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Speaker 1: Hey, you guys remember how the sun sucks?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: He was my head. Do America nailed it?

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Speaker 2: Then?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? But see here's the thing. It really does, especially

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Speaker 4: right now in July in the Atlanta Greater metropolitan area.

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Speaker 3: It's a sun very much, doesn't it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Look, I'm not kidding. My ac is out right

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Speaker 4: now as we're recording this. But also, but also the

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Speaker 4: sun kinda does allow for all life on this planet.

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Speaker 1: Oh it time.

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Speaker 5: There's no wonder that cultures throughout history have worshiped it.

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Speaker 1: Sure, but it's quite a toxic relationship.

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Speaker 6: Is it?

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Speaker 1: Not very much? Man, I'm so tired of the sun.

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Speaker 1: But personal opinions aside. Back in twenty twenty, we all

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Speaker 1: got together and did our usual brain trust and I

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Speaker 1: think we were Dave and Busters and asking ourselves whether

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Speaker 1: I'm just doing DMB references and asking whether the weather

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Speaker 1: can affect an individual's mood, and if that is true,

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Speaker 1: can that weather can it have a larger knock on

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Speaker 1: consequence to full scale social movements?

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Speaker 5: And we're not just talking about being bummed because it's

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Speaker 5: really really hot. We're talking about psychological impacts of the

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Speaker 5: movement of celestial bodies, for example, and various forces that

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Speaker 5: that may subject we puny humans too.

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Speaker 4: Are we talking about solar cycles and wars?

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Speaker 1: We very much are. This is a theory proposed by

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Speaker 1: a guy named Alexander chijet Ski Chijetski Chijevski.

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Speaker 4: Let's see how we pronounce it in the episode Oh.

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Speaker 6: That's from UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies.

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Speaker 1: History is riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back

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Speaker 1: now or learn the stuff they don't want you to know.

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Speaker 1: A production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 4: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is My

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Speaker 4: name is Noah.

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Speaker 1: They call me Ben. We are joined as always with

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Speaker 1: our super producer Paul Mission Control deck, and most importantly,

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Speaker 1: you are here, and that makes this stuff they don't

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Speaker 1: want you to know here alive for us, at least

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Speaker 1: in a beautiful, beautiful rainy afternoon here in our fair

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Speaker 1: metropolis of Atlanta, Georgia. It's dreary, it's gray, it's rainy.

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Speaker 1: Flip on the Shirley Manson if you're only happy when

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Speaker 1: it rains. This is like the setting for a murder.

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Speaker 3: Mystery, although from where we sit right now, we would

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Speaker 3: know because we're encased in a box made of sort

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Speaker 3: then we're in a sort of a dark cave outside

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Speaker 4: We should say I've been in the cave all day.

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Speaker 4: I had noidy was raining today ice.

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Speaker 1: It's also in this This entire apparatus is inside a

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Speaker 3: Also true.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it takes us, I guess it takes us about

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Speaker 1: three minutes to figure out what the weather is, just

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Speaker 3: Do you think it means we're being shielded against radiation

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Speaker 3: though to a degree? Yeah, well, and that's that's a

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Speaker 1: Other than the radiation all our electronics. But that's a

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Speaker 1: that's a very good question, especially for today's episode. Now,

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Speaker 1: you know, people have the weather is a very personal

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Speaker 1: these our interesting times, weather has become even more of

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Speaker 3: Right, you don't need a weatherman to know it's where

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Speaker 1: It's true and you know what past a certain past

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Speaker 1: about two weeks. Those meteorologists are almost like alchemist, you know, sure,

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Speaker 1: because so much stuff can happen. It's not their fault.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to be a weatherman for a long time.

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Speaker 4: But those models are becoming so sophisticated. It's pretty cool.

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Speaker 4: Which models the ones that they're using AI to Yes, okay,

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Speaker 4: I mean Watson is all up in the weather.

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying the models themselves are better. Like the

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Speaker 1: Maybe not for that two week limit. Might not be

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Speaker 1: want some sunshine, right I am. Of course, My ancient

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Speaker 1: So to get our minds off the weather it is

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Speaker 1: going to rain all week here, we're going to explore

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Speaker 1: a seemingly benign concept, sunshine, sunlight, sunny days. We've been

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Speaker 1: inspired by a lovely email from a fellow conspiracy realist, Reba.

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Speaker 4: It says, Hey, chaps, forgive me if you've already covered it,

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Speaker 4: as I've only started listening to your podcast and reviewing

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Speaker 4: your past subjects very recently. But have you investigated the

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Speaker 4: relationship between solar activity and its effect on mass excitability

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Speaker 4: and human health? It's a dang interesting subject. I'm currently

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Speaker 4: reading Solar History, The Connection of Solar activity, war, peace,

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Speaker 4: and the Human Mind in the Second Millennium by Sasha Dobbler,

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Speaker 4: which is a bit poorly written, awkwardly academic and roughly edited,

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Speaker 4: but full of interesting information and statistical significance.

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Speaker 4: Well yeah, if you haven't, well you consider doing the

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Speaker 4: research and making an episode. In any case, keep up

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Speaker 4: the great work, hugs and high fives Riba.

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Speaker 3: It does sound like the book contained enough of a

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Speaker 3: it's construction left something to be.

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Speaker 4: Desired, And we left book recommendations here on the show.

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Speaker 4: So thank you very much Reba for both listening, checking

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Speaker 1: And here are the facts. First, what is solar activity?

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Speaker 1: The Sun is this enormous, beautiful, dangerous, deadly thing. And

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Speaker 1: their present course, the Sun will eventually consume this little

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Speaker 1: Away, it's too true, assuming we might somehow avoid all

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Speaker 1: No matter what happens, in about seven and a half

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Speaker 1: No worries humans will be long gone by then will

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Speaker 4: Hmm, I could see that, but it's also the main

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Speaker 4: is like that, it's like that movie Mother, Yeah, but

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Speaker 3: Whoa, you're talking about the infamous baby.

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Speaker 1: It's not like that, Or it's like it's similar to that.

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Speaker 1: What was that Robert de Niro film from years back

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Speaker 3: Wait, no, he's the devil in Angel Heart.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, wait, the who's Mickey Mickey Rourke? Right right

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Speaker 1: His whole infernal nature is shown in his weird finger nails.

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Speaker 3: Weird creepy fingernails like he's got. Yeah, it's an interesting movie.

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Speaker 3: The Alan Parker, who directed a pink Floyd the Wall

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I love this kind of stuff too. Give

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Speaker 1: Right, And a lot of early religions agree.

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Speaker 3: With us because it's like our biggest proponent and sorry,

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Speaker 1: The Sun is our abusive parent, is one other way

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Speaker 1: we're along for just a little bit. We're along for

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Speaker 4: Least for all the life that's listening to this right now.

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Speaker 1: Well, we can assume, I think plausibly, we.

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Speaker 1: Sure, sure, unless we're far off along in the future

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Speaker 1: tell us what happens in the future. Right now, we

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Speaker 1: have the Sun. It's the big it's the big engine

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Speaker 1: of thermon nuclear explosions. It's only ninety three million miles

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, and the underlying thing is kind of what

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Speaker 1: Here's where it gets crazy. Why does history repeat itself?

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Speaker 1: he wrote his thesis on the topic of something called

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Speaker 1: periodicity in the world wide process. This examined the recurrence

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Speaker 1: of certain events throughout history. Right, that's his original question,

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Speaker 1: why does history seem to repeat itself? And he looked

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Speaker 1: for causes for these recurrences. Here's the gist of his argument.

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Speaker 1: It gets We'll get in the weeds a little, but

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Speaker 1: it's worth it. It goes back to chemistry.

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Speaker 3: I keep seeing his name and I want to pronounce

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Speaker 3: it Tchaikovsky's It's very close. It's Chazevsky.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And he argued that if we can reduce the entirety

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Speaker 3: of human psychology to a bunch of physico chemical processes

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Speaker 3: in our brains. That's just a fancy term that means

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Speaker 3: things relating to physics and chemistry or physical chemistry. Then

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Speaker 3: we can assume that, like other physical chemistry processes in

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Speaker 3: the natural world, the ones in our brains can be

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Speaker 3: directly influenced by their surroundings. And this gets really close

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Speaker 3: to the old the Gaya argument. So that Earth and

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Speaker 3: all that's on it can be considered one single super organism,

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Speaker 3: all existing I guess some sort of sort of symbiotic

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Speaker 3: flux with the surface of the Earth and the Earth itself.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like the way your circulatory system is not discrete

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Speaker 1: from your nervous system. They all kind of team up

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Speaker 1: in a weird Avengers thing to make.

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Speaker 4: You you wow, all of us, the life living on

463
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Speaker 4: this rock, we're just the weird little organs that are

464
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Speaker 4: separated and oh, come together and create houses and.

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Speaker 1: At least in at least in the case of our

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Speaker 1: brand of primate, it's a pretty good argument that we're

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Speaker 1: either vestigial or just deletorious. But you know, still, we're

468
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Speaker 1: all We're all sharing this oversized bungalow called earth together

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Speaker 1: and maybe, you know, maybe it's true, maybe we all

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Speaker 1: are one. But but I think that's an excellent explanation

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Speaker 1: if we He had addresses the nature of consciousness right,

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Speaker 1: and he says, what if your mind is just a

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Speaker 1: series of chemical things happening, right? And if that is true,

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Speaker 1: then that means that it is these processes must be

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Speaker 1: similar to the things that happen in the world around us,

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Speaker 1: and those things, of course are influenced by other adjacent

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Speaker 1: or nearby processes. So if this is all true, then

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Speaker 1: this means in his mind that war does not develop

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Speaker 1: necessarily due to human foibles, That the fault may not

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Speaker 1: lie just in ourselves, The fault may lie in the stars.

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Speaker 1: To bastardize Shakespeare, this means that war develops in accordance

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Speaker 1: with these pre existing natural cycles that were here before

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Speaker 1: we were. And so for Tchijevski, it's just a matter

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Speaker 1: of figuring out which natural laws actually affect us. So

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Speaker 1: where to start, because there are a thousands of natural laws, right,

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Speaker 1: we know, thousands of different things occur on all sorts

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Speaker 1: of scales.

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Speaker 4: So he went big, Yeah, he looked up and went, ah,

489
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Speaker 4: that's bright. Maybe that thing and here's the deal. For centuries,

490
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Speaker 4: humans have known that the Sun itself just in observing

491
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Speaker 4: it for all the time that we have been we

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Speaker 4: know that the Sun has cycles that it goes through,

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Speaker 4: and it's just cycling through how much activity is occurring

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Speaker 4: on the Sun and how little activity is occurring on

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Speaker 4: the Sun. And with these cycles, when there's a large

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Speaker 4: amount of activity that's occurring, as we talked about before,

497
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Speaker 4: a lot of sun spotting, a lot of prominences, a

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Speaker 4: lot of things going on that it's the Sun. You

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Speaker 4: have to think about it in this way. The Sun

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Speaker 4: is emitting things outwards, right, that's generally what's occurring. Not

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Speaker 4: a lot of stuff headed into the Sun, unless you

502
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Speaker 4: got a comment that happens to be off course, or

503
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Speaker 4: you know, smaller pieces of rock or some kind of

504
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Speaker 4: asteroid that just happens to end up locked into its

505
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Speaker 4: gravity and just gets way too close. Mostly the Sun

506
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Speaker 4: is shooting stuff out. So when it does that, it's

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Speaker 4: actually affecting the Earth itself. When you're thinking about geomagnetic storms,

508
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Speaker 4: things like that, radiation that's actually hitting the planet, and

509
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Speaker 4: there are a lot of other things too. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So he says, look, this stuff is happening all

511
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Speaker 1: the time, it has some sort of semi predictable cycle.

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Speaker 1: And because it's happening on such a large scale, if

513
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Speaker 1: it like this would be one of our top suspects

514
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Speaker 1: for a natural process physico chemical process that could affect

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Speaker 1: a bunch of people at once have a global influence.

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Speaker 1: And this is the rough sketch of what Chijevski called heliobiology.

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Speaker 1: So the question is I mean, like neat idea, Right,

518
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Speaker 1: that's a cool thesis. If I were on his board

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Speaker 1: or whomever approved him, I would think this guy, you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's true, but this guy's cool, right,

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Speaker 1: I would want to take your class.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, it's certainly out of the box way of thinking,

523
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Speaker 4: or maybe just an ancient way of thinking, right.

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Speaker 1: Perhaps, Yeah, So let's look at how it measures up.

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Speaker 1: Tchijevsky ultimately says, the regular occurrence of historical events of

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Speaker 1: history repeating itself can be linked to the Sun's cycle,

527
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Speaker 1: which is about eleven years eleven year ish, and that's

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Speaker 1: the periodic change in solar activity measured by things like

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Speaker 1: you mentioned, Matt, like the number of sun spots, the

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Speaker 1: changing levels of solar radiation, and so on. So this

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Speaker 1: guy went back through history. He started at the fifth

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Speaker 1: century BCE, and he went all the way up to

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Speaker 1: nineteen fourteen, and from that, during that time period, he

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Speaker 1: divides human history into eleven year cycles, kind of following

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Speaker 1: the sun. And then he further divides each of those

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Speaker 1: eleven year cycles into four periods, and he attempts to

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Speaker 1: create a predictive model of what happens.

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Speaker 3: So this is what he came up with, this notion

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Speaker 3: of minimum excitability, which according to Tajeski, lasts for three

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Speaker 3: years and is characterized by indifference of the masses to

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Speaker 3: political matters and when the masses you know, humanity uh,

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Speaker 3: and autocratic rule by a minority. This fascinating stuff, This

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Speaker 3: concept of the growth of excitability. The second period that

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Speaker 3: lasts for two years and is marked by the emergence

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Speaker 3: of new ideas and the agitation of the masses.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well, guess what. Now you've got maximum excitability.

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Speaker 1: This is the climactic moment, is.

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Speaker 4: The one you've been waiting for. And in this period

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Speaker 4: it's about again, according to Tijefski, about three years long.

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Speaker 4: And in this you see the real bad stuff go down. Revolts, revolutions, insurrections,

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Speaker 4: the stuff that societies are torn down from and built

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Speaker 4: up from. Yes, and this is you know, at least

553
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Speaker 4: according to the research here, this third period corresponds to

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Speaker 4: this peak of the solar cycle, the sun cycle. And

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Speaker 4: when you you know, when you see this, as we

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Speaker 4: said before, you're gonna see more sun spots, you're gonna

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Speaker 4: see more coronal mass ejections, more solar flares. And this

558
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Speaker 4: is that solar cycle. We just have to jump in

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Speaker 4: here really quickly and say the solar cycles are an

560
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Speaker 4: accepted thing.

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Speaker 1: They are real.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the solar cycle itself is a real thing.

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Speaker 1: We're on solar cycle twenty four, we're going into twenty five,

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Speaker 1: and we count them starting from seventeen fifty five.

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Speaker 4: Again spaceweather dot com.

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Speaker 3: It reminds me, Matt, you need to get sponsored.

567
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Speaker 4: By this website. I think I'm just gonna start working

568
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Speaker 4: there soon.

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Speaker 3: I think you should, but we don't want to lose you.

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Speaker 3: So can you just moon light there on the side

571
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Speaker 3: just for your own personalification?

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Speaker 4: Oh? Y, I like it.

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Speaker 3: Oh gosh, sorry I stepped right into that one. No,

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Speaker 3: you know, this reminds me of and then this is

575
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Speaker 3: maybe I don't want to sound like I'm being down

576
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Speaker 3: on it, but it sounds like he's doing the thing

577
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Speaker 3: that like, you know, medieval doctors did where they lined

578
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Speaker 3: up like the humors and the levels of various like

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Speaker 3: bile in people's body with like different types of maladies.

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Speaker 3: You know, this seems that kind of imprecise, sort of

581
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Speaker 3: like conjecture where you're almost like sort of a loose

582
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Speaker 3: connection of a real concept with this idea of a

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Speaker 3: thing that's connected to it, with a little bit lacking

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Speaker 3: in real hard science to back it up.

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Speaker 4: You know, it may feel that way, but we've only

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Speaker 4: just begun. My goodness, that's fair.

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Speaker 1: I have some yeah, I personally have some reservations there,

588
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Speaker 1: but to finish this cycle, because we only made it

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Speaker 1: to the three, the fourth one is the final period

590
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Speaker 1: three years of decreasing excitability. This is, again, to Jijefski,

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Speaker 1: is characterized by an increasing apathy amongst the masses and

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Speaker 1: a tendency toward peace now it is. It's important to note, though,

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Speaker 1: that he did not claim humans were mentally enslaved to

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Speaker 1: the sun. I fell in love with this friend like

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Speaker 1: humans being this concept of humans being enslaved by the sun,

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Speaker 1: so I used it way too often working on this Instead,

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Speaker 1: he says, the sun influences people. Here's the vagary. You'll

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Speaker 1: love to do something. And it just happened that the

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Speaker 1: bloodthirsty warlords of the past and the bloody solutions they proposed,

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Speaker 1: whatever problem they had, We're just, you know, time and

601
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Speaker 1: time again, the path of least resistance. They were the

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Speaker 1: easiest thing to do. What are you going to ask

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Speaker 1: people to vote? Nobody's got time for that. Let's kill

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Speaker 1: some people.

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Speaker 4: Sure, remind me to bring up projection theory later before

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Speaker 4: we finish. Okay, yes, somebody say, projection theory before this

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Speaker 4: episode ends, or I'll forget.

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Speaker 3: I make no promises, but I will do my very best.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I do promise. Don I get there. I'll make

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Speaker 1: sure that this does not go un seid.

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Speaker 3: Projections like that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, Mat, have those projections and I'll go, yes,

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Speaker 4: do you have theories?

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Speaker 1: You know, I'll e ope into it. So, okay, So

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Speaker 1: that's the idea. You can see you can that it is,

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Speaker 1: as you said, Matt, innovative. We can also see that

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Speaker 1: just from how we've explained it now, it leaves a

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Speaker 1: lot to be desired if we're looking at it through

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Speaker 1: the lens of science. So we have to ask ourselves,

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Speaker 1: is it true. We're gonna kind of answer this question

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Speaker 1: after a word from our sponsors, and we have returned,

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Speaker 1: all right, spoiler alert. During his lifetime, Chijewski was unable

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Speaker 1: to scientifically prove any link between large scale human activity

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Speaker 1: and the cycles of the sun.

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Speaker 4: However, he was able to, at least when he was

626
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Speaker 4: charting it out, map some really compelling connections there of

627
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Speaker 4: the time. I mean, it felt compelling to me, but again,

628
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Speaker 4: it's just taking two variables or two things and just

629
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Speaker 4: putting it side to side, similar to what Noel was

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Speaker 4: saying there. But when you're maybe if you're in it

631
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Speaker 4: or you're close enough to it, yeah, the whole thing

632
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Speaker 4: just feels like, oh this connects here. Oh this makes sense.

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Speaker 3: What makes me think of the way people like put

634
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Speaker 3: so much emphasis on the zodiac. When you look at it,

635
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Speaker 3: there are a lot of really interesting connections with personality

636
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Speaker 3: types and things that are associated with certain signs. But

637
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Speaker 3: is it just kind of no you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: man Like, I mean I have had people present to me,

639
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Speaker 3: oh this sign is like this, You're right, my friend

640
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Speaker 3: Steve is exactly that way, you know, like whatever a

641
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Speaker 3: virgo or what have you. Yeah, it's when you're painting

642
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Speaker 3: with broad enough strokes, there's going to be some synchronicities,

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Speaker 3: as I think, is what's going on kind of here,

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Speaker 3: you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna get some flak for this. But I

646
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Speaker 1: at one time had a gig writing horoscopes. Entirely I

647
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Speaker 1: wanted to write features for this outfit, but they asked

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Speaker 1: me if I believed in horoscopes. I said not really,

649
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Speaker 1: and so they hired me to write the horoscope section.

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Speaker 1: That's smart, Well, I guess, but you know, I would

651
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Speaker 1: rate astrology in the realm of personal beliefs. Believe the

652
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Speaker 1: world is tough, it's cold, you got to bring your

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Speaker 1: own heat, you got to bring your own light. In

654
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Speaker 1: a lot of figurative ways. So whatever it takes to

655
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Speaker 1: get you from one day to the next.

656
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 4: According to to my horoscope app that I recently downloaded,

657
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 4: is it the one?

658
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: Is it just a sun sign, because then it's all

659
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: three of us? Or did you put in like your

660
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: time and your geography.

661
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 4: It's just co star and it's just it's yeah, it's

662
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,439
Speaker 4: got when I was born, which is a weird time.

663
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 4: You guys, I didn't realize I was born in a

664
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Speaker 4: very weird time in my life.

665
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 1: But that's it.

666
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 3: That was great to the very beginning. That's so much promise, Matt.

667
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: You were It is true that you were born an infant.

668
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 4: It's true, it says, it says. I feel big hearted

669
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,919
Speaker 4: right now. I need to give myself permission to spend

670
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 4: time with my best friend or partner. I need to

671
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 4: show up for myself and for others.

672
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: That's it, Okay, okay, Well I'm here to say it

673
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 1: really really hits home. Yeah, it's it's right up there

674
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 1: with You're a fascinating unique person because sometimes you want

675
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 1: to do things and you do them, and sometimes you

676
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: want to do things and you don't.

677
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:07,479
Speaker 2: Whoa.

678
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: You like things that are likable and dislike things that

679
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: are dislike. You know what, I'm now in defense of astrology,

680
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: and I want to get us too derailed here in

681
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: defense of astrology and my close friends who are strict

682
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 1: adherents to that, to that system of belief or interpretation.

683
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: The common defense is going to be something like, well,

684
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 1: the astrology articles you read in your local paper or

685
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 1: on a website are just going to be the twelve

686
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: basic sun signs right, and they're gonna come out once

687
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 1: a month or once a week and they'll advise you

688
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: from there and that. To get a better understanding of this,

689
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: one needs to do what you've done, Matt, which is

690
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: look at like the specific coordinates of where you were

691
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,720
Speaker 1: born on the planet, the position of the other heavenly bodies,

692
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 1: and then the exact time of your birth.

693
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 4: So I got, didn't it? I read that? I just

694
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 4: got after I drilled down that deep into exactly where

695
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 4: I was born.

696
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: I feel like it's a little unfair because you're a

697
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: big hearted dude in general. You're like, you're a kind person.

698
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 4: Do you want me to read the other one where

699
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 4: it says I'm having problems with love and sexuality.

700
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: Wow, so they gave me both.

701
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 4: You know.

702
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: For people or fans of astrology, I would recommend, if

703
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: you're interested in other astrological systems, checking out the Mayan horoscope.

704
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: Remember I used to have a program to do that,

705
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: and it was great because sometimes it would just tell

706
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: some people that they were cursed because they were born

707
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: on a bad day, because in that particular maybe it

708
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: was aztech, but in that particular meso American belief system

709
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: there were no such things as accidents, So if you accidentally,

710
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: you know, tripped and hurt somebody, then you would be

711
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: treated as though you had a purposely planned and attack them.

712
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 4: WHOA.

713
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: But anyway, and we still don't understand gravity. We don't

714
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: understand gravity affects the human brain. So there may be

715
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: some infinitesimal gravitational pull in the developing brain based on

716
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: the positions of heavenly bodies that could alter the personality

717
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 1: in some way. That's my best scientific defense of astrology.

718
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 4: Hey, well, astrology in that In that way aside, let's

719
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 4: talk about this guy's research, because while he didn't, you know,

720
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 4: he wasn't able to really connect these two things, human

721
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 4: behavior and solar cycles in a concrete way. There's like

722
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 4: people haven't stopped attempting to make some kind of connection there.

723
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: Right decades after his death, thanks for getting us back

724
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: on track. Sorry about that. Decades after his death, continuing

725
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: research shows that there may be some sand to at

726
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: least the bones of his ideas, the structure of it there.

727
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 1: There may be there may be some some siding and

728
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: roofing to the bungalow. So neuroscientists over to demant Ha

729
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: shown they can influence people's moral decisions through the use

730
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: of magnets. Magnets can, as we know from any like

731
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: TMS or TCDs fans, we know that magnets can disrupt

732
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: parts of your brain, change the way it functions. There's

733
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: very compelling evidence that you can create the feeling of

734
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 1: being in the quote unquote zone through the use of

735
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: these kinds of stimulations electromagnetic simulation. It's probably still under

736
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: the realm of don't try this at home. I got

737
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: really close to you know, I built one. Yeah, it's

738
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: which was dumb to do, but I stopped using it

739
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 1: because as there's fairly compelling evidence that has damaging long

740
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: term cognitive effects. You can be cool for a short term,

741
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: pretty smart and stuff, but then twenty years later who

742
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: knows anyway, So we know we know that's true. We

743
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: know what that proves to us is that electromagnetic processes

744
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 1: can affect the human mind. So at least one assumption

745
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: of this guy seems valid.

746
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 4: Well, and as we have discussed previously on this show,

747
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 4: when you're thinking about the magnetosphere, the essentially the way

748
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 4: the Earth functions as a giant dipole magnet, I mean

749
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 4: it's bigger than that. It's more complex than that. But

750
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 4: if you look at it, the actual magnetics of what

751
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 4: the Earth is generating and then how that gets gets

752
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,760
Speaker 4: affected by solar wind and the Sun itself and everything.

753
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 4: Where the magnetosphere can change shape, where it can have

754
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 4: there could be less shielding essentially, and or more shielding

755
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 4: depending on what's occurring. If that tDCS, you know, connection

756
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 4: with the human brain is there, I could totally see

757
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 4: how there would be a connection there. Maybe it's just

758
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:03,240
Speaker 4: not as solid as Tchizevski was hoping.

759
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't go all the way to proving what

760
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: he said that essentially that war is a natural cyclical process,

761
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: just like a sun cycle. That's what he said, and

762
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 1: that's a lot. But what we do know is that

763
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 1: we have, years after his death, we have proven that

764
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: electro magnetic activity can affect the human mind. Let's introduce

765
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: another character, a guy named Abraham Laiboth.

766
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was a professor at Oakland University in the

767
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 3: physics department, and he had been studying the effects of

768
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 3: electromagnetism on human health since the late nineteen sixties. So

769
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 3: what he does is he studies tiny magnetic fields that

770
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 3: are generated by people that are capable of being affected

771
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 3: by these extremely low frequency electromagnetic fields. E LF's elves,

772
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 3: elves elves, and these are extremely low frequency electromagnetic fields

773
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 3: in people's environments that can pick up or disturbances in

774
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 3: the Earth's magnetic field. And he's done experiments on how

775
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 3: these disturbances might affect social behavior as well.

776
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, so here's what his theory is. He's created

777
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: this electromagnetic theory of consciousness, and similar to Tchaijevski, he says, okay,

778
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: consciousness is a product of these small magnetic fields that

779
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: are generated by neurnal flows in the brain. He says

780
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: that this magnetic field is probably minuscule. It's it's around

781
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: like one hundred nano tesla, which, without getting two in

782
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 1: the weeds, just so you know, is very we're talking

783
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 1: very small time. I'm very very small time.

784
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 4: Smaller than a micromachine's version of a tesla.

785
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,439
Speaker 1: Smaller than a bread box, right, I still I don't

786
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: know much about bread boxes, but smaller.

787
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 3: I think it's designed to hold a single loaf of bread.

788
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 5: There we go.

789
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 3: It's basically a bread case.

790
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,720
Speaker 1: But you can make loaves of so many sizes.

791
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 3: You know, your standard loaf size, standard loaf size. The

792
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 3: kindly is he filed away in the in the grocery store.

793
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: So he says, given that billions of these interactions can

794
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: be happening in the brain at any time, it could

795
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: produce a larger electric field, Like all these tiny things

796
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: could add up to something larger. And if this larger

797
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: field is the sum total of all the fields generated

798
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 1: by all neuronal activity in the brain at a given moment,

799
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 1: then maybe that is what consciousness is. Maybe it's just

800
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: the interaction and the collaboration of these different, tiny, tiny

801
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: magnetic fields. Yeah, if he is right, then that means

802
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: that these tiny electromagnetic fields generated by the brain are

803
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 1: capable of being influenced by other l for extremely low

804
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: frequency fields such as this is spooky, such as those

805
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: generated by other people. Now this gets into mentalism, This

806
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: gets this gets away from what it could be considered

807
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: proven methodologies. There are a lot of scientists that would

808
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: have a problem with this next idea. What he's saying

809
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: is that these the interaction of these fields between what

810
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 1: are different human beings could lead to them having effects

811
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: that we don't really understand on one another. So in

812
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 1: situations where the two people really close to each other,

813
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: like when a child is in its mother's womb, or

814
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: when two people are having intercourse their fields, their magnetic

815
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 1: brain fields, their consciousness. Things might be interacting kind of

816
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: bumper carring into one another. And this is something kind

817
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: of beautiful about that about you know, brain magnet powers

818
00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: bringing us together. Let's go a step further. If that

819
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: is true, and a lot of ifs we're adding up

820
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 1: ifs here, then the interaction between Earth's geomagnetic field and

821
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: the electromagnetic field of the Sun could affect the way

822
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:18,720
Speaker 1: ions interact with biological entities, meaning that it could also

823
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 1: possibly influence their behavior. The bre magnets just get bigger,

824
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: is what he's say. Yeah, or the magnets get.

825
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 4: Bigger, then the massive magnets doing the same things as

826
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 4: two people bumper caring into each other.

827
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the the Sun and Earth just sort of

828
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 1: having intimate moments since we're family show. Yeah, and then

829
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: everything we call organic life just happens to be in

830
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:47,399
Speaker 1: the same bed.

831
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,760
Speaker 4: Yeah. And the Moon is just like a pesky roommate

832
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 4: that's like, hey, hey he stopped, Oh come.

833
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: On, hey, that's through the things where he's using his

834
00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: arm to show us the orbit of the moon.

835
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 3: Total that's why I talk, and it comes around.

836
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I always all done. So so what

837
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: does that mean? Does Libath then support Tijevsky. The answer

838
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: might surprise you.

839
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 4: Yeah.

840
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 3: In an interview with Vice, he notes, quote, I'm not

841
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 3: a follower of Tchijevsky. I think of him as sort

842
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 3: of an amusing prelude to my present area of work.

843
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 3: What I'm saying is amusing prelude for the first time.

844
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 3: There is a possibility of causation that goes along with

845
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 3: this great number of correlative information in terms of the

846
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 3: effects the sun has on living things. Maybe there's something there.

847
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 3: There's an increase in suicide that is correlatable with solar activities,

848
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 3: so why not social unrest.

849
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: So he's kind of saying, yeah, Tijevski's he's all but

850
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: saying Gefsky's cute, But I'm the real scientist here, which

851
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: I don't, you know, I don't want to integrate anyone's work. Yeah,

852
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: but there's a difference between a chemists and an alchemist, right,

853
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: So maybe that's maybe that's where he's coming from. The

854
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: big question where does this leave us now? Wellriva, we

855
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: are currently at the very end of solar cycle twenty four.

856
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,760
Speaker 1: As we said, solar cycles are numbered. Starting from seventeen

857
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: fifty five, we're going to reach the solar minimum, or

858
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: we have reached solar minimum around late twenty nineteen twenty twenty.

859
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: That means that solar cycle twenty five is hitting the

860
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: horizon near you very very very soon. This will hit

861
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: peak solar activity sometime between twenty twenty three and twenty

862
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: twenty six. But cycle twenty five seems set to have

863
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: lower activity in general than preceding cycles. In fact, the

864
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: last four cycles, the last forty four years ish, have

865
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: exhibited a trend of weakening solar activity. And as we know,

866
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: things like people still got in fights across the planet

867
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Speaker 1: over the last forty four years, yeah, and.

868
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 4: Great amounts of unrest in regions across the world right

869
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 4: over those forty four years. Think about what that encompasses.

870
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 4: I mean, the sixties, the.

871
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 1: Cold War, oh yeah, the Cold War, various violent coups

872
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 1: developing world.

873
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, South America, the Middle East. They're just in the

874
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 4: United States alone, Like the the terrible things that have

875
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 4: occurred with an angry individual does just keep naming off

876
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 4: horrible things that have happened.

877
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 3: Let's see.

878
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: Various violent coups in western subher in Africa. Yeah, yep,

879
00:49:55,960 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: harambe as well. Maybe a little lower on the list things.

880
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:05,919
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, no, no, we should keep it. Let's see.

881
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 1: I mean, but there have been shining moments. Yeah, in

882
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: the last forty four years too, like.

883
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 4: The Master of Disguise.

884
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, just off the top of my head. Police Academy four,

885
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: there we go. See, you know, don't give up on

886
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 1: humanity yet. Was there a Police Academy five? Or was

887
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: four as deep as it went?

888
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 3: I you know, I.

889
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 1: Wouldn't be surprised. Let's look at that mat me direct

890
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: to video. Maybe I just feel like, really, as a

891
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: as a genre, Police Academy four was the end. Part

892
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: of art is knowing when to put the brush down.

893
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,879
Speaker 1: With that being said, Police Academy five Assignment Miami Beach

894
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: was released in nineteen eighty eight.

895
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 3: Oh wow, I don't remember of them going to Miami Beach.

896
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I stopped at four.

897
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 3: I think the true fans all stopped at four.

898
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, right right, So.

899
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 4: Here we are.

900
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: We we would assume then, if this is a predictive model,

901
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: if the sun really is they and stuff they don't

902
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: want you to know for this episode, and is conspiring

903
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: to put humans on a doomed cyclical path to war.

904
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:15,879
Speaker 1: Then we have to ask ourselves, can we predict these

905
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: activities right? These conflicts? Now Again, you'll notice in Tchijewski's

906
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 1: arguments he's purposefully being pretty general. His detractors would say

907
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 1: he's being frustratingly vague. But we also have to remember

908
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: that solar forecasting is pretty new, especially in comparison to

909
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: daily weather forecast. And thank you, of course to all

910
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: the meteorologists in the audience. You are doing a wonderful job.

911
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: We know the weather system is huge, globally interconnected and tricky.

912
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,879
Speaker 1: So I just don't want to sound like I don't

913
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 1: want to sound like we're being rude to forecasters because

914
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 1: they can't do a thing that is currently impossible to do.

915
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 4: At me, agreed.

916
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: It's like saying pilots can't really fly. You know that

917
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: they get in planes.

918
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 4: That's right, as those planes that are flying, those guys

919
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 4: are just pulling levers.

920
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, they just they just know how to operate incredibly

921
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 1: sophisticated and dangerous machines, hitting all those buttons and checking gauges,

922
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 1: landing and taking off and not killing people.

923
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 4: Doing quick mathematics that I could never do in my

924
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 4: entire life.

925
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, Lie, I get anxiety seeing the films from

926
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: the fifties and sixties where there's one person back there

927
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: who's in charge of everything that like the the three

928
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 1: D position of the plane, oh yeah, relative to everything else,

929
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 1: and they just have a pencil.

930
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:44,399
Speaker 3: Dude.

931
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 4: Uh, really quick tangential thing I know we're wrapping up here.

932
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 4: My son had to do. He had to pick out

933
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 4: his favorite book and then dress up like a character

934
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 4: from his favorite book today at school. Uh huh do

935
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 4: you guys want to guess, like what character he chose.

936
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 4: It's it's almost it's tangential to this that we just

937
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 4: did Superman. Okay, Okay, Paul says, Pepa pig a Sun

938
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 4: Raw Sun Raw rat. That would have been incredible.

939
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:21,800
Speaker 1: Okay. Okay, wait wait wait wait, we're talking about pilots. Okay, pilots, pilots,

940
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 1: famous pilots.

941
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, it's not Frank Abcneil Junior, por Okay, it's

942
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:31,439
Speaker 4: not Porkros Howard Hughes. It's not Howard Hughes.

943
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,240
Speaker 1: It's not Bluey it's someone from Police Academy.

944
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 4: It is Neil Armstrong. His favorite book currently is one

945
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 4: of these that's like I am It's one of those

946
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 4: books and is Neil Armstrong. He loves it. He loves

947
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 4: the concept of being an astronaut. And today he put

948
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 4: on his astronaut outfit and his helmet and he went

949
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 4: to school carrying his book and told everybody about it

950
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 4: was awesome.

951
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 3: Hold a loft like you were just doing.

952
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's crowd.

953
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 1: Here. Are you guys gonna let him eat space food?

954
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 4: H yeah, he already has quite a bit. Oh yeah,

955
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 4: there's some gross versions of space food.

956
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah yeah. The only good one

957
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: is the ice cream. That's the one that's like the

958
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 1: crowd favorite.

959
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:14,439
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

960
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 1: We also stocked up on MRI here. We've got too many. Yes,

961
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 1: that is amazing. And I hope that he you know what,

962
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: I hope he sticks with it. I hope he becomes

963
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: an astronaut. I'll say he's.

964
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 4: Reaching for the stars. Man. There we go.

965
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:34,879
Speaker 3: At the very least he got us in the space camp.

966
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 4: Follow my dude is going to space camp.

967
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: That's so cool. Uh So, here's where we leave. Alexander

968
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:49,760
Speaker 1: Chowsky his ideas did not meet with very much support

969
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:53,359
Speaker 1: in his lifetime, to say the least. In nineteen forty two,

970
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: there was this guy who was a big deal in

971
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,720
Speaker 1: the USSR at the time. His name was Joseph Stalin.

972
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 1: I heard of him, I f yeah, he's a real pill.

973
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: He became aware of Jefski's research, including this book he

974
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: published in nineteen twenty four called Physical Factors of the

975
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,800
Speaker 1: Historical Process or more of a pamphlet and argument, and

976
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 1: Stalin's people asked the scientist to retract his writings on

977
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 1: solar cycles. You see, they contradicted Soviet theories about the

978
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,359
Speaker 1: reasons for the Russian revolutions, first in nineteen oh five

979
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 1: and then in nineteen seventeen. Yeah, the politics got in

980
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 1: the way, just like with Galileo if you think about it.

981
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 1: So the political climate of the USSR was such that

982
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 1: all of history had to be portrayed as this inevitable,

983
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 1: if slow, painful march towards the ultimate eternal victory of

984
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:52,919
Speaker 1: the proletariat toward the worker's paradise, like history is over,

985
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: we are at the eternal present now right very nineteen

986
00:55:56,160 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 1: eighty four, and arguing that this was just another series

987
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 1: of conflicts that weren't particularly special, that they were dictated

988
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 1: or influenced by nature was first off, very problematic and

989
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 1: more heretical, the idea that that meant these would inevitably

990
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 1: happen again. We were not done with war. We're just

991
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 1: waiting on the sun to be in a bad mood

992
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 1: or in.

993
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 4: That this proletariat paradise is just one next step, you know,

994
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 4: there's like there are an infinite number of steps after right, that's.

995
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 1: Speech, and so, like Galileo, he refused to recant, and

996
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: he was arrested. He was hauled off to a gulag

997
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: for eight years. He was released in nineteen fifty sort of.

998
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 1: He was taken a Kazakhstan where he did science and

999
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 1: coal mines for eight years as a form of Soviet rehabilitation. Wow,

1000
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 1: but now we're still you know, one thing you said

1001
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 1: before we started recording to day, Matt, So we're very

1002
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 1: much in the early days of any research on this.

1003
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,320
Speaker 1: I don't know what do you guys think, Like, is

1004
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 1: this just a case cherry picking evidence? That's the thing

1005
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 1: that bothers me. That's one of my reservations, Like how

1006
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 1: there are so many wars, there's so many conflicts. Furthermore,

1007
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 1: there are so many that perhaps the scientists would not

1008
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: have been aware of at that time. Yeah, it feels

1009
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 1: dangerously easy to go back and just sort of kind

1010
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 1: of like you were alluding to NOL, just go back

1011
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: and kind of fit in things that go with your

1012
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: confirmation bias.

1013
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 4: I'm gonna put this out here, this connection between the

1014
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 4: Sun's activity and humanity's brain patterns and our you know,

1015
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 4: what we choose to do from a behavioral perspective. It's

1016
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 4: still something that is very much in at least sections

1017
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 4: of the scientific interest. In twenty eleven, there's a study

1018
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 4: it was called Sunspot dynamics are Reflected in Human Physiology

1019
00:57:55,720 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 4: and Pathophysiology. And it's something you can read if you

1020
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 4: go to the site that Ben and I I know

1021
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 4: for sure, and No, I'll go to every once in

1022
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 4: a while. It's the US National Library of Medicine, National

1023
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 4: Institutes of Health. You can find journals there and you

1024
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 4: can read an abstract. I would say, look into this

1025
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 4: because it's trying. It's really weird. It took this huge

1026
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 4: longitudinal study of pap smears and I believe it was

1027
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 4: self reported breathing and oxygen levels in males, and it

1028
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 4: was just looking at within the solar minimums and maximums

1029
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 4: whether or not there was any kind of change if

1030
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 4: you're looking at some of the scientific testing there the

1031
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 4: perap smears, like what were the rates of infectious diseases

1032
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 4: that were found during the maximums versus during the minimums,

1033
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 4: And again it seems like a good way to maybe

1034
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 4: make a connection, but again it's like two data sets

1035
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 4: that don't necessarily have anything to do with each other,

1036
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 4: and if you make the correlations then it perhaps is

1037
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 4: just in the eye of the researcher, just putting that

1038
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 4: out there. But then again in twenty eighteen there was

1039
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 4: another one, and this one had to do with heart rates,

1040
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 4: just looking at heart rates and these you know, the

1041
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 4: solar cycles. That one, by the way, if you want

1042
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 4: to look for it is long term study of heart

1043
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 4: rate variability responses to changes in the solar and geomagnetic environment.

1044
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: Rolls up the tongue.

1045
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 4: But it's just and that was in twenty eighteen. So

1046
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 4: just knowing that even now, this interest is still there

1047
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 4: in finding a connection, depending on what it is, and

1048
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 4: I'm very much interested to see if something more concrete

1049
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 4: can be established at some point in the near future.

1050
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 1: And what if we get to a point where that

1051
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 1: kind of that kind of correlation does have approvable causation.

1052
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 1: How does that change the activity of the human species

1053
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 1: on the planet do we have? You know what I

1054
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 1: mean is are we realistically ever going to have a

1055
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 1: society where someone says, Okay, guys, you know, I know

1056
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 1: we've had some religious or ideological disagreements, but we're at

1057
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 1: like maximum excitability. So let's just hold off for three years.

1058
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 1: Let's just chill for three years, and then let's come

1059
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 1: back and talk. I don't think humans are capable of that,

1060
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 1: but if science can prove that the bones of it

1061
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 1: are interesting enough that we should continue research on this.

1062
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 1: We want to hear from you. What do you think, folks?

1063
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 1: Is this a case of cherry picking evidence and mistaking

1064
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 1: correlation for causation or are we emotional slaves to the

1065
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 1: sun our first god? Or is it something in between?

1066
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 3: Let us know.

1067
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 1: You can find us on Facebook, you can find us

1068
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 1: on Twitter, you can find us on Instagram.

1069
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 4: We are conspiracy stuff in many of those places. Conspira

1070
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 4: stuff show on Instagram, Noel. If people want to check

1071
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 4: out your exploits, where can they go.

1072
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 3: Oh, you can go to Instagram if you wish and

1073
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 3: look me up at how now Noel Brown and Ben

1074
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 3: I believe you've got some social handles that lead directly

1075
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 3: to your individual self as well.

1076
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 1: That's true. Yes, you can find this persona on Instagram

1077
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 1: at Ben Bolin like bowling without a g and you

1078
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 1: can find the same persona on Twitter at Ben Bolan

1079
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 1: hsw toss the ball back to you, Matt f H.

1080
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 4: Yes, I don't have any socials right now at the moment,

1081
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 4: I can't find them. They're they're there somewhere. I just

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Speaker 4: can't find them. But what I can tell you is

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Speaker 4: that Steve Gutenberg is very excited when about Police Academy eight,

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Speaker 4: which may be coming to us what at some point, guys.

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Speaker 4: According to ScreenRant dot Com from twenty eighteen, he was

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Speaker 4: getting all hyped up about Police Academy eight.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it was the Sunway that.

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Speaker 3: Means there word and seven. Two others most Miami Beach.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's one called under Siege. I think that was six. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, I've gotta I gotta check the sun cycle

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Speaker 1: before there's a lot of new information for me. I

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Speaker 1: really did just stick with four, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, I'm you know, Little Gutenberg's excited.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, but Police Academy four was divisive, and that's

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Speaker 1: what art should do.

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Speaker 4: It looks.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we gotta get out it.

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Speaker 4: We do it together. I would say, if there is

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Speaker 4: gonna be another Police Academy, now is the time for

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Speaker 4: it to just like show up on Netflix one day

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Speaker 4: and everybody would go, hey, all right.

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Speaker 3: Something made that happen. Maybe it's just the season for

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Speaker 3: a new Police Academy.

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Speaker 1: Police Academy seven Mission to Moscow. That sounds somehow familiar.

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Speaker 4: Oh so that's the real title.

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Speaker 1: That is, we have a we have a phone number

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Speaker 1: of people can call too to let us know about

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Speaker 1: everything from the Sun to Police Academy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can call us at one eight three three

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Speaker 3: st d w Y.

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Speaker 4: Yes, leave a message and we will we'll hear from you. Okay,

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Speaker 4: we're gonna do something new on the show. Everybody, as

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Speaker 4: we're in here recording, I am going to check my

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Speaker 4: my app here and the latest message that has come

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Speaker 4: through on the wires is going to get played and

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Speaker 4: we're just going to react to it. Okay, is everybody

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Speaker 4: ready here? It is the latest message from you.

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Speaker 2: Hey, guys, I don't I don't know how much time

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Speaker 2: I have. Oh wait, yeah, it is three minutes. I

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Speaker 2: was just wondering if you have any thoughts on big

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Speaker 2: pharma killing tech one diabetics with rising insolent prices. Thanks

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Speaker 2: for all you do.

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Speaker 4: I got to go there.

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Speaker 2: They're catching up. Thanks. I'll keep listening.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: To be fair, when we agreed to do this, we

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Speaker 1: we made a pact with one another that we would

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Speaker 1: not listen to any of these before we actually played

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Speaker 1: them in the studio, So you are hearing this for

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Speaker 1: the first time with us. It is true that pharmaceutical companies,

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Speaker 1: at least in the West, are accelerating the prices of insulin.

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Speaker 4: Yes, but you know why is that? Is there something

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Speaker 4: behind that as our caller has insinuated there. We don't know,

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Speaker 4: and maybe it's something we can look into. And that

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Speaker 4: is a reminder that what Benja said, that's the first

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Speaker 4: time we heard that. That was sent to us while

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Speaker 4: we were recording.

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Speaker 3: And if you have any thoughts on the subjects of

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Speaker 3: big pharma and fixing insulin prices, you can use our

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01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 3: final form of communication again in touch with us. Send

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Speaker 3: us a good old fashioned email.

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Speaker 1: We are conspiracy at iHeartRadio. Dot com. Whoa whoa, whoa

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Speaker 1: whoa whoa projection theory?

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Speaker 4: A projection guys? Do you ever? Did you ever think

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Speaker 4: that maybe we and everything we believe is real is

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Speaker 4: actually just a projection from the sun were we are

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01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 4: in this weird way three dimensional projections of a two

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Speaker 4: dimensional space or or object that is behind or a

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Speaker 4: part of our sun to Okay, cool because you can.

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Speaker 4: You can read about that on the internet right now.

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Speaker 4: Stuff they don't want you to know is a production

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