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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, and welcome to another edition of the Dave

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Speaker 1: Pash Podcast. I'm your host ESPN and Arizona Cardinals broadcaster

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Speaker 1: Dave Pash. This is our first episode of the pod

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Speaker 1: since post draft in early May, when we sat down

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Speaker 1: with Cardinals general manager Manti jasen Ford. But now that Cardinals'

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Speaker 1: training camp twenty twenty four is here, you'll hear from

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Speaker 1: various players and other personalities around the Cardinals and outside

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals over the next several months. We're going to

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Speaker 1: kick it off today with a former Stanford Cardinal and

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Speaker 1: current Arizona Cardinals wide receiver Michael Wilson, who burst onto

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Speaker 1: the scene last year with thirty eight catches three touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: including two Week four against the San Francisco forty nine ers.

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Speaker 2: The next step is just to be a reliable target

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Speaker 2: and help the team. All I care about is winning.

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Speaker 2: If that's two catches one game, six catches, the next game,

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Speaker 2: four catches, one game, ten catches, no catches. Doing the

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Speaker 2: dirty work and blocking is really about helping the team

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Speaker 2: win and what's best for the team.

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Speaker 1: And the thing that I think will stand out the

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Speaker 1: most to you after you get done digesting all that,

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Speaker 1: Michael has to say over the next thirty minutes is

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Speaker 1: what tremendous energy, positivity and thoughtfulness that Michael Wilson has.

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Speaker 1: And you know what it made me think of? Made

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Speaker 1: me think of the late great Bill Walton, who, as

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Speaker 1: many of you know, I worked with for a long

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Speaker 1: time at ESPN. He was my broadcast partner for twelve years.

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Speaker 1: I didn't work with anybody other than Bill Walton longer,

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Speaker 1: with the exception of Ron Wolfley. So Bill and I

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Speaker 1: were very close. And when we're done with this podcast

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Speaker 1: at the end, I'll share some thoughts on Bill. But

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Speaker 1: as some of you may or may not know, Bill,

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Speaker 1: along with obviously being a UCLA legend, he went to

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Speaker 1: Stanford Law School when he was injured during his NBA

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Speaker 1: playing days, and we love to do games at Stanford.

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Speaker 1: He loved to attend Stanford games because the student athletes

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Speaker 1: there obviously loved sports, but also had outside interests as

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Speaker 1: Bill did. And I think Bill would love this next guest,

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Speaker 1: if you ever got to meet Cardinals receiver Michael Wilson.

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Speaker 1: receiver and a rising star in my opinion in the

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Speaker 1: National Football League. Michael Wilson, First of all, thanks for

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Speaker 1: taking the time man.

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Speaker 3: Of course, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: You're like the guy that everybody asks now for interviews

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Speaker 1: because you're such a good interview.

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Speaker 2: Oh, appreciating you. I got to be on the Stanford guy,

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Speaker 2: so you know, well, Hope, I am.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of that. What was the word that you used

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Speaker 1: to describe Marvin Harrison perse.

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Speaker 3: Purse the cases?

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Speaker 1: Okay? Now, as a Syracuse guy, that's a word I

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Speaker 1: don't know. So what is the definition of that word?

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Speaker 2: It kind of means detail orientated it that's like a

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Speaker 2: very broad definition of it. But you're always seeking information

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Speaker 2: and you're very self aware, deserving information, self aware looking

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Speaker 2: how to get better, looking for ways to improve.

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Speaker 1: Is there another word for that? Like, is there an

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Speaker 1: easier word that you could have used that others might

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Speaker 1: grasp and understand? Besides that, like, is like if I

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Speaker 1: looked in a thesaurus, that's a word, right, what would

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Speaker 1: be the word next to that?

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Speaker 3: Let me think?

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Speaker 1: That's whatever?

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Speaker 3: Whatever?

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Speaker 1: You that's how smart, Joe. You don't even know words

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Speaker 1: that would be dumbed down for guys.

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Speaker 3: Like someone that is looking for ways to get better.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's fair. So if I get that into a broadcast,

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Speaker 1: if I get that into a Cardinals broadcast or an

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Speaker 1: ESPN broadcast, what do I get?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 1: I understand your fiance Sophia as an endorsement deal with Chipotle.

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Speaker 1: Do you get as much Chipotle as you want because

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Speaker 1: of this deal?

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Speaker 3: She does? I don't.

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Speaker 2: I'm not as big tim as their so I don't.

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Speaker 2: She has the card where she gets a free mail

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Speaker 2: every single day. Okay, I don't have the card. I

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Speaker 2: have some vouchers they gave me, like thirty vouchers to use.

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Speaker 1: If I can get this word in either on a

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Speaker 1: free bowl? Absolutely, you can make it. I think it's

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Speaker 1: worth it. I just try to get that in. What's

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Speaker 1: been the biggest difference for you in camp so far?

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Speaker 1: I know it's early, you've only had a couple of practices,

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Speaker 1: been through it now for one year.

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Speaker 2: I think you just had hit on all three and one.

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Speaker 2: I feel a lot more comfortable, and I've been saying

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Speaker 2: that since Ota is going into the year two having

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Speaker 2: the same exact offense, same coaching staff, same routine, So comfortable.

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Speaker 3: Is a really good word.

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Speaker 2: I feel really really comfortable in the scheme, in the offense,

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Speaker 2: my relationship with Kylo so much better than it was

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Speaker 2: last year in terms of the field that we have

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Speaker 2: I think that's always been the biggest thing for me,

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Speaker 2: and I'm self aware and I understand is that can

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Speaker 2: I stay healthy and play seventeen games? But I feel

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Speaker 2: But it's early, super super early, so I'm not gonna

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Speaker 2: get too far ahead of myself. We still have a

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Speaker 2: lot of room to grow and I have a lot

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Speaker 1: What was the biggest adjustment last year when you got here.

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Speaker 2: I would say, coming from I'm gonna shock you with

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Speaker 2: guys that get into Stanford are extremely detail orientated, and

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize how much the details matter in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Like this is something I like to say. But when

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Speaker 2: we run digs, which is you run fifteen yards and

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Speaker 2: and you run in here, it's off your fifth outside step.

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Speaker 2: There's no Well, the DV was sitting and I broke early.

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Speaker 3: So as JG says, all the time, the details matter.

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Speaker 2: That's what separates guys who can become all pros, who

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Speaker 1: You played for David Shaw, who obviously has an NFL background,

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Speaker 1: So was there some of that at Stanford for an

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Speaker 2: That's why I said, yeah, I would think that being

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Speaker 2: detail orientated because you have to maintain you know, four

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Speaker 2: Then you have to apply and get in and go

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Speaker 3: And like when I was coming out of high.

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Speaker 2: don't get when you when you're playing with such small numbers.

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Speaker 2: Nothing happens by accident. There's absolutely nothing that happens by accident.

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Speaker 2: So that's what I'm saying. Coming out here. I was,

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Speaker 2: I was really thrown by storm. I thought I would

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Speaker 1: I've done a lot of games at Stanford. People who

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Speaker 1: It's beautiful Palo Alto. The campus is beautiful, but you're isolated.

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Speaker 3: It's like a bubble.

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Speaker 1: So you get there, and did you think this is

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Speaker 2: So the reason why I chose and wanted to do Stanford,

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Speaker 2: that was my dream school since I was ten. And

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Speaker 2: not only were they, in my opinion, the most prestigious

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Speaker 2: the time from twenty ten to twenty eighteen, right Andrew

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Speaker 2: lu Richard Sherman, Doug Bald and I was a four

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Speaker 2: So I was always a four point zero student throughout

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Speaker 2: when I got to high school was I am going

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Speaker 2: to be a Stanford student athlete one way or the other,

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Speaker 2: whether it's basketball, whether it's football. Now I happen to

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Speaker 2: But the goal was always to get to the NFL.

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Speaker 2: And I think now if I had to make that decision.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I'd be Stanford all in because

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Speaker 2: the program isn't where it used to be. That being said,

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Speaker 2: if you're good the NFL, you'll make it anyway. But

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Speaker 2: coming out of high school, Christian McCaffrey just left jj

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Speaker 2: I think they're ranked, you know, with top ten when

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Speaker 2: I committed. So it was absolutely no brainer because you

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Speaker 2: but we have, you know, some of the best academics.

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Speaker 2: But when you actually go visit those schools, they tell

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Speaker 1: At what point at Stanford did you feel pretty good

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Speaker 1: And I remember that after Senior bawl of us sudden,

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Speaker 1: But so, so back to you, So Senior Bowl. What

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Speaker 2: But talking about the Senior Bowl environment, I think what

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Speaker 2: So we went to no obviously went to LA for

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Speaker 3: He did?

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Speaker 1: He did very nice.

440
00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's leadership. That's leadership. That's leadership.

441
00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,080
Speaker 1: He's got the money, He's got the wallet to do ahead.

442
00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:50,880
Speaker 3: That's leadership.

443
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:56,560
Speaker 2: During OTA's we're also throwing at Sawara High School OTAs.

444
00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,200
Speaker 2: I think it is eight weeks. We threw eight times

445
00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,919
Speaker 2: every weekend on Saturday. K One would also invite you know,

446
00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,600
Speaker 2: a handful of us over to his house multiple times

447
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,920
Speaker 2: on Saturday night Friday night just to just to chill

448
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,159
Speaker 2: watch the NBA playoffs at the time. You'd have a

449
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:14,480
Speaker 2: chef cook for us, but we're always finding ways to

450
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:19,439
Speaker 2: hang out and just feel each other out, learn, you know,

451
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 2: how we operate and build a good relationship off the field,

452
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 2: because that's really what pays off on the field.

453
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Speaker 1: And he took you guys to an NBA playoffs NBA

454
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 1: Playoffs yep, okay, so, and we went to Oklahoma two

455
00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:35,480
Speaker 1: and Norman Norman, So I saw you. So I do.

456
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 1: I work for ESPN as well. I'm calling game two

457
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,000
Speaker 1: between the Mavericks and the Thunder okay for ESPN TV.

458
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 1: So I see you guys over. I'm at mid court

459
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 1: with Hube Brown, who I'm working with, and I see

460
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 1: you guys over in the corner. I couldn't. I knew

461
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 1: it was a bunch of Cardinals. And I saw James

462
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 1: and Kyler and I saw you in Paris and a

463
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Speaker 1: Kimer who else was there?

464
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 3: And Andre Okay.

465
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I got in a little bit of trouble

466
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,440
Speaker 1: that night, and I need you to set the record

467
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,200
Speaker 1: straight on what exactly happened, and let me explain myself first.

468
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 1: I haven't done this, but I had people on social

469
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 1: media coming at me. So there's a moment in the

470
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,200
Speaker 1: game where Luka Doncic is over again it's to our right.

471
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,239
Speaker 1: So we've got a lot of people next to us,

472
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:20,439
Speaker 1: to our right over where Kyler was and Connor, and

473
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Speaker 1: it looks like they're having a conversation, right yeah. So

474
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Speaker 1: I don't know if how much you know about TV,

475
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 1: but you have a producer in your ear, so when

476
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 1: you're going to a commercial, they will count you down.

477
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:35,639
Speaker 1: So this is going on. Luca stops. He's looking what

478
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,639
Speaker 1: looks like at Kyler and at Connor and maybe fans

479
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,479
Speaker 1: that are around there, and it's having a conversation. So

480
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 1: I say, and Luka Doncic having a conversation over there

481
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,639
Speaker 1: with Kyler, Murray said in my head seven six or five,

482
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 1: And it looks like and he doesn't like what he's hearing.

483
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 1: Three two one break. So now we don't have a

484
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Speaker 1: chance again to see that it's actually a fan, yeah,

485
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,160
Speaker 1: that he's talking to. So I came back and said

486
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,640
Speaker 1: it later, but my phone is, hey, you're the Cardinal's announcer.

487
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 1: How can you know what are you doing? So I

488
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 1: didn't defend myself. But again, at first you can't really

489
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 1: tell what's happening. I wasn't saying that he was getting

490
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 1: into it with Kyler I just ran out of time

491
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 1: to say what was really happening. I'm trying to observe

492
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 1: it real time.

493
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,879
Speaker 2: Yeah you're there. Yeah, what happened? Honestly, I don't know

494
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 2: because my brother. So during halftime, my brother sent me

495
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 2: I think that was in the first half. First half,

496
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 2: So halftime, I'm looking texting with my brother and he

497
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 2: sends me an Instagram reel saying Kyler Murray and Luka

498
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,679
Speaker 2: Doncik with popcorn and they're kind of going back and forth.

499
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 2: Now I know for sure that nothing happened. I actually

500
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,679
Speaker 2: never got around asking k one what happened with that.

501
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 1: It was a fan. There was a fan that was

502
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 1: literally either next to Kyler or behind him, and they

503
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 1: were talking at other times during the game.

504
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

505
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, And again I wasn't saying like they were getting

506
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 1: into I just said Luca doesn't like what he's hearing

507
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 1: because he wouldn't stop, like you kind of kept going.

508
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 1: But you saw the fan, right, But I think somebody again,

509
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: because that was said, now, people were clipping it and

510
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,439
Speaker 1: putting it out there, and so that's why you got it.

511
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 1: So there's there's the story. But I never heard anything

512
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 1: about it from anybody here. So hopefully nobody was upset.

513
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 1: But there's the story. Yeah, there's the reason we came

514
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: back and cleared it up later. But of course nobody

515
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 1: talks about that. They'll talk about what said real time.

516
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 1: So you talk about your relationship with Kyler and how

517
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 1: that's grown. What have you seen from him, because in

518
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 1: talking with people around the organization, they say he's done

519
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 1: everything we've asked of him, like, yeah, this is it.

520
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 1: He's ready to take the next step and be that guy.

521
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 1: What have you seen from him so far in camp?

522
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: Are there little things you've noticed that maybe you're different

523
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 1: or that show leadership that maybe we're not seeing.

524
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I see a lot of leadership. And mind you,

525
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,880
Speaker 2: I wasn't with k one before his injury, Like I didn't.

526
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 2: I wasn't there in twenty twenty two. So how he

527
00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 2: is now is how I how I see him. I

528
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 2: didn't know what he was like before. But we talked

529
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 2: about leadership, missing a throw in practice or miscommunication or hey,

530
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 2: you know coming to me or coming tomorrow or coming

531
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 2: to whoever, what would you feel on that route? Okay,

532
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 2: well you know this has happened. YadA, YadA, YadA, just

533
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 2: kind of hashing it out.

534
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 3: That's leadership.

535
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 2: Like I appreciate when a quarterback can come to me

536
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 2: after a ball hits the ground it's not completed. Hey,

537
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 2: how can we make that work next time? Well, boom

538
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 2: and boom, let's do this. Okay, bet shake it up,

539
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 2: We got it. Let's go next time. I'm gonna come

540
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,439
Speaker 2: back to you. Like those little things make a huge

541
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,199
Speaker 2: difference in myself as a playing with confidence as a

542
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 2: receiver in him also knowing that he trusts me, and

543
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 2: and I think life and leadership, it's all about communication.

544
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 2: And his communication skills with the old line, with the

545
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 2: running backs, with the receivers has been really has truthfully

546
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 2: been flawless this year.

547
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 1: I don't know if you watch a lot of college football,

548
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 1: if you're a big college football guy or not.

549
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay.

550
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 1: So clearly were aware of Marvin Harrison junior and watching

551
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: them when you found out when you were watching the

552
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: draft or wherever you were and found out that Marvin

553
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,360
Speaker 1: Harrison was selected by the.

554
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 2: Car So first, me and so talking about watching college football.

555
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 2: So that twenty twenty two, Rose Bull twenty twenty two

556
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 2: when he got his first start I think against Utah,

557
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,120
Speaker 2: and he had the hat trick touchdowns and the Rose Bull.

558
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 2: Me and my brother watching that game, and I'm like, Damn,

559
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 2: who is this cat? Twenty twenty two, I'm going into

560
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 2: my fifth year and I just had a you know,

561
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 2: four three and nine season my fourth year, so I'm

562
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 2: going back for a fifth year. I'm like, this dude's

563
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 2: gonna be the best receiver in college football next year.

564
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:37,439
Speaker 3: And he was.

565
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,360
Speaker 2: But that was the first time, like his skill set

566
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 2: that game, that was the first time I watching him play.

567
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,120
Speaker 2: I said, he's gonna be the best receiver in college

568
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 2: football next year. Turns out he was, But yeah, he

569
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 2: can play. He's now from.

570
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 1: Teammate, he's yeah, what's your biggest takeaway from just kind

571
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 1: of watching him operate or just looking at him?

572
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 2: I mean, he looks like a specimen obviously, being what

573
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 2: six three and a half two hundred and ten. He

574
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 2: can run, but he's able to move like he's six

575
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 2: feet And I think not only does he have all

576
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 2: the skill sets in terms of knowing how to get open,

577
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 2: I think what really separates him from a lot of

578
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,360
Speaker 2: other guys. And I think why he can be true

579
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 2: of one receivers because he has great ball skills, not

580
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 2: goods ball skills. He's a great has great ball skills

581
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 2: and as a natural pass catcher, like he plucks the

582
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 2: ball away from his body. He doesn't, you know, body

583
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 2: catch a lot of balls, and so he's a guy

584
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 2: when he fifty to fifty balls like it's it's ninety

585
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 2: five to five, or it's if he doesn't make the play,

586
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 2: you're shocked in your head, like, damn, I'm surprised he

587
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 2: didn't make that.

588
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 3: Like he's got that good at ball skills.

589
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,360
Speaker 2: That's why I know he's he's gonna be He'll live

590
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 2: up to the expectations because on top of having the

591
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 2: talent ball skills, he's also a great person and loves

592
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 2: the game of football. So there's like there's nothing that's

593
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 2: going to stop his success barring injury.

594
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: You have a lot going on in your professional life, Yeah,

595
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: even more going on in your personal life. You are

596
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: engaged to Sophia Smith, who you've known for a long time.

597
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: Right part of the US women's soccer team and played

598
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 1: soccer at Stanford while you were playing football. Have you

599
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 1: said a wedding date yet?

600
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 3: We haven't.

601
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 2: She's I'm gonna let her like figure out the wedding date,

602
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 2: and I think women are so much better at planning

603
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 2: all that stuff than us.

604
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 3: But uh, she's she's in the Olympics right now.

605
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 2: Obviously I'm in camp, so I said, after the Olympics,

606
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,679
Speaker 2: we'll figure out exactly when the days, but targeting like

607
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 2: February March of next year.

608
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 1: How did you guys meet and when did you know

609
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: she was the one? And when do you think she

610
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: knew that you were the one for her? Because there

611
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: are not a lot of like we had zach Ertz

612
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: on the pod a couple of times and you talked

613
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: about you know, Julie and kind of everything there, but

614
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: that there aren't a lot of a husband wife tandems

615
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: that are both high level professional at for sure.

616
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 2: And I would say there's I feel like that's getting

617
00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 2: a little bit more popular.

618
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 3: There's you were that started that knew that met when

619
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 3: they weren't both professional athletes.

620
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of times nowadays, it's you're

621
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 2: a professional athlete and you meet, you know, another man

622
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 2: or woman that.

623
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 3: Is a professional athlete.

624
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 2: That's it's easier because you guys are both on the

625
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 2: same plane for so to speak. Uh, But to get

626
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 2: to your point, so football team gets there. Powerfy football

627
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 2: team usually get there in June of the summer because

628
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 2: you have you train for two months summer training, then

629
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 2: you going to camp. So women's soccer and soccer is

630
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 2: a false sport at the collegiate level, and so they

631
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 2: were on the Stanfords on the quarter system. So she

632
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 2: got there in late or early early August of twenty eighteen,

633
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 2: and so we're on the back half of camp and

634
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 2: there's a bunch of guys telling me, Hey, there's this

635
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 2: really cute, you know, light skinned woman soccer player that's

636
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 2: coming in, and they were showing me your Instagram, like, man, yeah,

637
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 2: she's pretty cute.

638
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 3: So it's one day. It was one day after practice.

639
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 2: I'm in the eye all by myself, and her, her

640
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 2: best friend Naomi, and then her other best friend, Katie

641
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 2: Meyer all walked in and I looked up and I

642
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 2: still remember she was in like pink spandex and a

643
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 2: white sports brawl and I looked up and I saw

644
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 2: her and I was I looked down right away. I'm like, okay,

645
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 2: yeah that's And then about thirty minutes later, I looked

646
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 2: her up on you know, Instagram, followed her and about

647
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes later, she followed me back and so the

648
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 2: next day and I didn't shoot her a.

649
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 3: DM or anything.

650
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm gonna be a gentleman and introduce

651
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 2: myself in person when the time's right. So the next day,

652
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 2: one of her teammates went up to Paulson Nadibo, who

653
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 2: played who's a cornerback for the Saints. We were at

654
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 2: Stanford at the same time. Went up to him and said, Hey,

655
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 2: the women's soccer freshman players want to meet the freshman

656
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Speaker 2: football players. Uh. And so he told, you know, a

657
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Speaker 2: couple of us and we organized them. Were like, okay,

658
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Speaker 2: we're gonna go over to their dorm after practice one night.

659
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Speaker 2: Because mind you, we're on the Cours system, so stay.

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Speaker 2: The regular students don't get there until I think the

661
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 2: third or second week of September. So it's just athletes,

662
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Speaker 2: just fall athletes and scholarship athletes on campus at the time.

663
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Speaker 2: So we go there one day after practice and it's

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Speaker 2: her and Naomi come greet us to come. They let

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00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 2: us in and me and her looked at each other

666
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 2: and we made eye contact and there's just like sparks

667
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 2: and we're playing games like Killer Frog and truth are

668
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 2: there and it was like the whole game was going on.

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Speaker 2: People were you know, we're people were playing the game,

670
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Speaker 2: Like I was playing the game just so when I

671
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 2: could talk to her. She was playing the game. Now

672
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 2: she's telling me just so she can talk to me.

673
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 2: Got her number after that, and then from there it

674
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 2: was basically just started dating from not that point on,

675
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 2: but you know, two or three weeks in and then yeah,

676
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 2: and we've been going smooth ever since.

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Speaker 1: Are you guys both prepared for the fact that basically

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Speaker 1: anything you do publicly as a couple, because of who

679
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: the two of you are, is going to be broadcast

680
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: and written about and talked about for sure.

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Speaker 3: I mean that's I think that's a that's something that

682
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 3: we've had to kind of get used to.

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Speaker 2: And mind you, she, I mean, she's had a lot

684
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Speaker 2: more success in her athletic career than mine and has

685
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 2: ascended way quicker than me. So I think a lot

686
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Speaker 2: of the times I'm actually known because well, especially when

687
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 2: I was in college, a lot of people recognize who

688
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 2: I was because of her, and still somewhat somewhat is

689
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 2: that way, Uh, But I think that's kind of a

690
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 2: hurdle we've had to get over because I didn't meet her.

691
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 2: She was still I didn't even know a lot about

692
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 2: women's soccer at the time. But when I met her,

693
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 2: she was a number one player in the country coming

694
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 2: out of high school. Like Trevor laurren Zion Williamson. She

695
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 2: was already being crowned as the future of the US

696
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 2: women's national team. So I quickly learned how much of

697
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 2: a prodigy she was. Uh, but yeah, that's something that

698
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 2: we're definitely gonna have to we We're used to it now.

699
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 3: But at first, like I didn't, I didn't meet her

700
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 3: and know her.

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Speaker 2: As as the prodigy that or as the celebrity that

702
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 2: she is now. Like I think when we first met

703
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 2: she had what ten thousand followers? Now she's got three

704
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand followers.

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00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: How many do you have?

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00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 3: How only? I think I have fifty three fifty four

707
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 3: thousand or something like that.

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Speaker 1: Pretty good?

709
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 3: So pretty good?

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Speaker 1: Do you have a best man in mind?

711
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 3: My brother? My brother Marcus will be my older brother

712
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 3: will be my best.

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Speaker 1: And how about the wedding party? Is it all set

714
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: up here?

715
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Speaker 2: So I don't know where I think we were. I

716
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,719
Speaker 2: don't want to release too any detail. I didn't get

717
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 2: but I.

718
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Speaker 1: Don't want to get you in trouble with friends exactly.

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Speaker 1: All right, Listen, man, we appreciate the time.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate you. Thanks for time.

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Speaker 1: I have a great cancer for seeing it, Yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: thank you man. I feel like I could have talked

723
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Speaker 1: to Michael Wilson for another thirty minutes. So many great

724
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: things that he had to say. Most insightful his conversation

725
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: and relationship with Kyler Murray and how much time they

726
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: have spent together leading up to the twenty twenty four season.

727
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: I love the story about the time that they spent

728
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, the mansion in bel Air, the NBA

729
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: playoff game, all the weekends that they have spent together

730
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 1: throwing the football, Kyler having the guys over to his

731
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: house to watch playoff games or UFC fights. It tells

732
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: you a lot about the maturity of Kyler Murray, and

733
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Speaker 1: it certainly helps when you have a teammate describing that,

734
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 1: because I really think it puts it in a great perspective.

735
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: Michael is a tremendous young man. Congrats to him and

736
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Speaker 1: his fiance Sophia Smith, a power couple in the United

737
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: States and as popular as Sophia is, and for good reason,

738
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Speaker 1: as one of the great soccer players in our country.

739
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 1: I think people and I've seen a lot of people

740
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: talking about Michael Wilson being maybe a fantasy sleeper. I

741
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: think Michael Wilson's here to stay. I think that he's

742
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: got a a great chance to be very impactful, maybe

743
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,800
Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl receiver down the line, and having Marvin

744
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: Harrison here is only going to make him better. And again,

745
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: that growth and relationship with Kyler Murray, I think we're

746
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: going to see on full display this season. I mentioned

747
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: before the interview that I just wanted to take a

748
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: moment to talk about Bill Walton, who I worked with

749
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: for twelve years. That was just on college basketball at ESPN.

750
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 1: The first time I worked with Bill was on NBA

751
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: in two thousand and six and I was just a

752
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: young guy at the network then and was just happy

753
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 1: to be working and happy to be doing NBA games

754
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: and happy to be sitting next to Bill Walton. And

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00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: I remember we're doing a game where it was a

756
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 1: Cavaliers game during the Final four. Bill was doing some

757
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: event at the Final Four, and in between he flew

758
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: to Chicago to do this game with me. It was

759
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: Bull's Cavaliers, and I'm pretty sure it was Lebron took

760
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: his headband off and he threw it towards the scorer's table,

761
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: and Bill shouts, it's a technical foul, and I just

762
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: kind of let him go. I just let him do

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00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: his thing again. I was just happy to be sitting

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Speaker 1: next to Bill Walton. I get a call from Mike

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Speaker 1: Tarico the next day, and Mike says, because Mike was

766
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Speaker 1: Bill's regular partner then at ESPN ABC, he says, you

767
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,439
Speaker 1: have to stop him. That's your job. And I kind

768
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: of filed that away. And a few years after that,

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Speaker 1: when ESPN got the PAC twelve broadcast rights, they paired

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Speaker 1: Bill and I together, and I remember early on kind

771
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: of what Mike had said, you have to stop him,

772
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: that's your job, and so occasionally I would do that

773
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,479
Speaker 1: and Bill loved it. Bill loved the back and forth.

774
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: And occasionally I'd take my headset off and maybe I'd

775
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: apologize and he'd say, never stop keep coming at me.

776
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,439
Speaker 1: I love you, but don't tell anybody. That was kind

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00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: of his whole thing. And the greatest memory of Bill

778
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: that I have is how he related to people and

779
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: if you came up to Bill before a game and

780
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: asked for an autograph, he would say after the game,

781
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: after the game, but he meant it. He would sit

782
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 1: there for an hour, sometimes longer, after every single game,

783
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 1: and regardless of who it was, whether you were somebody

784
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: that was a kid, or a student athlete, or a

785
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 1: contemporary of Bill's, he had time for you. He loved people,

786
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 1: He loved the fact that basketball gave him a platform

787
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: to show his personality and all the interests that he

788
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: had outside of basketball. And so as I was sitting

789
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 1: here listening to the interview with Michael Wilson, I kept

790
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 1: thinking about Bill and how much Bill would appreciate this.

791
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: I think Bill would have loved to have sat here

792
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 1: and talked to Michael Wilson, and I think it would

793
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,720
Speaker 1: have been fascinating to watch the back and forth between

794
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 1: the two because as great of a player as Bill was,

795
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: as great of a broadcaster as Bill was, Bill's personality,

796
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 1: his humanity, his love for people stood out to me

797
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 1: the most and had the biggest impact on me. And

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00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: I'll miss him dearly. Thanks again so much for listening

799
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Speaker 1: to another edition of the Dave Past Podcast. Thanks to

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00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 1: our guest Michael Wilson. We are presented by Helo River

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