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Speaker 1: The Volume.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Jenkus and Jones on the Volume podcast Network

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Speaker 2: is Wednesday, November twenty seventh, and we got a real

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Speaker 2: gift from the podcast gods. I feel like usually the

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Speaker 2: scheduling ship does not work out in our favor, but

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Speaker 2: we happened to already have scheduled Bomani Jones before we

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Speaker 2: knew that we were going.

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Speaker 3: To have a double rap beef lawsuit.

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Speaker 1: Both.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for hopping off with.

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Speaker 1: Us, Yo, it's wild. I just want to say star

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Speaker 1: by saying hello and thank you for having me right like,

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Speaker 1: it's just I got it. I can't thank you for

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Speaker 1: having me on this show. The timing gives impact.

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Speaker 2: Timing's impeccable. For sure, it was I believe that was

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Speaker 2: Tyler's doing. But we've got Dragonfly Jones aka Tyler Lejetro

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Speaker 2: Jenkins aka John, I'm Guardy b aka Mike and Tyler.

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Speaker 2: Why don't you why don't you take it away?

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Speaker 4: Brother?

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Speaker 5: I mean I Tyler.

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Speaker 3: Tyler was like, let's do a first thoughts podcast.

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Speaker 2: On the album on Sunday. We'll see if Bau wants

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Speaker 2: to hop on with us early next week. And then

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Speaker 2: it just so happened in between these two podcasts.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, nothing happened. We've never seen so that was the plan.

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Speaker 6: It was like, Yo, let's let's do you know, kind

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Speaker 6: of a first listen, first impression, you know, overview rundown

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Speaker 6: of GNX on Sunday and let's have bow On to

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Speaker 6: do kind of you know, a deeper dive into the

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Speaker 6: into gn X, into the year that Kendricks had, into

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Speaker 6: the Kendrick and Jake beef and in between. Then the

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Speaker 6: funniest shit in rap history happens. The most hilarious shit

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Speaker 6: and rap history happened. Like Bro, you know, Kendrick gave

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Speaker 6: us the surprise drop on GNX. This motherfucker gave us

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Speaker 6: a surprise drop with some lawsuits, with some motherfucking legal

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Speaker 6: action like that was Bro. I honestly feel like this

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Speaker 6: is the corny shit that ever happened in rap history.

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Speaker 6: It is the corny end because what I have been

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Speaker 6: I have been racking my mind trying to come up

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Speaker 6: with an example of anything that's that's in the arena

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Speaker 6: of this, and I've got nothing.

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Speaker 5: Bro. It is on precedented levels of corny. Okay, so I.

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Speaker 1: Can't match the corny, but I want people to understand

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Speaker 1: just how funny this is in application, right, I forget

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Speaker 1: what happened. It led to me sending a tweet about this,

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Speaker 1: by the way, one of those tweets that I thought

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Speaker 1: would catch on a little stronger, but apparently people don't.

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Speaker 1: They like, I ain't no accounting for taste, right, But anyway,

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Speaker 1: I forget what had happened, but it made me think

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Speaker 1: about that time that kres Ie ran up on PM

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Speaker 1: down at a club in New York and threw Prince

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Speaker 1: b off the stage, right, like that's that's when beef

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Speaker 1: was beef okay, And I you know how things that

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Speaker 1: would happen back then would kind of feel what's the

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Speaker 1: word apocryphal? Is that the word like these stories wore

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Speaker 1: just kind of bounce around, but you never really got

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Speaker 1: like a for real confirmation on it. It's not like

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Speaker 1: the USA today was gonna run something like this, like

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Speaker 1: Forbes will run a story about rap.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 1: You know, you just hear about this stuff and you

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Speaker 1: think it happens, right, Like if you've seen the documentary

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Speaker 1: about Teddy Pendergrass and the car wreck, there was an

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Speaker 1: allegation about the car wreck that I didn't think could

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Speaker 1: possibly have actually been true, but oh yes, it was

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Speaker 1: so what I did not realize until this week about

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Speaker 1: Carara's run running up on stage with people who don't

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Speaker 1: know this Prince b is kind of like they was

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Speaker 1: like proto Frank Ocean right, like kind of proto Ato

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Speaker 1: eight's and heartbreaks. They was rapping, but they was like

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Speaker 1: kind of delicately singing, like you know, this is kind

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Speaker 1: of the steeze, and they had funny looking glasses on

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Speaker 1: this stuff.

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Speaker 5: It was a lot going on with these cats.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, one of them said about karas One, if

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Speaker 1: karez One is a teacher, he is a teacher of

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Speaker 1: what And karas One is not in a man to

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Speaker 1: abide by any level of disrespect. This dude's on stage

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Speaker 1: opening for super Cat pm Don is Cara's one. Runs

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Speaker 1: up in there with the squad. They throw pm don

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Speaker 1: off the stage and while this is happening, and this

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Speaker 1: is the part that I did not realize, one of

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Speaker 1: his dudes ran up on the DJ booth, threw the

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Speaker 1: DJ out, and after krris One has vanquished pm down

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Speaker 1: from the stage, they played South Bronx, South bra South

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Speaker 1: South from the Victory music and him what Drake did.

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Speaker 1: It's fifteen times funnier than that. Right, Like, after that happened,

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Speaker 1: they asked krris One about it, and KAA.

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Speaker 5: Rass One said, I am a teacher of respect.

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Speaker 3: That's great.

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Speaker 1: This is fifteen times funnier than that. Not one lawsuit

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Speaker 1: but two lawsuit.

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Speaker 3: Who two?

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Speaker 2: I mean they've said Drake is an actor in a

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Speaker 2: comedian and the comedic timing on the second lawsuit is

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Speaker 2: really fucking impeccable.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's really like, it's really incredible that you would.

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Speaker 6: Be like, oh, you thought I was done, I got

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Speaker 6: another lawsuit for Mike. Mike, one of the funniest tweets

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Speaker 6: I've seen about this is you tweeted after the second

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Speaker 6: loss you dropped.

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Speaker 5: You tweeted, oh shit, he dropped again.

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Speaker 3: It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: I think it's lawyer deserves more credit for his pen bro.

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Speaker 2: Back to back lawsuits. Do you know how long those

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Speaker 2: fight looks are?

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Speaker 1: Because well, see that's I'm curious how this goes when

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Speaker 1: you're the lawyer, because these are, on one level, these

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Speaker 1: are unwinnable lawsuits, right is the lawyer just down to

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Speaker 1: take the money? Like what other phone calls has the

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Speaker 1: lawyer taken? Because let's be honest about this the decision

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Speaker 1: to do this. This is an idea that Drake concocted

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Speaker 1: while talking to white people.

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Speaker 5: There's not one single black.

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Speaker 4: White man concocted while talking to white people.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, white people got in the room and came up

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Speaker 7: with a white people lass idea. We got whooped so bad,

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Speaker 7: we got to bring up some other fucking math niggas.

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Speaker 7: We can't beat them an art nigga, but we can

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Speaker 7: out math these niggas, I guess, And you're wrong, bitch,

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Speaker 7: You're all just.

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Speaker 1: No flag person who thought about this. This is the

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Speaker 1: seed is straight out of Compton where they hear no vasily.

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Speaker 3: And Jerry Heller is like, I'll call on the inside.

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Speaker 1: Defamation League, which by the way, might be Drake's nest

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Speaker 1: phone call, just so we know, right like that that

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Speaker 1: might be on the list. Only white people could have

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Speaker 1: possibly thought this was a good idea, And.

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Speaker 3: My theory on that.

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Speaker 1: Is a little different. It's a little weighty, perhaps, But

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Speaker 1: in the year two thousand and six, I lived in Durham,

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Speaker 1: North Carolina, and that was when the dood Lacrosse trial happened.

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Speaker 1: I realized we're at a point now where people may

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Speaker 1: not know where the dood lacrosse trial.

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Speaker 5: It is, but you go ahead and look at it.

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Speaker 1: But the long and the short is a woman said

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Speaker 1: the three white lacrosse players from Duke had raped her,

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Speaker 1: and it became a big national scandal that turned out

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Speaker 1: to be a hoax, right, And I lived in Durham,

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Speaker 1: and black people in Durham got a bad rap. They

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Speaker 1: was like, y'all gotta do something about this, right, like,

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Speaker 1: get to the bottom of it. And when it turns

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Speaker 1: out to be a hoax, you know, they get real

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Speaker 1: mad at us about that stuff. But the point that

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Speaker 1: I always made was the district attorney, this white man,

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Speaker 1: came out and told us that a sexual assault had

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Speaker 1: occurred and that he was gonna prosse. So we thought

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Speaker 1: that a sexual assault had occurred. And you know why

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Speaker 1: we thought a sexual assault had occurred, because we knew

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Speaker 1: you don't lie about nothing like that.

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Speaker 3: But rich white people they're.

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Speaker 1: Gonna destroy you. You had to you had to be

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Speaker 1: telling the truth, right, you don't. You don't come at

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Speaker 1: these rich white people like this unless you're really ready

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Speaker 1: for the smoke. And guess what, he was not ready

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Speaker 1: for the smoke, and they did, in fact destroy him.

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Speaker 1: Drake just sued Universal. Universal only has I mean as

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Speaker 1: one of the three. There are three record labels left, basically,

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Speaker 1: and Universal is one of them.

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Speaker 5: Drake is suing them.

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Speaker 1: Only a white person would have the confidence to believe

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Speaker 1: that this is a good idea. No, every black person

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Speaker 1: forget about all this. You look like a dork.

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Speaker 3: Shit, right.

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Speaker 1: Every black person is like, hey, homie, I'm gonna tell

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Speaker 1: you right now, man, the white folks don't play about this.

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Speaker 3: Even if you win, you gonna lose.

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Speaker 5: Here's here's here's the thing.

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Speaker 6: And and to your point, the homie Andre g Or

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Speaker 6: Rollingstone wrote a pretty good article yesterday where he spoke

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Speaker 6: to a couple of entertainment lawyers. And entertainmentlawyers were like, bro,

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Speaker 6: this is not even going to trial. This there's no

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Speaker 6: meat on this bone. And and and you know, like

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Speaker 6: my mine is minus the sucker shit Like both said.

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Speaker 5: I'm wondering what is he hoping to gain from this?

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Speaker 6: Because the thing is this, right, when you ask what

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Speaker 6: are you hoping the game, you have to ask what

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Speaker 6: does Drake want here?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 6: And it feels like the genesis the foundation. The underlying

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Speaker 6: main argument of this litigation is Drake is asserting this,

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Speaker 6: It is impossible that this many people enjoyed seeing me

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Speaker 6: getting my ass beat right like that is what he

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Speaker 6: is struggling. That is what he can knock under grips with.

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Speaker 6: He cannot believe that millions of people danced over his

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Speaker 6: body after he got knocked the fuck out right like that.

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Speaker 6: That is something that he just cannot grasp and and

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Speaker 6: and it's like bro like for someone who said that

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Speaker 6: they were so unbothered by this all we all knew

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Speaker 6: that was bullshit every time you said it, but for

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Speaker 6: you to just admit it in a roundabout way like this,

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Speaker 6: it's like, dog.

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Speaker 5: This is the biggest l in rap history.

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Speaker 6: And I want to say something to all these motherfuckers

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Speaker 6: acting like Drake is some valiant, you know, fucking warrior

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Speaker 6: take you know, raging against the machine on this one,

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Speaker 6: you know, doing this artistic. It's a lot of motherfuckers

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Speaker 6: on fan boys of course, trying to rationalize.

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Speaker 3: How many of them are white.

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Speaker 1: Only a white man could possibly think this is the revolution.

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Speaker 4: I've seen actual black folks. That was said.

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Speaker 7: One thing you said, I used to be your Drake

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Speaker 7: sexual that said, I can't even get behind this, you

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Speaker 7: know what I mean? Like he's embarrassing his black fans,

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Speaker 7: so he's gotta be.

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Speaker 4: White folks like you saying you know.

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Speaker 6: What I'm saying, and yeah, and that's the thing, Like

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Speaker 6: he is not raging against the machine right here.

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Speaker 5: He is raging at the machine right like.

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Speaker 6: He's not doing this to highlight the machine and bring

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Speaker 6: its light and say this has to change. He's asking

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Speaker 6: what change? What happened to this machine that used to

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Speaker 6: worked for me and now it flipped on me? Like

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Speaker 6: that is what he's asking with this, bro, He's asking

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Speaker 6: what was the shift here? When this when this you

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Speaker 6: know machine that I that that y'all used to game

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Speaker 6: to work for me. I know what it looks like

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Speaker 6: when y'all do that shit. And it's looking like y'all

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Speaker 6: did the verse here right like that is the underlying

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Speaker 5: And he's asking why it happened and who was behind it.

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Speaker 7: This is good, you know what I'm saying, Like this

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Speaker 1: I'm asked this question, is it fair to say that

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Speaker 1: Because I don't traffick into spaces like that anymore and

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Speaker 7: He broke Drake's records with this, this record beating this

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Speaker 7: Nigga's ass.

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Speaker 1: Yes, like this is.

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Speaker 4: You know, this is the universe.

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Speaker 7: It ain't just the album. The turn on you God said,

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Speaker 7: fuck thistigger.

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Speaker 5: We had enough.

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Speaker 1: But this is where I think he misunderstands, like the

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Speaker 1: let's just say that happen. Let's say that everything that

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Speaker 1: took to catch homie it did. Okay, you can't erase

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Speaker 1: that fact and universal in their file and was like, buddy,

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Speaker 1: we can't tell people what to like. They don't believe

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Speaker 1: Put that ship all right now.

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Speaker 4: Period.

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Speaker 7: But the thing is, though, you can't fake white boys

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Speaker 7: You can't make that. That ain't that ain't them niggas.

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Speaker 7: You can't fake or brin yo yo, big bro dancing

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Speaker 1: Bro.

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Speaker 7: Fuck the numbers nigga. The culture win a different way.

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Speaker 7: Your own homies. Your big bro said, fuck you, goofy

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Speaker 4: Big brob me, Damn. I'm tired of your goofy ass.

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Speaker 5: We've seen it.

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Speaker 1: and like that's the thing. People felt romantic about this situation.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying I don't understand why the bad don't

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Speaker 1: But suing was never going to be the way to

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Speaker 7: I've never ever ever seen somebody I'm going to call

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Speaker 1: Move on.

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Speaker 4: You still have your nuts, nigga.

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Speaker 7: You gave you, packed your nuts up and set them

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Speaker 7: motherfuckers off when you filed that motherfucking shit. Bro, You

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Speaker 7: know what I'm saying now, it's just you shake like

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Speaker 4: This motherfucker got shit left. You ain't got shit left, bro.

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Speaker 7: And he was on this motherfucker talking about who's the

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Speaker 4: His fragile op nigga?

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Speaker 7: You the fred whose lean Lacey, who was from competent

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Speaker 4: You the frashi op.

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Speaker 7: You the niggas starting three or three tournaments at thirty seven.

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Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, getting getting lessons to learn

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Speaker 7: how to play basketball. That's some white man shit. He's

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Speaker 6: he was moving like a white man. He was moving

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00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,360
Speaker 6: like a white dude to me when he started family

440
00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:27,720
Speaker 6: matters off on his phone talking to his mom about

441
00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:29,960
Speaker 6: how how Kendrick doesn't like him saying nigga and open

442
00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:30,360
Speaker 6: the song with.

443
00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,520
Speaker 5: Nig Dad said it. I'm like, that is a white boy.

444
00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,440
Speaker 6: That is a white that that man had a conversation like, hey, mom,

445
00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,440
Speaker 6: a guy I know doesn't like when I say nigga,

446
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:39,680
Speaker 6: But guess what I'm gonna say it again.

447
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:41,679
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say it anyway. I don't care. I have

448
00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,640
Speaker 5: never had a conversation like that with my black mom

449
00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:44,360
Speaker 5: and my black.

450
00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,879
Speaker 6: Household about someone doesn't want me calling them a nigga,

451
00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:48,560
Speaker 6: like you know what I'm saying. And then the you

452
00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,680
Speaker 6: wrap like you want the slaves freed. I was like, dog,

453
00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:52,800
Speaker 6: this is a white man right here. This is where

454
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,400
Speaker 6: I get off, and yeah.

455
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, what is wrong with that? He like it was

456
00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,879
Speaker 4: a bad thing that he rapped, like he wants to

457
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,520
Speaker 4: slaves free? Did you want it the other way, mister

458
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:03,040
Speaker 4: white man?

459
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:07,120
Speaker 6: And that's why the people saying that, And that's why

460
00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,480
Speaker 6: the people saying he's being some freedom fighter for artists

461
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 6: rights or full of ship. The mother one of the

462
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 6: things he clown is, oh, you are concerned with a

463
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,000
Speaker 6: cause greater than yourself.

464
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:22,880
Speaker 1: That's laughing, y'all, said Draco stage talk about.

465
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:23,800
Speaker 5: Lock film up.

466
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:25,359
Speaker 7: Bro.

467
00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 4: Somebody somebody said this is Drake's January sixth.

468
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 2: That's what the chat is all over, saying this is

469
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,359
Speaker 2: Drake's January sixth and calling him January sixth.

470
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 7: God, bro, that's a that's a bar, but bro, And

471
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 7: that's what I said. I said, check his vote, check

472
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,680
Speaker 7: his Checki's voter record. He might be a trumper nigga.

473
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 7: After I saw this shit, hey, we need to hey

474
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,639
Speaker 7: check it off. We need to hit the background. I

475
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 7: don't know about this, nigga. It's nasty.

476
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 1: How do he think this.

477
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 5: Was gonna play like?

478
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 1: That's like again, That's why I say there must have

479
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 1: been no black people in the room. I don't understand

480
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 1: how he thought this was going to play.

481
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:08,159
Speaker 7: He's adopting the culture. He's gotten older and adopted the culture.

482
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,239
Speaker 7: He didn't grow up in it. If you grow up

483
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 7: in it, you see the fucking ones and zeros, you

484
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,199
Speaker 7: see this motherfucker like the Matrix, you know what the

485
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 7: fuck goes and what doesn't go.

486
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,640
Speaker 4: It's in your spirit, you know what I'm saying. It's

487
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,879
Speaker 4: in you, not on you. But that motherfucker don't see it.

488
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:21,680
Speaker 4: He don't get it. Bro.

489
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:22,159
Speaker 5: I think.

490
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 2: He knows he's he knows that that's not where he's from.

491
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 2: But he thought the Matrix to him, was the business

492
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 2: part of it. And that's why he's suing Universal. He's

493
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,880
Speaker 2: not the first musician to be upset because he thought

494
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 2: the machine was his machine, and then he found out

495
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 2: he's one of the cubes that goes into the machine

496
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 2: that money comes out the other end. Lots of musicians

497
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 2: and artists have been outraged to find that out. He's

498
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 2: the first person who hasn't said I got one hundred

499
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,360
Speaker 2: million dollars in the bank and my testicles.

500
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Speaker 1: Let me sit here and figure this out. B But

501
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 1: this is but that. But that part is kind of

502
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 1: to me where it gets interesting, right, because the biggest

503
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:03,919
Speaker 1: star that I can think of to really have a

504
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 1: public fight with the label is obviously Michael Jackson around

505
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety five, and they did not destroy him, but

506
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 1: they came pretty close, right. The biggest thing though, that

507
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 1: they wanted from Mike was they wanted that catalog, right,

508
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 1: Like I think they were content to keep Mike going,

509
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 1: but they wanted the ATV catalog, the Beatles catalog, as

510
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 1: they wanted that publishing back, and that was the game

511
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 1: that they were playing on that.

512
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 5: But what I'm.

513
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 1: Saying is even Michael Jackson, they were like, nah, baby,

514
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 1: we got something for you.

515
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 2: And he was as close as anyone to that machine

516
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,360
Speaker 2: being named the Michael Jackson machine.

517
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 3: Right.

518
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,199
Speaker 1: But a major difference between that time and now and

519
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 1: something that I think actually happened and makes this like

520
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 1: legitimately interesting on the litigious front, that's pre telecommunic Telecommunication

521
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 1: Acts of nineteen ninety six that allowed for all these

522
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 1: mergers on top of each other, all these record labels. Right,

523
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,880
Speaker 1: like that clip that goes around of ben stables talking

524
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 1: about at Universal, how all the labels that were under

525
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,679
Speaker 1: Universal been folded into Universal, and Universal is now just

526
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 1: one label. When I was growing up, it was the

527
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 1: big six labels. It's only three labels now. Everybody signed

528
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 1: to one of these three labels. So Kendrick is working

529
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,159
Speaker 1: under Universal. Also, there was a time where this stuff

530
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 1: was disparate enough that if it wasn't necessarily guaranteed that

531
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 1: the two guys are gonna be on the same label,

532
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,120
Speaker 1: but even if they were, the label would have been

533
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,679
Speaker 1: small and manageable enough for somebody to call in and

534
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 1: be like, all right, I'm gonna sit y'all down at

535
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:30,920
Speaker 1: the table and we gonna chill this out.

536
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 5: All the beasts that we could think about.

537
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 1: Really in rap it was Crew versus Crew, which is

538
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 1: a different independent label, and everything else.

539
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,160
Speaker 5: Now these dudes are in the same house.

540
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 1: So Drake, who has had benefactors look out for him

541
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 1: in various ways for all this time, he's like, all right, cool, Well,

542
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 1: I would just go to the bosses, because the bosses

543
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 1: got my back all the time. But the bosses also

544
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,679
Speaker 1: got this dude's back, and they're doing the math on

545
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 1: this and they like, hey, Pemp, I think we don't

546
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 1: go on as far with you as we could possibly go.

547
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 1: This Eddy money right here is rising money on top

548
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 1: of that, and now they're just like, hey, you got

549
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 1: either A you on your own, settle it yourself, or

550
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 1: B we love both of you.

551
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 2: Right well, it's worth noting to that point. That was

552
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 2: one of the early responses to Not Like Us was oh,

553
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 2: this is the last song.

554
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:18,360
Speaker 3: This is the last thing that's going.

555
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,640
Speaker 2: To happen in this because Universal is gonna shut it down,

556
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 2: because they're not gonna let one of their big artists

557
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 2: called their other big artists of pedophile on a song

558
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 2: they're making money off of, and Universal said, actually, we're

559
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 2: fine with people doing whatever they want to do that

560
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 2: makes us money.

561
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 5: We don't give. We don't give yes and getting shot

562
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 5: in the streets.

563
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,159
Speaker 1: You think they care, You think they care about the

564
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 1: destructive nature of your content.

565
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 6: Talking about yeah, let's that man found a lawsuit against

566
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 6: you and saying asking them why didn't they stop not

567
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 6: Like Us after they heard it?

568
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 4: You choose me? Why didn't you? Why you choose him?

569
00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 5: Over meet me.

570
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 1: To be fair, that is a legitimate question. It's just

571
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: not something that you follow a LAWSUITO right, like for example, Drake.

572
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: I don't think Drake is in the wrong with the

573
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: mar de Roses. Right when you got traded and you

574
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 1: was sad and crying about that shit, you came to

575
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,199
Speaker 1: my house. All I'm saying is did you have to

576
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 1: be in the video? Did you have to be on

577
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 1: stage at the concert? And he say you gotta pick

578
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 1: a side, But I'm saying, you ain't got to pick

579
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: the side that's against me. I think that's a fair.

580
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 7: Question, I think. But what's weird about Dracus? He doesn't

581
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 7: understand there's no picking here. They're from the same place.

582
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 7: Damar doesn't choose that side. If you if you from

583
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 7: like Nigga, you know what tom it is. You know

584
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 7: what I'm saying, Like this is cool for the moment,

585
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 7: but like dog, we're from the same place.

586
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 4: We move it afyway.

587
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 7: They cousins probably know each other, you know what I'm saying.

588
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 7: Aunties might get dinner together type shit.

589
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 4: Bro, It's different.

590
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 1: You could have been busy, You could said you had

591
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 1: something to do on the day of the video.

592
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 3: You didn't have to.

593
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 1: Be insteady like, hell, no, try to be there. I mean,

594
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 1: why that hurt the man's feelings?

595
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 4: I see why I hurt the man's finish. But it

596
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 4: was like it was, come on, it was no.

597
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: No, you're correct, you ros and had reasons for doing that.

598
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 3: But Drake's not.

599
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 5: Wrong, is what I'm saying.

600
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 4: So I hear you.

601
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: I hear like, Drake has a point. There's a reason, like,

602
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: but he went too far right as universal.

603
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 2: I didn't make you enough money, like you know what

604
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 2: I mean, like, I haven't made you enough money for.

605
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 4: You to do I have to do.

606
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 5: I give you.

607
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 3: Hungry.

608
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 6: I completely understand why Drake felt that way about Tomorrow.

609
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 6: But I think where where he's opens himself up to

610
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 6: ridicule together is when he does the tough talk that

611
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 6: he did against Tomorrow, right.

612
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 5: Like, like, Bro, you know you can feel, you can say,

613
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 5: you can say, you.

614
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 6: Know, I'm done with Tomorrow. I thought we were cooler

615
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 6: than that. That's completely understandable. And that's but to call

616
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 6: that man a pussy and all that, Like, Bro, no

617
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 6: one in the world is scared of you.

618
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 7: Aubrey in the wrong situations and a white man in

619
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 7: the wrong situations.

620
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 4: You want to be a white man when you talking

621
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 4: to tomorrow. I'm sorry, mister.

622
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 7: You know DeRozan. You you know what I mean. You

623
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,919
Speaker 7: gotta be like that because that's d BO. We understand

624
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 7: that you would have got your ass drug and then

625
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 7: you want to be a nigga about the loss.

626
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 4: Shit, nigga, We ain't going that route. I'm a nigga

627
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 4: in the room.

628
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 7: I'm sorry. I'm not going to the law of this.

629
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 7: That's some whole shit. At least I got my nuts,

630
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 7: he didn't take them. You don't know when to be

631
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 7: what you should be. Fuck nigga, because you ain't from

632
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 7: this shit goofy and.

633
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: I need everybody to understand. You can explain to me

634
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: the logic of the lawsuit. You can tell me no

635
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: matter if you think it's all right right and you

636
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: break the whole thing down, you can do all of

637
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: those things.

638
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 5: I don't care, doesn't matter.

639
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: That's not what we are talking about because we are

640
00:28:59,280 --> 00:28:59,959
Speaker 1: not lawyers.

641
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 5: We don't care about this a single bit.

642
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: Like everybody that saw this, This is not just like

643
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: the thing about people with money or whatever, like did

644
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: y'all watch hacks on HBO. Nah No, I Pete, it's

645
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: worth it's worth checking. But one of the things about Hack,

646
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: one of the things that runs in Hacks is jenis

647
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: Far's character files a lawsuit against this young woman who

648
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: works for her. And they still see each other there,

649
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: they work together and all this, but she filed a

650
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: lawsuit against her, because that's what they do at that level.

651
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 5: Right, you got a dispute, you.

652
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: Can't get to the bottom of it, get you twelve

653
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: white folks take that ship to trials. That's that's what

654
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: that's what they do, right, That's not how this works here.

655
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: That's these aren't the rules of this game. I don't

656
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: know how you didn't get this.

657
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, Like to your point, both you can explain it logically, legally, financially,

658
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 6: all that shit, that doesn't matter because, like I said,

659
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 6: what matters to me, and I think to a matter

660
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 6: to a lot of rat fans, is the emotional motivation

661
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 6: behind it. And that motivation, like I mentioned, is that

662
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 6: man just cannot believe that the whole world enjoyed seeing

663
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 6: him get it, get his teeth kicked in, And that's

664
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 6: what it all comes down to.

665
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a lot to come to terms.

666
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 4: With, but just bro, you gotta you got private privately,

667
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 4: So yeah, you know what I'm saying, figure it out,

668
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 4: figure it out, you know.

669
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 7: And if people come in and like trying to explain

670
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 7: how this makes sense, and I'm the fuck all that, bro,

671
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying, or a lot how Drake won.

672
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 7: If it going tobody numbers, I don't give a fuck

673
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 7: about none of that ship that sho bro, that and

674
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 7: that's some white people shit too, going by numbers.

675
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 4: I'm not going off of that, bro, you know what

676
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 4: I mean.

677
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 7: Somebody's somebody's on the stream talking about a fragile, fragile

678
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 7: op you know what I mean with a white man,

679
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 7: I don't know they's streaming, and another nigga's on the

680
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 7: super Bowl.

681
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 4: Tell me who won, bitch ass nigga.

682
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, think about think about how much times have

683
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 1: changed where part of people's explanation for why they think

684
00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: Drake is whatever he is is because women like his music.

685
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: And I'm not discounting women's opinions on music. And I'm

686
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: not saying that it's bad if women like your music, right,

687
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: I'm not.

688
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 5: Saying their boats don't count.

689
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: I am saying, dude, if your explanation for why you

690
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: like him so much is because they like it. We

691
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: are not the same You're not from your rides, we

692
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: are not from the same state, we are not from

693
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: the same city. We're not from any of the same places.

694
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: The explanations that people make for why Drake is whatever

695
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: it is don't never sound like no shit that I understate.

696
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 7: What's a sort of thing though, when people be saying

697
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 7: that shit at Gucci concert, nigga, who was there women

698
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 7: at Loope concerts? Women nerd hats motherfucker with it with

699
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 7: the dirty chucks.

700
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 4: Where were you at, bitch? You wasn't outside.

701
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 7: You definitely wasn't outside because wherever I was at, they

702
00:31:58,800 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 7: was out with it, you.

703
00:31:59,520 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 5: Know what I'm saying.

704
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 7: So I'm like, bro, that that that that's a that's

705
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 7: a silly, silly, silly argument.

706
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 4: You know what i mean.

707
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 7: Women ain't with me because the music I'm playing, Nigga,

708
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying, They with me because on me.

709
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 4: Fuck nigga, you feel me. I'm you know what I mean,

710
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 4: I'm sorry if that's what you got to do.

711
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 7: But on this side, you hear me, it ain't being

712
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 7: what that and none of that, whether it's to.

713
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: Deliver with your baby, you feel me?

714
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,959
Speaker 4: And I got another one out there too, You hear me?

715
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 5: You know what I.

716
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 7: Mean, ship because Mahinda the Jen Machine. Fuck nigga, I

717
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 7: put a blackle like on that motherfucking you would gasp

718
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 7: and I was playing the funk out of loope, goofy

719
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 7: ass nigga.

720
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: Fuck you mean if I played Drake and you in

721
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: the car, I'm afraid that you gonna think that's how

722
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: I am. I would much rather you listen to this

723
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: ugk And look, there's some flaws to that argument too,

724
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: but if if you got to pick one, I'd much

725
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: rather you think I was Chazz.

726
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 6: Here's yeah for sure, for sure, man, Tony Snow. The

727
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 6: thing about Drake fans like like you like you touched on.

728
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 6: But one of the things they always point to is

729
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 6: is you know, you can't play can't check around the

730
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 6: woman like. That was one of their the things during

731
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 6: this beef. And I think that's a real big deal

732
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 6: with a lot of Drake fans because like that whole

733
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 6: woman argument, that is an extension of what they perceived

734
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 6: to be cool, right like, because the subtext there is

735
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 6: is this music won't make me look cool around woman,

736
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 6: but Drake's music will, right, So they have this attachment

737
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 6: that they think Drake embodies cool. And of course when

738
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 6: you see something that in bodies cool, you you want

739
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 6: to kind of assimilate to that and follow that. So

740
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 6: when people are calling Drake a lamee, it feels like

741
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 6: people are calling them lanes. And I think that are

742
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,719
Speaker 6: exactly And that's why so many of them go so

743
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 6: hard from me, because it's it's bigger than just you know,

744
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 6: saying this rapper is laying. You're saying you thought this

745
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 6: rapper was cool and you emulated this rap because you

746
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 6: thought that's what was But you're lame to by extension,

747
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 6: and the thing.

748
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: Is to another one. We won't even know you did

749
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: the first move. Why'd you another one? I don't know

750
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: who the other one is? For you to PUDs of

751
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: other rappers out there.

752
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 7: It's women in my in my in my missions talking

753
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 7: about they embarrassed, you embarrassed like this Drake shit is

754
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,800
Speaker 7: embarrassing them. They talking about he you know, he acting

755
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 7: like a brad right now. That's that's the thing. They said,

756
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 7: Drake ass is acting like a brad nigga.

757
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 4: That's like a half a step from a connor.

758
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 7: You know what I mean, Nigga, this is this is

759
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 7: this is a woman that said this, Well, so what

760
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 7: the fuck argument are you talking about?

761
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 5: It's weird.

762
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 4: You're just being weird in front of everybody at this

763
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 4: But this the.

764
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: Other part, I feel like they need to catch And

765
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: I've always thought that this was a like major part

766
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: of this whole thing that's been lost, which is in

767
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: a time like it's wartime, right, Your your core most

768
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: loyal people are the ones who will go stand by you.

769
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: So California stood by Kendrick Looward a very powerful way.

770
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 5: Drake's most loyal base for all this.

771
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: Time was women, right. I don't think there's any doubting

772
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: god question about that. Like his core bass really it

773
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: was dudes that liked him, but it was really women

774
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: that was holding him down. And he blew that to

775
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: smitherings with the way he dealt with Megan thee Stallion

776
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: and when it all happened, all he all he had

777
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: only people that had his back was Kevin Durant and Lanes.

778
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: I am keeping Kevin Durant separate from the Lanes, but

779
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: it was Kevin Durant who rides for him.

780
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 5: Tougher than I could ever.

781
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: Imagine, and millions of lanes, that's all that he had left,

782
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 1: and and all those you gotta play Drake around the girls.

783
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: Girls ain't want to hear that no more because he

784
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: sounded like a sucker to them now because he engaged

785
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: in some sucker behavior as far as they was concerned.

786
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: And ain't no going back. You don't earn your way

787
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: out of suckle with them. It just don't work that way.

788
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 1: And now he is sucker for.

789
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 8: The world, and I suck it yourself from I think

790
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 8: part of the shock for Drake too is, you know,

791
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 8: and one thing like we've I would not say we

792
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 8: were Drake on this show, but we've given Drake credit.

793
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 3: Tyler's given Drake a lot of credit.

794
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 2: For the length of his run in an arena that

795
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 2: usually you don't get to be in the ring for

796
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 2: that long.

797
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 3: Right.

798
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 2: He thought that the Internet was his era. He thought

799
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 2: that like that, that that was the core base was

800
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 2: people on the Internet. We talked about this with the

801
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 2: meek Mill stuff. He knew how to use the platforms

802
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 2: that everyone was.

803
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:25,479
Speaker 3: On better than anybody else.

804
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,240
Speaker 2: And I think part of why you see the public

805
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 2: hurt in him is all of that turned against him too,

806
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 2: So to to Bo's point, what's his core constituency? At

807
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 2: this point, he's going to the labels saying, at least

808
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 2: it was you, right, you were at least my core

809
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 2: constituency because we Internet doesn't give a fuck, the label

810
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 2: doesn't give a fuck. No one is up on top

811
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 2: of the mountain forever, in anything, in anything.

812
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,399
Speaker 1: And I think he's I feel like, and I don't

813
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,280
Speaker 1: know the man, and I understand the day to psychoanalyze,

814
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: but I think his crashed out is you not on

815
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: top no more? That's over.

816
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 5: Kendrick Lamar has taken the top spot.

817
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 1: Okay, but there's a lot of space between the top

818
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: and the bottom. There's a lot of space between the

819
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: top and the middle. There's a lot of room for

820
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 1: you to continue and do whatever your thing is. But

821
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: you have to just take this l right, This l

822
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: is what it is. You just kind of got to

823
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: take it.

824
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 5: And he can't stand apparently not being the king of

825
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 5: this whole thing right again, I judged the rest of

826
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 5: you very harshly, forever allowing his monarchy to ever happen.

827
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 1: You know, I turned around, nobody was behind I thought

828
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: this right was fired, I'll fuck with the music.

829
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,240
Speaker 4: The music. Yeah, I thought you didn't, didn't.

830
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: You know he's about this music though. I thought he

831
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: could really rap right. And I'll never forget. Once I

832
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: was was a graduate school and I went to this

833
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: discussion and its professor Nate Phillis Jackson Phillip Jackson's Bad

834
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: Lady Boy. If Phillis was talking about this was a

835
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: discussion about, you know, the way that we was talking

836
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: about women in the raps and all that stuff. And

837
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,879
Speaker 1: she made a point that stuck with me forever, which

838
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 1: was everybody keeps defending this on the basis of how

839
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: good somebody is, and I don't understand why being good

840
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: at this matters that arch Yeah, And that was my

841
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: thing with Drake, just because you good at this, I

842
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: just don't like what this stands for. And then he

843
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: put out Marvin's Room and I was just like, hell, no,

844
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: we ain't doing this. We this That that was That

845
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 1: was really when I was like, I quit, I surrender.

846
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: I'm like on every He hadn't even tried to do

847
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: that again, right, because he's so angry in his soul

848
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: these days, he can't even he can't even tap into

849
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: his inner symphony.

850
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:34,879
Speaker 7: Moore.

851
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:38,439
Speaker 4: He really, he really think he hard.

852
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 7: And I think that's one thing too, is he didn't

853
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 7: he forgot who he was to a degree to his

854
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:48,240
Speaker 7: head like, dude, you you make bops. You're not tough.

855
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 7: You're not you know you're not. And I dude, like,

856
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 7: as a as a nigga, that's not tough. Bro, I

857
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 7: lean into that motherfucker the fuck you feel me?

858
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 4: You know what I mean. I'm not out here acting

859
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 4: hard because I'm not. But he thought he was tough.

860
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 4: You feel me? And then he ran into a monster.

861
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 7: H and he should and before before, before he before

862
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 7: he fucking jumped out there. If he had any self awareness,

863
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 7: he would have realized this is not where, This is

864
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 7: not the arena in which I want to spark in

865
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 7: front of the world.

866
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 4: Let me let him have that. He threw a jab.

867
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 4: I'm gonna keep this brand and keep this.

868
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 7: Train rolling over here. He lost himself, jumped out there

869
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 7: with a monster and got destroyed. And then the thing

870
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 7: you can get destroyed, you'd be like, yo, this fucking

871
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 7: monster beat my ass. But at least it took a monster.

872
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 7: Let me take my ass on.

873
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 4: No, I'm gonna still.

874
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 7: Bro you ever stepped on a fucking on on a

875
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 7: on a bug and his legs still shaking. Bitch, your

876
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 7: dad lean he is over with See what's going on on.

877
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 4: The other side. Bitch, what's your fighting? Faulk, It ain't happening.

878
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 7: Dog, that leg need to quit twitching. Nigga is over

879
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 7: your cook.

880
00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 4: That's the nick.

881
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 7: Ain't nigga you got jazz draw Sit your ass over

882
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 7: here somewhere.

883
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 4: It's not happening. Ain't no winning this. You can't. He can't.

884
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 7: He can't accept it. He's lost me this he's there's

885
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 7: no self awareness. It's crazy to see.

886
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 6: Like like to your point, the reason he won against

887
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,760
Speaker 6: Meek was self awareness. The reasons he lost against Pusher

888
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 6: and Kendrick was lack of self There was a shift

889
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 6: that happened in between those battles, right, because the way

890
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 6: he beat me, I feel like we need to revisit

891
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 6: that and do some strength of schedule re evaluation.

892
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 5: It was a bad matchup for me.

893
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, but but but we've seen Meek isn't the sharpest

894
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 6: knife in the draw in, right, We've seen that, And

895
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 6: and I'll come back to that when I talk about.

896
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:49,760
Speaker 7: You call it call right now bro, but can anywhere

897
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 7: he's had.

898
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:51,240
Speaker 4: A moment with these kids.

899
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, but look, I'm not I'm not here to rewrite history.

900
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 6: Drake caught a body versus me. It wasn't for right like,

901
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 6: and it was a historic win because Drake, like that

902
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,240
Speaker 6: was the first battle where we saw that social media

903
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 6: was going to be the judge and jury during battles,

904
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,439
Speaker 6: and Drake levershed that ship perfectly. And like you said, John,

905
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,439
Speaker 6: he was leaning. He was leaning into being self aware,

906
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 6: realized that he wasn't a tough guy. He was like, yeah,

907
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 6: we respected it because he was like he was like

908
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 6: mikas a certified goon from Philly.

909
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 5: I can't outstreet this dude.

910
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 6: What I will do, Yeah, what I will do though,

911
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 6: is point out how he's getting bodied by a square

912
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 6: here by a singing nigga, right Like that was his

913
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 6: whole anger. He was like, I'll make myself the butt

914
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 6: of the joke, but the bigger butt of the joke

915
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 6: will be Meek losing to a butt of the joke. Masterful,

916
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 6: masterful strategy right there. But something happened when it came

917
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 6: to push you and Kendrick bro right like like like

918
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 6: he wasn't going to be the guy who realized he

919
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,439
Speaker 6: wasn't a tough guy. He was talking crazy to those two.

920
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 6: He was in his mob ties. Don eraon, Like I said,

921
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 6: we gotta adjust for straight.

922
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 4: Push his wife by name.

923
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:52,439
Speaker 5: Dog.

924
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 7: Listen, you brought up her wife, and then you're confused

925
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 7: with the fact that he's fucked everybody that.

926
00:41:59,320 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 4: You fuck with.

927
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 5: You brought up the mass bro you.

928
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,760
Speaker 7: And and that shows that he's confused by the response.

929
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 7: That's some sucker shit.

930
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 4: Well like when you bring up a mass wife, that

931
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,280
Speaker 4: opens up everything.

932
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: Well, well, hold on, Let's be clear about Drake though.

933
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: One boundary place that he seems I don't want to

934
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: say struggle with, like something he thinks is cute that

935
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 1: most of us know we'll get you killed is dealing

936
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:24,839
Speaker 1: with women or talking about women just because some dude did.

937
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 5: Yeah. Right, he always clipping back with your girl, thinks

938
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 5: I'm cooler than you, like.

939
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 1: That, follow following them after something happens, and all of

940
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: this stuff, right, Like, I just I don't understand how

941
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 1: worst case scenario hadn't come to find him any sooner

942
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: based on that sort of behavior, right, because I thought

943
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 1: the mistake that he made in both of those battles

944
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:44,879
Speaker 1: was off the rip.

945
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 5: In both cases, he underestimated them his approach.

946
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: He tried, it's what happened with Jay, but Jay did

947
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: a better job of it. With Takeover, he would with

948
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: you know this, this is dismissing, right, not realizing. No,

949
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: these dudes hate you, man like you're not there. They're

950
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 1: they're coming back that I playing this game the same

951
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: way that you played it. Like that to me was

952
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: where he messed up. And then with Kendrick, he was like, Okay,

953
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: the argument that Kendrick is making against me is that

954
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 1: he is real, whatever real means, he is real and

955
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: I am not real. I have to demonstrate that he

956
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: is not real, but I don't have any tools to

957
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 1: demonstrate that he.

958
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 5: Is not real.

959
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: And I really don't have any tools to demonstrate that

960
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 1: I'm real, because, as we just talked about, the last

961
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 1: time I did this, I.

962
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 5: Won by being like I ain't even the real dude.

963
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: But the way Kendrick was attacking him, that wasn't an

964
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: option because he would have had to he would have

965
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: had to admit that he was an impost.

966
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 5: He had no play right, he didn't know.

967
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 1: He just he went into one place that I told

968
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: him to start with talk about him being short and

969
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: do that would come. I mean, look, it's always fun, right,

970
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: it's always a crowd pleaser. Is a domestic violence when

971
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: the girl is bigger than you? Rate line a great job, Drake, Like,

972
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 1: I don't want to take away you actually put out

973
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 1: some pretty dope stuff along the way. You just gotta raise.

974
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: But I want to help the guys out of an

975
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: engagement with to chad Rum. As we were talking about

976
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: a lack of self aware and I don't know who

977
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: Marty mac fly is, but while we having this discussion,

978
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: being the person who says Marvin's Room is a classic, son.

979
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 5: What are you about? Fact?

980
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 1: Like, when you really stop and looking at yourself in

981
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: the mirror and you hear what we got to say

982
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 1: about this, and you are like that is a classic?

983
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:17,320
Speaker 5: Do you see yourself in that record?

984
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: Like you as probably a grown man at this point

985
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: in your life and you hear that.

986
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 5: So I'm just saying you can do better, you.

987
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: Know, like, yeah, yeah, I'm just I'm just asking you as.

988
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,439
Speaker 7: The party probably cool, you know, he probably been cool

989
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 7: with us, but yeah, yeah, I bet he was.

990
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 1: But I'm just telling him right now, I don't think

991
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 1: you understand how you look. You look like a us D,

992
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: A grade A suckerrific self, and I don't think that's

993
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 1: what you're trying to do in a room like this

994
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: with the real and so like. For your own sake,

995
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you right now, stop listening to that song.

996
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 4: That's that's what is you about? What type of nigga

997
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 4: is you?

998
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 7: One the two questions that'll make a nigger ankles like

999
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 7: to shiver at the knees.

1000
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 4: A woman asking what type of nigga is you?

1001
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 6: And the thing is that question is one thousand rhetorical

1002
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:14,240
Speaker 6: because you did something that shows us already made.

1003
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 5: There's no answer that he could have given me.

1004
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 4: What are you about? That's crazy?

1005
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 5: What do you stand for?

1006
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: Again?

1007
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 3: Listen to them?

1008
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: What do you stand for?

1009
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,720
Speaker 4: UGK is out here? You playing that? Wow?

1010
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1011
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I hate it.

1012
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 3: But I think one thing I want to one thing

1013
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 3: I want to bring out.

1014
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 2: Because I've not seen a lot of people discuss this

1015
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 2: is there's been a lot of people talking about these

1016
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 2: lawsuits are going to be a big part of his legacy.

1017
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 2: And what I want to point out is these are

1018
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 2: unwinnable lawsuits in a country with the First Amendment and

1019
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 2: the lawsuits are not going to be his legacy. But

1020
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 2: consider what his legacy is going to be when the

1021
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 2: defamation lawsuit about someone calling you a pedophile is dismissed.

1022
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: Oh, I do think he just his legacy is very

1023
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 1: much so stamped by these lawsuits.

1024
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 5: But when they're but when.

1025
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 2: The lawsuits don't, like again, when they throw your lawsuit

1026
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 2: for defamation out of court and say no, actually, like,

1027
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 2: I just I don't think people are understanding how like

1028
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 2: these lawsuits the people arguing for Drake think these lawsuits

1029
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 2: are going to go to court and that there's gonna

1030
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,720
Speaker 2: be a dossier unveiled that proves that Drake.

1031
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 5: Is a victim.

1032
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 2: These lawsuits are not going to court. That is not

1033
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 2: how this country works. That is definitely not how universal works.

1034
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 2: So again, consider what it's going to be like on

1035
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 2: the internet when the United States government says, no, your

1036
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 2: lawsuit for defamation about being called a pedophile is dismissed.

1037
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 7: He took the he tried to devalue the numbers, probably

1038
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 7: understanding Lay's probably told him it's not gonna go to court,

1039
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 7: and it just made him.

1040
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 4: It devalued him.

1041
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 2: The pedophile lawsuit is the second lawsuit.

1042
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 4: The numbers, But.

1043
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: Well, let me let me ask you this, because you

1044
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 1: just hit on something I wanted to get to about this,

1045
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: and I know that, well, Guardy here is a little younger,

1046
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: but us us old old, oldest cats over here. Maybe

1047
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: we're the wrong people. Maybe I'm like I'm asking people

1048
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: too close to me. But I raised the question on

1049
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: Twitter the other day where I was like, hey, man,

1050
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: when did people really start hearing about sales in a

1051
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 1: discussion of something like who your favorite rapper is and

1052
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: those things like when did the numbers matter in making

1053
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: your case? And so I bring that up in this

1054
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 1: case where who cares what the stream numbers were?

1055
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:38,439
Speaker 3: Right?

1056
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 1: Like that? Like that goes to Thomas point that you

1057
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 1: just can't believe that that many people enjoyed calling you

1058
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 1: a sucker around the world. But in the end, all

1059
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: this comes down to is how did you feel, brother,

1060
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: when you heard that shit for the first time? Like

1061
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: it took me ten fifteen years to understand Na's one

1062
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 1: against Jay because of the way that he made Jay

1063
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,439
Speaker 1: field the first time he heard either, and then that dude

1064
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: was on the radio crying about it. Right, how did

1065
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: you feel, Drake when you heard meet the grams. How

1066
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: did you feel when you heard you?

1067
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 3: For you?

1068
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: How do you feel when you hear wh wh wh wh?

1069
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 7: What?

1070
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 4: How did them numbers?

1071
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,800
Speaker 1: Ain't got nothing to do with that. This is about

1072
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: what's going on right here. This is on the ground situation,

1073
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: and we're telling you you lose.

1074
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 7: It and when you hurt and how you response, that

1075
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 7: shows who you are. When you took an ass whooping

1076
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 7: and how you respond, that shows who you are at

1077
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 7: the core. And your ass called the law if you

1078
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 7: take an ass when I'm never listen, have y'all ever

1079
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 7: seen a nigga that ass.

1080
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:40,760
Speaker 4: Whooping You thought that nigga was a sucker.

1081
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 7: No, if I see a nigga that ass whoop, if

1082
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 7: he acted, if he took that motherfuck in a particular way,

1083
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 7: respect you. You ain't gonna win every fight, but if

1084
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 7: you ain't a bitch when you get your ass whooped,

1085
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 7: I'm gonna respect you after it, because if a fight

1086
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 7: come with some shit, I respect that. If you take

1087
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 7: an ass whoop it and then you called a law,

1088
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 7: you a bitch. It's not that you got your ass wolf,

1089
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 7: it's how you responded to get your assof And we're

1090
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 7: seeing who that nigga is?

1091
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 4: He called he talking numbers, He talking numbers.

1092
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 7: Numbers, where like you said, what and what where did

1093
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:14,760
Speaker 7: the numbers matter in this equation?

1094
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 4: And then this is not involved numbers, nigga.

1095
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 2: And then the next day, by the way, I'm not

1096
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 2: a pedophile, bro, the numbers just also, bro, And like

1097
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 2: I said, like I said, it comes back to me

1098
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 2: just just asking him again, what do you gain here,

1099
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 2: like say, the save this ship to go to trial?

1100
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 5: There was discovery made that there was some juice.

1101
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 6: And of the numbers, what does it mean if not

1102
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 6: like us had seven hundred million true streams instead of

1103
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 6: a billion?

1104
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 5: What does that fucking count? Bro? What does that matter?

1105
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 6: No one is gonna remember the streaming numbers when we

1106
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 6: look back on this. We were gonna remember how we

1107
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 6: felt we hurt this ship. We don't remember how it

1108
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 6: dominated the whole summer. That's what we're gonna remember, bro.

1109
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:54,720
Speaker 4: Period.

1110
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 1: All the why we wanted to have this discussion at

1111
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 1: first is just talking about the year that Kendrick right,

1112
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 1: and I can't remember. We haven't done a show since

1113
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: this started, right, I think, like I haven't come on

1114
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 1: y'all show about this. This is my big thing, and

1115
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 1: I guess December is almost here, so we'll see how

1116
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: it goes. I'm not being hyperbolic when I say this.

1117
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: If this were back in the day and this what

1118
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: I'm about to say mattered the way that he did,

1119
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: I would think that unquestionably the twenty twenty four Time

1120
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: Magazine Man of the Year has been Kendrick Lamar Like

1121
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 1: I think that, And I know why somebody would think

1122
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 1: that this is being dramatic. I'm not even a big

1123
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 1: Kendrick fan, like I really don't. I really don't like Drake,

1124
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: but I'm not a Kendrick devotee in that way.

1125
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 5: But not like us.

1126
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: After it came out, almost everything felt influenced by it.

1127
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 1: The Democratic Party started off run of the Kabla Harris

1128
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 1: campaign basically would not like us as being the theme, right,

1129
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 1: there's some problems with that, just to be clear, Like

1130
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: it's a little bit of a fascistic sort of tape

1131
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 1: when you really think about it, but not like us

1132
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: change the world. It is to me, the first instant

1133
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 1: class that's it that there's ever been. This thing was

1134
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 1: a classic in twenty four hours. Like the fact that

1135
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: now you could put a song out and a DJ

1136
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: could run it in the club that night, but the

1137
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: fact that people got to the club that night and

1138
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 1: already knew the song. He dropped the shit at like

1139
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: nine or ten o'clock Easter time, and if you spun

1140
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 1: it at one, by then everybody knew the song. It

1141
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: was knocking all over the country the night that it

1142
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: came out, and it stayed, and it stayed in the state.

1143
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: And then you had that concert where he did the

1144
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: song five times and it stayed in it stayed, And

1145
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: now we're five months past that, almost six months past

1146
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 1: that concert, it still matters. It went back in the

1147
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,800
Speaker 1: top five again. After this boy dropped his lawsuit.

1148
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 7: And he dropped the album that didn't even get clue

1149
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 7: to joint, so he ain't trying to run no numbers

1150
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 7: up on that motherfucker.

1151
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 4: He left that shit by hisself.

1152
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 7: Well, he didn't even mention Drake's name, and when he

1153
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 7: would try to mention Drake's name, he blinked it.

1154
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 4: He would like, he would, you know, mute the shit.

1155
00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 1: But see, that's where I think a flaw in the

1156
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: lawsuit is apparently, if it's true that you have this

1157
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 1: option where you can opt in and take a lower

1158
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 1: royalty to get a bigger blast on it, right, which

1159
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 1: seems to be with Drake is alluding to with the

1160
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 1: thirty percent thing in the paperwork. But Kendrick and his

1161
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 1: people had the option of opting into this. One thing

1162
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: we know is that he would. You know, I don't

1163
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: know the particulars on this, but he did whatever it

1164
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 1: was that allowed people to use his songs on YouTube

1165
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: to break it down and everything else.

1166
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:26,240
Speaker 5: This isn't a money play.

1167
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 1: It is totally in the realm of possibility that Kendrick

1168
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 1: was like, no, put this in front of everybody. I

1169
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: want everybody to hear this. He wanted to destroy.

1170
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 7: You and eight that's hey, you thought it was a

1171
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 7: boxing match with referees. Y'all was in the street.

1172
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 4: Fuck nigga. Yes, no gloves, no rules. I do not

1173
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,919
Speaker 4: like you. Fuck you do you know what I'm saying.

1174
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 1: You thought y'all was.

1175
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 7: Gonna shake hands after the twelve rounds. Bitch, I'm fighting

1176
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 7: you with. This is to the death, fucking me. You know.

1177
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: He hit the street. He thought it was thriller, right,

1178
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: Maybe it was gonna be some ghosts out here, but

1179
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: we were just going dance, No, sir.

1180
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 5: It was beat it. You gotta right.

1181
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 2: Fought a short dude from Compton Centennial High School before Brook.

1182
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 6: It's like Drake's Drake's hole approach during that battle was

1183
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,280
Speaker 6: was you're not on my level. You're not the rapper

1184
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,399
Speaker 6: that I am. And Kittrick's whole ship was fuck that level.

1185
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 5: Ship.

1186
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 6: You shouldn't even be here period. Here you shouldn't be

1187
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 6: doing the same thing I'm doing. Tears levels wouldever be Damn.

1188
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 6: I don't give a fuck if if you don't view

1189
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 6: me as as being as good of a rapper than you,

1190
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 6: I view you as someone who shouldn't be a rapper period.

1191
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 7: You shouldn't be in the same room as me. We

1192
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 7: are different, you know what I mean?

1193
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: He would to vote for Trump to get about the

1194
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 1: country he gonna call that's on Drake love b G.

1195
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, nasty, nasty, nasty bro like I've just I've never

1196
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:04,800
Speaker 7: seen anything.

1197
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 2: Security tip line on himself is that.

1198
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 1: It is I I am not a avengeful person.

1199
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 5: I'm just not built like that.

1200
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 1: I just don't care, right, I wish I was a

1201
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:23,760
Speaker 1: vengeful person so that I could fully appreciate how satisfying

1202
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:28,399
Speaker 1: this has to be for him in his destruction. Right,

1203
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 1: people say crazy stuff with Bobby, Like, there are people

1204
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,879
Speaker 1: who hate, Like I have real live haters, right, Most

1205
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: people talk all that noise they got. I live at Harlem, Man,

1206
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 1: every teach shirt about the haters and all this. Ain't

1207
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 1: nobody thinking about you. I have actual haters. I have

1208
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 1: people who are actually out to get me, who have

1209
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:46,760
Speaker 1: tried to like ruin my career.

1210
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 5: Thank god, none of them can.

1211
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 1: Rap like I think of it, like like I just

1212
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: imagine all the time that what if these people I've

1213
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 1: been argued with in various places and all this stuff,

1214
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 1: like somebody's made a diss record about but you can

1215
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 1: find it on YouTube. Thank god he can't wrap because

1216
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 1: I just can't.

1217
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 4: Imagine what it's like the bid I gotta tap it.

1218
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 5: Oh man, it's.

1219
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: A Kansas City Chiefs fan. I don't know what he

1220
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 1: was mad about. Like this is the pre Mahomes Chiefs.

1221
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 1: I don't know what he was mad. I think it's

1222
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 1: called funck Bowaddie Jones. You weren't giving Alex Smith enough credit.

1223
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 3: For his taste.

1224
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: I think that's what I think it may have been

1225
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 1: that year they started off like ten and oh or

1226
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 1: something like that.

1227
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 5: But I was like, funk out of here, right, Alex Smith.

1228
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: But it's got like the it's got the Florida State

1229
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: Joint in the beach is something I mistaken that God

1230
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 1: he couldn't rap.

1231
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 6: One of the reasons we wanted to you on and

1232
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 6: I told the group chat is that I think it

1233
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 6: would be an interesting perspective to have someone who was

1234
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:53,839
Speaker 6: never really that high on Kendrick because you have if

1235
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 6: you just submitted yourself, yes, his twenty twenty four. I

1236
00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 6: think it's an all time great year for a rapper,

1237
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,760
Speaker 6: maybe the greatest ever. Yeah, and and and I feel

1238
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 6: like and I feel like it was so important for

1239
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 6: him to drop gn X in that context because a

1240
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 6: lot of them they say, like, how can you say

1241
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 6: that's an old time great year when we never got

1242
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 6: an album?

1243
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 5: Well, you can't say that anymore. We got gn X, right, and.

1244
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 6: So so so I'm just curious, like, has the year

1245
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 6: that he had, you know, for someone who was who

1246
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,760
Speaker 6: admitted he was lukewarm on him, I see like risen

1247
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,359
Speaker 6: in in your rankings and and and your you know

1248
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 6: how you view on all right, So.

1249
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 1: The first day I want to touch on like I

1250
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 1: wasn't lukewarm on him actually, Like I looked at my

1251
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 1: stack of records, I got like three or four Kendrick records,

1252
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 1: like physical yes, So so I'm a little more into

1253
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 1: it apparently that I had even given him. I like,

1254
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: I got the untitled Little Master. Though maybe I was

1255
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: a little yeah, yeah, Like maybe it was a little

1256
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 1: more into him that I had given myself credit for

1257
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 1: on it. But you made an interesting point in people saying, well,

1258
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 1: it can't be his year because he didn't have an album.

1259
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 1: And I am beginning my old campaign to get us

1260
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 1: to stop looking at things generally, but music specifically with

1261
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: this kind of checklist sort of Outlook, what happens is

1262
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 1: I've been reading these books about this stuff, So forgive

1263
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: me getting a little nerdy in my Neil Postman space.

1264
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 1: But once we were able to quantify things, we then

1265
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: got to a place where, instead of using the quantification

1266
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 1: as a tool for quantifying, became a requirement. So then

1267
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 1: it becomes if you don't do X, Y and Z,

1268
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: then you can't do it, which which basically robs us

1269
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 1: of our independence as thinkers and evaluators and forces us

1270
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: to just become box checkers.

1271
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 5: Right, We're just like checking the cars as they go past.

1272
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 1: We don't need him to put out an album for

1273
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: this to have been his year, right, We don't need like,

1274
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 1: we don't need.

1275
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 5: Him to say that.

1276
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: You can't tell me anybody has had an impact on

1277
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 1: both rap and the world this year, like Kendrick Lamar period.

1278
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 3: You can't do it.

1279
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 1: Let's and let's say the only things he had put

1280
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 1: out and it was no gn X. Let's say the

1281
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: only things that he put out were that burst on

1282
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 1: like that six sixteen in La Euphoria, Meet the Grams

1283
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 1: and not like us.

1284
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 5: Already, Like I said, I going off the vibes.

1285
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 4: We see how it's affecting things. You know what I'm saying.

1286
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 4: We got to somebody.

1287
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 1: If somebody put out an album with those five songs

1288
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 1: and people farting for the rest of them were still

1289
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: saying that this is like an all time impactful sort.

1290
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 1: It was like that Houdini album that had five minutes

1291
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 1: of funking friends and all that, like four major smash

1292
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 1: impactful sorts of hits. Yes, this is his year. I

1293
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 1: don't know who you pulling out that number two, my

1294
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 1: old ass, You're probably pulling out somebody I've only heard of, right, Dog,

1295
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 1: I think.

1296
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 7: A year, bro, and her record was good like I was.

1297
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 7: She went up to charge as far as like one

1298
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 7: of the coldest bro. You know what I'm saying, Like

1299
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying, like.

1300
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 1: For real, But what it is about it, there was

1301
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 1: a lot of me right now, bro with me about her.

1302
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 5: Is why I dig it is just it's how does

1303
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 5: that ship make you feel?

1304
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 1: Like? Deep down, all this stuff comes back to, like

1305
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 1: how did all of this make you feel?

1306
00:58:58,120 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 5: Whatever it is?

1307
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 1: And with Kendrick, even if you hated what he did, Drake,

1308
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 1: you gotta acknowledge nothing Drake did this year other than.

1309
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 5: Be a sucker affected people on the other side.

1310
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 1: What Kendrick did stand in tall affected people over there

1311
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 1: right now. For me with the rankings, I was thinking

1312
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 1: about this and like what it is that makes somebody

1313
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 1: like a goden Sea or something like that for me?

1314
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 1: And it also again falls in line with my desire.

1315
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 1: And I've made these mistakes in the past. I've just

1316
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 1: changed my outlook about this stuff about using metrics and

1317
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 1: there's this thing or whatever that goes on, like you know,

1318
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 1: you boys be riding hard for Lebron James patting the

1319
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 1: stats on the back end and I'm like, cool, but

1320
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 1: it ain't never felt like it felt in ninety two,

1321
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 1: like there are things that happen and.

1322
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 5: You're not You're not gonna make a case. And I

1323
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 5: made a point.

1324
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 1: I did south By Southwest last year, and I was

1325
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 1: talking about the Lebron Jordan thing, and I was like, look,

1326
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 1: you could present this case all you want, but the

1327
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 1: reality is I was there for the other stuff, and

1328
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 1: your case is not overriding the fact that I was

1329
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 1: there to a degree for Kendrick as good as he

1330
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 1: is and technically how good he is, and I could

1331
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 1: point to all the things he does well and it's

1332
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 1: this whole range of skills and he does great storytelling.

1333
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 1: And you know, I ain't really into this Wuiji board rap, right,

1334
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 1: these motherfuckers with these decoder rings trying to figure this

1335
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 1: shit out like I had like this by making all

1336
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 1: these videos, I can try to work that fucking hard.

1337
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:17,959
Speaker 1: I got a job, right, you know, Like, that's that's

1338
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 1: not me. I appreciate the straightforward nature of this album,

1339
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 1: for example, but that's just not me. But in the end,

1340
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 1: ice Que from nineteen eighty eight to nineteen ninety two,

1341
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 1: you go back and listen to straight out of competent,

1342
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 1: and at least for me, there's nothing Kendrick Lamar has

1343
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 1: done that feels like Q made me feel listening to

1344
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: straight out of Compton. That's not not if the worst

1345
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 1: thing I ever say about Kendrick Lamar is he's not

1346
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 1: Ice Cube. I'm not saying a terrible thing for him, right,

1347
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 1: But where I would say that this in my world

1348
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 1: would elevate him on a list if I was doing

1349
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 1: it is what he's doing is so moral, right, Like,

1350
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 1: this is what I believe, This is what I think

1351
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 1: rap should be, and at this point in my life,

1352
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 1: standing on a belief is more important than anything else.

1353
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 1: I don't believe that this dude belongs here. I don't

1354
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 1: believe that the way he and other people in this

1355
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 1: industry are comporting themselves works. I'm gonna change that all

1356
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 1: by myself, and not even if I gonna do that,

1357
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put out work that does that, that makes

1358
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 1: the point and hits like a hammer without being unnecessarily preachy.

1359
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 4: That's hard to say. Fuck everybody that's on my body.

1360
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 7: It's not preaching, Nigga. That's standing on something. You know

1361
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 7: what I'm saying, standing on something you know.

1362
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 1: And that to me is as unforgettable in this and

1363
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 1: as I look around and in a time where people

1364
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: I have the hardest time fight of something to believe in,

1365
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 1: and everything gets more and more flimsy, one man stood

1366
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 1: on his own square and said, Nah, this shit does matter.

1367
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 5: It's supposed to matter, and if.

1368
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 1: Nobody else want to act like it matters, I'm gonna

1369
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 1: act like it matters that core of my.

1370
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 5: Soul and that against the biggest rapper in the world.

1371
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, sure, and him at his own game as well,

1372
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 7: Like I'm gonna go to the I'm gonna play away

1373
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 7: game with this Bob ship and cook your ass by

1374
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 7: forty nigga. You know what I'm saying, Like like, that's crazy,

1375
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 7: that's crazy, that's crazy.

1376
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm gonna make it impossible to stand next

1377
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 1: to you. I think it's such that anybody that rides

1378
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 1: with you at this point looks like a sucker.

1379
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 5: There is no neutral, there is no middle that see.

1380
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 1: That's and that's what you make with the rosen where

1381
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 1: I'm saying you ain't have to go to the video

1382
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: and kids like, no, there ain't no middle dog period.

1383
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 7: You with me or you not anybody that sympathizes them,

1384
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 7: he called Snoop and Snoop said, yeah, it was edibles.

1385
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, the most conflicted first man

1386
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 6: on the planet.

1387
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 4: I mean they always did clock conflict a verse.

1388
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, for so long time it

1389
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 1: become a lifestyle. I guess you know what I'm saying.

1390
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 7: So right right, But yeah, like he called, this is

1391
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 7: we talk, but this last part, this is the man

1392
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 7: that on stage handed Snoop the throne. And he even said, Yo,

1393
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 7: my Boyop, Kendrick Snoop handed Kided the throne. And we

1394
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 7: saw Kendrick crying that ship. We were emotional watching that.

1395
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 7: And he still was like, Yo, it's one side of

1396
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 7: the other, you know what I mean. Hey, that's standing

1397
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 7: on something gee like, that's standing on something.

1398
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:24,959
Speaker 6: Bro like on whacked out murals, like he's legitimately confused

1399
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 6: that Little Wayne didn't reach out to him to congratulate

1400
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 6: him on bodying bodying his protege. He was like bro

1401
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 6: like like like like like, I don't get any any

1402
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 6: DAPs for for murdering your man, you know.

1403
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 7: What I'm saying. Like he said, it's whatever though, and

1404
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 7: he said it's whatever. Though you know what I'm saying. Cool,

1405
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 7: you know we're moving on from.

1406
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 6: That because and you know why Kendrick felt that it

1407
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 6: was Wayne, because he was like, deep down, Wayne, I

1408
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 6: know you a real nigga. You knew that this is

1409
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 6: a bad you know what I'm saying, And I expected

1410
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 6: to see that real nigga sut of you right there,

1411
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 6: like that was his angle there.

1412
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 5: Bro have we heard from Charlamagne yet?

1413
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:01,959
Speaker 1: By the way, that's actually the person I'm most curious about.

1414
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 1: He called it six months ago that Trake was gonna suit.

1415
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 1: Did you have him talking about that? Don't let no

1416
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 1: white comedia talk about black women. I assumed that that

1417
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 1: was about Andrew Schultz and that was in referenced.

1418
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, academic said, and adults back and said, is he

1419
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 6: too woke to to catch a joke?

1420
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 3: And yes, but the.

1421
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 1: Person he was getting all with, whoever rides with.

1422
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 6: Him, you can't like, why are you not checking that comedian?

1423
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 6: That's what that that's law means. It means you need

1424
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 6: to buy about the cold when.

1425
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 1: Very curious how that was received because it was a

1426
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 1: very fair question.

1427
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.

1428
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 2: Well we have got from the chat that as much

1429
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 2: as everyone is happy to see but many and hopes

1430
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 2: he comes on more.

1431
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 3: That Shola is the MVP of the pod today.

1432
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, said Boyd. I've been staring at his head like damn,

1433
01:04:56,520 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 4: ain't a nickname. You know what I'm saying? That would like, Yeah,

1434
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 4: I was chilling, chilling, and I was worried because like.

1435
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 3: Get good rants off, you know.

1436
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, I'm about this motherfucker yelling

1437
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 7: to it. I broke a little sweat for a second, nigga,

1438
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 7: you know what I mean. This is a new hat

1439
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 7: nigga almost sweating my ship out. God damn you feel me?

1440
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 7: But anyway, yeah, but yeah, thank you sho he sleep

1441
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 7: still sleep, Jackson.

1442
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 3: Do we have anything else for the chat?

1443
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 5: Let's talk G and X bro. That was the main

1444
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 5: reason about So, so what's interesting about gn X is

1445
01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 5: I am in like, don't love with gn X.

1446
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 4: Okay, so let's let's talk about it.

1447
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 1: Okay. So I I tried my best to listen in

1448
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 1: a lot of different places and spaces, right and I

1449
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 1: live in New York, so I don't have a car,

1450
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 1: so that kind of affects this. But I had multiple

1451
01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 1: people call me and be like, oh, this bad boy

1452
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 1: was mixed with a car. I played this in my

1453
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 1: house with my ridiculously expensive sound system for lex and man,

1454
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 1: it sounds amazing, like like like that the flex was

1455
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 1: really dermane to the point they just how it is

1456
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 1: a very West Coast album, right, like very robotic funk

1457
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:12,959
Speaker 1: like it's it's a regional album. At least it feels

1458
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 1: like here at a time where people don't make regional albums.

1459
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 5: I think that's really cool.

1460
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 1: Again, as I told you, I don't really like the

1461
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 1: coder ring rap, and so I refused to do that, right.

1462
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 5: I appreciated that I didn't need to do that to

1463
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 5: enjoy this.

1464
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 1: I thought that he came pretty straightforward with everything that

1465
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 1: he was saying, and it was there.

1466
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 5: There were little buddies he brought in from l A.

1467
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 4: I loved him. I thought they stole the show, Nigga

1468
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 4: Hey in certain songs, I'm I'm like, uh, what's the joint? Hey?

1469
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 4: Now say now?

1470
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:47,920
Speaker 7: Hey, I can't wait ship, I can't wait till Dorty

1471
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 7: doty verse, what's the lefty lefty gun play?

1472
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 4: He just had that little shit, but I needed it.

1473
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 4: I needed it crazy, go play with.

1474
01:06:58,600 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 5: Three games, lass mame.

1475
01:06:59,640 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 4: I love it.

1476
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:00,400
Speaker 8: It is.

1477
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 4: Off head off here.

1478
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 1: I thought I thought they was cool, right, I thought

1479
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 1: they was cool, But I think they're probably for me.

1480
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 1: Like I love Squabble, I really like like whacked out

1481
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 1: urt Mules is a great song to start with. I

1482
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,840
Speaker 1: like Squabble up a lot. I could do without the

1483
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 1: Luther Bad Joe's joint. You know, I see Man in

1484
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 1: the Garden, Man of the Garden, I rock with Reincarnated.

1485
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:26,440
Speaker 1: Is it's too Dacota. It's a little too decoterie Dakota

1486
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 1: rap for me. I mean, there appears to be a

1487
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 1: verse about John Lee Hooker. Nobody asked for that, just

1488
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 1: me Tupac. I don't need I don't need to be

1489
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 1: he w was the woman he's talking about? Citi in

1490
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:41,720
Speaker 1: the second verse, who was the woman he's talking about?

1491
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 1: Thought because an overdose and was probably I thought it

1492
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 1: was billy like TV office nuts. I really like peokaboo

1493
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 1: Uhi Gloria, I thought, like Gloria just took I I used.

1494
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 4: To love her.

1495
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:58,880
Speaker 1: It just rendered it completely and totally absolutely like we

1496
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 1: don't we don't need that song anymore. Gloria has replaced

1497
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 1: that for your I love hip hop metaphor, like that's yeah,

1498
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 1: we we don't.

1499
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 5: We don't need that.

1500
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 1: But for what it is, I thought it went and

1501
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 1: it felt good, right like I often feel like Kendrick.

1502
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:16,880
Speaker 1: It's not a really good time listening to Kendrick. It's

1503
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 1: just he doesn't make fun music, doesn't he doesn't.

1504
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 7: Damn was fun. Section eighty was fun. Good, cat Mass

1505
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 7: City was good. But it hurt my soul to listen

1506
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 7: to you know what I'm saying, Uh, Butterfly, he was depressed. Yeah,

1507
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 7: you know you said what damn is not? Fundamn? Damn

1508
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 7: to me is fun. I thought I love Damn.

1509
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 4: I thought that was not.

1510
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:40,639
Speaker 1: I think it had tracks that bang. But the mastically

1511
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 1: it's very you know, I gotta say, Kendrick sound like

1512
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:45,560
Speaker 1: he went to a church. It ain't got windows, you

1513
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 1: know what I mean?

1514
01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:46,680
Speaker 2: Like he just.

1515
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:50,599
Speaker 3: Progic brother, he was at the cot.

1516
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 5: The woman.

1517
01:08:56,160 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 1: No, we we make all the music ourself, right, but no,

1518
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 1: But I dug it, And I think the quality that

1519
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:09,760
Speaker 1: stands out to me on it is he seems very

1520
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:14,040
Speaker 1: aware of his own importance, Like there is a gravity

1521
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 1: and authority in his voice, like when Whacked Out murrals.

1522
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 1: He is speaking like a man who knows everybody wants

1523
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 1: to hear what he has to say, not just I'm

1524
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 1: the coldest dude in the world, but like, hey, people

1525
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 1: have been wondering what I think about this stuff, and

1526
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:31,720
Speaker 1: I got them right here, directly in front of me.

1527
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 1: So it almost has like a poetry slam kind of feel.

1528
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:35,560
Speaker 1: And I don't mean that as an insult, but I

1529
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 1: mean that with the intimacy with which he has this

1530
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 1: because he knows that he has pulled everybody. Like the

1531
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:44,479
Speaker 1: trick of doing this right is you either make yourself

1532
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 1: loud so you can reach the people in the back,

1533
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:48,679
Speaker 1: or the ones that are real beast are the ones

1534
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 1: that could bring the audience right there to your face

1535
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 1: and you could talk to him in that level tone

1536
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 1: and they directly in front of you. And I think

1537
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:56,680
Speaker 1: that he was approaching it with the confidence of a

1538
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 1: man who knows that everybody is right here in front

1539
01:09:59,320 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 1: of him.

1540
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:05,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I think that this battle. Okay, I'm

1541
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:05,800
Speaker 5: for one.

1542
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:08,720
Speaker 6: I'm firmly on the side on the you can call

1543
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:10,680
Speaker 6: it conspiracy theory side or wherever that there's some more.

1544
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:12,599
Speaker 5: There's another album coming, you know for all.

1545
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 2: The absolutely no question. Yeah, he did drop a visual

1546
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:19,360
Speaker 2: which was one of your guys's main arguments for.

1547
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, a vinyl two yeah bro, the visual.

1548
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 6: That he dropped to the promo. Gn X has a

1549
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:30,639
Speaker 6: song that's not on the album. There's there's another old

1550
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 6: school in that besides the GNX. It looks like a

1551
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:35,479
Speaker 6: capriest maybe. And of course, you know, like like I mentioned,

1552
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:37,679
Speaker 6: like like I mentioned Heart six, he never puts hearts

1553
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:40,560
Speaker 6: the hearts on his albums, right so. But and a

1554
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 6: big reason why I think that we have another album

1555
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 6: coming is because it feels like with every album Kendrick dropped,

1556
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 6: he had something to say, and I don't feel like

1557
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 6: he necessarily has something to say on this album. This

1558
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 6: album was him just a certain I'm really that motherfucker

1559
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 6: in case y'all forgot, you know what I mean, That's

1560
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 6: what it felt. It felt like he was empty and

1561
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 6: the clip on that before he really locked in and

1562
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:00,200
Speaker 6: went and went, you know, studio album.

1563
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:02,759
Speaker 3: Which is more fun than Dakoda ring albums.

1564
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 4: I mean, his last album was like that was made

1565
01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 4: for the moment.

1566
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 5: I respected it.

1567
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:13,599
Speaker 4: I thought it was good, but it was more art

1568
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 4: than you know, than like than you know it was.

1569
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 7: It was made with a focus on art, you know

1570
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 7: what I mean like I wasn't necessarily supposed to have

1571
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:21,840
Speaker 7: fun listening to that, you know what I mean? But

1572
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:24,160
Speaker 7: this one, this one is Section eighty are the two

1573
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 7: fun fun albums, And I haven't felt like this listen

1574
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 7: kids album since Section eight.

1575
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 4: But go ahead.

1576
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 1: We know that there is going to be an album

1577
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 1: because Kendrick Lamar isn't stupid. He's about to do the

1578
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:44,960
Speaker 1: super Bowl. Now, did Rihanna do an album coming off

1579
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:45,599
Speaker 1: the super Bowl?

1580
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 5: No, because she's never gonna do another album. She's still draws.

1581
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 1: There's no way in the world that they start in

1582
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:55,720
Speaker 1: this whole new company and have the biggest stays that

1583
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:58,599
Speaker 1: the world could ever provide. Like like I said, he said,

1584
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 1: I said he ain't cared that much about the money

1585
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:03,040
Speaker 1: of on all this other stuff. I ain't saying that

1586
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 1: he turned into a comedy. No, no, no, there's there's

1587
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:08,600
Speaker 1: gonna be.

1588
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 3: The money making opportunity.

1589
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:11,840
Speaker 1: It's not Comrad Kenny out here.

1590
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 5: There's not yet.

1591
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 1: Announce they gonna Drake does stress this out. He's gonna

1592
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 1: announce a tour probably after that super Bowl, and they

1593
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 1: gonna be dancing on his head for nine months all

1594
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 1: around the world.

1595
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:28,680
Speaker 3: Hod O Elemundo.

1596
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 6: That's That's also another reason I believe the album's coming because,

1597
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 6: like you said, if you've got eyes on you during

1598
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 6: the super Bowl as an as a musician, you better

1599
01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:38,759
Speaker 6: drop some new music, like like you are leaving millions

1600
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 6: on the table if you don't. Like we saw last year,

1601
01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 6: Beyonce dropped after Ushers just because she was going to

1602
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 6: be in the conversation with that man, like we were

1603
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:47,439
Speaker 6: gonna see that Usher show and be like Usher and

1604
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:49,559
Speaker 6: Beyonce Last of a Dime Breed, it's just those two

1605
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 6: and besd was like, yup, y'all are gonna be talk

1606
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 6: about me, here's the album.

1607
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 5: Let me cash out here too, you know what I mean.

1608
01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 6: So so yeah, But back to what you were saying

1609
01:12:56,320 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 6: about how it feels like and is someone who embraces

1610
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 6: how much he means it's it's something. It feels like

1611
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:08,000
Speaker 6: it's because if you look at like, if you look

1612
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:10,439
Speaker 6: at the trajectory of his albums, he's battling with savor

1613
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:12,880
Speaker 6: complex on so many of those, yep, And it feels

1614
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 6: like on mister Morales when he said, yo, y'all can

1615
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:16,720
Speaker 6: have that shit. I'm never trying to do that shit again.

1616
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 6: And it looks like the ship. That aspirational shit he's

1617
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 6: on right now, isn't prosperity gospel. If you hustle as

1618
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:23,160
Speaker 6: hard as me, you can have what I have.

1619
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:23,680
Speaker 5: It's bro.

1620
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 6: Just be yourself, bro, Just be genuine, Just be loyal

1621
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:30,320
Speaker 6: to the roofs that you came from, and shit'll you

1622
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 6: know work out.

1623
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:32,680
Speaker 4: For you that what that comes with that?

1624
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:33,880
Speaker 5: You know what I mean? Yeah?

1625
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:37,599
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I think the battle of making the battle

1626
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 2: into authenticity versus artifice to get a little decoder it

1627
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:43,640
Speaker 2: that was the smartest shit he possibly did, because, like

1628
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 2: y'all said, it took away every every punch Drake had

1629
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 2: the ability to throw. And I I BO brought up

1630
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 2: an interesting point on Twitter and earlier about when did

1631
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 2: numbers come into the conversation so heavily, because that is

1632
01:13:57,360 --> 01:14:01,919
Speaker 2: the easiest, most artificial shit out there, right, which ironically

1633
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 2: is what Drake's lawsuit is attempting to prove.

1634
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 3: Is like, oh, the numbers actually don't mean that much.

1635
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 2: I'm curious. I'm curious for y'all's take on that. When

1636
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 2: do you think that became such a big part of

1637
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 2: the conversation, right, I would go, I would go a

1638
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 2: little earlier to eminem bro.

1639
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 4: I actually think that that was Eminem wasn't go ahead.

1640
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 1: I think that like the inflection point where this starts

1641
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:28,720
Speaker 1: going upward is really around like ninety seven, when you

1642
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:31,559
Speaker 1: get no limit, where quite honestly, them dudes is making

1643
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 1: so much money that people kind of felt like they

1644
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:36,320
Speaker 1: had to respect it, and so they started making the

1645
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 1: cover of the source and all of this stuff, and

1646
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 1: you know, you say something about how master pk Rap

1647
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:43,439
Speaker 1: master P got all this money right, and now everybody

1648
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:46,720
Speaker 1: cats are doing songs with them that before, when this

1649
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:48,640
Speaker 1: whole thing was based on how good you're supposed to be,

1650
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:50,720
Speaker 1: you rocking with that right. So then I'm like, I

1651
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:55,720
Speaker 1: feel like the CEO entrepreneur era of rap kind of

1652
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:58,559
Speaker 1: builds up to it. I think people in talking more

1653
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:00,439
Speaker 1: with people about it, I think they write make the

1654
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:03,479
Speaker 1: point it really crested with two thousand and seven Graduation

1655
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:06,840
Speaker 1: versus Curtis, and it really became a battle about who

1656
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:09,160
Speaker 1: could sell more, and that is the way that people

1657
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 1: got behind their faults. And then after that it gets

1658
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:14,639
Speaker 1: you to the streaming era, where there's a whole different

1659
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:17,240
Speaker 1: level of data that's available and that everybody can look

1660
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 1: at on any given day right that you could go

1661
01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 1: to the Drake page. You can see how many millions

1662
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 1: of people have streamed this?

1663
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:22,880
Speaker 5: How many you know?

1664
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 1: And Kendrick, you know, you could go do all of that.

1665
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 1: Like I got a buddy who had a track that

1666
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:29,080
Speaker 1: got streamed a billion times. He said he made like

1667
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:32,080
Speaker 1: fifteen dollars off of that, but he had a track

1668
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 1: that stream like are literally a billion times? Right, And

1669
01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:39,560
Speaker 1: so I think that's really when it got there. I

1670
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:42,639
Speaker 1: just can't imagine how you feel about my favorite rapper.

1671
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:45,519
Speaker 1: Ain't got nothing to do with me, Like Anderson Pok

1672
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 1: is my dude, that's my favorite person working today.

1673
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 5: I got no idea how much. But he sold on anything.

1674
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 4: No true, Yeah, everythink he touches fot Oh you know

1675
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:55,559
Speaker 4: that you feel what I'm saying, yep.

1676
01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 6: I think there's a pretty extensive history of rap fans

1677
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 6: caring about numbers and rappers themselves caring about And I

1678
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 6: was like, we heard motherfucking you know EPMD. Thirty days

1679
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:07,200
Speaker 6: later the LP would go to what you're saying, you

1680
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:08,880
Speaker 6: know what I mean? Like that was fucking eighty eight.

1681
01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 6: But I think when the conversation shifted with rap fans

1682
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:16,000
Speaker 6: where a lot of them went on the angle of

1683
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:19,599
Speaker 6: most numbers means the best rapper. I think that happened

1684
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 6: with Drake because I think that, you know, like I said,

1685
01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:24,559
Speaker 6: Drake had a fifteen year run as the top guy

1686
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 6: in the game, regardless of how you fill bottom, regardless

1687
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 6: of if he's you don't think he was the best

1688
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:32,200
Speaker 6: during that era. He was the top guy during his era,

1689
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 6: right Like he was the most sought out after feature.

1690
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:35,719
Speaker 6: He was the dude was gonna do the most numbers

1691
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 6: whenever he dropped. He was the top guy. And when

1692
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:43,680
Speaker 6: we were coming up, you didn't need to do the

1693
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 6: most numbers to be the top guy. Like like in

1694
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:49,400
Speaker 6: two thousand, fucking Nelly did four million country Grammar, Jay

1695
01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:51,719
Speaker 6: Z did a million with the Dying with with Volume.

1696
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 6: Three of us were like, oh, Nelly took the crown

1697
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 6: from j You know what I'm saying, Like like, like,

1698
01:16:56,640 --> 01:17:00,080
Speaker 6: Jay's not the top guys. It is, though, but but

1699
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:01,320
Speaker 6: I'm sure I'm sure Saint Louis.

1700
01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 3: Yet let's be fair.

1701
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:07,240
Speaker 5: Let's be fair to Jay here.

1702
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 1: I think Jay actually sold like three million with that record,

1703
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:13,519
Speaker 1: But your point is still correct that Nelly was not

1704
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 1: gonna sell his way even with Jay was like all

1705
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 1: the dudes moving units M Pimp Juice and us.

1706
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 5: We wasn't really thinking too much about the pimp Juice fellow.

1707
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:22,880
Speaker 11: Like we we were like, you know, good for you.

1708
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:25,720
Speaker 11: You know, I like I say, I like, I like

1709
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 11: Nellie with the melodese right, like making me dance. He's

1710
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:32,320
Speaker 11: making me way in my head. We did that with Delly, right.

1711
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 1: But I actually think though, it's fun to try to

1712
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:39,240
Speaker 1: pinpoint when Drake became number one, because I've been saying

1713
01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 1: that fifteen year thing too, But in twenty ten, he

1714
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:44,960
Speaker 1: was not bigger than Kanye West, right, Like, nothing Drake

1715
01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:47,559
Speaker 1: did was as big as my beautiful, dark, twisted fantasy.

1716
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1717
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:51,000
Speaker 1: Even in twenty thirteen when Jesus came out to me,

1718
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 1: it was a bit of a flop. But nothing Drake

1719
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:56,479
Speaker 1: was doing hit the world with the impact of Yeesus

1720
01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 1: or even even life of Pablo. I.

1721
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:01,760
Speaker 6: I would say this, there's also a bit of a

1722
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:03,920
Speaker 6: bit of promotion in artistry that Yea put into a

1723
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:05,640
Speaker 6: shit that Drake didn't, you know what I mean?

1724
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 5: That kind of made bigger deals fir, I would.

1725
01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 7: Say in two thousand or nine, I remember being in

1726
01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:12,120
Speaker 7: the being in the gym, working with my buddy Jabbar

1727
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 7: working out, and it was like for a twenty minute

1728
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:20,640
Speaker 7: period was listening to the radio, there wasn't more than

1729
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:22,880
Speaker 7: one song that was played with at Drake like it

1730
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:26,480
Speaker 7: was at least every other song, like he had encapsulated

1731
01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:29,519
Speaker 7: the like general music in ways it was either he

1732
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:30,719
Speaker 7: was his song or feature.

1733
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:32,680
Speaker 4: He was on everything. You know what I'm saying. So

1734
01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:35,400
Speaker 4: I feel like, I mean, I remember Jays saying men

1735
01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 4: line women line. Numbers don't. That's a lie because numbers

1736
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:40,080
Speaker 4: can be manipulated, my niggas. You know what I'm saying.

1737
01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:42,439
Speaker 4: Numbers lie all the fucking time. You feel what I'm saying.

1738
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:46,839
Speaker 7: But I do feel when fans started talking about numbers

1739
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 7: was during Drake because they were trying to prove some

1740
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 7: to us that we didn't see with our eyes.

1741
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:52,800
Speaker 5: You know what I mean.

1742
01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:54,639
Speaker 4: It's kind of like analytics with basketball, Well.

1743
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:58,799
Speaker 7: So and so the the Lebron analytical of the raptor analytics, Well, nigga,

1744
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 7: I'm looking at the and I'm seeing this, and you

1745
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:01,680
Speaker 7: know what I mean.

1746
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:03,679
Speaker 4: So I feel like they were doing that type of shit.

1747
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:06,479
Speaker 7: Numbers do matter to a degree, you feel me, but

1748
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 7: not to the degree in which people were making the

1749
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:11,479
Speaker 7: matter when they're talking about Drake being the goat, and

1750
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:14,920
Speaker 7: you know, we see that now, we see that there's

1751
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 7: niggas out there. Like you know, Kendrick can't even chasing numbers.

1752
01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:20,000
Speaker 7: He's chasing something totally different, you.

1753
01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:22,640
Speaker 4: Feel me, and and he proved with not like us.

1754
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:24,720
Speaker 7: If I wanted to, I could take your shit. I'm

1755
01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:26,360
Speaker 7: just not on that type of shit. You feel what

1756
01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 7: I'm saying. So numbers don't matter, and they never mattered.

1757
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:31,519
Speaker 7: When you're talking to me about shit, you start talking numbers,

1758
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:34,760
Speaker 7: I might walk away my at least my brain's gonna

1759
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:37,559
Speaker 7: my eyes gonna fucking glaze over, and I'm not gonna

1760
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 7: pay attention with the fuck coming out of your mouth.

1761
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:42,439
Speaker 7: We ain't talking math, be talking art, bitch, you know

1762
01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:45,840
Speaker 7: what I'm saying. We were approaching it totally different, right

1763
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:46,240
Speaker 7: Like for.

1764
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 1: Me, I still believe to this day to karras One

1765
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:51,720
Speaker 1: is the best MC of all time. Now my rationale

1766
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 1: behind this is something that is completely divorced.

1767
01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:56,600
Speaker 5: I don't want to say you're a traditionalist.

1768
01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:58,720
Speaker 4: Say it again, are you a traditionalist?

1769
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:02,519
Speaker 1: It's not much about being traditionalist, but like I have

1770
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:04,800
Speaker 1: not really adapted the way that I look at this

1771
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:06,479
Speaker 1: or like what like the like if I had to

1772
01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:08,760
Speaker 1: answer one question, like one core metric of it, right,

1773
01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 1: And so I'm kind of, I don't want to say,

1774
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:13,679
Speaker 1: separated from the commercialism of it, but I think it's easy.

1775
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:16,640
Speaker 1: Like with jay Z, you start talking about the whole career, right,

1776
01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 1: and he's talking about, oh, he did this, he did

1777
01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 1: this or whatever. But if you lined up every rapper

1778
01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:24,360
Speaker 1: that's ever been against the wall, and all you got

1779
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:27,120
Speaker 1: is you. You ain't got no beat, you ain't got

1780
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:28,880
Speaker 1: no pencil to make the beat, you ain't got no

1781
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:32,800
Speaker 1: DJ behind you. It is on you to captivate me

1782
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 1: and move me and hold my attention. KRS one and

1783
01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:40,639
Speaker 1: that big old boxing glove on his face will stand

1784
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 1: up and have twenty thousand people in the palm of

1785
01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:46,799
Speaker 1: his hand with nothing but himself.

1786
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 5: You know what I mean.

1787
01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:54,120
Speaker 7: Oh God that knows catch a fastball, nigga, that knows

1788
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:55,880
Speaker 7: could catch a fastball nigga.

1789
01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:57,640
Speaker 4: But yeah, me and the.

1790
01:20:57,640 --> 01:21:01,320
Speaker 6: Homies caught karens One at at some like outdoor festival

1791
01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:03,800
Speaker 6: a few summers back, and he was just freestyle to

1792
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:08,240
Speaker 6: your point, but still freestyling this day, freestyling with no beat,

1793
01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:10,800
Speaker 6: and there was a bridge behind him. Like I said,

1794
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:12,640
Speaker 6: we were outside right open air venue. There was a

1795
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:15,240
Speaker 6: bridge behind him where a train started going by. And

1796
01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 6: on God, hand to God, I'm not lying. He was

1797
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:20,000
Speaker 6: freestyling and then he said, a yo train, blow your horn.

1798
01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:24,760
Speaker 6: The motherfucker blew the horn. I promise you never seen

1799
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:25,400
Speaker 6: no shit like that.

1800
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:27,920
Speaker 4: Right in touch with the universe.

1801
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:31,160
Speaker 1: And I don't know how many records any of that stuff,

1802
01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 1: episode or whatever it is, Like I can make points

1803
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 1: about the fact like he is the he is the

1804
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 1: blueprint for like the righteous gangster, right, like all these

1805
01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:41,280
Speaker 1: different phases like Cat's like killing Mike, for example, there's

1806
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 1: a straight line from Krris one to him. There's a

1807
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 1: whole bunch of rappers that people don't think about it anymore.

1808
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:47,160
Speaker 1: There's like straight lines like rock Kim can be your guy,

1809
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:49,000
Speaker 1: Your argument for jay Z can be there, your argument

1810
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:50,840
Speaker 1: for pot can be there, all of those things. But

1811
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:53,200
Speaker 1: for me, it really ain't got nothing to do with

1812
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:55,680
Speaker 1: how many records nobody sold. Like that's not how I

1813
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:58,200
Speaker 1: developed my opinion. To me that it is the thought

1814
01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:00,760
Speaker 1: process of people who are not capable of independent thought

1815
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:04,640
Speaker 1: and need somebody else's justification to have the opinion that

1816
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 1: you got.

1817
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 5: You can say your favorite rapper of all time was Redman.

1818
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 1: You got an argument for it if that's who you.

1819
01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:10,479
Speaker 4: Think Red Man is.

1820
01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:16,040
Speaker 1: Literally Britman got busy, right. But the cases that people make,

1821
01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:18,080
Speaker 1: at least when I hear people talk about it now,

1822
01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:22,479
Speaker 1: are using rubrics that won't work to make the case

1823
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:23,639
Speaker 1: for somebody like him.

1824
01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:27,479
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's crazy, that's crazy you say that. Gee,

1825
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 7: Like I remember my one of my old g uncles,

1826
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:32,800
Speaker 7: like he always will talking about like this was like

1827
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:35,040
Speaker 7: when UGK was creat It's the nineties nigga, you know,

1828
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:37,759
Speaker 7: like this when music was fucking music.

1829
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

1830
01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:40,679
Speaker 7: And I know that's some old ass nigga shit to say,

1831
01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:43,960
Speaker 7: but it was just cooler than it's different, just different.

1832
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:44,719
Speaker 5: It was different.

1833
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:47,160
Speaker 7: And he was saying, you need to tap in with

1834
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:51,200
Speaker 7: this KRS one and and also them same type niggas

1835
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 7: was you ain't got no Scarface, you know what I'm saying,

1836
01:22:55,439 --> 01:22:57,920
Speaker 7: Those are the two niggas. If you that I know,

1837
01:22:58,040 --> 01:23:01,160
Speaker 7: you really really bout this shit. If you ask about

1838
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:04,680
Speaker 7: KRS one and you asking about Scarface, oh, let me

1839
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 7: shut the fucked up and listen to what you got

1840
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:09,040
Speaker 7: going on, and niggas don't really know that. And Redman's

1841
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:10,640
Speaker 7: one of them too. Redman is up there too. You

1842
01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 7: can talk about Red Man. Okay, I'm gonna listen to you.

1843
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:15,120
Speaker 1: Fel D was selling millions of copies, telling these white

1844
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:17,720
Speaker 1: people today was going down if they ain't get they

1845
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:21,679
Speaker 1: shit right, millions of copies, and they got an argument

1846
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:24,040
Speaker 1: for the best album of the eighties and the best

1847
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:26,560
Speaker 1: album of the nineties. Prior to The Night, prior to

1848
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:28,479
Speaker 1: the mid nineteen nineties, prior to Big and Pot, the

1849
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 1: consensus pick for the greatest rap album of all time

1850
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:33,120
Speaker 1: was it takes the nation of millions to hold us back.

1851
01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:36,280
Speaker 1: You don't hear anybody say that anymore, because it's like

1852
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:39,880
Speaker 1: the whole discussion starts with the nineteen nineties. I saw

1853
01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:43,000
Speaker 1: Chuck D the Roots do a jam session every year

1854
01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:44,679
Speaker 1: before the Grammys, right, it's had a bunch of people

1855
01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:47,800
Speaker 1: fall through, do a track or two. Chug D showed

1856
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:49,680
Speaker 1: up for that bad Boy and I had never seen

1857
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:52,040
Speaker 1: public again to be live, and I was listening to

1858
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:55,080
Speaker 1: him do Rebel without a pause. I'm not saying chug

1859
01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 1: D's the greatest rapper of all time. But I'm telling you,

1860
01:23:57,280 --> 01:23:59,160
Speaker 1: ain't nobody better at rapping than chug d. That was

1861
01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:01,560
Speaker 1: how I filmed from being there and hearing him in

1862
01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:05,679
Speaker 1: that moment to explain, Yeah.

1863
01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:08,040
Speaker 5: He gets my vote for the greatest voice in rap

1864
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:09,320
Speaker 5: history Top two.

1865
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:10,240
Speaker 4: He is.

1866
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 6: He is like rap Marv Albert to me, like, bro,

1867
01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:17,240
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. It feels like he's calling

1868
01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:20,280
Speaker 6: games when he raps, Like that's how good this is

1869
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:24,080
Speaker 6: once again back it's the incredible.

1870
01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:29,280
Speaker 1: Albert Dog you know, dude, that whole song to me,

1871
01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 1: that's like a top five all time, like Buzzo Bagdad

1872
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:34,559
Speaker 1: is my number one, Taro Dome is my number two.

1873
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:36,840
Speaker 1: At every point, it's just like, hey man, I think

1874
01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:39,000
Speaker 1: y'all need to listen to him, like when he he

1875
01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:42,080
Speaker 1: raps like somebody you're supposed to listen to mm hm.

1876
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:45,439
Speaker 7: And you're saying, Kendrick's kind of arr like that how

1877
01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:47,439
Speaker 7: he's been rapping out like somebody that niggas need to hear.

1878
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 1: He's starting to have that that gravity is there, right,

1879
01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:53,240
Speaker 1: and that's why I like, that's why I like this record.

1880
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:55,040
Speaker 5: To me, it feels like stripping away like you talking

1881
01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 5: about ain't no double entendre.

1882
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, we don't need all of that. Man, I

1883
01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:00,240
Speaker 1: don't need you to put together some kind of puzzle. Okay,

1884
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 1: this all adds up to forty four or some shit

1885
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah whatever, man, we don't need that.

1886
01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:04,559
Speaker 5: Strip that down.

1887
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:06,920
Speaker 1: And I felt like more than ever on this album,

1888
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:10,439
Speaker 1: it's him standing on his two being like me and

1889
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:12,519
Speaker 1: my loathsome that's what matters here.

1890
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 5: I'm doing some local jokers in here, I think.

1891
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:20,519
Speaker 7: She Oh, go ahead, John, No, no, no, I'm just saying, like,

1892
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:22,560
Speaker 7: this is what Kendrick shit I said. I call it

1893
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:25,920
Speaker 7: toxic Kendrick, but it's really not necessarily toxic Kendrick. It's

1894
01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:29,240
Speaker 7: Kendrick like KRS one. I'm standing on my motherfucking nuts.

1895
01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:31,040
Speaker 7: This what the fuck I'm on?

1896
01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:32,080
Speaker 5: This is me.

1897
01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:35,640
Speaker 7: This ain't no cute shit. I'm not trying to do art.

1898
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:38,559
Speaker 7: I'm giving you me, Nigga, you know what I'm saying.

1899
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:39,640
Speaker 4: And I love that.

1900
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:42,639
Speaker 7: I love that, and I'm telling you too, I am him.

1901
01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 7: I'm not trying to like pretend none of that shit.

1902
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:48,320
Speaker 7: I am who you think, oh I say I am,

1903
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:49,360
Speaker 7: And he's standing on that shit.

1904
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:50,200
Speaker 4: I love that. I love that.

1905
01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:52,720
Speaker 7: I like when a Nigga is letting you know who

1906
01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:55,040
Speaker 7: the fuck he really is. You know what I'm saying,

1907
01:25:55,040 --> 01:25:58,479
Speaker 7: don't let nobody play with your name, bitch. That's standing

1908
01:25:58,600 --> 01:26:01,439
Speaker 7: on some shit. You feel me like, I love that

1909
01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:04,200
Speaker 7: type of rap. That's where we came from, and that's

1910
01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:06,200
Speaker 7: what kend your kind of stand on with this album

1911
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:07,920
Speaker 7: in particular, that's where you're at with it.

1912
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:10,559
Speaker 4: It's beautiful. It's beautiful to see we ain't losing all

1913
01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:11,960
Speaker 4: the recipes. You feel what I'm saying.

1914
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:14,800
Speaker 5: You feel on somebody ass on Twitter? How come Drake

1915
01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:16,840
Speaker 5: can't see that dude that pp on him? You remember

1916
01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:22,000
Speaker 5: that time somebody bro bro that's not even Urban mentioned.

1917
01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:24,880
Speaker 5: There is footage of t I talking about it like.

1918
01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:31,760
Speaker 4: There is a confirmation. What did t I say?

1919
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:35,960
Speaker 5: What do you saying? Yo?

1920
01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:40,120
Speaker 1: Your t I your microphone just to allow your t

1921
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:43,160
Speaker 1: I like it takes you to That's why he does

1922
01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:44,400
Speaker 1: not respect.

1923
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:51,519
Speaker 5: That's um G man, call along called along.

1924
01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:56,720
Speaker 1: I think just imagine Drake being out with t I

1925
01:26:56,920 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 1: in his West Side friends and Drake WI walk out

1926
01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:01,600
Speaker 1: and then he walked back in.

1927
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:06,120
Speaker 5: He won't give a secure It is like right here, he's.

1928
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:07,479
Speaker 4: The one on me.

1929
01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:11,680
Speaker 5: Matt Boney I believe he's called. And that's the thing.

1930
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:14,560
Speaker 7: That's that's how you know he weird, Because if you

1931
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:18,080
Speaker 7: pee on a nigga, you gotta at least beat my ass.

1932
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:21,040
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like, Bro, if you peel

1933
01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:24,879
Speaker 4: like Bro, you peeing in gotail nigga, you gonna.

1934
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:28,320
Speaker 1: Have to beat my ass, Bro, or you leird. I

1935
01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:29,679
Speaker 1: got no evidence that he left.

1936
01:27:32,439 --> 01:27:35,080
Speaker 5: I think we're just sitting there with a urine soap booth,

1937
01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:36,080
Speaker 5: just still enjoying.

1938
01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:39,679
Speaker 4: The going to tail somebody going to tail nigga?

1939
01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:40,320
Speaker 5: Fuck you mean?

1940
01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:42,400
Speaker 3: I think you guys were talking.

1941
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:44,120
Speaker 2: I think this came up the last time bo Is

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Speaker 2: on too, just about how different music in the world

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Speaker 2: was in the nineties. But I do think that's part

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Speaker 2: of what is so great about GNX to me, is

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Speaker 2: doing something like that now.

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Speaker 3: It feels like it means more to.

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Speaker 2: Me because we haven't had a monoculture moment in music

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Speaker 2: that I like in a long time, and there aren't

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Speaker 2: a lot of people out there, to John's point, standing

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Speaker 2: on their own two feet saying this is me. There's

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Speaker 2: no roll out, there's no whatever else. I feel like

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't say the degree of difficulty is higher than

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Speaker 2: it was in ninety two. It's still a you know,

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Speaker 2: a guy and a microphone, but it does feel like

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Speaker 2: I didn't know that we would ever have a music

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Speaker 2: moment like this again, Like I didn't have a lot

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Speaker 2: of faith that something like this would happen with someone

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Speaker 2: specifically standing on the type of authenticity that Kendrick is.

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Speaker 2: So that's my That's That's been the biggest thing to

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Speaker 2: me that I've enjoyed about this album. It's just and

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Speaker 2: from not like us and everything else.

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Speaker 7: As well, how it engulfed everything right, Like I was

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Speaker 7: running a track with Tyler Times. Tyler Times put up

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Speaker 7: told me about it, then I'll play it. I'm calling,

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Speaker 7: I'm calling age or agent. Already got that motherfucker own.

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Speaker 7: I go to my Instagram. Everybody's posting that, bitch. We

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Speaker 7: are all enjoying it together. You know what I'm saying

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Speaker 7: in ways that we just haven't before. And I said this, bro, like,

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Speaker 7: you know what I mean, I don't necessarily need nothing

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Speaker 7: before twenty twenty five. I'm here with it, you know

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Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying, Like, Bro, Like I'm cool,

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Speaker 7: I'm busy, I'm here with it. You know what I'm

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Speaker 7: saying this album feels like it's connected to me in

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Speaker 7: ways like when I was just shorty.

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean. I want to sit with

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Speaker 4: this motherfucker. It feels a particular way. Gee, you know

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Speaker 4: what I mean?

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, Bo, we appreciate you hopping on.

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Speaker 5: Obviously.

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Speaker 3: Everyone knows they can find bow everywhere, and you confess.

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Speaker 1: That you know that the right time with Bobody Joan

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Speaker 1: does on YouTube. We can't be out here at you

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Speaker 1: like getting arrogant.

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Speaker 4: It's not an you know they say about assuming.

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Speaker 1: Joe check us out O M A M I for

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Speaker 1: sure and everywhere else. Everybody you think I'm just doing

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Speaker 1: this to be nice.

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Speaker 5: That man legal action, a sue guard. Part of me,

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Speaker 5: part of me, part of me. Please?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 2: If you're listening on the YouTube, I know we got

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Speaker 2: a good YouTube crowd to day. Subscribe to Jenison Jones

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Speaker 2: as well YouTube. If you listen to this on the

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Speaker 2: podcast YouTube dot com slash at Jingus and Jones, you

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Speaker 2: could have been hanging out with us in.

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Speaker 3: The chat and on YouTube. Bo, thank you so much

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Speaker 3: for joining me.

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Speaker 1: No, I appreciate it absolutely, and the chat room says

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Speaker 1: that he did in effect storm out after he was

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Speaker 1: peed upon.

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Speaker 5: Oh that's ours. Yeah man, you didn't. You didn't just

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Speaker 5: finish out the movie noted are we were done?

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Speaker 4: We were still long? Are we still long to get

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Speaker 4: the get the by?

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Speaker 5: Don't we need?

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Speaker 4: Oh man, Josh waiting for the bike?

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Speaker 7: My man.

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Speaker 4: We was tweaking, were tweaking

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Speaker 6: The volume