WEBVTT - Patriots Playbook 11/20: Rams Recap, Dolphins Preview 0:00:30.425 --> 0:00:33.945 Patriots Catch twenty two. We'll join Evan Lazar and Alex 0:00:33.985 --> 0:00:36.544 Bart every Thursday as they take a deep dive into 0:00:36.585 --> 0:00:39.665 the exit, the No's trends, and latest New England Patriots 0:00:39.784 --> 0:00:40.385 roster moves. 0:00:40.465 --> 0:00:44.104 And I'm usually into the numbers. Okay, we do something. 0:00:44.105 --> 0:00:47.025 I'm into the tangible numbers. There's there's tame here. Just 0:00:47.025 --> 0:00:49.264 give me. There's the advantage. In fact, I haven't know 0:00:49.305 --> 0:00:52.224 how to work it. I'm surprised an old man over here. 0:00:52.265 --> 0:00:53.785 I thought maybe I'd have to show you like a 0:00:53.865 --> 0:00:54.905 tutorial or something. 0:00:55.065 --> 0:00:57.625 How am I old man search for Patriots Catch twenty two? 0:00:57.705 --> 0:01:32.104 Anywhere you get your podcasting. 0:01:16.944 --> 0:01:17.304 Drive? 0:01:39.664 --> 0:01:43.944 Yeah, boy, welcome into the playbook for Wednesday game week Miami. 0:01:44.104 --> 0:01:47.825 It is now week twelve in the National Football League, 0:01:48.145 --> 0:01:51.505 so we're moving along. John Rook here. Evan Lazarre is 0:01:51.545 --> 0:01:54.624 also here as he always is, to start our program. 0:01:54.905 --> 0:01:58.105 A little bit later on. Chris Perkins, who covers the 0:01:58.265 --> 0:02:01.385 Miami Dolphins for the South Florida Sun Sentinel. He'll be 0:02:01.385 --> 0:02:03.905 here to also kind of fill us in on the 0:02:03.905 --> 0:02:08.225 Fins because, actually, Evan, I'm surprised to say this, this 0:02:08.305 --> 0:02:10.585 is a big week for the Dolphins because if they 0:02:10.625 --> 0:02:12.745 have any hopes of trying to backdoor their way into 0:02:12.745 --> 0:02:15.185 the playoffs, they can't afford to stumble to the Patriots, 0:02:15.265 --> 0:02:17.505 So I think New England has to be on their guard. 0:02:17.385 --> 0:02:20.065 Right, Yeah, Look, it's a tough matchup. I mean, the 0:02:20.065 --> 0:02:23.225 Patriots having one down there since twenty nineteen. I think 0:02:23.265 --> 0:02:25.625 you're gonna hear that a lot this week. They're win 0:02:25.785 --> 0:02:28.785 six against toa six and zero against them. Whichever way 0:02:28.825 --> 0:02:32.705 you want to look at it, this is in one 0:02:32.705 --> 0:02:34.825 of those games where if the Patriots were to pull 0:02:34.825 --> 0:02:37.065 off a win, it would be an outlier. There's no 0:02:37.145 --> 0:02:39.065 other way to put it. They really have not been 0:02:39.105 --> 0:02:42.105 able to beat Miami in Miami, and they especially have 0:02:42.185 --> 0:02:44.505 not been able to beat Miami with TUA. So it's 0:02:44.545 --> 0:02:45.505 going to be a tough one. 0:02:45.865 --> 0:02:47.865 Doug Kaide from the Boston Herald, he's also going to 0:02:47.945 --> 0:02:50.705 join us, the Patriots beat writer for that newspaper, And 0:02:50.745 --> 0:02:53.825 of course Russell Baxter belonged to run through week twelve 0:02:54.105 --> 0:02:56.745 in the National Football League. So let's kind of start 0:02:56.785 --> 0:03:02.305 here with the Rams. And look, I'm kind of I'm 0:03:02.385 --> 0:03:06.985 joining in with everybody else. I saw a myriad missed 0:03:06.985 --> 0:03:14.945 opportunities on Sunday I also saw an inability or whatever 0:03:14.985 --> 0:03:17.225 it was they were doing wasn't effective in terms of 0:03:17.265 --> 0:03:19.505 trying to slow down a RAMS attack that just seemed 0:03:19.505 --> 0:03:22.025 to score to score to score to score for a 0:03:22.065 --> 0:03:25.145 period of time there and there was no real apparent adjustment. 0:03:25.465 --> 0:03:27.585 So I have to look at it as hey, this 0:03:27.625 --> 0:03:31.145 is another week where the Patriots coaching staff kind of 0:03:31.185 --> 0:03:33.665 learned its lesson, at least you hope it learned its lesson. 0:03:33.865 --> 0:03:37.625 But I'm wondering where the accumulation of these lessons learned 0:03:37.665 --> 0:03:39.865 is when it is going to start paying off here, 0:03:39.905 --> 0:03:41.945 because you know, it's late in the year. We know 0:03:42.065 --> 0:03:44.665 the team is what it is. Yeah, that's a familiar 0:03:44.865 --> 0:03:50.225 you know, saying, but where's the improvement coming from that 0:03:50.305 --> 0:03:52.265 side of the ball, not the performance side, but the 0:03:52.305 --> 0:03:55.905 coaching and the instruction side. I'm not sure it's where 0:03:55.905 --> 0:03:58.465 it needs to be. And I'm just being honest here. 0:03:58.665 --> 0:04:00.945 Yeah, no, it's a fair assessment. I think A big 0:04:01.625 --> 0:04:04.825 theme for me this week is sort of the same thing, 0:04:05.265 --> 0:04:08.665 which is one you can't win until you stop losing. 0:04:08.745 --> 0:04:09.065 Yeah. 0:04:09.145 --> 0:04:12.265 Right, that's a big one because when you watch the 0:04:12.785 --> 0:04:14.705 when you watch this team right now and you watch 0:04:14.745 --> 0:04:17.344 their their tape, especially on the offensive side of the ball. 0:04:17.665 --> 0:04:20.305 They may didn't really make very many plays on defense 0:04:20.385 --> 0:04:23.625 this week, but offensively you see that. You see a 0:04:23.665 --> 0:04:28.745 team that in flashes makes plays right like that is 0:04:28.825 --> 0:04:32.464 capable of moving the football and is capable of scoring points. 0:04:33.025 --> 0:04:36.464 But they're just offensively sticking on that side of the ball. 0:04:36.505 --> 0:04:38.744 Really both sides of the ball though, they're shooting themselves 0:04:38.784 --> 0:04:42.984 in the foot too often where it's not consistent enough 0:04:43.065 --> 0:04:46.545 to string together four quarters of solid football to win 0:04:46.544 --> 0:04:49.544 a football game against a good team. So there's that, 0:04:49.745 --> 0:04:51.385 And then the other thing that I keep on going 0:04:51.464 --> 0:04:55.184 back on is an old Belichick cliche, which is that 0:04:55.505 --> 0:04:59.384 coaches lose games and players win games. And so right now, 0:04:59.904 --> 0:05:03.625 whether it's coaching or it's performance or execution, they have 0:05:03.664 --> 0:05:06.624 to get out of their own way because I do think, 0:05:06.664 --> 0:05:09.344 and I know that some people might disagree, but I 0:05:09.385 --> 0:05:14.585 do think they have the talent to remain competitive. I'm 0:05:14.585 --> 0:05:16.385 not saying that they have the talent to rattle off 0:05:16.424 --> 0:05:18.344 six straight wins. I'm just saying that they have the 0:05:18.385 --> 0:05:19.744 talent to be in these games. 0:05:19.784 --> 0:05:22.064 See, And I actually thought that, And you're right, I 0:05:22.104 --> 0:05:24.705 actually thought that much earlier this season. I saw enough 0:05:24.705 --> 0:05:27.544 there to where this team could be competitive. Yeah, if 0:05:27.625 --> 0:05:30.585 decisions being made could get them over the hump. It 0:05:30.625 --> 0:05:31.624 hasn't happened that way. 0:05:31.745 --> 0:05:33.625 Yeah, you know, you come into these games and look, 0:05:33.664 --> 0:05:37.464 I'm not trying to absolve anybody on the defensive side 0:05:37.464 --> 0:05:43.104 of the football, but a first time defensive coordinator in 0:05:43.145 --> 0:05:46.305 play caller, a rookie play caller on the defensive side 0:05:46.344 --> 0:05:50.265 of the footballp in DeMarcus Covington goes up against arguably 0:05:50.344 --> 0:05:53.625 the best offensive mind in the National Football League and 0:05:53.745 --> 0:05:55.984 Sean McVay. I think there's a really good case to 0:05:56.025 --> 0:05:59.265 be made that McVeigh is on the short list of 0:05:59.265 --> 0:06:01.705 play callers on the offensive side of the ball that 0:06:01.745 --> 0:06:04.664 are at the top of the game right now. McVeigh 0:06:04.984 --> 0:06:08.145 Reid Kyle Shanahan like, that's sort of the list. 0:06:08.505 --> 0:06:12.224 Well, okay, So well, we know that the Patriots coaching 0:06:12.224 --> 0:06:15.984 STAF is young, relatively immature first, coaching is concerned certainly 0:06:16.025 --> 0:06:20.545 together as a group. Is it fair to be critical 0:06:20.664 --> 0:06:22.425 of them doing their job when they're really doing it 0:06:22.464 --> 0:06:24.385 for the first time, they're kind of learning on a 0:06:24.424 --> 0:06:27.344 trial by fire. I mean, I ask you this because 0:06:27.385 --> 0:06:29.745 I think you know, first of all, I don't think 0:06:29.784 --> 0:06:32.585 anybody he's getting fired. I think that they're going to 0:06:32.664 --> 0:06:35.744 run with this for another year at least. That's been 0:06:35.784 --> 0:06:38.224 my gut feeling all along. I don't think that, you know, 0:06:38.385 --> 0:06:40.904 the Crafts certainly are going to bring in a whole 0:06:40.904 --> 0:06:43.065 new staff and then and then rip it apart or 0:06:43.145 --> 0:06:44.785 rip it to shreds after one year. They're going to 0:06:44.865 --> 0:06:47.265 try to give this an opportunity. What we really need 0:06:47.305 --> 0:06:51.225 to see more is UH is helped within the personnel department, 0:06:51.385 --> 0:06:54.664 which is another story entirely. I just I'm kind of 0:06:54.705 --> 0:06:59.345 curious though, might there be an evaluation or reevaluation or 0:06:59.424 --> 0:07:02.984 maybe maybe a reassignment in some of the duties or 0:07:03.025 --> 0:07:07.105 depending upon what happens when the you know, the black 0:07:07.185 --> 0:07:09.624 Monday occurs, you know in the NFL after the end 0:07:09.665 --> 0:07:13.145 of the regular season, maybe you think about making some 0:07:13.225 --> 0:07:16.185 moves to augment what you have and maybe suit your talent. 0:07:16.465 --> 0:07:18.225 Yeah, I think, you know, the one thing I would 0:07:18.225 --> 0:07:20.025 say on the defense side of the ball, and they 0:07:20.025 --> 0:07:23.185 have some guys on defense that have coached a long 0:07:23.265 --> 0:07:26.385 time in this league. Yeah, so it's not Covington's a 0:07:26.465 --> 0:07:27.065 younger guy. 0:07:27.225 --> 0:07:29.105 He was on the staff. You know, people forget he 0:07:29.145 --> 0:07:30.145 was on the staff last year. 0:07:30.305 --> 0:07:31.985 He's been on the staff for seven eight. 0:07:31.905 --> 0:07:34.465 Years, right, so he's been around. Yeah, he knows the 0:07:34.505 --> 0:07:35.304 culture here. 0:07:35.385 --> 0:07:39.665 Yeah, and you know Jerry Montgomery, their their defensive line coach, 0:07:40.305 --> 0:07:44.785 Drew Wilkins, their outside linebackers coach Mike Pellegrino, their cornerbacks 0:07:44.825 --> 0:07:48.064 coach Brian Belichick obviously saved these like these guys have 0:07:48.145 --> 0:07:50.185 coached in the league for a while, Like this isn't 0:07:50.225 --> 0:07:53.624 necessarily a fully green staff on that side of the football. 0:07:54.225 --> 0:07:56.985 But the bottom line is is on Sunday in this game, 0:07:57.185 --> 0:07:59.225 and he's going to have it again on Sunday against 0:07:59.265 --> 0:08:02.225 Mike McDaniel, who's another guy that I would put on 0:08:02.265 --> 0:08:06.345 that short list of offensive innovators, you know, play design 0:08:06.545 --> 0:08:10.265 and calling plays and things like that. Sean McVay took 0:08:10.305 --> 0:08:13.545 him behind the woodshed on Sunday and it happens like 0:08:13.625 --> 0:08:18.265 that's that that's going to happen. But like your point, 0:08:18.905 --> 0:08:20.785 how does he learn from it? Like, how do they 0:08:20.865 --> 0:08:22.184 evolve from it moving forward? 0:08:22.305 --> 0:08:24.385 I want to see something different. I want to see 0:08:24.385 --> 0:08:26.825 a wrinkle. I want to see an attitude. I want 0:08:26.825 --> 0:08:29.905 to see an energy. I want to see something that 0:08:30.145 --> 0:08:32.825 tells me, hey, they're catching on here. I haven't seen 0:08:32.865 --> 0:08:35.345 that yet, and that's a little disturbing. And I would 0:08:35.345 --> 0:08:37.145 tell you maybe it's because they've decided they're going to 0:08:37.185 --> 0:08:39.545 stay the course and reevaluate it all at the end 0:08:39.585 --> 0:08:42.265 of the year. If so, then these coaches are the 0:08:42.305 --> 0:08:46.025 most disciplined coaches I've ever seen in my life, because 0:08:46.545 --> 0:08:50.265 you know, every season requires adjustments. I mean, my goodness, 0:08:50.385 --> 0:08:52.665 I've been covering the NFL longer than any of these 0:08:52.705 --> 0:08:57.464 guys have been alive, and so every season sees adjustments 0:08:57.465 --> 0:09:00.985 from within, from the coaches, from the players, from the administrators, 0:09:00.985 --> 0:09:04.785 from every You must adjust to win. If you stay 0:09:04.865 --> 0:09:07.545 with one thing and you're still doing that same thing 0:09:07.585 --> 0:09:09.705 at the end of the year, I would tell you 0:09:09.704 --> 0:09:10.385 you're losing. 0:09:10.944 --> 0:09:14.145 Yeah, yeah, look, I think that's fair. And when you 0:09:14.145 --> 0:09:18.665 look at this game plan from the Bears week to 0:09:18.704 --> 0:09:21.064 the Rams week, one of the things that I thought 0:09:21.585 --> 0:09:25.665 they did that didn't work was they took a lot 0:09:25.704 --> 0:09:28.265 of the same things that they did against Chicago and 0:09:28.385 --> 0:09:32.185 expected those things to work against them. And in theory, 0:09:32.225 --> 0:09:35.145 I can understand where you're going with it, because you're like, well, 0:09:35.385 --> 0:09:38.625 we shut down the Bears, or're probably not going to 0:09:38.665 --> 0:09:41.145 shut down the Rams with as much success. But if 0:09:41.145 --> 0:09:43.465 it ain't broke, don't fix it, you know, So let's 0:09:43.505 --> 0:09:46.265 not try to get too cute here. But at the 0:09:46.304 --> 0:09:48.785 same time, it's just such a different matchup. You have 0:09:49.265 --> 0:09:53.145 a rookie quarterback in Chicago versus a sixteen year veteran 0:09:53.184 --> 0:09:56.864 in Matthew Stafford with the Rams, who I believe Stafford's 0:09:56.865 --> 0:09:58.865 one of the best quarterbacks in the league. I think 0:09:58.865 --> 0:10:01.224 he's a top ten quarterback in the NFL. So you 0:10:01.304 --> 0:10:05.345 have an experienced quarterback that's really really good. You have 0:10:05.785 --> 0:10:08.745 two receivers in Kup and Nikua who are really really 0:10:08.745 --> 0:10:11.825 good and also are tough matchups for you just because 0:10:11.865 --> 0:10:14.985 of their size and their ability to create yards after 0:10:15.025 --> 0:10:18.224 the catch. And both those guys are just our big, 0:10:18.505 --> 0:10:21.265 tough dudes to tackle in the open field and they're 0:10:21.265 --> 0:10:23.865 a little bit smaller in the cornerback room. So it's 0:10:23.944 --> 0:10:26.905 just a difficult matchup in that aspect. And then you 0:10:26.944 --> 0:10:29.625 also have all of mcveigh's bells and whistles, you know, 0:10:29.665 --> 0:10:32.225 the motion and the bunches and the nasty looks and 0:10:32.304 --> 0:10:34.505 things like that that we can get into. So all 0:10:34.545 --> 0:10:38.464 of that stuff, you know, is problematic and the biggest 0:10:38.465 --> 0:10:43.825 thing that I just learned from watching Bill Belichick is 0:10:43.865 --> 0:10:47.345 that you have to take something away from the opponent, 0:10:47.505 --> 0:10:49.705 like you can't let them do it all. 0:10:49.745 --> 0:10:51.425 And that's been to me the biggest fail of the 0:10:51.425 --> 0:10:54.944 coaching staff all year. Yeah, they haven't taken away what 0:10:55.145 --> 0:10:58.345 the one thing you need to take away the decision 0:10:58.465 --> 0:11:01.625 last week and again I'm probably you know, just a 0:11:01.704 --> 0:11:05.704 piling on here, but the decision to play Christian Gonzales 0:11:05.745 --> 0:11:07.585 on the short side of the field, the boundary side. 0:11:07.585 --> 0:11:10.064 If you're wondering what the terminology means because you hear 0:11:10.105 --> 0:11:13.505 that term a lot nowadays, and to not have him 0:11:13.745 --> 0:11:16.465 either take out you know, Cooper cup or Pooka Nakula 0:11:16.625 --> 0:11:20.145 was mind boggling. Now, I guess I understand in principle 0:11:20.184 --> 0:11:23.065 what they were trying to do, But at halftime you 0:11:23.064 --> 0:11:26.625 should have known because of the first half that Nakula had. 0:11:26.745 --> 0:11:28.545 You should have known, I think we need to make 0:11:28.585 --> 0:11:32.064 a change up here. Didn't do that, and so you've 0:11:32.105 --> 0:11:35.184 got to give them something they're not expecting. Yeah, Sean 0:11:35.304 --> 0:11:40.185 McVay and the Rams reacted, and that's why after the 0:11:40.225 --> 0:11:43.184 first couple of drives, they punched the fate the Patriots 0:11:43.225 --> 0:11:43.785 right in the nose. 0:11:43.985 --> 0:11:47.465 Yeah, yeah, the Gonzales stuff. And I went on this 0:11:48.064 --> 0:11:50.785 yesterday and I understand people are gonna disagree with me, 0:11:51.225 --> 0:11:54.345 and that's fine. I didn't think the coverage plan with 0:11:54.425 --> 0:11:59.105 Gonzales was all that bad, the main reason being, and 0:11:59.184 --> 0:12:01.745 I've talked to some people about this that have coached 0:12:01.785 --> 0:12:04.505 in the league, and so I feel pretty confident in 0:12:04.585 --> 0:12:07.184 saying it at this point, when you play a team 0:12:07.265 --> 0:12:09.785 like the Rams, who use a lot of motion and 0:12:09.865 --> 0:12:13.705 use a lot of bunch formation, it's very difficult to 0:12:13.824 --> 0:12:17.224 play straight man to man against teams like that because 0:12:17.824 --> 0:12:22.905 what they're doing is they're creating picks, they're creating re release, 0:12:23.025 --> 0:12:26.105 they're creating leverage with all these different things that they're doing. 0:12:26.184 --> 0:12:28.705 I understand all of that, but isn't that what audibles 0:12:28.704 --> 0:12:30.744 were for. Isn't that whoever's calling the signals on the 0:12:30.785 --> 0:12:32.944 defense and what that for based on what they come 0:12:32.985 --> 0:12:35.025 out in the lineup. So and I know that they 0:12:35.025 --> 0:12:37.145 went back and forth between man and zone. They played 0:12:37.145 --> 0:12:39.745 both defenses against the Rams, but seems like they were 0:12:39.785 --> 0:12:43.785 caught in the wrong spot. Every time they needed to 0:12:43.865 --> 0:12:46.665 be in a man's situation, they were caught and it 0:12:46.704 --> 0:12:50.145 was like they were caught flat footed. They were reactionary 0:12:50.585 --> 0:12:54.785 instead of you know, proactive, and that's you. That's where 0:12:54.824 --> 0:12:58.905 I want to see. I want to see proactive, not reactive, 0:12:59.304 --> 0:13:00.505 and we haven't seen that yet. 0:13:00.545 --> 0:13:03.025 Yeah, I get I get everything you're saying. I just 0:13:03.385 --> 0:13:06.665 schematically and I'm not, you know, trying to take a 0:13:06.704 --> 0:13:09.105 shot at you, but I just schematically. I feel like 0:13:09.625 --> 0:13:15.465 it's it's a lot, right. It sounds logical to just 0:13:15.505 --> 0:13:19.025 say Nikua's got to go in today, Let's put Gonzales 0:13:19.025 --> 0:13:22.025 on Nikua. Like it sounds logical, and I think sometimes 0:13:22.064 --> 0:13:23.745 there's a lot to be said for the fact that 0:13:23.745 --> 0:13:26.985 the simplest thing is the right thing in football. But 0:13:27.064 --> 0:13:31.265 as logical as it sounds, in practice, it's not as 0:13:31.385 --> 0:13:33.425 easy as it sounds. If that makes sense. 0:13:33.505 --> 0:13:35.985 Sure, and no, I understand it. I get it all. 0:13:36.064 --> 0:13:39.064 I get it all. I think the bottom line is 0:13:39.064 --> 0:13:41.705 is what they really need is they need another cover corner. Yeah, 0:13:42.064 --> 0:13:42.464 somebody else. 0:13:42.505 --> 0:13:46.304 That's that's my biggest takeaway from this game, because you know, 0:13:46.385 --> 0:13:49.825 go back to it, go and watch early on in 0:13:49.865 --> 0:13:53.745 this game, what was happening was is that McVeigh was 0:13:54.585 --> 0:13:57.865 they were starting Gonzalez on Nikua. Sure, and then McVeigh 0:13:57.944 --> 0:14:01.305 was motioning him across the formation into bunch alignments and 0:14:01.345 --> 0:14:03.865 then releasing him out of the bunch alignment at the snap, 0:14:03.985 --> 0:14:07.505 So there's no time for communication or switching or whatever. 0:14:08.064 --> 0:14:12.585 And once they snapped the football, Nikua was running into 0:14:12.625 --> 0:14:16.545 somebody else's zone and leaving Gonzalez right, So then Gonzalez 0:14:16.585 --> 0:14:19.345 had to pass him off to other people. And now 0:14:19.425 --> 0:14:23.105 what happens is is you started with Gonzalez on Nikua, 0:14:23.185 --> 0:14:26.865 but you're ending with Marco Wilson on Nikua instead. Yeah, 0:14:27.145 --> 0:14:29.905 and that is all McVeigh, right, Like, that's all scheme. 0:14:30.265 --> 0:14:33.145 Okay, I would have been proactive with that. How did 0:14:33.145 --> 0:14:36.665 the Patriots beat the Rams in Super Bowl thirty six? 0:14:37.225 --> 0:14:39.625 Super Bowl thirty six? Oh man, that's going back aways, 0:14:39.745 --> 0:14:43.625 Yes it is before you were alive. I was at it. Actually, No, 0:14:43.905 --> 0:14:45.104 definitely not before. 0:14:45.705 --> 0:14:48.305 Okay, but I'm asking sort of rhetorically, all right, Yeah, 0:14:48.345 --> 0:14:50.385 so how do they beat them? Because they lined up 0:14:50.385 --> 0:14:51.505 and they smacked them in the mouth. 0:14:51.665 --> 0:14:53.945 Yeah, but that team was different like that from what 0:14:54.025 --> 0:14:56.025 I understand of that RAMS team, And I don't I 0:14:56.065 --> 0:14:58.985 don't study that Rams team like I study these Rams teams, 0:14:58.985 --> 0:15:01.905 but like the team back in oh, one in the 0:15:01.945 --> 0:15:04.025 way you played like it was stagnant offense. 0:15:04.105 --> 0:15:04.225 Right. 0:15:04.265 --> 0:15:06.665 They were an eleven personnel team that came out in 0:15:06.705 --> 0:15:09.505 three receiver you know, it was Bruce to one side, 0:15:09.545 --> 0:15:11.705 hold to the other side, and they just played football 0:15:11.865 --> 0:15:14.465 right like this team would nowadays. And we're gonna see 0:15:14.465 --> 0:15:16.465 it again on Sunday with Miami. So this is sort 0:15:16.505 --> 0:15:18.425 of my big thing of the week is like, you 0:15:18.545 --> 0:15:21.385 stunk against motion last week, so you better figured the 0:15:21.425 --> 0:15:22.585 freak out. 0:15:22.625 --> 0:15:24.345 Yeah, Jammy is gonna motion you today. 0:15:24.465 --> 0:15:26.385 Yeah, they're gonna do the exact same thing that the 0:15:26.505 --> 0:15:27.225 Rams just did. 0:15:27.345 --> 0:15:27.705 Correct. 0:15:27.745 --> 0:15:30.545 And so those teams back in the day, they didn't 0:15:30.665 --> 0:15:33.665 motion like these offenses do now. They didn't have that 0:15:33.745 --> 0:15:36.465 type of you know, this is more innovative or in 0:15:36.625 --> 0:15:39.185 a more new agey I hate using that phrase, but 0:15:39.225 --> 0:15:41.345 that's what it is, right. Yeah, I'd say in the 0:15:41.385 --> 0:15:45.825 last five to ten years, motion at the snap, not shifting, 0:15:46.025 --> 0:15:48.305 but motion at the snap, would you know, jet motion 0:15:48.545 --> 0:15:51.425 and missile motion and things like that, all that type 0:15:51.465 --> 0:15:53.465 of stuff has really taken off, I would say in 0:15:53.505 --> 0:15:57.385 the last you know, five years in football. So it's 0:15:57.385 --> 0:15:59.225 not the first time they've ever seen it, and it 0:15:59.265 --> 0:16:01.025 certainly looked like it was the first time they had 0:16:01.025 --> 0:16:03.625 ever seen it on Sunday. So I'm not letting them 0:16:03.625 --> 0:16:07.345 off the hook. I just I understood the philosophy of 0:16:07.345 --> 0:16:09.745 the game plan. I just think execution and the coaches 0:16:09.825 --> 0:16:13.065 have to take responsibility for execution as well. Like that, 0:16:13.265 --> 0:16:14.945 it's on them to get the guys ready, and they 0:16:14.945 --> 0:16:15.465 weren't ready. 0:16:16.265 --> 0:16:19.265 Hey, Marine, for some reason, the cursor isn't coming up 0:16:19.265 --> 0:16:21.945 on the call thing here, so you may have to 0:16:21.945 --> 0:16:28.145 bring the did you turn it off? Technology? 0:16:28.265 --> 0:16:29.585 Do you need help? Do you need help? 0:16:29.625 --> 0:16:32.745 I might wait? Is that it there? You go? Oh 0:16:32.825 --> 0:16:37.345 my god? It works now? You trying to say battery power? 0:16:37.385 --> 0:16:37.545 You know? 0:16:38.865 --> 0:16:40.905 Smart by him. 0:16:39.945 --> 0:16:43.745 It's what happens when you don't win. You know, you 0:16:43.825 --> 0:16:45.905 gotta watch you all the batteries that you have and 0:16:46.185 --> 0:16:47.945 make sure that you're taking them out of the things 0:16:47.945 --> 0:16:51.265 that you like. I get it, I get no, I 0:16:51.305 --> 0:16:51.985 get it, I get it. 0:16:51.985 --> 0:16:54.185 Hey, I'm just is focusing this game for one minute? 0:16:54.625 --> 0:16:57.225 I know, I'm just happy to be here. Chris Perkins 0:16:57.625 --> 0:17:00.305 covers the Miami Dolphins for the South fold of Sun Sentinel. 0:17:00.505 --> 0:17:02.065 Kind of enough to join us for a bit here 0:17:02.385 --> 0:17:04.905 inside the playbook, Hey, Chris, it's John and Evan here 0:17:04.945 --> 0:17:05.585 in Foxborough. 0:17:05.585 --> 0:17:09.065 How are you today, Hey guys, I'm doing good man. 0:17:09.385 --> 0:17:11.625 The Dolphins have won back to back games for the 0:17:11.665 --> 0:17:13.185 first time in almost a years. 0:17:13.185 --> 0:17:13.585 How about that? 0:17:14.185 --> 0:17:15.984 People down here at giddy they don't know what to 0:17:16.025 --> 0:17:16.505 do right now. 0:17:16.505 --> 0:17:19.305 I can only imagine, but I would tell you that 0:17:19.305 --> 0:17:21.985 there's an opportunity, a real opportunity, based on a couple 0:17:22.025 --> 0:17:24.345 of things that we've already talked about. Number One, you know, 0:17:24.425 --> 0:17:27.625 the Patriots got themselves motioned to death this past week 0:17:27.665 --> 0:17:30.024 against the Rams, which certainly I think would be an 0:17:30.385 --> 0:17:32.785 clue for the Dolphins in terms of trying to formulate 0:17:32.785 --> 0:17:35.145 a attack. Number one. But number two, Dolphins have it 0:17:35.185 --> 0:17:37.864 all over the Patriots right now. They've just you know, 0:17:38.705 --> 0:17:40.665 I don't know if Tua has a cast of spell, 0:17:41.065 --> 0:17:43.504 Mike McDaniel his cast a spell. I don't know what 0:17:43.545 --> 0:17:47.585 it is. But this Patriots team cannot beat that Dolphins 0:17:47.585 --> 0:17:50.824 team unless this Dolphins team, I think, shoots itself in 0:17:50.865 --> 0:17:51.905 the foot. What are your thoughts? 0:17:53.105 --> 0:17:56.344 It's an interesting dynamic. I believe that Mike McDaniel was 0:17:56.385 --> 0:17:59.264 four and one against the Patriot but we all know 0:17:59.305 --> 0:18:01.824 what happened that last game, right Jalen Polk is like 0:18:02.264 --> 0:18:05.265 a half foot literally east delivering a victory. 0:18:05.385 --> 0:18:05.585 Yep. 0:18:05.744 --> 0:18:08.625 So you know the Dolphins have to be wary. But 0:18:09.145 --> 0:18:12.465 you know, the strange thing with the Dolphins right now 0:18:12.545 --> 0:18:15.625 is they're kind of going through this metamorphosis. And you know, 0:18:15.665 --> 0:18:19.064 they came into the season with this high scoring, you know, 0:18:19.264 --> 0:18:22.825 big play passing game that they've used the previous two seasons, 0:18:23.065 --> 0:18:26.425 and it was Tua Tyreek and Jalen Waddell. Well, now 0:18:26.625 --> 0:18:30.825 it's Tua Devon Chan and John new Smith. And really 0:18:30.865 --> 0:18:33.344 teams have taken away the deep ball by playing the 0:18:33.385 --> 0:18:36.465 too high safety look, pressing them at the line of scrimmage. 0:18:36.744 --> 0:18:39.905 And so the Dolphins have switched and now they're trying 0:18:39.945 --> 0:18:42.745 to go with the underneath stuff, the short control passing 0:18:42.785 --> 0:18:46.145 game to a fan and John new Smith and then 0:18:46.945 --> 0:18:50.185 you know, using a running game. So we'll see what 0:18:50.264 --> 0:18:53.345 happens here. But you know, the Dolphins, you know, and 0:18:53.625 --> 0:18:56.984 I'll tell you this also, the motion had been cut 0:18:57.065 --> 0:18:59.745 down a little bit, and that was in the roll 0:18:59.905 --> 0:19:03.225 games against Buffalo and the Rams. I'll be interested to 0:19:03.264 --> 0:19:06.905 see how much that motion comes back here in a 0:19:07.905 --> 0:19:10.225 home game. It kind of came back a little bit 0:19:10.305 --> 0:19:13.185 last week, But I'll see how much. It'll be interesting 0:19:13.225 --> 0:19:15.985 to see how much they rely on that again this week. 0:19:16.705 --> 0:19:19.705 Is there any chance at all that this game is 0:19:19.744 --> 0:19:22.705 played tighter to the vest, and maybe we think, like 0:19:22.744 --> 0:19:25.425 the fifteen to ten game back in September. 0:19:26.225 --> 0:19:28.425 It could, it could. I don't know what to expect 0:19:28.425 --> 0:19:31.064 from these Dolphins now. Now they're under going just change. 0:19:31.105 --> 0:19:33.505 You know, it used to be you at pencil these 0:19:33.504 --> 0:19:36.145 guys in for twenty something points and maybe they go 0:19:36.225 --> 0:19:39.024 up to thirty or forty, and kind of now you 0:19:39.225 --> 0:19:42.625 kind of pencil them in for what maybe seventeen point 0:19:42.744 --> 0:19:45.264 twenty point and you see if they can get up 0:19:45.264 --> 0:19:47.905 to like twenty seven. So it's a new era of 0:19:47.984 --> 0:19:52.305 Golfon's football, and you know, again it's a little more measured, 0:19:52.345 --> 0:19:55.384 a little more conventional. So I really don't know what 0:19:55.425 --> 0:19:56.544 to expect from this offense. 0:19:57.465 --> 0:20:00.425 Well, you know, the fact the better is that this 0:20:00.504 --> 0:20:04.225 is completely different team when Tua is quarterbacking. And I 0:20:04.264 --> 0:20:07.384 think that's even obvious to those who are, you know, 0:20:07.425 --> 0:20:11.385 really not familiar with the Miami Dolphins. So with Tua 0:20:11.545 --> 0:20:16.504 back and seemingly the entire offense playing with more confidence, 0:20:16.825 --> 0:20:19.744 how does this team continue to try to build to 0:20:19.744 --> 0:20:22.105 see if they can't play their way back into legitimate 0:20:22.145 --> 0:20:22.945 playoff contention. 0:20:24.385 --> 0:20:27.544 I think the offensive key is going to be this 0:20:27.744 --> 0:20:31.745 run game and the control passing game. Again, devon Ah 0:20:31.785 --> 0:20:34.824 chan Uh at running back and John new Smith at 0:20:34.865 --> 0:20:37.544 tight end are going to be the stars. They're still 0:20:37.585 --> 0:20:40.665 willing to look for opportunities to hit Tyreek Hill and 0:20:40.785 --> 0:20:45.225 Jalen Waddle deep because really that's what makes this offense dangerous. 0:20:45.264 --> 0:20:49.305 Without that element, you know, you you kind of respect 0:20:49.345 --> 0:20:53.425 this offense, but you there's no fear. So I'm gonna 0:20:53.465 --> 0:20:56.985 be very interested to to to see what happens there 0:20:57.025 --> 0:21:01.544 as far as this offense. Defensively, looking ahead, you've gotta 0:21:01.585 --> 0:21:04.785 stay healthy and and that means Zach Steeler and Kaleis 0:21:04.825 --> 0:21:08.385 Campbell on the defensive line and Jalen Ramsey there at 0:21:08.425 --> 0:21:13.304 safety and probably uh Jevon Holland also back there at safety. 0:21:13.345 --> 0:21:17.345 Jordan Foyer has really struggled this season, so that those 0:21:17.504 --> 0:21:19.824 that's really the way ahead for this team is that 0:21:19.905 --> 0:21:22.185 they've got to keep their key players healthy and then 0:21:22.225 --> 0:21:25.665 they've got to develop their new identity and figure out 0:21:25.744 --> 0:21:29.225 who they are offensively. But they're still kind of searching 0:21:29.264 --> 0:21:31.825 when you when you look ahead to find out who 0:21:31.865 --> 0:21:34.865 they are because they've switched from the team that entered 0:21:34.865 --> 0:21:35.264 the season. 0:21:35.425 --> 0:21:37.625 Yeah, you know, that's actually kind of my biggest question 0:21:37.665 --> 0:21:39.824 about the Dolphins because you know, you brought up a 0:21:39.825 --> 0:21:41.744 great point. They've gone to more of an underneath game, 0:21:42.504 --> 0:21:44.305 you know, since two has come back here. But I'm 0:21:44.345 --> 0:21:46.784 wondering if they might not try to get back to 0:21:46.825 --> 0:21:49.705 the way things were earlier in the season. They didn't 0:21:49.744 --> 0:21:52.064 have a whole lot of success with that against the 0:21:52.105 --> 0:21:55.984 Patriots back in September, but they certainly were a little 0:21:55.984 --> 0:21:59.225 bit more dynamic in offense like that. Do they need 0:21:59.264 --> 0:22:00.825 to get back to that in order to have long 0:22:00.905 --> 0:22:03.984 term success where, let's face it, even immediate successes they 0:22:03.984 --> 0:22:05.504 try to get back into the playoff picture. 0:22:06.625 --> 0:22:08.945 Yeah, I kind of think that they do, because you know, 0:22:09.065 --> 0:22:11.504 the one thing that we have not seen from this offense. 0:22:11.545 --> 0:22:13.545 You know, this offense now is going on a lot 0:22:13.545 --> 0:22:17.504 of ten and eleven and fourteen play drives, and that 0:22:17.705 --> 0:22:21.024 requires you to be almost flawless, right, don't get behind 0:22:21.065 --> 0:22:24.905 the chains and face of first and fifteen. You know, 0:22:24.984 --> 0:22:29.705 against against Buffalo, Raheem Mostert had a third quarter fumble. 0:22:30.264 --> 0:22:34.665 They never recovered from against Arizona to a fumble three times. 0:22:34.825 --> 0:22:38.465 Heck Tua had the snap go through his hands that 0:22:38.585 --> 0:22:41.465 counted for a safety in a twenty eight to twenty 0:22:41.465 --> 0:22:45.025 seven loss. So you know, there's all these little things 0:22:45.025 --> 0:22:47.544 that this team has to clean up, and when you 0:22:47.665 --> 0:22:51.264 have to go you know, station to station, those things 0:22:51.345 --> 0:22:53.625 crop up a lot more that that. That big play, 0:22:53.665 --> 0:22:56.385 that one eighty yard touchdown, that removes a lot of 0:22:56.385 --> 0:22:58.945 the stink you know from the from the mishandled uh, 0:22:59.025 --> 0:23:02.104 you know, the fumbles and the mishandled nats. So you 0:23:02.145 --> 0:23:05.105 know that that's one thing that moving forward, I think 0:23:05.145 --> 0:23:08.425 that the big play is a necessity, not only to 0:23:08.465 --> 0:23:10.544 help you come back if you're down ten in the 0:23:10.585 --> 0:23:13.425 fourth quarter, but also yeah, if you if you lose 0:23:13.425 --> 0:23:17.145 a fumble or have an interception or or whatever, that 0:23:17.225 --> 0:23:20.225 big play can help you erase that mistake very quickly. 0:23:20.425 --> 0:23:24.065 Right. You actually wrote I think uh for the Sun 0:23:24.105 --> 0:23:27.465 centaal this week about how you know, this offense has evolved, 0:23:27.504 --> 0:23:30.865 but it's still probably not good enough for this team 0:23:30.945 --> 0:23:32.744 to get to where it wants to go. Is that 0:23:33.065 --> 0:23:33.705 still accurate? 0:23:33.744 --> 0:23:36.145 You think I think it is. I think it is. 0:23:36.185 --> 0:23:38.864 And look, here's the Dolphins situation. They're sitting here at 0:23:38.865 --> 0:23:43.065 four and six. I'm thinking that nine wins probably gets 0:23:43.065 --> 0:23:45.385 you in in the AFC. So the Dolphins are looking 0:23:45.425 --> 0:23:48.225 at having to win five of their last seven games. 0:23:48.744 --> 0:23:52.145 The toughest three games on the schedule are at green 0:23:52.185 --> 0:23:55.504 Bay on Thanksgiving Night, at Houston, and at home against 0:23:55.504 --> 0:23:59.625 San Francisco, So you know you're probably gonna have to 0:23:59.665 --> 0:24:03.064 win one of those games, and then you're remaining four games. 0:24:03.065 --> 0:24:05.945 You got the Jets twice, and you got the Patriots 0:24:05.945 --> 0:24:10.105 on Sunday, and then you've got Cleveland also, so you 0:24:10.145 --> 0:24:13.305 know they the path is there. You know they don't 0:24:13.305 --> 0:24:17.785 have to beat Houston and Green Bay and San Francisco. 0:24:18.705 --> 0:24:21.665 If you win those other four games, then you only 0:24:21.705 --> 0:24:23.905 have to beat one of those three teams. So that's 0:24:23.945 --> 0:24:28.305 the path. But is that offense ready? Is the offense 0:24:28.425 --> 0:24:31.185 ready to take them there? I don't know. You might 0:24:31.305 --> 0:24:33.665 need more help from the defense than you would have 0:24:33.744 --> 0:24:37.145 needed last year or two years ago, makes sense. 0:24:37.345 --> 0:24:39.304 Chris, just a couple of questions. I do want to 0:24:39.305 --> 0:24:41.425 talk about the defense here in a second, but I 0:24:41.465 --> 0:24:44.905 want to stick with McDaniel because I feel like there's 0:24:44.945 --> 0:24:47.784 a lot of narratives about him and about his coaching 0:24:47.825 --> 0:24:50.425 future in Miami in terms of how he's been able 0:24:50.425 --> 0:24:53.024 to adjust and you know, how he's been able to 0:24:53.305 --> 0:24:56.225 have the offense be productive throughout the course of the 0:24:56.225 --> 0:24:59.385 season late in the year specifically, what have you seen 0:24:59.385 --> 0:25:01.865 from McDaniel this year, and like, where do you kind 0:25:01.865 --> 0:25:03.984 of stand with him as the Dolphins head coach. 0:25:05.465 --> 0:25:08.864 I'm still late and see I do give him credit 0:25:08.984 --> 0:25:13.105 for going away from this, you know, Tyreek Hill, Jalen 0:25:13.185 --> 0:25:17.145 Waddell based offense, recognizing that you're really stuck in the mud, 0:25:17.225 --> 0:25:19.264 that that teams have figured this out. They're going to 0:25:19.305 --> 0:25:21.945 play that too high safety look and they're gonna take 0:25:21.945 --> 0:25:24.625 that deep pass away. There's no reason to keep forcing 0:25:24.665 --> 0:25:28.425 it go to something else. That's good recognition by Mike McDaniel. 0:25:29.025 --> 0:25:33.145 But I still need to the just general leadership hit 0:25:33.305 --> 0:25:36.305 coach Chopp. You know, this is his first hit coaching job, 0:25:36.625 --> 0:25:39.744 this is his first time calling play, so there's a 0:25:39.744 --> 0:25:43.465 lot on his plate. You know, here's a guy who boy, 0:25:43.504 --> 0:25:45.305 I'm trying to think of the numbers. I think they 0:25:45.345 --> 0:25:48.665 came into the season seven and twelve on the road. 0:25:49.185 --> 0:25:51.104 They're two and three now, so that will make them 0:25:51.145 --> 0:25:52.504 what nine and sixteen. 0:25:52.185 --> 0:25:52.705 On the road. 0:25:53.025 --> 0:25:57.545 They're four and ten in December and January. So that's 0:25:57.585 --> 0:26:00.625 a couple of big hurdles right there that you've you know, 0:26:00.744 --> 0:26:03.905 as a coach, you know, the better teams in the 0:26:03.984 --> 0:26:06.465 league are going to be around five hundred on the road, 0:26:06.585 --> 0:26:09.145 and you're certainly going to have to know how to 0:26:09.225 --> 0:26:13.025 win games in December and January. So you know, Mike 0:26:13.105 --> 0:26:16.385 McDaniel is improving, but there's still some questions he has 0:26:16.425 --> 0:26:16.945 to answer. 0:26:17.385 --> 0:26:19.345 Yeah, And on the other side of the ball, since 0:26:19.585 --> 0:26:22.425 the Dolphins offense is definitely more exciting to talk about, 0:26:22.465 --> 0:26:26.145 I think sometimes for some people, but for the defense 0:26:26.345 --> 0:26:30.304 I believe is this three defensive coordinators already for Mike McDaniel, right, 0:26:30.705 --> 0:26:33.665 that's correct. Yeah, And you know, just what have you 0:26:33.705 --> 0:26:35.945 seen from Anthony Weaver and do you feel like they 0:26:36.105 --> 0:26:37.984 finally found an answer there at DC? 0:26:39.145 --> 0:26:42.024 Oh? Yeah, Weave has been great now, he has been outstanding. 0:26:42.065 --> 0:26:44.185 I like the way that he has used Jalen Ramsey, 0:26:44.705 --> 0:26:48.625 specifically Ramsey. The only player that Ramsey has shadowed has 0:26:48.625 --> 0:26:51.425 been DK Metcalf. But what they're doing with Jalen Ramsey, 0:26:51.744 --> 0:26:54.345 they're getting him close to the ball and they're using 0:26:54.425 --> 0:26:59.024 him to extinguish the biggest threat on that specific down 0:26:59.145 --> 0:27:03.305 and distance. So you know, first and ten from from 0:27:03.345 --> 0:27:06.185 the opponent's twenty yard line, you know, Ramsey might be 0:27:06.264 --> 0:27:09.865 lined up on an outside receiver. Second and two from 0:27:09.905 --> 0:27:11.865 the twenty eight, he might be lined up on the 0:27:11.905 --> 0:27:14.665 slot receiver because that's where the team goes in those 0:27:14.665 --> 0:27:17.625 short yard is situations. First and ten from the forty, 0:27:17.705 --> 0:27:19.345 he might be lined up in the slot, and he 0:27:19.425 --> 0:27:22.625 might be blitzing. He's been good against the run. He's 0:27:22.744 --> 0:27:27.744 you know, he's been able to defend slot receivers, outside receivers, 0:27:27.825 --> 0:27:30.824 tight ends everything. So that's one thing that I like 0:27:30.865 --> 0:27:34.984 about Anthony Weaver that Vic Fangio did not do last year. 0:27:35.465 --> 0:27:38.985 He's using Jalen Ramsey kind of as that Swiss army knife. 0:27:39.145 --> 0:27:42.185 A few other things. You're seeing Kaleis Campbell and and 0:27:42.504 --> 0:27:45.705 Zach Steeler as down lineman moving all over the place. 0:27:46.065 --> 0:27:49.584 That's another good thing, uh, you know, And and the 0:27:49.625 --> 0:27:53.225 pass rush has it's pretty much been non existent for 0:27:53.305 --> 0:27:56.544 the Dolphins because Jalen Phillips and Bradley Chubb have pretty 0:27:56.585 --> 0:27:58.665 much been out all year. Chubb out all year with 0:27:58.705 --> 0:28:01.544 the with the knee that he sustained on New Year's 0:28:01.585 --> 0:28:04.425 Eve last season, and then Jalen Phillips. You know, he 0:28:04.504 --> 0:28:08.105 had the the Achilles last year on Black Friday. He 0:28:08.225 --> 0:28:10.105 came back and played I don't know what the first 0:28:10.145 --> 0:28:13.145 four five games this year and had a knee injury. 0:28:13.185 --> 0:28:15.905 So you don't have Chubb or Phillips, but they've been 0:28:16.185 --> 0:28:21.024 able to get decent pressure on quarterbacks, not sacked, not 0:28:21.145 --> 0:28:24.705 finishing the play, but decent pressure. Chop Robinson, the first 0:28:24.785 --> 0:28:27.425 round kick has been coming on the last three weeks. 0:28:27.865 --> 0:28:30.665 Here's the other thing about Anthony Weaver and this defense 0:28:30.705 --> 0:28:33.625 has been good. They were the number ten defense in 0:28:33.665 --> 0:28:36.705 the league last year under Big Fangio, and they've been 0:28:36.984 --> 0:28:41.385 pretty much just as productive. If the defense continues trending 0:28:41.545 --> 0:28:44.625 in this direction, Weaver might get a hit coaching job. 0:28:44.705 --> 0:28:47.745 I think he's interviewed twice for hit coaches. But so, 0:28:48.145 --> 0:28:50.104 you know, that's kind of the down thing is like 0:28:50.345 --> 0:28:53.225 the better Weaver does, the bigger chance that you're going 0:28:53.305 --> 0:28:55.905 to be on your fourth defensive coordinator in four years 0:28:55.945 --> 0:28:59.065 next year, because that guy could get a hit coaching job. 0:28:59.185 --> 0:29:01.945 Yeah, it's interesting that you mentioned that because when I 0:29:02.225 --> 0:29:05.385 looked up his you know, information, sort of his bio 0:29:05.545 --> 0:29:09.185 this this week. He's he's got sort of the resume, 0:29:09.385 --> 0:29:12.625 you know, former player turned coach, forty four years old, 0:29:12.705 --> 0:29:14.584 Like you know, we got one of those here. 0:29:14.425 --> 0:29:16.985 And Mayo demography. 0:29:17.025 --> 0:29:20.345 Yeah, so he's kind of got those those boxes checked. 0:29:20.425 --> 0:29:23.785 So it's interesting you mentioned Chop Robinson there as well. 0:29:23.785 --> 0:29:26.265 It does seem like, you know, PFF pressures and all 0:29:26.305 --> 0:29:28.545 that kind of stuff. It's it feels like he's starting 0:29:28.585 --> 0:29:29.665 to come on here a little bit. 0:29:30.585 --> 0:29:32.585 Yeah, and what you're gonna see this week with Chopping, 0:29:32.625 --> 0:29:35.225 you know, Chop. Here's the funny thing about Chop. You know, 0:29:35.425 --> 0:29:38.265 even in college, he had a high pressure rate, but 0:29:38.305 --> 0:29:40.185 he didn't finish. He didn't have a lot of sacks. 0:29:40.505 --> 0:29:42.785 And you always heard, well, he's got a big win rate, 0:29:42.905 --> 0:29:45.025 you know, but and it's kind of like, yeah, but 0:29:45.065 --> 0:29:48.545 he's not finishing the plays. That's exactly what we've seen here, 0:29:48.705 --> 0:29:52.145 that that he's got the good win rate and all 0:29:52.185 --> 0:29:54.745 that kind of stuff, but he wasn't finishing plays. He 0:29:54.865 --> 0:29:58.345 wasn't actually getting the sack. He started to do better 0:29:58.385 --> 0:30:00.225 the last couple of weeks. I think he's had two 0:30:00.225 --> 0:30:02.625 sacks in the last three games, if I'm not mistaken. 0:30:02.945 --> 0:30:05.105 But one thing that you're gonna see on Sunday that 0:30:05.145 --> 0:30:07.905 they've been doing is they've been lining him up out wide, 0:30:07.985 --> 0:30:10.625 you know, kind of that wide nine position where you're 0:30:10.665 --> 0:30:14.905 outside the offensive tackles outside shoulder, And they say, what 0:30:14.985 --> 0:30:18.105 that does with chops quit first step, That gives him 0:30:18.545 --> 0:30:22.185 a better option of going inside or outside. He has 0:30:22.225 --> 0:30:25.425 a little more uproom to operate. It gives him, you know, 0:30:25.505 --> 0:30:28.864 to a two way option there. So look for that 0:30:28.945 --> 0:30:32.305 with chopping and if he continues to improve, because that's 0:30:32.305 --> 0:30:35.585 a big part of the defense. They need his pass rush, 0:30:35.625 --> 0:30:38.745 they need his pressure on quarterbacks. And by the way, 0:30:38.785 --> 0:30:41.145 the Dolphins are pretty impressed by Drake May, I'll tell 0:30:41.145 --> 0:30:45.025 you that, but they need his chop Robinson's pressure on 0:30:45.185 --> 0:30:47.225 Drake May to have an effective game play. 0:30:47.345 --> 0:30:50.625 Yeah, agreed, Yeah, fair enough, big picture here, real quick, Chris. 0:30:51.505 --> 0:30:53.945 Do the Dolphins need to finish strong to you know, 0:30:54.145 --> 0:30:57.265 help save jobs? And I know that there's been rumors 0:30:57.265 --> 0:30:59.625 about the GM and everything else going on this week, 0:30:59.825 --> 0:31:01.945 you know in South Florida. What are your thoughts in 0:31:01.945 --> 0:31:02.465 that regard. 0:31:03.585 --> 0:31:08.025 Yeah, it's a very interesting situation. So for me, I say, 0:31:08.345 --> 0:31:12.265 never moved the goalposts. The definition of a successful season 0:31:12.305 --> 0:31:14.545 coming into the year was winning a playoff game. Ye 0:31:14.825 --> 0:31:16.985 at this point, it looks like you're gonna have to 0:31:16.985 --> 0:31:19.505 have a strong finish just so you can go get 0:31:19.505 --> 0:31:22.465 your teeth kicked in in the pol weather in Pittsburgh, Buffalo, 0:31:22.625 --> 0:31:27.385 Kansas City, Baltimore, wherever. So, yeah, jobs are on the line. 0:31:27.425 --> 0:31:30.945 This has been a disappointing season. They've underachieved, you know. 0:31:31.865 --> 0:31:34.145 But here's the thing. If they come back, if they 0:31:34.185 --> 0:31:38.305 win nine games and get a wildcard. First, I don't 0:31:38.305 --> 0:31:41.745 know that the general manager, Chris Greer loses his job. 0:31:41.905 --> 0:31:45.505 And to me, these things don't happen in a vacuum. 0:31:45.545 --> 0:31:48.425 There's the front end of it where okay, you know, 0:31:48.545 --> 0:31:52.385 you you you say that you're that Chris Greer is gone. 0:31:52.785 --> 0:31:56.465 But the new GM will probably have to be able 0:31:56.505 --> 0:31:59.505 to work with Mike McDaniel and SUA like they aren't 0:31:59.505 --> 0:32:02.865 going anywhere. It doesn't appear unless it's just an absolute 0:32:02.865 --> 0:32:05.985 disaster of a finish, then maybe Mike McDaniel gets fired. 0:32:06.065 --> 0:32:09.505 But you know, but you're gonna bring in the new GM, 0:32:09.545 --> 0:32:11.625 and then you're gonna have the same quarterback and the 0:32:11.665 --> 0:32:14.785 same coach. And then that's the front end of the problem. 0:32:14.785 --> 0:32:16.385 And on the back end, Well, who are you gonna 0:32:16.425 --> 0:32:19.864 hire as GM? You know, there's a lot of guys 0:32:19.905 --> 0:32:21.945 out there, but is everybody gonna want to come and 0:32:21.985 --> 0:32:25.025 work in these constraints, you know, with this offense and 0:32:25.065 --> 0:32:30.225 everything like that. So I think that Mike McDaniel almost 0:32:30.225 --> 0:32:33.705 in these days to like ninety nine percent will be back. 0:32:34.225 --> 0:32:37.105 Chris Greer, I would say, let's see how the season finishes. 0:32:37.145 --> 0:32:39.625 I would say, right now, he's probably about fifty to 0:32:39.625 --> 0:32:40.905 fifty coming back at GM. 0:32:41.745 --> 0:32:47.785 Okay, well that's that's yeah, that's actually information there more encouraging, right. Yeah. 0:32:47.825 --> 0:32:50.625 I was just gonna say, so, let's let's also just 0:32:50.705 --> 0:32:53.305 cut to the chase right here. How damaging would a 0:32:53.385 --> 0:33:01.745 loss to New England be? Nope, did we lose him? 0:33:02.145 --> 0:33:02.705 Sounds like it. 0:33:03.265 --> 0:33:06.785 I think we may have lost him. Did he just yeah, 0:33:06.785 --> 0:33:09.305 he just kind of like popped. I didn't hit anything, Matt, 0:33:09.345 --> 0:33:13.065 I expect promise, I promise, okay. 0:33:12.865 --> 0:33:13.745 Okay, Yeah, I got you. 0:33:13.825 --> 0:33:16.065 Yeah you're there, Yeah, we got you, We got you. 0:33:16.585 --> 0:33:19.985 Okay. So you know you you asked about a loss 0:33:19.985 --> 0:33:20.705 to the Patriots. 0:33:20.745 --> 0:33:22.465 Yeah, what what would that do to their chances? 0:33:23.345 --> 0:33:25.705 It would hurt them severely and the and the fan 0:33:25.785 --> 0:33:28.345 base would be really really upset. But here's the thing 0:33:28.745 --> 0:33:30.785 I'm calling this season right now out the race to 0:33:30.825 --> 0:33:34.025 the nine nine wins or nine losses, right and and 0:33:34.065 --> 0:33:36.945 that's kind of what it is. So you would still 0:33:37.065 --> 0:33:39.785 have a chance if you took that loss to the Patriots, 0:33:39.825 --> 0:33:42.265 but you would have to be pretty much flawless down 0:33:42.305 --> 0:33:45.425 the stretch and and it would be it would be 0:33:45.545 --> 0:33:47.864 you could overcome it, but it would be a really 0:33:47.985 --> 0:33:51.585 really tough thing going to Green Bay on a short 0:33:51.625 --> 0:33:55.065 week for a Thanksgiving game night, which is probably a loss. 0:33:55.105 --> 0:33:58.305 Then you would have back to back losses. You could recover, 0:33:58.465 --> 0:34:01.265 but it would be really, really really tough. 0:34:01.505 --> 0:34:05.145 Yeah, I would. I would definitely tend to agree with 0:34:05.185 --> 0:34:07.585 that one. It should be interesting as well. All right, Chris, 0:34:07.625 --> 0:34:09.385 thank you so much for the time today. Really spend 0:34:09.385 --> 0:34:11.945 your appreciating and you're sin bending a little time with 0:34:12.065 --> 0:34:14.505 us today to bring us the lowdown on what's going on. 0:34:15.385 --> 0:34:16.504 Not a problem, not a problem. 0:34:16.585 --> 0:34:17.625 Thank you. 0:34:17.625 --> 0:34:20.864 You got it. Chris Perkins at Chris Perk p e 0:34:20.985 --> 0:34:22.945 r K on X if you want to follow him 0:34:22.985 --> 0:34:25.265 and get his latest on the Dolphins. There. I'm all 0:34:25.305 --> 0:34:27.225 tungue tight here because I'm trying to decide which way 0:34:27.225 --> 0:34:29.265 I wanted to go With the next question, I'm like, nah, 0:34:29.265 --> 0:34:30.785 he's been with us long. If we don't want to 0:34:30.785 --> 0:34:32.585 burn him out too much. You know, he's having to 0:34:32.625 --> 0:34:34.425 deal with the dregs of the NFL here, you know. 0:34:34.425 --> 0:34:35.185 With the Patriots at. 0:34:35.105 --> 0:34:40.585 Also, that was good stuff. I definitely, yeah, it's a 0:34:40.625 --> 0:34:45.185 fascinating team. It's not all that different in my mind 0:34:45.225 --> 0:34:47.305 to what's going on in the meadowlands right now with 0:34:47.384 --> 0:34:49.825 the New York Jets, where you look at the roster 0:34:50.384 --> 0:34:53.424 and you say, this is a really talented football team. Yeah, 0:34:53.505 --> 0:34:57.545 they definitely have. I don't know about depth because I 0:34:57.545 --> 0:35:00.145 don't know the team as well as I know the Patriots, 0:35:00.185 --> 0:35:03.904 But in terms of top end talent, you know, Miami's 0:35:03.985 --> 0:35:06.504 high end talent is just as good as anybody. I mean, 0:35:06.545 --> 0:35:09.185 Tyreek and Jalen Waddle is one of the best receiving 0:35:09.265 --> 0:35:12.864 duos in football. The quarterback's pretty good. They have some 0:35:12.945 --> 0:35:16.705 guys on defense, Ramsey, Kalays Campbell, Zack Steeler is a 0:35:16.945 --> 0:35:20.584 very very underrated football player on the interior their defensive line. 0:35:20.665 --> 0:35:22.825 No one of those sneaky good players. So you put 0:35:22.864 --> 0:35:25.225 all this together and you look at the GM and 0:35:25.265 --> 0:35:27.745 you're like, well, it's put together a pretty good roster here. 0:35:27.785 --> 0:35:29.464 But I think the one thing that you stand out 0:35:29.505 --> 0:35:32.145 that stands out to you whenever you watch this this 0:35:32.265 --> 0:35:35.344 Dolphins team is the trenches. Like they especially on the 0:35:35.344 --> 0:35:37.625 offensive side of the ball, when it gets later in 0:35:37.665 --> 0:35:41.464 the year, when it gets colder and opponents get tougher. 0:35:41.185 --> 0:35:42.344 They're not conditioned. 0:35:42.545 --> 0:35:45.665 Yeah, they don't feel like they win in the trenches 0:35:45.825 --> 0:35:49.145 against the good teams. Now that's probably not going to 0:35:49.225 --> 0:35:52.665 apply to the game as much on Sunday, but when 0:35:52.665 --> 0:35:55.945 they play the Buffaloes, the Baltimore is the Kansas City's 0:35:56.185 --> 0:35:59.864 they lean on the Dolphins teams, they lean on them 0:36:00.105 --> 0:36:03.185 and they don't have enough physicality to pull out of it. 0:36:03.465 --> 0:36:05.945 Patriot Vans. If you want to see Toyota's best offers, 0:36:05.985 --> 0:36:09.225 including those not seen on TV, go to buy at 0:36:09.265 --> 0:36:12.625 toyota dot com. It's Toyota's official website for deals from 0:36:12.665 --> 0:36:16.545 the official vehicle of the New England Patriots. Toyota Let's 0:36:16.745 --> 0:36:18.904 Go places a couple of quick ones in before we 0:36:18.985 --> 0:36:23.385 let you go here if uh number one. The biggest 0:36:23.384 --> 0:36:25.864 news that came from practice today for the Patriots was 0:36:25.985 --> 0:36:29.464 Cold Strangers return. Yes, how quickly. Do we expect him 0:36:29.465 --> 0:36:31.145 to be reinserted into the lineup. 0:36:31.545 --> 0:36:34.344 Well, honestly, John, like I didn't think Christian Barber would 0:36:34.344 --> 0:36:35.544 be reinserted a lot. 0:36:35.825 --> 0:36:38.585 How many you got. 0:36:38.945 --> 0:36:43.625 Yeah, So they're going about this maybe a little bit 0:36:43.625 --> 0:36:46.785 differently than the old regime would have than Bill would have. 0:36:47.065 --> 0:36:49.745 I feel like Bill Belichick was really big on stretching 0:36:49.745 --> 0:36:53.465 out that twenty one day window and giving guys time 0:36:53.745 --> 0:36:56.625 to ramp back up. These guys, it seems like they 0:36:56.665 --> 0:36:59.745 feel like ramping up is best in game. You know, 0:36:59.825 --> 0:37:00.665 let's let's get. 0:37:00.665 --> 0:37:02.904 Which to me flies right in the face of the 0:37:03.065 --> 0:37:07.185 entire philosophy around Drake May just about the year. I mean, 0:37:07.425 --> 0:37:08.825 if you want to see what you got, let the 0:37:08.825 --> 0:37:11.344 guy play. Yeah, Oh my god, you just you just 0:37:11.505 --> 0:37:13.745 lit You just lit me up. You just lit me up. 0:37:13.785 --> 0:37:17.904 That's what I'm here to do. We're here to We're 0:37:17.905 --> 0:37:18.504 hearing to talk. 0:37:18.585 --> 0:37:19.265 We're here to talk. 0:37:19.545 --> 0:37:21.864 Yeah, you know, look, I get it. And you know, 0:37:22.864 --> 0:37:24.904 I don't know about Strange if he's going to be 0:37:24.945 --> 0:37:27.865 ready to play on Sunday. I always think it's really 0:37:27.945 --> 0:37:33.065 difficult in terms of trench play to come back because 0:37:33.705 --> 0:37:38.064 you're you're dealing with the position where fundamentals and technique 0:37:38.105 --> 0:37:40.265 is the name of the game. So when you get 0:37:40.265 --> 0:37:43.105 into the trenches, if your pad level is high, if 0:37:43.145 --> 0:37:46.225 your hand placement is off, if your feet aren't right, like, 0:37:46.344 --> 0:37:49.265 you're just gonna be in trouble. And I thought on Sunday, 0:37:49.745 --> 0:37:52.345 as much as great as it was to see Barmore 0:37:52.505 --> 0:37:54.705 back out there, I thought there were a couple of 0:37:54.705 --> 0:37:56.984 instances where his pads were getting up a little bit 0:37:56.985 --> 0:37:59.265 and he was getting moved off the ball, and that 0:37:59.425 --> 0:38:01.825 all comes back to back and drills. 0:38:02.065 --> 0:38:03.665 I was happy to see him back out there. I 0:38:03.745 --> 0:38:07.265 wasn't totally surprised that he wasn't terribly effective. It was 0:38:07.384 --> 0:38:10.024 nice to have his presence out there, if nothing else. 0:38:10.145 --> 0:38:13.344 But now you want to start to see improvements, slow improvement, slow, 0:38:13.344 --> 0:38:16.305 steady improvement. And when Strange gets back out there, you know, 0:38:17.384 --> 0:38:20.585 my biggest deal is you know, Okay, so he's been 0:38:20.625 --> 0:38:23.665 training a little bit at center. That's been fairly well documented. 0:38:23.185 --> 0:38:25.185 Those Yes, we're snapping today, right, So if. 0:38:25.065 --> 0:38:27.745 He was snapping today, do we actually see him line 0:38:27.825 --> 0:38:30.665 up at center? What do they do with Brown the instance, 0:38:31.025 --> 0:38:32.785 or do we see him at guard? And where would 0:38:32.825 --> 0:38:36.225 this team be best served? Right? Now considering the way 0:38:36.265 --> 0:38:39.745 that the offensive line has taken us on this mad, 0:38:39.905 --> 0:38:41.705 mad journey around the globe this year. 0:38:41.864 --> 0:38:45.025 Yeah, they seem to really like Michael Jordan at left guard. 0:38:45.105 --> 0:38:48.345 He's been pretty much there since week one of the season, 0:38:48.344 --> 0:38:51.145 one of the few guys that's been consistently there. But 0:38:51.305 --> 0:38:53.745 that being said, when I watched the film, I see 0:38:53.785 --> 0:38:56.944 him struggling out there quite a bit, especially in the 0:38:57.025 --> 0:39:01.105 run game. Just really doesn't have the upper body power 0:39:01.185 --> 0:39:03.864 and strength to sustain blocks. It's not so much that 0:39:03.985 --> 0:39:08.065 his like initial movements are terrible, but he gets thrown 0:39:08.105 --> 0:39:11.344 off blocks easily right like later on, So you guy 0:39:11.425 --> 0:39:13.545 will pick his gap to run behind him, and then 0:39:13.585 --> 0:39:15.545 he gets three yards down the field and and he 0:39:15.705 --> 0:39:18.825 shed and it's you know stuff. So I look at 0:39:18.864 --> 0:39:21.425 Michael Jordan at left guard and say that that's probably 0:39:21.425 --> 0:39:24.945 the spot that they could use Cole Strange at the most. 0:39:25.505 --> 0:39:28.025 And I would also say that, you know, center in 0:39:28.145 --> 0:39:30.944 this offense, there's a lot of men mental stuff that 0:39:31.025 --> 0:39:35.064 goes into making the line calls and getting the configuration 0:39:35.265 --> 0:39:37.705 correct and the mic points and all that kind of stuff. 0:39:37.745 --> 0:39:40.065 Why I asked the question, would you be putting too 0:39:40.145 --> 0:39:42.624 much on his plate? On his initial time back after 0:39:42.945 --> 0:39:43.745 being out for a year. 0:39:43.825 --> 0:39:46.545 Yeah, I mean, granted, maybe that's what he's been doing 0:39:46.825 --> 0:39:49.145 behind the scenes. And I know girod Meo said today 0:39:49.185 --> 0:39:52.225 that David Andrews has been helping him out with learning 0:39:52.265 --> 0:39:55.265 the intricacies of playing center. And I'm assuming a lot 0:39:55.265 --> 0:39:57.105 of that is mental because he's not been able to 0:39:57.145 --> 0:39:59.904 practice in terms of strange so like it can't be 0:39:59.945 --> 0:40:03.265 physical that David Andrews is helping him, So maybe he 0:40:03.425 --> 0:40:06.584 has a good grasp of that. And you know, Ben 0:40:06.625 --> 0:40:09.345 Brown came in here and in three days was making 0:40:09.344 --> 0:40:12.424 the line calls, you know, against the Houston Texans. So 0:40:12.665 --> 0:40:15.225 with a rookie quarterback and his first ever start, So 0:40:15.265 --> 0:40:17.025 maybe we're making too big of a deal out of that. 0:40:17.625 --> 0:40:19.545 I'll allow for that. But at the same time, I 0:40:19.864 --> 0:40:23.265 don't think Ben Brown has been a liability. No, it 0:40:23.305 --> 0:40:24.344 hasn't been great. 0:40:24.185 --> 0:40:26.384 Considering where you got him, you know, and you picked 0:40:26.465 --> 0:40:28.465 him up it was you know, it wasn't quite a 0:40:28.505 --> 0:40:31.464 street free agent, but he was damn close. Yeah, I 0:40:31.465 --> 0:40:32.665 think he's done remarkable. 0:40:32.745 --> 0:40:35.384 Yeah, I would say he's for the most part, has 0:40:35.425 --> 0:40:39.065 been passable. He has been functional, sure, So I wouldn't 0:40:39.105 --> 0:40:41.064 necessarily mess with that too much. 0:40:41.185 --> 0:40:43.305 No, I'm kind of on that line as well. And 0:40:43.344 --> 0:40:45.585 I know that there's a you know, a certain faction 0:40:45.665 --> 0:40:47.625 of people that are already out there talking about, you know, 0:40:47.905 --> 0:40:50.225 what you're gonna do when free agency comes around, what 0:40:50.265 --> 0:40:52.665 you might do when the draft comes around. I was 0:40:52.705 --> 0:40:55.825 looking at x earlier today and there's a lot of 0:40:56.145 --> 0:41:00.145 chatter about T Higgins and you know, potential wide receivers 0:41:00.145 --> 0:41:02.225 in the free agent market. And look, I don't really 0:41:02.265 --> 0:41:04.265 want to get too much. I'm kind of like Fred 0:41:04.265 --> 0:41:07.705 in this regard. Okay, next year's next year. We're still 0:41:07.705 --> 0:41:09.864 in this year, and you say, I worry about developing 0:41:09.864 --> 0:41:14.424 who you have here, but oh do we is it 0:41:14.505 --> 0:41:16.785 worth keeping an eye toward it? I mean, do you 0:41:16.905 --> 0:41:19.505 send signals? I mean, what do you do here to 0:41:19.585 --> 0:41:22.864 make sure that you're not caught flat footed? Because that's 0:41:22.905 --> 0:41:28.305 my biggest fear with player personnel within New England. And 0:41:28.384 --> 0:41:30.265 until we fix this problem, until we fix it we 0:41:30.305 --> 0:41:32.105 see Elliott Wolf can do it, I'm going to have 0:41:32.145 --> 0:41:34.625 this doubt in my head. I want to know that 0:41:34.864 --> 0:41:37.825 you know, they're doing the right things in order to basically, 0:41:38.305 --> 0:41:40.665 you know, smooth the runway out for someone to come 0:41:40.705 --> 0:41:42.984 in this way and catch passes from Drake May. 0:41:43.185 --> 0:41:45.785 Yeah, I hear you. I think the biggest thing that 0:41:45.825 --> 0:41:47.625 they could do, and I'm not trying to, you know, 0:41:48.065 --> 0:41:49.665 cop out here, but I think the biggest thing that 0:41:49.705 --> 0:41:52.225 they can do is keep Drake playing well like this 0:41:52.864 --> 0:41:54.424 because they. 0:41:54.384 --> 0:41:56.985 Have That's not a cop out, No, that's a good answer. 0:41:57.425 --> 0:42:00.025 They have to attract the free agents, right and the 0:42:00.065 --> 0:42:02.785 best way to attract the t Higgins are to attract 0:42:02.785 --> 0:42:06.105 the Amari Cooper or whoever the receiver that they're going 0:42:06.145 --> 0:42:08.545 after is. And I mentioned Cooper just because of his 0:42:09.145 --> 0:42:11.904 time with the Browns and in this system and with 0:42:11.985 --> 0:42:15.665 this coaching staff in Cleveland. So you know, these guys 0:42:15.665 --> 0:42:18.225 that are gonna be free agents, you need to show 0:42:18.265 --> 0:42:20.825 them that Drake May is the real deal and they 0:42:20.864 --> 0:42:23.225 have a quarterback to come here and play with. Because 0:42:23.505 --> 0:42:25.785 the reason in my mind that Calvin Ridley is not 0:42:25.825 --> 0:42:28.225 a Patriot is because the Patriots didn't have a quarterback. 0:42:28.505 --> 0:42:31.305 And he's thinking, and I understand Will Levis is not 0:42:31.305 --> 0:42:34.384 good either, but he's thinking, I'm a receiver, you know, 0:42:34.825 --> 0:42:36.785 I need to have a quarterback that can get me 0:42:36.864 --> 0:42:39.745 the football. I don't even know who's going to be 0:42:39.745 --> 0:42:42.024 throwing the football to me in New England. So if 0:42:42.025 --> 0:42:45.305 the money's equal, I'm gonna go someplace else. And that's 0:42:45.384 --> 0:42:47.625 ultimately what it ended up happening. Brandon a Yuk had 0:42:47.665 --> 0:42:51.225 no desire to come here because the Patriots weren't an attraction. 0:42:51.505 --> 0:42:54.624 They weren't a draw. So if you keep Drake May 0:42:54.905 --> 0:42:57.745 playing the way that he is playing, people are gonna 0:42:57.745 --> 0:42:59.785 want to come and play with that player. You know, 0:42:59.905 --> 0:43:03.265 maybe not more than Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes or 0:43:03.305 --> 0:43:06.025 Lamar Jackson, but when you get into the dregs of 0:43:06.065 --> 0:43:08.745 the league, like you're gonna have the quarterback and these 0:43:08.785 --> 0:43:11.944 other teams might not necessarily have that. So I think that, 0:43:12.225 --> 0:43:15.384 you know, there's a lot of talk about what's to 0:43:15.384 --> 0:43:17.665 come in the offseason. There's a lot of talk about 0:43:17.665 --> 0:43:20.265 this coaching staff and if they're going to stay the 0:43:20.344 --> 0:43:22.625 course with this coaching staff or if there are gonna 0:43:22.625 --> 0:43:26.384 be changes. The one guy that I really feel, I 0:43:26.545 --> 0:43:31.065 continually feel strongly about even more so, is is retaining 0:43:31.105 --> 0:43:33.984 Alex van Pelt. I think Alex van Pel's doing a 0:43:34.105 --> 0:43:35.625 really fine job with Drake May. 0:43:35.985 --> 0:43:38.265 I'm not going to argue with that point. Yeah, you know, 0:43:38.505 --> 0:43:41.145 I've known Alex for a long time, number of years, 0:43:41.545 --> 0:43:45.705 and in this regard, he deserves an opportunity to continue 0:43:45.745 --> 0:43:50.185 working with Drake number one, developing his play skills. Number 0:43:50.185 --> 0:43:54.424 two and then probably two A getting more talent in here. 0:43:54.585 --> 0:43:54.905 Yeah. 0:43:54.945 --> 0:43:57.225 Man, then we can see what he truly is capable 0:43:57.225 --> 0:43:59.145 of doing. Because I think we all know they've been 0:43:59.185 --> 0:44:01.585 told the best way to go about it right now 0:44:01.665 --> 0:44:03.145 is to play this a little bit more close to 0:44:03.185 --> 0:44:06.065 the vest because we extend ourselves, we're really going to pratfall. 0:44:06.145 --> 0:44:07.545 But now what we want to do is try to 0:44:07.625 --> 0:44:10.825 build toward a certain level. We've seen that from day one. 0:44:11.105 --> 0:44:13.585 Whether we agree or not with the whole Drake may philosophy, 0:44:13.625 --> 0:44:16.424 the point is is that he's playing now, he's showing well, 0:44:16.545 --> 0:44:19.785 we're getting you know, bonnets and kudos thrown his way 0:44:19.825 --> 0:44:22.665 from you know, analysts all over the NFL, so that 0:44:23.185 --> 0:44:27.065 buzz is starting to catch hold. And I'm one hundred 0:44:27.065 --> 0:44:29.944 and ten percent in this corner. Yeah, do whatever you 0:44:29.945 --> 0:44:33.225 can to keep him playing well. Right that what you 0:44:33.384 --> 0:44:36.105 can score like you need to score in the offseason. 0:44:36.305 --> 0:44:40.985 It's just a huge it's a huge developmental time for 0:44:41.145 --> 0:44:43.584 Drake made from going from year one to year two 0:44:44.105 --> 0:44:47.905 in the NFL, and one of the myriad of mistakes 0:44:47.905 --> 0:44:51.225 that they made with mac Jones was Josh McDaniels goes 0:44:51.265 --> 0:44:54.505 to the Raiders after Max's rookie year and Matt Patricia's 0:44:54.585 --> 0:44:57.625 name the offensive play caller his second season, and that 0:44:57.825 --> 0:44:59.985 was really the beginning of the end for mac Jones 0:44:59.985 --> 0:45:03.185 in New England. And Drake's way more talented than Mac. Like, 0:45:03.225 --> 0:45:05.625 I'm not trying to make a comparison player to player, 0:45:05.705 --> 0:45:10.145 but right now AVP has Drake May playing great ball. 0:45:10.185 --> 0:45:12.105 He has him tied together, you know, is what I 0:45:12.145 --> 0:45:16.025 would call it eyes and mechanically, like he's going to 0:45:16.105 --> 0:45:19.064 right places with the football. He's playing on schedule, he's 0:45:19.105 --> 0:45:23.025 playing in rhythm. His feet looked great, which was obviously 0:45:23.265 --> 0:45:25.745 a big thing in the draft was his footwork and 0:45:25.785 --> 0:45:28.625 his mechanics. And right now he looks like he is 0:45:28.705 --> 0:45:33.025 tethered together the offensive coordinator. And if you start pulling 0:45:33.065 --> 0:45:36.944 things out of that Jenga tower, you're just asking for 0:45:37.065 --> 0:45:40.305 things to regress, right You're asking for the unc footwork 0:45:40.344 --> 0:45:43.464 to come back. You're asking for him to stop, you know, 0:45:43.585 --> 0:45:46.864 seeing blitzes and reading field correctly and all these things 0:45:46.905 --> 0:45:49.145 that we see him doing right now at a high level. 0:45:49.985 --> 0:45:52.985 I would stay the course with the offensive staff for 0:45:53.065 --> 0:45:55.904 right now. I would say Van Pelt is somebody that 0:45:56.185 --> 0:45:58.504 I think has done a really great job. I also 0:45:58.585 --> 0:46:02.185 wouldn't lose sight of their quarterbacks coach T. C. McCartney 0:46:02.625 --> 0:46:05.185 to today Tom Pellasaro named as an up and coming 0:46:05.225 --> 0:46:07.585 coach in the NFL on the offensive side of the ball. 0:46:07.465 --> 0:46:10.424 And as a potential replacement someone down the line if 0:46:10.465 --> 0:46:13.024 the dominoes fall the right way when Black Monday gets here. 0:46:13.545 --> 0:46:15.705 I just think that TC is someone that I'm going 0:46:15.785 --> 0:46:18.785 to try to do some more reporting on because he's 0:46:18.825 --> 0:46:22.944 someone that I think is close in age to Drake 0:46:23.105 --> 0:46:26.585 enough and has played quarterback himself, not at the pro level, 0:46:26.625 --> 0:46:31.024 but in college, and is clearly you know, every time 0:46:31.105 --> 0:46:34.465 that that may has asked about the coaching, he obviously 0:46:34.465 --> 0:46:37.225 talks a lot about a VP, but he's always is 0:46:37.344 --> 0:46:41.424 careful to mention TC McCartney as well. So I think 0:46:41.465 --> 0:46:43.265 there's a lot of good things going on in that 0:46:43.384 --> 0:46:44.424 quarterback room right now. 0:46:44.505 --> 0:46:46.864 I really like the analogy of likening the Patriots to 0:46:46.905 --> 0:46:47.865 a Jenga tower. 0:46:48.145 --> 0:46:51.464 Yes, so I'm big on this analogy, and I can't 0:46:51.505 --> 0:46:53.505 do do you know Dave Damashek with the NFL network. 0:46:53.545 --> 0:46:55.825 I know, yeah, I can't. I can't take claim. But 0:46:55.945 --> 0:46:59.145 David is the original Jenga tower guy, and I loved 0:46:59.185 --> 0:47:01.065 it since the day that I heard it where he 0:47:01.185 --> 0:47:03.864 usually talks about it with players. Yeah, so, like, you know, 0:47:04.105 --> 0:47:07.225 think of the Jenga tower like Juwan Bentley gets pulled 0:47:07.265 --> 0:47:10.305 out and then Christian Barmore gets pulled out, and you. 0:47:10.265 --> 0:47:13.024 Know, and you're pretty soft in the middle. Ye yeah, yeah, 0:47:13.945 --> 0:47:18.585 it's it's wobbly. It's a really good analogy. I keep 0:47:18.665 --> 0:47:20.705 thinking of that. What is that the Popeye's Chicken commercial 0:47:20.705 --> 0:47:23.185 where the guy's pulling out you know, the Jenga pieces 0:47:23.225 --> 0:47:25.344 one by one until someone puts that big you know, 0:47:25.905 --> 0:47:28.344 chicken wing or whatever in this stase and just it's 0:47:28.384 --> 0:47:30.505 all gone. That's what I see when I think of that. 0:47:30.625 --> 0:47:33.185 So yeah, I'm gonna actually I like Jagga Jinga's fun. 0:47:33.305 --> 0:47:33.904 It's a fun game. 0:47:33.985 --> 0:47:34.384 Yeah it is. 0:47:34.585 --> 0:47:35.705 What do you think, Marie Jenga? 0:47:36.344 --> 0:47:37.025 You do Jinga? 0:47:37.185 --> 0:47:39.345 Yeah? 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Russell Baxter will join 0:48:59.864 --> 0:49:02.025 us at the top of the hour, and so now 0:49:02.065 --> 0:49:04.665 we've got some time for you. And so because of that, 0:49:04.945 --> 0:49:07.864 it looks like Patty's been hanging in. He's got a 0:49:07.945 --> 0:49:11.025 little time on everybody else here. So Patty and aguam 0:49:11.145 --> 0:49:12.625 you're up next. Thanks for hanging in. Bro. 0:49:14.145 --> 0:49:16.745 What's going on? Mister legend to steal a phrase from 0:49:16.825 --> 0:49:17.904 Eldred going on? 0:49:18.945 --> 0:49:22.745 You know, whenever he says that, I laugh internally. You know, 0:49:22.905 --> 0:49:25.585 I've always thought, well, I'm a legend in my own mind, right, 0:49:25.705 --> 0:49:28.705 just somewhat kiddingly. But when when when Eldred says that, 0:49:28.905 --> 0:49:31.464 I got to admit, actually, it actually feels like there's 0:49:31.505 --> 0:49:34.745 some authority behind it. You know, moves a little bit, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:49:34.864 --> 0:49:41.505 you know, the needle moves. Shut up Marine, Oh no, 0:49:41.705 --> 0:49:43.945 it's all right, it's all good. It's all good. I 0:49:44.105 --> 0:49:45.785 love talking to you guys. You guys are the best. 0:49:47.945 --> 0:49:51.105 So I just wanted to throw something out there. About 0:49:51.145 --> 0:49:54.425 the Hall of Fame and a prediction. 0:49:54.625 --> 0:49:56.305 Yeah, you know, I was going to ask Evian about that, 0:49:56.384 --> 0:49:58.904 but I but we we got actually talking into uh, 0:49:58.985 --> 0:50:01.504 you know, football stuff. But we should mention of course 0:50:01.585 --> 0:50:04.825 that uh. The final well, the semi finalists for the 0:50:05.344 --> 0:50:08.345 twenty twenty five Class of the Hall of Fame includes 0:50:08.425 --> 0:50:12.904 three significant Patriot names, uh not, the least of which 0:50:13.025 --> 0:50:17.825 are well Rodney Harrison, Adam Vinteri and oh crap, who's 0:50:17.864 --> 0:50:22.025 the third one? Thank you, Vince? How can I forget? 0:50:22.185 --> 0:50:24.984 Holy smokes? Yeah, those are the three guys on the list. 0:50:25.065 --> 0:50:27.225 Now they'll they'll boil it down to the finalists I 0:50:27.265 --> 0:50:30.504 think in another month, I think it is, and then 0:50:30.545 --> 0:50:32.665 of course the class is probably going to be somewhere 0:50:32.705 --> 0:50:38.505 around four or five. I'm gonna be stunned, stunned, Patty 0:50:38.625 --> 0:50:40.505 if one of those guys didn't get in, and frankly, 0:50:40.945 --> 0:50:44.665 they all three deserve it. I just I would hope 0:50:44.705 --> 0:50:47.424 for two to get in. And here's my thing. The 0:50:47.545 --> 0:50:51.384 Patriots run of dominance, you know, since two thousand and 0:50:51.545 --> 0:50:55.625 one has is significant to the point where they have 0:50:55.785 --> 0:50:58.665 been underserved. It took I think the Steelers of the 0:50:58.785 --> 0:51:00.985 seventies and the even the Niners of the eighties a 0:51:01.065 --> 0:51:03.305 few years to you know, to really you know, get 0:51:03.344 --> 0:51:06.185 their due. But the Patriots are still owed. I think, 0:51:06.265 --> 0:51:08.665 you know, some representation in the Hall of Fame based 0:51:08.705 --> 0:51:11.025 on their their two decade run. And I know that 0:51:11.145 --> 0:51:16.585 there's a significant factor of media as well as you know, potential, 0:51:17.945 --> 0:51:20.585 you know, ownership, you know tied to you know, NFL ownership, 0:51:22.105 --> 0:51:26.465 and other teams that still are butt hurt over you know, 0:51:26.985 --> 0:51:30.065 things like Spygate and Flakegate for lack of a better phrase, 0:51:30.705 --> 0:51:33.104 And and all I'm going to tell you is is that, look, 0:51:33.905 --> 0:51:36.385 forget all that stuff. If you are a fan of Buffalo, 0:51:36.545 --> 0:51:38.464 or you are a fan of Kansas City, or let's say, 0:51:38.545 --> 0:51:40.904 let's be even worse, let's let's go step further. You're 0:51:40.905 --> 0:51:43.145 a fan of the Eagles, who the Patriots beat, you know, 0:51:43.225 --> 0:51:46.465 the first time around, or the Panthers or the Rams. 0:51:47.025 --> 0:51:48.985 You know, you know, because we've known for years that 0:51:49.305 --> 0:51:51.665 you know, there there was a lot of hurt feelings 0:51:51.705 --> 0:51:55.624 over you know that you know over that that era. Look, 0:51:55.945 --> 0:51:59.145 if you can't tell with your own eyeballs that these 0:51:59.305 --> 0:52:03.145 guys are Hall of Fame worthy, then I would question 0:52:03.745 --> 0:52:10.024 severely your ability to judge good football, because these guys 0:52:10.105 --> 0:52:12.424 are you know, they you know, you go back to 0:52:12.505 --> 0:52:14.904 Rodney Harris's days, you know, playing for the Chages. You know, 0:52:15.905 --> 0:52:18.185 Vince Wilfork, I mean, my goodness, he still had some 0:52:18.305 --> 0:52:20.105 life left in his legs when he went on to 0:52:20.145 --> 0:52:22.344 play in Houston, you know. And Adam Ben and Terry 0:52:22.625 --> 0:52:25.384 good Lord, he said all kinds of you know, longevity 0:52:25.465 --> 0:52:27.545 records after he left New England to go kick for 0:52:27.585 --> 0:52:31.665 the Colts. So those guys are Hall of famers, every 0:52:31.785 --> 0:52:35.185 one of them. Based on they're the x's and o's. 0:52:35.585 --> 0:52:39.145 Based on the numbers alone, they all three deserve to 0:52:39.225 --> 0:52:41.025 be in. I just don't think we'll see a Patriot 0:52:41.105 --> 0:52:43.825 dominated class and all of them getting in at the 0:52:43.864 --> 0:52:46.425 same time, just because there just aren't that many slots 0:52:46.465 --> 0:52:48.945 that will end up getting voted upon. But I'm hopeful 0:52:48.985 --> 0:52:51.705 that at least one of them is somewhat, you know, 0:52:52.065 --> 0:52:55.464 duly rewarded for their long, successful careers here. 0:52:57.065 --> 0:52:58.864 Yeah, and I kind of have a hot take on 0:52:58.945 --> 0:53:01.505 that too, go I would not be I would not 0:53:01.625 --> 0:53:04.505 be shocked if Adam doesn't get in on first ballot, even. 0:53:04.384 --> 0:53:06.544 Though I think he deserves it because he's a kicker. 0:53:06.665 --> 0:53:08.904 A little bit wary about voters, yeah, voting for a 0:53:08.985 --> 0:53:10.344 kicker to get in the first time. 0:53:11.225 --> 0:53:14.345 Well, and I would tend to agree with you, Patty, 0:53:15.545 --> 0:53:18.945 And I think this is where if anybody is deserving 0:53:19.145 --> 0:53:23.825 of breaking that mold, it is adam minitary most definitely. 0:53:24.625 --> 0:53:27.105 And not to sound like a broken record, like I 0:53:27.225 --> 0:53:30.065 want to see Vince get in eventually, but just put 0:53:30.265 --> 0:53:31.424 Rodney and I mean he. 0:53:33.265 --> 0:53:35.305 Yeah, there's Ed Reid, and. 0:53:35.344 --> 0:53:39.145 Then there was like yeah, alamlu yeah Rodney Harrison, and 0:53:39.225 --> 0:53:42.185 then a tier below that. Like I've always said, like Briandkins, 0:53:42.225 --> 0:53:45.145 I'm sorry he's not as good as as Rodney Harrison 0:53:45.505 --> 0:53:47.265 made me the one big play in a big game 0:53:47.344 --> 0:53:50.344 that he made you can't because he never made it. 0:53:52.145 --> 0:53:54.785 But just real quickly to my prediction for this week, 0:53:55.145 --> 0:53:56.424 because like I said, don't want to get up so 0:53:56.545 --> 0:53:59.384 other guys can get on the line. I really want 0:53:59.425 --> 0:54:02.504 to see our team just do it this week in Miami, John, 0:54:02.665 --> 0:54:06.464 I want to see may And and Mayo get up, 0:54:06.585 --> 0:54:08.505 you know, get their first win against it. 0:54:08.785 --> 0:54:11.545 You know, I know, I know, Daddy, I loved, I 0:54:11.745 --> 0:54:15.345 love your eternal optimism, but it's just it's it's woefully 0:54:15.465 --> 0:54:16.624 misguided on these guys. 0:54:18.505 --> 0:54:20.145 Yeah, I think it's going to be a close game, 0:54:20.185 --> 0:54:22.545 though I do have I think the Dolphins will probably 0:54:22.585 --> 0:54:25.065 win somewhere around like twenty four to twenty one or 0:54:25.225 --> 0:54:28.225 twenty eight to twenty four, something like that. But man, 0:54:28.305 --> 0:54:31.625 I just I just I can't stand the Dolphins the 0:54:31.985 --> 0:54:34.145 Yankees of the NFL. They always have that. 0:54:34.425 --> 0:54:37.344 Yeah, I know, you know, I totally I agree with that, 0:54:37.505 --> 0:54:39.025 you know. And the funny thing it is is that 0:54:39.065 --> 0:54:40.745 I was thinking of this last week is I'm watching 0:54:40.785 --> 0:54:44.185 Buffalo beating Kansas City. I'm thinking, man, Bills fans got 0:54:44.305 --> 0:54:45.745 to be looking at the rest of the AFC East 0:54:45.785 --> 0:54:48.225 and laughing their asses off. You know, it's like, you know, what, 0:54:48.344 --> 0:54:51.225 what does the AFC East become? They're dominating kind of 0:54:51.265 --> 0:54:54.585 like the Patriots did a decade ago, and kudos to 0:54:54.625 --> 0:54:56.585 the to the Bills for turning it around after you know, 0:54:56.625 --> 0:54:59.225 it's kind of stumbling out of the gate and the 0:54:59.344 --> 0:55:02.904 subject for another day. Look, I kind of you know, 0:55:04.225 --> 0:55:06.904 I think the magic number here is is twenty. If 0:55:06.945 --> 0:55:10.105 the Patriots can get to twenty, they're in the game. 0:55:10.145 --> 0:55:12.464 They got a chance to steal it. But if they 0:55:12.505 --> 0:55:16.065 don't get there, the Dolphins are gonna roll. You have 0:55:16.265 --> 0:55:20.065 to figure out a way defensively to hold the Dolphins 0:55:20.864 --> 0:55:24.064 between seventeen to twenty points max. To have a chance. 0:55:24.384 --> 0:55:27.544 If you let the Dolphins get to twenty two, twenty three, 0:55:27.785 --> 0:55:31.785 twenty four, you're not winning that game. You're just not Patriots, 0:55:31.825 --> 0:55:34.625 and Patriots are not explosive enough on offense right now. 0:55:35.065 --> 0:55:37.225 So the only way you can do that is you've 0:55:37.225 --> 0:55:39.785 got to get some takeaways. You probably got to get 0:55:39.785 --> 0:55:42.145 a cheap score somehow, either on a short field after 0:55:42.145 --> 0:55:44.464 a takeaway or a pick six or a block kick, 0:55:44.625 --> 0:55:46.745 or you got to come up with something different. It's 0:55:46.825 --> 0:55:50.625 gonna take more than just doing your job. Oh goodness, 0:55:50.665 --> 0:55:52.864 I'm sorry, but you know that kind of has stuck 0:55:52.905 --> 0:55:54.864 on our tongue around here. You got to do more 0:55:54.905 --> 0:55:57.225 than just the basics to win a game on the 0:55:57.305 --> 0:55:59.665 road and get off the schneid in South Florida. 0:56:01.384 --> 0:56:05.025 Yeah, and they're not generating pass rush against good teams. 0:56:05.105 --> 0:56:07.545 They're not slowing down the running game against good teams. 0:56:07.585 --> 0:56:10.265 And it's been five games John since they since they 0:56:10.344 --> 0:56:11.305 garnered a turnover. 0:56:11.344 --> 0:56:13.265 It yeah, anybody, Yeah, and it's. 0:56:13.105 --> 0:56:16.265 Got a change, and like eventually the worm's gonna turn 0:56:16.785 --> 0:56:19.225 I hope it's this week, but I'm not banking on it. 0:56:19.265 --> 0:56:21.265 But buck it off the line. It's always good talking 0:56:21.265 --> 0:56:22.625 to you, Johnny. I'll talk to you next week. 0:56:22.864 --> 0:56:25.305 I appreciate you, Taddy, Patty, thank you for the phone call. 0:56:25.665 --> 0:56:27.545 I just I wish I was a little more confident 0:56:27.545 --> 0:56:29.864 about that. And I'm not being anti New England or 0:56:29.864 --> 0:56:32.384 anti Patriot or you know, you're not waving the pomp 0:56:32.425 --> 0:56:34.505 ponds or whatever you want you to do. I'm not 0:56:34.585 --> 0:56:37.305 doing that here. I'm just being real. You know this 0:56:37.425 --> 0:56:39.584 team has got flaws. We know this. This is week 0:56:39.665 --> 0:56:42.904 twelve in the NFL. You're three and eight, okay, so 0:56:43.384 --> 0:56:45.425 you are what your record says you are. I believe 0:56:46.545 --> 0:56:52.504 one William Parcells said that years ago, and this team 0:56:52.905 --> 0:56:55.665 is improving. I think at times we can see that improvement. 0:56:56.065 --> 0:56:58.385 I thought, as I mentioned with Evan a little bit earlier, 0:56:58.465 --> 0:57:00.025 that they took a bit of a step back this 0:57:00.185 --> 0:57:02.825 last week because I didn't see the kind of adjustments 0:57:02.864 --> 0:57:07.185 that I think a high caliber NFL team needs to 0:57:07.384 --> 0:57:10.745 make in order to be successful against a high powered 0:57:10.864 --> 0:57:13.384 offense like the Rams have. I didn't see that kind 0:57:13.425 --> 0:57:17.905 of adjustment. I thought that the game plan, regardless of 0:57:17.985 --> 0:57:21.465 what Evan was talking about. You know why it's difficult 0:57:21.825 --> 0:57:24.585 to guard the Rams in man demand because of the 0:57:24.625 --> 0:57:27.385 way they run the bunch roots and they set screens 0:57:27.425 --> 0:57:31.745 and picks and things like that. Regardless that there's a 0:57:31.825 --> 0:57:33.705 way to beat that offense. There's a reason why the 0:57:33.825 --> 0:57:37.305 Rams are a five hundred team, okay, and you didn't 0:57:37.345 --> 0:57:40.105 attack it well enough. And that's really the bottom line. 0:57:40.785 --> 0:57:44.665 And then you're gonna remember the Rams were three and 0:57:44.705 --> 0:57:46.665 out what two of the first three possessions something like that, 0:57:46.825 --> 0:57:49.265 and then they ripped off what four straight touchdowns, And 0:57:49.345 --> 0:57:54.025 I'm just like, where's the adjustment? They clearly made adjustments. 0:57:54.385 --> 0:57:57.305 Where are yours? And that's what I failed to see 0:57:57.345 --> 0:57:59.465 from this team. So when you go up against the 0:57:59.465 --> 0:58:02.105 Mike McDaniel team this week, who we all know right 0:58:02.185 --> 0:58:06.065 now is coaching circles, dancing circles around the Patriots to 0:58:06.225 --> 0:58:09.705 a tango via aloa dancing circles around the Patriots. Whether 0:58:09.745 --> 0:58:12.665 he's got up you know, you know, a toboggan that's 0:58:12.665 --> 0:58:14.705 screwed on straight or not. And I'm trying to I'm 0:58:14.745 --> 0:58:16.305 not really trying to make fun of that. I'm just 0:58:16.385 --> 0:58:19.585 being graphic, I guess because he's had his you know, 0:58:20.465 --> 0:58:25.225 concussion issues, but regardless of those, he owns the Patriots. 0:58:25.865 --> 0:58:28.825 What are you gonna do to stop him? You've got 0:58:28.905 --> 0:58:31.585 to go above and beyond what you've done in the past. 0:58:31.785 --> 0:58:34.265 You got to throw him something that he hasn't seen. 0:58:35.185 --> 0:58:37.825 You're gonna run something hasn't seen. You gotta do something 0:58:37.825 --> 0:58:43.465 of the dolphins that make McDaniel is not expecting and 0:58:43.545 --> 0:58:47.665 we're not seeing that. We're not seeing that. If we 0:58:47.825 --> 0:58:51.385 see that, I might feel differently. But you know, as 0:58:52.945 --> 0:58:57.064 Eldred says, you got to show me first, right, isn't 0:58:57.065 --> 0:59:00.945 that right, Eldred? You got to show me first, right, 0:59:00.985 --> 0:59:01.585 mister Legend. 0:59:01.745 --> 0:59:02.545 How are you doing today? 0:59:03.825 --> 0:59:04.545 I love you, buddy. 0:59:04.625 --> 0:59:07.265 How are you love you too? Man? I'm doing pretty good. 0:59:07.345 --> 0:59:09.145 I'm off the rest of the week. 0:59:09.505 --> 0:59:10.665 Couldn't take next. 0:59:10.545 --> 0:59:12.225 Week off because the Thanksgiving I had to take this 0:59:12.305 --> 0:59:13.545 week off, right, So, so. 0:59:13.705 --> 0:59:15.225 Are you working on Thanksgiving week? 0:59:16.865 --> 0:59:18.625 I gotta work. Do you want us to work on 0:59:18.745 --> 0:59:20.785 Thanksgiving Day? But I ain't doing it. He did it 0:59:20.865 --> 0:59:22.785 in fifteen U John ain't about to do it now. 0:59:22.985 --> 0:59:26.425 Yeah? Yeah, Oh, don't don't feel don't feel sorry for me. 0:59:26.505 --> 0:59:31.185 I have to work next week too. But it'll be uh, yeah, 0:59:31.385 --> 0:59:34.065 I know, Matt. You want to tell him, Matt, you 0:59:34.105 --> 0:59:35.945 want to say he's working in the Bahamas elder. Don't 0:59:35.985 --> 0:59:36.265 let him. 0:59:36.425 --> 0:59:40.425 Don't let them fool you Bahamas. Yeah, hey, are you 0:59:40.465 --> 0:59:44.865 gonna change Simon? I go down there on the beach, 0:59:44.945 --> 0:59:46.505 your step, He'll be right there with him. 0:59:46.585 --> 0:59:48.865 Yeah, I know, right, I know, I know. Now the 0:59:49.745 --> 0:59:52.545 basketball tournament to the college basketball tournament called the Battle 0:59:52.585 --> 0:59:56.185 for Atlantis. I'll be covering that next week. So pretty 0:59:56.185 --> 0:59:58.465 good assignment, pretty choice assignment over the holiday. 0:59:59.585 --> 1:00:01.665 Oh yeah, you gonna have you uh what do you 1:00:01.825 --> 1:00:06.705 see your Bahama Mamas and everything? Listen, I'll have me 1:00:06.745 --> 1:00:07.865 a glas of heitt. 1:00:12.065 --> 1:00:16.505 That's exactly right, That's exactly right. So yeah, so yeah, 1:00:16.545 --> 1:00:18.305 it looks like we both might be working a little bit. 1:00:18.425 --> 1:00:20.225 But you know, if if you, you know, if you 1:00:20.305 --> 1:00:22.905 decide that's it, I'm not gonna do it, then by 1:00:22.945 --> 1:00:24.425 all means, I think you've earned that, right. 1:00:25.785 --> 1:00:27.905 Yeah, So I'm not working thanks I worked to day after. 1:00:27.985 --> 1:00:30.065 I have to do that one, but I'm not working Thanksgiving. 1:00:30.425 --> 1:00:33.705 You in a union job? Are you in a union? Okay? 1:00:33.825 --> 1:00:35.225 All right, I was going to say, you do you 1:00:35.305 --> 1:00:37.425 tell your well I was going to say, you just 1:00:37.505 --> 1:00:39.425 you can tell your you know, your shop Steward, you know, 1:00:39.745 --> 1:00:42.625 to talk to me. I'm gonna excuse you. But that's okay, So. 1:00:45.265 --> 1:00:48.625 All right, but I'm hoping that Rodney get in. Matter 1:00:48.665 --> 1:00:50.065 of fact, I wish all three of them get in 1:00:50.145 --> 1:00:50.745 the same time. 1:00:51.905 --> 1:00:54.544 I'm holding out. I'm holding out hope that you know, look, 1:00:54.585 --> 1:00:56.505 if you if you look at those three guys, based 1:00:56.545 --> 1:00:59.665 on their football talent alone and what they've accomplished, you know, 1:00:59.705 --> 1:01:02.425 over the last couple of decades, Yeah, they're all worthy. 1:01:02.545 --> 1:01:05.465 They absolutely are. I just don't think they're gonna Super 1:01:05.505 --> 1:01:08.105 Bowl win, yes, yes, And that that was part of 1:01:08.145 --> 1:01:09.945 the reason why I brought that up, because I'm like, 1:01:10.305 --> 1:01:12.425 you know, I don't think that you know, the Super 1:01:12.505 --> 1:01:15.065 the first Super Bowl era Patriot teams have gotten enough 1:01:15.185 --> 1:01:19.625 do I just don't. And no, And so yeah, that's 1:01:19.665 --> 1:01:22.105 the one that started it all. So uh, I think 1:01:22.145 --> 1:01:25.025 it's time for you know, the voters and and and 1:01:25.225 --> 1:01:27.945 the people on the Hall of Fame committee to recognize, 1:01:28.385 --> 1:01:32.785 you know, the beginning of arguably maybe even in arguably 1:01:32.865 --> 1:01:35.785 the best, the biggest dynasty ever in NFL history. 1:01:37.065 --> 1:01:39.544 I think this year too, you know, and just brent 1:01:39.625 --> 1:01:42.225 them guys in there, so them writers, Thurn Buffalo and 1:01:42.265 --> 1:01:43.025 all the other guys. 1:01:43.105 --> 1:01:45.905 Oh you know that, you know that they will absolutely 1:01:45.985 --> 1:01:47.785 do anything they can to shove it right up the 1:01:47.825 --> 1:01:52.065 wazoo of the Patriots. And that's unfortunate. That's unfortunate. You know, 1:01:52.185 --> 1:01:54.305 you need to have people that are are are more 1:01:54.385 --> 1:01:57.025 interested in the sport and what the Hall of Fame 1:01:57.385 --> 1:02:00.945 actually means. The Hall of Fame is it's supposed to 1:02:01.065 --> 1:02:04.385 stand for talent and ability and and and whatever else 1:02:04.425 --> 1:02:06.665 the NFL wants to stand for. Is not supposed to 1:02:06.745 --> 1:02:10.265 stand because well, you guys cheated, you know, to you know, 1:02:10.385 --> 1:02:12.465 to beat us so many years ago. That's not what 1:02:12.745 --> 1:02:15.425 That's not what happened, number one. But that's still the 1:02:16.465 --> 1:02:19.425 that that's the that's the hangover, Yes, that's the hangover 1:02:19.545 --> 1:02:20.145 from everything that. 1:02:21.705 --> 1:02:22.225 Day here too. 1:02:22.385 --> 1:02:25.544 Yeah, I know, but I would tell you, I would 1:02:25.545 --> 1:02:27.825 tell you also, elder that somebody who says that is 1:02:27.945 --> 1:02:30.785 just ignorant and they don't want to and they don't 1:02:30.825 --> 1:02:33.225 want to know the truth because this is an easy 1:02:33.465 --> 1:02:35.785 argument for for them to make. You know, we say, 1:02:35.825 --> 1:02:37.425 well we beat in the super Bowl, and they turn around, 1:02:37.465 --> 1:02:39.585 they looking and say, well, you cheated. I'm like, well, 1:02:39.825 --> 1:02:42.625 you're not very smart because you don't know. I don't 1:02:42.665 --> 1:02:44.745 care you cheated, you know. And I get that argument 1:02:44.745 --> 1:02:47.065 all the time. It's like arguing with you know, it's 1:02:47.105 --> 1:02:50.225 like arguing with my six year old grandson. I don't care, Papa, 1:02:50.425 --> 1:02:52.665 I don't care. You know you cheat it, you know 1:02:52.905 --> 1:02:56.985 you bos the cheat. Okay, well, all right, whatever whatever. 1:02:57.145 --> 1:02:59.305 But you're right. They all three deserve it. They all 1:02:59.385 --> 1:03:01.025 three deserve it. I just don't think they all three 1:03:01.065 --> 1:03:03.185 get in. I hope I'm wrong. 1:03:03.625 --> 1:03:06.064 I'm hoping you hope I'm wrong. I hope I'm wrong 1:03:06.105 --> 1:03:07.825 to me too. But all three do get in. 1:03:08.025 --> 1:03:08.665 Yeah. Correct. 1:03:08.665 --> 1:03:13.945 But I'm going, like I said, I'm gonna. I gave 1:03:13.985 --> 1:03:18.625 my my annsinence to to Evan the other day. Like 1:03:18.705 --> 1:03:20.585 I said, I'm still going to my jersey in my hat. 1:03:20.705 --> 1:03:22.745 As soon as I get it, I send it to them. 1:03:23.105 --> 1:03:24.745 You know, I'm a man of my word, you know. 1:03:25.425 --> 1:03:29.185 But uh, but this other thing is I don't trust. 1:03:29.625 --> 1:03:35.025 I'm sorry, uh Wolf and the guy uh grow because 1:03:35.105 --> 1:03:36.945 you was there with Bill and like I said, this 1:03:37.545 --> 1:03:41.505 this class here, it's like the way Bill drafts. I'm sorry, 1:03:41.825 --> 1:03:43.425 you got the same guys as you like I've been 1:03:43.425 --> 1:03:46.265 saying for years, and y'all keep saying whatever, No, sir, 1:03:46.585 --> 1:03:49.425 you keep drafting the same guy. You don't go after 1:03:49.465 --> 1:03:53.665 that athlete or whatever. And then uh, I brought up 1:03:53.705 --> 1:03:59.545 this yesterday with pu that okay, Uh they said the Chargers, 1:04:00.705 --> 1:04:03.145 Uh after that traded, traded, and in the draft this 1:04:03.265 --> 1:04:05.785 year was the robbery. So they two got they three 1:04:05.865 --> 1:04:07.985 guys just produced and they seven and three. We three 1:04:08.065 --> 1:04:11.465 and eight. Polk can't get more more pillowties. He ain't 1:04:11.465 --> 1:04:14.665 got what two touchdown the two touchdowns and two hand 1:04:14.705 --> 1:04:18.065 snaps and Baconon got nineteen snaps. But you got lab 1:04:18.145 --> 1:04:20.945 mcconty and that I read that, Uh, the guy at 1:04:20.985 --> 1:04:23.865 the corner. They got cam Hart and they playing and 1:04:23.905 --> 1:04:28.545 they started they play off ready, you know with the Chargers, 1:04:29.185 --> 1:04:33.185 and you let Thornton go, which I understand he haven't 1:04:33.305 --> 1:04:37.025 showed nothing. I don't still think they're coaching, right, you know. 1:04:37.225 --> 1:04:40.625 And then they did not to use because if it 1:04:40.705 --> 1:04:43.465 got picked up the nixt day by Kansas City, now 1:04:43.505 --> 1:04:45.945 they got two four two guys on the outside or whatever, 1:04:46.305 --> 1:04:48.785 and watch how they use it and what and now 1:04:49.025 --> 1:04:52.185 I'm watching to see, Okay, if he flourished there. It's 1:04:52.305 --> 1:04:55.785 it's the problems in New England. It's the that's the problem. 1:04:55.865 --> 1:04:57.225 They don't know how to use They want to put 1:04:57.265 --> 1:04:59.305 him in the system instead of using the guys will 1:04:59.345 --> 1:05:01.065 be how they supposed to be used. Okay, you know, 1:05:01.785 --> 1:05:04.865 and that's my that's my biggest right But is uh 1:05:05.185 --> 1:05:07.985 which car? It ain't that I was glad that they 1:05:08.025 --> 1:05:10.985 are competitive, but it's like Paul said the other day, 1:05:11.545 --> 1:05:13.544 can it be just your the other team that's better 1:05:13.585 --> 1:05:16.345 than players are better than what you got, you know, 1:05:16.465 --> 1:05:18.185 and they can't run with him, they can't play with 1:05:18.505 --> 1:05:20.945 And that's not ninety nine percent what the deal is. 1:05:21.265 --> 1:05:23.265 Well, sure it is. And didn't even know how to draft, 1:05:23.425 --> 1:05:25.505 that's right. And and that's where I think that's the 1:05:25.585 --> 1:05:27.905 crux of the problem. The Patriots just don't have right 1:05:28.025 --> 1:05:31.305 now enough good players to be compared with the upper 1:05:31.345 --> 1:05:34.625 echelon in the NFL. It's it's real simple, and we've 1:05:34.825 --> 1:05:37.305 we've talked about this before. It will continue to be 1:05:37.345 --> 1:05:40.465 a topic of a conversation for the foreseeable future until 1:05:40.505 --> 1:05:44.544 the problem corrects itself. But this is a problem that began. 1:05:45.145 --> 1:05:47.065 This is a problem, well, this is a problem that started, 1:05:47.065 --> 1:05:49.625 as we know, probably five to seven to even ten 1:05:49.745 --> 1:05:53.185 years ago with you know, some of the failures. So okay, 1:05:53.385 --> 1:05:54.745 even so you want to go back that far, we 1:05:54.865 --> 1:05:57.305 go back that far. But that's the problem that we 1:05:57.385 --> 1:05:59.825 had with the previous regime that we need to figure 1:05:59.865 --> 1:06:01.425 out a way to kind of nip in the butt 1:06:01.545 --> 1:06:04.505 now because it's sort of you know, I mean, it's 1:06:04.505 --> 1:06:07.705 stockpiled to the point now where other teams have passed 1:06:07.745 --> 1:06:13.825 you by. You've hit on fewer selections, both the free 1:06:13.825 --> 1:06:15.985 agency and the draft than you did back in the 1:06:16.065 --> 1:06:19.065 early two thousands. That's how the Patriots built themselves. That's 1:06:19.105 --> 1:06:22.465 how they built two you know, Super Bowl, you know, decades, 1:06:23.185 --> 1:06:26.145 you know, with those kind of players. And then the 1:06:26.265 --> 1:06:28.705 last several drafts have just, man, I don't know what 1:06:28.785 --> 1:06:30.985 it is, but listen, if I'm if I'm a player 1:06:31.025 --> 1:06:32.625 and I'm getting picked in the second round by the 1:06:32.665 --> 1:06:35.305 New England Patriots, and especially if I'm playing wide receiver, 1:06:35.545 --> 1:06:39.505 I'm running the other way, that's almost like that's almost 1:06:39.545 --> 1:06:42.745 like the Kids of Death. It's almost literally, it's almost 1:06:42.785 --> 1:06:44.625 like the Kids of Death. I mean, you know, Taekwon 1:06:44.705 --> 1:06:47.625 Thornton gets released, Jalen Polk is struggling. I mean, I 1:06:47.945 --> 1:06:50.665 you know, I'm just like, wow, this is just you 1:06:50.785 --> 1:06:54.145 can't It's comical. It really is comical. I don't know. 1:06:54.345 --> 1:06:56.825 You couldn't try to be that bad if you really 1:06:56.945 --> 1:06:59.145 wanted to. And I think the Patriots just sort of 1:06:59.225 --> 1:07:03.825 like down for you. Well but but but when those pictures, 1:07:03.825 --> 1:07:06.425 but when those pictures, when those picts are made, elderd. 1:07:06.465 --> 1:07:08.905 I mean, honestly, when those picts are made, you're thinking, Okay, well, 1:07:08.985 --> 1:07:10.705 you know, pretty good guy, blah blah blah. Maybe you 1:07:10.825 --> 1:07:13.104 had a favorite or another you know, type of player 1:07:13.145 --> 1:07:15.025 that you would have taken in that slot, but you 1:07:15.185 --> 1:07:15.865 can't really. 1:07:17.345 --> 1:07:19.385 A whole lot better even. 1:07:20.745 --> 1:07:22.544 Well, of course go back and check. 1:07:23.225 --> 1:07:26.145 Okay, I'm saying it, and I'm staying it on the 1:07:26.265 --> 1:07:30.985 radio when they picked before it ain't a man. No, 1:07:31.185 --> 1:07:33.745 I'm saying it before they get them, when they get 1:07:33.785 --> 1:07:35.185 him into draft and before the draft. 1:07:35.225 --> 1:07:38.305 All right, well then d they got harried then then, Eldred, 1:07:39.425 --> 1:07:40.985 I'm gonna nominate you for GM. 1:07:42.465 --> 1:07:46.145 Heym. I kept saying, mister Kraft on your show, let 1:07:46.185 --> 1:07:48.105 me draft for you one time, one time. You don't 1:07:48.145 --> 1:07:50.905 have to pay me. I draft better than your GM 1:07:50.985 --> 1:07:54.145 that you got now in one pass and you have 1:07:54.425 --> 1:07:56.225 you have me come back next year and you still 1:07:56.225 --> 1:07:57.465 wouldn't have to pay me then my key. 1:07:57.945 --> 1:08:00.065 All right, Well, you know when we get when we 1:08:00.145 --> 1:08:02.825 get closer to the draft this next year, all right, 1:08:03.145 --> 1:08:05.825 I'm gonna let you make the picks. All right, you 1:08:05.905 --> 1:08:08.225 can come on this program, you can make those picks, 1:08:08.505 --> 1:08:10.345 and then let's stand them up through the test of 1:08:10.425 --> 1:08:12.265 time through next year and let's just see how well 1:08:12.305 --> 1:08:12.545 you do. 1:08:13.705 --> 1:08:16.065 All right, Okay, we're gonna do that. Okay, y'all kept 1:08:16.105 --> 1:08:18.425 saying it takes two to three years. 1:08:18.545 --> 1:08:20.505 Two well, and and I agree with that. But I 1:08:20.625 --> 1:08:22.585 want you to pick who you want to pick, and 1:08:22.625 --> 1:08:25.185 then we'll see how the season unfolds. We'll keep track 1:08:25.225 --> 1:08:27.105 of it. Marine. We're gonna keep track of this for 1:08:27.225 --> 1:08:30.064 Eldred and yeah, absolutely once and for all. Let's let's 1:08:30.305 --> 1:08:32.305 let's let's figure this thing out. Let's see how you 1:08:32.385 --> 1:08:32.985 do with it, all. 1:08:32.905 --> 1:08:36.785 Right, most definitely okay. And another thing, your boy a 1:08:36.905 --> 1:08:39.585 d Mitchell seemed to becoming a little bit more now 1:08:39.785 --> 1:08:43.865 that Richardon back in there. Ye you noticed that, yes, sir, yes, 1:08:44.105 --> 1:08:45.305 one of him before we got poked. 1:08:45.385 --> 1:08:48.265 I understand that. And listen, believe me. I know, listen, 1:08:48.345 --> 1:08:50.425 I was a big fan. I liked A d Mitchell 1:08:50.465 --> 1:08:52.785 more than I like Xavier Worthy, and and and and 1:08:52.905 --> 1:08:54.985 Worthy has had himself a pretty damn good season for 1:08:55.105 --> 1:08:57.145 Kansas City. Of course, he's got my homes to throw to, 1:08:57.345 --> 1:08:58.945 you know, throwing to him too. But you know, I 1:08:59.305 --> 1:09:00.425 like both of those receivers. 1:09:00.505 --> 1:09:04.025 So you know, I remember a couple of years ago. Yeah, 1:09:04.505 --> 1:09:07.825 I'll see it, Quentin Quinton Johnson, y'all, y'all laughed at me. 1:09:08.305 --> 1:09:10.865 But for San Diego, took him a couple of years 1:09:10.945 --> 1:09:13.665 and now he's producing. Of laugh, McConkie's on his on 1:09:13.785 --> 1:09:15.505 his side, and he's producing now on the end zone 1:09:15.705 --> 1:09:17.985 and stretching the field too. I'm like, damn s you 1:09:18.065 --> 1:09:18.465 know what I'm saying. 1:09:18.545 --> 1:09:21.745 Right, Well, you're exaggerating because nobody laughs at you. Nobody 1:09:23.825 --> 1:09:27.865 not laughing at you. Okay, well, Paul can laugh at you. 1:09:27.985 --> 1:09:32.305 But I know better, I know I like your football judgment, Eldred. 1:09:32.345 --> 1:09:34.185 That's why I'm gonna let you. I'm gonna let you be. 1:09:34.385 --> 1:09:38.385 You know our playbook GM here okay, okay. 1:09:38.585 --> 1:09:40.305 Glad to do it before right in the draft store 1:09:40.345 --> 1:09:42.665 all before the draft. Good, good, glad my board ready 1:09:42.665 --> 1:09:43.145 to right. 1:09:43.425 --> 1:09:46.225 And you need to talk to Marine too, because frankly, 1:09:46.425 --> 1:09:49.785 we need more road tips from Eldred. We need we 1:09:49.865 --> 1:09:51.865 need more, you know, we need more road tips for 1:09:51.945 --> 1:09:53.985 Eldrid from Eldred. So we got to work on that. 1:09:55.425 --> 1:09:57.305 I got one on. Ask the people I didn't, and 1:09:57.785 --> 1:10:01.265 maybe you too, mister mister legend. Why is it if 1:10:01.305 --> 1:10:04.785 you go down the interstate, you in the right lane, 1:10:04.825 --> 1:10:08.065 the slow lane. Yeah, okay, you're coming up on a ramp. 1:10:08.345 --> 1:10:10.345 You about a half a mile away from the ramp, 1:10:11.625 --> 1:10:14.545 you got idiots in the third in the passing lane 1:10:14.625 --> 1:10:17.945 or the sickle lane. Instead of them getting behind you 1:10:17.985 --> 1:10:20.265 and take that rent bright, they're gonna shoot all across 1:10:20.305 --> 1:10:21.505 four lane. They shoot across the. 1:10:23.585 --> 1:10:25.625 I see that every day. I see that every day 1:10:25.665 --> 1:10:28.185 on my commute. I absolutely see that every day on 1:10:28.265 --> 1:10:30.585 my commute. And I actually have some set for the 1:10:30.665 --> 1:10:35.145 truck drivers. Yeah I do. I do, funny, but most 1:10:35.265 --> 1:10:36.825 most of the people who do that. And I'm well 1:10:36.865 --> 1:10:39.585 out on four ninety five, okay, when I'm I'm heading 1:10:39.665 --> 1:10:42.545 to you know, the campus on the day, and the 1:10:42.665 --> 1:10:45.385 cars that from the left lane go across the middle 1:10:45.425 --> 1:10:47.505 lane where the truckers are to get to the right line, 1:10:47.545 --> 1:10:50.105 to take the right exit. You know where they're all from. 1:10:51.905 --> 1:10:55.225 You know where they're all from. They're not they're not massholes. 1:10:55.265 --> 1:10:58.225 They're no, they're all from Rhode Island. Yeah. 1:10:58.625 --> 1:11:01.585 But the ones down here, they got enough kind of 1:11:01.625 --> 1:11:05.025 tags on. Some got Georgia, some of them got uh, Maryland. 1:11:05.225 --> 1:11:08.105 And I'm like, you know, if my truck went a 1:11:08.145 --> 1:11:10.865 little harder, i'd hit you. But see one thing, they 1:11:10.945 --> 1:11:15.305 keep with getting Campa people. Truck got cameras in it now, 1:11:15.345 --> 1:11:17.065 so you can't say, well, he used to vote. They 1:11:17.185 --> 1:11:19.985 got cameras now. Yeah, And I gotta keep killing everybody 1:11:20.345 --> 1:11:23.345 you get within one hundred feet the truck automatic stops 1:11:23.665 --> 1:11:25.745 and you're gonna kill somebody in the back of the truck. 1:11:26.945 --> 1:11:29.545 So they're gonna make it Jack night, it starts to accident. 1:11:29.665 --> 1:11:32.145 Eldridge, rules of the road, all right, you gotta we're 1:11:32.145 --> 1:11:35.705 gonna work that out with Marine. You the man. Happy Thanksgiving, Eldred, 1:11:35.945 --> 1:11:38.945 appreciate you a lot. My friend, Uh. Doug Kide covers 1:11:38.985 --> 1:11:42.105 the Patriots for the Boston Herald. Been a good friend 1:11:42.105 --> 1:11:44.025 of the program for a few years as well. Doug, 1:11:44.105 --> 1:11:46.265 thanks for hanging in. Really appreciate your being with us 1:11:46.265 --> 1:11:46.825 today for a bit. 1:11:48.825 --> 1:11:50.105 Absolutely, there's going, John. 1:11:49.985 --> 1:11:52.865 Good, it's going well. So do you see the same 1:11:52.945 --> 1:11:55.425 thing that elderd just described when you're on the highway 1:11:55.465 --> 1:11:58.945 and in denizens of the great State of Rhode Island, 1:11:59.105 --> 1:12:01.185 crossing in front of these trucks to make the exit 1:12:01.265 --> 1:12:02.825 on the next exit on the highway. 1:12:03.745 --> 1:12:06.145 You know, what I noticed about Hode Island drivers most 1:12:06.185 --> 1:12:10.265 of all, is that they pass from like from behind 1:12:10.505 --> 1:12:14.225 people like they're they're coming up behind you, and then 1:12:14.305 --> 1:12:16.945 they pass you so that you can't see that they're 1:12:16.985 --> 1:12:19.865 passing you before they pass you. Yeah, it's everyone else. 1:12:19.905 --> 1:12:22.305 Everyone asks you that gets out out in front, puts 1:12:22.345 --> 1:12:27.545 the blinkers on, then passes you. Rhode Island, it's. 1:12:27.945 --> 1:12:32.705 To you bash Rhode Island drivers. Ha ha, Come on, 1:12:33.665 --> 1:12:36.865 we're gonna bash somebody around here. And I called massholes 1:12:36.905 --> 1:12:41.625 for no reason. Well that's also true, and I'm a 1:12:41.705 --> 1:12:46.785 card carrying masshole and I'm proud of it too. All right, Okay, well, 1:12:46.825 --> 1:12:48.585 well we'll move on to that one. But you know, 1:12:48.665 --> 1:12:50.105 I just thought that was just kind of a little 1:12:50.145 --> 1:12:53.025 quirky thing as well. You know, hey, you know there's 1:12:53.025 --> 1:12:55.105 a little politeness involved before we tell people to go 1:12:55.185 --> 1:12:57.665 bleep themselves. So that's all. It's just it's just it's 1:12:57.785 --> 1:13:01.225 what we do. So let's kind of pick it up 1:13:01.265 --> 1:13:03.385 with uh, you know, the at least the big event 1:13:03.425 --> 1:13:04.945 of the day. And I mentioned this with Evan a 1:13:04.985 --> 1:13:07.705 little bit earlier, but you know, Cole Stranger's return to 1:13:07.825 --> 1:13:11.385 practice based on you know, what Christian Barmore did last 1:13:11.385 --> 1:13:12.945 week and then he got into the game for twenty 1:13:13.025 --> 1:13:15.945 twenty one snaps this past week. Do you expect to 1:13:16.025 --> 1:13:19.225 see Cole Strange play this week? And where does he play? 1:13:20.785 --> 1:13:24.505 I mean, with this regime, this seems possible, like and 1:13:24.705 --> 1:13:28.064 almost anything seems possible. Because Alex Ousner turned to practice 1:13:28.585 --> 1:13:31.185 few weeks ago and now he's finally been activated to 1:13:31.185 --> 1:13:34.345 the roster didn't play right away. But with Cole Strange, 1:13:34.425 --> 1:13:36.465 I certainly wouldn't be surprised. I mean, if Christian Barmore 1:13:36.505 --> 1:13:40.345 can play after you know, one practice having blood clot issues, 1:13:40.785 --> 1:13:43.545 one practice since last January or whatever it was, then 1:13:44.025 --> 1:13:47.585 then yeah, it's possible with Cole Strange as well. And 1:13:47.905 --> 1:13:50.705 as for where he plays, there's a spot for him 1:13:50.745 --> 1:13:53.505 at left guard or at center right now. And you know, 1:13:53.625 --> 1:13:56.585 Michael Jordan and Ben Brown. Those guys have been holding 1:13:56.625 --> 1:13:59.905 down the ford as best as they can. Ben Brown especially, 1:13:59.985 --> 1:14:03.225 you know, really tough situation coming over from the Raiders 1:14:03.585 --> 1:14:06.425 playing in a game after practicing just twice. But both 1:14:06.505 --> 1:14:08.305 of those guys, as far as I was looking at 1:14:08.425 --> 1:14:11.625 the PFF grade today, both of those guys really ranked 1:14:11.665 --> 1:14:14.945 near the very bottom of their position groups this season 1:14:14.985 --> 1:14:17.585 as far as the PFF grades have gone, they're really 1:14:17.625 --> 1:14:20.785 struggling in past protection. So I think that when Cole 1:14:20.865 --> 1:14:23.545 Strange is ready, when he's a full go, when they 1:14:23.585 --> 1:14:26.105 feel comfortable putting him in there, I would put him 1:14:26.105 --> 1:14:28.265 in there at probably left guard or center. I might 1:14:28.345 --> 1:14:30.825 put him in at left guard just because that's position 1:14:30.905 --> 1:14:33.385 he's played before, that's the one he's more comfortable in, 1:14:33.785 --> 1:14:36.225 rather than forcing him in there at center. But I 1:14:36.265 --> 1:14:38.505 would start him absolutely before the season then. 1:14:38.785 --> 1:14:40.385 And one of the things that we kind of mentioned 1:14:40.425 --> 1:14:42.785 earlier was we kind of feel like the coaches to 1:14:42.825 --> 1:14:45.785 have as it presently, you know, exists likes Michael Jordan 1:14:45.905 --> 1:14:49.345 in that spot. So do you who's whose position? Do 1:14:49.425 --> 1:14:52.025 you interrupt here? Do you you come in and start 1:14:52.065 --> 1:14:54.465 snapping even though you're learning a new position basically for 1:14:54.825 --> 1:14:56.945 you know, for Ben Brown, or do you come in 1:14:57.265 --> 1:14:59.945 and you know, move Michael Jordan around and make him 1:15:00.025 --> 1:15:04.505 the swing piece. I mean, there's you're finally starting to 1:15:04.625 --> 1:15:07.585 get at least some semblance of continuity on this offensive 1:15:07.625 --> 1:15:11.785 line after you know, juggling balls the entire year, and 1:15:11.905 --> 1:15:14.505 now this is actually the best problem you've had for 1:15:14.545 --> 1:15:16.505 the offensive line in a long time. Is how do 1:15:16.545 --> 1:15:19.185 you figure out a way to put your your first 1:15:19.305 --> 1:15:21.585 round pick from twenty to twenty two back into the lineup. 1:15:22.905 --> 1:15:25.385 I think it would be a left guard because you 1:15:25.425 --> 1:15:27.745 do remember a few weeks ago when we saw Michael 1:15:27.745 --> 1:15:31.105 Wenhu playing at left guard. See that didn't stick for 1:15:31.185 --> 1:15:33.305 a game, but that tells me that they were at 1:15:33.345 --> 1:15:36.585 least willing to experiment a little bit and willing to 1:15:36.625 --> 1:15:39.345 take Michael Jordan out of that starting lineup if it 1:15:39.385 --> 1:15:41.505 comes down to it. So I do think that this 1:15:41.585 --> 1:15:43.985 could be a good opportunity for it the offensive line, 1:15:44.065 --> 1:15:46.265 just it has to be better. In general. They've been 1:15:46.265 --> 1:15:48.345 a little bit better with Drake Maye quarterback than they 1:15:48.385 --> 1:15:50.705 were earlier in the season with Choby Perscat, but there's 1:15:50.745 --> 1:15:53.785 still absolutely room for improvement there. So you know, I 1:15:54.185 --> 1:15:55.945 would put him in there at left guard. If they 1:15:56.025 --> 1:15:58.105 really like Jordan, then I would certainly sit them at 1:15:58.145 --> 1:16:00.385 center as well. But it just seems like a better 1:16:00.425 --> 1:16:02.385 fit firm there at left guard, and then you can 1:16:02.425 --> 1:16:06.305 get some decent athleticism there too, between viderian low left 1:16:06.345 --> 1:16:08.945 tackle and cool strangle left guard that it could be helpful. 1:16:09.105 --> 1:16:11.985 Sure, I don't disagree with that. I'm just you know, listen, 1:16:12.065 --> 1:16:14.305 the versatility of someone that's always been preached about that 1:16:14.345 --> 1:16:17.625 offensive line. And that's how teams really help themselves with depth, 1:16:17.665 --> 1:16:20.705 as we all know, is to have guys play multiple positions. 1:16:20.745 --> 1:16:24.025 So here's a guy that can play, apparently now multiple positions, 1:16:24.105 --> 1:16:26.465 even he's been working out with David Andrews, like has 1:16:26.545 --> 1:16:30.025 been reported or alleged. Where do you put him? And yeah, 1:16:30.025 --> 1:16:31.385 I would think you'd want to try to put him 1:16:31.385 --> 1:16:34.345 with a position to strength, But listen, we've seen this 1:16:34.505 --> 1:16:37.225 coaching staff do things that you know, quite frankly, I don't. 1:16:37.225 --> 1:16:39.905 I wouldn't have expected Barmore just came back a week ago. 1:16:40.065 --> 1:16:42.745 I would never have expected him to see him play 1:16:43.345 --> 1:16:44.985 first week back, and yet there he goes, and he 1:16:44.985 --> 1:16:48.345 gets twenty twenty one steps and I guess, mixed bag, 1:16:48.625 --> 1:16:51.105 you know, in terms of review from last week. But 1:16:51.185 --> 1:16:53.705 the fact that he's in there playing you know, up, 1:16:53.865 --> 1:16:56.945 I guess, and getting his feet wet and learning how 1:16:56.985 --> 1:16:59.145 to kind of do things all over again. I think 1:16:59.145 --> 1:17:00.585 it's great that he's kind of learning on the fly 1:17:00.945 --> 1:17:02.905 kind of takes me back. And I mentioned this earlier 1:17:02.945 --> 1:17:05.465 on the show today, But you know, it's the same 1:17:05.545 --> 1:17:08.305 philosophy really that I've always described to when it comes 1:17:08.345 --> 1:17:10.105 to playing Drake may I wanted him to play so 1:17:10.185 --> 1:17:11.745 he could learn on the fly. And it seems like 1:17:11.825 --> 1:17:14.065 kind of like that's what Barmore did a little last week, 1:17:14.105 --> 1:17:16.665 and maybe what a guy like Cole Strange ends up doing. 1:17:16.785 --> 1:17:21.145 So there's a little imbalance there in terms of philosophy, 1:17:21.225 --> 1:17:23.705 I think in terms of putting guys in the lineup. 1:17:24.425 --> 1:17:26.585 Yeah, I mean with Bill Delichick at head coach, you 1:17:27.025 --> 1:17:29.465 could always kind of anticipate that you would bring guys 1:17:29.665 --> 1:17:31.945 along slowly. Yea, when they were coming back it would 1:17:31.945 --> 1:17:34.265 take a few weeks for them to get back in there. 1:17:34.345 --> 1:17:36.425 But yeah, no, one hundred percent. It seems like with 1:17:36.585 --> 1:17:39.585 Drawd Mayo, they're much more willing to thrust guys in 1:17:39.705 --> 1:17:41.825 there learn on the fly. I think, you know, alex 1:17:41.905 --> 1:17:44.025 Am Pellt plays in it as well. And I mean, 1:17:44.145 --> 1:17:46.585 like you said, I never would have expected Christian Barmore 1:17:46.985 --> 1:17:50.385 to play twenty plus snaps with one practice under his 1:17:50.465 --> 1:17:54.185 belt after missing whatever it was, ten eleven months of football, 1:17:54.585 --> 1:17:57.825 going through the you know, a health situation, health related 1:17:57.865 --> 1:18:00.385 situation with blood cloths like I wouldn't have thought that 1:18:00.465 --> 1:18:02.705 was possible, but clearly they thought he could and he 1:18:02.785 --> 1:18:04.105 did it. And you know, he came out of it, 1:18:05.065 --> 1:18:07.585 like you said, mixed results. It didn't make a major 1:18:07.665 --> 1:18:09.745 impact in the game, but he wound up with three tackles. 1:18:09.985 --> 1:18:12.585 He was able to contribute, you know, rotate in there 1:18:12.625 --> 1:18:14.025 a little bit. And now I think that we'll just 1:18:14.065 --> 1:18:16.825 see his his uh, you know, his role grow. It 1:18:17.305 --> 1:18:18.025 goes along now too. 1:18:18.225 --> 1:18:20.825 Sure, Doug, what was the biggest reason in your estimation 1:18:20.985 --> 1:18:23.065 you think that the Patriot lost that game to the 1:18:23.185 --> 1:18:23.985 Rams last week. 1:18:27.705 --> 1:18:30.065 I mean, when it boils down to it, it was 1:18:30.385 --> 1:18:33.305 the defense. I think the defense really failed them in 1:18:33.385 --> 1:18:36.225 that game. You know, Jonathan Jones said after the game 1:18:36.265 --> 1:18:38.305 that he's got to be better off for the Patriots. 1:18:38.345 --> 1:18:41.105 He was certainly someone that should have played a lot better. 1:18:41.145 --> 1:18:43.985 He got burned by Cooper Cup on the sixty nine 1:18:44.065 --> 1:18:47.185 yard catch. Obviously you can throw coaching in there as well, 1:18:47.385 --> 1:18:49.705 since they called it zero blitz and he had no 1:18:49.785 --> 1:18:51.985 safety help over the top, But he also got burned 1:18:52.025 --> 1:18:56.185 by Cook Nakula for another touchdown the game. I personally 1:18:56.265 --> 1:19:00.065 disagreed with the philosophy of, you know, having Christian Gonzalez 1:19:00.145 --> 1:19:02.345 play the majority of the game on the boundary and 1:19:02.425 --> 1:19:05.385 did not match him up with either or Cooper Cup. 1:19:05.985 --> 1:19:07.865 It was a it was a plan that worked well 1:19:07.905 --> 1:19:10.505 against the Bears, and for me that it worked well 1:19:10.625 --> 1:19:14.265 because there wasn't a weak wide receiver that the Bears 1:19:14.265 --> 1:19:17.505 could put on on Christian Goanzalez. Between DJ Moore, Keenan Allen, 1:19:18.265 --> 1:19:21.025 and Romo dun Day, someone was going to be worthy 1:19:21.065 --> 1:19:23.545 of that coverage. When you put Christian Gonzalez on the 1:19:23.585 --> 1:19:25.985 boundary against the Rams and they can just throw DeMarcus 1:19:26.065 --> 1:19:28.185 Robinson in there and get just kind of like set 1:19:28.225 --> 1:19:30.465 it and forget it, I think that's where you into 1:19:30.505 --> 1:19:32.545 issues because then you can let your other two wide 1:19:32.545 --> 1:19:35.505 receivers run free. So that's another big element. So I 1:19:35.585 --> 1:19:37.985 do think it was a majority of defense and really 1:19:38.105 --> 1:19:40.745 coaching on defense as well. I think there were some 1:19:40.825 --> 1:19:42.825 decisions that Droug Mayo might want to have back on 1:19:42.945 --> 1:19:47.225 offense too. But I mean Drake may performed certainly the 1:19:47.265 --> 1:19:49.865 interception at the end in help, but may it really 1:19:49.985 --> 1:19:52.185 just does boil down to the defensive performance. 1:19:52.425 --> 1:19:54.385 Sure, And I think there would be a lot of 1:19:54.425 --> 1:19:56.105 people that would agree with you. And of course you 1:19:56.185 --> 1:19:58.705 mentioned Drake's performance, which was you know, he had you know, 1:19:59.065 --> 1:20:01.745 his best numbers yet coming off I guess overall his 1:20:01.905 --> 1:20:05.065 best start thus far. Is there a danger for him 1:20:05.105 --> 1:20:08.145 to maybe hit a plateau here just because of the 1:20:08.785 --> 1:20:12.345 personnel that he has surround him. How can maybe this 1:20:12.505 --> 1:20:15.505 coaching is to have best keep him moving in an 1:20:15.665 --> 1:20:18.785 upward sort of curve here in an effort to be 1:20:18.865 --> 1:20:21.545 able to attract others to come to this roster in 1:20:21.625 --> 1:20:22.265 the off season. 1:20:23.505 --> 1:20:27.265 I think one big thing would be having some continuity 1:20:27.425 --> 1:20:30.345 a wide receiver, And I think we're getting closer that 1:20:30.745 --> 1:20:33.985 where Kendrick Bourne had a big game on Sunday to 1:20:34.065 --> 1:20:38.185 Mario Douglas performed well, Kayshaun Boody stayed pretty consistent and 1:20:38.265 --> 1:20:40.705 then obviously targeting Hunter Henry and Austin Hooper in the 1:20:40.745 --> 1:20:43.065 passing game as well. So for me, I think to 1:20:43.265 --> 1:20:45.785 continue that upward trajectory. I think there is a potential 1:20:45.865 --> 1:20:49.465 plateau with his supporting cast on offense just because it 1:20:49.585 --> 1:20:51.425 is one of the weaker offensive lines in the NFL. 1:20:51.625 --> 1:20:53.785 It's on the weaker wide receiver groups. But if you 1:20:53.865 --> 1:20:56.305 can keep those starting three of Kayshaun Buoy to Mario 1:20:56.385 --> 1:20:59.665 Douglas and Kendrick Burn and Drake May can really start 1:20:59.705 --> 1:21:01.985 to develop some chemistry with those guys. He talked about 1:21:02.025 --> 1:21:04.025 it a little bit today, where he wants his wide 1:21:04.065 --> 1:21:06.745 receivers to be playing football. He doesn't necessarily want them 1:21:06.745 --> 1:21:09.345 to go exactly what's on the play call sheet. He 1:21:09.465 --> 1:21:11.305 wants them to see what he's seeing at some of 1:21:11.345 --> 1:21:13.785 the same stuff that we talked about with Tom Brady. 1:21:13.865 --> 1:21:16.025 And I do think that that was probably the cause 1:21:16.065 --> 1:21:18.905 of that interception to Marto Douglas, where maybe de Mario 1:21:18.945 --> 1:21:21.425 Douglas was doing what was on the play call sheet. 1:21:21.905 --> 1:21:23.905 He was running the exact route that was called, but 1:21:24.225 --> 1:21:27.425 Drake May expected him to do something different on that 1:21:27.585 --> 1:21:30.465 play to cut in in front of the state sees 1:21:30.505 --> 1:21:33.145 behind the linebacker hit him over the middle there. So 1:21:33.545 --> 1:21:37.025 I think that with more continuity, with a little bit 1:21:37.065 --> 1:21:39.545 more predictability at wide receiver you will start to see 1:21:39.625 --> 1:21:41.985 that and it thinks that maybe a guy like Jalen 1:21:41.985 --> 1:21:44.905 Polk or Javon Baker doesn't play as many snaps if 1:21:44.945 --> 1:21:47.825 that is the case. But overall, I think it is 1:21:47.905 --> 1:21:51.105 about developing Drake May and like you said, it's about developing. 1:21:51.145 --> 1:21:55.025 It's about attracting other talent this offseason and maybe not 1:21:55.185 --> 1:21:58.465 having to overpay so significantly for a guy like Kee 1:21:58.585 --> 1:21:59.585 Higgins in creation. 1:21:59.785 --> 1:22:01.625 Yeah, you fly out, gotta want. You got to have 1:22:01.745 --> 1:22:04.345 guys that want to be here because you know you 1:22:04.745 --> 1:22:06.145 I mean, I wouldn't say you're going to get you know, 1:22:06.225 --> 1:22:08.345 pennies on the dollar for him, but still you still 1:22:08.425 --> 1:22:11.305 have guys that are motivated to be here, to play 1:22:11.385 --> 1:22:12.985 with a talent that can put the ball in their 1:22:13.025 --> 1:22:15.665 hands so they can do what they do best. And 1:22:15.865 --> 1:22:18.745 you know, everybody's always look, you sign a contract, but everybody, 1:22:18.825 --> 1:22:22.745 we know, everybody's always playing for the next deal. The 1:22:23.305 --> 1:22:25.065 contract that you want to be wary of is a 1:22:25.105 --> 1:22:28.145 guy who's, you know, signing his last deal. You want 1:22:28.225 --> 1:22:31.065 somebody who's playing for his next deal. That's when you're 1:22:31.105 --> 1:22:33.185 going to be able to really maximize I think the 1:22:33.305 --> 1:22:35.945 want to in terms of being in a particular place. 1:22:36.985 --> 1:22:39.665 Yeah, absolutely, And I think that one one kind of 1:22:39.745 --> 1:22:44.545 underrated element is you start to see last week after 1:22:44.625 --> 1:22:47.265 the game against the ram Sean McVay really talking up 1:22:47.345 --> 1:22:52.305 Drake May. Today, Mike McDaniel from the Dolphins, he's really 1:22:52.345 --> 1:22:54.985 talking up Drake May. When you see the analyst guy 1:22:55.105 --> 1:22:57.385 like guys like dann Er lobsk Here, any of these 1:22:57.425 --> 1:23:00.425 other quarterback experts that are out there really tweeting about 1:23:00.465 --> 1:23:03.025 Drake May, talking up Drake May. I think that's the 1:23:03.145 --> 1:23:05.825 kind of stuff the players see at this point too. 1:23:05.985 --> 1:23:08.785 So I think that anything like that is going to 1:23:08.825 --> 1:23:11.385 be helping to attract that talent. Like you said, those 1:23:11.425 --> 1:23:13.585 guys who are wanting to play for the next contract 1:23:13.625 --> 1:23:15.745 and say, hey, that's a quarterback who's. 1:23:15.505 --> 1:23:16.145 On the up and up. 1:23:16.385 --> 1:23:18.785 That's someone that I want to play for. So anything 1:23:18.905 --> 1:23:21.545 like that right now is just really beneficial to the Patriots. 1:23:21.745 --> 1:23:23.545 Well as far as this game is concerned, I think 1:23:23.585 --> 1:23:26.425 we certainly can see it, you know, right out there 1:23:26.705 --> 1:23:29.025 in front of everybody, that the Dolphins need to win 1:23:29.185 --> 1:23:33.145 to keep whatever flailing post season hopes they have alive. 1:23:33.945 --> 1:23:36.265 They certainly looked a little bit better last week against 1:23:36.665 --> 1:23:39.345 you know, the Raiders, and getting a win, even though 1:23:39.345 --> 1:23:41.385 they fell you know, flat in the previous few weeks. 1:23:41.425 --> 1:23:44.465 But there definitely is a pathway for them to play 1:23:44.545 --> 1:23:48.705 their way back into serious postseason contention. And you would 1:23:48.705 --> 1:23:50.345 think that the last thing that they would want to 1:23:50.385 --> 1:23:52.825 do is be able to, you know, stumble at the 1:23:52.865 --> 1:23:55.105 hands of a team that Franklin they've owned over the 1:23:55.185 --> 1:23:57.945 last couple of years. I mean, you know, I think 1:23:58.025 --> 1:24:00.385 you know, Tua can almost call the Patriots his daddy. 1:24:02.465 --> 1:24:05.385 Yeah, I mean, it's it's a matchup that I don't 1:24:05.425 --> 1:24:08.145 necessarily expect the Patriots to win, but they have at 1:24:08.225 --> 1:24:12.425 least proven that they can stay competitive a game against 1:24:12.425 --> 1:24:13.985 the Rams. I think it does help a little bit 1:24:14.305 --> 1:24:16.465 that you played last weekend, Sean McVay. Now you're playing 1:24:16.465 --> 1:24:18.985 against Mike McDaniel a little bit more of a similar 1:24:19.105 --> 1:24:22.065 offense that those guys are running, So maybe you don't 1:24:22.105 --> 1:24:24.745 make some of those same mistakes that he made against 1:24:24.745 --> 1:24:27.905 the Rams and Matthew Stafford this week against the Dolphins. 1:24:27.945 --> 1:24:30.865 But no, I mean, this is definitely a highly motivated 1:24:30.945 --> 1:24:33.825 Dolphins team, a Dolphins team that wants to prove that 1:24:33.905 --> 1:24:36.865 they are legitimate, a Dolphins team that definitely is is 1:24:37.105 --> 1:24:40.185 you know on the trajectory potentially to make the playoffs 1:24:40.465 --> 1:24:43.345 if they can continue stringing together these wins. So the 1:24:43.425 --> 1:24:45.625 Patriots really have to come in with the mentality of 1:24:45.865 --> 1:24:48.305 trying to play spoiler, and it's tough to do. They 1:24:48.345 --> 1:24:50.585 have not played well in Miami over the last few 1:24:50.665 --> 1:24:53.825 years or really historically. It's a little bit easier obviously 1:24:54.025 --> 1:24:57.025 in November than it would be in September, but it's 1:24:57.065 --> 1:25:00.985 still a place historically, even even in December that gives 1:25:01.025 --> 1:25:03.665 the Patriots fit. They've got to get over that hump 1:25:03.745 --> 1:25:05.585 and maybe you we'll see with Rod Mayo and there 1:25:05.625 --> 1:25:07.945 it will be all look different. But no, I mean, 1:25:07.945 --> 1:25:09.665 they they definitely have to prove that they can win 1:25:09.785 --> 1:25:12.425 in Miami because that is a really tough stuffre Yeah, I. 1:25:12.545 --> 1:25:14.985 Just I'm just curious to see your observations. Why has 1:25:15.025 --> 1:25:17.265 it been so hard for them to win there? Why? 1:25:17.385 --> 1:25:17.545 Why? 1:25:17.785 --> 1:25:19.345 Why do they have this this phobia. 1:25:21.185 --> 1:25:23.905 It's it's a really good question. I mean, I'm sure 1:25:24.185 --> 1:25:28.025 that the difference in heat doesn't help, even even when 1:25:28.065 --> 1:25:30.785 you're even when it's like December and maybe it's a 1:25:30.785 --> 1:25:32.945 little bit more mild in the seventies or low eighties, 1:25:33.025 --> 1:25:35.985 still going from from Boston to there certainly doesn't help. 1:25:36.185 --> 1:25:37.865 I don't think it's a massive like, I don't think 1:25:37.865 --> 1:25:41.545 it's crowd noise so much. I don't think it's necessarily 1:25:41.625 --> 1:25:44.425 any specific thing about the teams or the stadium because 1:25:44.425 --> 1:25:47.505 it's been different regimes, it's been different coaching staff. So 1:25:47.985 --> 1:25:50.465 it's a really good question. The only thing I can possibly, 1:25:51.545 --> 1:25:54.025 you know, come to the conclusion on it is that 1:25:54.105 --> 1:25:56.825 it's got to be weather related. And even that, I mean, 1:25:56.905 --> 1:25:59.225 Bill Belichick tried that in the past of having them 1:25:59.265 --> 1:26:00.985 stay down in Miami for the weekend and it still 1:26:00.985 --> 1:26:01.425 didn't work. 1:26:01.545 --> 1:26:02.545 So I don't know. 1:26:02.825 --> 1:26:06.345 It is very interesting that that specific place, where that 1:26:06.385 --> 1:26:07.985 specific team gives them so much trouble. 1:26:08.025 --> 1:26:10.865 Yeah, sure, they sure do. And you've got to motivated 1:26:10.905 --> 1:26:13.425 Miami team because they don't want to stumble. They've got 1:26:13.465 --> 1:26:16.425 tougher games, allegedly tougher games on down the stretch that 1:26:16.465 --> 1:26:18.145 they're going to need to win in order to stay, 1:26:18.265 --> 1:26:20.585 you know, right in the hunt for a potential wildcard 1:26:20.665 --> 1:26:22.745 spot on down the line. So it's a it's an 1:26:22.785 --> 1:26:25.145 important day for the Dolphins. The Patriots are definitely going 1:26:25.225 --> 1:26:28.305 to have the target on their backs. Doug, thanks so much. 1:26:28.305 --> 1:26:30.865 For spending a little time with his day. It's all appreciated, 1:26:32.145 --> 1:26:32.945 absolutely anytime. 1:26:33.025 --> 1:26:33.225 John. 1:26:33.265 --> 1:26:35.345 Great talking to you, you too, Thank you, buddy. Doug 1:26:35.465 --> 1:26:37.825 kyde k y e ed in the last name it's 1:26:37.905 --> 1:26:41.705 at Doug kyde on X follow his stuff from the 1:26:41.825 --> 1:26:48.465 Boston Herald. Good guy and uh, you know, accurate, very accurate, 1:26:49.465 --> 1:26:52.745 hard to argue with just about anything. Uh with uh, 1:26:53.865 --> 1:26:56.065 what he's gone through, what he's what he's what he 1:26:56.145 --> 1:26:58.065 said about this team and the way that they've got 1:26:58.105 --> 1:27:00.505 things set up for, you know, for the foreseeable future. 1:27:00.505 --> 1:27:02.425 I mean, look, it's all kind of laid out there 1:27:02.505 --> 1:27:06.545 right now. You want to do what you can to 1:27:06.625 --> 1:27:11.105 keep Drake moving forward. Uh. You want to try to 1:27:11.145 --> 1:27:13.745 get back some of your walking wounded, which they're doing slowly. 1:27:14.185 --> 1:27:16.705 You want to try to continue developing younger players, the 1:27:16.745 --> 1:27:19.305 few that you have that seem to be willing to 1:27:19.425 --> 1:27:20.145 be developed. 1:27:20.825 --> 1:27:20.945 Uh. 1:27:21.105 --> 1:27:22.745 You want to see if you can get anything at 1:27:22.785 --> 1:27:25.625 all out of the ones that are disappointing. Jalen Polk, 1:27:25.785 --> 1:27:27.785 you know, step to the front of the line on 1:27:27.865 --> 1:27:28.185 that one. 1:27:28.665 --> 1:27:28.785 Uh. 1:27:28.905 --> 1:27:31.705 So you know, there are still things to accomplish for 1:27:31.785 --> 1:27:34.985 this year before we get completely to next year. And 1:27:35.025 --> 1:27:37.225 I know so many want to turn the page. I 1:27:37.305 --> 1:27:39.705 got asked that today at school. I like, you know, 1:27:40.025 --> 1:27:41.825 you know, guys coming up and say, well, so, what 1:27:41.905 --> 1:27:43.385 do you think they should do about next year? What 1:27:43.585 --> 1:27:45.465 should they do about you know, the receiver? What should 1:27:45.465 --> 1:27:47.825 they do about this? And I'm like, hey, I'm going 1:27:47.865 --> 1:27:49.545 to worry about that in the off season. What's this 1:27:49.665 --> 1:27:51.705 year is over? Right now? What I want to see 1:27:51.785 --> 1:27:55.985 is I want to see continued improvement, and not just 1:27:56.065 --> 1:27:58.105 from the players. I want to see continued improvement from 1:27:58.105 --> 1:28:00.505 the coaching staf. I want to see adjustments made. I 1:28:00.585 --> 1:28:02.465 want to see, you know, the light bulb go being 1:28:02.825 --> 1:28:06.225 on top of the heads of the coaches and the players. 1:28:06.665 --> 1:28:08.745 And anytime I get that light bulb to turn on, 1:28:08.825 --> 1:28:11.145 I'm going to feel like, okay, now you're making that 1:28:11.225 --> 1:28:13.865 step in the right direction. And we just haven't seen 1:28:13.945 --> 1:28:16.825 that often enough. That's a big reason why the team 1:28:16.905 --> 1:28:20.585 is three and eight thus far. You're going through some 1:28:20.705 --> 1:28:25.025 growing pains here and nobody's used to them. There is 1:28:25.105 --> 1:28:27.625 a way to get out of those growing pains. You 1:28:27.785 --> 1:28:31.225 need some more personnel, but you also need to coach 1:28:31.265 --> 1:28:37.425 them up better. So it's a two pronged fork right now, too, ProMED. 1:28:38.465 --> 1:28:41.465 One prong is gott to help the other, and if 1:28:41.505 --> 1:28:45.865 one prong stays bent, you're not gonna be You shouldn't 1:28:45.945 --> 1:28:49.025 tolerate it. You shouldn't tolerate it. That's why, you know, 1:28:49.905 --> 1:28:53.705 how this team ends this year and how they address 1:28:53.785 --> 1:28:56.265 the off season as soon as the off season occurs, 1:28:56.625 --> 1:28:59.385 it's hugely important for the immediate future of this team 1:28:59.665 --> 1:29:03.185 in this franchise. Let's go back to the phones here 1:29:03.305 --> 1:29:05.585 and our buddy Todd in North Carolina with us. 1:29:05.625 --> 1:29:08.465 Hey Todd, Hey John, how are you doing today? 1:29:08.585 --> 1:29:10.465 Good buddy, good? 1:29:10.505 --> 1:29:10.785 Two hear. 1:29:10.905 --> 1:29:13.105 So I'm driving and I'm watching and every time I 1:29:13.185 --> 1:29:15.185 see a Virginia license plight, I would like to hit 1:29:15.305 --> 1:29:17.545 the dirt and you know, find a place to call 1:29:17.585 --> 1:29:20.785 and hide because they go too fast. And yeah, they're 1:29:20.825 --> 1:29:23.065 the types that will not only come from four lanes over, 1:29:23.185 --> 1:29:26.185 but they'll be behind you, honking go over four lanes, 1:29:26.225 --> 1:29:28.705 come back and cut you off. Get the off round. 1:29:29.105 --> 1:29:31.705 Just yeah, I understand, just to push off. I get that. 1:29:31.785 --> 1:29:34.345 That's kind of like Rhode Island drivers around here, So yeah, 1:29:34.385 --> 1:29:36.625 I understand that completely. What I want to do is 1:29:36.625 --> 1:29:39.465 I want to put eldred uh, you know, on route 1:29:39.465 --> 1:29:41.745 four ninety five here and where you're traveling as well. 1:29:41.865 --> 1:29:43.385 I want to put Eldred in a tank. 1:29:46.425 --> 1:29:46.945 That'd be cool. 1:29:47.105 --> 1:29:49.305 Yeah, I'd be very cool with that. I think we 1:29:49.385 --> 1:29:51.105 want to put a we wouldn't want to put a camera, 1:29:51.505 --> 1:29:54.305 you know, on the front window of that tank, just 1:29:54.425 --> 1:29:56.625 so we can you know. Yeah, I think that would 1:29:56.665 --> 1:29:58.985 be you know, justice duly served. 1:30:00.305 --> 1:30:02.825 And the reason I called in is is exactly because 1:30:02.865 --> 1:30:09.105 of Eldred. Okay, I'm I'm wagering a Bertie's peanuts selection 1:30:09.305 --> 1:30:13.225 of peanuts. He can briddle whatever that he get against 1:30:13.305 --> 1:30:15.385 I don't know, offer T shirt or something that he 1:30:15.465 --> 1:30:19.625 can draft better than the Patriots draft team for the 1:30:19.665 --> 1:30:20.385 next year's draft. 1:30:20.465 --> 1:30:24.865 Well, okay, well we're we're okay. That's fine, and and 1:30:25.105 --> 1:30:27.465 and we can accept that, I guess as a show here. 1:30:27.585 --> 1:30:30.425 I I like that. I I will we'll at what 1:30:30.505 --> 1:30:33.665 Eldred does with what the team does, and we'll we'll 1:30:33.665 --> 1:30:36.105 see how he fares, because I think it's time, you know, 1:30:36.265 --> 1:30:39.025 for him to achieve you know, legendary status in his 1:30:39.105 --> 1:30:40.105 own right, don't you. 1:30:41.345 --> 1:30:44.265 Oh heck yeah, I love There's nobody who has the 1:30:44.345 --> 1:30:48.785 passion of Eldred. He just he's so tuned into the 1:30:48.905 --> 1:30:51.785 team and he's got that. I don't know if it's 1:30:51.825 --> 1:30:53.825 a sixth sense. He said, he'll tell you stuff like 1:30:54.025 --> 1:30:56.345 the team's gonna end up feeling in this area this year, 1:30:56.505 --> 1:30:58.025 and all of a sudden you look and it's like. 1:30:58.825 --> 1:31:02.185 Dang, yeah, it was right. Yeah, no, no, no word 1:31:02.225 --> 1:31:04.385 of a lie. I agree with you. And I've known 1:31:04.425 --> 1:31:07.745 this about Eldred for how many years I've been doing 1:31:07.825 --> 1:31:11.105 this show now, twenty four, twenty five? Almost yeah too, Damn, 1:31:11.145 --> 1:31:13.105 Mini is exactly right. But I have fun doing it 1:31:13.265 --> 1:31:14.745 because I get to talk to you, guys like you, 1:31:14.865 --> 1:31:18.265 and Eldred and and Patty and and a lot of 1:31:18.305 --> 1:31:20.305 the others that have been regulars on the show throughout 1:31:20.305 --> 1:31:23.185 the years. I enjoy this. I look forward to it because, frankly, 1:31:23.265 --> 1:31:26.585 I value your opinion. You follow the team closely enough 1:31:26.665 --> 1:31:29.945 to the point where your your opinions and the statements 1:31:29.945 --> 1:31:34.025 you have to make have validity because you watch the games. 1:31:34.505 --> 1:31:36.905 That's what I'm interested in. I'm not interested in just 1:31:36.985 --> 1:31:39.105 you know, straight pom pom waving. I want to know 1:31:39.225 --> 1:31:40.385 why you think the way you think. 1:31:42.385 --> 1:31:46.025 And with respect to Polk, didn't Booty have kind of 1:31:46.065 --> 1:31:48.265 a similar first year I know he's a sixth round 1:31:48.345 --> 1:31:50.905 draft pick and we shouldn't be comparing the two. But 1:31:50.945 --> 1:31:53.945 I seem to remember when Booty first was doing his thing. 1:31:54.345 --> 1:31:56.825 They loved him in the preseasons, like, oh my god, 1:31:56.865 --> 1:31:57.465 look what he can do. 1:31:57.545 --> 1:31:58.265 Look what he can do. 1:31:58.665 --> 1:32:01.785 Yeah, and then came around to the year and he's like, uh, 1:32:02.865 --> 1:32:05.025 because I think the game is so different. The NFL 1:32:05.105 --> 1:32:08.985 game is so so different than the college game. Yeah, 1:32:09.185 --> 1:32:14.265 it's faster, it's it's more complex. Well, it requires just 1:32:14.665 --> 1:32:17.905 a higher level of execution. You may have just don't 1:32:18.025 --> 1:32:19.265 think that that young guys are. 1:32:19.225 --> 1:32:21.465 Ready for it. You may have just answered your own question. 1:32:21.585 --> 1:32:23.025 I think that's part of the reason why we saw 1:32:23.105 --> 1:32:26.865 him struggle last year, because he just wasn't quite ready 1:32:27.025 --> 1:32:29.625 for the professional game. But now that he's had a 1:32:29.745 --> 1:32:32.185 year and a half now to learn how to be 1:32:32.265 --> 1:32:34.665 a pro, we're starting to see a little bit of 1:32:34.665 --> 1:32:36.785 production out of him. So, you know, he you know, 1:32:37.585 --> 1:32:39.105 you know, I had a few things hanging over his 1:32:39.185 --> 1:32:41.985 head before he got here. But I think he's I 1:32:42.065 --> 1:32:45.945 think I think he's in earnest, working his butt off 1:32:46.185 --> 1:32:49.265 to try to be a better player, a better professional. 1:32:49.545 --> 1:32:51.105 I think we're starting to see that, so I think 1:32:51.105 --> 1:32:52.305 you kind of answered your own question. 1:32:53.345 --> 1:32:55.745 Well see, I think that's why I'm getting too is 1:32:55.865 --> 1:32:57.705 I want to wait for both. I want to give 1:32:57.785 --> 1:33:00.905 both at least one more year, okay, just to see 1:33:00.905 --> 1:33:03.785 if he can have that development. I know there's a 1:33:03.865 --> 1:33:04.905 lot putting on him, a lot. 1:33:04.865 --> 1:33:05.905 Expected of him. 1:33:05.985 --> 1:33:06.185 Yep. 1:33:06.625 --> 1:33:10.185 And you know, I think I kind of agree with Aldrid. 1:33:10.225 --> 1:33:13.185 We always seem to get this weird, kind of a 1:33:13.625 --> 1:33:18.745 slow pondering guy for the outside, which I just I 1:33:19.665 --> 1:33:21.665 think that's the old school game. I think, just think 1:33:21.745 --> 1:33:23.545 in eighty seventies. 1:33:23.865 --> 1:33:24.065 You know. 1:33:25.545 --> 1:33:27.705 That just doesn't work anymore. I think you need those 1:33:27.785 --> 1:33:29.745 fast guys. I think you need the guys that stretch 1:33:29.785 --> 1:33:32.545 the field, and not only north south, but can stretch 1:33:32.585 --> 1:33:34.945 a field east west. But how many times they put 1:33:35.065 --> 1:33:38.185 tyra key on nail in motion and your defense has 1:33:38.265 --> 1:33:40.985 to find him, just move it. And that's what the 1:33:41.105 --> 1:33:43.465 Rams did it to us, too, right, they got guys 1:33:43.585 --> 1:33:47.225 with speed and skill they could move latterly. So you've 1:33:47.225 --> 1:33:49.265 got to be able to stretch the field in all directions. 1:33:49.305 --> 1:33:51.865 And I just the only person I can see doing 1:33:51.945 --> 1:33:53.905 that is our wonderful little swat guy. 1:33:53.945 --> 1:33:54.345 And that's it. 1:33:54.825 --> 1:33:56.305 It's the only guy that I think we got right 1:33:56.305 --> 1:33:56.545 now with. 1:33:56.585 --> 1:33:57.425 That kind of speed and. 1:33:57.505 --> 1:34:00.585 Ability to you know, unless we get our dB to 1:34:00.745 --> 1:34:03.185 place more offensive snaps, that's just. 1:34:03.265 --> 1:34:06.025 Hard, John, I know. I actually think you hit the 1:34:06.105 --> 1:34:07.065 nail on the head right there. 1:34:08.225 --> 1:34:08.465 Yeah. 1:34:08.945 --> 1:34:12.345 And with respect to defense, I was predicting this year 1:34:12.385 --> 1:34:14.865 that they regress, and I think that's kind of what's 1:34:14.905 --> 1:34:17.825 happened there. They just don't have They just didn't have 1:34:18.025 --> 1:34:21.545 the core people. We used to have depth, and the 1:34:21.625 --> 1:34:24.345 depth just kept getting eroded and eroded and eroded, and 1:34:24.625 --> 1:34:27.145 I was gone, John, is just there's no depth there. 1:34:27.625 --> 1:34:30.105 We take an injury on either side of the ball 1:34:30.265 --> 1:34:34.105 and it's over, and that's kind of sad. I don't know. 1:34:34.505 --> 1:34:36.105 I think we're gonna have to be patient and give 1:34:36.145 --> 1:34:39.065 them a year, two or three to get that back up. 1:34:39.305 --> 1:34:42.585 Two or three, two or three, Todd won't do it. 1:34:42.745 --> 1:34:46.065 You got a year. This is a very competitive league. 1:34:46.465 --> 1:34:49.025 It's all about winning now. You're in the business to 1:34:49.185 --> 1:34:51.705 win games, which has disturbed me about a lot of 1:34:51.745 --> 1:34:54.385 the philosophies that we've heard from this regime. You're not 1:34:54.745 --> 1:34:58.265 here necessarily to develop, you develop by winning. It's a 1:34:58.305 --> 1:35:00.945 little bast awkwards maybe, but to me, that's what it's 1:35:00.985 --> 1:35:01.545 always been. 1:35:02.105 --> 1:35:02.225 Uh. 1:35:02.505 --> 1:35:05.345 And you know, and maybe that's unfair. It could very 1:35:05.385 --> 1:35:08.185 well be unfair, but that's just the business of the NFL. 1:35:08.585 --> 1:35:11.825 And I think the Patriots sometimes I feel like sometimes 1:35:11.865 --> 1:35:13.505 the Patriots kind of a loose sight of that. So 1:35:14.185 --> 1:35:17.665 that's why you know, we opining the way that we do. 1:35:19.105 --> 1:35:20.945 Yeah, well that note, John, I can get my boy 1:35:20.985 --> 1:35:21.785 to piano class. 1:35:21.945 --> 1:35:26.425 All right, you got it, Thank you, Todd, appreciate you, 1:35:26.985 --> 1:35:29.345 uh very quickly. Bridged on the official tire of the 1:35:29.385 --> 1:35:32.105 New England Patriots is proud to partner with Sullivan Tire, 1:35:32.185 --> 1:35:36.705 New England's headquarters for quality Bridgestone tires. Visit Sullivantire dot 1:35:36.785 --> 1:35:39.745 com to find a location near you. 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I finally that 1:36:51.825 --> 1:36:54.385 sometimes it's really tough for me to do dad jokes anymore. 1:36:54.665 --> 1:36:56.065 Do they have granddad jokes? 1:36:57.185 --> 1:36:59.825 No? I just know that dad jokes rhyme with dad jokes. 1:37:00.145 --> 1:37:03.625 Well that's also very true. All right, So you know, 1:37:03.745 --> 1:37:05.785 let's let's kind of start. The first thing I actually 1:37:05.945 --> 1:37:08.705 start with is non Patriot related, but I guess it 1:37:08.825 --> 1:37:11.505 kind of is, because you know, this team is you know, 1:37:11.905 --> 1:37:14.385 you know, is A is a neighbor in the AFC East. 1:37:14.425 --> 1:37:16.905 But man, the Jets seem to be you know, they 1:37:17.025 --> 1:37:19.145 just can't get out of the way for making news 1:37:19.865 --> 1:37:23.025 that just can't be anything but negative, because you know, 1:37:23.145 --> 1:37:25.785 you fire the coach at mid season. They let the 1:37:25.865 --> 1:37:29.345 GM go today. And now there's reports out there from 1:37:29.425 --> 1:37:34.305 several sources, is that the owner suggested benching Aaron Rodgers 1:37:34.865 --> 1:37:38.025 after the head coach was fired and didn't get what 1:37:38.145 --> 1:37:40.625 he wanted. And so who's running the show? 1:37:42.625 --> 1:37:44.785 Well, to me, it seems like what he Johnson is 1:37:44.865 --> 1:37:48.065 running the show clearly, And I don't know. Here's what 1:37:48.185 --> 1:37:52.505 I don't understand, Okay, And I know, listen, I know 1:37:53.425 --> 1:37:56.025 for some of our media brethren, their favorite game to 1:37:56.065 --> 1:37:57.145 cover is the blame game. 1:37:57.265 --> 1:37:57.465 Yep. 1:37:57.865 --> 1:38:00.185 And they tried to pick one person. And I know 1:38:00.745 --> 1:38:04.185 Aaron Rodgers is an easy target and I'm certainly not 1:38:04.465 --> 1:38:07.985 absolving him of anything that has gone wrong this year, 1:38:08.865 --> 1:38:09.625 But riddle. 1:38:09.465 --> 1:38:09.705 Me, this. 1:38:11.425 --> 1:38:16.665 Was Aaron Rodgers around in twenty ten when the Jets 1:38:16.785 --> 1:38:18.305 last made the playoffs. 1:38:20.065 --> 1:38:24.265 In twenty ten, when they last made the playoffs, that 1:38:24.505 --> 1:38:29.105 was fourteen years ago. Yes, yeah, so he was yeah, yeah, 1:38:29.145 --> 1:38:30.905 he would have been yeah, sure, yeah. 1:38:31.185 --> 1:38:34.585 He was the Super Bowl winning quarterback. 1:38:34.745 --> 1:38:36.345 For Green Bay that year. Yeah, of course. 1:38:36.505 --> 1:38:40.505 Okay, and that year the Packers almost faced the Jets 1:38:41.385 --> 1:38:43.945 in the Super Bowl, right, and if the Jets lost 1:38:43.985 --> 1:38:47.865 to Pittsburgh in the NFC Titlekay, So my point is this, 1:38:48.665 --> 1:38:51.105 and you will you understand this more than anyone else. 1:38:52.065 --> 1:38:55.705 If you're going to finger Jerry Jones for the ineptitude 1:38:55.745 --> 1:38:58.505 in Dallas and the failure to get back to a 1:38:58.545 --> 1:39:02.625 Super Bowl or even an NFC title game since nineteen 1:39:02.745 --> 1:39:08.465 ninety five, nuts, why isn't the finger pointing more at 1:39:08.545 --> 1:39:12.985 the owner of the Jets for the longest active layoffs 1:39:12.985 --> 1:39:14.145 throughout the league. 1:39:14.225 --> 1:39:17.585 No, that's that's fair. That's very fair. So that's kind 1:39:17.625 --> 1:39:20.265 of why I let into it, because it does seem 1:39:20.345 --> 1:39:23.785 like Woody Johnson is He's doing all the string pulling here, 1:39:23.905 --> 1:39:26.945 and for the life of me, I can't imagine. I 1:39:26.985 --> 1:39:28.545 don't know if they even want to, but I can't 1:39:28.585 --> 1:39:30.665 imagine Aaron Rodgers going back to that next year. 1:39:31.105 --> 1:39:34.385 Well here's the other thing too. If Aaron Rodgers is 1:39:34.945 --> 1:39:38.945 doing or has done everything he's been accused of, in 1:39:39.105 --> 1:39:42.665 particular by one media person, and I won't get into 1:39:42.745 --> 1:39:47.425 his name, Okay, if that is true, and I mean 1:39:47.665 --> 1:39:50.905 there's been no source to this whatsoever, it's just pure speculation. 1:39:51.945 --> 1:39:56.065 If he isn't able to do this, john who would 1:39:56.105 --> 1:39:58.265 be the only person to empower him to do that? 1:40:00.985 --> 1:40:01.825 It would be the owner. 1:40:02.025 --> 1:40:04.665 Well, yeah, because he's the one that writes the checks 1:40:04.705 --> 1:40:05.585 and yeah, sure. 1:40:05.625 --> 1:40:11.105 Right exactly, So who's the you just said it? If 1:40:11.225 --> 1:40:14.625 Woody Johnson is indeed running the show and this team 1:40:14.705 --> 1:40:16.865 can't get back to the playoffs in a league where 1:40:17.625 --> 1:40:20.665 everybody gets back to the playoffs for the most part, 1:40:20.705 --> 1:40:24.065 and now Denver's not been there since twenty fifteen. Okay, 1:40:24.305 --> 1:40:26.585 I get that the Raiders haven't won a playoff game 1:40:26.625 --> 1:40:29.785 since two thousand and two. I get all that, but again, 1:40:30.185 --> 1:40:35.105 the longest active drought, numerous head coaches, numerous starting quarterbacks, 1:40:35.985 --> 1:40:38.865 one winning season. They haven't had a winning season since 1:40:38.905 --> 1:40:42.305 twenty fifteen when Todd Bowles was there and they finished 1:40:42.305 --> 1:40:45.865 ten and six but missed the playoffs. So this is 1:40:46.425 --> 1:40:53.265 the miserable stretch. And the idea that this franchise was 1:40:53.385 --> 1:40:57.225 going to bring in one person to save the ship 1:40:58.305 --> 1:41:02.945 is ludicrous because that's never happened. It's never been one 1:41:03.105 --> 1:41:07.705 person come in and save a franchise. Okay, you were 1:41:07.705 --> 1:41:11.945 a better chance of a coach coming in to save 1:41:11.985 --> 1:41:15.585 a franchise than you do a quarterback at defensive end. 1:41:15.985 --> 1:41:18.505 I mean, how many times you remember this? In the 1:41:18.585 --> 1:41:21.585 late eighties, I kept on hearing this, the Minnesota Vikings 1:41:21.625 --> 1:41:24.025 are one player away from getting to the super Bowl. 1:41:24.665 --> 1:41:26.785 Heard that a lot right like. 1:41:27.025 --> 1:41:29.665 Merriweather was a big trade for them. Herschel Walker, we 1:41:29.785 --> 1:41:32.865 know all about that. Well, I'm still waiting for the 1:41:32.945 --> 1:41:34.785 Vikings get back to the super Bowl. They haven't been 1:41:34.785 --> 1:41:37.025 there since ready, nineteen seventy six. 1:41:37.225 --> 1:41:39.665 Crazy, I was a junior in high school. Yeah, so 1:41:39.865 --> 1:41:40.545 was last time. 1:41:40.545 --> 1:41:44.345 They never even appeared in the Super Bowl. Okay, Miami 1:41:44.425 --> 1:41:46.065 hasn't been to Super Bowl in forty years. 1:41:48.505 --> 1:41:48.905 Jesus. 1:41:48.945 --> 1:41:50.905 So the idea that you. 1:41:51.585 --> 1:41:55.185 Can fix things and this isn't just football, this is 1:41:55.785 --> 1:41:59.585 all sports. Okay, maybe even the exception of the NBA 1:41:59.705 --> 1:42:01.545 because they only have five players on the court. I 1:42:01.665 --> 1:42:04.305 understand that, and you'll have a limited roster. But the 1:42:04.425 --> 1:42:08.425 idea that one person is going to come in, you know, 1:42:08.585 --> 1:42:11.865 walk on water, raise his hands and we're going all 1:42:11.905 --> 1:42:14.505 the way, it just doesn't happen. We have seen some 1:42:14.585 --> 1:42:19.545 of the greatest performances in history by an individual and 1:42:21.305 --> 1:42:23.385 they've gone on to win the league MVP that year 1:42:24.585 --> 1:42:30.585 and it doesn't translate. So I always talk about that's 1:42:30.665 --> 1:42:33.105 now only happened one time in fifty eight years that 1:42:33.225 --> 1:42:35.865 a quarterback led the league in passing yards and won 1:42:35.945 --> 1:42:38.025 the Super Bowl the same season. I was actually Patrick 1:42:38.105 --> 1:42:42.585 Mahomes in twenty twenty two. So this is not a 1:42:42.665 --> 1:42:46.385 one man show. It's not a one man fix. But 1:42:46.465 --> 1:42:49.785 you're right, they can't seem to stay out of the 1:42:49.905 --> 1:42:53.705 news as more and more of this gets on the 1:42:53.825 --> 1:42:58.825 earth about what has gone wrong and what is really fascinating, 1:42:59.105 --> 1:43:01.945 and you are I'm not going to again mention names 1:43:02.945 --> 1:43:06.225 of certain people I have worked with, who are in 1:43:06.305 --> 1:43:09.745 the media, who are flat out New York Jets fans, 1:43:11.145 --> 1:43:15.425 and they are calling this the worst season in franchise history. 1:43:15.625 --> 1:43:17.345 It's not. It's not even that. 1:43:17.385 --> 1:43:18.065 Of course it's not. 1:43:18.465 --> 1:43:19.665 They've had a bunch of them. 1:43:20.625 --> 1:43:23.305 Yet there has I remember one in fifteen yea, which 1:43:23.385 --> 1:43:27.225 is pretty awful. Sure, okay, but the fact that they 1:43:27.305 --> 1:43:33.905 are so ingrained and so personally involved in it has 1:43:33.985 --> 1:43:37.305 them saying. I mean, I heard one person say this 1:43:37.505 --> 1:43:42.505 was the most uh disappointing season by a franchise in 1:43:42.585 --> 1:43:47.625 sports history. Now, I wasn't around for the first Olympics, Okay, 1:43:48.305 --> 1:43:50.745 I'm willing to bet there was probably some disappointment there 1:43:52.145 --> 1:43:57.265 probably Okay, no, I mean the craziness, but again, that's 1:43:57.305 --> 1:44:00.385 what we live in. We lived the click fix and 1:44:00.545 --> 1:44:05.065 all that stuff. And meanwhile, let's just talk about the 1:44:05.145 --> 1:44:08.425 teams that are in the playoff mix, because we had 1:44:08.505 --> 1:44:13.025 some craziness last week. We had two we had two 1:44:13.105 --> 1:44:16.865 one point games, we had a two point game, you know, 1:44:16.985 --> 1:44:21.625 Chris Boswell and in Pittsburgh is now Pele, Okay, and 1:44:23.225 --> 1:44:25.305 you know, we had the showdown that the Chiefs are 1:44:25.745 --> 1:44:31.345 not undefeated anymore. The Cowboys are headed south the Lions 1:44:31.625 --> 1:44:33.905 and god forbid they play another ADFC team. 1:44:34.025 --> 1:44:36.465 Yeah, they're totally dominated. Yeah. Right. 1:44:37.145 --> 1:44:39.785 By the way, later in the year they played the Bills. 1:44:40.585 --> 1:44:41.785 Which I'm going to love to see. 1:44:42.185 --> 1:44:45.225 Wow, boy, that's got just fun written all over. 1:44:45.945 --> 1:44:48.785 I'll be honest with you. I really like and I'm 1:44:48.825 --> 1:44:50.785 not saying this to be anti Kansas City at all, 1:44:50.785 --> 1:44:52.905 because I think the Chiefs could Definitely I think they've 1:44:52.905 --> 1:44:54.585 got a legit shot at three pete and I've thought 1:44:54.585 --> 1:44:57.305 that all year long, no matter how much Patriot fans 1:44:57.305 --> 1:45:00.185 don't want to hear that. I would love to see 1:45:00.305 --> 1:45:03.025 a Detroit Buffalo Super Bowl just for the fact that 1:45:03.825 --> 1:45:06.185 somebody's got to win it, and it'll be the first 1:45:06.225 --> 1:45:08.465 time they've ever won it, right and for. 1:45:08.545 --> 1:45:10.705 The Lions, who are the only team in the NFC 1:45:10.905 --> 1:45:14.825 never to go. You know, they haven't won an NFL 1:45:14.945 --> 1:45:18.385 title since nineteen fifty seven, right, which was two years 1:45:18.425 --> 1:45:19.505 before I was even born. 1:45:19.665 --> 1:45:22.345 Same here, same here. So now that I'm going to 1:45:22.385 --> 1:45:23.105 tell you how old. 1:45:23.025 --> 1:45:26.545 We are, right, well, like older than twenty one? 1:45:26.745 --> 1:45:29.225 Yeah, times three? 1:45:30.145 --> 1:45:30.505 Do you know this? 1:45:30.625 --> 1:45:35.305 In the nineteen fifties that the league was dominated by 1:45:35.345 --> 1:45:38.025 two franchises since I've never been to the Super Bowl, 1:45:38.065 --> 1:45:41.225 the Cleveland Browns and the Detroit Lions, right right almost, 1:45:41.305 --> 1:45:43.585 and we played each other for the title. They both 1:45:43.705 --> 1:45:47.385 won three championships in that decade. Now, that's when the 1:45:47.425 --> 1:45:50.785 Browns finally joined the NFL when they were in the A, 1:45:51.185 --> 1:45:54.545 the All America Football Conference, where they dominated all four 1:45:54.625 --> 1:45:59.065 years that was in existence. So but yet a Lion's Bills, 1:46:00.025 --> 1:46:03.665 I can you know? I can you think about this, 1:46:04.225 --> 1:46:08.905 the Lions fan base and Dan Campbell, the Bills and 1:46:08.985 --> 1:46:13.465 their fan base jumping off tables and eating wings in 1:46:14.065 --> 1:46:15.345 the city of New Orleans. 1:46:15.465 --> 1:46:18.425 Yeah, that'll be wild. If you ever go to a 1:46:18.465 --> 1:46:20.305 super Bowl, or ever wanted to go to a super Bowl, 1:46:20.705 --> 1:46:24.185 especially where your team isn't involved, I would say the 1:46:24.505 --> 1:46:27.385 Lions Bills, if it gets to be, that would especially 1:46:27.425 --> 1:46:29.265 in New Orleans, that'd be a good one to go to. 1:46:29.785 --> 1:46:32.385 Right, I had to go off the top of my head, 1:46:33.265 --> 1:46:39.105 and I'll probably get this wrong. The last time two 1:46:39.225 --> 1:46:41.865 teams met in the Super Bowl that neither one of 1:46:41.945 --> 1:46:46.545 them had won one. And it might have been it 1:46:46.785 --> 1:46:49.745 might have been okay, and again I'm gonna get this 1:46:49.865 --> 1:46:52.225 wrong because I'm just doing it to win job here. 1:46:52.985 --> 1:46:54.465 It might have been Patriots Bears. 1:46:56.585 --> 1:46:59.505 Uh yeah, both teams. 1:46:59.785 --> 1:47:02.265 Yeah, Now, the Bears had won NFL championships, they'd never 1:47:02.305 --> 1:47:02.945 been to super. 1:47:02.745 --> 1:47:04.745 Bowl, super Bowl. That's right, that's right. 1:47:04.785 --> 1:47:09.705 Obviously, the Patriots like the member three road wins to 1:47:09.785 --> 1:47:13.065 get to the super Bowl in the playoffs over the Jets, 1:47:13.145 --> 1:47:18.225 over the Raiders, h Matt Millan and where Patrick Sullivan 1:47:18.225 --> 1:47:19.785 won't be having any coffee soon? Is that? 1:47:22.745 --> 1:47:26.065 Do you remember what happened? I remember, Yes, I'm. 1:47:25.985 --> 1:47:26.385 Sure you do. 1:47:26.505 --> 1:47:28.905 And then them going down to Miami, which I think 1:47:28.945 --> 1:47:30.785 they hadn't won a game down and they're like since 1:47:30.825 --> 1:47:33.985 the mid sixties. Yes, and they beat and they ran 1:47:34.145 --> 1:47:36.665 right if they're running game and Sea and that was 1:47:36.705 --> 1:47:38.385 a really opertistic team. 1:47:38.545 --> 1:47:38.905 Correct. 1:47:39.145 --> 1:47:41.945 Again, We're gonna check it after I get off the 1:47:41.985 --> 1:47:43.425 air here with you and said, but it might be 1:47:43.505 --> 1:47:44.465 New England Chicago. 1:47:44.785 --> 1:47:47.785 Yeah, okay, that's a good guess. Anyway, that's a really 1:47:47.825 --> 1:47:48.265 good guess. 1:47:48.585 --> 1:47:51.985 Well, I mean, listen, you know what you know, lack 1:47:52.065 --> 1:47:52.785 of social life? 1:47:54.705 --> 1:47:57.145 All right, all right, well you talk. You mentioned you know, 1:47:57.945 --> 1:48:00.825 teams that are head in the other direction besides the Jets, 1:48:00.905 --> 1:48:03.345 and I look at it. Look at the schedule this week. 1:48:03.585 --> 1:48:05.465 There are four games that I that I've looked at 1:48:05.985 --> 1:48:10.785 that I'd say are potential difference makers for the remainder 1:48:10.825 --> 1:48:13.825 of the season. In other words, it could you or 1:48:13.985 --> 1:48:16.985 let's just say separation games. You could separate the haves 1:48:17.345 --> 1:48:21.185 from the have nots in these games this week, in 1:48:21.265 --> 1:48:24.145 Week twelve in the NFL. You know, it just so 1:48:24.305 --> 1:48:26.305 happens that you have three of them in the NFC. 1:48:26.905 --> 1:48:29.505 One in the AFC. I got forty nine Ers Packers, 1:48:30.385 --> 1:48:32.425 because the forty nine ers are you know, they're teetering, 1:48:32.465 --> 1:48:34.985 they're at five and five overall, I got I got 1:48:35.025 --> 1:48:38.025 the Cardinals and the Seahawks, who you know, Cardinals are 1:48:38.065 --> 1:48:39.745 six and four and maybe a little bit better than 1:48:39.785 --> 1:48:42.505 people give them credit for Seahawks five and five. And 1:48:42.585 --> 1:48:44.785 you got the Eagles and the Rams. And the Rams 1:48:45.265 --> 1:48:47.865 who we just saw this past week. They still look 1:48:47.945 --> 1:48:50.065 mighty potent on offense when they want to be, especially 1:48:50.145 --> 1:48:53.065 when the Patriots, you know, come up with a really 1:48:53.265 --> 1:48:57.185 semi silly game plan defensively that really helped the Rams, 1:48:57.225 --> 1:48:59.265 I think in that game. But you know, both of 1:48:59.345 --> 1:49:01.945 those teams need to win to stay in the hunt. 1:49:02.225 --> 1:49:04.225 And then in the AFC that's the Monday night game 1:49:04.305 --> 1:49:06.345 this next weekend, you got the Ravens at the Chargers 1:49:06.665 --> 1:49:09.905 separation games. Is that an accurate assessment you think? Well? 1:49:10.025 --> 1:49:12.425 I think so well, especially the three you talked about 1:49:12.505 --> 1:49:15.865 on Sunday, John, because they all involved all four af 1:49:16.545 --> 1:49:20.185 NFC West team, which if you haven't seen the standings, 1:49:20.745 --> 1:49:23.465 Arizona is six and four and the other three they're 1:49:23.505 --> 1:49:24.425 all five and five. 1:49:24.625 --> 1:49:24.825 Yeah. 1:49:25.505 --> 1:49:29.265 Okay, so you talked about the forty nine ers teetering. 1:49:29.305 --> 1:49:31.105 I have some pieces coming out in the next couple 1:49:31.145 --> 1:49:35.465 of days about ranking the playoff teams from a year 1:49:35.545 --> 1:49:38.385 ago their playoff chances this year. 1:49:39.025 --> 1:49:39.305 Okay. 1:49:39.425 --> 1:49:43.265 And it's not based on percentages of them getting in. 1:49:43.665 --> 1:49:48.385 It's based on other factors, you know, such as who 1:49:48.585 --> 1:49:51.705 was left on their schedule, not you know, not strength 1:49:51.745 --> 1:49:57.305 to schedule, but the opportunity. For instance, Buffalo is all 1:49:57.385 --> 1:49:59.945 but in the playoffs because of the fact that they've 1:49:59.945 --> 1:50:02.065 won nine games and the rest of the division has 1:50:02.105 --> 1:50:06.625 won ten. Okay, you know, and even though Kansas City 1:50:06.705 --> 1:50:10.825 has the better record, Kansas City, could you know, if 1:50:10.825 --> 1:50:12.665 they drop another game, they could wind up in the 1:50:12.705 --> 1:50:17.025 dogfight in the AFC West because Chargers and the Broncos 1:50:17.105 --> 1:50:18.065 are both above five. 1:50:17.985 --> 1:50:20.945 Hundred yep, charging hard, Yep, absolutely that. 1:50:21.105 --> 1:50:25.425 Meanwhile, Baltimore has already lost as many games as it 1:50:25.505 --> 1:50:29.305 did all last season. They're on the cusp of already 1:50:29.385 --> 1:50:31.545 giving they can up the fewest points in the league 1:50:31.585 --> 1:50:34.905 last year, John two eight, they've given up two seventy 1:50:34.985 --> 1:50:40.105 one already. Yeah, okay, And they have the Chargers this week, 1:50:40.785 --> 1:50:44.865 and they don't have a great record in the conference. 1:50:45.065 --> 1:50:47.225 And that's the kind of stuff. I mean, they're four 1:50:47.305 --> 1:50:50.425 and four in the conference, Okay, so when you start 1:50:50.465 --> 1:50:52.705 getting bunch up. Now, they did beat Denver, which is 1:50:52.785 --> 1:50:57.705 obviously a plus for them, Okay, but they lost to Cleveland. 1:50:57.785 --> 1:51:02.465 They obviously just lost to Pittsburgh. They did beat Buffalo, okay, 1:51:02.585 --> 1:51:04.985 but they lost to the Chiefs. So there's so much 1:51:05.065 --> 1:51:09.705 to solve here. And that Monday night game and we 1:51:09.865 --> 1:51:12.785 just saw the Chargers get out big on Cincinnati, let 1:51:12.865 --> 1:51:16.505 Cincinnati tie the game. Yep, okay, which was funny. The 1:51:16.665 --> 1:51:18.825 Chargers had not given up more than twenty points in 1:51:18.865 --> 1:51:22.105 the game all year. But I don't think they scored 1:51:22.105 --> 1:51:24.185 as many as they did the other night either, so 1:51:24.385 --> 1:51:29.745 which I think speaks volume about the Cincinnati's problems on defense. 1:51:29.825 --> 1:51:33.145 But the end NFC West is really intriguing. Go back 1:51:33.185 --> 1:51:36.065 to the forty nine Ers for a second. This is 1:51:36.105 --> 1:51:39.225 obviously a playoff rematch from a year ago when they 1:51:39.305 --> 1:51:41.585 met in the divisional round. The Niners came back and 1:51:41.665 --> 1:51:46.185 beat them twenty four to twenty one. Sure, San Francisco 1:51:47.505 --> 1:51:50.265 is one in three within their own division. 1:51:52.505 --> 1:51:54.865 Man, Okay, yeah, you got to win it. Yeah. 1:51:54.985 --> 1:51:58.225 They lost the Seattle, they lost the Rams, they lost 1:51:58.265 --> 1:52:01.865 the Seattle at home, and he lost Arizona at home. Okay, 1:52:02.505 --> 1:52:05.425 So now we're just starting to thinking about and I 1:52:05.545 --> 1:52:09.145 know seven teams make it in each conference, but you know, 1:52:09.305 --> 1:52:12.745 here's another conference game for the forty nine ers. I 1:52:12.785 --> 1:52:14.985 think it would. I think it would surprise people to 1:52:15.105 --> 1:52:18.185 know you're ready for this jump. The Niners are two 1:52:18.225 --> 1:52:20.385 and five versus NFC teams. 1:52:20.745 --> 1:52:24.505 Jeez wow, So they've been feeding on AFC teams. That's crazy. 1:52:24.705 --> 1:52:29.865 Yeah, they're you know, they're doing okay against the A 1:52:30.225 --> 1:52:36.465 see okay, but that's not a good sign when you're 1:52:36.505 --> 1:52:38.905 starting to get down to this time of the year 1:52:39.065 --> 1:52:43.865 in terms of tiebreakers and so on. So another conference 1:52:43.985 --> 1:52:47.505 loss would drop them to five and six and then 1:52:48.065 --> 1:52:53.505 about two and six in the conference. And that's so 1:52:53.625 --> 1:52:57.345 when you say what you said about the Sunday games 1:52:57.385 --> 1:52:59.985 and so on, you couldn't be more spot on. And 1:53:00.425 --> 1:53:03.465 we'll see what happens with Seattle. Seattle's reeling. I know 1:53:03.545 --> 1:53:05.305 they came back and won the game the other day, 1:53:05.945 --> 1:53:08.305 but up before that day had lost what five or 1:53:08.385 --> 1:53:10.465 six after their three and oh start. They're still a 1:53:10.585 --> 1:53:13.945 very erratic team. They've got a first time NFL head coach, 1:53:14.465 --> 1:53:16.705 so it's going to be very interesting to see. And 1:53:16.785 --> 1:53:22.625 again Monday night the Chargers, who should be able to 1:53:22.665 --> 1:53:25.865 take advantage of that Baltimore defense. I know Baltimore didn't 1:53:25.905 --> 1:53:28.305 give up a touchdown last week, but of course they 1:53:28.345 --> 1:53:31.104 also turned over the ball three times against Stewarts. Pittsburgh 1:53:31.985 --> 1:53:35.465 somewhat has Lamar Jackson's number for lack of lack of 1:53:35.505 --> 1:53:38.265 a better word. But there's so much pressure on that 1:53:38.385 --> 1:53:42.665 Baltimore defense or Baltimore offense now because the defense has 1:53:42.745 --> 1:53:45.105 been and it's not really a shock if you look 1:53:45.145 --> 1:53:47.705 at the off season this year and how much they 1:53:47.865 --> 1:53:51.425 lost on that. You know, Patrick Queen went to the Steelers, 1:53:51.505 --> 1:53:55.145 Gino Stone Pro Bowl Safety went to the Bengals to 1:53:55.305 --> 1:54:00.625 Davian Clowney left, their coordinator left. So as much as 1:54:00.745 --> 1:54:03.425 they have Derrick Henry and Lamar Jackson, they're piling up 1:54:03.465 --> 1:54:08.145 big numbers. Okay, it's it's been a different story on 1:54:08.225 --> 1:54:09.785 the other side of the ball for them, and it's 1:54:10.185 --> 1:54:12.905 it's not really a Ravens team who were used to seeing. 1:54:12.905 --> 1:54:14.385 Right, No, it's not. 1:54:15.065 --> 1:54:15.185 Uh. 1:54:15.625 --> 1:54:18.145 I want to ask you obviously about the Patriots and 1:54:18.385 --> 1:54:22.265 the Dolphins you know, this week, but you know, overall, 1:54:22.345 --> 1:54:26.905 before I get to that point, what are your No, 1:54:27.185 --> 1:54:30.025 I've lost my computer, just Frozier, I had a question 1:54:30.265 --> 1:54:33.225 for you and I just I just lost it. It figures, right, 1:54:34.145 --> 1:54:36.785 old age doesn't help you sometimes, but when your computer 1:54:36.905 --> 1:54:38.745 fails you you're completely lost. 1:54:38.585 --> 1:54:41.665 Nowadays, right, the answer is to get to the other side. 1:54:44.665 --> 1:54:46.985 Listen, this chicken ain't going anywhere, trust me. 1:54:48.185 --> 1:54:48.905 It's to listen. 1:54:49.305 --> 1:54:50.385 That's always the fallback. 1:54:50.505 --> 1:54:52.505 Just like if you can't get somebody's phone number, you 1:54:52.705 --> 1:54:54.945 just say eight six seven real. 1:54:54.945 --> 1:54:58.385 Nine, Yes, exactly right, Jenny, Jenny, who can I turn to? 1:54:58.665 --> 1:55:00.425 All right, let's go ahead and get to the Dolphins 1:55:00.465 --> 1:55:05.305 and the Patriots. You know the it's run on the 1:55:05.345 --> 1:55:07.625 tip of my tongue too, and my computers is not 1:55:07.665 --> 1:55:11.105 helping me here. Okay. So at any rate, last week, 1:55:11.225 --> 1:55:14.945 what we saw with the Patriots against the Rams, and 1:55:15.025 --> 1:55:17.505 I think the Rams kind of figured themselves out a 1:55:17.545 --> 1:55:20.865 little bit more. The Patriots didn't adjust as to what 1:55:21.105 --> 1:55:24.505 we thought they might adjust. The Dolphins, this team, you know, 1:55:24.665 --> 1:55:26.545 has certainly had it over the Patriots over the last 1:55:26.545 --> 1:55:28.905 few years. Might be Daniel Tool We know that, you know, 1:55:28.985 --> 1:55:32.025 he you know, has had great success in his young 1:55:32.105 --> 1:55:35.145 pro career against New England. But now the Dolphins have 1:55:35.305 --> 1:55:39.025 something legitimately to play for. They need to continue to 1:55:39.105 --> 1:55:41.225 win because they've got a bit of a pathway to 1:55:41.345 --> 1:55:44.185 a potential playoff spot. And I'm just wondering if you 1:55:44.305 --> 1:55:47.705 think that really matters in the overall scheme of things, 1:55:47.865 --> 1:55:51.105 especially with the Dolphins really still being an imperfect team. 1:55:52.545 --> 1:55:55.825 Oh, I say question about it. Listen, they went through 1:55:56.065 --> 1:56:01.825 not having two to Tagolowa for four games. They've had 1:56:01.865 --> 1:56:04.865 a problem as of late, especially the last four games. 1:56:04.865 --> 1:56:06.825 They've given up at least two hundred yards of offense 1:56:06.985 --> 1:56:07.745 in the second half. 1:56:07.825 --> 1:56:07.985 Yeah. 1:56:08.065 --> 1:56:11.585 Yeah, but they've managed that. They did something they hadn't 1:56:11.585 --> 1:56:13.425 done all year last year, John, they won two games 1:56:13.465 --> 1:56:18.065 in a row. And listen, they've got some rough spots ahead. Okay, 1:56:18.225 --> 1:56:22.265 they have a obviously this week. And I'm not going 1:56:22.345 --> 1:56:24.025 to say it's not easy to sweep a team, because 1:56:24.065 --> 1:56:26.265 we know contrary, it's easier to sweep than it is 1:56:26.345 --> 1:56:28.985 to split, especially when you beat the team seven at 1:56:29.025 --> 1:56:33.865 eight times, like they have the Patriots. So they're trying 1:56:33.945 --> 1:56:35.785 to crawl their way back. I mean, I posed this 1:56:35.905 --> 1:56:38.705 question a couple of weeks ago that could we see 1:56:38.745 --> 1:56:42.105 an eight to nine team in the AFC, because you know, 1:56:42.345 --> 1:56:44.625 and now we have seven winning teams because what at 1:56:44.665 --> 1:56:47.065 Denver did to Atlanta last week, and then the Chargers 1:56:47.105 --> 1:56:50.425 et cetera, et cetera, so yeah, they obviously. Now I 1:56:50.585 --> 1:56:54.985 do know they have to go to Green Bay on 1:56:55.545 --> 1:56:59.825 Thanksgiving night, yep. And I don't even know what the 1:57:00.105 --> 1:57:01.905 temperature is going to be, but I'm guessing it's not 1:57:02.025 --> 1:57:06.065 going to be seventy five. Yes, okay, And you know, 1:57:06.105 --> 1:57:07.745 I'm not going to get into the whole numbers about 1:57:07.745 --> 1:57:09.665 them playing in cold weather and so on. But that's 1:57:09.665 --> 1:57:13.265 a tall task for anyone is to go up there 1:57:14.185 --> 1:57:17.545 at lambeau Field, except if you're a team in the division. 1:57:17.705 --> 1:57:21.265 Because one of the things that has Green Bay a 1:57:21.345 --> 1:57:24.985 little behind the eight ball, and they're seven to three, 1:57:25.225 --> 1:57:29.105 as you know, but they lost it home to both 1:57:29.185 --> 1:57:33.785 Detroit and Minute two divisional home losses. Now they beat 1:57:33.825 --> 1:57:36.545 the Bears in Chicago last week. That kind of even 1:57:36.625 --> 1:57:39.345 things out. But you know, this could be one of 1:57:39.425 --> 1:57:42.625 these year or someone you see in like an eight 1:57:42.665 --> 1:57:45.425 to nine or nine and eight in the AFC, and 1:57:45.545 --> 1:57:49.625 maybe someone in the NFC wins ten games and doesn't 1:57:49.665 --> 1:57:49.865 make it. 1:57:50.105 --> 1:57:52.545 Yeah, yeah, I can see that. That's and that's part 1:57:52.545 --> 1:57:54.105 of the reason why I went that direction, because I 1:57:54.185 --> 1:57:57.265 know that the Dolphins, anything short of the playoffs, that's 1:57:57.305 --> 1:57:59.225 going to be a miserable disappointment for a team that 1:57:59.385 --> 1:58:02.505 so much was expected of before this season started. I mean, 1:58:02.505 --> 1:58:05.145 they were actually I think kind of considered a division favorite, 1:58:05.665 --> 1:58:07.145 with all due respect to the Bills. But over the 1:58:07.225 --> 1:58:09.025 year started, and of course then Tua got you know, 1:58:09.145 --> 1:58:11.545 his his block almost knocked off, and then you know, 1:58:11.625 --> 1:58:14.625 they've had some other injury issues and teams have adjusted 1:58:14.705 --> 1:58:17.585 and and I don't know if Mike McDaniel really deserves 1:58:17.625 --> 1:58:19.145 the heat or if he's just trying to kind of 1:58:19.225 --> 1:58:21.905 learn on his own because he's a young coach. But 1:58:22.465 --> 1:58:24.825 they need to win this game. If they lose this 1:58:24.945 --> 1:58:28.665 game to New England, that could have far reaching repercussions 1:58:28.705 --> 1:58:29.465 for this franchise. 1:58:30.145 --> 1:58:31.945 I don't think there's any question about it. And they're 1:58:31.985 --> 1:58:36.185 going to already need help obviously to get in And 1:58:36.625 --> 1:58:39.945 you know, Denver's sitting at six and five, and the 1:58:40.105 --> 1:58:42.705 game that could wind up really coming back and haunting 1:58:43.545 --> 1:58:46.105 Miami is that lost in Indianapolis. 1:58:46.225 --> 1:58:46.425 Yeah. 1:58:47.145 --> 1:58:50.185 Now the Colts are five and six, Okay, So if 1:58:50.225 --> 1:58:52.585 it's a two team tie breaker and it's head to head, 1:58:52.665 --> 1:58:56.345 the Colts would go in place of the Dolphins. Now, 1:58:57.185 --> 1:58:59.545 you know, I'm not going to try and project, but 1:59:00.185 --> 1:59:04.665 the Colts play the Lions this week. Okay, and that's 1:59:04.905 --> 1:59:08.145 that could be more like the Lions versus the Christians, 1:59:08.505 --> 1:59:11.385 except for the instead of the Lions versus the Colts. 1:59:12.825 --> 1:59:15.265 As I was pointing out and something I'm writing this week, 1:59:15.665 --> 1:59:19.145 the Lions have played three teams in the AFC South 1:59:20.025 --> 1:59:22.145 and a score to combine one hundred and thirty points. 1:59:23.545 --> 1:59:24.865 Well could grief. 1:59:25.465 --> 1:59:29.065 They put fifty two up on Tennessee, they put fifty 1:59:29.105 --> 1:59:32.745 two up on Jackson Bill right, and twenty six against 1:59:33.865 --> 1:59:35.465 the Texans when they were way down. 1:59:35.905 --> 1:59:37.345 John, I know you know this. 1:59:38.105 --> 1:59:40.185 The Lions had six hundred and forty five yards of 1:59:40.225 --> 1:59:43.065 total offense. I had to look at it twice. I 1:59:43.105 --> 1:59:44.225 thought it was Michigan State. 1:59:44.545 --> 1:59:46.905 Yeah right, that's crazy. 1:59:47.465 --> 1:59:49.865 Six hundred yards of offense is not something you see 1:59:49.905 --> 1:59:52.225 in an NFL game, No you don't. 1:59:52.265 --> 1:59:54.265 But they're capable. That's why I love the Lions. I 1:59:54.305 --> 1:59:56.465 think the Lions are very entertaining football team. 1:59:57.185 --> 1:59:58.505 Yes. Oh, and by the way, I have to go 1:59:58.585 --> 2:00:01.305 back and correct myself. The Niners are not two and 2:00:01.425 --> 2:00:03.305 five in the conference. They're actually three and four. 2:00:03.425 --> 2:00:04.505 Three and four s okay. 2:00:04.625 --> 2:00:06.465 They have a losing record in the conference. 2:00:06.465 --> 2:00:07.945 They're teetering and the lost. 2:00:07.785 --> 2:00:11.345 The Green Bed could really set that one in three 2:00:11.465 --> 2:00:16.585 divisional record is mystifying because of how good they've been 2:00:17.065 --> 2:00:19.705 against their NFC West rivals the last two or three 2:00:19.785 --> 2:00:22.385 years and the fact that they lost two of those 2:00:22.425 --> 2:00:24.745 games at home. Now, I know it's it's been a 2:00:24.825 --> 2:00:27.745 battered roster, and you know, Christian McCaffrey just got back, 2:00:27.825 --> 2:00:31.345 But watching Seattle drives the field on them rate in 2:00:31.385 --> 2:00:36.665 the game, Gino Smith and Seattle's got some offensive talent. 2:00:37.385 --> 2:00:39.865 Watching them drive the field was very much like Arizona 2:00:39.985 --> 2:00:41.505 did to get the game winning field. 2:00:41.265 --> 2:00:44.025 Goal about a month ago, right for sure? Hey, Russell, 2:00:44.065 --> 2:00:46.465 I remembered what it was. I was going to ask you, Okay, 2:00:46.865 --> 2:00:48.945 it was about the Steelers. How the hell are they 2:00:48.985 --> 2:00:49.425 eighting two? 2:00:51.785 --> 2:00:56.745 Because they have found ways to win on offense, on defense, 2:00:56.865 --> 2:00:58.025 and special teams. 2:00:59.105 --> 2:01:01.745 All three phases of the game, right exactly? 2:01:01.865 --> 2:01:05.665 Okay, In fact, I was just writing, and again, who 2:01:05.745 --> 2:01:09.305 knows what's going to happen? Last year, Chris Boswell was 2:01:09.825 --> 2:01:12.945 twenty nine out of thirty one for the season in 2:01:12.985 --> 2:01:14.545 field goals. That's pretty good, wouldn't you say? 2:01:14.945 --> 2:01:17.625 Yes, Absolutely, no question about it. 2:01:18.465 --> 2:01:20.825 In ten games? Is yuear he's already twenty nine out 2:01:20.825 --> 2:01:25.785 of thirty. Okay, now I bring that up because the 2:01:25.945 --> 2:01:29.545 NFL record for field goals in the season, any idea, Yeah? 2:01:30.545 --> 2:01:33.105 No, wait, no, no, I don't. 2:01:33.145 --> 2:01:35.545 Actually, I'll give you a hint. It was with a 2:01:35.665 --> 2:01:40.225 guy who was more known for one team, and then 2:01:40.265 --> 2:01:42.425 he wound up going to another team and he kicked 2:01:42.505 --> 2:01:45.905 forty four field goals okay in twenty eleven. 2:01:46.145 --> 2:01:50.785 Yep, with David Acres Acres. Wow. Yeah, okay. 2:01:51.585 --> 2:01:53.585 Ors Boomer used to call them David Greenacres. 2:01:53.625 --> 2:01:57.385 Yeah, Greenacres, which is a good nickname. Yeah, Russell. I 2:01:57.425 --> 2:02:00.825 appreciate you as always. We won't be here next week 2:02:00.905 --> 2:02:04.905 the day before Thanksgiving because I'll be an assignment on 2:02:04.985 --> 2:02:07.825 the road for college basketball duties. So I'm gonna wish 2:02:07.865 --> 2:02:10.825 you and yours a very happy Thanksgiving and we'll try 2:02:10.905 --> 2:02:14.225 to we'll reconnect two weeks from today if that works for. 2:02:14.305 --> 2:02:16.665 You, Lulie. And I've said this on your show for 2:02:16.705 --> 2:02:19.265 I think for all twenty three or twenty four years. 2:02:19.865 --> 2:02:22.825 If you're betting on Thanksgiving, take me and. 2:02:22.945 --> 2:02:28.345 The over, yes, sir, Yes, sir, I will totally concur 2:02:28.465 --> 2:02:30.905 with that one. Thanks buddy. I always appreciate you. 2:02:32.025 --> 2:02:33.065 You too, have a good day. 2:02:33.225 --> 2:02:36.185 Thanks you too. The one and only Russell S Baxter 2:02:36.345 --> 2:02:39.225 at Backs Football Guru on X get all of his 2:02:39.305 --> 2:02:40.985 stuff on fans side and that's where he puts all 2:02:41.025 --> 2:02:43.625 of his work out there a couple of emails that 2:02:43.705 --> 2:02:45.865 I wanted to read real quick before we wrap up 2:02:45.905 --> 2:02:48.185 the show. I'm just kind of looking here. People are 2:02:48.265 --> 2:02:52.665 looking for the you know, the the newsletter that Fred's 2:02:52.665 --> 2:02:54.665 putting out and out, so they're putting their emails out here. 2:02:54.705 --> 2:02:56.625 I want to wed through it a bit. Here's one 2:02:56.745 --> 2:02:59.145 that comes from Daniel who says, guys, feels like a 2:02:59.185 --> 2:03:01.785 lot of the Patriots defensive lapses are stemmed from problems 2:03:01.825 --> 2:03:04.985 with schematics and matchups. Why is Tavai even matched up 2:03:05.025 --> 2:03:07.505 with Nikua once during the game. Is that something the 2:03:07.585 --> 2:03:09.625 Rams are doing or something that DeMarcus coming and is 2:03:09.625 --> 2:03:13.145 failing to see It's honestly, I'm thinking it's a little 2:03:13.185 --> 2:03:14.945 of both. To be honest with you, I don't think 2:03:14.985 --> 2:03:17.545 he's failing to see it. I think that, you know, 2:03:17.665 --> 2:03:19.625 this is something they wanted to try to see if 2:03:19.745 --> 2:03:23.265 they could get it to work. It clearly didn't. My 2:03:23.385 --> 2:03:25.065 biggest issue, and I mentioned this at the top of 2:03:25.105 --> 2:03:31.385 the show failure to adjust or not failure, yeah, but 2:03:31.505 --> 2:03:38.425 at least slow to adjust, not recognizing enough to adjust, 2:03:39.065 --> 2:03:42.345 or stubbornness to stay. You know what it is you're doing. 2:03:43.065 --> 2:03:44.865 I guess you could describe it in any way that 2:03:45.065 --> 2:03:49.505 you know that suits you. But I just I didn't see. 2:03:50.625 --> 2:03:55.825 I didn't see. I just didn't see any adjustment. Just 2:03:55.865 --> 2:03:59.625 didn't see an adjustment. This one I wanted to read 2:03:59.665 --> 2:04:01.665 real quick because it has my name in it, Tyler 2:04:01.785 --> 2:04:04.945 from Ludlow. It says the twenty twenty four Patriots Thanksgiving 2:04:05.025 --> 2:04:07.985 Dinner Awards below our awards to be given by John Rook, 2:04:08.025 --> 2:04:11.745 the Patriots player the best match the dish descriptions for 2:04:11.865 --> 2:04:16.105 the twenty fourth season. Did you see this one? Marine? Okay? 2:04:16.585 --> 2:04:19.305 He says. An example his Grandma's green bean castrole. Grandma 2:04:19.425 --> 2:04:21.705 took the year off from cooking after this being a 2:04:21.825 --> 2:04:24.425 dependable dish every year, and you miss it now that 2:04:24.505 --> 2:04:26.505 it's gone. And a player that might receive this award 2:04:26.785 --> 2:04:30.625 is Matt Judhan. Mom's mashed potatoes is dependable as it gets. 2:04:30.945 --> 2:04:33.505 They rarely let you down, but are not the main 2:04:33.625 --> 2:04:36.625 course that everyone will be raving about. Burnt dinner rolls. 2:04:36.905 --> 2:04:39.185 You were disappointed overall, but you just have to throw 2:04:39.265 --> 2:04:39.905 them away. 2:04:39.705 --> 2:04:40.225 And move on. 2:04:40.985 --> 2:04:43.465 Baked mac and Cheese. This dish is new to the table, 2:04:43.705 --> 2:04:45.745 but it's a welcome edition that you hope to see 2:04:45.785 --> 2:04:49.465 annually for years to come. And Cousin Bird's Brussels sprouts. 2:04:49.505 --> 2:04:52.705 Cousin Bird must have a cooking class, because last year 2:04:52.745 --> 2:04:55.985 this dish was just meh. But Thashier has improved greatly 2:04:56.505 --> 2:04:59.625 and smoked turkey the show stopper, the MVP of the meal. 2:05:00.305 --> 2:05:03.625 All right, if I've got to give awards burnt Grandma's 2:05:03.665 --> 2:05:06.945 green bee castrole, I'll go with Jude on mom smashed potatoes, 2:05:07.745 --> 2:05:17.225 dependable as it gets. I gotta dependable Christian Gonzales because 2:05:17.265 --> 2:05:20.625 he's good and so were Mom smashed potatoes. By the way, 2:05:21.225 --> 2:05:23.785 Burnt dinner rolls. Disappointed overall, you have to throw them 2:05:23.825 --> 2:05:27.265 away and move on. I could get in trouble with this. 2:05:30.225 --> 2:05:33.225 Jalen Polk Baked mac and Cheese. This dish is new 2:05:33.265 --> 2:05:34.865 to the table, but is a welcome edition that you 2:05:34.945 --> 2:05:38.105 hope to see annually for years to come. Drake may 2:05:39.225 --> 2:05:42.785 first name that pops into mind, right, Okay, Cousin Burt's 2:05:42.785 --> 2:05:45.385 Brussels sprouts cousin Burt must have taken a cooking class, 2:05:45.585 --> 2:05:48.585 because last year this dish was just this year is 2:05:48.625 --> 2:05:59.265 greatly improved. Keishan BOUDI smoke Turkey, the show stopper, MVP 2:05:59.385 --> 2:06:02.625 of the meal. Ah Drake's gonna get a second one 2:06:02.665 --> 2:06:04.985 on that one. What do you think? How'd I do? 2:06:06.025 --> 2:06:09.905 Is it? Okay? Mareen? Hey? Really good email? Okay, really 2:06:09.945 --> 2:06:12.505 good email? Thank you, Dan, appreciate that. Appreciate the thought, 2:06:12.545 --> 2:06:15.985 all right. Our thanks to our thanks to Russell Baxter, 2:06:16.105 --> 2:06:19.985 our thanks to Doug Kaide, Easy Lazar, Evan Lazar and 2:06:20.145 --> 2:06:23.545 Chris Perkins from the Foul Florida Sun Centinel for joining 2:06:23.625 --> 2:06:25.945 us of the program today. As I mentioned a little 2:06:25.945 --> 2:06:30.025 bit earlier to Russell, no show next Wednesday because I'll 2:06:30.025 --> 2:06:34.345 be away on college basketball duty. So but we will 2:06:34.465 --> 2:06:37.985 have programming here on Patriots dot Com at Patriots dot 2:06:38.025 --> 2:06:41.305 Com Radio to preview the Colts game next week. Then 2:06:41.425 --> 2:06:44.625 I'll be back in time from you know, my sojourn 2:06:44.705 --> 2:06:46.945 for the game on Sunday, and then we'll recap the 2:06:47.025 --> 2:06:49.665 Colts and talk about the bye week two weeks from today. 2:06:49.905 --> 2:06:53.105 That'll be our next live edition of the Patriots Playbook. 2:06:53.145 --> 2:06:56.065 So that's what we'll have and when we'll have it. 2:06:56.425 --> 2:07:00.145 Happy Thanksgiving to all who celebrate. 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