 5: She didn't kill him, right, So she didn't kill him.

938
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 5: It was just an assault charge.

939
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 2: Right, Wait, that was not an attempted murder, that was

940
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:28,760
Speaker 2: only assault.

941
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 5: So she's in jail during that time for that. So

942
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 5: then he he's he he gets it's like two years.

943
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 5: He's sick of it, Like he can't talk, he can't walk,

944
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 5: he has no quality of life, he has no quality

945
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 5: of life. So he moves to a country where it's

946
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 5: legal to do medical suicide, and you know, he kills

947
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 5: himself and then his dad. When they went back and

948
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 5: like reviewed her charges, Like does this now count as murder?

949
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: Wow?

950
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 5: Because technically what you did let to his death, but

951
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 5: also it was a medical suicide.

952
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 2: I see what that's your favorite? Wow? If y'all can

953
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 2: see your face, Oh yeah, that's that's extensive. That's extensive.

954
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 2: What about yours? Okay, yeah, give us your give us

955
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 2: your favor before. My favorite is Daphne, right, Okay.

956
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 4: So Daphne is deaf, and she grew up kind of

957
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 4: in a deaf community. She lived in a deaf community,

958
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 4: and she had a girlfriend, white woman, and she loved

959
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 4: her white woman very very much.

960
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 2: We need to get away from a racial day.

961
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:33,720
Speaker 1: I don't know, it ain't.

962
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 4: Al she loved she loved her white woman very very much.

963
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 4: And her white woman made a new friend because they

964
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 4: went to like, like the community that area had a

965
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 4: huge deaf community, so they would do things in the

966
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 4: like bingo night or whatever.

967
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 1: So she made a friend, so I don't know the

968
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: pably dea.

969
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 5: They hold up the number on a projector something like.

970
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 1: I just made up how I made up big o

971
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: And now.

972
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 2: A lot of people they're like using a lot of

973
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 2: signaling and hand movements.

974
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: So and you could also sign like B not okay, Yeah,

975
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: I love that.

976
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 2: We walked through that.

977
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:28,439
Speaker 4: So her white woman makes a new friend and they

978
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 4: are communicating. It seems like they're flirting, and Daphne is

979
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 4: getting very jealous because I'm not my white woman, and

980
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 4: so she she then starts sending emails to the new

981
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 4: friend just friend, apparently friend, like I'm talking to her,

982
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 4: you're not talk to her. And at this time they're

983
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 4: all like living off of Social Security checks, disability checks,

984
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 4: things like that, and so Daphne has had it with

985
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 4: her white woman flirting with this other lady.

986
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: So she then sends.

987
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 4: Her emails like, Hey, why don't you meet me at

988
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 4: the pizza hud, let's have a conversation because I want

989
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 4: to plan her white woman's birthday party. They had already

990
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 4: got into a like public altercation at one point before.

991
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: So this is back in the time where Pizza hug

992
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: you could sit down.

993
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,240
Speaker 2: They had the buffet and they.

994
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 1: Had the little lighting.

995
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 4: So they were there and instead of actually sitting down

996
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 4: at Pizza Hud, Daphne got her in the car. Daphne

997
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 4: got her in the car and took her back to

998
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 4: her house. She's staying at the basement of some place,

999
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 4: this wherever she could afford. So she's at the basement

1000
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 4: of this place and she kills this woman and then

1001
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 4: she's like, okay, what do I do with the body?

1002
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 4: So she didn't have enough money, so she had to

1003
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 4: wait to the next day because that's when her social

1004
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 4: Security check dropped.

1005
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 2: So you killed the bitch and you got to wait

1006
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 2: on a check.

1007
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: She didn't have the budget for the murder.

1008
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 4: So then she goes to the she gets her social

1009
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 4: Security check, She goes to home depots. She talked, she

1010
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 4: signed to the guy, and it took him a while

1011
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 4: to realize that she was looking for a chainsaw. So

1012
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,280
Speaker 4: she ends up buying the cheapest chainsaw she could find.

1013
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 4: She goes back and she starts type chopping up this

1014
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 4: woman and this woman. Of course it's a chainsaw, even

1015
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,760
Speaker 4: chainsaws on wood. Everything flies.

1016
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 1: I was gonna say it's loud, and she can't hear

1017
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: how loud. Her roommates really they hear things.

1018
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 4: But also you could be playing music really loud to

1019
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 4: hear the vibrations or whatever, so no one's really hearing

1020
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 4: this happen. She chops up the woman and finally the

1021
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 4: girl's family is looking for her. Everybody's trying to figure

1022
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 4: out what happened. They look in the dumpsters and they're

1023
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 4: just like, you know, when you look for a body,

1024
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 4: you're starting to think the worst. You start looking in

1025
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 4: landfields and they start finding her clothing, They start finding

1026
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 4: like small pieces of her body, and so then they

1027
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 4: start looking at her email.

1028
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 1: Who was she talking to? Then everything brings them back

1029
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: to Daphne.

1030
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 4: So the police go and they're like, Daphne, we need

1031
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 4: to have a conversation with you, and they searched the house.

1032
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 1: She was like, nig can't no.

1033
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 2: There was chunks and pieces everywhere.

1034
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: There were not only were there chunks of pieces everywhere.

1035
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 1: She did a horrible job cleaning up.

1036
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 4: But instead of like, I don't know, a rag, soap

1037
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 4: and water, she decides that she's gonna go I guess,

1038
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 4: back to home depot, get some oops, paint got a

1039
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,919
Speaker 4: big thing of blue paint and just starts painting over

1040
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 4: the brain matter that's on the wall and just paint

1041
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 4: even the floor, just starts painting the floor.

1042
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: Wood everywhere.

1043
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 4: But it's like she was just like we're just gonna Daphne, right,

1044
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 4: and they're like we can see the chunks of brain

1045
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 4: with blue over it.

1046
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: Like she didn't even try to wipe it down.

1047
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 2: So she did.

1048
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: She goes to court and then even those cases where.

1049
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 2: You can't please sanity there right, and over brain matter,

1050
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 2: not to say death lesbian. Listen, Yeah, the bitch can't

1051
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:36,280
Speaker 2: be okay doing that, Like you gotta plead in sanity

1052
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 2: as well.

1053
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: Well.

1054
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 4: And here's the thing, when obviously we know who did

1055
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 4: the crime and who should be punished for the crime.

1056
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 4: But when she was in jail, I mean when she

1057
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 4: was in court, they barely had an ASL interpreter for her.

1058
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 4: She could barely communicate with her lawyer. So now the

1059
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 4: question is did she get a fair trial? We all

1060
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 4: kind of can figure out what the ending of the

1061
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 4: trial is going to be. But you are an American,

1062
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 4: You are an American citizen. There is the American Disability Acting.

1063
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 4: You should be able to have a fair trial.

1064
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 5: You should have had an understand as it's going, so

1065
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 5: that even if she wanted to plead insanity, she had

1066
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 5: the fair opportunity to do so.

1067
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: So you see how.

1068
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 2: I don't like how you really be looking at in

1069
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 2: the little loophole like wow, Like I kind of like

1070
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 2: it because you have to be non binary, right, like right,

1071
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,919
Speaker 2: I feel like you and I are so what's the word,

1072
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 2: not opinionated, but like we would be reading a story

1073
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 2: and we wouldn't be able to finish, be like, oh no,

1074
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 2: that nigga gotta go to jail. Like you really have

1075
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 2: to take your mind out of this ship when you're

1076
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 2: reporting on it.

1077
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: Damn okay, crazy, sir.

1078
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 4: It was the Dick was so good that I couldn't

1079
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 4: remember anything that happened, And next thing I know, I

1080
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 4: woke up and he was dead.

1081
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 2: That's crazy. Yeah, I feel like I was so engaged

1082
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 2: in this episode. I can't imagine how fast y'all are

1083
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 2: running to subscribe. No, ladies, please tell everybody where to

1084
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 2: find you the best way to support your podcast.

1085
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 1: What days it dropped? Because it better not be on

1086
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 1: our shit Monday. It is not.

1087
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 4: It is on Friday, So go ahead, and add to

1088
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 4: your podcast rotation. We come out every Friday. Sister Sue

1089
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 4: Kill SI s t A s. Because some people figure

1090
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 4: I can't spell that. So sisters who kill on Instagram,

1091
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,040
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1092
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 4: can find us pretty much everywhere. You can find us

1093
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 4: on YouTube, but you're just gonna get our short content

1094
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 4: that you wout on TikTok because we are audio only.

1095
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 2: I will say, you guys do a phenomenal job on

1096
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 2: the social media's with the pictures and the breakdown and

1097
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 2: sending people to see how crazy these people are with

1098
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,399
Speaker 2: the episodes. That's how I found you guys, and then

1099
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 2: see that you guys also work with Alex Reyos. Yes,

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Speaker 2: your faces on this episode, y'all are beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, Okay, y'all's gonna have to come back and see

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00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:48,919
Speaker 2: us another day and listen to them on audio only.

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Speaker 2: But seriously, such a fun episode, like I can't wait

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Speaker 2: guys so much. Hey, y'all, if y'all want to hear,

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00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 2: maybe we need to talk about you crime. She might

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Speaker 2: be doing that over there on the Patreon. Another pressure

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Speaker 2: is on. I ain't gonna hold you. I don't even

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00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 2: want to do it anymore.

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Speaker 1: Killa Couchi episode on Patreon.

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Speaker 3: Killuci. Look now she got Killer Couchi on Patreon. Y'all

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Speaker 3: coming home. Make sure you go on over and subscribe.

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Speaker 3: If you would like more bonus content, head on over

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Speaker 3: to Patreon. That's patreon dot com backslash Horrible Decisions and

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00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 3: y'all we out and about and we out today. Thank

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Speaker 3: you for tuning in to you had another episode of

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Speaker 3: Horrible Decisions.

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Speaker 1: You would not also have heard of Baby Reindeer.

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00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 6: And It's Insane.

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Speaker 2: Now Mandy hadn't watched it, so I had to get

1121
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,399
Speaker 2: in and talk about Baby Reindeer before everybody forgets about it.

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00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 2: This is let me type in baby Reindeer on my.

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Speaker 6: Phone on Oh I just got some tea on the

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Speaker 6: show too.

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Speaker 1: Oh I can't.

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Speaker 2: So this is the text messages I got about it.

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00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 2: I just typed it in. Yeah, girl baby is insane

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Speaker 2: from Breonda. Next text message, please watch it. Actually it's

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00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 2: a little too much.

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Speaker 1: The key woulds April twenty second, Girl Baby raindeals on Netflix.

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00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 2: And it's wild. I did text my man Baby Reindeer

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00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 2: question mark. Then someone else screenshots Cardi b talking about

1133
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 2: Baby Reindeer. Now spoiler alert. Yes, there's not really that

1134
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 2: much of a spoiler. Everybody been talking about how has

1135
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:29,240
Speaker 2: a lot of sexual violence in it episode four. However,

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Speaker 2: I think that it was okay for me to watch

1137
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 2: because I was super prepared to see it.

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00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, it should. I feel like it should start with

1139
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:38,720
Speaker 6: a trigger warning. I feel like it's one of those shits.

1140
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 6: Oh it did. Oh well girl, okay that episode did.

1141
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 6: Oh you're right there, the whole show, the whole show?

1142
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: Should.

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00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 6: I remember Angeli eaves when who told me to watch this?

1144
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 6: She's like, you gotta watch Baby Raindeer. I'm like, what

1145
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 6: is this? She told me? And then someone DM me

1146
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 6: and told me, like some a fan dm me and

1147
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 6: told me. I'm like, let me watch it. I got

1148
00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 6: to episode four.

1149
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Speaker 2: It's like the recent teat so once you get to twenty, Yes,

1150
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 2: what is Baby Reindeer? It's an eight episode Netflix series. Okay,

1151
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 2: it's my goddamn podcast.

1152
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: I know you're right.

1153
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 2: So it is a seven episode show on Netflix about stalking. Yes,

1154
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,959
Speaker 2: all I know is about a crazy, big white girl.

1155
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:22,879
Speaker 1: This stalk is.

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00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:28,280
Speaker 6: Somebody who deserves an oscar or oo or Emmy, whatever

1157
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 6: they give them.

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Speaker 2: And I'm just kind of watching the shit like damn okay,

1159
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 2: Like people were saying it doesn't get good, you know,

1160
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 2: until the fourth episode.

1161
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Speaker 1: I disagree. I enjoyed it.

1162
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 2: What makes this show dope is this is a true story.

1163
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 2: So as we're watching episode one, a woman walks into

1164
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Speaker 2: a bar, she's kind of lying about her life. I'm

1165
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 2: a lawyer, I know famous people, I'm this, I'm that,

1166
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 2: And it's like you can just tell someone's lonely, and

1167
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 2: when you're watching it, it kind of becomes this thing

1168
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 2: where you're like, okay, so why do you keep giving

1169
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 2: this person attention? And what I learned and I don't

1170
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 2: know if you've ever had this experience, but like it

1171
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 2: made me think to myself, there are so many times

1172
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Speaker 2: I didn't want to talk to someone and I kept going, yeah,

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00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 2: are we leading people on? We do that shit.

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Speaker 6: I think it's like a guilt thing where people are

1175
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 6: so worried just to let someone down or themselves to

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Speaker 6: turn someone down and tell him no, and it just

1177
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Speaker 6: inherit or whatever. So then subconsciously or even consciously, they

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00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 6: just they're like, I'll just keep being nice. Are keep

1179
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 6: being nice? Is like, but that's worse because now they

1180
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 6: think there's hope. I'd rather just be like, nah, NIGGI

1181
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,240
Speaker 6: you want it true, because I like, I've had people

1182
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 6: lead me on, and I'm like, nigga, if you ain't

1183
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 6: trying to fuck those three billion people that are gay,

1184
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Speaker 6: probably I don't know if that statistic it's true, it's not.

1185
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Speaker 6: But my point is there's a lot of other people

1186
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 6: I could be out here trying to fuck. Don't make

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Speaker 6: me waste my time.

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Speaker 1: And then here's the.

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Speaker 2: Other thing, right, I don't necessarily know if he was

1190
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 2: leading her on, but what I will say, maybe he

1191
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 2: didn't lead her on romantically, but there was a small

1192
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 2: part of me that was like I would have he

1193
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 2: was my friend too. He gave it, you get you

1194
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 2: gave it. You gave a cookie.

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00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 1: What's that?

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00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 6: Give give cookie to a mouse of cookie or something

1197
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 6: like that. That book that we used to read in kindergarten,

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00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 6: If you give a mouse of cookie?

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Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm talking about?

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00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 2: Okay, well, at least someone you don't know that book?

1201
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 2: Oh it has a cookie and it's a white cover.

1202
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 6: But yes, and it just and it leads to this

1203
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 6: whole thing. Okay, Well, anyway, it's a book. It's a

1204
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 6: very popular the people in the comments are going to

1205
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 6: be going crazy because it's a very popular book.

1206
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:31,800
Speaker 1: When someone's listening in their headphones and like that.

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00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 6: Yes, so anyway, it was very much that, like, if

1208
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 6: you give someone something, they're going to ask more.

1209
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: Exactly.

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00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 2: Well, so we watched this first episode, she comes in,

1211
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 2: she's starting to try to make a connection about how

1212
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 2: great she is.

1213
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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: A lot of times when we meet someone who's a

1215
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 2: liar like that, I find that it's because they really

1216
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 2: don't have anyone that likes them for them, they need

1217
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 2: to use the things about them to seem interesting. And

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00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 2: the entire time I watched this about resent Tisa, Yeah

1219
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 2: I work at this company.

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Speaker 6: It's this oh one hundred percent. Didn't even think about that,

1221
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 6: but yeah, it was on the same type of line

1222
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 6: lying narcissis like. And it was so crazy because it

1223
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 6: felt like it was it felt it. It did such

1224
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:18,879
Speaker 6: a great job of making you feel bad for her,

1225
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 6: and then it turned her. It slowly turned her into

1226
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,280
Speaker 6: a villain because you're like, oh no, this bitch is wild.

1227
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 6: But she played it so well that although you you

1228
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 6: hate her because she's wild, you still like feel bad

1229
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 6: for her because like