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Speaker 1: Revere, Revere Dalks. We're going to smell tip to tip.

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Speaker 1: This is all life, this is our passion. I'm look Thomas.

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Speaker 1: I'm this this morning combat.

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Speaker 2: Hey, it's time for morning combat. The Seahawks are the

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl champions, and all is right with the world.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for joining me.

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Speaker 2: I greatly appreciate it. Here on this ninth of February

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. My name is Luke Thomas. I'm nearly

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Speaker 2: one half of your hosting duo. I join you from

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Speaker 2: the capital of the status of news right here in Washington,

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Speaker 2: DC with my Connecticut brethren with the ZB hat on.

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Speaker 3: Listen to this guy and I had to switch it up.

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Speaker 3: This is a better look for me. Just like Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 2: You're a whore for merch.

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Speaker 3: We see that. That's right, A mile less up.

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Speaker 4: Not just the hat, but like a couple of shirts

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Speaker 4: as well. On zoopo one, I was there. That's what

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Speaker 4: the shirt says.

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Speaker 2: I was there. If that makes you happy, God bless him.

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Speaker 2: Die the sub zero to my scorpion. It's the iceman himself.

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Speaker 2: Chuckman and Hole.

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Speaker 3: What's up, Chuck? How are you? I noticed a little

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Speaker 3: pep in your step there, Luke.

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Speaker 2: I'm guessing that the Patriots seeing the Patriots misery and

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Speaker 2: their fans kind of suffer through something, this is high

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Speaker 2: excitement for you. You know what's kind of funny is

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Speaker 2: the Patriots fan base is they're right up there with

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Speaker 2: the Bills and meaning the worst fan base in all

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Speaker 2: of pro sports. But the different the difference is the

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Speaker 2: Bills are long suffering, obviously, but the Patriots have won

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Speaker 2: so much and they're so arrogant about it. And the

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Speaker 2: worst part is as the season got better for the Patriots,

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Speaker 2: the folks who for some reason have it out for

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Speaker 2: Jade and Daniels were constantly chirping at me about like, oh,

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Speaker 2: you see how much.

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Speaker 3: Better Drake May is doing. You see much better Drake

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Speaker 3: May is doing.

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Speaker 2: And I don't even have anything against Drake May other

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Speaker 2: than his boosters were just constantly annoying me about it.

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Speaker 2: So to watch him get cut to fish bait yesterday

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Speaker 2: by the Seahawks pass rush Lah, it was such a

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Speaker 2: wonderful moment.

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Speaker 4: And now he's like Jayden Daniels in the sense that

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Speaker 4: everybody's like, yeah, he was never good to begin with.

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Speaker 4: You know, It's like it's just like the fight game

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Speaker 4: is it. It's like, oh exposed, they were never They're

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Speaker 4: one of the worst teams to ever make the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: All the all the stuff I'm reading today, I'm like, man,

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Speaker 4: we just revised history by the week here.

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Speaker 3: Where did you watch the Super Bowl? How did you

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Speaker 3: How did you enjoy the game?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 4: There was there was a there's a guy in town

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Speaker 4: who hosts a like a small Super Bowl party every year,

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Speaker 4: and so we gathered over. It's so cold out there, dude,

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Speaker 4: even to walk a little bit through his driveway to inside.

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Speaker 4: I was like, I was, I was having regrets. Man,

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Speaker 4: it was it was so cold. It was like it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, So we so we my wife wanted to

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Speaker 2: see a concert in Philly this past weekend. So we

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Speaker 2: then we came back pretty early yesterday. We were back

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Speaker 3: Dude. It was like people were asking me like, oh,

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Speaker 3: how did you enjoy Philly.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, well, inside of the places that we went

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Speaker 2: to were quite nice, but it was so painfully cold,

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Speaker 2: I saw there was another place, like I was kind

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Speaker 3: Yeah, dude. By the time we got there, we were

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Speaker 2: So we got back here yesterday and my wife and

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl here at home. I have to ask, did

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Speaker 2: you watch the Kid Rock Hard R N Words Spectacular

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Speaker 3: Which one did you watch?

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Speaker 4: Did the Bad Bunny one? And you know, I live

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Speaker 4: but there were a couple of people in this audience

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Speaker 7: It was.

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Speaker 4: It was quite the spectacle, man, all those people just

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Speaker 4: as bushes. I mean, that's like, uh, that's other level

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Speaker 4: stuff right there. But we did have another TV and

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Speaker 4: they put the the kid rock thing on that that

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Speaker 4: looked like that looked terrible.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, which one mean they look out? Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 3: come on in my house? What do you think?

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Speaker 1: I mean?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 2: It was a bad Buddy strictacular up in this place.

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Speaker 2: But you know, people were like, oh that I saw

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Speaker 2: Dan Lebottard. He's like, that's the most sustained the Latin

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Speaker 2: American thing ever in the history of American television. I'm like, Buddy,

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Speaker 2: that's every day in my house. You understand Latin people

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Speaker 2: dancing and singing and celebrating where they're from two to.

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Speaker 3: Seven and the top. What was he saying then?

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Speaker 4: I mean for all the people who are like I

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Speaker 3: Only because I've studied the lyrics.

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Speaker 2: Even his Spanish is like really hard for me to get, Like,

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Speaker 2: it's very, very difficult to understand. Let's bring in the

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Speaker 2: third member of the show here, Long Island, Long Island,

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Speaker 2: how did you enjoy the Super Bowl this past weekend?

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Speaker 8: I mean, besides most of my bets losing and I

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Speaker 8: had a time. I watched the bed Bunny performance. My

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Speaker 8: But I didn't even know this other kid rock thing

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Speaker 8: seeing everyone like, you know, just talking about the bed Buddy.

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Speaker 3: That tells me you're not into the hard r of

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Speaker 3: the N word. That's what that? No, I mean, yes,

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Speaker 3: I would say I'm not a fan of that, thank

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Speaker 3: you very much. What was thes what? What was the

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Speaker 3: biggest bet that you won or lost over the weekend.

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Speaker 8: Biggest bet I won was the patri ra Patriots Seahawks

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Speaker 8: defense scoring a touchdown at like plus six fifty.

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Speaker 3: Good bet. Nice.

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Speaker 8: UFC wise did pretty terrible again second straight week. You know,

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Speaker 7: But you know, shit happen, Chuck.

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Speaker 2: I'll say this, I don't bet a lot just because

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Speaker 2: It just doesn't it's not a lot necessarily for me personally,

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Speaker 2: but it's just so humbling because you'll have these weeks

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Speaker 3: You can't get one of them right, And I just can't.

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Speaker 4: Deal with that kind of It feels like the cosmos

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Speaker 4: are conspiring against you when you lose like stuff again

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Speaker 4: and again, like where you have that streak where you

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Speaker 4: cannot hit anything, and anything that can go wrong does

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Speaker 3: No, I don't need to go through that anymore. Man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm too old for that. Let's set the tone

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Speaker 2: here very quickly. Obviously, we're going to be reacting to

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Speaker 2: the UFC fighting at Bautista versus Olavera card as well

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Speaker 2: as the PFL in Dubai card, which had some interesting moments.

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Speaker 2: Let's also remind everyone we do have new merch and

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Speaker 2: in fact, at Morningcombat Dot Shop. This is the February

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, man, all right? Topic number one. Let's start

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Speaker 2: with the UFC Fight Night.

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Speaker 3: Over the weekend.

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Speaker 2: Mario Bautista basically dominated Vinicius Olivera in the main event

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Speaker 2: of Saturday's Apex based Fight Night. In fact, Bautista even

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Speaker 2: It ended up being revealed Chuck that Olivera we knew

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Speaker 3: I broke my arm.

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Speaker 2: Fifty one days ago. There wasn't much I could do,

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Speaker 2: We trained with my arm in a cast. It was

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Speaker 2: know if there was any weird betting lines that materialized

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Speaker 3: A situation like this. So let me ask the question.

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Speaker 2: Was this a case of Bautista being like legitimately levels

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Speaker 2: so compromised he probably shouldn't have even been in this fight.

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Speaker 3: At all. Well, I think it's a bit of both, Luke.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, like watching that fight, there were some moments within

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Speaker 3: A bad day.

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Speaker 4: of those things that you opted to go through with

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Speaker 3: Essentially.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like in this particular case, I'm not of the

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Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like I can, I can concede that.

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Speaker 2: as such. There's no more going back and being like,

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Speaker 2: well I was injured, Well okay, great, but you accepted

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Speaker 2: the fight. Who cares and he's talking about it was

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Speaker 3: He was injured.

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Speaker 2: And if you don't realize this, if your arm is

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Speaker 2: if it doesn't heal right, can affect it so like

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Speaker 2: fight was almost for him. Based on what he is saying,

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Speaker 2: I actually have like a reasonable shot at winning. We

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Speaker 2: Luke of Bautista talking about how he was injured heading

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Speaker 3: He doesn't want to hear any excuses.

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Speaker 7: She has said afterwards that he actually broke his arm

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Speaker 6: I you know, leading into my Patchy fight, I popped

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Speaker 3: You can kind of see it right there.

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Speaker 6: And I still beat the shit out of him. So

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Speaker 6: I don't I don't care if your excuses, you know,

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Speaker 6: But yeah, it's all it's all part of the show.

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Speaker 6: You train hard, you had tough camp, easy fight. That

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Speaker 6: And it was it was that game plan as well.

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Speaker 6: You know, I didn't expect for him to initiate the wrestling.

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Speaker 6: That's kind of I think, a bad game plan on

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Speaker 6: I wasn't sure if he was. He was messing around,

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Speaker 6: and that's kind of what he did. But it was

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Speaker 2: There's just these guys, dude, there are grizzled veterans, and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I mean we've seen Batista show up and fights.

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Speaker 4: I think people thought he was going to lose and

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Speaker 4: But you know, even when he through, I think it

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Speaker 4: sure that that's you know, one or two of those kicks.

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Speaker 4: There might have been where he started to lose his wind.

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Speaker 3: Here.

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Speaker 4: This if we could talk about like sometimes they do

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Bautista thirty two. That final sequence was incredible. He

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Speaker 2: it just like that what I mean to dud Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's all connected. And if you're an Umar number Gamadov

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Speaker 2: number Gamadov. That's one of the very very best guys

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Speaker 2: who are lights out going into a fight, Like listen

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Speaker 2: to your point, not being able to take the kicks,

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Speaker 2: so you're just opening up so then your body just

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Speaker 2: we know the story about fighter pay. Some of these

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Speaker 2: felt like, hey, if I say, if I pull out

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Speaker 2: event slot, I won't get another one. And those are

436
00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:07,840
Speaker 2: all risks that you have to weigh. Again, no one

437
00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:11,920
Speaker 2: competes without some of these difficulty factors being weighed. But

438
00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,080
Speaker 2: at the same time, if you show up and you

439
00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,400
Speaker 2: barely make weight and you're huffing wind in the first

440
00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,000
Speaker 2: and then you get thrashed ultimately in the second giving

441
00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:23,000
Speaker 2: up five takedowns. By the way, to Mario Aboutista, like

442
00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,280
Speaker 2: what is the impressiveness of.

443
00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:26,760
Speaker 3: The showing that you did there?

444
00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,240
Speaker 7: Like everyone knows you're tough, Now do you do more

445
00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,320
Speaker 7: damage backing out of a fight?

446
00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:33,280
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

447
00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,840
Speaker 4: And like losing your main event spot or having that

448
00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,080
Speaker 4: kind of showing, because that's what it comes down to that.

449
00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:40,160
Speaker 3: It wasn't a good look.

450
00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,720
Speaker 4: But I do think you know, ultimately in this game,

451
00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:44,879
Speaker 4: you plant the seed, you say, like, hey man, I

452
00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,600
Speaker 4: was compromised and you hope that that asterisk is there

453
00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,159
Speaker 4: enough for the matchmakers. And honestly, though, he's got a

454
00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:52,960
Speaker 4: lot to prove now, right, Like he's got it, Like

455
00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:54,680
Speaker 4: the next time in there, if he gets through a

456
00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:58,320
Speaker 4: healthy camp, it'd be very interesting to see how he looks.

457
00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:00,800
Speaker 2: Also, it's kind of fun for me to see that,

458
00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:05,639
Speaker 2: like they keep matching him up Bautista with either guys

459
00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,679
Speaker 2: that the fans really like or that there's a lot

460
00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,840
Speaker 2: of intrigue around. So, like, I'm not sure if Umar

461
00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:11,520
Speaker 2: is a fan favorite, but obviously there's a lot of

462
00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,520
Speaker 2: intrigue around him. But you know, lok Dog is certainly

463
00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,040
Speaker 2: one of the guys that's kind of been a fan

464
00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,240
Speaker 2: favorite Aldo and it didn't work out in the Aldo fight,

465
00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,399
Speaker 2: as we all know, But I don't know, it seems

466
00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,720
Speaker 2: to me like win or lose, Bautista is kind of

467
00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:26,840
Speaker 2: slowly showing everyone, Okay, the Aldo fight might not have

468
00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:31,359
Speaker 2: been exciting, but the dude's world class. You can like

469
00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,800
Speaker 2: that fact or you can hate that fact, but he's

470
00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:34,520
Speaker 2: world class.

471
00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:35,359
Speaker 9: All the more.

472
00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,200
Speaker 3: Reason that if you're gonna go up against.

473
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Speaker 2: Him, you need to be in the kind of condition

474
00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:44,280
Speaker 2: that you can have a twenty five minute effort against

475
00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:48,520
Speaker 2: a world class opponent, and Olavera was well short of that.

476
00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:49,720
Speaker 3: Ultimately, in the.

477
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Speaker 4: End, you're mentioning the interesting people he's been matched up with,

478
00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:54,960
Speaker 4: and it is kind of a a for a guy

479
00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,680
Speaker 4: who's been in some high profile fights in that division.

480
00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,040
Speaker 4: I feel like he's a little under the radar. And

481
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,160
Speaker 4: that's always a strange thing for me too. That's why

482
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,800
Speaker 4: a main event of this type, you know, serves him

483
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:07,440
Speaker 4: and works in his favor. But he did want He

484
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 4: calls out Corey Sandhagen, right, and they fought in twenty nineteen.

485
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,920
Speaker 4: What do you think about that? Because I was thinking

486
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,639
Speaker 4: about that. I actually remember that fight fairly well. It

487
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,520
Speaker 4: just seemed like at that time, they're both in their

488
00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,720
Speaker 4: mid twenties, this is a pre pandemic, and it felt

489
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,160
Speaker 4: like he was just you know, drinking from the from

490
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 4: the you know, the fire hose, a little bit like

491
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:27,920
Speaker 4: he was a little overwhelmed. I remember he caught like

492
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,480
Speaker 4: a flying knee in that fight, and he tried to

493
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,960
Speaker 4: slam sand Haagan down at one point and ended up

494
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:34,880
Speaker 4: like almost in a triangle where he was fighting out

495
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Speaker 4: of that. It just seemed like he was in deep

496
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:41,159
Speaker 4: water in multiple situations in that first round, but I

497
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,200
Speaker 4: just see a whole different fight plan. I think it'd

498
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Speaker 4: be fascinating to see that matchup.

499
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Speaker 3: Now we have video of him making this call out.

500
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Speaker 2: Let's take a look at all react congratulations.

501
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 3: I don't know if you saw, but song it Dong

502
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 3: tweeted at you called you out? You see that? Who

503
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 3: was that song? You Dong? Song you Dong?

504
00:21:59,760 --> 00:21:59,920
Speaker 5: Nah?

505
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 6: I want to fight san Hagen? Yeah, song you don

506
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 6: can just sit on that loss for a little bit.

507
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 2: And then sand Hagen sitting at four, Bautista at nine.

508
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 2: Although you would imagine this will probably bump him up

509
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,680
Speaker 2: here a little bit, probably closer to him. Now there's

510
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 2: still Song of Dong sitting at five. As I indicated,

511
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 2: Amon's a hobby sitting at six, and the figuredo at seven,

512
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 2: so it's not exactly clear if that's going to happen.

513
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 3: I'll just say this, I in a vacuum like.

514
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,399
Speaker 2: The idea of san Haagen Bautista two, I do, but

515
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 2: I don't like it taking precedence over the idea of

516
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:36,360
Speaker 2: Sean O'Malley versus.

517
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Speaker 3: Cory san Haagen.

518
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Speaker 2: To me, that's one of those fights that really but

519
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 2: that's Cory Sanhagen versus Sean O'Malley, to me, is one

520
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 2: of the very best non title bantamweight fights you can make, period,

521
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 2: and if there's an opportunity to make something like that,

522
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 2: I think that they should. However, if they're not considering

523
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 2: that for whatever reason, they've got another plan with O'Malley,

524
00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,359
Speaker 2: maybe a pyotr Yan rematch Chuck, then yes, I would

525
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:01,200
Speaker 2: be totally okay with it.

526
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:01,440
Speaker 3: Sure.

527
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you mentioned Za Hobby, maybe that's the kind

528
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,639
Speaker 4: of fight that you do, because what right now, I

529
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,160
Speaker 4: don't believe they've booked Za Hobby right and he's above

530
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 4: him in the rankings, that might something like that might

531
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 4: make sense. I don't know about Davis and Figuredo, just

532
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 4: given that he's a little bit on a downslope at

533
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 4: the moment, so I don't know if that fight makes sense.

534
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 4: But I think it's cool that you know, we're having

535
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,400
Speaker 4: a discussion about who Mario batisza, because I always felt

536
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 4: like he's one of those guys who's on the outside

537
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 4: looking in for the guys at the top of the

538
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:33,159
Speaker 4: division who were matchmaking with and I think after the

539
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 4: performance like that, man, you can plug him in against

540
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,159
Speaker 4: a few of these guys who are above him in

541
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,959
Speaker 4: the rankings, and it would be a fun fight. I mean,

542
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 4: I feel like he matches up fairly well. And by

543
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 4: the way, here is this tweet from song You Dong

544
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 4: the one in reference here congratulations, enjoy the victory tonight.

545
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 4: How about some Kung pow chicken in the cows. I

546
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 4: don't again, I don't know the appetite for something like that.

547
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 3: I wouldn't hate it. I wouldn't hate it.

548
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 2: But San Haagen rematch is a little bit more thrilling

549
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 2: to me. I suppose's got some work to do.

550
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 3: I don't know.

551
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about the comin event topic number

552
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 2: two here Killji Hora Gucci gets. I mean, the UFC

553
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 2: return couldn't be going a whole lot better. He basically

554
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 2: outclassed Amir Albazi and had him out on his feet,

555
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,239
Speaker 2: well out on his feet, had him close to out

556
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 2: on his feet a number of times in that second

557
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 2: and third round on this fight night. With this win, Chuck,

558
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 2: he cannot be far from a title shot. So let's

559
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 2: talk about this. What should happen at the top of

560
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 2: flyweight after the rematch between josh Van and Pantojia or

561
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 2: for whatever reason, should they just jump the line and

562
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 2: have Hora Gucci versus Van or should they wait for

563
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 2: Hora Gucci versus Tyra in Japan. Talk to me about

564
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 2: what you saw in this victory and then what this entitles.

565
00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 3: Him to in this division.

566
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 4: If the UFC right now knew that Joshua vam is

567
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,919
Speaker 4: ready to go and we don't know Pantosia, Like, if

568
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 4: they just thought that that was gonna be up, I'd

569
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 4: be totally okay if they wanted to bump Horra Gucci

570
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,159
Speaker 4: into that spot for multiple reasons, man, because this is

571
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 4: a guy who came back and I think he was

572
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 4: kind of, you know, in his first fight back. I

573
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 4: think that he was booked to lose. I mean I

574
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 4: don't I don't remember the exact ligne on that, but

575
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 4: I don't think Hora Gucci was favored in his fight

576
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 4: by who's he for?

577
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 3: The guy's name is escaping me, Tigear, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

578
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 4: And I mean that fight looked like a trap, right,

579
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 4: like he's going to go into the situation to see

580
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 4: him come out of that with flying colors, and I

581
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 4: mean just kind of re announce himself in a way

582
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 4: that you're like Jesus, did we give this guy the

583
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 4: fair shake the first time through and you know, through

584
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 4: his journey for what seven eight years away from the UFC,

585
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 4: returning at thirty five years old. I would have no problem,

586
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 4: man with them kind of bumping him right up there.

587
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 4: But and I know that, like people have been calling

588
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 4: this the japan thing, I don't know the would the

589
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 4: Japanese want the fight between Tyra and uh and Horagucci, Like,

590
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 4: it's just to me, it's like, you've got two guys

591
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 4: who are both right there, you've never had a Japanese champion.

592
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 2: Well, if they if they want the boxing fight between

593
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 2: in a way and then Nakatani, yeah, junto Nakatani. I mean,

594
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that this is on par with that,

595
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 2: That's not my point. But I'm saying, two Japanese superstars colliding, yeah,

596
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 2: is a big deal. Maybe there's something like that.

597
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't be opposed to it.

598
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 4: I mean it would be a lot of fun to

599
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,120
Speaker 4: watch that first of all, too, because if that's who

600
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 4: was so much younger, you know that that kind of

601
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 4: fight has like a lot of uh, you know, it

602
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 4: could be a lot of fun. But dude, the whole

603
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 4: division is fun. Right now, imagining Horr Gucci against a

604
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,159
Speaker 4: very young dude like Joshua van could Get could be

605
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 4: very interesting as well, right because just Hora Gucci, you

606
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,479
Speaker 4: see how tough he is, how wily he is, uh

607
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 4: and everything that was going on in that fight. Dude,

608
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 4: he took sixteen significant strikes in this fight. This fight

609
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 4: he just had over fifteen minutes, one strike essentially per minute.

610
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 4: I mean, you know that kind of evasiveness at his

611
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 4: age and everything. And dude, I you tell me too,

612
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 4: like do you have a little bit of a like

613
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 4: a soft sideher orgould you coming back? Kind of missing

614
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 4: so much time from the UFC coming back? And when

615
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 4: he was in the UC, there was almost zero fanfare,

616
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 4: not just for him, but like for the division itself.

617
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 4: The UFC was considering shuddering it. You know, everything was

618
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 4: kind of Demetrius Johnson just wasn't really the needle mover.

619
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 3: And I was.

620
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 4: I was at UFC one eighty six in Montreal in

621
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 4: twenty fifteen and he was the main event against Demetrius.

622
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 4: That was that that fight, It wasn't the greatest card,

623
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 4: but the you remember you been to have you ever

624
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 4: been to a show in Montreal before, you know, like

625
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 4: the GSP angle, it's almost like whole mania, dude, Like

626
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 4: it's like everybody's wearing the bandanas. It was like I

627
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 4: went to multiple shows where GSP and it just was

628
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 4: like such a hotbed. But for this particular one ten

629
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 4: thousand people the turnstile, it did like one hundred thousand

630
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 4: pay per views, which is just the baseline they could

631
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 4: throw garbage on and that's what would sell back than

632
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 4: one hundred thousand, right like, and it did something like

633
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 4: six hundred and fifty thousand dollars at the gate. I mean,

634
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 4: these numbers for the UFC, even at that time were

635
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 4: just atrocious. People had left. That was that fight where

636
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 4: he kind of like tapped out at the very and

637
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 4: like the last second of that fight to Demetrius, and uh,

638
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 4: I remember feeling back then like this guy is completely

639
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 4: not appreciated. This time through, I feel like he is,

640
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 4: like some people are paying attention to him. And maybe

641
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 4: it's just that we've accepted the flyweight division kind of

642
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 4: more so than what you did back in the day.

643
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 4: But I certainly get the impression that he's kind of

644
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 4: more valued this time through.

645
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting.

646
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 2: I I have mixed feelings about, like whether it would

647
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 2: have been better to have Kyogi Horgucci stay in the

648
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 2: UFC post twenty sixteen, because remember he loses to Demetrius

649
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 2: Johnson and fifteen then he has back is back to

650
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 2: back to back wins over Chiko Kamis, who's a sort

651
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 2: of a duke RUFUS trained fighter, Neil Siri, and then

652
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 2: Ali bego Utinov.

653
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 4: That one was like eye opening because it's like, you know,

654
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 4: just to do that. It was like he just dominated

655
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 4: all three rounds of that fight.

656
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Begatino also had like anti doping issues along

657
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 2: the way too. And then he goes over to to

658
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 2: to Rise It and has great fights against Hideo Takora,

659
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 2: who was you know, sort of a big Japanese fighter

660
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 2: at that time. He beats Manel Cop, he finishes Menil Cop.

661
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 2: By the way, Shintaro ishi Watari was kind of like

662
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 2: a sort of a staple of that world.

663
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 3: Ian McCall.

664
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 2: He beats uh and then he goes on and you know,

665
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 2: beats Darian Caldwell over and then he comes back through

666
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 2: Bellator and then he has some losses too, But you know,

667
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 2: in general, I would say that like, at the time

668
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 2: in which he was competing against DJ, he was definitely

669
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 2: one of the better fighters that DJ could have fought,

670
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 2: but he was just so pre prime. You know, he

671
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 2: just wasn't even close to his best yet. And that's

672
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 2: not a knock on DJ. DJ did what he did

673
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 2: to him. Obviously, the fifth round on bar is pretty incredible,

674
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 2: but you know, he just.

675
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 3: I am, I don't know what's true.

676
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 2: Was it better for him to go back to Japan,

677
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 2: build up his kind of star base there, work on

678
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 2: his game with you know, still difficult but otherwise easier

679
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 2: matchups in general, and then come back and be a

680
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 2: better version of himself. Or would it have been better

681
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 2: for him to have just stayed the whole time? I

682
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 2: think given where Demetrius was and just given where MMA

683
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 2: was in the States at that time, that really was

684
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 2: not a bad call. It's just I hope that they

685
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 2: make use of the time.

686
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,239
Speaker 4: That we have now, right, Well, that's why, Yeah, if

687
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 4: they wanted to bump him into a title shot, you know,

688
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 4: you'd take contextually, you take all of this into account,

689
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 4: you know, like, what would he have done?

690
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 3: That's that is a question. What could he have done?

691
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 4: You know, historically there has not been a Japanese champion,

692
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 4: and we've seen a couple of guys get their shots,

693
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 4: you know, Yu Shouinacami. I remember, you know, against Anderson Silva,

694
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,479
Speaker 4: kyla Uno back in the day, against j Penn. There

695
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 4: were examples, but they didn't get it done. And you

696
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 4: look at Hora Gucci and you're almost like, if he's

697
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 4: in the division when Demetrius is gone, right the Henry

698
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 4: Sejudo kind of resurrection era there, like where like the

699
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 4: division is suddenly going to survive, and then you get

700
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 4: into the Moreno Figuredo, like that whole series where it

701
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 4: takes place. I do feel like he probably would have

702
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 4: had something to say within all of this, and it

703
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 4: would have probably played out differently. I just think he's

704
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 4: too good even if he had stayed, you know, even

705
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 4: if he'd stayed, I think he would have developed his

706
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 4: skills set enough to have.

707
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 3: Made a you know, to have made a say in

708
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 3: that whole scenario.

709
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 4: The way it played out over the years, it would

710
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 4: have been very interesting to see him against some of

711
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 4: those guys. But I am happy he's back, man, And

712
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 4: it's unusual to kind of get a guy to come

713
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 4: back and to look as good as he has, you know,

714
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 4: at his advanced stage, not that he's that old, but

715
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 4: thirty five and he's been in a lot of fights

716
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 4: to come back and look this good, like he's really

717
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 4: the contender that he was, like he seemed like he

718
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 4: could develop into that's fun.

719
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 3: Man.

720
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 2: If you look at his losses too. So he has

721
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 2: the loss to Kaya Sakora, he avenged it. He had

722
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,719
Speaker 2: the loss to Sergio Pettis, he avenged it, and then

723
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,719
Speaker 2: he had the lost Apache Mix and of course if

724
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 2: you watch that fight, it ended uping. I think like

725
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 2: forty eight forty seven, Mix dominated him, I should say

726
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 2: not dominated him, but was able to get the win

727
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 2: by basically just getting back control. And now you look

728
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 2: at it and it's like Mix is a big Bansam

729
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 2: weight and is now going to forty five. So that

730
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 2: one's kind of it's like, it's not that horr Gucci

731
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 2: is unbeatable, it's that he is a very refined version

732
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 2: of himself. Now he's still very fleet of foot. In

733
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 2: this particular fight, by the way, the counter punching against Albazi,

734
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 2: like Albosi would come over with the right and there

735
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 2: would be horror Gucci to come over on top of

736
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 2: it with the left and then catch him while he's

737
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 2: punching and then just light him on fire that way.

738
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 2: So it's not like you think, well he's but you know,

739
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 2: lights out the best flyweight. But it is the case

740
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 2: that on any night, it seems like the titles up

741
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 2: for grabs if Hora Gucci is there, right, it seems

742
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 2: like right.

743
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I mean he what was I think seven

744
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 4: takedown attempts over the course of this last fight, couldn't

745
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 4: get couldn't get it done.

746
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 3: I just feel like he's just solid, right, Like he's solid.

747
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 4: He's going to keep the fight where he wants it

748
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 4: super quick with some of his striking and just his footwork,

749
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 4: and like when you look at all of that man,

750
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,959
Speaker 4: like I was going to ask you essentially, like if

751
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 4: you put him against Joshua Van let's say that this

752
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 4: happens in the summer, who are you favoring in that fight?

753
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 4: Because I think I think Horra Gucci would just given

754
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 4: his experience and where he's at, would probably be like

755
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 4: I don't know if he'd be the betting favorite, but

756
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 4: he'd be in my mind the favorite to win that fight.

757
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 2: That's such a tough one, right, because Van is very

758
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 2: good about combination striking and then kind of like a

759
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 2: volume of offense. But at the same time he's he

760
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,479
Speaker 2: he leaves so many openings. You would just wonder if

761
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 2: a guy who's fleet to foot, who can touch and go,

762
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 2: what kind of damage could a guy like that do.

763
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 2: Plut I think his wrestling has gotten a little bit better.

764
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 2: Grappling control has gotten a little bit better as well,

765
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 2: So like there's that. I mean, it'd be a close fight,

766
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 2: it'd be a really really close fight, and I think

767
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 2: for that reason to be kind of interesting. The thing

768
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 2: is this, it's like, you know, it's so funny, right,

769
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 2: you were mentioned in Dimitris Johnson, who we lived through

770
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 2: his prime and his run in the UFC, and there's

771
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 2: some conversations about it now obviously because here comes horror

772
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 2: Gucci back again. And I just remember at the time

773
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 2: everyone being like, oh, you know, DJ is good, but

774
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 2: you know he doesn't, to your point, move the needle.

775
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 2: And now he's like a gigantic YouTuber, you know what

776
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 2: I mean, where it's like you just kind of got

777
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 2: to wait for your time to happen, and sure enough

778
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 2: he did. And now look at the results, and then

779
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 2: same thing with Horror Gucci, where it's like, was he

780
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 2: ready at twenty four for DJ back at the time,

781
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 2: maybe not, you know, but now look at him now,

782
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 2: it's a very very different situation, and it just feels

783
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 2: like if he didn't get another title shot in this

784
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 2: version of himself, the matchmakers would have failed this division

785
00:34:58,760 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 2: a little bit.

786
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 3: That's kind of how it was. It was the show

787
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 3: you did.

788
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 4: It was it was a room service divers, the ones

789
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 4: where you'd bring people on the couch and you guys

790
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 4: had the porn set up basically the yeah, and then

791
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 4: we would be having furniture yes, yeah, right, So remember

792
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 4: I was I sat in with you guys once on

793
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 4: the on the Demetrious one, and we talked about like

794
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 4: why didn't he translate? And one of the things he

795
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 4: said is like if social media had been what it

796
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 4: was when he was basically you know there, when he

797
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 4: was the guy and he had that big streak, he

798
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 4: felt like he would have one hundred percent been more celebrated.

799
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 4: But he just he felt at the time, like, you know,

800
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 4: like the platforms were different and all this stuff and

801
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 4: we just didn't see it.

802
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 3: I kind of agree with him.

803
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, because he's handled himself like

804
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 4: through social media and like you know, like you mentioned

805
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 4: podcasting and all like the things he's been doing, like

806
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 4: that is part of his personality. I think a lot

807
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 4: of him would have come out more so if that

808
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 4: was available to him back then.

809
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 3: Yeah. I I.

810
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 2: Sometimes you're yeah, thrust into the spotlight before the world

811
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 2: is ready to receive, you know. And I think it

812
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,760
Speaker 2: was something like that with hor Gucci and now Horr Gucci.

813
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 2: You showed the rankings. Put the graphic back up here

814
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 2: for just a second. Long island this who is who

815
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 2: has a fight schedule? So we've got Pantoja sitting there.

816
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 2: The thing is Manuel copp also kind of deserves the

817
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 2: title shot.

818
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

819
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 2: So, like I'm of the belief that with hor Gucci,

820
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 2: and I'm sure he's gonna move up past Albasi. So

821
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 2: let's say he moves into the sixth spot, right, you

822
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 2: still have some of these other figures out there now

823
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 2: Moreno obviously has a fight scheduled, Reyval, do you want

824
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 2: to go that direction? Unfortunately, I'll just say this, I

825
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 2: think they should do Horror Gucci versus Tyra because Cop

826
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 2: is sitting up there there's just too much of a

827
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 2: bottleneck and now there's no way to result.

828
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 7: I don't like.

829
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 3: I don't.

830
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 2: It's just a tough situation, Chuck. You just gotta have

831
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 2: them go against somebody else.

832
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 4: It's I guess it's a good problem to have, especially

833
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 4: in that division, because for the longest time it felt

834
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 4: like you had kind of two or three guys and

835
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 4: they were just switching each other out and fighting. So

836
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 4: if you've got five viable options at this point, you

837
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 4: know you could have you could have the fight. You

838
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 4: can you can redo Van Pantoji, could have copy sitting

839
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 4: in the in the wings, and you could do that fight.

840
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 3: And I think that that would be a fine way

841
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 3: to do it.

842
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 4: And if the it all comes down to Pantojia, and

843
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 4: I haven't really read too much about when his return is,

844
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 4: but if he's coming back in the summer, you know,

845
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 4: I think that that's what they should do. I think

846
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 4: that they should basically keep Purgucci busy. And if you're

847
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 4: going to do that, I think the Tyra fight makes

848
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,919
Speaker 4: a lot of sense. I want to talk about Amir

849
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 4: al Bosi for a little bit here Long Island. Luke

850
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 4: found this image or this Ai image asking why.

851
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 3: He looked so.

852
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 2: Not infirm is the word, but just didn't do a lot.

853
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 2: And here he is holding a bong. This is AI

854
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 2: obviously for folks.

855
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 7: Out there, the man's high as shit on Saturday.

856
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 3: But here's the possible You were a Long Island Luke

857
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 3: and you he just looked that way.

858
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 7: Confirmed.

859
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, al Basi to me, first of all, he has

860
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 2: a coach, Ozzie to Goulab Golf, which a lot of

861
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 2: people won't know that name, but to me, he's one

862
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 2: of the best coaches in MMA. He's like a savat

863
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 2: when it comes to particularly the wrestling side of the game,

864
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 2: although more than just that. But dude, listen to these

865
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 2: numbers from al Bazi. He landed three significant strikes in

866
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 2: round one, he landed eight significant strikes in round two,

867
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 2: and then just five. Dude, my guy was going up

868
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:24,280
Speaker 2: there in a top eight matchup and he couldn't amount

869
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 2: more than single digit output at any point. Again, partly

870
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 2: a big testament to the fleet of footness, so to

871
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 2: speak of Hora Gucci. But at the same time, oh

872
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 2: for two on takedowns in round one, oh for one

873
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 2: on takedowns in round two, oh for four on takedowns

874
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 2: in round three, Chuck, he couldn't do shit to this guy.

875
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 4: He could not do And it's always I mean, we

876
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 4: were looking at through the horror through the other lens, right,

877
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 4: like you're looking at it from horror, guche. But like

878
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 4: from that standpoint, and especially I guess if you're betting

879
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 4: on this guy, you're you're waiting on him to do anything.

880
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 4: I wonder to extent you know a guy, because what

881
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 4: did he he had like five wins. He was definitely

882
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 4: this close, you know, to like punching his ticket to

883
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 4: becoming like a you know, a contender. He loses to moreno, right,

884
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 4: and like does that Like sometimes you get a guy

885
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 4: and who turns off a loss the first one he

886
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 4: suffered a long time, sometimes the only loss, and they

887
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 4: just show up in such a diminutuly like like some

888
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 4: different from like they're not there. And I felt like

889
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 4: that was maybe maybe that was the case. It just

890
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 4: didn't seem like he was the urgency was there. It

891
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 4: seemed like he was second guessing himself a little bit.

892
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 4: It didn't look like the same guy who was kind

893
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 4: of running up the ranks to start his UFC career.

894
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 2: So it's interesting you bring that up. He won his

895
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 2: first one, two, three, four five fights. Okay, However, there's

896
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 2: something worth noting here. He beats KAYKR France in twenty

897
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 2: twenty three via split out. Yeah, kay Car France had

898
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 2: ninety nine significant strikes Alvasi just forty three against Brandon Moreno.

899
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 2: Moreno had one hundred and thirty two significant strikes, Albosi

900
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 2: just sixty three, and then Horagucci had seventy three significant

901
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 2: strikes against him Albosi just sixteen. So he's been numerically

902
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 2: outstruck in all of them. But at least in the

903
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 2: case of Moreno and France. He lost the Marina five two,

904
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 2: he was able to get at least one takedown on those.

905
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,919
Speaker 2: He couldn't get any of them against Horagucci in this one. Dude,

906
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 2: his offense is just withering. It's withering. He's able to

907
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 2: do less and less of it over time. And you

908
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 2: add to that he fought once in twenty twenty in

909
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 2: the UFC anyway, once in twenty twenty one. He did

910
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 2: fight two times in twenty twenty two, Chuck, but just

911
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 2: once in twenty twenty three, once in twenty twenty four,

912
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 2: not at all in twenty twenty five and now here's

913
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 2: his first fight in twenty twenty six. It seems to

914
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 2: me that the inactivity, and I know he's had some

915
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 2: injury and some health issues, the inactivity is decimating the

916
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 2: development of his game.

917
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 3: That's what it looks like to me. Yeah, I would

918
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 3: agree with that.

919
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 4: And it sucks for him, man, because I thought that

920
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 4: this might be a good a very good chance for him,

921
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 4: right to kind of because I fail like her, Gucci,

922
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 4: the Spotlight's kind of him. You steal the guy's juice

923
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,280
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, you're right back in that conversation,

924
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 4: and uh, it was the furthest from that, man. I mean,

925
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 4: both of those fights at the top were almost showcases

926
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 4: for the guys who won, right Like, they ended up

927
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 4: being just yeah, just straight up like guys showing how

928
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 4: good like the gap between them and they and they

929
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 4: do their fighting. So that was tough to watch, man, Honestly, Like,

930
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 4: it was fun to watch hor Gucci kind of get

931
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 4: that done, but it was tough to watch if you're

932
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 4: looking from Albosi, just given I really believed he was

933
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 4: kind of, you know, bookmarked for for a title run

934
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 4: and now he's really really behind the eight ball man,

935
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 4: he's gonna have to go on a run to even

936
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 4: get back in that conversation.

937
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 2: How old is Elbosi? Let's see, Albasi currently sits at

938
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 2: thirty two, right, thirty two. You know, i're if you're

939
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 2: hitting the reset button at thirty two at one twenty five.

940
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 4: Especially when you're looking more like holstered and you know,

941
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,919
Speaker 4: like in trepidation, like it's one thing hor Gucci's thirty five.

942
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,760
Speaker 4: But the dude has been kind of on an escalation

943
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 4: and he's actually holding a bar of his own excellently,

944
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 4: like he's just holding the bar of what he does well.

945
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 4: Whereas you look at a guy like that and I'm

946
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 4: it's a little puzzling. Like you you mentioned those striking things.

947
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 4: I guess you see it, like the discrepancy is in

948
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 4: striking and him just not pulling the trigger. But this

949
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 4: one seemed even way. This seemed way worse to me.

950
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 4: It just seemed like there was no moment like that

951
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 4: the pattern was established, and it seemed like there was

952
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 4: no moment for Albozi. There was never going to be

953
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:34,439
Speaker 4: a moment in this fight.

954
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 2: So I guess I guess the count the slight slight

955
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 2: counter to that would be he did knock down Hora

956
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 2: Gucci in round one. I believe did they count that

957
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 2: as a knockdown? Let me see, did they count that

958
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 2: as a knockdown?

959
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 3: They don't. They don't count that as a knockdown.

960
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 2: It and I know the moment you're talking about, yees, yeah, yeah,

961
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 2: it did kind of look like that. So you say, well,

962
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 2: I still I still didn't score the first round for him.

963
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 2: I still thought you at least had one moment where like, Okay,

964
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 2: well maybe there's a power versus bright thing here. Yeah,

965
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 2: but then he dude, then he got rocked, his ship

966
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 2: rocked in the second, and he got a ship rocked

967
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 2: in the third, and you're like, man, you're just there's

968
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 2: just nowhere for you to go here, there's nowhere to

969
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 2: hide in this fight.

970
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,439
Speaker 4: Fight game's so weird, man, It's like it's just so weird.

971
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 4: Like you'll see guys sometimes just fall off out of nowhere.

972
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 4: I have no idea if he's really falling off, But

973
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,240
Speaker 4: I mean, you just can't throw. You can't land sixteen

974
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 4: significant strikes over the course of a fifty, you know,

975
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 4: fifteen minute fight.

976
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 3: You just can't do that.

977
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:35,720
Speaker 2: Well unless you're at heavyweight. True, oh man, you can't

978
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 2: just which is a segue when you're here, which we'll

979
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 2: get to in just a minute, but against against a

980
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 2: top guy at twenty five and not a title shot

981
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 2: fight but kind of like, all right, who's going to

982
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 2: do a top five.

983
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 3: Thing here kind of fight?

984
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, just whose offense was more offensive to you?

985
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 4: The New England Patriots were all bozzy? Which one of

986
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 4: them offended you more?

987
00:43:58,760 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 3: Watching?

988
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 2: No, the Patriots at any point that they scored aptitude right,

989
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 2: like that was my soul. Yeah, hurt my soul. And

990
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 2: I will say though, my wife was cheering for Christian Gonzales,

991
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 2: you know, the Colombia.

992
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 3: Guy who plays He looked good, He look really.

993
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, he broke up a couple of good passes.

994
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 2: He looked real good. But yes, whenever they score him,

995
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 2: I was like, god fucking damn it, you know.

996
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was one of the Actually that you mentioned that,

997
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 4: the one of the prop bets I did have was

998
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 4: Jsnu Smith and Jigbo to catch because he's there, he's

999
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 4: the stud of the league, right like receiver For him

1000
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 4: to catch five five passes, this was just part of

1001
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 4: a parlay at minus six twenty. I just threw it

1002
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 4: on there and he only caught four, in large part

1003
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 4: because of your boy there, man, he like shut him down.

1004
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1005
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 2: His dad, by the way, Christian Gonzalz's dad is a

1006
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 2: Colombian guy, like from Columbia.

1007
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 3: He's six'.

1008
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 2: Nine i've been going To colombia for fifteen. YEARS i

1009
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,839
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1010
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 2: THERE a six' Nine native colombian, is like, YOU know

1011
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1076
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 2: when i sent the rough draft Of, THE rundown i

1077
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 2: didn't Know if chuck was gonna want to, play ball

1078
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 2: and then he. Saw it he, was, like oh, HELL

1079
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 2: yeah i want to, play BALL and i, Was, like

1080
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 2: yes let's. DO it i am not even KIDDING when i,

1081
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 2: Say this and my question is, As, Follows chuck but

1082
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 2: let me explain my reasoning for just. A second my

1083
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 2: question is, as follows SHOULD the ufc consider getting rid

1084
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 2: of the? Heavyweight DIVISION and i bring this up because

1085
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 2: of what we Saw on, saturday, night namely in The

1086
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 2: rizvon cunia Fight With jelton Almeta now kunia ends up

1087
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 2: winning a unanimous Decision Event, jelton almeida by, the way

1088
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 2: for eight. On takedowns here are his, striking numbers five,

1089
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 2: for twelve eight for, twenty one and he picture up

1090
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 2: a little bit in the third although we wifd on,

1091
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 2: four takedowns hitting eighteen. Significant strikes but it was a

1092
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 2: disaster of.

1093
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 3: A fight it.

1094
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 2: Was awful we didn't. Need it and here's the Reason

1095
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 2: why i'm asking, This, question chuck we have a disastrous

1096
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 2: situation at heavyweight where there's virtually nothing of any kind of.

1097
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 2: High Quality Tay to ivasa is still ranked is owen

1098
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 2: six in his last six and hasn't won in. Four

1099
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 2: years but the problem gets magnified when you realize they

1100
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 2: don't want To sign Francis, san ganu and they tried To,

1101
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 2: sign rico but it appears that they didn't offer him,

1102
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 2: enough money so he went to go. Box instead my

1103
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 2: question to, You, is chuck what is the point of

1104
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:44,760
Speaker 2: keeping around heavyweight if you're not developing talent that comes

1105
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 2: up to supply it from, the bottom and you're unwilling

1106
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 2: to bid on the services of the best heavyweights or

1107
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 2: at a bare minimum in the Case Of, rico verhovin

1108
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 2: a very very interesting and fun signing for as long

1109
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 2: as that. Would last but Again with Francis, sen ganu

1110
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 2: and everyone was, gonna, say well they got Sideways, with

1111
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 2: francis and, You know rico decided to go. Do boxing

1112
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 2: and my, point, is.

1113
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 3: Well then what are? We doing why are we keeping this?

1114
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 2: Division around if you cannot sign from the top down

1115
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 2: and you're unable to build from the, bottom up what is?

1116
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 3: The Point? Chuck man you did bring?

1117
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 4: This up and when was The, last, like honestly can

1118
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 4: you even recall the last really good heavyweight fight you

1119
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 4: saw IN, The oc because, IT'S like i was thinking,

1120
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 4: about THIS and i know they, probably exist but like

1121
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 4: the it seems more often than not that we.

1122
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 3: That they kind of end like this is kind of

1123
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 3: how they end.

1124
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 4: These days this, particular fight especially on the heels of

1125
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 4: the of the toybasa fight where he just couldn't even

1126
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 4: muster the strength to get up and deliver the fatal

1127
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 4: blow at the end just to kind of get.

1128
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 3: That victory to see this fight like it's, JUST it

1129
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:49,760
Speaker 3: i don't.

1130
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 4: Even know how to, explain, it man like it just

1131
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 4: it's such, a like especially IN, The apex it's just

1132
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 4: such a soul sucking moment to me because you see

1133
00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 4: how it's.

1134
00:50:58,280 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 3: Playing out there's nothing going.

1135
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 4: On On jaelton almeta looks like he'd rather, be anywhere

1136
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 4: honestly than fighting in, that fight and he's just getting

1137
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,839
Speaker 4: pushed up against. The cage the referee, is, like guys please,

1138
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 4: start moving and then he has to step in there

1139
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 4: and basically pry them apart and set it again just

1140
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 4: so it can resume back on, the cage a guy posting.

1141
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 3: Him up.

1142
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 4: This is what occurs, to, You man it's almost like

1143
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 4: back in, the day there was no, interest there or

1144
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 4: there was little interest in the feather and, the flyweights

1145
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 4: AND the ufc considered sawing. It off if you take

1146
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 4: that logic, at all and you look at the, heavyweight

1147
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 4: division particularly for the reason that you just outlined all

1148
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 4: of the excitement that they confuse, into it they're just

1149
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 4: not getting done or they have no interest in, doing

1150
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 4: that one of them being a Vendetta with Francis, and

1151
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 4: ghana who would at least add an element of the

1152
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 4: bigness of what you're trying. To achieve, there right like a.

1153
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 4: Guy returning some people might see him as the best.

1154
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 4: Heavyweight going you plug him into a situation where you

1155
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 4: got aspinall, you know and hopefully he's able to. Come

1156
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 4: back but you've got a couple of guys suddenly you're working.

1157
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 2: With something but, right now Especially with rico and just

1158
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 2: anybody that would spice Things Up, john jones they can't

1159
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 2: seem to work. Things out now he's talking about an.

1160
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 2: Arthritic hip it's not it's not an, outrageous, QUESTION man.

1161
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 2: I was, i mean when you went through this, exercise

1162
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 2: right like we were talking about ten years ago IN,

1163
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 2: the ufc like what it, looked like what did the

1164
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 2: heavyweight division look like compared? To now and when you look,

1165
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 2: at that, you Know, Ver, doom VELASQUEZ, the Jds steep

1166
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 2: a was, Still, There Arlovsky, Travis Brown, barnett hunt, you

1167
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 2: know you go down, those names, you're like any iteration

1168
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 2: of that was. Pretty good but then you get down,

1169
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 2: to like, you know, you Know maybe rothwell and over

1170
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 2: him and. Like that that's kind of where we're. At

1171
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 2: now it's like the dudes at, the top, you know you've,

1172
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 2: got blades you've Got like almeta Speedback, type burrow like

1173
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 2: those types, of guys they would have been you, know

1174
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 2: this this would have been the, fringe outs, you know

1175
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 2: outside the top ten in.

1176
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 4: Those days and, it's, just so what are? We doing

1177
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 4: we haven't built. That division there's very few. YOUNG guys

1178
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 4: i don't know if there's a single guy in that

1179
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 4: top fifteen. THAT'S below i don't know if anybody's below thirty,

1180
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 4: years old and a couple of them when you get

1181
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 4: down to like, You Know derek Lewis And, ty burrow

1182
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 4: they're in.

1183
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 3: Their forties it's JUST it's.

1184
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 4: I don't know why you, would honestly in, this form

1185
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 4: it wouldn't even hurt me if they were, like now

1186
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 4: we're just doing the way, with it would it?

1187
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 3: Bother? You, no NO well. I don't.

1188
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 2: I don't here's the thing, TO me i don't understand

1189
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 2: what the point is of keeping it around if you're

1190
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 2: not going to try to make. It, Great, right so

1191
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 2: if you want to keep, it around, because, hey listen

1192
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 2: we Don't, like francis but we know it's good, For

1193
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 2: business we'll sign them to a three. Five deal he'll

1194
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 2: fight three times and be on his way something to,

1195
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 2: you know to to to the staunch. The bleeding that's

1196
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 2: one way. To go, you know Give give rico a

1197
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 2: big signing bonus to come. Over here, you know like

1198
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 2: YOU the ufc is. Printing money it's no one can

1199
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 2: argue with a straight face that they don't have money,

1200
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 2: for it or that they're going to be out like

1201
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 2: like they're going to be outbid by, you know some

1202
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 2: other KIND of. Mma, PROMOTION now i guess If we

1203
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 2: go wants boxing money and he's gonna fight, YOU know i,

1204
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 2: Don't know usik or something.

1205
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 3: Like that, you know that's a little harder to compete with.

1206
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 2: Fair enough but at the, same time again there's other

1207
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 2: options about what they could, have done or who they,

1208
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 2: can sign or who they, can attract and that's just.

1209
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 2: Not happening and it's like if, your whole if your

1210
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 2: whole reason For letting verhooven walk is that you, underbid

1211
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 2: him you're not willing To sign francis presumably when he,

1212
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 2: becomes available.

1213
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 3: Then what are?

1214
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 6: We?

1215
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:35,439
Speaker 1: Doing?

1216
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 2: Right then what are we what is the point? Of

1217
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 2: this at a, Bare minimum please stop putting this on the.

1218
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 2: Main card at a, bare minimum fire this if you

1219
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,879
Speaker 2: if you just need content because you need a certain

1220
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 2: amount of bodies on, the roster divide it up by division,

1221
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 2: to just, you know make the content demands at the

1222
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 2: end of, the month then find, DO that, i guess

1223
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 2: but put it on the prelims because this is a

1224
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 2: waste of. Everyone's time this is NOT world. Classi fighting

1225
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 2: who on earth can look at that fight and say

1226
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 2: this is WORLD. Class mma. It's not it's absolutely not

1227
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 2: WORLD class mma by any. Measurement WHATSOEVER and i don't

1228
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 2: understand what the point is of like crushing all of,

1229
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 2: your competitors having all the money in, the world and

1230
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 2: you're underbidding people who you. Desperately need if it can't,

1231
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 2: be both it can't, Be both like this is a

1232
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 2: division that's important, to us but we're just not willing

1233
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 2: to invest in it because we have these demands that

1234
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 2: we put, on ourselves or we don't want to like

1235
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 2: pay guys a bunch. Of, money okay if that's the

1236
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 2: way it needs. TO go i don't want to see

1237
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 2: them on main. CARDS anymore i don't want to. See

1238
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 2: It and i'll tell you this, Much. Too chuck i'm

1239
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,479
Speaker 2: not saying that This guy i'm about to name Would

1240
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 2: beat Aspinall, or GONE because i do think that they

1241
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 2: are a little, too fast a little. Too, Athletic However

1242
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 2: tim sylvia would beat the fuck out of the vast

1243
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 2: majority of the guys on. This master and you Don't

1244
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 2: Understand tim sylvia when He beat. Gan McGee this was

1245
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 2: at the same Time that pride Had like fadal And

1246
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 2: crow cop And like nogera and all, these guys and people, were, like,

1247
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:10,879
Speaker 2: yo yeah you got the leftovers there at The Uc.

1248
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 2: Heayway division those leftovers would beat the vast majority of

1249
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 2: the guys on the, roster today what is the point

1250
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 2: of keeping that as just urban blight sitting on the.

1251
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 2: Divisional landscape cut that shit off and put it out.

1252
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 2: OF sight i don't want to see. IT anymore i

1253
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 2: agree with you one, hundred. Percent MAN and i was

1254
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 2: not that you get, nostalgic for, you know some of

1255
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 2: the some of the times that. We've had BUT remember

1256
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 2: ufc one, forty six it was LIKE a i think

1257
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 2: the whole main card. Was heavyweights, They, had, yeah yeah

1258
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 2: they had they were able to. DO that i don't

1259
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 2: know how long ago. That was it's probably more than

1260
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 2: a ten. Years ago it was probably like twelve or thirty.

1261
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 3: That was That was may of.

1262
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 2: Twenty, twelve okay so going back, to that, you know

1263
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 2: you just you look at THAT and i just remember

1264
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 2: the time, you're thinking look at this.

1265
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 3: Heavyweight division there's so many.

1266
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 4: Possibilities here it was awesome that they could just put

1267
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 4: them all on a. Main card and WHAT the uc

1268
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 4: has always done really well is just kind of feed

1269
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,800
Speaker 4: the imagination and what, comes next what comes next with

1270
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 4: this guy and.

1271
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 3: This guy and.

1272
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 4: This guy and that's what was fun When brock lesner

1273
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 4: was in there and some of these guys like at,

1274
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 4: that time because you could you could kind of match make.

1275
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 2: Future fights what who is anybody? Doing that is anybody

1276
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 2: doing that with our with the?

1277
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 3: Heavyweight?

1278
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 4: Division now do you look? At it and does it

1279
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 4: let your imagination? Go wild i'd love to see this

1280
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 4: guy fight, this guy or this guy fight.

1281
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 3: This guy it just it doesn't even. Do that it

1282
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 3: doesn't captivate.

1283
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 4: The imagination and at, that point and if you're not

1284
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 4: going to bring in the guys who would try to,

1285
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 4: do that, you know like they are the guys who

1286
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 4: might galvanize, that action like where you'd be, You know

1287
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 4: rico would be fun to plug him into some of

1288
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 4: these scenarios because the partition. Is down he's a, huge

1289
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 4: star you know in, his COUNTRY and i just, to

1290
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 4: me that would be very interesting to see how that.

1291
00:57:57,560 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 4: Plays out but. They can't they can't get, that done.

1292
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 4: You Know In Francis, san ghana we've shut the door.

1293
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 4: On that like you don't even give hope for that type.

1294
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 4: Of scenario i'm, with, YOU man, i mean as crazy as,

1295
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 4: IT sounds i don't see the value of, having it,

1296
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 4: you know around. Right now it's just it's not a uh,

1297
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 4: you look we were just talking, about flyweight where there's

1298
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 4: five guys that you can like mix, and match and, you're,

1299
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 4: like oh any of these would.

1300
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 3: BE good i just you can't even. Do that, you

1301
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 3: can't like nobody. Would care nobody.

1302
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 4: Would care about the heavyweight the top five guys if

1303
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 4: you tried to mix and, match him Would, They.

1304
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 2: No, no again You got i'm not saying this is

1305
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 2: the Case for Kooniev or almeida. In particular almeida still,

1306
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 2: looks very very, physically strong but like half the guys

1307
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 2: on the roster look like their biggest loser contestants and

1308
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 2: not even, ultimate fighter.

1309
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 4: You Know, and almeida MAN we i was high on

1310
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 4: him a couple of, years ago and it's like one

1311
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 4: of those things, you're like, well, maybe Yeah AL mada i,

1312
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 4: WAS like i thought maybe he might turn, into SOMETHING but,

1313
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 4: I said i think It Was. Ben folks he, was

1314
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 4: like does anybody check with him to make sure he

1315
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 4: wants to be? Doing this, you know like does he

1316
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 4: want to be fighting or is it like one of

1317
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 4: those like him being polite and just kind of going

1318
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 4: through the motions. Of it, because, honestly man that was

1319
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 4: about as disinterested as you. Could be did you see it?

1320
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 4: That way it did not look like he wanted to.

1321
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 2: Be fighting he just, looks, like look he looks to

1322
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 2: me like he's got one way, to win and if, that,

1323
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 2: happens great he'll he'll work. It out but, if not,

1324
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 2: you know there's no there's nothing else that's going. To

1325
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 2: happen by, the way that card YOU mentioned ufc one,

1326
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 2: forty six this was AT The Mgm Grand, GARDEN arena

1327
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 2: Jds versus frankmere in the, main event he gets his lights.

1328
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 3: Punched out in.

1329
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 2: Round two co, Main Event kane Velaskiz. Beats thus, OH

1330
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 2: right i Remember that Tony and silva stops him in.

1331
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 2: The First roy nelson Knocks Out dave herman in the.

1332
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 2: First Pee wee herman was a. Fun Guy And, Roy

1333
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 2: Nelson roy nelson black Belt JIU jitsu. Ifl champion, you

1334
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 2: know this guy did some shit back in.

1335
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 3: The DAY.

1336
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 2: Steve a Miochiic beats Shane del rosario rest in Peace To.

1337
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 2: Shandel rozario and Of COURSE. Steve b miochic arguably grace uc.

1338
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 2: Headweight ever And Then stephen struve Arm Bars LeVar johnson

1339
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 2: in the. First round now That, Old, Johnson Yeah LeVar,

1340
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 2: big johnson that was. HIS name i think he went back,

1341
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 2: to prison by, The way i'm. Not sure but, you

1342
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 2: know The point i'm trying to make is not all

1343
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 2: of these guys are also, world beaters but just you

1344
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 2: could have an entire card with some very good heavyweights

1345
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 2: and then some decent heavyweights and it kind of fulfilled

1346
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 2: the job that. It needs you could never do. This

1347
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 2: today you could absolutely never. Do this and here's who's

1348
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 2: available now Again volkov i appreciate, His, Improvement okay padlovich

1349
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 2: alright and blades? All, right yeah and Well Though cortez coasta,

1350
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 2: is athletic but, it's like, you know there's Just, not

1351
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 2: yeah he's athletic in a time when you know he's

1352
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 2: also feasting on. Whatever's left basically everything after that.

1353
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 9: Is Is.

1354
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 3: Heith herring would beat most of, these guys, you know

1355
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 3: yes who, was like what's?

1356
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 2: Your scale, He's like I'm Just, texas ton, you know like? What,

1357
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 2: else like Dude, no gara what would New no?

1358
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 3: Gara do?

1359
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 2: My guys he would fucking. Smash them this. Is ABSURD

1360
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 2: it's I just my only REQUEST is i know that

1361
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 2: they're not gonna listen. TO me i know they're not

1362
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 2: gonna listen to a show, like this but if there's

1363
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 2: a way for any of them, to hear please stuff

1364
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 2: this on the prelim card because this is a complete For.

1365
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 3: The especially the juxtaposition between a heavyweight and the.

1366
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 4: Flyweight fight, it always it always seems like you're just

1367
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 4: like electrons or suddenly, you know it's just when they

1368
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 4: because it's so mired in, slow sludginess and then you

1369
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 4: go to like this flyweight fight and it seems like

1370
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 4: you can't even keep up.

1371
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 3: With it, you know it's like a. Double. Speed bro

1372
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 3: they had think about this on this.

1373
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 2: Main card it Was the, bautista Fight the, horagucci Fight the,

1374
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 2: kunia Fight the. Electricik fight, you, know uh go down,

1375
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 2: the list pick anyone from the. Prelim fight you could,

1376
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 2: have had by, the Way the donchenko Fight. Against morono

1377
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 2: that would have been a little bit, more. Fun dude

1378
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 2: How About javid Bosherod Versus. Johnny vaskuiz that fight. Was

1379
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 2: great that was a. Great fight how is that not

1380
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 2: a better use of the customer's time to watch than

1381
01:01:56,000 --> 01:02:00,120
Speaker 2: Watching fucking kuniev And al maida. DO NOTHING i, i

1382
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 2: just for the first time in, MY life i, was

1383
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 2: like if. THEY do i remember WHEN the ufc got

1384
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 2: rid of lightweight in it's like a two thousand and

1385
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 2: seven Following The josh Thompson And eves, Edwards fight and

1386
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 2: at the time it was a little bit of a

1387
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 2: shock in part because of you thought they could have,

1388
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 2: reconstituted it and, they eventually, of course brought it back

1389
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 2: and then it had. Its heyday but, It's like i've

1390
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 2: SEEN the ufc, cut, Divisions dude i've.

1391
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 3: Seen it i've lived. THROUGH it i don't.

1392
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 2: Who's gonna miss heavyweight when It goes you'll you'll you

1393
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 2: know what you, Would, Miss chuck you would miss the concept.

1394
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 2: Of heavyweight you would miss the idea.

1395
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 4: OF heavyweight, i mean, in boxing it's established as you

1396
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 4: don't get, any bigger right like if IT'S and i

1397
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 4: don't mean like in the literal sense of. Physical statue,

1398
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 4: i'm saying like you in terms of a heavyweight title

1399
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 4: fight in boxing still translates. FOR everybody, i mean they've

1400
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 4: had golden eras come through that features some of the

1401
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 4: people we still talk about fifty years later and even.

1402
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 4: Before that but like, you know you think about that all,

1403
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 4: the time and that's just not the case IN. The ufc,

1404
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 4: You know it's it's almost like at this point it's

1405
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 4: a little bit of a dead spot on. A SCHEDULE and,

1406
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 4: i thought, you know going, into THIS when i have to,

1407
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 4: be honest you're hoping that. You're WRONG but i saw

1408
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 4: that the potential of this fight being exactly what it

1409
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 4: turned out. To be it's just not a very exciting

1410
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 4: prospect when when you BOOK those.

1411
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 2: I would love to see what the internal DATA shows

1412
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 2: ufc about average customer interest in heavyweight fights or fights

1413
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 2: like this on the broadcast and what it does. To

1414
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 2: viewership I'd really i'd be curious, to see, BECAUSE again

1415
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 2: i think people certainly will always have a romantic ideal.

1416
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 2: For heavyweight but the blinkerd reality of it is A

1417
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 2: nuclear chernobyl level wasteland. Of nothing and it's a waste

1418
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 2: of everyone's time to watch.

1419
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 3: This shit it.

1420
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 4: Really is, AND also, i, mean, honestly like let's say

1421
01:03:57,240 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 4: that aspinall you know they in that back at some

1422
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 4: point This year aspinal. Beats gone what's? Behind, it like

1423
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 4: what excites you? Behind that like that's that's part of.

1424
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 4: The problem it's just there's just not like there's just

1425
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 4: nothing coming up that it's that's exciting.

1426
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 3: ABOUT it i.

1427
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 2: Don't, know well, good thing you're not going To sign

1428
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 2: francis and they were too cheap To. Sign, rico, great.

1429
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 2: Great amazing john doesn't seem to want to fight and

1430
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 2: he's gott an arthriadic kip, so, yeah yeah but. He'll

1431
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 2: fight he'll fight the, right fight just not the one

1432
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 2: that any of. Us want, all right let's go topic.

1433
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 2: Number four let's switch gears here a little bit and

1434
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 2: talk ABOUT The pfl. Dubai card pretty good card actually in,

1435
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 2: the end let's start with that. Main Event chuck so

1436
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 2: in the, Main Event usbin mrigamadov made pretty for the,

1437
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 2: most part pretty easy Work Of alfie davis getting a

1438
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 2: rear nikked choke with the arm in almost Like an

1439
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 2: ezekiel from the back in the, third ROUND as, I

1440
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 2: indicated so the question is this it was not like This,

1441
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 2: is listen we saw the odds heading In.

1442
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 3: On friday we talked about it HERE.

1443
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 2: In mk usman was a gigantic favorite hitting into, that

1444
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 2: fight so in, that sense you kind of got what you.

1445
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 3: Were, expecting however it does bring up an, interesting, question.

1446
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 2: Namely among all, Heavyweights, worldwide chuck where would You?

1447
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 3: Rank usman nurmaga made.

1448
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 7: Off To, day okay so we'd have to look at

1449
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 7: the UFC's rankings and do you have?

1450
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:17,439
Speaker 3: Them UP because?

1451
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 7: I do?

1452
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 3: I do i, mean so, so Basically where's?

1453
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 2: Justin Gaigeeing justin gaichee SITS at i mean he's?

1454
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 4: Number, ONE okay i, mean, OBVIOUSLY right i Guess ol.

1455
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 4: Remax four those are, Tough fights like if you're looking

1456
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 4: at a how do you? Gauge it because with a Guy,

1457
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 4: like usman who like, you know the brand names that,

1458
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 4: he's fought and the paul HE was i was, very,

1459
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 4: good right he had to show some metal and then

1460
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 4: he kind of looked a little more convincing in. The

1461
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 4: rematch but like if if, you, gauge like, You Know

1462
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 4: BENSON henderson i think was near forty years old when he,

1463
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 4: fought him Right and patricky was like in his, Late

1464
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 4: thirties so, it's like, you know how do you kind?

1465
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 4: Of GAUGE but i do think that like just, his

1466
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 4: pedigree like, you know where he, comes from the guys

1467
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 4: here that he trains with, and everything and just what

1468
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 4: we've seen of him and what he's been able to

1469
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 4: do even in this fight that we're.

1470
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 3: TALKING about i put him right.

1471
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 9: Up.

1472
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 3: THERE man i think he Beats.

1473
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 4: Justin GAECHIE but i, mean obviously like if you're looking

1474
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 4: at what does that make him? NUMBER one i don't

1475
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:21,920
Speaker 4: know about like the but wouldn't it be fascinating to

1476
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 4: find out what what happened against, zerukiin right a guy

1477
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 4: like that fighting one of these Guys Like. MAX holloway

1478
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 4: i think he, beats him, you Know so i'm probably

1479
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 4: putting him up if you kind of if you Look

1480
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 4: at gaechie as a, you know like a guy hovering

1481
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 4: in the, top three, let's say and you, Put serukiin

1482
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 4: i'm probably putting him, right there like right. AROUND there

1483
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 4: i would put Him above gaichi and right around serukiin

1484
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 4: where would you stick?

1485
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 3: Him, out, YEAH yeah i. THINK death.

1486
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 2: I Think usmann riga made off and, it's not, of

1487
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 2: course not just based On The alfie, davis PERFORMANCE but

1488
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 2: i would say That, FOLLOWING saturday i think he's firmly.

1489
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 2: TOP five i don't really have any issue with. TOP

1490
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 2: five i think top three is a little harder, to

1491
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 2: SAY because I think taporia is definitely the. Best, guy

1492
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 2: sure the Sar yuki, in fight to me is. PRETTY

1493
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 2: interesting i would ALSO say i do think that like

1494
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 2: people are kind of sleeping on them a. LITTLE bit

1495
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 2: i do think that The oli Era and holloway fights

1496
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 2: would be, really interesting Especially the, holloway fight because he's

1497
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 2: got pretty good takedown defense and a really great and,

1498
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 2: consistent jab, good footwork, good movement.

1499
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 3: Which could prove to be a.

1500
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 2: Real problem the BELIEF that, I, have chuck Is That

1501
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 2: Umar nimerga Madov And Uspin nimergam madov are very, very

1502
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 2: good but they're a step Down. From, habib yes and

1503
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 2: the REASON why i say that Is because habib was

1504
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 2: not as well rounded. As them that, is true they

1505
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 2: are then they can do a wider array of THINGS,

1506
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 2: within mma but they ARE again i know He Finished,

1507
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 2: alfie davis credit, to him but, in general, to me

1508
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 2: they're not. Dynamic finishers they're much more, control positioners score

1509
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:02,640
Speaker 2: and like touch, and go, you know find a way

1510
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 2: to land and then secure a kind of. Control position

1511
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 2: and they don't have they don't have a great ability

1512
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 2: to hurt. Their Opponent whereas habibe was making you play

1513
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 2: a game, of takedown past sub ground and bound and

1514
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 2: you're trying to navigate all of them, at once and he, had,

1515
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 2: like dude he was vicious.

1516
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 3: On top, You, know yeah they don't. Have that they

1517
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 3: don't have.

1518
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 2: That gear so that is going to keep guys in

1519
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 2: fights who have pretty good defense a little. Bit longer,

1520
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 2: olavera's got at least on, the ground certainly some pretty.

1521
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 2: Good defense and then, you, KNOW again I think I

1522
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 2: think holloway has got a really.

1523
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 3: Strong defense so.

1524
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 2: For me, TOP five i could even say, top THREE

1525
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 2: but i do not think that the evidence shows that

1526
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:43,719
Speaker 2: he's the best Lightweight.

1527
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:44,640
Speaker 3: ON earth i can't go.

1528
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:47,080
Speaker 4: That, Far NO and I mean i didn't even CONSIDER

1529
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 4: like i wasn't considering to poor just as, a Champion

1530
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 4: but I'M obviously, i mean but that would be a

1531
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 4: fascinating FIGHT because i do feel that like when, you have,

1532
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 4: you know a Guy, like usman who you've seen him

1533
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 4: fight guys that he's supposed to beat and sometimes STRUGGLING because,

1534
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 4: i know in Talking To, pezz carroll like that first

1535
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 4: Fight With, paul hughes you Know, in ireland they, saw

1536
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 4: it they saw it a different way than the scorecards

1537
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 4: right ended.

1538
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 3: Up being but, YOU KNOW I i i think that

1539
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:15,599
Speaker 3: when you're.

1540
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 4: Supposed to beat guys, like that it's tough to kind

1541
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:21,880
Speaker 4: of show anybody anything because he was SUPPOSED like i

1542
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 4: don't even know what the line ended up being on

1543
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 4: this uh on this, last FIGHT but i know he's a.

1544
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 4: Sizable favorite if he goes against any of the guys we're,

1545
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 4: talking about obviously that line is a lot different and

1546
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:35,559
Speaker 4: there's a there's a big. Public, perception wow he was minus.

1547
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 4: EIGHTEEN eight i had no. IDEA that i had no

1548
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 4: idea it was that, Big, DUDE jesus i had. No

1549
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 4: IDEA but i mean, to me that's that's why sometimes,

1550
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 4: you're like you like WHEN the pfl has a guy,

1551
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 4: like this or, you know, a rival, you know promotion

1552
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 4: has a guy that you believe could go INTO the

1553
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 4: ufc and do some work and maybe even become, a

1554
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 4: champion because that's, you know that's level in the plan

1555
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:02,880
Speaker 4: field on, some level, You, know Like but i'm more

1556
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:05,560
Speaker 4: fascinated to, find out, you know at some point like

1557
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:07,599
Speaker 4: how does he how does he go up against? These guys,

1558
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:09,680
Speaker 4: to me that would be a lot of fun if

1559
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 4: he ends UP because i know he's fighting out like

1560
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:14,599
Speaker 4: his contract at, this point, like right like he's within

1561
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 4: within a fight. OR two I think i'm kind of

1562
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:19,599
Speaker 4: like you, tell ME but i would like to find

1563
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:21,799
Speaker 4: out at, some, point right like would you rather.

1564
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 3: Stay there like IN the pfl or how what? Would?

1565
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 6: You?

1566
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:25,720
Speaker 3: Uh what what are?

1567
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 2: Your drolls let's let's see how he reacted to this

1568
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 2: QUESTION From Mma Junkies mike bond and then, We'll, react.

1569
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:34,719
Speaker 3: Okay how many times do you want to fight in twenty?

1570
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 3: TWENTY six.

1571
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 5: I KNOW how i MEAN times i. WILL fight i

1572
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:42,960
Speaker 5: know it's gonna be like two, two times. Two times

1573
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:47,720
Speaker 5: it's gonna begin and and end of the YEAR. Like o,

1574
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 5: THEN yeah i have on contract two more fights and after,

1575
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:55,559
Speaker 5: THIS fight i think we're gonna be seated to spoke

1576
01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:58,480
Speaker 5: to speak, About, FUTURE.

1577
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, I asked, UH yeah I Asked ali.

1578
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 9: Abdella's ease we did an interview last Week In las

1579
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:06,719
Speaker 9: VEGAS and i was asking and, he said you're very HAPPY,

1580
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:08,720
Speaker 9: with pfl but only a couple of fights left in.

1581
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 9: The deal but if you GO, to ufc it can't

1582
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 9: be for a. Pay cut they have to treat. You

1583
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 9: well and he LIKES the pfl is.

1584
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:17,720
Speaker 3: Tang you, we'll, see brother, you know.

1585
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:22,560
Speaker 5: We will see what's? Gonna be how are they gonna be?

1586
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 5: Interesting me because OF IN pfl i have everything. Is good,

1587
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:29,680
Speaker 5: You know i'm champion and there is there is have

1588
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 5: a lot. Of contenders you can, grow there like look

1589
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:37,720
Speaker 5: lost by. TWO fights i think, MY opinion i grow

1590
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:38,800
Speaker 5: BECAUSE of i was Fighting.

1591
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 3: With beast It Was.

1592
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 7: Paul hills he makes, me grow. For sure he. Grew

1593
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 7: too AND.

1594
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:50,880
Speaker 5: Like pfl. Is good you can make you study. Here

1595
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:56,639
Speaker 5: too just the questions what are they? Gonna be? Give

1596
01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 5: me like how we're gonna? Be spoken, we'll see we'll

1597
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:02,000
Speaker 5: say not fest. OF all i have to finish.

1598
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:04,720
Speaker 3: This guy what do, You think Chuck?

1599
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:09,759
Speaker 4: OH man, I mean i don't know IF, The, ufc

1600
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:11,840
Speaker 4: like do you know what he's MAKING, in PFL because i,

1601
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:13,800
Speaker 4: Don't know like we just were going on about This,

1602
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:16,519
Speaker 4: with RICO and i would assume that.

1603
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 3: They would they, really do like That name nirmonga.

1604
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:22,680
Speaker 4: Made up they like having it on, their posters and

1605
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 4: so there's a chance that they may, do that like

1606
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:27,960
Speaker 4: they may shell out and get a GUY like. I

1607
01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 4: hope so in, that SENSE like i would rather, see

1608
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:32,720
Speaker 4: him like who would he fight if he's STAYING. In

1609
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:35,360
Speaker 4: pfl it's it's almost Like the Dakota the, chiva, Thing

1610
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 4: right like, you're, like well she's she's becoming a star

1611
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:40,719
Speaker 4: on her own and she's doing, all this but who's

1612
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 4: out there? For her unless they, create something unless they bring,

1613
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:47,360
Speaker 4: somebody in it's more and more difficult to find relevant

1614
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:49,719
Speaker 4: fights or fights that are going to move the needle

1615
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:53,519
Speaker 4: or even show you their own evolution at. This point

1616
01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 4: so in, a career like a, legacy perspective, Like career

1617
01:12:57,680 --> 01:12:59,439
Speaker 4: i'd rather go TO. THE ufc i just would like

1618
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 4: to see how he does against the some of the

1619
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:01,760
Speaker 4: guys we were.

1620
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 2: Talking about there's also an interesting argument to make ABOUT,

1621
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:06,920
Speaker 2: The ufc like to, YOUR point i, Totally agree like

1622
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 2: when you Know when habib is cornering usman they'll Have

1623
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 2: a habib cam at. These EVENTS the, PFL dude i

1624
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 2: was doing tape Study For friday show, last WEEK and

1625
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:17,880
Speaker 2: i forget WHICH fight i was watching. THERE was i

1626
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:20,680
Speaker 2: obviously went over, a BUNCH but i remember. There were

1627
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 2: connor McGregor was at one, of them and they had

1628
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 2: a McGregor, cam THERE and i, was like he doesn't, even,

1629
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:31,160
Speaker 2: fight like he doesn't fight for, your organization nor is

1630
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:35,000
Speaker 2: he even cornering anyone who's fighting for. Your organization At

1631
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 2: least habib is in the corner working, the thing. You

1632
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:40,160
Speaker 2: know so they any any kind of celebrity they can

1633
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 2: get like that. They ENJOY and, i think, you, know

1634
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:43,800
Speaker 2: listen if you can make, big money understands he does

1635
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 2: make some pretty good money for, you know, relatively, speaking

1636
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:49,479
Speaker 2: sure so that you know that he may end. Up

1637
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 2: staying it's just there is an argument to. Consider. That

1638
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 2: listen you look at the top of lightweight. As indicator

1639
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:57,720
Speaker 2: we pull the rankings. Back up you've got, The top

1640
01:13:57,800 --> 01:13:59,559
Speaker 2: You've Got. Supporia gates you won't be here for too,

1641
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:02,080
Speaker 2: much longer but you soon have Got, arminsar yuki and

1642
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:03,240
Speaker 2: you Still got Max and charles.

1643
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:03,479
Speaker 3: Hanging.

1644
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 2: Around HERE Comes. Bsd pattie, YOU know i don't know

1645
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 2: if he's really going to turn. Into much that's at six, Now,

1646
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:12,320
Speaker 2: Seven gamrock, who's GOOD but i think as you've kind

1647
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:12,920
Speaker 2: of seen the limit.

1648
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 6: Of.

1649
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 2: It hooker, you know we all, love him but there's

1650
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:16,560
Speaker 2: limits to that.

1651
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:19,000
Speaker 3: As well hoofy's sitting. At nine we'll see what happens.

1652
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:21,560
Speaker 2: To him and then, you Know The tenu wakanna and

1653
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 2: eleven is physif The point i'm trying to make is at,

1654
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:25,760
Speaker 2: the top you still have some pretty good names and

1655
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:29,240
Speaker 2: some pretty, good matchups but the lightweight division is not

1656
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:32,720
Speaker 2: quite as filled out as it, once was getting a

1657
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:35,800
Speaker 2: guy like Who's number gamdov added to that when he

1658
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:39,760
Speaker 2: is still actually Pretty Young nimber gamdov currently sits just

1659
01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:40,840
Speaker 2: twenty seven years.

1660
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 3: Of age check now he's the younger Brother of bumar for.

1661
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:47,280
Speaker 2: Some, reason exactly he's got twenty. One fights he's twenty

1662
01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:49,800
Speaker 2: seven years. Of age in, my view he's probably top

1663
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 2: five in, the world maybe a little. Bit higher that'd

1664
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 2: be a great signing for them to have to really

1665
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 2: begin to fill out more of.

1666
01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 3: That division that's the thing that they want.

1667
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:01,080
Speaker 4: To, do YEAH and, i mean AND like i, WAS

1668
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:03,720
Speaker 4: saying i just don't know who you can you name

1669
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 4: who would be next for HIM. In PFL that's i

1670
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 4: guess that's what it comes. Down to i'll tell you

1671
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 4: WHAT the pfl rankings say and that'll. PROBABLY answer, i.

1672
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 2: Mean there's a couple of guys, right like but They're

1673
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:16,519
Speaker 2: just rabhanava already Lost to alvis.

1674
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 3: Right alby so, it's like so You Have, gatzi rabotanov who.

1675
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:23,680
Speaker 2: Alfre b You Have archie colgan who's interesting and undefeated

1676
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:26,120
Speaker 2: and has a, wrestling background but to me is just

1677
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 2: not nearly AS well, i mean not even close to

1678
01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:29,080
Speaker 2: as well rounded.

1679
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:31,519
Speaker 3: As usman you Do Have, paul hughes but can you

1680
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 3: pull the trigger on a? Trilogy fight?

1681
01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:36,639
Speaker 2: Not yet and then, after that, YOU Know jj wilson

1682
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 2: sitting at seven is kind of interesting.

1683
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 3: To me So Is.

1684
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 2: Alexanderson BLIE but i don't think either of them are

1685
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 2: necessarily go, turn beaters, you, KNOW.

1686
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:47,040
Speaker 4: Yeah i Mean selfishly selfishly is just like from the

1687
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 4: fan perspective, in ME like i would rather see him

1688
01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:53,320
Speaker 4: going against the GUYS it's i mean twenty seven years. Old,

1689
01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:56,600
Speaker 4: Too man you're this is a guy who it's not

1690
01:15:56,840 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 4: he hasn't entered his prime yet he hasn't even entered.

1691
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 4: His prime so, to me like it, would be, you

1692
01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:04,360
Speaker 4: know to see him go up against the. Litmus test are?

1693
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:05,920
Speaker 4: We are we bouncing back? And forth here.

1694
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:08,040
Speaker 3: A stroke, back.

1695
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 4: There buddy, he said his computer's. BUGGING out i saw

1696
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:13,639
Speaker 4: it like in the side, Note here so there.

1697
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 3: We go there.

1698
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:15,920
Speaker 7: He, is, sorry guys my ship.

1699
01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:18,680
Speaker 3: WAS bugging i think you all, right, there bud have

1700
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 3: a little problems.

1701
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:21,719
Speaker 7: At home do my. Whole thing you guys were glitching

1702
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:22,240
Speaker 7: out for like.

1703
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:24,760
Speaker 8: FIVE minutes i refreshed and THEN when i refreshed it,

1704
01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:26,320
Speaker 8: and whatever we're, good now.

1705
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:28,760
Speaker 3: Very good, so, yeah man just.

1706
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:31,400
Speaker 4: From, THAT perspective i would love to see him against

1707
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:33,920
Speaker 4: the guys IN. The ufc by, the way very quickly

1708
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 4: We Have alfie davis reflecting on. This loss if we

1709
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 4: can play that.

1710
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:40,280
Speaker 2: LONG on i heard my coolna say thirty, seconds LEFT

1711
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:42,599
Speaker 2: and i, was, like oh just chill here, and wait

1712
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:44,840
Speaker 2: it's not really going to get this and the next

1713
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:45,320
Speaker 2: Thing and i'm.

1714
01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 3: Waking up he had the mumps of squeeze on. The

1715
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:50,160
Speaker 3: neck what was going on on your mind when you?

1716
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:50,640
Speaker 8: Wake up?

1717
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 3: You KNOW well i woke up with kobeb in.

1718
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 7: MY face i, was like.

1719
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:57,040
Speaker 3: It's weird have you even if you've ever been? Choked

1720
01:16:57,080 --> 01:17:00,760
Speaker 3: out it's like a sort of weird. BUZZY feeling i

1721
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:01,960
Speaker 3: don't know what? Couples up WHERE?

1722
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 1: Am? I OH there? I am.

1723
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:07,960
Speaker 3: But yeah unfortunately then so they didn't talk. To, right

1724
01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:11,800
Speaker 3: yeah he was very respectful to their. VERY respectful i

1725
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 3: Think the markatschev game the.

1726
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:15,680
Speaker 7: Best comment he like laughed at me, and, said, hey

1727
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:19,040
Speaker 7: bother now it's. One one it was very just.

1728
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:21,560
Speaker 3: VERY funny i don't. Get it what's the?

1729
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:21,760
Speaker 1: One?

1730
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:23,760
Speaker 3: ONE jenner i don't know what?

1731
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 7: That is because he Beat. Gadzy, rabadanov, yes yes teammate.

1732
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:30,559
Speaker 2: Thing uh, and then last but, not least just take

1733
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 2: a look at this Sweet From, bronze setter who was

1734
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 2: our guest On. Last friday i'm TOLD That pfl dubai

1735
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 2: will not be available to Watch in Canada. Or Brazil

1736
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:42,200
Speaker 2: chuck jesus and two powerhouse at least, one powerhouse but

1737
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 2: certainly You know canada did have a time where it

1738
01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:47,640
Speaker 2: was a. Powerhouse, MARKET dude i don't understand the PFLs.

1739
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 2: They got they've got their DEAL With espn plus and

1740
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 2: this was actually in addition. To it so it doesn't

1741
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 2: fit neatly within the framework of content that. They've got

1742
01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:57,800
Speaker 2: but it's just as like you got your pound four

1743
01:17:57,880 --> 01:18:01,960
Speaker 2: pound number one guy and you can't. Showcase him it's.

1744
01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 2: A problem it's. A problem pfl stands were pretty, Freaking,

1745
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:07,439
Speaker 2: limited luke that's what it.

1746
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 3: Stands for with that, my horn where's? My horn where's?

1747
01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 6: His?

1748
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:15,760
Speaker 3: Horn face there. You go he would do that WITH.

1749
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:17,880
Speaker 2: B c he would laugh at all of BC's jokes

1750
01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 2: AND then i have, A banger i'm. Tech issues he'd

1751
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 2: give me the crickets, and ship, you know put down.

1752
01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 2: The bong you're not supposed to, Be. Funny, luke, damn,

1753
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:30,759
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly BUT sometimes i can't. Help myself, all right topic,

1754
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:32,840
Speaker 2: number five if we can here co main event OF that,

1755
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 2: pfo card we'll talk a little bit about the rest

1756
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:34,519
Speaker 2: of it.

1757
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 3: As well so this.

1758
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 2: Was interesting Ramazan kerl Maadov Defeated, shamil MUSAIAH which i

1759
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:43,840
Speaker 2: was very. SURPRISED by I thought messiah would, have won,

1760
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 2: But No karon, magamadov does and he does so for

1761
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 2: the most part. Pretty convincingly there was a point deduction

1762
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 2: in the fourth Thread, against, musiah okay which made him the, Walterweight,

1763
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:56,920
Speaker 2: champion chuck and, you're, like wow, That's amazing like this.

1764
01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 2: Is incredible he beat somebody really good and he's not.

1765
01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:02,840
Speaker 2: The CHAMPION and pfl finally is, you know sorting out.

1766
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 2: The division we're not going to HAVE Like, pfl europe,

1767
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:07,800
Speaker 2: you know but fuck champion or whatever.

1768
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:08,000
Speaker 3: They do with.

1769
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:12,800
Speaker 2: Their designations but then he just retired as soon as it.

1770
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:16,479
Speaker 3: Was over it, was Bad and, i'm, like dude this

1771
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:19,560
Speaker 3: is my question. To you WHAT is pfl supposed to do?

1772
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:20,680
Speaker 6: WITH this i.

1773
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:23,120
Speaker 4: Don't KNOW and i feel like he caught him completely

1774
01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 4: off Guard Because dan hardy's in there and he's trying

1775
01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:29,519
Speaker 4: to talk, about like, you know the big performance and,

1776
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:32,000
Speaker 4: all that, and meantime, GUYS like I think, i'm, DONE

1777
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 4: man i, YOU know i THINK he's i hope that's not.

1778
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:35,720
Speaker 4: The case, you know he's trying to talk him out

1779
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 4: of it in, real time and, he's, LIKE nah I think.

1780
01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 4: I'M done, i mean that WAS just i haven't seen something.

1781
01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:43,240
Speaker 4: LIKE that i think usually in the pre production they

1782
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:46,519
Speaker 4: might have some kind of inkling of. This happened this

1783
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:48,760
Speaker 4: struck me as like that they had no idea that that.

1784
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:51,519
Speaker 3: Was coming, You Know poor. Dan.

1785
01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:54,120
Speaker 2: HARDY bro i know HE felt i felt like he, was,

1786
01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 2: like oh now what, You know, he's, LIKE well i

1787
01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 2: hope at the end he's like he, signs, off, LIKE

1788
01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 2: well i hope we see, you again, you know Just,

1789
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:04,840
Speaker 2: LIKE bro i hate it WHEN like i do this

1790
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 2: kind of, thing too and, like listen at the end of,

1791
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:10,000
Speaker 2: the day it's the athlete's turn. To talk LIKE when

1792
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:13,360
Speaker 2: i interview fighters, post fight, you know it's the athletes turn,

1793
01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 2: to talk and especially if.

1794
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:16,759
Speaker 3: THEY win, i mean you can talk sometimes you'll.

1795
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:18,760
Speaker 2: Talk, to, both obviously but in a case where the,

1796
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:21,720
Speaker 2: athlete wins my view has ALWAYS been i need to

1797
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 2: ask them QUESTIONS that i think the fans might be. Thinking,

1798
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:27,920
Speaker 2: of sure but at the, same time it's their turn,

1799
01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:30,519
Speaker 2: to talk and whatever they want, to say you have

1800
01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:33,320
Speaker 2: to you have to. Listen to but sometimes they'll just

1801
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 2: come out ninety nine percent of the time, is actually

1802
01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:37,080
Speaker 2: even in a, crazy sport you can kind of predict

1803
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:38,679
Speaker 2: what they're going, to say, you know to fight blah,

1804
01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 2: Blah blah.

1805
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 3: I'm great IS what i? Want next you know that kind.

1806
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:44,519
Speaker 2: Of thing but then sometimes they'll, be like, You know

1807
01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 2: i'll ask, them, like hey how is the fight and they'll,

1808
01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:48,920
Speaker 2: Be LIKE i'm hiv Positive and, i'm, like okay.

1809
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 3: Why are we doing it?

1810
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:50,320
Speaker 7: This?

1811
01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:54,160
Speaker 3: Way oh can you just?

1812
01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:56,360
Speaker 2: Be normal and so it kind of it puts this

1813
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:58,560
Speaker 2: onus on you as the guy. Interviewing them, you're, like

1814
01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:01,559
Speaker 2: okay wait, a second what does the promotion now want

1815
01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:04,519
Speaker 2: me to? Ask them, because right you? Know what And

1816
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:07,040
Speaker 2: Poor dan hardy is out there trying to tap dance,

1817
01:21:07,160 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 2: around this. So chuck just for, Reference Sake shamil musiah

1818
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:13,679
Speaker 2: was again they haven't updated. The rankings it's the same

1819
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:16,920
Speaker 2: thing AS the, ufc Side but shamil was sitting, number

1820
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:19,280
Speaker 2: one it was a, vacant title and then You Had

1821
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:23,000
Speaker 2: colonel macamadoff sitting. At two So now musaiah of loses

1822
01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:28,000
Speaker 2: AND again i thought he had a better ending of

1823
01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 2: the fight than. The beginning i'll put it. THAT way

1824
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:33,880
Speaker 2: i guess you Could have musiah fight in back to

1825
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:38,880
Speaker 2: back fights for the vacant Title Against, thad jean who,

1826
01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:41,960
Speaker 2: was there who won the, last tournament who people seem

1827
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:42,519
Speaker 2: to like a lot.

1828
01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:45,800
Speaker 3: AS well i Think Me jason jackson. To win does

1829
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 3: that tickle?

1830
01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:46,559
Speaker 7: Your?

1831
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 4: FANCY yeah i mean In that jean's one of those.

1832
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:52,680
Speaker 4: Guys too who has a certain dynamic that like you pay.

1833
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:54,200
Speaker 4: ATTENTION to i felt like he was one of those

1834
01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 4: guys on the rise that was getting, some SHINE so.

1835
01:21:57,560 --> 01:21:59,760
Speaker 4: I wouldn't i guess that's what.

1836
01:21:59,840 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 5: You.

1837
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 2: Do man it's just but it's like it takes something off,

1838
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:06,800
Speaker 2: of it right when your new champion decides that.

1839
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:11,160
Speaker 4: That's THAT but i at least they've got something that

1840
01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:14,559
Speaker 4: they can, put together. THAT'S all i think that that's

1841
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 4: one of, The reasons Like For, john jones when you

1842
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:19,200
Speaker 4: look AT the ufc and, they're, like well we don't

1843
01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 4: want to Bring Back john jones and he PULLS a

1844
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:23,280
Speaker 4: gsp where he just comes back and when then all of,

1845
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:24,920
Speaker 4: a sudden we're just you, know whatever he has a

1846
01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 4: belt and then he retires or and they've we've seen

1847
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:29,719
Speaker 4: this with other, guys too where you're just Not sure

1848
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:31,439
Speaker 4: gaege's at, the end, you know and, YOU'RE like i

1849
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 4: don't know how long. He goes but it's kind of,

1850
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:36,920
Speaker 4: a gamble, You know like with these guys IN. The

1851
01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:39,360
Speaker 4: ufc when you see, this happen and when when you see,

1852
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:41,840
Speaker 4: it happen when they're caught, off guard it's a bad

1853
01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:44,479
Speaker 4: it's it's a. Bad situation we're sitting here Talking About

1854
01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:47,840
Speaker 4: normaga madeov possibly getting out OF, the pfl and then

1855
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:49,599
Speaker 4: you get a guy who's a champion and you're trying

1856
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:52,880
Speaker 4: to run their machine and he decides. HE'S done, i

1857
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:55,800
Speaker 4: mean how are? You like this is why WHEN when

1858
01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:57,519
Speaker 4: i see this kind, Of, shit luke this Is when,

1859
01:22:57,560 --> 01:23:00,439
Speaker 4: i'm like good luck. Running promote dana is all absolutely

1860
01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:02,760
Speaker 4: right about that when, he's like, hey man you tried running.

1861
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:03,439
Speaker 3: A promotion it's.

1862
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:05,560
Speaker 4: Very difficult and to juggle all of that and to

1863
01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:07,640
Speaker 4: keep going and to always be able to put on

1864
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:10,240
Speaker 4: an event is. Very difficult and this is one of

1865
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:12,439
Speaker 4: those cards, to me like where you're all of a

1866
01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:15,080
Speaker 4: sudden that gene, has been, you know kind of injected into.

1867
01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:19,120
Speaker 4: The situation this is when you see, It Right like, you're,

1868
01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:22,160
Speaker 4: like man it's just. Constant adversity it SEEMS like I

1869
01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:26,479
Speaker 4: Loved carmaga. Medow's approach he Was on Mussaiah like White

1870
01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:29,160
Speaker 4: on rice from the beginning of. This, fight really we

1871
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:31,559
Speaker 4: talked last week About How diego lopez couldn't cage cut

1872
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:31,840
Speaker 4: to save.

1873
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 2: His life that was not a Problem For. Kermaga madoff

1874
01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 2: he was all over him now again as the fight.

1875
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:38,120
Speaker 2: War on You saw massiah be able to get a

1876
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:39,080
Speaker 2: little bit. More distant THAT'S what i was.

1877
01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:41,000
Speaker 4: Gonna say did, you think like from a guy who's

1878
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 4: who likes to analyze the fight's LIKE mass, i have

1879
01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:45,439
Speaker 4: especially IN ks W and l like he kind of ate.

1880
01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:47,400
Speaker 3: Wrestlers up a little bit by letting them wear.

1881
01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 4: THEMSELVES out i, almost wondered you KNOW what, i mean

1882
01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:52,000
Speaker 4: if that's was what was going to happen in this,

1883
01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 4: fight couple, you know maybe the first maybe early it's,

1884
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:55,800
Speaker 4: one way and then it goes.

1885
01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:57,519
Speaker 3: The other, you know he swings it in. His favor

1886
01:23:57,600 --> 01:23:59,600
Speaker 3: late just. Didn't, happen no.

1887
01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:02,160
Speaker 2: It did but Like again kamcha manof was doing it

1888
01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:04,600
Speaker 2: with the. Striking too he was bombing. ON him, i

1889
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:09,640
Speaker 2: mean he kept just. Intense pressure again not throughout the,

1890
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:12,200
Speaker 2: entire fight but through long stretches. Of it that fourth

1891
01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:16,040
Speaker 2: round he obviously that that killed any Chance that mussia

1892
01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:17,600
Speaker 2: might have had with that illegal need when he was

1893
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:19,800
Speaker 2: down by The Way big john refing, This Fight big

1894
01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:21,960
Speaker 2: john back. To action some of, these bigger high, profile

1895
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 2: contests he kind of orbits in. It out he just

1896
01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:26,640
Speaker 2: really is a shame because, it's, like dude this was

1897
01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 2: a THIS was i was very surprised at How Well

1898
01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:31,600
Speaker 2: kermacker madoff did and then he's just, like yeah, Fuck this.

1899
01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 3: I'm out, i'm like oh, my god he break. His

1900
01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 3: arm it, was unclear like yeah he. Might. Have yeah it's,

1901
01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:40,280
Speaker 3: like dude which is even. MORE impressive, i mean it's

1902
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:41,600
Speaker 3: JUST like, i know but to.

1903
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:43,639
Speaker 2: Your point, it's, like dude why would you ever want

1904
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:45,920
Speaker 2: to run a? Fight PROMOTION and i saw, these fighters,

1905
01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:49,080
Speaker 2: you Remember Like jorge masma all retired like, right away

1906
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 2: he got into like. Game bread he hasn't done that

1907
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:53,080
Speaker 2: in a. LONG time I Know anthony pettis. HAS won

1908
01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:55,840
Speaker 2: I know fabers got one out there called, a one.

1909
01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 3: But still do remember his. Brother's war it wasn't a raw.

1910
01:24:59,240 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 3: Or war it was one of.

1911
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:04,360
Speaker 2: War, war yeah it was. A. Ranto uh it's just

1912
01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:07,880
Speaker 2: it's hard to. Make money it's. Very difficult there's constant

1913
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:11,639
Speaker 2: issues with THE last. xFC event i went, to dude

1914
01:25:11,720 --> 01:25:13,599
Speaker 2: the one of the guys in the co main event

1915
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:14,519
Speaker 2: didn't even chop to the.

1916
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:16,800
Speaker 3: Way in he just didn't even chop to the. Way

1917
01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:18,240
Speaker 3: in and he was A local.

1918
01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:21,360
Speaker 2: Vegas, guy yeah, it's like oh, my god they're. So

1919
01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:26,479
Speaker 2: unpredictable it's. So unpredictable anybody else from this card that

1920
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:29,080
Speaker 2: stood out to you for, any reason any other fight

1921
01:25:29,240 --> 01:25:32,560
Speaker 2: of note for you, to HIGHLIGHT if I if i

1922
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:35,160
Speaker 2: do this, ON myself i got To the Salamat Is

1923
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:41,000
Speaker 2: Blaiah jesu's. Panato fight Dude Is boulaiah. KAZAKH fighter. Pfl

1924
01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:44,519
Speaker 2: Debut jesus panato is. Proven brother he has a good

1925
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 2: fighter And. Its boulaiah buzz. SAWED him i, was, like yo.

1926
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:50,679
Speaker 3: HE'S good.

1927
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:54,559
Speaker 4: I mean to be to be, completely honest these are

1928
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:56,640
Speaker 4: the TWO fights i got to see because there was

1929
01:25:56,920 --> 01:25:59,519
Speaker 4: things going on over here with an ice damn situation in,

1930
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:00,120
Speaker 4: my house.

1931
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 9: So we have.

1932
01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:04,240
Speaker 4: People working so the two fights at the top were

1933
01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:06,439
Speaker 4: the ONES that i was able to. Check OUT and

1934
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:08,040
Speaker 4: i still haven't had a chance to go back and

1935
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:08,519
Speaker 4: watch all OF.

1936
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:13,880
Speaker 2: The pfil Shouts To Habib nabiev nebajev who's twelve and

1937
01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:16,800
Speaker 2: zero at at two, O five russian guy who looks

1938
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:19,840
Speaker 2: to be. Pretty Good luke traynor also same thing out OF.

1939
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:23,360
Speaker 2: The uk Denise keel holtz gets, a win and.

1940
01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:23,640
Speaker 3: There were some.

1941
01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:26,160
Speaker 2: Other Ones taylor laplis. GETS stoppage i was a pretty.

1942
01:26:26,240 --> 01:26:29,840
Speaker 2: Nice One. Puya ramani we talked about him. Last week

1943
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:31,880
Speaker 2: he gets a win in the. Second round He Defeats.

1944
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:34,639
Speaker 2: Carl williams but that and by, the Way Lazy king Abdul.

1945
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:37,760
Speaker 2: Loved ragamov he gets, a win. Although, barely uh But

1946
01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 2: then salamiti is BELIVE as i indicated that dude looked

1947
01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:43,040
Speaker 2: to me like the. Real deal holy yea a great

1948
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:48,160
Speaker 2: find FOR the PFL, If, i louke did You? Watch knucklemania,

1949
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:50,400
Speaker 2: and uh what were your takeaways?

1950
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:51,519
Speaker 8: Of? THAT like i.

1951
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:53,000
Speaker 2: DID not i Was, in PHILLY but i did not

1952
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:54,320
Speaker 2: even Know what knucklemania.

1953
01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:54,880
Speaker 3: WAS there i.

1954
01:26:57,080 --> 01:26:57,120
Speaker 5: Was.

1955
01:26:57,240 --> 01:26:59,080
Speaker 3: Literally ITALENTED but i went to a concert. THAT night

1956
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:00,000
Speaker 3: i went to a concert at The fil.

1957
01:27:00,160 --> 01:27:06,160
Speaker 2: War, THERE okay i would Say That andrea rolovsky's longevity

1958
01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:09,120
Speaker 2: is one of the most surprising stories in combat sports.

1959
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:13,040
Speaker 2: FORTY seven i cannot do we thought he was chinny

1960
01:27:13,240 --> 01:27:16,759
Speaker 2: over a decade ago and why at least two different

1961
01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:19,240
Speaker 2: runs we've thought, this too like where he's had huge.

1962
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:20,959
Speaker 3: Losing, streaks dude.

1963
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:25,320
Speaker 2: He went toe to Toe With Pedro Hiszo pedro hiso's

1964
01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:30,200
Speaker 2: like multiple, generations ago and he went toe to toe

1965
01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:32,160
Speaker 2: with him as a heavyweight back in. The day it's

1966
01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:34,880
Speaker 2: insane how. Much longevity what.

1967
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:37,040
Speaker 3: Was THE first ufc Did you what was YOUR first

1968
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:39,280
Speaker 3: ufc you? Ever attended do you?

1969
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:43,439
Speaker 2: Recall, attended yeah like that you Were at i'm not. Even,

1970
01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 2: SURE yeah, I mind i mean paid attention obviously and

1971
01:27:47,120 --> 01:27:48,759
Speaker 2: was writing. About it but the FIRST one i actually

1972
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:52,400
Speaker 2: ATTENDED was ufc eighty Two, In. Columbus ohio and that, Particular,

1973
01:27:52,479 --> 01:27:55,280
Speaker 2: one arlobski was in two thousand, and Eight and arlovsky

1974
01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:58,200
Speaker 2: had a contract dispute remember, with them and ended up

1975
01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:00,960
Speaker 2: they pushed him onto the Prelimbs to, jake O'Brien, right

1976
01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:03,439
Speaker 2: O'Brien and i remember that being such a. Big deal,

1977
01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:07,439
Speaker 2: but dude we're talking sixteen. Was it it'd be eighteen

1978
01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:10,400
Speaker 2: years Ago. In march it's like eighteen, years ago and

1979
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:12,360
Speaker 2: the dude had already had a full long career at

1980
01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:14,840
Speaker 2: that point going into. That fight and here we are

1981
01:28:15,439 --> 01:28:17,640
Speaker 2: eighteen years later and he's. Still GOING that's, i mean

1982
01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:20,560
Speaker 2: it's just it boggles the mind even. Contemplate that, you

1983
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:22,800
Speaker 2: know Guys Like evan tanner were on, that card and

1984
01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:24,840
Speaker 2: you know people who are no longer.

1985
01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:27,519
Speaker 3: WITH us, i mean it's just now so you'll see

1986
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:31,519
Speaker 3: who was on. That card It Was hint Hindo versus

1987
01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:34,880
Speaker 3: silva was the. MAIN event. I Know chris leban was on,

1988
01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:37,240
Speaker 3: that Card And. Luke CuMo remember, that.

1989
01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:40,679
Speaker 2: Guy the guy who drank his. Own, piss yeah that's

1990
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:46,280
Speaker 2: him Out Of. Sarah, longo yes, all right YOU said ufc, eighty, two, right,

1991
01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:48,600
Speaker 2: yeah yeah. All RIGHT so ufc eighty two Was.

1992
01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:49,320
Speaker 3: Called pride Of. A.

1993
01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:52,080
Speaker 2: Champion yeah this Was When dan henderson came Over, from,

1994
01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:54,320
Speaker 2: pride right and he was the double champ at.

1995
01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:56,280
Speaker 3: This point silva beat him in the. Main Event heath

1996
01:28:56,320 --> 01:28:58,679
Speaker 3: Harring Defeated. Check, congo Dude.

1997
01:28:58,760 --> 01:29:01,679
Speaker 2: Check congo why would he not BE a ufc champion?

1998
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:04,280
Speaker 2: THESE day I don't that's a, great point, You know

1999
01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:08,960
Speaker 2: chris like, He Was, Chris Leebin, Alessio Sakaria, Yushin Okami,

2000
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:13,519
Speaker 2: Evan Tanner, John Fitch, Chris Wilson, Andrea Rolowski jacobrian Luigifi Or,

2001
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:17,800
Speaker 2: Avanti Lucumo, Josh Kastek dustin hazlet was Ar, bar no

2002
01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:20,519
Speaker 2: he lost. That One diego sanchez was on this one

2003
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 2: And jorgegger jell who by, the Way hornhager jel now

2004
01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:24,280
Speaker 2: but of a translator saw.

2005
01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:25,080
Speaker 3: THAT man i.

2006
01:29:25,160 --> 01:29:26,760
Speaker 4: Saw that it was one of those moments where you

2007
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:28,439
Speaker 4: look at, me, like wait who? Is that you had

2008
01:29:28,520 --> 01:29:30,360
Speaker 4: to place him for, A minute, i say that's. Good jell,

2009
01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:34,280
Speaker 4: all right. That's crazy most of those guys, are gone is.

2010
01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:36,960
Speaker 4: The point that's just. That's, nuts indeed, all right that's our.

2011
01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:39,720
Speaker 4: Top five we appreciate you guys sticking in, for this

2012
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:41,920
Speaker 4: but now we get to hear. From you it is

2013
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:51,040
Speaker 4: time for d ms from the diggity dogs. Once again

2014
01:29:51,080 --> 01:29:54,120
Speaker 4: THAT'S how i breathed into my. Wife's eve, all right let's,

2015
01:29:54,160 --> 01:29:55,000
Speaker 4: go first question.

2016
01:29:56,040 --> 01:29:56,439
Speaker 3: A man and.

2017
01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:58,800
Speaker 2: His cat would you rather try and stay awake after

2018
01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:02,920
Speaker 2: a triple Dose of nike Or watching oh, My Lord

2019
01:30:03,080 --> 01:30:07,920
Speaker 2: shelton Almeida fight aget, cut him bro, cut him.

2020
01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:11,360
Speaker 4: Cut him he got to Like if dan is always,

2021
01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:13,160
Speaker 4: saying like if you're not, in, it man if you're not,

2022
01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:15,720
Speaker 4: into it you don't belong, in, There right like this

2023
01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:18,479
Speaker 4: is just one of his. Long proverbs he didn't look

2024
01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:20,280
Speaker 4: like he wanted to. BE there, i mean when you

2025
01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:21,879
Speaker 4: see a guy, like, that like what are you supposed

2026
01:30:21,880 --> 01:30:23,519
Speaker 4: to do? With him he doesn't look like he wants to.

2027
01:30:23,560 --> 01:30:25,320
Speaker 4: Be THERE if i was, His corner i'd be like

2028
01:30:26,240 --> 01:30:27,000
Speaker 4: why are we spinning?

2029
01:30:27,040 --> 01:30:27,519
Speaker 3: Our wheels?

2030
01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:30,519
Speaker 2: You, know ALSO like mma is, SUPPOSED to, i mean,

2031
01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:33,479
Speaker 2: you know to the extent that this happens the way

2032
01:30:33,479 --> 01:30:37,679
Speaker 2: that it's supposed to, Is DEBATABLE but mma is supposed

2033
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:39,680
Speaker 2: to be one of those sports where even if, you

2034
01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:42,960
Speaker 2: lose if you, fight enough with enough heart, and vitality

2035
01:30:43,560 --> 01:30:46,040
Speaker 2: the fans can sometimes still rally. Around you you do

2036
01:30:46,120 --> 01:30:48,439
Speaker 2: a couple of, cool things show a lot of. Fighting

2037
01:30:48,479 --> 01:30:51,120
Speaker 2: spirit it doesn't even necessarily matter if you, win sometimes

2038
01:30:51,800 --> 01:30:54,120
Speaker 2: but then if, you lose and then you lose in

2039
01:30:54,160 --> 01:30:56,760
Speaker 2: a way where people, are like, HOLY shit i never want.

2040
01:30:56,800 --> 01:30:59,639
Speaker 2: To see, it's, like dude you're in the most forgiving sport,

2041
01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:04,080
Speaker 2: for losses and even with that they don't want anything

2042
01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:07,240
Speaker 2: to do with you can consider how bad it has

2043
01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:09,679
Speaker 2: to be for that to be. A thing i'm taking

2044
01:31:09,720 --> 01:31:12,040
Speaker 2: the niquial. Option, here yeah, oh yeah give Me, the

2045
01:31:12,120 --> 01:31:15,080
Speaker 2: nightclob just go. To sleep i'm gonna fuck. All, right

2046
01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:19,880
Speaker 2: Next flannelson jet says a regular around. These parts after,

2047
01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:22,679
Speaker 2: our olobskill here we Go after olowski WINNING the bkfc.

2048
01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:25,800
Speaker 2: Heavyweight title how good question because he didn't really answer. This,

2049
01:31:25,880 --> 01:31:28,400
Speaker 2: one okay how should this combat sports legacy?

2050
01:31:28,479 --> 01:31:28,519
Speaker 8: Be.

2051
01:31:28,680 --> 01:31:32,800
Speaker 2: Defined chuck does this late career success elevate him as

2052
01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:36,439
Speaker 2: a rare multi era combat athlete or is his legacy

2053
01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:40,560
Speaker 2: still primarily as A former ufc heavyweight CHAMPION with bkfc

2054
01:31:40,720 --> 01:31:42,760
Speaker 2: as a sort of a. Separate chapter how do you

2055
01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:44,360
Speaker 2: how do you? Assess them that is a.

2056
01:31:44,479 --> 01:31:45,560
Speaker 3: Great question it is a.

2057
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:47,519
Speaker 4: Great question what do you THINK of, i, mean HONESTLY

2058
01:31:47,560 --> 01:31:48,840
Speaker 4: when i think, OF him i still think OF the

2059
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:51,880
Speaker 4: ufc champion from, Way BACK like i still look at

2060
01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:53,920
Speaker 4: him and, like that which is kind, of crazy because,

2061
01:31:53,960 --> 01:31:56,360
Speaker 4: he has, you know the affliction shows when He fought

2062
01:31:56,439 --> 01:32:01,880
Speaker 4: fador and his, IT'S like i mean two, resurrections essentially

2063
01:32:01,920 --> 01:32:04,960
Speaker 4: because he's had two. DIFFERENT times i think that that's

2064
01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:06,640
Speaker 4: actually what would stand out to me in, the end

2065
01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:12,799
Speaker 4: is just that his perseverance and adaptability to a heavyweight

2066
01:32:12,840 --> 01:32:16,360
Speaker 4: division where guys just can't sustain for as long as.

2067
01:32:16,360 --> 01:32:17,639
Speaker 3: They did like, you said we were Calling.

2068
01:32:17,760 --> 01:32:20,040
Speaker 4: Him chinney he had that, moment WHERE like, i was

2069
01:32:20,120 --> 01:32:22,360
Speaker 4: during that fade or streak where he got knocked out

2070
01:32:22,360 --> 01:32:24,400
Speaker 4: a bunch, of times he was able to come back

2071
01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:25,960
Speaker 4: and put together, one street but then he had, another

2072
01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:28,400
Speaker 4: One Right like i'm not looking at, his page but

2073
01:32:28,479 --> 01:32:30,200
Speaker 4: he had another one where he lost like four or

2074
01:32:30,240 --> 01:32:31,920
Speaker 4: five fights in, a row and, you, think well this

2075
01:32:32,080 --> 01:32:34,800
Speaker 4: is certainly it because you can't, do that and.

2076
01:32:34,920 --> 01:32:35,920
Speaker 3: He did he came.

2077
01:32:36,040 --> 01:32:39,560
Speaker 4: Back AGAIN and i felt like he worked with, you

2078
01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:42,400
Speaker 4: know his Coaches in albuquerque at that time to just kind, of,

2079
01:32:42,479 --> 01:32:46,880
Speaker 4: like hey HOW do i keep going with a sense of?

2080
01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:47,160
Speaker 3: Self?

2081
01:32:47,200 --> 01:32:49,640
Speaker 4: Preservation right and it became a little, more boring but

2082
01:32:49,720 --> 01:32:52,280
Speaker 4: he was able to. DO that i think the perseverance

2083
01:32:52,360 --> 01:32:54,080
Speaker 4: actually is Probably what i'll think of in.

2084
01:32:54,160 --> 01:32:55,439
Speaker 3: The end there's NO.

2085
01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:58,400
Speaker 2: Question i want to tell. A story so He's he

2086
01:32:58,960 --> 01:33:02,120
Speaker 2: he's he loses back. To back this is two thousand,

2087
01:33:02,120 --> 01:33:04,479
Speaker 2: and one two thousand. And two he loses back to

2088
01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:07,120
Speaker 2: Back To rigo Rodriguez And, pedro, hiszo right and so

2089
01:33:07,160 --> 01:33:09,280
Speaker 2: THIS is ufc thirty two and, thirty six a long.

2090
01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:11,479
Speaker 2: Time ago and then he goes on an incredible. Win

2091
01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:14,080
Speaker 2: streak He beats Ian The, machine freeman He beats Vladimirer.

2092
01:33:14,120 --> 01:33:16,439
Speaker 2: Mett ushenko that was a. Big win He Beats, cabbage

2093
01:33:16,479 --> 01:33:18,800
Speaker 2: carrera which at the time was a. Big win then

2094
01:33:18,840 --> 01:33:21,559
Speaker 2: He Beats tim silvia that was for. A belt then

2095
01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:23,559
Speaker 2: He Beats, justin eilers he knocked him out the, First

2096
01:33:23,600 --> 01:33:26,719
Speaker 2: round elers was a big guy out of of militic.

2097
01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:31,559
Speaker 2: Fighting symptems then He Ko's paul bwintello in fifteen seconds

2098
01:33:31,880 --> 01:33:33,479
Speaker 2: and this is when he had this was. Big hair

2099
01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:37,360
Speaker 2: arlovsky loses back to Back To, Tim sylvia i'll taste My,

2100
01:33:37,479 --> 01:33:40,439
Speaker 2: Pp los i'll Taste. My ppa but then goes on

2101
01:33:40,640 --> 01:33:43,439
Speaker 2: an incredible. Win streak He, beats petapano who was a

2102
01:33:43,439 --> 01:33:45,600
Speaker 2: big jiu jitsu guy at, The Time, marcio cruz he

2103
01:33:45,680 --> 01:33:48,479
Speaker 2: Beats For busio verdom as, you Indicated beats. Jac O'Brien

2104
01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:51,439
Speaker 2: then Over, at affliction he Knocked Out ben rothwell in.

2105
01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:53,680
Speaker 2: Round three that was a. Big win and then IN

2106
01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:57,240
Speaker 2: lit xc he Knocked Out. Roy, Nelson okay so then

2107
01:33:57,320 --> 01:34:00,759
Speaker 2: He fights fador and he gets knocked Out. At affliction

2108
01:34:01,320 --> 01:34:03,240
Speaker 2: then he follows that up with losing in the first

2109
01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:07,719
Speaker 2: round in twenty two Seconds To, brett, rodgers. Right okay

2110
01:34:08,360 --> 01:34:11,400
Speaker 2: then he Loses To bigfoot Silva And, strike force And

2111
01:34:11,560 --> 01:34:14,560
Speaker 2: Then sergei heratanov knocked him out in two and a,

2112
01:34:14,560 --> 01:34:17,280
Speaker 2: half Minutes AND chuck i was at that Event When

2113
01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:19,400
Speaker 2: sergi heratanov knocked, him out and IN fact i had

2114
01:34:19,400 --> 01:34:21,519
Speaker 2: a terrible SEAT. Because sctt cooker didn't, like me and

2115
01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:24,519
Speaker 2: he gave me the worst media. Seat imaginable but what

2116
01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:26,400
Speaker 2: it did was it gave me the spot where the

2117
01:34:26,479 --> 01:34:29,719
Speaker 2: losing fighter would walk past. En Route And greg jackson

2118
01:34:29,800 --> 01:34:32,040
Speaker 2: was cornering him at, the Time and i'll never forget

2119
01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:35,400
Speaker 2: the look On our alovsky's face because he had lost

2120
01:34:35,479 --> 01:34:38,200
Speaker 2: four in a row at. That, point yeah three of them,

2121
01:34:38,240 --> 01:34:41,000
Speaker 2: by stoppage and the three of them by stoppers were

2122
01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:43,840
Speaker 2: all in the, first ROUND and i remember him having this,

2123
01:34:44,120 --> 01:34:48,519
Speaker 2: vacant look absolute disbelief on, his FACE like i don't

2124
01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:52,200
Speaker 2: know how to, get right. But chuck he would go

2125
01:34:52,360 --> 01:34:55,040
Speaker 2: on a pretty incredible. Win streak He'd Beat, ray lopez,

2126
01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:57,759
Speaker 2: After That, travis fulton he had that shitty ass rematch

2127
01:34:57,800 --> 01:34:59,680
Speaker 2: Again With tim sylvia and one no one, remembers it

2128
01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:02,679
Speaker 2: and he gets two more wins in like. Reagionable promotions

2129
01:35:03,120 --> 01:35:06,240
Speaker 2: he goes to the second Event Of world Series Of Fighting,

2130
01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:11,200
Speaker 2: anthony johnson rearranges his teeth so he loses, that bout

2131
01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:15,160
Speaker 2: then goes on another win streak where He Beats mike kyle,

2132
01:35:15,280 --> 01:35:17,280
Speaker 2: SOMEONE dude i can't. Even pronounce He Beats, brendan shab

2133
01:35:17,400 --> 01:35:20,479
Speaker 2: He Beats, antonio silva He Beats, travis brown He beats

2134
01:35:20,520 --> 01:35:24,839
Speaker 2: frank fucking mir then he goes on another, Losing streak.

2135
01:35:25,720 --> 01:35:29,680
Speaker 2: Steve A Miocic, Overarene Barnett, Francis Senganu, marching taibora and

2136
01:35:29,720 --> 01:35:31,840
Speaker 2: he's been kind of up and, down since although he's

2137
01:35:31,880 --> 01:35:35,400
Speaker 2: had some streaks there. As well but the, reality is

2138
01:35:35,560 --> 01:35:37,600
Speaker 2: did he achieve the highest heights in. The sport, he

2139
01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:40,640
Speaker 2: did he BECAME a. Ufc champion but that level, of

2140
01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:45,800
Speaker 2: reinvention that level of finding a new groove to then

2141
01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:48,040
Speaker 2: use that as long as, it goes And then i'm

2142
01:35:48,040 --> 01:35:49,760
Speaker 2: going to find another one to take that as long as,

2143
01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:54,120
Speaker 2: It goes and just the hard yards that this guy

2144
01:35:54,200 --> 01:35:56,920
Speaker 2: has put in is one of the most Remarkable things i've.

2145
01:35:56,920 --> 01:35:59,759
Speaker 4: Ever seen not many people live to hear eulogy's written,

2146
01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:01,760
Speaker 4: about him like. Three times you know this.

2147
01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:02,360
Speaker 3: Guy did.

2148
01:36:03,080 --> 01:36:05,880
Speaker 2: It's, insane man They've been i've been one. Of them

2149
01:36:05,960 --> 01:36:09,120
Speaker 2: i've been one. OF them i still remember the look

2150
01:36:09,160 --> 01:36:11,640
Speaker 2: on his face when he walked past. Me after is

2151
01:36:11,680 --> 01:36:13,479
Speaker 2: that a new jersey was at that event that was

2152
01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:15,920
Speaker 2: At The Eyes. On, center yes they put the real

2153
01:36:16,040 --> 01:36:19,360
Speaker 2: Media That scott coker liked in the penalty box and

2154
01:36:19,400 --> 01:36:22,439
Speaker 2: then they put me by the pyrotechnics and it singed

2155
01:36:22,479 --> 01:36:24,600
Speaker 2: the back of. My, neck yeah hoping you might catch. On,

2156
01:36:24,680 --> 01:36:27,080
Speaker 2: fire yeah, it's, like listen could you never come to?

2157
01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:28,840
Speaker 2: This again please Don't?

2158
01:36:28,840 --> 01:36:31,320
Speaker 7: Worry scott, All Right scott coker didn't, like, you.

2159
01:36:31,600 --> 01:36:33,439
Speaker 3: No DUDE he, i mean he fronted like, he did but.

2160
01:36:33,520 --> 01:36:34,360
Speaker 3: He didn't, he didn't.

2161
01:36:34,640 --> 01:36:39,760
Speaker 2: All right next Question From, John Winkle fred Thoughts On

2162
01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:43,720
Speaker 2: craig Jones Versus dylan dannis AT C j. I three

2163
01:36:43,760 --> 01:36:45,719
Speaker 2: i think they're calling the winner the world's greatest.

2164
01:36:45,840 --> 01:36:49,840
Speaker 7: Grappler advantage you know this, was, HAPPENING man i didn't

2165
01:36:49,840 --> 01:36:50,680
Speaker 7: even know what do?

2166
01:36:50,760 --> 01:36:52,800
Speaker 3: You think this is? YOUR realm i.

2167
01:36:52,920 --> 01:36:55,840
Speaker 2: LOVE it i love It because dannis is probably still

2168
01:36:55,880 --> 01:36:57,599
Speaker 2: going to be pretty good on. The ground he's probably

2169
01:36:57,600 --> 01:36:59,800
Speaker 2: not gonna be as good as he. Once was craig

2170
01:36:59,920 --> 01:37:02,120
Speaker 2: is a higher level and has always been a, higher

2171
01:37:02,200 --> 01:37:06,519
Speaker 2: LEVEL so I think craig should probably, Win This but

2172
01:37:06,760 --> 01:37:10,519
Speaker 2: dannis is. A troll dannis will probably still show Up

2173
01:37:11,160 --> 01:37:15,519
Speaker 2: Like gable steveson was playing fuck games, with them, you

2174
01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:17,519
Speaker 2: know and then bitched out at the. LAST minute i

2175
01:37:17,600 --> 01:37:20,040
Speaker 2: think you can Count On dylan dannis to, be, There,

2176
01:37:20,160 --> 01:37:21,800
Speaker 2: right okay THAT'S what i was. JUST gonna i Saw

2177
01:37:21,920 --> 01:37:23,680
Speaker 2: The Long island luke make a little note. ABOUT that i,

2178
01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:27,080
Speaker 2: was like do you think he? Shows up this is you.

2179
01:37:27,040 --> 01:37:30,479
Speaker 3: Don't think he? Shows? Up why that's the gambling troll for.

2180
01:37:30,600 --> 01:37:33,160
Speaker 7: Like signing these things and never actually going.

2181
01:37:33,240 --> 01:37:35,160
Speaker 3: Through, it yeah but it's sport. JIU jitsu i, mean.

2182
01:37:35,200 --> 01:37:37,960
Speaker 7: Yeah but that's exactly the one thing he's actually. Good

2183
01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:40,040
Speaker 7: at so he'll actually like lose pride.

2184
01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:42,160
Speaker 3: And, spiritual yeah like he loses.

2185
01:37:42,240 --> 01:37:44,240
Speaker 7: In boxing no one expects him to win. In boxing,

2186
01:37:44,320 --> 01:37:45,000
Speaker 7: you know it's kind of.

2187
01:37:45,080 --> 01:37:48,200
Speaker 4: Like that's it is interesting. That, way dude he had

2188
01:37:48,360 --> 01:37:50,240
Speaker 4: such a buzz on his name when he first.

2189
01:37:50,400 --> 01:37:50,719
Speaker 3: Was coming.

2190
01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:53,600
Speaker 4: Remember, That god it's like just he was such a

2191
01:37:54,160 --> 01:37:56,840
Speaker 4: like he's such a wizard in the jiu JITs world

2192
01:37:56,880 --> 01:37:58,920
Speaker 4: that everybody talked. TO about i remember, talking to, you

2193
01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:00,679
Speaker 4: know just People In new york and, they're like watch

2194
01:38:00,720 --> 01:38:01,760
Speaker 4: Out For. Dylan day he's a young.

2195
01:38:01,840 --> 01:38:05,080
Speaker 2: Kid still Like The Marcella Garcia Brown Belt. All stars

2196
01:38:05,240 --> 01:38:09,000
Speaker 2: it was Him And, Jonathan Satava. Mateo's denise it was

2197
01:38:09,080 --> 01:38:11,120
Speaker 2: all these guys who Were All brown belts and then

2198
01:38:11,120 --> 01:38:13,080
Speaker 2: they all became and then Man sure kara and then

2199
01:38:13,080 --> 01:38:15,200
Speaker 2: they all became black belts at roughly the, same time

2200
01:38:15,240 --> 01:38:16,960
Speaker 2: and you, were, like dude these guys are tearing people.

2201
01:38:17,200 --> 01:38:19,800
Speaker 2: Man pieces and then when does that happen in this

2202
01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:23,360
Speaker 2: Thing With? Craig jones is it probably? Next summer this,

2203
01:38:23,560 --> 01:38:24,120
Speaker 2: Coming summer.

2204
01:38:24,160 --> 01:38:25,400
Speaker 3: I'M guessing, I.

2205
01:38:25,439 --> 01:38:28,840
Speaker 2: Mean i'm more intrigued by that than anything Else That

2206
01:38:28,920 --> 01:38:31,040
Speaker 2: dylan dannis has done in the last. FEW years i will, say.

2207
01:38:31,120 --> 01:38:33,760
Speaker 2: THAT yeah, I mean i don't care if he lives,

2208
01:38:33,800 --> 01:38:38,799
Speaker 2: or DIES but i think it's. All right Next probably

2209
01:38:38,920 --> 01:38:41,920
Speaker 2: brian says it COULD. Be bc who would you have

2210
01:38:42,200 --> 01:38:45,479
Speaker 2: performed At The super bowl? Next YEAR can i be honest, About,

2211
01:38:45,479 --> 01:38:47,960
Speaker 2: This listen i'm not even necessarily the Biggest bad.

2212
01:38:47,960 --> 01:38:49,680
Speaker 3: BUNNY fan i like some of. HIS stuff i know

2213
01:38:49,720 --> 01:38:51,600
Speaker 3: a few of. HIS songs i enjoyed, the show was it.

2214
01:38:51,680 --> 01:38:52,880
Speaker 3: Was cool was a.

2215
01:38:52,920 --> 01:38:55,040
Speaker 2: Pro wrestler, you know he's pretty good in. That realm but,

2216
01:38:55,160 --> 01:38:58,880
Speaker 2: GO ahead i saw that in the like, PEOPLE posted

2217
01:38:58,920 --> 01:39:01,400
Speaker 2: i didn't even know he. Did that that, was, Like,

2218
01:39:01,520 --> 01:39:05,680
Speaker 2: WOW yeah i can't believe they Haven't had metallica do.

2219
01:39:05,800 --> 01:39:09,480
Speaker 2: It yet and they Were In, san Francisco where metallica,

2220
01:39:09,640 --> 01:39:11,800
Speaker 2: is From and, i'm like don't get. Me wrong i'm

2221
01:39:11,840 --> 01:39:14,439
Speaker 2: not mad but anything, At all, but like How has

2222
01:39:14,479 --> 01:39:15,960
Speaker 2: metallica not been tapped to do.

2223
01:39:16,080 --> 01:39:18,920
Speaker 3: One of these? THINGS yet i Think, it's lars, you

2224
01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:22,720
Speaker 3: know it's like it's. A napster i. Don't know it, is,

2225
01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:23,200
Speaker 3: weird though?

2226
01:39:23,280 --> 01:39:25,280
Speaker 4: Isn't IT like i feel like anybody of, that magnitude

2227
01:39:25,360 --> 01:39:27,400
Speaker 4: especially in their backyard, like that that would have made

2228
01:39:27,400 --> 01:39:27,639
Speaker 4: a lot.

2229
01:39:27,640 --> 01:39:31,479
Speaker 2: OF sense i don't know you? Think that is that your, Prediction,

2230
01:39:31,640 --> 01:39:34,720
Speaker 2: THEN like i don't know If in la next year

2231
01:39:34,840 --> 01:39:35,559
Speaker 2: is just if that makes?

2232
01:39:35,560 --> 01:39:36,720
Speaker 3: Any, DIFFERENCE well i mean they.

2233
01:39:36,720 --> 01:39:41,120
Speaker 2: Already Did kendrick KENDRICK'S. From, La Yeah, Long, island luke

2234
01:39:41,200 --> 01:39:44,720
Speaker 2: who are? We forgetting that's like you need someone that's

2235
01:39:44,760 --> 01:39:47,960
Speaker 2: still kind? Of cool but MAYBE also i mean Because

2236
01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:50,200
Speaker 2: bad Bunny and kendrick. Are young but a lot, of

2237
01:39:50,280 --> 01:39:51,880
Speaker 2: times you, KNOW this a lot of times you. Know

2238
01:39:51,960 --> 01:39:53,720
Speaker 2: this what they'll do is they'll get like someone who's

2239
01:39:53,800 --> 01:39:56,439
Speaker 2: kind of dad. Rock cool you know they do that.

2240
01:39:56,520 --> 01:39:58,760
Speaker 2: A lot They Had green day open. THE day i

2241
01:39:58,840 --> 01:40:00,640
Speaker 2: was just, Gonna Say green day would have been a.

2242
01:40:00,720 --> 01:40:01,760
Speaker 2: SOLID call i Feel Like.

2243
01:40:01,760 --> 01:40:03,400
Speaker 3: Green Day green day has got a. Million hits you

2244
01:40:03,400 --> 01:40:03,840
Speaker 3: could have done.

2245
01:40:03,880 --> 01:40:06,040
Speaker 7: With Them Red chili pepper is another band that has

2246
01:40:06,080 --> 01:40:06,400
Speaker 7: like a ton.

2247
01:40:06,479 --> 01:40:08,360
Speaker 2: Of hits i'm still over those motherfucking.

2248
01:40:08,600 --> 01:40:10,320
Speaker 7: SAME here i feel like everybody talked to, says this

2249
01:40:10,840 --> 01:40:13,200
Speaker 7: It's Funny Black. Eyed peas have they ever done when

2250
01:40:13,200 --> 01:40:13,400
Speaker 7: they got?

2251
01:40:13,479 --> 01:40:15,719
Speaker 3: To talk And also i'd rather just eat. A bullet

2252
01:40:15,840 --> 01:40:16,160
Speaker 3: i'm just.

2253
01:40:16,200 --> 01:40:20,720
Speaker 7: Thinking of BANDS that. I like i, Don't, know man eminemm.

2254
01:40:20,280 --> 01:40:23,080
Speaker 3: They Did eminem they did win. Him, once yeah that

2255
01:40:23,160 --> 01:40:23,720
Speaker 3: was when it was like.

2256
01:40:25,560 --> 01:40:27,560
Speaker 7: Yeah and kendrick, ACTUALLY.

2257
01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:29,280
Speaker 2: Yeah i mean obviously they were trying. To go they're

2258
01:40:29,280 --> 01:40:31,439
Speaker 2: trying to do like an international, audience thing which is

2259
01:40:31,479 --> 01:40:32,439
Speaker 2: why they did what. THEY did.

2260
01:40:34,160 --> 01:40:36,640
Speaker 3: I had relatives, and dude this. Is true this is a.

2261
01:40:36,680 --> 01:40:39,920
Speaker 2: TRUE story i had Relatives in colombia sign Up For

2262
01:40:40,400 --> 01:40:43,000
Speaker 2: disney plus last night so they could Watch The bad

2263
01:40:43,040 --> 01:40:45,160
Speaker 2: bunny halftime just to see, that part just to. See,

2264
01:40:45,200 --> 01:40:48,200
Speaker 2: it yeah because he. Just did he just did a

2265
01:40:48,240 --> 01:40:50,680
Speaker 2: couple of Concerts In meta gene and it was like a.

2266
01:40:51,280 --> 01:40:55,800
Speaker 2: Huge deal So He's, puerto rican but they they love him,

2267
01:40:55,840 --> 01:40:59,360
Speaker 2: done there so it'd be interesting. To See tim luck

2268
01:40:59,479 --> 01:41:03,360
Speaker 2: is the ONE that i think act because they everybody.

2269
01:41:03,439 --> 01:41:05,240
Speaker 2: KNOWS that, i mean they like those bands where they

2270
01:41:05,240 --> 01:41:06,840
Speaker 2: can just kind of roll out there will Hit Like bruce.

2271
01:41:06,920 --> 01:41:08,479
Speaker 2: Bereenstein bag, you know he could just do a little

2272
01:41:09,760 --> 01:41:11,439
Speaker 2: medley and, everybody's like, oh god this.

2273
01:41:11,520 --> 01:41:13,800
Speaker 3: One too you know that's what. They like so you

2274
01:41:13,880 --> 01:41:14,320
Speaker 3: know what would?

2275
01:41:14,360 --> 01:41:16,840
Speaker 2: Fucking SLAY and i, MEAN this i know he now

2276
01:41:16,920 --> 01:41:21,200
Speaker 2: looks like an. Aging Lesbian But, axel rose if you

2277
01:41:21,439 --> 01:41:24,520
Speaker 2: got an if you've Got A Guns N' roses metallica

2278
01:41:24,680 --> 01:41:28,519
Speaker 2: crossover show where like all the Guys in metallica Are

2279
01:41:28,600 --> 01:41:32,400
Speaker 2: helping Axel and Slash Play november rain, and, SHIT yeah

2280
01:41:33,560 --> 01:41:34,719
Speaker 2: i mean you're forty six.

2281
01:41:34,680 --> 01:41:36,920
Speaker 3: YEAR old wli. GUY talking i have no. Fucking idea

2282
01:41:36,920 --> 01:41:39,439
Speaker 3: what's gus being transported right back the nineteen. Ninety TWO

2283
01:41:39,760 --> 01:41:39,960
Speaker 3: but i.

2284
01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:41,040
Speaker 2: Gotta, TELL you i feel like that.

2285
01:41:41,040 --> 01:41:42,720
Speaker 3: WOULD bang i feel like that.

2286
01:41:42,760 --> 01:41:46,280
Speaker 4: WOULD bang i don't Know if axel's vocals, hold UP

2287
01:41:46,400 --> 01:41:48,479
Speaker 4: like i keep seeing people post like him.

2288
01:41:48,520 --> 01:41:51,160
Speaker 2: Trying TO so i, saw HIM and i saw him

2289
01:41:51,200 --> 01:41:53,040
Speaker 2: maybe four, years ago maybe a little bit less.

2290
01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:53,639
Speaker 3: Than three.

2291
01:41:55,880 --> 01:41:59,200
Speaker 2: He he is not the maestro of. That anymore slash

2292
01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:01,600
Speaker 2: is The. Mytro Yeah so slash is the one that

2293
01:42:01,680 --> 01:42:05,120
Speaker 2: plays everything. No breaks he has a guitar closet to

2294
01:42:05,240 --> 01:42:07,240
Speaker 2: the side of the stage that, IS like, i mean

2295
01:42:07,240 --> 01:42:09,640
Speaker 2: you could it's a walk in closet of guitars and

2296
01:42:09,760 --> 01:42:11,559
Speaker 2: he has two guitar texts on him at.

2297
01:42:11,560 --> 01:42:13,040
Speaker 3: All times and then what.

2298
01:42:13,120 --> 01:42:15,200
Speaker 2: Happens is as they're switching a slash out and he's,

2299
01:42:15,200 --> 01:42:17,800
Speaker 2: Playing songs axel goes and takes a break and then

2300
01:42:17,880 --> 01:42:20,880
Speaker 2: changes clothes and like refreshes his voice and then comes

2301
01:42:20,960 --> 01:42:23,519
Speaker 2: back for. The hits so but but but the halftime

2302
01:42:23,560 --> 01:42:26,080
Speaker 2: show is what? Thirteen minutes like you could take, a break?

2303
01:42:26,160 --> 01:42:29,120
Speaker 3: You know, all, right sold let's do, that one?

2304
01:42:29,720 --> 01:42:29,800
Speaker 5: All?

2305
01:42:29,920 --> 01:42:33,280
Speaker 2: Right Next If dying fetus, Isn't, Available Yeah dan fetus

2306
01:42:33,360 --> 01:42:33,880
Speaker 2: obviously let me.

2307
01:42:33,960 --> 01:42:34,439
Speaker 7: That one.

2308
01:42:36,439 --> 01:42:38,679
Speaker 2: If you both had to compete In A winter, olympics

2309
01:42:38,720 --> 01:42:41,080
Speaker 2: event which one are? YOU choosing i wouldn't be doing

2310
01:42:41,160 --> 01:42:44,920
Speaker 2: the whatever. That Whatever lindsay vaughn crashed, on man did you?

2311
01:42:45,000 --> 01:42:45,160
Speaker 3: See?

2312
01:42:45,200 --> 01:42:49,639
Speaker 4: That, yeah, like dude That's a they had a drone

2313
01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:53,840
Speaker 4: following like somebody else on that like that downhill speed whatever,

2314
01:42:53,920 --> 01:42:55,760
Speaker 4: that is and they're moving it.

2315
01:42:55,920 --> 01:42:57,519
Speaker 3: So fast it's like, it's, like bro.

2316
01:42:57,840 --> 01:43:00,760
Speaker 2: They they had an they had a miles hour clock in.

2317
01:43:00,840 --> 01:43:03,799
Speaker 2: The corner they were going eighty miles.

2318
01:43:03,920 --> 01:43:08,040
Speaker 3: An hour it's, just. INSANE man i was just Called downhill.

2319
01:43:08,200 --> 01:43:11,679
Speaker 7: Alpine, skiing, yeah, No nothing i'm doing some shit.

2320
01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:15,560
Speaker 3: Like, curling yeah curling would be. My speed is this? A?

2321
01:43:15,720 --> 01:43:16,680
Speaker 3: Archery boarding like.

2322
01:43:16,760 --> 01:43:20,240
Speaker 8: Some shit i'd, go snowboarding Not that i've, ever been but,

2323
01:43:20,320 --> 01:43:21,840
Speaker 8: YOU know i grew. UP skateboarding i feel like I'd,

2324
01:43:21,840 --> 01:43:23,920
Speaker 8: be yeah. He's snowboarding i'm.

2325
01:43:23,840 --> 01:43:27,360
Speaker 2: Not Anything where i'm airborne and then half. The, land nah, not,

2326
01:43:27,479 --> 01:43:29,559
Speaker 2: anymore man not my, big ass NOW you i grew

2327
01:43:29,640 --> 01:43:31,680
Speaker 2: Up in COLORADO and i used to snowboard back in.

2328
01:43:31,680 --> 01:43:34,040
Speaker 3: The, day dude it'd. Kill, me now there's.

2329
01:43:34,080 --> 01:43:36,240
Speaker 2: No way my daughter goes roller skating and, she's like

2330
01:43:36,240 --> 01:43:37,960
Speaker 2: why don't you go roller skating? With me, it's LIKE

2331
01:43:38,040 --> 01:43:40,320
Speaker 2: because i don't want to be PARALYZED.

2332
01:43:41,880 --> 01:43:42,040
Speaker 3: If.

2333
01:43:42,120 --> 01:43:44,760
Speaker 2: I fall it is? IT is, i mean it's just

2334
01:43:44,840 --> 01:43:46,640
Speaker 2: the world CRASHES when i.

2335
01:43:46,720 --> 01:43:48,720
Speaker 3: Come down little kids. Understand that they're, just like what

2336
01:43:48,800 --> 01:43:52,400
Speaker 3: are you? Talking about, Come on it's Like like i'm

2337
01:43:52,560 --> 01:43:53,160
Speaker 3: eight times?

2338
01:43:53,200 --> 01:43:53,320
Speaker 1: Your?

2339
01:43:53,400 --> 01:43:56,160
Speaker 2: Size yeah is there anything? Left anymore that?

2340
01:43:56,360 --> 01:43:56,519
Speaker 9: Is it?

2341
01:43:56,800 --> 01:43:57,080
Speaker 3: That's it?

2342
01:43:57,400 --> 01:43:57,720
Speaker 7: All right?

2343
01:43:58,160 --> 01:43:59,760
Speaker 2: Very good thank you for those and of course you

2344
01:43:59,800 --> 01:44:03,639
Speaker 2: can do THAT ON i G every sunday when we solicit.

2345
01:44:03,920 --> 01:44:05,400
Speaker 2: For comments thank you to everyone.

2346
01:44:05,439 --> 01:44:12,280
Speaker 7: Who did and now we're Gonna play. Eskimo brother you

2347
01:44:16,200 --> 01:44:16,920
Speaker 7: you guys already know.

2348
01:44:17,040 --> 01:44:19,519
Speaker 8: The drill i'll give you. Three fighters you gotta be

2349
01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:23,840
Speaker 8: the first to name their. Mutual opponent so, First Up

2350
01:44:25,040 --> 01:44:26,680
Speaker 8: Johnny hendricks israel Out Of.

2351
01:44:26,760 --> 01:44:28,160
Speaker 7: Sonya, yoel.

2352
01:44:31,160 --> 01:44:34,280
Speaker 3: No, all right hold, on here let Me think.

2353
01:44:37,800 --> 01:44:39,040
Speaker 7: Guesslam Never? Fought joel?

2354
01:44:40,240 --> 01:44:42,000
Speaker 3: Mm hmm was he scheduled?

2355
01:44:42,040 --> 01:44:44,519
Speaker 7: TWO second i THOUGHT maybe I had maybe there.

2356
01:44:44,479 --> 01:44:46,160
Speaker 3: Was more than ONE answer i seem, to remember but,

2357
01:44:46,280 --> 01:44:47,240
Speaker 3: actually no.

2358
01:44:49,479 --> 01:44:49,680
Speaker 6: It Is.

2359
01:44:49,840 --> 01:44:54,000
Speaker 7: Not whittaker he Never Fought. JOHNNY hendricks i.

2360
01:44:54,120 --> 01:44:54,479
Speaker 3: Don't know.

2361
01:44:56,640 --> 01:44:59,320
Speaker 7: It's, currently ranked, currently ranked so he's.

2362
01:44:59,360 --> 01:45:06,240
Speaker 3: Still, going Okay Uh, god, costa.

2363
01:45:06,720 --> 01:45:12,400
Speaker 8: Yes, sir costa, all right look you're. Up one next

2364
01:45:12,520 --> 01:45:14,759
Speaker 8: up we got always forget about, That Dude.

2365
01:45:14,760 --> 01:45:20,439
Speaker 7: Brandon royvall Kyogi h Gucci And Ales. DeAndre pantosia, Uh.

2366
01:45:21,240 --> 01:45:27,920
Speaker 3: Um, marino, nope wait who's the first? Guy here, that's

2367
01:45:29,000 --> 01:45:31,680
Speaker 3: yes it's not?

2368
01:45:32,479 --> 01:45:32,519
Speaker 6: Is?

2369
01:45:32,600 --> 01:45:32,640
Speaker 9: It?

2370
01:45:33,160 --> 01:45:39,559
Speaker 7: Nope, Cop yes Sir, mal one. Titty big he does have.

2371
01:45:39,600 --> 01:45:41,479
Speaker 3: A big, oh yeah he's got.

2372
01:45:41,520 --> 01:45:45,280
Speaker 7: Them guys so look you're up to zip. All right

2373
01:45:45,360 --> 01:45:45,680
Speaker 7: this one.

2374
01:45:45,800 --> 01:45:49,360
Speaker 8: Is specific so because there's multiple guys who have fought

2375
01:45:49,520 --> 01:45:53,800
Speaker 8: all three, of them this man beat all three of.

2376
01:45:53,880 --> 01:45:59,080
Speaker 8: These Fighters Calvin Cater michael Johnson and dan e or,

2377
01:45:59,120 --> 01:46:00,960
Speaker 8: sorry sorry all three of them beat.

2378
01:46:01,040 --> 01:46:01,679
Speaker 3: This Man.

2379
01:46:05,960 --> 01:46:06,120
Speaker 4: Uh?

2380
01:46:07,840 --> 01:46:13,160
Speaker 3: Jesus uh so these three beat? The, guy okay, so,

2381
01:46:16,760 --> 01:46:22,840
Speaker 3: MAN bro i am out of these guys have.

2382
01:46:23,080 --> 01:46:24,800
Speaker 2: Not just a lot, of fights but then a lot

2383
01:46:24,840 --> 01:46:26,040
Speaker 2: of fights that went under. The.

2384
01:46:26,160 --> 01:46:30,519
Speaker 8: Radar YEAH so i INITIALLY when i came up with these,

2385
01:46:30,560 --> 01:46:34,040
Speaker 8: three fighters had someone. In mind then realized they all

2386
01:46:34,160 --> 01:46:37,120
Speaker 8: thought to the. Same guy SO then i took the

2387
01:46:37,120 --> 01:46:39,479
Speaker 8: guy they. All beat so if you name either of,

2388
01:46:39,520 --> 01:46:40,160
Speaker 8: The guys i'll give.

2389
01:46:40,160 --> 01:46:42,360
Speaker 3: You credit Honestly did i'm out?

2390
01:46:42,400 --> 01:46:45,280
Speaker 8: Of ideas, All, right well he's A team alpha. Male

2391
01:46:45,400 --> 01:46:48,080
Speaker 8: guy they're BOTH team alfa. Male guys actually.

2392
01:46:50,120 --> 01:46:50,519
Speaker 3: That doesn't.

2393
01:46:50,560 --> 01:46:52,920
Speaker 8: Help him how does that? Not help that's a small.

2394
01:46:53,040 --> 01:47:01,400
Speaker 8: Gym featherweight, oh, yes Yes The Green rush star that

2395
01:47:01,560 --> 01:47:05,040
Speaker 8: Also Starred, luke Thomas H Dre. Touchy feely THE person

2396
01:47:05,120 --> 01:47:06,680
Speaker 8: i had in MIND when i came up with It Was.

2397
01:47:06,760 --> 01:47:08,639
Speaker 8: Josh emmett they did all.

2398
01:47:10,040 --> 01:47:14,439
Speaker 7: They Beat. Touchy feely this it's not an intuitive game.

2399
01:47:14,479 --> 01:47:16,760
Speaker 3: For me let's try the. Next one, next up we.

2400
01:47:16,840 --> 01:47:22,160
Speaker 8: Got Heavyweight Waldo, Cortes Acosta curtis Blades And Jarseno rosen strike.

2401
01:47:22,120 --> 01:47:27,439
Speaker 3: Fought all three of. These dudes, Huh, YEAH uh i.

2402
01:47:27,479 --> 01:47:28,760
Speaker 3: Don't Know Did derek lewis fight?

2403
01:47:28,840 --> 01:47:33,880
Speaker 8: All, Three Nope derek lewis Never fought Jarsino, rosen strike.

2404
01:47:40,920 --> 01:47:49,880
Speaker 3: He didn't. Fight, HIM jeez I mean i don't know.

2405
01:47:52,439 --> 01:47:55,479
Speaker 7: Currently a top. TEN heavyweight i mean that means that.

2406
01:47:55,560 --> 01:47:59,679
Speaker 3: Means, speedback no but you're.

2407
01:48:01,080 --> 01:48:03,920
Speaker 7: Just who'd? You, say?

2408
01:48:05,080 --> 01:48:13,840
Speaker 3: NO bro i, don't know it's not. DON'T so i

2409
01:48:14,320 --> 01:48:15,400
Speaker 3: remember if you had.

2410
01:48:15,320 --> 01:48:18,360
Speaker 2: Told me gon to, your head your your family or

2411
01:48:18,400 --> 01:48:19,720
Speaker 2: gun to your family's.

2412
01:48:19,320 --> 01:48:20,360
Speaker 3: Head rather they.

2413
01:48:20,439 --> 01:48:26,479
Speaker 2: Don't live Has rosen Strike, Fought pavlovitch i'd, be, like

2414
01:48:26,560 --> 01:48:28,639
Speaker 2: no there's no way, that happened and then my family would.

2415
01:48:28,640 --> 01:48:31,880
Speaker 8: Be DEAD if i, remember correctly it was boring as

2416
01:48:31,920 --> 01:48:35,280
Speaker 8: ship maybe. FINISHED him i, don't, remember honestly. But uh

2417
01:48:35,560 --> 01:48:37,200
Speaker 8: next up We Got.

2418
01:48:38,800 --> 01:48:43,240
Speaker 7: Montana, Dela Rosa amanda Hebas And, Tisha, Torres Pennington.

2419
01:48:46,080 --> 01:48:53,360
Speaker 2: Angela, hill no but Good Guess hannah, cypher's no. You

2420
01:48:53,479 --> 01:48:57,400
Speaker 2: Know brian campbell IS just, i mean, RIGHT now.

2421
01:48:58,880 --> 01:49:01,040
Speaker 7: I mean you guys should you guys should, Know this

2422
01:49:01,200 --> 01:49:01,519
Speaker 7: That's all.

2423
01:49:01,520 --> 01:49:03,479
Speaker 3: I'll say should?

2424
01:49:03,520 --> 01:49:03,560
Speaker 8: We?

2425
01:49:04,040 --> 01:49:04,320
Speaker 3: Really?

2426
01:49:04,720 --> 01:49:11,040
Speaker 7: YES uh i don't.

2427
01:49:11,080 --> 01:49:11,479
Speaker 3: Fucking Know.

2428
01:49:14,080 --> 01:49:19,320
Speaker 7: Want andy guesses a top five strawwaight.

2429
01:49:21,000 --> 01:49:30,200
Speaker 2: Top five strawaight Strawwaight Janjer, roba nope It's Not Waylee,

2430
01:49:30,560 --> 01:49:36,800
Speaker 2: Amanda Nope. Jan NOPE who.

2431
01:49:38,360 --> 01:49:45,200
Speaker 7: Ufc Champion, mackenzie god that's HER official ufc headshot right. There,

2432
01:49:45,240 --> 01:49:47,080
Speaker 7: too yeah this.

2433
01:49:47,200 --> 01:49:50,479
Speaker 3: Is where you guys. Would Lose. Brian, campbell, BRIAN guys

2434
01:49:50,479 --> 01:49:51,080
Speaker 3: i need admnut it.

2435
01:49:51,120 --> 01:49:55,840
Speaker 8: To, Myself okay so this one is this guy beat all?

2436
01:49:56,000 --> 01:50:01,280
Speaker 8: Three fighters so Who Beat, Kevin Holland mike Perry and Jafel?

2437
01:50:01,320 --> 01:50:02,000
Speaker 7: Dos? Aos?

2438
01:50:03,400 --> 01:50:03,599
Speaker 3: Oh?

2439
01:50:03,800 --> 01:50:04,519
Speaker 2: Man uh.

2440
01:50:07,320 --> 01:50:09,320
Speaker 3: Is this relatively recent that he Beat? Dos?

2441
01:50:09,360 --> 01:50:13,479
Speaker 7: Angos, Yeah yeah rdia is the most recent of the.

2442
01:50:13,560 --> 01:50:14,120
Speaker 7: Three Wins.

2443
01:50:15,160 --> 01:50:18,080
Speaker 3: Brunson rdia.

2444
01:50:20,560 --> 01:50:23,960
Speaker 2: Oh, my, GOD dude i don't. FUCKING know, i Can't

2445
01:50:24,160 --> 01:50:27,320
Speaker 2: can't mike get pared? My, brain yeah this is this.

2446
01:50:27,479 --> 01:50:32,400
Speaker 7: Is tough he's currently top fifteen welterweight.

2447
01:50:32,840 --> 01:50:39,360
Speaker 2: And the welterweight top Fifteen Welterweight, Nico Wait, Jeff, Neil?

2448
01:50:39,760 --> 01:50:42,920
Speaker 7: Yes jef oh not sure?

2449
01:50:42,960 --> 01:50:43,080
Speaker 5: How?

2450
01:50:43,120 --> 01:50:43,160
Speaker 9: That?

2451
01:50:45,160 --> 01:50:45,400
Speaker 3: Sorry?

2452
01:50:45,479 --> 01:50:49,240
Speaker 8: Yeah, Uh Anyways vicente luca also fought, all Three But

2453
01:50:49,320 --> 01:50:50,080
Speaker 8: jeff neil beat?

2454
01:50:50,120 --> 01:50:53,200
Speaker 3: ALL three, i? See, Okay okay next up We.

2455
01:50:53,280 --> 01:50:59,800
Speaker 7: Got, Jose Aldo cody Garbrandt And Sergio. Pettis, battista, no

2456
01:51:08,479 --> 01:51:10,919
Speaker 7: god Oh garb.

2457
01:51:16,680 --> 01:51:18,160
Speaker 3: Rob, font, yes.

2458
01:51:20,800 --> 01:51:21,280
Speaker 7: Good good.

2459
01:51:21,400 --> 01:51:26,120
Speaker 3: Job there thanks at least accessing information. RIGHT now I can't.

2460
01:51:26,800 --> 01:51:30,599
Speaker 8: Chuck's just blanket. On everything next up We Got, Liz

2461
01:51:30,680 --> 01:51:32,280
Speaker 8: Carmouche holly Holme And.

2462
01:51:32,439 --> 01:51:37,600
Speaker 7: Kitlyn. VIEIRA oh i.

2463
01:51:37,640 --> 01:51:40,840
Speaker 3: Was Gonna say rousey up until the. In there yeah

2464
01:51:41,120 --> 01:51:59,479
Speaker 3: two of. The, three wow on, is No? It's dumont

2465
01:51:59,760 --> 01:52:04,160
Speaker 3: is It Schiff chenko no to both? Of, those okay looking?

2466
01:52:04,280 --> 01:52:08,280
Speaker 8: Right now she is currently ranked at, bantam weight women's

2467
01:52:08,320 --> 01:52:09,560
Speaker 8: bandom weight obviously.

2468
01:52:09,240 --> 01:52:11,439
Speaker 3: Women's, bantam weight. Pantom weight.

2469
01:52:13,479 --> 01:52:28,280
Speaker 7: Uh, Former, Champion oh, Penya Nope, pennington, NOPE.

2470
01:52:33,560 --> 01:52:35,560
Speaker 3: Man i don't fucking know a.

2471
01:52:35,680 --> 01:52:39,559
Speaker 8: Former champ some would say her nickname is pretty sweet,

2472
01:52:41,400 --> 01:52:45,240
Speaker 8: an indulgent like, you Know Maybe quillen salkild's family would

2473
01:52:45,280 --> 01:52:47,120
Speaker 8: be baking one of these in the oven.

2474
01:52:50,680 --> 01:52:54,519
Speaker 7: Cake jes the OTHER two i would. Have got she's, still,

2475
01:52:54,640 --> 01:52:59,200
Speaker 7: ranked yes. Still ranked so here's here's.

2476
01:52:59,000 --> 01:53:01,160
Speaker 8: A lovely photo of Her And brian caraway ON the

2477
01:53:01,240 --> 01:53:04,320
Speaker 8: atv he allegedly may or may not have tried to

2478
01:53:04,479 --> 01:53:05,360
Speaker 8: take back in the.

2479
01:53:05,439 --> 01:53:07,680
Speaker 7: Messy DIVORCE but i just want to bring up this

2480
01:53:07,840 --> 01:53:09,400
Speaker 7: picture is On trip.

2481
01:53:09,200 --> 01:53:12,760
Speaker 8: Advisor and it's under like UH a tv tour and

2482
01:53:12,840 --> 01:53:15,439
Speaker 8: it's like Couple of Misha and brian enjoying a great

2483
01:53:15,520 --> 01:53:15,760
Speaker 8: day on.

2484
01:53:15,880 --> 01:53:19,080
Speaker 7: The trails, yeah, so uh Pretty Outdated. Trip advisor get

2485
01:53:19,160 --> 01:53:19,760
Speaker 7: on your ship.

2486
01:53:19,960 --> 01:53:22,960
Speaker 8: All right, next, up guys We Got, Johnny Walker Alex,

2487
01:53:23,040 --> 01:53:24,160
Speaker 8: poeton Pereira And.

2488
01:53:24,360 --> 01:53:30,120
Speaker 7: Anthony smith, oh boy there's two answers for.

2489
01:53:30,200 --> 01:53:32,640
Speaker 3: This One Jamal hill, no.

2490
01:53:35,800 --> 01:53:41,360
Speaker 8: Nope small hill was scheduled to fight any not Circing.

2491
01:53:41,439 --> 01:53:51,439
Speaker 2: Off, blahovich, nope, no no because he Didn't fight smith

2492
01:53:52,520 --> 01:54:01,040
Speaker 2: Like Gust of. Sin, mhmm dude what the fuck are?

2493
01:54:01,120 --> 01:54:07,800
Speaker 8: These questions those top ten light heavyweights? Right, Now, rackage no.

2494
01:54:08,640 --> 01:54:10,759
Speaker 3: It's not Spam because span, didn't fight.

2495
01:54:11,680 --> 01:54:15,000
Speaker 8: Then moved up to, heavyweight too but currently top ten light.

2496
01:54:15,040 --> 01:54:17,440
Speaker 8: HEAVY current.

2497
01:54:20,000 --> 01:54:22,000
Speaker 2: I can't Get Over johnny walker just looking like a.

2498
01:54:22,080 --> 01:54:26,799
Speaker 3: Fucking maniac oh, MAN um.

2499
01:54:28,400 --> 01:54:30,360
Speaker 7: I need to start looking at the. Rankings more apparently,

2500
01:54:32,480 --> 01:54:36,680
Speaker 7: all right two, of them, both answers Lost to poeton in.

2501
01:54:36,840 --> 01:54:37,560
Speaker 7: Title Fights.

2502
01:54:40,160 --> 01:54:43,080
Speaker 8: Khalil Rowntree khalil rowntree is one of, the answers and

2503
01:54:43,160 --> 01:54:44,880
Speaker 8: technically the other guy also beat him in a.

2504
01:54:44,960 --> 01:54:48,280
Speaker 7: Title fight big hint there, you, Know yes.

2505
01:54:48,480 --> 01:54:52,080
Speaker 2: KHALIL round i completely forgot That on Caliah. FOUGHT smith

2506
01:54:53,360 --> 01:54:55,680
Speaker 2: i did do, all.

2507
01:54:55,760 --> 01:55:01,360
Speaker 8: Right guys last one We gotowing Michael Chan islam makachev And,

2508
01:55:01,560 --> 01:55:04,040
Speaker 8: Al Iaquinta long island's best real.

2509
01:55:04,160 --> 01:55:18,040
Speaker 3: Estate agent, oh Man? Why? Connor, no nope, OH man

2510
01:55:19,400 --> 01:55:21,360
Speaker 3: i mean give me a. Fucking. Hint bro this ship.

2511
01:55:22,720 --> 01:55:27,280
Speaker 7: He just fought like within the last. Two weeks.

2512
01:55:29,960 --> 01:55:32,640
Speaker 3: And Is, it uh it's Not? Dary yush?

2513
01:55:32,760 --> 01:55:32,800
Speaker 8: Is?

2514
01:55:32,840 --> 01:55:33,640
Speaker 7: It, no no.

2515
01:55:37,840 --> 01:55:41,120
Speaker 8: Our Good Friend oscar Willis may or may not Sleep? On, hooker,

2516
01:55:41,520 --> 01:55:44,160
Speaker 8: Yes hangman.

2517
01:55:43,920 --> 01:55:47,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, this, game, YEAH dude I mean Hooker. Versus iaquinta

2518
01:55:47,480 --> 01:55:49,520
Speaker 2: if you asked me to tell you one thing about,

2519
01:55:49,520 --> 01:55:50,920
Speaker 2: that fight my whole family would have.

2520
01:55:50,920 --> 01:55:51,920
Speaker 3: To die it was a, NAME event.

2521
01:55:52,000 --> 01:55:52,840
Speaker 7: I believe.

2522
01:55:54,560 --> 01:55:56,480
Speaker 2: Do you know How Like savannah guthrie's mom was like

2523
01:55:56,600 --> 01:55:59,680
Speaker 2: kidnapped or whatever. For ransom if they called and they,

2524
01:55:59,720 --> 01:56:03,840
Speaker 2: were like tell me about the hooker Fight with ayaquinta

2525
01:56:03,880 --> 01:56:05,880
Speaker 2: or your, Family dies i'd, be like put my family

2526
01:56:05,920 --> 01:56:07,040
Speaker 2: on the PHONE so i can say goodbye.

2527
01:56:07,080 --> 01:56:09,800
Speaker 8: To them tell me about where the. Hookers are it

2528
01:56:09,920 --> 01:56:11,560
Speaker 8: sounded like what you were going to say. Or something,

2529
01:56:11,760 --> 01:56:13,360
Speaker 8: but guys That Was. Eskimo brothers hope you.

2530
01:56:13,480 --> 01:56:15,040
Speaker 3: Enjoyed it thank you, very, much sir we.

2531
01:56:15,160 --> 01:56:17,800
Speaker 2: Appreciate, it chuck what you got going on for, the, Week, sir.

2532
01:56:18,520 --> 01:56:21,680
Speaker 4: Well that's a. Good question that is a. Great question

2533
01:56:21,760 --> 01:56:23,360
Speaker 4: we're gonna find out because we do not HAVE a

2534
01:56:23,480 --> 01:56:25,080
Speaker 4: ufc coming up. This week, in fact we have a

2535
01:56:25,160 --> 01:56:26,520
Speaker 4: quiet weekend. Coming up don't we?

2536
01:56:26,640 --> 01:56:29,080
Speaker 2: Like it we have A, zoom well It Depends valentine's

2537
01:56:29,120 --> 01:56:33,160
Speaker 2: day for the people who, aren't, INSULS true i guess

2538
01:56:33,200 --> 01:56:33,880
Speaker 2: that could be its own.

2539
01:56:33,920 --> 01:56:36,480
Speaker 3: Fight game, oh listen You Know.

2540
01:56:36,560 --> 01:56:38,320
Speaker 2: Long island, looks like, oh, YEAH honey i have TO

2541
01:56:38,360 --> 01:56:43,160
Speaker 2: watch ufc hobbity hobbity hobbity Out On valentine's.

2542
01:56:42,600 --> 01:56:45,480
Speaker 8: Day with dana did? Me Good or hunter whoever's running the,

2543
01:56:45,480 --> 01:56:47,960
Speaker 8: company nowadays did? Me good they Were Like, valentine's day

2544
01:56:48,000 --> 01:56:50,200
Speaker 8: we'll take that weekend, off there you Got Whole?

2545
01:56:50,240 --> 01:56:53,440
Speaker 2: Long island you got big Plans For, VALENTINE.

2546
01:56:53,280 --> 01:56:55,680
Speaker 7: No i mean we'll go out, to eat. Drinks whatever,

2547
01:56:55,840 --> 01:56:57,960
Speaker 7: BUT no. I don't i don't know what we're.

2548
01:56:58,000 --> 01:57:00,480
Speaker 3: Doing yet doesn't think you're.

2549
01:57:00,360 --> 01:57:00,760
Speaker 8: Playing it a?

2550
01:57:00,840 --> 01:57:04,680
Speaker 2: WEEK ahead, i, mean WHAT bro i got Reservations for valentine's?

2551
01:57:05,760 --> 01:57:10,720
Speaker 3: Twenty five chow is overrated place you?

2552
01:57:10,800 --> 01:57:11,560
Speaker 7: Always named.

2553
01:57:13,000 --> 01:57:14,600
Speaker 3: What was the Place in philly? You went you Went.

2554
01:57:14,680 --> 01:57:16,760
Speaker 3: TO uh i went to two Places.

2555
01:57:16,800 --> 01:57:19,880
Speaker 2: IN philly i went to a Place, called elves which

2556
01:57:19,960 --> 01:57:21,880
Speaker 2: means like the time, sort of it's kind of.

2557
01:57:21,920 --> 01:57:25,840
Speaker 3: How, Translated uh and it Was a. Mexican restaurant i'd

2558
01:57:25,880 --> 01:57:26,600
Speaker 3: say it was. Pretty.

2559
01:57:26,640 --> 01:57:28,800
Speaker 2: Good yeah AND then i went to a Place Called,

2560
01:57:28,800 --> 01:57:32,640
Speaker 2: angelo's spot and that one was it's a fucking.

2561
01:57:33,720 --> 01:57:35,360
Speaker 3: Home run whoa.

2562
01:57:35,640 --> 01:57:38,480
Speaker 2: Dude Going to i'm telling you THE older i. Get

2563
01:57:38,520 --> 01:57:41,880
Speaker 2: schuck the best food you can buy is whatever place you.

2564
01:57:42,000 --> 01:57:45,160
Speaker 2: Go to what do what do they make as part

2565
01:57:45,200 --> 01:57:46,520
Speaker 2: of a cultural tradition?

2566
01:57:46,680 --> 01:57:48,520
Speaker 3: There, exactly man? Get that?

2567
01:57:49,360 --> 01:57:53,400
Speaker 2: Get that, and, uh dude it did. Not disappoint angelo's

2568
01:57:53,560 --> 01:57:53,800
Speaker 2: is an.

2569
01:57:54,080 --> 01:57:57,160
Speaker 4: Incredible spot this sounds like a good Trip. To philly

2570
01:57:57,240 --> 01:57:58,560
Speaker 4: usually when you go to a place like that you

2571
01:57:58,720 --> 01:58:00,760
Speaker 4: talk about bed bugs or or things.

2572
01:58:00,840 --> 01:58:03,160
Speaker 2: Like that, but, dude wife my wife got us a.

2573
01:58:03,240 --> 01:58:06,680
Speaker 2: Nice hotel juki was well behaved where the train. Was

2574
01:58:06,880 --> 01:58:09,600
Speaker 2: fine the, only, problem truly the only problem was how

2575
01:58:09,760 --> 01:58:10,360
Speaker 2: freaking cold.

2576
01:58:10,400 --> 01:58:12,000
Speaker 3: It, was yeah you just couldn't.

2577
01:58:12,000 --> 01:58:14,680
Speaker 7: Walk around but it's got a Grin and barrett at, This, point.

2578
01:58:14,840 --> 01:58:17,200
Speaker 2: YEAH well I Got valentine's day plans with, my wife

2579
01:58:17,280 --> 01:58:20,760
Speaker 2: since you fucking heathens don't do that but, any event

2580
01:58:20,960 --> 01:58:22,280
Speaker 2: where can folks get more of your work?

2581
01:58:22,320 --> 01:58:24,640
Speaker 4: This week you can check me Out. On uncrowned i'll

2582
01:58:24,680 --> 01:58:26,480
Speaker 4: have some stuff coming out. This week i'd still kind

2583
01:58:26,520 --> 01:58:28,400
Speaker 4: of being the planned out at, this point at this,

2584
01:58:28,480 --> 01:58:30,320
Speaker 4: early Junction and i'll be on the Crack With pizza

2585
01:58:30,400 --> 01:58:30,720
Speaker 4: Carrol on.

2586
01:58:30,840 --> 01:58:34,280
Speaker 3: Friday one, all right big shots of.

2587
01:58:34,360 --> 01:58:36,640
Speaker 2: Those folks as you can see here all the socials

2588
01:58:36,920 --> 01:58:38,800
Speaker 2: you want to FOLLOW, for mk for me as well

2589
01:58:38,840 --> 01:58:42,240
Speaker 2: As for Chuck on TWITTER. And ig Don't forget morningcombat.

2590
01:58:42,400 --> 01:58:46,160
Speaker 2: Dot shop we have now both the regular well SO

2591
01:58:46,240 --> 01:58:47,960
Speaker 2: when i, SAY regular i mean like once a month

2592
01:58:48,320 --> 01:58:51,839
Speaker 2: special art Design the Army of daunkness and the posters

2593
01:58:51,920 --> 01:58:55,000
Speaker 2: that's of course Available at Morningcombat. Dot shop plus we

2594
01:58:55,120 --> 01:58:58,600
Speaker 2: have now the, evergreen Stuff The morning combat graffiti kind

2595
01:58:58,640 --> 01:59:02,400
Speaker 2: of logo as well AS the. Dcmk version on top,

2596
01:59:02,480 --> 01:59:04,040
Speaker 2: of that a. Long island what do you got going

2597
01:59:04,080 --> 01:59:04,520
Speaker 2: on to plug?

2598
01:59:04,640 --> 01:59:08,280
Speaker 7: Very quickly nothing because THERE'S no ufc fights. This WEEK

2599
01:59:08,280 --> 01:59:09,640
Speaker 7: so i have a new episode Of prop Quiz.

2600
01:59:09,720 --> 01:59:11,840
Speaker 2: On friday but you know we talk, about that, all right,

2601
01:59:11,960 --> 01:59:13,360
Speaker 2: Very good and then of course if you want to

2602
01:59:13,400 --> 01:59:17,720
Speaker 2: reach The show morningcombat at gmail, Dot com morningcombat at gmail,

2603
01:59:17,880 --> 01:59:20,360
Speaker 2: dot com all right for everyone on, the show for Long,

2604
01:59:20,440 --> 01:59:22,760
Speaker 2: on luke for the, Iceman himself Chuck Mindenhol I'm. Luke

2605
01:59:22,800 --> 01:59:24,880
Speaker 2: thomas thank you all so much. For watching we'll catch You,

2606
01:59:24,960 --> 01:59:27,280
Speaker 2: on friday and, until then may all of your gains.

2607
01:59:27,600 --> 01:59:28,040
Speaker 3: Be loyal