Speaker 1: Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition
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Speaker 1: How's it going, everybody? Brian Alvarez here on Wrestling Observer Live.
Speaker 1: We are here every day Monday through Friday, New Pacific,
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Speaker 1: here on the program, everybody, and we got a lot
Speaker 1: to talk about here today and a lot more exciting
Speaker 1: things in my head. I thought we can talk about
Speaker 1: that later. It is Wednesday, and that means tonight it
Speaker 1: is aw Dynamite. They're still in California, Aaron Sacramento. We
Speaker 1: got six matches announced for the show tonight, including for
Speaker 1: the ae W TNT title. Wardlow we'll be defending against
Speaker 1: Powerhouse Hobbs. Powerhouse Hobbs is from the Bay Area, which
Speaker 1: is a little bit south of Sacramento. But he is
Speaker 1: facing a man who is very, very angry because his
Speaker 1: car got broken into and everything was stolen, including his
Speaker 1: T and T tie. So we'll talk about the full
Speaker 1: lineup for the show tonight. We have got the MLW
Speaker 1: lawsuit they did refile they had until they had until
Speaker 1: Monday to refile, and they did, so we'll tell you
Speaker 1: what's going on there. We have a full lineup for
Speaker 1: WrestleMania at this point. We've got looks like eight matches
Speaker 1: and these will be split between two nights and we'll
Speaker 1: find out what matches are on what night as things
Speaker 1: go on. We do know a couple of them because
Speaker 1: of things that people have said. We got another pay
Speaker 1: per view coming up, Backlash, which has now been booked
Speaker 1: for May sixth in San Juan, Porto Rico, and so
Speaker 1: you'll never guess through the host of that show is
Speaker 1: going to be. We've got raw ratings for Monday Night
Speaker 1: with the return of John Cena, which did not do
Speaker 1: nearly as well as SmackDown with the Return of John Cena.
Speaker 1: And yes, while I did not get to personally do
Speaker 1: the world famous Raw reports, I do get to do
Speaker 1: the world famous n xt TV report today back in
Speaker 1: a moment with more Observer Live Bregg on the show.
Speaker 1: Bran Elbarez here Wrestling Observer Live, Mike simper viv also
Speaker 1: Wrestling Observer dot Com. Your tie line's kind of acting up.
Speaker 1: I may have to have you switched channels okay, but
Speaker 1: we have a lot of news to get into here today.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you this everybody, because this is a business.
Speaker 1: If you want the whole story about why I got
Speaker 1: no hair right now, you're gonna listen to the bran
Speaker 1: of any show last night. Spend good eight ten minutes
Speaker 1: on it. But the short version is, I thought I
Speaker 1: was really clever yesterday spoofing Vince McMahon for his mustache
Speaker 1: and his jet black hair, And so I might have
Speaker 1: painted on a mustache. And perhaps because I do not
Speaker 1: want to dye my hair black, I got a cover up.
Speaker 1: They called it a temporary die that was designed to
Speaker 1: be sprayed into the part of your hair to just
Speaker 1: cover up the roots. And perhaps it was not designed
Speaker 1: to paint your entire head black. And suffice to say,
Speaker 1: it didn't come out. Can I ask you a question, yes,
Speaker 1: why did you have that product in range to grab?
Speaker 1: To begin with? Brian? Why didn't I what have the what?
Speaker 1: In what? Talking to? Where? Did you have that problem?
Speaker 1: Why was it just sitting around the house? Have you
Speaker 1: been touching it up after all these years? I bought
Speaker 1: it yesterday before the show. In fact, if you want
Speaker 1: to find out exactly what I was in the store
Speaker 1: buying it. And this is an irony that nobody knows.
Speaker 1: So yesterday I told Mike that you know him and filth.
Speaker 1: You guys want to do the show whatever, but I
Speaker 1: have got to be on to talk about Vince's mustache.
Speaker 1: And so if you recall, Mike, I told you that
Speaker 1: I was going to start the show and then and
Speaker 1: then you guys could go from there. Yes, but if
Speaker 1: you scroll back in your text messages, it would be
Speaker 1: at exactly eleven thirty eight am Pacific, which was two
Speaker 1: thirty eight Eastern. That's when I came up with the
Speaker 1: idea and stopped at the right aid. And in fact,
Speaker 1: do you remember when I texted you ironically change of plans? Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: plans change when ye when you was it was imperative
Speaker 1: him that I started to show well because I didn't
Speaker 1: know if I had everything done on time, and I
Speaker 1: wanted to sneak in like Vince snuck in. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I got a jet black root touch up. I sprayed
Speaker 1: it all over my head and uh, you know it's
Speaker 1: supposed to It was supposed it said it would wash
Speaker 1: out after one shampoo. Last one shampoo. It said wrong
Speaker 1: and after and this. You know, sometimes I exaggerate and
Speaker 1: everything like that, but I'm not kidding. I put shampoo
Speaker 1: in and washed it out eight times, and nothing had changed.
Speaker 1: I couldn't get my fingers through my hair. Nothing. And
Speaker 1: I decided I was gonna wait, you know, six hours
Speaker 1: or so and try it again. I tried washing with shampoo.
Speaker 1: I tried washing with soap. I tried washing with uh
Speaker 1: don dish soap. Nothing. And this guy, this guy goes,
Speaker 1: why not just leave it black? Because it wasn't the
Speaker 1: color that was the issue. It was that it's not
Speaker 1: the stuff that the cover up is not like a
Speaker 1: die okay. What it is is some substance okay. And
Speaker 1: the substance would not wash out of my hair. Some goo,
Speaker 1: yeah it was. It was literally goo. And like I
Speaker 1: tried to, you know, go like this, and then my
Speaker 1: fingers are stuck. I got like so at that point,
Speaker 1: it was like I just gotta shave my head. I
Speaker 1: gotta shave it all out of my head. And I
Speaker 1: thought I thought I was gonna be que bald, like
Speaker 1: totally bald, but I managed to get it down to
Speaker 1: a number two and this stuff was all out for
Speaker 1: scalp at any point on your head there is it?
Speaker 1: Is it died or is it just your hair? I
Speaker 1: don't think so. I mean I can see my scalp,
Speaker 1: so the stuff's all out of it. Goly So. Anyway,
Speaker 1: Vince once again gets the last laugh on me. It
Speaker 1: is like constant suffering. Yeah, I had pictures too, and
Speaker 1: I would like try and put my hands in my
Speaker 1: hair and then I like, you know, black goo all
Speaker 1: over my fingers. It was bad. Oh man. Now, at
Speaker 1: any point during your time as Vince, did you get
Speaker 1: the urge to harass anybody you're as signed any NDA's Well, thankfully,
Speaker 1: I I you know, I got out of the skies immediately.
Speaker 1: I was going to sneak in with my shirt off
Speaker 1: and do the full Vince McMahon walk. But I thought
Speaker 1: we might be booted out of off a twitch if
Speaker 1: I did something like that. So didn't happen. You want,
Speaker 1: if you want more, you can listen to the Briant
Speaker 1: vide show last night. But tonight we got to talk
Speaker 1: about news. My head is not news. Okay, yes, Vince's
Speaker 1: mustache and his jet black hair was news, but my
Speaker 1: head is not news. Uh So, Sacramento Tonight Wardlow versus
Speaker 1: Powerhouse House for the TNT title, Jericho, Sammy and Daniel
Speaker 1: Garcia Berss Top Flight in aar Fox Orange Cassidy versus
Speaker 1: Jay Lethal for the Atlantic title. Moxley and Claudio versus
Speaker 1: Alex Reynolds and John silber I, Blewe versus Ruby soho At.
Speaker 1: A promo from The Hangman Now is noted in the
Speaker 1: opening segment. On Twitter or Tuesday evening, Wardlow shared a
Speaker 1: video of his rental car, which had been broken into.
Speaker 1: Everything in the car was stolen, including his gear and
Speaker 1: the T and T title. He said, well, thanks to
Speaker 1: the person who broken in my rental car, and literally
Speaker 1: they took absolutely everything from me, he said, my T
Speaker 1: and T title, my ring, gear, my boots, my whole
Speaker 1: life in those bags. I don't know if that means
Speaker 1: I'll have to beat the stuffing out of Hobbs in
Speaker 1: these clothes I'm wearing right now. But one way or another,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make it a sacramento and we're gonna get
Speaker 1: this done. Whoever did this better, Thank god I didn't
Speaker 1: catch you in the act. Your job would be as
Speaker 1: shattered as this glass is. So he's mad, and I
Speaker 1: guess we'll find out what they do on You know,
Speaker 1: if I had to guess, I've been pushing for Hobbs
Speaker 1: to win the title for like forever, but I don't
Speaker 1: think it's happening tonight because they just put the title
Speaker 1: on Wardlow. And my my feeling as to why this
Speaker 1: is being booked this way is that, yes, he's not
Speaker 1: winning the title, Yes he's not winning the belt in Sacramento,
Speaker 1: but he got the big win in his hometown. He's
Speaker 1: getting the big push in his hometown. He will lose
Speaker 1: the match in the end, but he got all of
Speaker 1: that other stuff. That's what I figure is going to
Speaker 1: happen here. I mean I would be you know, but
Speaker 1: why is it necessary? Yeah, becauuse the match he won
Speaker 1: was to give him a title match. But this wasn't
Speaker 1: the next match that Wardlow had, or it wasn't the
Speaker 1: next thing that he had to do. He could get
Speaker 1: a big win over somebody to night look dominant, have
Speaker 1: the crowd go crazy for it. You know, he can
Speaker 1: do something diabolical and there you go, and he can
Speaker 1: you know, challenge Wardlow that way? Why are we rushing
Speaker 1: into having to have that title match on this Dynamite
Speaker 1: I'm sure they want to sell tickets because he he's
Speaker 1: somewhat local, I guess, but you couldn't put him against
Speaker 1: somebody else, any other name on the roster and saw
Speaker 1: a ticket for it's got to be a TNT title match. Well,
Speaker 1: I will say this, I was baffled on the cow
Speaker 1: Palace show that he was on the show. But he
Speaker 1: wrestled for like ten seconds and he was gone. I
Speaker 1: will laugh if you know his music hits tonight and
Speaker 1: he walks out in Wardlow's gear and the TNT title
Speaker 1: because he was the one who broke into Wardlow's car. Actually,
Speaker 1: that would be quite the little angle right there, but
Speaker 1: I don't think it's happening. MLW refiled the final day
Speaker 1: they could have been their lawsuit. They did that Monday.
Speaker 1: It was filed and if San Jose again, which I
Speaker 1: thought they weren't gonna be able to file at San Jose,
Speaker 1: but they did, calling it predatory conduct. MLW is continuing
Speaker 1: to claim WWE is impeding their ability to compete in
Speaker 1: the licensing that's programming for distribution on streaming services. Continues
Speaker 1: to threaten to deprive MLW of its ability to license
Speaker 1: it's programming for distribution on cable. They claim they are
Speaker 1: quote at risk of the business being irreparably destroyed, and
Speaker 1: so you know, you know these things are written and
Speaker 1: a naked attempt to restrain competition through the abuse of
Speaker 1: its market power. WWE, through Paul leavec It's then executive
Speaker 1: vice president, called MSG to insist MSG canceled the show
Speaker 1: with a Ring of honor in New Japan. Unable to
Speaker 1: resist the pressure from the industry behemoth, MSG succumbed and
Speaker 1: withdrew from the Ring of Honor agreement and canceled the
Speaker 1: Ring of Honor show while Sinclair threaten to sue MSGU
Speaker 1: over the agreement. The show was rescheduled. Rh and New
Speaker 1: Japan were forced to incurse significant legal expense to vindicate
Speaker 1: their legal rights and a defend against WWE's anti competitive behavior.
Speaker 1: So it is unknown, it says, when the court will
Speaker 1: make their next ruling. Original lawsuit was filed in January
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty two. And we're back in a moment
Speaker 1: to talk of this plenty more right, Tom Wrestling Observer
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Speaker 1: So WrestleMania's coming up. Here are the matches thus far
Speaker 1: for this show. We have Roman Reigns against Cody Rhodes
Speaker 1: for all the belts. We have Charlotte against Rhea for
Speaker 1: the women's title, SmackDown Bianca versus Zasca for the Raw
Speaker 1: women's title. We have Austin Theory against John Cena for
Speaker 1: the US title. Man that segment Monday, Holy smokes, we
Speaker 1: have got Oh you're over there right, I don't know,
Speaker 1: am I? You are all right? We got Gunther defending
Speaker 1: against somebody. Brock Leser will be pacing Oh Moss can
Speaker 1: wait for that one, and seth Rawlins versus Logan Paul. Monday,
Speaker 1: they did a challenge and set up tris Stratis Becky
Speaker 1: Lynch and Leda versus Damage Control, which is Bailey, Dakota
Speaker 1: Kai and EO Sky. And originally there's gonna be a
Speaker 1: women's tag team title match at WrestleMania, but currently the
Speaker 1: women's tag team champions are in this sixth person. So
Speaker 1: either there is going to be a title change where
Speaker 1: beck He and Leda lose the tag titles to somebody
Speaker 1: and then we set up a title match for Mania,
Speaker 1: or that's not going to happen. My guess is, since
Speaker 1: we have about a month left, that is what's going
Speaker 1: to happen, because it doesn't make sense to tie up
Speaker 1: the tag titles in a sixth person when you have
Speaker 1: two Knights of WrestleMania, and right now we have eight matches,
Speaker 1: that's one night of WrestleMania. These will be these current
Speaker 1: matches will be split between both Knights, but the point
Speaker 1: is eight matches on one show, eight matches on another show.
Speaker 1: We have eight more matches that we need, so I
Speaker 1: presume there's gonna be a tag title change, but well,
Speaker 1: you know what makes the most sense there is to
Speaker 1: have Rhonda and Shana win the belts and then defend
Speaker 1: them against Tigan Knox, which who is one of Triple
Speaker 1: Ah's favorites. She is somebody that has had so many
Speaker 1: injuries and so much in her path to even get
Speaker 1: to this point where she could be at a Rustlemania
Speaker 1: and Natalia as her partner, who is a Rustlemania stalwart
Speaker 1: ever year, getting on the card. So that would make
Speaker 1: them most sense to actually have some functionality with those
Speaker 1: titles and to get all of those names I just
Speaker 1: mentioned on the card, and then as noted, we have
Speaker 1: got the Backlash show May sixth from Colosseo de Puerto
Speaker 1: Rico Jose Miguel leg something or other. It's in San Juan.
Speaker 1: It is the home of Bad Bunny, so he will
Speaker 1: be hosting the show whatever that means, and he'll be out.
Speaker 1: It'll be his first appearance since the twenty twenty two
Speaker 1: Royal rumble. And he said, in two thousand and five,
Speaker 1: when I was a kid. God, ouch, that's the year
Speaker 1: I started all of this, not even the whole thing,
Speaker 1: just a website. The other thing was was a decade
Speaker 1: before that. In two thousand and five, when I was
Speaker 1: a kid, I was not able to attend New Year's
Speaker 1: Revolution at l Colisseo. Finally, eighteen years later, ww return
Speaker 1: to the island with a massive event, and this time
Speaker 1: I won't miss it. So there you go. Is it
Speaker 1: thirty five years this year since Bruiser Brody? Is it
Speaker 1: my math right with eighty eight there? So it has
Speaker 1: been a long time. And I've been watching some of
Speaker 1: those WWC shows that are on wop on on Saturdays
Speaker 1: and Sundays, and that is a scene that needs as
Speaker 1: much help as it can get now. Obviously economically structurally
Speaker 1: that place Puerto Rico is. You know, they got bigger
Speaker 1: concerns than wrestling, but it ought to be interesting to
Speaker 1: see exactly what it's like. And frankly, I'm interested to
Speaker 1: see exactly what WWE does in the week leading up
Speaker 1: to the event, because obviously they like being involved in
Speaker 1: these big events. They like again getting themselves in and
Speaker 1: doing a munch of charitable works and things like that.
Speaker 1: I'd like to see what they actually do for the
Speaker 1: people of Puerto Rico to put on that show. Oh
Speaker 1: alrighty the Raw ratings from Monday, So this was a
Speaker 1: return of John Cena. They guys, remember when John Cena
Speaker 1: returned at that SmackDown show showed great. John Cena really
Speaker 1: moves those numbers. But I didn't really do that this time.
Speaker 1: So the Raw show built around appearances by both John
Speaker 1: Cena and Logan Paul. They were trying to get all
Speaker 1: of the alleged you know, big market names are Raw
Speaker 1: one point eight three million viewers point five two in
Speaker 1: eighteen to forty nine and the hourly numbers. It opened
Speaker 1: at one point eight nine million, which is not great.
Speaker 1: The good news is it didn't really drop a lot
Speaker 1: throughout the show. One point eight nine million first hour,
Speaker 1: one point eight six million second hour, and they held
Speaker 1: to a one point seven four million third hour, which
Speaker 1: my guess is when Sena was out there, it went
Speaker 1: way up and then went way down, but it averaged
Speaker 1: one point seven four million viewers, so it was just,
Speaker 1: you know, it was just a number. But you know,
Speaker 1: as we've mentioned before, this goes for both a W
Speaker 1: and WWE. Everybody gets all fixated on the average viewership
Speaker 1: number for the show. But we got to talk about
Speaker 1: the cable charts, and you know, sometimes people go, ah,
Speaker 1: it's not about it. It It is about eighteen forty nine,
Speaker 1: because there's a cable chart and that's how the shows
Speaker 1: are ranked. So if we're about something else, they would
Speaker 1: rank them by something else. If we're about the number
Speaker 1: of people that just watch the show, wud be ranked
Speaker 1: by that. It's not. It's eighteen to forty nine. And
Speaker 1: they were first on cable, and they weren't just first
Speaker 1: on cable. They were first on cable by a wide margin.
Speaker 1: With Below Deck doing a point two seven and Tucker
Speaker 1: Carlson doing a point two seven. They both did a
Speaker 1: point two seven is two and three Rot did a
Speaker 1: point five two, So you know. That's great. That's all
Speaker 1: there is to say about it. So why it was down,
Speaker 1: Why Johnson didn't move numbers like he has before, I
Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe maybe people knew he was showing up
Speaker 1: to see theory. That may maybe that was it too.
Speaker 1: But our plus three and plus I obviously it's a thing.
Speaker 1: It's important to a much lesser degree. But plus three
Speaker 1: I would think is relatively important because wouldn't broadcasters and
Speaker 1: add people, you know, the ones who are buying commercials
Speaker 1: and all that. Wouldn't they actually be happy within three
Speaker 1: days of you checking out product and being up on it.
Speaker 1: Is that a number that they care about? I don't
Speaker 1: think they care that much about it because it will
Speaker 1: be honest, if you record raw on Monday and then
Speaker 1: you decide you're gonna watch it on Wednesday, I mean,
Speaker 1: because you ain't sitting there watching those commercials. Dude, you're
Speaker 1: skipping through the commercials. Well that's true and true. And
Speaker 1: you know the other thing too. I mean, listen, here's
Speaker 1: anything about plus three. You know when when a show
Speaker 1: like Rod is a point five two, and then you
Speaker 1: know second place in third place are doing what they
Speaker 1: do point two seven? I mean your plus three ain't
Speaker 1: gonna it ain't gonna made much of a difference. And
Speaker 1: you know, everyone has a plus three, and I would
Speaker 1: think that for the most part, the plus threes are
Speaker 1: all similar, with the exception of you know, if there's
Speaker 1: a sporting event, I mean, if there's a big game,
Speaker 1: I mean, no one's skipping the game and then watching
Speaker 1: it three days later. I mean, that's why. That's why
Speaker 1: sports or DVR proof, which they're not so anything that's
Speaker 1: not a sport. I mean, your plus three's are all
Speaker 1: probably going to be relatively the same. It's not going
Speaker 1: to make a big difference in the cable charts or
Speaker 1: the overall about that. Sometimes with Rampage where it's like
Speaker 1: I wonder if people like three days later or even
Speaker 1: like if they hear really good matches on there, but
Speaker 1: it's like I don't have the time to get to it,
Speaker 1: or the rest of the show wasn't that good or
Speaker 1: whatever it was. I wonder it's like, do people go
Speaker 1: back around to it if they hear that that TAKESHTA.
Speaker 1: I know it was on Dark, but let's just say
Speaker 1: t kesh Jack cart Wheel, you know you heard that match?
Speaker 1: Was that good? At some point do they even go
Speaker 1: back around to it, or is it just once four
Speaker 1: days happens, it might as well be gone. Well, it
Speaker 1: happens because we had gotten plus three numbers before, and
Speaker 1: there are people that watched the show on a significant delay.
Speaker 1: And you know, Tony Kahn in the in the media
Speaker 1: deal on Sunday, you know, he was talking about that
Speaker 1: one pay per view, Remember that one pay per view
Speaker 1: that went like well over four hours, and there was
Speaker 1: like a game and they were winning for the game
Speaker 1: to end before they put the big matches out there,
Speaker 1: and so it ended up going really long, and you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: his theory was, well, there might be people watching the game,
Speaker 1: and then you know, if we saved the big matches
Speaker 1: till the game is over, we might get a bunch
Speaker 1: of late buys. So he claims that that happened, you know,
Speaker 1: not like you know, one hundred thousand, but it did
Speaker 1: make a difference. And so you know, if there is
Speaker 1: a if there's word of mouth for a great match
Speaker 1: on an AW show or you know, a raw sho
Speaker 1: or whatever, people will go back and watch it. But
Speaker 1: it's not really in numbers that are going to make
Speaker 1: like a substantial difference. I mean, you have a core
Speaker 1: audience that is watching raw, that is watching a w
Speaker 1: and that is definitely watching rampage. You've got a core audience, okay.
Speaker 1: And the key is, you know, for a wrestling company,
Speaker 1: if you're running for AW, for example, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: you can get some extra people plus three, but what
Speaker 1: you want is for the people to be invested in
Speaker 1: your angle so they'll actually buy the pay per view.
Speaker 1: For WW it's less important because they're on peacock. It's like,
Speaker 1: you know, you're not asking them to spend forty dollars
Speaker 1: or fifty dollars or whatever an a w pay per
Speaker 1: view is. And you know, the one thing that we've
Speaker 1: also learned from the AW pay per views is that
Speaker 1: whether they have a big number or a small number
Speaker 1: for a go home show, that really does not have
Speaker 1: a massive bearing on how the pay per view is
Speaker 1: going to do. Your pay per view is going to
Speaker 1: be purchased by your hardcorees. So if your show does
Speaker 1: eight hundred thousand or it does one point two million,
Speaker 1: you know, all of those extra people above eight hundred thousand,
Speaker 1: they may not be buying the pay per view at all.
Speaker 1: Your goal is to convince the people under eight hundred
Speaker 1: thousand to buy that pay per view, and apparently they
Speaker 1: did it, because this weekend show apparently to better than
Speaker 1: Full Gear. That's where the early numbers showed. So there
Speaker 1: you go. This isn't really related, but I'm interested to
Speaker 1: know what exactly Reels would have gotten on Peacock. I
Speaker 1: wonder if Peacock goes out and actually gives a number
Speaker 1: or touts how great it did streaming wise, or something
Speaker 1: like that. I'm interested to see if there's anything about
Speaker 1: that at all, because if you were to click into
Speaker 1: Peacock when you have the channels, at least for the weekend,
Speaker 1: it was towards the top. Now they've knocked it down
Speaker 1: a lot lower and they're pushing their own stuff. But
Speaker 1: I'm wondering how that did. I'm also wondering if anybody
Speaker 1: did watch ourm Andy MLW commercials getting through backing them
Speaker 1: over with more Observer Live begging the show. Bran Albert
Speaker 1: is here wrestling Observer Live. Mike zipper V also wrestling
Speaker 1: Observer dot Com. So listen, I'm an honest man, this
Speaker 1: is a good show. This NXT show had some good wrestling,
Speaker 1: some really good wrestling, and you know it wasn't perfect.
Speaker 1: A couple of things are a little weird. Couldn't have
Speaker 1: started off any better. Hey, this Tony de'angelo died jack
Speaker 1: Jailhouse Street Funny Stratton, did they come on? Cares about
Speaker 1: that Kyle Lee dude? Or come on, it's twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1: You can't be salibating over these ladies. Tony D'Angelo and
Speaker 1: dying jacketed jailhouse Street fight was a great match. Although
Speaker 1: you know, my new most hated thing in wrestling is
Speaker 1: get a chair thrown in your face. I don't like
Speaker 1: to talk about the these fans, but god damn, these
Speaker 1: stupid fans. Stop chanting for tables and matches where dudes
Speaker 1: are killing each other with far more violent things. Sean
Speaker 1: Moxley has got barbed wire wrapped around his hand. He's
Speaker 1: got a fork. By the way, you guys should watch
Speaker 1: that match. He should watch how he uses that fork. Okay,
Speaker 1: And he's he's jabbing this guy, bust puncturing him and
Speaker 1: busting him open and scratching with all this stuff. And
Speaker 1: these fans are chanting, we want tables and the same
Speaker 1: thing in this match, like they're using chairs, they're hitting
Speaker 1: these hard slams on the floor. They're using all these
Speaker 1: gimmicks and these fans we want tables. Get out of here,
Speaker 1: you geeks. So anyway, the wrestling was real good. They
Speaker 1: took hard Bumpsticheck always does crazy stuff sports stacks, The
Speaker 1: Stacks tries to get involved, he gets killed here, He
Speaker 1: tries to get involved, he gets killed there, tries to
Speaker 1: get involved, and then you know the end. Die Jacket's
Speaker 1: gonna slam the door on Tony, but all Stacks, what
Speaker 1: a loyal Friendy. He throws his body between the door
Speaker 1: in the in the cage, he just gets squished again,
Speaker 1: this poor guy. And finally as he gets booted in
Speaker 1: the crowd, Tony ends up. He hits Djack with a
Speaker 1: series of crowbar shots. There's a lot worse than a
Speaker 1: wood table, and he throws him in the cell and
Speaker 1: he locks the door and he wins. Dude, all I
Speaker 1: want in wrestling is if you advertise his stipulation, bro,
Speaker 1: just give it to me. And they advertise a jailhouse
Speaker 1: street fight, and brother, you couldn't ask for more. On NXT,
Speaker 1: very good opening match, Yes, and Rock sand did a
Speaker 1: promo and she's gonna walk in his stand and Deliverer's champion.
Speaker 1: She's gonna beat Miko to night. Then we had the
Speaker 1: latest and the greatest current storyline in wrestling. So the
Speaker 1: Fornicator has offered to go talk to Keyana because things
Speaker 1: just haven't been the same since Fallon screwed everything up
Speaker 1: on Valentine's Day. So he goes to meet her ear
Speaker 1: in her office or strange office, and there's a big
Speaker 1: Valentine's bouquet of flowers on the desk, and he goes,
Speaker 1: you know, old Brooks just has him in the same
Speaker 1: since Valentine's Day, But man, look at those flowers he
Speaker 1: got you. Man, look at that. And he takes the
Speaker 1: card and she grabs the car. She hurriedly puts it away,
Speaker 1: and he says. She goes, he has such a big heart.
Speaker 1: Who could not love him? Briggs says, listen all I
Speaker 1: got or Fallon and the Virgin. I just want to
Speaker 1: be happy. Keiana says, you know, I've been really busy lately,
Speaker 1: but I just want to make this right. Briggs said,
Speaker 1: Man the Virgin, he's terrified of making a mistake. Run
Speaker 1: and she goes, yeah, wow, I appreciate this. I appreciate
Speaker 1: you coming in I'm gonna go give him a call,
Speaker 1: let me write it down on my thing, and off
Speaker 1: he goes. And you know, there wasn't subtle. But they're
Speaker 1: also not treating you like an idiot who sent these flowers.
Speaker 1: They were not sent by the Virgin. We'll get back
Speaker 1: to that. Gallus cuts a promo one Pretty Deadly, and
Speaker 1: pretty Deadly shows up in the crow's nest. Gallus wants
Speaker 1: to fight. Pretty Deadly doesn't want to fight, and I'm
Speaker 1: sitting there and I'm just going, wait a second. Pretty
Speaker 1: Deadly wanted the tag titles. Now Gallus is offering them
Speaker 1: a match, but they won't take. Like what's happening. Then
Speaker 1: it's explained Pretty Deadly only wants to fight Gallus if
Speaker 1: the titles are on the line. And so I guess
Speaker 1: we just have to wait for Gallus to put these
Speaker 1: damn titles on the line, because otherwise we're just spinning
Speaker 1: around in circles like this poor Virgin. We had a
Speaker 1: very wacky lyra Valkira segment. She's speaking WWE mumbo jumbo.
Speaker 1: She wasn't title shot. I don't know what's going on here.
Speaker 1: Eliot Dragona vows to break the will of JD McDonough.
Speaker 1: Then we had a fun match Dude brown Breaker and
Speaker 1: the Creeds against Gener Mahal and Indue Share. This match
Speaker 1: was fun. They're just they showed dragon Ly out there
Speaker 1: by the way. He's there. He waves. Everybody's got his
Speaker 1: mask on. He's dragon Ly. So they brawled over the
Speaker 1: place early. The Creeds first, they're just throwing these big
Speaker 1: dudes all over. Big soup plex, Big soup plex. These
Speaker 1: giant dudes bail outside. All three the baby face including
Speaker 1: brown Breaker, giant flip dives at the outside. I'm like,
Speaker 1: holy smokes. They get some heat during the break. Then
Speaker 1: it breaks down into a six way brawl. Creeds double
Speaker 1: team Veer, Brutus hits him with the brutus bomb, they
Speaker 1: get the pin. That was a good match. That was
Speaker 1: fun ball. That's what Big Joseph called it to the
Speaker 1: butter ball and then adjusted it to the brutus ball.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that was that is what I want to
Speaker 1: see and look into. Share needs to get better as
Speaker 1: a team because they just need experience. The Creeds are
Speaker 1: naturals at this. Them on the main roster one day again.
Speaker 1: You know, it's a long way off, but it's nice
Speaker 1: to think about. Then we had a train all concerned
Speaker 1: about Shawn Michaels going out for Grayson's show here, but
Speaker 1: Sean says, I think I got it, So, dude, I
Speaker 1: gotta give these guys credit. And actually I don't know
Speaker 1: if I should give them credit or if I should
Speaker 1: just talk about how beloved Johnny Gargano is. So Grayson
Speaker 1: Waller's out, there was Shawn Michaels, and you know, they're
Speaker 1: going back and forth and they're talking about bread and
Speaker 1: you won't give me a shot. And you know what
Speaker 1: I liked about it is Grayson goes, Dude, I'm the
Speaker 1: biggest star here. I got so much potential. I just
Speaker 1: can't get a break from you. And you know I
Speaker 1: hated this because you know in storyline it's like, what
Speaker 1: are you talking about? Dude? But Sean, Sean Michaels flatout says,
Speaker 1: like the exact same thing I said on this podcast.
Speaker 1: He goes, dude, what are you talking about? You got
Speaker 1: a championship match in a steel cage and Valentine's destruction
Speaker 1: or whatever, and you're lost. So what's your problem? You
Speaker 1: add your opportunity and you're a loser. Yeah, we we
Speaker 1: screwed you. You got screwed in that match. We got
Speaker 1: you a match inside of a steel cage. You lost.
Speaker 1: That's how it goes. And so now Grayson's mad because
Speaker 1: it dude's right. And then, you know, he says, you
Speaker 1: only are in this position because your friend Hunter had
Speaker 1: a heart attack, and Sean says, well, listen up, my
Speaker 1: friend asked me to do this and I did, and
Speaker 1: now I'm here and is my deal? So what do
Speaker 1: you want to do about it? And so finally, you know,
Speaker 1: Grayson challenges him to a match at Standing Deliver. He
Speaker 1: challenges Sean Michaels to a match at Standing Deliver, and
Speaker 1: Sean takes off his jacket and then he goes, you
Speaker 1: know what, everybody, including the best in the world, because
Speaker 1: he's referring to Brian Danielson, who wanted a match with
Speaker 1: Sean Michaels Wrestlemanian Sean wouldn't do it. He goes, everybody,
Speaker 1: including the best in the world, is challenge to this
Speaker 1: tree match at Mania. He goes, it's been you know,
Speaker 1: a decade or whatever. They backed the truck up to
Speaker 1: my house. I know the guy by name. It ain't happening.
Speaker 1: Nothing would thrill me more than to face you and
Speaker 1: standing the liver. But there is somebody here who will
Speaker 1: whip your ass. They want to whip your ass a
Speaker 1: lot more than I do. And so Johnny Gargano's music hits,
Speaker 1: and listen, on paper, you are teasing the return of
Speaker 1: Sean Michael's. Okay, you're flat out challenging this guy to
Speaker 1: a match, and on paper, he's gonna say no, Johnny
Speaker 1: Gargano is gonna face you. This sounds like something the
Speaker 1: fans might not accept, but boy, they hit Johnny's music
Speaker 1: and these fans went nuts for this guy. They were
Speaker 1: not let down. They were so happy to see Johnny
Speaker 1: wrestling back. He comes out and they're going crazy, and
Speaker 1: and he accepts, and so they're doing that match. Now
Speaker 1: everybody here is saying, oh, look at that. Vince shows
Speaker 1: up at Raw. Now Johnny is on NXT. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know all of the details. Okay, but this
Speaker 1: match for this show had been planned for a long time,
Speaker 1: long before a Mustachio and Vince McMahon returned. It has
Speaker 1: nothing to do with Vince being back. This was always
Speaker 1: their plan ever since you know, Grayson Waller started going
Speaker 1: nuts on Sean Michaels all the way back to then
Speaker 1: the idea had been Johnny Gargano and Grayson Waller at
Speaker 1: the show. So I know everyone's thinking it it had
Speaker 1: to be got your channel sucks. But anyway, yes, say, look,
Speaker 1: as long as there's a Triple H, there's probably going
Speaker 1: to be a Johnny Gargano in a Tomasso chompo. So
Speaker 1: I think people should be happy about that and actually
Speaker 1: think about that. Sometimes he's not getting buried. Look even
Speaker 1: if that's the case, look at it this way. Triple
Speaker 1: H knew enough and they did enough where he comes
Speaker 1: down on Wednesday, where hey, he is going to be cheered.
Speaker 1: He's not going to be made fun of on commentary
Speaker 1: or any of that sort of stuff. So you know,
Speaker 1: good play to them. We're going to figure out your
Speaker 1: tailind thing. Then we had GG Dolan and j C
Speaker 1: J and just their first match right here on TV,
Speaker 1: and it was there and the baby Face won and
Speaker 1: then JAC beat her up afterwards. And we've seen this
Speaker 1: a million times inwe the baby Face gets the revenge,
Speaker 1: but then they get attacked. And now I supposed to
Speaker 1: care about seeing them get their revenge. I already saw
Speaker 1: it So anyway, Fallon meets with Brooks Fellon Enley and
Speaker 1: she's apologizing it about Valentine's Day, and you know, Brookes says, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry it took me so long to get over this.
Speaker 1: The Virgin, I should mention, I should call him the virgins.
Speaker 1: Guys know what I'm talking about. The Virgin's all I
Speaker 1: you know, I forgive you. I'm feeling better now. So
Speaker 1: then Briggs shows up. He gets he goes talk to
Speaker 1: Keana of a man, those flowers you got? Are they
Speaker 1: look great? And Brooks kind of gets a look on
Speaker 1: his face and goes, A camel was on the desk?
Speaker 1: What she say? And he goes, She's gonna call you?
Speaker 1: And right then the phone rings and the Virgin's all excited.
Speaker 1: He picks it up. It's Fallon and he goes running
Speaker 1: off in excitement. And after he leaves, Fallon looks at
Speaker 1: the four nicator. She goes, I knew it. He didn't
Speaker 1: get her those flowers? Who got her the flowers? And
Speaker 1: then Briggs, poor Briggs, goes, damn it, Falon, I hate
Speaker 1: to admit it, but you were right. What are we
Speaker 1: gonna do about it? She says, don't worry. I have
Speaker 1: a plan. Ron Breaker comes out, sence up the match
Speaker 1: with Carmelo Hayes at the show, and we'll go over
Speaker 1: all the details different shows. But the point is, even
Speaker 1: though they've been doing this thing where we're supposed to
Speaker 1: believe that the fans have turned on bron Breaker, now
Speaker 1: they've like totally dropped it. He's out. There's a baby face,
Speaker 1: Carmelo said, there's a total baby face. They're both putting
Speaker 1: each other over. They're gonna have a baby face match
Speaker 1: at the show for the title, and I guess we
Speaker 1: got some time to, you know, do whatever. Maybe Braun
Speaker 1: turns on him or whatever, but right now it's a
Speaker 1: baby face match, So there you go. Loser goes to wwah.
Speaker 1: That's that's seems to be the scenario. I may have
Speaker 1: to mute you for a second my ears or being
Speaker 1: blown out. I'll come back to you. THEA is meditating
Speaker 1: with Tyler Bate. He's trying to, you know, teach her
Speaker 1: how to not be afraid of of of Ava. So
Speaker 1: they do the Andre Chase Joe Gacy match, and it's
Speaker 1: pretty good match. I mean, these guys are good workers.
Speaker 1: Whatever you think about the gimmicks and as uh, you know,
Speaker 1: the match is going on the outside. Also, she gets
Speaker 1: all fired up and she runs over starts screaming, Ava,
Speaker 1: I'm not afraid of you. I'm not afraid of you.
Speaker 1: And it's like, yeah, I conquered my fear and she
Speaker 1: goes do the double five five to Andre and then boom,
Speaker 1: he gets pinned. So then later they do a segment
Speaker 1: and it's all excited. She goes, man, you guys, I
Speaker 1: conquered my fear and Andre's like, yeah, you did. We
Speaker 1: need to get this tyler back. And Duke cuts and
Speaker 1: looks and goes, dude, are we ignoring the fact that
Speaker 1: you just lost? He goes, dude, this isn't this isn't
Speaker 1: a university. You know what this is. It's an embarrassment.
Speaker 1: It's a bunch of losers, and he storms off. He's
Speaker 1: not wrong. Then we had E E La Don and Albifire.
Speaker 1: They're doing witchcraft and talking about wrestling, and we had
Speaker 1: a west Lee promo there's another deal next week, Hope
Speaker 1: and challenge, and then Rock said Miko Satamura, man, they
Speaker 1: had a great match. They had a total Japanese style match.
Speaker 1: Miko Satamura finally gets pinned and then afterwards she goes
Speaker 1: to raise rock Sand's hand and it's nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 1: After rock Sand got beaten up by some marines outside
Speaker 1: a bar, she collapses. They bring everyone in. They're doing
Speaker 1: a post concussion syndrome angle at a mid nineties raw
Speaker 1: back in a moment Observer Live. All right, record on
Speaker 1: the show. Bran Elver is here Wrestling Observer Live. Mike's
Speaker 1: gonna reboot everything and hopefully everything works out tomorrow because
Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys probably started hearing that, especially in
Speaker 1: that third segment. Holy smokes, that was not good. But anyway,
Speaker 1: we got a lot coming up tonight. It'll be Wrestling
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Speaker 1: and we will have the aw Dynamite show more on NXT.
Speaker 1: I'm sure more fallout from the pay per view on
Speaker 1: Sunday and a look at all of the news. We
Speaker 1: did not have a Lance show this week. His wife
Speaker 1: was in the hospital. She's doing well now, so that's good.
Speaker 1: But we'll either reschedule this week or have it sometime
Speaker 1: usual time next week. And since Filthy did double Duty
Speaker 1: on Observer Live this week. That was his That was
Speaker 1: his work for the week. So that's the update on
Speaker 1: all that. Last night's Briant A Vinnie Show the post
Speaker 1: Rustlemania ten Raw You guys ever watched the post Rustlemania
Speaker 1: ras nowadays, go back and watch the post Rustlemania ten raw.
Speaker 1: Boy was that. That was a different story. By the way,
Speaker 1: when Lance was at the hospital yesterday, Lance is kind
Speaker 1: of like Don Callis sometimes he just wants to be
Speaker 1: put over, you know. He had that issue last week.
Speaker 1: So he went to the hospital and they went to
Speaker 1: check his just do a blood pressure check up, and
Speaker 1: his arm was way too big for the cuff. He
Speaker 1: was so muscular. They had to go get a specially
Speaker 1: you know, special cuff. So he wanted that put out there.
Speaker 1: It's twenty four inch pythons, too big for the blood
Speaker 1: pressure giving. Last time I went, my arm was too small.
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