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Speaker 1: It feels weird, right should we be honest here? Like,

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Speaker 1: let's be transparent to the for the world for a second,

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Speaker 1: you know, because obviously last year at this time, I'm

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Speaker 1: I was still working for the Four Letters, right, so

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Speaker 1: you know, I was I've been doing that for what

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Speaker 1: six years? So, like I was in such a routine

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Speaker 1: that it's like, okay, the minute that every year, the

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Speaker 1: minute the NFL season stopped, I immediately went into hardcore

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Speaker 1: college basketball coverage for UCE, Like I had a routine.

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Speaker 1: I knew exactly what was happening now, you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: working for Yahoo and for us right and it was

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Speaker 1: it was funny to me because I flew back from

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl on Monday, and it's first time in

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Speaker 1: this industry that I've had to look around and be like,

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Speaker 1: all right, so what what what?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 4: What am I.

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Speaker 1: Focusing on now? Because so much of my Yahoo work

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Speaker 1: is based around NFL and college football. I found myself

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Speaker 1: just sitting there, I think it was Tuesday or Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, guys, what do we want to

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Speaker 1: do now? Like, so it's funny. There is this little

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Speaker 1: bit I feel like a lost puppy right now. I

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Speaker 1: feel I feel a little like like like a puppy.

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Speaker 1: I'm a puppy.

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Speaker 2: You are a puppy fighting, and I'm a whipering dog. Yes, dude,

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Speaker 2: eight it sucks. It sucks, dude. It just does without

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Speaker 2: without the you know, you gotta get used to it.

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Speaker 2: Like it's it's this whole rhythm of the calendar, you

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Like you touched on it with

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Speaker 2: you know, you had your routine, you had, you were

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Speaker 2: able to fall back on. You dove right back into

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Speaker 2: college basketball. I like, this is the worst time of

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Speaker 2: the year, Like I hate this time of the year.

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Speaker 2: I used to you know, figure you'll laugh, and because

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Speaker 2: I used to rail on it all the time because

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Speaker 2: this it's so dead, like look at you got college

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Speaker 2: basketball games, but come here ask you all right, because

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Speaker 2: you know you covered college ball for a long time.

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Speaker 2: It's this is the This is also the period in

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Speaker 2: college basketball where you know you've been going at it

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Speaker 2: for a bit and now you're trying to find a

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Speaker 2: rhythm before the tournament.

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Speaker 3: And it's I don't know, it's it just sucks.

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Speaker 1: This and you're right, it does. There's a couple of

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Speaker 1: things that I say every year at the end of

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Speaker 1: football season that I still don't understand. Like if I

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Speaker 1: was the czar of college basketball, I would certainly on

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Speaker 1: Sunday at one o'clock Eastern and four o'clock Eastern, I

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Speaker 1: would put the biggest brand names. I don't care about

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Speaker 1: conference play right now. I care about getting people sucked

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Speaker 1: into my game, right So I would put the biggest

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Speaker 1: brand names, the biggest blue bloods that I possibly could,

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Speaker 1: and some sort of a matchup Sunday at one and

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Speaker 1: sure that all of the people that have spent months

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Speaker 1: see it. But then the other part of it is,

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Speaker 1: to be honest, is somebody that loves college basketball. I'll

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Speaker 1: be covering it some for Yahoo. I do enjoy the

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Speaker 1: sport I can, and I'm living ten minutes from Yukon,

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Speaker 1: who today plays Marquette in a top five matchup from

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Speaker 2: Niche goes Yukon, Oh look, yeah, I mean that's the

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Speaker 2: matchup of the matchup for the young I'm gonna told

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Speaker 2: me my niece me and she's a freshman at Yukon.

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Speaker 1: Cool, No she needs anything. Just you know, you got

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Speaker 1: an extension of the family. I'm fifteen minutes from there, right,

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Speaker 1: That's awesome, But there is I mean, just to put

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Speaker 1: it frankly, there's no sex appeal to Yukon Marquette to

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Speaker 1: want to hear names like Duke in North Carolina and Kansas.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't matter if they're good or not. That's just what

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Speaker 1: the games that should hit, they follow little flat the

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Speaker 1: but it falls flat. Used to it did.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like yukon.

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Speaker 2: You, I don't know, dude, And I don't know if

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Speaker 2: it's more age or whatever it is, but you know, know.

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Speaker 3: Calhoun kofskis. Somehow when it was all.

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Speaker 2: The coach ks and you know, did Jay Wrights and

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Speaker 3: Don't know, it just felt bigger than it does now.

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Speaker 1: The coaching personalities were entrenched. And then I mean we

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Speaker 1: Caitlyn Clark and how she resonates because she's been there

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Speaker 1: an element of that, Like I grew up. I've got

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Speaker 1: damage to that is that college basketball just doesn't resonate

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Speaker 1: year's a complete restart and the coaches don't have the

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Speaker 1: not falling in love with Tark and Larry Johnson, Stacy

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Speaker 1: with that team year after I'm not looking at it saying, man,

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Speaker 1: So now it's just like every year you're looking at

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Speaker 1: I can't even I hate Duke And I can't even

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Speaker 2: I know That's what sucks about it. Honestly, there is

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Speaker 2: there was. It had characters like the sport. Well, let's

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Speaker 2: face it, you know, entertainment's built off the Marvel you

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Speaker 3: You don't really have it now. I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: No, And you know what you mentioned Marvel. I always say,

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Speaker 1: And for years that was pretty definable by coaches in

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Speaker 1: college And I think college football is gonna go through

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Speaker 1: The world's against us, the world is supporting us, like

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Speaker 1: you know, across the board, there are certainly personalities to

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Speaker 1: don't know that we as a community yet know who

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Speaker 1: Like Grayson Allen still is polarizing in the NBA in

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Speaker 1: person that people flock to and they turn it on

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Speaker 1: polarizing and that just doesn't exist right now at all

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Speaker 2: It's strange because I think both college basketball and the

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Speaker 2: NBA are going through And it's NBA All Star weekend,

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Speaker 2: right and they're both going through some sort of identity crisis.

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Speaker 2: You know, obviously the college basketball more than the NBA,

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Speaker 2: sports are perceived. Let's bring our main man, Kevin Figures,

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Speaker 3: Good morning, Figgy, morning guys.

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Speaker 5: It's going on, buddy, you know you guys have a

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Speaker 5: point about college basketball and you know, not having likable figures,

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Speaker 5: But again you contempt or love is built on familiarity

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Speaker 5: what you just don't have. I think even more so

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Speaker 5: without that, to you guys's point, when you don't have

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Speaker 5: players so you even know, even on your blue blood rosters,

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Speaker 5: like how many cans of Jayows can you name right now?

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Speaker 5: You know that's the problem. Like we know Zach Edie

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Speaker 5: but he's quiet, doesn't say much, Big Lumbering, it's not

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Speaker 5: really much to hate, you know what I mean? Yu

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Speaker 5: You know that that's really the crux of the issue

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Speaker 5: when it comes to college basketball. You can't learn to

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Speaker 5: love or hate anybody because you don't know who anybody is.

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Speaker 5: Like Fit said, even as much as people love to

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Speaker 1: I mean a Connecticut's on the vert right now, the

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Speaker 1: number one team in the country and then are defending

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Speaker 1: be blunt for a second, like we care because we

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Speaker 1: love sports. But how many people are flocking to the

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, we get back to back champions in

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Speaker 1: college basketball?

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Speaker 6: Yeah that used to much. How say that though? How

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Speaker 6: crazy that is?

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Speaker 5: How how infrequently that happens, and yet how it's getting

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Speaker 5: very little press and very few people even knew about it.

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Speaker 6: That that's wild to me.

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Speaker 1: See what you.

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Speaker 3: It's exactly what you said, which is.

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Speaker 2: Most people, most sports fans just don't know the players.

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Speaker 2: They just they don't know it. And any sport, this

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Speaker 2: is the problem with it that you got to work

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Speaker 2: every year.

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Speaker 3: It's different.

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Speaker 2: It's it's too much work, right, Like you got to

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back, Fellas and Saturday after the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Always this kind of tone with us coming a lot

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Speaker 2: what you were saying, FITZI. When it comes to the association,

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Speaker 3: The NBA has that wwe thing.

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Speaker 2: You just got done talking about college basketball trying to

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Speaker 2: Like it's funny when you were talking about baseball Fitsie,

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Speaker 1: And that's when I say you don't want to become baseball.

436
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Speaker 1: It's because there's a very passionate group of people that

437
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Speaker 1: are out there that love it, that cannot wait, you know,

438
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:21,200
Speaker 1: for for every single pitch. And then there's.

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Speaker 3: Y be honest with you, like I got it spring training.

440
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Speaker 1: It's see like that, and that doesn't that doesn't surprise me.

441
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Speaker 1: You you love the sport, right, And so I think

442
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 1: for a lot of fans, they look at it when

443
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,640
Speaker 1: they hear these conversations, well, how do you fix baseball?

444
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,440
Speaker 1: They roll their eyes because it doesn't need to be fixed.

445
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,680
Speaker 1: I see so much of that same thing happening here

446
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,160
Speaker 1: because what we ask in baseball is, well, why isn't

447
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,680
Speaker 1: there better sales of the stars? Like why why is

448
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 1: there not a higher Q rating of everybody? Why are

449
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,680
Speaker 1: we not talking about big soap operas? Because it's easier

450
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 1: to talk about a soap opera on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday

451
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 1: than it is to sit there, whether you're on radio

452
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Speaker 1: or on TV or sitting there with your buddy in

453
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Speaker 1: a sports bar. How many people are deep diving, you know,

454
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,479
Speaker 1: the motion in the offense of an NBA game, right Like,

455
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 1: it just doesn't happen that often. So to the point

456
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 1: that I was making before the break, like I was

457
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 1: looking at it saying, hey, this is a great week

458
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 1: for the NBA. I think they do a smart thing.

459
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 1: You put the most casual thing in the world with

460
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 1: the All Star Game there your mind, everybody, how great

461
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 1: the stars are? They got some cool events with the

462
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,400
Speaker 1: All Star Game. I see they're doing a nice job

463
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 1: of selling the sizzle with this this weekend. It's fine,

464
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 1: but the whole week, having the dominated conversation be well,

465
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Speaker 1: or the dominant conversation be you know, the Warriors and

466
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 1: Lebron almost happened. So a trade, a phone call that

467
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 1: was made about possibly just just testing the waters on

468
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Speaker 1: you know, one of the biggest names in the world

469
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 1: in any sport. That one phone call generated hours and

470
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Speaker 1: days of content, and not first second of that was

471
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Speaker 1: anybody really talking about the games that were actually going on.

472
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 1: So like, that's the whole problem with the NBA. That's

473
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Speaker 1: just the regular You don't actually talk about the action.

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00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 2: Right and the regular season is a big issue because

475
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 2: and I they you know, to their credit, they know it,

476
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Speaker 2: which is why the whole mid season tournament or wherever

477
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 2: it was, that early season tournament was brought into it

478
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 2: was given life because they're looking for something to kind

479
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Speaker 2: of cleave to.

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Speaker 3: Now, I don't know, did you like the tournament?

481
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Speaker 1: No, I mean I thought it was they found a

482
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Speaker 1: way to make it interesting though, I'll say this, yeah,

483
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Speaker 1: to that point, as I say, I didn't like it,

484
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 1: I didn't really care about it, but it created conversation

485
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Speaker 1: about actual games. They really did that, you know.

486
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Speaker 2: So that I agree. I like, I thought the same

487
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 2: thing and I liked it. I liked it. I wish

488
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 2: it would happen now. But the problem is it's too closer.

489
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,160
Speaker 2: It's too close to the playoffs, which again goes back

490
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Speaker 2: to I I really think they should start it in Thanksgiving.

491
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 2: If you could push it back to Thanksgiving, you could

492
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Speaker 2: have the uh or I think December first same.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're still being kind of the name. I

494
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Speaker 1: would start it on Christmas Day. I make the tip

495
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Speaker 1: off in the entire season.

496
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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, listen, that would be a perfect

497
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 2: world for me, because then you could have you could

498
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 2: come out of the Super Bowl with the you know,

499
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Speaker 2: with this mid season tournament, and then go right into

500
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Speaker 2: All Star Break and then finish the season and then

501
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 2: maybe people are watching games. It's just again, October is

502
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 2: so crowded, and when you're talking about NFL and college football,

503
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Speaker 2: I just don't know how you compete.

504
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think you do. And I

505
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 1: think the problem with part of that is that NBA

506
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 1: fans are like, we don't have to worry about that, Like,

507
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 1: if you want it, you're gonna watch it, which is

508
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 1: the same thing college basketball fans say, which is the

509
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 1: same reason that college basketball I mean, a lot of

510
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: these games that we see on the weekends, they're not

511
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: getting many more views than a repeat of first take

512
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: is on the four letters, right, So you start thinking

513
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 1: about how many people are actually watching this, and we

514
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: live in a world where like, if I'm watching it,

515
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,640
Speaker 1: then that's all that matters, Like that's how everybody wants

516
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 1: to feel about it. But when you are competing with

517
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: so many cultural phenomenon moments that are happening in the NFL,

518
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: along with games that matter, and I think your point

519
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,919
Speaker 1: there is a really important one, Like at the end

520
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 1: of the day when we start talking about football. Yes,

521
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 1: we might spend one or two days a week talking

522
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 1: about the drama of Aaron Rodgers, and that's its own thing,

523
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: but through all of it, we are still talking about

524
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: the actual Oh my god, I can't believe this guy

525
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 1: didn't play well in this game, and I can't believe

526
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: this guy didn't do this in this moment. This coach

527
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,439
Speaker 1: stinks because of that. In the NBA, we've seen coaches

528
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,199
Speaker 1: hired and fired this year on prominent. I mean the

529
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,439
Speaker 1: fact that the Bucks made a coaching change and it

530
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 1: barely made a ripple in the news cycle.

531
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 2: That series who's coached every team in the league. It's

532
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 2: in Milwaukee. It's it's wild and and.

533
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 3: The you know, it's akin to that.

534
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 2: Most people miss the beginning of the movie. So the

535
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 2: beginning of the season is the beginning of the movie.

536
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 2: And it feels like most people unless you know, in

537
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 2: fairness you're people like us who have to devote the

538
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 2: time to it because it's kind of our profession. Then

539
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 2: that's you know, most people miss the beginning of the movie.

540
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: And then what do you do? How do you get somebody?

541
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: There's a reason to that point. I love your analogy

542
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 1: with the movie. There's a reason why when you are

543
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 1: streaming something it always starts with previously on right R

544
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: They're trying to catch you up, and yes, you know

545
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: that's just.

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00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 3: The rail you watch the NBA.

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00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: I mean, they were this sort of element for me

548
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: where I'm like, I don't know, is is the NBA.

549
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 1: Does the NBA need to put like next level Chef

550
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: gives me a recap of every run.

551
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 3: The recap this in the first half of the seaton.

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00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 5: It's also a little bit like it's it seems like

553
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 5: it's a giant problem, but when you really look at

554
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 5: the brass tacks of it, Like, is it like their

555
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 5: TV contract is going to be up and they're getting

556
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 5: ready to They're on the verge of potentially doubling that number.

557
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 5: It's not going down. Their social media engagement is up.

558
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 5: Their TV ratings were up last year, highest since twenty nineteen.

559
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 5: In Stadium attendance was the highest it had ever been

560
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 5: last season. I know what you say. It might appeal

561
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 5: to diehards and you might lose casuals here and there,

562
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 5: But as far as how it's actually affecting their bottom line,

563
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 5: it kind of isn't. So while we view it as

564
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 5: an issue, it really might not be an issue from

565
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 5: their standpoint.

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00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 2: Wow, I mean you know, I mean honestly fake. I mean,

567
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 2: you know, if you're in sports business, life is good.

568
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 5: Correct, because you're the only you're only thing in you know,

569
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 5: live sports is the only thing that the only thing

570
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 5: keeping the cable industry, streaming industry, from bundle industry alive.

571
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 6: Right, So if you are a live sport.

572
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 3: Well were you?

573
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 2: Will you actually look at the numbers. The numbers are

574
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 2: not big for ABA.

575
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 6: Now compared to what they used to be. Absolutely not.

576
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 5: The NFL is an outlier compared to literally anything else,

577
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 5: but you'd go down.

578
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 6: To the next tier. I mean the NBA is, yeah,

579
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 6: probably the next highest.

580
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: But this number right here from Forbes during the month

581
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: of November, ESPN average one point five million viewers per game.

582
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: T and T average one point four million viewers per game.

583
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: That's up twenty and sixteen percent over last year. Saying

584
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: that the numbers are up is true, but also saying

585
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: that the numbers are abysmal is true. Like that, as

586
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: as Colin pointed out this week, Caitlyn Clark out drew

587
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: a Miami Heat Boston Celtics game this week, we don't

588
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: think that's a problem. Like, I know, Caitlin's a phenomenon,

589
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: but we don't think that's a problem. Like to me,

590
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: I hear you that, Hey, the numbers are up, and

591
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: the TV money's up, and the digitals up and all

592
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: of these things, like, but I also think there is

593
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: a pretty fair statement to be made that while those

594
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: numbers are up, they're up in part because the numbers

595
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: were trash to begin with, right, like, compared to compared

596
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: to what we're used to from most major sports. If

597
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: we're talking about one point five million people watching a game,

598
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: that's the sort of number that you know, wwe pulls

599
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: that sometimes, so like that, I don't I don't think

600
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: that's a success even if it's up. Like and I understand,

601
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: you know, hell, we talked about it all the time

602
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: on the digital platforms before in my life, Like I

603
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: understand the digital power of NBA and the global the

604
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: global money that they're making, But this is that whole.

605
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: I mean, if we're just gonna take ratings are up

606
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: and money's up, I'm pretty sure major League Baseball can

607
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: say the same thing. But we don't feel like major

608
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: League Baseball's doing okay, Like I think that's an You're

609
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: right that those numbers are up, but when you look

610
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: at how small they are, I think that does speak

611
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: to some sort of an issue.

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Speaker 5: But you have to look at the landscape as a

613
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 5: whole too, Like one and a half million for anything

614
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 5: today is big. Like compare again, outside of the National

615
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 5: Football League, TV ratings are down across area football in general,

616
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 5: numbers are down for everything. So now you might be

617
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 5: the tallest, you know, you know, small person in the room, right,

618
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 5: but from that standpoint, you're still winning. And again, we

619
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 5: can view it as an issue and I'm not saying

620
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 5: if it's it's not in some sense is an issue,

621
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 5: but it's not necessarily hurting the league, so well.

622
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 2: It's not hurting even fiscally, you know again, you know,

623
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 2: I mean, and if you view it like zero sum,

624
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 2: you know, if I'm an NBA owner, I'm happy for

625
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 2: my bottom line.

626
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, And what are you losing if you're if the

627
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 5: demographic the kids you know, eighteen to twenty five or

628
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 5: whatever it is, are your highest viewership, your highest social engagement,

629
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 5: and they're the ones who are going to end up

630
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 5: being the ones paying money for streaming services or subscriptions,

631
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 5: whatever it is, and that is your highest grossing demographic.

632
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 5: I mean, are you losing? Is your future really that dire?

633
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 5: I don't know the metrics is?

634
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:06,959
Speaker 2: This is where I want to ask you guys, right,

635
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 2: because think about that, because I agree with you like

636
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 2: that your biggest your biggest fan NBA fan.

637
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 3: Is like you know, kid, your early teen through.

638
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 2: Mid twenties is your NBA fan in a nutshell And

639
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 2: it's been like that for a while. Now, Why I

640
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 2: want you guys to think about why is it that?

641
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 3: Because it is and.

642
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 2: It appears that that's the cycle of the NBA fan,

643
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 2: and that the NBA fan will drop off as you

644
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 2: get told it now? Is that because his life, her

645
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:56,000
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Speaker 1: So?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: And I will say this so I was one of

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Speaker 1: the first hosts of sports Center on Snapchat for ESPN

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Speaker 1: that Alex Smith was traded from Kansas City. I was

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Speaker 1: And I walked one building over afterwards to host the

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Speaker 1: late night edition of sports Center on Snapchat, and I said, guys,

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Speaker 1: I got a ton of notes on Alex Smith. I

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Speaker 1: and I was charred. I was like, what do you mean?

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Speaker 1: And this was We ended up leading that night with

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Speaker 1: a Lonzo Ball preseason NBA highlight. I'll never forget this.

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Speaker 1: And the next day I came in and I wanted

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Speaker 1: the numbers because we on snapchat you get them every day.

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Speaker 1: And three and a half million kids watched that show

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Speaker 1: every single day when I started it. And the crazy

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Speaker 1: part about it is that the next day we looked

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Speaker 1: at it and the numbers were huge for Lonzo, and

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Speaker 1: the minute we talked about the NFL, they all clicked out,

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Speaker 1: every single one. We lost ninety percent of our retention

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Speaker 1: the minute I brought up the NFL, because nobody cared

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Speaker 1: about a trade. But the reason is kids thirteen to

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Speaker 1: twenty four are eighty percent of that audience. They want digestible,

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Speaker 1: quick form highlights, and nobody gives that better than the NBA.

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Speaker 1: The Dunks, the Big Moves to play is like, nobody

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Speaker 1: gives that better than the NBA. Sore into the highlights

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Speaker 1: and the stories, but they're not sitting down and watching

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Speaker 1: long form games, which is something that the NBA is

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Speaker 1: going to have to figure out. How do you translate

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Speaker 1: it from I want my NBA highlights and sports and

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Speaker 1: our snapchat had two seconds to either gain or lose

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Speaker 1: a viewer. How do you get that two second viewer

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Speaker 1: to decide they're going to stay in front entire NBA game?

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Speaker 2: All right, so let's take a time out and then

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Speaker 2: I want you guys to think about this for a second,

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Speaker 2: which is what happens when they turn thirty to the viewer,

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Speaker 2: because the young NBA fan is not new, even though

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Speaker 3: So think about this.

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Speaker 1: down and check out a magic game and and uh

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Speaker 1: you know then parade through the parks. Plus they're they're

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Speaker 1: about to open the Mario World down at Universal, like

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Speaker 1: and you know you could dresses, Mario. I could dresses Luigi.

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Speaker 1: I you know, I'm just just throw not suggestions, just

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Speaker 1: throwing out suggestions.

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Speaker 2: I I figured out more Luigi.

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Speaker 3: You're more Mario.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I think you're you're kind of you're

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Speaker 1: kind of the hero. I'm sort of the sidekick Figgy,

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Speaker 1: like which which which Mario brothers person is Figgy in.

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Speaker 6: This I guess I'm just Yoshi or something. I'm just

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Speaker 6: the mascot.

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Speaker 1: Does Yoshi is so call though Yoshi's could call Figgy.

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Speaker 6: Or I could be the bad guy and be Bowser too.

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Speaker 1: You know that works.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I just come in and destroy stuff.

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Speaker 3: That's just strong actually fake. Well, I like that a lot.

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Speaker 6: I'm all over for the Mario World. I'm into it.

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Speaker 1: No, I can't wait.

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Speaker 6: I play Mario Kart now sometimes, so I'm in.

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Speaker 1: Isn't there a Mario World at Disneyland already or is

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Speaker 1: that not open yet?

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Speaker 6: It is not?

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Speaker 5: No, No, at least not as the last time that

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Speaker 5: I went, which was earlier, was what I should say

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Speaker 5: late last year.

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Speaker 1: No, okay, okay, well said said by.

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Speaker 6: That, I am too, trust me.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm I'm what like i've seen the

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Speaker 1: images of the I'm sorry because you actually had things

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Speaker 1: to talk about and I've not met. It was way

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Speaker 1: more like I saw the images of the park that

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Speaker 1: they built in Japan, and like it is astounding. Yeah cool,

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Speaker 1: you know frankly, like I've always I had a buddy

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Speaker 1: that for years worked at Universal Studios, and I went

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Speaker 1: down and checked out, like I've never I've seen one

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Speaker 1: Harry Potter movie that they're not really my thing. And

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Speaker 1: I walked into Harry Potter World and it was the

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Speaker 1: most incredible thing I can remember seeing. And I went

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Speaker 1: and saw the Star Wars area of Disney and I

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Speaker 1: was I mean it was there was like an emotional,

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Speaker 1: visceral experience.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: So like the thought of being able to do that

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Speaker 1: with with Mario, Oh man, I am not going to

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Speaker 1: be well, it's going to be amazing.

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Speaker 3: Dude, that's awesome. That's a great idea for like walking

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Speaker 3: around in Mario World. Yeah. Yeah, I'm in with that.

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Speaker 3: That's smart. So boys just get curious.

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Speaker 2: Is is that an issue the age and what happens

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Speaker 2: at thirty that people start to stray from the NBA?

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Speaker 6: Go ahead fits.

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Speaker 1: I got a theory on the As you get older,

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Speaker 1: I think it gets tougher and tougher to be as

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Speaker 1: dedicated to sports that are so many days a week.

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Speaker 1: It's one of the reasons that frankly, I genuinely think

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Speaker 1: that the NFL is making a mistake spreading the games

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Speaker 1: out more into the week. And not a mistake right

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Speaker 1: now and I'll make the money today, but in fifteen

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Speaker 1: years we'll see what that means, because you know, like

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Speaker 1: I look at it and the attention span of it's

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Speaker 1: a Wednesday, Is there a game tonight? Like that's just

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Speaker 1: a much different world than it's Sunday, and you know,

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Speaker 1: games are happening. So I think as you get older

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Speaker 1: and more life gets in your way, it gets harder

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Speaker 1: to be a seven day week sport consumer. In the NBA,

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Speaker 1: the NHL, major League Baseball, those are all seven day

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Speaker 1: a week sports.

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Speaker 5: I agree to a certain I will say what helps

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Speaker 5: major League Baseball as there are so many games you're

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Speaker 5: you're just viable, liable to just bump into one on

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Speaker 5: a random night, you know, yeah, yeah, exactly. Basketball, they're

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Speaker 5: spreading them out a little bit more, especially now they

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Speaker 5: have fewer back to backs, so you almost have to,

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Speaker 5: you know, look on the schedule to see when they're playing.

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Speaker 5: So I do think it actually helps baseball to have

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Speaker 5: one hundred and sixty two and you can just run

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Speaker 5: into a game, as opposed to the NHL at the NBA,

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Speaker 5: where there's a lot of games, but you can end

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Speaker 5: up missing them more.

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Speaker 6: So I don't disagree.

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Speaker 2: You know what's interesting NBA stats, it's kind of what

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Speaker 2: the MLB used to be.

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Speaker 3: Do you agree with that?

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Speaker 6: Their stats?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: You know, it's a weird phenomenon and we're going to

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Speaker 2: get to because this is all part of the process

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Speaker 2: of post football life without football, at least the games,

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Speaker 2: and it's a very real, uh depression that overtakes us.

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Speaker 3: And we'll get into it just a second.

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Speaker 2: But I had an overnight storm hit fitz Eas and

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Speaker 2: snowing and there.

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Speaker 1: Yep, snow covered already. Had we got sixteen and a

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Speaker 1: half inches a few days ago, and now we're just

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Speaker 1: laying fresh powder on top of it. It's fine, it's fine. Fine,

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Speaker 1: came back from Vegas to sixteen and a half inches.

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Speaker 3: It's nice, nice, you know. What's weird is that?

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Speaker 2: So when I went bad, it's around eleven o'clock and

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Speaker 2: it was there was no snow, and I just looked

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Speaker 2: outside because I forgot it was supposed to snow. So

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Speaker 2: apparently it started to snow like right after eleven o'clock

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Speaker 2: and there's about like six inches five inches on the ground.

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Speaker 3: So it's weird how it just snowed overnight.

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Speaker 2: You wake up, you go to bed, there's no snow,

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Speaker 2: You wake up and there's you know, like you know,

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Speaker 2: full five inches on the ground.

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Speaker 3: It's a weird thing.

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Speaker 1: Now, you're not wrong because when I went to bed,

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Speaker 1: the streets were at least cover the clear, you know,

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Speaker 1: like and that's that's a New England thing. Like you

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Speaker 1: look outside and you're like, okay, I got snow on

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Speaker 1: the grass, that's fine, but the streets are cleared. Everything's fine.

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Speaker 1: I woke up this morning, you know, letting the dog out.

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Speaker 1: I look outside and I'm like, wait, the streets are

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Speaker 1: no longer clear, and yeah, I've got several I don't

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Speaker 1: know how many inches. I didn't go out far enough,

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Speaker 1: didn't didn't go out far enough to check it. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: the streets are getting covered. Welcome to winter hit. It

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Speaker 1: just hit a little late in Connecticut. That's all coming

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Speaker 1: off in Vegas.

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Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you. I get I was bummed

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Speaker 2: out that I missed watch. I still love and it's

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Speaker 2: just something fig that that. Uh, I'm sure, I'm curious

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Speaker 2: how you would think about it, but it's I love

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Speaker 2: watching it fall. Do you agree, FITZI do you like?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I love watching Fall, man. I still like

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Speaker 2: can loose my stuff for a couple of minutes and

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Speaker 2: just watching the snowfall down.

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Speaker 1: Like I love snow if I don't have to go outside,

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Speaker 1: like if the fridge is stocked and I could just

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Speaker 1: turn on a Law Order marathon, then like open up

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Speaker 1: all the curtains and just let the snow fall in

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Speaker 1: the background. Well, I watch, you know, crime be solved

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Speaker 1: by two major divisions. Yet thanks, that's all day for me.

870
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 5: Hey, I'm with you, guys, as someone you used to

871
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 5: play Madden all the time and try to seek out

872
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 5: a cold weather city just so I can turn the

873
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 5: temperature down and have the snowfall.

874
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 6: I'm right with you.

875
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 5: I love watching it don't want to be in it,

876
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 5: though I'm right there with you. I love enjoying it

877
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 5: from afar. Yeah, as I sit in southern California where

878
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 5: the weather or about sixty two today.

879
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 3: Well, it must have been the same thing.

880
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 2: Like growing up in La you probably love Like you'd

881
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 2: see Fox Borrow and you're like, look at this, look

882
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:16,720
Speaker 2: at these people, but these these creatures.

883
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 9: You know, like oh yeah, while the snow falls and

884
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 9: mouths barrel man with no shirt on and freezing cold

885
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 9: and then double fisting beers.

886
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 6: It's insane ectly like we would be.

887
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 2: I'll never forget being a kid, and like it's for

888
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 2: dead of winter in Philly, and like I'd see those

889
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 2: games from you know, the San Diego Chargers, like from

890
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 2: San Diego or four o'clock, and I'd see the warm

891
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 2: weather and uh or the Rams and you could be like, wow,

892
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 2: look at that. You know, the weather must be great, but.

893
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:58,879
Speaker 6: This is with your mind a little bit done.

894
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 5: And when it's snow and you can to leave your

895
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 5: house and you look at a game at the coliseum

896
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 5: in La Yeah, and the sun's out, no clouds.

897
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

898
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 2: No, It's was always like it's it's it's funny all right,

899
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 2: so we're getting over the loss of football.

900
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 3: And it's very real.

901
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:15,399
Speaker 4: Man.

902
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 2: It's you know when you when you do something every

903
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 2: week for you know, five months, and then you stop,

904
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 2: it's you have a withdrawal. It's real. There's a depression

905
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 2: that comes with it. You start, you know, even if

906
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 2: you don't get involved with training camp, you're in college football,

907
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 2: say from Labor Day weekend, it's college football the NFL,

908
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 2: you know, through September, October, November, December, January, and it

909
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 2: finally arcs the middle of February and then all of

910
00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 2: a sudden, you turn around and you go, where is

911
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 2: it that? And it's to me, it's it's one of

912
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 2: the tougher things in the calendar.

913
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: It's become such a part of the ritual. I think

914
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:15,800
Speaker 1: that's a big like we are so with sports ritual oriented.

915
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: Like think of how many people are a fan because

916
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 1: they grow up watching with their friends in this situation

917
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: and their mom and dad in this situation. You know,

918
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: your kids in these situations, Like it becomes such a

919
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 1: part of a pattern that you live. I think that's

920
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: the hardest part of it, is, like the pattern changes

921
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 1: because not even just talking about what we do for

922
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: a living and the glory of getting to cover sports

923
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: for a living. But for so many fans, you wake

924
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: up on Saturday and you know you're gonna turn on

925
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: some sort of a pregame show and you're gonna watch

926
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: college football in the background all day while you do

927
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: whatever you do. And you wake up on Sunday you're

928
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: gonna watch pregame show and you're gonna watch the NFL

929
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:51,879
Speaker 1: all day. It becomes a sudden hole where now it's

930
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,240
Speaker 1: like I don't know what to do with my hands.

931
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 1: Like you're just sitting there, You're like, what am I Like?

932
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: What is life supposed to be on the weekends for

933
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: a lot of sports fanatics. That I think is part

934
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 1: of the reason, like you say, withdrawal, and I think

935
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: there's just a a tone of like feeling a little

936
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: lost for so many people on this weekend because you're

937
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: just habit, We're used to it. It's the reason that

938
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: everybody gets stir crazy and by June, everybody's going to

939
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: be screaming for I just want football. For all the

940
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: time that we spent this year saying Thursday night football sucks,

941
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: I would just like to remind everybody in June how

942
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: much you wish you still have Thursday night football, Like

943
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,760
Speaker 1: that's just because it becomes such a part of life.

944
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that and it kind of goes into what

945
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,720
Speaker 5: you said last hour fitsy about you know, the the NFL,

946
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 5: you know, having wanting to have games every single night.

947
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 5: And I've said it for years and I'll keep to

948
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 5: continue to say it. Part of the reason, outside of gambling,

949
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 5: that the NFL is so popular, you have time to

950
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 5: miss it. You know, Baseball ends or early November, free agencies, December,

951
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 5: and you roll around and pitches and catchers are in

952
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 5: camp in January and they're playing again in February. The

953
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 5: NBA off season is a couple of months before they

954
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 5: start up again. The NFL has such a short season

955
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 5: and such a long offseason. Yeah, you feel terrible at

956
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 5: this point in time. And you mentioned not even June.

957
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 5: By May, after free agency, after the draft happened, youurrady

958
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 5: to start get going again.

959
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 6: It gives you time to miss it.

960
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 5: And that's why the NFL, I think will always be

961
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 5: the most popular sport in this country because unlike the

962
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 5: other sports where you just bombard it constantly, it actually

963
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 5: gives you time to be able to miss it, even

964
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 5: though the NFL tries its best to stay at the

965
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 5: top of your consciousness throughout the offseason with a bunch

966
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 5: of its schedule, releases, drafts, combines all that, but it

967
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 5: doesn't compare to the games themselves.

968
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I think that's what we were talking about

969
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 2: last hour, which was we love the games. Yeah, the

970
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 2: games themselves. We don't love all the other games too ubiquitous.

971
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 6: I get it, all right.

972
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,760
Speaker 5: Look if the NBA played two games a week instead

973
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 5: of you know, four, I think it'd be a little

974
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 5: bit different.

975
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 6: You guys are one hundred percent right.

976
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 5: The scarcity thing works at the exact same way with

977
00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 5: baseball or the NBA.

978
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 6: Those sports are built that way.

979
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,439
Speaker 2: But yeah, but do you think, and let me ask

980
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 2: you this, do you think that part of it is

981
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 2: just the way the game is that it makes just

982
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 2: for a better watch.

983
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 5: The NFL in general, to a certain degree, Yes, But

984
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 5: I also think because you can only play one game

985
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 5: every you know, five to seven days, you know, Thursday

986
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 5: Night's notwithstanding here or there, you just there's more time

987
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 5: to actually talk about the games and what's happening in between.

988
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 5: When you're playing in the NBA or major League Baseball

989
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 5: and you're playing every single solitary night. You can only

990
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 5: get so granular so much, you know, that's the thing.

991
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 1: You know.

992
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 5: In the NFL, it gives you time to be able

993
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 5: to break things down and watch film. And I truly

994
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 5: feel and we can't have this experiment, but if your

995
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 5: Sixers played once a week or twice a week, they

996
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 5: played Monday and they play Friday and that was it,

997
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 5: or Monday and Thursday, I do think there'd be a

998
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 5: lot more interest because there's just so much more time

999
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 5: to ruminate in between. There's just no time to do

1000
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 5: that the way that current the schedule is currently structured.

1001
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 1: I think you're right, Figgie, And I think it would

1002
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: also change the meaning of each of those games, Like

1003
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 1: I mean, this is the math math whiz in me,

1004
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:16,399
Speaker 1: Like check out big numbers, but seventeen NFL games, right,

1005
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: And so that means that one game between the Raiders

1006
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 1: and Chiefs means as much as five games between the

1007
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 1: Sixers and the Bucks. Right, So you'd have to play

1008
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,919
Speaker 1: five games between the Sixers and Bucks in one day

1009
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: for it to have as much meaning as one NFL

1010
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: game does. That's always been my argument with Major League baseball,

1011
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,919
Speaker 1: that essentially one game between the Raiders and Chiefs means

1012
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: as much as ten straight games between the Yankees and

1013
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: the Red Sox. So how do you get ten games? Like,

1014
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 1: just from the simple math, how do you get ten

1015
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: games meaning in one game? Because that's what the NFL

1016
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: does every single time. So the hard part about it

1017
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: is like after the All Star break and you know

1018
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 1: the Celtics are on a roll. Great, so the Celtics

1019
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 1: are going to go to Chicago and then they're going

1020
00:50:58,280 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: to go to the next then they play the seventy

1021
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: six Each of those games in and of themselves. If

1022
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: they were just standalone games, we'd have some probable conversation

1023
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: about them. But realistically, if they get blown out by

1024
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 1: the Bills and then turn around and their Bulls, I

1025
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 1: should say, and then turn around and beat the Knicks

1026
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: and like it just every game doesn't have that same

1027
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 1: level of meaning because it's a it's a night to

1028
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: night league. That also, we've devalued the regular season and

1029
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,320
Speaker 1: made only the playoffs matter, So like, how is somebody

1030
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 1: that's casually coming in unless you're playing fantasy basketball, you're

1031
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: betting on it, or you are just consuming the highlights

1032
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 1: what is the reason that you stop everything on your

1033
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: social calendar to watch a game between the Celtics and Knicks.

1034
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

1035
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 2: And the other aspect too that you guys touching on

1036
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 2: with football and scarcity of it.

1037
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 3: Is that it doominantly happens over the weekend.

1038
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have your you know, your outliers, but you know,

1039
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 2: let's face it, it's the weekend, so you look forward

1040
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 2: to and then it's only one game on a Monday

1041
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 2: night or a Thursday night, so it kind of breaks

1042
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 2: up the week like, oh, that's why everybody watches it,

1043
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 2: and because it's such a it's.

1044
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 3: A great break.

1045
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 2: The the issue is goes back to to I think

1046
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 2: with these other sports, it goes back to playoffs. Like

1047
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:16,919
Speaker 2: there's nothing better like the NBA playoffs. I don't care

1048
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 2: if you're not the biggest NBA geek, but those NBA

1049
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 2: playoffs are awesome. The Wats like, first of all, the

1050
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 2: familiarity of a series breeds contempt, right it Like there's

1051
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 2: there's organic, you know, storylines and plots that develop because

1052
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 2: you're playing the same team in a seven game series,

1053
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 2: and it just leads all leads to this, you know,

1054
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 2: incredible moment like that. That's that's the biggest problem. And

1055
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 2: the minute that you have sixteen teams make the playoffs

1056
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 2: is the minute the regular season just becomes meaningless.

1057
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 5: That's and that that was gonna be my next point.

1058
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 5: That's the biggest issue. I think it hurts baseball more

1059
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 5: than anything because you talk about a one hundred and

1060
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 5: sixty two game schedule. When that schedule was built, you

1061
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 5: basically just had a league championship series in the World Series, right,

1062
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 5: and that was it. And before that, actually it was

1063
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 5: just whoever won the league, had the best record in

1064
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 5: their league went straight to the World Series. So that's

1065
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 5: why the regular season was built that way. Whoever at

1066
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,240
Speaker 5: the best record, who were built up the best resume

1067
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 5: throughout the entire season through one sixty two, proved themselves

1068
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 5: out to be the best team. But we started making

1069
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 5: the playoffs, expanded to twelve thirteen, fourteen teams and also

1070
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 5: have one hundred and sixty two games.

1071
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 6: Yet a lot of those games are going to lose meeting.

1072
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 6: It makes sense.

1073
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,919
Speaker 5: It's not that those games are no longer necessary because

1074
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 5: now you're putting more emphasis on the playoffs on the

1075
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 5: back end as opposed to the regular season. Games basically

1076
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 5: are a playoff. It's why a lot of people are

1077
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 5: arguing against the expansion of college football's playoff and saying

1078
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 5: you should stay at four or what people who like

1079
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 5: the BCS because they say it would diminish the regular season,

1080
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 5: which in and of itself was a playoff. I didn't

1081
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:01,240
Speaker 5: necessarily argue with that, but I understood the sin of it.

1082
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 5: Like for the NBA, we talked about parody before, I

1083
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 5: actually like it because you can have a team like

1084
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 5: the Lakers get out of the play in tournament, work

1085
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 5: their way up, and actually make it to the conference

1086
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 5: finals last year. Generally speaking, that's not going to happen

1087
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 5: every year. But there's more parody in the NBA these

1088
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 5: last couple of years, and that has been in recent years.

1089
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 5: So the one eight matchup isn't a given like it

1090
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 5: was seven eight years ago. So from that standpoint, I

1091
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 5: think it's actually a good thing. And one thing that

1092
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 5: the NBA has done is with the play in tournament,

1093
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 5: I think it actually has added to some extra intrigue

1094
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 5: that wasn't there before.

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Speaker 1: I don't disagree with anything you just said at all.

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00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: The only thing that seems stunning to me is that

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00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: looking this year at the league, and you know, you

1098
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: guys know that I'm an NBA fan, but I'm not

1099
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,320
Speaker 1: die hard to the level you guys are. But looking

1100
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:49,240
Speaker 1: at this league this year, there are so many stories

1101
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 1: that in most sports would be absolutely mentioned. The demise

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00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 1: of the Bucks, the fact that the Cavs are way

1103
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: ahead of schedule, the fact that the Timberwolves are legitimately

1104
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 1: a very good team, the fact that Oklahoma City could

1105
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: actually make the NBA Finals, the fact that the Nuggets

1106
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: seem like they're sort of just mailing it in and

1107
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,800
Speaker 1: they are still where they are throughout the course of

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00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: the season, and Jokic might end up be in the

1109
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,800
Speaker 1: MVP again. Like, these are all stories that in any

1110
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 1: other sport, I feel like would just be the talking point.

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00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: And what I don't know is how do you shift

1112
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: everything so that we stop talking like this is almost

1113
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,359
Speaker 1: like combining it, moving it to the golf issue. How

1114
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 1: do you stop talking about Tiger? Like, how do we

1115
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 1: stop talking about the fact that the Lakers, who is

1116
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 1: you know, I know, we were off to talk about

1117
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 1: Lebron like that's the job. Everybody cares about Lebron. How

1118
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: do you make people care about Oklahoma City as much

1119
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: because that's actually I think for the league that's a

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00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:40,879
Speaker 1: better story. I just don't know how to do that.

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00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,959
Speaker 3: It's a great point. It really is a great point.

1122
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 2: It again, it gets to go back to consumption of games,

1123
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 2: Like the country doesn't wake up and watch the masses

1124
00:55:55,200 --> 00:56:00,760
Speaker 2: at least until the playoffs begin. And that's that's the truth.

1125
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 2: Like and you go, well, it's good, stop like you know,

1126
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 2: the playoffs are the best. It's the same thing with

1127
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 2: like with baseball. To me, Trow it still drives me

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00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 2: in seene that they don't let the playoffs breathe. They

1129
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 2: rush through the playoffs. It's the best part of the sport. Like,

1130
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 2: the one thing the NBA has right is the playoffs

1131
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 2: last two and a half months.

1132
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 5: They milk the hell out of it. That's smart.

1133
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 3: They should do that. Baseball should do the same thing.

1134
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 3: Like what do you do with that?

1135
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 5: Why don't Why wouldn't you want the ace so one

1136
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 5: of the best pitchers to pitch two or three times

1137
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 5: in a series by spreading games out.

1138
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:39,359
Speaker 6: Why wouldn't you want to do that?

1139
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 1: Oh?

1140
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 3: My god?

1141
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 2: And and you like I don't know about you, but like,

1142
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 2: because you're a big baseball fan fake and in the playoffs,

1143
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 2: like I look forward to the like on the off day,

1144
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,439
Speaker 2: thinking about the lineup that's going to happen the next day,

1145
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 2: Like I don't need you to play three games in

1146
00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 2: a row.

1147
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't understand why they do it. It doesn't

1148
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 5: make a lot of sense to me, because you're you're diminishing.

1149
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 5: We know that it's all it's all about stars, and

1150
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 5: some of the biggest stars, especially at that point in

1151
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,839
Speaker 5: the season, are the pictures. And now all of a sudden,

1152
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 5: you're playing three days in a row, and they're the

1153
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 5: opportunity to have a picture, a star pitcher be able

1154
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 5: to make a different make three appearances in a series

1155
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 5: is severely limited at that point in time, and it

1156
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 5: just doesn't make.

1157
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 1: What would the NFL do if they were in the

1158
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 1: same situation and the NFL was like, you know what,

1159
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 1: we're either gonna have quarterback a B or CEG. They

1160
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,919
Speaker 1: would space the games out so that the absolute star

1161
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 1: quarterback was available for everyone. They would say, money and

1162
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 1: TV be damned, we are going to make sure that

1163
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: we put the best guy on the field and eventually

1164
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: it'll work out.

1165
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 3: Well.

1166
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 5: We can do a whole show on the MLB as

1167
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 5: ass backwards on so many different things. We still can't

1168
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 5: even if I can pull back the curtain if a

1169
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 5: baseball game is going on, I can't play baseball highlights

1170
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 5: right now.

1171
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 6: Because that's against MLB rules. What does that tell you?

1172
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, you know it's funny they are,

1173
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 2: so you know what it's are because their digital is

1174
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 2: really sharp, but the rules are ant or retarding, stupid.

1175
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 6: It's ridiculous.

1176
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 2: It is like you're dying to know where to grow

1177
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 2: the game at all, and god forbid you touch a highlight.

1178
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 5: Right because the game isn't overeat are you? They are

1179
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,919
Speaker 5: the worst if a video pops up. And by the way,

1180
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 5: going back to the NBA for a second, I think

1181
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 5: part of the reason why they resonated so much with

1182
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 5: the youth is because when YouTube you mentioned snapchat earlier,

1183
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 5: fits all these social media platforms copyright Otherwise fans will

1184
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 5: put up videos highlights and the NBA did not care.

1185
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 5: They said, by all means, put it up there. It's

1186
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 5: free promotion Major League Baseball. The NFL has backed off

1187
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 5: of it a little bit over the last decade, but

1188
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 5: Major League Baseball still the instant something goes up. That's

1189
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:50,439
Speaker 5: not on the MLBA account. They are sending everything at you.

1190
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 5: Take it down, cease and assist. It's like it's only

1191
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 5: going to help you grow the game, the one sport

1192
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 5: of all the major sports that's falling behind. You need

1193
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 5: as much exposure, free exposure or however you can get it.

1194
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 5: But you still just don't understand how it works.

1195
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a frustrating part. That's baffling. It's just completely

1196
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 2: baffling to me. And baseball's got so many Like what

1197
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,919
Speaker 2: it does have is highlights. Like, yes, we talk about

1198
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 2: the slow pace of it. Well, I mean, does it

1199
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 2: get more like slower than football when you think about it,

1200
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 2: Like there's eighteen minutes of game action in at three

1201
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 2: and a half hour football telecasts right right, But somehow

1202
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 2: the rhythm of it makes sense. So you have all

1203
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 2: these incredible plays that happened, why not allowed to go viral?

1204
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 5: Well, especially now with the rules changes, you have guys

1205
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:45,959
Speaker 5: stealing sixty bases. Last year, base hits were up because

1206
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 5: the shifts are banned. I mean last year was the

1207
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 5: time to lift it. But I'll get the highlights out

1208
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 5: there and get more viewership. Say we're trying to appeal

1209
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 5: to the younger audience. It just they baffle me. Rob

1210
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 5: Manfred can't retire soon enough. I'll just say that he's

1211
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 5: the worst. He really is.

1212
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 2: He's the worst, you know, and they need to look.

1213
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 2: The minute you start adding layers to the playoffs, yeah,

1214
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 2: is when you need to start lopping off games from

1215
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 2: the regular season.

1216
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 6: I agree. I agree with that.

1217
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 5: If you're going to continue to extend the postseason, you

1218
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 5: have to take games off of the regular season because

1219
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 5: it just becomes unwatchable and unnecessary.

1220
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 2: No, it's exactly, it's just stupid. And then and then

1221
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 2: you have the spring training, Like you're playing thirty games

1222
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 2: in spring training. Yeah, like at some point you go, well,

1223
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 2: you know what, maybe make the spring training games count,

1224
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 2: just so you're if you need, if you're desperate that

1225
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 2: you you can't change the number of games in the

1226
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:48,919
Speaker 2: regular season, well then why not make it. So think

1227
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 2: about this, I'm just throwing off the top of my head.

1228
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 2: Make spring training games count at some point, like, maybe

1229
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 2: do a week of exhibition. I know your arms aren't ready,

1230
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 2: got to get everything stretched out, but figure out a

1231
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 2: way where you can actually play it.

1232
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 3: Maybe two weeks.

1233
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 2: In March that they count at least you're not you know,

1234
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 2: at least you're you're attacking the.

1235
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 3: Stack of the schedule.

1236
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, it seems to be a little bit excessive. I'm not, like,

1237
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 5: I'm a baseball guy, but not to that extent. I

1238
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 5: can't talk about, you know, getting pictures worked up into

1239
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 5: their rhythm and all that stuff. But it does seem

1240
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 5: that's free training is a little bit longer than it

1241
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 5: really needs to be.

1242
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 6: I'll say that.

1243
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 2: It just is like, you know, again, guys aren't working

1244
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 2: coming off of you know, work at the auto at

1245
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 2: the auto parts store, right, you know, like the guys

1246
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 2: are in shape all year around. Now you're not supposed

1247
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 2: to be throwing X amount anyway.

1248
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 5: Right, especially now the way they coddle all these pictures.

1249
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, god forbid, somebody throws seventy pitches in

1250
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 5: the game. Let's shut them down and put them on ice,

1251
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 5: and you know they can't pitch again for a month exactly.

1252
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 2: I mean, what, you know, if you can get another

1253
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 2: two weeks in March, well you're you're making some headway.

1254
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 2: At least you could start the playoffs earlier. I don't know,

1255
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 2: we'll do We'll discuss where where the fella is hanging

1256
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:20,120
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Speaker 3: How about you hit us with some trending since we

1265
01:02:58,080 --> 01:02:59,479
Speaker 3: blew it off last hour?

1266
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 6: Squad? Alright, squad, All right? Well start with the NBA.

1267
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 5: Since we're at the All Star break, they did announce

1268
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 5: the Basketball Hall of Fame that is announced the list

1269
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 5: of fourteen finalists on Friday, with the inductees will be

1270
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 5: announced during the final four weekend. Chauncey Billups, head coach

1271
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:17,919
Speaker 5: of the Blazers, Finals MVP, multiple time All Star. He's

1272
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 5: on the list along with Vince Carter, showtime Laker, Michael Cooper,

1273
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 5: and former University of Wisconsin head coach bo Ryan. Ben

1274
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 5: Matherin of the Hometown Pacers won the MVP of the

1275
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 5: Rising Stars competition on Friday night and golf second round

1276
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 5: at the Genesis Open. Tournament host Tiger Woods did withdraw

1277
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 5: from the tournament less than halfway through his round after

1278
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 5: he fell ill. Jordan Speith disqualified from the tournament after

1279
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 5: he logged the incorrect score on his scorecard. Patrick Cantley

1280
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 5: shot a six under sixty five for the round. He

1281
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 5: has a five stroke lead in college basketball San Diego

1282
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 5: State with win number twenty on the season in eighty

1283
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 5: one to seventy victory over in New Mexico in the

1284
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 5: NHL Carolina all over Arizona five to one.

1285
01:03:57,920 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 6: Back to the Fellas.

1286
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:05,919
Speaker 2: That's us Fellas Live from the ti iraq dot com studios.

1287
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 2: All right, so let me uh, let me bring this

1288
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 2: up for a second, just a little Super Bowl put

1289
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 2: a bow on it for a minute because we haven't

1290
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 2: really discussed it. But did you see the play in

1291
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 2: overtime when when the Niners had to settle for the

1292
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:26,439
Speaker 2: field goal?

1293
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 3: So on the other side, so Chris Jones bust through.

1294
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:35,919
Speaker 2: There was there was some issues protection issues with two

1295
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 2: guys going wrong with Chris Jones just burst through the

1296
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 2: b gap right and he's in Purty's face. He if

1297
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 2: he looks to the left, Iyuk has McDuffie beat McDuffie

1298
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 2: falls and I Yuke's wide open.

1299
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 3: It would have been a walking touchdown.

1300
01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 2: But because Chris Jones is in and Uh Purdy's face,

1301
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 2: he can't get he doesn't see that part of the field.

1302
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 5: Similar situation on the previous drive. I believe when McDuffie

1303
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 5: blitzed off of the slot and brock Purty looked in

1304
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 5: the wrong direction, I mean he also had Iu over

1305
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 5: the middle, they would have converted that first down and

1306
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 5: probably would have won the game as well as block

1307
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 5: Rock Party played overall didn't turn the ball over. I

1308
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 5: thought he made some good throws at times. There was

1309
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 5: just and I think we discussed this on the show,

1310
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 5: when a quarterback needs to be able to make a play,

1311
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 5: I just hadn't trusted. I didn't trust brock Purty to

1312
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 5: be able to do it when it mattered at most

1313
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 5: and Patrick Mahomes sure enough was able to do it.

1314
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 5: And when there was a big moment, brock Party, to

1315
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 5: his credit, didn't turn the ball over. But there was

1316
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 5: a guy wide open over the middle, and being able

1317
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 5: to read and pick up the blitz.

1318
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 6: He just wasn't able to do it well.

1319
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 1: We also had the forty nine ers offensive lineman throwing

1320
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 1: each other under the bus. Oh yeah, on social media

1321
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 1: about who was responsible for what. But it's a reminder

1322
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 1: because I think y'all, like I think, there's been a

1323
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 1: tremendous oversimplification of the post Super Bowl conversation where people

1324
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 1: want to make everything Kyle Shanahan's fault because they lost

1325
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 1: that football game. And what's funny to me is that

1326
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:10,480
Speaker 1: to the point that you just made figgin and as

1327
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 1: you rewatch the game, there were plays there to be made,

1328
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 1: and I know what inside the NFL had the clip

1329
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 1: of a wide open the wide open McCaffrey was right

1330
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 1: there and Brock didn't see him. And you can hear

1331
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 1: Shannahan saying Christian, Christian, Christian like, but but perty just

1332
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 1: didn't see him, right, So there are some elements of this.

1333
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 1: As much as everybody wants to say, oh, Kyle Shanahan

1334
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 1: just doesn't know how to win the big game, there

1335
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 1: were individual letdowns at different times throughout the course of

1336
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 1: this game by individual players, and four or five plays

1337
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 1: was the difference between being Super Bowl champions and not

1338
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 1: being Super Bowl champions. And I'm not, frankly, I'm not

1339
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 1: putting that on Kyle Shannon. I think the blame to

1340
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 1: Shanahan is a massive oversimplification where it's like, hey, he's

1341
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 1: lost Super Bowls in the past, so this one might

1342
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 1: must also be that that case, I don't think it was.

1343
01:06:56,720 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 2: Oh I don't either. I completely agree, And I went

1344
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 2: through we went through that whole tape. Baldy and I

1345
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 2: I had spags on this week for an hour talking

1346
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 2: about each of his plays and the like the big

1347
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 2: plays and what he called. So like that play that

1348
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 2: you referenced. That was also that blitz by mcduffy that

1349
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 2: came off the edge. He had something else called, and

1350
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 2: then there was the two minute warning right and they

1351
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 2: were and he.

1352
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 3: Decided to to blitz him.

1353
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 2: And there that was a big gut blitzed too, because uh,

1354
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 2: it closed, so he was able to close it so quickly.

1355
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 2: Uh that's what that say. Fleet called it a fourth down.

1356
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 2: So they had some fourth down plays that he'll call,

1357
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 2: like with the game on the line type of thing,

1358
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:54,920
Speaker 2: and that's one of their plays that he had socked

1359
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 2: away and it was a great play.

1360
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 3: Great blitz, great pressure, and.

1361
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 5: Who was to say, you know, at the time, maybe

1362
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 5: at the line of scrimmage brock pretty read something wrong

1363
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 5: or who. I don't know if the responsibilities on him

1364
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 5: or the center to call out plays.

1365
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 6: But those are the hidden things.

1366
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 5: Like for as critical as as I've been of Tom Brady,

1367
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 5: and he's a great player, but I don't think he's

1368
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 5: the greatest of all time. One of the things he

1369
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:16,479
Speaker 5: was great at was checking out of bad plays and

1370
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 5: being able to find the open man because he was

1371
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 5: able to read fronts.

1372
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 2: I got to tell you one thing though, Honestly, if

1373
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 2: they're looking at that tape, so much of the issue,

1374
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 2: like the big issues weren't really on pretty It was really.

1375
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:29,679
Speaker 3: On a production.

1376
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 2: But yeah you had you got a half dozen times

1377
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:35,600
Speaker 2: where they were going the wrong either the center of

1378
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:38,759
Speaker 2: the guard was going the wrong way on a plot

1379
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:40,960
Speaker 2: like wasn't blocking down like you could see.

1380
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 6: It, miscommunication up front between the guys.

1381
01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 2: And unfortunately he actually played I'll be honest with you,

1382
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 2: you sounded I was impressed, like you know, big stage

1383
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:52,599
Speaker 2: like that.

1384
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's pretty He was pretty cool about.

1385
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 5: It, considering how poorly I think he played overall. Throughout

1386
01:08:58,120 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 5: the postseason and he had some big runs against the

1387
01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 5: True and all that. But I thought he showed himself

1388
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 5: pretty well in the Super Bowl. All things considered, I.

1389
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 1: Did to And you know, again, I know it's easy

1390
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 1: to second guess everything, but it's because we want to

1391
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 1: come into like sometimes you just lose a game, and

1392
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 1: like nobody wants to hear that, but sometimes two teams

1393
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:20,680
Speaker 1: go out, they both play the tails off and the

1394
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:23,280
Speaker 1: way it comes together, you just lose a football game.

1395
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 1: And we are in a world where everybody wants to

1396
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 1: find an escapegount for that, in a world where somebody's

1397
01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:31,760
Speaker 1: got to find the who's to blame for it? And

1398
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 1: it's like, well, I mean that's a loaded and complicated question,

1399
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:39,559
Speaker 1: you know, And even coming down to taking the ball first,

1400
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 1: which I in overtime, which before I heard Shanahan's explanation,

1401
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 1: I tweeted out what I thought why I thought it

1402
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 1: made sense, which actually ended up matching his exact explanation,

1403
01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:50,599
Speaker 1: like you don't want to give my homes the ball

1404
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 1: third in a sudden death world, Like I think that

1405
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 1: we look at all.

1406
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:56,599
Speaker 2: I disagree with it. I mean, I don't think it's

1407
01:09:56,680 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 2: some big you know you're you're for doing that. I

1408
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 2: just I to me, I would have deferred, but.

1409
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 5: I think it's inexact. I don't know if there's a

1410
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 5: right or wrong that it's a matter of philosophy.

1411
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 3: I think it don't preference.

1412
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't feel stri the other.

1413
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't have some sort of a glow like

1414
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 1: I understood it because that's what I would have done.

1415
01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:18,760
Speaker 1: Like when when he went out with the rules being

1416
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 1: what they were, my first instinct was, man, I want

1417
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 1: the ball first. So when when he did that, I

1418
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 1: didn't have a hard time with it, but that was

1419
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:29,639
Speaker 1: for me. That's because I'm taking on the best player

1420
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 1: in the world, and so like, I never want to

1421
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 1: live someplace where the best player in the world is

1422
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 1: going to have the opportunity to touch the ball last.

1423
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:40,760
Speaker 2: I guess that go into it thinking that it's automatically

1424
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 2: going to be in a third overtime, Like I just

1425
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:44,880
Speaker 2: want to know what I need to do.

1426
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd take the college football route and say, like,

1427
01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 5: I'd rather be on defense first, exactly one, because your defense,

1428
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 5: for the most part, I played so well. If I

1429
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:55,479
Speaker 5: do get a stop, I mean, come on, we had

1430
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:57,520
Speaker 5: a field goal and we're out of here with a championship,

1431
01:10:58,000 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 5: So I would I would have gone, But I certainly

1432
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 5: understand your thought process is shan Anne's process too, So

1433
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 5: I wasn't highly critical of that decision.

1434
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:08,439
Speaker 6: It's not what I would have done, but I understand

1435
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:08,800
Speaker 6: the thinking.

1436
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:12,920
Speaker 1: Yea yeah, and like to the point I say the

1437
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 1: same exact thing to you guys, like I understand why

1438
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 1: taking it second makes a ton of sense.

1439
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 4: I do.

1440
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 1: I would have taken it first for the reasons I said,

1441
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:23,559
Speaker 1: and for the reasons Shanahan laid out. I thought it

1442
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 1: made a lot of sense. Plus it helps my defense rest,

1443
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:28,559
Speaker 1: and my defense was just taken all the way down

1444
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 1: the field, right, So I like the thought and I

1445
01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 1: really do believe there's a either way, But there's a

1446
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 1: trust your defense element in a world where in a

1447
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 1: world where they had given up one touchdown on a

1448
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:42,800
Speaker 1: short field, I feel like you probably look at your

1449
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 1: defense and say, man, if I could just give them

1450
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:46,760
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes rest, all they have to do.

1451
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 1: All I have to do is make sure I get

1452
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 1: at least three, and we're gonna make sure that we

1453
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 1: see a third position. We get three, we're gonna get

1454
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 1: a third possession. I could, I could totally understand that

1455
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 1: logic and that moment. And you know, for all of

1456
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:00,840
Speaker 1: the Chiefs conversation that they would have gone for two,

1457
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 1: I'd remind everybody that they didn't go for two the

1458
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 1: entire season. So absolutely nobody is.

1459
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:10,160
Speaker 3: And he's not a go for two guy.

1460
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 2: Especially, I mean, you're you're the better team in that sense, right, Like,

1461
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:21,800
Speaker 2: ultimately what it proved was less about Shanny, I agree

1462
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:24,520
Speaker 2: with you, and more about the greatness of Mahomes.

1463
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:25,560
Speaker 6: Absolutely.

1464
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 2: I mean that's well, Like, honestly, I'm with you guys

1465
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:32,679
Speaker 2: in this sense because I think we're all talking about

1466
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:36,719
Speaker 2: the same thing. It's not a well the Niners choked

1467
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 2: or chany and choked and nine has lost the game,

1468
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:40,480
Speaker 2: blah blah blah.

1469
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 3: It's just the greatness of Mahomes. There's just only one

1470
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes.

1471
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 2: And he made every big play, whether it was with

1472
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:52,440
Speaker 2: his feet or with his arms.

1473
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 3: He made it that and their defense was great.

1474
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 2: It was it was Mahomes and the defense, which it

1475
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:02,679
Speaker 2: was all year long, And that just shows you how

1476
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 2: freaking incredible that dude is.

1477
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:10,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Andy read and you've been high on spags

1478
01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks really pointing it out loudly,

1479
01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 1: and I was thinking of you as they won that game,

1480
01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 1: because man, it just felt like it felt like everything

1481
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:21,639
Speaker 1: that the Chiefs wanted to accomplish late in that game

1482
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 1: they did right. Like there was an element where this

1483
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 1: year's Chiefs team, to me, felt like, let's keep it

1484
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:29,479
Speaker 1: close and then trust our coaches and players in the

1485
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 1: fourth quarter and it works over and old.

1486
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 2: Well that's secondary too, Like and I you know again,

1487
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:40,439
Speaker 2: you know you know that I'm very close with Steve

1488
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:44,840
Speaker 2: and you know four he's got four super Bowls, most

1489
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:49,760
Speaker 2: of any coordinator, four championships. But like this group and

1490
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:51,559
Speaker 2: I know it is because I've lived it with him,

1491
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 2: and we were talking about it the other day again

1492
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 2: how much he loves this group. This group is so

1493
01:13:56,160 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 2: special to him. They're a unique young punch with a

1494
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 2: high football IQ. Like there are players like the drafting

1495
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 2: was sensational to Land East to Land.

1496
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:13,440
Speaker 3: That group is really impressive.

1497
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:18,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you just look at the way the Chiefs

1498
01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:22,040
Speaker 1: were built this year, and I will remind everybody their

1499
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 1: offensive line was not great. They don't have a number

1500
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 1: one wide receiver, and their quarterback had the highest salary

1501
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 1: cap number of any anybody in the league. So every

1502
01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:33,880
Speaker 1: single way that you're supposed to lose football games in

1503
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:36,840
Speaker 1: the modern NFL, they still won the Super Bowl. Like,

1504
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:39,719
Speaker 1: it's never going to be more difficult for Kansas City

1505
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 1: than it was this year, and they won the Super Bowl,

1506
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 1: presuming everybody stays healthy.

1507
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 6: The worst team that Patch Mahomes has played.

1508
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:48,479
Speaker 1: On this year, it's that team.

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01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:49,599
Speaker 3: They actually had to go on the road.

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Speaker 6: How crazy is that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh yeah, And by DVA, they played the toughest

1512
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Speaker 1: schedule in history for a team getting to.

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Speaker 3: The play to the playoffs. That's amazing.

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Speaker 1: Uh kind of boys stupor real quick?

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Speaker 3: I got.

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01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 1: I just got a text from one of my buddies.

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01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:57,360
Speaker 1: Last segment, he's driving to Daytona said he's listening on

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Speaker 1: the new Orlando affiliate leg of that. Look at that

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01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:03,000
Speaker 1: just did a little affiliate action that happened already.

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Speaker 3: Gotta love it, got to love it. What's his name?

1533
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:08,040
Speaker 3: It's give me Yo, Ryan?

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01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:08,960
Speaker 1: What's up? Ryan?

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01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:12,719
Speaker 3: Ryan? You get a YO from the fellas Yo? Ryan?

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01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:16,479
Speaker 1: That so cool from you, and it just yo doesn't

1537
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:17,680
Speaker 1: ever work as well for me.

1538
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:20,680
Speaker 2: I know, I just did it. That's a shout. It's

1539
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 2: my version of a shout out as a YO. I'll

1540
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 2: give you a yo.

1541
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 1: It works for you like you say yo and it

1542
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:28,120
Speaker 1: sounds like the cool guy that's sitting outside the sandwich

1543
01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:30,720
Speaker 1: spot that's not part of the Sopranos but could be

1544
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:33,120
Speaker 1: part of the sopranos. And I'm the guy from a

1545
01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:35,040
Speaker 1: block wood. It's like YO, and it sounds like the

1546
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:37,800
Speaker 1: guy that's like reminding you you dropped your algebra book.

1547
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 1: That's the difference.

1548
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 2: No, no, no, Yo, Hey you dropped your book.

1549
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:50,520
Speaker 3: No, not at all, man, not at all. It's funny.

1550
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 2: Uh figure, he's got a good yo, right fag go ahead, Yo, Yeah.

1551
01:16:57,360 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 1: Okay, that was a good That was a good yo.

1552
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:02,080
Speaker 1: I mean that's the sort of thing like that. That's

1553
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:09,960
Speaker 1: a party tricky though right there. Actually, see, yo, what's

1554
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 1: good fam is something I can't even text it. Like

1555
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:15,280
Speaker 1: if I text that, Like, if I text, yo, what's

1556
01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:17,840
Speaker 1: good fam, that's like the I got kidnapped and help,

1557
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:22,439
Speaker 1: like that's how people know. Yo, what's good fam? Just

1558
01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:23,760
Speaker 1: does not work for me at all.

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01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 10: Oh my god, do that is terrible. That means I

1560
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 10: got kidnapped. Very good, brother, very very very good. Just

1561
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:39,600
Speaker 10: to put a bow on the on the rest of

1562
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:45,479
Speaker 10: the Super Bowl. So, ultimately, what did you learn from

1563
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:46,479
Speaker 10: this Chiefs run?

1564
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 1: That the first as screwed? I'm sorry that the rest

1565
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 1: of the AFC is just like, look, I mean, realistically,

1566
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:58,479
Speaker 1: what are the strengths of this year's NFL draft? Already

1567
01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:00,680
Speaker 1: we know the strengths of this year's NFL draft our

1568
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:03,639
Speaker 1: offensive line and wide receiver. What were there are two

1569
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 1: of the main streaks. What was the weakness of the

1570
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:11,639
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs offensive line? And wide receiver right like, So, look,

1571
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 1: I think Chris Jones is going to be a big

1572
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:14,720
Speaker 1: thing they have to figure out moving forward. But what

1573
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:18,679
Speaker 1: I learned is that the Chiefs right now are having

1574
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 1: so much fun and have so much mutual respect that

1575
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 1: everybody is truly on the same page. And we always

1576
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 1: talk about how hard it is to build culture. Sometimes

1577
01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:29,479
Speaker 1: it's hard to break culture, and I think the Chiefs

1578
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:32,599
Speaker 1: have a culture right now that feels unbreakable. Kelsey can

1579
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:35,080
Speaker 1: lose his cool and he has admitted he lost his cool,

1580
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:37,479
Speaker 1: and he can almost knock over his coach, and it

1581
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:40,519
Speaker 1: can be so wildly inappropriate, and they all brush it

1582
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:42,000
Speaker 1: off because at the end of the day, they have

1583
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:44,280
Speaker 1: respect for each other, they have love for each other,

1584
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:47,639
Speaker 1: they understand each other, and it's no big deal most

1585
01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 1: sidelines during a Super Bowl, that's not going your way.

1586
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:52,240
Speaker 1: That's just the way it's going to be. And the

1587
01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:54,639
Speaker 1: weirdest part about it is is we talked about earlier

1588
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers dominated a lot of that football game,

1589
01:18:57,720 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 1: and the whole time you just kept thinking, Man, if

1590
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 1: you leave the game close, you're not going to win it.

1591
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:04,479
Speaker 1: You're not going to beat Mahomes close, and as I

1592
01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 1: said to you before the Super Bowl, He's only lost

1593
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:09,759
Speaker 1: four games in his entire career by eight or more points,

1594
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 1: which means you got to beat Mahomes close to win

1595
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. I don't know how anybody does that.

1596
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:16,639
Speaker 1: So I think the rest of the AFC right now

1597
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:18,320
Speaker 1: needs to look in the mirror long and hard and

1598
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 1: figure out how are you possibly going to take down

1599
01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:24,200
Speaker 1: this version? Because Man, if this version of the Chiefs

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01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:27,559
Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl, I just look at it and say,

1601
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 1: why not next year, in the year after and the

1602
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:29,719
Speaker 1: year after.

1603
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:32,760
Speaker 5: My God, the tried and true stance of building with

1604
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 5: a great defense and a great quarterback you win that.

1605
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 6: That's kind of how it's always been.

1606
01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 5: That's how the Patriot dynasty was able to win, and

1607
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:41,960
Speaker 5: that's how this Kansas City dynasty keeps rolling.

1608
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:45,280
Speaker 1: Also, figure, I'll say real quick too, we learned a

1609
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:48,720
Speaker 1: definitive answer, best player or best team. We now know

1610
01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:50,800
Speaker 1: who wins that. Yep, the best player on the field

1611
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 1: when he's patching, Mahomes can beat the best team even

1612
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:53,840
Speaker 1: if they're better than.

1613
01:19:53,800 --> 01:20:02,799
Speaker 3: The chief That's a truism, man, so is who is

1614
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:05,599
Speaker 3: the next Mahomes? Like?

1615
01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:08,480
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny you can rep you can recognize

1616
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:18,240
Speaker 2: the opposite, like Dak Prescott is the opposite of Patrick Mahomes.

1617
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:21,000
Speaker 5: An interesting exercise like.

1618
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 3: Like he's not going to win.

1619
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:26,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, like it almost solidifies it even more

1620
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:32,639
Speaker 2: that he's just he's just that's the DNA. So let's

1621
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:35,400
Speaker 2: kind of discuss it. We'll go through a little exercise

1622
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:42,519
Speaker 2: fellas with you guys Fox Sports Radio. Well, good morning,

1623
01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:46,280
Speaker 2: good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning,

1624
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:56,439
Speaker 2: every buddy. Well, uh happy happy Fox Sports Saturday to

1625
01:20:56,680 --> 01:21:01,680
Speaker 2: all fellas. Jason Fitz Anthony again, Kevin Figure. It's the

1626
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:04,960
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Speaker 3: So as we begin the.

1632
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:27,080
Speaker 2: NFL off season, teams must answer the question, if not Mahomes,

1633
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:30,439
Speaker 2: what a wy guy in comparison, Because the one thing

1634
01:21:30,479 --> 01:21:35,040
Speaker 2: that you guys said was what we learned was just

1635
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 2: about the greatness of Mahomes. And look, we talk about

1636
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:40,960
Speaker 2: spags and the defense and and d and what a

1637
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:43,920
Speaker 2: great job. Andy did the whole thing, but ultimately, the

1638
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:47,920
Speaker 2: best player on the field won the Super Bowl. So

1639
01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 2: everybody else needs to be compared to that guy. So

1640
01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 2: when we look at the quarterbacks, and you know, I

1641
01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:59,720
Speaker 2: don't mean to be harsh on Dak, but Dak is

1642
01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:04,559
Speaker 2: a very good quarterback. But does he have that what

1643
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:10,640
Speaker 2: Mahomes displayed? And I think the answer is no. I

1644
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:12,639
Speaker 2: you seen the opposite, FITZI, what do you.

1645
01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 3: Think who does?

1646
01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:17,479
Speaker 1: Because I agree with you that, look, I think you

1647
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:19,759
Speaker 1: can win a Super Bowl with a very good quarterback.

1648
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:22,599
Speaker 1: Typically I do believe that. So I do believe that

1649
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 1: you can win a Super Bowl with a quarterback like Dak.

1650
01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:27,559
Speaker 1: But I also have to say that maybe part of

1651
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:31,960
Speaker 1: the reason I want to believe that is because realistically,

1652
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 1: Mahomes has a real chance of going down as being

1653
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:37,400
Speaker 1: the greatest of all time. Whether he is right now

1654
01:22:37,479 --> 01:22:39,360
Speaker 1: or not, I don't care, but he has a chance

1655
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:42,160
Speaker 1: of being that. So if the answer is, like for me,

1656
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 1: as a fan of a team in the AFC West,

1657
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 1: if the answer is we need to find our Mahomes,

1658
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:50,240
Speaker 1: then my counter to that is you're asking the team

1659
01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:53,400
Speaker 1: to draft the best quarterback of all time that doesn't

1660
01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:56,439
Speaker 1: happen very often. So, but are there mahomes e in

1661
01:22:56,600 --> 01:22:59,880
Speaker 1: like properties that's a new word for guys like Josh Allen.

1662
01:22:59,880 --> 01:23:02,760
Speaker 1: I think there are there are are there for dak Man.

1663
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:03,120
Speaker 1: I don't.

1664
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:08,800
Speaker 2: I'm just don't know, like quality of coming up big, yeah, right,

1665
01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:11,480
Speaker 2: Like I think of about the sheer greatness that mahomes

1666
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:16,799
Speaker 2: as as a quarterback, I'm talking about more. You got

1667
01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:21,280
Speaker 2: that clutch gene. It's you know, you're right, You're not.

1668
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:23,439
Speaker 2: Nobody's finding the next ma homes yet.

1669
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:25,160
Speaker 6: No one's done it consistently.

1670
01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:26,960
Speaker 5: But I mean there's guys who have I mean, you

1671
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:29,080
Speaker 5: mentioned Josh Allen, who has the ability.

1672
01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 6: Joe Burrow has done it to a certain.

1673
01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:32,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, he said, without a doubt.

1674
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 6: You know what I mean.

1675
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 1: But Joe Burrow, Joe Burrow. At this point, we need

1676
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:37,800
Speaker 1: to start saying, I want to be fair here, Joe

1677
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:40,080
Speaker 1: Burrow is injury prone, because if we are going to

1678
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:42,240
Speaker 1: say that about other quarterbacks that are knocked out, whether

1679
01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:45,960
Speaker 1: the injuries are related or not, we we tag certain

1680
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:48,240
Speaker 1: athletes with injury prone, and I don't know why we

1681
01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:50,759
Speaker 1: haven't done it with Joe Burrow. Like, I mean, Burrow

1682
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:54,000
Speaker 1: is a great quarterback, and I think absolutely if I

1683
01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:56,240
Speaker 1: had to say, there's if I had to bank my

1684
01:23:56,360 --> 01:23:58,599
Speaker 1: house on one quarterback in the AFC that I do

1685
01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:01,280
Speaker 1: think can beat Mahomes in the Chiefs, I believe that's

1686
01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. I also am wildly uncomfortable if I'm the

1687
01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:06,599
Speaker 1: Bengals with the concept of can Burrow make it through

1688
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:08,760
Speaker 1: a full season? Can I rely every year on Joe Burrow?

1689
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:11,439
Speaker 1: I mean proofs in the putting so far injury bug

1690
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:12,760
Speaker 1: has bit him every single year.

1691
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:13,880
Speaker 6: It's absolutely fair.

1692
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:17,080
Speaker 5: And look, I don't know if the down year there's

1693
01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:20,080
Speaker 5: weird stuff out in your hometown there, Anthony with Philadelphia,

1694
01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:22,160
Speaker 5: But I mean herts had a great year two years

1695
01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:24,800
Speaker 5: ago and had a lead at the half, and we

1696
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:26,840
Speaker 5: can talk about the turf and the effecting the pass

1697
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:29,360
Speaker 5: rush and all that stuff, but the narrative on him

1698
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:31,639
Speaker 5: is different if they win that game and the Chiefs don't.

1699
01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:34,400
Speaker 5: So this next season is going to be big for him.

1700
01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:36,439
Speaker 5: But I do think based on how he played two

1701
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:38,760
Speaker 5: years ago and the ability that he has and what

1702
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:42,360
Speaker 5: that offense is, that he can be that sort of player.

1703
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:44,200
Speaker 5: He just had a bad year that I'm at least

1704
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:46,840
Speaker 5: I'm hoping or that he had just a bad year

1705
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:49,320
Speaker 5: last year and this isn't more of the same. But

1706
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 5: we saw what he has the ability to be able

1707
01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:54,720
Speaker 5: to do, so I don't, if not necessarily take him

1708
01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 5: out of that category quite yet.

1709
01:24:56,520 --> 01:24:58,759
Speaker 1: But the hard part about that comp is that Mahomes

1710
01:24:58,800 --> 01:24:59,720
Speaker 1: has never had a bad year.

1711
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:02,200
Speaker 6: You're right, that's what puts them on a different level.

1712
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:07,280
Speaker 2: But I'm but I'm not comparing Mahomes's greatness to anybody else.

1713
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:11,760
Speaker 2: I'm just talking about, do you have a quarterback that

1714
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 2: can stop up, step up that has to We don't

1715
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 2: know about most of them, but like, do you have

1716
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:20,519
Speaker 2: the quarterback that could step up in a moment and

1717
01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:24,240
Speaker 2: just win you the game? Like, And this is why

1718
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:26,200
Speaker 2: I brough up that because I think that's the opposite.

1719
01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:29,320
Speaker 6: He's well, he's shown he can't do it. We've seen

1720
01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:31,000
Speaker 6: that a certain degree.

1721
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:33,600
Speaker 5: I mean, Lamar Jackson has shown that he can't do that,

1722
01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:35,600
Speaker 5: at least not yet, and he's had his opportunities in

1723
01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 5: the postseason.

1724
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:37,719
Speaker 3: It has That's a good point.

1725
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:38,679
Speaker 1: You know, that's fair.

1726
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 3: I think that's fair. That's a good point.

1727
01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:45,040
Speaker 1: For the most part. The reason I include Josh Allen

1728
01:25:45,160 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 1: in the category that you're talking about, is that I

1729
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 1: think Josh Allen has made the place. Like Josh Allen's

1730
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:52,840
Speaker 1: not the one that gave up you know, the entire

1731
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:55,479
Speaker 1: field in twelve seconds, right, you know, like there is

1732
01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:58,400
Speaker 1: I think Josh Allen has shown he can do that.

1733
01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 2: So I throw guys at you and then you vote

1734
01:26:01,360 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 2: all right, sure, so we'll start the AFC. So you say, Allen,

1735
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:10,400
Speaker 2: I agree, Figgy yep, okay, Tua.

1736
01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:13,160
Speaker 1: No, no agree? Was quick no?

1737
01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:16,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you guys.

1738
01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:18,640
Speaker 5: I mean I put two in the category of a

1739
01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:20,719
Speaker 5: guy that needs a lot of help. He's not gonna

1740
01:26:20,720 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 5: put a team on his back and carry him if

1741
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:23,960
Speaker 5: he needs to on a drive.

1742
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:27,640
Speaker 1: The way you just said that, Figgy really has me

1743
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 1: thinking about what we're qualifying here. It's not just in

1744
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:33,320
Speaker 1: my mind. It's not just the I can, I got

1745
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:36,160
Speaker 1: the clutch gene. It's the I got the clutch gene.

1746
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:39,160
Speaker 1: Everything around me may or may not be any good,

1747
01:26:39,320 --> 01:26:41,560
Speaker 1: might be falling apart, and I am gonna make a

1748
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:44,519
Speaker 1: damn play and like that is that's different. That's a

1749
01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:47,840
Speaker 1: different level of swaggy. That's exactly what we Holmes did

1750
01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:49,960
Speaker 1: in that Super Bowl, Like he made those clutch plays

1751
01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:53,800
Speaker 1: when the elements around him weren't clutch playable, you know

1752
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:55,760
Speaker 1: what I mean. So yeah, like I agree that that

1753
01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:58,120
Speaker 1: we can't put two in that category.

1754
01:26:57,720 --> 01:27:00,800
Speaker 2: Right, And again, this is not just you know, McK

1755
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:04,880
Speaker 2: mahomes is a total quarterback package. It's just that that

1756
01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:08,680
Speaker 2: he has that factor that you know that you know

1757
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:12,519
Speaker 2: why he'll bail you out, and that's kind of what

1758
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:16,120
Speaker 2: we're looking for. So I'll throw Rogers at you because

1759
01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:20,480
Speaker 2: we're going through the divisions. Do you believe that Rogers

1760
01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:23,120
Speaker 2: still has it or has ever had it? Other than

1761
01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:28,560
Speaker 2: remember he had the one, you know one well run.

1762
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:30,160
Speaker 3: God.

1763
01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:32,240
Speaker 1: I feel like he has that, right, Like, I feel

1764
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:34,200
Speaker 1: as much as I would love to say he doesn't.

1765
01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:36,439
Speaker 1: And let's see how he comes out of the Achilles thing. Like,

1766
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:39,680
Speaker 1: I think we've seen Rogers make enough plays that you're like,

1767
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:43,080
Speaker 1: how the hell did he do that? And he's so calm,

1768
01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:45,120
Speaker 1: cool and collected that, Yeah, I think he has.

1769
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:47,160
Speaker 5: I think Rogers, for the most part, in many of

1770
01:27:47,160 --> 01:27:49,880
Speaker 5: his playoff losses, is a victim of circumstance. They a

1771
01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:54,559
Speaker 5: lot of teams have lost Carthy Well circumstance. McCarthy, sure,

1772
01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:56,840
Speaker 5: you know, most I feel like the majority of his

1773
01:27:56,880 --> 01:27:59,000
Speaker 5: playoff losses, and I feel confident in saying this, We're

1774
01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:00,440
Speaker 5: not because of him.

1775
01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:04,320
Speaker 2: Agreed, all right, so we're unanimous so far, let's move

1776
01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:09,200
Speaker 2: to the north. You mentioned Lamar, you still say no,

1777
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 2: you still you know, are your steadfast with that?

1778
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 1: I feel like, man, it's hard to say about this,

1779
01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:18,720
Speaker 1: this about the m v P. But yeah, like I

1780
01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:22,400
Speaker 1: feel like so far it's a no for me, dog like,

1781
01:28:22,479 --> 01:28:24,840
Speaker 1: and it's it's not a note of the players.

1782
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:27,639
Speaker 2: Because of that one game, basically because of the Chiefs game.

1783
01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:30,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, but it's like he has a history

1784
01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:32,720
Speaker 5: that the Titans game a couple of years ago and

1785
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:34,439
Speaker 5: they had they were the number one seed in the league.

1786
01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:36,400
Speaker 5: That there's a there's a track record to a certain

1787
01:28:36,439 --> 01:28:38,160
Speaker 5: degree that that's building up against them too.

1788
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:39,680
Speaker 3: If it was just one year.

1789
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:44,120
Speaker 2: And I hear you fake, but in fairness, you know

1790
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:47,240
Speaker 2: Jay Flowers fumble wasn't on Lamar.

1791
01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:51,000
Speaker 5: No, you're right, and the play calling was atrocious. You know,

1792
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:52,439
Speaker 5: they should have ran run the ball more.

1793
01:28:52,479 --> 01:28:52,800
Speaker 6: I get it.

1794
01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:55,599
Speaker 5: And unfortunately with quarterbacks get credit for wins and they

1795
01:28:55,600 --> 01:28:58,920
Speaker 5: get the blame for losses. To the point by Aaron

1796
01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:01,360
Speaker 5: Rodgers to the I just made that a lot of

1797
01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:03,519
Speaker 5: losses weren't necessarily his fault. I don't even know if

1798
01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:06,519
Speaker 5: I can necessarily say Baltimore losing to Kansas City was

1799
01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:07,639
Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson's fault.

1800
01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:08,680
Speaker 6: Now, that interception he.

1801
01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:13,120
Speaker 3: Threw was terrible, right, and he didn't rise. Yeah, but

1802
01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:16,559
Speaker 3: I don't think he flopped either.

1803
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:19,559
Speaker 5: Well, you have to be able to make a good

1804
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:22,240
Speaker 5: decision at the at a key moment, and he he made.

1805
01:29:23,240 --> 01:29:25,280
Speaker 5: He made a terrible play when they needed him to

1806
01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:25,920
Speaker 5: make a play.

1807
01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:32,120
Speaker 2: Okay, agreed, All right, let's go further. Let's go to

1808
01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:33,320
Speaker 2: Shawn Watson.

1809
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:37,640
Speaker 6: No, I don't think so. Nope, he just hasn't had

1810
01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:39,200
Speaker 6: many opportunities to even do it either.

1811
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:44,000
Speaker 3: No, but but do you get this sense right now?

1812
01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:46,479
Speaker 5: No, he asked me five years ago coming out of

1813
01:29:46,520 --> 01:29:48,679
Speaker 5: Clemson and the way he started his career one hundred

1814
01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:50,639
Speaker 5: per Yeah, no, right now it's fair.

1815
01:29:50,680 --> 01:29:53,719
Speaker 1: But yeah, but right now, no, like he's lost whatever

1816
01:29:53,720 --> 01:29:54,439
Speaker 1: that magic is.

1817
01:29:54,640 --> 01:30:00,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed, So obviously Barrow is a is sounding. Yes,

1818
01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:04,800
Speaker 2: we talked about him. Let's go to Trevor Lawrence.

1819
01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:07,920
Speaker 6: No, terror, Lawrence is an average quarterback right now?

1820
01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:10,880
Speaker 1: Oh god, that hurts.

1821
01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:12,840
Speaker 6: It's true, dude, It's true.

1822
01:30:13,280 --> 01:30:17,360
Speaker 2: I can't argue with him and I but he is average.

1823
01:30:17,640 --> 01:30:22,040
Speaker 2: He's so disappointing. He may be my most disappointed quarterback.

1824
01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:27,879
Speaker 2: I mean he's supposed I think Herbert's all coaches, Lawrence,

1825
01:30:29,240 --> 01:30:30,240
Speaker 2: it's come up weak.

1826
01:30:30,520 --> 01:30:32,400
Speaker 6: Trevor was supposed to be Patrick Mahomes.

1827
01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:32,920
Speaker 3: He was the guy.

1828
01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:34,840
Speaker 5: This guy will be the first overall pick if he

1829
01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:37,280
Speaker 5: was a freshman like he was that guy.

1830
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:43,000
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, he was Peyton and Andrew Locke and he

1831
01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:44,759
Speaker 2: was the next iteration of those guys.

1832
01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:47,800
Speaker 1: You're right, and he hasn't lived up to any of that.

1833
01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:49,640
Speaker 1: And what I have to do is turn off what

1834
01:30:49,720 --> 01:30:52,439
Speaker 1: I saw at Clemson and only consider what I've seen

1835
01:30:52,479 --> 01:30:54,760
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville and would have seen in Jacksonville. Does not

1836
01:30:54,800 --> 01:30:55,840
Speaker 1: put him in that.

1837
01:30:55,560 --> 01:30:58,439
Speaker 2: That clach and he's had glimpses of it, which to

1838
01:30:58,720 --> 01:30:59,360
Speaker 2: you further.

1839
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:02,639
Speaker 3: But no, you're Figgie's right.

1840
01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:04,120
Speaker 6: He's vastly underachieved.

1841
01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:08,840
Speaker 3: Yes, now here's the opposite. C J.

1842
01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:14,960
Speaker 2: Stroud one year Why he gives off that I'm the man.

1843
01:31:17,479 --> 01:31:19,600
Speaker 1: I mean, he showed he had so much of that

1844
01:31:19,680 --> 01:31:22,280
Speaker 1: at Ohio State. But again, I only have one year

1845
01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:25,000
Speaker 1: body of work in the NFL, so I would say, yes,

1846
01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:27,320
Speaker 1: he has that clutch gene, but we haven't really seen

1847
01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:28,000
Speaker 1: that exercise.

1848
01:31:28,080 --> 01:31:30,639
Speaker 3: Well, he's got the makings of that of that guy.

1849
01:31:30,600 --> 01:31:32,360
Speaker 6: Based on what I've seen so far, I'd give it

1850
01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:32,640
Speaker 6: to him.

1851
01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:34,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would.

1852
01:31:35,120 --> 01:31:37,200
Speaker 2: And then I know, you know, again it's recent seed

1853
01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:39,960
Speaker 2: the whole thing. But I but I he strikes me

1854
01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:42,760
Speaker 2: as he has that. He even in the loss, he

1855
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:44,960
Speaker 2: played his ass off, right, Yeah, and.

1856
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:47,960
Speaker 1: We only have the like we have a limited amount

1857
01:31:47,960 --> 01:31:51,200
Speaker 1: of game tape in the NFL for him, right, So

1858
01:31:51,640 --> 01:31:53,320
Speaker 1: all we can do is use the tape that we have,

1859
01:31:53,840 --> 01:31:55,760
Speaker 1: and because it is limited, then we combine it with

1860
01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:57,599
Speaker 1: the tape that we know from college and that that

1861
01:31:57,680 --> 01:31:59,439
Speaker 1: makes it pretty clear. I think that he has that.

1862
01:31:59,560 --> 01:32:01,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, all right, nobody.

1863
01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:06,479
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously Richardson's too young, and you're not even

1864
01:32:06,479 --> 01:32:09,680
Speaker 2: sure about Levis about what's going on. By the way,

1865
01:32:09,680 --> 01:32:13,800
Speaker 2: I'll ask you this off of Levis, are you is

1866
01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:15,680
Speaker 2: he your guy going forward?

1867
01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:20,799
Speaker 1: If one of the four best quarterbacks in the draft falls,

1868
01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:22,880
Speaker 1: I would have to think about it. If I was

1869
01:32:22,920 --> 01:32:24,760
Speaker 1: the Titans, I don't think will Levis is the long

1870
01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:27,679
Speaker 1: term answer. I don't. I know, we've seen very little

1871
01:32:27,680 --> 01:32:30,240
Speaker 1: from him. If I'm the Titans, and I think they're

1872
01:32:30,240 --> 01:32:33,120
Speaker 1: picking at seven off the top of my head, somewhere

1873
01:32:33,160 --> 01:32:35,800
Speaker 1: in that range. If I'm the Titans and there's a

1874
01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:37,439
Speaker 1: way to move up to get one of those top three,

1875
01:32:37,479 --> 01:32:39,240
Speaker 1: I would absolutely do it. But if one of the

1876
01:32:39,240 --> 01:32:41,439
Speaker 1: top four falls to me, I'd at least think about it.

1877
01:32:41,439 --> 01:32:44,439
Speaker 1: I don't think Will Levis is long term the guy.

1878
01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:46,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, even if one of those guys doesn't fall to me,

1879
01:32:46,680 --> 01:32:49,080
Speaker 5: I don't believe I have my answer at quarterback. At worst,

1880
01:32:49,080 --> 01:32:52,240
Speaker 5: I'm drafting somebody's second third rounds of being competition with him,

1881
01:32:52,280 --> 01:32:54,280
Speaker 5: because I don't think he's that guy either.

1882
01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:55,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's a back.

1883
01:32:56,680 --> 01:33:00,839
Speaker 2: All right, Let's go to the West and obviously Raiders

1884
01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:03,080
Speaker 2: are still searching, and.

1885
01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:06,360
Speaker 3: I'll throw Herbert at you guys.

1886
01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:12,040
Speaker 2: You know, I'm gonna say, I believe in that kid,

1887
01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:14,320
Speaker 2: and I think Harball turns it all around.

1888
01:33:16,120 --> 01:33:20,640
Speaker 1: I believe in Herbert, but he hasn't done it, like repeatedly,

1889
01:33:20,760 --> 01:33:23,639
Speaker 1: he hasn't like no, I know, yeah, he needed him

1890
01:33:23,720 --> 01:33:27,120
Speaker 1: to come up big and he just hasn't happened.

1891
01:33:27,240 --> 01:33:32,960
Speaker 2: And I think it, but you're you're spot on. I

1892
01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:36,400
Speaker 2: can't argue it. I mean, he could be the af C.

1893
01:33:36,680 --> 01:33:41,200
Speaker 5: Dac Well, I won't go that far, but he does

1894
01:33:41,240 --> 01:33:43,559
Speaker 5: have it because Dak, I think just being in and

1895
01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:46,679
Speaker 5: of himself coming up small in situations. Herbert just hasn't

1896
01:33:46,680 --> 01:33:49,080
Speaker 5: been in enough big games, you know. And I think

1897
01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:51,120
Speaker 5: that's a function up to your point, coaching and the

1898
01:33:51,160 --> 01:33:54,679
Speaker 5: team around him. Uh, but he's to fit his point

1899
01:33:54,720 --> 01:33:57,080
Speaker 5: as well. There have been moments where he's come up

1900
01:33:57,120 --> 01:33:59,519
Speaker 5: small in situations as well, So I think it's sort

1901
01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:00,000
Speaker 5: of incoclin.

1902
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:02,120
Speaker 6: He has all the talent and ability.

1903
01:34:02,560 --> 01:34:05,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you're right, he hasn't been in a lot

1904
01:34:05,160 --> 01:34:08,040
Speaker 1: of those games, but the meltdown against the Jags counts

1905
01:34:08,040 --> 01:34:10,799
Speaker 1: for something. Short that Week eighteen loss to the Raiders

1906
01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:12,680
Speaker 1: was essentially a playoff.

1907
01:34:12,240 --> 01:34:14,280
Speaker 5: Game, so like, well, I mean he bowled his ass off.

1908
01:34:14,280 --> 01:34:15,880
Speaker 5: I mean that wouldn't put that on him. I mean

1909
01:34:15,880 --> 01:34:20,160
Speaker 5: he threw that off too. Yeah, that was Brandon Staley.

1910
01:34:20,560 --> 01:34:21,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that that.

1911
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:23,840
Speaker 2: He was money in that game. That was a game

1912
01:34:23,880 --> 01:34:26,799
Speaker 2: I played on like a feather in his cat.

1913
01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:29,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, but you're right, the Jacksonville loss was pretty damning.

1914
01:34:31,560 --> 01:34:34,040
Speaker 1: The Jacksonville loss could also be used as some proof

1915
01:34:34,120 --> 01:34:37,559
Speaker 1: of evidence that maybe Trevor Lawrence has a little bit. No,

1916
01:34:37,600 --> 01:34:39,599
Speaker 1: I can't do it. I'm trying to talk myself into Trevor.

1917
01:34:39,680 --> 01:34:42,120
Speaker 1: I'm trying. I'm trying here, It's just not there.

1918
01:34:42,160 --> 01:34:44,240
Speaker 5: Hey, Frank Raig led some comebacks two back in the day.

1919
01:34:44,240 --> 01:34:46,120
Speaker 5: It didn't mean that he was good as Jim Kelly.

1920
01:34:46,160 --> 01:34:48,559
Speaker 1: You know, we played by you.

1921
01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:52,960
Speaker 2: All right, and that's ce so we do like Dak

1922
01:34:53,160 --> 01:34:55,160
Speaker 2: is kind of the part of the piece that's walking

1923
01:34:55,200 --> 01:34:58,280
Speaker 2: piece here. We brought up hurts, you brought them up,

1924
01:34:58,320 --> 01:35:02,840
Speaker 2: you brought them up. Uh big, I don't know. I mean, yeah,

1925
01:35:02,840 --> 01:35:05,040
Speaker 2: it's him, you know, Yeah.

1926
01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:05,479
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1927
01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:10,360
Speaker 2: My my only my biggest worry with Jalen And again

1928
01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:14,320
Speaker 2: I put the lion's share of it on the offense

1929
01:35:14,640 --> 01:35:17,400
Speaker 2: of the coaching and the offensive playing.

1930
01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:20,960
Speaker 3: Clearly, what's just what's he good? Right?

1931
01:35:21,080 --> 01:35:25,280
Speaker 2: So he put him in a bad situation. My only

1932
01:35:25,400 --> 01:35:31,480
Speaker 2: thing is he just didn't look like a quarterback in command,

1933
01:35:31,640 --> 01:35:35,400
Speaker 2: like like the thing that scared me the most was

1934
01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:40,040
Speaker 2: how he he rushed too quick to leave the pocket

1935
01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:46,400
Speaker 2: like his quarterback. You know, spighty sense was way off

1936
01:35:47,040 --> 01:35:48,400
Speaker 2: and he's got to get that back.

1937
01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:50,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, especially as the season war on.

1938
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:52,599
Speaker 5: You know, there were moments early on when they weren't

1939
01:35:52,600 --> 01:35:55,240
Speaker 5: playing well as a team, but he found ways to

1940
01:35:55,240 --> 01:35:57,240
Speaker 5: make plays down the stretch to kind of lead them

1941
01:35:57,240 --> 01:36:00,559
Speaker 5: to victory. And so but as we mentioned that, they

1942
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:02,760
Speaker 5: struggled down the stretch. So he has that in him

1943
01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:05,839
Speaker 5: because we've seen it. I think this, this next upcoming

1944
01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:07,640
Speaker 5: season is going to be a big measuring stick for

1945
01:36:07,720 --> 01:36:10,679
Speaker 5: him because it was the tail of two years two

1946
01:36:10,720 --> 01:36:13,320
Speaker 5: years ago, then this past season complete opposites.

1947
01:36:13,600 --> 01:36:15,680
Speaker 3: Look, he's got his eyes have to be.

1948
01:36:15,720 --> 01:36:17,760
Speaker 5: Up right, And I know that was a criticism from

1949
01:36:17,760 --> 01:36:19,040
Speaker 5: a lot of folks that look at the looked at

1950
01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:21,120
Speaker 5: the film. He just he was looking at the rush

1951
01:36:21,120 --> 01:36:21,599
Speaker 5: too often.

1952
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:25,880
Speaker 1: I think command, by the way, command is a big

1953
01:36:25,880 --> 01:36:27,639
Speaker 1: part of like right now, if I had to make

1954
01:36:27,680 --> 01:36:30,639
Speaker 1: a choice between like if incomplete was not an option,

1955
01:36:31,080 --> 01:36:33,759
Speaker 1: then I would say no. But I think in compens

1956
01:36:33,960 --> 01:36:35,360
Speaker 1: of fairer response.

1957
01:36:36,240 --> 01:36:39,759
Speaker 3: Agreed, Daniel Jones. I think we all agree.

1958
01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:42,439
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, there's no there's nothing there.

1959
01:36:43,920 --> 01:36:46,519
Speaker 6: It's still surprised they gave him a contract extension.

1960
01:36:46,560 --> 01:36:47,280
Speaker 3: I can't believe.

1961
01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:51,200
Speaker 2: I still can't believe that Washingat will surpass them.

1962
01:36:51,680 --> 01:36:54,360
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I see that coming easily, right, Like.

1963
01:36:54,320 --> 01:36:56,439
Speaker 2: You know, once he get kaled, like that's going to

1964
01:36:56,479 --> 01:37:02,519
Speaker 2: be it. Ye, sorry, so let's get go to the

1965
01:37:03,920 --> 01:37:10,280
Speaker 2: NFC South. Bryce Young too early. We know the struggles

1966
01:37:10,280 --> 01:37:15,040
Speaker 2: that occurred, that happened. I rt it to Baker in Vegas.

1967
01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:20,000
Speaker 2: I'm sure you did too Goodzi. What do you make

1968
01:37:20,040 --> 01:37:23,400
Speaker 2: of Baker? Do you think, like, if you're Tampa, are

1969
01:37:23,479 --> 01:37:26,479
Speaker 2: you are you feeling good that he's your guy?

1970
01:37:27,360 --> 01:37:29,599
Speaker 1: I am, Actually I feel really good that he's my guy.

1971
01:37:30,760 --> 01:37:33,400
Speaker 1: I think Baker had and you tell me what you

1972
01:37:33,439 --> 01:37:36,439
Speaker 1: thought in Vegas. But I got to spend probably twenty

1973
01:37:36,479 --> 01:37:39,719
Speaker 1: minutes with him, and in talking to him, I asked

1974
01:37:39,760 --> 01:37:42,280
Speaker 1: him what the difference was, and you know how it

1975
01:37:42,360 --> 01:37:44,479
Speaker 1: hits differently having been in the league for a minute,

1976
01:37:44,920 --> 01:37:47,800
Speaker 1: and he talked pretty openly about how early in his

1977
01:37:48,200 --> 01:37:51,839
Speaker 1: career he felt so much pressure to be the answer

1978
01:37:51,880 --> 01:37:55,360
Speaker 1: for everything in every situation, for everybody, and this was

1979
01:37:55,400 --> 01:37:56,920
Speaker 1: the first time in his career that was like, you

1980
01:37:56,960 --> 01:37:58,960
Speaker 1: know what, I'm just going to play football, like like

1981
01:37:59,280 --> 01:38:01,760
Speaker 1: nobody thinks anything's gonna happen here anyway, so I might

1982
01:38:01,800 --> 01:38:03,479
Speaker 1: as well just enjoy this because this might be my

1983
01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:06,080
Speaker 1: last run at it, you know. And that sort of

1984
01:38:06,120 --> 01:38:09,360
Speaker 1: a mindset helped him really relax and play the game

1985
01:38:09,400 --> 01:38:10,960
Speaker 1: the way he wanted to play the game. And I'm

1986
01:38:11,320 --> 01:38:14,760
Speaker 1: I think he's got a thing about him that if

1987
01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:16,720
Speaker 1: I'm Tampa Bay, I'm comfortable with is he my home

1988
01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:18,640
Speaker 1: Does he have a my home machine? I don't know.

1989
01:38:18,720 --> 01:38:22,519
Speaker 1: I think he's got the ability to make crazy clutch plays.

1990
01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:24,240
Speaker 1: So in that sense, yeah, he's got a little bit

1991
01:38:24,280 --> 01:38:24,439
Speaker 1: of that.

1992
01:38:24,479 --> 01:38:26,320
Speaker 3: Well, that's what we're talking about. We're not talking about

1993
01:38:26,320 --> 01:38:27,160
Speaker 3: the overall skill.

1994
01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:29,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if we're talking about clutch, I think

1995
01:38:29,520 --> 01:38:31,679
Speaker 1: he has the ability to be that. If I'm Tampa Bay,

1996
01:38:31,960 --> 01:38:34,320
Speaker 1: I'm very comfortable making him you know, I want to

1997
01:38:34,320 --> 01:38:36,320
Speaker 1: make him the highest paid quarterback in the NFL. But

1998
01:38:36,400 --> 01:38:39,200
Speaker 1: I'm very comfortable giving him big, a big old fat bag.

1999
01:38:39,280 --> 01:38:39,880
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure.

2000
01:38:40,640 --> 01:38:41,920
Speaker 3: How about what do you say fit?

2001
01:38:42,040 --> 01:38:44,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, look, I think he's he's turned himself into a

2002
01:38:44,600 --> 01:38:46,880
Speaker 5: solid NFL starter. But if you're saying, is he a

2003
01:38:46,920 --> 01:38:48,479
Speaker 5: guy that can put a team on his back and

2004
01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:50,840
Speaker 5: lead him in a fourth quarter and be that guy?

2005
01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:54,479
Speaker 6: I don't think so. To be honest, I put him in.

2006
01:38:54,400 --> 01:38:56,680
Speaker 5: The category of kind of a Tua type. If he

2007
01:38:56,720 --> 01:38:58,800
Speaker 5: has enough around him and enough help, he can get

2008
01:38:58,840 --> 01:39:01,400
Speaker 5: it done. Far as like the guy that can actually

2009
01:39:01,439 --> 01:39:01,840
Speaker 5: carry you.

2010
01:39:02,080 --> 01:39:05,519
Speaker 6: I don't see it interesting.

2011
01:39:05,560 --> 01:39:08,760
Speaker 2: That's an interesting comp the two. I see it. I

2012
01:39:08,800 --> 01:39:11,599
Speaker 2: see where you're coming from. All right, let's say quick

2013
01:39:11,600 --> 01:39:13,479
Speaker 2: time out, we'll come back. We'll do the rest of

2014
01:39:13,479 --> 01:39:18,600
Speaker 2: the conference. Fun little exercise. Just as we stray from football,

2015
01:39:18,640 --> 01:39:22,840
Speaker 2: we get right back to it. It just calls us

2016
01:39:22,880 --> 01:39:32,320
Speaker 2: the Sirens song. Football fellas Fox Sports Radio fellas Jason

2017
01:39:32,320 --> 01:39:37,880
Speaker 2: fitz Kevin Figures on Anthony Gargano. So we were just

2018
01:39:37,960 --> 01:39:41,760
Speaker 2: talking about it. Mighty Mark brought this up. By the way,

2019
01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:44,800
Speaker 2: Muddy Mark and Ian in for the say, I mean

2020
01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:51,960
Speaker 2: doing a great job. Muddy Mark always exemplary. The UFL

2021
01:39:53,800 --> 01:39:56,599
Speaker 2: are you guys in on the UFL.

2022
01:40:00,240 --> 01:40:04,280
Speaker 1: Look I want to be. But I feel like I

2023
01:40:04,280 --> 01:40:06,960
Speaker 1: think a lot of fans feel. I covered the XFL

2024
01:40:07,040 --> 01:40:09,840
Speaker 1: last year, and I think what happens in this is

2025
01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:12,840
Speaker 1: that you can only have these leagues change and alter

2026
01:40:13,080 --> 01:40:15,240
Speaker 1: so many times. It just gets so hard to get

2027
01:40:15,280 --> 01:40:17,320
Speaker 1: behind something that you're not sure is going to exist

2028
01:40:17,400 --> 01:40:20,120
Speaker 1: next year. You know, like, how do you gravitate towards

2029
01:40:20,120 --> 01:40:22,680
Speaker 1: the long term fandom of something whenevery year you're not

2030
01:40:22,720 --> 01:40:24,840
Speaker 1: sure if it's going to return or what it's going

2031
01:40:24,920 --> 01:40:27,439
Speaker 1: to look like. So now we have the merger of

2032
01:40:27,920 --> 01:40:31,200
Speaker 1: you know, the USFL and the XFL together into one league.

2033
01:40:31,880 --> 01:40:36,040
Speaker 1: But you know, to me, it's really hard because as

2034
01:40:36,120 --> 01:40:39,280
Speaker 1: much as I love football, I also like, I don't

2035
01:40:39,280 --> 01:40:41,920
Speaker 1: love pouring a year of my life into Well, maybe

2036
01:40:41,960 --> 01:40:43,960
Speaker 1: this team will be around next year, maybe they won't.

2037
01:40:44,000 --> 01:40:46,200
Speaker 1: Like it just gets harder and harder to latch on

2038
01:40:46,360 --> 01:40:48,599
Speaker 1: when there's constant change around these spring leagues.

2039
01:40:49,920 --> 01:40:53,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I go back to the XFL when

2040
01:40:53,160 --> 01:40:56,200
Speaker 5: it initially made its comeback in twenty twenty, and at

2041
01:40:56,200 --> 01:40:56,720
Speaker 5: that point in.

2042
01:40:56,720 --> 01:40:59,040
Speaker 6: Time, it was doing well. You know, a lot of

2043
01:40:59,040 --> 01:40:59,840
Speaker 6: the networks through there.

2044
01:40:59,840 --> 01:41:02,080
Speaker 5: My behind it fits you mentioned working at the four

2045
01:41:02,160 --> 01:41:04,760
Speaker 5: letter at the time, Fox was involved, as it is

2046
01:41:04,840 --> 01:41:07,000
Speaker 5: now with the UFL. So if we can just get

2047
01:41:07,040 --> 01:41:09,400
Speaker 5: some sort of consistency with it and carry this thing

2048
01:41:09,479 --> 01:41:11,920
Speaker 5: over for a couple two or three years, I do

2049
01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:15,439
Speaker 5: think it could potentially build some momentum. The ratings and

2050
01:41:16,120 --> 01:41:19,280
Speaker 5: all of the innovations that they had before the pandemic

2051
01:41:19,320 --> 01:41:21,519
Speaker 5: shut the league down in twenty twenty, the XFL was

2052
01:41:21,560 --> 01:41:23,680
Speaker 5: actually getting a little bit of juice. Now, it was

2053
01:41:23,680 --> 01:41:25,640
Speaker 5: never anywhere close to the NFL, and it's not going

2054
01:41:25,720 --> 01:41:28,040
Speaker 5: to be and they're not trying to be. But I

2055
01:41:28,080 --> 01:41:30,640
Speaker 5: do think that there is a market for it. But

2056
01:41:30,680 --> 01:41:34,360
Speaker 5: I do think having a certain level of consistency is

2057
01:41:34,960 --> 01:41:36,439
Speaker 5: a big part of it. Because you had all these

2058
01:41:36,479 --> 01:41:38,639
Speaker 5: you had the Alliance of American Football, and nobody could

2059
01:41:38,680 --> 01:41:40,640
Speaker 5: find it on TV at the time. There were just

2060
01:41:40,720 --> 01:41:42,880
Speaker 5: too many competing things. One of the smartest things they

2061
01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:46,000
Speaker 5: could have done was merge these two together into one

2062
01:41:46,200 --> 01:41:49,439
Speaker 5: Super Spring League and try to survive that way. But

2063
01:41:49,520 --> 01:41:51,160
Speaker 5: I do think there's a market for it. But they

2064
01:41:51,240 --> 01:41:53,640
Speaker 5: just have to find a way to find some consistency.

2065
01:41:53,840 --> 01:41:55,960
Speaker 2: You know, they messed up the league, messed up in

2066
01:41:56,000 --> 01:42:01,960
Speaker 2: a royal way, and it happened early two thousands and

2067
01:42:02,000 --> 01:42:06,120
Speaker 2: it's when they shut down the World League.

2068
01:42:06,439 --> 01:42:08,559
Speaker 1: Oh god, I loved World League of American Football.

2069
01:42:08,840 --> 01:42:14,240
Speaker 2: So the World League was an investment of three million

2070
01:42:14,320 --> 01:42:21,640
Speaker 2: dollars per owner to keep it going, and they refused

2071
01:42:21,680 --> 01:42:23,840
Speaker 2: to keep it going, which.

2072
01:42:23,760 --> 01:42:25,160
Speaker 3: Makes no sense.

2073
01:42:26,120 --> 01:42:31,000
Speaker 2: Like for a bunch of brilliant minds, like businessmen, forward thinking,

2074
01:42:31,080 --> 01:42:34,040
Speaker 2: like you know where the world's headed, right like they were,

2075
01:42:34,280 --> 01:42:36,600
Speaker 2: they understood that at some point they had to go

2076
01:42:36,680 --> 01:42:41,400
Speaker 2: into uh, you know, great the United Kingdom and Great Britain,

2077
01:42:41,600 --> 01:42:45,200
Speaker 2: and and then ultimately Germany and or it's gonna go

2078
01:42:45,200 --> 01:42:49,519
Speaker 2: to Brazil. Like that was that was not hard to spot,

2079
01:42:50,080 --> 01:42:52,639
Speaker 2: So why wouldn't you keep it going? It was worth

2080
01:42:52,640 --> 01:42:56,080
Speaker 2: the investment to have that league, and you play that

2081
01:42:56,160 --> 01:43:00,439
Speaker 2: league in the spring like you control that as well.

2082
01:43:02,280 --> 01:43:05,439
Speaker 1: So I loved the World League. And look, I'll waste

2083
01:43:05,960 --> 01:43:08,240
Speaker 1: your time for a minute and give you my thought

2084
01:43:08,320 --> 01:43:10,400
Speaker 1: that you know it's never going to happen. But if

2085
01:43:10,400 --> 01:43:12,439
Speaker 1: I was the NFL, I would invest in a minor

2086
01:43:12,479 --> 01:43:15,320
Speaker 1: league system, even though you know we've got all these

2087
01:43:15,360 --> 01:43:17,559
Speaker 1: spring league football, Like I would put a team in

2088
01:43:17,600 --> 01:43:19,880
Speaker 1: Reno that feeds Vegas. I would put a team in

2089
01:43:19,920 --> 01:43:22,600
Speaker 1: Memphis that feeds Nashville. I'd put a team in Connecticut

2090
01:43:22,680 --> 01:43:25,519
Speaker 1: the field that feeds to the Patriots. And I would

2091
01:43:25,520 --> 01:43:28,519
Speaker 1: make practice squads essentially part of life, where you can

2092
01:43:28,600 --> 01:43:30,320
Speaker 1: have guys that are trying to fight their way up.

2093
01:43:30,360 --> 01:43:32,799
Speaker 1: Because then, as a Raiders fan, I'm going to follow

2094
01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:36,440
Speaker 1: the Reno Raiders like it's gonna happen. I'm gonna passionately

2095
01:43:36,520 --> 01:43:38,240
Speaker 1: watch it because I want to see guys that they

2096
01:43:38,400 --> 01:43:40,200
Speaker 1: might play for the team next year. So I think

2097
01:43:40,240 --> 01:43:43,120
Speaker 1: that would make that's the way spring football could become

2098
01:43:43,200 --> 01:43:47,080
Speaker 1: transcendent and actually matters if every NFL team just parked

2099
01:43:47,080 --> 01:43:49,120
Speaker 1: a team in a city close to them, and it

2100
01:43:49,160 --> 01:43:51,439
Speaker 1: would help broaden that fan base into more of the

2101
01:43:51,479 --> 01:43:52,240
Speaker 1: region that they.

2102
01:43:52,080 --> 01:43:54,840
Speaker 3: Play that plays in the spring.

2103
01:43:55,080 --> 01:43:57,160
Speaker 5: I mean, which I think is ultimately what's gonna end

2104
01:43:57,240 --> 01:43:59,200
Speaker 5: up happening. I do think there's going to end up

2105
01:43:59,240 --> 01:44:02,200
Speaker 5: being whether it's iteration of the UFL or something else

2106
01:44:02,520 --> 01:44:05,479
Speaker 5: where you're gonna have a minor league version of the

2107
01:44:05,560 --> 01:44:08,200
Speaker 5: NFL where you can delegate players and send them down

2108
01:44:08,240 --> 01:44:10,920
Speaker 5: to develop and just turn it into you know, what

2109
01:44:10,960 --> 01:44:12,920
Speaker 5: baseball has or what the g league is now to

2110
01:44:12,920 --> 01:44:15,760
Speaker 5: a certain degree with the with the NBA, I do

2111
01:44:15,800 --> 01:44:16,240
Speaker 5: think that's.

2112
01:44:16,120 --> 01:44:19,479
Speaker 1: Where we're headed. That being said, the XFL even last year,

2113
01:44:19,560 --> 01:44:22,919
Speaker 1: like the XFL did some really cool stuff on kickoffs.

2114
01:44:22,920 --> 01:44:26,200
Speaker 1: The XFL eliminated onside kicks and gave you the option

2115
01:44:26,280 --> 01:44:28,960
Speaker 1: of going for a fourth and fifteen on your own

2116
01:44:29,439 --> 01:44:31,200
Speaker 1: I think it was twenty five yard line instead of

2117
01:44:31,200 --> 01:44:34,639
Speaker 1: an onside kick. You get it and you keep the ball.

2118
01:44:34,800 --> 01:44:36,519
Speaker 1: You don't get it, the other team gets the ball

2119
01:44:36,560 --> 01:44:39,200
Speaker 1: at that spot. So, like, tell me that you wouldn't

2120
01:44:39,280 --> 01:44:42,479
Speaker 1: rather have a in a huge game Mahomes have the

2121
01:44:42,560 --> 01:44:45,120
Speaker 1: opportunity on a fourth and fifteen rather than an onside

2122
01:44:45,200 --> 01:44:48,400
Speaker 1: kick that never gets recovered. Right, So they did several things.

2123
01:44:48,439 --> 01:44:50,639
Speaker 1: I love the way they did officiating. They had Dean

2124
01:44:50,680 --> 01:44:54,080
Speaker 1: Blandino miked up where you could actually hear his reaction

2125
01:44:54,160 --> 01:44:57,240
Speaker 1: to every single replay. So like, they did things that

2126
01:44:57,280 --> 01:45:00,160
Speaker 1: I think the NFL should and has looked at.

2127
01:45:00,320 --> 01:45:03,479
Speaker 2: Would you adopt that that on side kick thing?

2128
01:45:04,080 --> 01:45:04,439
Speaker 1: Oh God?

2129
01:45:04,479 --> 01:45:06,360
Speaker 3: Which it's a little foot bogus for.

2130
01:45:06,280 --> 01:45:09,280
Speaker 1: Me really, you know, I get like I'm all in

2131
01:45:09,360 --> 01:45:11,800
Speaker 1: on just you know, I think if you're gonna have

2132
01:45:11,800 --> 01:45:13,599
Speaker 1: an on side kick, then give me a real shot

2133
01:45:13,640 --> 01:45:16,600
Speaker 1: at it. Like they just never convert the way they're

2134
01:45:16,680 --> 01:45:19,080
Speaker 1: done now, So like, what's the point of the on

2135
01:45:19,160 --> 01:45:21,920
Speaker 1: side kick when I think I see one every five

2136
01:45:22,000 --> 01:45:24,640
Speaker 1: years as a fan of my team that actually converts.

2137
01:45:24,439 --> 01:45:27,360
Speaker 5: Right, It adds an extra element of excitement to have

2138
01:45:27,439 --> 01:45:30,160
Speaker 5: a fourth and fifteen play, You know, I agree.

2139
01:45:30,240 --> 01:45:33,000
Speaker 6: I like that innovation. I thought it was smart.

2140
01:45:33,520 --> 01:45:37,000
Speaker 5: I just think it feels it feels hokey because it's

2141
01:45:37,000 --> 01:45:40,160
Speaker 5: not but not what you're used to. But to your point,

2142
01:45:40,240 --> 01:45:43,799
Speaker 5: I mean, the on side kick is like the inverse

2143
01:45:43,840 --> 01:45:44,880
Speaker 5: of the old extra point.

2144
01:45:44,960 --> 01:45:45,760
Speaker 6: It was automatic.

2145
01:45:46,200 --> 01:45:48,479
Speaker 5: Generally speaking, the team that's kicking off is not getting

2146
01:45:48,520 --> 01:45:51,800
Speaker 5: the ball back and bacon. I think I heard a

2147
01:45:51,840 --> 01:45:54,040
Speaker 5: stat during one of the playoff games it had like

2148
01:45:54,200 --> 01:45:56,080
Speaker 5: a four percent conversion rate or something.

2149
01:45:56,080 --> 01:46:00,200
Speaker 2: This year, I'll be honest with you, I think worth

2150
01:46:00,240 --> 01:46:04,320
Speaker 2: of fifteen's too short, Like it should be fourth and

2151
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Speaker 2: twenty five.

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01:46:04,920 --> 01:46:09,280
Speaker 5: There's something to be said for that in today's NFL, Like, yeah.

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01:46:09,280 --> 01:46:11,120
Speaker 2: You want to go fourth and twenty five as a

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01:46:11,479 --> 01:46:16,400
Speaker 2: on Like basically the on side kick is a ail mary, yes,

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01:46:17,400 --> 01:46:19,760
Speaker 2: and it should be ail mary should It shouldn't be

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01:46:19,880 --> 01:46:24,599
Speaker 2: easily converted, So if you have fourth and twenty five,

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01:46:24,800 --> 01:46:26,040
Speaker 2: I think it's more fair.

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01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:29,000
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be I wouldn't be mad at fourth to

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01:46:29,080 --> 01:46:32,599
Speaker 1: twenty five. I did not like the XFL's extra point system.

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01:46:32,680 --> 01:46:34,519
Speaker 1: I thought that was a little hokey for me because

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01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:36,679
Speaker 1: they did a one point two point a three point attempt.

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01:46:37,520 --> 01:46:40,360
Speaker 1: It did keep games weirdly close because all of a sudden,

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01:46:40,720 --> 01:46:43,400
Speaker 1: you know, a touchdown in a three point conversion, it

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01:46:43,400 --> 01:46:47,280
Speaker 1: turns into a nine point play. So we certainly we

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01:46:47,320 --> 01:46:49,000
Speaker 1: saw plenty of that with the XFL. I thought that

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01:46:49,040 --> 01:46:50,600
Speaker 1: was kind of interesting, but I also thought it was

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01:46:50,680 --> 01:46:51,240
Speaker 1: kind of hokey.

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Speaker 5: I do like you mentioned the Blandino the sky Judge situation.

2169
01:46:55,320 --> 01:46:57,480
Speaker 5: I think will be great. We have so many stoppages

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01:46:57,479 --> 01:47:00,280
Speaker 5: and so many replays, and people think it's just a

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01:47:00,280 --> 01:47:02,800
Speaker 5: sign of disrespect to officials to say there's replay and

2172
01:47:02,840 --> 01:47:04,880
Speaker 5: they get and it gets them wrong. We don't care.

2173
01:47:05,040 --> 01:47:07,640
Speaker 5: You're a human, you make mistakes. We shouldn't have to

2174
01:47:08,040 --> 01:47:11,040
Speaker 5: deal with those mistakes. If there's somebody up above in

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01:47:11,080 --> 01:47:14,360
Speaker 5: the sky, yeah, that can see it and correct it immediately.

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01:47:14,960 --> 01:47:16,120
Speaker 6: Done well.

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01:47:16,280 --> 01:47:18,439
Speaker 1: The fact that he was miked up made a huge

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01:47:18,439 --> 01:47:20,600
Speaker 1: difference too, because I was sitting in a room with

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01:47:21,320 --> 01:47:24,000
Speaker 1: friends covering it, and then all of a sudden you'd say, well,

2180
01:47:24,040 --> 01:47:27,080
Speaker 1: that's gotta be past interference, and then you'd actually the

2181
01:47:27,160 --> 01:47:29,760
Speaker 1: camera go straight to Blandino and he's like, I don't

2182
01:47:29,760 --> 01:47:31,719
Speaker 1: see this. I do see this, and for that reason,

2183
01:47:31,800 --> 01:47:34,680
Speaker 1: it's this and it's like, oh, okay, I mean I

2184
01:47:34,680 --> 01:47:36,160
Speaker 1: don't see it the same way, but all right, I

2185
01:47:36,280 --> 01:47:39,280
Speaker 1: understand where you're coming from. It would eliminate the conspiracy

2186
01:47:39,320 --> 01:47:41,360
Speaker 1: theorists to think that somebody from New York is just

2187
01:47:41,640 --> 01:47:44,240
Speaker 1: pulling puppet strings to make these penalties happen.

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01:47:44,479 --> 01:47:47,880
Speaker 5: Right, which, as ridiculous as it sounds, is a narrative

2189
01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:48,360
Speaker 5: out there.

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01:47:48,479 --> 01:47:51,720
Speaker 2: So I believe me, I hear you. You see it

2191
01:47:51,760 --> 01:47:54,800
Speaker 2: all the time. It's crazy, it really is. By the way,

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01:47:54,960 --> 01:47:59,400
Speaker 2: fellas from the ti rac dot com studio. Shortly into

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Speaker 2: the show. By the way, our podcast will be going up.

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2196
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Speaker 2: the podcast. Again to search Fox Sports Radio wherever you

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01:48:13,280 --> 01:48:16,320
Speaker 2: get your podcast you'll see this show posted right after

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Speaker 2: we get off the air. Uh, we're not missing anything

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01:48:19,880 --> 01:48:22,160
Speaker 2: training wise, Figgie, I mean I don't believe so.

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Speaker 3: I mean Tiger ball because he's sick.

2202
01:48:25,600 --> 01:48:29,599
Speaker 2: The Carolina Panthers, Uh beat the Coyotes and the only

2203
01:48:30,920 --> 01:48:32,960
Speaker 2: NFL game, right.

2204
01:48:33,560 --> 01:48:36,240
Speaker 6: And then Panthers whatever.

2205
01:48:36,680 --> 01:48:41,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were talking football, so Panthers not the Canes, Arick,

2206
01:48:42,040 --> 01:48:42,320
Speaker 2: why not?

2207
01:48:42,680 --> 01:48:45,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. And uh, you're all there.

2208
01:48:45,520 --> 01:48:50,320
Speaker 1: Thinking player than a football player throwing shape.

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Speaker 6: You know, it's funny you're signing with Mary Phil but

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01:48:55,280 --> 01:48:55,840
Speaker 6: we can we can.

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01:48:56,120 --> 01:48:59,280
Speaker 2: Actually, that's it. I'll be honest with you. That was

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01:48:59,320 --> 01:48:59,960
Speaker 2: a great sign.

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01:49:00,400 --> 01:49:01,400
Speaker 6: It's phenomenal signing.

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01:49:01,800 --> 01:49:04,920
Speaker 3: Great signing for the that's I love that signing.

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01:49:05,000 --> 01:49:07,320
Speaker 2: I was really excited about that, but I didn't want

2216
01:49:07,320 --> 01:49:09,519
Speaker 2: to you know, that's all right, you know, under the

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01:49:09,560 --> 01:49:11,360
Speaker 2: little overboard on that and get it.

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01:49:11,439 --> 01:49:12,880
Speaker 3: I actually like hockey, so.

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01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:18,960
Speaker 2: Forgive my little it's quite all right, Football Carolina Panthers.

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01:49:19,120 --> 01:49:22,519
Speaker 2: I was just basically showing it that Figgi is uh

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01:49:22,760 --> 01:49:24,080
Speaker 2: has better use of his time.

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01:49:25,280 --> 01:49:27,240
Speaker 3: Who as part of the show.

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01:49:27,120 --> 01:49:28,280
Speaker 6: In this particular situation.

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01:49:28,360 --> 01:49:31,880
Speaker 2: Absolutely, always, we always prefer you to be part of

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01:49:31,920 --> 01:49:34,720
Speaker 2: the show, all right, we you know that's what you are.

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01:49:34,800 --> 01:49:37,639
Speaker 2: You're it's the show. It's the three of us. That's

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01:49:37,640 --> 01:49:39,440
Speaker 2: how we look at it, right FITZI.

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01:49:39,680 --> 01:49:41,599
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, of course, like that's why it's the fellos.

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01:49:41,640 --> 01:49:44,760
Speaker 1: And yeah, I think you know, if from now on,

2230
01:49:44,880 --> 01:49:47,200
Speaker 1: the new tradition when there's nothing on trending that we

2231
01:49:47,240 --> 01:49:49,600
Speaker 1: really like, is you should just make teams up and

2232
01:49:49,640 --> 01:49:52,280
Speaker 1: then see if anybody notices your genius.

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01:49:53,280 --> 01:49:53,880
Speaker 3: I like it.

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01:49:54,600 --> 01:49:57,320
Speaker 2: I'll do that to Saint Louis RedHawks last night beat

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01:49:57,400 --> 01:49:58,920
Speaker 2: the Coyotes.

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01:49:58,560 --> 01:50:03,479
Speaker 5: Well, Zi and through three touchdown passes for the for

2237
01:50:03,560 --> 01:50:07,000
Speaker 5: the Saints tonight, just and.

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01:50:07,000 --> 01:50:08,640
Speaker 1: Just don't even give city names, so he'd be like

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01:50:08,680 --> 01:50:11,080
Speaker 1: the yard Dogs beat the RedHawks for the tooth, and

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Speaker 1: then somebody's gonna be looking at Google and be like,

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01:50:13,080 --> 01:50:15,919
Speaker 1: what the hell are they talking about? Like these teams

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01:50:17,439 --> 01:50:18,480
Speaker 1: yard Dogs undefeated?

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01:50:21,080 --> 01:50:21,720
Speaker 3: All right, let me.

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01:50:21,720 --> 01:50:24,360
Speaker 2: Get back because we didn't finish the NFC real quick,

2245
01:50:24,400 --> 01:50:26,320
Speaker 2: so I want to go back to it. So these

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01:50:26,320 --> 01:50:30,120
Speaker 2: are the quarterbacks that can make a difference, right, So

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01:50:30,160 --> 01:50:35,840
Speaker 2: we went over the south. Uh, let's look at the north. Like,

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01:50:37,040 --> 01:50:40,599
Speaker 2: if you're if you got Cousins, how do you feel?

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01:50:42,600 --> 01:50:46,960
Speaker 1: So Cousins is so polarizing for so many people because

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Speaker 1: of the money he's made. If you take the money aside,

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01:50:50,439 --> 01:50:52,479
Speaker 1: and they just to associate that, Hey I don't I

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01:50:52,520 --> 01:50:54,280
Speaker 1: don't really care how my own are spend their money.

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01:50:54,600 --> 01:50:56,479
Speaker 1: Now we got to ask who is Kirk Cousins. Kirk

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01:50:56,520 --> 01:50:59,519
Speaker 1: Cousins is the type of quarterback they can absolutely throw

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Speaker 1: on anyone and he can put up a bunch of yards.

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Speaker 1: Is if I got one drive to beat the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl? Am I trusted? Like? Am I

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01:51:07,040 --> 01:51:09,479
Speaker 1: trusting Kirk Cousins to be that guy for that drive?

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01:51:09,600 --> 01:51:09,640
Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like that's sort of what

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01:51:11,800 --> 01:51:14,120
Speaker 1: we're talking about here, Like one drive left you got

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01:51:14,120 --> 01:51:16,640
Speaker 1: to be able to beat Mahomes. Can you do it?

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Speaker 1: I don't like Cousins doesn't move my soul for that,

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01:51:21,080 --> 01:51:21,320
Speaker 1: does he?

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Speaker 3: For you?

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01:51:21,680 --> 01:51:21,960
Speaker 1: Figure?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely not a thousand percent with you. Excellent quarterback for

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01:51:25,960 --> 01:51:28,280
Speaker 5: a seventeen game season can get you to the playoffs.

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Speaker 5: But if I need you one drive, I can think

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01:51:30,920 --> 01:51:32,840
Speaker 5: of a few other people I'd rather have behind center

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Speaker 5: than him.

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Speaker 1: The wire like this. This makes me rethink the entire

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01:51:40,479 --> 01:51:43,040
Speaker 1: draft the way you're talking about like, because I think

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01:51:43,080 --> 01:51:45,880
Speaker 1: it's a combination of all things. Okay, fine, but I

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01:51:45,920 --> 01:51:49,640
Speaker 1: wonder how different the conversation is when you're evaluating quarterbacks

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01:51:49,840 --> 01:51:52,439
Speaker 1: if instead of starting with well can they make the throws?

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01:51:52,479 --> 01:51:54,600
Speaker 1: And can they do all these things? Asking yourself, I

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01:51:54,680 --> 01:51:57,960
Speaker 1: got one drive to beat the Chiefs in the Super Bowl?

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01:51:58,280 --> 01:52:00,880
Speaker 1: Can this guy do that? Like that? That's so much different.

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01:52:01,120 --> 01:52:04,439
Speaker 1: I wonder if we would weigh the draft quarterbacks differently,

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01:52:04,560 --> 01:52:07,599
Speaker 1: if we were taking that conversation into you. That's just

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01:52:07,600 --> 01:52:10,479
Speaker 1: just an aside. Is you've opened my eyes because to

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01:52:10,800 --> 01:52:12,280
Speaker 1: the way we should think about quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: I'll ask you out fields then yeah, absolutely not. No,

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01:52:19,920 --> 01:52:26,840
Speaker 3: Well you have if you're the stealers or the falcons.

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01:52:27,760 --> 01:52:29,640
Speaker 1: I think if you're the steelers of the Falcons, you're

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01:52:29,680 --> 01:52:33,000
Speaker 1: trading for them because there's no better option. So now

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01:52:33,040 --> 01:52:35,479
Speaker 1: your biological clock is ticking and you just want to

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01:52:35,520 --> 01:52:38,000
Speaker 1: get married. So now you're just forgetting everything that you've

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01:52:38,000 --> 01:52:40,479
Speaker 1: ever stood for, for the standards that you want. You

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01:52:40,600 --> 01:52:42,439
Speaker 1: just want, you just want to pop out a baby,

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01:52:42,600 --> 01:52:46,360
Speaker 1: and you're like, look, look like look, not really my

2293
01:52:46,439 --> 01:52:49,559
Speaker 1: cup of tea, but you know, the clock's ticking and

2294
01:52:49,600 --> 01:52:52,760
Speaker 1: I'm ready to start a family. And what happens ninety

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01:52:52,840 --> 01:52:54,400
Speaker 1: nine percent of the time when that's the reason you

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01:52:54,439 --> 01:52:57,320
Speaker 1: get married, you end up unhappily divorced. When the kids

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01:52:57,320 --> 01:52:59,120
Speaker 1: are you know, old enough that you can move out

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01:52:59,160 --> 01:53:01,719
Speaker 1: of the house, so that's fields with wherever he goes.

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01:53:01,800 --> 01:53:04,920
Speaker 1: It's just like or you're like, you know what, I'll

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01:53:04,960 --> 01:53:07,200
Speaker 1: settle for Fields, And as soon as we've both gotten

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01:53:07,200 --> 01:53:09,599
Speaker 1: what we need out of this relationship, separate ways.

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01:53:09,640 --> 01:53:11,360
Speaker 5: So you just end up staying together longer than you

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01:53:11,400 --> 01:53:13,320
Speaker 5: should because it's for the kids. And but before the

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01:53:13,360 --> 01:53:15,160
Speaker 5: kids in this situation is while I'm getting paid a

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01:53:15,160 --> 01:53:17,439
Speaker 5: lot of money, so we got going to pay him

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01:53:17,439 --> 01:53:18,800
Speaker 5: not to play for us, so we might as well

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01:53:18,880 --> 01:53:19,240
Speaker 5: keep them.

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01:53:19,280 --> 01:53:20,439
Speaker 6: It's cheaper to keep her.

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01:53:20,880 --> 01:53:22,840
Speaker 1: So, oh god, you're so right.

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Speaker 5: If Arthur Smith was still the head coach in Atlanta,

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01:53:25,280 --> 01:53:27,599
Speaker 5: I think Justin Fields will will make a lot more sense.

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01:53:28,640 --> 01:53:31,160
Speaker 5: But outside of that, I've never been the biggest fan

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01:53:31,200 --> 01:53:33,599
Speaker 5: of his. That's always been smoking mirrors with me when

2314
01:53:33,640 --> 01:53:36,960
Speaker 5: it comes to him, So I I know that's that's

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01:53:37,000 --> 01:53:38,280
Speaker 5: a giant no. And I don't know if I want

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01:53:38,320 --> 01:53:40,280
Speaker 5: him as my starring quarterback in any capacity. To be

2317
01:53:40,280 --> 01:53:45,880
Speaker 5: honest with you, I'm still kicking over that analogy. That

2318
01:53:46,040 --> 01:53:52,599
Speaker 5: was one of the great analogies. Oh my god.

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01:53:52,640 --> 01:53:54,160
Speaker 2: All right, I'll give you a guy that has it,

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01:53:55,680 --> 01:53:58,240
Speaker 2: and that I think all day long.

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01:53:58,360 --> 01:53:59,200
Speaker 3: It's Jordan Love.

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01:54:00,280 --> 01:54:02,759
Speaker 6: Certainly looks like it, doesn't it.

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01:54:02,960 --> 01:54:06,479
Speaker 1: Jordan Love really impressed me in Vegas too, because, like

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01:54:07,400 --> 01:54:08,720
Speaker 1: I spent some good time with him.

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01:54:08,760 --> 01:54:12,200
Speaker 3: Also, how fun was he? He was one of my favorites,

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01:54:12,960 --> 01:54:13,200
Speaker 3: you know.

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01:54:13,240 --> 01:54:15,400
Speaker 1: The crazy thing. The first thing I just as we

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01:54:15,400 --> 01:54:17,000
Speaker 1: were getting him miked up and get ready to do

2329
01:54:17,040 --> 01:54:19,040
Speaker 1: the interview with him, I asked, I was like, hey,

2330
01:54:19,080 --> 01:54:23,000
Speaker 1: I just human moment here. You hear what everybody had

2331
01:54:23,000 --> 01:54:24,920
Speaker 1: to say? It feel good, feel good to just like

2332
01:54:25,040 --> 01:54:27,559
Speaker 1: you know, to shove it to a lot of people,

2333
01:54:28,120 --> 01:54:30,120
Speaker 1: and he got the biggest smile and he's like you,

2334
01:54:30,320 --> 01:54:32,360
Speaker 1: like you wouldn't believe. It's like I hear every ounce

2335
01:54:32,400 --> 01:54:34,160
Speaker 1: of it, heard every ounce of it, and I knew

2336
01:54:34,200 --> 01:54:36,640
Speaker 1: what everybody thought, and I knew I was gonna be

2337
01:54:36,720 --> 01:54:40,080
Speaker 1: just fine, And like there was a you know, a

2338
01:54:40,200 --> 01:54:43,200
Speaker 1: confidence and a swagger, but also like a joy to

2339
01:54:43,280 --> 01:54:46,160
Speaker 1: the whole process for him that like, you know, it

2340
01:54:46,360 --> 01:54:50,040
Speaker 1: just really I think, having not spent any time with him,

2341
01:54:50,040 --> 01:54:52,640
Speaker 1: I presume that there was some sort of a shadow

2342
01:54:52,680 --> 01:54:55,240
Speaker 1: of Aaron Rodgers. And I even asked him what to

2343
01:54:55,360 --> 01:54:56,800
Speaker 1: go back to the day he got the call that

2344
01:54:56,840 --> 01:54:59,880
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers was being traded, and all he talked about

2345
01:55:00,160 --> 01:55:02,960
Speaker 1: was like joy and confidence and happiness, you know. And

2346
01:55:03,000 --> 01:55:05,120
Speaker 1: I just I think Jordan Love has a lot more

2347
01:55:05,160 --> 01:55:07,960
Speaker 1: IT factor than I realized that by by hanging out

2348
01:55:07,960 --> 01:55:10,600
Speaker 1: with him. So yeah, I think I think he's growing

2349
01:55:10,640 --> 01:55:12,560
Speaker 1: into that that sort of guy that you think could

2350
01:55:12,600 --> 01:55:13,240
Speaker 1: have that clutch GI.

2351
01:55:13,360 --> 01:55:14,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure, I agree.

2352
01:55:14,560 --> 01:55:17,560
Speaker 5: They just the amount of moxy, this the growth that

2353
01:55:17,600 --> 01:55:19,680
Speaker 5: he showed from the beginning of the season to the end.

2354
01:55:19,680 --> 01:55:21,360
Speaker 5: I mean, people are saying this guy is a bum

2355
01:55:21,360 --> 01:55:23,360
Speaker 5: and he's a bust. The first five weeks of the season,

2356
01:55:23,360 --> 01:55:26,040
Speaker 5: the offense couldn't do anything, and he just got better

2357
01:55:26,120 --> 01:55:28,920
Speaker 5: and better and better. And you know, if not for

2358
01:55:29,000 --> 01:55:31,480
Speaker 5: a couple of unfortunate you know, instances in that game

2359
01:55:31,520 --> 01:55:33,600
Speaker 5: and gets in San Francisco, they win that game. I

2360
01:55:33,640 --> 01:55:35,000
Speaker 5: know we got the big pick at the end of

2361
01:55:35,000 --> 01:55:38,040
Speaker 5: the game, but I mean you can argue they should

2362
01:55:38,040 --> 01:55:39,800
Speaker 5: have won. You went into Dallas and random off of

2363
01:55:39,800 --> 01:55:42,000
Speaker 5: their own home field and your first playoff game as

2364
01:55:42,000 --> 01:55:43,400
Speaker 5: a starter, correct.

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Speaker 6: I mean, that's that's impressive.

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01:55:45,880 --> 01:55:49,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they I gotta tell you, I mean,

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01:55:49,680 --> 01:55:51,240
Speaker 2: I think the Packers are nasty.

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01:55:51,360 --> 01:55:54,080
Speaker 3: Next year, I think they're nasty.

2369
01:55:54,480 --> 01:55:58,680
Speaker 6: All that youth throwing together, and they're well coached.

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01:55:59,080 --> 01:56:02,640
Speaker 2: They just don't well coached. I load up with some

2371
01:56:02,680 --> 01:56:05,880
Speaker 2: defense and then let's go. I think they're gonna be

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01:56:06,440 --> 01:56:07,360
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna be good.

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01:56:07,640 --> 01:56:09,800
Speaker 5: I can coordinator change certainly helps. I don't think Joe

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01:56:09,840 --> 01:56:10,600
Speaker 5: Barry was that guy.

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01:56:10,920 --> 01:56:12,520
Speaker 3: No, I don't either. I don't either.

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01:56:13,400 --> 01:56:16,600
Speaker 2: All right, let's take a quick tea out. We'll come

2377
01:56:16,680 --> 01:56:22,080
Speaker 2: right back. Fellas hanging right here on a Fox Sports Saturday.

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01:56:23,000 --> 01:56:30,040
Speaker 2: Fellas from the Tire IRAQ dot Com Studios.

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01:56:30,120 --> 01:56:33,160
Speaker 3: Jason Fitz Kevin figures of Anthony Garganell.

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01:56:34,080 --> 01:56:38,000
Speaker 2: Fitzy Figgy because that's who we are and uh and

2381
01:56:38,040 --> 01:56:38,560
Speaker 2: we're with you.

2382
01:56:40,320 --> 01:56:44,160
Speaker 3: So, just getting back to the Lebron.

2383
01:56:45,240 --> 01:56:49,040
Speaker 2: Trade figure, what was like what I mean, I'm sure

2384
01:56:49,080 --> 01:56:52,240
Speaker 2: it was like bombshell kind of thing, just that conversation.

2385
01:56:54,000 --> 01:56:57,240
Speaker 2: How close do you think Lebron would have you think

2386
01:56:57,240 --> 01:56:58,880
Speaker 2: there would be any interest on his part?

2387
01:56:59,160 --> 01:56:59,960
Speaker 6: No?

2388
01:57:00,120 --> 01:57:04,800
Speaker 5: Not really his stated goal and anthink Rich Paul reiterated

2389
01:57:04,840 --> 01:57:06,520
Speaker 5: it a couple of days after that that he was

2390
01:57:06,520 --> 01:57:09,840
Speaker 5: committed to the Lakers and always has been. And he look,

2391
01:57:10,160 --> 01:57:12,600
Speaker 5: we know that Lebron James has always been passive, aggressive

2392
01:57:12,640 --> 01:57:15,480
Speaker 5: with a lot of things and putting out tweets and he.

2393
01:57:15,480 --> 01:57:16,040
Speaker 6: Tries to act.

2394
01:57:16,280 --> 01:57:18,080
Speaker 5: He tries to say, you'll speak out of one side

2395
01:57:18,080 --> 01:57:20,200
Speaker 5: of his mouth and say something different with his with

2396
01:57:20,200 --> 01:57:23,160
Speaker 5: his actions. But ultimately he has a fifty one million

2397
01:57:23,200 --> 01:57:25,160
Speaker 5: dollar player option next year for the Lakers. They can

2398
01:57:25,200 --> 01:57:28,120
Speaker 5: pay him more than anybody else outside of the basketball

2399
01:57:28,120 --> 01:57:29,720
Speaker 5: aspect of it. A big reason why he came to

2400
01:57:29,760 --> 01:57:33,120
Speaker 5: Los Angeles was for other business ventures unless the Laker

2401
01:57:33,200 --> 01:57:35,960
Speaker 5: franchise was just to go you know totally, you know,

2402
01:57:36,120 --> 01:57:39,240
Speaker 5: into the can and Anthony Davis gets hurt or something

2403
01:57:39,280 --> 01:57:41,120
Speaker 5: and they're they're not going to be able to compete

2404
01:57:41,120 --> 01:57:43,960
Speaker 5: for championships, the roster blows up. Outside of that, I

2405
01:57:44,040 --> 01:57:46,280
Speaker 5: really don't see a situation where he'd wants to leave.

2406
01:57:46,480 --> 01:57:49,200
Speaker 5: So I think it's Look, you can say it's due

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01:57:49,200 --> 01:57:51,800
Speaker 5: diligence on the Warriors part for calling sure why not?

2408
01:57:51,960 --> 01:57:54,520
Speaker 5: And Darryl moriy for calling why not? I guess what

2409
01:57:54,560 --> 01:57:56,120
Speaker 5: does it hurt if you want to do it? And

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01:57:56,200 --> 01:57:58,000
Speaker 5: Draymond Green is a good friend of Lebron James and

2411
01:57:58,040 --> 01:58:00,400
Speaker 5: he wanted to inquire. There's nothing wrong with acquiring, But

2412
01:58:00,440 --> 01:58:04,040
Speaker 5: as far as it actually happening, I really don't see it.

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01:58:05,000 --> 01:58:06,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I hear you.

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01:58:06,200 --> 01:58:06,400
Speaker 1: Man.

2415
01:58:06,880 --> 01:58:10,760
Speaker 2: It's funny because when the Sixers when because Darryl Morrey

2416
01:58:10,840 --> 01:58:14,640
Speaker 2: tried it correct, it made it made perfect sense, like hey,

2417
01:58:14,760 --> 01:58:17,240
Speaker 2: you know, let's like kick the tires.

2418
01:58:17,280 --> 01:58:19,560
Speaker 3: Like what do you think it? You know?

2419
01:58:19,840 --> 01:58:23,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think guys, there's a problem with the conversation.

2420
01:58:23,320 --> 01:58:25,840
Speaker 1: Like if I was a GM of any team, I

2421
01:58:25,840 --> 01:58:30,920
Speaker 1: would call it's obvious that Lebron has some sort of unhappiness. Now,

2422
01:58:31,360 --> 01:58:34,040
Speaker 1: maybe there's no solution to it, but it's also to

2423
01:58:34,120 --> 01:58:36,680
Speaker 1: me fairly obvious that the Lakers are nowhere near a

2424
01:58:36,760 --> 01:58:39,680
Speaker 1: championship team right now. So if I think that I

2425
01:58:39,720 --> 01:58:42,680
Speaker 1: can offer Lebron the sales pitch of hey, you want

2426
01:58:42,680 --> 01:58:45,080
Speaker 1: to come over here, and when a chip like we

2427
01:58:45,160 --> 01:58:48,240
Speaker 1: can do that to me, it's worth making the phone call.

2428
01:58:48,320 --> 01:58:50,680
Speaker 1: Like and also, if I'm the Lakers and I get

2429
01:58:50,720 --> 01:58:53,040
Speaker 1: the phone call, I think it's worth talking to Lebron

2430
01:58:53,080 --> 01:58:55,760
Speaker 1: about because if you respect him, you don't want him

2431
01:58:55,760 --> 01:58:57,840
Speaker 1: to find out there's somebody else that you didn't even

2432
01:58:57,880 --> 01:58:59,800
Speaker 1: talk to him about the call, Like you've got to

2433
01:58:59,840 --> 01:59:02,360
Speaker 1: super star that has a hand in absolutely everything you do. Like,

2434
01:59:02,400 --> 01:59:04,840
Speaker 1: I honestly don't think there's a lot of drama here.

2435
01:59:04,880 --> 01:59:07,400
Speaker 1: I think organizations did a smart thing by calling. The

2436
01:59:07,440 --> 01:59:09,600
Speaker 1: Lakers did a smart thing by talking to Lebron to

2437
01:59:09,640 --> 01:59:12,280
Speaker 1: see what he wanted to do. And frankly, Lebron probably

2438
01:59:12,280 --> 01:59:14,760
Speaker 1: did a smart thing and decided to stay with the Lakers.

2439
01:59:14,800 --> 01:59:16,320
Speaker 1: Like all of this sort of stacks up in a

2440
01:59:16,360 --> 01:59:17,120
Speaker 1: normal way for me.

2441
01:59:17,400 --> 01:59:20,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, the Lakers definitely did right by him by saying, hey, look,

2442
01:59:20,640 --> 01:59:22,520
Speaker 5: we got a call, and you know what do you think?

2443
01:59:23,080 --> 01:59:25,120
Speaker 5: I think that's that's the respect, as opposed to just

2444
01:59:25,120 --> 01:59:27,280
Speaker 5: saying no, not happening. We're never trading them.

2445
01:59:27,560 --> 01:59:27,840
Speaker 3: I think.

2446
01:59:27,840 --> 01:59:29,280
Speaker 5: I do think they handle it the right way. They

2447
01:59:29,280 --> 01:59:31,280
Speaker 5: probably gained some brownie points with them if they needed

2448
01:59:31,320 --> 01:59:32,440
Speaker 5: to by doing.

2449
01:59:32,240 --> 01:59:33,440
Speaker 3: That, I know.

2450
01:59:35,680 --> 01:59:38,720
Speaker 1: But also, if he really wanted to win another championship,

2451
01:59:38,760 --> 01:59:41,160
Speaker 1: if that was everything to him right now, he would

2452
01:59:41,160 --> 01:59:43,440
Speaker 1: have taken the call. Because he ain't winning one with

2453
01:59:43,520 --> 01:59:46,760
Speaker 1: the Lakers. We all know that they're as good as done.

2454
01:59:47,120 --> 01:59:50,680
Speaker 1: So I do think it's an interesting where he realized.

2455
01:59:51,520 --> 01:59:55,360
Speaker 2: I part of me kept thiguring about the Knicks because

2456
01:59:55,360 --> 01:59:56,680
Speaker 2: that's his last frontier.

2457
01:59:59,600 --> 02:00:01,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, but wouldn't you have to trade away a lot

2458
02:00:01,640 --> 02:00:03,400
Speaker 5: of assets that would end up helping you build the

2459
02:00:03,440 --> 02:00:05,200
Speaker 5: title team with him? All I got you in the

2460
02:00:05,240 --> 02:00:07,680
Speaker 5: same situation where it's him and Brunson and a bunch

2461
02:00:07,720 --> 02:00:10,240
Speaker 5: of guys, whereas now is him and Anthony Davis and

2462
02:00:10,280 --> 02:00:10,920
Speaker 5: a bunch of guys.

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02:00:11,480 --> 02:00:14,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I feel you.

2464
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Speaker 2: All right, We're the Fellas Big Last Hour coming up

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Speaker 2: next Radio Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: So we've reached all my condolence as friends because we've

2477
02:01:02,560 --> 02:01:07,240
Speaker 2: reached that point in the calendar where life is bleak.

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02:01:08,280 --> 02:01:09,520
Speaker 3: It's the time.

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Speaker 1: That was beautifully So I'm sorry that life is bleak

2480
02:01:17,840 --> 02:01:18,760
Speaker 1: and I'm over here laughing.

2481
02:01:18,800 --> 02:01:23,280
Speaker 3: Go ahead, Well you have Galla's humor. I mean, what

2482
02:01:23,320 --> 02:01:26,560
Speaker 3: else you's supposed to do but laugh your way through?

2483
02:01:27,320 --> 02:01:31,760
Speaker 9: No football on a Saturday afternoon in freaking February.

2484
02:01:32,320 --> 02:01:33,560
Speaker 3: It's President's Day.

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02:01:34,200 --> 02:01:37,560
Speaker 2: The other aspect of this freaking thing that makes those

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02:01:37,720 --> 02:01:42,040
Speaker 2: sense is President's Day is Monday. How many times are

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02:01:42,040 --> 02:01:45,840
Speaker 2: we all going to say, play the super Bowl this

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02:01:45,960 --> 02:01:48,839
Speaker 2: week so everybody's off on Monday?

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02:01:50,720 --> 02:01:52,520
Speaker 1: It makes total sense to me. I don't know why

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02:01:52,520 --> 02:01:55,840
Speaker 1: they don't like they just pushed the whole season back

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02:01:55,880 --> 02:01:58,800
Speaker 1: a week, or if you wanted to have.

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02:01:58,720 --> 02:02:01,520
Speaker 2: To double bye you're gonna do anyway. You're probably at

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02:02:01,560 --> 02:02:03,680
Speaker 2: a game, do whatever. By week double.

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02:02:03,400 --> 02:02:06,800
Speaker 1: Bye, bye week suck all right, bye Week's of the worst,

2495
02:02:06,920 --> 02:02:09,480
Speaker 1: Like I still want what I still this is my

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02:02:09,800 --> 02:02:12,240
Speaker 1: you know, Roger, call me Rogie, Roger, call me. I

2497
02:02:12,240 --> 02:02:15,040
Speaker 1: got you. I'll fix this for you. What we do

2498
02:02:15,120 --> 02:02:17,440
Speaker 1: is we start the season a week later. Okay, we

2499
02:02:17,520 --> 02:02:19,520
Speaker 1: only have one by We put it in the middle

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02:02:19,560 --> 02:02:21,960
Speaker 1: of the season for the entire league. Everybody gets the

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02:02:22,200 --> 02:02:24,600
Speaker 1: you know, everybody plays eight games. Then the middle of

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02:02:24,640 --> 02:02:28,480
Speaker 1: the season, they they broadcast those tournament things like they

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02:02:28,560 --> 02:02:30,720
Speaker 1: used to do the quarterback challenges and everything like they

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02:02:30,720 --> 02:02:32,680
Speaker 1: do with the Pro Bowl. Now they filmed those in

2505
02:02:32,720 --> 02:02:35,000
Speaker 1: the off season. We get to see it all during

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02:02:35,080 --> 02:02:37,080
Speaker 1: the middle of the week where you know, they throw

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02:02:37,120 --> 02:02:38,800
Speaker 1: the ball at targets and do all that stuff. We

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02:02:38,840 --> 02:02:40,960
Speaker 1: have a good time. We watch fat guys play dodgeball.

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02:02:41,080 --> 02:02:45,880
Speaker 2: Actually, if you want to go with a league bye, yeah,

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02:02:45,920 --> 02:02:50,440
Speaker 2: then which first I hated it, but as I think

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02:02:50,480 --> 02:02:54,960
Speaker 2: about it now, you don't You don't do just like

2512
02:02:55,120 --> 02:02:59,200
Speaker 2: you know, parlor tricks. You just put college football on Sundays.

2513
02:03:00,080 --> 02:03:03,040
Speaker 1: Oh that's actually that's a great idea to do a

2514
02:03:03,120 --> 02:03:06,520
Speaker 1: league by and then college football could program around it.

2515
02:03:06,640 --> 02:03:11,080
Speaker 1: Oh yes, see oh, look at it. See now, and

2516
02:03:11,120 --> 02:03:13,640
Speaker 1: then if you want to give an extra week, you

2517
02:03:13,800 --> 02:03:17,680
Speaker 1: could consider at the end of the regular season giving

2518
02:03:17,720 --> 02:03:20,160
Speaker 1: everybody a one week by before the playoffs start, and

2519
02:03:20,360 --> 02:03:22,320
Speaker 1: uh then all of a sudden start the playoffs a

2520
02:03:22,360 --> 02:03:24,480
Speaker 1: week later, and that would put us right to President's Day.

2521
02:03:25,440 --> 02:03:26,880
Speaker 1: I've solved the NFL roger.

2522
02:03:27,440 --> 02:03:31,040
Speaker 2: I mean, the only thing about the double BUYE that

2523
02:03:31,120 --> 02:03:33,720
Speaker 2: I like, And I know you're looking at it from

2524
02:03:33,840 --> 02:03:39,480
Speaker 2: purely singular fandom because like you have other teams that

2525
02:03:39,520 --> 02:03:42,240
Speaker 2: you could watch right doing your own teams by yeah,

2526
02:03:42,720 --> 02:03:46,280
Speaker 2: I mean, but it does allow two things flexibility with

2527
02:03:47,040 --> 02:03:50,400
Speaker 2: like off night schedules, so like if you want to

2528
02:03:50,400 --> 02:03:54,480
Speaker 2: play on a Tuesday or a Friday or whatever, it

2529
02:03:54,560 --> 02:03:57,880
Speaker 2: makes it a little bit easier for those kind of

2530
02:03:58,120 --> 02:04:01,760
Speaker 2: midweek games. And the other thing, too, is if you're

2531
02:04:01,800 --> 02:04:06,680
Speaker 2: going to force players to play this many games, you

2532
02:04:06,800 --> 02:04:08,920
Speaker 2: got to protect their bodies. So I do think that

2533
02:04:09,880 --> 02:04:12,280
Speaker 2: another built in buy, like a first half buy and

2534
02:04:12,280 --> 02:04:15,879
Speaker 2: the second half buy kind of helps their bodies.

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02:04:17,040 --> 02:04:21,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. Probably. You know I'm gonna be callous for a minute.

2536
02:04:21,720 --> 02:04:24,640
Speaker 1: I will. I will be passionate about the health and

2537
02:04:24,680 --> 02:04:27,280
Speaker 1: safety of players. When players are passionate about the health

2538
02:04:27,320 --> 02:04:29,960
Speaker 1: and safety of players, Like everybody talks about it, but

2539
02:04:30,200 --> 02:04:33,120
Speaker 1: every single time we get to the negotiating table and

2540
02:04:33,200 --> 02:04:35,280
Speaker 1: there's some sort of an element to well, you know,

2541
02:04:35,840 --> 02:04:38,760
Speaker 1: we want an extra game, Well that's bad for health

2542
02:04:38,760 --> 02:04:41,160
Speaker 1: and safety. Hey, we're going to give you this much money. Okay,

2543
02:04:41,200 --> 02:04:43,880
Speaker 1: we'll do it. Like that's the element for me. That's

2544
02:04:43,920 --> 02:04:46,680
Speaker 1: always why there's a part of me that is callous

2545
02:04:46,720 --> 02:04:48,920
Speaker 1: to all of it. Because players talk about it, but

2546
02:04:48,960 --> 02:04:52,400
Speaker 1: when they as a collective bargained unit, as a union,

2547
02:04:52,440 --> 02:04:55,440
Speaker 1: when they come together, they've never made health and safety

2548
02:04:55,520 --> 02:04:58,160
Speaker 1: such a priority that they're willing to leave money behind.

2549
02:04:58,200 --> 02:05:00,520
Speaker 1: And if they're not willing to leave money behind, then

2550
02:05:00,520 --> 02:05:03,080
Speaker 1: I just want my football. Like it's cold and callous

2551
02:05:03,080 --> 02:05:03,400
Speaker 1: to say that.

2552
02:05:03,680 --> 02:05:07,480
Speaker 2: Let's let's be let's also keep it real, go that

2553
02:05:07,760 --> 02:05:10,320
Speaker 2: union is exactly.

2554
02:05:12,360 --> 02:05:15,040
Speaker 3: It's not it's it's not exactly the teams.

2555
02:05:15,080 --> 02:05:17,760
Speaker 2: There's you know, going out and fighting for your for

2556
02:05:17,840 --> 02:05:18,400
Speaker 2: their people.

2557
02:05:19,280 --> 02:05:22,879
Speaker 1: But the wild part about that is the strong unions

2558
02:05:22,920 --> 02:05:25,000
Speaker 1: like you just mentioned, are unions that back in the

2559
02:05:25,080 --> 02:05:27,080
Speaker 1: day were funded by a bunch of people that made

2560
02:05:27,120 --> 02:05:28,880
Speaker 1: a little bit of money and everybody put in and

2561
02:05:28,920 --> 02:05:32,120
Speaker 1: everybody had solidarity. This is funded by a bunch of

2562
02:05:32,640 --> 02:05:37,400
Speaker 1: millionaires that don't have the problem the collective bargaining union

2563
02:05:37,440 --> 02:05:39,480
Speaker 1: will always have. And former players have talked to me

2564
02:05:39,520 --> 02:05:42,800
Speaker 1: about this, is like, ultimately, there are thousands of members

2565
02:05:42,880 --> 02:05:44,640
Speaker 1: and there's a limited amount of time that you can

2566
02:05:44,640 --> 02:05:47,200
Speaker 1: play football. And because of that, so many of the

2567
02:05:47,240 --> 02:05:49,000
Speaker 1: guys that are short term in the league are only

2568
02:05:49,080 --> 02:05:51,440
Speaker 1: going to vote for what helps them short term continue

2569
02:05:51,520 --> 02:05:54,360
Speaker 1: their career and try and have an opportunity. So things

2570
02:05:54,400 --> 02:05:57,600
Speaker 1: like the franchise tag only impact thirty two players. Everybody's

2571
02:05:57,640 --> 02:05:58,920
Speaker 1: not going to sit there and die in the hill

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02:05:58,960 --> 02:06:02,160
Speaker 1: that helps thirty two plays when there's thousands of players

2573
02:06:02,240 --> 02:06:05,200
Speaker 1: voting on it. So the league union process is a

2574
02:06:05,240 --> 02:06:07,920
Speaker 1: little broken, I'll admit that. But health and safety smattered

2575
02:06:08,000 --> 02:06:12,480
Speaker 1: all of them. Yeah, that's begetting on my soapbox.

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02:06:12,840 --> 02:06:15,520
Speaker 3: I feel you, I feel you. Uh, figure where you

2577
02:06:15,600 --> 02:06:19,600
Speaker 3: at with yo? The President's day in the schedule?

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02:06:20,200 --> 02:06:23,760
Speaker 5: I mean, lest I sound like an old crotchety man here.

2579
02:06:23,960 --> 02:06:26,040
Speaker 5: I mean, how about we just going to work on Monday?

2580
02:06:26,080 --> 02:06:27,600
Speaker 5: Why does why do we have to have it off?

2581
02:06:27,600 --> 02:06:29,160
Speaker 5: I don't why do we have to move the schedule?

2582
02:06:29,520 --> 02:06:29,680
Speaker 1: Now?

2583
02:06:29,760 --> 02:06:29,920
Speaker 3: Good?

2584
02:06:29,960 --> 02:06:32,080
Speaker 5: Granted I'm speaking from someone on the West Coast through

2585
02:06:32,120 --> 02:06:33,840
Speaker 5: the super Bowl ended at eight o'clock at night and

2586
02:06:33,880 --> 02:06:34,920
Speaker 5: not eleven o'clock at night.

2587
02:06:34,960 --> 02:06:37,080
Speaker 6: And maybe that factor is something into it.

2588
02:06:37,120 --> 02:06:41,480
Speaker 5: But maybe we don't need maybe that factors West Coast.

2589
02:06:42,320 --> 02:06:43,120
Speaker 1: I mean, do we do?

2590
02:06:43,320 --> 02:06:45,240
Speaker 5: Don't we have enough days off as it is? Don't

2591
02:06:45,240 --> 02:06:46,880
Speaker 5: you want to come back and talk about the super

2592
02:06:46,880 --> 02:06:49,840
Speaker 5: Bowl the next day and be excited about celebrating the

2593
02:06:49,880 --> 02:06:52,640
Speaker 5: champion Chiefs if you're in Kansas City or the Mint

2594
02:06:52,640 --> 02:06:55,080
Speaker 5: What happened to you in San Francisco when drown your

2595
02:06:55,080 --> 02:06:56,960
Speaker 5: sorrows and talk to your friends on the radio and

2596
02:06:57,000 --> 02:06:57,960
Speaker 5: television and all that.

2597
02:06:58,920 --> 02:06:59,960
Speaker 6: But maybe I'm just in the minor.

2598
02:07:00,360 --> 02:07:02,200
Speaker 1: But let me let me ask you this. Why not

2599
02:07:02,360 --> 02:07:03,879
Speaker 1: just move the super Bowl to Saturday?

2600
02:07:04,400 --> 02:07:06,640
Speaker 3: That's horrible thing. No, it's.

2601
02:07:08,040 --> 02:07:09,320
Speaker 6: I thought I was gonna say move the super Bowl

2602
02:07:09,400 --> 02:07:09,880
Speaker 6: to Monday.

2603
02:07:10,800 --> 02:07:11,720
Speaker 1: No, move the super Bowl.

2604
02:07:12,120 --> 02:07:16,760
Speaker 3: I don't like. I don't like it on Saturday. It's Sunday.

2605
02:07:17,440 --> 02:07:19,680
Speaker 1: I mean, does it have to be though? Like I mean,

2606
02:07:19,720 --> 02:07:21,760
Speaker 1: you could do the super Bowl on Saturday. Everybody gets

2607
02:07:21,760 --> 02:07:24,160
Speaker 1: Sunday to recover and then you go back to it. Like, look,

2608
02:07:24,200 --> 02:07:25,560
Speaker 1: I'm also the person like.

2609
02:07:25,680 --> 02:07:28,560
Speaker 3: They just got the President States built in it's a week.

2610
02:07:28,440 --> 02:07:30,840
Speaker 6: Later, But why are you giving you an extra week?

2611
02:07:31,000 --> 02:07:33,120
Speaker 3: But what's a holiday?

2612
02:07:33,240 --> 02:07:33,480
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2613
02:07:33,520 --> 02:07:35,440
Speaker 6: A week later is the holiday? Not the next day?

2614
02:07:35,560 --> 02:07:36,040
Speaker 6: Go to work?

2615
02:07:36,920 --> 02:07:39,640
Speaker 1: Why do we celebrate the why do we celebrate President's

2616
02:07:39,720 --> 02:07:43,160
Speaker 1: Day on Monday? What if we just move President's Day?

2617
02:07:43,280 --> 02:07:46,120
Speaker 6: Like that's gonna exactly that's me.

2618
02:07:47,600 --> 02:07:53,560
Speaker 2: But you's to have another week like a double bye?

2619
02:07:53,640 --> 02:07:55,280
Speaker 6: Which wait, wait, wait long enough.

2620
02:07:55,320 --> 02:08:02,040
Speaker 5: Don't we actually the shortest season by a long stretch?

2621
02:08:02,560 --> 02:08:05,960
Speaker 2: I mean, so I having another week is not exactly

2622
02:08:06,400 --> 02:08:07,760
Speaker 2: you know, a big deal.

2623
02:08:08,560 --> 02:08:11,280
Speaker 1: I have previously died on the hill that we should

2624
02:08:11,320 --> 02:08:14,400
Speaker 1: move all the holidays in the United States, like in

2625
02:08:14,400 --> 02:08:17,000
Speaker 1: the world. Really, we should move all holidays so that

2626
02:08:17,080 --> 02:08:19,120
Speaker 1: they always fall on a weekend so that you get

2627
02:08:19,120 --> 02:08:22,480
Speaker 1: the Friday, like like, no matter what, Christmas should always

2628
02:08:22,480 --> 02:08:24,720
Speaker 1: be on like the fourth Saturday of December, right, and

2629
02:08:24,760 --> 02:08:28,240
Speaker 1: then everybody can get Friday off as a national holiday.

2630
02:08:28,560 --> 02:08:31,560
Speaker 1: People can travel, you can be with their family on Saturday. Yeah,

2631
02:08:31,600 --> 02:08:36,200
Speaker 1: I mean I think and I discussed this we show together. Yeah,

2632
02:08:36,840 --> 02:08:39,440
Speaker 1: so here's here's the logic. Like, look, I mean, we

2633
02:08:39,480 --> 02:08:42,160
Speaker 1: all know he wasn't born on December twenty fifth, anyway,

2634
02:08:42,200 --> 02:08:44,520
Speaker 1: so like, does it really matter. So if you make

2635
02:08:44,560 --> 02:08:47,000
Speaker 1: it the fourth Saturday of kind of like you know,

2636
02:08:47,080 --> 02:08:50,080
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving is always whatever, the fourth Thursday or whatever it is.

2637
02:08:50,400 --> 02:08:53,879
Speaker 1: You make it the fourth Saturday, then everybody gets Friday

2638
02:08:53,880 --> 02:08:56,880
Speaker 1: off as Christmas Eve. So Christmas Eve you can travel

2639
02:08:56,880 --> 02:08:59,440
Speaker 1: to be with your family. Christmas Day is a Saturday,

2640
02:08:59,480 --> 02:09:01,520
Speaker 1: you can be with family. The day after you can

2641
02:09:01,520 --> 02:09:03,360
Speaker 1: travel back or rest, and then go back to work

2642
02:09:03,360 --> 02:09:05,880
Speaker 1: on Monday. Like this makes total sense. Like move Easter

2643
02:09:06,080 --> 02:09:11,840
Speaker 1: to you know, Easter Saturday. Move every holiday to a.

2644
02:09:11,920 --> 02:09:16,160
Speaker 6: Saturaturday Saturdays for many people for sure.

2645
02:09:16,600 --> 02:09:18,480
Speaker 1: Okay, the Easter one is a little bit, you know,

2646
02:09:18,560 --> 02:09:21,760
Speaker 1: first full moon after the vernal equinox on first Sunday

2647
02:09:21,760 --> 02:09:23,400
Speaker 1: after Like I get that. Okay, that one might be

2648
02:09:23,400 --> 02:09:26,720
Speaker 1: a little tricky here for people of faith, I understand that.

2649
02:09:26,800 --> 02:09:29,480
Speaker 1: But the rest of them, like fourth of July, I

2650
02:09:29,480 --> 02:09:31,800
Speaker 1: don't need. I don't need Fourth of July. Like, make it,

2651
02:09:31,840 --> 02:09:35,000
Speaker 1: make it a Saturday until first Saturday of July. Saturday

2652
02:09:35,480 --> 02:09:39,080
Speaker 1: is Independence Day. It's Independence Day, so you know that.

2653
02:09:39,080 --> 02:09:43,040
Speaker 2: Way, July fourth is no more. It is now just

2654
02:09:43,120 --> 02:09:45,280
Speaker 2: known as Independence Day, and.

2655
02:09:45,240 --> 02:09:48,440
Speaker 1: It's the first Saturday in July, and everybody gets the

2656
02:09:48,480 --> 02:09:51,040
Speaker 1: Friday office in national Like, you know how much I

2657
02:09:51,080 --> 02:09:51,720
Speaker 1: love Halloween?

2658
02:09:51,720 --> 02:09:53,680
Speaker 3: Why fourth Wednesday?

2659
02:09:54,280 --> 02:09:56,680
Speaker 1: July? Fourth Wednesday sucks if you work a day job,

2660
02:09:57,000 --> 02:09:59,720
Speaker 1: because then like you working nine to five, you're working

2661
02:09:59,720 --> 02:10:02,560
Speaker 1: on Tuesday. Then you you're supposed to do all this

2662
02:10:02,720 --> 02:10:04,879
Speaker 1: like and we're gonna go party and get loose on Wednesday,

2663
02:10:04,920 --> 02:10:06,400
Speaker 1: and then you got to be back at work at

2664
02:10:06,440 --> 02:10:09,320
Speaker 1: eight am on a Thursday. That sucks. If you work

2665
02:10:09,320 --> 02:10:10,480
Speaker 1: a regular nine time.

2666
02:10:10,360 --> 02:10:13,960
Speaker 3: You walk out like you know, and you get, you know,

2667
02:10:14,120 --> 02:10:15,040
Speaker 3: you get, you get.

2668
02:10:15,480 --> 02:10:18,040
Speaker 2: You're able to kind of coach through depart on what

2669
02:10:18,800 --> 02:10:21,320
Speaker 2: vocation you're ready if you'll you can rag out and

2670
02:10:21,760 --> 02:10:24,360
Speaker 2: actually I have a couple of days in a row.

2671
02:10:25,880 --> 02:10:26,400
Speaker 6: Fifth, you know.

2672
02:10:26,640 --> 02:10:29,560
Speaker 1: Or they can move Independence Day to the first Saturday

2673
02:10:29,560 --> 02:10:32,520
Speaker 1: of July. Give everybody the Friday off, which means, if

2674
02:10:32,520 --> 02:10:34,520
Speaker 1: you're working at nine to five, you have Friday Saturday.

2675
02:10:34,560 --> 02:10:36,760
Speaker 1: You have a three day weekend every holiday, Like, look,

2676
02:10:36,800 --> 02:10:38,520
Speaker 1: do you know how much I love Halloween. I would

2677
02:10:38,560 --> 02:10:40,960
Speaker 1: move Halloween to the last Saturday in October, and I'd

2678
02:10:40,960 --> 02:10:43,640
Speaker 1: make Friday a big old holiday, you know, Friday, Saturday Sunday,

2679
02:10:43,680 --> 02:10:45,440
Speaker 1: give everybody everybody.

2680
02:10:46,440 --> 02:10:50,200
Speaker 2: Saturdays ready, Saturdays already the best day of the week.

2681
02:10:50,640 --> 02:10:52,080
Speaker 6: There is something to be said for Halloween.

2682
02:10:52,080 --> 02:10:54,920
Speaker 5: You making on a Saturday, you know, andy kids walking

2683
02:10:55,000 --> 02:10:56,840
Speaker 5: up and down the street at you know, seven eight

2684
02:10:56,880 --> 02:10:58,360
Speaker 5: o'clock at night on a Tuesday.

2685
02:10:58,880 --> 02:11:01,160
Speaker 1: It's it's easy for the kids. Look look at me,

2686
02:11:01,280 --> 02:11:03,160
Speaker 1: a man of the people. I'm a man of the people.

2687
02:11:03,160 --> 02:11:05,480
Speaker 1: I'm moving. I'm moving all the holidays.

2688
02:11:05,000 --> 02:11:08,720
Speaker 6: To Saturdays, and I'm all in, let's go.

2689
02:11:08,800 --> 02:11:10,720
Speaker 1: I mean while we're going. I mean, I wouldn't have

2690
02:11:10,720 --> 02:11:12,880
Speaker 1: a hard time moving a Saturday either.

2691
02:11:13,200 --> 02:11:16,839
Speaker 3: I definitely vote for you, but I'm out on your holiday.

2692
02:11:17,640 --> 02:11:18,240
Speaker 3: I'd like to do.

2693
02:11:18,440 --> 02:11:21,840
Speaker 2: I like a midday you know, break of I hate

2694
02:11:21,880 --> 02:11:23,680
Speaker 2: the norm see you know what I like.

2695
02:11:23,800 --> 02:11:25,560
Speaker 3: I hate the rhythm that we have.

2696
02:11:26,840 --> 02:11:29,080
Speaker 2: You gotta trudge all week long and then you get

2697
02:11:29,120 --> 02:11:34,040
Speaker 2: off two days and it's and Sunday sucks because Sunday

2698
02:11:34,120 --> 02:11:36,400
Speaker 2: night's the worst night of the week because you know,

2699
02:11:36,520 --> 02:11:42,200
Speaker 2: Mondays when they rise and I still have chills from

2700
02:11:42,240 --> 02:11:45,280
Speaker 2: when I was a kid listening to the sixty minutes

2701
02:11:45,320 --> 02:11:48,080
Speaker 2: at the end of the football Like sixty.

2702
02:11:48,280 --> 02:11:51,320
Speaker 1: In the football game is just the worst, the worst.

2703
02:11:51,080 --> 02:11:54,360
Speaker 2: Coming up on sixty minutes and I'm like, damn, I

2704
02:11:54,360 --> 02:11:58,280
Speaker 2: freaking hate this because a that means the game's almost over,

2705
02:11:58,600 --> 02:12:01,160
Speaker 2: which means it's gonna be Sunday night, which means I

2706
02:12:01,200 --> 02:12:04,920
Speaker 2: gotta go to bed early, which means I have school tomorrow.

2707
02:12:05,520 --> 02:12:09,960
Speaker 3: Okay, so all you heard was rather is gonna sit

2708
02:12:10,080 --> 02:12:11,160
Speaker 3: down with you know.

2709
02:12:11,440 --> 02:12:13,440
Speaker 5: Now, maybe I am the whole creation because I enjoyed

2710
02:12:13,480 --> 02:12:14,640
Speaker 5: Andy Rooney's commentaries.

2711
02:12:14,640 --> 02:12:16,520
Speaker 6: But that's no I enjoyed him.

2712
02:12:16,560 --> 02:12:20,000
Speaker 1: But like so, figure this is where like I could

2713
02:12:20,000 --> 02:12:21,960
Speaker 1: speak to both sides of this. Growing up in Vegas

2714
02:12:22,000 --> 02:12:23,640
Speaker 1: as a little kid and then moving all the way

2715
02:12:23,640 --> 02:12:26,920
Speaker 1: to the East coast on the West coast didn't really

2716
02:12:26,920 --> 02:12:29,760
Speaker 1: bother you. On the East coast, when you heard the

2717
02:12:29,800 --> 02:12:32,120
Speaker 1: sixty minutes start, you knew that football was over and

2718
02:12:32,160 --> 02:12:35,000
Speaker 1: it was almost time for bed. Like so there was

2719
02:12:35,040 --> 02:12:36,560
Speaker 1: this anxiety, like, man, I didn't do.

2720
02:12:36,560 --> 02:12:41,240
Speaker 2: My homeward like there's still get to this day. I drives.

2721
02:12:41,720 --> 02:12:43,200
Speaker 6: I hate it PSD.

2722
02:12:44,920 --> 02:12:47,600
Speaker 1: I was out obviously, I stayed that how did do

2723
02:12:47,640 --> 02:12:52,400
Speaker 1: my con science? And I stayed out in Vegas, you

2724
02:12:52,400 --> 02:12:54,360
Speaker 1: know for the Super Bowl. I didn't come back till Monday.

2725
02:12:54,800 --> 02:12:56,720
Speaker 1: And I feel what you're saying, Figgy, Like the super

2726
02:12:56,720 --> 02:12:59,680
Speaker 1: Bowl actually was when I did my post game show

2727
02:12:59,720 --> 02:13:01,880
Speaker 1: for you who that I had to do or got

2728
02:13:01,880 --> 02:13:04,280
Speaker 1: to do. You know from the super Bowl that I

2729
02:13:04,360 --> 02:13:06,760
Speaker 1: was still back in my room by ten thirty at night, Like,

2730
02:13:06,800 --> 02:13:08,840
Speaker 1: so I was like, this is amazing. I worked in

2731
02:13:08,880 --> 02:13:12,240
Speaker 1: a back by ten thirty, but that's ten thirty Pacific time.

2732
02:13:12,280 --> 02:13:14,040
Speaker 1: I was back in my room by like ten thirty eleven.

2733
02:13:14,080 --> 02:13:16,920
Speaker 1: That's two am Eastern time. So like, if you live

2734
02:13:16,960 --> 02:13:19,920
Speaker 1: on the East Coast, the super Bowl stinks that it

2735
02:13:20,040 --> 02:13:21,080
Speaker 1: kicks off so late.

2736
02:13:22,160 --> 02:13:23,440
Speaker 3: You deserve off.

2737
02:13:24,280 --> 02:13:26,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could make the argument, like you're told me

2738
02:13:26,680 --> 02:13:29,440
Speaker 2: about you know, at least you know two thirds of

2739
02:13:29,440 --> 02:13:33,120
Speaker 2: the country, because even if you're in Central time, it's

2740
02:13:33,120 --> 02:13:35,320
Speaker 2: still like you can use the day off the next day,

2741
02:13:35,760 --> 02:13:38,160
Speaker 2: especially if you go hard at your party and your

2742
02:13:38,160 --> 02:13:43,000
Speaker 2: social you're you're out of the house. Give the people

2743
02:13:43,080 --> 02:13:46,560
Speaker 2: all fig Oh god, oh god.

2744
02:13:46,600 --> 02:13:48,400
Speaker 5: You're the one who told me that East Coast everything,

2745
02:13:49,400 --> 02:13:53,640
Speaker 5: everything go ahead, go aheady No, just everybody stays up late.

2746
02:13:53,680 --> 02:13:55,440
Speaker 5: We're used to this anyway, you like the late Sunday

2747
02:13:55,520 --> 02:13:57,440
Speaker 5: night kickoff and all that stuff. So I thought you're just.

2748
02:13:57,440 --> 02:13:57,920
Speaker 6: Used to it.

2749
02:13:58,040 --> 02:14:03,280
Speaker 2: So if I'm weird that to.

2750
02:14:03,240 --> 02:14:04,600
Speaker 6: Be used to it at this point in time, it's

2751
02:14:04,600 --> 02:14:04,960
Speaker 6: all right.

2752
02:14:05,080 --> 02:14:06,280
Speaker 1: Okay, you never get used to it.

2753
02:14:06,440 --> 02:14:10,040
Speaker 2: You never get used to Make coast stop timing, make

2754
02:14:10,120 --> 02:14:10,760
Speaker 2: it stop.

2755
02:14:11,320 --> 02:14:16,040
Speaker 1: You never get used to it. Might it was Mark,

2756
02:14:16,880 --> 02:14:19,760
Speaker 1: you never get you never get used to the East

2757
02:14:19,760 --> 02:14:22,240
Speaker 1: coast timing on football. Like it's the weirdest thing on

2758
02:14:22,320 --> 02:14:25,160
Speaker 1: Sunday morning in my life when I wake up and

2759
02:14:25,200 --> 02:14:27,600
Speaker 1: I realized the first game doesn't kick off till one pm.

2760
02:14:27,720 --> 02:14:30,080
Speaker 1: So then like you're like, Okay, I got to figure

2761
02:14:30,080 --> 02:14:31,800
Speaker 1: out something to do this morning because I woke up

2762
02:14:31,800 --> 02:14:33,720
Speaker 1: at a reasonable time and I can't just sit here

2763
02:14:33,760 --> 02:14:35,680
Speaker 1: and not be productive for the next four hours. So

2764
02:14:35,720 --> 02:14:37,720
Speaker 1: what am I going to do? And then when you

2765
02:14:37,760 --> 02:14:40,320
Speaker 1: realize Sunday night football is kicking off and you're like, study,

2766
02:14:41,320 --> 02:14:42,400
Speaker 1: that can be done till midnight.

2767
02:14:42,440 --> 02:14:47,320
Speaker 3: Flyers, look at your go pick your fanny, go study

2768
02:14:47,320 --> 02:14:47,560
Speaker 3: your fan.

2769
02:14:47,760 --> 02:14:49,720
Speaker 1: So you got plenty of West coast, West coast, best

2770
02:14:49,720 --> 02:14:52,600
Speaker 1: coast for watching football, saying it for years.

2771
02:14:53,040 --> 02:14:55,200
Speaker 6: Wake up the football can't beat it.

2772
02:14:55,720 --> 02:14:57,880
Speaker 2: I don't want to be in bed. You got Shay

2773
02:14:58,600 --> 02:15:02,640
Speaker 2: talking about being in bed watching his team. That's weird.

2774
02:15:03,040 --> 02:15:05,839
Speaker 2: You should be watching You should be a bed watching football.

2775
02:15:07,400 --> 02:15:10,000
Speaker 2: Football is not a bad sport. I don't disagree with

2776
02:15:10,000 --> 02:15:10,400
Speaker 2: that part.

2777
02:15:11,240 --> 02:15:13,920
Speaker 5: Jay's an eyeball when it comes to that, I'm with you,

2778
02:15:14,480 --> 02:15:17,640
Speaker 5: sad move. When you get the party started early, you

2779
02:15:17,720 --> 02:15:19,840
Speaker 5: have the excuse to maybe, you know, have a pop

2780
02:15:19,920 --> 02:15:22,520
Speaker 5: or two before eleven am because football is on.

2781
02:15:23,080 --> 02:15:24,640
Speaker 6: I mean, come on, how do you beat that?

2782
02:15:25,840 --> 02:15:29,600
Speaker 2: You go tailgate around here, you're ten eleven o'clock, you're

2783
02:15:29,680 --> 02:15:30,440
Speaker 2: cracking beers.

2784
02:15:30,560 --> 02:15:32,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, but you're still waiting around for two and a

2785
02:15:32,040 --> 02:15:33,320
Speaker 6: half more hours for a game to start.

2786
02:15:34,080 --> 02:15:35,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like you.

2787
02:15:35,400 --> 02:15:35,800
Speaker 6: I don't know.

2788
02:15:35,880 --> 02:15:39,320
Speaker 2: I don't like the West I don't I don't like

2789
02:15:39,360 --> 02:15:41,600
Speaker 2: the West Coast football times that I don't like it,

2790
02:15:42,760 --> 02:15:44,800
Speaker 2: and you like you like, what are you doing Sunday night?

2791
02:15:46,280 --> 02:15:51,200
Speaker 5: Watching Sunday night football and then go have a drink

2792
02:15:51,200 --> 02:15:51,960
Speaker 5: with some friends?

2793
02:15:52,320 --> 02:15:55,400
Speaker 3: It's eight He did that Friday Saturday. It's something like.

2794
02:15:55,680 --> 02:15:58,560
Speaker 3: It's something like you should just relax and watch a game.

2795
02:16:00,040 --> 02:16:02,520
Speaker 1: I mean, there's nothing wrong with being done at the

2796
02:16:02,560 --> 02:16:04,680
Speaker 1: game with game at eight pm and then just sort

2797
02:16:04,720 --> 02:16:07,840
Speaker 1: of decompressing and watching. You know, you can watch.

2798
02:16:09,440 --> 02:16:13,440
Speaker 3: The football is decompressing. Oh watching.

2799
02:16:14,160 --> 02:16:17,360
Speaker 1: I yelled so loud last year during one Raiders game

2800
02:16:17,360 --> 02:16:19,240
Speaker 1: that I had to get cookies for my neighbor because

2801
02:16:19,240 --> 02:16:21,360
Speaker 1: I felt bad about the language when they went inside.

2802
02:16:21,360 --> 02:16:23,680
Speaker 1: They were sitting outside on their porch. I had my

2803
02:16:23,720 --> 02:16:26,560
Speaker 1: doors and windows closed, and I watched my neighbors were

2804
02:16:26,600 --> 02:16:29,720
Speaker 1: a little elderly, stand up, throw their hands in the air,

2805
02:16:29,760 --> 02:16:32,040
Speaker 1: and go inside because my language might get a little

2806
02:16:32,040 --> 02:16:35,320
Speaker 1: offensive during Raiders games, like there's no decompressing the like

2807
02:16:35,560 --> 02:16:36,640
Speaker 1: I feel like after.

2808
02:16:37,800 --> 02:16:40,480
Speaker 2: Point, I mean, the point is that, like it's your

2809
02:16:40,520 --> 02:16:42,160
Speaker 2: activity something a football.

2810
02:16:43,640 --> 02:16:47,240
Speaker 3: If it's over you at eight o'clock, what's.

2811
02:16:46,520 --> 02:16:49,800
Speaker 1: The What's it's like the cigarette after the hibbity dibbity

2812
02:16:49,840 --> 02:16:51,600
Speaker 1: for some people, Like it's just your way to just

2813
02:16:52,000 --> 02:16:54,120
Speaker 1: relax afterwards. You just get to you know, you have

2814
02:16:54,240 --> 02:16:55,560
Speaker 1: to pour yourself more time.

2815
02:16:55,760 --> 02:17:00,960
Speaker 2: After you got you're having to smoke. I mean all right,

2816
02:17:01,040 --> 02:17:03,600
Speaker 2: Like that makes sense to me. We're gonna do it

2817
02:17:04,120 --> 02:17:07,720
Speaker 2: Sunday night. Like you're not doing anything.

2818
02:17:07,879 --> 02:17:08,080
Speaker 4: Chill.

2819
02:17:08,160 --> 02:17:11,000
Speaker 6: You can decompress after a long day of football. Shut

2820
02:17:11,040 --> 02:17:11,760
Speaker 6: it up a little bit.

2821
02:17:11,840 --> 02:17:14,560
Speaker 3: I have a drink, drink.

2822
02:17:15,320 --> 02:17:15,959
Speaker 1: What's the game?

2823
02:17:17,520 --> 02:17:20,720
Speaker 6: Do you have a post game drink after drinking all day?

2824
02:17:20,920 --> 02:17:26,480
Speaker 3: That's how moms gave drink. What's on? But well you

2825
02:17:26,480 --> 02:17:27,840
Speaker 3: have your post game cocktail.

2826
02:17:28,160 --> 02:17:30,600
Speaker 1: You're wrapping highlights from the day. Yeah, exactly like.

2827
02:17:31,000 --> 02:17:33,680
Speaker 3: Your digest I should say, highlights.

2828
02:17:33,720 --> 02:17:37,200
Speaker 6: Highlights are on the background. You're the people watch the game.

2829
02:17:38,120 --> 02:17:41,640
Speaker 1: You're reliving the whole day, reliving the glory. At the end,

2830
02:17:41,680 --> 02:17:44,480
Speaker 1: it's like it's like you just finished, you know, you

2831
02:17:44,600 --> 02:17:46,400
Speaker 1: finished it, and now you get to see the highlights

2832
02:17:46,440 --> 02:17:47,960
Speaker 1: again and you're like, yeah, that was a great play.

2833
02:17:48,040 --> 02:17:50,160
Speaker 1: Like it's just or you get to sit there and say,

2834
02:17:50,160 --> 02:17:51,080
Speaker 1: how do we let that happen?

2835
02:17:51,440 --> 02:17:53,280
Speaker 5: Look, in the days of my youth, you go out

2836
02:17:53,280 --> 02:17:55,240
Speaker 5: with your friends and you know, do you thing on

2837
02:17:55,240 --> 02:17:57,400
Speaker 5: Sunday night, chill, go to the bar whatever.

2838
02:17:57,560 --> 02:17:59,280
Speaker 3: You know, Well, what's the point is you at the

2839
02:17:59,280 --> 02:18:02,920
Speaker 3: bar anytime you want? We you, I mean night?

2840
02:18:04,080 --> 02:18:06,440
Speaker 1: Why these tailgating have to happen before? What if we

2841
02:18:07,040 --> 02:18:11,760
Speaker 1: had a new tradition of tailgating post forget the pregame,

2842
02:18:11,800 --> 02:18:14,000
Speaker 1: show up right and time for it, and then afterwards

2843
02:18:14,240 --> 02:18:16,320
Speaker 1: do the real thing. Then then like you can get

2844
02:18:16,320 --> 02:18:17,960
Speaker 1: after it, because you know, if you're celebrating or if

2845
02:18:17,959 --> 02:18:20,600
Speaker 1: you're trying to drink away the misery like I think

2846
02:18:20,600 --> 02:18:22,800
Speaker 1: we got, we got, we're onto something.

2847
02:18:23,959 --> 02:18:25,080
Speaker 3: I hate it.

2848
02:18:25,080 --> 02:18:31,039
Speaker 2: It's actually well, you know, you know, Figgie and I

2849
02:18:31,480 --> 02:18:35,520
Speaker 2: are born enemies for East Coast West Coast pretty much.

2850
02:18:35,920 --> 02:18:37,879
Speaker 5: I think was caught up in one of our texts

2851
02:18:37,879 --> 02:18:40,440
Speaker 5: exchange last year where we just went back and forth

2852
02:18:40,520 --> 02:18:43,920
Speaker 5: with East Coast versus West Coast rappers.

2853
02:18:43,720 --> 02:18:46,000
Speaker 6: That was the thing, if I remember.

2854
02:18:45,680 --> 02:18:48,560
Speaker 1: Correctly, that that is a very true thing. That that

2855
02:18:48,760 --> 02:18:52,560
Speaker 1: is a look. I I'm I'm I find love for

2856
02:18:52,600 --> 02:18:55,640
Speaker 1: both coasts. How do you like that? I can assembly

2857
02:18:55,720 --> 02:18:57,920
Speaker 1: I'm a chameleon. I can assimilate to either coast. I

2858
02:18:57,920 --> 02:19:00,440
Speaker 1: think I think the snow is beautiful. I think that

2859
02:19:00,520 --> 02:19:02,840
Speaker 1: you know football at ten am is also beautiful on.

2860
02:19:02,800 --> 02:19:08,520
Speaker 2: A Sunday figure straight out of death Row records. Maybe

2861
02:19:10,640 --> 02:19:17,840
Speaker 2: you know we go head to head. Oh man, all right,

2862
02:19:17,840 --> 02:19:19,000
Speaker 2: we're gonna take a quick time out.

2863
02:19:19,000 --> 02:19:19,360
Speaker 3: Coming up.

2864
02:19:19,400 --> 02:19:21,959
Speaker 2: I do want to go over the Hall of Fame

2865
02:19:22,840 --> 02:19:26,720
Speaker 2: nominees with you a little bit. The basketball Hall of

2866
02:19:26,720 --> 02:19:29,280
Speaker 2: Fame was announced. I want to hit you with that.

2867
02:19:29,400 --> 02:19:32,960
Speaker 2: See what you guys think? Where the fellas we hang

2868
02:19:33,040 --> 02:19:43,120
Speaker 2: out on a Fox Sports not Football Sports Saturday Fellas

2869
02:19:45,720 --> 02:19:50,520
Speaker 2: from the tire rec dot Com Studios. Jason fitz Kevin figures,

2870
02:19:50,520 --> 02:19:54,600
Speaker 2: I mean Gargan uh coming up, big brain. He's a

2871
02:19:54,600 --> 02:19:57,240
Speaker 2: little on a little hiatus after the Super Bowl, and

2872
02:19:58,800 --> 02:20:02,040
Speaker 2: he is, uh, he's a big NBA guy, doesn't have

2873
02:20:02,200 --> 02:20:04,320
Speaker 2: much more college. But we're gonna tak a little futures

2874
02:20:04,400 --> 02:20:07,160
Speaker 2: with him coming up in about five minutes or so.

2875
02:20:07,280 --> 02:20:09,520
Speaker 2: We'll we'll we'll check in with him.

2876
02:20:09,720 --> 02:20:09,840
Speaker 3: Uh.

2877
02:20:09,879 --> 02:20:12,640
Speaker 2: But I want to ask you guys about the Hall

2878
02:20:12,720 --> 02:20:16,960
Speaker 2: of Fame, and let's take a look at the the players.

2879
02:20:17,000 --> 02:20:19,920
Speaker 2: First of all, you tell me, does he get your vote?

2880
02:20:20,680 --> 02:20:24,240
Speaker 2: Chauncey billups fig I'll start with you.

2881
02:20:27,000 --> 02:20:29,120
Speaker 5: Well, you know, considering how the Basketball Hall of Fame

2882
02:20:29,160 --> 02:20:32,000
Speaker 5: has gone over the last decade or so, I'll say yes,

2883
02:20:33,160 --> 02:20:36,240
Speaker 5: But in my honest opinion, I think it's kind of

2884
02:20:36,240 --> 02:20:36,840
Speaker 5: widered down.

2885
02:20:37,440 --> 02:20:39,760
Speaker 1: So so know why, man, I.

2886
02:20:39,959 --> 02:20:41,160
Speaker 3: Listen, I love Chauncy.

2887
02:20:41,400 --> 02:20:43,840
Speaker 6: I do same guy.

2888
02:20:44,200 --> 02:20:47,080
Speaker 2: He's the love him. I mean, he's it was a

2889
02:20:47,160 --> 02:20:50,800
Speaker 2: terrific ballplayer. The Hall of Fame, man, I.

2890
02:20:50,720 --> 02:20:52,959
Speaker 5: Don't know, should be the best of the best, and

2891
02:20:53,000 --> 02:20:54,560
Speaker 5: he was a very good player.

2892
02:20:54,280 --> 02:20:55,600
Speaker 6: For for a long time.

2893
02:20:55,680 --> 02:20:59,959
Speaker 5: But I just you know, my big issue is, I'm

2894
02:21:00,000 --> 02:21:02,640
Speaker 5: honestly there should be an NBA Hall of Fame because

2895
02:21:02,680 --> 02:21:04,400
Speaker 5: the issue is this is a basketball Hall of Fame

2896
02:21:04,440 --> 02:21:10,800
Speaker 5: where you have coaches, college coaches, Division two coaches, globe trotters, referees.

2897
02:21:10,879 --> 02:21:12,240
Speaker 6: It's it's too much.

2898
02:21:12,760 --> 02:21:13,880
Speaker 3: It's really too much.

2899
02:21:14,959 --> 02:21:16,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a hard part about this because

2900
02:21:17,000 --> 02:21:19,560
Speaker 1: for me, when I think Hall of Fame, and I

2901
02:21:19,560 --> 02:21:21,280
Speaker 1: don't care what sport we're talking about. When I think

2902
02:21:21,280 --> 02:21:23,440
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, what I think is when you were

2903
02:21:23,480 --> 02:21:26,800
Speaker 1: taking this person on, did the whole world stop and say, man,

2904
02:21:26,959 --> 02:21:29,840
Speaker 1: we got to beat this right like? And that's that's

2905
02:21:29,879 --> 02:21:34,880
Speaker 1: the oversimplification, Like when fans, well fans like a clicker sticker,

2906
02:21:34,920 --> 02:21:37,440
Speaker 1: I'm not changing the channel right now because this person

2907
02:21:37,560 --> 02:21:40,200
Speaker 1: is on, and oh my god, Chauncey Billips was a

2908
02:21:40,240 --> 02:21:43,320
Speaker 1: great player. I just don't think of him in that light. So, like,

2909
02:21:43,640 --> 02:21:45,560
Speaker 1: you know, who am I I don't have a Hall

2910
02:21:45,600 --> 02:21:48,680
Speaker 1: of Fame boat, but I wouldn't. I wouldn't consider him

2911
02:21:48,680 --> 02:21:50,080
Speaker 1: to be a Hall of Famer. That being said, I

2912
02:21:50,120 --> 02:21:53,520
Speaker 1: think he probably gets in Body of work. College also

2913
02:21:53,560 --> 02:21:56,560
Speaker 1: included in there. So I feel like, if you're drafted

2914
02:21:56,720 --> 02:21:58,520
Speaker 1: high and you have a pretty good career, you do it.

2915
02:21:58,600 --> 02:22:01,480
Speaker 9: Yeah percent, Yeah, I it's safe thing with Vince Carr.

2916
02:22:01,560 --> 02:22:01,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2917
02:22:01,760 --> 02:22:04,959
Speaker 5: See, an interesting one is Vince because you know, obviously

2918
02:22:05,240 --> 02:22:08,879
Speaker 5: great Dunker was a great player in Toronto, had some injury,

2919
02:22:08,959 --> 02:22:10,879
Speaker 5: great college player in North k And see that's the thing.

2920
02:22:10,920 --> 02:22:14,280
Speaker 5: They loop all of this together. Your college career along

2921
02:22:14,320 --> 02:22:17,800
Speaker 5: with your NBA career, played in the NBA forever. Like

2922
02:22:17,879 --> 02:22:20,800
Speaker 5: if Vince Carter had flamed out after seven eight years

2923
02:22:20,840 --> 02:22:22,480
Speaker 5: in the NBA and just had you know, five or

2924
02:22:22,480 --> 02:22:25,400
Speaker 5: six good ones in Toronto, would he be a part

2925
02:22:25,400 --> 02:22:28,680
Speaker 5: of this conversation. But because of his longevity, which allowed

2926
02:22:28,720 --> 02:22:30,760
Speaker 5: him to put up all these numbers, all these three

2927
02:22:30,760 --> 02:22:33,760
Speaker 5: point numbers, I think that's a big reason why why

2928
02:22:33,760 --> 02:22:35,840
Speaker 5: he's here, because he just stuck around for so long.

2929
02:22:36,360 --> 02:22:40,680
Speaker 2: I agree, I completely agree, because otherwise he's not.

2930
02:22:40,959 --> 02:22:41,840
Speaker 6: I don't think so either.

2931
02:22:42,879 --> 02:22:45,520
Speaker 1: I think it's a hard case for him. Also, like

2932
02:22:46,200 --> 02:22:48,680
Speaker 1: I think we all agree that Vince Carter was surefire kidding.

2933
02:22:48,760 --> 02:22:49,720
Speaker 6: He's getting in for sure.

2934
02:22:49,800 --> 02:22:52,320
Speaker 1: The only thing I would say to the other complication

2935
02:22:52,600 --> 02:22:55,800
Speaker 1: in considering his legacy is how much do you consider

2936
02:22:55,879 --> 02:22:58,760
Speaker 1: being essentially one of the faces of the NBA, Right,

2937
02:22:58,840 --> 02:23:01,360
Speaker 1: Like because of the dunk contest stuff and everything, Like,

2938
02:23:01,680 --> 02:23:03,440
Speaker 1: there was a whole era where I felt like he

2939
02:23:03,480 --> 02:23:05,600
Speaker 1: was on every billboard, right he was just part of

2940
02:23:05,600 --> 02:23:08,200
Speaker 1: the ad campaigns. So like, I don't I know that

2941
02:23:08,240 --> 02:23:10,800
Speaker 1: shouldn't factor him, but it feels like that does naturally

2942
02:23:10,840 --> 02:23:12,480
Speaker 1: factor in a lot of times when they're like, well,

2943
02:23:12,760 --> 02:23:14,480
Speaker 1: how could you have been the face of the league and.

2944
02:23:14,440 --> 02:23:17,440
Speaker 2: Not be a Hall of Fame I only I would

2945
02:23:17,440 --> 02:23:19,680
Speaker 2: say is he was among the faces.

2946
02:23:19,720 --> 02:23:22,600
Speaker 3: But yeah, like I was the face of the league.

2947
02:23:22,640 --> 02:23:25,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right to say face of the league as

2948
02:23:25,640 --> 02:23:28,680
Speaker 1: an overstatement, but to but he was definitely one of

2949
02:23:28,680 --> 02:23:31,200
Speaker 1: the people that was in every ad, you know, like

2950
02:23:31,240 --> 02:23:31,760
Speaker 1: that in that.

2951
02:23:31,720 --> 02:23:33,840
Speaker 5: Sense, one of the big part parts of the marketing

2952
02:23:33,959 --> 02:23:35,920
Speaker 5: arm of the league at that time. I mean, look,

2953
02:23:35,959 --> 02:23:37,400
Speaker 5: I was at high school at the time that when

2954
02:23:37,480 --> 02:23:39,440
Speaker 5: Vince Carter was doing this thing at the dunk Contest

2955
02:23:39,440 --> 02:23:41,600
Speaker 5: and hanging through there, and he was a big deal

2956
02:23:41,680 --> 02:23:44,360
Speaker 5: to all of us, Like he along with Kobe and

2957
02:23:44,400 --> 02:23:47,840
Speaker 5: Tracy McGrady, those and Alan Iverson those were kind of

2958
02:23:47,840 --> 02:23:50,360
Speaker 5: the guys. All of those guys were kind of grouped

2959
02:23:50,360 --> 02:23:52,119
Speaker 5: together and there were debates as to who was better,

2960
02:23:52,120 --> 02:23:54,400
Speaker 5: who was best, and all that. So he was definitely

2961
02:23:54,400 --> 02:23:56,400
Speaker 5: a part of that conversation. On the cover you mentioned

2962
02:23:56,440 --> 02:23:59,240
Speaker 5: billboards on the cover of video games, and that certainly

2963
02:23:59,280 --> 02:24:01,560
Speaker 5: helps his calls. But even independent of that, if he's

2964
02:24:01,600 --> 02:24:03,360
Speaker 5: not in the NBA for twenty two years or however

2965
02:24:03,360 --> 02:24:05,520
Speaker 5: long he played. Even with all of that, I don't

2966
02:24:05,520 --> 02:24:06,439
Speaker 5: think he's getting.

2967
02:24:06,200 --> 02:24:10,640
Speaker 3: In agreed, Agreed. I mean he was more of a

2968
02:24:10,680 --> 02:24:11,920
Speaker 3: face than Chauncey was.

2969
02:24:12,040 --> 02:24:16,039
Speaker 5: Definitely without a doubt. Now, if it's had one championships,

2970
02:24:16,160 --> 02:24:19,240
Speaker 5: then it's a no brainer. You know, we wouldn't be

2971
02:24:19,240 --> 02:24:19,960
Speaker 5: having this discussion.

2972
02:24:19,959 --> 02:24:22,959
Speaker 2: He'd be because he's a there's two older players on

2973
02:24:22,959 --> 02:24:27,920
Speaker 2: this list. Yeah, and Michael Cooper, who was He's not

2974
02:24:28,000 --> 02:24:28,920
Speaker 2: a Hall of Famer, No.

2975
02:24:29,040 --> 02:24:32,039
Speaker 6: He's he was an excellent role player for some great teams.

2976
02:24:32,680 --> 02:24:33,959
Speaker 6: But and I love.

2977
02:24:36,600 --> 02:24:40,760
Speaker 3: You right well, you play with four Hall of Famers.

2978
02:24:41,360 --> 02:24:46,720
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, like there's your your ride off

2979
02:24:46,879 --> 02:24:47,800
Speaker 2: coketails there.

2980
02:24:48,560 --> 02:24:50,320
Speaker 5: And I don't want to say this, it's a disrespect

2981
02:24:50,320 --> 02:24:52,320
Speaker 5: because he was an integral part of that team.

2982
02:24:52,400 --> 02:24:54,200
Speaker 6: Was the defensive player of the year. He was a

2983
02:24:54,320 --> 02:24:55,080
Speaker 6: very good player.

2984
02:24:55,280 --> 02:24:57,480
Speaker 5: But I and I must and as much as I

2985
02:24:57,520 --> 02:25:00,120
Speaker 5: love Coopy he's a great guy, I don't know if I

2986
02:25:00,120 --> 02:25:01,080
Speaker 5: can put him in the Hall of Fame.

2987
02:25:02,440 --> 02:25:05,680
Speaker 1: I think that becomes hard to because of the greatness

2988
02:25:05,720 --> 02:25:07,680
Speaker 1: of all of the teammates. Then you have to almost

2989
02:25:07,760 --> 02:25:10,880
Speaker 1: in your head rationalize, Wait, do we really believe there

2990
02:25:10,920 --> 02:25:13,240
Speaker 1: were that many Hall of Famers on that team right

2991
02:25:13,280 --> 02:25:15,800
Speaker 1: then in that moment? Correct? Or was that a special

2992
02:25:15,840 --> 02:25:17,879
Speaker 1: moment in time for a team that yelled together in

2993
02:25:17,920 --> 02:25:20,680
Speaker 1: a way that sort of made it brought the best

2994
02:25:20,720 --> 02:25:23,720
Speaker 1: out in everybody. And I again, I'm thankful I don't

2995
02:25:23,760 --> 02:25:26,200
Speaker 1: have an MVP vote because I think it's really hard

2996
02:25:26,280 --> 02:25:28,520
Speaker 1: to it's hard to remember that era of the Lakers

2997
02:25:28,520 --> 02:25:30,879
Speaker 1: and not think of Coop. But also I don't think

2998
02:25:30,920 --> 02:25:33,240
Speaker 1: of Coop Like if there's a player that was going

2999
02:25:33,320 --> 02:25:35,840
Speaker 1: to miss a night, Coop being out is probably not

3000
02:25:35,920 --> 02:25:37,840
Speaker 1: the reason that everybody would say, oh my god, well

3001
02:25:37,879 --> 02:25:39,680
Speaker 1: you can't win tonight you don't have Coop on the floor.

3002
02:25:39,959 --> 02:25:42,800
Speaker 1: And that's oversimplification of a Hall of Fame legacy.

3003
02:25:42,800 --> 02:25:45,039
Speaker 2: He's got all of it real quick. And I want

3004
02:25:45,040 --> 02:25:47,160
Speaker 2: to go to Brad, but Bo Ryan to meets a

3005
02:25:47,160 --> 02:25:53,200
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer. He like his teams like Preeople Wisconsin

3006
02:25:53,320 --> 02:25:57,560
Speaker 2: basketball on the on the mat, and his team's played

3007
02:25:58,400 --> 02:26:01,760
Speaker 2: a style like they they had the Boss of Bow

3008
02:26:01,879 --> 02:26:03,080
Speaker 2: Ryan style.

3009
02:26:03,240 --> 02:26:04,320
Speaker 3: Like he was a great coach.

3010
02:26:05,640 --> 02:26:09,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, a great coach that to your point, I think

3011
02:26:09,440 --> 02:26:13,120
Speaker 1: a program was defined with his face for a generation

3012
02:26:13,320 --> 02:26:16,040
Speaker 1: in a successful generation. And I just looked it up

3013
02:26:16,080 --> 02:26:17,879
Speaker 1: to make sure I had the record right. Three sixty

3014
02:26:17,920 --> 02:26:21,440
Speaker 1: four and one thirty seven Big Ten championships, fourteen consecutive

3015
02:26:21,520 --> 02:26:24,959
Speaker 1: NCAA tournament and appearances. I mean that to me speaks

3016
02:26:25,000 --> 02:26:27,640
Speaker 1: hall of fame level. When you talk about coaching.

3017
02:26:27,360 --> 02:26:29,920
Speaker 6: Success, definitely you get no arguments for me on that.

3018
02:26:30,760 --> 02:26:34,080
Speaker 2: All right, let's get get our man, the big brain. Uh,

3019
02:26:34,440 --> 02:26:37,760
Speaker 2: this is a quiet weekend for the brain. He's gonna

3020
02:26:37,840 --> 02:26:41,080
Speaker 2: enjoy uh like he's gonna he's kind of with us

3021
02:26:41,120 --> 02:26:44,640
Speaker 2: in mourning. I think with no football, isn't that right?

3022
02:26:44,680 --> 02:26:48,280
Speaker 4: Brad, it's tough man. I have to tell you I

3023
02:26:49,240 --> 02:26:51,959
Speaker 4: missed it. But I guess we just have to wait.

3024
02:26:52,320 --> 02:26:55,080
Speaker 4: You know another what if they have many months with

3025
02:26:55,160 --> 02:26:59,160
Speaker 4: to wait, like seven months something like that. But yeah,

3026
02:26:59,360 --> 02:27:02,440
Speaker 4: I mean I'm that already. I do. Football is king

3027
02:27:03,040 --> 02:27:07,920
Speaker 4: so but you know what, basketball now will will be

3028
02:27:08,040 --> 02:27:12,160
Speaker 4: my uh my new cup of tea. So it's all good.

3029
02:27:13,000 --> 02:27:14,000
Speaker 3: Well, I want to.

3030
02:27:14,560 --> 02:27:16,520
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a quick question about that, because

3031
02:27:17,160 --> 02:27:19,520
Speaker 1: when you do what you do for a living, you know,

3032
02:27:19,640 --> 02:27:22,520
Speaker 1: having inventory matters, right, So, like does the fact that

3033
02:27:22,560 --> 02:27:24,879
Speaker 1: there are less games between college football and the NFL

3034
02:27:24,920 --> 02:27:27,800
Speaker 1: being gone less games to play, does that change any

3035
02:27:27,840 --> 02:27:28,600
Speaker 1: of your strategy?

3036
02:27:29,000 --> 02:27:29,040
Speaker 3: No.

3037
02:27:29,440 --> 02:27:33,160
Speaker 4: Actually, look, I'll be honest, like I have been, my

3038
02:27:33,840 --> 02:27:36,480
Speaker 4: NBA has been my bread and butter. Actually, this year,

3039
02:27:36,520 --> 02:27:40,040
Speaker 4: I am absolutely killing it in the NBA. That's actually

3040
02:27:40,080 --> 02:27:42,480
Speaker 4: been the thing I've made the most money on. It's

3041
02:27:42,480 --> 02:27:45,800
Speaker 4: always been usually my best betting sport has been the NBA.

3042
02:27:45,920 --> 02:27:48,760
Speaker 4: So now, from a personal standpoint, I just love the

3043
02:27:48,800 --> 02:27:52,720
Speaker 4: sport of football so much. From my gambling perspective, NBA

3044
02:27:52,879 --> 02:27:56,240
Speaker 4: has really been where my bread has been buttered. And

3045
02:27:57,200 --> 02:27:59,400
Speaker 4: so no, I mean, I just I dedicate so much

3046
02:27:59,400 --> 02:28:02,720
Speaker 4: time the NBA anyway, and just having this All Star

3047
02:28:02,800 --> 02:28:05,960
Speaker 4: break is literally probably the only three days of the

3048
02:28:06,040 --> 02:28:08,760
Speaker 4: year where I can take a little bit of a break.

3049
02:28:10,160 --> 02:28:12,800
Speaker 3: Where are you at with with college basketball?

3050
02:28:14,240 --> 02:28:17,800
Speaker 4: You know, look College's alcohol look is in my opinion, Anthty,

3051
02:28:17,879 --> 02:28:20,760
Speaker 4: Look right look Connecticut, you know, right now, it's a

3052
02:28:20,800 --> 02:28:23,520
Speaker 4: favorite to win and they've had a great year. I

3053
02:28:23,560 --> 02:28:26,039
Speaker 4: just think there's a lot of lot of lot of

3054
02:28:26,400 --> 02:28:31,080
Speaker 4: parody in college basketball, and that I really believe that

3055
02:28:31,120 --> 02:28:34,560
Speaker 4: any of these teams, so many teams have a chance

3056
02:28:34,920 --> 02:28:37,160
Speaker 4: to win it. It's just so different than the way

3057
02:28:37,200 --> 02:28:39,800
Speaker 4: it used to be in my opinion Anthony years back,

3058
02:28:40,240 --> 02:28:43,400
Speaker 4: I feel like it's so open and a team like

3059
02:28:43,480 --> 02:28:44,960
Speaker 4: Yukon that's going to be a number one seed, a

3060
02:28:45,040 --> 02:28:47,480
Speaker 4: team like Houston's being on one scene, a team like

3061
02:28:47,520 --> 02:28:50,160
Speaker 4: Purdue that was number one seed we saw lose last year, right,

3062
02:28:50,879 --> 02:28:53,600
Speaker 4: I just feel like, again, there's so much parody, and

3063
02:28:53,640 --> 02:28:56,160
Speaker 4: if you could find a team that's playing well at

3064
02:28:56,160 --> 02:28:59,040
Speaker 4: that moment, you know last year it was it was

3065
02:28:59,080 --> 02:29:02,880
Speaker 4: San Diego State. You know they got the finals against Yukon,

3066
02:29:03,360 --> 02:29:05,160
Speaker 4: that's probably looking at Do I have any interest in

3067
02:29:05,160 --> 02:29:07,240
Speaker 4: back in Yukon plus six fifty to win the title.

3068
02:29:07,600 --> 02:29:10,680
Speaker 4: Absolutely not. I'm interested in acting Purdue plus six fifty

3069
02:29:10,680 --> 02:29:13,520
Speaker 4: to win the title, absolutely not. I don't think any

3070
02:29:13,560 --> 02:29:15,520
Speaker 4: team has about a thirteen to fourteen percent gyms to

3071
02:29:15,520 --> 02:29:17,960
Speaker 4: win the title. Ample. I think there's just so much

3072
02:29:18,520 --> 02:29:21,840
Speaker 4: parody in the sport. It's crazy.

3073
02:29:22,000 --> 02:29:25,039
Speaker 1: So with the NBA conversation with that being your bread

3074
02:29:25,080 --> 02:29:26,680
Speaker 1: and butter last year, I felt like in Major League

3075
02:29:26,720 --> 02:29:29,320
Speaker 1: Baseball in the last two years, there was a you know,

3076
02:29:29,360 --> 02:29:32,080
Speaker 1: the Marlins under was just a total you can you

3077
02:29:32,080 --> 02:29:34,360
Speaker 1: can make money on Marlins under every single day. Is

3078
02:29:34,360 --> 02:29:37,080
Speaker 1: there an NBA bet that you look at there like, hey,

3079
02:29:37,480 --> 02:29:40,000
Speaker 1: this consistently is working for a player or a team.

3080
02:29:41,080 --> 02:29:43,600
Speaker 4: Well, most of my stuff, guys, And again I'm up now,

3081
02:29:43,760 --> 02:29:46,880
Speaker 4: like I think one hundred and thirty five units. This

3082
02:29:47,040 --> 02:29:50,920
Speaker 4: inception up around fifty units since since the year turned

3083
02:29:50,920 --> 02:29:53,600
Speaker 4: to January, only about a month and a half. And

3084
02:29:53,640 --> 02:29:57,240
Speaker 4: it's just betting one unit a game. It's insane. It's

3085
02:29:58,000 --> 02:29:59,119
Speaker 4: I don't think anyone.

3086
02:29:58,920 --> 02:30:02,240
Speaker 3: The way any way.

3087
02:30:02,400 --> 02:30:05,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, Brad Brad's best bets on Twitter Brad's best Bets.

3088
02:30:06,080 --> 02:30:08,600
Speaker 4: I don't think anyone in the industry is winning at

3089
02:30:08,640 --> 02:30:12,400
Speaker 4: the level than I am. Around fifty seven picking fifty

3090
02:30:12,440 --> 02:30:15,480
Speaker 4: to fifty games, which is fifty five percent is the

3091
02:30:15,520 --> 02:30:18,840
Speaker 4: gold Center, and I'm around fifty seven right now. Uh NBA. Look,

3092
02:30:18,879 --> 02:30:23,240
Speaker 4: it's interesting. I'm looking at the Western Conference, guys, and

3093
02:30:23,720 --> 02:30:26,840
Speaker 4: I look, while I respect Denver Aton and I probably

3094
02:30:26,920 --> 02:30:30,640
Speaker 4: think Denver is the most likely team probably to get

3095
02:30:30,640 --> 02:30:35,320
Speaker 4: to the finals. You could still get Minnesota and around

3096
02:30:35,400 --> 02:30:37,200
Speaker 4: nine to one and ok See around ten to one

3097
02:30:37,200 --> 02:30:39,760
Speaker 4: to go to the finals. I don't think it's that

3098
02:30:39,920 --> 02:30:42,880
Speaker 4: obvious that that Denver is that much better, or the

3099
02:30:42,920 --> 02:30:45,360
Speaker 4: Clippers or or the Suns are that much better in

3100
02:30:45,480 --> 02:30:48,080
Speaker 4: Minnesota and Oklahoma City now, I understand the argument is

3101
02:30:48,360 --> 02:30:51,080
Speaker 4: these teams haven't quitted their teeth in the playoffs shit,

3102
02:30:51,959 --> 02:30:55,039
Speaker 4: But I I just I don't know. I think there

3103
02:30:55,080 --> 02:30:56,760
Speaker 4: was odds are a little bit too high for the teams

3104
02:30:56,760 --> 02:30:59,240
Speaker 4: that have the two best records in the Western Conference.

3105
02:30:59,320 --> 02:31:01,959
Speaker 4: Right now, every team is even. They should be about

3106
02:31:01,959 --> 02:31:05,240
Speaker 4: seven to one odds, right eight team seven to one.

3107
02:31:05,640 --> 02:31:08,200
Speaker 4: I think these two teams are right there with Denver

3108
02:31:08,520 --> 02:31:13,200
Speaker 4: with the Clippers as the best teams. I like them

3109
02:31:13,200 --> 02:31:14,920
Speaker 4: better than Phoenix. I like them just as much as

3110
02:31:14,959 --> 02:31:17,280
Speaker 4: the Clippers. Quite honestly, I think if you're looking to

3111
02:31:17,360 --> 02:31:20,240
Speaker 4: take a long shot, I have no problem taking OKC

3112
02:31:20,879 --> 02:31:23,680
Speaker 4: or Minnesota at long odds to get to the finals

3113
02:31:23,720 --> 02:31:25,760
Speaker 4: because I think both those teams are very live.

3114
02:31:26,720 --> 02:31:28,480
Speaker 3: How about next year?

3115
02:31:28,480 --> 02:31:33,199
Speaker 2: Any any NFL future Did you throw any NFL futures

3116
02:31:33,200 --> 02:31:33,680
Speaker 2: in yet?

3117
02:31:33,800 --> 02:31:37,879
Speaker 4: Yeah? You know, it's interesting. Like again, not that I'm

3118
02:31:37,879 --> 02:31:39,560
Speaker 4: picking this team to go to the super Bowl, but

3119
02:31:39,920 --> 02:31:42,400
Speaker 4: I thought Cleveland that fifty to one was a little

3120
02:31:42,440 --> 02:31:47,560
Speaker 4: bit too high. Obviously, Watson needs to come back way

3121
02:31:47,600 --> 02:31:50,520
Speaker 4: better than the Watson we saw this year, because that

3122
02:31:50,640 --> 02:31:53,880
Speaker 4: Watson isn't getting it done. Heck, Joe Flacco performed him

3123
02:31:53,879 --> 02:31:55,880
Speaker 4: if you're being honest about it. But I thought fifty

3124
02:31:55,879 --> 02:31:58,600
Speaker 4: to one was maybe a little bit a little bit

3125
02:31:58,640 --> 02:32:02,400
Speaker 4: too high on them. And then another AFC team where

3126
02:32:02,480 --> 02:32:04,720
Speaker 4: maybe thought the oxslord a little bit too high, saw

3127
02:32:04,760 --> 02:32:08,320
Speaker 4: the Jets at thirty five to one with Aaron Rodgers.

3128
02:32:08,560 --> 02:32:11,680
Speaker 4: Look their defense obviously now two straight years has been

3129
02:32:11,760 --> 02:32:16,440
Speaker 4: top five in the league, assuming Rogers is just as

3130
02:32:16,480 --> 02:32:18,680
Speaker 4: similar to what he used to be, I think those

3131
02:32:18,720 --> 02:32:22,000
Speaker 4: odds are a little bit too high. In the NFC, I

3132
02:32:22,040 --> 02:32:25,120
Speaker 4: saw Green Bay at twenty five to one. I do

3133
02:32:25,400 --> 02:32:27,000
Speaker 4: like the fact they have a lot of good young

3134
02:32:27,040 --> 02:32:31,200
Speaker 4: players anthy, I really feel like they have four good

3135
02:32:31,240 --> 02:32:34,039
Speaker 4: young receivers, too good young tight ends. I like the

3136
02:32:34,080 --> 02:32:36,000
Speaker 4: fact they got rid of their defensive coordinator. I thought

3137
02:32:36,040 --> 02:32:38,480
Speaker 4: he held them back a little bit. Looks like he's

3138
02:32:38,640 --> 02:32:41,160
Speaker 4: emerging a really good player. Twenty five to one, I

3139
02:32:41,200 --> 02:32:42,640
Speaker 4: thought that was a little bit too high. But obviously

3140
02:32:42,680 --> 02:32:43,720
Speaker 4: that division's going to be tough.

3141
02:32:45,040 --> 02:32:47,080
Speaker 1: Were there any what's the right time? I guess I

3142
02:32:47,080 --> 02:32:50,000
Speaker 1: should ask to start to look at win total NFL

3143
02:32:50,040 --> 02:32:52,560
Speaker 1: bets like well in early label.

3144
02:32:53,480 --> 02:32:55,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I'm looking, by the way again. When I

3145
02:32:56,040 --> 02:32:58,560
Speaker 4: initially did my win total last year, I did seventeen bets.

3146
02:32:58,600 --> 02:33:01,640
Speaker 4: I went sixteen and one. Can I bet them open?

3147
02:33:02,000 --> 02:33:03,920
Speaker 4: He's the only one I lost was the Rams under

3148
02:33:04,240 --> 02:33:06,040
Speaker 4: seven and a half, which closed at six and a half.

3149
02:33:06,080 --> 02:33:09,040
Speaker 4: I got a good number. That was my only loss

3150
02:33:09,280 --> 02:33:13,119
Speaker 4: out of seventeen bets. I look right away the day

3151
02:33:13,160 --> 02:33:15,240
Speaker 4: that they're posted. Now, right now only two are posted.

3152
02:33:15,560 --> 02:33:18,240
Speaker 4: They have the Chiefs up ten and a half juice

3153
02:33:18,280 --> 02:33:19,880
Speaker 4: to the over and the forty nine Ers eleven and

3154
02:33:19,879 --> 02:33:22,320
Speaker 4: a half juice to the under. When I made these,

3155
02:33:22,680 --> 02:33:24,960
Speaker 4: I made the Chiefs eleven, but it's ten and a

3156
02:33:24,959 --> 02:33:27,039
Speaker 4: half juice the over, so it's closed. And I made

3157
02:33:27,080 --> 02:33:29,840
Speaker 4: the Niners eleven it's eleven and a half juice to

3158
02:33:29,840 --> 02:33:32,320
Speaker 4: the under. So they were probably too close to the

3159
02:33:32,400 --> 02:33:34,680
Speaker 4: numbers that I personally made them to bett on those

3160
02:33:34,720 --> 02:33:36,840
Speaker 4: particular teams. I think those numbers are kind of sharp.

3161
02:33:37,480 --> 02:33:39,880
Speaker 4: I lean closer lean on the Chiefs over ten and

3162
02:33:39,920 --> 02:33:42,760
Speaker 4: a half because I think fifteen showed that Mahome Patrick

3163
02:33:42,760 --> 02:33:44,960
Speaker 4: Malins northteen that there's still Goalway is going to be

3164
02:33:44,959 --> 02:33:48,119
Speaker 4: a really tough out as long as he's playing for them.

3165
02:33:48,440 --> 02:33:51,160
Speaker 4: So I'm looking at day in the second they come

3166
02:33:51,200 --> 02:33:54,840
Speaker 4: out before Sharp's like me pound these and these numbers

3167
02:33:54,879 --> 02:33:57,720
Speaker 4: moved a game and a half game. The sooner the better,

3168
02:33:57,800 --> 02:34:00,120
Speaker 4: because again, people are going to be looking at it

3169
02:34:00,280 --> 02:34:03,680
Speaker 4: like me and betting these immediately, especially when the schedule

3170
02:34:03,720 --> 02:34:06,000
Speaker 4: comes out and whatnot. But we started the opponents of

3171
02:34:06,040 --> 02:34:08,240
Speaker 4: each team, guys, so you know, I why am in

3172
02:34:08,280 --> 02:34:09,800
Speaker 4: out of the exact order of the schedule.

3173
02:34:10,280 --> 02:34:10,560
Speaker 3: Uh?

3174
02:34:10,600 --> 02:34:12,520
Speaker 4: You know, you know, for example, like who is a

3175
02:34:12,600 --> 02:34:15,640
Speaker 4: back to back for Monday night? You know, I don't

3176
02:34:15,640 --> 02:34:17,879
Speaker 4: know that, but there's enough data there for me to

3177
02:34:17,879 --> 02:34:19,359
Speaker 4: bet this up the second.

3178
02:34:19,040 --> 02:34:20,800
Speaker 3: He gets posted. That's fascinating.

3179
02:34:20,840 --> 02:34:24,520
Speaker 2: Hey, listen, enjoy the little downtime before we get back

3180
02:34:24,560 --> 02:34:25,680
Speaker 2: at it next week.

3181
02:34:25,680 --> 02:34:27,959
Speaker 3: I'm sure you'll have some NBA and a ton of

3182
02:34:28,040 --> 02:34:28,840
Speaker 3: NBA for you, guys.

3183
02:34:28,879 --> 02:34:30,920
Speaker 4: I pre see you guys so so much, Thank you,

3184
02:34:30,959 --> 02:34:32,640
Speaker 4: so much. Good luck out there.

3185
02:34:32,680 --> 02:34:36,640
Speaker 2: Thanks buddy, appreciate is the big brain checking in? Little

3186
02:34:36,680 --> 02:34:40,000
Speaker 2: quiet for him, quiet for us. We'll come back and

3187
02:34:40,120 --> 02:34:44,840
Speaker 2: uh and wrap it up, man Fellas, trying to get

3188
02:34:44,879 --> 02:34:50,360
Speaker 2: you through this post football pardon right here, Fox Sports Radio,

3189
02:34:52,120 --> 02:35:01,000
Speaker 2: Welcome back, Fellas from the ti rack dot Com studios,

3190
02:35:02,400 --> 02:35:08,439
Speaker 2: Jason fitz, Kevin Figures Anything, Arganto, Mighty Mighty, Mark and Ian.

3191
02:35:08,680 --> 02:35:12,880
Speaker 3: Produced this show today. Did a great job as always. Hey, uh,

3192
02:35:14,760 --> 02:35:16,160
Speaker 3: we were talking about the UFL.

3193
02:35:17,640 --> 02:35:21,039
Speaker 2: SO buddy of mine is the coach of the Saint

3194
02:35:21,120 --> 02:35:29,160
Speaker 2: Louis team. Anthony becked so Ant is coaching Saint Louis.

3195
02:35:29,640 --> 02:35:31,520
Speaker 3: He said he's in Dallas now.

3196
02:35:32,720 --> 02:35:39,920
Speaker 2: Staff reports February nineteenth, the players report February twenty fourth,

3197
02:35:40,560 --> 02:35:43,160
Speaker 2: and the games are going to start March thirtieth.

3198
02:35:45,400 --> 02:35:46,240
Speaker 3: Doesn't that feel late?

3199
02:35:46,280 --> 02:35:46,600
Speaker 6: Wow?

3200
02:35:46,840 --> 02:35:49,720
Speaker 3: So one month training camp? Yeah, pretty quick.

3201
02:35:50,640 --> 02:35:54,440
Speaker 2: But I think you have to start it as quick

3202
02:35:54,480 --> 02:36:00,000
Speaker 2: as possible, like you almost you're almost late, like you.

3203
02:36:00,200 --> 02:36:02,320
Speaker 3: Now's the time where you want to catch people.

3204
02:36:02,400 --> 02:36:06,879
Speaker 1: No, yep, it's it's And by the way, I didn't

3205
02:36:06,879 --> 02:36:09,400
Speaker 1: know you guys were buddies. I interviewed him several times

3206
02:36:09,400 --> 02:36:11,720
Speaker 1: on the XFL work I did. Always thought he's got

3207
02:36:11,720 --> 02:36:14,440
Speaker 1: a dynamic personality. It seems like he's seems like he's

3208
02:36:14,440 --> 02:36:15,400
Speaker 1: a really really.

3209
02:36:15,640 --> 02:36:18,320
Speaker 3: He's the best and he and he's the best. Played. Uh.

3210
02:36:18,800 --> 02:36:22,119
Speaker 2: Chida in West Virginia was with the Jets Forever Tampa.

3211
02:36:22,640 --> 02:36:25,080
Speaker 2: He does some stuff for Tampa. He's from Philly. We're

3212
02:36:25,160 --> 02:36:27,200
Speaker 2: from the same area.

3213
02:36:27,879 --> 02:36:30,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was watching with AJ McCarran being the

3214
02:36:30,920 --> 02:36:33,480
Speaker 1: quarterback there. He's somebody I worked with for a minute too,

3215
02:36:33,560 --> 02:36:36,440
Speaker 1: so like the easy team to root for, a great,

3216
02:36:36,800 --> 02:36:39,040
Speaker 1: great fan base there too. I'm with you though, like

3217
02:36:39,520 --> 02:36:42,240
Speaker 1: if they really had I think the merger probably delayed

3218
02:36:42,240 --> 02:36:44,560
Speaker 1: some of this, But we talked about ducks in a

3219
02:36:44,640 --> 02:36:46,760
Speaker 1: row for this weekend, like this would have been the

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Speaker 1: perfect weekend to launch it, Like right now, coming off

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02:36:49,959 --> 02:36:52,160
Speaker 1: the super Bowl, it's like, hey, at least give people

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02:36:52,240 --> 02:36:53,880
Speaker 1: something like your football.

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02:36:54,040 --> 02:36:55,879
Speaker 2: I would have watched today, Like if you had a

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02:36:55,959 --> 02:36:59,760
Speaker 2: Saturday double hatter, yep, I would I think I would

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02:36:59,760 --> 02:37:00,480
Speaker 2: have want.

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02:37:00,560 --> 02:37:02,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it wouldn't surprise me if next year, I

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02:37:02,600 --> 02:37:04,400
Speaker 5: don't know if the Super Bowl is on ABC or

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02:37:04,440 --> 02:37:06,680
Speaker 5: whoever else, but one of these networks that actually has

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02:37:06,720 --> 02:37:09,360
Speaker 5: a deal with the UFL, if they actually had takeouts

3230
02:37:09,640 --> 02:37:11,760
Speaker 5: ads during the Super Bowl to say coming up next

3231
02:37:11,760 --> 02:37:14,520
Speaker 5: week is opening weekend of But to you guys's point,

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Speaker 5: I just think it was the start was a bit

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02:37:16,959 --> 02:37:19,160
Speaker 5: delayed this year and that's why it's uh they're just

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02:37:19,200 --> 02:37:23,160
Speaker 5: now starting camp. Agreed, But they also have to fill

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02:37:23,200 --> 02:37:25,120
Speaker 5: out rosters too, and I wonder if they're waiting for

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02:37:25,160 --> 02:37:27,320
Speaker 5: the NFL season to end to see if there's guys

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02:37:27,320 --> 02:37:29,000
Speaker 5: at the back end of rosters that want to play

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02:37:29,000 --> 02:37:29,720
Speaker 5: in the spring League.

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02:37:30,080 --> 02:37:31,480
Speaker 6: I wonder if that had something to do with it.

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02:37:31,560 --> 02:37:33,520
Speaker 2: That's a great point that you bring up, fake because

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02:37:33,520 --> 02:37:36,680
Speaker 2: it's funny. Anthony put a message out. I sold he

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02:37:36,800 --> 02:37:40,560
Speaker 2: put its message gentle on X say yo, if you

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02:37:40,600 --> 02:37:44,560
Speaker 2: guys are a practice squatters or whatever, you should be

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02:37:44,600 --> 02:37:49,840
Speaker 2: getting reps right, And you know he's right, Yeah, he's

3245
02:37:49,920 --> 02:37:50,560
Speaker 2: right to do that.

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02:37:50,760 --> 02:37:52,520
Speaker 5: I mean, who's to say, there's the guy at the

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02:37:52,560 --> 02:37:54,680
Speaker 5: back end of the forty nine ers of the Chiefs

3248
02:37:54,680 --> 02:37:56,960
Speaker 5: who you know, it's once the opportunity to play and

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02:37:57,000 --> 02:37:58,720
Speaker 5: didn't see it happen this year and might not see

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02:37:58,720 --> 02:38:00,360
Speaker 5: it next year. But he wants to go to the

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02:38:00,360 --> 02:38:02,200
Speaker 5: spring League, but he couldn't because he was still with

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02:38:02,280 --> 02:38:03,280
Speaker 5: the team last week.

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Speaker 3: You know. Yes.

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02:38:04,560 --> 02:38:07,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, by the way, Fox as the Super Bowl next year,

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02:38:07,080 --> 02:38:09,600
Speaker 1: Fox then NBC then ABC and all believe.

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02:38:10,280 --> 02:38:12,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I know Fox and ABC are both tied

3257
02:38:12,480 --> 02:38:17,600
Speaker 5: end to the UFL, so right, so it go ahead.

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02:38:18,440 --> 02:38:19,080
Speaker 3: Is a league.

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02:38:19,840 --> 02:38:21,880
Speaker 1: I think the thing that they're going to have to

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02:38:21,920 --> 02:38:26,840
Speaker 1: do for a minute is just sustain unchanged sustaining, like,

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02:38:27,200 --> 02:38:30,120
Speaker 1: don't give me different teams, don't relocate things. Don't give

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02:38:30,160 --> 02:38:33,240
Speaker 1: me new logos, don't give me like just decide on

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02:38:33,280 --> 02:38:35,720
Speaker 1: your brand, stick with your brand, and let people get

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02:38:35,760 --> 02:38:38,560
Speaker 1: familiar with that brand, you know. So I think that's

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02:38:38,600 --> 02:38:41,600
Speaker 1: a huge part of how they have to begin to win.

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02:38:41,720 --> 02:38:43,960
Speaker 1: And to your point, even about their training camp being

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02:38:44,000 --> 02:38:46,680
Speaker 1: in Dallas, like I know last year the XFL had

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02:38:46,720 --> 02:38:49,600
Speaker 1: everything in Dallas and then they would fly out the

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02:38:49,600 --> 02:38:53,119
Speaker 1: weekend of the game and they would to their respective cities,

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02:38:53,680 --> 02:38:56,280
Speaker 1: So there wasn't really a lot of chance to shake

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02:38:56,320 --> 02:38:58,039
Speaker 1: hands and kiss babies and do the things they have

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02:38:58,120 --> 02:38:59,800
Speaker 1: to do in the community to win local. Like, I

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02:38:59,840 --> 02:39:02,600
Speaker 1: think there are things that the UFL is going to

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02:39:02,720 --> 02:39:05,280
Speaker 1: have to do to try and actually cement themselves as

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02:39:05,280 --> 02:39:07,119
Speaker 1: part of the fabric of the community if they want

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02:39:07,120 --> 02:39:07,680
Speaker 1: to win.

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Speaker 2: Agreed, Yeah, I think you're right. So what we always

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02:39:14,240 --> 02:39:17,279
Speaker 2: play a game? What do we watch? And h FITZI

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02:39:17,320 --> 02:39:17,920
Speaker 2: I'll start with you.

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02:39:17,920 --> 02:39:18,400
Speaker 3: What do you watch?

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02:39:18,480 --> 02:39:20,280
Speaker 1: Oh? You cut market? Come on, we got a top

3282
02:39:20,280 --> 02:39:22,760
Speaker 1: five matchup at college basketball. It's a good way to

3283
02:39:22,760 --> 02:39:24,400
Speaker 1: get into it. Let's see what goodness looks like.

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02:39:24,520 --> 02:39:27,760
Speaker 2: I'm right there with you, Fincy three o'clock eastern noon

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02:39:27,800 --> 02:39:29,920
Speaker 2: Pacific on Fox.

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02:39:30,360 --> 02:39:33,879
Speaker 3: It's it's a good Big East matchup. Man. I like

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02:39:33,959 --> 02:39:38,200
Speaker 3: Oklahoma Kansas too. I think Oklahoma upsets Kansas today.

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02:39:38,320 --> 02:39:39,840
Speaker 6: Kansas is not the same team.

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02:39:40,360 --> 02:39:44,440
Speaker 2: No, no, I agree. So we'll we'll get out, We'll

3290
02:39:44,480 --> 02:39:45,240
Speaker 2: get after it.

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02:39:45,560 --> 02:39:49,840
Speaker 3: It's hoop time. So we appreciate you guys hanging. We

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02:39:49,920 --> 02:39:52,760
Speaker 3: love you. Great week, see next week. Fellas are out.