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Speaker 1: Hi. I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 1: We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship and

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Speaker 1: what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling. Railvalry. No, no, sibling.

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Speaker 1: You don't do that with your mouth, revelry. That's good. Hi.

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Speaker 1: What's up, Ollie? You're in the car. I'm looking at

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Speaker 1: you on FaceTime and you're sitting in the car and

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Speaker 1: asspen you're still Colorado. I just did I did pilates.

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Speaker 1: I've been doing pilates. I love that pilates there. It's

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Speaker 1: the best. And you know what we did is we

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Speaker 1: set up the maze in the Haunted House. We went

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Speaker 1: and rented like a full on all of these black

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Speaker 1: curtains and rods and inside of the house that I'm redoing.

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Speaker 1: We completely mazed out the house. Oh wow, it's awesome.

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Speaker 1: And now we have to just like get we have

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Speaker 1: to figure it out. Yeah, I mean decorator. I mean

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Speaker 1: like yeah, like jump scares and where are the jump

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Speaker 1: scares for the kids, and kind of put stuff and

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Speaker 1: get you know, we got a black light coming, we

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Speaker 1: got a smoke machine, we got a strobe in an

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Speaker 1: area you know, we should hire some like out of

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Speaker 1: work actors. That's us, well me, yeah, that's our whole

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Speaker 1: family actually, so basically we're all we're all going to work.

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Speaker 1: You're going to work. I'm going to work in December.

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Speaker 1: Why it's working, it's working, pond Ma, we can hire them.

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Speaker 1: I feel like mom should be the person who like

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Speaker 1: opens the door for the kids. That's good, you know, hello,

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Speaker 1: and our Halloween is going to be like us. I

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Speaker 1: mean it's like it's just gonna be like the kids.

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Speaker 1: You like, go go like seriously, that's the fun of it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we should all play a part somehow in the whole deal.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited. It'll be really fun. But I'm doing they

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Speaker 1: the blood where they take your blood and spin it.

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Speaker 1: What's it called vampire facial the plasma? Yeah, the vampire facial.

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Speaker 1: Yeah I did that for your skin. Yeah, no, I

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Speaker 1: did it. And it was crazy. He just took a

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Speaker 1: needle was squirting it all over my face. It was cold,

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Speaker 1: it was cold, and it was in the episode. I

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Speaker 1: don't care, can we? I want to put this in

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Speaker 1: because I think that I think that it's one of

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Speaker 1: those things where people talk about women doing these kind

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Speaker 1: of fun treatments and lasers, and the reality is is

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Speaker 1: it A lot? A lot of men are doing them

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Speaker 1: now too, They just don't talk about it. Oh my god. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, before I even started, I was asking a

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Speaker 1: million questions, like, so, how many celebrities have done this?

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Speaker 1: How many men, I mean other men who do this?

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, celebrity men who've actually done this.

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Speaker 1: And they're like, and Jason, doctor Diamond's like, you wouldn't

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Speaker 1: even know. It would shock you to know the amount

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Speaker 1: of men, male celebrities who I you know, do shit to. So. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I went in and I had blood splattered all

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Speaker 1: over my face, and then they took then they needled

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Speaker 1: it in there, and then they did a fucking laser. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: and then he goes, let's try some boat talks. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: oh shit, like for real. He's like, I just trust

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Speaker 1: me that. I was like, all right, fuck it, let's

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Speaker 1: all I didn't feel like anything. Two days later, I'm

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Speaker 1: making an expression in the mirror and one eyebrow literally

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Speaker 1: is going on? I called him immediately, I'm like, Jason, did,

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Speaker 1: what the fuck you just ruined my life? He's laughing,

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Speaker 1: has come back in, and then he puts some more

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Speaker 1: it looked insane. I looked like a villain, like it

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Speaker 1: was going up. Oh so well, what happens is is

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Speaker 1: that we all have a stronger side. So when you

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Speaker 1: get something like botox, it's going to react differently. So

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Speaker 1: it's actually important when you go in and this is

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Speaker 1: for everybody out there listening for this, this is the

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Speaker 1: Botox special. When you go in, it's important that you

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Speaker 1: ask if this is uneven. I don't want to come

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Speaker 1: of course, of course, because otherwise that would be a

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Speaker 1: whole scam. I mean, then they could just fuck you

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Speaker 1: up on purpose. I know, when you come back in exactly,

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Speaker 1: be on screen. That's interesting. So he did it months

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Speaker 1: I just knew that. That's I think we should ask

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Speaker 1: should have asked McConaughey, like, what are your thoughts on botox?

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Speaker 1: And wow, do you think McConaughey has done botox or

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Speaker 1: it's great. He did look great. He looked nice to

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Speaker 1: more than I've ever ever seen him, you know. I

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Speaker 1: funny his timing is just the best. Yeah, what I

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Speaker 1: realized with this episode two was there's so much that

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Speaker 1: bigger understanding of who Matthew McConaughey is and why he

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Speaker 1: explains everything exactly totally. That's all I was about to say.

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Speaker 1: It explains everything, And I love the philosophy and the

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Speaker 1: idea that there are no reds or yellows essentially everything

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Speaker 1: a great way to look at things. Yeah, Matthew kind

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Speaker 1: this book. You will love it. It's so Matthew. I

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Speaker 1: goes in, he goes into how this book was conceived,

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Speaker 1: lucky to be here. I've been today and baby doing that,

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Speaker 1: then when Matthew, we got Patrick little brother for for

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Speaker 1: your birthday? Is that correct? Yes? He was got he

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Speaker 1: Do you know, you know he found the except that

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Speaker 1: He said, Matthew's my son. I don't know what happened

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Speaker 1: up start shirt, all this shit. You no, weighed about

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Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty pounds. I mean, I'm the cat

424
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Speaker 1: man and and I looked up and I said, I'm

425
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Speaker 1: a rope dick dog and I'm like I down. So

426
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 1: I shipped all my nice ship to my brother Patrick,

427
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 1: my boots, everything. I said, I'm going back to the way.

428
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna start all over me and I'm going back

429
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Speaker 1: to my roots. I'll never forget who I am, And

430
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Speaker 1: to this day I dressed just the way I always

431
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Speaker 1: I did back for I mean, and to this day,

432
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Speaker 1: I said, I will never forget who I am and

433
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 1: ever again, and I kind of did for a little bit.

434
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Speaker 1: I feel like your name also is like just the

435
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 1: perfect nickname for you. How where did that come from? Well,

436
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 1: it's actually a guy. I had a drinking contest with

437
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 1: a guy when I was like married with my first wife,

438
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 1: and he and I told him I really used to

439
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,439
Speaker 1: get up like at daylight the men, I mean, son up.

440
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,159
Speaker 1: I got up. It didn't make any difference. I was

441
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 1: an elevator chef. I woke up that daylight and he

442
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 1: came over and we drank beer or till I don't

443
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Speaker 1: know what time in the morning it was. And he

444
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: had been somewhere at nine in the morning, about forty

445
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 1: miles away, and it O Glenn says, I need alarms.

446
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,679
Speaker 1: Come on, man, you know you know I get up

447
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 1: first thing that day. I don't even worry about it.

448
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: About I ate forty five. I walked in there and

449
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,239
Speaker 1: I'm like shit, I said, goddamn glad man a man.

450
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,400
Speaker 1: He said, what time is it, motherfucker? I said, eight

451
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Speaker 1: forty five, and goes you rooster, mother fucker. Well it

452
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,919
Speaker 1: caught on and I and I didn't take it with

453
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 1: me to Middland, but he walked in the bar in Middland,

454
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 1: went up to see me and call me Rooster, and

455
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 1: everybody just said, that's who you are, and it ain't

456
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 1: ever's so great. I love that. Well, Matthie, when you

457
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Speaker 1: when you finally were of age to understand who your

458
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,640
Speaker 1: brother was, I mean, what did you think of him

459
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 1: from afar? I meaning you're fifteen years old and now

460
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 1: you see him now and again, and was he this

461
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: sort of sort of wild, free spirited guy who you

462
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 1: looked up to. I know that Pat was more of

463
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 1: your speed at that time. But you know, yeah, Pat

464
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Speaker 1: was must speed the time. But like when soon when

465
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 1: Pop moved on, is when I did go to Rooster

466
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: to go okay, And plus I was now twenty one,

467
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 1: And when you're twenty over eighteen twenty one, that's your

468
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 1: real right of passage in the Econaughey family, that's when

469
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 1: you know. Other than that, because we're gonna go, they're

470
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: gonna go down to Hardy here anymore. No one, you're

471
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 1: on your own. If you hadn't learned it yet, you

472
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: ain't gonna learn it. And two now instead of just

473
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 1: hearing about the stories, you can come with us to

474
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,199
Speaker 1: the ranch of the bar wherever we go, and you

475
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: can be part of the stories. So the Russia. I

476
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: then through learning about Dad and asking them stuff and

477
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: finding out stuff that I did not know, stuff that

478
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 1: I that that turned out to be even false, even

479
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: some great lives that I was like, Oh, I didn't

480
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,120
Speaker 1: know that Mom and Dad were divorced at that time.

481
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 1: I thought Mom was just on vacation down in Navar Beach,

482
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:53,679
Speaker 1: having a little summer tourself. No, they were. So I

483
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 1: found out things, and I found out things about about

484
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: Dad found out some of those things that you find

485
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 1: out when you got a parent that was on, like

486
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: where the message was different than the messenger, you know.

487
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 1: But Rooster really helped me also because some of those

488
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: things where I found out the message was different than

489
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: the messenger being my father and some of the things.

490
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: My initial reaction was what most people's initial reaction was.

491
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 1: I was pissed off, and I was I was like

492
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: sad or and Rooster got me laughing and going, man,

493
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: that's just you still keep alive those things that you

494
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 1: want to keep alive with him that he did, even

495
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: if he didn't follow him all the time. You just

496
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: take him on and not standing. And we laughed it

497
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: off and and you know, cried it off, and and

498
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: and then and then forgave and moved on and just

499
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 1: kind of was easy to quickly continue love him of

500
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 1: that for who he was and who I even thought

501
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: he was before I found out some things that he

502
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: wasn't easy for you to forgive though, I mean, it

503
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: sounds like you're you're a pretty forgiving person. Just yeah, well,

504
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 1: I mean it was actually kind of in a way,

505
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: and then it was relaxing you okay, to those hundred.

506
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 1: You learn to forgive around our health because there was

507
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: a lot to forgive right for me, and you're doing

508
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: it and you name if you're got good at it's

509
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 1: like you know, doing anything else. You know, you always

510
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: say this true. How are you gonna know? How you

511
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 1: what is it? How you know what what's right if

512
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: you don't do wrong? Yeah? Yeah, there's so much pressure

513
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 1: for people to be living some kind of like perfect

514
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: utopian kind of a life, you know, and it just

515
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 1: nothing will ever exists like that. You know. You gotta

516
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,919
Speaker 1: leave room for the mister. I want my children to

517
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: make mistakes and like have it be. It's a part

518
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: of the process. You know. Did you guys look at

519
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,959
Speaker 1: your children once you had children and take things that

520
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: you loved your parents did with you, and then other

521
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: things that you'vevowed never to do. I mean, you know,

522
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: how about emulating sort of who your who your parents were,

523
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: as as as fathers yourself. I mean, for me, I

524
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: took a lot of what you know, I took I

525
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: found great value in a lot of the ways, in

526
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: almost every way that my mom and dad raised me.

527
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: You I know, I thought that it was more having

528
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: to having children, was more about the environment they're raised

529
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: in and less about DNA. And with every single day

530
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: that my kids are a live I'm reminded, No, it's

531
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: more about DNA than it was even environment. We can

532
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: nudge them and put them in the right place, put

533
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 1: the right things in front of them, and try to

534
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: remove the wrong things from them, but basically, they're they're

535
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: who they are. Yeah, it's like it's interesting. It's like

536
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: nature versus nurture. It's our job to nurture their nature.

537
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,959
Speaker 1: We just got to be in tune enough to know

538
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: and to be aware of their nature. Yeah, I mean

539
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: I always think about that, Like if Jeffrey Dahmer was

540
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: a baby and raised by the Mcconaugheyes, would he be

541
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Dahmer? You know, would he be eating people at

542
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: the end of the day or no? I mean that's

543
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Speaker 1: lock him in the free locked him in ya You

544
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: saw that. Ely they would give them some good penance.

545
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546
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547
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548
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549
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550
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552
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553
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556
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557
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558
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560
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620
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621
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Speaker 1: a great like, I mean, just an example of your mom.

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623
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624
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625
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626
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631
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Speaker 1: this is great, she's putting it on. She's going door

632
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Speaker 1: to door. Well, I'm about fourteen fifteen, got a little

633
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634
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635
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: she goes, you should put on this oil of milk.

636
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: So I start each night running down face oil of

637
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: milk cover my face. After about a week, I've got

638
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: quite a few more pimples and she's like, I go Mom,

639
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 1: She's like, oh, it's the impurities coming out. It's working.

640
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: About another week, I'm putting it on. All of a sudden,

641
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 1: I'm getting my face is starting to get swollen, and

642
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: it's like it's ugly, and I'm like, mom, she goes, wow,

643
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: I got a lot of impurities. I go three weeks

644
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden, it's I don't I

645
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: look like the eel man, I'm swollen up. I've got

646
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 1: full blown major action. And I sneak off to the

647
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: dermatologist and he says, whoa, my god, man, what are

648
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: you put in your faith. I showed him this miinkle

649
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: and he goes, no, no, no, no, no, no no no.

650
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: That's for like people over forty. This is clogging up

651
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: your pores. You've got all these skin going through that

652
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: lessons you can't put this on your skin. Got me

653
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: on acutine. So bad for your miracle miracle drug, right,

654
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: but so bad saved my ass. So so I get

655
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 1: I get on that, and if it goes on for

656
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: a year, you get the dry so that you get dander,

657
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,399
Speaker 1: if your knees, your joints hurt, all this other stuff. Well,

658
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 1: as I'm getting on that, Dad gets the idea that

659
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: he's going and he says a lot about Dad. He

660
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:48,919
Speaker 1: let me get him a lawyer litigation. Look, I should

661
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: be a lawyer. I make a little money off of

662
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: this thing. I mean, doesn't even say on the bottle.

663
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: You know that no kid's supposed to put that on

664
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: his face. I mean, what the hell I mean? And

665
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call my lawyer. Cherry Harrison was down, Gus, Jerry, Jerry,

666
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 1: what do you think, Jerry? Jerry goes mental fatigue, no

667
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: lack of confidence. I think we got a case here

668
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 1: with your son, Jim. I think we can make thirty

669
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: five to fifty thousand dollars take this company down because

670
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: they shouldn't have been given. So he sees me and

671
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: Jerry's like, god, damn boy, look at you. You're all swallowed.

672
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 1: You don't even look like yourself. My god. He goes,

673
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: was it Did you have mental anguish from this experience

674
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: with this MiG Yes, sir, and he goes, look like,

675
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: what did you lose confidence? And I'm like, look at

676
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: my dad, and Dad's going, yeah, I lost confidence. And

677
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: he's like, did you did it harm? Were you doing

678
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: as well with the girls. I look at Dad and

679
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 1: Dad's like going, and I'm like, no, I was doing

680
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: horrible with the girls. That was a dry man. It

681
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: was it was. It was horrible and I lost confidence.

682
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. And he goes, we got it. Thirty

683
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: five to fifty thousand, we brought, we walked that line,

684
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: and in the prosecution we got this money. So oh,

685
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: here we go. Now, as you know, depositions and court

686
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: case go on a while. It was more he was

687
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,280
Speaker 1: going to super a lot more. Memory had to settle

688
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: at first seven because of what happened here, you're going

689
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: to tell why well, anyway, Cut to year. Cut to

690
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:15,959
Speaker 1: eighteen months later. I'm now a senior. The acne's gone,

691
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: the acutane work all right, I'm now a senior. I'm

692
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,240
Speaker 1: sitting in the law office now talking to the defense

693
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: attorney who's sitting across from me, and he's like, going,

694
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 1: I mean, the mental anguish just must have been so

695
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 1: tough for you, Matthew. And I'm in my mind going,

696
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: I can't believe he's serving me this softball and hit

697
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: this other park. I'm like, oh, yes, sir, it was.

698
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: It was. It was horrible. I mean. He goes, I

699
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: bet you just lost so much confidence. I said, oh

700
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: I did. Yeah. He goes, what else? I go, I

701
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,240
Speaker 1: wouldn't do anything with the girls, man, I was depressed.

702
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, so tough, so tough. And he took

703
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 1: a pause and he reaches into the decie pulls out

704
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: this green yearbook. He's got to be flagged. He opens

705
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: it up, turns around and slides it in front of me,

706
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: puts his finger out on it. He goes, who's that?

707
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: And it was a picture of me next to Camisa Springs.

708
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: In my senior year, I'd won most Handsome, most Beautiful,

709
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: and I knew right there. I was like, oh, it's over,

710
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,720
Speaker 1: blew it. And I looked up at him and he goes,

711
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: It's been so tough, hadn't it? And I'm like, damn,

712
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: we lost? And I reader that what the hell, boy?

713
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: We were gonna make fifty grand and you gotta run off?

714
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: And when goddamn most handsome and screw the new Yeah

715
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,919
Speaker 1: you get dumb ass Red? Did he gets the most handsom? God? Damn?

716
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: What the hell? God? I love that story. That's amazing.

717
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: I mean, you really did have your Your childhood is

718
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 1: so full of amazing stories. You know, when did you

719
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: become such a traveler and a wanderer? Because it started early, man,

720
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 1: I mean I was reading about you and and just

721
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,760
Speaker 1: you know, you were just on your own trip, living

722
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 1: the life honestly that I would like to live right

723
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: now with three kids and just doing your thing and

724
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 1: happy and just pursuing whatever was in your heart at

725
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: that moment. Like what was that just innate? Was there

726
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: any running away at all from a psychological standpoint or

727
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: was this just I need to be out? I don't know.

728
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: I mean it started with two weeks out of high

729
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 1: a week right right, right? If finished high school. Like everybody,

730
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: I didn't know what the hell I wanted to do

731
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 1: where I was going to go to college. I was

732
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: just going to think I was going to go be

733
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: a lawyer, but I did wasn't sure, and my mom said,

734
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: what about be an exchange student? And I was like,

735
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: that sounds great? So went down and there was an

736
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: opening for Sweden and Australia, and I was thinking, in

737
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,720
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty eight, sunny beaches, element fiers and English speaking,

738
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: I'm going to Australia. So two weeks later, boom. I

739
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: went over there for a year, came back from that,

740
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: started school, and really didn't do much more big traveling

741
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: until I got out to Hollywood and sort of became successful.

742
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: After I got famous, with the time to kill, I

743
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,919
Speaker 1: needed to go find some places where Ilway had nothing

744
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: but me and a a backpack and took take these twenty

745
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: two day trips on my own to there, to Peru

746
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: or Africa. And then I tried out a grand experiment

747
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: of living on the road for three and a half

748
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: years of my airstream, which worked, and that's back when

749
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 1: we only had the blackberries. But it worked, and so

750
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, if I got to meet with

751
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,399
Speaker 1: Kate or director somewhere. I'll pick them up in Albuquerque

752
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 1: tomorrow morning, and I'm going to keep driving west and

753
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: I'll drop them off in Phoenix or Lpasso. Wasn't that

754
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: kind of when, right like after How to Lose a

755
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 1: Guy that you did a lot of the airstream travel

756
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: or was that before? A lot of it was before

757
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: we were what was How to Lose a Guy ninety nine,

758
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:59,959
Speaker 1: ninety seven, two thousand one. A lot of it was before,

759
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: and there were still some of it after. Yeah, okay, yeah,

760
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,240
Speaker 1: because I remember you checking out and going air streaming

761
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 1: after that. Yeah, I mean, you know, now we got

762
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: kids and Oliver, you got three kids. Those days have

763
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: thrown that backpack on his end. See you later heading

764
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: out tomorrow with us. I just bought a trailer because

765
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: the kids love it. We went on a two week

766
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 1: adventure this summer and uh A rented one and then

767
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: I bought one. I wanted to buy an airstream, but

768
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 1: I was going to go cheaper just to make sure

769
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 1: I liked it and then build one out. You know

770
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: that I really love and I just love that feeling,

771
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: that freedom of just being with your family in the

772
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: middle of fucking nowhere, and before you freaked out. You

773
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: freaked out on your forty four on your birthday, wasn't it. Yeah, yeah,

774
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: forty four listen, Yeah, that's what freaked out in here,

775
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 1: and your shiitterested you were going to freak out. You

776
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: freaked out, couldn't get your breath or some kind of ship.

777
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 1: Oh his panic panic. I went to Yeah. I went

778
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 1: through major anxiety in my twenties. Yeah, fucking for a year,

779
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 1: losing it, like, couldn't leave the house, throwing up. You know.

780
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: I was trying to be an actor at the time.

781
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: I was twenty four years old, still trying to audition,

782
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: and I got a I got I called back. I

783
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,240
Speaker 1: had to go to New York and read with Laura

784
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: Lenny and I remember I had to get on this plane.

785
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: I was throwing up the whole plane ride. I land,

786
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: I go to sleep, I'm throwing up on the on

787
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: fifth Avenue. I mean, it's not funny, but it was.

788
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: I was a fucking mess. I was a mess for

789
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: about eight or nine months, just trying to figure it out.

790
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: I went to every doctor you can imagine, and then

791
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: I just started meditating. I had my rock that I

792
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 1: would walk up to and meditate and write in my journal,

793
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: and eventually I was able to sort of come out

794
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: of it. But it was a gnarly, gnarly time for

795
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: me in my in my in my early twenties. Now

796
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: it's more about sweating rooster. Now now he just can't sweat.

797
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: So it's a that's a that's the news. Some shit's

798
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: going on. He's got to figure Avelena, I don't. That's me,

799
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 1: that's you. That's right. So, Oliver, what was it? Were

800
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 1: you were? You? Were you compounding your thoughts and making

801
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 1: everything too complicated, overthinking stuff? Yeah? I think it was

802
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 1: again trying to be an actor, not really taking it seriously.

803
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 1: Kate was famous, famous parents, not understanding sort of where

804
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: I fit in. It was almost like a quarter life

805
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: crisis in a way, you know. I I just was

806
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: not secure with who I was or who I was

807
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 1: supposed to be. I didn't know what I wanted. I

808
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 1: didn't know what I loved. It wasn't acting at the time.

809
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: I I was just sort of drifting, you know, And

810
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 1: it all compounded In one moment. I was walking into

811
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: Crazy Girls and my friend was walking ahead of me,

812
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: and I took a step and it was as if

813
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,760
Speaker 1: my heart exploded. I thought I was having a heart attack,

814
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 1: and I went down to a knee and almost reached

815
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 1: for him. His name was John. I was like John,

816
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: and he didn't hear me, and I was like, I'm

817
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: gonna fucking die in Hollywood in front of crazy girls

818
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 1: right now. This is going to be horrible for my

819
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: entire family. I gathered myself, got my breath back, I

820
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: went in, had a vodka, and I was like, I

821
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,399
Speaker 1: got to settle down, and then eventually I had to leave.

822
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 1: And that moment was the mark of about eight to

823
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: nine months of just hell and I got you know,

824
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: I was in therapy and trying to figure it out

825
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: medical first, and then realizing that this has nothing to

826
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 1: do with my physical body. It was all about my

827
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: emotional state, and I wouldn't trade it for the world.

828
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: I learned a lot about myself in those eight and

829
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: nine ten months, and it's still the foundation of of

830
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 1: sort of how I think today. You know, I'm able

831
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: to sort of draw back on what that felt like

832
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: and why I felt that way. But unconscious, it was

833
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 1: totally unconscious. I thought life was fucking great. You know,

834
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 1: it turns out. It wasn't. But you know, it's interesting

835
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 1: because because Matthew, you know, you're you're sort of this

836
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 1: came up for you because you're talking about how Matthew

837
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: like it was a wander and traveled so much with

838
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: like you know, like he's saying, put his backpack on

839
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: and check out for twenty two days and just completely independent.

840
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 1: Whereas what you're relating to, it's like now in your life,

841
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: you're like, oh my god, what I would give yeah

842
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: to put on a backpack a lot do that. Whereas before,

843
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 1: really you couldn't leave the palace ades. No, I was

844
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Speaker 1: living at home. You couldn't. You couldn't. You had such

845
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: a hard time. Here's my My thing was is that

846
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 1: I was too comfortable I was. I had left college

847
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 1: after two years. I was a PA for a while.

848
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: I took a film class. I didn't wasn't making any

849
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: real money. I was trying to be an actor because

850
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: my whole family did. It. Got into class. I liked it,

851
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: but it was still unsure of who I was, and uh,

852
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Speaker 1: I just it was it was I was too complacent.

853
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: I was drinking, you know, a ton, not studying for

854
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Speaker 1: any audition, and eventually what I did, was I moved

855
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Speaker 1: out of the house with not a lot of money,

856
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Speaker 1: but trying to put some sort of pressure on myself

857
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Speaker 1: to perform. And it worked. I mean, after two months

858
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Speaker 1: of being out of my house, I got my first

859
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Speaker 1: TV gig and and and that was that was that.

860
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: You know, it's a you know, a common thing thats

861
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Speaker 1: come up at every story we've told, and not condoning

862
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 1: any one one way of any of them, but we're

863
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Speaker 1: every story here is shining a light on the value

864
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 1: of resistance and having to overcome something. And you know,

865
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: we had sometimes have to give put ourselves in that

866
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 1: forest winter like you did. You had to move out,

867
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: and I got, I gotta get hungry, I got. I know,

868
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 1: when I was in Australia, I became celibate. I was

869
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 1: a vegetarian. I was running six miles AA just because

870
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: I needed to create daily disciplines, just like I keep

871
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 1: my dam sanity, you know what I mean, and without them,

872
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: you know, enough of it. If we're allowed to eat

873
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: cake for every meal, it's great until a few months

874
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: go by it And And you know, I mean, it's like

875
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: need assistance to overcome. It's true, It's so true. And

876
00:47:54,719 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: I've always go over thinkers. Yeah, but Rooster, I think that.

877
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 1: God damn COMI motherfucker, you're going You're not wrong. You're

878
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,399
Speaker 1: not wrong. I mean I I do overthink a lot

879
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 1: of shit. You're not wrong. I mean me dot Hey.

880
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,280
Speaker 1: This trait of Rooster and my mother are two traits

881
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 1: that I really don't practice as much as I wish

882
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: I could. But I quite envy. I mean, you talk

883
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: about resilience. This rooster has this too, not as much,

884
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 1: not as much as Mom. But Mom is the queen

885
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: of this. When I went to mom, Mom, don't you

886
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 1: have anything that you regret? Don't you have anything that

887
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: you're like things that you do at the end of

888
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 1: the day, we're like, oh geez, I could have done

889
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: that better, and she goes, oh honey. Every night I

890
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: get in bed, I go through a mental list and

891
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: it's along of the things I regret and the things

892
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 1: that I just need to work on and do better.

893
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, well, good she did. But the thing is,

894
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: and I wake up in the morning, I forgot them all.

895
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: Forgave it gives themselves quicker, you know, Okay, there's a

896
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:16,399
Speaker 1: magic trick. Just forget them. God, I feel bad longer

897
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 1: than her, you know, And I like, no, you you you, yeah,

898
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,839
Speaker 1: you will you gonna. I'll call up and say, hey man,

899
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: whatever you know you know ship that I get out

900
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: of line or something, you know, and and and yeah,

901
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 1: longer than her, but I but I like to bring

902
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 1: it to a head. And the worst thing you wake

903
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 1: up with, Matthew, you and I live by this is

904
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 1: a guilty conference. The worst thing you can live wake

905
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 1: up just just horrible. That's the biggest burden I ever

906
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,879
Speaker 1: have is waking up with a guilty conference. It's all

907
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: just tears us up. Right, But then what do you do, Ruth?

908
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: You just you just say fuck it? You push it?

909
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: You just push it away? Or do you deal with

910
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,919
Speaker 1: why you're guilty? No, rooster doesn't rooster, You don't push

911
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,879
Speaker 1: it away. You go through. Mal will deny it every time,

912
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: right and and just it's a brand new day and

913
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 1: it's a fresh start. Well I have this theory. Yeah,

914
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:10,399
Speaker 1: she's a different, different animal. Rooster. You you you, you are conscientious,

915
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: You have a Jimminy cricket on your shoulder. But you

916
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,800
Speaker 1: will push through. And you're crazy enough to go face

917
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: exactly what it is or whoever it is that right

918
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: of way you can't even get to sleep that night

919
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 1: without handling it right then that's great. But but how

920
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: I but how I'll get through it that day is

921
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: is I think to myself, how bad am I gonna

922
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 1: feel two weeks from now? It's probably not gonna be

923
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: there as bad two weeks ago. So I try to

924
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 1: make myself think how I'm gonna feel later on, you know,

925
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 1: so many days later, and that gets you through the day.

926
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 1: But then you but but you hate you want everybody

927
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: else that you think, yeah, you know, you want everybody

928
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,919
Speaker 1: else to think that if you thought you screwed somebody around,

929
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 1: you kind of want them to think you know them

930
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: to be okay too, you know, you know you know

931
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: what I mean. I mean, and so, but to get

932
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: through certain things, you gotta go, well, how am I

933
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: gonna feel ten days from now? Probably gonna feel near bad.

934
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: I know. Now I'll be over the fact that that

935
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:06,359
Speaker 1: said something embarrassing? Oh yeah, which God done some embarrassing ship?

936
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I mean, look, look, I

937
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,959
Speaker 1: I have lived with so much guilt in my life,

938
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 1: but I can't I couldn't hold on, you know, specifically

939
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 1: not to get into my whole life, but with my

940
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Speaker 1: with my wife, and she's my wife. Now. When we

941
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,280
Speaker 1: were engaged, I went through a fucked up situation, totally

942
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:26,240
Speaker 1: faithful for three years. God engaged, and some psychology happened

943
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 1: where I just spiraled. I went into a dark, dark,

944
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,760
Speaker 1: dark hole, drinking a lot. I was out of my mind,

945
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: never got caught. But on my thirtieth birthday, I will

946
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: cut this, will cut. No, that's all right, I told

947
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: I told, I told her. I told her, Rooster's gonna

948
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 1: get Ahold of the Masters and touch for it. But

949
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,359
Speaker 1: my point is is that I would take showering. I'm

950
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 1: gonna get a couple of just living. I couldn't live

951
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: with the guilt anymore. I would showers and cry in

952
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 1: the fucking shower and then go out and be an

953
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 1: asshole again to the point where I did what you did?

954
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 1: How am I gonna feel? In ten days? I'll be better.

955
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 1: I'll be better. But that ship piles up, and eventually

956
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 1: it all came to a head where I couldn't live

957
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Speaker 1: with myself anymore and continue a life with this person

958
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: and have children and all that without getting it all out,

959
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 1: because I just felt disgusting and all like a horrible

960
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,399
Speaker 1: human being. You you got it, figgure it out either

961
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 1: you stay the hell with it. I'm just gonna goddamn

962
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 1: be a sorry son of a bit. Yeah all right,

963
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a good guy. Yeah, that's part of

964
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:36,359
Speaker 1: it is guilt and in your confidence and you and

965
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 1: you and you mention you get there. Yeah, they're all different, christer.

966
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00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 1: did you say I'm going to go to LA and

1051
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: I'm going to try this acting thing. Right, So I

1052
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 1: make a phone call to my dad between my junior

1053
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 1: between my sophomore junior year, I was now getting to

1054
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 1: that last two years of college where and I'm thinking

1055
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 1: I'm going to be a lawyer and all of a sudden,

1056
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 1: it starts hitting me that whoa, I go to I

1057
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 1: finished school here, I go to law school for another

1058
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 1: four three four years. I get out. I'm really not

1059
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 1: going to be able to put my mark in the

1060
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 1: world until I'm in my thirties. Well, I don't want

1061
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 1: to really spend my whole twenties in class. And I

1062
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 1: had been writing a lot, and I'd shared stories with

1063
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 1: a friend of mine and Rob Benler, and he was like, Hey, no, what,

1064
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: You're writing some good stories and stuff. And you know,

1065
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 1: we ever thought going into the storytelling does in the

1066
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 1: filmmaker is behind the camera. Now I look back at

1067
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 1: my diaries like I did go through writing the book.

1068
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 1: I wouldn't admit that I wanted to be in front

1069
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 1: of the camera back then, but I did. I couldn't

1070
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 1: even dream it though. It was still like I was

1071
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 1: an embarrassing thought, like it's too avant garde to European.

1072
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: You got to work your way up a scale in

1073
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 1: a ladder company ladder that's how you you're a blue

1074
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 1: blue collar family, that the arts are not in the

1075
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 1: vernacular of something to dream to do. A book finds

1076
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 1: me the greatest salesman in the world, which somehow dispersed

1077
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 1: me to go I'm going to have the courage. I'm

1078
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 1: doing it, but I got to call Dad first and

1079
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 1: tell him I want to go to film school instead

1080
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 1: of law school. I call him. I remember time ed

1081
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: it out. I'm going to call him at seven thirty.

1082
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 1: He'll be home from work, hap dinner. He'll be sitting

1083
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 1: down with a drink or something. I'll catch it. And

1084
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: I remember telling Dad. I said, Dad, I want to

1085
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 1: go to film school instead of law school. I caught

1086
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 1: my bread pause on the other end of the line.

1087
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, he goes, my son, is that

1088
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 1: what you want to do? Said yes, sir. Another pause

1089
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 1: on that end of the line, one two, three, four

1090
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 1: five seconds. Then I heard them, some of those beautiful

1091
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 1: words I've ever heard out of my dad's mouth. He goes, well,

1092
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 1: don't half asset, and I was like, oh, not only

1093
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 1: did he give me his approval, man, he just sent

1094
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 1: me a flight and said, if you're gonna do it,

1095
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 1: go do it. Don't half asket. So love that enrolled

1096
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 1: in film school, went to film school, and then a

1097
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 1: jew between junior and senior year. I was in the

1098
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 1: right bar right time met Don Phillips got cast in

1099
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 1: days confused, three lines turned into three weeks work. People

1100
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 1: were telling me I was good at it. I was

1101
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 1: making three hundred and twenty bucks a day. I'm going

1102
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 1: to you kidding me? Is this legal? I go back

1103
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 1: to school graduate. I had a PA job on a

1104
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 1: Hudsucker proxy. I'm a cut rough. I believe she was

1105
01:00:55,520 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 1: a reflection coordinator on Dazed. It got me a pah job. Well,

1106
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 1: I go out to Hollywood when I loaded up U

1107
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 1: haul in two thousand bucks and that movie got pushed,

1108
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 1: so the PA job was no longer there, and I

1109
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 1: moved Don phillips couch, and I remember another great lesson.

1110
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 1: I'm telling him one. I go, man, I need to

1111
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 1: get an agent, and he I, do you ever know

1112
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 1: if you know the legendary Don Phillips, he cast Fast

1113
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 1: Times and Dazed, and he's one of the kind of

1114
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 1: Hollywood's legendary casting directors. But he jumped down my throat

1115
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 1: and said, what you need to do is get the

1116
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 1: fuck out of here. If this town smells somebody needy,

1117
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 1: you're done. Get the fuck out of here. Go ride motor.

1118
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 1: And I called my buddies, Rory Cochran and cole Hauser,

1119
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 1: and we went to Europe and rode motorcycles for a month,

1120
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 1: didn't think about acting. Came back, hadn't even thought about it.

1121
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 1: One night, he goes, you're ready. I go for what.

1122
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 1: He goes. We got a meeting in tomorrow morning, went

1123
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 1: down to an agency. An agent signed me on, and

1124
01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 1: then I got very fortunate. The very first audition I

1125
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 1: ever had had in Hollywood was for Hank mccannon and

1126
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 1: he was casting boys on the Side with Drew Barrymore

1127
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 1: will be Godberg and Mary Mary Mary and and I

1128
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 1: got that. And then my second audition in Hollywood was

1129
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 1: I walked on the Warner Brothers lot into a was

1130
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 1: for Angels in the outfield. They were looking for an

1131
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 1: outfield baseball player. All American kids, they said. So I

1132
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 1: put on my American cap and a white T shirt.

1133
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 1: I opened the damn door, and there on the couch

1134
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 1: is the producer. I'm backlit by the three PM son.

1135
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 1: He goes, oh, look at you, and I go, yes, sir.

1136
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 1: He goes, you ever played baseball? I said twelve years.

1137
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 1: He goes, you got the part Boom You're going to

1138
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 1: You're going to Oakland. We're gonna pay you schedule f

1139
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 1: forty eight five to go play baseball. This is the

1140
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 1: best job I never like, you know, I didn't. I

1141
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 1: didn't have to do the wait tables. I didn't have to.

1142
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 1: I didn't have to ever take that PA job. And

1143
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 1: and so that's when but I secretly, when I look

1144
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 1: back at my jersey, I wanted to be uh. I

1145
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 1: wanted to be in front of the camera earlier than

1146
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 1: I would admit it. And then in time to kill

1147
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 1: was the big one, right, I mean that was let

1148
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 1: me give you all a deal on this guy. The

1149
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 1: most fun was when he did. We went out to

1150
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 1: his first premiere Days and Community in Westwood, and and

1151
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 1: we and he and I and so were they And

1152
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 1: it was a cheap, you know, it wasn't a very elaborate,

1153
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 1: uh premiere. And I think, I don't know. It's in

1154
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 1: some back rooms, so I don't where. It was a

1155
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:28,959
Speaker 1: little theater. And he and I they got anything to drink,

1156
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 1: and man, I don't know, So he and I run

1157
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 1: to a liquor store. I mean we're just a couple

1158
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 1: of you know, man, I'm excited. I don't know. Ship

1159
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 1: he burned into it. He don't know ship And we're

1160
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:40,920
Speaker 1: running over. We're all excited, so so so we go.

1161
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 1: We anyways, we do, We do the deal and then

1162
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:45,919
Speaker 1: he stays up. We get and I rent a limo.

1163
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 1: Remember I rent a limbo. We ride out a bottle

1164
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 1: of the line, snuck it in corpse crew popped that

1165
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 1: drinks the win. So we're riding around this limo all

1166
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 1: night long. He's got a lift shotgun apartment. I swear

1167
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 1: it's so small that you could ship and scramble eggs

1168
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 1: at the same time. That's where it got you. Not

1169
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 1: you can send on that tolet and you could literally

1170
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 1: god damn hold of dad gum grilla. I mean, that's

1171
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 1: why you barely get in there. The bathroom's on your right,

1172
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 1: the stoves on your left. There's a loft up there.

1173
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 1: You could I promised you could ship and scramble ags

1174
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 1: at the same time, he said. I said, look it

1175
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 1: is Matthew Man. You can cook. Wait, take got a craft.

1176
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, come on man, you know. So he

1177
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 1: disappears that night and beat me. Being from the old school,

1178
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 1: I get a phone call and it's the guy. They

1179
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 1: producers from Days and Confuse want to know where Matthew

1180
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 1: McConaughey is And they said, I said, what do you mean,

1181
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 1: where is he? And they said, when we were thingels

1182
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 1: in the outbuilding, he's supposed to have been there at

1183
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 1: eleven o'clock and it's three o'clock right now. I said, well, sire,

1184
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 1: the son of a bitch fi gonna show up on God,

1185
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 1: I go on the firing and I mean, just because

1186
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 1: it's up my dad out there, that that you know

1187
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 1: you ain't gonna be in there, that you're fired. Well, hell,

1188
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about the business. And sure, and

1189
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:03,920
Speaker 1: that you got letmebe get you better fleep in the

1190
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 1: airport right matth view. Yeah, in the back of that

1191
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 1: level when I fell asleep. And on the road trip back,

1192
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 1: they gave me some amnesty. They knew that I had

1193
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 1: quite enjoyed the night before. But oh my god, but

1194
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 1: it was so memorable. But was that was that? Was

1195
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 1: that a character that you just came up with on

1196
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 1: the spot, or was that something that was in your mind?

1197
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 1: You know? I mean, now that was you mean Waterson

1198
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 1: huh and dazed Waters and day So y'all know this

1199
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 1: as as actors, sometimes you know, you study details of

1200
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 1: a character and you and other times it's just an impression.

1201
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 1: That character was based off a specific day when I

1202
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 1: was about ten years old going to pick up Mom

1203
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 1: and I were going to pick up my brother Pat

1204
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 1: after school. His card broke down. Sweet. We were supposed

1205
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 1: to pick him up in the station wagon and he

1206
01:05:57,520 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 1: wasn't where we were supposed to meet him. So as

1207
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 1: we're slowly dry been through campus, I'm in the back

1208
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 1: seat looking out the back window, and I see this

1209
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 1: image of this guy shadow leaning against the wall in

1210
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 1: the smoking section with one leg, one boot, heel kicked

1211
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 1: up on the on the wall, the light shining through

1212
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 1: the bent knee, leaning back, kind of a lazy long end,

1213
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 1: and I was like, whoa. He was like nine feet tall,

1214
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 1: the coolest thing in the world. And I was my

1215
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 1: brother Pat, and I remember going, there's Pat. And I

1216
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 1: stopped because I was like, Oh, if I say his name,

1217
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 1: Mom turns around, he's gonna get his butt up for smoking.

1218
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 1: So I didn't say anything. He just kept driving. But

1219
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 1: that image of who I thought my brother was through

1220
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 1: my ten year old eyes when he was that much

1221
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 1: of an icon, was who I based And then link

1222
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 1: Lighter let you just you know, it was a lot

1223
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 1: of improv in that character or was it all written? Yeah?

1224
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 1: I mean because one of my favorites, one of my

1225
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 1: favorite lines still to this day is is you gotta

1226
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 1: you gotta joint? You like be cooler if you if

1227
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 1: you did that ship? Well, it just seems like the

1228
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 1: lions from that have followed your entire career, Like, isn't

1229
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 1: it wild how that happens? And it's like, yeah, iconic character,

1230
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 1: here's how I here's how I would see it. Right.

1231
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 1: It's like it's like some people like, let's let's use

1232
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 1: a rock star real quick. Was that your line? Was

1233
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 1: that your line or was that a written line? I

1234
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 1: gotta know, I don't think that scene was in there.

1235
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 1: I don't remembut what scene? What here's the line that

1236
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 1: was in there? That was the launch pad line? No man,

1237
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 1: I get older, they stay the same age. Yeah that

1238
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 1: And I was like I saw that line, I was like,

1239
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 1: who is that guy? I believe that? Yeah, there's a

1240
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 1: bed on him exactly. But it's funny like I think

1241
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 1: about musicians or pop stars or rockstars to have a

1242
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 1: hit song and then like twenty years later they got

1243
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 1: to play the hit song and after like some for

1244
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 1: some people it could be like, oh my god, I

1245
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 1: hate this, I hate the song, I hate it now,

1246
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 1: I hate playing it, I hate do right. And to me,

1247
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:04,440
Speaker 1: there's certain certain iconic moments like I have it with

1248
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 1: almost famous, like you know, people yelling out it's all happening,

1249
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 1: or you know all of that, you know, and with

1250
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 1: with with Das and confused, you've got all right, all right,

1251
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 1: all right, you've got I love them Redhead. I mean

1252
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 1: it's followed you, but like, how are you? What's your

1253
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:23,839
Speaker 1: relationship with that? Here's why I have a great relationship,

1254
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 1: especially with all Right. All right, all right, those are

1255
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 1: the first three words I ever said on film. All Right.

1256
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 1: That night when I got called to set to do

1257
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:35,479
Speaker 1: a makeup wardrobe test, which y'all know are and doesn't

1258
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 1: mean you're working. It means the director's going to come

1259
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:39,599
Speaker 1: over and check out your makeup wardrobe while he's on

1260
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 1: set or she's on set, and then approve it and

1261
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 1: you come back when you're supposed to work. That's what

1262
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 1: that night was for me. Well, link letter comes over,

1263
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 1: his hands out, starts going look at you. Okay, you

1264
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 1: get peach to be peach shirt, you got the peach pants?

1265
01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 1: Come over, black panther tattoo pipe render, and I got like,

1266
01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:58,559
Speaker 1: this is Woterson? Like yeah, he goes say, you know,

1267
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:01,880
Speaker 1: Watterson's guy probably been with the typical hot chicks in

1268
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 1: high school, you know, the cheerleader, the most popular major red.

1269
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:06,640
Speaker 1: I'm like yeah, and he goes, you think he'd be

1270
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:09,479
Speaker 1: interested in the red headed intellectual. I'm like, oh, yeah, man,

1271
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:12,639
Speaker 1: Whatterson likes all types of chicks. And he's like, well,

1272
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:15,839
Speaker 1: you know, Marissa Rabisi is playing the red headed intellectional

1273
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:18,599
Speaker 1: and she's over here in the in the drive through

1274
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:20,800
Speaker 1: with her friends in the back and they're kind of

1275
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 1: nerdy and stuff, and I don't know what you think

1276
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:24,519
Speaker 1: Waterson might pull up and pick her up. And I'm like,

1277
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 1: give me thirty minutes. And I went on a walk

1278
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:28,599
Speaker 1: and I was like, who's my man, who's my man?

1279
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 1: Who's my man? Right? So I next thing I know,

1280
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 1: I'm in the car and about to do my first

1281
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 1: scene ever in film, and there's no lines. I'm just

1282
01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:39,720
Speaker 1: supposed to go pick her up. And I remember going

1283
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:41,760
Speaker 1: to my head silently going who's my man? And what

1284
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:44,599
Speaker 1: am I about? And I go, I'm about my car,

1285
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 1: and I said, well, I'm in my seventy Chevelle. There's one,

1286
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 1: and then I'm like, I'm about getting high, and I'm like, well,

1287
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:53,679
Speaker 1: Slater's writing shotgun. He's always got a nice dubie. Rolled up.

1288
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 1: There's two, and I said, I'm about rock and roll.

1289
01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:58,680
Speaker 1: I said, well, I got nugent stranglehold in the eight

1290
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:01,599
Speaker 1: track right here. Man. There's three. And then I action,

1291
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 1: and I said here action. I look up and over

1292
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 1: at Marissabci, the red headed intellectual, I'm gonna go pick up.

1293
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 1: And then to myself, I go and I'm about picking

1294
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:15,639
Speaker 1: up chicks. Put it and drive pulled out and said

1295
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:18,479
Speaker 1: the affirmative for the three things I do have, going

1296
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:28,960
Speaker 1: get going to get the fourth? Alright, alright, alright. Let

1297
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people. That's a lot of

1298
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 1: people are known for picking their nose, and you know,

1299
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 1: eight buggers when their little kid, this guy gets all right,

1300
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:42,160
Speaker 1: all right, all right. And I didn't know that night

1301
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 1: that if this was just a one off, little one

1302
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:45,720
Speaker 1: night hobby, I was going to be a part of,

1303
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:48,639
Speaker 1: and that was going to be it for years later

1304
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:50,720
Speaker 1: is turned into a career. So that's the call back

1305
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 1: to the very first words I ever said on them

1306
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:56,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, say them anyway, Brandom put them on

1307
01:10:56,800 --> 01:11:00,280
Speaker 1: a T shirt, yell them across the street. Yes, that's

1308
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 1: such a healthy love that yeah, really nice. Yeah, it's

1309
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:07,639
Speaker 1: so it's like filled with gratitude. You know. Brewster when

1310
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 1: he when when Matthew found that success, was everyone in

1311
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 1: the family happy? Do you give him? Ship? Was it?

1312
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:14,640
Speaker 1: You know? I mean you watch him? Oh man, it was,

1313
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 1: it was. It was so much fun in the beginning.

1314
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's not fun now, but I mean,

1315
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 1: you know, you're like, I mean, you know how the

1316
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:27,639
Speaker 1: thrill especially you're not in that that that world. I mean,

1317
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:31,080
Speaker 1: it's just like it was just the funniest time. I really.

1318
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:34,040
Speaker 1: I remember he called me on the golf course, I'm

1319
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:37,120
Speaker 1: gonna get kind of cheary out here maybe, And I

1320
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 1: was playing golf and he got that deal for time

1321
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 1: to Kill, and it was like because you know, he

1322
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:44,000
Speaker 1: didn't have to struggle as long as like a lot

1323
01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 1: of people do, because he was hitting and he worked hard.

1324
01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 1: But when he got that deal, I guess it was

1325
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 1: Warner Brothers. And when he said, I got this job

1326
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 1: with time to kill, and it was just like, you know,

1327
01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 1: I had and of course, you know, we had all

1328
01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 1: our so many people because he was just you know,

1329
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:03,000
Speaker 1: he was just one of the guys, which he still

1330
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:04,360
Speaker 1: is one of the guys. He's got a kind of

1331
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:06,120
Speaker 1: you know, poor guy got to watch the ship now,

1332
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 1: you know, with everybody trying to pull down the guy

1333
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:10,599
Speaker 1: on top of the pole, you know, and and and

1334
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:13,479
Speaker 1: so everybody was just I mean, the golfer goes man,

1335
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 1: my brother got all he got. This guy named three

1336
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 1: deal deal and none of that. And then because you know,

1337
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 1: you had so many people route for him, and when

1338
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:23,640
Speaker 1: you got the time to kill I was on a

1339
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:27,640
Speaker 1: part three two hundred and one yard old, and I

1340
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 1: think I whipped it after that when after you told

1341
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:31,880
Speaker 1: me it, I was so excited when you told me

1342
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:33,720
Speaker 1: you got that deal. I mean it was it was

1343
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 1: uh when we had the old flip phone, but it

1344
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:39,800
Speaker 1: was we were I mean, it was we got to

1345
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 1: do it together, We got to do it together. Uh.

1346
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:45,360
Speaker 1: It was just you know, like I guess you know

1347
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:46,680
Speaker 1: it was you know, it was it was just a

1348
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:49,920
Speaker 1: storybook kind of deal. We got to do it, all

1349
01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:51,600
Speaker 1: of us got to like do it together. And it

1350
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:53,640
Speaker 1: was just so neat. We wished their dad would have

1351
01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 1: been there. Yeah, but if you tell you this and

1352
01:12:57,040 --> 01:12:59,719
Speaker 1: now you probably know it. But another cool thing about

1353
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:02,559
Speaker 1: why I love days and like lines that follow me.

1354
01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:06,559
Speaker 1: Five days into shooting, five days after that night, all right,

1355
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:10,599
Speaker 1: all right, all right, I get the call from Mom said,

1356
01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 1: your dad died. I go home. That's when Rooster and

1357
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 1: I come together, and after a few days they're like,

1358
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:20,439
Speaker 1: get your ass back. Dad would want you to go,

1359
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 1: finish the job. Get your ass back. Go. So I

1360
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 1: drove back from Houston and ended up working. And that

1361
01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 1: first night back was the night that I threw out

1362
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 1: the just keep living line in the football field because

1363
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:33,800
Speaker 1: I was thinking about how the deal with Dad's day.

1364
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 1: Oh god, so that movie he's been filled with you

1365
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 1: with this personal personal things, you know, I mean firsts

1366
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:45,200
Speaker 1: and lasts honestly, well, but that was time to kill, right.

1367
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 1: That was on days. Oh so so your dad didn't

1368
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:54,000
Speaker 1: even get to see any of your success, but he

1369
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 1: was alive five days. There was an overlap, and I

1370
01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:59,400
Speaker 1: always this is always giving me some peace of mind

1371
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:03,479
Speaker 1: before that time. You know, Dad, Dad, I need I really,

1372
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 1: I promise you'll really need the skateboard elbows and the

1373
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:08,439
Speaker 1: knee pads. And because I'm gonna really work out. I'm

1374
01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:10,439
Speaker 1: really going to be a skateboarder now you sure said, yeah,

1375
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 1: I promise you he'd buy them for me. I didn't

1376
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:15,559
Speaker 1: follow up on the skateboard and everything I like, I

1377
01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 1: like so listening to please help get me. We're just

1378
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 1: little hobbies that I forgot, never follow through them. So

1379
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he's a live five day overlap

1380
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:26,599
Speaker 1: for the thing that I started that became more than

1381
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 1: a hobby, became a career. So I always like he

1382
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 1: was alive when I started what I would find it.

1383
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:35,640
Speaker 1: He wanted him, he wanted him to get him in

1384
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:37,720
Speaker 1: a mentor like commercial back then when they had that

1385
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:42,600
Speaker 1: was good. I'm working with the athlete. Memory of the

1386
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:46,920
Speaker 1: men are like commercials. I tell you that that's that's great.

1387
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 1: To have a shack on the beach, and the bar

1388
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:52,559
Speaker 1: beach so oysters on the half shelled gumbo and middle

1389
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 1: light in the can. Yeah, gona something else? Did you

1390
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:58,599
Speaker 1: don't know what the bar beach you talking about? Theavar beach.

1391
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:02,559
Speaker 1: My oldest son who was cloking, his age five years different.

1392
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 1: He ran over this guy with a jet ski and

1393
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:09,639
Speaker 1: he has it. And I'm talking I had a car

1394
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 1: all the way, and you can always tell when you're

1395
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:21,800
Speaker 1: getting pictures that scar will get ridy rolling right over

1396
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:23,760
Speaker 1: and had to hold him up and drowning, and my

1397
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 1: dad running up down to be going. He sent up

1398
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:31,240
Speaker 1: a bitch, Madison. I told you stay away, stay away, idea.

1399
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:34,719
Speaker 1: That was a scar. So yeah, and check this out.

1400
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:37,599
Speaker 1: You know, it rains in Florida in the afternoon. They

1401
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:39,560
Speaker 1: pulled me out. I'm unconscious. They pulled me out of

1402
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 1: the water. I'm like, hey, everything's okay. We get in

1403
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:44,679
Speaker 1: the car. Dad starts driving down the highway. Those Florida

1404
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 1: monsoon comes and Dad's doing about ninety and I'm like,

1405
01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 1: what's going on. I'm stealing shock going, what's going on?

1406
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 1: It's it's not a big deal. And I reach up

1407
01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 1: to grab I kept I kept trying. I can't get

1408
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 1: the water out of my eyes. Water, but it was

1409
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:58,640
Speaker 1: blood and my eye was kind of sagging. And I

1410
01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:01,679
Speaker 1: reach up to the vandror to lower it to look.

1411
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 1: And when Dad reaches over, he goes and lowered and

1412
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:09,360
Speaker 1: and he did that. I went, must be so bad,

1413
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:11,600
Speaker 1: and I remember sort of crying. The lump goes up

1414
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:15,000
Speaker 1: my back my head. Five minutes later, he whips off

1415
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:18,920
Speaker 1: the highway into this little one story look look like

1416
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 1: a realtor shop. Goes in, carries me in. Show him up,

1417
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:28,120
Speaker 1: Show him up, you told me, got him show him

1418
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 1: up right now. It was a veterinarian o. God, my

1419
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:39,240
Speaker 1: old bored kind of bad. He knocked him out with

1420
01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:44,000
Speaker 1: the golf clb another time, kickboard. Yeah, man, take you

1421
01:16:44,240 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 1: in his career, you guys almost guys still play? You

1422
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:53,599
Speaker 1: guys still playing golf? I know, Matthew, do you still play?

1423
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 1: I don't make I don't make the time to do

1424
01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 1: it that much anymore. Yeah, we did that pretty steady though,

1425
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 1: getting together their Are you guys an emotional family? Just

1426
01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 1: in general? I mean, is everyone okay to cry around

1427
01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 1: each other and you know, even growing up and all that,

1428
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:12,880
Speaker 1: or is the whole emotions tight? I think we're pretty loose.

1429
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:15,639
Speaker 1: I think we're you know, we can be pretty loose.

1430
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 1: Sometimes you wait too long to get it out. You know,

1431
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:23,880
Speaker 1: we have a rule that especially after that. My mother said,

1432
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:27,840
Speaker 1: when our dad died, she sat us boys down. She said, listen,

1433
01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:30,559
Speaker 1: I'm tired of being the guy named third will because

1434
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 1: my dad and us boys would go and mom would

1435
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:36,200
Speaker 1: be you know, would kind of be left out, and

1436
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:38,639
Speaker 1: when dad died, she sat us down. She said, let

1437
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:40,720
Speaker 1: me tell y'all something. I want to be one of

1438
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:43,680
Speaker 1: the boys, and I want y'all to I don't want

1439
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 1: y'all holding nothing back nothing. I want to you talk

1440
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 1: to me like one of the boys, and I want

1441
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:50,720
Speaker 1: to be one of the boys. And people would go,

1442
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:52,840
Speaker 1: how can you talk to your brother that way? And go, Well,

1443
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:55,439
Speaker 1: she likes it, I said. She she doesn't want us

1444
01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 1: not to do that. And we have a deal with

1445
01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:02,120
Speaker 1: my wife that she just can't already, David, whatever we're

1446
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:04,000
Speaker 1: we're sitting around and drink and carry on, and we

1447
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:07,679
Speaker 1: get in some loud, loud arguments. I mean some I'm

1448
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:11,439
Speaker 1: talking about good that people were thinking everybody to get

1449
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:14,599
Speaker 1: over and get real loud. Yeah, And the next morning,

1450
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:18,600
Speaker 1: whatever it is when you're drinking, the next morning you

1451
01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:22,080
Speaker 1: got a clean slate. Boom, it's over. You walk in roll,

1452
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:24,080
Speaker 1: Hey man, how's it going. You don't you don't, you

1453
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 1: don't go back on it. Nobody not found they ever

1454
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:28,680
Speaker 1: held a grudge. That's the thing. You don't go like

1455
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:31,760
Speaker 1: you with with the roosting, you don't. It was, it

1456
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:33,800
Speaker 1: was over. You handle it that night, you get it

1457
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 1: out and if it may come, tears may fall. As

1458
01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 1: you wake up the morning, everyone's clean slate, and you

1459
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:40,840
Speaker 1: never bring it up on somebody and go like later

1460
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:43,840
Speaker 1: on you're not allowed to go. Well, remember that time

1461
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:46,160
Speaker 1: you did some uh that you will get a butt

1462
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:48,719
Speaker 1: whooping and bring it up on somebody that's actually a gree.

1463
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:51,000
Speaker 1: I like that. I like that. I like that a lot.

1464
01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:53,680
Speaker 1: So when you wrote Green Lights, you went out for

1465
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:59,080
Speaker 1: twenty two days no electricity, correct, fifty two total days

1466
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 1: fifty the first twelve. Yeah, the first one was a

1467
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 1: twelve day trip to a place with electricity, just me

1468
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 1: and me with the generator and a printer and all

1469
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:09,640
Speaker 1: my diaries. And that was just to go see what

1470
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:12,839
Speaker 1: the hell it was and what I had okay, wow,

1471
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:19,639
Speaker 1: And in that I found stories, people, places, prescriptions, poems, prayers,

1472
01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 1: and about two hundred and sixteen bumper stickers. Wow. And

1473
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 1: so and so, what what inspired you to write a book?

1474
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 1: I'd been daring to write, daring myself to write one

1475
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 1: for the past fifteen years, and just didn't have the

1476
01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:40,720
Speaker 1: courtige go do it. So I've been keeping all those diaries,

1477
01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 1: all those beercoasters and napkins and places I took notes

1478
01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:46,000
Speaker 1: over the past thirty five years. I've can keep them

1479
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:47,920
Speaker 1: in a treasure chest and always took it with me

1480
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:49,639
Speaker 1: and had it right next to my office, but always

1481
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:51,400
Speaker 1: look at it and be like, ah, maybe you know,

1482
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:54,040
Speaker 1: when I die, maybe Camilla or somebody will read to

1483
01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 1: that stuff, and ifing of it it's worthy to share,

1484
01:19:56,520 --> 01:19:58,559
Speaker 1: they'll share it. And then I was like, one day

1485
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:00,439
Speaker 1: I was looking in that damn tre as your chest

1486
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:02,599
Speaker 1: was barking at me and I had about two weeks

1487
01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 1: free time, and without even saying it, Camilla came out

1488
01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:07,920
Speaker 1: to me. She goes, yeah, you know what you gotta do.

1489
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:10,479
Speaker 1: Get the hell out of here. Take take the chest,

1490
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:12,880
Speaker 1: pack up your coogler and your food, get out of here.

1491
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:15,559
Speaker 1: Don't come back until you got something. And so the

1492
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:18,439
Speaker 1: next morning I headed out and like I said, we'll

1493
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:20,679
Speaker 1: not have to go find out what it was. And

1494
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:25,519
Speaker 1: where did you go? I went out to Fort Davis, Texas,

1495
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 1: where I was conceived, where after sixteen years I've tried,

1496
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:32,320
Speaker 1: I've tried darts, popped madge, something stick. I went out

1497
01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:37,880
Speaker 1: where I was conceived the first twelve days and then

1498
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:40,960
Speaker 1: after that did different ten eleven nine day trips, all

1499
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:43,320
Speaker 1: totally up to fifty two days. Did you go home

1500
01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:46,639
Speaker 1: in between? I would go back handle things in between,

1501
01:20:47,479 --> 01:20:49,559
Speaker 1: that's back up, and then you head out and have

1502
01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:53,080
Speaker 1: no internet, no nothing for tens. So the things that

1503
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 1: you would write, because this is fascinating to me, because

1504
01:20:56,200 --> 01:21:00,840
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not dissimilar in that way. The problem

1505
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:03,519
Speaker 1: is I just don't write it down. I have so

1506
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 1: many different thoughts in my mind that I wish that

1507
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 1: I had recorded Somehow right do you write when you

1508
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:12,320
Speaker 1: go through this chest? I mean, are there just thought

1509
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:17,120
Speaker 1: like moments, actual moments and then just thoughts and revelations

1510
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:21,480
Speaker 1: and what did this chest look like? There's moments, there's

1511
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:23,720
Speaker 1: one liners, there's when I say prescribes. There are like

1512
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:27,920
Speaker 1: things the wisdom that I've learned. There are lyrics which

1513
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:30,960
Speaker 1: are most like the bumperticuars. There are poems from nineteen

1514
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 1: eighty eight. There's prayers I've had, Like I said, there's

1515
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:35,280
Speaker 1: people I've crossed on those four years on the road

1516
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:39,040
Speaker 1: and trailer park stories. There's stories of like some we've

1517
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:41,719
Speaker 1: talked about today would sound like a red light moment

1518
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:46,040
Speaker 1: as a green light or were a red light moment?

1519
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 1: Dad passing? Why red light moment. But I'm it's very

1520
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:53,200
Speaker 1: clear to me now that I probably wouldn't be sitting

1521
01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 1: here if my dad didn't pass with him, because his

1522
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:57,479
Speaker 1: moving on took away the crutch of me relying on

1523
01:21:57,600 --> 01:22:01,080
Speaker 1: things that since he was alive moving on, I had

1524
01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:03,720
Speaker 1: to man up and activate those things that he was

1525
01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 1: teaching me because I didn't have that crunch of him anymore.

1526
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:08,800
Speaker 1: So that's a green light asset of his moving on,

1527
01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 1: and I just that's the central thing because so many

1528
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:13,920
Speaker 1: places where I was like, oh, this was so hard,

1529
01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:16,760
Speaker 1: it was obviously revealed that oh, as you said it

1530
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 1: a while ago, eight months of hell for you, you

1531
01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:22,720
Speaker 1: wouldn't give it back. Why because it was you got

1532
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:26,080
Speaker 1: inside right, You had that resistance time that you wouldn't

1533
01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:29,160
Speaker 1: give back. So I do believe that all of our

1534
01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 1: red and yellow lights in life, whether it's this light

1535
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 1: or the next, will eventually turn green. That's a great concept.

1536
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:38,960
Speaker 1: That's a really, really great concept. It's so fun for

1537
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:41,599
Speaker 1: me because like we've known each other a long time,

1538
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:44,680
Speaker 1: and even though we don't spend time together, like you know,

1539
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:49,040
Speaker 1: I was twenty how old was I twenty one? Twenty two?

1540
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:52,680
Speaker 1: And you're ten years older than me. I think. And

1541
01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 1: it's like, I mean, that was twenty almost twenty years ago,

1542
01:22:58,040 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 1: and from from where we were then to where we

1543
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 1: are now, there's been so much growth and like just

1544
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 1: even having this conversation with you and what did you

1545
01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:12,960
Speaker 1: did you guys ever have a situation? No? Come on

1546
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:24,800
Speaker 1: ever ever working together more ship to cut cut No,

1547
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:31,200
Speaker 1: we never we never thought even close. No, you're a yes, sir,

1548
01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:35,280
Speaker 1: I am. And I revel that he went through ship

1549
01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 1: when we were when we were doing How to Lose

1550
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:43,000
Speaker 1: a Guy. Everyone wants to know. I was with Chris

1551
01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 1: when we were doing How to Lose a Guy, and

1552
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:48,280
Speaker 1: then when we were doing Fools Gold he he was

1553
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:51,760
Speaker 1: with Camilla. And and that's actually she came out. That

1554
01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:54,559
Speaker 1: was the first trip out. Wasn't it the first trip

1555
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:57,880
Speaker 1: that she ever that I ever had someone with me

1556
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:01,639
Speaker 1: besides my dog on a set. Yeah, And and and

1557
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:06,200
Speaker 1: it was I mean for me, it was like, oh,

1558
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:08,600
Speaker 1: Matthew has a girl here. Like it was like this

1559
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:13,960
Speaker 1: is serious. You don't see that, you know. And and

1560
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 1: I remember I remember seeing her for the first time

1561
01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:18,760
Speaker 1: down that little street and she was wearing this hot,

1562
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:22,200
Speaker 1: little black tight dress. Do you remember that dress? I

1563
01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 1: remember it do you remember it? And we all went

1564
01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 1: out that night, we played pool and we got wasted,

1565
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:30,559
Speaker 1: and uh, it's actually really good. This is a good man.

1566
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 1: Well those there's so many, so many funny stories. We've

1567
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:38,840
Speaker 1: got a million, and actually it's so fun because I've

1568
01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:40,720
Speaker 1: been thinking about them, Like how about when you you

1569
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:43,439
Speaker 1: went to Papa New Guinea. We had like a break

1570
01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:45,960
Speaker 1: and and Matthew went out to Papa New Guinea, which,

1571
01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:48,080
Speaker 1: of course I was like, please don't get killed. Okay,

1572
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:50,439
Speaker 1: first of all, let's finish the movie. First of all,

1573
01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 1: we got to finish the movie. Second of all, he

1574
01:24:52,360 --> 01:24:54,880
Speaker 1: comes back. He's he'd taken up surfing, and he would

1575
01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:57,439
Speaker 1: been so you've been surfing a lot. And he came

1576
01:24:57,520 --> 01:25:01,760
Speaker 1: back with a scab down his back that you I mean,

1577
01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:05,680
Speaker 1: Oh but it wasn't. This wasn't a re This was

1578
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:08,240
Speaker 1: like a gash. It was like a gash the size

1579
01:25:08,240 --> 01:25:10,720
Speaker 1: of his eye. And the whole makeup department was like,

1580
01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 1: he's gotta have a shirt off like this whole movie.

1581
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:16,800
Speaker 1: You know. I was like, what are we gonna like,

1582
01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:21,360
Speaker 1: you know, like late Texas. Like he was like, but Matthew, Okay.

1583
01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:24,080
Speaker 1: So the first night, the first night, we all went out.

1584
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 1: We were out at the bar, and I talked to

1585
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:28,000
Speaker 1: Camille a little bit, and she was shy. You know,

1586
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:30,200
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, because there was no she was

1587
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:32,800
Speaker 1: just meeting us for the you know. Anyway, we all

1588
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:35,599
Speaker 1: had a little bit more to drink than you should.

1589
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:37,760
Speaker 1: And you know, we're in the middle, we're at the

1590
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:40,759
Speaker 1: edge of the world, and and all of a sudden,

1591
01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 1: Matthew gets up on a chair and he goes, everybody,

1592
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:49,240
Speaker 1: my lady can't find her purse. And the whole bar

1593
01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:53,760
Speaker 1: just do you remember this, Yeah, okay, somebody took her.

1594
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 1: Somebody took her purse. And we're sitting there and he he,

1595
01:25:57,360 --> 01:25:58,720
Speaker 1: I mean, he did it. It was a it was

1596
01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 1: a Matthew moment, like it was a whole monologue. And

1597
01:26:01,160 --> 01:26:03,599
Speaker 1: it was like declaring, like, this is my woman, and

1598
01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:05,880
Speaker 1: you're gonna give the purse back whoever has it, wherever

1599
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 1: it is. I'm not saying anybody took it, you know,

1600
01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 1: in Matthew's diplomacy. And this woman sitting next to me,

1601
01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:15,200
Speaker 1: the whole bar is quiet. She goes and he's literally

1602
01:26:15,240 --> 01:26:18,519
Speaker 1: on the bar and and she goes, is this it?

1603
01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:23,800
Speaker 1: And he goes, good woman, thank you very much. Like

1604
01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:26,160
Speaker 1: the whole bar just cauld do. I was like, Okay,

1605
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:30,040
Speaker 1: he's gonna be with this girl for a while. But yeah,

1606
01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:33,280
Speaker 1: I mean that's why I know we never never well

1607
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:35,080
Speaker 1: before we before we go going out. Just I want

1608
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:38,120
Speaker 1: to your guys take on sort of spirituality. I guess

1609
01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:43,160
Speaker 1: you know because you have are you? Are you guys religious?

1610
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:45,640
Speaker 1: Is there a spirituality that you sort of partake in?

1611
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:50,040
Speaker 1: You know? Is it just the human condition? Where are

1612
01:26:50,040 --> 01:26:53,400
Speaker 1: you guys at? I'm a I'm a Bertie. I'm yeah

1613
01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:56,680
Speaker 1: good old man. And this boy, yeah, you know we

1614
01:26:56,680 --> 01:27:00,160
Speaker 1: we like everybody, you know, you know, he's find pretty easy.

1615
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:02,920
Speaker 1: I all. We recommend people that if they want to

1616
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:06,920
Speaker 1: learn anything about the Bible, I would start with I like,

1617
01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:09,479
Speaker 1: I learned more reading the children's Bible. I did. I

1618
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:13,040
Speaker 1: read the Bible one and a half times and and

1619
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:16,920
Speaker 1: and uh. But I always I say, read the children's Bible.

1620
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:20,240
Speaker 1: Just give you the basics. Don't overthink the religion. You know,

1621
01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:21,880
Speaker 1: and you want to believe, you know, if you don't

1622
01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:23,479
Speaker 1: want to believe and the ship, don't read your son

1623
01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:25,479
Speaker 1: of a bit. But if you want to believe, then

1624
01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:27,000
Speaker 1: give it a break, you know, because I mean it

1625
01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:29,280
Speaker 1: is good contradict itself. But I mean, I'm just saying

1626
01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 1: you want to believe, then you want to believe, you know,

1627
01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:35,800
Speaker 1: and I may when come and I see an eight this,

1628
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:38,559
Speaker 1: I go, well, you know what, I hope there's more

1629
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:40,559
Speaker 1: of it because that will give me a better chance

1630
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:45,519
Speaker 1: of getting in there. So many of them gonna make

1631
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:48,760
Speaker 1: it as a god keep promoting that ship, macause I

1632
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:50,920
Speaker 1: ain't all like good. I ain't gonna be first choice,

1633
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:52,600
Speaker 1: you know, but I sure wouldn't mind being one of

1634
01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:58,600
Speaker 1: the last ones to get in. And what about you myself?

1635
01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:02,040
Speaker 1: Is you know the traveler, the traveler I've done and

1636
01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:06,600
Speaker 1: people I've I've met, I'm definitely uh uh. You know,

1637
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:10,360
Speaker 1: we were raised Methodist Christian, But I am not at

1638
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:15,400
Speaker 1: the exclusion of another path, uh to where it is

1639
01:28:15,439 --> 01:28:17,519
Speaker 1: that we we may or may not be going. Nor

1640
01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:19,920
Speaker 1: am I errant enough to say that I know that

1641
01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:23,960
Speaker 1: there is a place I would say more of an

1642
01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:27,600
Speaker 1: optimistic mystic I've I've spent my time as an agnostic

1643
01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:30,160
Speaker 1: as well, which was also very good for me, because

1644
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:33,960
Speaker 1: if anything, it wasn't because I quit believing it was

1645
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:36,800
Speaker 1: that as an from the agnostic point of view, I

1646
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:40,599
Speaker 1: needed to be more, take more responsibility for my own

1647
01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:43,760
Speaker 1: self determination. I was letting myself slide too much at times.

1648
01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:45,800
Speaker 1: I need to put my You never told mother that.

1649
01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:49,360
Speaker 1: You never told mother that until mom and that I

1650
01:28:49,360 --> 01:28:52,320
Speaker 1: think she know. I mean, well, like I said, I

1651
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:55,000
Speaker 1: didn't quit believing during those times, but I did take

1652
01:28:55,040 --> 01:28:58,000
Speaker 1: some time off to go. Okay, if you don't have

1653
01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:01,920
Speaker 1: if there you know, if you don't have that crutch

1654
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:04,200
Speaker 1: or you don't have that possibility, what are you doing

1655
01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:07,080
Speaker 1: about it right now? While with your hands on the wheel,

1656
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:11,920
Speaker 1: And to me that that pleased God that I took

1657
01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:15,360
Speaker 1: the time off to go, I gotta put my hands

1658
01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:18,040
Speaker 1: on the wheel, make sure I'm being responsible for myself

1659
01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:20,639
Speaker 1: and not just believing in the fate of it all.

1660
01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:29,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, optimistic mystic is yeah, turn into a nather greenlight.

1661
01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:33,439
Speaker 1: That's right. That's right. And then before we do a

1662
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 1: quick speed round, I just want to talk about JK.

1663
01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:38,360
Speaker 1: Livin just because you've been you've been out in this

1664
01:29:38,439 --> 01:29:40,960
Speaker 1: a long time and you're so passionate about it. Let's

1665
01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:42,760
Speaker 1: talk about the foundation a little bit and what you're

1666
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:45,479
Speaker 1: sort of doing right now with it. Yep. So we

1667
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:48,439
Speaker 1: have the school foundation in title on High schools. These

1668
01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:50,519
Speaker 1: are the schools that are fifty percent drop out rates

1669
01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:55,599
Speaker 1: lower income areas. Most all the young men and women

1670
01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:59,559
Speaker 1: are on the food program at the school. We're giving

1671
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:01,519
Speaker 1: them a say, place to go after school twice a

1672
01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:05,160
Speaker 1: week where they they make an exercise goal, which may be, Hey,

1673
01:30:05,200 --> 01:30:06,960
Speaker 1: I can't even run half a mile, but I want

1674
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:08,479
Speaker 1: to make the soccer team. All right, We're going to

1675
01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:10,559
Speaker 1: help you get in shape. En, if we can make

1676
01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:12,200
Speaker 1: the soccery. Another girl may come home and go, I

1677
01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:13,920
Speaker 1: need to lose three pounds in the next two months.

1678
01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:15,640
Speaker 1: I can fit my prom dress. All right, We're going

1679
01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:17,040
Speaker 1: to help you lose three pounds. You can fit a

1680
01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:22,000
Speaker 1: prom dress. Nutrition wise, Hey, your mom bought five burgers

1681
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:24,080
Speaker 1: last night and fries for forty bucks. We're going to

1682
01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:26,840
Speaker 1: take you to the supermarket with forty bucks, show you

1683
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:29,000
Speaker 1: how you can purchase a healthier meal, and you get

1684
01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:32,599
Speaker 1: to go home and cook it together. Third one's community service.

1685
01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:36,280
Speaker 1: They have to give community service within their area. And

1686
01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:40,000
Speaker 1: the final halo over the whole foundation's gratitude and the

1687
01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:41,560
Speaker 1: kids all sit around, and this is kind of the

1688
01:30:41,560 --> 01:30:43,400
Speaker 1: coolest part of it. They all sit around and say

1689
01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:46,800
Speaker 1: one thing they're thankful for as we've done many times,

1690
01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:49,719
Speaker 1: kate before dinner and stuff, say something you're thankful because

1691
01:30:49,760 --> 01:30:51,360
Speaker 1: we believe that if you think the more you're thankful for,

1692
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:52,720
Speaker 1: the more you're going to create in your life to

1693
01:30:52,840 --> 01:30:55,799
Speaker 1: be thankful for. And we are in thirty nine schools

1694
01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:59,160
Speaker 1: in the United States. I think about just over ten cities,

1695
01:31:00,680 --> 01:31:03,880
Speaker 1: and uh, so far it's it's it's it's working and

1696
01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:06,360
Speaker 1: we're trying to fulfill a need. Well we can. That's great,

1697
01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:08,920
Speaker 1: so great. Do you have a gratitude practice with you?

1698
01:31:09,120 --> 01:31:12,120
Speaker 1: Do you do? Do you practice gratitude? Does it? We do?

1699
01:31:12,479 --> 01:31:14,680
Speaker 1: We do it before meals, just everyone whold friends and

1700
01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:17,559
Speaker 1: say it, say it thank you for something, And you know,

1701
01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:20,160
Speaker 1: you know how that is very at the very least,

1702
01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:22,880
Speaker 1: it makes the food taste better. Yeah, and it's fun

1703
01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:25,280
Speaker 1: to hear what the taste to be sure I'm gonna

1704
01:31:25,320 --> 01:31:28,320
Speaker 1: thank for well you know what else. It Also you

1705
01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:30,720
Speaker 1: realize that when you don't do it, because you may

1706
01:31:30,800 --> 01:31:33,400
Speaker 1: sometimes you get busy and you're like you forget or something.

1707
01:31:33,479 --> 01:31:35,559
Speaker 1: The kids are always the ones that are like, we

1708
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:40,320
Speaker 1: didn't do that. Yeah, because and you know that he's

1709
01:31:40,360 --> 01:31:45,320
Speaker 1: got a podcast called The cow Roosters really really like

1710
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:49,000
Speaker 1: it's just John Ericson. This guy in West Texas wrote

1711
01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:52,519
Speaker 1: these uh children books years ago, and Jeff Nichols, who

1712
01:31:52,520 --> 01:31:54,519
Speaker 1: directed Mud, came to me about five months ago and

1713
01:31:54,520 --> 01:31:56,679
Speaker 1: he's like, I've got the rights to these stories. And

1714
01:31:56,720 --> 01:32:00,360
Speaker 1: it's got this lead dog on the ranch who and

1715
01:32:00,479 --> 01:32:02,559
Speaker 1: when he's Hank and he sort of figures out these

1716
01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:05,400
Speaker 1: mysteries on the ranch and stuff, and they're going through

1717
01:32:05,560 --> 01:32:09,519
Speaker 1: schools as educational tools for for teaching these values to kids.

1718
01:32:09,880 --> 01:32:12,439
Speaker 1: And so our second episode just came out on on Apple.

1719
01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:17,559
Speaker 1: On the audience, he's Hank, He's Hank, He's Hank. What's

1720
01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:25,160
Speaker 1: it called again? What's this is the since Corona started

1721
01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:29,000
Speaker 1: the podcast, it's podcast Mania. I've got one called just

1722
01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:39,200
Speaker 1: Bullshit with Richterard, but I'm tuning into that one. Just

1723
01:32:40,400 --> 01:32:43,000
Speaker 1: ninety percent everything you worry about. If you've known this

1724
01:32:43,200 --> 01:32:45,240
Speaker 1: for those day years you went through, you realize that

1725
01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:51,360
Speaker 1: ninety percent everything we're all freaking out about is just bullshit. Bullshit.

1726
01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:54,559
Speaker 1: Of course, if you didn't know that, I've always believed that.

1727
01:32:54,880 --> 01:32:57,080
Speaker 1: You gotta remember I could have helped you. That's right. Well,

1728
01:32:57,760 --> 01:33:03,920
Speaker 1: it took a while the other day and he's talking,

1729
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:06,360
Speaker 1: we're talking about COVID, right and all these Hey, you

1730
01:33:06,360 --> 01:33:08,439
Speaker 1: can go back to work, and we should and we

1731
01:33:08,439 --> 01:33:10,639
Speaker 1: shouldn't blah blah blah blah, he writes in this note,

1732
01:33:10,640 --> 01:33:13,040
Speaker 1: and I kept this for this came in. Uh. I

1733
01:33:13,040 --> 01:33:15,200
Speaker 1: don't know a couple weeks ago. Who is leading the

1734
01:33:15,200 --> 01:33:18,479
Speaker 1: country today. I'm not sure. I mean, for instance, take

1735
01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:21,960
Speaker 1: school reopening. The president passes it to the governor. The

1736
01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:24,240
Speaker 1: governor passes it to the mayor, who passes it to

1737
01:33:24,280 --> 01:33:26,519
Speaker 1: the school board, who passes it to the parents who

1738
01:33:26,640 --> 01:33:28,759
Speaker 1: asked their children if they want to go to school.

1739
01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:36,840
Speaker 1: I'm confused, by the way, so that should be I

1740
01:33:36,880 --> 01:33:41,240
Speaker 1: want that. I'm gonna I'm going to quote that. Oh

1741
01:33:41,320 --> 01:33:45,160
Speaker 1: my god, all right, quick speed round ready. One word,

1742
01:33:45,439 --> 01:33:51,360
Speaker 1: one word to describe the other. Resilient. That's why I

1743
01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:57,840
Speaker 1: describe rue, no, I describe you's pretty cool. He is

1744
01:33:57,920 --> 01:33:59,960
Speaker 1: pretty cool. That makes it pretty cool. I got it.

1745
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:04,080
Speaker 1: Say that. It is one word to describe your relationship.

1746
01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:08,800
Speaker 1: It's it's a pretty connected connected. We don't have to talk.

1747
01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:10,720
Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't do one word, but we

1748
01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:12,599
Speaker 1: have to talk to each other every day. I love

1749
01:34:12,640 --> 01:34:15,720
Speaker 1: that it is. It is connected. That's true. And we

1750
01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:17,200
Speaker 1: don't have to. We don't have to. It can go

1751
01:34:17,280 --> 01:34:18,960
Speaker 1: it can be months. It's never really months, but it

1752
01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:20,880
Speaker 1: can be months. And we pick right back up, and

1753
01:34:20,920 --> 01:34:24,320
Speaker 1: we know that there ain't no ulterior motive in the

1754
01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:28,040
Speaker 1: universe between us. Yeah, no, I love it. Just pick right,

1755
01:34:28,120 --> 01:34:30,519
Speaker 1: pick right up wherever you left. If your brother was

1756
01:34:30,520 --> 01:34:37,960
Speaker 1: an animal, that's a good one. Badger may Yeah you're

1757
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:43,120
Speaker 1: a badger. Yeah, you're a humming bird. They moved right left.

1758
01:34:43,160 --> 01:34:50,080
Speaker 1: That's that's my bird. I'm a humming bird. That's my animal. Yeah,

1759
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:56,600
Speaker 1: his feet at all, goddamn, go forward back to you

1760
01:34:56,720 --> 01:34:59,559
Speaker 1: don't ever catch you. Yeah, but you know what's so

1761
01:34:59,680 --> 01:35:02,719
Speaker 1: amzing about that the humming bird, even when it's moving,

1762
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:10,080
Speaker 1: can be as still as anything else. Right at all?

1763
01:35:12,200 --> 01:35:14,880
Speaker 1: The guys own it. You guys fight at all? I mean,

1764
01:35:15,080 --> 01:35:18,120
Speaker 1: is it pretty just a pretty you know, even relationship.

1765
01:35:18,600 --> 01:35:22,439
Speaker 1: Is there ever fights or arguments? We have to stand

1766
01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:27,680
Speaker 1: down and ship? Yeah? Well uh well look remember we

1767
01:35:27,680 --> 01:35:30,479
Speaker 1: were spread out enough where we didn't really Yeah, I

1768
01:35:31,720 --> 01:35:38,080
Speaker 1: still had my bluff man. They didn't pull over. We

1769
01:35:38,080 --> 01:35:40,720
Speaker 1: we we get there's some there's some wrestling matches that

1770
01:35:40,720 --> 01:35:43,479
Speaker 1: that that happened, and and then and he's got a pain,

1771
01:35:43,560 --> 01:35:47,519
Speaker 1: threshold of it. Back this guy and then he deals.

1772
01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:49,280
Speaker 1: I'll have him in a good juggle. But he gets

1773
01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:54,360
Speaker 1: that pinky going back, going back, going back. I don't

1774
01:35:54,400 --> 01:35:58,880
Speaker 1: know me before he does. Oh no, he he'll let him.

1775
01:35:58,920 --> 01:36:00,920
Speaker 1: You his on the gas up? Did he running around

1776
01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:03,280
Speaker 1: trying to do it? And I'm just wait, wait, wait,

1777
01:36:03,560 --> 01:36:06,519
Speaker 1: and all he knows how dow it choke? This is

1778
01:36:07,080 --> 01:36:10,120
Speaker 1: jiu jitsu. Now you get the choke hold. It's always

1779
01:36:10,160 --> 01:36:12,320
Speaker 1: a choke. Get they got to get hold of it choking.

1780
01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:15,320
Speaker 1: Trust me. I see him in action at the at

1781
01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:19,000
Speaker 1: the El Dorado member guest in the ring where he

1782
01:36:19,520 --> 01:36:21,760
Speaker 1: choked out this little dude. I was like, oh, ship,

1783
01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:26,320
Speaker 1: he gave die. This little kid might die, called in

1784
01:36:26,360 --> 01:36:28,280
Speaker 1: the ring, got called in the ring down there this

1785
01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:31,920
Speaker 1: called and uh he held his own for sure. Matthew,

1786
01:36:32,680 --> 01:36:35,559
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he'll get that. He'll get that old

1787
01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:39,040
Speaker 1: red line and get all red. Here he comes at you,

1788
01:36:39,680 --> 01:36:41,760
Speaker 1: but he'll go after Pat Pattill just pick up a

1789
01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:44,200
Speaker 1: namned old golf claim and start swinging that way. Get

1790
01:36:44,240 --> 01:36:46,599
Speaker 1: away from me, Pat, don't go there and get done you. Matthew,

1791
01:36:47,560 --> 01:36:50,160
Speaker 1: who's more laid back sick. I'm getting a little too

1792
01:36:50,200 --> 01:36:55,480
Speaker 1: tired of it. Yeah, Okay, who's more laid back? Probably you.

1793
01:36:56,240 --> 01:37:01,080
Speaker 1: Everyone thinks the boys know you're pretty even keel. I'd

1794
01:37:01,120 --> 01:37:05,479
Speaker 1: say you're extremely even keel. I'm pretty intense on things.

1795
01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:10,880
Speaker 1: Well that some people you know that go. I think

1796
01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:16,720
Speaker 1: I'm always laid back. That's about my think. I mean,

1797
01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:19,519
Speaker 1: I've had moments where I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna sit

1798
01:37:19,600 --> 01:37:26,639
Speaker 1: down for a second. Matthew is uh is h Matthew

1799
01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:32,519
Speaker 1: is generally and I'm stonewall jack my god, right right,

1800
01:37:32,600 --> 01:37:36,240
Speaker 1: he's gonna plant, He's gonna he's gonna he's gonna oversee

1801
01:37:36,240 --> 01:37:38,320
Speaker 1: it where I where I'm not. You know, if we're

1802
01:37:38,360 --> 01:37:40,519
Speaker 1: getting attacked, you might want me or I'm gonna make

1803
01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:42,200
Speaker 1: a move. He makes that. Hold on a minute. We

1804
01:37:42,280 --> 01:37:44,759
Speaker 1: got to figure out our ship. So I would assume

1805
01:37:45,560 --> 01:37:47,880
Speaker 1: that from what I'm hearing, that Rooster is probably a

1806
01:37:47,920 --> 01:37:51,880
Speaker 1: little bit more of the like you know, I would say,

1807
01:37:51,880 --> 01:37:56,800
Speaker 1: probably more laid back. I think he's more even even keel.

1808
01:37:56,840 --> 01:37:58,839
Speaker 1: While like he said, well, I'm back trying to measure

1809
01:37:59,200 --> 01:38:03,600
Speaker 1: the architecture, the overall situation here. Rooster has already you know,

1810
01:38:03,720 --> 01:38:05,760
Speaker 1: got it, got his head down the porch. Pine hole,

1811
01:38:06,040 --> 01:38:09,160
Speaker 1: trying to bite that thing and pull it out. Decynthitized

1812
01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:12,200
Speaker 1: and yeah, trying to defuse everything or whatever. Yeah. Would

1813
01:38:12,200 --> 01:38:14,639
Speaker 1: you rather live in the future or or the past?

1814
01:38:14,680 --> 01:38:16,240
Speaker 1: If you could not live in the present, I mean,

1815
01:38:16,280 --> 01:38:17,720
Speaker 1: where would you want to be? Would you allowed to

1816
01:38:17,760 --> 01:38:20,439
Speaker 1: be in like the future? Get some more brand new stuff? Yeah,

1817
01:38:22,280 --> 01:38:24,800
Speaker 1: hicky chicks, you know, I mean, God damn, I can

1818
01:38:24,840 --> 01:38:32,759
Speaker 1: knock a few years. First celebrity crush mim was Lisa Bonnet,

1819
01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:37,720
Speaker 1: Angel Heart. Oh yeah, oh man, I don't know what

1820
01:38:37,760 --> 01:38:44,599
Speaker 1: the deal is, say reading mcintock, Goldie, hou you got

1821
01:38:44,600 --> 01:38:46,559
Speaker 1: a little old kind of hate it when he looked

1822
01:38:46,600 --> 01:38:53,880
Speaker 1: at me. Funny, look you look that night? All right?

1823
01:38:53,960 --> 01:39:01,040
Speaker 1: Go to drink Miller like a yeah, tequila? Uh, tequila

1824
01:39:01,160 --> 01:39:05,160
Speaker 1: in that long branch bourbon. Yeah, oh yeah, of course,

1825
01:39:05,360 --> 01:39:08,360
Speaker 1: of course you're bourbon. I don't do a lot of

1826
01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:11,680
Speaker 1: whiskey because my words get out in front of me,

1827
01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:15,599
Speaker 1: then I'm following, you know, did I just say that, bitch?

1828
01:39:16,040 --> 01:39:17,920
Speaker 1: I always say if I have too much whiskey, I'm

1829
01:39:17,960 --> 01:39:20,559
Speaker 1: either gonna get naked or gonna get in a bad fight.

1830
01:39:21,360 --> 01:39:24,080
Speaker 1: It's gonna be one or the other. It's never down

1831
01:39:24,160 --> 01:39:30,240
Speaker 1: the middle or a bad fight naked really good night, brewster.

1832
01:39:30,320 --> 01:39:34,080
Speaker 1: What's beers drunk and a whiskey drunk? When a beer drunk,

1833
01:39:34,120 --> 01:39:35,720
Speaker 1: you know, you can kind of. I mean the thing

1834
01:39:35,840 --> 01:39:38,040
Speaker 1: that beer is an honest drink because you got to

1835
01:39:38,360 --> 01:39:40,880
Speaker 1: get to stop to peel a lot, you know. I mean,

1836
01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:44,200
Speaker 1: you get full, you know, and if you eat, you're done,

1837
01:39:44,600 --> 01:39:47,320
Speaker 1: you know. With whiskey ships a bit, man, you just

1838
01:39:47,439 --> 01:39:49,120
Speaker 1: keep it going, you know, and get and it gets

1839
01:39:49,360 --> 01:39:51,719
Speaker 1: and I drink it. I drink everything of the same feet.

1840
01:39:52,560 --> 01:39:55,680
Speaker 1: So the whiskey, I'm a little I used drink two

1841
01:39:55,720 --> 01:39:59,680
Speaker 1: battle Scotch today. Back in the day. I quit when

1842
01:39:59,680 --> 01:40:01,240
Speaker 1: I was a thirty Yeah, I mean I figured I

1843
01:40:01,280 --> 01:40:03,240
Speaker 1: want I wanted to drink every day for the rest

1844
01:40:03,280 --> 01:40:05,479
Speaker 1: of my life. Instead I have to quit me. I

1845
01:40:05,600 --> 01:40:08,240
Speaker 1: threw it down when I was thirty years old, that cigarette.

1846
01:40:09,520 --> 01:40:13,639
Speaker 1: I feel like beer. There's got to be a punchline, though, Matthew,

1847
01:40:13,680 --> 01:40:16,240
Speaker 1: were you going for a punchline? Yeah? I'm looking for

1848
01:40:16,360 --> 01:40:21,320
Speaker 1: his real quote because he has and it's much more. Uh.

1849
01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:29,599
Speaker 1: I was forced to see I can't remember what I say.

1850
01:40:29,960 --> 01:40:32,120
Speaker 1: Remember you said it with beer drunk? You know, you

1851
01:40:32,240 --> 01:40:34,840
Speaker 1: know you see trouble coming da Da dae and you

1852
01:40:34,920 --> 01:40:36,600
Speaker 1: can at least decide before you get in it. But

1853
01:40:37,560 --> 01:40:39,960
Speaker 1: you don't know what you're in trouble until tomorrow. The

1854
01:40:40,040 --> 01:40:45,000
Speaker 1: whisk you drunk, I mean, I'm saying your your your actions,

1855
01:40:45,040 --> 01:40:48,240
Speaker 1: in your in your your your speech, get out ahead

1856
01:40:48,240 --> 01:40:49,960
Speaker 1: of you and you're look, you're actually sit back in

1857
01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:52,240
Speaker 1: yoursrve going did I really say that? Or did I

1858
01:40:52,320 --> 01:40:54,720
Speaker 1: really do that? You know? And then with beer, you

1859
01:40:54,760 --> 01:40:57,920
Speaker 1: know you can catch yourself a little quicker, you know. Okay,

1860
01:40:58,160 --> 01:41:00,919
Speaker 1: if you guys were to cast someone other than yourself

1861
01:41:01,000 --> 01:41:03,720
Speaker 1: in your movie your life story, I already know who

1862
01:41:03,800 --> 01:41:07,280
Speaker 1: Rooster is to I mean, like Woody Harrelson, I just

1863
01:41:07,360 --> 01:41:11,840
Speaker 1: would cast what he as, Rooster, but Rooster. Who would

1864
01:41:11,920 --> 01:41:18,679
Speaker 1: you cast Matthew as in his life story? Aside from himself?

1865
01:41:20,960 --> 01:41:27,400
Speaker 1: Brad Pitt or Lee are Our Cappuccino, Leon Leonardo Cappuccino,

1866
01:41:28,360 --> 01:41:40,760
Speaker 1: Leo Leon Leon Cappuccino, the Mala prout wonderful? Who would

1867
01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:44,040
Speaker 1: you cast your brother? Leon Cappuccino. That's gonna be my

1868
01:41:44,120 --> 01:41:47,120
Speaker 1: new stage name. Who would I? Who would I cast?

1869
01:41:47,160 --> 01:41:53,639
Speaker 1: Blay Rooster? What's his name? Ken Casey King, Casey Casey?

1870
01:41:54,560 --> 01:41:57,439
Speaker 1: That'll work? So our final question we always end is

1871
01:41:57,920 --> 01:42:01,200
Speaker 1: so if you were It is a two part question.

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01:42:01,800 --> 01:42:05,160
Speaker 1: The first part is if there's something that you would

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01:42:05,200 --> 01:42:08,879
Speaker 1: want to take or emulate from your brother, a quality,

1874
01:42:08,920 --> 01:42:11,960
Speaker 1: a characteristic what would that be? And the other part

1875
01:42:12,080 --> 01:42:16,080
Speaker 1: is if there's something you could relieve a stressor or

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01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:21,280
Speaker 1: alleviate from your brother that you feel would sort of

1877
01:42:21,400 --> 01:42:24,680
Speaker 1: give them some ease in their life? What would that be?

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01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:27,640
Speaker 1: What I wish you could take from you? Man? Is

1879
01:42:27,720 --> 01:42:32,000
Speaker 1: you got incredible common sense? I got some, But man,

1880
01:42:32,040 --> 01:42:34,160
Speaker 1: you can suss up a situation and base it that

1881
01:42:34,320 --> 01:42:37,800
Speaker 1: baseline a human situation better than anybody I've ever met.

1882
01:42:37,800 --> 01:42:41,439
Speaker 1: I've seen you defuse things that were absolutely about to explode,

1883
01:42:41,479 --> 01:42:44,599
Speaker 1: and I have no idea how you wrangled the entire

1884
01:42:44,680 --> 01:42:48,800
Speaker 1: situation and made sense of it to everybody. What I

1885
01:42:49,120 --> 01:42:53,800
Speaker 1: for you to distress? Just you and Mom both. You

1886
01:42:53,880 --> 01:42:56,280
Speaker 1: know you got that quality that if the Dalai Lama

1887
01:42:56,400 --> 01:42:58,479
Speaker 1: invites you over to a private dinner for four for

1888
01:42:58,600 --> 01:43:01,000
Speaker 1: his one hundredth birthday, you and mom or damn convinced

1889
01:43:01,000 --> 01:43:09,400
Speaker 1: that cakes for you and that you better and that

1890
01:43:09,520 --> 01:43:11,360
Speaker 1: you have to be on that night and you have

1891
01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:16,960
Speaker 1: to perform that night. Oh my god, you're bringing me

1892
01:43:17,080 --> 01:43:20,639
Speaker 1: back to premieres with your mom. You know the one

1893
01:43:20,680 --> 01:43:22,439
Speaker 1: thing I remember the first time with your mom at

1894
01:43:22,439 --> 01:43:25,720
Speaker 1: a premiere. She was so proud, but it was it

1895
01:43:25,880 --> 01:43:29,160
Speaker 1: was Mama's show, remember, I mean, I remember, Oh yeah,

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01:43:29,479 --> 01:43:32,000
Speaker 1: my Mom's got one answer for me for all fifty

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01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:35,439
Speaker 1: four movies I've ever done after she sees them. Right. Good,

1898
01:43:35,960 --> 01:43:39,000
Speaker 1: thanks Mom. Yep, yep. Once again, I know where you

1899
01:43:39,040 --> 01:43:44,720
Speaker 1: got it from. U. No, that's exactly right, all right, Ruth,

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01:43:44,800 --> 01:43:50,040
Speaker 1: What about you? For Matthew, he really had discipline. You know,

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01:43:50,240 --> 01:43:53,439
Speaker 1: he can stay, he had I watched him, I watched

1902
01:43:53,479 --> 01:43:57,160
Speaker 1: him operate, he has, he has discipline, you know, it's

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01:43:57,200 --> 01:44:00,960
Speaker 1: it's just his his presentation and his discipline. And I'm like,

1904
01:44:01,960 --> 01:44:04,320
Speaker 1: he's a cool dude, man. I mean, I mean the

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01:44:04,400 --> 01:44:06,559
Speaker 1: guy just kind of you know, regardless of what's going

1906
01:44:06,640 --> 01:44:09,479
Speaker 1: right ahead of his I mean, the guys is always uh.

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01:44:09,880 --> 01:44:12,000
Speaker 1: I think it's discipline. I kind of I admire that.

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01:44:12,560 --> 01:44:15,240
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't have that as much as he

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01:44:15,400 --> 01:44:19,320
Speaker 1: has it. So I've always respected that Matthew's got, you know,

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01:44:19,840 --> 01:44:22,800
Speaker 1: you know where he is. What stress would you take

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01:44:22,840 --> 01:44:25,280
Speaker 1: from my life? Take from it if you could remove it,

1912
01:44:28,120 --> 01:44:30,479
Speaker 1: the total stress that I would take on you. I

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01:44:30,520 --> 01:44:32,920
Speaker 1: don't know what. Let me tell you, no, no, let

1914
01:44:32,960 --> 01:44:34,360
Speaker 1: me tell you. Let me. Let me just tell you.

1915
01:44:34,800 --> 01:44:38,880
Speaker 1: And I told you this, man, if we could get

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01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:41,960
Speaker 1: rid of these fucking cell phones and you could be

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01:44:42,160 --> 01:44:48,240
Speaker 1: your god damn self in public power, that's what I

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01:44:48,479 --> 01:44:52,720
Speaker 1: wish to God for you. That is what that is

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01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:56,719
Speaker 1: what I feel so bad for you is in fucking

1920
01:44:56,800 --> 01:44:59,200
Speaker 1: God damn set up cell phone and ship and what

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01:44:59,360 --> 01:45:02,200
Speaker 1: they can do with today is horrible. I just feel

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01:45:02,320 --> 01:45:04,439
Speaker 1: so sorry for you because I know how much of

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01:45:04,520 --> 01:45:07,160
Speaker 1: a people's person you can be and what you want

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01:45:07,200 --> 01:45:11,400
Speaker 1: to do, and yet you gotta worry about somebody fucking

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01:45:11,479 --> 01:45:14,000
Speaker 1: taking into the city. You know what I'm talking about,

1926
01:45:14,160 --> 01:45:17,120
Speaker 1: ye self? If I could get if we could get

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01:45:17,240 --> 01:45:19,720
Speaker 1: rid of cell phone from your goddamn life, because you

1928
01:45:19,840 --> 01:45:22,360
Speaker 1: got so many people that just want to People make

1929
01:45:22,479 --> 01:45:26,680
Speaker 1: so much money on negativity. Negativity is so much more

1930
01:45:26,760 --> 01:45:31,000
Speaker 1: fun to talk about the positivity the people which to us, man,

1931
01:45:31,040 --> 01:45:33,360
Speaker 1: we love to talk about somebody hitting the fucking home run.

1932
01:45:33,760 --> 01:45:35,519
Speaker 1: We don't want to talk about that so much, striking

1933
01:45:35,560 --> 01:45:37,840
Speaker 1: out a sliding and breaking its fucking leg, you know.

1934
01:45:37,960 --> 01:45:40,519
Speaker 1: And but a lot of people like negativity and that

1935
01:45:40,720 --> 01:45:43,000
Speaker 1: the shell phone has been a bad, bad deal. I

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01:45:43,080 --> 01:45:45,960
Speaker 1: love that. That's great. I'd love to see my little

1937
01:45:46,000 --> 01:45:49,000
Speaker 1: brother be able to walk down and god damn street,

1938
01:45:49,040 --> 01:45:50,640
Speaker 1: ex give me, I'm crying quick cussing. I call it

1939
01:45:50,800 --> 01:45:54,120
Speaker 1: cod c odm. I'm cutting a fish coddamn street and

1940
01:45:54,240 --> 01:45:57,760
Speaker 1: be able to relax and being self and not have

1941
01:45:57,880 --> 01:46:01,160
Speaker 1: to worry about it. It's so great. That's so great.

1942
01:46:01,240 --> 01:46:03,600
Speaker 1: Rooster you guys, thank you. I want to add to

1943
01:46:03,680 --> 01:46:06,120
Speaker 1: that because you know, Matthew, that's such a great thing.

1944
01:46:06,200 --> 01:46:09,960
Speaker 1: Because Matthew has a quality that like anyone who knows

1945
01:46:10,040 --> 01:46:12,320
Speaker 1: them or has worked with them, that he there's things

1946
01:46:12,360 --> 01:46:14,439
Speaker 1: that you do that sort of release your energy and

1947
01:46:14,479 --> 01:46:19,080
Speaker 1: they're almost like spiritual, like Matthew when he wants to dance,

1948
01:46:19,600 --> 01:46:24,120
Speaker 1: like you've never seen anybody express themselves when they're dancing

1949
01:46:24,320 --> 01:46:28,000
Speaker 1: like more honestly, And you're in it and it's just

1950
01:46:28,479 --> 01:46:31,080
Speaker 1: as expressive as it gets, and you're in your and

1951
01:46:31,200 --> 01:46:33,720
Speaker 1: you have this sort of wild animalistic side to you

1952
01:46:33,800 --> 01:46:39,000
Speaker 1: that is so awesome that can be interpreted differently, you know,

1953
01:46:39,680 --> 01:46:42,479
Speaker 1: and so and so, Yeah, the cell phone's like the

1954
01:46:42,600 --> 01:46:49,679
Speaker 1: worst thing. You say, fuh film away, film dance. Yeah,

1955
01:46:50,400 --> 01:46:53,200
Speaker 1: I feel bad for y'all, even y'all, you know, I mean,

1956
01:46:53,240 --> 01:46:55,800
Speaker 1: because white. We had a good We had a good

1957
01:46:55,880 --> 01:46:58,439
Speaker 1: run though, without the without the iPhones, we had a

1958
01:46:58,520 --> 01:47:03,120
Speaker 1: good run. Just listen anyway, you guys, thank you, thank

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01:47:03,160 --> 01:47:05,400
Speaker 1: you guys so much. This is really fun. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I'll see you guys later. Guys, appreciate are your brother

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Speaker 1: Yeah by Sibling Revelry is executive produced by Kate Hudson

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Speaker 1: and Oliver Hudson. Producer is Alison Presnik. Music by Mark

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Speaker 1: Hudson a k a. Uncle Mark