WEBVTT - The Art of Asking for a Discount #018

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to How the Money. I'm Joel and I am

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<v Speaker 1>Matt and today we're talking about the art of asking

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<v Speaker 1>for a discount. All right, man, that's right. Coming up

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<v Speaker 1>on the show, we're going to talk about why you

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<v Speaker 1>should ask for a discount, why it's hard for some

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<v Speaker 1>people to ask for a discount, and then we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go through step by step how to ask for a

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<v Speaker 1>discount it can be so hard. But first I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>It's really funny we're posting different things throughout the week

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<v Speaker 1>the topics that we're covering here on the podcast, and

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<v Speaker 1>then other topics that just kind of out of the

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<v Speaker 1>blue that people ask or that we're posting articles too.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm enjoying it. Yeah, there's like minded folks up there,

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<v Speaker 1>no doubt. All right, Matt, real quick, I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you about this really cool website that one of

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<v Speaker 1>my co workers sent my way because she knows I

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<v Speaker 1>love saving money and I love Kraft Beer. And there's

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<v Speaker 1>this really cool website called secret hopper dot com and

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<v Speaker 1>it is what it sounds like. It is secret shopping. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and so if you go to secret hopper dot com,

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<v Speaker 1>you can sign up to be a secret shopper at breweries.

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<v Speaker 1>And essentially what what you're doing is the brewery is

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they don't know that you're a secret shopper,

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<v Speaker 1>and you go into the brewery and you order some beers,

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<v Speaker 1>you try them out, and then you write a report

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<v Speaker 1>about what your experience was like, and you get your

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<v Speaker 1>beers reimbursed by secret hopper dot com. Yeah, not just

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<v Speaker 1>the beers too, but it's about like the space and

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<v Speaker 1>like the tasting room and just like the whole experience. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a really cool idea. I love what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>If you like free beer, if you like saving money

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<v Speaker 1>and you don't mind, and who doesn't, right, Yeah, So

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<v Speaker 1>I mean if you're listening to this podcast, those things

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<v Speaker 1>probably all kind of get your radar buzzing. Uh. And

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<v Speaker 1>so Secret Hoppers a really cool site. Um. Sadly they're

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<v Speaker 1>not available in Atlanta right now, so I couldn't take advantage, um,

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<v Speaker 1>but definitely something I would be interested if they were

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<v Speaker 1>available in my town. So go to secret hopper dot

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<v Speaker 1>com if you want to check that out. I just

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<v Speaker 1>thought that was neat and that the people that listen

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<v Speaker 1>to this podcast in particular would kind of gravitate towards

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully you're listening to this though. We want to be

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<v Speaker 1>Secret Hoppers in Atlanta because we're already there anyways. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to be drinking the beer we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be drinking in the space, so like, yeah, pay us

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<v Speaker 1>to do it. We'll we'll definitely take that job, gladly

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<v Speaker 1>do it. Something that's kind of related and I guess

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<v Speaker 1>to what we're talking about, Asking for a Discount, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a podcast episode that aired years ago now, and

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<v Speaker 1>funny enough and I both have listened to it, we've

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<v Speaker 1>never talked about it. It's of this American Life episode

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<v Speaker 1>and I forget what the episode is called, but it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they called the good Guy disc Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I was gonna say, something along like good guy,

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<v Speaker 1>good guy discount, something like that, but which I had

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<v Speaker 1>already kind of been fascinating. Yeah, I've already been implumenting

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot of these strategies in my life before

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<v Speaker 1>I heard that. But and I listened to that episode

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<v Speaker 1>and I enjoyed it, But I also think, uh, that concept,

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<v Speaker 1>I think what we've gotten here is is different than

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<v Speaker 1>the way they approached it there, and and I think

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<v Speaker 1>there are some ways that in that episode, essentially his

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<v Speaker 1>premise was asking people for the quote unquote good guy discount,

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<v Speaker 1>and that felt like a little awkward to me because

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<v Speaker 1>he said that people would just kind of look at

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<v Speaker 1>him and be like huh yeah, and he'd be like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm a good guy, Like you're a guy,

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<v Speaker 1>good guy, let's can I get the good guy discount?

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<v Speaker 1>And that just seems like an awkward woid over. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it definitely seems a little more kitchy. Yeahah, And obviously

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<v Speaker 1>it fit well for what they're doing for the show,

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<v Speaker 1>So certainly we want to kind of address today we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna talk about some of those things, but we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>dive more into like the meat of ways to ask

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<v Speaker 1>for a discount to you. But it's a great podcast though,

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<v Speaker 1>This American Life. Give some other favorites that that you

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<v Speaker 1>listen to, oh Man, totally. I'll tell you a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of the ones I listened to, and and I'll be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm such a nerd. Most of them are personal financial related,

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<v Speaker 1>I really. I think the one I can't get enough of,

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<v Speaker 1>probably my favorite that I love listening to is How

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<v Speaker 1>I Built This with Guy Robs. Yeah, freaking love that one.

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<v Speaker 1>The guy Roses. Uh, he's everywhere. Yeah, I didn't really.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's got so many shows now and he's

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<v Speaker 1>a baller. That's my favorite. And I think too, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's in that sphere that I enjoy. But it feels

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of business, a little bit of like personal

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<v Speaker 1>story narrative. Yeah, it feels a little more like like

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<v Speaker 1>can't eating candy though that I can get It's like

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<v Speaker 1>I can get away with it. But because it's still

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<v Speaker 1>in my sphere, you know what I'm saying, Like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not quite as like nuts and Bolts personal finance it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like it's a story. Guilty pleasure is because it's

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<v Speaker 1>a story. I I enjoy that a lot. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>dig that one too. Something. I mean, I've been surprised

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<v Speaker 1>that some of the people he's he's had on where

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm not going to be interested in

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<v Speaker 1>this one at all, and they're totally fascinating. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the five Guys. Have you listened to five? Yes? That's uh.

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<v Speaker 1>He started out literally making burgers like in Philly or

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<v Speaker 1>something like somewhere up north with like his brothers. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and he just didn't seem to have any interest in

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<v Speaker 1>it to a certain extent. Who I was. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was amazing that he's gotten so far. He accidentally

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<v Speaker 1>became like the fastest growing burger place, you know, nationwide.

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<v Speaker 1>It's insane. It really is incredible, And there's so many

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<v Speaker 1>good stories like that. Do you ever listened to ninety

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<v Speaker 1>nine p I but I have friends are rape about it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's worth worth checking out. I like that one. So.

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<v Speaker 1>So I used to be a designer, and so this

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<v Speaker 1>podcast is all about design and they look at all

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<v Speaker 1>sorts of design. So everything from some simple like a

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<v Speaker 1>product that you can hold and use every day to

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<v Speaker 1>like cities and just everything, and they just really go

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<v Speaker 1>into the history of it and talk about how it's

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<v Speaker 1>implemented and just yeah, I really dig it. It's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a nerdy design. It keeps me um connected of

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<v Speaker 1>my graphic design routes, and uh, yeah, I like it

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<v Speaker 1>all right, you have to check it out, Okay, I will.

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<v Speaker 1>I will. A couple of others that I'm into. I

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<v Speaker 1>really like Radical Personal Finance. Um, this guy Joshua does

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<v Speaker 1>that podcast, and he's he's really good, really smart guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Enjoy listening to him. Another one if you're into real

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<v Speaker 1>estate investing, Bigger Pockets. I don't listen to all of

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<v Speaker 1>the episodes of either of those, but I really like

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the direction they go in and what they're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about. Yeah, and every and I love to hear,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, real estate investing stories, how people are doing it,

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<v Speaker 1>how people are doing it differently than me, and I

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<v Speaker 1>can kind of implement some of those strategies into my life. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I really love long form interviews. I've just

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<v Speaker 1>always been a fan. I don't know if I'm allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to say that. I used to like Charlie Rose because

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<v Speaker 1>he's kind of disgraced now at this point, but I

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<v Speaker 1>loved his show. That was like my favorite. And Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Rogan is kind of doing that in podcast and everyone

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<v Speaker 1>knows that he's got essentially the number one or two

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<v Speaker 1>most listen to podcasts out there. But he does really

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<v Speaker 1>great long form two three, sometimes longer our interviews with people.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of those are in saying I'm just like, how

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<v Speaker 1>can you just keep going? Yeah, but some of the

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<v Speaker 1>people are incredible. I again another one. I don't listen

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<v Speaker 1>to all of them, but if there's an interesting person

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<v Speaker 1>on their compelling, compelling individual, I totally willing to give

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<v Speaker 1>two and a half hours of my time. Maybe I

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<v Speaker 1>should listen to more of like the Personal Finance podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>considering that's kind of what we do. But really the

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<v Speaker 1>like the most personal money like Personal Finance and Money

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of get, is like the MPR Planet Money,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm pretty religious about it that I really like them.

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<v Speaker 1>I literally listened to every single one, even though it's

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<v Speaker 1>like NPR, it's a kind of sterile, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>cleaned up, sanitize. Maybe when they're they're not drinking booze

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<v Speaker 1>on those, I mean, I guess occasionally there was that

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<v Speaker 1>one about vodka. Yes, oh my gosh, maybe we should

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<v Speaker 1>link to them one because that was a man I

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<v Speaker 1>thought that was an amazing and amazing story. And then

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<v Speaker 1>one of my other favorites, Actually, I listened to a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of h Atlanta United Soccer podcast. Oh yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like a bunch. I don't know if we've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>how many I listened to you, but you you listened

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<v Speaker 1>to like at least two. How many do you listen to?

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<v Speaker 1>War now? O'm oh my gosh, I'm trying to cut

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<v Speaker 1>one of them out, but two of my favorite hosts

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<v Speaker 1>on one of them actually just started a new one.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called Unrelegated H A t L. I believe they've

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<v Speaker 1>only released one episode, but I listened to it, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be good. It's like right in the sort

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<v Speaker 1>of vein that I want to hear stuff talked about

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<v Speaker 1>where it's it's not too technical, where it's just a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of like dudes that played soccer in high school

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<v Speaker 1>and are now kind of like you know that coach

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<v Speaker 1>as well, Like they don't get super technical, they keep

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<v Speaker 1>it light, but at the same time they hit all

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<v Speaker 1>the good good knowledge I want to I want to

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<v Speaker 1>hear discussed sort of like maybe we do with personal finance.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Yeah, I know. I mean I think

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<v Speaker 1>we aim to be and I don't know that we've

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<v Speaker 1>really told our listeners. It's like we aim to be

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<v Speaker 1>that place kind of in the middle. Like I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's people out there that have personal finance podcasts that

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<v Speaker 1>are like super hardcore, and then there's other people that

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<v Speaker 1>are completely just winging it. Uh, And I think you

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<v Speaker 1>and I were sitting around literally drinking beers on the couch. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just like happened to toss on microphone in their la

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that. And we want to be really

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<v Speaker 1>intentional here out what we're talking about and the points

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<v Speaker 1>that we're making their well thought through their their planned

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<v Speaker 1>these podcasts. We discuss what we're gonna talk about, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're very intentional about you know, what makes it in

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<v Speaker 1>and what doesn't into this podcast. But we're also two

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<v Speaker 1>thirty something dudes with a lot of other things going

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<v Speaker 1>on in our lives. So we want this podcast to

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<v Speaker 1>be kind of that blend between getting all the facts

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<v Speaker 1>that you need most of the facts at least. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna give you some of the facts and then

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<v Speaker 1>some of that kind of relational and yeah, like we're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of just hanging out having beers and talking money.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean essentially that's how I mean, that's how this

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing started, right because we would sit around and

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<v Speaker 1>drink beers and talk about money in personal finance and

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<v Speaker 1>real estate and investing, and there are some numbers you

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<v Speaker 1>need to know, but then there are other things that

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<v Speaker 1>can be left to to other people to explain exactly. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so that beings said, we appreciate you guys listening, and

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<v Speaker 1>that'll be it. False. Let's get to beer. Oh man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so excited about these beers. So once you get

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<v Speaker 1>started cracking these open. Jill brought a bunch of beers

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<v Speaker 1>back from France on that trip he went on, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm super stoked to try some of these craft French

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<v Speaker 1>beers that are going in the direction of craft beer,

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<v Speaker 1>like like they're in the States, but obviously they're from

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<v Speaker 1>a different country. So yeah, today we're gonna try to beers.

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<v Speaker 1>And what are these called? Man, Please tell me they're

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<v Speaker 1>not in French, because you're gonna slaughter the hell out

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<v Speaker 1>of him. That's the interesting thing about these the French

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<v Speaker 1>beers and and from some of the styles I was

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<v Speaker 1>seeing over there, they're very much trying to be like

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<v Speaker 1>American craft beer. Like the styles that they're going for,

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of absurdity of some of the some of

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<v Speaker 1>the names and some of the combos. They're really trying

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<v Speaker 1>to go big like some of the American craft beers.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like really pushing the boundaries. Well that's because

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<v Speaker 1>when when you think of European beers, what do you

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<v Speaker 1>think of? You think of these old school for the

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<v Speaker 1>most part, right old school pilseners and loggers that have

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<v Speaker 1>been around for centuries, I mean literally right centuries. Oh yeah, totally.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you think of like French styles, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>you normally assume like a French farmhouse kind of style,

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<v Speaker 1>like a season something kind of rustic at table beer.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the two beers I've chosen for tonight out

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<v Speaker 1>of the beer trade I did, And if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to see how many beers and what beers I got,

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<v Speaker 1>check out our Instagram page and we posted a picture

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<v Speaker 1>of kind of my beer hall from France. But the

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<v Speaker 1>two beers tonight are a vanilla milkshake I p a

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<v Speaker 1>from a brewery called Man that sounds awesome as ammut

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<v Speaker 1>I believe, and then a probably throw an accident on

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<v Speaker 1>in there. Yeah, right, and then an Imperial berlinervice made

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<v Speaker 1>with Heller tau Blanc. Nice, very good jos maybe from

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<v Speaker 1>a brewery called Ponting. Can you read my daughter's madeline? Next?

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like you can get all the all the

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<v Speaker 1>accents just right. I'll put your kids to sleep. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>what is an Imperial berlinervice? I'm excited. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever had an Imperial burllinervice. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>the label on this one's really cool. We'll have a

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<v Speaker 1>picture up at our websites. You can see the labe

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<v Speaker 1>on that Imperial Berliner. It's just so so cool. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason Matt I chose the first one that

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna drink, which is the Imperial Berliner with white grapes,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought this one might have like kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>most wine resemblance, and coming from France, where do they

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<v Speaker 1>specialize in wine, I kind of wanted to bring back

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<v Speaker 1>a beer that had some of those kind of wine

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<v Speaker 1>notes going on, and this one totally does. Yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>it's totally does. This is really really good. It's probably

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<v Speaker 1>the most wine like beer I've ever had. Ye, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I can, I mean, I can picture the grapes like

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<v Speaker 1>as I'm drinking. Yeah, yeah, white grapes. Yeah, that's delicious. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know that even in the United States right now,

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<v Speaker 1>that's this is a style that's kind of becoming popular.

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<v Speaker 1>Firestone Walker and some other breweries are starting to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of especially California breweries, starting to brew hybrid beers, so

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<v Speaker 1>they're this mix between beer and wine, and so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>definitely interested to try more of those kind of beers.

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<v Speaker 1>This one seems very much like that in that vein,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's delicious. I think it's just because of the grapes,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's making me think a little bit about like muscadines,

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<v Speaker 1>like musk muscadine wine, a little bit like sweetness. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's just got that sort of thick skin kind

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<v Speaker 1>of grape piness to it. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the best word is mustiness. It's got that

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<v Speaker 1>great mustiness to it. Yeah, I'm with you. This is

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<v Speaker 1>really good man. Thanks for bringing this back. I like

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<v Speaker 1>your thoughts, you like with your heads that bringing back

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<v Speaker 1>something that's kind of like whin ish. Yeah, I figured

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<v Speaker 1>I had to. I had some great wine while while

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<v Speaker 1>I was there. I know the French microbrewers are doing

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of things that try to resemble American beers,

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<v Speaker 1>but I wanted to bring something back that felt kind

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<v Speaker 1>of uniquely French. Yeah. Yeah, and so that this one

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<v Speaker 1>definitely does that. So now onto the vanilla milkshake. I

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<v Speaker 1>p a, Yeah, take a little slip your water, cleanse

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<v Speaker 1>that palett. Yeah, two beers at the same time. Oh man,

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<v Speaker 1>this smells nice and yeah, a little funky. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>definitely got lacto smoothness combined with a little bit of funk. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Brett funk too. Man, this is does it say it's

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<v Speaker 1>specifically Brett. I don't know, Matt, I can't read French.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking for words that look like they might say Brett. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's got It's definitely got that funk level going uh

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<v Speaker 1>and that kind of smooth lactose, a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>vanilla in there. Definitely not as hoppy or fruity as

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<v Speaker 1>some of the milkshake I pa s that I've had

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<v Speaker 1>here in the States. Yeah. Man, it's almost got this

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<v Speaker 1>herbal sort of quality, like less fruit less hot, definitely

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<v Speaker 1>less hot I mean, it's kind of almost a misnomer. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>oh man, Yeah, some of those beers we've had that

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<v Speaker 1>are like confused with tea. I'm yeah, I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's got a little bit of that t vibe and

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<v Speaker 1>and it's good. I like, I like some beers with

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<v Speaker 1>tea in them. Um, that's a style. I think I've

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<v Speaker 1>only had two or three of uh, But this one

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<v Speaker 1>it's not build like that, So I'm not sure if

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<v Speaker 1>that's like what they're going for on purpose. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is definitely interesting. I don't think I've ever had a

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<v Speaker 1>beer that tasted quite like this, but I will, but

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<v Speaker 1>I will. I will say it's also like it though. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's good, but it's also not my favorite. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be like, oh, you gotta go get a bottle

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<v Speaker 1>of that, Whereas the the Imperial, the Imperial Berlinervice, that's

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<v Speaker 1>freaking fantastic. I'd say you definitely need to try that. Well, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks so much for bringing these over. You know what,

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<v Speaker 1>that's one of my favorite things about craft beer is

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<v Speaker 1>sharing it with friends that appreciate it. There's something really

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<v Speaker 1>great about having a conversation over beer, enjoying it together.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what we do here on the podcast. And man,

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<v Speaker 1>I love that because there's something great about drinking a

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<v Speaker 1>good beer by myself at home, but it's better when

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<v Speaker 1>it's shared. So plus the fact that you got this

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<v Speaker 1>when you're traveling too. It's kind of like buying a keepsake,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like something, but instead we just get to

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<v Speaker 1>drink it, you know, my favorite way, better than just

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<v Speaker 1>sticking on your fridge. Right. Well, one of my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>things about traveling is when you book far enough in advance,

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<v Speaker 1>you have months and months and months to look forward

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<v Speaker 1>to it, and then you get to enjoy the trip

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<v Speaker 1>itself and then hopefully, you know, you bring back some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of souvenir like this. Every time I pop a

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<v Speaker 1>bottle over the next over the course of the next

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<v Speaker 1>six months or a year, and like I told you,

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<v Speaker 1>I still have a bottle left from Amsterdam. Every time

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<v Speaker 1>I see that, you know, it takes you back. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it reminds me about the trip and that beer trade,

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<v Speaker 1>the people I met, and the fun I had. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's really fun to get to kind of relive, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, relive that trip over and over as you

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<v Speaker 1>see those things or you know, that's why Emily and

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<v Speaker 1>I try to buy a piece of art from everywhere

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<v Speaker 1>we go, just a little reminder that token. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>so every time we see it on our wall, reminded

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<v Speaker 1>that was that trip. And that's really fun. I love

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<v Speaker 1>having little reminders of the places that we've been. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>with you, man, I love it all right. Matt onto

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<v Speaker 1>the topic of hand the art of asking for a discount,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have to confess before we get too far

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<v Speaker 1>into this, that I've kind of always enjoyed haggling, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I like flea markets, I like Craigslist, and I know

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<v Speaker 1>that that's probably a little odd. I don't think most

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<v Speaker 1>so you've always been that way. Yeah, pretty much, I've

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<v Speaker 1>kind of always enjoyed ever since you're like a little kid.

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<v Speaker 1>You're kind of like into that and bartering or figuring

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<v Speaker 1>out a way to get something cheaper or just I

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<v Speaker 1>like talking with people, like pretty much anybody, and so

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<v Speaker 1>that's just kind of a way that you talk with

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<v Speaker 1>somebody as opposed to just paying the amount that that's requested.

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<v Speaker 1>Is working on the price. Having of you all wondered

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<v Speaker 1>if Joel likes talking to people, right, Yeah, but I

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<v Speaker 1>will say I think some of the things that we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna share here. You don't have to be naturally inclined. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to be extrovert, which is which is

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<v Speaker 1>what you are, right, So I think that has a

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<v Speaker 1>lot to do with why obviously you like talking to people,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that definitely translates into like haggling and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of trying to get a deal. I will say

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<v Speaker 1>I remember as a kid, my parents, especially my my dad,

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<v Speaker 1>asking for a discount, like at restaurants, and he's in

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<v Speaker 1>the military and so he would always ask for a

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<v Speaker 1>military discount, and I just remember as a kid hating that,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm just sitting there. I'm just like, man, just

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<v Speaker 1>just pay for it. And I think that's more of uh,

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<v Speaker 1>like an embarrassed middle school are But you're embarrassed about

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<v Speaker 1>everything in middle school, so yeah, you're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>about embarrassed about anything your parents, but that specifically, I

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<v Speaker 1>just I just remember that standing out, being like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just pay for the full amount here, Like I'll

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<v Speaker 1>just pitch in a few bucks, let's just do this

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<v Speaker 1>and go. But now that I'm an adult, I'm like, nah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's my money. That being said, I didn't grow up

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<v Speaker 1>kind of with that mentality. It wasn't until I had

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<v Speaker 1>my own money, my own job where yeah, I made

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<v Speaker 1>that connection that this is my money and I need

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure that I'm making it stretch and go

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<v Speaker 1>as far as I wanted to. Well, I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>probably the first point that we need to make is

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<v Speaker 1>that whatever you're asking for a discount on, it's your money,

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<v Speaker 1>and so if you don't ask for the discount, no

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<v Speaker 1>one else is looking out for you. No one else

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<v Speaker 1>is going to make sure you get the right deal

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<v Speaker 1>or you get the price that you want. And so

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't do it, no one else will. Whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's a good or a service that you're asking for

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<v Speaker 1>a discount on. The mindset behind it is protecting your

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<v Speaker 1>money so they can work for you the way you

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to. Ye, Man, I think a big part of

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<v Speaker 1>that too is just knowing that that's an option. I

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<v Speaker 1>think most folks just kind of go through life and

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<v Speaker 1>they just think, oh, you know, you get a bill

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<v Speaker 1>or you receive a quote or whatever it is, and

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<v Speaker 1>you just pay it. And obviously that's probably I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's what most folks do. But kind of having that

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<v Speaker 1>knowledge is I think what's missing and just know that

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<v Speaker 1>that is an option and knowing that you can do

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<v Speaker 1>that and hopefully too by the end of this podcast

0:19:04.720 --> 0:19:07.320
<v Speaker 1>you as listeners. That's what we're hoping that you kind

0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:09.960
<v Speaker 1>of get from this is uh is hearing that like cool,

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<v Speaker 1>I can sort of ask for a discount. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>a huge deal. Yeah. I think most people don't know

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<v Speaker 1>that it's an option, right, and and there's certainly some

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<v Speaker 1>parts of life where it's not an option. So for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say you are renting a place and you are

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<v Speaker 1>in a lease for a year with a landlord, and

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<v Speaker 1>you pay a thousand dollars a month for rent. Uh. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't negotiate months a month asking for a discount

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<v Speaker 1>when you have assigned lease for a certain amount that

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<v Speaker 1>you're supposed to pay every month. That's not good form,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So just know that there are certain times

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<v Speaker 1>that it's uncouth, and I think you can use a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of common sense and hopefully some of the

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<v Speaker 1>things we lay out here in order to know kind

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<v Speaker 1>of when that is and when asking for a discount

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<v Speaker 1>is just a terrible idea. If Joel thinks it's uncouth,

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<v Speaker 1>you've better watch out though, exactly because I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you ask anybody and everybody for anything. Uh what does

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<v Speaker 1>that mean? Well, I'm just saying you're not scared, right,

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<v Speaker 1>like can I have your firstborn child? Yeah? What? Why

0:20:01.920 --> 0:20:04.040
<v Speaker 1>would you ask me that? Like? It was not But

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<v Speaker 1>kind of along those lines, we kind of got started

0:20:05.840 --> 0:20:07.879
<v Speaker 1>talking about this topic because we were we both came

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<v Speaker 1>across this article that I was talking about negotiating and

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<v Speaker 1>asking for discounts specifically to credit cards, and man, some

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<v Speaker 1>of the stats they had on there were freaking amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>They said that the biggest reason consumers don't negotiate or

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<v Speaker 1>or ask for discounts is because they don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>they can, but that when people do ask, it's amazing

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<v Speaker 1>what they're able to get. Specifically, people who asked, we're

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<v Speaker 1>able to get a late fee waived and just dropped,

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<v Speaker 1>just straight incredible, right, Yeah, Like, I mean that's a

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<v Speaker 1>ton of people, but who doesn't how many people don't

0:20:41.160 --> 0:20:43.520
<v Speaker 1>do it? Right? They see the late fee, they're like

0:20:43.600 --> 0:20:46.879
<v Speaker 1>a crap, I was late paying the bill. I deserve

0:20:47.000 --> 0:20:49.399
<v Speaker 1>to pay the fee. I'm just gonna do it, And

0:20:49.440 --> 0:20:51.879
<v Speaker 1>so you just end up, you know, sucking it up

0:20:51.880 --> 0:20:54.000
<v Speaker 1>and paying that extra money out of your bank account

0:20:54.280 --> 0:20:56.840
<v Speaker 1>to the credit card company when you can make a

0:20:56.960 --> 0:21:00.840
<v Speaker 1>nice little four minute phone call and ask the representative

0:21:01.040 --> 0:21:03.960
<v Speaker 1>in a in a kind voice, if you can get

0:21:03.960 --> 0:21:06.639
<v Speaker 1>the late few waves this month because it was purely

0:21:06.640 --> 0:21:09.280
<v Speaker 1>accidental and it won't happen again. I assume you've done

0:21:09.280 --> 0:21:11.359
<v Speaker 1>this right. I've done it before and it works, and

0:21:11.720 --> 0:21:13.200
<v Speaker 1>I've done it. I've done it a few times too.

0:21:13.320 --> 0:21:15.320
<v Speaker 1>Like normally I am just on top of, you know,

0:21:15.400 --> 0:21:18.399
<v Speaker 1>my my payments and stuff. Sometimes specifically Actually it was

0:21:18.440 --> 0:21:20.639
<v Speaker 1>before a vacation. It was like a trip when the

0:21:20.840 --> 0:21:23.320
<v Speaker 1>my payment cycle fell when I was when when I

0:21:23.359 --> 0:21:24.800
<v Speaker 1>was gone, and I just, you know, you just don't

0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:26.399
<v Speaker 1>think about that kind of stuff when you're on vacation.

0:21:26.440 --> 0:21:27.800
<v Speaker 1>And I didn't take care of it ahead of time,

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<v Speaker 1>and came back to freaking yeah late payment fee and yeah,

0:21:31.640 --> 0:21:34.480
<v Speaker 1>I just gave him a call and dropped it. Yeah.

0:21:34.640 --> 0:21:36.720
<v Speaker 1>Same here. It's it's something like that that falls through

0:21:36.720 --> 0:21:39.320
<v Speaker 1>the cracks. Like once every few years, something like that happens,

0:21:39.800 --> 0:21:42.240
<v Speaker 1>and I called in and every time it's happened, you know,

0:21:42.280 --> 0:21:44.760
<v Speaker 1>two or three times now at this point, they've always

0:21:44.800 --> 0:21:48.160
<v Speaker 1>reversed it. The other thing too. In that survey, most

0:21:48.160 --> 0:21:51.719
<v Speaker 1>people that ask for a credit card limit increase, usually

0:21:51.800 --> 0:21:55.560
<v Speaker 1>get that yeah. And episode ten we dedicated to how

0:21:55.600 --> 0:21:58.399
<v Speaker 1>to improve your credit score. Having a higher overall credit

0:21:58.440 --> 0:22:01.520
<v Speaker 1>card limit available to you helps your credit score, and so, uh,

0:22:01.560 --> 0:22:03.719
<v Speaker 1>the fact that most people are able to get that

0:22:03.800 --> 0:22:07.240
<v Speaker 1>if they ask is pretty cool. So that article really

0:22:07.320 --> 0:22:11.159
<v Speaker 1>helps solidifying my mind that that these aren't just odd

0:22:11.200 --> 0:22:13.560
<v Speaker 1>things that I do, but these are things that everyone

0:22:13.600 --> 0:22:16.399
<v Speaker 1>can be doing, and especially with credit card companies, for

0:22:16.440 --> 0:22:19.600
<v Speaker 1>the most part, you'll be met with the resounding yes. Yeah.

0:22:19.680 --> 0:22:21.920
<v Speaker 1>And something else man they covered in the article too,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought was super interesting was the fact that it

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<v Speaker 1>seems like from the research that they did was that

0:22:27.359 --> 0:22:31.359
<v Speaker 1>specifically with people that were in the Midwest, they haggle

0:22:31.520 --> 0:22:34.359
<v Speaker 1>way more than consumers of my kind of people, Salt

0:22:34.400 --> 0:22:37.159
<v Speaker 1>of the Earth baby, that folks that are in more

0:22:37.240 --> 0:22:40.080
<v Speaker 1>urban environments, you know, like in cities and uh, specifically

0:22:40.080 --> 0:22:41.760
<v Speaker 1>on the East coast. But yeah, I just found that

0:22:41.800 --> 0:22:43.960
<v Speaker 1>super interesting. They're just like I guess, folks in the

0:22:44.000 --> 0:22:46.440
<v Speaker 1>Midwest are just way more about just trying to strike

0:22:46.480 --> 0:22:48.399
<v Speaker 1>up a deal. You know. Well, it's interesting too, if

0:22:48.400 --> 0:22:50.280
<v Speaker 1>you've traveled too many places and gone to many flea

0:22:50.359 --> 0:22:54.320
<v Speaker 1>markets in other countries, you kind of see the different ethnicities,

0:22:54.320 --> 0:22:57.720
<v Speaker 1>different people groups tend to kind of assume a certain

0:22:57.760 --> 0:23:01.919
<v Speaker 1>amount of haggling, and other people groups, other other ethnicities,

0:23:01.960 --> 0:23:04.560
<v Speaker 1>other countries. It's kind of frowned upon it. It's right,

0:23:04.760 --> 0:23:07.080
<v Speaker 1>and uh, it's kind of interesting to see that too,

0:23:07.200 --> 0:23:10.119
<v Speaker 1>that if you just pay the asking price in a

0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:15.200
<v Speaker 1>place like China, they think you're an idiot because everybody negotiates.

0:23:15.280 --> 0:23:18.119
<v Speaker 1>Everybody haggles. I mean really, I feel like it's literally

0:23:18.119 --> 0:23:21.240
<v Speaker 1>almost in every country except for the US. I don't know,

0:23:21.280 --> 0:23:25.320
<v Speaker 1>maybe like US, the UK and France probably, yeah, most

0:23:25.359 --> 0:23:27.879
<v Speaker 1>any other country that's not super snooty. I feel like

0:23:27.920 --> 0:23:30.600
<v Speaker 1>they're all about haggling, which is more fun. I agree,

0:23:30.640 --> 0:23:32.800
<v Speaker 1>I think it's fun. Well let's keep moving then, right.

0:23:32.840 --> 0:23:34.480
<v Speaker 1>And so I think the biggest reason why a lot

0:23:34.520 --> 0:23:37.520
<v Speaker 1>of people don't like to ask for a discount is

0:23:37.520 --> 0:23:39.679
<v Speaker 1>because of rejection, right, I mean, I think that's one

0:23:39.720 --> 0:23:42.720
<v Speaker 1>of my biggest sort of concerns. I do ask for discounts,

0:23:42.720 --> 0:23:44.800
<v Speaker 1>but I don't think I feel as comfortable as you do.

0:23:45.400 --> 0:23:47.520
<v Speaker 1>I think that's kind of universal, right. Nobody likes to

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<v Speaker 1>ask for something and kind of put yourself out there

0:23:50.320 --> 0:23:52.600
<v Speaker 1>and then be told no, you know, it's just it sucks.

0:23:53.520 --> 0:23:55.560
<v Speaker 1>I definitely think that's the main reason that people don't

0:23:55.560 --> 0:23:58.400
<v Speaker 1>do it. I think it's either shyness or fear of rejection.

0:23:58.440 --> 0:24:00.720
<v Speaker 1>I think those are the two main reasons people decide

0:24:00.760 --> 0:24:03.359
<v Speaker 1>not to ask for a discount, or they're unwilling to

0:24:03.400 --> 0:24:07.120
<v Speaker 1>look like the person that broke the conventional rules. And so, yeah,

0:24:07.200 --> 0:24:09.520
<v Speaker 1>that's true, the rule of convention for like straight laced

0:24:09.920 --> 0:24:12.080
<v Speaker 1>folks that are like, oh, we don't ask for discounts,

0:24:12.680 --> 0:24:15.080
<v Speaker 1>they'll be offended if I ask for a discount, rice

0:24:15.280 --> 0:24:18.800
<v Speaker 1>or But let's dispel that rumor right now, most of

0:24:18.800 --> 0:24:21.800
<v Speaker 1>the time, no one is greatly offended that you Usually

0:24:21.960 --> 0:24:24.400
<v Speaker 1>businesses as well, right and most of time we're we're talking,

0:24:24.440 --> 0:24:27.920
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna be talking about businesses specifically. But a business

0:24:28.119 --> 0:24:31.760
<v Speaker 1>is not offended if you ask for a discount. And

0:24:31.840 --> 0:24:34.320
<v Speaker 1>lots of times you're asking the cashier or somebody like that,

0:24:34.640 --> 0:24:36.680
<v Speaker 1>who might have a few options to give you a discount,

0:24:36.720 --> 0:24:38.760
<v Speaker 1>or they might not. They might have some power or

0:24:38.760 --> 0:24:40.960
<v Speaker 1>they might have no power to give you a discount,

0:24:41.200 --> 0:24:44.600
<v Speaker 1>but ultimately they're not offended that you asked. They don't

0:24:44.600 --> 0:24:46.440
<v Speaker 1>really care. They just work for the company. They either

0:24:46.440 --> 0:24:48.840
<v Speaker 1>look at you and they say, no, I can't do that,

0:24:49.000 --> 0:24:50.879
<v Speaker 1>or well, let me see what I can do, and

0:24:50.880 --> 0:24:52.480
<v Speaker 1>so there's a option, or if there happens to be

0:24:52.520 --> 0:24:53.879
<v Speaker 1>a manager and they're like, let me just wipe my

0:24:53.920 --> 0:24:57.120
<v Speaker 1>card and sure, no one's asked me in like three years. Yeah,

0:24:57.280 --> 0:24:59.640
<v Speaker 1>but no one is. They're not offended at the fact

0:24:59.680 --> 0:25:01.840
<v Speaker 1>that you right, and you're still going to even if

0:25:01.840 --> 0:25:03.880
<v Speaker 1>you if you want to make the purchase anyway, you're

0:25:03.880 --> 0:25:05.440
<v Speaker 1>still gonna be able to make the purchase and walk

0:25:05.440 --> 0:25:07.160
<v Speaker 1>out of there with not hanging your head in shame

0:25:07.400 --> 0:25:10.280
<v Speaker 1>because no one cares that you asked nobody. Yeah, exactly,

0:25:10.320 --> 0:25:13.040
<v Speaker 1>nobody cares, and honestly to like, I think it's important

0:25:13.040 --> 0:25:15.200
<v Speaker 1>to keep in mind too that even though if they say,

0:25:15.200 --> 0:25:17.400
<v Speaker 1>you know that is a rejection, just keep in mind

0:25:17.440 --> 0:25:20.800
<v Speaker 1>that they're just saying no to your question. They're not

0:25:20.840 --> 0:25:23.160
<v Speaker 1>saying that like no to you is like a human being, right,

0:25:23.400 --> 0:25:27.200
<v Speaker 1>Like this isn't a counseling show, but like they're they're

0:25:27.240 --> 0:25:29.239
<v Speaker 1>saying no to your question. And then you can kind

0:25:29.240 --> 0:25:31.560
<v Speaker 1>of move on with life realizing that and just being like,

0:25:31.600 --> 0:25:33.360
<v Speaker 1>all right, this is sort of like this isolated thing.

0:25:33.720 --> 0:25:35.440
<v Speaker 1>If it doesn't work out, it's no big deal. Yeah,

0:25:35.440 --> 0:25:37.040
<v Speaker 1>And I mean I think to this extends to other

0:25:37.080 --> 0:25:39.919
<v Speaker 1>areas of life, right Like, so ultimately the advices go

0:25:40.040 --> 0:25:43.360
<v Speaker 1>after it, ask for the discount. And when it comes

0:25:43.400 --> 0:25:46.000
<v Speaker 1>to asking for a raise at work, asking for more money,

0:25:46.040 --> 0:25:48.679
<v Speaker 1>asking for a bonus. I know at times I've just

0:25:48.680 --> 0:25:50.840
<v Speaker 1>had to get over it, suck it up, and do

0:25:50.920 --> 0:25:53.280
<v Speaker 1>it because because you know what you want, because I

0:25:53.280 --> 0:25:54.879
<v Speaker 1>know what I want. I know, I feel like I

0:25:54.880 --> 0:25:57.920
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm worth. And so but studies consistently show

0:25:58.000 --> 0:26:01.479
<v Speaker 1>that people, especially when man sorry ladies are are not

0:26:01.640 --> 0:26:03.560
<v Speaker 1>good at asking for a raise at work. And so

0:26:03.600 --> 0:26:06.760
<v Speaker 1>hopefully this podcast, this episode gives you kind of that

0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:09.280
<v Speaker 1>little bit of gusto to go walk into your boss

0:26:09.320 --> 0:26:11.920
<v Speaker 1>with the knowledge, as we'll get to further on down

0:26:11.960 --> 0:26:15.120
<v Speaker 1>in the podcast, how to walk in there and and

0:26:15.160 --> 0:26:18.480
<v Speaker 1>ask for it appropriately, do it the right way. You

0:26:18.520 --> 0:26:20.160
<v Speaker 1>want to walk in there armed, and so we'll talk

0:26:20.200 --> 0:26:23.359
<v Speaker 1>about that in a second. But ultimately it extends to

0:26:23.400 --> 0:26:25.560
<v Speaker 1>these other areas of life too. And you want to

0:26:25.600 --> 0:26:28.400
<v Speaker 1>work the muscle of putting yourself out there because that's

0:26:28.400 --> 0:26:30.600
<v Speaker 1>just a good muscle to exercise and it's gonna benefit

0:26:30.720 --> 0:26:34.000
<v Speaker 1>you in a lot of arenas in life. Yeah, so

0:26:34.080 --> 0:26:35.800
<v Speaker 1>like going in and asking for that raise or the

0:26:35.880 --> 0:26:38.840
<v Speaker 1>promotion like that might be hard to do, Like if

0:26:38.880 --> 0:26:42.160
<v Speaker 1>you just have never asked somebody for something that where

0:26:42.160 --> 0:26:44.920
<v Speaker 1>you knew that that was gonna be a slam dunkey. Yes, right,

0:26:45.400 --> 0:26:47.880
<v Speaker 1>but honestly, yeah, like working the muscle, I think doing

0:26:47.960 --> 0:26:50.280
<v Speaker 1>something like this, like going into a store and asking

0:26:50.280 --> 0:26:51.879
<v Speaker 1>for a discount or seeing if you can get a

0:26:51.920 --> 0:26:54.320
<v Speaker 1>little free to be thrown in or something that kind

0:26:54.320 --> 0:26:56.879
<v Speaker 1>of prepares you and it's it's really is like muscle.

0:26:56.920 --> 0:26:59.960
<v Speaker 1>It's it's it's conditioning. And the more you get used

0:27:00.000 --> 0:27:02.359
<v Speaker 1>to doing something like that, the easier that it's going

0:27:02.440 --> 0:27:04.320
<v Speaker 1>to be when it comes time for something that's like

0:27:04.359 --> 0:27:07.880
<v Speaker 1>a little higher pressure, like specifically work related, where you're

0:27:08.000 --> 0:27:10.080
<v Speaker 1>you have to go to a boss or superior and

0:27:10.119 --> 0:27:12.280
<v Speaker 1>present that request or or and ask them for that.

0:27:12.880 --> 0:27:14.760
<v Speaker 1>I think it's gonna be a lot easier for you

0:27:15.080 --> 0:27:17.040
<v Speaker 1>if you've been haggling at the grocery store, you know,

0:27:17.200 --> 0:27:19.520
<v Speaker 1>or like at the even at the yard sale or yeah,

0:27:19.520 --> 0:27:23.159
<v Speaker 1>a couple of lemonade stand even, Well, don't berrate the

0:27:23.160 --> 0:27:25.600
<v Speaker 1>little eight year old that's trying to be making man.

0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:29.400
<v Speaker 1>That's like literally two ounces of alemates. You know that's

0:27:29.400 --> 0:27:32.160
<v Speaker 1>not cool that being said. Like that happened to me. Man.

0:27:32.200 --> 0:27:34.639
<v Speaker 1>The other like a few months ago, some kids were

0:27:34.640 --> 0:27:36.560
<v Speaker 1>selling lemonade and I was like, all right, you know whatever,

0:27:36.560 --> 0:27:38.800
<v Speaker 1>fifty cents or a dollar. The kid poured me like

0:27:38.880 --> 0:27:41.280
<v Speaker 1>two ounces, and I was just like, man, look, man,

0:27:41.320 --> 0:27:42.960
<v Speaker 1>can I get it like a little bit more because

0:27:43.359 --> 0:27:45.119
<v Speaker 1>I'll pay you know, I'll pay you what you're asking,

0:27:45.160 --> 0:27:47.800
<v Speaker 1>but I need. I'm thirsty, like I'm literally thirsty. And

0:27:47.800 --> 0:27:49.919
<v Speaker 1>then you wrote that bad review on Yelp, and that

0:27:50.040 --> 0:27:52.040
<v Speaker 1>was just that was unfair. Yeah. I called in the

0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:58.200
<v Speaker 1>Georgia Business License shut that kid down. Did joker wasn't licensed? Man? Yeah.

0:27:58.240 --> 0:28:00.359
<v Speaker 1>I think when you get a couple of wins under

0:28:00.359 --> 0:28:03.040
<v Speaker 1>your belt, it gives you the confidence then to pursue

0:28:03.080 --> 0:28:07.440
<v Speaker 1>asking for discounts on bigger purchases and then walking into

0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:09.040
<v Speaker 1>your boss and asking for the race. So I think

0:28:09.640 --> 0:28:12.640
<v Speaker 1>exercising this muscle, like we said, is such an important

0:28:12.680 --> 0:28:16.280
<v Speaker 1>thing because getting that affirmative response a few times is

0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:20.439
<v Speaker 1>this confidence building strategy that not only saves you money,

0:28:20.720 --> 0:28:23.000
<v Speaker 1>but it also kind of reinforces this good habit that's

0:28:23.040 --> 0:28:25.720
<v Speaker 1>going to benefit you in lots of other ways. Cool,

0:28:25.840 --> 0:28:27.800
<v Speaker 1>let's talk about how to ask for a discount, man,

0:28:27.840 --> 0:28:29.760
<v Speaker 1>you want to kick it off. Yeah, the first thing

0:28:29.960 --> 0:28:31.440
<v Speaker 1>that you have to do. There's a lot of other

0:28:31.440 --> 0:28:32.879
<v Speaker 1>good tips in here, but the first thing you have

0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:36.600
<v Speaker 1>to do is be prepared with the proper information. If

0:28:36.640 --> 0:28:39.080
<v Speaker 1>that's asking for a raise, then you want to know

0:28:39.240 --> 0:28:43.800
<v Speaker 1>what people of similar ilk in your profession and get paid.

0:28:44.160 --> 0:28:47.960
<v Speaker 1>If that's asking for a discount on a propane tank

0:28:48.040 --> 0:28:51.160
<v Speaker 1>refill like I just did the other day at Kroger,

0:28:51.520 --> 0:28:53.560
<v Speaker 1>you want to know what another store is charging. You

0:28:53.560 --> 0:28:55.320
<v Speaker 1>want to be armed with that information. You want to

0:28:55.320 --> 0:28:58.160
<v Speaker 1>have it maybe on your smartphone, at your fingertips. You

0:28:58.160 --> 0:29:00.800
<v Speaker 1>want to be able to quickly recite a reason why

0:29:00.880 --> 0:29:02.560
<v Speaker 1>you should be getting that discount. And if you're not

0:29:02.600 --> 0:29:06.360
<v Speaker 1>prepared with the information, your request for that discount is

0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:09.320
<v Speaker 1>likely going to fall on deaf ears. Yeah, So specifically

0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:11.280
<v Speaker 1>to that, a lot of companies price match now right,

0:29:11.320 --> 0:29:13.680
<v Speaker 1>like it's store policy. If you knew that and you

0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:16.160
<v Speaker 1>went in and you had like a competitor's rates, well

0:29:16.200 --> 0:29:18.800
<v Speaker 1>then boom, you've got your as your leverage. Yeah. And

0:29:18.840 --> 0:29:22.120
<v Speaker 1>so particularly I think the best price matching policy is

0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:24.920
<v Speaker 1>at home depot. If their competitor has a better price,

0:29:25.280 --> 0:29:28.840
<v Speaker 1>they will beat it by right, And so most people

0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:31.680
<v Speaker 1>just price match exactly the same amount. So let's say

0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:34.600
<v Speaker 1>you didn't want to drive to Walmart, the targets closer

0:29:34.640 --> 0:29:37.000
<v Speaker 1>target will price match. That's cool, you got the same price.

0:29:37.000 --> 0:29:39.560
<v Speaker 1>You didn't have to drive us far. But home depot,

0:29:39.840 --> 0:29:42.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm saving an extra ten percent on top of what

0:29:42.760 --> 0:29:48.280
<v Speaker 1>their closest competitor usually lows is charging. And so yeah,

0:29:48.520 --> 0:29:51.400
<v Speaker 1>so those kind of discounts are already built into the equation.

0:29:51.560 --> 0:29:55.520
<v Speaker 1>They know it's listed on their website, so know the

0:29:55.560 --> 0:29:57.760
<v Speaker 1>store's policy as well. That's another great thing to be

0:29:57.840 --> 0:30:00.760
<v Speaker 1>armed with what their policy allows for. So, for instance,

0:30:00.800 --> 0:30:02.600
<v Speaker 1>I mentioned I went into Kroger to try to get

0:30:02.600 --> 0:30:06.360
<v Speaker 1>a price match on a propane tank refill, and I

0:30:06.440 --> 0:30:08.720
<v Speaker 1>knew that from their website they didn't seem to be

0:30:09.720 --> 0:30:11.920
<v Speaker 1>huge into the price matching thing. They didn't tout it.

0:30:12.320 --> 0:30:14.200
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't sure they did it at all, but I

0:30:14.640 --> 0:30:17.200
<v Speaker 1>see that being like a Kroger priority right to be

0:30:17.240 --> 0:30:19.640
<v Speaker 1>honest with. But you know, I still had the gall

0:30:20.280 --> 0:30:21.760
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, you gotta gotta go for it, man, you

0:30:21.760 --> 0:30:23.200
<v Speaker 1>gotta ask to ask for it. Anyway, I had it

0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:25.240
<v Speaker 1>pulled up on my phone. Hey, here's what Walmart charges.

0:30:25.640 --> 0:30:28.040
<v Speaker 1>And you know what, I wasn't successful that time, but

0:30:28.120 --> 0:30:31.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm often successful, uh in these strategies work out for me.

0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:33.960
<v Speaker 1>But you have to be armed with the information and

0:30:34.000 --> 0:30:36.720
<v Speaker 1>you have to be ready to show someone a web

0:30:36.760 --> 0:30:41.760
<v Speaker 1>page or their own store policy or a coupon or something. Yeah, yep, exactly. Yeah,

0:30:41.800 --> 0:30:44.360
<v Speaker 1>that's like your AMMO. That's how you like arrive ready.

0:30:44.440 --> 0:30:46.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't want to present like a battle.

0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:48.880
<v Speaker 1>It's not like a fight, but like literally that's what

0:30:48.920 --> 0:30:51.080
<v Speaker 1>you're presenting to kind of present your case. But I

0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:53.240
<v Speaker 1>think what you said to man, that's that's that's so clutch.

0:30:53.760 --> 0:30:56.240
<v Speaker 1>You still went for it, and honestly too. That's again

0:30:56.320 --> 0:30:58.600
<v Speaker 1>this is like an overarching thing. But the whole reason

0:30:58.840 --> 0:31:00.640
<v Speaker 1>you need to ask for a disk count, right, like

0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:02.120
<v Speaker 1>we're talking, we're saying how this is like the art

0:31:02.160 --> 0:31:04.600
<v Speaker 1>of asking for a discount, is that if you don't ask,

0:31:04.760 --> 0:31:06.720
<v Speaker 1>the answer is already going to be no. If you

0:31:06.760 --> 0:31:10.320
<v Speaker 1>don't ask, you're not going to get the discount. So

0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:13.280
<v Speaker 1>may as well just try, even if it seems like

0:31:13.360 --> 0:31:16.600
<v Speaker 1>it's Kroger and they don't really give a damn. And

0:31:16.680 --> 0:31:19.440
<v Speaker 1>so you're just gonna have to get your propane at

0:31:19.480 --> 0:31:23.680
<v Speaker 1>full price. So you also want to be human, smile,

0:31:23.880 --> 0:31:27.000
<v Speaker 1>be kind. Nobody wants to help or do a favor

0:31:27.080 --> 0:31:30.440
<v Speaker 1>for a jerk, So you can't go in expecting that

0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:32.680
<v Speaker 1>they're going to give a discount. You can go in hoping,

0:31:32.920 --> 0:31:35.040
<v Speaker 1>and you can go in armed with the proper information,

0:31:35.440 --> 0:31:37.400
<v Speaker 1>but you're gonna want to be kind and treat that

0:31:37.400 --> 0:31:40.680
<v Speaker 1>person like a human and ask them nicely. You just

0:31:40.720 --> 0:31:43.560
<v Speaker 1>need to like, yeah, be cool. I came across this

0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:46.080
<v Speaker 1>quote as well online that I thought it was awesome.

0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:49.320
<v Speaker 1>Her name is Amanda Palmer, and she was specifically talking

0:31:49.360 --> 0:31:51.720
<v Speaker 1>about kind of asking people, like making requests of people,

0:31:51.720 --> 0:31:54.480
<v Speaker 1>not specifically for like a discount, but you know, this

0:31:54.560 --> 0:31:56.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of fits in the same vein. And she said

0:31:56.840 --> 0:32:00.240
<v Speaker 1>that through the act of asking people, I connect with them,

0:32:00.280 --> 0:32:04.920
<v Speaker 1>and when you connect with them, people want to help you. Yeah,

0:32:04.920 --> 0:32:06.960
<v Speaker 1>and so it kind of it's it seems counterintuitive, and

0:32:07.000 --> 0:32:08.719
<v Speaker 1>that's what she was talking about. She's specifically, I think

0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:11.320
<v Speaker 1>she was addressing like singers and songwriters, you know, artists,

0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:14.239
<v Speaker 1>But it kind of seems counterintuitive to think that, well,

0:32:14.280 --> 0:32:17.080
<v Speaker 1>when you ask somebody, oh, their natural inclination is gonna

0:32:17.080 --> 0:32:18.880
<v Speaker 1>want to be to like recoil, you know, be like

0:32:18.920 --> 0:32:21.600
<v Speaker 1>oh no, thank you, you know, sorry. But but what

0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:23.200
<v Speaker 1>she was saying is that what she finds is that

0:32:23.280 --> 0:32:25.200
<v Speaker 1>by asking people like you're able to kind of connect

0:32:25.240 --> 0:32:27.680
<v Speaker 1>with them on a sort of human level. And when

0:32:27.760 --> 0:32:30.479
<v Speaker 1>you do that, you're known and you're kind of going

0:32:30.520 --> 0:32:32.680
<v Speaker 1>out there and you're putting putting yourself out there and

0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:35.320
<v Speaker 1>then people want to help you. That just really resonated

0:32:35.360 --> 0:32:36.720
<v Speaker 1>with with me when I read that, I just thought

0:32:36.720 --> 0:32:39.560
<v Speaker 1>it was awesome. But I think especially if you're honest,

0:32:40.000 --> 0:32:43.320
<v Speaker 1>earnest and direct, right, and if you if you act

0:32:43.360 --> 0:32:46.960
<v Speaker 1>like that, if you walk in and you are direct

0:32:47.400 --> 0:32:50.760
<v Speaker 1>with your need, with your desire, um, don't talk in

0:32:50.920 --> 0:32:56.760
<v Speaker 1>circles about what you want. People respond to you when

0:32:56.960 --> 0:33:01.320
<v Speaker 1>you approached them from a standpoint of not trying to

0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:03.920
<v Speaker 1>rip them off, not trying to get something that you

0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:09.720
<v Speaker 1>don't deserve, but kindly asking for something that seems reasonable. Yeah.

0:33:10.040 --> 0:33:11.760
<v Speaker 1>Well that's the other thing too, is it just that

0:33:12.280 --> 0:33:15.680
<v Speaker 1>asking for a discount is kind of a rare thing, right,

0:33:16.000 --> 0:33:17.600
<v Speaker 1>Like if you're just kind of talking your way around

0:33:18.000 --> 0:33:20.000
<v Speaker 1>a topic with a salesperson, like they're not going to

0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:22.280
<v Speaker 1>know what you're looking for, you know, And so I

0:33:22.320 --> 0:33:24.320
<v Speaker 1>think literally just to be like, hey, look, I'll be honest,

0:33:24.400 --> 0:33:26.440
<v Speaker 1>this is my budget, or look, I'm just trying to

0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:29.080
<v Speaker 1>get a deal. I love this product, whatever it happens

0:33:29.120 --> 0:33:31.680
<v Speaker 1>to be being direct and letting just letting them know

0:33:31.720 --> 0:33:33.920
<v Speaker 1>what you want, because they might immediately be like, look, no,

0:33:33.960 --> 0:33:35.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, I just I literally don't have the power

0:33:35.960 --> 0:33:37.960
<v Speaker 1>to do that. I can't help you. Cool, Well, you

0:33:37.960 --> 0:33:39.920
<v Speaker 1>don't need to waste your time, like, no one's got

0:33:39.920 --> 0:33:41.960
<v Speaker 1>time for that, right right, But if you're able to

0:33:42.040 --> 0:33:44.440
<v Speaker 1>kind of connect with them on a human level, then

0:33:44.680 --> 0:33:47.400
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna help you out. Yeah. One quick example, Matt

0:33:47.400 --> 0:33:49.360
<v Speaker 1>was when Emily and I were shopping for a couch

0:33:49.440 --> 0:33:52.320
<v Speaker 1>right before we got married, uh, for my new house

0:33:52.400 --> 0:33:54.840
<v Speaker 1>and furniture shopping and what was about to be engaged

0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:57.400
<v Speaker 1>and what was about to be our new house. And

0:33:57.440 --> 0:33:59.400
<v Speaker 1>we went to Creton Barrel and we were looking at

0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:02.360
<v Speaker 1>the cleanerance section of furniture that they had there. We

0:34:02.400 --> 0:34:05.640
<v Speaker 1>found this couch. Ob Yeah, and we found this couch

0:34:05.720 --> 0:34:08.480
<v Speaker 1>that we loved. It was really cool, totally in our style,

0:34:09.200 --> 0:34:12.000
<v Speaker 1>and I think it was regularly a four thousand dollar

0:34:12.080 --> 0:34:15.919
<v Speaker 1>couch marked down to something like four that's a great price.

0:34:15.960 --> 0:34:18.600
<v Speaker 1>That's a great discount. Still out of our price range, yes,

0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:22.080
<v Speaker 1>still a price of couch. And so we had decided

0:34:22.120 --> 0:34:24.719
<v Speaker 1>we had eight hundred dollars to spend. So I asked

0:34:24.719 --> 0:34:27.319
<v Speaker 1>the sales associate, is there any chance that you can

0:34:27.360 --> 0:34:31.480
<v Speaker 1>discount this couch any further? And they said, well, we

0:34:31.520 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 1>could take two more off, but but that's it. And

0:34:34.719 --> 0:34:37.320
<v Speaker 1>I asked if there was a chance of it getting

0:34:37.320 --> 0:34:39.719
<v Speaker 1>further reduced in the near future, and she said, every

0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:43.319
<v Speaker 1>week they take stock of their inventory and decide how

0:34:43.400 --> 0:34:45.839
<v Speaker 1>much further they're going to market down. So we'll call

0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:49.080
<v Speaker 1>back Wednesday and ask. So I called back Wednesday and

0:34:49.120 --> 0:34:50.879
<v Speaker 1>they still weren't ready to market down to the price

0:34:50.920 --> 0:34:52.920
<v Speaker 1>that I wanted. And then I called back the following

0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:56.719
<v Speaker 1>Wednesday and they were. And so if I hadn't asked

0:34:56.719 --> 0:34:58.239
<v Speaker 1>for the discount, if I had just seen the price

0:34:58.280 --> 0:35:01.040
<v Speaker 1>tag and walked away, we never would have gotten that couch.

0:35:01.120 --> 0:35:03.440
<v Speaker 1>And we're so excited to get it. Plus you get

0:35:03.440 --> 0:35:05.239
<v Speaker 1>the like sort of rush of like getting a great

0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:08.360
<v Speaker 1>deal too, right, Oh, totally totally yeah, I totally probabe

0:35:08.400 --> 0:35:11.400
<v Speaker 1>on that. Uh, but it's such a good lesson for

0:35:11.440 --> 0:35:15.319
<v Speaker 1>me that asking, even at a kind of fancy place

0:35:15.320 --> 0:35:18.080
<v Speaker 1>of business like Crate and Barrel, asking them for the

0:35:18.120 --> 0:35:21.719
<v Speaker 1>discount and then finding that it actually, you know, in

0:35:21.760 --> 0:35:23.359
<v Speaker 1>the long run, it didn't work right then and there,

0:35:23.480 --> 0:35:26.440
<v Speaker 1>but it's this kind of lesson in patience and asking

0:35:26.840 --> 0:35:29.640
<v Speaker 1>and seeing what happens. And the people there were super

0:35:29.640 --> 0:35:31.640
<v Speaker 1>happy to help. And it took a little bit longer

0:35:31.640 --> 0:35:33.640
<v Speaker 1>than I thought. Most times when I asked for a discount,

0:35:33.640 --> 0:35:36.040
<v Speaker 1>it's a little more instantaneous yes or no. But that

0:35:36.080 --> 0:35:37.320
<v Speaker 1>was kind of fun that we got the couch we

0:35:37.360 --> 0:35:39.760
<v Speaker 1>wanted at the price we wanted. And if we hadn't

0:35:39.800 --> 0:35:41.919
<v Speaker 1>asked we want, seen the price tag and walked away,

0:35:42.000 --> 0:35:44.520
<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't happened. Yeah, exactly, man, just being direct, right,

0:35:44.520 --> 0:35:46.160
<v Speaker 1>and so like because of that, they were able to

0:35:46.200 --> 0:35:47.640
<v Speaker 1>let you know that, like, hey, look, this is how

0:35:47.680 --> 0:35:49.239
<v Speaker 1>it works. It's almost like they kind of gave you

0:35:49.239 --> 0:35:51.040
<v Speaker 1>a peek behind the curtain. They're like, this is how

0:35:51.080 --> 0:35:54.399
<v Speaker 1>we do it every week on Wednesdays, I guess they

0:35:54.520 --> 0:35:57.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of reevaluate, uh, take stock of inventory. That's a

0:35:57.640 --> 0:35:58.960
<v Speaker 1>good way to do it. And you wouldn't have known

0:35:59.000 --> 0:36:00.360
<v Speaker 1>that had you not just sort of right up to

0:36:00.400 --> 0:36:02.960
<v Speaker 1>ask exactly and kind of on the flip side of

0:36:02.960 --> 0:36:04.960
<v Speaker 1>that though, if I mean if they say no, if

0:36:05.000 --> 0:36:06.400
<v Speaker 1>you're out there shop and you need to be willing

0:36:06.400 --> 0:36:09.440
<v Speaker 1>to walk, Yeah, And for me that means too that

0:36:09.480 --> 0:36:12.080
<v Speaker 1>you have to note the price point of the item

0:36:12.080 --> 0:36:15.279
<v Speaker 1>that you're asking about the discount for, and how much

0:36:15.320 --> 0:36:17.319
<v Speaker 1>it might be sold for other places or what that's

0:36:17.320 --> 0:36:20.480
<v Speaker 1>going for having that knowledge, and so you have to

0:36:20.520 --> 0:36:24.200
<v Speaker 1>be willing to walk. And I think sometimes people sometimes

0:36:24.239 --> 0:36:26.400
<v Speaker 1>they'll call your bluff. Sometimes they'll call your bluff and

0:36:26.600 --> 0:36:28.480
<v Speaker 1>you need to just high tail it out of there.

0:36:28.880 --> 0:36:31.759
<v Speaker 1>And this applies to too if you get the deal

0:36:31.840 --> 0:36:33.279
<v Speaker 1>or if you don't get the deal, right, Like, if

0:36:33.280 --> 0:36:35.080
<v Speaker 1>you get the deal, then sweet, you need to definitely

0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:37.759
<v Speaker 1>be gracious and thankful. But even if you don't get

0:36:37.800 --> 0:36:40.040
<v Speaker 1>the deal, you don't need a pout and like storm

0:36:40.040 --> 0:36:43.680
<v Speaker 1>out the store and like knock something over or leave

0:36:43.719 --> 0:36:45.640
<v Speaker 1>a bad review on Yelp or something you know awful,

0:36:45.680 --> 0:36:47.919
<v Speaker 1>like we're joking about it, like the Molotov cocktail to place,

0:36:48.040 --> 0:36:53.359
<v Speaker 1>or get too crazy, gonna burn this mother down. You're

0:36:53.360 --> 0:36:55.160
<v Speaker 1>all gonna pay for this. You'll regret that you said

0:36:55.200 --> 0:36:57.480
<v Speaker 1>no to me. Yeah, exactly, know, like you need to

0:36:57.480 --> 0:37:00.520
<v Speaker 1>be human, you need to be cool and being a

0:37:00.520 --> 0:37:02.239
<v Speaker 1>decent human being. That's that's a huge part of that.

0:37:02.480 --> 0:37:04.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I mean I think, you know, going back

0:37:04.200 --> 0:37:07.200
<v Speaker 1>to what we talked about originally the This American Life episode,

0:37:07.200 --> 0:37:09.439
<v Speaker 1>the good guy discount, I think kind of that gets

0:37:09.480 --> 0:37:11.520
<v Speaker 1>at the heart of it. Uh, that that he said,

0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:13.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, you're a good guy. I'm a good guy?

0:37:13.680 --> 0:37:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Can I get the good guy discount? Again? A terrible

0:37:16.520 --> 0:37:19.520
<v Speaker 1>way to ask. I think it's super awkward, but it

0:37:19.560 --> 0:37:22.200
<v Speaker 1>should be the thing that is unsaid. It's kind of

0:37:22.239 --> 0:37:24.399
<v Speaker 1>brilliant though, because it does put the person who's being

0:37:24.440 --> 0:37:27.359
<v Speaker 1>asked at ease because they think that like, Okay, well

0:37:27.360 --> 0:37:30.440
<v Speaker 1>this guy is nice. He's not gonna punch punch me

0:37:30.560 --> 0:37:33.920
<v Speaker 1>or anything, but be nice without saying it. Hey, by

0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:35.200
<v Speaker 1>the way, I'm a nice guy, can you give me

0:37:35.200 --> 0:37:38.480
<v Speaker 1>a discount? Coman almost I'm an honest guy, because when

0:37:38.560 --> 0:37:41.439
<v Speaker 1>you say tell me that you're honest or that you're nice,

0:37:41.840 --> 0:37:44.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm automatically going to kind of probably assume the opposite.

0:37:44.520 --> 0:37:47.200
<v Speaker 1>So just be nice and don't say it out loud.

0:37:47.760 --> 0:37:50.640
<v Speaker 1>So quickly, Matt, let's talk about online ordering and kind

0:37:50.640 --> 0:37:52.400
<v Speaker 1>of how to do the discount. I feel like a

0:37:52.400 --> 0:37:55.120
<v Speaker 1>lot of these things have applied to in person asking

0:37:55.120 --> 0:37:57.399
<v Speaker 1>for disco which is the hardest thing, which I mean,

0:37:57.400 --> 0:37:58.759
<v Speaker 1>so it's why we wanted to spend the most time

0:37:58.800 --> 0:38:01.160
<v Speaker 1>talking about this because that's think for most folks, that's

0:38:01.200 --> 0:38:04.399
<v Speaker 1>the most difficult thing is looking at another human being

0:38:04.440 --> 0:38:06.799
<v Speaker 1>in the eye, asking them a question with that's all

0:38:06.840 --> 0:38:09.359
<v Speaker 1>the hard work of trying to get a discount in person. Yeah,

0:38:09.400 --> 0:38:11.840
<v Speaker 1>it's almost a bit easier to do online. Yeah, but

0:38:11.880 --> 0:38:14.880
<v Speaker 1>there's definitely some techniques and some strategies that work great

0:38:14.920 --> 0:38:17.719
<v Speaker 1>for online shopping. Yeah. So the first thing to do

0:38:17.920 --> 0:38:20.919
<v Speaker 1>is really almost not like asking at all. It's kind

0:38:20.920 --> 0:38:23.640
<v Speaker 1>of just a quick Google search and websites like retell

0:38:23.640 --> 0:38:25.880
<v Speaker 1>me not or just googling a discount code for a

0:38:25.920 --> 0:38:29.480
<v Speaker 1>company is kind of equivalent to asking for the discount,

0:38:29.719 --> 0:38:33.640
<v Speaker 1>but it's really no human interaction involved. And lots of

0:38:33.640 --> 0:38:37.239
<v Speaker 1>times you can find t discount on something that you're

0:38:37.360 --> 0:38:40.960
<v Speaker 1>ordering from a website that you like, and if you

0:38:40.960 --> 0:38:44.399
<v Speaker 1>skip that search process, you don't get the discount. Yeah,

0:38:44.440 --> 0:38:45.799
<v Speaker 1>you don't even have to talk to him, but either

0:38:46.480 --> 0:38:48.880
<v Speaker 1>it's so easy. So that's another way too, is just

0:38:48.920 --> 0:38:52.200
<v Speaker 1>to hit up a company's Twitter account or like a

0:38:52.239 --> 0:38:54.160
<v Speaker 1>lot of companies as well that are sort of service

0:38:54.360 --> 0:38:57.440
<v Speaker 1>oriented or service related, they have like the chat now box,

0:38:57.960 --> 0:39:00.480
<v Speaker 1>and man, I really don't use that at hunt. Do

0:39:00.520 --> 0:39:03.040
<v Speaker 1>you use that a lot? I will say, especially with

0:39:03.080 --> 0:39:04.680
<v Speaker 1>like my bank and some other things where I had

0:39:04.800 --> 0:39:08.200
<v Speaker 1>questions cell phone provider for me, Oh yeah, they always

0:39:08.239 --> 0:39:10.319
<v Speaker 1>have that, like how can I help you today? It's

0:39:10.360 --> 0:39:12.920
<v Speaker 1>been great. And what's great about that too is this documented.

0:39:13.480 --> 0:39:15.440
<v Speaker 1>Uh it's up there, and I always like screenshot it

0:39:15.560 --> 0:39:17.439
<v Speaker 1>or save it and sometimes even have the option where

0:39:17.440 --> 0:39:18.840
<v Speaker 1>it's like, you know, would you like to say this

0:39:19.000 --> 0:39:22.720
<v Speaker 1>this conversation? Yeah, it's it's uh saved in your Twitter

0:39:22.760 --> 0:39:25.400
<v Speaker 1>direct messages too, and so oh yeah, I think in Twitter.

0:39:25.520 --> 0:39:27.840
<v Speaker 1>In our Monthly Bills episode, we talked about, you know,

0:39:27.880 --> 0:39:31.200
<v Speaker 1>asking for a discount from your cable provider or internet

0:39:31.200 --> 0:39:33.760
<v Speaker 1>provider and how Twitter is one of the best places

0:39:34.160 --> 0:39:36.400
<v Speaker 1>to do that, and so asking for a discount on Twitter.

0:39:36.760 --> 0:39:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Direct tweeting at the company or direct messaging a company

0:39:40.000 --> 0:39:42.720
<v Speaker 1>that you like and follow can be a good tactic

0:39:43.160 --> 0:39:45.880
<v Speaker 1>to ask for, you know, a ten percent cubant code

0:39:46.000 --> 0:39:48.560
<v Speaker 1>off the item that you're considering buying. Or maybe asking

0:39:48.600 --> 0:39:50.480
<v Speaker 1>for free shipping if that's not something that they offer.

0:39:50.680 --> 0:39:53.319
<v Speaker 1>Those are kind of easy things to ask for that

0:39:53.480 --> 0:39:55.879
<v Speaker 1>a company is more than willing to do in many

0:39:55.920 --> 0:39:58.239
<v Speaker 1>cases in order to make that sale. Yeah, make that sale,

0:39:58.320 --> 0:40:00.480
<v Speaker 1>keep a customer happy. So what would you do then

0:40:00.600 --> 0:40:02.799
<v Speaker 1>if there isn't a chat box or if you can't

0:40:02.840 --> 0:40:06.120
<v Speaker 1>hit him any up online, look for an email address

0:40:06.160 --> 0:40:08.920
<v Speaker 1>to the company. And the bummer about that is sometimes

0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:10.799
<v Speaker 1>it takes longer and you might have to hold off

0:40:10.800 --> 0:40:14.080
<v Speaker 1>on your purchase. But I did this recently when we

0:40:14.080 --> 0:40:17.160
<v Speaker 1>were forming our own LLC, right, the poor not poor

0:40:17.520 --> 0:40:20.880
<v Speaker 1>LLC Boom, we're incorporated, that's right. So trying to sue us,

0:40:20.880 --> 0:40:25.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, wait, no, don't But so Mama says, we're botafied.

0:40:26.040 --> 0:40:29.000
<v Speaker 1>We were doing it the cheap way through legal zoom

0:40:29.080 --> 0:40:31.520
<v Speaker 1>dot com, which is great for kind of d I

0:40:31.680 --> 0:40:34.720
<v Speaker 1>Y legal services or getting super cheap help. And so

0:40:34.960 --> 0:40:36.719
<v Speaker 1>come on, we're poor, not poor. We're not. We're not

0:40:36.760 --> 0:40:40.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna like hire a legit attorney. Right Still, I draw

0:40:40.520 --> 0:40:43.279
<v Speaker 1>the papers together. But so they I had seen in

0:40:43.320 --> 0:40:45.120
<v Speaker 1>the past that they had coupon codes after I did

0:40:45.160 --> 0:40:47.080
<v Speaker 1>a little Google search, like they have some they're just

0:40:47.160 --> 0:40:49.520
<v Speaker 1>inactive at the time, so I couldn't find one that

0:40:49.600 --> 0:40:51.800
<v Speaker 1>was current, and so I decided to shoot an email

0:40:51.840 --> 0:40:54.359
<v Speaker 1>to legal Zoom's email address. Took a couple of days

0:40:54.360 --> 0:40:56.439
<v Speaker 1>for them to get back to me, but they said, hey,

0:40:56.480 --> 0:40:59.759
<v Speaker 1>thanks for writing in. Here's a cupon code for off

0:41:00.239 --> 0:41:03.319
<v Speaker 1>nice and so that's saved saved us some money, and

0:41:03.400 --> 0:41:05.479
<v Speaker 1>it was worth wait in two days because it wasn't

0:41:05.520 --> 0:41:08.680
<v Speaker 1>like we need needed to do it right then and there. Um,

0:41:08.760 --> 0:41:10.799
<v Speaker 1>And so I would say, yeah, email is great. It's

0:41:10.800 --> 0:41:13.680
<v Speaker 1>a little bit slower, but sometimes that can be worthwhile too.

0:41:13.880 --> 0:41:16.080
<v Speaker 1>And if I hadn't asked, we would have paid full price.

0:41:16.680 --> 0:41:19.440
<v Speaker 1>Thanks for saving me twelve fifty buddy, you got it, man,

0:41:19.760 --> 0:41:22.319
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm here for. So hopefully those were some

0:41:22.400 --> 0:41:26.560
<v Speaker 1>like helpful actionable items. Right, In general, asking for a

0:41:26.560 --> 0:41:29.319
<v Speaker 1>discount kind of takes more of like a salesman sort

0:41:29.320 --> 0:41:31.759
<v Speaker 1>of mentality, right, Um, I think if you're sort of

0:41:31.760 --> 0:41:34.319
<v Speaker 1>in that industry, asking for a discount might come a

0:41:34.320 --> 0:41:36.919
<v Speaker 1>little bit easier. Um, and I dode. I think this

0:41:36.960 --> 0:41:38.960
<v Speaker 1>is also why this is harder for a lot of

0:41:39.000 --> 0:41:41.000
<v Speaker 1>folks who are kind of artists or if they own

0:41:41.040 --> 0:41:44.240
<v Speaker 1>their own business, because that's just not how their brain works,

0:41:44.719 --> 0:41:46.719
<v Speaker 1>and because of that, it's harder. I think they a

0:41:46.800 --> 0:41:48.799
<v Speaker 1>lot of artists and people that are producing like a

0:41:48.800 --> 0:41:50.759
<v Speaker 1>product or something that they're putting out there just think, well,

0:41:51.040 --> 0:41:53.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna focus on that and then that like

0:41:53.360 --> 0:41:56.160
<v Speaker 1>people will come, it'll be found. But that's not how

0:41:56.200 --> 0:41:57.960
<v Speaker 1>it works when it comes to asking for a discount,

0:41:57.960 --> 0:41:59.839
<v Speaker 1>like you have to ask. Yeah, that's true if it's

0:42:00.400 --> 0:42:02.239
<v Speaker 1>natural for you to ask for a discount, if you're

0:42:02.280 --> 0:42:04.399
<v Speaker 1>not like in a sales job or in that sort

0:42:04.440 --> 0:42:06.920
<v Speaker 1>of environment and you feel like you are more like

0:42:06.960 --> 0:42:09.799
<v Speaker 1>that artist type where it's a little awkward and it's

0:42:09.840 --> 0:42:13.239
<v Speaker 1>not your natural inclination. Remember, it is a muscle that

0:42:13.280 --> 0:42:17.080
<v Speaker 1>you need to exercise and start small, ask for something little,

0:42:17.520 --> 0:42:20.680
<v Speaker 1>and each time that you get a yes, it builds

0:42:20.719 --> 0:42:23.359
<v Speaker 1>that confidence just a little bit. So first ask via

0:42:23.400 --> 0:42:26.360
<v Speaker 1>email or something like that or via twitter. Uh. Starts small,

0:42:26.920 --> 0:42:29.520
<v Speaker 1>ask for something little, and every time that you get

0:42:29.520 --> 0:42:32.160
<v Speaker 1>a yes, boom, it's that move in the right direction

0:42:32.280 --> 0:42:34.480
<v Speaker 1>and that muscle gets a little bit stronger and you

0:42:34.480 --> 0:42:36.600
<v Speaker 1>feel like you can ask for something a little bit bigger,

0:42:36.880 --> 0:42:38.560
<v Speaker 1>or maybe do it in person next time at a

0:42:38.600 --> 0:42:41.320
<v Speaker 1>story you're at yeah, And kind of along those lines

0:42:41.360 --> 0:42:43.920
<v Speaker 1>as well is the ability and working the muscle to

0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:46.080
<v Speaker 1>say no. And so I guess I'll start kind of

0:42:46.080 --> 0:42:47.600
<v Speaker 1>thinking down this path a little bit. So you know,

0:42:47.640 --> 0:42:51.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm a small business owner, I'm a creative, and sometimes

0:42:51.040 --> 0:42:54.800
<v Speaker 1>I get asked for discounts, and I think, man, sometimes

0:42:54.880 --> 0:42:56.960
<v Speaker 1>creatives get sort of been out of shape when they

0:42:57.000 --> 0:42:59.279
<v Speaker 1>are asked that because they think, oh, man, like they

0:42:59.280 --> 0:43:01.560
<v Speaker 1>don't respect my work, like they don't value what I do,

0:43:02.560 --> 0:43:05.799
<v Speaker 1>and it kind of ruins their whole attitude for the

0:43:05.880 --> 0:43:09.960
<v Speaker 1>day or for that customer specifically. Right when I think

0:43:09.960 --> 0:43:11.680
<v Speaker 1>I've been in it long enough now that I realized

0:43:11.719 --> 0:43:13.600
<v Speaker 1>that it's fine to ask for a discount, Like sure,

0:43:13.640 --> 0:43:16.480
<v Speaker 1>anybody can ask me a discount, I might say no.

0:43:17.320 --> 0:43:20.160
<v Speaker 1>And so I think that's sort of on the flip

0:43:20.200 --> 0:43:22.720
<v Speaker 1>side of it, right, build that muscle and get stronger,

0:43:23.080 --> 0:43:26.080
<v Speaker 1>get more used to asking for a discount. But if

0:43:26.120 --> 0:43:27.759
<v Speaker 1>you're on the flip side of that, if you're someone

0:43:27.800 --> 0:43:30.560
<v Speaker 1>that provides a service or someone that sells a product,

0:43:31.160 --> 0:43:33.160
<v Speaker 1>you also need to sort of build the muscle and

0:43:33.480 --> 0:43:35.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of have the ability to lay boundaries and say

0:43:36.040 --> 0:43:39.319
<v Speaker 1>no when you know that it's not either appropriate, or

0:43:39.400 --> 0:43:43.200
<v Speaker 1>it's not best for the business or even for personal reasons,

0:43:43.239 --> 0:43:45.280
<v Speaker 1>like if they came in demanding it or something and

0:43:45.280 --> 0:43:47.040
<v Speaker 1>they seem entitled, and if it's not something you want

0:43:47.040 --> 0:43:50.600
<v Speaker 1>to compromise on, then I think that's something that is

0:43:50.920 --> 0:43:54.359
<v Speaker 1>very worthwhile to sort of build up and get used

0:43:54.400 --> 0:43:56.919
<v Speaker 1>to doing, because otherwise you're just gonna get walked all over.

0:43:57.440 --> 0:44:00.400
<v Speaker 1>And as a creative and as like an entrepreneur, they're like,

0:44:00.400 --> 0:44:02.920
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing that sort of dampens that fire to want

0:44:02.920 --> 0:44:05.320
<v Speaker 1>to do that than feeling like everyone's just trying to

0:44:05.360 --> 0:44:09.000
<v Speaker 1>like screw you over. So question for you, have you

0:44:09.080 --> 0:44:11.960
<v Speaker 1>given discounts to clients when they ask and if so,

0:44:12.280 --> 0:44:14.560
<v Speaker 1>did some of these kind of things that we discussed

0:44:14.719 --> 0:44:18.200
<v Speaker 1>come into play the way somebody asked, and their directness,

0:44:18.239 --> 0:44:22.359
<v Speaker 1>their humanity, and their preparation with rates from other photographers,

0:44:22.360 --> 0:44:24.200
<v Speaker 1>Did any of those things kind of come into play

0:44:24.239 --> 0:44:27.279
<v Speaker 1>for you to grant that discount. Yes, people do ask

0:44:27.280 --> 0:44:29.640
<v Speaker 1>for discounts, not like all the time, but it's not

0:44:29.719 --> 0:44:32.040
<v Speaker 1>an uncommon thing for folks to ask for a discount. So,

0:44:32.239 --> 0:44:34.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, as a wedding photographer, sometimes folks will come

0:44:34.320 --> 0:44:35.680
<v Speaker 1>to me and say, Hey, I'm getting married, on a

0:44:35.719 --> 0:44:38.399
<v Speaker 1>Friday or or a Sunday, do you offer discounts for that?

0:44:38.960 --> 0:44:41.399
<v Speaker 1>And sometimes they are prepared. That's one of the points

0:44:41.480 --> 0:44:44.520
<v Speaker 1>we talked about earlier. They never say specifically who. It's

0:44:44.600 --> 0:44:47.760
<v Speaker 1>kind of like general and vague, which is probably smart

0:44:48.040 --> 0:44:49.839
<v Speaker 1>at least in your line of work. When you're going

0:44:50.000 --> 0:44:52.000
<v Speaker 1>into Target, you want to say that Walmart's going yeah.

0:44:52.600 --> 0:44:53.719
<v Speaker 1>But in your line of work, it makes sense that

0:44:53.800 --> 0:44:55.440
<v Speaker 1>they say, you know, I've got another similar It's a

0:44:55.480 --> 0:44:58.360
<v Speaker 1>little more relational, and I guess it's a little less

0:44:58.440 --> 0:45:00.440
<v Speaker 1>lazy to say, hey, like we've been talk to talk

0:45:00.480 --> 0:45:02.319
<v Speaker 1>about some folks and they don't want to like just

0:45:02.560 --> 0:45:05.319
<v Speaker 1>put everybody up against each other. But but yeah, they've

0:45:05.360 --> 0:45:07.560
<v Speaker 1>come to me and said, hey, there's another photographer and

0:45:07.560 --> 0:45:10.040
<v Speaker 1>they're willing to include a second photographer for the same rate.

0:45:10.760 --> 0:45:14.520
<v Speaker 1>Or they offered discounts for on Saturday weddings, things like that,

0:45:14.600 --> 0:45:16.680
<v Speaker 1>And and sometimes I do you know, it just depends

0:45:16.719 --> 0:45:19.120
<v Speaker 1>on sort of my book of business. If I'm crazy busy,

0:45:19.160 --> 0:45:21.520
<v Speaker 1>well sorry, you know, I just can't. I can't offer

0:45:21.560 --> 0:45:23.719
<v Speaker 1>a discount. I'm already too busy as it is. But

0:45:24.239 --> 0:45:26.759
<v Speaker 1>if it's pretty far in advance and it says, say,

0:45:26.760 --> 0:45:28.239
<v Speaker 1>it's a month where I don't have anything on the

0:45:28.280 --> 0:45:31.279
<v Speaker 1>books yet, that's once something I'll completely consider and I

0:45:31.480 --> 0:45:34.040
<v Speaker 1>definitely never think less of them, uh, and it does

0:45:34.080 --> 0:45:37.400
<v Speaker 1>not affect how I view them as people or how

0:45:37.480 --> 0:45:39.480
<v Speaker 1>I treat them as clients. One of the ways that

0:45:39.520 --> 0:45:41.520
<v Speaker 1>I was surprised that we were now we're able to

0:45:41.520 --> 0:45:46.759
<v Speaker 1>get a discount was with delivering a baby. Um so

0:45:46.840 --> 0:45:48.520
<v Speaker 1>back when we had our yeah, I did it for

0:45:48.520 --> 0:45:55.440
<v Speaker 1>twenty bucks. It was quite the deal. Back when we

0:45:55.520 --> 0:45:59.480
<v Speaker 1>had Vye, our oldest daughter, we didn't have maternity included.

0:45:59.640 --> 0:46:02.440
<v Speaker 1>But with Evy, we're paying out of pocket because we

0:46:02.440 --> 0:46:04.719
<v Speaker 1>were doing self pay and we had heard that you

0:46:04.760 --> 0:46:07.719
<v Speaker 1>could talk to the hospital and get a reduced rate.

0:46:07.920 --> 0:46:09.640
<v Speaker 1>We went to the billing department there at the hospital

0:46:09.680 --> 0:46:13.280
<v Speaker 1>ahead of time, before everything went down right, they agreed

0:46:13.320 --> 0:46:16.160
<v Speaker 1>to a specific rate that they offer for patients that

0:46:16.200 --> 0:46:19.440
<v Speaker 1>are looking to self pay. And we not only did

0:46:19.440 --> 0:46:21.720
<v Speaker 1>that with the hospital, we did that with my wife's

0:46:21.719 --> 0:46:24.680
<v Speaker 1>obie and all the other doctors and bills that you

0:46:24.719 --> 0:46:27.000
<v Speaker 1>get in the mail after the fact, which heads up

0:46:27.040 --> 0:46:29.400
<v Speaker 1>you get a ton of bills because obviously you've got

0:46:29.440 --> 0:46:31.799
<v Speaker 1>the hospital and you've got your ob your doctor that

0:46:31.840 --> 0:46:33.759
<v Speaker 1>delivers the baby. But there's just all these other little

0:46:33.760 --> 0:46:38.680
<v Speaker 1>things too, like the hearing test and the epidural and

0:46:38.800 --> 0:46:40.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, if you if you go that route, and

0:46:40.400 --> 0:46:43.160
<v Speaker 1>there's just so many little things. And not a single

0:46:43.160 --> 0:46:45.200
<v Speaker 1>one of those bills did we pay full price because

0:46:45.320 --> 0:46:48.400
<v Speaker 1>I called them up, had a decent human conversation with

0:46:48.480 --> 0:46:50.400
<v Speaker 1>them or in the case with the obie in the hospital.

0:46:50.480 --> 0:46:52.080
<v Speaker 1>It's just something we talked about ahead of time and

0:46:52.239 --> 0:46:54.960
<v Speaker 1>had a great reduced, agreed upon rate that we were

0:46:54.960 --> 0:46:57.359
<v Speaker 1>able to set up. Yeah, and sometimes yet you can

0:46:57.400 --> 0:46:59.600
<v Speaker 1>ask for the discount after the fact, but definitely in

0:46:59.600 --> 0:47:01.759
<v Speaker 1>this case, better to ask beforehand. You're going to get

0:47:01.760 --> 0:47:04.480
<v Speaker 1>a better rate negotiating that beforehand than afterwards. And we

0:47:04.480 --> 0:47:06.480
<v Speaker 1>just wanted the peace of mind knowing that right going

0:47:06.560 --> 0:47:08.640
<v Speaker 1>going into ahead of time. So and one thing that

0:47:08.800 --> 0:47:12.239
<v Speaker 1>might affect a lot more people than that scenario to

0:47:12.760 --> 0:47:16.120
<v Speaker 1>Amazon Prime will give you a discount. So Amazon Prime

0:47:16.160 --> 0:47:19.440
<v Speaker 1>has guaranteed two day delivery on packages. We're still talking

0:47:19.480 --> 0:47:23.240
<v Speaker 1>about delivery, but that's a good point. That's a good point. Uh,

0:47:23.280 --> 0:47:25.360
<v Speaker 1>But let's say that package gets delivered in three to

0:47:25.400 --> 0:47:28.920
<v Speaker 1>four days instead of two days. You can call Amazon

0:47:28.960 --> 0:47:31.279
<v Speaker 1>primes number, and this is kind of a documented thing

0:47:31.280 --> 0:47:33.600
<v Speaker 1>at this point, and ask for a free month and

0:47:33.640 --> 0:47:35.880
<v Speaker 1>they'll say, well, why should we do that, Well, because

0:47:36.000 --> 0:47:38.319
<v Speaker 1>the package wasn't delivered in two days, and that's kind

0:47:38.320 --> 0:47:40.480
<v Speaker 1>of your deal, right Amazon Prime supposed to be here

0:47:40.520 --> 0:47:43.560
<v Speaker 1>in two days, and they will give you an extra

0:47:43.719 --> 0:47:46.839
<v Speaker 1>month of Amazon Prime service for free, So they'll add

0:47:46.880 --> 0:47:49.200
<v Speaker 1>that on. So every time a package is delayed a

0:47:49.200 --> 0:47:51.760
<v Speaker 1>little bit longer than expected, you can get that extra

0:47:51.800 --> 0:47:54.440
<v Speaker 1>free month of Amazon Prime. I'm sure you can probably

0:47:54.440 --> 0:47:56.680
<v Speaker 1>wear out your welcome over time and they will stop

0:47:56.680 --> 0:47:59.080
<v Speaker 1>doing it. But that's kind of a cool thing just

0:47:59.120 --> 0:48:00.759
<v Speaker 1>to know that that's a atually kind of part of

0:48:00.800 --> 0:48:04.520
<v Speaker 1>their culture, part of their policy at this point, and

0:48:04.680 --> 0:48:07.120
<v Speaker 1>asking for that discount doesn't hurt, but you just need

0:48:07.160 --> 0:48:09.160
<v Speaker 1>to know that it's available and that you should be

0:48:09.200 --> 0:48:12.120
<v Speaker 1>asking for it. And hopefully to a certain extent, this

0:48:12.239 --> 0:48:15.840
<v Speaker 1>episode gives you the permission to ask. I think sometimes

0:48:15.920 --> 0:48:18.160
<v Speaker 1>we think that we can't or we're gonna hurt somebody's

0:48:18.160 --> 0:48:22.200
<v Speaker 1>feelings or that's a little uncouth, But that permission to ask,

0:48:22.360 --> 0:48:26.239
<v Speaker 1>that's what this is right here, so exactly, and we

0:48:26.239 --> 0:48:28.440
<v Speaker 1>would love to hear from you in our Facebook group

0:48:28.840 --> 0:48:32.000
<v Speaker 1>or on the comments on the show notes of this

0:48:32.040 --> 0:48:34.200
<v Speaker 1>post at Poor not Poor dot com. We would love

0:48:34.239 --> 0:48:37.200
<v Speaker 1>to hear about the best discounts you've got. Yeah, I'd

0:48:37.200 --> 0:48:39.960
<v Speaker 1>love to see that just by asking, so so toss

0:48:40.000 --> 0:48:42.799
<v Speaker 1>those up we and we will hopefully share those on

0:48:42.840 --> 0:48:44.560
<v Speaker 1>the future episode. That would be a lot of fun. So, yeah,

0:48:44.600 --> 0:48:46.040
<v Speaker 1>there's a really good one. I'll oh, man, I would

0:48:46.080 --> 0:48:47.800
<v Speaker 1>love to share that, so, Matt. Back to the beer.

0:48:47.920 --> 0:48:51.000
<v Speaker 1>We had two French beers brought back from my trip

0:48:51.040 --> 0:48:54.200
<v Speaker 1>to France. A vanilla milkshake I p a. I'm not

0:48:54.200 --> 0:48:57.000
<v Speaker 1>even gonna try to pronounce the brewery's name in an

0:48:57.000 --> 0:49:02.160
<v Speaker 1>imperial for litteralise with hell tow blanc grapes. Yeah, both

0:49:02.200 --> 0:49:05.120
<v Speaker 1>of these were great. You didn't like the vanilla milkshake

0:49:05.160 --> 0:49:06.880
<v Speaker 1>I p as much, I will say, man, as it

0:49:06.960 --> 0:49:08.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of warmed up the more I had it. It

0:49:08.719 --> 0:49:13.160
<v Speaker 1>had like this sort of jasmine honeysuckle, sort of floral

0:49:13.200 --> 0:49:15.120
<v Speaker 1>notes to it, kind of goes along with what you're saying,

0:49:15.160 --> 0:49:17.480
<v Speaker 1>like the tea aspect of it, and I kind of

0:49:17.560 --> 0:49:19.759
<v Speaker 1>kind of grew on me. It just wasn't quite my vibe.

0:49:19.920 --> 0:49:21.960
<v Speaker 1>I usually like beers like that, but then this one

0:49:22.000 --> 0:49:25.000
<v Speaker 1>had kind of some interesting flavor combos. It wasn't bad,

0:49:25.200 --> 0:49:26.960
<v Speaker 1>but it's just not a beer that I would be

0:49:27.080 --> 0:49:31.800
<v Speaker 1>I would want to go back to the Gallia Brewery

0:49:31.840 --> 0:49:35.440
<v Speaker 1>that made the Imperial Berlin device that was absolutely delicious

0:49:35.480 --> 0:49:38.720
<v Speaker 1>and the beer was not even outdone by this amazing artwork.

0:49:38.760 --> 0:49:41.680
<v Speaker 1>That beer was so good as a sweet bottle. So

0:49:41.719 --> 0:49:43.960
<v Speaker 1>it's so crazy about that is it's considered an Imperial

0:49:44.280 --> 0:49:48.040
<v Speaker 1>Berlin of ice, which isn't something I've literally I've literally

0:49:48.080 --> 0:49:50.160
<v Speaker 1>never had that before. I want to see more berries

0:49:50.239 --> 0:49:53.120
<v Speaker 1>making Imperial Brillin of vices because this was fantastic. It

0:49:53.160 --> 0:49:55.200
<v Speaker 1>was like a regular Brillin Brillin avice, but with just

0:49:55.800 --> 0:49:58.000
<v Speaker 1>more flavor, you know. It was just more aggressive and

0:49:58.000 --> 0:50:03.080
<v Speaker 1>the grapes came through like gangbusters. It felt like I

0:50:03.120 --> 0:50:04.680
<v Speaker 1>was biting into the grapes in a lot of ways.

0:50:05.200 --> 0:50:09.040
<v Speaker 1>That nice musty, winey kind of quality, uh in this

0:50:09.120 --> 0:50:12.920
<v Speaker 1>beer was really fantastic. That this was like an impeccably

0:50:13.000 --> 0:50:15.400
<v Speaker 1>made beer. And yeah, I wish I had more of

0:50:15.400 --> 0:50:18.439
<v Speaker 1>these because that was really really good. Awesome Joel, Let's

0:50:18.480 --> 0:50:20.439
<v Speaker 1>go ahead and do a quick recap and then we'll

0:50:20.560 --> 0:50:23.560
<v Speaker 1>end this episode. Yeah, man, So the art of asking

0:50:23.560 --> 0:50:26.200
<v Speaker 1>for a discount. Most people don't even think to do it,

0:50:26.560 --> 0:50:29.960
<v Speaker 1>and usually that's because they're afraid of getting rejected. No

0:50:30.000 --> 0:50:32.360
<v Speaker 1>one likes being turned down for something. But just know

0:50:32.480 --> 0:50:34.840
<v Speaker 1>they're saying no to the question, not to you. Yeah,

0:50:35.120 --> 0:50:36.719
<v Speaker 1>and then how to ask for a discount. I think

0:50:36.840 --> 0:50:39.319
<v Speaker 1>the most important thing is to be prepared. Right. If

0:50:39.360 --> 0:50:41.680
<v Speaker 1>you don't know what it is that you're looking for,

0:50:41.719 --> 0:50:43.200
<v Speaker 1>what it is that you're gonna ask for, and if

0:50:43.200 --> 0:50:46.279
<v Speaker 1>you don't have sort of the leverage, specifically, if you

0:50:46.280 --> 0:50:48.680
<v Speaker 1>don't know what a competitor is offering, um, you're not

0:50:48.719 --> 0:50:50.239
<v Speaker 1>gonna be able to get quite the deal and you're

0:50:50.239 --> 0:50:52.160
<v Speaker 1>not gonna be able to present the information and make

0:50:52.160 --> 0:50:53.920
<v Speaker 1>a case. You want to be prepared. You want to

0:50:53.920 --> 0:50:56.200
<v Speaker 1>know what's out there. You want to have that information

0:50:56.200 --> 0:50:58.560
<v Speaker 1>ready to go when you are about to ask for

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<v Speaker 1>that discount. That's right, And you want to be human.

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<v Speaker 1>Smile look people in the eyes also very important, right

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, and I think people respond when you ask

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<v Speaker 1>kindly and you're not expecting to get something for free.

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<v Speaker 1>People don't want to do a favor for a jerk,

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<v Speaker 1>So be kind, yeah, man, being nice, like you're able

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<v Speaker 1>to make that human connection and like that that's just

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<v Speaker 1>so important. And the other thing too, when you're asking

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<v Speaker 1>for discounts too, is it just builds up that muscle.

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<v Speaker 1>Like we talked about earlier. It gets you used to saying,

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<v Speaker 1>it gets you used to asking, and it also gets

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<v Speaker 1>you used to being told no, getting used to that rejection.

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<v Speaker 1>And over time that's something that you'll get better at

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<v Speaker 1>doing and hopefully you'll find that kind of translates into

0:51:36.320 --> 0:51:38.839
<v Speaker 1>other aspects, other areas of your of your life as well,

0:51:38.880 --> 0:51:41.080
<v Speaker 1>like asking for a raise or really just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>going after something you want to do and hopefully it

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<v Speaker 1>will work out for you. But ultimately the answer is

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<v Speaker 1>always going to be no if you never ask, Yeah, Matt.

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<v Speaker 1>Essentially it's like cross fit for your ask for a

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<v Speaker 1>discount muscle, right, And so I've never done cross it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm assuming that it's good and then you get

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<v Speaker 1>strong So um, yeah, that's what you people do, get stronger.

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