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Speaker 1: This is a headgun podcast, Slave Ring Ring. Hi, Grammar

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Speaker 1: fr Tavern. This is Amy. How can I help you? Hi? Amy?

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Speaker 1: My name is Bill. I'm a flanning from Saint Louis

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow and I have a have a light business in

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Speaker 1: her There's no way you could fit me and a

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Speaker 1: few of my boys in around ten ten pm. Well, Bill, first,

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Speaker 1: can I just say thank you so much for considering

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Speaker 1: choosing grammar'sy tavern for this special right, it sounds like

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Speaker 1: you guys are in for a fun time. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: be pretty tired and jet lagged, yeah, but taking out

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Speaker 1: a few big ones so my company. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have some fun. Okay, Okay, so there's a

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Speaker 1: lot on the line. I got it. Okay. Oh, ten's

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Speaker 1: looking really tough. Is there maybe an ideal window that

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Speaker 1: you're looking for so I can root for a cancelation?

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Speaker 1: Because I really want to get you in there. Ooh,

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Speaker 1: thank you, Amy. You know people don't mean. People in

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Speaker 1: New York City were kind of mean, but you have

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Speaker 1: a different air about you. You know. I've heard that too.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually not from New York City. I'm actually from

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Speaker 1: the same town that you're from. No, I won't get

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Speaker 1: out of our town. How about this. Me and my

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Speaker 1: guys are gonna come at ten. You try to find

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Speaker 1: us a table. If not, I'll be standing out there

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Speaker 1: when you get off with a bouquet of roses. Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, Bob, don't get my station. I'll suked all right, Amy,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave you, and you have my number. Wait

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Speaker 1: a minute, something just opened up, and I don't mean

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Speaker 1: a table. I gotta tell you something, miss Amy. I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm married. I'm a married man, and I would never

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Speaker 1: risk my faithful, god fearing marriage for anything. But you

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Speaker 1: seem like someone that we were just meant to be,

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Speaker 1: and I might have to put my marriage on the line.

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Speaker 1: I might have to get us a room at the

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Speaker 1: high Union Square. Some God shows us things and has

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Speaker 1: a plan for us that's outside of the plan that

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Speaker 1: we originally thought that we had. That's from my favorite book,

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Speaker 1: the Bible, John four twelve. And may I suggest instead

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Speaker 1: of the Union Square hat the Park Hyat on fifty

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Speaker 1: seventh because it is a Nasser hotel. Oh, thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for this tip. I've been carrying around this Voters,

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety two, New York. God and the voters is

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Speaker 1: historically inaccurate and often leads guests astray. Maybe you can

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Speaker 1: show me around this great city that you've become very

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Speaker 1: familiar with, extremely familiar in myst six months here since

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Speaker 1: I moved from our town. Okay, well, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of other calls that I have to attend to. I

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Speaker 1: like that ambitious, ambitious Amy. Y'all got a nickname from

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Speaker 1: me already, our ambitious Amy. I see you tomorrow at

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Speaker 1: t MPM sharp. Okay, I'll be the man in the

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Speaker 1: lavender tie, big wool blazer and a ten bucked on

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Speaker 1: hat and smelling lock steps him. They're not not that

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Speaker 1: their line of cologne that they put out to match

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Speaker 1: their hits. It was now talking to you, sir. I'll

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Speaker 1: be seeing you there ten pm on the sharp bot

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Speaker 1: of clock. Okay, best wishes and it was my pleasure

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Speaker 1: speaking with you. Thank you the saying we have Grammercy tavern.

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Speaker 1: You have a great day. Okay. You two knockaback. Who's

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Speaker 1: that knocking at the door. It's all your friends, you

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Speaker 1: filthy horse. Your husband's gone and you've got books and

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Speaker 1: a bottle of wine to kill. It's books. It's gossip.

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Speaker 1: I'm shook. It's memoirs. Marteenk Club can read it while

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Speaker 1: it's hot. Clebrity Book Club, tell your secrets. We won't

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Speaker 1: talk celebrity books. No boys are allowed. Clemo say loud, pow,

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Speaker 1: buzz man. I brought the Queer Voe mission and vibes. Hey,

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Speaker 1: best friend, Oh my god, Hey, best friends, I'm Steven.

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Speaker 1: It turns out I'm really and we read celebrity memoirs

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Speaker 1: so you don't have to. So this past few weeks

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Speaker 1: we've been reading Setting the Table by Danny Meyer. Danny Meyer,

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Speaker 1: of course restaurant Tour, perhaps the most famous or most

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Speaker 1: influential restaurant pour in the world, and most classy restaurant tour.

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Speaker 1: I want to say absolutely. You may know eleven Madison Park,

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Speaker 1: freestormach restaurant in New York. You may know un Square

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Speaker 1: Cafe kind of redefine the bistro, absolutely new American cuisine

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Speaker 1: I was like, what is Doblo that one and that

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Speaker 1: Reinventing the nineteen fifties drive by American roadside Burger and Custard.

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Speaker 1: You mean drive drive in, drive in a drive drive

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Speaker 1: the waitresses who won like a waitress competition. He dragged

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Speaker 1: getting too fast. But basically this Atrius and Union Square

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Speaker 1: Cafe described herself as like thirty percent Maywest on like

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Speaker 1: seventy percent Walter Cronkite, And that is the procumbination of

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Speaker 1: in what contexts Walter Cronkite is because you're delivering the

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Speaker 1: I don't really know this, but don't people love Walter

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Speaker 1: Crunkute And it's people just been like we sat down

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Speaker 1: Danny Meyer has a dad who is a so Okay,

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Speaker 1: so Danny Meyer. Oh wait, first, you're probably wondering why

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Speaker 1: we read this book. Oh, that's a really good point

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Speaker 1: to bring up. So we're gonna have obsessed with restaurants

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Speaker 1: gorgeous local bookseller, and so how do you support your

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Speaker 1: His point is that just like, if he's going to

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Speaker 1: cover of this book, so the book is called Sitting

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Speaker 1: the Table, The Transforming Power of Hospitality and Business. It

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Speaker 1: Square Cafe and he goes, I want you to take

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Speaker 1: the tablecloth and everything off that table right now, but

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Speaker 1: But it's how you go through life and manage these mistakes.

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Speaker 1: the reasons I don't think I've ever related to one

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Speaker 1: means he really studied in France and so they have

424
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 1: strict rules there. So back to his upbringing for a second. Okay,

425
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,119
Speaker 1: this is where I really related to him. He was

426
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 1: a hungry, hungry child, has an eating disorder, and he's

427
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 1: thin too. I want to I feel like he's a binger. Well,

428
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,120
Speaker 1: he literally refers to bening. I mean he talks about

429
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 1: in the how his parents kind of like chided him

430
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,199
Speaker 1: regaining weight in middle school and that he would sneak

431
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:44,920
Speaker 1: down for like and like unwrapped like pursue in their

432
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,440
Speaker 1: kitchen and then wrap it back up carefully so the

433
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 1: mom wouldn't notice, for like the butcher paper just like,

434
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,920
Speaker 1: and he'd be always like stealing so many slices. And

435
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,440
Speaker 1: then okay, well the mad part, okay, okay, well yeah,

436
00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 1: his life the family slave. That part was so where

437
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 1: he just kind of pops in and he's like our

438
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 1: good housekeeper who came from share croppers. Just yeah, never

439
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 1: mentioned It's just like as she came from share prockers

440
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 1: and she would cook us fried chicken and I'm not

441
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,159
Speaker 1: she would secretly give me fried chicken and then like

442
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,199
Speaker 1: throughout the day as she was cooking it, and then

443
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: I would eat it and flushed the bones down the toilet,

444
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,879
Speaker 1: so my mom wouldn't know that the bone flush was

445
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 1: so obese and like eat it. That was the most

446
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 1: aged sort. It's like well because she would see the

447
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,119
Speaker 1: bones in the trash and then you'd get like whipped

448
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 1: for all you're like right hungry. Maybe daddy would spank

449
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 1: or something. I feel like daddy was a spanker and

450
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,399
Speaker 1: that wasn't mentioned, but like, yeah, so his dad was

451
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:48,120
Speaker 1: a big drinking Saint Louis hotelierge, which is very Maywest, right,

452
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 1: that part is so Maywest. And his businesses were also

453
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 1: like that of like a throwaway nineteen fifties, like slapstick comedy,

454
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 1: like couldn't you see like a movie like in nineteen

455
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 1: fifty seven, he ran a business for were tours through

456
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 1: Italy four people who worked in the airline industry, and

457
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 1: it's someone like getting in a total mix up or

458
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 1: something like he was just catering to like flight attendants

459
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 1: and pilots who were like on shore leave or whatever

460
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 1: you get from PanAm and then they come to Rome

461
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 1: and want to take like a seven day restaurant tour.

462
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 1: And he like charters a bus for all these flight

463
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 1: attendants and he finds like all these trotias and takes

464
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 1: them to it. I mean, great idea. Sure before the Internet, right,

465
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 1: please you needed well. And this is back to that

466
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 1: point that we're always making. I think that it's just

467
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 1: like before the Internet, just like you could just have

468
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 1: like any random business. Well yeah, and it's like as

469
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,400
Speaker 1: we were saying, and like all these business people who

470
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,360
Speaker 1: like as Danny Meyer was like, oh yeah, and then

471
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 1: I like got so rich in sales when I was

472
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 1: twenty three, he graduated called a million dollar earner for

473
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 1: like this random software what was it called, like soft Bank? Yeah,

474
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 1: like soft Bank, And he was like and I was

475
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 1: their best damned salesman on the team. And hell, I

476
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,479
Speaker 1: was making like I had to take a PA when

477
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 1: I worked at Une Square Cafe. And it's just like

478
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 1: that was so brave of you to take that pay cut.

479
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,679
Speaker 1: I mean it's very just like classic. I think rich

480
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: Kid obviously been like following dreams, being like you know what, no,

481
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,199
Speaker 1: I will stop making a million dollars so I can

482
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 1: open a restaurant. And that is brave. But he was

483
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: I also I feel like his child was very mind

484
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 1: because his parents were very just like taking him out

485
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: of school for a week because they had to go

486
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 1: to like stop on vacation. No, I really felt like

487
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 1: it was the Alps, like I'm sorry, m Danny is

488
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 1: going to be missing seven days. I really felt in

489
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,719
Speaker 1: the beginning that I was like reading about your family.

490
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: And that's why I think I really like got in

491
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 1: there because it was like about like so many vacations

492
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 1: and just like they were always going to like the

493
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 1: Belmont horse races for seven weeks and just being like

494
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 1: I went with Daddy to the races every day and

495
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,959
Speaker 1: then that's what I learned how to order oysters Rockefeller

496
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: Celebripook Club. So I have a passage here from one

497
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 1: of the vacations they took as children to Europe. This

498
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,360
Speaker 1: book is also I would say maybe the first third

499
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: of this book, it's simply listing things, just listing restaurants.

500
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: It's listing restaurants in Italy. It's listing restaurants in France

501
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 1: and food that they had a restaurant, listening wines from

502
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: particularly vineyards that they had at different restaurants in France

503
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 1: on their trip to Italy. Okay, so this is like

504
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 1: part of him falling in love with the concept of food.

505
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: My parents took vacations alone together at least twice a year. Oh,

506
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 1: this is also so my parents like Daddy and I

507
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: are We're going to go to France for a week

508
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 1: and a half and our maid will take care of you.

509
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: I did not grow up with the slave. No, I

510
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:53,199
Speaker 1: would never say that. I'm an indentured nanny who lived

511
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 1: in like a very small room in our house. We

512
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 1: have to just take all one quick minute to talk

513
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 1: about Stephen had a host of nanny's one who ran

514
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: a very early internet camming site. Yes, I had a

515
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: nanny who worn sixty nine nor Her website was called

516
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 1: wild Child with Why Why Wild and it was like

517
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: her like solo site. And she was a big girl.

518
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: And she was kind of like one of I don't

519
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: know if want of first big girls, but I'm sure

520
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: there's been big girls before her. But she was like Conna.

521
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: She had a Florida Florida Celentory Amos poster. She took

522
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 1: me to see Blue Man Group. She was friends with

523
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: Marilyn Manson. Friends with Marilyn Manson. Yeah, she would always

524
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: like call him Brian. She'd be like, oh yeah, Brian,

525
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 1: and your brother like discovered like her massive digital camera

526
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 1: with like all of her. I never knew. I found

527
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 1: out way later and I was totally scarred. Were you

528
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 1: really scarred? No? I was just like what it was

529
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: just so many. I was twelve at the time. I

530
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: mean I think that's I'm always like, did your brotherhood

531
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 1: up with her? Like? I think it definitely to find

532
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 1: his sexuality, Yeah, for sure, because he's definitely like into

533
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 1: that type of girl and it's like such a horny

534
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: little freak. Okay, Anyway back to the Dyer passage. My

535
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,719
Speaker 1: parents took vacations alone together at least twice a year,

536
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: and with us into another three times a year, so

537
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: that's five vacations. The Christmas and Easter vacations were often

538
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: spent in Florida, in or around Miami, where my dad

539
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: could be within striking distance of high leet or golf

540
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: stream parks that he could bet on the daily double

541
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: gamily at every summer into family vacation wept to three weeks.

542
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: We went to California when I was six PCU Bandersons

543
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: in salvang and sourdough bread and abylone at Fisherman's Wharf

544
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 1: made an indelible impression. We went to France when I

545
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: was seven. Everything made an impression. The hot chocolate at

546
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: breakfast so bitter that needed two cuns of sugar, the

547
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: yeasty baguettes, the sour crem fresh, and the salty deep

548
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: yellow butter. We went to New England when I was eight.

549
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: Friday switched clams, lobster rolls, drawn butter, creamy clam chowder,

550
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: and Golden Indian pudding. With the Golden Indian pudding, it's

551
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: like a two rick pudding. Is that a New England delicacy?

552
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: I feel like that feels very like a Native American

553
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: like tradition that I don't know about them. That's wat

554
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: And I feel like what I really related to him

555
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: talking about how when he would go to other people's houses,

556
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 1: like not on vacation, that was like his other food travels,

557
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: which was very me like because like when you're a kid,

558
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: you're always like so like shocked, but like what other

559
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: kids have that like your parents didn't have because you've

560
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: never known another world on your parents exactly. So it's

561
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: like he would go over and be like, you guys

562
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: use a different kind of mayor you guys use like

563
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: this barbecue sauce, and he was always like being so mean,

564
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: like reviewing mayos and sauces. I always remember my mom.

565
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: My mother grew up pretty paw and in you know,

566
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, and her parents were just like so fifties

567
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: and like spam only and just like canned corn. Yeah,

568
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: And she talked about going to their neighbors, the Tangs,

569
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: who served her pizza for the first time, and she

570
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: was like so shocked by it. Now, my mom she

571
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: didn't have pasta until she was like thirteen because she

572
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: grew up in a very small town and up standing

573
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: arc and she was shocked by it. She also talks

574
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: about going to my father, who grew up Italian and

575
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: the Bronx, going to his parents' house for Thanksgiving, and

576
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: it was like she was like, I was so shocked,

577
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: and it was so just like eight hundred meatballs like

578
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: before the turkey and like and then after we were

579
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: done eating like all the meatballs in the turkey, we

580
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: went over to like someone else's house for just like

581
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 1: the salamat dessert. Okay, this next list is his first

582
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 1: day with Audrey. Okay, so the rom com that is

583
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: his romance with his wife. I mean it starts out

584
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: it's the well, they work at the same restaurant and

585
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: they're like riding into each other in Floridane and they're

586
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: always like climbing upstairs and going to the basement and

587
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: kind of like running into each other, and everyone's kind

588
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: of talking about at the restaurant. This part is actually

589
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: way more Anhathaway than Kate Hudson. Yeah, it's I mean,

590
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: I would even say it's like more nice indies. It

591
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: could even be just like like a Julia roberts movie,

592
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: not even Anne Hathaway. Yeah, and he's like, you know,

593
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: it's not working, but it's like he's a Richard gear

594
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: type in there, or he's like a young Robert he's

595
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: a prostitute. Okay, sorry, he's a young Robert Downey junior.

596
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: This is the man of movie. She's Julia Roberts um.

597
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: Debbie Maysar is like her sassy friend. It was just like, so,

598
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: when the hell is he going to ask you out?

599
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: She's like, it's it's so foh oh so I before

600
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: we talked about this, should I drop? So? Do you

601
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 1: realize that my first ever lover worked at Grammercy tavern. Wait,

602
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: and that's why she met her husband. Yeah, my jaw

603
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: is on the floor, and I feel like that also

604
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: probably gave me my root of kind of Joanne, Joanne,

605
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: will you lost your Virginia? You in Chicago in college? Yes? Later,

606
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: I'm still love five. Anyway, it was not fall, it

607
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: was fault was Halloween because then I the next time

608
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: I had sex was the next time I mean, and

609
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, having sex annually? Um wait, that's

610
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: so insane. You beat me by so many months. Well,

611
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:25,479
Speaker 1: I think you're definitely And Stephen has surpassed me by

612
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: millions in same gossip. I think what they have they

613
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,479
Speaker 1: headed for split spell? Well no, no, no, I think

614
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: they like when they both were working at Gramacy to

615
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: have hern like there was drama. Now they're like, wait,

616
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: happily married and having they literally has been the same

617
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: way Danny Meyer met his wife. Yeah, they were sure

618
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: been at a Dandy Myer restaurant. He was chef like

619
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: a sue and she was in the pastry department. Okay,

620
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: women are always in the pastry to well, I think

621
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: that's like a sexism where it's like it's hard to

622
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: get and I see it like women I think are

623
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: taught that they're like just for pot they're baking, and right,

624
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: kitchen is so like yes, chef, and you're jerking off

625
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: into like you know, like shopping, and women are like

626
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: molding dough, right, even though it's like women are supposed

627
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: to like be cooks, but it's like more manly for

628
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: like right, because like so many of the biggest pastry

629
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: sides Christina Tosi, you know are women that woman that

630
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: like invented Patali's person who like invented gelatto, Nancy something whatever.

631
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: She's like a famous gelatoist. And see this is where

632
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: as police it's restaurant tours a square. I may please

633
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: just read the passage about their first date. Well, now

634
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: we have this context of Joanna her husband soon that

635
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: I'm sure okay. We started with drinks at the Algonquin Hotel,

636
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: barely made the curtain for noises off at the brook

637
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: Batkinson Theater on Broadway, took a cab down to Tribacca

638
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: for dinner at the Odeon, then perhaps the liveliest and

639
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: most delicious late night dining spots south of Canal Street,

640
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: over to le Zinc for after dinner drinks, and walked

641
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: all the way up to the West Village from more

642
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: drinks and conversation that another late favorite restaurant, tech Sarcana.

643
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: We meandered up to Audrey's apartment on twenty second Street,

644
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: which was across the street from Pasca, where we listened

645
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: to tapes of her singing Broadway tunes and talked until

646
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: four in the morning. At that point I took a

647
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 1: cab up to my own place. I would do at

648
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: work at the restaurant. In just a few hours, I

649
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: got just enough exuberant sleep to have the wherewithal to

650
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 1: write a thank you card. My mother's lessons were at

651
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,479
Speaker 1: last Paine's for life Dividends, which Audrey found slipped under

652
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: her door when she woke up later. That cletely insane

653
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 1: as that to write like a thank you card after adage.

654
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: That's so, I mean, yeah, that is cute. That is

655
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: absolutely that is actually cute. Who would do because to

656
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: take the time right and you know he's putting his

657
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: cards on the table. Okay, But what is a little

658
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: weird is that he went home and then came back

659
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 1: to her apartment secretly to slip it under her door. Well,

660
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: this is what's so New York and Grammarcy where everyone's

661
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: just like a five minute walk. So it's a TV

662
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: show where people up, people are meeting at seven our

663
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 1: favorite thing. Um, but I'm just like, I don't know.

664
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: I guess if someone did that to me, I would

665
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: think it was the cutest thing ever, but I would

666
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: also be super creeping. Thing was slipped under mine. Yeah,

667
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: but you talked later and then you're like when did

668
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: you come by? Like you went home at three thing,

669
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: came back at eight to Ridgewood and put this like

670
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: hand well again right. Imagine if like you were on

671
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 1: a date and you lived on twenty third in Madison

672
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: and the guy lived on twenty fifth and like, les, Okay, yeah,

673
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: I know I was just like hearing about that date.

674
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: It's like that is why that is the movie, because

675
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 1: after he leaves, the girl just says like and then

676
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: like door leans against the door and then falls to

677
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,760
Speaker 1: the floor, and then like her friends are like calling

678
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: her like off the hook her big phone. I mean

679
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: I do that like often, I would say like in

680
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: my head, but I'm always wanting on kind of my

681
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: first dates to kind of evoke that energy of like

682
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 1: and then we went for late night drinks. What was

683
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,439
Speaker 1: your first date with my head, Well, I do feel

684
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: like it was kind of girlfriend, yeah, kind of that.

685
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 1: So we went our first i'd say official date. I

686
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 1: was performing at like a gallery comedy show you were hosting,

687
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: and she came. It was like an installation of a

688
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 1: gallery and I played the kaschef as usual. Wait, that

689
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: was your first day. So she came that because she

690
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: was like coming to chocol and we had like already

691
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 1: like met out and so she like stopped by that

692
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: and was like, yeah, like do you want to like

693
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: come to me to like this drinks thing. So then

694
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: like we headed into Brooklyn. We got on the f

695
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: train okay, and then like went to this random drinks

696
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,439
Speaker 1: and I assumed all these girls were her best friends,

697
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 1: but it was like rands. It was after you take it.

698
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: It's like a cool fucking downtown comedy show. Yeah. Then

699
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 1: we got drinks the coolest comedians on you are going okay,

700
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: and I'm just like these are her best friends, but

701
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: actually she's just like I turned out like she was

702
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: like I've never seen those girls, like I heard gun.

703
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: It was like weird, risky camp friends. Anyway, and then

704
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 1: we're like okay, now we're gonna like pop into with

705
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: someone else's goodbye drinks and then and this is where

706
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: I am Danny Meyer. So after that and then we're

707
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: like okay, like let's go back to your house to

708
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: finally go to home. Basse, we passed by this bar

709
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: live jazz is playing, and then you duck yeah, and

710
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 1: we fucking duck. This book should actually be called ducky Yeah,

711
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,439
Speaker 1: duck it. And then we ducked and got a beer

712
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: and like made out to live jazz and then and

713
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: then continue walking home, we got like emotally cheating. Her

714
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: was the trombone and you were playing. Um. I didn't

715
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 1: do the note though the next morning. But anyway, that

716
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: is like my old Twith thing to like to come

717
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: upon something, which if now my boyfriend I was, he

718
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: was so not that. Okay, We went to Birdies and

719
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: like got wasted and then went back to his tiny

720
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,760
Speaker 1: apartment and like did go and smoked we eat. Okay,

721
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 1: So may I transition now that we're talking about um

722
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: jazz to talk about barbecue blue smoke and oh wait,

723
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. What he has his idea for like a

724
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: website called que So ninety eight and he's like it

725
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 1: will be an interactive map and you can like find

726
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 1: out where all the best barbecue plizzes are. I mean

727
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: sounds like a cool website in nineteen ninety eight. But

728
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,760
Speaker 1: he's like, I am glad looking back that I didn't

729
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 1: do that website. Okay. So he's like loves barbecue and

730
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: like is like obviously like such a fat kid. And

731
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,879
Speaker 1: it's like this guy, whatever, invite me over from fucking

732
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: ribs and like I've been like testing like smoke pits

733
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: all over this country. So he opens his barbecue restaurant

734
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: and he's like, my whole thing is that I didn't

735
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 1: want it to see in like a theme park, and

736
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 1: just like the last thing you wanted to do was

737
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 1: to have like so many old coke signs. But like

738
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 1: I've passed by Blue Smoke and it looks is so

739
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,760
Speaker 1: old coke science and I guess they got like really,

740
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: I mean, it's defining still I don't want to seem

741
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: like a theme park. And it's like it looks like

742
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 1: a fucking theme park on the website, right, And it's

743
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: like his books, so airport, yeah, and then it's being

744
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: Bruce Smoke and just like Neon and like twisty things

745
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: and like everyone is like in a plaid shirt and

746
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't know, I do think that. He

747
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: was like, it's so hard to do bbque New York

748
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 1: because people it's all about context. Well, smoke ordinances is huge,

749
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: for one, but also people are obsessed with finding an

750
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: off the beaten track barbecue plays and that is the

751
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,240
Speaker 1: thrill of it and then going in, so like nothing

752
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: is off the beaten path about going at twenty third

753
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: in Madison. And also like Danny Mine is already famous,

754
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: and it's just like we already have the celebrity things, right,

755
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: and you're like, okay, so you're popping up this baby que.

756
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 1: You know what I want to do because there is

757
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: a jazz club underneath, right, one day we should go

758
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 1: to the jazz club and you can get fair from that,

759
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: Like cousin yes, and he like bought him out or something.

760
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: But then I looked and there's like a blue smoke

761
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: at JFK, so maybe right, which was like, yeah, that's

762
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: not off math. Maybe on our next flight to who

763
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: knows Nantucket sends Ashville, Toronto, m we'll stop at bs

764
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 1: BS feel very jet Blue terminal four and you're getting

765
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: just like a eighteen ninety nine pulled pork sandwich. Um.

766
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 1: And you're from an iPad because we're a service. Nowadays,

767
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: everything is automated. Okay, I love the word he uses

768
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 1: a hospitalitarium. Um. Okay. So Danny Meyer's restaurants a few

769
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: years ago made quite a lot of news, quite a

770
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: bit of hubbub. I've got a lot of tongues of

771
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: flapping and lips of wagging about. Or I wait, reverse that,

772
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: tongues of tongues wagging and lips of flapping about not

773
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 1: tip and completely eliminating tipping from most restaurants and instead

774
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: including it in to the prices. So your food is

775
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: a little bit higher, woo's more expensive, but everyone's getting

776
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: tipe equally, and therefore the poor waiters and waitresses are

777
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: not dependent on the whims of some crazy rich marazy

778
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: rich man who I maybe had a bad day. It

779
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like and it's just like I got my

780
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 1: salad lating, you're pouring my wine. Okay, bad day of

781
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: the marketing comes in and takes it out on the waitress.

782
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 1: One thing about wine, when there's a reviewer that comes in,

783
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 1: he knows the guy like hates when white wine is

784
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: too chilled. So Danny Meyer rubs it between his thighs. Yeah,

785
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,919
Speaker 1: and then it turns out of the wine is too warm. Yeah,

786
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: and it was like all this this hot thigh wine

787
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 1: that actually does sound kind of good though, and I do,

788
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: and I will say I actually used to work a

789
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: City winery, which is as as an usher, which is

790
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: a a position that's like a It's like a two

791
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: and a half hour job. Yeah, it's kind of the

792
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 1: lowest well in Danny Moyer world. You're part of the ballet. Okay,

793
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 1: you're absolutely part of the ballet. You're you're a flute

794
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: in the orchestra. It was a good job because I

795
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 1: got to see shows for free. Say, I saw Macy Gray,

796
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 1: I saw City Winery is a place that like, hmm,

797
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 1: it's very fully people that have like a really big

798
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: singer songwriter album in ninety two, Yeah, and had like

799
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 1: one big hit like what Tim's Diner. Yeah, Susan Vegas

800
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,439
Speaker 1: saw her perform there. Betty always plays there, the band

801
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,919
Speaker 1: that sings Belward theme song. Anyway, one thing I learned

802
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: to in the City Winery was that red wine is

803
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: often served too hot at restaurants and white wine is

804
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: served too cold because like the Americans here here stupid,

805
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 1: and they're always like red wine supposed to be steamy boots.

806
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: And Okay, there's that passage where he talks about like

807
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: things that really know him are about restaurants that like

808
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 1: servers to, which was so fucking on theme. He was

809
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: extremely accurate. Okay, So I do think the best thing

810
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: about he teaches his servers and is to be like,

811
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: you need to know when someone is like either having

812
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: a business lunch or like an anniversary or just like

813
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 1: needs to be left alone or like does want to

814
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 1: be catered to. He also goes in that whole thing

815
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: which is so insane of how he manages a reservation

816
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: and he's like, if I know that like a publishing

817
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: mogul is sitting at like table like thirteen, and then

818
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: I see that like a finance year is sitting at

819
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 1: like table twenty seven, I'm going to sit them together.

820
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: And then it's like ten days later, Yes, a deal

821
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: was brokered and they had investments. So I mean, you know,

822
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: he's the original Trump. He actually as the dealmaker. Yeah,

823
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: and he's making the deals happen in paximity. Okay, this

824
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: passage where he talks about what he doesn't want waiters

825
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: to do. I cringe when a waiter asks how is everything?

826
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: That's an empty question that will get an empty response. Also,

827
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 1: I can't stand the use of we to mean you,

828
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,760
Speaker 1: as in how are we doing so far? I abhor

829
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: the question are you still working on the lamb? If

830
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: the guest has been working on the lamb, it probably

831
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: wasn't very tender or very good in the first place.

832
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: You know, my parents are like obsessed with like roasting

833
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 1: servers who ask if you're still working? Like that was

834
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: like their family joke, but they really like kind of

835
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 1: oh they still make it, they still make it, And

836
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, I mean, I mean yes tee.

837
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: Though I remember being like my hand and they were like,

838
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 1: are we still working? We're not working, We're eating. What

839
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: I find annoying about, though, is it's just like it

840
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: like makes me feel like guilty for having not finished

841
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: it well, because it's like they're waiting and they're like,

842
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: are you are you still like you're still kind of

843
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,760
Speaker 1: plunging your way through this chicken here, and it's like, Babe,

844
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: I'm trying to enjoy myself. Oh if I guess that's

845
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 1: thank you for something. The waiters should not answer no problem,

846
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: since why does it necessarily deny that delivery excellent service

847
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848
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849
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Speaker 1: But I also feel like you're welcome is somewhat like

852
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: overly formal. Yeah, I feel like you just say nothing,

853
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: can't say my pleasure. I think it's kind of nice.

854
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855
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856
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,960
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857
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 1: then like when we went to real tour of our

858
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:10,800
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859
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 1: our joke because any time like we're like, oh, can

860
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: we get towels, they would deliver towels Danny Meyer style

861
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,280
Speaker 1: to our door and then they would call a second

862
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: later and be like, hello, how is your towel experience? Right,

863
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: and you're just like, this is too much hospitality. Actually

864
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: you should you should know when to step back, and

865
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 1: I want to push forward. Well, because one thing that

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867
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868
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,440
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869
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,520
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870
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 1: call and then are you going to go ahead and

871
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: enjoy the towels that you received. It's just it's a lot,

872
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: and I do have to kind of get through my day. Okay.

873
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 1: I felt, by the way, like reading this book and

874
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: like taking all my scrolls of notes. I felt like

875
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: so um, like a down and out businessman in like

876
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: a worn like suit, like reading this book, yeah, like

877
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 1: how to be successful, and I'm taking furious notes, being

878
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: like the road to success is paved with mistakes, and

879
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: I'm just like, no, I'll let me just read this

880
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 1: book and then I'll become like a rich hotel. Yeah. Well,

881
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: so when I was, I would say, age was nine

882
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: to eleven, I really want to own a hotel. That

883
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,200
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884
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,680
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885
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:35,480
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886
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,000
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887
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: then I was thinking I would own a hotel and

888
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 1: I have this recurring fantasy, and it was usually just

889
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: kind of like me walking into a hotel and then

890
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,879
Speaker 1: like me saying in a desk and I'm just like, oh,

891
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 1: I just want to go to hotels. So there wasn't

892
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Speaker 1: really a lot of just like not even like deed

893
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,840
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894
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,880
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895
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899
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905
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,160
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906
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: I know, I'm not shouting that up. You know what,

907
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,480
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908
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 1: because I think I have great hospitality. Yes, and I

909
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,919
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913
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914
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921
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922
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,120
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923
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926
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929
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935
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937
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Speaker 1: Isn't that crazy? These cultural rules we built, right, like,

938
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Speaker 1: why does one thing have to be one way? And

939
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: this was something we could go you know, probably late

940
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 1: night eats at Uion Square Cafe, Gumsy tavern, right and

941
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,399
Speaker 1: just discuss it, right, And who says that a late

942
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:31,000
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943
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 1: Who says you can't have a gorgeous steak free its reinvented?

944
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: Who says that a restaurant at a museum just has

945
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: to be a rote cafeteria from museum goers and not

946
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 1: a high luxury dining experience. Speaking of Tuesday night, we

947
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 1: went to the Modern, the two star I believe restaurant.

948
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: In the moment it was never it was I had

949
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 1: never been. It was absolutely fabulous. It was so fucking

950
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,879
Speaker 1: fab We got drinks. I also would say, let's talk

951
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: about the service for a second. The going in was phenomenal.

952
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: It's like the also, it was so perfectly going in

953
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:16,399
Speaker 1: Lily's stages of a meal. The going in well, because

954
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: he talks about like hospitality like it is a battlefield.

955
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: The reservationist is our first line of defense. And it's

956
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 1: like there were no tables and we were like, there

957
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: was no seats at the bar, and we were like

958
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 1: asking if we could have like a bar table, and

959
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: she was being so classic restaurant like literally, you know,

960
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: she was just like paging through an iPad that was

961
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: just blank and was just like, yeah, maybe we can

962
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 1: squeeze you in. It's gonna be forty five minutes. And

963
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 1: it is about managing expectation, right, because you don't want

964
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: to promise something or turn someone off, right, and you

965
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 1: don't want to like overbook and like you know, kill

966
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: the waiters and kill the kitchen. But then she was like,

967
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 1: do you mind like all squeezing around this table and

968
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: it was like this absolutely massive banquet that could have

969
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,320
Speaker 1: fit like five more people, and she was like is

970
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: this okay? Or just like we'll suffer, right, We'll suffer

971
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 1: it's just a midtown and I feel like people in

972
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 1: midtown are like I need like a wide wide banquette

973
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 1: to like sit my ass down on the spatial relations

974
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: in midtown. And we're kind of we're accustomed to come

975
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 1: five lash leagues cramming in our millennials. We we'll fit

976
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: like Sardays. So I would say it was perfect service,

977
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 1: you know, it was. They laughed at some of ard jokes.

978
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: When I was when I was coughing, a waiter came

979
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 1: within like fifteen seconds with like a jug of water,

980
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: like seeing that I was coughing and needed water. It

981
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: was eyes open, yes, And we ordered quite randomly. I'll say, yeah,

982
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 1: we got scallops and fries dessert for so this was

983
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 1: because our friend was being weird. But and you know,

984
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: and they didn't bat an eye. And they're like the

985
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,399
Speaker 1: same friend who ironically was in that story I told

986
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 1: earlier about wanting to set at a different table of chilies.

987
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,479
Speaker 1: And you have to be ready for anything when someone says, hey,

988
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,439
Speaker 1: I want to get ice cream, and then I want

989
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 1: you don't bat an I'll actually bring it out as

990
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: it comes if that's what the diners need. Also, the woman,

991
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,399
Speaker 1: some woman from missus Masl was there. Okay, so follow

992
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 1: up to that story. So that actress who was missus

993
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: Swan or Miss Swan on Matt TV. It is now

994
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: in Miss Masla was a couple of seats down from

995
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 1: us at the Modern and we look over. We're like,

996
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 1: oh my god, that's that woman from our mist missus Masil.

997
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: Cut to the next time. Also she was being so

998
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 1: fab of having two phones and a whiskey my favorite meal.

999
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 1: Do you think it was a Santorian Japanese? I bet

1000
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 1: it was Japanese. Definitely. All their screaming and all their

1001
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: cocktails were a blend of a Japanese whiskey and an

1002
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 1: Australian whiskey. Okay, it's a second. These whiskeys need to live.

1003
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Speaker 1: To go here, they have to be combined. Reserve cocktails

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Speaker 1: twenty batch, reserve thirty batchy claimed reserve thirty five. So

1005
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: I was at Day's Union Square cafe the next day.

1006
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: I pull up to the bar, I put setting the

1007
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 1: table this book we're reading on the bar. I sit down.

1008
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,439
Speaker 1: The bartender looks at me goes, oh, what's that book?

1009
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 1: And I like smiling, and I'm just like, oh, it's

1010
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: about the restaurant industry. It's pretty good. Then the guy

1011
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 1: next to me, this like old middle aged guy on

1012
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: like seven iPads, turned to go. I helped him write

1013
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: it stop okay. Then like ten minutes later, these like

1014
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: two fabulous chekahs come in and are having like this

1015
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 1: way you're sitting at the bar, I'm sitting at the bar.

1016
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 1: Classic okay. Oh oh, here's always sit at the bar,

1017
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 1: always the bar. Because you become friends and the bartender,

1018
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 1: they're one, they're more likely to like probably give you

1019
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 1: some free stop bigger pores. We become friends. So then

1020
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: these two fabulous cheekers come in. They're like laughing. Within

1021
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,399
Speaker 1: thirty seconds, they're talking about Danny Marri's book and they're

1022
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 1: just like, oh no, and he says it in the book.

1023
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: The bartender's over there with these two cheekas, he turns

1024
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: to me smiles, I raise my book and show it

1025
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 1: to him, and like the cheeka goes, he was shut up.

1026
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 1: You just said the name of the book and it

1027
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: appeared quick. Same million dollars. Who know how old were there?

1028
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: We were just like forty, like oh my two one

1029
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Speaker 1: with with like the most crimped hair, like with these

1030
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Speaker 1: are the girls women. Sorry, going to a Dennermare restaurant.

1031
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 1: It is two thousand and two and you're back in

1032
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Speaker 1: the rom com and they have like probably dished on

1033
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Speaker 1: so many dates there. I mean it is also Sex

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Speaker 1: and the City because he talks about how the sex

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Speaker 1: and scooty sex and the city. The city the city

1036
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Speaker 1: absolutely came on their bus store to HMP in Madison Park. Yeah,

1037
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: one of the finest restaurants in the world. Absolutely. Um

1038
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 1: so those teachers are Then then there's a guy on

1039
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: his laptop to the right of me who is alternately

1040
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 1: like reading scripts and then checking his AO well mail

1041
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 1: this was yesterday. You'm jump jumped too, And I'm just

1042
00:54:55,719 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 1: like someone's checking their AOL mail at this like bar two.

1043
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 1: We're all having like this wine lunch. So he I've

1044
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: like already talked to the bartender about this podcast and

1045
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 1: port of wine here just just sort of be up

1046
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: fun about my motor No. I mean, because he was

1047
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:13,439
Speaker 1: like I wanted to think I was some weird spy

1048
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 1: or like that I was like a cop hired by

1049
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: Danny Meyer or like whatever. Yeah, because I was like

1050
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: that is so like wearing the band's T shirt to

1051
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 1: the band which said that you were bringing the book

1052
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 1: like there and you're being so friend center and I

1053
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 1: was like, either they're gonna love it or be like

1054
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Speaker 1: so sketched gonna love it because everyone there is a

1055
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: full Danny Meer fan, right, So this guy's listening to

1056
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: me say this, and he was telling me his career

1057
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 1: as a writer. He's like, okay, so like I'm actually

1058
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a writer for Marvelous Missus Mazel. And I

1059
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 1: was just like wait what and he was like, we

1060
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: actually had like the Mazel premiere. At moment, I was like, oh,

1061
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: like the Mazel brothers have a new movie, because I

1062
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 1: thought I just like remembered you like working for the

1063
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: basilsls and so like I know that they exist. And

1064
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 1: he was like, no, the Marvelous Missus Mazel and I

1065
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 1: was like, oh what, that's why we saw the Mazel

1066
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: star dining alone at the Modern. I can't be because

1067
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 1: I'm sure there was some other drinks. Do you think

1068
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: she like ditched it and was just like I need

1069
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:10,800
Speaker 1: to like be alone at the Modern, which is so fabulous.

1070
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I just can't be around all these people.

1071
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go next and like get my Senturi

1072
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 1: my Sentauri and have my like moment to decompress after that.

1073
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 1: Maybe it was like before the panel, she was just like, Oh,

1074
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 1: she's one of those people who's like, I hate to

1075
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: watch my own material. I can't I can't be in

1076
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 1: the theater screen. Because it was like seven or something.

1077
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,320
Speaker 1: She probably was I hate watching myself. So because of

1078
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 1: course there's Parker's so like, oh, I think I've only

1079
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:42,919
Speaker 1: seen one episode of Sex City. Anyway, it was just like, Wow,

1080
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 1: Danny Miner owns New York. Like people are going to

1081
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 1: the Moner one night and then going to Uan Squirk

1082
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 1: Cafe the next, say, I go for his hospital, and

1083
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:50,320
Speaker 1: I feel like the whole thing about un Square Cafe

1084
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 1: is him building repeat customers and people go to ut

1085
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: I was very good, people go every week. Everyone there

1086
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,320
Speaker 1: was a regular. Then another guy comes in and the

1087
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 1: bartendoi turns in me. He's like, oh, Nickla, like you

1088
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: take sparkling right, and he's like, of course, and he's

1089
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,919
Speaker 1: like and he just like knows his water in the water.

1090
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm really not like I regular anywhere,

1091
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 1: regular anywhere, and it makes me sad. Yeah, like I've

1092
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 1: like the bar probably have been to like most is

1093
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 1: probably just like Julia's peop. They don't recognize you. I

1094
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: mean I would say I'm a regular at Asian Roma,

1095
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 1: where I host my comedy show, but that doesn't countly

1096
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 1: going there just for like the spaghetti oil. No, I'm

1097
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 1: not going for the posts with oil. But if I

1098
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: ever go there when I'm not, I mean I get

1099
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 1: that's different. That's a venue evolution. Yeah, it's very different. Yeah,

1100
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 1: Like I'm alto regular at Honeys, I guess, yeah, where

1101
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 1: I perform and clean and dry. I don't really get

1102
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 1: any free drinks at honey Is really we used to Yeah,

1103
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: segment vibes? How does she live? How how does she eat? Wear? Okay,

1104
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 1: so I can have cheated just to top this off, Okay,

1105
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: what you read like an I read like it nyte

1106
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 1: like inside of like Danny d Okay, can I guess? Yeah?

1107
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 1: So let's first off, how does he live? Right? I'm

1108
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 1: guessing Like deep leather couch from Restoration Harbar. It's very

1109
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 1: restoration hardware, but it's not leather. It was all about

1110
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 1: like wine colored corduroy couches. It's just tons of big couches.

1111
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 1: It was like you're gonna need to like struggle for

1112
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 1: a seat, okay, like between just oh wait die, they

1113
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 1: have a dog that's an Italian truffle sniffing dog. What

1114
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 1: the yuck we need Wait it's literally just like a pig,

1115
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 1: but it's a dog. I wish my cat could sniff truffles.

1116
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 1: That's in soon m Yeah, I'm picturing just a lot

1117
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 1: of like warm fabric. Yeah, warm fabric was like I

1118
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 1: think it's a big and lush, huge bait. It's almost

1119
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 1: like when you go to someone's like a state in

1120
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 1: the south of France and it's like kind of like

1121
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 1: old fashioned e but like modern the estate the south

1122
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 1: of France. It was just like very old fashioned. Well

1123
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 1: I guess it actually buzz kind of a mix. It

1124
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 1: was kind of eighties and like big tile and like

1125
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 1: couches I'm talking about like I'm talking like sync worthy couches. Also,

1126
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 1: I'm picturing he has a double farm sink and like

1127
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 1: hanging copper pots, so Julia Child style that. But it's

1128
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 1: also just like a lot of big bookcases. It's a

1129
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: duplex and grammar set. It's basically just like a ton

1130
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 1: of like corduroy huge couch. Is there there's like a

1131
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 1: ladder rolling, yes, rolling ladder. Also so Danny Mark always

1132
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 1: talks about how he's obsessed with early Americana antiques and

1133
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 1: he saw American pickers and he's getting a massive propeller,

1134
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 1: which is like the straight way to like design is

1135
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 1: like you can be obsessed, but it is so propeller

1136
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 1: and like barn door and like a desk from Massachusetts

1137
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 1: in sixteen twenty three. They want to harken back to

1138
00:59:56,880 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 1: a time when things were a little severe. I knew

1139
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 1: their place. Shall we say, Okay, what does he wear?

1140
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 1: I mean he's so just like slim the most like

1141
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 1: navy blazer. He's so like I have a tailor that

1142
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 1: I've had for three Yeah, it's like the most boring

1143
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 1: to the tailoring district to get my clothes tailored. Like

1144
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 1: there's a feel like he has like a Brioni suit,

1145
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: like or like Laura Piano. Definitely Rioni suits and it's Ermani.

1146
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 1: It's just like classic suits tailor. He's always he's also

1147
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 1: very like my shirts in London, get my shirts in London,

1148
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 1: I get my ties in France and I but he

1149
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 1: has like a really good pair of levers for like

1150
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 1: Sundays only, Yes, Sundays only, and that's when like he

1151
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 1: walks the truffle when I go find a new pit spot,

1152
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 1: a new pitch jointing. Yeah, he's like, we grab some

1153
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 1: beers and watch the Cardinals and just just riffed on

1154
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 1: jazz antiques. And Barbie does seem like he ever is

1155
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 1: really relaxed though, and that's another gay panting thing, like

1156
01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 1: I feel like he's no, but I also but he

1157
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 1: doesn't sleep that much. Yeah, I mean he's like, oh,

1158
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 1: he's very like a luminati four hours an eight. Yes,

1159
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 1: what does he eat? Because what doesn't he eats? Like

1160
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 1: he yes, is going on like constant trips and is

1161
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 1: tasting everything. It was going to every beast Rone is

1162
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 1: always like perfecting his restaurants. But I also feel like

1163
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 1: he's like still like so weirdly like celeb and it's

1164
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 1: just like random parfe like juice in the morning and

1165
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 1: then like what do you think a parfet is? So? Um,

1166
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 1: like a parfe is a granola and yogurt. Oh okay,

1167
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, all right, parfe is like so desserved though

1168
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 1: not like this huge banana tree. It's like I'm just

1169
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 1: thinking more like it's some like icelandic yogurt with blueberries.

1170
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 1: And then like his wife is like, Danny, you should

1171
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 1: eat breakfast, and he's like, I don't eat breakfast. Or

1172
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 1: he's doing or he's being so okay. Do you think

1173
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 1: that he's never been so like heater or whatever. That's

1174
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 1: like so anathemator just like loving me. No, he's like

1175
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:07,919
Speaker 1: a runner, Like he's so treadmill. He's treadmill. He's not run.

1176
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 1: He's so I mean, he's so hello, he's so rom

1177
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 1: com like yeah, he's on the phone, on the treadmill,

1178
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 1: on the treadmill, on the bluetooth. And then it's like

1179
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 1: who grabs the towel? And then his wife was like,

1180
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 1: put on a new shirt, don't kiss me with those

1181
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 1: lips where the blue one with the blue tie. She

1182
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 1: keeps me honest. He's always just oh, he's so saying

1183
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 1: that people are like a good judge of character. Oh,

1184
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 1: he's like you know that person in your family who's

1185
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 1: a great judge of character, who can go on jury

1186
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 1: duty and tell if someone's innocent in a second. And

1187
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, who's the fuck? Okay. I have a theory

1188
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 1: that people who always claim that they're a good judge

1189
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 1: of character are actually the worst. She's just like racing psycho,

1190
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 1: like I can fucking tell when someone's a snake, and

1191
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 1: you're like, hmm, that's actually very your ex Well that's

1192
01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 1: what I was immediately refers to people as being cock eye.

1193
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 1: She was always like I knew she was a fucking snake,

1194
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 1: and then like six months later she'd be like, Stephanie's

1195
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 1: actually really cool. Yeah, but that's that restaurant energy. You're

1196
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 1: always judging. You're always judging because it's a fucking go

1197
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 1: go go world and you're under a ton of stress

1198
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 1: and everyone's being so yes chef right. Sorry, I just

1199
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 1: like banged way too hard. Who are you? I think

1200
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:29,439
Speaker 1: I'm Danny Meyers a child? Oh and sneaking pursuto at night? Yeah,

1201
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 1: because okay, what once like snuck out to a deli

1202
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 1: because I don't think I was allowed yet to leave

1203
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 1: thouse without supervision. I remember getting a sub and hiding

1204
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 1: it under my bed because I like didn't want like

1205
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:47,919
Speaker 1: my parents to know, you know, that you'd snuck out. Yeah,

1206
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 1: well you did when you snuck out of the house.

1207
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 1: It was just like getting a big sub and it's like,

1208
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if it'd be so mad. That was

1209
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 1: just a weird sub energy and it's just like this

1210
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 1: oil seeping out of this sub under your back. I

1211
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 1: think it was like good carpet, a blown ky cheese, pickles,

1212
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 1: something going on, Mayo, extra red wine, vinegar. Not you

1213
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 1: remembering this order? Yeah, I mean I remember walking into

1214
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 1: a movie theater once and you bawled a McDonald's cheeseburger

1215
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 1: out of your pocket, so you know old habits. Also

1216
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 1: one time, remember we tried to bring we brought subs

1217
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 1: into a movie theater and the guy was like, oh, like,

1218
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 1: you can't bring food too a movie theater. We're like,

1219
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 1: come on, we're not going to eat these subs. Just

1220
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 1: this was just I was already at okay and you

1221
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 1: and he was like, I guess you're right, Like no

1222
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 1: one would eat a twelve inch up in a theater,

1223
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 1: and then we proceeded to devour this. That was during

1224
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 1: Ocean's Age, Yeah, and that was absolutely we're all in

1225
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 1: and we're conver my scent balsamic. Who am I in

1226
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 1: the book? I mean you're also also Danny my art,

1227
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 1: constantly going on vacations with my parents and like having

1228
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 1: this gay panic and just being like a restaurant needs

1229
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 1: to be like expensive. Um, I could like also see

1230
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 1: myself as just like one of his like many friends

1231
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 1: that he's like he was a really good guy, really

1232
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 1: good pitmaster, and he knew his way around a vineer

1233
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 1: or are we both all the people who diamades in

1234
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 1: eighty nine? That was cool that he did a shout out.

1235
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 1: He was getting very shout out. He was just like,

1236
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 1: we did lose a lot, and you know, and ultimately

1237
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 1: our third like general manager of that restaurant, like Michael

1238
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 1: something like Michaelramano like then also died like succumbed to

1239
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 1: the Advius in etenty nine, like and it was too

1240
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 1: bad that we kept losing people. But I focused on

1241
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 1: my next restaurant, and that's when I got the idea

1242
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 1: for Tablow. Maybe I'm his cousin later in life who

1243
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 1: opened the Blue Standard, the jazz club I had that.

1244
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 1: You were like, you had a jazz club that was struggling,

1245
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 1: that was struggling in some and helped me out and

1246
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 1: was like, what if I buy you out and add

1247
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 1: a restaurant to it? And I'm like, sounds good to me.

1248
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:09,480
Speaker 1: I see that. Wow, So what a book? What an

1249
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 1: incredible journey. I triple recommend if you like food, hospitality,

1250
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 1: if you're into restaurants, if you're into New York City,

1251
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 1: if you're into the rom com, if you like to

1252
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:24,520
Speaker 1: duck in, if you like to duck in, or if

1253
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 1: you like are such a business person and like want

1254
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 1: to learn how to like literally like treat people. Yeah, no,

1255
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:33,439
Speaker 1: for our business listeners, I know, all the business heads

1256
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 1: out there, this is actually a very helpful book, much

1257
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:41,800
Speaker 1: better than some of those fucking dad, poor dad books

1258
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 1: that they I mean, fucking Jack Welch or whatever some

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Speaker 1: asshole like writes some book, because all like business books

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01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 1: are usually honestly pretty worthless and they're just like and

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Speaker 1: they're so boring and impersonal. Yeah, this is like real

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Speaker 1: and these lessons about that are absolutely vital, I mean interesting.

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01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 1: He says. He was like, I absolutely was not going

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01:06:57,520 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 1: to be like such a Trump and do the apprentice

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01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 1: or do an apprentice time and literally and I've never

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01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 1: when I was at USC yesterday, like he gave me

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01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 1: all this wine to try. I was like, I'm kind

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01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 1: of thinking like this or this or this. He was like,

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01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 1: let's try all three. It gave me a generous poor

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01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 1: for three different wines. It was like finish them all.

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01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 1: It's like yes, like and he's saying he loves wine.

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01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 1: It's like what's a share? When you give people more,

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01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 1: it's like you're not going to lose money because like

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01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 1: you're getting way free stuff because they're definitely just going

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01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 1: to come back, right, You're getting repeat customers. That's what

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01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 1: it's about. Don't try and swindle people the first time.

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01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 1: Try and like be extra generous so that will come back.

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01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:35,920
Speaker 1: And you're just being like this one actually you're gonna

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01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 1: love and it's really fun. And that's the bottle that's

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Speaker 1: like sixty two. And like when I said to the

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01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 1: guy yesterday, I like, I have this new thing where

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01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 1: I say that I want a wine that tastes like

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01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:48,959
Speaker 1: it's just been on a hike like that. I wanted

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01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 1: to do we wiry and muscle and a little Okay,

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01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 1: that's very this review of Upstate restaurant Little Deb's wine program,

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01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 1: all the wines are just well they say that like

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01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 1: they don't like when they're at yeah, they are always like, oh,

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01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 1: like what's your favorite like body of water to swim in,

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01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 1: and like that's how they choose the wine what's your

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01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 1: favorite body of water to swim? The ocean? You are?

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01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 1: You're a natural lady like salty and but I love ocean.

1292
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:19,760
Speaker 1: I love getting like fucked by wave. But that's the

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01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 1: only time your bottom. It's true when I'm in you

1294
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 1: want the ocean. I want the ocean and an ideal world.

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01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:28,160
Speaker 1: I want the ocean. And then finished the night off

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01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 1: in the pool. You are. I like to stay wet. Wait, okay,

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Speaker 1: just last thing, Which Danny Meyer restaurant are you? Well?

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01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 1: I'd like to think I'm the modern absolute luxury art

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01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 1: culture midtown bank cats, but maybe I am more of USC.

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01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:53,720
Speaker 1: I think you're a USC, your kid, Hudson, It's like

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01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 1: you're more like gorgeous Caesar salad. You're not. You know, yes,

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01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:01,680
Speaker 1: you're a luxur, but you're not all the time like

1303
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 1: crazy thirty dollars like Japanese whiskey. You know what I

1304
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 1: think you are? And this is actually going to come

1305
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 1: as a surprise, but not what grammars. We haven't oh,

1306
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 1: because I'm like retro. Yeah, and you're like you do

1307
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 1: have like a big propeller and you have so many

1308
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 1: like weird like old little like pet boys, like statues

1309
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:24,760
Speaker 1: and mugs and old signs, and thank you so much

1310
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 1: for sam grammar s to evern and not blue smoke,

1311
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:29,599
Speaker 1: because I'm not a fucking theme park. No, and you're

1312
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 1: I'm just like real antique. You're not a JFK not often. No, no, no,

1313
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 1: I'm more le Guardia. All right. Next week we will

1314
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 1: be reading DJ Steve Aoki and his book The Color

1315
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 1: of Noise. It's actually blue the Color of Noise. Oh

1316
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 1: so I was correct the first time. Well, I thought

1317
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:49,720
Speaker 1: I messed up. No, no, no, no, no, it's just

1318
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 1: called blue the color of Noise. I do kind of

1319
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 1: think it maybe we just should have been called either

1320
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:56,559
Speaker 1: blue or the color of noise. Yeah, I've been as stronger,

1321
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:58,720
Speaker 1: a little more blue as the world's color. We're going

1322
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 1: to get into all that the next episode. We'll say

1323
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:07,599
Speaker 1: they're scintillating title critique until next week. Until then, ladies,

1324
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 1: keep on dancing. Well, thanks for another amazing episode, Lily.

1325
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:14,479
Speaker 1: It's always a pleasure to talk book with you. M M.

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01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 1: You talk such a good book, and we're going to

1327
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 1: do it next week when we read Steve Hookees memoir,

1328
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 1: which just discussed. But seriously, you guys, thank you so much.

1329
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 1: And I'm just gonna put it a little lust there.

1330
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 1: And we know we've been bullying you to write reviews

1331
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 1: and stuff, but here's the deal. And I don't want

1332
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 1: to sound like, you know, a Pollyanna or the opposite

1333
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 1: of a Pollyanna, someone who's Anna p Anna Polly who's

1334
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 1: sort of ringing the alarm bells and being an alarm miss.

1335
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 1: But like we are actually on the verge of being canceled.

1336
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:45,720
Speaker 1: And if you do not tell your friends about us,

1337
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:47,599
Speaker 1: and if you do not spread the word, and if

1338
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:49,679
Speaker 1: you do not print out flyers and post them telephone

1339
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:51,599
Speaker 1: post in your neighborhood, We're just going to be another

1340
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:54,800
Speaker 1: podcast left in the mother chumping dusk. Do you want

1341
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:58,360
Speaker 1: it to see the desiccated carcass of CBC on the

1342
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:01,800
Speaker 1: desert side of the road. And by the way of

1343
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:04,880
Speaker 1: the audios that are coming in another phenomena. Thank you

1344
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:07,600
Speaker 1: so much, And honestly, like our heart goes out to you,

1345
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:09,639
Speaker 1: from the ninety N Club to the seven an Club,

1346
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 1: like from every single club kit out there in the

1347
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:14,000
Speaker 1: club could universe, thank you, Thank you so much. But

1348
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:17,720
Speaker 1: like it is ORTI and like you need to you

1349
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 1: need to get out there and you just frite the

1350
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 1: word thank you, thank you, Oh and also like what's

1351
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:35,840
Speaker 1: you next week? Best Bust, Good Fun Celebrity book Club

1352
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 1: is presented by the Amazing Chef, Prolonged Projects and sous

1353
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:48,080
Speaker 1: Chef Headgum. The show is produced by somalier Meg Murnin,

1354
01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 1: with editorial support from one of my favorite purveyors of

1355
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:58,799
Speaker 1: amazing provisions, Leon Naef Hawk and Andrew Parsons and Madeline Kaplan.

1356
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:06,919
Speaker 1: Our production manager is Percia Verlaine. Her produce is It's shocking,

1357
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 1: honestly engineering by Ferris Munsche. He runs this little restaurant.

1358
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 1: They make the most amazing seafood. Nothing is cooked, Nothing

1359
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 1: is cooked. It's that fresh. Original theme song by Stephen

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01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:24,480
Speaker 1: Phillip's Horst, who is also one of the most cutthroat

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01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 1: restaurant critics in the nation. Artwork by Teddy Blanks at

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01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:32,439
Speaker 1: Chips and why this guy makes a mean Manhattan All right,

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01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:35,680
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Speaker 1: don't forget to tell your friends about us. That was

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Speaker 1: a Hedgum podcast.