1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,199 Speaker 1: You're listening to Bloomberg Business of Sports from Bloomberg Radio. Everyone. 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,120 Speaker 1: I'm Jason Kelly, I'm Mike Lynch, and I'm Michael bar 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: And this is the Bloomberg Business of Sports podcast where 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: we explore the big money issues in the world of sports. Alright, guys, 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 1: the dog days of summer they are upon us. But 6 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: it is an Olympic year after all. But I hate 7 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: to say it, you wouldn't know it by just anecdotally 8 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: talking to a lot of people. There's just not that buzz. 9 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: And that buzz we've talked a little bit about this 10 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: or lack thereof, is really translating into the ratings or 11 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: lack thereof. Now I want to break this down a 12 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: little bit because we do need to talk about a 13 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: much more holistic view of the way people watch and 14 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: consume things. But if you're just going on the numbers 15 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: or about halfway through average nightly viewership through last Tuesday 16 00:00:54,520 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: down forty two percent, yikes from the twenty sixteen UH 17 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: summer games, and that's a tough beat. Lynchy and we've 18 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: talked about maybe why some of it is timing. Some 19 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: of it is timing as it relates to just time zones. 20 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: Some of it is we're supposed to be doing this 21 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: last year. It's not meant to be an Olympic summer. 22 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: Part of it is people are just wanting to get 23 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: the heck out of the house while they can, and 24 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: who knows for how much longer they can. But what 25 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: do you make of it? And and are you watching? Well, 26 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: when I was a kid, there was this ice cream 27 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: parlor called Rolands, and the number one item on the 28 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: menu it was called the Kitchen Sink. And it was 29 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: so big and so overwhelming nobody could I don't think 30 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: anybody in the history of Rolands ice Cream ever finished 31 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: the Kitchen Sink. And to me, the Olympics are just 32 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: too much to consume. There's just so many hours, so 33 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: many different platforms. Am I paying for for an app 34 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: to watch the men's basketball game? Is it on Peacock? 35 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: Is it on the is it streaming? Is it on 36 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: linear television? I don't know. Um, I think that you 37 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: know Ruin Islands and Jim McKay did a soul of 38 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: favor of years ago when every night they condensed twelve 39 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: or fourteen hours of Olympic competition into three hours that 40 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: basically edited for US and said, here's what you need 41 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: to know. I just think it's too much for the 42 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: the total consumer. I think it's just overwhelming. It's almost 43 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: like a tidal wave coming and you just it's coming. 44 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: You can't stop it, you don't know what to do 45 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 1: about it. I want to pick up on that, but 46 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: part to tell me what your experience has been. Well, 47 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: it's a lot like what Lynchi is saying. I mean, 48 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 1: you would watch Franz clamber back in what seventies or so, 49 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: and he's or eighty wherever it was, and he's trying 50 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: to ski and he's going through all this. But everything 51 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 1: was condensed in that prime time viewing moment. And more importantly, 52 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: you didn't have social media back then, so you really 53 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: didn't know who was going to win what, so you 54 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 1: can condense it and you would have three hours of 55 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: great programming. I have to admit I was catching a 56 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: few things. I was catching the men's diving when I 57 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: was watching it, and uh yeah, a shout out by 58 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: the way to Canada's Cedric uh Fafanna. He he just 59 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: had a disastrous moment and and I just want to 60 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: say a shout out to him, because you know, even 61 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: when you have a moment and it's as bad as 62 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: I'll get up, you still try. Yeah, that was an 63 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: interesting moment to watch. And so here's my more positive take, 64 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: which is, I think we are at an inflection point 65 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: when it comes to consumption, and I think we're looking 66 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: at the ratings and saying people aren't watching this on TV. 67 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: People aren't watching TV in the same way and anymore. 68 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: And I do think you are having these moments. And 69 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: you guys both alluded to to social media. I think 70 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: that has totally changed the game. And and Lynch, you 71 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: one of the things that you said about, you know, 72 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: sort of distilling it down. Instead of TV executive deciding 73 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: what that's going to be, we essentially have Twitter and 74 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: Snapchat and Instagram. I think is probably the best iteration 75 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: of this. In many ways, that's how people are consuming this. 76 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: That's how people are sort of falling in love with 77 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: some of these athletes and seeing their stories. I think 78 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: the problem is is that the economics have not It's 79 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: not just the economics, but the business model hasn't caught 80 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: up with this yet. And I do wonder whether we're 81 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 1: gonna look back at this period and maybe even this 82 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: particular Olympics as a real turning point here where they 83 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: just realized that something is changing in terms of the 84 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 1: culture as it were, and we're just not consuming it 85 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: in the same way that we were. And this was 86 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,559 Speaker 1: the real wake up call of like, by the way, guys, 87 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: people aren't tuning in there, this isn't this just isn't 88 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: the way we used to do it. Um So, I 89 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: don't know, but if you're in the business of this, Lynchy, 90 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 1: I don't know how you pivot in some ways, because yes, 91 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: as you said, um Comcast is putting this on Peacock, 92 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: but Peacock is at least for the moment, kind of 93 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: also ran in the streaming wars. And so do you 94 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: just have to think about out if you're the io C, 95 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: do you start doing deals with Twitter and some of 96 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: the other social media platforms in order to make this 97 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: work economically, Because if I'm a broadcaster and I'm looking 98 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: down the line, there's no way I'm going to pay 99 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: for this. I don't think I can make money doing it. Well, 100 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: look at the National Football League has done. They brought 101 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: in all kinds of different platforms, and then the National 102 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: Hockey League with their new deal, they brought in different 103 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: platforms as well. Major League Baseball is doing something this 104 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 1: year as well. Uh, they're putting games on Amazon, They're 105 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: putting some games on YouTube. And perhaps that is the 106 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: model that the IOC will look at, or NBC will 107 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: look at, because NBC owns the Olympics now through two, 108 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: I believe, and uh, I think they have to look 109 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: at and see if this makes sense. However, they did 110 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: make money in Rio de jan Narrow, but I don't 111 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: Obviously they're not going to make much money here. And 112 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: as they say in the business, there's gonna be a 113 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: lot of make goods going around the next the next 114 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,799 Speaker 1: year's on NBC. Yeah, it's interest. That's an interesting idea 115 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: that if they have this, do they go and essentially 116 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: it's almost like they're gonna sublet some of it. They're 117 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: all it's almost like they're gonna go to one of 118 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: these platforms and maybe by the time the next Olympics 119 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: rolls around, there's a platform that hasn't even really been 120 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: introduced yet that becomes something, uh, some some way for 121 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: for people to watch this. So this actually leads to 122 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: something that that I wanted to make sure we talked about, 123 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 1: which is John Skipper, who we all know and many 124 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: of us really admire for what he did with ESPN 125 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 1: over the years. He subsequently went to the Zone and 126 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: was working on that uh, which is, you know, an 127 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: interesting sort of media platform for sports. I'm not sure 128 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: it's taken off in the way that they expected it to. 129 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: Now he's really investing in in a lot of startups 130 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: He's got because everyone's got his back. He's got his back. 131 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: Um this firm, meadow Lark. He gave a an interview 132 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: where he talked about and this thing just blew up. 133 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: Talking about blowing up on social media. The nut of 134 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: it was essentially the super Bowl at some point in time, 135 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 1: probably not next year, probably not in the next five years, 136 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: but it's going to be a pay per view event. 137 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: That may be the way we end up watching this 138 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: and consuming it. Michael Barr, I'm gonna I'm gonna use 139 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: one of your lines, your thoughts. Well, here's my thought. 140 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: Hell no, I'm not going to watch any the super 141 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: Bowl on pay per view. No, that's what's gonna kill 142 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: the whole thing. The whole point of the Super Bowl 143 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: is that one you can also see the ads, which 144 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: the ads and that makes news itself and and everybody. 145 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: You've got the super Bowl parties and you have this 146 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: going on, and there's a lot of money that was 147 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: made during those Super Bowl ads, and now all of 148 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: a sudden, we want to get more greedy and now 149 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: we want a pay per view for the super Bowl. Really, 150 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: then you better offer me something fifty yards seats, or 151 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: you better give me some sort of isolated camera to 152 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: make this worth my while, because I am totally against this. Right, everybody, seriously, 153 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: get off his lawn, and I just get off his lawn. 154 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: He he tried to be nice about it, but nice 155 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: as you gotta. You just get onto the sidewalk, um, 156 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: all right? Lynch Michael Michael Michael cool that baby? That 157 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: cool him off? Well, you cool drink. Remember when cable 158 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: came in in the eighties and it says, oh, I'm 159 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: not gonna pay no one to ever pay for anything 160 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: that they have been getting for free. No one's gonna 161 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: pay to watch a baseball game when they've been getting 162 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: it free. Well guess what, we did pay for it, 163 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: and we've been paying for it and we're going to 164 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: continue to pay for it. And that's just the way 165 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: the world is. So would you pay twenty dollars to 166 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: watch the Super Bowl? Would you pay a hundred dollars 167 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: to watch the Super Bowl? I probably would because I've 168 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: paid money to watch fights, which I thought were gigantic 169 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: rip offs most of them, and I said, what don't 170 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: I just pays? So this was horrible. I think the 171 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 1: super Bowl would be good entertainment. And first of all, 172 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: most people have Super Bowl parties. So when you pass 173 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: the hat, when everybody comes in and probably cost everybody 174 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 1: about a dollar to watch it, Yeah, I gotta say, 175 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: I'm I love your reaction. I love it when you 176 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: get hot. Michael Barr like, this is it takes a 177 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: lot um so because I looked at this candidly and 178 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, this totally makes sense, this is 179 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 1: this is absolutely gonna happen. So but here's the thing. 180 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: So let's go at level down. Throw it back to you, bar, 181 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: because I want to get you revved up again. Um So, 182 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: first of all, what if there were no ads? So 183 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: then so then you get to watch both teams on 184 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: the sidelines as we have a time outbreak. Look, since 185 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: nineteen sixties seven, it wasn't even called super Bowl, black man, 186 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: it was just you know, the World Championship back then, 187 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: we it was on two blasted networks, It was on 188 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: two for free, it was on CBS, and it was 189 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: on NBC. And and now I'm telling you this is 190 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: all about greed. And no, no, I am not paying 191 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: to watch the super Bowl. That's somebody's got to invite 192 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: bar over to watch the Super Bowl at their house 193 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: coming up, because he's not going to pay for it. 194 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: So just make sure you have the right kind of 195 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: dips and chips and like get him a recliner maybe 196 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: away from other people, um, because he's coming in, because 197 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: he's coming and fired up. But so lynchy, you know. Again, 198 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: like I feel like this is this is a natural evolution. 199 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: And maybe it's because you have been thinking a lot 200 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: about as you guys know, the UFC lately sort of 201 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: understanding their their business model that is strictly pay per view. 202 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: And I will tell you know, it's like I think 203 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: about my kids, my teenagers, who they are coming of 204 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 1: age at a point where different from even the generation 205 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: just ahead of them, they're very comfortable paying for things. 206 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:56,719 Speaker 1: They're very comfortable paying for content. They expect that subscriptions 207 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:00,199 Speaker 1: are going to be part of their part of their life. Um. 208 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: I I see this. I see the NFL figuring out 209 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: a way maybe to test this. Uh you know, maybe 210 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: there are some behind the scenes things that that you 211 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:14,199 Speaker 1: can get initially, but the ultimate broadcast is for free 212 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: for for a few years. I just I think skippers, right. 213 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: I think this is this is potentially where we're headed, 214 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: um and and part of it is because they have 215 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: to figure out a different way to make money. I mean, 216 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: this is in the just going back to the earlier point, 217 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: this is in the absence of advertisers being willing to pay, 218 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: which I think we're not there yet, but I do. 219 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: I do think this is where the world is headed. 220 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: Lunching Well, ratings are going down on the super Bowl, 221 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: but ad rage continue to rise. And let's just say 222 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,839 Speaker 1: a hundred million people watch the super Bowl at twenty 223 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: bucks a pop. That's two billion dollars right there. Yeah, 224 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: that's half the makes up half the deficit that they 225 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: lost last year during the during the COVID or of UM. 226 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: I never thought I'd see that when the Super Bowl 227 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: would be on cable television like ESPN or t N 228 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: T or t B S or something like that. So 229 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: it looks like they're gonna skip right over the cable 230 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: game being broadcast on cable and go right to pay 231 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: per view. I do think either, I'm not crazy about it. Um, 232 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: I will not throw a hissy fit like Bar did. 233 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: I would say, you know, this is the way of 234 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: the world. And even if if if the Lions are 235 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: playing in it, and he says that he's not going 236 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: to watch the super Bowl, then he's you know, he's serious. Yeah, 237 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: you will know. Okay, will not watch it in my house. 238 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: I will not watch. I will pay pay per view, 239 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: Michael Barr, and I will send I will send a 240 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: car to pick you up and you come over to 241 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: my house and you can watch it and we can 242 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: all have with where I like Mike Buttons, and we 243 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: can have a nice afternoon. Yeah, exactly, exactly so interesting 244 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: to see. Um. Listen, I did not I did not 245 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: expect this to get so hot. I love it. I'm 246 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: here for it. And now I sort of wanted on 247 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: pay per view because I just want to see just 248 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: want to exactly, I just want to see Bar lose 249 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: his mind with what's going on. I mean, listen, I 250 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: think we're seeing this across you know, a lot of 251 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: sports trying to figure out how they make money, what 252 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: their broadcast deals are. I think about our friend Paul 253 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: Rabel over at the PLL, the Premier Lacrosse League. You know, 254 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: they've been experimenting with a lot of brought you know, 255 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: sort of linear broadcast cable. Uh, you know, individual channels 256 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: pay per view in insofar as kind of packages that 257 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: that you can buy. So I do think people are 258 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 1: testing this on the edges, and I do think it's 259 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: part and parcel with what we talked about with Olympic ratings, 260 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: which is, if you, you know, if you're really committed 261 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 1: to watching a certain sport or a certain athlete or 262 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: whatever that may be, uh, you're likely willing to to pay. 263 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 1: I do think though, that Lynchy, there are I mean 264 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 1: not that that you know, Michael Barr is a unicorn 265 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: in so many ways. Um, but I do think there 266 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: are a lot of people out there who, I do 267 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: think you represent a big portion of the viewing public 268 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: of a certain generation especially, who are like this is bananas, 269 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: Like I can't even imagine how this would even work. 270 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: And yet I dare say that there's a cohort that's 271 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: like yeah, all right, fine, yeah, but why listen? Now? 272 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: Keep it. God, I am listen, and I'm obviously wait. 273 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: I want to say about John Skipper, by the way, 274 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: because he's way smarter in sports than I am, and 275 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: he's and he's probably right, this is probably the way 276 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: it's going to go. What I want to know is, well, 277 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: if the ratings are going down, why do you want 278 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: to put it on pay per view when the first 279 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: egg on place? You know, it's the half the fun 280 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: that people the casual fan. There's the person that comes 281 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: by the house and he or she does not know 282 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: a look about football, but more they want to see 283 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: those Budweiser ads. I mean, we we do stories every 284 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: year about the ads. Right now, that's gonna be blown 285 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: up the smithereens, And I look, it's why why? But 286 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: I think you hit on it. I mean I think, 287 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: as I understand it at least, and Lyncha keep me 288 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: honest here, as I understand it. One of the reasons 289 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: he's saying this is because if yourship does go down, 290 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: then the ad rates are going to go down, and 291 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: so then the economics get and there is an element 292 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: of greed. You're exactly right, Um, they want to keep 293 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: making a lot of money on this big game that 294 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: so many people watch, and so if the ad rates 295 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: keep going down, they need to offset that in some 296 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: ways and in many ways, the entire notion of how 297 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: we consume the super Bowl right now, through super Bowl 298 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: parties and whatnot, actually a cruise to the benefit here, 299 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: because you do, because that's how and Lynch, I think 300 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: you've had this experience. I think we've all had this experience. 301 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: It's like who's ordering the fight? You know, like we're 302 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: going over to somebody's house and you know, whatever that 303 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: cost is going to be. You know they're gonna eat it. 304 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna bring my guacamole, and you know, bar 305 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: is going to bring his. I'm trying to think what 306 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: it would be, what it would be in in uh 307 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: in pencil with blindfold, Like the Pennsylvania beer I just 308 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: had it. Oh you you're oh yeah, yeah, I know. 309 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: You give me a moment, it'll come anyway. So you know, 310 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: you bring it. You know, you bring some beers over. 311 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: You know, Lynchy has that that nine bean salad that 312 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: he's so good at making, and you know the dip 313 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: that everybody loves. But you know, that's how we consume it. 314 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: So I just I think it's a fascinating um thing 315 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: to explore. And and you're right, don't sleep on John Skipper. 316 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, and I know, look, yes, trying to think 317 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: of thank you, that's what it was. It's it's one 318 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: thing if you're trying to see a fight, because it's 319 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: you know, okay, you want to see this fight. Blah 320 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. The super Bowl is more than 321 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 1: just a game. It has become an icon in our society. 322 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: It has become a way that we just live. It's 323 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:15,360 Speaker 1: we the casual fan knows the super Bowl, right, And 324 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: and if you're a casual fan, why why will they 325 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 1: pay for this? I just I don't understand it. And 326 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: you're gonna blow the whole thing up. I'm sorry. Alright, alright, well, uh, 327 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: to be determined. I mean, we'll see if John Skipper 328 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: is right. And you know, Michael Barr is gonna have 329 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: some things to say already, spoken like a Patriot fan, 330 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: I tell you, all right. So this is also the 331 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 1: time of year where we see a lot of movement 332 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: and in terms of players you know, signing not signing. 333 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 1: They had the NBA Draft um last week, not nearly. 334 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: I have to say as exciting as some of the 335 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 1: previous few drafts because they're just hasn't there wasn't this 336 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 1: like blocked by stir star like a Zion or someone. Uh, 337 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 1: coming out even Anthony Edwards. Uh, you know, coming out 338 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: of Georgia, there was nobody who you really other than Cunningham, 339 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 1: who who people were really excited about. But there is 340 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 1: some movement afoot. It feels like and Kawhi Leonard. Uh 341 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: this of course he of course one of the best 342 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: known players in the league right now, an NBA champion 343 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: a few years back with the Toronto Raptors, moved out 344 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: to l A to play for the Clippers. Uh. The 345 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: Clippers haven't been everything that I think their owner, Steve 346 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: Bamber hoped that they would be, at least in terms 347 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: of moving along the playoffs at pretty early exit. Uh 348 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 1: this year, Kwhi Leonard maybe the Kevin Durant of this 349 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: uh latest round, because he turned down his player optioned 350 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: for the Clippers thirty six million bucks. It's going to 351 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,959 Speaker 1: be a free agent. Uh. This is I mean, this 352 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 1: is pro basketball at this point. Lynchie. I mean, I 353 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: don't know where he ends up going. I know there's 354 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: a lot of speculation, but the fact that he looks 355 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: like he's not gonna stay just is not that surprising. 356 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: He can stay if he wants. He can sign a 357 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: four year, a hundred and seventy six million dollar deal, 358 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: which would getting net him net him will gross forty 359 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: four million a year. But you know this, it bothers 360 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: me about the league is that the players almost it's 361 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 1: like picking up sides down at the playground. Look what 362 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: happened in Brooklyn. Uh, look what happened in Miami when 363 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: Lebron went down. They Look what happened in Los Angeles? 364 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: When um still happening in Los Angeles and it's still 365 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: the Lakers with Westbrook and and all that happening. Yeah. Yeah, 366 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: So it's like, okay, we can pick up us. Basically, 367 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: we went a buck up and pick sides, and you 368 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: know that the strong will survive if we're for some 369 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: injuries or half the size of sneaker shoe with on 370 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant, who knows the nets might have been in 371 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 1: the NBA Finals. Well that's a really interesting but I'm 372 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 1: glad you brought that up because that's what I was 373 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 1: thinking that you know, this notion of like, oh, these 374 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: super teams don't work. It's like, well, that super team 375 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: really came very very close to close to working. And 376 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: I think it's safe to say that if the if 377 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: the Nets got in, they would have been very competitive 378 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 1: in that final and and might have taken the crown 379 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 1: instead of the Bucks. And and and of course now 380 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: you have the storyline by by dint of that, like 381 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 1: large sneaker being the difference, you have this storyline. Well, 382 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 1: the Bucks did it the right way, and you know, 383 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: they built this team and they had the superstar, but 384 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 1: then they sort of grew up this team around him. 385 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: I don't think we have seen the last of these 386 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 1: super teams. And so where Kawai goes next, I think, uh, 387 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 1: we'll have a big impact on on how we continue 388 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: to think about that. Uh. And I know, Bar we've 389 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: talked about this before, this notion that Lynchy alluded to 390 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 1: that you know, you don't have these these franchise players 391 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: the way that that you used to. That's for sure. 392 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 1: I mean, and the NBA seems to be the leading 393 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: league for better worse when it comes to kind of 394 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 1: assembling and reassembling and sort of the playground approach is 395 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: like she said, in the old days you the players 396 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 1: went where the owners told them they were going to go, 397 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: they were going to be traded. There was none of this, hey, 398 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: but there was none of that. It was like, Okay, 399 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: it's been real, see you later. And now, obviously the 400 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: players have a lot of say about what they're going 401 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 1: to do, and I think that is evolved big time 402 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: in the game. And you know, my motto is like, 403 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: if you're an athlete, get as much money as you can. 404 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 1: Why you can. And I think that's part of why 405 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard is doing this. Yeah. Yeah, so we'll see 406 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: um where he ends up. Obviously he's hurt right now, 407 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 1: so we don't know exactly when he'll be back. And 408 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 1: and so that figures into the economics and the business 409 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 1: plan as it were, of whatever team is going to 410 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 1: pick him up, and who knows, maybe he ends up 411 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: staying with the Clippers. You know, again, don't don't underestimate 412 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: that ownership group, and and obviously some of the power 413 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: of the l A market, etcetera, etcetera. But UM certainly 414 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: went to keep an eye on uh, speaking of trades, 415 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: as we wrap up here MLB last week, it was 416 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: hard to keep up Lynch and the one story that 417 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: really jumped out to me was the Nationals being like, 418 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: all right, we're done, goodbye, Like get out, Like who's 419 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: who was this guy? Who's this guy? I mean, you know, 420 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: the Dodgers get stronger and the Nationals really just hung 421 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: it up. Really amazing to watch. I'm not sure anybody 422 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 1: predicted the ferocity of that. Well. A lot of people 423 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: will say, what are they doing? They're only six six 424 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: and a half games out of first place. But most 425 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: of the people that they traded, uh, we're contracts that 426 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 1: were expiring. In fact, the sixteen people that moved around 427 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 1: had contracts expiring from Washington. The Cubs had eleven of 428 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: them with expiring contracts. The thing that really dazzled me, though, 429 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: was that I looked at all these names. I said, Wow, 430 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 1: a couple of guys to go into the Hall of Fame. 431 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,239 Speaker 1: Some of these guys are All Stars. I looked it up. 432 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: Nine guys who were traded by the trading deadline played 433 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: in this year's All Star Game. Wow, hard to believe, 434 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: isn't it. That's amazing. That's a great stine. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 435 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,439 Speaker 1: um so a lot of movement, and we'll see what 436 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: sort of difference it makes down the stretch. I mean, 437 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: obviously here in the New York area, there's a lot 438 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: of emphasis on on what's going on in in Stevie 439 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 1: cohen Land. I was with some Mets fans over the weekend, 440 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, they, as much as Mets fans 441 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 1: can be sort of cautially optimistic about some of the 442 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: moves they're making, ready for their hearts to be broken 443 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: all over again. I have to say one of my 444 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 1: favorite current gifts to people is the terrific book we 445 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: have the author on a few months ago, So Many 446 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 1: Ways to Lose. It's such a great read, and any 447 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: Mets fan that I either tell about it or give 448 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: it to as soon as they even look at or 449 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: to start reading, they go, yeah, that's about Ryan. Yeah 450 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: that checks out, checks out. But yeah, a lot of 451 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:01,360 Speaker 1: good baseball still to come, obviously, but it was it 452 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: was bananas bananas to watch, to say the least. This 453 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: is the Bloomberg Business of Sports podcast. I'm Michael Barn. 454 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: I'm still mad as hell on Twitter at Big Bar Sports. 455 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 1: The invitation will always be there from Michael Barr. You 456 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: can come watch the Super Bowl with Lynchy anytime. We 457 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: can never have enough mikes in the house, and I'm 458 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 1: Mike Lynch. You can follow me at Lynch w CVB 459 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: and find me at Jason Kelly News. 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