WEBVTT - Pirates heat up heading into the All-Star Break

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<v Speaker 1>What's up, everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to another episode of Bucko Territory, presented to

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<v Speaker 2>you by the Foul Territory Network.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Nola Hyle's joining me as always are my co hosts.

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<v Speaker 2>Josh Harrison and Platinum Key aka Mark. We're coming to

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<v Speaker 2>you on Monday, July thirteenth. It is the All Star

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<v Speaker 2>Break and your Buckos are headed into the break red

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<v Speaker 2>hot off of a sweep over the first place Milwaukee Brewers.

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<v Speaker 1>Paul Skens capped off.

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<v Speaker 2>That sweep with his second straight win in as many starts.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna talk about both of those things, and then

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<v Speaker 2>we will round out the show as always on Mondays

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<v Speaker 2>with Platinum Keys Key of the Week. Fellas. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>these Buckos, they're.

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<v Speaker 1>Doing it again.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels like this is what they do around the

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<v Speaker 2>All Star Break. I remember in twenty twenty four they

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<v Speaker 2>went to Chicago. They swept the White Sox in a

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<v Speaker 2>four game series to get to five hundred. They kept

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<v Speaker 2>that momentum going in after the All Show break. There

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<v Speaker 2>were buyers at the deadline we talked about on the

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<v Speaker 2>last show. In twenty eighteen, they swept the Milwaukee Brewers

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<v Speaker 2>in a five game series five wins in four days,

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<v Speaker 2>and they went to Ohio, but I believe swept the

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<v Speaker 2>Reds and the Guardians or the Indians at that time.

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<v Speaker 2>That was part of that infamous eleven game win streak

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<v Speaker 2>that led to some very big decisions being made that

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<v Speaker 2>maybe didn't help them in the long run. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>why Josh isn't smiling while I'm talking about But anyway, overall,

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<v Speaker 2>we've seen this before and it seems like it's happening again.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys. The Pirates are.

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<v Speaker 2>Heating up at one of the most exciting times to

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<v Speaker 2>heat up, right in the middle of the summer.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark will start with you. You were at the game Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>What was the atmosphere like and how is Bucko Nation

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<v Speaker 2>feeling about it?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, the vibes in P and C Park were unlike

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<v Speaker 3>anything I'd really seen since maybe like Paul Skeen's debut,

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<v Speaker 3>as far as the optimism in the stadium, the belief

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<v Speaker 3>in this team. Where I mean, it's easy to believe

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<v Speaker 3>in this team when they're up eleven runs or what

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<v Speaker 3>have you on the second best team in baseball. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's one good game. But they're finishing off a sweep

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<v Speaker 3>like that and they're doing it in dominating fashion where

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<v Speaker 3>this offense is just electric. I was just sitting there

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<v Speaker 3>looking around at all the people in the crowd, like,

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<v Speaker 3>this is so much fun to watch this team play baseball.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's because they're good and it's not like they're

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<v Speaker 3>just fun and like, oh, they have like a cone

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<v Speaker 3>and they have a mask and that's all fun and like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>they'll hit a couple of home runs. No, this is

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<v Speaker 3>a legitimate offense. I think they have the second best

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<v Speaker 3>ops in the league right now, which is ridiculous most

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<v Speaker 3>runs when we're coming off a year where it was

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<v Speaker 3>the complete opposite. I mean this, just to put it nicely,

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<v Speaker 3>like this offense was completely lethargic last year just just

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<v Speaker 3>sold it almost And the juxaposition from this year to

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<v Speaker 3>last year is just it's hard not to be encouraged

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<v Speaker 3>as a Pirates fan at this point in the season. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>this season could have there's so many points where it

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<v Speaker 3>could have gone better. They could be way more games

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<v Speaker 3>up over five hundred than where they're at, but they're

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<v Speaker 3>still over five hundred at the All Star break and

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<v Speaker 3>looking like they should be buyers at the deadline. No,

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<v Speaker 3>I saw you tweeted out a slight change of heart today.

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<v Speaker 3>Where are your thoughts on the scene right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I wrote that column in June about how the.

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<v Speaker 2>Pirates didn't deserve to be serious buyers until they showed,

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<v Speaker 2>until this current group showed that it could be better

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<v Speaker 2>than what it was, because they went for a whole

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<v Speaker 2>month essentially where they were never higher or lower than

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<v Speaker 2>a game above or below five hundred, And now they're

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<v Speaker 2>getting past that. They were two games over five hundred

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<v Speaker 2>earlier this week when Schemes got them a win Tuesday

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<v Speaker 2>against the Braves, and now they're three games over five

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<v Speaker 2>hundred for the first time since early June. So they

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<v Speaker 2>kind of checked the box that I asked them to check.

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<v Speaker 2>And so that's why my position changed on them, was

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<v Speaker 2>because I said, you know, like, you need to prove

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<v Speaker 2>that you're more than average like you've been when when

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<v Speaker 2>you tread water for two thirds of your front half

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<v Speaker 2>of the season, then maybe you're just a team that's

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<v Speaker 2>treading water.

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<v Speaker 1>But they prove that they're not.

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<v Speaker 2>They prove that hey, like, yeah, we treaded water because

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<v Speaker 2>we've been going through injuries and we have guys going

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<v Speaker 2>through slumps. But the high the ceiling is higher than

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<v Speaker 2>probably what I anticipated it. And I'll totally own that

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<v Speaker 2>they're a team that deserves further investment. And they're not

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<v Speaker 2>a team that needs a ton of further investment either,

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<v Speaker 2>if you look at what they need. I mean, they

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<v Speaker 2>went out and they made a trade, which ironically we

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<v Speaker 2>didn't even talk about yet. Yeah, and we can kind

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<v Speaker 2>of break down, I guess somewhere in this show.

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<v Speaker 1>But they went out made a trade.

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<v Speaker 2>They found some depth at shortstop, which we all agreed

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<v Speaker 2>was the primary focus. They prioritized that over the bullpen.

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<v Speaker 2>Right the starting pitching has looked a lot better. Aside

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<v Speaker 2>from one guy, everyone else is throwing the ball better,

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<v Speaker 2>Bubba Chandler's been better over the last week, Jared Jones

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<v Speaker 2>coming off of a perfect six innings, Paul Skins, we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna talk about him in the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Brax and Ashcot an All Star.

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<v Speaker 2>So their rotation is trending upwards. Their bullpen is still

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<v Speaker 2>a mess, but like it's maybe not as bad as

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<v Speaker 2>it has been. And then the lineup man like Valdez

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<v Speaker 2>and Mangum, the way they've stepped up, Tyler Callahan, the

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<v Speaker 2>way he stepped up, it's pretty impressive to see the

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<v Speaker 2>position player depth in this group, and you might not

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<v Speaker 2>have it in all areas. You don't really have a

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<v Speaker 2>true third basement. You have a guy who can hit

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<v Speaker 2>well and he can play third base, but I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>say he's a true third baseman. You don't have a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of depth at shortstop, but the right side of

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<v Speaker 2>the infield. All throughout the outfield, you have so many

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<v Speaker 2>guys who can mash. They have like the problem of

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<v Speaker 2>not knowing how you're gonna keep Valdez and Mangum in

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<v Speaker 2>this lineup whenever Cruz and Horowitz return, And that's just

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<v Speaker 2>something that would have been unfathomable for this organization to imagine.

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<v Speaker 2>Even going into this year, I think we all thought

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<v Speaker 2>the offense was gonna be better. I don't think anyone

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<v Speaker 2>in Major League based, including the Pirates, thought it would

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<v Speaker 2>be this good.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm not thinking they're gonna be this good. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>No one thought they were gonna be this good.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think everyone would have thought their ceiling would have

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<v Speaker 2>been top third, maybe top five, but the best in baseball.

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<v Speaker 2>That is unbelievable how good they've been. Josh, I know

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<v Speaker 2>you have stuff to.

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<v Speaker 4>Add, well, you mentioned Red Hot Bucks Man. They're scorching,

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<v Speaker 4>especially given where they've been in injuries, things that you've

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<v Speaker 4>talked about. You look at the body of work throughout

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<v Speaker 4>the first half of season. Yes there's been a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of this, but you mentioned they've gone through some injuries.

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<v Speaker 4>They are missing a lot of key players, and honestly,

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<v Speaker 4>you say, what happens without Is and Mangam, Win, Horowitz

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<v Speaker 4>and O'Neill come back. That's honestly a good problem to have.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think either one of them being sent to

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<v Speaker 4>Triple A. But it makes you bench stronger. But it

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<v Speaker 4>also makes your matchup stronger because at this point the

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<v Speaker 4>second half of the season, now you got guys coming back,

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<v Speaker 4>you got guys coming off the All Star break. You're fresh,

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<v Speaker 4>so you're able to say, okay, this matchup they make sense.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think Valdaez and Mangham have both done enough

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<v Speaker 4>that when these guys went down, we talked about guys,

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<v Speaker 4>we're gonna have to step up next man up. You

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<v Speaker 4>need guys you know that may not be the prototypical

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<v Speaker 4>guy to step up. There's gonna be a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>opportunity for a lot of people, and those guys have

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<v Speaker 4>seized that opportunity and when Horowitz and O'Neil come back

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<v Speaker 4>and makes your team that much stronger. And yes, it

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<v Speaker 4>is kind of sucks a little bit because obviously they're

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<v Speaker 4>playing time is going to be diminished. But as I said,

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<v Speaker 4>that's a good problem to have because those guys are

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<v Speaker 4>playing really well. And if you got those guys coming

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<v Speaker 4>off the bench or you know, you know, starting a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of games a week, that makes your team really dangerous.

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<v Speaker 4>And you mentioned it, Noah's saying that they have to prove,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, sweeping you know the Brewers this weekend, especially

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<v Speaker 4>after taking the first one against the Bridge, losing the

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<v Speaker 4>next two right and then going against you know, the Brewers.

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<v Speaker 4>We knew what was at hand, and they did it.

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<v Speaker 4>And as you said, putting the cherry on top today

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<v Speaker 4>was how they won. You know, it was almost like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>we're just gonna put you out of your misery and

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<v Speaker 4>y'all can go ahead and get ready to go to

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<v Speaker 4>All Star Break as well. But I think they've done

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<v Speaker 4>everything that they needed to, as we mentioned this last week,

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<v Speaker 4>going into the All Star break to you know, go

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<v Speaker 4>in there one, get your guys healthy, that finish the

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<v Speaker 4>All Star break and you're hoping to get guys coming back.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think that's a good problem to have because

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<v Speaker 4>that means you can invest a little bit more in

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<v Speaker 4>other areas that you might have thought you needed to.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I'll just follow up by saying that I

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<v Speaker 3>think having the good like this great problem to have

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<v Speaker 3>with Mangum and Valdez. When Howards and Cruise return, it's

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<v Speaker 3>just gonna make everyone better because they're gonna be able

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<v Speaker 3>to play to the best, like the best matchups for them.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't have to get overextended. If you don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to play ONEO Cruise against lefties, that's fine. You can

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<v Speaker 3>put Mangum in center field and throw Valdez out, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know that you're gonna have a lefty masher out

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<v Speaker 3>there with Valdez. So the flexibility, oh yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>if you have your Don Alvarez in the lineup, you

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<v Speaker 3>leave him in. And that is what the production level

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<v Speaker 3>that as Relan Valdez has been bringing. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if he's gonna continue to hit like your Don Alvarez.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think so. I think there will be a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit of a but while he's doing this, I

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<v Speaker 3>mean you can't take him out now, but we'll cross

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<v Speaker 3>that bridge when.

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<v Speaker 1>We get there.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I mean this is the this is the

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<v Speaker 2>deepest position position player group they've had in ten years.

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<v Speaker 3>They had one player. It's over one hundred WRC plus

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<v Speaker 3>last year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, this is this is this is the

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<v Speaker 2>position player group. It's not the same team because the

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<v Speaker 2>team I'm going to compare it to had an equally talented,

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<v Speaker 2>if not better, pitching staff.

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<v Speaker 1>But this, this position player group is as deep as

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<v Speaker 1>is the fifteen team.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you have multiple guys where it's like, oh, guy

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<v Speaker 2>gets hurt at third, It's all right.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll plug him in over here, blah blah blah blah blah,

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<v Speaker 1>and like.

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<v Speaker 2>You just have you have an answer for everything in

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<v Speaker 2>this lineup right now, especially after the trade, which we're just.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to get into real quick here before we go

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<v Speaker 1>to a break.

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<v Speaker 2>On Friday evening, the Pirates acquired infielder Jacob Gonzalez and

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<v Speaker 2>left handed reliever Brandon Isisert from the Chicago White Sox

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<v Speaker 2>for the number thirty four overall pick, which was actually

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<v Speaker 2>used on Jim Tomey's son.

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<v Speaker 1>Which I thought was pretty coo.

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<v Speaker 3>White Sox.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, by the White Sox.

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<v Speaker 2>They also traded Jayden Woods to the White Sox as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys, just your your quick thoughts on this. I'll give

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<v Speaker 1>mine real fast.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I tweeted this, and like we said in the show,

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<v Speaker 2>and I said it earlier in uh this segment, shortstop

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<v Speaker 2>was the priority, that was the immediate need. And this

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<v Speaker 2>this kid, Gonzalez, you know, he never even started at

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<v Speaker 2>shortstop before, uh, you know, coming to Pittsburgh. All of

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<v Speaker 2>his playing times at first base, it's because they have Montgomery,

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<v Speaker 2>yep at shortstop in Chicago, and you're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>play him on the Montgomery.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's a beast, But this is a guy I

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<v Speaker 1>like that. He hits from the left side.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a platoon fit with Triolo at short probably

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<v Speaker 2>a platoon fit with Gonzalez.

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<v Speaker 1>If Nick's bat ever cools down.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I like that, I would have liked to train

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more if it was a right handed reliever.

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<v Speaker 2>You look under the hood is cert stuff is better

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<v Speaker 2>than probably what his numbers indicate.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't think he's like a massive fixed to

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<v Speaker 1>anything they have.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you guys think, Yeah, I'll go ahead, draft.

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<v Speaker 2>You go first.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'll be quick I was just gonna say, definitely

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<v Speaker 4>address the depth or short stuff. I think that was

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<v Speaker 4>number one, just because it's like you can't wait around

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<v Speaker 4>too long. That's an important position. And as you mentioned

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<v Speaker 4>left handed batter, I think he'll be nice to compliment with.

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<v Speaker 4>As you said Gonzales Triolo, you also got Callahan that's

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<v Speaker 4>in there too, so it's just another guy that you know.

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<v Speaker 4>And you mentioned he played first or which is down,

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<v Speaker 4>so that's a guy that has shown he can play first.

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<v Speaker 4>So his versatility is as another guy that you mentioned

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<v Speaker 4>that could be plugged in some other places and left

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<v Speaker 4>handed reliever. Don't really know much about him, but I

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<v Speaker 4>agree with you would have been looking for writing. But

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<v Speaker 4>at the same time, you know relievers, Hey, you'll take

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<v Speaker 4>what you can get. If he proves to be value

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<v Speaker 4>performing against them outs, I'm sure they're not going to

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<v Speaker 4>be upset about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I was a little underwhelmed by the trade. I thought

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<v Speaker 3>they left a little bit of meata on the bone.

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<v Speaker 3>But going back and looking at what these like comp

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<v Speaker 3>picks are, like the return for them, it doesn't seem

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<v Speaker 3>like it's too far off. They just aren't really valued

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<v Speaker 3>in baseball like you see like picks and other leagues

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<v Speaker 3>get these, you know, like diamond hands around them where

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<v Speaker 3>they get super valuable. Not the case with mob. Jacob

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<v Speaker 3>Gonzalez can just play all over the infield. He's showed

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of power in Triple A. Although the Chicago

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<v Speaker 3>White Sox, their Triple A ballpark, I guess is pretty

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<v Speaker 3>pretty hit or friendly, so those yeah, so those stats

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<v Speaker 3>are slightly skewed, but I mean overall it was it's

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<v Speaker 3>infield depth, which is what we wanted, and more bullpen depth.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, maybe Jacob Gonzalez, I don't know too

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<v Speaker 3>much about him. Maybe he's just a guy that was

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<v Speaker 3>blocked by Colsa Montgomery. We saw that with Spencer Horowitz.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, he was blocked by Vladimir Guerrero Junior. Maybe

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<v Speaker 3>we're you know, skimming off where other teams have surplus

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<v Speaker 3>that we can get some extra added value from a

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<v Speaker 3>guy who may not have the name recognition.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Gonzalez kind of gives me the rep like

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<v Speaker 2>it seems like somebody in between a Callahan and a

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<v Speaker 2>Spencer Horowitz, Like Callahan was a guy who probably, like

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<v Speaker 2>I think that was a really good acquisition considering what

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<v Speaker 2>they gave up for Callahan, and I was skeptical on that,

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<v Speaker 2>but like, there are some overlying traits here and he's

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<v Speaker 2>just a better defender. And then yeah, like the Horowitz

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<v Speaker 2>element of it, it's like this was a talented minor

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<v Speaker 2>leaguer who was blocked by an elite player at his

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<v Speaker 2>primary position. So yeah, and then just on the value

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<v Speaker 2>to wrap this up, they weren't gonna get crazy value

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<v Speaker 2>for this because it was abundantly they were desperate.

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<v Speaker 1>To trade this PI.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, they had no leverage and when you're going

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<v Speaker 2>and that's that, I'm not folding the pirates for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Like they had they they had.

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<v Speaker 2>To make this move, and so they had to do

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<v Speaker 2>like you got to go into it knowing you're probably

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna walk away with dollar for dollar equivalent value here.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna probably walk away with a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>an underwhelming return.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I don't think it's an amazing return,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't know how much better they probably could

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<v Speaker 2>have got because it, like you guys pointed out, it

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<v Speaker 2>addresses a paragon.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna take a quick break. When we come back,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna talk about that guy.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, guys, Last Week Written in the Pittsburgh Post

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<v Speaker 2>Gazette Byeline Noah Hayles said, this is the biggest week

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<v Speaker 2>of Paul Skein's major league career. He had two starts remaining.

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<v Speaker 2>He needed to win both of those starts. That was

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<v Speaker 2>what I said on this show. That's what I said

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<v Speaker 2>in the newspaper. Put in an ink, as they say,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if he's a subscriber to local journalism

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<v Speaker 2>in Pittsburgh.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope he is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he can afford it. And if not, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe his girlfriend I was might know someone. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but no, Paul Skins answered the bell and props to him.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not sitting here obviously. I'm not sitting here

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<v Speaker 2>and being like.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, he's stupped up to my challenge. That's not what

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<v Speaker 1>Paul needed to be great this week.

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<v Speaker 2>They had six games at home against two first place teams.

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<v Speaker 2>They needed to win at least three of them. They

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<v Speaker 2>won four.

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<v Speaker 1>He won half. He was responsible for half those wins.

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<v Speaker 2>Granted, they scored a combined six runs his two starts.

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<v Speaker 1>So like if he.

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<v Speaker 3>Didn't win a lot of lost time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, he received a ten run inning on Sunday

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<v Speaker 2>and then one guy drove in ten runs by himself

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<v Speaker 2>on Tuesday, So like again, but Paul Skeins. This is

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<v Speaker 2>the best back to back starts he's made probably in

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<v Speaker 2>a month.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's not all the way back, I don't think.

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<v Speaker 2>But this was such a necessary step forward because Paul

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<v Speaker 2>Skins is gonna have to take the reins here and

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<v Speaker 2>put this team on his back in the second half.

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<v Speaker 2>And you feel a little better about his chances of

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<v Speaker 2>doing that after the way you've seen him pitch this

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<v Speaker 2>past week.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think the one thing he needs to really

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<v Speaker 3>improve on is just continue to go deep and ye

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<v Speaker 3>give this bullpen as much rest as possible when he

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<v Speaker 3>is stepping on the mound every five days, because the

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<v Speaker 3>more benefit or the more rests that he can provide

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<v Speaker 3>this bullpen, and he is the starter who I think

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<v Speaker 3>has that the biggest potential to go as deep in

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<v Speaker 3>the games as possible. He's got to be that ace

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<v Speaker 3>and step up and say I'm going to go six,

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<v Speaker 3>but hopefully even seven. And we've seen him do that

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<v Speaker 3>in the past, we just really haven't seen it as

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<v Speaker 3>much this year. And so that's where I'm looking post

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<v Speaker 3>All Star break. Skins is skinting the wins now. He

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<v Speaker 3>put the losing street behind him, putting his team in

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<v Speaker 3>position to win. Now, put your bullpen in a position

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<v Speaker 3>to continue to provide wins after you're not starting, so

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<v Speaker 3>the next day, in the next day, put your team

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<v Speaker 3>in a position to succeed. And that's the impact I'm

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<v Speaker 3>looking for him from after the UL Star break.

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<v Speaker 4>What about you, Josh, Yeah, obviously, you know you look

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<v Speaker 4>forward to the offense doing what they did every night,

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<v Speaker 4>regardless who's on the mound. That'll help all the pitchers.

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<v Speaker 4>But as you mentioned, his back to back starts probably

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<v Speaker 4>his best back to back starts in a while. And

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<v Speaker 4>as you mentioned though, it still left a lot out

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<v Speaker 4>there that you know, you think you could improve on.

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<v Speaker 4>But you also take a step back to say, two

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<v Speaker 4>first place teams, you know, so it's not like these

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<v Speaker 4>back to back wins were against And I don't want

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<v Speaker 4>to call anybody a cupcake because it's a major league team.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it's a team full of major league players,

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<v Speaker 4>so regardless who you're facing, but you in back to

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<v Speaker 4>back first place teams, I think that's enough of a

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<v Speaker 4>statement to say, you know, let's get ready to correct

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<v Speaker 4>this thing, because you know, when you're facing teams like that,

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<v Speaker 4>you gotta be on it. And as I said, it

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<v Speaker 4>helped that the offense was on it as well. But

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<v Speaker 4>that's just for some of the starts that you know,

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<v Speaker 4>things didn't go his way defensively or you know, they

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<v Speaker 4>might not have gone offensively. Sometimes you need a little

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<v Speaker 4>help from the whole team to get not only yourself

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<v Speaker 4>off the slide. But I'm sure everybody else knew. Man

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<v Speaker 4>we've lost so many if his starts in a row.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody knows that, especially when you're dealing with a guy

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<v Speaker 4>like Paul Schemes, those numbers aren't gonna go unknown because

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<v Speaker 4>you know, most part people like that's an automatic win

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<v Speaker 4>until it wasn't. So I think just the way he

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<v Speaker 4>handled it not necessarily answer No, it's you know, challenge.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know that's just part of him being a competitor. Know.

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<v Speaker 4>I know he knew that he had two starts lined

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<v Speaker 4>up before All Star break. He's like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 4>give you know, give my guys a chance. And I

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<v Speaker 4>think he did everything he was supposed to to get

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<v Speaker 4>him headed right back, you know, headed towards the right

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<v Speaker 4>direction of cleaning up the things that he needs to

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<v Speaker 4>clean up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, you just look at it, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>said before, Paul Skeins needs to be the best player

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<v Speaker 2>on this team and the remainder of July, all throughout August,

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<v Speaker 2>all throughout September, and if they get the privilege to

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<v Speaker 2>play in October that time too.

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<v Speaker 1>He needs to do it. And and the reality is

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<v Speaker 1>his struggles him.

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<v Speaker 2>Not pitching deep into games should give him the availability

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<v Speaker 2>to have just the longest leash possible. If he's able

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<v Speaker 2>to give you eight every night from here until the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the year, there shouldn't be a worry about

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<v Speaker 2>that because his pitch count and his total maybe nice

0:20:47.280 --> 0:20:49.600
<v Speaker 2>pitch count, but his total of endings for sure is

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<v Speaker 2>probably not as high as they anticipated it being.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean, maybe a giant woke up this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>And if they did, if this, if.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're gonna see Skemes turn into twenty twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>cy Young Skimes in the second half, paired with this offense,

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<v Speaker 2>that's gonna be a problem for the National even with

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<v Speaker 2>the bullpen being what it is. You're not gonna beat

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<v Speaker 2>this team very often with him at his best with

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<v Speaker 2>this run support.

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<v Speaker 1>You're just not so. And yeah, it.

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<v Speaker 2>Starts with him, and they have an opportunity with him

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<v Speaker 2>starting Sunday. They don't play again until Friday. He can

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<v Speaker 2>you can line up the rotation where he's gonna get

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<v Speaker 2>the most starts for the second half of the y.

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<v Speaker 2>So they are in a pretty good spot when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to uh, mister Skeens.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna take another quick break when we come back.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just another reason why fanjiel is the home of

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<v Speaker 3>home runs. So, guys, it's the All Star break. The

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<v Speaker 3>only home runs I'm thinking about are in the home

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<v Speaker 3>run Derby. So who you guys think is gonna win

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<v Speaker 3>the home run Derberty this year?

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<v Speaker 1>I'll go first, Okay, go ahead, Josh, Nope, Nope, go ahead, Josh.

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<v Speaker 4>It's in Philly, Citizens Bank Park, it's gonna be hard

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<v Speaker 4>to go against Schwarber. And I don't know who's throwing

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<v Speaker 4>to them, but if Klon the hitting coach throwing to him,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna go ahead and go Schwarbers for the for

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<v Speaker 4>the home run derby champion Citizens Bank go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>No, yeah, you know, I was gonna say Murakami. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>looking at the odds right now. Schwarber's the favorite. He's

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<v Speaker 2>plus three forty. I know who Mark's gonna say. And

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<v Speaker 2>if we would have said, if I would have said

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<v Speaker 2>Murakami would have picked the top three odds guys. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna instead, I'm gonna go with another Philly. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna go Bryce Harper plus eight hundred. He's won the

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<v Speaker 2>event before, but it elite. See yeah, right, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>his dad, his dad's pitch. I mean, I would assume

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<v Speaker 2>his dad's gonna pitch to him again because his dad

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<v Speaker 2>was pitching.

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<v Speaker 1>To him when he won.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I'll go with another Philly. I'll go Bryce

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<v Speaker 2>Harper plus eight hundred. I like the value there, even

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<v Speaker 2>though I'm not allowed to gamble on baseball. If I

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<v Speaker 2>were were to take Bryce Harper plus eight hundred, Mark,

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<v Speaker 2>what do.

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<v Speaker 3>You got Oh, I think we're gonna see the emergence

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<v Speaker 3>of a new superstar here, Junior Cameron Narrow about to

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<v Speaker 3>make his way onto the national stage. More people need

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<v Speaker 3>to know about him. We're talking pre show and Noah

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<v Speaker 3>said he's the most underrated player in MLB right now,

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<v Speaker 3>and I completely concur So, Yeah, I'm gonna go Junior

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<v Speaker 3>the best transition My Key of the week. All right,

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<v Speaker 3>this week's Key of the Week another former Key of

0:24:46.560 --> 0:24:49.720
<v Speaker 3>the Week, but he's gonna get some more shine because

0:24:49.840 --> 0:24:51.840
<v Speaker 3>he just continues to mash. Who else could it be?

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<v Speaker 3>It's the magician s Marilyn Valdez. Just I mentioned it

0:24:56.320 --> 0:24:59.879
<v Speaker 3>just earlier. He has this higher WRT plus right now,

0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:05.199
<v Speaker 3>and Jordan Alvarez just the highest and MLB with one

0:25:05.240 --> 0:25:09.320
<v Speaker 3>hundred at bats, just absolutely clutch hitting this whole series.

0:25:09.359 --> 0:25:13.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm scrolling down to this OPTA stats here where he

0:25:14.119 --> 0:25:17.520
<v Speaker 3>just continually tied the game, just brought up clutch hit

0:25:17.560 --> 0:25:21.920
<v Speaker 3>after clutch hit, the go ahead grand slam. Just this

0:25:22.080 --> 0:25:25.160
<v Speaker 3>kid's so much fun. And that's my favorite part as

0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:28.600
<v Speaker 3>a fan is not only is he really really good

0:25:28.840 --> 0:25:31.760
<v Speaker 3>and mashing the baseball, but he's so easy to root for,

0:25:32.320 --> 0:25:34.920
<v Speaker 3>and it's just so awesome to see that the one

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<v Speaker 3>guy on this team that is really taking a big

0:25:37.640 --> 0:25:40.840
<v Speaker 3>step forward is the guy that the Pirates developed themselves,

0:25:41.320 --> 0:25:44.600
<v Speaker 3>that came up through this international development program, that is

0:25:45.560 --> 0:25:48.320
<v Speaker 3>showing power. That the Pirates actually developed a power bat.

0:25:48.920 --> 0:25:52.320
<v Speaker 3>I don't really recall them doing a lot of that

0:25:52.440 --> 0:25:55.080
<v Speaker 3>since maybe like a guy like Andrew McCutchen or something

0:25:55.160 --> 0:25:59.959
<v Speaker 3>even yeah Josh Bell, yeah yeah, but just a guy

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<v Speaker 3>that has come up through the system looks great as

0:26:02.720 --> 0:26:05.280
<v Speaker 3>a twenty two year old, We're gonna have to find

0:26:05.280 --> 0:26:08.240
<v Speaker 3>a way to get him in this lineup. Makes the

0:26:08.320 --> 0:26:11.560
<v Speaker 3>decision with Marcelo Zuna really easy whenever they need to

0:26:11.600 --> 0:26:15.159
<v Speaker 3>make that call. And yeah, I just I am so

0:26:15.560 --> 0:26:18.600
<v Speaker 3>so happy that as Marilyn Valdez is on this team,

0:26:18.920 --> 0:26:22.000
<v Speaker 3>mashing and just been a great, great addition to this

0:26:22.119 --> 0:26:26.119
<v Speaker 3>roster this year. Well, where you got thoughts on as

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<v Speaker 3>Marillian I know, Josh, you've talked about him a few

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<v Speaker 3>times here. Well you see it, like, do you think

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<v Speaker 3>this is something he can sustain? Where you see him

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<v Speaker 3>like settling out.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to say that it's something he can't

0:26:39.520 --> 0:26:43.960
<v Speaker 4>sustain because obviously he's got over one hundred bats, so

0:26:44.080 --> 0:26:48.399
<v Speaker 4>he's been swinging it really well. Obviously these numbers are

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<v Speaker 4>something that people are going to keep an eye on

0:26:50.640 --> 0:26:52.359
<v Speaker 4>because there are some numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, man, but.

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<v Speaker 4>He's not getting cheap hits. So for me, I'm like,

0:26:58.280 --> 0:27:01.000
<v Speaker 4>he's making contact on pitch is in a little bit

0:27:01.040 --> 0:27:02.359
<v Speaker 4>of what I've seen is he's starting to work a

0:27:02.440 --> 0:27:06.000
<v Speaker 4>little bit more walks too. But I mean I see

0:27:06.040 --> 0:27:08.200
<v Speaker 4>him coming in, I see him coming in doing his

0:27:08.320 --> 0:27:11.800
<v Speaker 4>little one thing. Man, it's it's kind of infectious because

0:27:11.840 --> 0:27:14.040
<v Speaker 4>you see the whole team kind of goes crazy when

0:27:14.080 --> 0:27:17.280
<v Speaker 4>he does it, and I can imagine the whole you know,

0:27:17.400 --> 0:27:20.439
<v Speaker 4>the whole dugout, the whole crowd, especially this past weekend.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, as you mentioned, is very rare, and

0:27:24.800 --> 0:27:27.359
<v Speaker 4>I own stay very rare. But you know, there haven't

0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:29.480
<v Speaker 4>been many times that the Pirates have had, you know,

0:27:29.600 --> 0:27:32.760
<v Speaker 4>power batch to get excited about. You know, you both

0:27:32.880 --> 0:27:35.119
<v Speaker 4>mentioned you know, Josh Bell, Andrew mccutchy, you know, my

0:27:35.160 --> 0:27:37.920
<v Speaker 4>boy Page Robarez is another one. You know, just some

0:27:38.080 --> 0:27:42.320
<v Speaker 4>names that you know, it's not that many is exciting

0:27:42.440 --> 0:27:44.800
<v Speaker 4>to see, especially you know at the ballpark that isn't

0:27:44.840 --> 0:27:47.719
<v Speaker 4>considered hit or friendly. It doesn't matter where he's at.

0:27:47.720 --> 0:27:50.639
<v Speaker 4>He's making these ballparks look small, and you know, it's

0:27:50.680 --> 0:27:53.400
<v Speaker 4>exciting to see because, as we've mentioned earlier in the show,

0:27:54.160 --> 0:27:56.720
<v Speaker 4>he's just taking advantage of an opportunity that you know

0:27:57.680 --> 0:28:00.159
<v Speaker 4>might have come a little sooner than people may have,

0:28:00.480 --> 0:28:03.840
<v Speaker 4>you know, thought, But that's the game of baseball, is

0:28:03.880 --> 0:28:07.080
<v Speaker 4>being ready when your opportunity comes. And uh, he's been

0:28:07.119 --> 0:28:09.520
<v Speaker 4>exciting to watch and I hope he keeps it up.

0:28:09.600 --> 0:28:10.399
<v Speaker 4>I'm rooting for him.

0:28:10.440 --> 0:28:10.960
<v Speaker 5>To keep it up.

0:28:11.720 --> 0:28:13.800
<v Speaker 4>It's gonna be hard to but he's probably not gonna

0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:16.560
<v Speaker 4>pitch him as much. But you know that's part of

0:28:16.600 --> 0:28:18.040
<v Speaker 4>the game. The adjustment are going to see it is

0:28:18.080 --> 0:28:20.959
<v Speaker 4>he gonna chang Chase more. But you know, as far

0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:23.359
<v Speaker 4>as what he's done for this early part has been

0:28:23.480 --> 0:28:24.080
<v Speaker 4>very impressive.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just some quick thoughts.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the names that we just mentioned, Cutch, JB, Pedro,

0:28:31.240 --> 0:28:33.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, all those guys debuted more than a decade ago.

0:28:34.480 --> 0:28:35.800
<v Speaker 1>So it's been a long time.

0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:38.600
<v Speaker 2>And also to note on those guys, all three of

0:28:38.680 --> 0:28:40.800
<v Speaker 2>those guys, JB might have been a second round pick

0:28:40.880 --> 0:28:43.960
<v Speaker 2>or a comp pick, but Pedro was like second over all.

0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:46.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and Cutch was top ten.

0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:51.200
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, this guy wasn't he got one hundred and

0:28:51.240 --> 0:28:54.120
<v Speaker 3>thirty thousand dollars signing bonuts. He wasn't even like top

0:28:54.400 --> 0:28:57.080
<v Speaker 3>ten or fifteen in that international signing class.

0:28:57.960 --> 0:29:00.960
<v Speaker 2>He was. He was a lottery ticket guy. There's hundreds

0:29:00.960 --> 0:29:05.280
<v Speaker 2>of those guys in every word, and this is a

0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:07.800
<v Speaker 2>huge win. He was someone I mean, at this time

0:29:07.880 --> 0:29:10.680
<v Speaker 2>last year, I was interviewing him at the Futures Game

0:29:10.720 --> 0:29:12.680
<v Speaker 2>and he had an Altuna curve had on and he

0:29:12.840 --> 0:29:17.440
<v Speaker 2>wasn't even remarkably productive in Altuna last year.

0:29:17.720 --> 0:29:21.080
<v Speaker 1>Hell, I mean, his numbers in Triple A aren't nearly

0:29:21.120 --> 0:29:23.240
<v Speaker 1>as good as how good he's been in the major leagues.

0:29:25.080 --> 0:29:28.200
<v Speaker 2>And like I've been, I feel like it could if

0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:30.920
<v Speaker 2>you go back and look at my analysis on Valdez

0:29:30.960 --> 0:29:32.719
<v Speaker 2>on this show, I could come back come off as

0:29:32.760 --> 0:29:35.120
<v Speaker 2>a hater just because I've been skeptical in the sense

0:29:35.120 --> 0:29:37.520
<v Speaker 2>where it's like this guy has never been a high

0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:40.760
<v Speaker 2>rated prospect. This guy, I mean, yeah, he mashed in Greensborough,

0:29:40.800 --> 0:29:44.000
<v Speaker 2>so's everybody else, and like he's been fine in these

0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:44.640
<v Speaker 2>other levels.

0:29:44.680 --> 0:29:46.840
<v Speaker 1>But like I kind of expected him to be like another.

0:29:46.640 --> 0:29:49.440
<v Speaker 2>Tyler Callahan or just like you know, a platoon guy,

0:29:49.480 --> 0:29:52.560
<v Speaker 2>a bench guy, someone who maybe he could start for each.

0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:56.480
<v Speaker 1>He's like a guy where it's like you gotta have

0:29:56.600 --> 0:29:58.680
<v Speaker 1>him in the lineup. But that's what he is right now.

0:29:59.160 --> 0:30:01.280
<v Speaker 2>And to go up what Josh said here to round

0:30:01.280 --> 0:30:04.400
<v Speaker 2>out my point, there's nothing that gives a spark to

0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:07.400
<v Speaker 2>a major league baseball team more than a productive young player.

0:30:08.040 --> 0:30:10.480
<v Speaker 1>When you bring that youthful energy. I mean, sure you

0:30:10.560 --> 0:30:11.920
<v Speaker 1>can go and you can acquire a.

0:30:11.960 --> 0:30:16.360
<v Speaker 2>Superstar, and there's there's definitely a pop to the energy there,

0:30:16.440 --> 0:30:18.920
<v Speaker 2>because when you get somebody who's established, but when a

0:30:19.040 --> 0:30:22.000
<v Speaker 2>young kid comes up and they asked, they needed him,

0:30:22.120 --> 0:30:24.960
<v Speaker 2>they needed him to be God. Absolutely, He's coming into

0:30:25.000 --> 0:30:28.200
<v Speaker 2>a lineup where four of your everyday players, you're starting

0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:31.160
<v Speaker 2>short stuff, you're starting centerfielder, you're starting first baseman, who

0:30:31.240 --> 0:30:33.120
<v Speaker 2>is your leadoff hitter, and you're starting catcher.

0:30:34.320 --> 0:30:37.000
<v Speaker 1>All four of those guys go down, you need someone

0:30:37.080 --> 0:30:37.640
<v Speaker 1>to step up.

0:30:37.720 --> 0:30:40.000
<v Speaker 2>And Mangum you can expect Mangham to step up because

0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:41.920
<v Speaker 2>he hit three hundred in the major leagues last year.

0:30:43.000 --> 0:30:48.160
<v Speaker 2>Valdez many they needed this and then some And when

0:30:48.200 --> 0:30:49.360
<v Speaker 2>you get a young guy.

0:30:49.520 --> 0:30:52.800
<v Speaker 1>Who can bring that energy who no one expected.

0:30:53.000 --> 0:30:56.680
<v Speaker 2>No Ryan O'Hearn and Brandon Lowe when they arrived and

0:30:56.720 --> 0:30:58.920
<v Speaker 2>they were looking around the clubhouse and who's gonna help

0:30:59.040 --> 0:31:02.480
<v Speaker 2>us get to talk to Valdez probably wasn't the first

0:31:02.480 --> 0:31:04.320
<v Speaker 2>guy on their mind. And when a guy like that

0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:06.600
<v Speaker 2>can step up and be as good as he's been,

0:31:07.120 --> 0:31:10.360
<v Speaker 2>that brings life to a team in a very crucial

0:31:10.400 --> 0:31:13.280
<v Speaker 2>point of the season. And so that is invaluable what

0:31:13.440 --> 0:31:15.560
<v Speaker 2>he's been. He has been so huge, he's been their

0:31:16.120 --> 0:31:19.720
<v Speaker 2>most valuable players of the month. A long shot because

0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:22.280
<v Speaker 2>of how good he been and what he was supposed

0:31:22.280 --> 0:31:22.400
<v Speaker 2>to be.

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<v Speaker 4>I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you know it's also good is when you hit

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<v Speaker 1>Guys, any final thoughts before we wrap it up.

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<v Speaker 3>I just got one quick one shout out to all

0:32:01.440 --> 0:32:04.440
<v Speaker 3>the fans at PNC Park this weekend. The place was

0:32:04.520 --> 0:32:09.000
<v Speaker 3>absolutely rocking. Just so much fun to be there, and

0:32:09.760 --> 0:32:12.280
<v Speaker 3>just I love that atmosphere that you can feel the

0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:16.360
<v Speaker 3>confidence starting to grow. So keep showing up, keep getting loud,

0:32:16.920 --> 0:32:19.360
<v Speaker 3>keep taking your shirts off in the tarp section, whatever

0:32:19.480 --> 0:32:22.480
<v Speaker 3>you do to have fun. It was a great day

0:32:22.480 --> 0:32:24.840
<v Speaker 3>at the ballpark. So if you haven't yet make sure

0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:27.240
<v Speaker 3>you go out and cheer on these twenty twenty six

0:32:27.400 --> 0:32:31.080
<v Speaker 3>Pirates at PNC Park because this scene is very different.

0:32:33.760 --> 0:32:33.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:32:34.120 --> 0:32:36.960
<v Speaker 4>I just we'll say, from the past couple of weeks,

0:32:36.960 --> 0:32:40.720
<v Speaker 4>I've been family traveling and stuff, but bits and pieces

0:32:40.800 --> 0:32:42.960
<v Speaker 4>here and there. They finished strong. It's been exciting to

0:32:43.000 --> 0:32:46.200
<v Speaker 4>watch these last couple of weeks from AFAR. Enjoyed us

0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:49.160
<v Speaker 4>All Star break and get back to it and continue

0:32:49.160 --> 0:32:50.840
<v Speaker 4>to bring that energy you know, to.

0:32:50.920 --> 0:32:51.240
<v Speaker 5>P and C.

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<v Speaker 3>And we'll be here throughout the whole All Star Break

0:32:54.320 --> 0:32:57.040
<v Speaker 3>with our normal schedule as well, so three shows this

0:32:57.160 --> 0:32:57.680
<v Speaker 3>week as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, my final thoughts are growing up in Pittsburgh.

0:33:02.600 --> 0:33:05.400
<v Speaker 2>The barometer for the Pirates was always could they be interesting?

0:33:05.480 --> 0:33:08.760
<v Speaker 2>By the time the Steelers reported the training camp, I'm

0:33:08.800 --> 0:33:11.280
<v Speaker 2>now the league calmnist at the Post Gazette. I'm responsible

0:33:11.360 --> 0:33:13.840
<v Speaker 2>for covering all three teams. I'm looking at my work

0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:17.560
<v Speaker 2>calendar here. The Steelers first day camp is July twenty eighth.

0:33:18.560 --> 0:33:20.720
<v Speaker 2>The Pirates will be the main talk of the town

0:33:21.120 --> 0:33:22.160
<v Speaker 2>on July twenty eighth.

0:33:22.480 --> 0:33:23.720
<v Speaker 1>They have checked that box.

0:33:23.800 --> 0:33:28.040
<v Speaker 2>They are a legitimately interesting team that I'm very much

0:33:28.120 --> 0:33:31.120
<v Speaker 2>looking forward to continue to cover as we get down

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<v Speaker 2>the final stretch here and we'll.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you all covered here.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Bucco Territory for Josh Harrison and Platinum Key no Ohio,

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<v Speaker 2>signing off saying thanks for tuning in to another episode

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<v Speaker 2>of this show, which was presented to you by the

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<v Speaker 2>Foul Territory Network.

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<v Speaker 1>Take care,