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<v Speaker 2>Welcome into Part two of the podcast with Nick Right.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the NFL views the sports world differently. So

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<v Speaker 2>we all know that big eat small, right, They're just

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<v Speaker 2>in business big eat small. Like at some point Fox

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<v Speaker 2>is like, we can't build the scale to compete with

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<v Speaker 2>Disney and Netflix. We're going to sell a big chunk

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<v Speaker 2>of our business off. By the way, they took Disney

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<v Speaker 2>for a ride. They got about eighty billion dollars for

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<v Speaker 2>a movie business that wasn't worth anything, and the twenty

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<v Speaker 2>billion dollars for the regional sports network that was worth

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<v Speaker 2>a nickel about a.

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<v Speaker 1>Year later, but.

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<v Speaker 2>The NFL has now scheduled another Christmas Day game. So

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<v Speaker 2>there was always sort of a gentleman's agreement in sports.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you get Opening Day in baseball and the

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<v Speaker 2>NBA gets Christmas Day, and then you know the NFL

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<v Speaker 2>is going to dominate certain things in the fall. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I for the record, I've always believed, and I've thought

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<v Speaker 2>this forever, that the NBA would be much better served

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<v Speaker 2>starting two days after the Monday after Thanksgiving, the Wednesday

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<v Speaker 2>after Thanksgiving. Monday Tuesday is football talk from the weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>Then Wednesday's a dead day, and that sports calendar NBA

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<v Speaker 2>starts a month later plays into early July because those

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<v Speaker 2>it's wide open and then so I've always thought the

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<v Speaker 2>NBA's got their schedule, they should just move it a

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<v Speaker 2>month later on both ends beginning and end. But it

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<v Speaker 2>is interesting now kind of the pitbull attack mantra of

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL. I think they see weakness, see I think

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<v Speaker 2>they see Steph and Lebron getting older. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>that marketing Day on Christmas was a real thing. It

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<v Speaker 2>was an introduction, as we're all home to the NBA.

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<v Speaker 2>They put the biggest games, the biggest Stars and it

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<v Speaker 2>was sort of their free marketing day and I think

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL had not that they were getting huge ratings,

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<v Speaker 2>but they were the biggest regular season game, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think the NFL sees weakness. I think they watched the

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<v Speaker 2>NBA during BLM and COVID, you know, lose some viewers

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<v Speaker 2>for you know, maybe positioning marketing on that stumble a little.

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<v Speaker 2>Perhaps you can see some ratings erosion there. And then

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<v Speaker 2>Lebron and Steph are getting older, the game's getting more

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more European, and it's it's interest like

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<v Speaker 2>the gloves are off. It feels like to me, the

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<v Speaker 2>NFL said we're going to squeeze you, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I I think, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>And I do believe that's a tipping point. That Christmas

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<v Speaker 2>Day mattered a lot to the NBA, and those NFL

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<v Speaker 2>games put a blanket over it.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's there's two angles of this. One is what

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<v Speaker 1>it means for the NBA, and it's terrible for the NBA.

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<v Speaker 1>The opening day in the NBA is fine, but it

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<v Speaker 1>used to then have it used to have Christmas Day

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<v Speaker 1>is a big day that's going away. The All Star

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<v Speaker 1>Game Now it's like a nobody gives a shit about

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<v Speaker 1>that joke. And then and now the NBA, both professional

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<v Speaker 1>and collegiate basketball, at this point in this country, seemed

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<v Speaker 1>to be moving towards we really love your postseason and

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of it, take it or leave it. Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think it is bad for the NBA in

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<v Speaker 1>that regard. I also think, and this is where we

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<v Speaker 1>might disagree long term, I think this is a massive

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<v Speaker 1>strategic error by the NFL. And here's why. I think

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<v Speaker 1>one of the secrets to the NFL's success it is

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<v Speaker 1>all of us, and I don't mean media just we

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<v Speaker 1>are in a different spot because it's literally our job.

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<v Speaker 1>But everyone that loves football has convinced all of their

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<v Speaker 1>loved ones, spouses, children, whatever, who don't love football that

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<v Speaker 1>the games are unmissible like it is. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>about you. I think most of your listeners at this

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<v Speaker 1>point they don't even get shipped from their significant others.

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<v Speaker 1>When my team is playing a NFL game, they know

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<v Speaker 1>I am out of commission. I am watching. It is mandatory.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to a weddit correct? We will. We

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<v Speaker 1>won't schedule our own events. We won't, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean? No one's gonna ask me to take my

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<v Speaker 1>kid to the birthday party. That no the okay. So

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<v Speaker 1>here's why I think it's a mistake. It's the same

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<v Speaker 1>reason I thought that putting on Christmas Eve that Bill's

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<v Speaker 1>Chargers game on an app was a mistake, because it's

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas Eve and it's on an app, and people are

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna miss it, and the moment it starts being

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<v Speaker 1>and Christmas Day, they put a Raiders game at one

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<v Speaker 1>pm Christmas. Those fans are on the West Coast. That's

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<v Speaker 1>ten am, that's Christmas morning. So there were a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of Raider fans who just missed the game. Here's why

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<v Speaker 1>it matters. Now your significant other or your kid, or

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<v Speaker 1>whomever says you can miss you missed the other. It

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<v Speaker 1>was fine, you watched it later, you caught up. As

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<v Speaker 1>soon as it becomes the if the inventory becomes so

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<v Speaker 1>ubiquitous and that you put it on days where people

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<v Speaker 1>are going to miss, and Christmas people are gonna miss

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<v Speaker 1>some Thursday, right, then all of a sudden, it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to watch every game. You thought you did,

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<v Speaker 1>but you don't. And even if you still think you do,

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<v Speaker 1>your wife or your significant other, it's like you do

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<v Speaker 1>not have to watch every game. I know it because

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<v Speaker 1>we were at Aunt Margaret's house on Christmas. Even you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't watch it and you were fine. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>long term, I think it's a mistake. I'm the only

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<v Speaker 1>person that thinks this. I understand the ratings are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be massive, but I think there has been a

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<v Speaker 1>I think all of us, especially as they've added a

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<v Speaker 1>seventeenth game, like I whisper, I don't want my kids

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<v Speaker 1>to hear it, so I don't I have to hear it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I cover the sport. I could probably miss a

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<v Speaker 1>game or two and be okay. But they don't think that.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, no, it's daddy's watching football. Don't bother them.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yes, it's worked. But all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>you put games on Christmas, they're gonna be missed. Like now,

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<v Speaker 1>I watched the Chiefs. It was my team played at

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<v Speaker 1>one BM on Christmas. And that's the other thing that

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<v Speaker 1>was also the worst dude, that was the Raiders game.

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<v Speaker 1>Just a disaster. I mean, we haven't didn't lose sense,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, super Bowl champions, but uh, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>like I didn't love it because here's the difference. NBA

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<v Speaker 1>is watched passively. Yes, even on Christmas, Like even the

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas Day games, it's in the background, it's on and

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<v Speaker 1>then oh it's close with five minutes of them sit

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<v Speaker 1>down and watch. I don't know how to watch football passively.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't come in and out of the room and

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<v Speaker 1>be like, that's just not how my brain works with football.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just don't. I don't. And it's on a Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't love the Christmas Day thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the rule changes the NFL did I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to bang on the league. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas Day thing's a little greedy. I don't love it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it's short sighted.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah no, I don't disagree. I you know, it's I

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<v Speaker 2>tend to I don't know if this is selfish or not.

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<v Speaker 2>I tend to look at the sports calendar and I

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<v Speaker 2>see everything through the eyes of what does it do

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<v Speaker 2>for the production of my show and my staff. So

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<v Speaker 2>when they talked about eighteen games and that's gonna happen,

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<v Speaker 2>they'll add a second bye week, Well, the season will end,

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<v Speaker 2>the staff will go dark for a week, everybody gets vacation.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll come back, we'll be right into free agency in

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<v Speaker 2>the final twenty games of the NBA season. So for me,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh, I get rid of two dead weeks

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<v Speaker 2>of sports talk. But you know, one of the things, like,

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<v Speaker 2>for instance, college basketball is a prime example. I can

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely be fascinated with something for three weeks and nothing more.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think it's it's the sports brain. Like college basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>This next weekend, Gonzaga Perdue will not miss it. These

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<v Speaker 2>big games this weekend will not miss it. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think the of college basketball is great, but I like

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<v Speaker 2>the Mardi Gras field, that the annual party.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen every It's cliche and it's the only time anyone

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<v Speaker 1>ever uses this specific word is with college sports. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's the right word. The pageantry of it is something, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>like the students and the band and all of it.

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<v Speaker 1>It is it. It overcomes the fact that I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure this team shoots thirty six percent on

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<v Speaker 1>open shots. Like I'm like, I am pretty like this

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<v Speaker 1>is not good. No, but it is entertaining. But you're right,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel totally fine parachuting in Yes, like the I

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<v Speaker 1>don't pretend to act like I'm a college basketball expert.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not and I came into the tournament, I'm like, eh,

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<v Speaker 1>I used to live in Houston. I like the coach,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll root for them, and other than that, I'll root

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<v Speaker 1>for underdogs because it's fun. I'll root against Yukon because

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<v Speaker 1>it'll cause Wild's pain, and then that'll just be it,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, and then I'm into it. And the

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<v Speaker 1>women's game has stars that I that I'm into. But

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need to have a year long investment, That's right,

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't well.

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<v Speaker 2>And the other thing is I had a four team

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<v Speaker 2>parlay in college basketball last week, my first one of

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<v Speaker 2>the year, and people are like, you don't you don't

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<v Speaker 2>really follow the sport, and I'm like, it's math. Just

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<v Speaker 2>look at certain numbers in the bat like I just

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<v Speaker 2>made another four team. Or today Billy Bean didn't watch

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<v Speaker 2>the A's play. Jerry West would not watch all the

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<v Speaker 2>Lakers play. You start watching too much of anything, you

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<v Speaker 2>get so viscerally emotionally distraught and connected, you make bad bets.

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<v Speaker 2>I've said this about the NFL. The red zone is perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>The red zone gives me the great moments. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>overthink football. Then I can go look at stuff when

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<v Speaker 2>I make my blazing five picks. I can just look

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<v Speaker 2>at numbers that are important, third down numbers that I

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<v Speaker 2>worry about. How do you close, how do you start?

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<v Speaker 2>How much do you run the weather, And it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't need to me. There is no proof that

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<v Speaker 2>watching every Oregon game make me a better Oregon better.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like saying, Oh, it's like saying, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>more you drive, the better driver you are. I could argue,

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<v Speaker 2>the more I drive, the more fatigued I am, the

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<v Speaker 2>more numb I am, and the less alert I am.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that's so. The I think that is

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<v Speaker 1>on a general gambling perspective. I think that if you

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<v Speaker 1>had a team the generic you, if anyone had a

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<v Speaker 1>team that they watched and followed like it were their

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<v Speaker 1>favorite team. Yeah, but that they did not give a

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<v Speaker 1>damn about. Yes, that I actually think would okay, give

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<v Speaker 1>them real insight on it.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is interesting. So Lem Banker, the late Lem Banker,

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<v Speaker 2>was a gambler in Las Vegas, and I started gambling

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<v Speaker 2>on sports in Las Vegas, and Lem Banker said, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not a volume game. He goes find a team or

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<v Speaker 2>a college conference, and within that conference, frying three or

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<v Speaker 2>four teams and just watch them and bet them.

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<v Speaker 1>So that so that, so that's my So that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I was getting to, like, I think, I No, I

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<v Speaker 1>do not think it is gonna sound arrogant. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>mean it too. I do not think Brett Veach, the

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<v Speaker 1>GM of the Chiefs, knows more about the Chiefs roster

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<v Speaker 1>than I do. I did, and that is only because

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<v Speaker 1>I think I am maximum I know. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it's possible to know more. I think I've reached maximum

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<v Speaker 1>knowledge level of that roster. But I am not a

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<v Speaker 1>good Chiefs gambler because I'm so emotionally invested in it,

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<v Speaker 1>and it leads to high high's low low. Like it's

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<v Speaker 1>not it's not that you always overrate your favorite team.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes as you underrate them, they're like they suck. What

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<v Speaker 1>the hell? You know what I mean? But I I've

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<v Speaker 1>watched everything and I consume everything. So if you did

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<v Speaker 1>that with a team you don't care about just you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. From a pure knowledge perspective, I

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<v Speaker 1>do think you would be like, oh, nobody's talking about it,

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<v Speaker 1>but our left guard, who wasn't that good, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>is at fifty percent and his backup's terrible, and we

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<v Speaker 1>got Jeffrey Simmons coming up that in and of itself

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<v Speaker 1>is worth a point and half, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I do think you would have that. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>that there is in theory, the more you watch, the

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<v Speaker 1>more knowledgeable you are. In practice, the thing you watch

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<v Speaker 1>the most is the thing that you are going to

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<v Speaker 1>care about the most, and then the emotion is going

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<v Speaker 1>to pervert your logic on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I really don't want to know about

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<v Speaker 2>all my wife's relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to add an interesting therapy.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to know about what my kids are doing.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't make me a better parent or a husband

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<v Speaker 2>all that knowledge. So my take has always been I

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<v Speaker 2>like to watch things like a judge watches a case

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<v Speaker 2>without emotion. I can go look up the data give me.

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<v Speaker 2>My wife always says this. She says, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>always watching a game for an angle. I'm like, when

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<v Speaker 2>I went to the Bulls Celtics, the first thing I

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<v Speaker 2>noticed the first four minutes of the game. The Celtics

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<v Speaker 2>didn't start Jalen Brown, Poor Zingis or Drew Holliday, and

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<v Speaker 2>the first thing that was obvious is Billy Donovan told

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<v Speaker 2>his team, clearly, they're not as athletic.

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<v Speaker 3>Push the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>Horford's on the floor, old guy.

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<v Speaker 2>So Chicago came out going a thousand miles an hour,

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<v Speaker 2>getting some easy buckets. And then later in the game,

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<v Speaker 2>you could watch Boston, they've played together, older players, did

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<v Speaker 2>a much better job. You could tell that Boston's coach

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<v Speaker 2>had told them, don't io, We've only got Tatum. They're

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<v Speaker 2>taking him out, and some say pass move the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>We're we're a smarter team than they are.

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<v Speaker 1>Move the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>Boston at the end of the game was like it

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<v Speaker 2>was a symphonic it was beautiful ball movement. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>like that I was watching the game for angles, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think you do the same thing. I don't need

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<v Speaker 2>to watch entire games. I can go like I watch

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<v Speaker 2>Yukon twice this year and I'm like, oh, nobody's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>beat this team in college basketball, defense, scoring, coaching.

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<v Speaker 1>They're just too good.

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<v Speaker 2>They're too long, they're too And then I watched Carolina

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<v Speaker 2>three games and I'm like, that's the only team that

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<v Speaker 2>could give you con trouble and I don't. And I

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<v Speaker 2>probably watched twelve college games this year. I watched Gonzaga,

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<v Speaker 2>and I said they're good, they're not good enough to

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<v Speaker 2>win the title. I watched, you know, I watched the

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<v Speaker 2>series of teams. So and again it's not like I

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<v Speaker 2>do chalk mostly on the college tournament. And I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not Alan Boston, one of these legendary gamblers in

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<v Speaker 2>college basketball. But the truth of the matter is the

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<v Speaker 2>more you do anything, the more emotional you get. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's not always make you a better husband, a better parent,

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<v Speaker 2>a better better a better boss.

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<v Speaker 1>In theory, if you could acquire the expertise without any

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<v Speaker 1>of the like it's I'll use an analogy. Then I

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<v Speaker 1>have a basketball take for you. You made me think

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<v Speaker 1>of it when you're talking the NBA. If you're running

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<v Speaker 1>a business and you are there every single day, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you have employees, yes, so you actually so

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<v Speaker 1>this is you are the expert act. But it is

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<v Speaker 1>also very human to then develop relationships, yes, and so

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<v Speaker 1>the what is best for the business versus I really

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<v Speaker 1>like this person? All this, you know, those things all

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<v Speaker 1>intermix in your brain if you could, if you were,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's probably why. And I'm totally talking out

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<v Speaker 1>of my ass here because I know nothing about running

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<v Speaker 1>a business. And I just thought of this in the second,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think, I think I'm right. It's probably why

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<v Speaker 1>people bring in outside consultants. They're like, Hey, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>know any You don't know this guy went through a divorce.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't know this is my godparent. You don't know anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Come look at this place and tell me what works

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<v Speaker 1>and want. Doesn't give me a cold calculated reading of it,

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<v Speaker 1>because I am as the saying goes too close to

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<v Speaker 1>it right like that is that is how human beings work,

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<v Speaker 1>in that they can get too close to things they

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<v Speaker 1>can know so much. I guess that's where the phrase

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<v Speaker 1>can't see the forest for the trees, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I meaning comes from. So I do think there's something

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<v Speaker 1>to it. Can I throw a pretty ridiculous sure, But

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<v Speaker 1>I believe it's correct. NBA take aut absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>I love these.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so right now, if you had to pick a

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<v Speaker 1>team to win the West, you would pick who.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the Lakers match up with Denver physically, now

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<v Speaker 2>that Karl Anthony Towns is hurt, they don't. Okayse's too young,

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<v Speaker 2>Phoenix to mid range too. They duplicate too many of

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<v Speaker 2>their skills. I think Denver will eventually healthy win. I

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<v Speaker 2>think Boston's deeper but will lose out west Yahn.

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<v Speaker 1>Denver is the heavy favorite by everyone. Right. I agree

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<v Speaker 1>with you, even though they're the nine seed. The Lakers

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<v Speaker 1>appear to me to have the most upside. Every everyone's healthy,

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<v Speaker 1>everything clicks, all of it. But they can't beat Denver.

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<v Speaker 1>They got swept by him last year, they got swepting

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<v Speaker 1>in the regular season, games are closed, but they just

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<v Speaker 1>can't beat them. Okay, So here is the gallic. Here

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<v Speaker 1>is the take that's gonna sound ridiculous, but I truly

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<v Speaker 1>believe the Lakers should want Denver and round one. And

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<v Speaker 1>here's why. If you have to beat them, no matter what.

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<v Speaker 1>If the assumption is no one's gonna beat them for you, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have to beat them. You want them in

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<v Speaker 1>round two when you just went six or seven with

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<v Speaker 1>Minnesota or OKC and they swept whoever they were playing.

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<v Speaker 1>You want them in round three when the games are

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<v Speaker 1>every other day, or you want them in round one

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<v Speaker 1>when there's two or three days between games. At times, yep,

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron and ad can both play forty four minutes. You

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<v Speaker 1>are as fresh as you're going to be at any

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<v Speaker 1>point and try to knock them off when they you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, right before they have really hit

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<v Speaker 1>their stride. So again, I think the Lakers in a

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<v Speaker 1>series against Denver are like fifteen percent. And it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like if they got them in round one they'd be fifty.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think that fifteen percent might go up to

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<v Speaker 1>a round two. I truly believe, Listen. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>they could beat them in the guy every other day

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<v Speaker 1>because you need Lebron to play too much, Adida play

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<v Speaker 1>too much. But round one would be an intriguing spot

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<v Speaker 1>where you could just play Lebron and ad like the

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<v Speaker 1>whole game, like you have two days off.

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<v Speaker 2>This has been my theory on the Lakers. If it

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<v Speaker 2>was March Madness style like the in season title, Di'd

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<v Speaker 2>win the title. And if I was Adam Silver and

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to extend KD Lebron in Steph's efficiency and greatness,

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<v Speaker 2>I would make the first round, three, the second two rounds,

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<v Speaker 2>five games in the final seven. If Steph loses in

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<v Speaker 2>the finals Lebron or KD, that's fine, I won. But

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<v Speaker 2>asking older players, even if you're a dominant favorite, you

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<v Speaker 2>lose games in a series because nobody sweeps anybody, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean outside of Lebron in the first round. Nobody sweeps anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>So what's happening is you're making revenue, but you really

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<v Speaker 2>lessen the chances of the Warriors. Instead, Steph is carrying

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<v Speaker 2>the Warriors. Now he has to go six games in

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<v Speaker 2>the first two playoffs. If it was three and they

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<v Speaker 2>steal what Steph takes two. So I always said, forget

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<v Speaker 2>the greed. Shorten the playoff series until the finals, and

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<v Speaker 2>it allows older players to remain viable in those last

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<v Speaker 2>two to three years of their contract or career, like KD,

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<v Speaker 2>Lebron and Steph right now, Well, so that's and the

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<v Speaker 2>age thing.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what everybody, what nobody realizes is how old

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<v Speaker 1>these guys are in NBA years. Kobe Bryant won the

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<v Speaker 1>final playoff game. Kobe Bryant ever won he was thirty three.

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<v Speaker 1>The final playoff game Michael Jordan ever won he was

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five. Steph is thirty six. KD is either thirty

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<v Speaker 1>six right nor about to be. I'm gonna check. Lebron

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<v Speaker 1>obviously is thirty seven. We are already on KD is

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five, turns thirty six in a few months. We're

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<v Speaker 1>on borrowed time with these guys. Historic we've been on

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<v Speaker 1>borrow time with Lebron, but we are on borrowed time

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<v Speaker 1>with these guys, and folks don't realize it, Like because

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron has won a title at and finals MVP at

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five and then was in the conference finals at

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<v Speaker 1>thirty eight, that's not the history. That's not There is

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<v Speaker 1>no precedent for that. Those guys are not supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>still be carrying their rosters. And by the Durant thing man,

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<v Speaker 1>this is an unbelievable stat. Durant's first eleven years in

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<v Speaker 1>the league gulling, he played forty nine conference finals or

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<v Speaker 1>NBA Finals games one nine ninety nine minutes in the

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<v Speaker 1>conference finals of the NBA finals. So in Durant's first

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<v Speaker 1>eleven seasons, six years he was in the second to

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<v Speaker 1>last you know, series of the year, and three years

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<v Speaker 1>he was in the line one. In the six years

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<v Speaker 1>he has played since then, he has played eleven minutes

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<v Speaker 1>in the conference finals. In RNBA finals, Kevin Durant, in

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<v Speaker 1>his thirties has played eleven minutes passed round two. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a damn shame, but it is wild that

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<v Speaker 1>it has happened.

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<v Speaker 2>I said it when it happened. I know I'm giving

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<v Speaker 2>myself credit, But when he left Golden State for Brooklyn,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, this is the equivalent of Mahomes saying I

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<v Speaker 2>have a friend playing for the Jets, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>go to the Jets. We would go the fuck you

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<v Speaker 2>talking about you're out of your mind, Andy Reid, Steve Kerr,

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<v Speaker 2>Steph Clay Draymond. That is the difference between Lebron and KD.

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<v Speaker 2>Lebron may have had a difference with teammates. Lebron will

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<v Speaker 2>be like, this is a cash cow, I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>any Lebron has left old d Wade, crazy Kyrie. He's

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<v Speaker 2>left untalented Cleveland. If Kyrie would have stayed and Kevin

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<v Speaker 2>Love he.

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<v Speaker 1>Would have stayed in Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 2>Lebron has left because of a His exit strategies were

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<v Speaker 2>usually I can't win.

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<v Speaker 1>Bron has left because he thought that this is over.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to be able to win.

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<v Speaker 3>Else steps and he did me.

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<v Speaker 1>And listen, KD, this is where you and I do

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<v Speaker 1>someone disagree. I totally get why Katie left because we

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<v Speaker 1>all said those rings don't count, loser, don't care. Everybody

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<v Speaker 1>yelled at him, said, you're ruining the sport. The rings

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<v Speaker 1>don't count. It wasn't the leaving, just the leaving. It

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<v Speaker 1>was the leaving plus being like, I'm going to go

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<v Speaker 1>from the lowest maintenance, most reliable wingman superstar in Steph

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<v Speaker 1>Curry to the highest maintenance, least reliable one in Steph

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<v Speaker 1>Kurry in Kyrie, or like going from that to that

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<v Speaker 1>is what the And then the Phoenix thing, like Phoenix

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<v Speaker 1>built poorly. They just they you know, the roster never

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<v Speaker 1>made sense. But it is. Listen, Katie's no longer a

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<v Speaker 1>true MVP candidate. He's closer to the tenth best player

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<v Speaker 1>in the league than the best player in fair you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, which is but for him too

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<v Speaker 1>in the last six years, not make it out around

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<v Speaker 1>two is one of the wildest things ever for a

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<v Speaker 1>player of his caliber to not get those his whole

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<v Speaker 1>twenties NBA postseason Great Series moments. He was a part

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<v Speaker 1>of it. He was a part of the tapestry. And

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<v Speaker 1>now he hasn't played you know, a really big he's played,

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<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, in the last six years, one huge game,

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<v Speaker 1>Game seven against Giannis round and that was round two

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<v Speaker 1>and that was the game where he stepped on the

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<v Speaker 1>line where he hit what he thought was the game

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<v Speaker 1>winner and stepped on the line and then losing overtime.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's it. Other than that, it's getting worked in

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<v Speaker 1>round one or going out and round it's it sucks.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not what I and I'm not like killing him

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<v Speaker 1>for it. I don't think it's because he's like not

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<v Speaker 1>a great player, but it is a I don't have that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't have it in front of me.

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<v Speaker 1>But it feels a little like the last you know,

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<v Speaker 1>half decade of Marino, or maybe eight years of Marino,

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<v Speaker 1>where it's like it's not like there were a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of deep you know, I know, you didn't win a ring,

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<v Speaker 1>but you had deep playoff runs. It's like, no, there's,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, a lot of years where

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like you lost in the wild card round,

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<v Speaker 1>you lost in round two, you missed the playoffs, you

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<v Speaker 1>lost in the wild card round. So that's it's what

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<v Speaker 1>Because I think the reason I'm bringing up is I

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<v Speaker 1>think Phoenix is going to fall to the stay in

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<v Speaker 1>the nine ten area. I think, you know what I mean, Phoenix,

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<v Speaker 1>you lose to San Antonio without Wimby and Phoenix has

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<v Speaker 1>have you seen Colin Phoenix's last ten.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, it's brutal.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the hardest. I'm just gonna tell you what it

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<v Speaker 1>is to the audience, because it is the hardest schedule

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<v Speaker 1>left in the NBA by a mile. This is what

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<v Speaker 1>Phoenix has the rest of the way at Denver, at OKC,

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<v Speaker 1>at the Pelicans, home for the Calves. That's the easiest game.

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<v Speaker 1>Home for the Timberwolves, home for the Pelicans, home for

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<v Speaker 1>the Clippers, at the Clippers, at the Kings, at the Timberwolves.

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<v Speaker 1>Every game they plays against a team with a better

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<v Speaker 1>record than them. Six are on the road, four against

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<v Speaker 1>the top three seeds in the West. Like it is,

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<v Speaker 1>there is no gimmis in there. And they've fallen already

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<v Speaker 1>to the Have they fallen to the nine? I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if they've fallen to the nine or they're going.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the Suns are eight, Lakers, nine Warriors, right.

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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly right, and the Rockets are nipping at everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>heels at eleven. Ye, the Suns are the eight, you're correct,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Lakers are two behind them. And the Lakers

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna by the time people hear this, the Lakers

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<v Speaker 1>will have I would imagine lost to the Bucks. But

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<v Speaker 1>the there's the thing for the Lakers not to do. Schedule,

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<v Speaker 1>you know radio. The Lakers play the Bucks tonight and

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<v Speaker 1>they're getting rolled as we record it. After this, Grizzlies, Pacers,

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<v Speaker 1>Nets are the next three, and then I think they

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<v Speaker 1>have two easy ones. After that they go Grizzly Pacers, Nets, Raptors, Wizards.

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<v Speaker 1>So yes, they have it. They're gonna lose tonight, and

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<v Speaker 1>then they have five of the worst teams in basketball

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<v Speaker 1>the next five. That's a tough spot for the Suns.

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<v Speaker 1>Tough spot.

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<v Speaker 2>Nick Right, always love it, talk about it best.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for drinking with me.

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<v Speaker 2>I finished it at a perfect time.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's the thing, so I have, Uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody does podcasts differently, And this last thing I'll say,

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<v Speaker 1>you and I I would say, whether it's the volume

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<v Speaker 1>con coward podcast or what's right with Nick Right? You

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<v Speaker 1>and I treat our podcasts like a you know, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of more relaxed version of what we do in our

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<v Speaker 1>regular lives, Like our regular shows. I know that there

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<v Speaker 1>are other strategies that are far more aggressive or audacious

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever it is right. So maybe the happy medium,

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<v Speaker 1>since we can't stop talking about them, is one time

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<v Speaker 1>doing a four person pod, you, me and Danielle, and

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<v Speaker 1>we just see how that thing goes. And if it's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's a forty percent chance it's unairable for

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<v Speaker 1>our sakes, then it just goes in the archives. But

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<v Speaker 1>if not, it could be a viral bonanza. So think

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<v Speaker 1>about that.

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<v Speaker 2>I told Anne we had a disagreement recently, and I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm willing to do a fifteen minute pod on this

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<v Speaker 2>disagreement and the audience decides who's right.

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<v Speaker 1>She was not down with it. How did that work out? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I would imagined she doesn't like any of this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>She hates me, I know. So here's the thing my say.

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<v Speaker 1>I think our I think we need to get Anne

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<v Speaker 1>and Danielle together and then maybe we could do it

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<v Speaker 1>because I think that they will have enough commonalities between

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<v Speaker 1>being married to us, living with us in their own stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>then maybe we can do it one day. But this

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<v Speaker 1>is fun as always. I'll talk to you next week,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend. All right, buddy.

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<v Speaker 2>The volume, Thanks so much for listening. If you've enjoyed

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