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Speaker 1: What's good, y'all, Welcome back to another week at Full

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Speaker 1: Circle with Imry Rose and Lexi Brown. Lexi clock in.

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Speaker 2: How you doing. The season is over, guys, I feel

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Speaker 2: Ryan was the Saddays and I did a wow. Thank God.

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Speaker 1: That's because I am an innocent bias inating. I didn't

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Speaker 1: have to go to practice or playing games, or deal

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Speaker 1: with drama or negotiate cbas.

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Speaker 2: I'm like godly. This season has felt like it went

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Speaker 2: the first like seventy five percent of it went by

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Speaker 2: really quick. But I feel like this tail end of

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Speaker 2: the season and playoffs like dragged on, at least for me.

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Speaker 2: But I was highly entertained. I had a great time

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Speaker 2: despite how my season went. Personally, I've had a great

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Speaker 2: time covering the league and staying engaged and tapping it

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Speaker 2: with y'all. So, first and foremost right of applause with

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Speaker 2: the Las Vegas Aces w VAS.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, congratulations Vegas Aces winning their third championship in the

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Speaker 3: last four seasons, which is unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: There's so much to get into. Where do we even

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Speaker 2: want to start, Mariah with this? I want to start, Let's.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I maybe this isn't the best place to start, but

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Speaker 1: I do want to talk a little bit about Phoenix

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Speaker 1: because and basically their final series, and I wanted to

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Speaker 1: know your opinion because I'm watching the game right and

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Speaker 1: obviously they were out without Satu and that's not a

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Speaker 1: great law great, that's a horrible loss for them. I

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Speaker 1: just the ref complaining and particularly Game four, I didn't

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Speaker 1: feel was entirely I'm sorry. I saw that there were issues.

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Speaker 1: Obviously there's always issues, but I'm curious what you thought

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Speaker 1: about the comments made by the Mercury regarding the because

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Speaker 1: you actually played.

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Speaker 2: To address that. I think unfortunately, the dialogue surrounding the

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Speaker 2: physicality and the refing in this series kind of overtook everything.

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Speaker 2: I think it was a distraction. I think that players

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Speaker 2: and coaches got caught up in it. I think that

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Speaker 2: the Aces used it to their benefit. Asia Wilson shot

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Speaker 2: in nineteen free throws in Game four, and the Mercury

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Speaker 2: shot nineteen total as a team, So I think that

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Speaker 2: the Aces used the dialogue that was going on to

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Speaker 2: their advantage, and I think that the Mercury kind of

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Speaker 2: got caught up in it, even though Kullia Copper in

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Speaker 2: her postgame presser was like, that's not why we lost

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Speaker 2: the game. We lost the game because we turned the

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Speaker 2: ball over too much, not because of the refs, but

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Speaker 2: which is exactly what I thought. I was in Phoenix, guys.

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Speaker 2: I used my free will and utilized it and I

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Speaker 2: just went. So I was at the game. How was

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Speaker 2: the environment? It was fun? Like it was the arena

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Speaker 2: was packed. I mean there was some like empty seats scattered,

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Speaker 2: but like the whole bowl was full top to bottom.

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Speaker 2: I will say, like being down three to zero, Like

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Speaker 2: the morale overall was a little like you could tell

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Speaker 2: that it was kind of like Satu's out, you know,

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Speaker 2: the CBA, Kathy. There's just a lot going on, and

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Speaker 2: you could just tell that the Mercury fans they were

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Speaker 2: really trying to help help the Mercury win that game,

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Speaker 2: and they even made it. I mean they cut it

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Speaker 2: down to a two possession game late in the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 2: so like the game was absolutely winnable for the Mercury,

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Speaker 2: but the the Aces were just playing on a different

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Speaker 2: level than Phoenix coach. Mercury coach got ejected during the

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Speaker 2: game for screaming at the refs, which I was high up.

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Speaker 2: I was like in a suite, but I saw him

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Speaker 2: fast and it was kind of odd that I'm like,

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Speaker 2: everybody's yelling at you, and you're going to eject the

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Speaker 2: ref like. So it's just feel like another series was

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Speaker 2: ruined with re officiating, with technical fouls, with injuries. But

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Speaker 2: that's not taking anything away from the Aces. I just

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Speaker 2: felt like the Mercury, they had a great run to

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Speaker 2: beat the Links in the semi finals. So I think

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Speaker 2: like their X factor was Sammy Whitcomb, and I feel

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Speaker 2: Whatever happened. She shot three for three for eighteen from

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Speaker 2: three in the four games and not saying not Sammy's

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Speaker 2: but as far as the person that I was looking

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Speaker 2: at to get them over that hump to beat Vegas,

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Speaker 2: I was definitely looking at Sammy considering the big shots

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Speaker 2: saw Klinie Brown get some minutes. I feel like they

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Speaker 2: the playoffs, but I think she came in and you know,

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Speaker 2: I think coach went into his bench and he utilized

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Speaker 2: best that she could. I mean, Asia Wilson was playing

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Speaker 2: at an unbelievable level at that point in time, so

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Speaker 2: you know, you throw in a player that hasn't played

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Speaker 2: in like two three weeks, and you're like, okay, let's

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Speaker 2: go stop the best player in the world right now.

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Speaker 2: Have fun. And I think Kilianie did her best, and

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Speaker 2: I think she she could tribute every way that she could,

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Speaker 2: but it was like okay at that point. I just

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Speaker 2: don't think that the Mercury just had the the energy

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Speaker 2: to beat them. They're very young, very inexperienced, like as

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Speaker 2: experience as like the top three four players are as

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Speaker 2: far as playoffs and finals. The rest of the team,

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Speaker 2: like super young rookies, never been to the finals before.

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Speaker 2: So it was like a glaring difference of what the

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Speaker 1: Now, I will say one thing, Lexi, Lexie, because here's

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Speaker 1: the one thing that I feel like it's being left out.

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Speaker 1: If you actually watched the game, which if you're watching

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Speaker 1: our show you probably did not just this game, if

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Speaker 1: you actually watch the finals, I feel like one thing

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Speaker 1: that's getting misconstrued is it's not like Phoenix never had

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Speaker 2: They had a chance in Game three, they had in

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Speaker 2: Game four and in game one. In a game one,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, it's not like it's not like they just

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Speaker 1: you cut the lead to what six in the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 1: you have an opportunity. Kaleia Copper is playing lights out

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Speaker 1: thirty points insane. I remember when they were going into

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Speaker 1: little interview with Holly and she was like, officiating is

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Speaker 2: She was pissed.

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Speaker 1: She's playing incredible, right, there's like ninety seconds left of

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Speaker 1: the game, y'are down eight, you foul out and you

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Speaker 1: like you still have a chance. You still have a

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Speaker 1: to not get swept on your home court like that.

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Speaker 1: It just the officiating thing is got so out of

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Speaker 2: Y'all have a chance.

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Speaker 1: That's why everybody's like, oh Vegas Dynasty, Like yeah, yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: oh that's true.

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Speaker 2: And we're about to give them their flowers in a minute.

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Speaker 1: But I wanted to start with Phoenix because I'm like,

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Speaker 1: it's not like if you're actually watching, Phoenix didn't have

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Speaker 1: a chance and a shot multiple times even without Saw too.

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Speaker 1: They had a shot at the end of that game

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Speaker 1: with seconds left, but it was just they were getting

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Speaker 1: so wrapped up in oh the refs and this and that,

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Speaker 1: and that was the whole conversation of the game. And

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Speaker 1: then you get to the end and they're like, well,

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Speaker 1: we turn the ball over too much, and it's like,

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Speaker 1: but the whole energy throughout the game is everybody yelling

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Speaker 1: also is on which is why I believe the Mercury

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Speaker 1: fans stayed to Boo Kathy. That's also on the leadership,

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Speaker 1: because if the refs weren't so bad and we invest

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Speaker 1: in more and refs, then the final story wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: the official like two head coaches getting getting booted out

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Speaker 1: the game and huge, huge, huge circumstances because of arguing

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Speaker 2: This can't keep happening, bruh.

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Speaker 1: So that that's just shot.

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Speaker 2: No, I mean yeah, I mean I think it was

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Speaker 2: just like I said, their lack of experience ultimately led

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Speaker 2: to a lack of poise down the stretch. And that's

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Speaker 2: what happens when you play a team like Vegas full

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Speaker 2: of guys. I don't think you so let me, I'm

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Speaker 2: to go. I know we're on Phoenix right now. So

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Speaker 2: Phoenix they have on their roster they have two three champions.

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Speaker 2: They have Sammy Whitcomb, Kalia Copper and Dowana Bonner. Okay,

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Speaker 2: these are WNBA champions, and Colonie Copper was the finals

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Speaker 2: MVP right, and she was also a finals MVP correct.

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Speaker 2: On Vegas, you have Kirsten Bell, three time w BAA Champion,

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Speaker 2: Asia Wilson, three times w BA champion, Chelsea Great, four

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Speaker 2: time w BA champion, Jackie Yung, three time w BA champion,

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Speaker 2: Kia Stokes, three time WNBA champion, or four time Dana Evans,

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Speaker 2: two time w BA champion, Duel Lloyd three time WB Like, guys,

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Speaker 2: this team was like, I don't care what anybody had

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Speaker 2: you have winners on this team, and that that shit matters.

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Speaker 2: And I don't care what nobody's stats say, what nobody's

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Speaker 2: career stats say, how many points they've scored, whatever. If

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Speaker 2: you got a if you have a ring in a

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Speaker 2: professional sport, like you're stamped, You're you're on a different level.

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Speaker 2: I don't care. Like if you don't score a ton

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Speaker 2: win a championship, multiple teams at that, I mean, it's

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Speaker 2: amazing to win the championships in one place. But if

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Speaker 2: you're able to go to different teams and seamlessly fit

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Speaker 2: in and help a team win a championship in any capacity,

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Speaker 2: you are on a different level as far as an athlete.

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Speaker 2: In my well, that's.

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Speaker 1: Why nobody was crying when Asia was like, be embarrassed.

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Speaker 1: That's why nobody's crying because they're champions.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they know what that's like exactly. So, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I think that being in Phoenix, it was fun. It

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Speaker 2: was a great environment. There were a lot of Vegas

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Speaker 1: I will say that, Like I saw the pink wigs there.

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Speaker 2: Wait, when we were at we were at a hotel

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Speaker 2: after the game, and this woman walks in in a

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Speaker 2: Asia Wilson jersey, a championship banner from two years ago,

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Speaker 2: and a pink pink wig like this older white woman.

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Speaker 2: That's a great Halloween costume. Like, I love yeah with

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Speaker 2: a pink wig. Like she literally was telling us how

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Speaker 2: she was like waiting after the game, and she was like,

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm just always used to being in First

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Speaker 2: of all, back to the fandom, y'all fans, We love y'all,

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Speaker 2: but like y'all need to relax sometimes. Like she was

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Speaker 2: talking about how she was trying to fight the security people,

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Speaker 2: had like the sparks were like in like just this

432
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 2: weird mick, like we didn't know what was going on upstairs.

433
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 2: But one of the people that worked really closely to

434
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,679
Speaker 2: me since I'd been in LA, it was like her

435
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,159
Speaker 2: lit it was like her parting gift to me was

436
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,719
Speaker 2: we're going to give you the extension because you're dealing

437
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 2: with this and we want you here and dah da da,

438
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,879
Speaker 2: And obviously I wanted to be in LA. I was

439
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,119
Speaker 2: one hundred percent aware of the opting out. Guys. I

440
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 2: didn't do this without thinking about the opt out. I

441
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 2: didn't do this without understanding that I probably am going

442
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 2: to miss out on some money for a year. But

443
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:02,439
Speaker 2: for me, I had a priority ties being able to

444
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 2: focus on getting healthy and not having to worry about

445
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 2: making a team the next two seasons. So also, I

446
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:15,640
Speaker 2: need health insurance. I need it bad. So I will

447
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 2: say like when I was sick, there were moments where

448
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 2: I was just kind of like, I don't know if

449
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 2: I'm going to be able to play again. I don't

450
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 2: know if I'm going to get better, And part of

451
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 2: me was really conflicted because I was like, I'm going

452
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,160
Speaker 2: to sign this contract, and what if I'm not able

453
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 2: to play, Like now, like I'm just going to be

454
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 2: taking money from the organization, and like that's just that's

455
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,959
Speaker 2: not how you should think because like they don't they

456
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 2: don't think about us in that capacity like at all.

457
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,679
Speaker 2: We're just all very disposable. But even before I signed it,

458
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 2: I was like, what if I don't get better, and

459
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 2: like I just you know, show up and just take

460
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 2: the money that I earned. I earned those two years

461
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 2: of an extension. So for me, it was even there

462
00:24:58,440 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 2: was even a moment where I was just like, I

463
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 2: don't know if I want to sign this because I'm

464
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 2: going to feel bad if I'm not able to play.

465
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 2: And then my parents were like, girl, you don't sign that.

466
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 2: You need health insurance first and foremost, and I was like, yeah,

467
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 2: that is true. But even signing the extension, that just

468
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 2: made me even more determined to get better and to

469
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,160
Speaker 2: get healthy because I wanted to show that I had

470
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 2: earned these these two years of a protected contract. And now,

471
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 2: in hindsight, I'm so happy I signed the two year deal,

472
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 2: especially because I wasn't able to be healthy last season

473
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 2: and then this season I didn't play at all, So

474
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 2: thank God, I have next year, you know, because I

475
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 2: don't know what would have happened after having a season

476
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 2: like I just had as far as signing with the

477
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 2: new team. So for me, that's why I signed the

478
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 2: two year deal knowing that the CBA was about to expire.

479
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:53,199
Speaker 2: It expires October thirty first, Today is October thirteenth. But

480
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 2: the last CBA we had they extended it like two months.

481
00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 2: So just because we don't get it signed by October

482
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 2: thirty first, doesn't mean like the lockout is happening and

483
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 2: dah da da da, like we can get an extension

484
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 2: and still continue. We didn't sign our last CBA till

485
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,640
Speaker 2: January twenty twenty.

486
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 1: I did have an interview with Miss Natasha Cloud last week.

487
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 2: I have a post show a little saw some of them.

488
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't posted on my page the ones I

489
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: really want to post yet, but I will you give

490
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 1: you guys a little sneak peek that A couple of

491
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: things that she said that I thought were interesting are

492
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 1: Number One, she feels.

493
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 2: Like there is going to be a lockout. I don't

494
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 2: know how you.

495
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 1: Feel about that, Lexi, but she basically said yeah, yeah.

496
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,439
Speaker 1: I asked her directly and Then the second thing that

497
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 1: she said that gag me was I asked her about

498
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 1: all the Kathy stuff, and she was saying that basically,

499
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 1: she has a personal feeling about it because she was

500
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:55,479
Speaker 1: told that she couldn't be on postseason marketing because of

501
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: her stance on public issues and like that, she like,

502
00:26:58,320 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: isn't the kind of player that could be marketing the

503
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: day NBA by Kathy. So I will put post in

504
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: that clip later, but little exclusive for y'all. I know

505
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: it's gonna happen, but it really put in perspective for

506
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: me that everybody really does have a very personal situation

507
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 1: going on with the CBA. She told me her biggest

508
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 1: thing wasn't wasn't even salaries, but stuff like leadership. And

509
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: she also told me, which I'm curious your perspective on,

510
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 1: because she I brought you up a few times throughout

511
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 1: the conversation, and she was saying, it's really hard to

512
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 1: get a hold of leadership about anything like, oh, like

513
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get these texts riscinded or this situation

514
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,199
Speaker 1: or that situation with this ref and this that the

515
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 1: third and the other that it's hard to get hold

516
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: of somebody.

517
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 2: She said that was her biggest thing. It's having like

518
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 2: for me, I mean, and for me, y'all know, I

519
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 2: don't I don't get texts and stuff like that, so

520
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 2: like I don't know nothing about that. But I will say,

521
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 2: like almost every time I've needed something in the front office,

522
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,959
Speaker 2: Like Bonnie is someone that works in the league off

523
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 2: and I have a really good personal relationship with her,

524
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 2: but like, yeah, sometimes she is hard to get a

525
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 2: hold of and they're kind of like all over the

526
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 2: place with communication. So I will agree with her on that.

527
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 2: But yeah, like in these meetings, like different people bring

528
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 2: up such different things like salary first and foremost, Like

529
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 2: that is how you show your employees or your athletes

530
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 2: what they're worth to you to the business, is how

531
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 2: much they pay you for your work. That's like the

532
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 2: most obvious thing, this revenue sharing thing. The fact that

533
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 2: they are just not willing to even budge a little

534
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 2: bit on it is so bizarre to me. And the

535
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 2: fact that they just will not be so transparent about anything.

536
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: Like if you can say, y'all redlined it, she said no,

537
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: y'all redlined it, and they gave y'all back the exact

538
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: same offer.

539
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like it gets to a point where

540
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 2: you're like, Okay, you're saying no, but why show us

541
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 2: where we're losing the money? Show us if you change this,

542
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 2: where are we going to lose the like, where is

543
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 2: it going to get lost at? Where are we going

544
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 2: to have to change things? And they won't. So that's

545
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,719
Speaker 2: why everyone's like, what do y'all want, Like, y'all want

546
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 2: us to just accept this with like just blindly accepting this.

547
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 2: And I just saw some video that someone made and

548
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 2: they like do graphs of like different things in spot.

549
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 2: I love that page. Yeah, and it's so cute and

550
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 2: I love it and it's so easy to understand. And

551
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 2: he did a whole graph about the media rights deal

552
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 2: and how every how everything is going up, and he said,

553
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 2: like the NBA salaries and salary caps are going to

554
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 2: go up like forty percent or something, and then there's us.

555
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 2: It's not it's not going to go up at all

556
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 2: because we don't move with the business. So people are like,

557
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 2: y'all don't even turn a profit. Well, no, it's not

558
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 2: even about that. At this point, we're about to get

559
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 2: infused with a massive amount of money because of the

560
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 2: media deal. He said that even if everything stays the

561
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 2: exact same. Because of the media deal, the salaries are

562
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 2: going to increase. They don't have to know, they don't

563
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 2: have to make they don't have to make or lose

564
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 2: any more money differently than last season or the season before.

565
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 2: But because of the media deal, everything's gonna get boosted.

566
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 2: And then for us, it's all going to stay the same.

567
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,959
Speaker 2: And that's been the most frustrating part for me. And

568
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 2: then something else that I I mean, I've always just

569
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 2: been locked in about like health insurance and taking care

570
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 2: of retired players and things like that. But we are

571
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 2: still like very much at the tip of the iceberg

572
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 2: when it comes to CBA negotiations, guys, and uh, it's

573
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 2: gonna be a fight. It's gonna be a battle. They

574
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 2: told us that from our first meeting that we're in

575
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 2: for a crazy battle.

576
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: So the fans are tintoes behind y'all. Because when I say,

577
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you were there. But how about was that booing?

578
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: It was back on my TV, so.

579
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 2: Though we had actually left so we could beat the traffic.

580
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 2: But I heard about it. I heard about the booze.

581
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 2: But that's not surprising. They boo everybody, oh bo out

582
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 2: of silver, they bow what's his name in the NFL

583
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 2: like every Yeah.

584
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: I was my jaw was on the floor. I hadn't

585
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: seen that like that. I mean people were, I mean

586
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: people were sticking their hands up. They tried to grab

587
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,959
Speaker 1: out the TV Asian with her tambourine like this.

588
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 2: Yes, Like it's like uncomfortable because she is still a

589
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 2: person of power that you do need to respect in

590
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 2: some unders. But fans, y'all, they don't care. But again,

591
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 2: people are just like, who should be the next commissioner

592
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 2: and stop stop throwing out names about people y'all love,

593
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 2: and like, stop doing it. They don't The commissioner works

594
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 2: for the owners. So again, if y'all want to have

595
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 2: some real beef, have some beef with somebody's owners. Like

596
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 2: Mark Davis said it best. He was like, he hasn't

597
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 2: been tapped about anything really, but he wants to get

598
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 2: a deal done. Mark Davis was one of the first

599
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 2: owners to really put his money where his mouth is

600
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 2: when it comes to the aces. So if he's kind

601
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 2: of like, we're getting a deal done, I mean that

602
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 2: should make everybody feel good. But the fact that he's

603
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 2: kind of just speaking singularly is a little concerning, because

604
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 2: that means that there's owners elsewhere that are not trying to.

605
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: That's another thing I would like for them to put

606
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: up because there is a part of me that feels

607
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: like bad for Kathy. I talked to Tosh in detail

608
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: about Kathy, and so I get the feeling about Kathy,

609
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: and I don't think I can't speak to whether she's a.

610
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 2: Good person, bad person, this, that, or the third.

611
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: I don't agree with what she's doing lately at all,

612
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: but a part of me feels for her because, like

613
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: you said, she works for the owners and so in

614
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: a sense, you remember how everybody was billiing Nico Harrison

615
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: when Luca got traded. It's like though a lot of

616
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: decisions with sports teams come from us.

617
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 2: I think Nico did that himself.

618
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: No, it comes from upstairs, and somebody's always got to

619
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: be the escapegover, the face of it, and unfortunately Kathy

620
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: is that, and it just it sucks to see because

621
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: she's a woman and she climbed up in business, and

622
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: it just sucks to see that. I would like for

623
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: the owners to put up. Look, if you own a

624
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: WNBA team, this is your shot.

625
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 2: Buck up.

626
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: Let me know why you don't want.

627
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 2: To pay your players.

628
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: I'd rather you just say Hi, I'm so and so

629
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: and I own the Connecticut son xyz. I mean that

630
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: was bad example, because yeah, but you get what I'm saying,

631
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: Like I own the New York Liberty and I don't

632
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: want to pay the players period.

633
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 2: I would rather that. But y'all letting this lady she

634
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 2: up there, she is taking she's she is and for her,

635
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, like I agree with you, Like there

636
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 2: is a small small part of me that feels bad

637
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 2: for it because she is still a person, She's a

638
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 2: human being. She has a family, Like I can't imagine

639
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 2: like how her kids are feeling and her her family's feeling.

640
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 2: They probably feel horrible. But again, like this comes with

641
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 2: the territory unfortunately, But stop throwing out names guys of

642
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 2: people that are beloved in the women's basketball community, because

643
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 2: they will become the commission and you will quickly realize

644
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 2: that it does not matter. Like like I saw that,

645
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 2: I said, are you guys insane? I knew, I knew,

646
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 2: Like let her coat letter GM like, but yeah, like

647
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Speaker 2: they want they want they're like make neck of the commissioner. No, No,

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Speaker 2: I mean I don't know if that would be a

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Speaker 2: bad or good thing, but it's like, at the end

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Speaker 2: of the day, the commissioner works for the owners, so

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Speaker 2: we're never going to see completely eye of eye, but

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Speaker 2: they're some gotta give we have. I mean, the expansion

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00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 2: draft is set for December, so hopefully we can get

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00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 2: a deal done by then, or else everything's going to

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Speaker 2: get pushed back and we two more teams, more games.

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Speaker 2: I'm just really concerned for like the planning of the

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00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 2: season moving forward. Should we have a lockout and figure

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00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 2: it out later, or you know, the season has to

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00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 2: get short in and it's just like all this momentum

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Speaker 2: is just going to get completely annihilated or it's going

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Speaker 2: to push the league into another stat I was gonna say,

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Speaker 2: I don't think that that's the case.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that the moment I will be Listen,

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Speaker 1: all publicity is good publicity, y'all, y'all is gonna be

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00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: in everybody's mouth good, bad or different, ugly whatever, And

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Speaker 1: until y'all decide you're getting on that court, ain't no wbs.

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Speaker 1: So they're going That's why I don't understand about all this.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, y'all get me y'all can't. Y'all can't go

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Speaker 2: out and play for us like at the end of

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Speaker 2: the day, and other businesses, the bosses can probably do

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Speaker 2: the work that they need their employees to do. Not

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00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 2: in this case, y'all can't go lace them up and

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00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 2: go shoot threes and rebound and tunnel fit. Y'all can't

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Speaker 2: do all of that. No, And could you imagine.

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Speaker 1: Could you imagine all those people that she named that

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Speaker 1: are should be grateful blah blah blah, Caitlyn Clark, Angelis, pagebackers,

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Speaker 1: Agel Wilson.

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Speaker 2: If they're all like yeah, nah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: What them Fever fans will be at that office with

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Speaker 1: pitchforks and quit playing with the.

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Speaker 2: Quick.

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Speaker 1: Taylor will be up in the chiefs and the She's

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00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: chilling killing when Taylor's wived, and everybody will still be

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00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 1: talking about y'all. Y'all are going to become irrelevant if

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Speaker 1: you lock out.

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Speaker 2: I think the opposite, I mean, and I think that

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00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 2: the best thing about it all is, you know, in

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00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 2: twenty twenty, when we didn't get to an agreement in

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00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 2: time and had to extend like it was really Neka

690
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 2: had the greatest thing in an interview. She did. It

691
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 2: was like it was a start of something. We as

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00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 2: players believed in the products, and we believed in the

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00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 2: momentum that was going to happen. We didn't know when

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00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 2: it was going to happen, but we knew it was

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00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 2: going to happen. And now it's here, and now we

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00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 2: signed that deal in good faith that when this growth happened,

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00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 2: we would be rewarded for it. And now they're not.

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00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 2: They're not They're not doing what they said that they

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00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,479
Speaker 2: would do. But we didn't have unrivaled in twenty twenty.

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00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 2: We didn't have athletes unlimited in twenty twenty, so that

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00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 2: changes everything as well. You have more here. I will say, though,

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00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 2: there are a lot of girls that already overseas playing, Like,

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00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 2: don't y'all think that every all the w players are

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00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 2: here in the States, Like players are still very much

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00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 2: going to play overseas and play in your league and

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00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 2: stuff like that, because a lot of them, like do

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00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 2: enjoy playing and then you have this then have this

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00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 2: body and energy forever, so you might as well take

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00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 2: advantage of it. So there's a lot of basketball that

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00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 2: y'all can be watching in the wintertime. In the spring,

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00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 2: college is coming up on Rival is about to start

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00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 2: after the New year. AU starts in February, so there's

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Speaker 2: gonna be lots of basketball women's basketball for y'all to watch,

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Speaker 2: and we will be here for y'all every week at

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Speaker 2: full Circle Podcast. We love y'all and we will see

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Speaker 2: y'all next week. Hi, thanks for listening to Full Circle.

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