Speaker 1: M hm.
Speaker 2: Hm. Welcome back.
Speaker 3: All the smoke coming to you from the Excess nightclub
Speaker 3: here at the beautiful Wind Hotel. Round two of interviews
Speaker 3: and Jack, if two people in the league embody all
Speaker 3: the smoke, it's probably these two.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I will also throwing the word trill.
Speaker 4: See I'm gonna pull out the textas w the original
Speaker 4: trill and I don't use that word trill and give
Speaker 4: it to many people.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. From Trill to Delphia. Man,
Speaker 2: welcome to the show. The Mors Twins. Appreciate y'all.
Speaker 3: Fellas, Thank you, Rose y'all, y'all fresh off the plane,
Speaker 3: We appreciate you.
Speaker 2: I talked to them like two hours ago.
Speaker 3: He was just landing and they decided to come through
Speaker 3: and bless us long overdue, absolutely with their presence.
Speaker 2: What are you guys up to these days? What's going on?
Speaker 1: Having kids?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 1: Kids?
Speaker 5: I got three boys and he was about to have
Speaker 5: no boys, have no boy in August?
Speaker 1: You have two boys, two boys, one girl.
Speaker 2: All boys? Okay, okay, So who's all this?
Speaker 1: Seven minutes?
Speaker 2: Seven minutes? Okay, I got twins. There're six men.
Speaker 3: You guys are identical obviously, How you look like that
Speaker 3: if you're off fraternal Hey, what it is?
Speaker 1: You know how? That's what the doctor said.
Speaker 3: So you guys invested in a brand called Legends.
Speaker 2: Shout out Legend, shout out my guy Scott.
Speaker 3: They put all this together. What made you invest in that?
Speaker 3: Obviously as athletes, I know you guys are actively investing,
Speaker 3: But what made Legends stand out to you?
Speaker 1: Guys? Honestly?
Speaker 5: Even though we was in a bubble and uh, I
Speaker 5: think I think Legends that are collabed with mv p
Speaker 5: A during that time. That was when we were doing
Speaker 5: all the social justice stuff there and it came out
Speaker 5: with these hoodies and actually Bro had it on. I
Speaker 5: was like, Damn, that's a nice ass hoodie. You know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, because you know, people don't really wear
Speaker 5: sports stuff like just around chilling in it. So when
Speaker 5: I got back to LA after the bubble, I actually
Speaker 5: want of Koha's kawhile and the guys was talking about
Speaker 5: Legends and he was I don't know if I said this,
Speaker 5: but Ship he was talking about doing the collab with him.
Speaker 5: This was when he before he got to New Balance
Speaker 5: and his dude was telling me about him, and uh,
Speaker 5: Ship man, I started doing my research, just ended up
Speaker 5: reaching out to Scott myself talking busting it up.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: It was just it just it just it just it
Speaker 5: just matched, you know what I'm saying. We were just
Speaker 5: on some ship, like, hey man, I know no other
Speaker 5: other like companies you get a little endorsement. He was like,
Speaker 5: we really don't want to do that, you know, I mean,
Speaker 5: if you really want to take a look at it
Speaker 5: and be an investor, you know, just dig deep a
Speaker 5: little bit. And I told Bro about it and brung
Speaker 5: some people on and ship.
Speaker 3: You guys are entering your thirteenth year vets that don't
Speaker 3: really come along too often. This league is so young
Speaker 3: now to see real vets is refreshing. What do you
Speaker 3: think of the state of the league right now? You
Speaker 3: guys kind of got a taste of the era we
Speaker 3: were in. Obviously the era has transitioned to more of
Speaker 3: a scoring, less physicality, but still fun game. But what
Speaker 3: do you think about how you started Where the NBA
Speaker 3: has kind of transitioned into.
Speaker 1: I think it's in a good hands. Man.
Speaker 5: These young players coming up there, real talented. I think,
Speaker 5: you know, once Brian and all those guys retire, I
Speaker 5: think you know the zions of John Moran, so I
Speaker 5: think those guys will, you know, a takeover. But I
Speaker 5: don't like it is the vet thing like as we
Speaker 5: get older. It's not like when y'all was in the league.
Speaker 5: You remember how y'all basically call it quits when y'all
Speaker 5: wanted to call it quits. Nowadays they pushing the vest
Speaker 5: and more younger guys, and I don't think that's helping them.
Speaker 5: I think that's hurtingly because you need the guy, you
Speaker 5: need the order guys to show them the way. So
Speaker 5: that's the only part I don't like. But other than that,
Speaker 5: it's in a great state.
Speaker 1: Talent. They ain't that money.
Speaker 2: Shoot, talented.
Speaker 1: Money ain't going nowhere.
Speaker 2: Money crazy.
Speaker 4: That's just started on our when we on our way
Speaker 4: out though, and they start pushing aiut, they start pushing
Speaker 4: me out. They start pushing all the guys like us
Speaker 4: out around that time, and that's when that bullshit started.
Speaker 5: Don't understand the qualities. That's crazy. Understand too. Nowadays the
Speaker 5: gms and they're younger, they're not the older like they
Speaker 5: used to be when you were young guys was in
Speaker 5: the league, So they're looking at younger guys, they don't
Speaker 5: understand the qualities of having bets in the locker room.
Speaker 5: You get on these one or two teams though they
Speaker 5: understand it. You try to stick with that.
Speaker 3: That's normally guys that played understand the importance and they're
Speaker 3: in those positions. But guys that are number crunchers or
Speaker 3: or analytics.
Speaker 2: Guys analytics, they don't get it.
Speaker 3: That's the game and you, guys, depending who do you
Speaker 3: guys feel there, maybe the top two players in the
Speaker 3: league right now. It goes back and forth, but who
Speaker 3: you guys feel like the top two players in the
Speaker 3: league are right now?
Speaker 5: Shure, I'm gonna say, uh got to say Tatum and
Speaker 5: Uh to me.
Speaker 2: I like Embiid, Tatum and Bid I like him Beho
Speaker 2: you got key.
Speaker 5: I'm more so Kyrie and KD. I mean, Kyrie is
Speaker 5: obviously the most scaled player by far, and then just
Speaker 5: you know, Kd's ultimate offense.
Speaker 1: So I'm going with the offensive guys.
Speaker 3: Thoughts on the when we came in the league, there
Speaker 3: was a handful probably, but there's really been an international
Speaker 3: European kind of takeover of the league. You look at Yo, Giannis,
Speaker 3: Luca Embiid, guys international players that have won MVPs the
Speaker 3: last handful of years as American players that compete and
Speaker 3: grew up loving this game. Thoughts and kind of just
Speaker 3: the way the international players are running the NBA right now.
Speaker 5: To keep it real ship there really is, man, I
Speaker 5: mean I think uh much to say, I'm still gonna
Speaker 5: say they're still in our blueprint. I mean, you know,
Speaker 5: they becoming professionals at a younger age, and that's starting
Speaker 5: to really like grow on the game. And I think
Speaker 5: that's what we have to do here. I mean, you
Speaker 5: got the what's that the league that the Twins came from,
Speaker 5: the ote ot leg. I think we need more leagues
Speaker 5: like that because that's the way now like professional younger age,
Speaker 5: I mean playing with grown missions thirteen. He's the top
Speaker 5: players in Euros So they are already coming in with
Speaker 5: an edge. And then their game is different from ours too.
Speaker 3: They play positionless over there, so now we've transitioned into policitis.
Speaker 2: We used to be one through your side.
Speaker 3: You got to handle and shoot from the jump. And
Speaker 3: I think we're behind the eight ball.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're behind the eight ball and that, but we'll
Speaker 5: catch up, yep, you know, you know I always go,
Speaker 5: let's go back to your upbringing.
Speaker 4: Paint the picture of your upbringing and Philly. What's out
Speaker 4: of the Philly y'all from no one second. We appreciate
Speaker 4: what you do for the city too, man my second. Yeah, man,
Speaker 4: I've been seeing it all the time, Mailly from the
Speaker 4: same hood. We're from the same yeah, Philly, Man, I
Speaker 4: got it. I got a lot of that love Philly.
Speaker 4: Man took German Town where you was at. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: was a German time. I was up north with with
Speaker 4: Chris and yeah, where's Tom Trump to.
Speaker 2: Where's Flip Murray? From?
Speaker 1: From Toptown.
Speaker 2: Flip Murray was a bad shout out Flip Murray.
Speaker 1: He was like he's still balling on the leagues out there.
Speaker 2: It was all great, Flip cold Flip was a killer.
Speaker 5: But yeah, we're from North Philly. From right there in
Speaker 5: north right there, across the street from Mexico. Yeah, cav
Speaker 5: Heart right grow right around the corner from us. We
Speaker 5: all in the same neighborhood, right down that that lane
Speaker 5: of area Avenue, Hunting the Park. Yeah, I heard you
Speaker 5: saying that the other day.
Speaker 1: I was rolling. I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 3: I was rolling, but coming up in Philly football, baseball, basketball,
Speaker 3: Who was the best at both?
Speaker 2: And what was your guys favorite sport coming up?
Speaker 1: Football? Ye, football was what was it?
Speaker 2: You guys play quarterback and see that's that's the easy combination.
Speaker 5: It was cool, man, We got the we got the
Speaker 5: high school and it was cool. But then we played
Speaker 5: outside one time. That was the end of that was
Speaker 5: we played outside when it was cold, like during the summertime.
Speaker 5: You played little league, you know what I'm saying. Once
Speaker 5: you go to high school, you get into the winter time,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, and you really playing playing
Speaker 5: that ship man, we was out there. Ma, man, this
Speaker 5: ain't for us. Yeah, let's just see if we could play.
Speaker 5: But mind you, we haven't even played basketball, so we
Speaker 5: really didn't start until like our ninth grade, tenth grade year.
Speaker 2: That's when you guys picked the basketball. Football was your
Speaker 2: first love.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we played all the way up until till that time.
Speaker 5: So I got it at seven. Yeah, played till ninth
Speaker 5: grade year. That's why I think like it translated well
Speaker 5: because we was already physical, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So we went into the game like we really started.
Speaker 5: Football players played basketball. That was the same way football
Speaker 5: was first.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so the room is keep better than math Mark Markets.
Speaker 4: You better at a great better reader. Did y'all used
Speaker 4: to switch classes? That was twenty years ago. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: used to switch classes on boards. Well the same. It's
Speaker 4: just something to do that. It was just something to do.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 5: We had to y'all get away with Yeah, man, we
Speaker 5: got away with all that ship. Yeah that was that
Speaker 5: was that was mining.
Speaker 2: But that was easy work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was so long ago.
Speaker 3: What's the wildest if you could say the wildest switch
Speaker 3: off y'all pull, whether it be in the classroom, in sports,
Speaker 3: in life else.
Speaker 5: It's got to be in life. But it in appropriate
Speaker 5: for the cameras. They say we switched teams like team
Speaker 5: they said we switched NBA teams like like five years ago.
Speaker 5: That's been crazy, that's what they said in the playoffs. Yeah,
Speaker 5: that that's funny. Yeah, they put a whole story on
Speaker 5: that ship. Ain't true.
Speaker 4: Being in Philly growing up that y'all have in influence
Speaker 4: from AI, I'm pretty sure all of them.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the only person we watched. We used to
Speaker 5: go down there on Fridays and just I so old
Speaker 5: Aunt Rode show. We used to like really be running.
Speaker 2: You said that Fridays, motherfucker ran that ship.
Speaker 1: Man, Bubba Chuck.
Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure, man, That's all we did feel like
Speaker 5: that was that was the reason why we was six
Speaker 5: a fan, the reason why we even picked up basketball.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, every kid.
Speaker 1: In the Philly How did Kansas become y'all choice for school?
Speaker 5: We originally we was committed to Memphis throughout the whole year.
Speaker 5: This from John Colin Perry was there. He was the
Speaker 5: hottest coaching college basketball. Uh Kentucky had just opened up,
Speaker 5: so we knew he was gonna get there. He was
Speaker 5: gonna get the gig there. Our high school coach at
Speaker 5: the time was doing all the research for us. Knew
Speaker 5: he was gonna get the gig. And then uh yeah,
Speaker 5: we opened our recruitment back up kept Kansas and Memphis.
Speaker 5: They played in the National Championship against each other. We
Speaker 5: had Grandmam's house watching the game on it between me
Speaker 5: and him because I wanted to go to Memphis bad
Speaker 5: like I was all John Coler Perry Derek log was
Speaker 5: the it was the assistant coach at the time, so
Speaker 5: you know I was.
Speaker 1: It was more so me.
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, I wanted to go to he wanted to
Speaker 5: do the Kansas locked in that Grandma cribs. Basically, you know,
Speaker 5: whoever won the national championship game, that's in school.
Speaker 3: That's how you decided. Whatever team won and Kansas beat
Speaker 3: him was Chris Douglas, Robinson and the Rose on.
Speaker 5: This and it was crazy. Yeah, I remember that, like
Speaker 5: it could have won a different direction. We would have you, boy, yeah,
Speaker 5: really would have would win. So y'all y'all said before
Speaker 5: the game or during the game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we shook on like whoever win.
Speaker 2: The National Championship going to Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 5: Really only man him know, we only to else because
Speaker 5: I was I was locked in on me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that was. That was my school. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was gonna was gonna go there. That was.
Speaker 3: That was the one Jack speaking to the mic. What
Speaker 3: did you just poured our cup right there?
Speaker 1: Jack?
Speaker 4: One more time, give me the correct a nilos What
Speaker 4: does that mean?
Speaker 1: It means rings in Spanish. This is our mess, coal.
Speaker 2: Mixed with watermelons.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, take don't take a sip. It's gonna be everywhere.
Speaker 1: It's gonna fix everybody business.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we have something like Baron would say, here, try
Speaker 3: something cheers.
Speaker 5: Nice, my god, cheers for having brought.
Speaker 4: I'm telling y'all, ay, b you and Mac gonna have
Speaker 4: people thinking I'm smart for real minute.
Speaker 3: So was there ever thoughts you knew for sure college
Speaker 3: you were gonna go together, and then the next stop
Speaker 3: you never you never knew what was gonna happen.
Speaker 5: And I'll be honest, bro, Like we never really talked
Speaker 5: about the NBA growing up. We never was on something
Speaker 5: like we're gonna make it to the NBA. It was
Speaker 5: more so like going to college. First's amazing. Nobody in
Speaker 5: college is getting out, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 5: like even like having an opportunity to go to college
Speaker 5: was like it was our opening, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: And then like it was such a culture shot because
Speaker 5: we went from North Philly.
Speaker 1: To Kansas, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So that man, bro, Like we struggled like like a
Speaker 5: lot the first year, we really struggled in school, and
Speaker 5: like we had Danny Manning. He was over there and
Speaker 5: he was like a mentor of us, and he just
Speaker 5: he kept us on the straight path and like he
Speaker 5: really like turned our games on, like turned our work
Speaker 5: ethic up, and like we started to like see the growth.
Speaker 5: Like one summer we was in school and went back
Speaker 5: home and was like grown as men, you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying. So like everybody was like like it was
Speaker 5: a big change, right, And that's when like the light
Speaker 5: kind of came on, like, hey, we got a real opportunity,
Speaker 5: like yeah, to make the league and ship. After that,
Speaker 5: we just we was pushing each other. How many y'all tattooed?
Speaker 5: Y'all got that the same ship? Hold on right, he
Speaker 5: got fifty, we got fifty y'all whole right arm is
Speaker 5: the same? Yeah, probably thirty five of them the same
Speaker 5: in the same spots too, right, Yeah, spot don't. Yeah,
Speaker 5: we started early. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, that's dope.
Speaker 4: Favorite battles in college you played Big twelve, Blake, Griffith,
Speaker 4: Chris Middleton.
Speaker 5: What's that like? We was fucking Chris Middleton up in college.
Speaker 5: We didn't get to play against Blake. We was fucking
Speaker 5: Chris Middleton enough. Our biggest battles was our teammates. We
Speaker 5: had gang of guys went to the league. We had
Speaker 5: Thomas Robinson, we had Jeff Robs in the house. Ain't
Speaker 5: we had even like go to the league. The niggas
Speaker 5: was nasty, you know what I'm saying. We had Mario
Speaker 5: Little he was could have left from Juco went to
Speaker 5: the league. You know what I'm saying. But it became
Speaker 5: like we became a brotherhood. But ship, we used to battle,
Speaker 5: We used to get it in, you know what I'm saying. Damn,
Speaker 5: and everybody went to the league off our sport.
Speaker 1: Damn.
Speaker 5: There played something here really overseas all Rich Sharon Collins.
Speaker 1: Sharon was on your team.
Speaker 5: We had Josh Shelby. We had a bunch of guys,
Speaker 5: remember Xavi and Henry. He was on our team this
Speaker 5: when he was a top five pick. Yeah, Shelby to
Speaker 5: be more. Yeah, he was cold.
Speaker 1: Was Bill self hard on y'all? They both said come
Speaker 1: on hey, man like.
Speaker 5: It was crazy man, but he really like he worked
Speaker 5: it so hard that when we got to lead this
Speaker 5: ship was just easy. You know what I'm saying. Man,
Speaker 5: We was we look at it, We look at him
Speaker 5: wrong way. We was running and then everything was together.
Speaker 5: So if it's me, I'm running, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: If it's him, we both running. So not one of easy.
Speaker 5: In college. I was lazy as ship. He would literally
Speaker 5: do and everything was together. It doesn't matter which one
Speaker 5: of Like we both was getting in trouble.
Speaker 3: So was he just an asshole or was he pushing
Speaker 3: you because he saw something a little.
Speaker 2: Bit of both.
Speaker 5: It wasn't just us ship, so I call it, it
Speaker 5: was both ways. Like we was just the ones, you know,
Speaker 5: one of the ones. I think he was twin so
Speaker 5: like it was just easy to pick on, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Like one is two people to you
Speaker 5: know what I mean, normally on one now because both
Speaker 5: of them doing it, You're like, man, fuck it, I
Speaker 5: don't even know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You did it? Marks looking to be wrong?
Speaker 5: Mark Keith running this ship was crazy at the end
Speaker 5: of work that it worked out real good for us
Speaker 5: because like we became men. He like tourt, Like we
Speaker 5: didn't have father so it kind of became like a
Speaker 5: father figure and such. But it was really like just
Speaker 5: strenuous work, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Twenty eleven, what's the pre draft process? Like how many
Speaker 3: teams you guys work out for? Did you guys work
Speaker 3: did you guys work out together at every stop?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: Two teams.
Speaker 5: Actually the teams we got drafted to those are only
Speaker 5: to work out together.
Speaker 2: Oh really what what were those teams?
Speaker 1: Houston and Phoenix?
Speaker 5: Yeah, And the part about that was that that dog
Speaker 5: wasn't even he wasn't even gonna come out of school.
Speaker 1: Yeah you were going to stay.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he well, he wasn't going to stay, but he
Speaker 5: wasn't on any like for projects of like being drafted,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. So he was like damn.
Speaker 5: He was like, bro, if you leave, I'm leaving. And
Speaker 5: that's just what it's going to be. Like, if I
Speaker 5: can get to the combine, we can make something work.
Speaker 5: End up, I'm allowed to be picked the whole time.
Speaker 5: He ended up going to the combine and he go
Speaker 5: before me, like it was crazy. I'm like that, it
Speaker 5: was just like it was made because we sat at
Speaker 5: the same table, one pick right on each other, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So it was just you guys were thirteen fourteen thirteen.
Speaker 3: We just saw the top the Thompson Twins with four
Speaker 3: and five, right, we just saw the twins. That kind
Speaker 3: of shit made me excited, though, bro, because I've been
Speaker 3: fucking with y'all for a long time obviously because I
Speaker 3: have twins and you guys got a chance to meet them.
Speaker 3: But it's just like to see your dreams kind of
Speaker 3: materialize and it's really a u together.
Speaker 4: Your twins gonna make because they way more burnout at
Speaker 4: the age than y'all will. And trust me bro them too.
Speaker 4: They've grown already to grow. All they gotta do is stay.
Speaker 4: Of course they gonna make. Yeah, they locked in.
Speaker 5: Kids nowadays different though, Yeah, were so much more you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, So like they can it can
Speaker 5: go fast.
Speaker 3: Well, I feel like now, I mean, you guys probably
Speaker 3: caught a little bit of old but like when we
Speaker 3: grew up, we was outside, Like we didn't work out,
Speaker 3: we didn't train, We was doing shit we probably shouldn't
Speaker 3: have been doing. You know, Now kids have trainers, and
Speaker 3: I feel like the skill level now is super high.
Speaker 3: But I feel like a lot of people lack the
Speaker 3: IQ because they don't really play. They hoo, they do
Speaker 3: all the one on one ship and all this shit
Speaker 3: is immaculate, but just how do you play off the ball?
Speaker 2: How do you say screens?
Speaker 3: How do you roll? How do you pop? How do
Speaker 3: you cut from the weak's side. I feel like a
Speaker 3: lot of the young miss that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, everything you can't teach the basis of a game.
Speaker 5: Everything gotta be alight.
Speaker 3: And even if you lose, thirty minutes later you'll see
Speaker 3: a kid on your team post a highlight real like, nigga,
Speaker 3: we just lost, literally just lost, and you got a
Speaker 3: whole mixtape on Instagram right now?
Speaker 2: What the fuck?
Speaker 3: So you guys get a chance to play together in Phoenix?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: What was that experience? Like?
Speaker 1: It was up? I'll tell you that that was the best.
Speaker 3: That was the best ship ever season or two seasons
Speaker 3: and a half, two and a half.
Speaker 2: It was just two two and a half and one
Speaker 2: and a.
Speaker 5: Half two and a half came a half and then
Speaker 5: we played two more after that.
Speaker 2: But what was that experient? I mean, that's gotta be insane.
Speaker 2: Y'all share that.
Speaker 3: Y'all get a crib together and everything right back in
Speaker 3: huh all.
Speaker 1: Right back crazy.
Speaker 5: We was wrinting Kurt Warner crib Kurt Warner's place. Yeah
Speaker 5: it was cold, man.
Speaker 1: I know that was hard. Eight rooms man, man, eight homies,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: And that's too because normally one person gotta float the income,
Speaker 3: gotta float the bill. You got to float the bill.
Speaker 5: Down like you get you get ready of that car
Speaker 5: and we share this car, I keep, you keep my car.
Speaker 5: I heard at one point limit of it sure or
Speaker 5: not that both of y'all checks are going to one account.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm saying that's hard. That's hard.
Speaker 5: Everybody always like say, like y'all, y'all need to grow
Speaker 5: up share And I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, why that doesn't make sense?
Speaker 5: Yeah, two players, two people that's living in the same Also,
Speaker 5: we're basically doing the same shit, same lifestyle, same shit. Yeah,
Speaker 5: we don't need to everything.
Speaker 1: We need one.
Speaker 2: To Mika Sue Cassa for real, for real.
Speaker 1: And at this time we twenty two, twenty three. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Yeah, reason that like brand like
Speaker 1: that don't make sense. That made a lot of sense
Speaker 1: with what that ship was cold, I'll tell you that.
Speaker 3: So you get traded in twenty fifteen, you guys felt
Speaker 3: like it was a funny style move by the Suns.
Speaker 2: What was what was the reason behind that?
Speaker 5: It was, you know, we had we was in the
Speaker 5: mix of like some legal stuff, so like uh that
Speaker 5: that we came out on top of and we just
Speaker 5: basically was kind of like explained to the owner like
Speaker 5: we really didn't have nothing to do with it, and
Speaker 5: he wanted us to do something that we didn't want
Speaker 5: to do.
Speaker 2: So it was like it was, oh, that was a
Speaker 2: bitch ass sorber, wasn't it Sorer?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't even want to go there.
Speaker 3: That came from me. That didn't that didn't come from them.
Speaker 3: Next game, Yeah, send your comments to Stephen Jackson.
Speaker 4: But that Matt said it, I said it too. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 4: So he wanted us to do some ship we didn't like.
Speaker 4: We just wasn't doing it, man, Like I was like, well,
Speaker 4: if you're gonna do that, then that's just what it is.
Speaker 4: But we're gonna stand on it, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And at the end it's also too when we just
Speaker 5: agreed to a contract together, so we took less money
Speaker 5: to stay together and play there, and we didn't even
Speaker 5: get to play one year on the contract. Yeah, that
Speaker 5: was the year before the contract kicked in. Basically at
Speaker 5: the time, like we both I was for sure I
Speaker 5: was worth a lot more than what I what I took,
Speaker 5: but I wanted to stay and play with my brother.
Speaker 5: So that was just kind of where like you're gonna
Speaker 5: make me, you're gonna do that, sign the contract and
Speaker 5: then and then check him out and now I gotta
Speaker 5: play here another four years on this bullshit contract.
Speaker 1: I ain't. We ain't doing.
Speaker 2: That, Robert Sars. Why you ain't coaching the art in
Speaker 2: the league.
Speaker 4: No more memorable stops for Marcus two twenty eighteen Celtics.
Speaker 1: You take on le Bron seven games in that series?
Speaker 1: What was that? Any good memories from that series? Hey man?
Speaker 5: Just like the fact that I was like playing against
Speaker 5: Brian it's crazy.
Speaker 1: Like you know in that series.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I was cooking him through my office in
Speaker 2: your offices roll your office was.
Speaker 5: Like, yeah, you ain't defend, like you better watch the tape. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it was going both ways, but it's Brian and I
Speaker 5: respected that, just like to share that court. And I
Speaker 5: even told him like, hey, like I'm gonna beat I'm
Speaker 5: gonna be right here every time. But it's an honor,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Like my kids gonna be
Speaker 5: able to go back and see this shit.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I'm like, could be the best player to ever touched
Speaker 5: the ball. So I was like, man ship every game
Speaker 5: I'm here, Yeah, like you know what I mean. That's
Speaker 5: why I basically I felt like I made my money
Speaker 5: being able to take him to Game seven and ship
Speaker 5: you almost won that game too with Jason Tatum as
Speaker 5: on the rookie year Brown two years in.
Speaker 3: That's was at the Eastern Finals were Tatum dumped on
Speaker 3: bro his chess.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, I was in that video to a little bit.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 5: I was screaming that niggas face out. Yeah, hell yeah,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm talking about. I was trying to
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. But it was a great team, man,
Speaker 5: I was probably the most stacked team play.
Speaker 2: Yeah without Kyrie and that was without him was there,
Speaker 2: but he was hurt, right, was hurt.
Speaker 1: Hayward had got hurt with the young boys, all right,
Speaker 1: Yeah it was up. Yeah. You think they're gonna win
Speaker 1: the championship with Tatum and Brown?
Speaker 5: Yeah, like I think it happens. I think like a
Speaker 5: couple more pieces, like a couple more pieces away. But
Speaker 5: I mean I'm a fan of Tatum. You cool with the.
Speaker 1: Losing smart smart Smart. I didn't like Brocken feel that role.
Speaker 5: I hear you said, Brockden, Nah good player and I
Speaker 5: would take aways. Yeah, but like smart, hard and soul
Speaker 5: that team smart. Yeah, he is Boston, he is, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean? He he bled out there like
Speaker 5: he was doing.
Speaker 3: And then the next heart and so they got rid
Speaker 3: of Grant Williams. He was another he was playing, but
Speaker 3: he was important. I felt like he was not necessarily
Speaker 3: the big name, but he did a lot of ship
Speaker 3: that didn't show up on the stat sheet for that team.
Speaker 3: I mean, like, I think he's a great pick up
Speaker 3: for Dallas because he's just one of them dudes, a
Speaker 3: blue guy that you need.
Speaker 4: Keef, you shot the Bubble Championship with the Lakers. Talk
Speaker 4: about that experience. What was it like getting your ring?
Speaker 4: I know your brother was going crazy, but yeah, ship,
Speaker 4: I was unbelievable. Man, I'm still I'm still a little tight.
Speaker 4: We ain't get that. We ain't get to do the carnal.
Speaker 1: I mean in l A.
Speaker 5: I'm sick about that because you want Man in l
Speaker 5: A at the time. Man, you know the year when
Speaker 5: Kobe passed Man. You know all that ship was a
Speaker 5: set up, but you know, you can't take away from that.
Speaker 5: It was a It was a great experience.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 5: Before we went in the Bubble, we knew we was
Speaker 5: going to win. We were so locked in this ship.
Speaker 5: Happened with Kobe was like, you know, we gotta get
Speaker 5: done for him. He was one of the teams that
Speaker 5: was pushing more foot the bubble because we knew we
Speaker 5: had the best chance of We knew no matter what
Speaker 5: who stepped on the court works we was gonna win.
Speaker 5: That's the most locked and I've ever been on basketball.
Speaker 5: I got to say that by far, do you think
Speaker 5: because it started at the top with for sure, you
Speaker 5: know that Lebron effect is a real thing, Like you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, like he's going to up your
Speaker 5: play or you not going to play with one of
Speaker 5: one of the other one or the other. And I
Speaker 5: think for me, I'm a high IQ basketball player, so
Speaker 5: it was easy for me to mix with him. And
Speaker 5: that's why I shot forty percent.
Speaker 1: That's what it was. The game was easy.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I tried to tell people that, you know, there could
Speaker 3: be great teams and teams win championships, but there's nothing
Speaker 3: like playing for the Lakers. You got a championship playing
Speaker 3: for Lakers. Explain to people who may not know, like
Speaker 3: what is that energy like? And everywhere you go like, oh,
Speaker 3: you want a championship. But it's like you said, the
Speaker 3: unfortunate passing of Kobe, like it just seemed like everything
Speaker 3: after that had lined up for you guys to win
Speaker 3: it and then you are you end up champions. What
Speaker 3: was it like being a champion as a Laker?
Speaker 1: It was unbelievable.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 5: The first couple of weeks, I couldn't I just still
Speaker 5: couldn't believe it, Like like leaving out out of the
Speaker 5: bubble in the locker room. I was the last person
Speaker 5: in there with the trophy, and I was just like
Speaker 5: a championship, Like you know what I'm saying, not only
Speaker 5: just making it to the league, but getting there and
Speaker 5: actually like winning, spending the how my brother, my nephew
Speaker 5: was born like U two days after that, two days
Speaker 5: before that, one of those things. So it was just
Speaker 5: like it was just so surreal, man. And you know
Speaker 5: obviously playing with Brian and a d and being a
Speaker 5: part of the Lakers. Man, But I'm still sick about
Speaker 5: that parade.
Speaker 1: You want to crazy.
Speaker 5: The parties was crazy, but that parade, especially after watching
Speaker 5: the teams after us, when like Denver, that's how crazy
Speaker 5: that was.
Speaker 1: Like being in La having a parade. La.
Speaker 2: They turn it out in La. They shut the whole
Speaker 2: city down.
Speaker 1: LA.
Speaker 5: We deserve that. Yeah, they still need to give as well.
Speaker 5: And running back real.
Speaker 3: I thought on Bron's greatness and just Longevy. Obviously you
Speaker 3: get a chance to play against him, you play with him.
Speaker 3: The fact that he's going into year twenty. I think
Speaker 3: he'll be thirty nine at the end of this year
Speaker 3: and he's still playing at such a high level.
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 1: This is unbelievable?
Speaker 5: But you know, being for me watching them and his
Speaker 5: work I think, and what he do for his body,
Speaker 5: and you know what he doing the court, what he
Speaker 5: do to just stay in shape is it's top to none.
Speaker 5: I've never seen nobody work as hard as him, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean. Three four hours before the game,
Speaker 5: two three hours after the game while we going and
Speaker 5: cold tuppy, He putting in work in the weight room,
Speaker 5: He getting treatment til two in the morning, you know,
Speaker 5: all those things and still being him, So you know
Speaker 5: what I mean, still being Lebron and still doing that
Speaker 5: shit is unbelievable. Like I've been around the great players
Speaker 5: I've played on I would say nine of the top
Speaker 5: ten players teams, you know, but on the court, off
Speaker 5: the court, around the game, nobody works as hard. So
Speaker 5: I can see how he can play.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying that long you had an
Speaker 3: incident with Jokic, What did you do?
Speaker 2: You hit him on the screen or you fouled him.
Speaker 2: You fouled, you took it.
Speaker 3: You took a foul on him, and then another sit
Speaker 3: you're running back down court.
Speaker 2: He takes a cheap shot.
Speaker 1: Sucker shot, that's what we call it.
Speaker 3: He took a sucker shot at you, but really messed
Speaker 3: you up. Tell everybody what you went through, cause didn't
Speaker 3: even know until I was reading like the depths of
Speaker 3: the ship you had to go through, you said.
Speaker 5: So the shot was it was. It was a little hard.
Speaker 5: It was like a little wht blash. Yeah, So, I
Speaker 5: mean the B three fifty catch me off. Guy, he
Speaker 5: really ain't do shit. But you know, at the time
Speaker 5: I was a little off. It was more so with
Speaker 5: the Miami heat. They was just trying to protect me
Speaker 5: from you know, I guess me from myself. But I
Speaker 5: was clear to play like two weeks after that. They
Speaker 5: just helped me out. So it really wasn't one of
Speaker 5: those things where I was like injured or in pain
Speaker 5: or anything like that. Took a sucker shot. It was
Speaker 5: like when you get when you get a they call
Speaker 5: it snuck and snuffed me. Yeah, sucker shot me. Gonna
Speaker 5: get his though.
Speaker 3: Now as a brother, like I said, I have twins,
Speaker 3: and I know how since they were little one that
Speaker 3: we put the twins in soccer. In their first game,
Speaker 3: one kid knocked one twin down and the other twin
Speaker 3: ran across the field at three years old and like
Speaker 3: just took the.
Speaker 2: Other kid out. And I was like, oh, noob, Like.
Speaker 3: How did you feel as a twin brother seeing someone
Speaker 3: take that that sucker shot on your brother?
Speaker 5: I mean I was upset obviously, you know, it was
Speaker 5: just more so like because he had his back turn.
Speaker 5: But then I told him, like you should never turned
Speaker 5: it back to you know what I'm saying. So I
Speaker 5: took it over like a take file, like did you
Speaker 5: watch it? I put my hand up so he knew
Speaker 5: I was you wouldn't try to do it. It's what
Speaker 5: he did. He tried to jump past the ball as
Speaker 5: I'm coming to follow you, like I don't know what
Speaker 5: he was thinking, but it made it seem like I
Speaker 5: was trying to hurt him when it when it wasn't,
Speaker 5: but the league made it seem like I was trying
Speaker 5: to hurt him too, because they fucking find me, was.
Speaker 1: Going to throw me out. I think it was weak.
Speaker 1: That was weak. Dide you finding me for I know
Speaker 1: what it got hit. I understand it.
Speaker 2: But you know, you know how you.
Speaker 1: Know how they do? Yeah, I get fined twenty five
Speaker 1: K for something.
Speaker 5: You hear people talk about it like, yeah, he shouldn't
Speaker 5: have turned his back. Yeah, like we on the street,
Speaker 5: we on the basketball court. That's my whole thing. Like
Speaker 5: we're in the street. Yeah, I'm not turning my back.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna keep going on you, but we're on the
Speaker 5: basketball cart is a file walking down to the other end,
Speaker 5: Like you know what I'm saying. So how is it
Speaker 5: not a cheap shot? I followed you and let you
Speaker 5: know I was gonna follow you, and then you hit
Speaker 5: me from behind. But it's like you shouldn't have turned
Speaker 5: your back.
Speaker 4: Okay, I find I find me more off what they
Speaker 4: know where they think we possibly?
Speaker 2: Oh I'm glad we because this could happened.
Speaker 1: Let's find him not you know, they could have gotten bad. Yeah, crazy,
Speaker 1: you know what don't happen.
Speaker 5: When we played them, they was like on me, like
Speaker 5: they I was going to do something again to him,
Speaker 5: Like they was on me any like little step I took.
Speaker 5: They was like watching me. I just watch him like damn,
Speaker 5: he is on me. So I said, I can't get him.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna get one of your teammates. Then we're going
Speaker 5: to take it like that. Would you get Austin Rivers?
Speaker 5: I just had to take.
Speaker 1: I'm looking out, I'm trying to get him.
Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm gonna take him out.
Speaker 1: I had to do something, but he nice. It's gonna
Speaker 1: make something ship.
Speaker 4: You would have got him too, like, yeah, I know
Speaker 4: you don't like you. I don't like your son. You.
Speaker 1: I do not, bro. He just just talk like he
Speaker 1: mad nice and you not. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I had to make something shake. So I was like, shit,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna take him out.
Speaker 2: Somebody gonna get somebody gonna feel.
Speaker 1: This, somebody gonna get it there.
Speaker 3: All right, man, We appreciate you guys time stopping through.
Speaker 3: Before we get you guys out of here, we got
Speaker 3: quick hitters. So first thing to come to mind, you
Speaker 3: guys can answer together or separate one album on repeat
Speaker 3: for each of you guys with no skips.
Speaker 1: Black Album, Dream The Nightmares.
Speaker 2: Dream the Nightmares and the Black Album.
Speaker 4: A go ahead of ranked Boars Kobe, Jordan Brown, rank them.
Speaker 1: Brian Kobe, No, I said, Brian m J.
Speaker 5: Koby, same j Kobe, bron.
Speaker 3: Best teammate you guys had outside of each other. A
Speaker 3: lot of good Smith, good dude man, John Wall he
Speaker 3: put that's not my dog though, what he said, what
Speaker 3: you said? He what he put that that's my dog
Speaker 3: always on that team. Yeah, that's that's fire.
Speaker 1: Path. Twins that you wish you could meet. Don't have
Speaker 1: to be in sports.
Speaker 2: Period.
Speaker 1: Twins. No Ship, Oh no twins. That's good.
Speaker 2: To me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we grew up in the most twins for real.
Speaker 2: Full house is for real.
Speaker 3: As long as you guys have ever gone without talking,
Speaker 3: should we talk every day?
Speaker 5: Corner from each other. So Ship, I'm even going to
Speaker 5: his crib, be coming to the cribs. Love each other, kids,
Speaker 5: best friends, So that's dope.
Speaker 3: What you guys, So you have three boys and you
Speaker 3: have two boys and the girl and one on the way.
Speaker 2: What is the age Graine for you guys? Kids?
Speaker 1: Same all the same.
Speaker 5: My oldest boys five two in nine months and then
Speaker 5: what you got she will be sixty five and in
Speaker 5: one right now.
Speaker 2: For real to say.
Speaker 5: We're right around each other, were catching them yeah, she ready.
Speaker 5: All right, let's let's get.
Speaker 2: A crack there you go, Yeah, bro go any your business.
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Speaker 1: Who haven't I seen on this one? I had Tyson
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Speaker 3: If I'm not mistaken, Janeva, didn't you say that while
Speaker 3: we're in Croatia?
Speaker 2: She was off the kill us and Mike, Tyson.
Speaker 4: And and Jordan m Jane. I don't know if you'll
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