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Speaker 2: Welcome into Part two of the podcast with Nick Right.

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Speaker 2: I think the NFL views the sports world differently. So

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Speaker 2: we all know that big eat small, right, They're just

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Speaker 1: Year later, but.

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Speaker 2: The NFL has now scheduled another Christmas Day game. So

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Speaker 2: there was always sort of a gentleman's agreement in sports.

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Speaker 2: You know, you get Opening Day in baseball and the

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Speaker 2: I for the record, I've always believed, and I've thought

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Speaker 2: starting two days after the Monday after Thanksgiving, the Wednesday

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Speaker 2: Then Wednesday's a dead day, and that sports calendar NBA

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Speaker 2: is interesting now kind of the pitbull attack mantra of

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Speaker 2: that marketing Day on Christmas was a real thing. It

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Speaker 2: And I do believe that's a tipping point. That Christmas

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Speaker 1: But everyone that loves football has convinced all of their

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Speaker 1: When my team is playing a NFL game, they know

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Speaker 1: here's why I think it's a mistake. It's the same

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't love the Christmas Day thing.

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Speaker 1: I like the rule changes the NFL did I'm not

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Speaker 2: Yeah no, I don't disagree. I you know, it's I

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Speaker 2: see everything through the eyes of what does it do

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Speaker 2: for the production of my show and my staff. So

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Speaker 2: when they talked about eighteen games and that's gonna happen,

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Speaker 2: And I think it's it's the sports brain. Like college basketball.

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Speaker 2: And the other thing is I had a four team

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Speaker 2: I've said this about the NFL. The red zone is perfect.

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Speaker 1: In theory, if you could acquire the expertise without any

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Speaker 2: I think the Lakers match up with Denver physically, now

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Speaker 1: Denver is the heavy favorite by everyone. Right. I agree

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Speaker 1: This is what everybody, what nobody realizes is how old

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Speaker 2: left untalented Cleveland. If Kyrie would have stayed and Kevin

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Speaker 2: Love he.

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Speaker 1: Would have stayed in Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: Lebron has left because of a His exit strategies were

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Speaker 2: usually I can't win.

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Speaker 1: Bron has left because he thought that this is over.

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Speaker 1: I need to be able to win.

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Speaker 3: Else steps and he did me.

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Speaker 1: And listen, KD, this is where you and I do

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Speaker 1: someone disagree. I totally get why Katie left because we

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Speaker 1: all said those rings don't count, loser, don't care. Everybody

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Speaker 1: yelled at him, said, you're ruining the sport. The rings

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Speaker 1: don't count. It wasn't the leaving, just the leaving. It

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Speaker 1: was the leaving plus being like, I'm going to go

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Speaker 1: from the lowest maintenance, most reliable wingman superstar in Steph

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Speaker 1: Curry to the highest maintenance, least reliable one in Steph

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Speaker 1: Kurry in Kyrie, or like going from that to that

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Speaker 1: is what the And then the Phoenix thing, like Phoenix

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Speaker 1: built poorly. They just they you know, the roster never

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Speaker 1: made sense. But it is. Listen, Katie's no longer a

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Speaker 1: true MVP candidate. He's closer to the tenth best player

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Speaker 1: in the league than the best player in fair you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean, which is but for him too

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Speaker 1: in the last six years, not make it out around

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Speaker 1: two is one of the wildest things ever for a

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Speaker 1: player of his caliber to not get those his whole

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Speaker 1: twenties NBA postseason Great Series moments. He was a part

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Speaker 1: of it. He was a part of the tapestry. And

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Speaker 1: now he hasn't played you know, a really big he's played,

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, in the last six years, one huge game,

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Speaker 1: Game seven against Giannis round and that was round two

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Speaker 1: and that was the game where he stepped on the

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Speaker 1: line where he hit what he thought was the game

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Speaker 1: winner and stepped on the line and then losing overtime.

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Speaker 1: And that's it. Other than that, it's getting worked in

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Speaker 1: round one or going out and round it's it sucks.

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Speaker 1: It's not what I and I'm not like killing him

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Speaker 1: for it. I don't think it's because he's like not

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Speaker 1: a great player, but it is a I don't have that,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't have it in front of me.

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Speaker 1: But it feels a little like the last you know,

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Speaker 1: half decade of Marino, or maybe eight years of Marino,

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Speaker 1: where it's like it's not like there were a bunch

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Speaker 1: of deep you know, I know, you didn't win a ring,

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Speaker 1: but you had deep playoff runs. It's like, no, there's,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, a lot of years where

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Speaker 1: it's just like you lost in the wild card round,

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Speaker 1: you lost in round two, you missed the playoffs, you

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Speaker 1: lost in the wild card round. So that's it's what

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Speaker 1: Because I think the reason I'm bringing up is I

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Speaker 1: think Phoenix is going to fall to the stay in

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Speaker 1: the nine ten area. I think, you know what I mean, Phoenix,

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Speaker 1: you lose to San Antonio without Wimby and Phoenix has

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Speaker 1: have you seen Colin Phoenix's last ten.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's brutal.

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Speaker 1: It's the hardest. I'm just gonna tell you what it

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Speaker 1: is to the audience, because it is the hardest schedule

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Speaker 1: left in the NBA by a mile. This is what

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Speaker 1: Phoenix has the rest of the way at Denver, at OKC,

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Speaker 1: at the Pelicans, home for the Calves. That's the easiest game.

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Speaker 1: Home for the Timberwolves, home for the Pelicans, home for

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Speaker 1: the Clippers, at the Clippers, at the Kings, at the Timberwolves.

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Speaker 1: Every game they plays against a team with a better

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Speaker 1: record than them. Six are on the road, four against

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Speaker 1: the top three seeds in the West. Like it is,

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Speaker 1: there is no gimmis in there. And they've fallen already

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Speaker 1: to the Have they fallen to the nine? I don't

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Speaker 1: know if they've fallen to the nine or they're going.

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Speaker 2: I think the Suns are eight, Lakers, nine Warriors, right.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly right, and the Rockets are nipping at everybody's

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Speaker 1: heels at eleven. Ye, the Suns are the eight, you're correct,

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Speaker 1: and the Lakers are two behind them. And the Lakers

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Speaker 1: are gonna by the time people hear this, the Lakers

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Speaker 1: will have I would imagine lost to the Bucks. But

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Speaker 1: the there's the thing for the Lakers not to do. Schedule,

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Speaker 1: you know radio. The Lakers play the Bucks tonight and

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Speaker 1: they're getting rolled as we record it. After this, Grizzlies, Pacers,

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Speaker 1: Nets are the next three, and then I think they

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Speaker 1: have two easy ones. After that they go Grizzly Pacers, Nets, Raptors, Wizards.

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Speaker 1: So yes, they have it. They're gonna lose tonight, and

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Speaker 1: then they have five of the worst teams in basketball

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Speaker 1: the next five. That's a tough spot for the Suns.

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Speaker 1: Tough spot.

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Speaker 2: Nick Right, always love it, talk about it best.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for drinking with me.

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Speaker 2: I finished it at a perfect time.

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Speaker 1: So here's the thing, so I have, Uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: everybody does podcasts differently, And this last thing I'll say,

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Speaker 1: you and I I would say, whether it's the volume

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Speaker 1: con coward podcast or what's right with Nick Right? You

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Speaker 1: and I treat our podcasts like a you know, kind

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Speaker 1: of more relaxed version of what we do in our

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Speaker 1: regular lives, Like our regular shows. I know that there

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Speaker 1: are other strategies that are far more aggressive or audacious

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Speaker 1: or whatever it is right. So maybe the happy medium,

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Speaker 1: since we can't stop talking about them, is one time

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Speaker 1: doing a four person pod, you, me and Danielle, and

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Speaker 1: we just see how that thing goes. And if it's

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Speaker 1: you know, there's a forty percent chance it's unairable for

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Speaker 1: our sakes, then it just goes in the archives. But

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Speaker 1: if not, it could be a viral bonanza. So think

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Speaker 1: about that.

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Speaker 2: I told Anne we had a disagreement recently, and I said,

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Speaker 2: I'm willing to do a fifteen minute pod on this

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Speaker 2: disagreement and the audience decides who's right.

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Speaker 1: She was not down with it. How did that work out? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I would imagined she doesn't like any of this stuff.

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Speaker 1: She hates me, I know. So here's the thing my say.

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Speaker 1: I think our I think we need to get Anne

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Speaker 1: and Danielle together and then maybe we could do it

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Speaker 1: because I think that they will have enough commonalities between

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Speaker 1: being married to us, living with us in their own stuff,

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Speaker 1: then maybe we can do it one day. But this

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Speaker 1: is fun as always. I'll talk to you next week,

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Speaker 1: my friend. All right, buddy.

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Speaker 2: The volume, Thanks so much for listening. If you've enjoyed

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