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Speaker 1: my husband. How honestly, when you have money, who needs love?

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Speaker 1: Who needs it? Who need money? Of you got money? Love?

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Speaker 1: All those dollar bills, those Ben Franks, her Ben frank

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Speaker 1: hundred dollars bill, one hundred dollar bill. Give him a smooch. So, I,

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Speaker 1: twenty five female, want to leave my fiance twenty six

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Speaker 1: this comes from Jaccason on the arsash Okay Storytime subrad it.

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Speaker 1: So I've been with my fiance since we were fourteen,

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Speaker 1: a total of ten and a half years at this point.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, dang, how much money did you win?

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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 1: Oh to leave a ten and a half year relationships

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Speaker 1: probably a buttload. Also welcome everyone in the why what's good?

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Speaker 1: Colley Hensley? Ben Franklin is the only man I need,

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Speaker 1: darned straight, Hallie, me too, Me too. So we have

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Speaker 1: Guess how much money they wanted the casino to leave

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Speaker 3: Money you would leave for your family, should make it

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Speaker 1: It's like ten, that's what I was taking. That's what

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Speaker 1: Kid kids fifty kids fifty. So a little background as

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Speaker 1: to why I want to leave him and his family, Well,

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Speaker 1: I grew up with him, so his family has known

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Speaker 1: so it wasn't too bad, but this is when things

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Speaker 1: And actually I've been hearing about this a lot where

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Speaker 1: But I feel like a lot of people get like

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like you have the momentum in there

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Speaker 1: Robbie says, my chat was a glitch and I couldn't comment. Well,

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Speaker 1: you're commenting right now, and Mela six eight fifteen says,

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Speaker 1: That is hard. Also, welcome Sophia.

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Speaker 1: my fiance does take care of our baby, but I

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Speaker 2: He's just playing games all twenty four hours.

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Speaker 1: Twenty hours, all these games on the side, but you're

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Speaker 2: That's kind of ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: Is it worth it? Is it?

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Speaker 2: I just can't even imagine doing that, Like twenty three

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Speaker 3: I played Minecraft for twelve hours on Saturday and I

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Speaker 1: Played from ten to ten. Oh my god, that's medication. Well, see,

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Speaker 2: You got so many, so many screens. He's going screenings

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Speaker 1: that's a real gamer if I ever heard one anyway.

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Speaker 1: So he is gaming all day, every day except to sleep.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like, he's yeah, he's completely nocturnal. Melos six

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Speaker 2: If he's got a game that much, he might as

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Speaker 1: Streamer, yeah, trying to make try to make money money off.

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Speaker 2: This feels pretty divorcey.

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Speaker 1: It feels pretty divorce he if.

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Speaker 2: He's not going to change his ways.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think we're we are nearing divorce territory

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Speaker 1: for sure. But we ended up going to a luxury

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Speaker 2: Guess having gone to Vegas.

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Speaker 1: Having gone as a person that has gone to Vegas

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Speaker 1: one time? Who took you to Vegas? My boy friend?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I remember. Friends. We ate food and walked

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Speaker 1: How much is it? How much is it? What's your guess?

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Speaker 1: What's your guess?

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Speaker 2: What are normal jackp I never gambled.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what's a normal jackpot? I mean it's a slot machine.

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Speaker 1: So the jackpots can be like like anywhere from like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's got to be it's gotta be chicken money.

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Speaker 1: You know. Mother Teresa she collected fat stacks at the

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Speaker 1: all this good. Where's my cash?

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Speaker 2: Where's my cash?

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Speaker 1: He went to everyone she helped, she took it, and she.

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Speaker 2: Took all the money that was alone. I saved your life.

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Speaker 1: Also collecting interest, give me twice the amount that Mother

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Speaker 1: Teresa was ruthless. They did help me with a lot,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry, sorry giving out that bread to get that bread.

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Speaker 1: Who snaps? I think Jesus said that he turned yet, Well,

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Speaker 1: Truthfully, I can even afford an at home nanny if

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Speaker 2: We've already had this little bit of a red flag. Okay,

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Speaker 2: No? Get out of there. They're just dead weight.

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Speaker 1: He's especially dead weight. And like, I understand there are

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the same thing of like an actual parent.

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Speaker 1: No, like like when you when you help someone, you

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Speaker 2: Can't make business transactions with children.

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Speaker 1: how much do you think she won?

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Speaker 1: She gave ten thousand each to everyone, which she's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Wiseman Hello from Facebook. Hello to you too. All right,

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Speaker 1: your freaking guesses. All right. So, for those of you wondering,

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Speaker 2: Gotcha.

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Speaker 1: I did pay off the rent for the rest of

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Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, I think you know what you're doing.

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Speaker 1: But what do you think do you think OP did

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Speaker 1: I think low contact minimum. I'm an agreement with plant

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Speaker 1: Don't think he's done anything so bad that he's wrong. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's not just Dearian Warts. It's mother's freaking Darian Roberts.

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Speaker 1: Cheryl Die says low contact, Anna Marie says low contact

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Speaker 1: for sure, Christine, low contact. I think we're all in

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Speaker 1: agreement low contact. But OPI keep at it. I hope

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Speaker 1: you're I hope you're doing okay. And Sophia, I know

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Speaker 1: you're doing okay. I know you're doing Okay, you're making

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Speaker 1: all the right decisions, but we got some donos to read.

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Speaker 1: BB Memes says, please give us our wheelspin We work

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Speaker 1: super hard.

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Speaker 2: Sarah Collins, thanks for being becoming a new member.

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Speaker 1: Also, if you haven't joined the Discord, join the Discord.

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Speaker 1: We just did an overhaul. It's gonna get even sicker

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Speaker 1: as we as we build it out. It's discord dot

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Speaker 1: pretty dope. Riley will put it in the in the chat.

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Speaker 1: Amanda Rose, thanks for the twenty dollars tip Happy Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Okayfam Also, is it tip link working? Riley should be working.

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Speaker 3: It's working for some people, but sometimes is it pinned?

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Speaker 1: It is pinned? Sick Amy, like I said the other day,

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Speaker 1: learn to run to get away from drama and having

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Speaker 1: to become a Reddit story time Yeah, don't be in

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Speaker 1: You want to share one? That's true? Wait? Can you

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Speaker 1: uh roll down? Thanks for the five bucks, Amy, scroll up.

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Speaker 1: Josephine Medolo Burquest thanks for the six fourteen. Not low

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Speaker 1: contact but moderate contact because they have child and dad

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Speaker 1: might want updates and stuff. Josephine Madola Burke quest, I think, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I agree, I think like lower contact than what they've

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Speaker 1: been doing. And Amy, thanks for the five bucks superchat.

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Speaker 1: Sam could start running and surfing training business so everyone

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Speaker 1: could get good at cardio then surf away to a

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Speaker 1: better life. You're welcome. I honestly, that sounds like a

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Speaker 1: pretty ideal life running and running.

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Speaker 2: Sam's always like, join my surfing club to run away

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Speaker 2: from your problem.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, who would join my running club here in La

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Speaker 1: if we did? If we did a running club, who

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Speaker 1: would be down? I wouldn't Well, I know you don't run.

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Speaker 3: I don't run if it's in the evening.

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Speaker 2: I refuse to run.

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Speaker 1: I'm a morning runner.

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Speaker 2: Jam's trying to take me running before night.

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Speaker 1: You ran, You did good.

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Speaker 3: Also, Lourie thanks for the dollar sticker and Lucky Cat

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Speaker 3: ten twenty becoming a member, and Mama Hn eight fifty

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Speaker 3: three becoming a member.

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Speaker 1: Members all around. Join our membership, you get private live streams.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty sick.

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Speaker 3: Hang out with us more.

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Speaker 1: But with that, I think we got another story for y'all.

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Speaker 2: We do indeed have another story.

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Speaker 1: Also, Sarah B. John is coming back Saturday. The whole

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Speaker 1: be here on Monday.

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Speaker 2: Yes, ready. My girlfriend wants an open relationship so she

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Speaker 2: can date our friends.

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Speaker 1: She just wants to spread her a little way.

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Speaker 2: Love.

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Speaker 1: Why you know, she loves your friends so much and

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Speaker 1: wants to show you she wants to spread You know,

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Speaker 1: a girlfriend that can hang out with their friends great,

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Speaker 1: a girlfriend that can f your friends even better.

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Speaker 2: I mail twenty six broke up with my girlfriend of

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Speaker 2: four years, Mary female twenty seven about a month ago

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Speaker 2: because she asked me to open our relationship. It was

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Speaker 2: slash and always will be a major line in the

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Speaker 2: sand for me, something that I have opened up to

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Speaker 2: her about in the past.

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Speaker 1: You opened up and then she opened up.

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Speaker 2: By the way, this comes from Open Throwaway nine on

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Speaker 2: the r slash Okay, story time is neverad it. We've

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Speaker 2: had a great relationship and the only thing that stands out,

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Speaker 2: and the only reason it stands out now is because

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Speaker 2: of this situation. She progressively started making a lot more

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Speaker 2: spicy sleep jokes about some of our shared friends over

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Speaker 2: the last few months. Some involves her being with them

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Speaker 2: and others were three way jokes et cetera.

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Speaker 1: Oh Man, as the Russians say, there's always a joke

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Speaker 1: in every joke.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was always a little bit of truth

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Speaker 3: in every joke.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this really makes it. It does make sense. It

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Speaker 1: does make sense. If you say there's always a lie

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Speaker 1: in every lie, what that means is there's truth in

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Speaker 1: every lie because you're lying about the lie, which means

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Speaker 1: it's truth a joke and a joke. If you're joking

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Speaker 1: about the joke, which is a true.

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Speaker 3: Well, if anyway, I'm gonna if there's a little truth

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Speaker 3: in every joke, then your thing is right.

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Speaker 1: The truth in every joke also works.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, I won't lie. I played along a little, but

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Speaker 2: I consistently made some joking response along the lines of

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Speaker 2: you're more than enough for me, and or I don't

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Speaker 2: like sharing. Never took any of it seriously, because why

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Speaker 2: would I. Until she asked and I found out Slash

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Speaker 2: realized that she was probably trying to gauge my response

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Speaker 2: and see how open I was. Mary asked when we

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Speaker 2: were getting ready for bed about a month ago, kind

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Speaker 2: of bluntly. I was scrolling on my phone and she

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Speaker 2: was getting changed, and goes, if I asked you to

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Speaker 2: open the relationship, would you, mmm, she's not a child

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Speaker 2: is changing? Would you if you had a child, open.

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Speaker 1: Your relationship, brave, brave. Oh, let's go.

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Speaker 2: This might sound super corny, but it was like I

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Speaker 2: had an out of body experience and all of the

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Speaker 2: above hit me at once. All the jokes in comments

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Speaker 2: so far made sense in a she's trying to butter

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Speaker 2: me up to the idea kind of way, and went

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Speaker 2: really numb for a second.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, that realization must have Oh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just going through all of sifting through all the

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Speaker 2: memories of the moments.

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Speaker 1: Because it's like then it's like, oh, how much of

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Speaker 1: this relationship has she'd not just been wanting me, you know,

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Speaker 1: one one one on all the tips. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: To her credit, she must have seen how freaked out

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Speaker 2: I was and asked if I was okay. I pretended

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Speaker 2: I didn't hear her and asked her to repeat herself,

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Speaker 2: and she was really hesitant to kept saying she didn't

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Speaker 2: say anything, and only repeated it when I insisted.

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Speaker 1: Red flag also right. I think that people on Facebook

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Speaker 1: were saying that the tip link is not there. Oh yeah.

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Speaker 2: Uh. Then I went to voice notes, set it to record,

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Speaker 2: and put my phone down to talk to her. I

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Speaker 2: don't remember much of it, just that I tried to

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Speaker 2: stay calm and keep her talking. But the note is

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Speaker 2: just over an hour and a half long, and it

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Speaker 2: feels like I'm listening in to a conversation that happened

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Speaker 2: between two streams.

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Speaker 1: Sang.

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Speaker 2: She trickled truth all the way through it and ultimately

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Speaker 2: struck to the idea, or stuck to the idea that

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Speaker 2: she hadn't been cheating. She didn't have any one person

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Speaker 2: in mind, but had been fantasizing about mutual friends and

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Speaker 2: people at work, and seemed to get the idea that

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Speaker 2: they'd be open to something. If she asked, well, that's

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Speaker 2: concerning if you how would you know that they're open

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Speaker 2: to it?

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Speaker 1: You said, Oh, I don't have anyone in mind except

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Speaker 1: the friends and my coworkers, and like, I think they

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Speaker 1: would be down. I don't. I mean, like I know,

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Speaker 1: I know that, but.

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Speaker 2: Trust me, trust me the been down. Yeah, that's really suspicious, suspicious.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel I feel like, how do you even

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Speaker 1: ask for an open relationship if you want one?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: What is the right way to ask for open relationship?

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Speaker 1: I wish there was like a way that we would

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Speaker 1: know that actually there is. We're doing a game show

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Speaker 1: on Monday with you answering the question how can you

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Speaker 1: effectively open up a open or open up a relationship? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: open up a close relationship. If you have ever successfully

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Speaker 1: or unsuccessfully opened up your relationship, you should submit your

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Speaker 1: story to us and we may have you on the show.

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Speaker 1: For our live game show on Monday. Riley is going

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Speaker 1: to put the link in the chat fun huh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm trying to think on it. I mean, because

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Speaker 2: like I was gonna say, oh, if you're like a

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Speaker 2: person who's into polyamory or like intomous relationships, but I

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Speaker 2: think a lot of people tend to go into the

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Speaker 2: relationship saying this is what I'm interested in. So I

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Speaker 2: don't know how you would do that if you realize it.

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Speaker 1: Like in the relationship, because because what we constantly see

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Speaker 1: is will like, well, uh, well, we'll read one of

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Speaker 1: these stories, and then what partner will be like, hey,

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Speaker 1: I kind of want an open relationship, and then everyone

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Speaker 1: will be like, oh, they definitely had someone in mind.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know how you ask for I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you uh. Triciaity says, if you don't establish

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Speaker 1: it at the beginning that you're interested in POULI, then

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Speaker 1: it sounds like an excuse to cheat mis killed it says,

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Speaker 1: you want to open relationship number one rule, no dating

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Speaker 1: people you already know, city without kid, He says, going

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Speaker 1: to ask my girlfriend to open our relationship right now,

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Speaker 1: right now. Cotton Tail says, I think it needs to

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Speaker 1: start as.

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Speaker 2: That's what I think, Like you need to start it

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Speaker 2: with the idea. But then how, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think that is true, Like I think it makes

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Speaker 1: it easier.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you can still do it.

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Speaker 1: If you're trying to do it on a hard mode.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just much harder.

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Speaker 1: Hard they are. Well, I think you have to build respect.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe you go to like a strip

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Speaker 1: club initially, and then that's how it starts. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, man, I've never done it.

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Speaker 2: But there's more so let's see if it works. Where

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Speaker 2: was I? She didn't remember A lot. A lot of

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Speaker 2: it is her being defensive in me trying to needle, oh,

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Speaker 2: needle information out of her without without it escalating into

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Speaker 2: an argument. A lot of me placating her and trying

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Speaker 2: to make her feel comfortable enough to keep talking. The

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Speaker 2: apartment is mine, and I suggested we take a break

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Speaker 2: a few nights later, so she went to stay with

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Speaker 2: a friend for the weekend. By the next Monday, I'd

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Speaker 2: spoken to some of my friends and my sister is

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Speaker 2: separately and came to the conclusion that we were done

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Speaker 2: and suggested she started looking for somewhere else to stay.

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Speaker 1: Boom.

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Speaker 2: She was upset, but didn't really argue and had the

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Speaker 2: vast majority of her stuff out and at her parents'

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Speaker 2: house by the end of the week.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so it's it's ending quick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was efficient. That was efficient. So coming to

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Speaker 2: two days ago, her mom reached out over WhatsApp to

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Speaker 2: say she was disappointed in how I handled everything. The

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Speaker 2: message wasn't really framed in a way that she was

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Speaker 2: reprimanding me, more that she wished we could have worked

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Speaker 2: it out. She then added me to a group chat

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Speaker 2: with her husband ex's stepdad, and they both kind of

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Speaker 2: tagged team me, saying that we could work it out.

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Speaker 2: I was making mistake and that I shouldn't overthink things.

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Speaker 1: I feel like this is not the kind of tag

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Speaker 1: team that Opie's girlfriend wanted.

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Speaker 2: Truly, I think it's really weird to have your parents

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Speaker 2: reach out to your partner.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, especially them.

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Speaker 2: I eventually got it out of them that my ex

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Speaker 2: had fed them a very vague story that we had

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Speaker 2: broken up because she wanted to take the next step

659
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 2: in our relationship. That is so misleading. She's like, it's

660
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 2: we're taking our next step.

661
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: We're going from company to a crowd.

662
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 2: He was company through the crowd, and that I'd freaked out,

663
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 2: we'd argued, and she'd been effectively kicked out. Her stepdad

664
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 2: was leaning on the fact that he thought I was

665
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 2: more mature.

666
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: Than this, and he doesn't know the full story, doesn't know.

667
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 2: The full story, and her mom just kept repeating how

668
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 2: disappointing this whole situation was. So I was pissed. In

669
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 2: the heat of the moment, I told him I had

670
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: the record, I had the recording of our conversation that

671
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 2: I could say that would explain what she actually meant

672
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 2: about taking the next step. Oh, I want to know

673
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,240
Speaker 2: if she knew that he was recording, because it sounded

674
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 2: like she knew that he was recording the conversation.

675
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not sure.

676
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 2: Because it sounded like he said, I got my phone

677
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 2: started a record, like he.

678
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: Could have done it sneaky like, But yeah, I'm not.

679
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: I have no idea because if she.

680
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 2: Did know, it's kind of silly of her to lie about.

681
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: Your But I think it's a little bit like even

682
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: though I feel it's a little bit whack to share

683
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: a private conversation with someone's parents, I think it is,

684
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: especially because he doesn't need to. It's not like, yeah,

685
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: there's like a like a lawsuit or they're trying to

686
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: take something away.

687
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 2: And you're you're already ending a relationship. I think perhaps

688
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 2: you could have just said, well, do you think that

689
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 2: he should have even said she wanted to open the

690
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 2: relationship and I didn't want that.

691
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 1: I think he said the record straight.

692
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he could have said that. But I

693
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 2: don't know if he needs to share the whole hour

694
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 2: and a half.

695
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: Anna Maari says, or Anna Marie says, send it, and

696
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: Miss Jaybird says, like the stream, do you even want

697
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 1: to spin that wheel?

698
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 2: Like the stream?

699
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: Also, Riley, do we have the updated link for the

700
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: discord in here? Yeah? I'm trying to fix Okay, no sweat,

701
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: I'm asking too much of Riley right now. I'm sorry, folks.

702
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 2: In the heat of the moment, I told them I

703
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 2: have the recording of her conversation that I could send

704
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 2: I initially tried to email it to them, but it

705
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 2: was being a ball ache, so I eventually shared it

706
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 2: via dry ballach ball ache.

707
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,240
Speaker 3: Oh because hour and a half.

708
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really hard. You can't just send it in

709
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 2: email unless.

710
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: You gotta send it to an editor. And yeah, put

711
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 1: it on a highlight.

712
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I initially said that. In the meantime, I took

713
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 2: a few screenshots of my x and ize messages, ones

714
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 2: where she had made jokes and comments about spicy sleep

715
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 2: with our friends and a lady from her office, and

716
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 2: sent them along to the shared group chat. Is this

717
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 2: too much?

718
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: Sending it to the group chat?

719
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 2: Sending it to her parents?

720
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,399
Speaker 1: I think so. I think it's unnecessary.

721
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 2: I just I mean, you're already leaving.

722
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 1: You're already breaking up. Who cares what her parents think

723
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: about it? You like, I think it's too much.

724
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 2: I haven't heard back since. Again, it's been two days,

725
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 2: and I don't feel as vindicated anymore. A good few

726
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 2: of my ex's comments were about other women, and I'm

727
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 2: freaking out because I don't know how, if at all

728
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 2: open she's been about her sexuality with them.

729
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 1: That is, because she's also kind of outing her too. Yeah,

730
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: I I mean like she definitely brought the you know,

731
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 1: brought the fire and he's exposing the smoke. You know, absolutely,

732
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 1: but that But I still think it's an a hole

733
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: move to you know, like if I broke up you know,

734
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 1: I I've broken up with with relationships where partners have

735
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 1: not done great things to me. Yeah, I don't go

736
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: and tell their parents this is what did remember? Like

737
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: that's that's kind of lame.

738
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think Ferris is I want to clear

739
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 2: my name, which I think you could just say you

740
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 2: text them back and say she wanted to open up

741
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 2: the relationship. I did not want and leave it at that.

742
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, it's like it's

743
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: her parents. She's gonna say whatever she wants to. Yeah,

744
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: to make you sound like the bad guy. It's like

745
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: it's like or when you when you have a breakup

746
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: and you're like you're the person that you were dating

747
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: goes and tells them that their friends, oh my god,

748
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: he's such an ashole or she's such an like an

749
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: a hole or whatever they did so and so like

750
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 1: I can't believe they broke up with me. Blah blah blah.

751
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 1: Like people are gonna say stories that make them to

752
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: be like the hero even if they're not. You don't

753
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: have control over that. So it's like, don't don't worry

754
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: about that, don't get into the drama. Let them have

755
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 1: their own world, you know.

756
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I think I think to me, the texts

757
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 2: for sure, we're too far just because it involves possibly

758
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 2: outing someone.

759
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: Don Lo Laski says, but Sam, did the ex's parents

760
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: call you? I mean, no, you're you're you're you're right,

761
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: She like they at least the difference is the parents

762
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: did call. But I don't think you need to give

763
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: all the details. You just need to say, hey, we

764
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 1: broke up. I'm sorry. There's things that I can't say

765
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: about the relationship and reasons why you even could say,

766
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: like Sophia said, maybe say she wanted to open a relationship,

767
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 1: I didn't, but to give the uh seats, I think

768
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: it is unnecessary.

769
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 2: Like we haven't even I don't know OPI hadn't even

770
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,280
Speaker 2: tried that before sending all of the information.

771
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: OPI went from like zero to one hundred.

772
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like, for for example, if OP sent

773
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 2: you know, said said what we said of I wanted

774
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 2: to open she wanted to open up the relationship and

775
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 2: then they kept harassing him. Baby, maybe at that point

776
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 2: you can send a little bit of that clip, but

777
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 2: I think going straight there is kind of unnecessary.

778
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, Contail says outing someone is not okay. You could

779
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: have just shared the part of her asking for the

780
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: open marriage if her parents were hounding him. Yeah, that

781
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: I think that's I think we agree with that.

782
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. And also I don't know he said everything at

783
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 2: the same time.

784
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: Man, I mean, I understand man being being mad and everything,

785
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 1: but yeah, a little bit an a move.

786
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 2: But there is more to this story.

787
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: Oh, I let's hit it.

788
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 2: I also think I shouldn't have engaged at all, and

789
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,240
Speaker 2: I shouldn't have felt the need to prove my innocence

790
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 2: to either of them, which is kind of what we

791
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 2: were snaps.

792
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: I think he knows self aware.

793
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 2: Think, uh, am I the a hole. I've checked him

794
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 2: with friends and over social media, and it doesn't look

795
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 2: like there has been any fallout. Also, my ex blocked

796
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 2: me a week ago before I spoke to her parents,

797
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 2: so I can't really contact her without going in person.

798
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 2: And at this point is it too late to even

799
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 2: give her a heads up or check in.

800
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: I don't think you need to check in.

801
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,760
Speaker 2: I don't. I think you should just block.

802
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 1: I think you are the ahole.

803
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 2: I think so too.

804
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: I think you are the a hole. She is definitely

805
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: the a hole too.

806
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I think you wouldn't have been the a

807
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,919
Speaker 2: hole if you had just said you, if you had

808
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 2: just said because she wanted to change of the parameters

809
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 2: of the relationship that we are great on you want

810
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:09,280
Speaker 2: to open it up like something like that, Millennia Rincon says.

811
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 2: But I agree with op. You can't just lie, like

812
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 2: I understand and Sophia's point, don't say the whole story

813
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 2: about the same time when you're angry, you just it

814
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 2: comes out. And he had every right to the truth. Yeah,

815
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just I think when a little

816
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 2: bit overboard.

817
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: I I agree, I think went a little bit overboard.

818
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, obviously he was angry, and you make, you know,

819
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 2: rash decisions in anger, but that doesn't mean that you

820
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 2: know they're always the right ones. Okay. Update to address

821
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 2: a few points I have seen in multiple comments. We

822
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 2: don't live in the US and we have no laws

823
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 2: and recording private conversations on the books. I am not

824
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 2: proud of doing it, but it wasn't illegal, and you

825
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 2: know what else is an illegal? Joining us live on

826
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 2: YouTube every week to at three pm p six centime

827
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:59,280
Speaker 2: just up our profile. Mary and I have had several mature,

828
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 2: calm conversations about what we both wanted out of this relationship.

829
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 2: Mary wasn't sure if she wanted to stay and kind

830
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,879
Speaker 2: of admitted to self sabotaging by asking about opening the relationship.

831
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 2: Mary and I are have been friends since we were eleven.

832
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 2: Her mom was my coach when I swam competitively, and

833
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 2: our friend groups and families are very close and intermingled,

834
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 2: so she was wary about what would happen if we

835
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 2: went on a break or fully broke up. I was

836
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,720
Speaker 2: not trying to punish her for being open to polyamory.

837
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think a hole.

838
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 2: I think everyone sucks in this story. M hmm, yeah

839
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 2: that is my and I also think that for the

840
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,240
Speaker 2: people you know who maybe disagree, I think Ope also

841
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 2: agrees that he went too far.

842
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and I think at least I think he's

843
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 1: self aware, which doesn't completely absolve him, but is on

844
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 1: the road to less a Holary. I agree. I think Yeah.

845
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: The best thing is like I think, honestly and probably riding.

846
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 2: This out he's realized realizing what I think, he realized

847
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,720
Speaker 2: that he did react rashly in anger.

848
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: And yeah, now on to the update for this story.

849
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: So update, Hi everyone. I want to preface this with

850
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 1: a genuine thank you. I came to this sub because

851
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 1: my mind was all out of the place yesterday, and

852
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: you all helped me clear it up a little, even

853
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 1: the people who clearly weren't trying to be helpful. Not

854
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: everyone is helpful on Reddit. As a result, on reflection,

855
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:35,240
Speaker 1: I'm not sorry for recall for recording her. Also, arase,

856
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: thanks for telling me I look haggard. I love that.

857
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 2: Uh don't even look haggard.

858
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: I don't think I look aggard, but whatever, that's fine.

859
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: The dragon Mama who knows Sam's worm is malfunctioning. Sometimes

860
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: it happens, happens to the best of us. So as

861
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: a result, on reflection, I'm not sorry for recording her.

862
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: I understand and that people don't like the idea of

863
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: being recorded by an intimate partner, especially when you have

864
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 1: an intimate conversation, and you naturally support Mary on that

865
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: front out of solidarity. But all I can say is

866
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: you do not know what Mary is like or what

867
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 1: our relationship was like either a little before she came

868
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: to therapy with me, and the incident that pushed me

869
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 1: to try and get her to come with me. Mary

870
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: texted me to pick her up a Smarties mcflurry and

871
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: on the way home from work. On the way home

872
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: from work, when I brought it home and gave it

873
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: to her, she told me she asked for a dairy

874
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 1: milk one when they don't even do there anymore, and

875
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 1: lulling her eyes at me not listening to her again,

876
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: trying to show her that she had sent, trying to

877
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: show her she had sent. Trying to show her what

878
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 1: she had sent led a fifteen minute led to a

879
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 1: fifteen minute shouting match, which resulted in her throwing her

880
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 1: ice cream at the wall and shattering my phone screen.

881
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,080
Speaker 2: Huge red flag, huge red flag.

882
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 1: Massive red flag. Honestly, that even that alone is in

883
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: a reason a reason to break up. Also, Maria mcfarlans, is,

884
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: how do you get a gifted membership? Uh? Basically, you

885
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 1: just comment hellamut like all the time, make sure you're subscribed,

886
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: make sure you have the thing to get gifted memberships

887
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: on and like, as long as you interact you you

888
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: get a higher chance of getting a gifted membership. That's

889
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 1: one incident of many. She once told me I was

890
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 1: flirting for holding the door open for a group because

891
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: they there were girls you were trying to impress.

892
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, she does not sound like a good.

893
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 1: And went on a long tirade about my male chivalry

894
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: was just a lavish and selfish way to gain attention

895
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 1: from women. Beyond her red flag, I'm not apologizing anymore

896
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: for recording her. I wouldn't have had such a visceral

897
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 1: need to defend myself if I wasn't with someone who

898
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,760
Speaker 1: kept hurting me. I made that recording because I knew

899
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 1: she would lie, and she did. But I thought she

900
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: would lie to me, not to other people, and I

901
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: wanted it strictly so I had her words there on

902
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 1: my phone should she start claiming she said anything else.

903
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, though, we didn't end

904
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: up having any of that, and we parted maturely. I

905
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 1: understand that a lot of you won't believe that was

906
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: my intention, and I'll just have to live with that.

907
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: Beyond all that, I am still sorry for sending it

908
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: to her parents as a way to get back to her.

909
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: Back at her her parents have always been very pro

910
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: LGBTQ plus, so although it wasn't right to out her,

911
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: I was massively overthinking them harming her or kicking her out.

912
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: At most exposing her interests in polyamory would have embarrassed her,

913
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: but nothing I shared would put her in any danger.

914
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 1: That being said, I saw red during that exchange and

915
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: saw this as a way to finally show people I

916
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: wasn't misremembering things. It was spiteful and vindictive, and I

917
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: can see so many different ways I could have dealt

918
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 1: with the situation more calmly, but I was angry and

919
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: I didn't do any of them. So or at least

920
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: op is admitting that.

921
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, this does color the situation.

922
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 1: And for that I am still sorry. Yeah, it color

923
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:14,280
Speaker 1: is a situation I think pretty well. Confundal Wonder says

924
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: he should have left when she started throwing things and

925
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 1: broke his mound.

926
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 2: But I think also when you're in a kind of

927
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 2: abusive relationship, it doesn't really hit you all the time.

928
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, like until the phone hits you. Yeah, I

929
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: hit you. It doesn't wow. So Sophia, I.

930
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 2: Really understand you know, you don't.

931
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: Whatever anyway, Like I said in the edit to a

932
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: previous post. I apologize to her parents. I apologize for

933
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,760
Speaker 1: getting angry, cutting them out, and for sharing private information

934
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: about their daughter to them. I fully acknowledged that I

935
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: was being spiteful and that it was a harsh escalation

936
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 1: of a response. And and Paul, what I'll call them

937
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 1: for this post, accepted it at face value, but asked

938
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 1: if I could come over for lunch this afternoon so

939
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 1: we can have an actual conversation. I think that in Paul,

940
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: is are the parents the parents of Mary. It was nice,

941
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: but really awkward too. Mary wasn't there. I apologize again,

942
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: and Paul and Anne said they were sorry for interfering

943
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: and not giving me a chance to tell my side.

944
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:18,240
Speaker 1: We both agreed we'd acted inappropriately and that going forward

945
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 1: we wouldn't involve ourselves in this topic. I think everyone's

946
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,399
Speaker 1: honestly occurving. Everyone's turning into not a holes right now. Yes,

947
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: I agree left things on relatively better terms, but I'm

948
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 1: not going to talk to them for a while. Above everything,

949
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: they are Mary's parents and they will always be in

950
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 1: her corner as parents should be, so keeping my distance

951
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: is in everyone's best interests. As for Mary, she unblocked

952
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: me late last night and let loose a tie rate

953
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 1: of angry messages. They mostly, of course, consisted of how

954
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 1: creepy and disgusting I was for recording her again. I

955
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 1: recorded her because I knew she'd lie, and all she

956
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 1: did was prove my point, to which despite still cussing

957
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 1: me out, she had no real response for. I got

958
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 1: from her and in Paul the things that are understandably

959
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: awkward after what I shared, but she still was staying

960
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 1: with them. Oh. I got from her and in Paul

961
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: that things are understandably awkward with the parents after what

962
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 1: I'd shared, but she's still staying with them for the

963
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: time being. They've not discussed it with her beyond letting

964
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 1: her know they heard the recording and know she'd lied,

965
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:23,720
Speaker 1: But there's been no indication of negative consequences, which is good. Yeah.

966
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:28,280
Speaker 1: Our pieceis I love you, guys, channel, I love you too,

967
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: And that's it. I'm reeling from four years of relationship,

968
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 1: being over of my girlfriend and best friend using my

969
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 1: own trauma as a way to make me break up

970
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: with her, and then pretending everything was okay just to

971
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,320
Speaker 1: lie behind my back. But what is hurting me more

972
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 1: is how I only now understand from reading replies to

973
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 1: my posts and talking to my friends that I was

974
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: with yet that I was with yet another abuser. And

975
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: I am nowhere near as strong or as over what

976
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 1: has happened to me as I thought, thank you for

977
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: your help. And that's where this update ends. You know,

978
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: OP was in a bad situation but got out of it.

979
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 2: Got out of it. And I also didn't think that

980
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 2: the recording was the issue even in the beginning.

981
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: It was the sharing with a parent.

982
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think I think everyone the story seems

983
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 2: like they am be said's Mary.

984
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's Mary has redeemed themselves as I would say.

985
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: So also ready for this next one? Oh oh, I

986
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 1: forbid my boyfriend's family from seeing our kid, but my

987
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: boyfriend didn't back me up.

988
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 2: Got a back her up, back.

989
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 1: That booty up. I twenty five female and my ex

990
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: Dave twenty six male, fake name have a four month

991
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 1: old son. He just made four months a couple days ago. Oh,

992
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 1: Dave has always been a non chollant person. Dave's chill.

993
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 1: Sometimes the most chill people are the worst. Also, this

994
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 1: comes from kick al Ad four eight zero one on

995
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 1: the r slash. Okay, story times. I'll read it. Days

996
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: you came about when I was around seven months pregnant.

997
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,919
Speaker 1: When I expressed to him and his family regarding our

998
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:10,879
Speaker 1: child some boundaries. His mom did not like that. She said,

999
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 1: if I had boundaries, then she will want nothing to

1000
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: do with our child, as they have cut off another

1001
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: family member that expressed boundaries. I either want all of

1002
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 1: it or none of it.

1003
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 2: I want you without boundaries. I want no borders.

1004
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 1: I want complete access to every aspect of your life.

1005
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,320
Speaker 2: I want baby without borders.

1006
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 1: Baby without borders. Sophia told me about this clowns without

1007
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: Borders things they're just making without borders everything.

1008
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, my teacher, my clowning professor, was part of this

1009
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 2: thing called Clowns without Borders. They went around laugh.

1010
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: They need a laugh. My parents and both sets of

1011
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: my grandparents are deceased, as well as my family lists

1012
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: four hours away from where we are, So I changed

1013
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: my mind on my boundaries to make sure our child

1014
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: had an extended family. What are they doing that's so bad?

1015
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 1: I want to know?

1016
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1017
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:05,800
Speaker 1: What what? Our son ended up being premature and he

1018
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: had to spend some time in the Nicee you, which

1019
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:13,240
Speaker 1: is the natal intensive care unit. Ever since ever since

1020
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 1: our son, Ever since our son has come home, I've

1021
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: been riddled with first time mom anxieties. And I've also

1022
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: been diagnosed with postpartum depression and anxiety. Oh, I've been

1023
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 1: dealing with it on my own in therapy and therapy,

1024
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 1: I realized I need boundaries in order to heal properly.

1025
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 1: I mean, like you need boundaries in order to just

1026
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 1: be a function. At one point in time, I put

1027
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:41,320
Speaker 1: a note on the door to stop people from popping

1028
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,760
Speaker 1: up and knocking him, because at the time, knocking woke

1029
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 1: the baby up. I noticed the note was gone, and

1030
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: I thought the wind took it down. Nope, it was

1031
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 1: my ex because he wasn't going to stop his family

1032
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:57,919
Speaker 1: from coming by to see the baby when they could.

1033
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 2: Oh wait, wait, wait, okay, So he put up a

1034
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 2: sign that said, like sleeping or whatever.

1035
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, please don't knock. Yeah, And the husband's like, ah,

1036
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 1: I think that.

1037
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 2: Baby can be that baby getting here a knock.

1038
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, knock that baby knocked that baby. Give

1039
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: it a little shake while you're at it. Yeah. I

1040
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: don't feel like that husband is not realizing what would

1041
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 1: be best for the chick if.

1042
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 2: He wants everyone to knock on the door. Then he

1043
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 2: has to deal with that baby crime.

1044
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 1: Punishment fits the crime. Thankfully, the popping stops sooner than

1045
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: I expected, so I let it go. It really started

1046
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 1: when our son was around two months old. He had

1047
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: a cold that lasted for a month, and for that

1048
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 1: month he was in between doctor's visits and home. I was,

1049
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:50,399
Speaker 1: and still am, the only person taking our son to

1050
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 1: his appointment.

1051
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 2: What is the point of Dave?

1052
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 3: Then?

1053
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:55,399
Speaker 1: Dave is just so nonchalant and chick.

1054
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:56,879
Speaker 2: He's just so freaking chill.

1055
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: He's just freaking chill, you know, like you chill a dad.

1056
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 1: You don't need a husband, you don't need a caretaker,

1057
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 1: you just need chill. Ask still, Dave, bro knock back

1058
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: a few beers, just say suck babebe Dave.

1059
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 2: He walks in, he goes, hey, it's.

1060
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 1: Dave, and then he has finger guns at the baby

1061
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:22,720
Speaker 1: and he's like, who's your daddy? Video games all day?

1062
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 1: I asked Dave to come with me a couple times,

1063
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:29,240
Speaker 1: multiple times, but he always had an excuse. I only

1064
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 1: took our oh, I only took our baby out when

1065
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: absolutely necessary, but most of the time he stayed home.

1066
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: At some point in time, my exes mom wanted to

1067
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 1: take our son to church and asked me and Dave.

1068
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 1: Dave said he didn't mind.

1069
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 2: Dave doesn't mind anything. He's so non chalant.

1070
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 1: I said no. He accused me of getting in the

1071
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: way of his mom's bonding time with our son, and

1072
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: I told him I don't want him to go to

1073
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: church because one he is sick, and two he's only

1074
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 1: two months old and being around a crowd of people

1075
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 1: is not good for him right now, at least in

1076
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 1: my opinion. And three, he's sick.

1077
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 2: He's sick.

1078
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: Let the baby sleep, Jesus. Dave said it would only

1079
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:11,280
Speaker 1: be for a couple hours and it wouldn't hurt him. Again,

1080
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 1: said no, And it upset him and his mom, but

1081
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 1: they got over it. I think this is just the

1082
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:18,280
Speaker 1: beginning of the storm.

1083
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's bubblin, Bubblin bubblin.

1084
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:27,359
Speaker 1: Also, apparently for the second story, there's an update else

1085
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: should we get that second update? Well, well we'll hit

1086
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: that update. Thanks for telling us, man. I hate coughing

1087
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,760
Speaker 1: all the time. I got I got sick in Paris

1088
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 1: and now I'm now I'm sick. Yeah fine, I just

1089
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 1: keep coughing though. Anyway, it is again said no. It

1090
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,399
Speaker 1: upset him and his mom, but they got over it.

1091
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 1: I expressed to him they needed a two yes system,

1092
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 1: and if either one of us said no, the answer

1093
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,879
Speaker 1: is no. No matter who said yes initially, it would

1094
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 1: be a no. Dave told me his mom raised four

1095
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: children as well as taking care of many babies, so

1096
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 1: I just need to trust her.

1097
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 2: Oh my god, he's such a mom a's boy. He's

1098
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 2: like ool, My mom actually knows everything. Well, you came

1099
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 2: out pretty bad, so.

1100
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 1: You have pretty bad, Dave. Your chill is frick, but

1101
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: you came out pretty bad. On Mother's Day twenty twenty four,

1102
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:30,839
Speaker 1: his mom again wanted to take him to church. I

1103
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: said that was fine, but I want to go as well,

1104
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 1: because I hadn't been to church in a while. Dave

1105
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,959
Speaker 1: looked at me like I had two heads. He again

1106
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 1: accused me of getting in the way of his mom's

1107
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 1: bonding time with our son. Wait, they're all going to

1108
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 1: go together. Isn't that what you want?

1109
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 2: It's now she's not allowed to come.

1110
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 1: I said, no, I just want to go to church. Fortunately,

1111
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: it was raining that day, so here nor I left

1112
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: the house. But the last straw for me was on

1113
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 1: the day our son got his four months shot. I

1114
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 1: noticed something about him, but I couldn't put my finger

1115
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 1: on it. He was really sleepy, not too hungry, but

1116
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 1: I took it. As you know, he got shots today.

1117
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 1: At some point in time, after I fed him, it

1118
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: all came up and he started choking. Our son had

1119
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: choked on gas bubbles the day before, and once again

1120
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 1: I found myself in a frenzy to get him to

1121
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 1: breathe and calm down. I did not get the chance

1122
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 1: to text Stave about the situation because as soon as

1123
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: I got our son calmed down, he walked in the

1124
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: door with his sister behind him. Our son was calm,

1125
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: and I figured she was there to visit him, so

1126
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 1: I gave him to her. She said they were going

1127
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: to take him for a couple of hours.

1128
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 2: He's not a doll.

1129
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: I was taken aback because no one asked me, not

1130
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 1: even Dave, what happened to the two yes system gone.

1131
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 1: I had extended the olive branch myself multiple times prior

1132
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: to this, but they didn't take my offers, and I

1133
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: was pissed.

1134
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 2: I'm pissed, and.

1135
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: I got even more pissed as dag Dave hung our

1136
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: son's diaper bag over my head as I tried to

1137
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 1: reach for it to give it to his sister.

1138
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 2: What kind of high school bully.

1139
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 1: You can't get it. You can't get it, you can't

1140
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: see what's over here.

1141
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 2: Monkey in the middle.

1142
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, sis, go along, passes it, she catches it. He says,

1143
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 1: I'm running. You're never gonna get.

1144
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 2: I've got it. I'm going for the gold.

1145
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 1: And she won Golden Olympics France, Paris. I was pissed,

1146
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 1: and I even got more pissed as Dave hung our

1147
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 1: son's diaper bag over my head as I tried to

1148
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 1: reach for it to give to his sister. He tried

1149
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 1: to give her his car seat, but I ripped it

1150
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 1: out of his hands and yelled at him. I told

1151
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: him of the issue of her son, and he shrugged

1152
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 1: me off, saying, it's only for a couple hours, and

1153
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 1: babies are gonna throw up and choke. It's normal. A

1154
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 1: you know, I'm Dave. I don't worry.

1155
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 2: Bad, don't worm abousewere babies they throw up?

1156
00:58:59,080 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: Choke?

1157
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 2: Good?

1158
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 1: He started in blue, some baby baby's blue, big yellow.

1159
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 1: Who kids, I'm day, I'm chill day, He goes, I'm

1160
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 1: day live a little sis. He tried to give her

1161
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 1: his gar seat, but I ripped out of his hand.

1162
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 1: His mom came inside afterwards to have a go at me,

1163
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 1: but ultimately she and his sister left, wanting nothing to

1164
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 1: do with our son and me. I said, good riddance,

1165
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 1: good get him out of there. By the way, you

1166
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 1: can join us live on YouTube every weekday at three

1167
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 1: pm PST. Just tap a profile, don't say good ridden

1168
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 1: to us. My ex was extremely pissed at me, my exo.

1169
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:45,919
Speaker 1: I asked him so many questions, but all he could

1170
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:48,959
Speaker 1: do is murmur and give one word of answers. Dave,

1171
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 1: I'm just Dave. I'm Dave, I'm Dave. I'm chill chill on.

1172
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 1: He told me I do too much. I told him

1173
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 1: I cannot be with someone that I cannot trust to

1174
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 1: protect me from his family and listen to me as

1175
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 1: his son's mother. So I broke up with him that night.

1176
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 1: Efficient question for chat There's a little bit more to

1177
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 1: the story, But do you think it is worth breaking

1178
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 1: up at this point? Do you think he deserves it

1179
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 1: divorce or not?

1180
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 2: I think so because it is her child's health on

1181
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 2: the line and safety, and he is constantly disrespecting the

1182
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 2: boundaries that she's trying to put in place, and at

1183
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 2: that point he's a liability.

1184
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 1: Courtney Robinson Lasaul says, yes, so gring with Sophia. I

1185
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 1: think potentially, at least for me, I don't know if

1186
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 1: I would break up right at this point. What I

1187
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 1: might do is say, hey, if you don't put boundaries

1188
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 1: up again, I will break up with you.

1189
01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 2: We're done.

1190
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're dying. I would give a little bit of preamble.

1191
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 1: But Shad is saying divorce, queen procrastination, I divorce, half

1192
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 1: ears a divorce, Denise Braun, deeburg Bras.

1193
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 2: Divorce, divorce, divorced.

1194
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 1: Megan Shapiro send him backing, Davy R divorce, daya divorce, divorce. Yeah,

1195
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 1: everyone's saying divorce, blessed Dave, divorce. Oh, let's go divorce. Okay,

1196
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 1: everyone's divorce and right now. Yeah, anyway, I broke up

1197
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 1: with him that night. He doesn't talk to me unless

1198
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 1: I speaked him first. At first, I didn't. I didn't

1199
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 1: feel like an a hole because I did what I

1200
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 1: had to do to protect myself and my boundaries and

1201
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 1: also your child. Yeah, but my friends are saying I

1202
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 1: could have just let our son go and it wouldn't

1203
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 1: have hurt him. Now I'm rethinking everything. So am I

1204
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 1: the a hole for breaking up with my boyfriend for

1205
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 1: backdoring me with his family.

1206
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 2: It's not really a matter of whether or not the

1207
01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 2: kid would have been safe. The kid probably would have

1208
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 2: been fine if you went, But it's more of a

1209
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 2: matter of op did not want the kid to go,

1210
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 2: and actually.

1211
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:15,439
Speaker 1: The husband isn't respecting Ope's need for uh for for boundaries. Yeah,

1212
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 1: and so it's like, how can you have a family

1213
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 1: without putting boundaries against like people infringing on what you

1214
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 1: need to effectively run the family exactly? So I think

1215
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 1: I still think it might be a little bit premature.

1216
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 1: I mean, like, you have a kid, Like I wouldn't

1217
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 1: like just immediately jump to a divorce and they're not

1218
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 1: or I would, well, I may have a kid together,

1219
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 1: so like I wouldn't immediately jump to uh breaking up,

1220
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 1: but I would like make it in no uncertain terms.

1221
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 2: An ultimatum kind of thing, not quite an.

1222
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 1: Ultimatum, but like, hey, if if I don't see some

1223
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 1: some changes from you about you respecting the fact that

1224
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 1: we need boundaries this relationship, this relationship, it'll be impossible

1225
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 1: for me to continue the relationship. That's the only thing

1226
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 1: I would change if I was in her position. I

1227
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 1: think Jessica Kane says emotions are high, and I think

1228
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 1: when emotions are high, I wouldn't like break I wouldn't

1229
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 1: break up on the spot because what I think happened

1230
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 1: is I broke up with him that night. Especially for

1231
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 1: a relationship where you have a kid, don't make any

1232
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 1: rash decisions. Don't make like, don't break up that night.

1233
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 1: Give yourself some time to think about what are the

1234
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 1: repercussions and if you really want to have a child

1235
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 1: when you have a child, because you are making a

1236
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:47,919
Speaker 1: decision that is is like that will change the rest

1237
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 1: of your life and change your your child's life. So

1238
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 1: I'm not saying don't break up, but what I am

1239
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 1: saying is, don't break up in an emotional state, really

1240
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 1: think about out it and then and then maybe break up.

1241
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 1: So yeah,