WEBVTT - Production Changes on AEW - Michael Mansury 0:00:06.240 --> 0:00:10.200 By from San Francisco. I'm a sports byline broadcasting network. 0:00:10.360 --> 0:00:13.440 You are listening to Wrestling Observer Vibe with your hosts 0:00:13.640 --> 0:00:20.200 Bryan Alvarez and Mike semperviv. Ready, Ready, let's get it all. 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:26.520 How's it going everybody? Brian Alvarez here on Wrestling Observer Live. 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:29.800 We are here every day Monday through Friday, New Pacific, Threeastern, 0:00:29.920 --> 0:00:33.880 Sundays three Pacific, sixth Eastern. Well it's Friday on the show. 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:38.880 Everybody loves a Friday edition of Wrestling Observer Live because 0:00:38.920 --> 0:00:41.960 you never know where we might go. All the shows 0:00:42.000 --> 0:00:45.680 have been reviewed and not a lot of huge news, 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:50.040 although there is some and a lot to get into today, 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:54.040 and we might even have time to talk about wrestling 0:00:54.360 --> 0:00:59.360 professional wrestling in the Olympic Games. I do, in fact 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:02.520 think we will have time for that here today. About 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:05.319 a lot to get into, at the least of which 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:10.040 is the set. So we talked about the hiring of 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:13.440 Michael Mansoori from w w E and he was going 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:18.120 to uh he was going to a w and on 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:21.800 the Observer radio show on Monday, Dave said we should 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:25.000 see changes Wednesday. I said, no, it takes a while 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:28.319 to get these things going chocobut win for me for once. 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:30.840 These changes will be going to effect at the beginning 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:33.440 of the year, because in fact, it takes time to 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:35.200 get your ducks in a row. But we'll tell you 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:39.080 about that here today. Plus the the numbers for Ring 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:43.000 of Honor Final Battle, I'll tell you how that show did. 0:01:43.440 --> 0:01:46.600 We've got more notes on Sasha Banks and her deal 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:50.280 with New Japan Pro Wrestling. We've got FTR talking about 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:53.320 their match with the Briscos, which in fact Dex considers 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:59.880 his masterpiece. His masterpiece was the dog Color match at 0:01:59.880 --> 0:02:02.680 the Final Battle pay per view, which was a completely 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:06.000 fantastic match. By the way, the only real argument is 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:08.240 was it better than the first one they had a 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:10.080 year ago at Final Battle. It is up for you 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:14.320 to decide. We've got the Dynamite ratings, Chris Jericho's doing 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:19.600 a movie, Jonathan Gresham is signed a contract with Impact Wrestling, 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:22.480 and a lot more to talk about here today as well. 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:25.240 If you want Texas four to five seven eight zero 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:27.840 seven five six six, that is four to five seven 0:02:27.840 --> 0:02:29.840 eight zero seven, five six six back in a moment 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:42.639 Observer Live seven, they're going to rip it off, taking 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:54.960 that song up behind my back. You were listening to 0:02:55.080 --> 0:02:58.679 Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Albarez and Mike Semper viv 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:03.840 on the Sports By Broadcasting Network. At the show, Bright 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:07.480 Elver is here Wrestling Observer Live. Mike SAPERBBI also Wrestling 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:10.639 Observer dot Com. You know what, let's do it. Let's 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:15.679 talk about the Olympics real quick. Why are you groaning? 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:17.560 I said we should talk about it real quick and 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:20.320 give people plenty of time to send me their feedback. 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:22.160 I want to hear people have to say about this. 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:24.920 They're not gonna take a long I'm not gonna do 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:28.679 a full IOC presentation. But essentially we were talking about 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:31.200 it a little while ago, could you do pro wrestling 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:34.480 of the Olympics? And I violently shot the idea down, 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:38.240 and uh you know there there were people that said, 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:41.520 you know, you could, you could do this, and I 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:43.920 want to make it abundantly clear. I don't think there's 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:48.000 any chances ever going to happen. Okay, but I I 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:52.760 decided I was going to do a a what do 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:58.240 they call it, like, uh no, like a like a game? 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:02.880 You know, could I could? I argue in favor of 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:06.440 the possibility of doing a mental exercise your favorite game. 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:12.680 I need more mental exercises, clearly. So anyway, so I 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:14.880 thought about this and and you know when I shot 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:16.880 it down, there were there were a few main reasons. 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:20.880 Number one is how do you judge these matches? Right, 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:23.719 That's the obvious thing. You and me do a match, 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:28.360 Dave and Lance do a match, you know, Vinnie and 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:31.680 Craig do a match. How do you judge them? Because 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:35.080 there's so many different styles of wrestling, there's so many 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:38.479 different things that different people like, So you know, how 0:04:38.560 --> 0:04:42.400 do you do this? And I was thinking about it, 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:46.560 and obviously you would need competent judges, right, and listen, 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:49.120 you know, you and me could both watch a match, 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:51.960 all right, You know I could both watch a match, 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:55.479 and Vinnie could watch a match as well, and uh, 0:04:55.720 --> 0:05:00.120 we could all think different things about the match. But 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:03.960 for example, you know m JF and Ricky Starks on Dynamite. 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:06.200 You know, I don't think the three of us would 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:09.280 watch the match and like one of us would say, well, 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:11.839 you know, that was five stars, and then one of 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:15.840 us would say that was no stars. I don't think 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:18.240 that would happen with us. Okay, but if you've been 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:20.680 on my timeline. There are people that would say, yeah, 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:23.240 that match was no stars. I thought it sucked, okay, 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:25.880 So clearly you would need some competency with your with 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:31.120 your judges and any other thing. Is is this okay? 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:34.120 If I watched The Ring of Honor pay per view, 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:37.160 I think that I could fairly look at all of 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:41.000 the different styles and and give star ratings for all 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:44.279 of those, and I think that that I would be 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:46.520 fair about that. I think Dave would be fair about 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:50.719 it as well. You know probably you okay, But you know, 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:55.440 here's the thing with remember mixed You know this, you 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:57.800 know what mixed martial arts. You know that sport is 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:04.080 m A a m M A fight. What is the 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:08.720 ideal way to judge an m m A fight? Well, 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:11.960 the ideal way would be to get George St. Pierre, 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:15.440 for example, have him watch a fight and tell you 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:19.200 which guy won. Okay, that's the best way to actually 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:22.440 judge the fight. I'm not impressed with his performance. But 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:26.520 very early on in UFC they actually did that where 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:29.560 you know who won the fight, you just you pick. 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:33.719 This did not last, okay, because in a real sport 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:37.880 you can't just say well who won? There obviously have 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:44.080 to be criteria. Okay, so what you need is competent judging, 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:46.280 and then you need like a set of criteria. And 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:49.039 I was directed to figure skating, and I'm not going 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:52.440 to read this whole thing here, but if you've ever 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:56.400 looked at the scoring system for for figure skating, I mean, 0:06:56.440 --> 0:07:01.120 there's there's five thousand words here about the judging criteria 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:04.839 for figure skating, and it's the same way for gymnastics 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:07.520 and other things like that. So I think that what 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:12.160 you would have to do is you would have every 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:17.360 country send two people to do a match, okay, and 0:07:17.560 --> 0:07:19.080 you would have to be there, would have to be 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:21.720 at the beginning like here here the type of match 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:23.640 that you're gonna do. It doesn't mean you can't have 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:26.880 Mexico send a lucha libre match, but it shouldn't be. 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:30.560 You know, you can send a hardcore match, you can 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:34.880 send a death match. It should be you have to 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:39.440 send a one on one professional wrestling match. If you 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:41.960 want to do more high flying in your match, that's fine. 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:45.040 If you want to do whatever, that's fine, one on 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:49.440 one pro wrestling match. Who is to decide who is 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:53.160 professional wrestling? Aren't you wait a second? Hold on? Then 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:57.480 you're making it more complicated. Okay, Mexico is gonna send 0:07:57.480 --> 0:08:00.000 two guys to do a match. America is gonna say 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:02.600 two guys to do a match, Japan's gonna send two 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:09.400 guys to do a match. Whatever. Can you jump off 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:13.200 the top row? Yeah, you can do that. So so 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:15.800 what would you you would you would send your your 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:20.000 two people and there would be there would be certain requirements. Okay. 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:22.920 One requirement would be the match has to be five minutes. 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:25.280 Don't tell me you can't do a match in five minutes. 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:27.920 You can, Okay. One of the best matches I ever 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:31.640 saw WrestleMania was just over five minutes. It was Goldberg 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:35.240 and brock Lesner, and that was a masterpiece. You can 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:39.040 do a five minute match. The requirements in the match 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:41.400 where that you might here's here's my requirements. If you 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:44.040 think there's different ones, whatever, I'm just telling you. The 0:08:44.120 --> 0:08:46.920 requirements would be like, you must do a little bit 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:51.360 of technical wrestling. You must have a shine, you must 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:55.280 have some heat, you must have a comeback sequence, and 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:58.480 you must have a finish. Okay, those are the requirements. 0:08:58.600 --> 0:09:02.679 Now what you do during each of those five periods, 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:06.160 that's up to you. Whatever you want. If you're a 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:09.200 lucha wrestler, you're obviously gonna do different technical wrestling than 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:11.520 if you had Zach Saber Jr. In there, or if 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:14.600 you had Brian Danielson in there. But you showcase your 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:18.360 technical wrestling, You showcase the shine by a baby face, 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:21.959 You showcase a heat segment, You showcase a come back 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:24.400 where both guys are doing their near falls, and then 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:28.520 you do a finish. Okay, those are the requirements the 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:32.040 judges to at least take out a little bit of bias. 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:37.080 The judges should score you on how how good was 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:41.120 this selling? How how good was it? How good was 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:45.480 the offense? How good were your transitions when you had 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:48.760 to go from your your technical wrestling and shine to 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:52.120 the heat? How was the transition, How was the transition 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:57.320 from the heat to the comeback? The story of the match. 0:09:57.960 --> 0:10:00.839 Do you have a story where something at beginning played 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:03.080 into the heat, perhaps which played into the comeback, which 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:05.800 played into the finish? How was your how was the 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:08.280 story of the match? And then you get a you 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:11.200 get how well did you hit your time? Did you 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:14.280 end in three minutes? Did you go over? How close 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:17.480 were you And if you have those six things, to 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:21.080 be scored upon and your five requirements. I think that 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:26.119 you could fairly judge a series of matches in the Olympics. 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:27.920 And obviously there would be more to it and everything 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:30.240 like that, because you know, with sports people, you know, 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:34.200 they want all these requirements and scoring and blah blah 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:37.280 blah blah blah. But I think that with a a 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:41.800 a basic structure like this and basic requirements and basing 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:45.800 basic judging criteria, you could do this. Do I think 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:49.400 they ever will? I think it's highly unlikely. But this 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:51.960 does take out a lot of different Uh you know 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:55.280 what if the guy cuts himself, you can't You're not 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:57.840 allowed to gig. Okay, you're just not. That's one of 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:03.480 the rules. So I think you can do it. You 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:06.880 got nothing well, I mean I could have a lot 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:09.160 to get. You know, shoot bullet holes in this. It 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:11.040 just depends on how long you want to go with it. 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:15.560 There's bullet holes, shoot one, shooting one. How do you 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:18.120 have enough judges that you judge to be and who 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:20.640 are the ones that are determining the judges to be 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:25.120 at a level you know, to have the aptitude enough 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:27.600 to be able to cover all of this? How many 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:31.440 countries are involved in sending this and sending people over 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:35.280 to do this. How do you decide what versions of 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:38.120 pro ussing to eliminate? Okay, so there's not going to 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:41.600 be hardcore, is they're going to be you know, shoot style, 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:44.600 glacial style, all of these things. And then you have 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:47.640 the problem who's going to watch any of this stuff? 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:51.199 And when it comes to watch pro wrestling, who then 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:55.640 educates the fans as to what is actually going on? 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:59.760 He watches skeet shooting in the Olympics that people are 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:02.720 I think the cathalon they still do as part of that, 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:06.120 but I mean people who are you know, partial to 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:09.480 those sports. That's who watches That's who watches the Olympics 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:12.240 to begin with. On top of the fact that, how 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:14.480 then do you go ahead and lay out a hole 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:19.560 a ecosystem for this a whole structure of power structure 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:22.960 that would be involved in having not only this sport. 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:24.600 It's easy to say you can go ahead and put 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:28.040 it on TV. There are actual, like you know, commissions 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:31.079 in each country that there's a lot of that. How 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:33.880 do you set up the amateur skeletal system to get 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:37.280 people who actually you know, can qualify to make it 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:41.160 ring of honor and impact. So how does that help 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:44.320 the Hungarian team? You know, I don't think a lot 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:46.959 of Hungarians are winning the pro wrestling contest. Back in 0:12:47.000 --> 0:13:02.280 a moment, observe alive. You know, actually did write something down? Yeah, 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:04.560 you want me to read it real quick, al right, 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:10.520 because it's very technical. Yeah. Within the sport of professional wrestling, 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:14.240 there's a very specific scoring system that must be followed 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:18.480 and is used for every discipline or style. This will 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:22.160 be referred to as the i j S International Judging 0:13:22.280 --> 0:13:26.160 System of Professional Wrestling. The two kinds of scoring you 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:29.160 will receive during a pro wrestling competition is the technical 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:33.400 score and the program components. Each technical element that is 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:36.040 attempted in a program is a specific base value of 0:13:36.040 --> 0:13:39.559 points which varies based on the element. Additionally, elements such 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:47.040 as suplexes, yes, suplexes technical wrestling sequences can achieve different 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:49.920 levels which can add or subtract points from the element's 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:52.320 final score. At the end of the match, all of 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:55.160 your technical element points will be added up to form 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:58.720 your technical score. The second aspect to the scoring system 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:01.560 and pro wresting as the program components, determined by the 0:14:01.600 --> 0:14:06.480 overall presentation of your match, be separated into five categories 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:11.680 as I read before selling offense, technique, transitions, and match 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:15.840 story like the technical elements score these categories that we 0:14:15.880 --> 0:14:18.120 had together at the end of the program to determine 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:21.320 the program components score. Then you take your final technical 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:24.840 element score and program components score add them together to 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:30.400 create your final match score, which is minus five stars 0:14:30.560 --> 0:14:36.560 for this pitch. You're an idiot, a fool for the goals? 0:14:36.640 --> 0:14:41.520 Are you describing a ring of unor pure match rules? No? Hey, 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:45.560 who are the referees? Bro? You can't find You can't 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:48.440 find nine Hall of famers to referee these matches around 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:52.760 the world, brome on. But if they're on the take, 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:55.480 wrestlers are known for being you know, shady with their 0:14:55.520 --> 0:14:58.600 brother And why do you ask these same questions about 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:01.200 every sporting Olympics? Where are you fight nine just for 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:05.520 figure sat on the tail as people on the take? 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:07.360 As far as like, you know, a whole bunch of 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:10.119 shady stuff going on that comes up about the Olympics 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:13.160 all of the time. And now you're bringing in the 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:16.720 biggest gangsters in the world, the biggest workers in the world, 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:19.880 the workers in I don't think you're gonna make anything 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:23.920 any better. Well, I'll read these comments from the from 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:28.080 the fans going four to five seven eight zero seven 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:30.360 five six six. That is four to five seven eight 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:34.320 zero seven five six. And by the way, my final 0:15:34.360 --> 0:15:38.040 comment here is that statement I just read. It was, 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:44.160 in fact literally the exact rules for figure skating in 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:47.440 the Olympics, which is an Olympic sport with a panel 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:50.640 of nine judges. It is designed exactly the way I 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:54.280 designed my professional wrestling presentation here. And it seems to 0:15:54.320 --> 0:16:00.280 me that this figure skating works every four years. Oh yeah, 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:03.280 and you know who watches that, Brian, Like, you know, 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:06.240 did you ever see the demographics of who watches figure 0:16:06.280 --> 0:16:09.160 skating during the Olympics? So you want to bring in 0:16:09.200 --> 0:16:12.800 all of these women now, all of these older women especially, 0:16:13.320 --> 0:16:16.040 you know, that's who's going to be in. Who does wrestling? 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:20.360 How does wrestling make a better Olympics? How does it 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:22.400 make it a more you know, because they've tried to 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:25.640 add sports, they've tried to add X games types of 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:27.800 things and all sorts of things to try to update 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:30.800 the Olympics to make it more of a especially I 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:35.200 guess in the Western countries, a more entertaining show to 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:38.440 watch something to invest in since they spend billions of 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:43.200 dollars on TV on television for the rights to this thing, 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:46.400 and PC's got it for what God knows when I mean, 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:49.040 we're talking into like the trillions here. By the time 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:51.680 all all is said and done, how does wrestling actually 0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:57.359 add anything to the Olympics, especially right now? It's for sponsors? 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:03.160 What viewership? What's just up, dude? What you think somebody's 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:06.520 gonna watch? Progressing? Was wrestling? Get right? Now? They could 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:08.840 add to the Olympics that the Olympics would want. We're 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:11.240 at the lowest point ever, as far as people watching 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:14.680 wrestling on television, and as bad as the Olympics are doing, 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:17.760 you could take almost all of the lowest point because 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:22.640 time and do a better job than actually have wrestling 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:27.040 in the Olympics. Listen, we're at the lowest point of 0:17:27.480 --> 0:17:30.639 watching wrestling on television because no one's watching television. The 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:35.280 numbers of plummet. Listen to this, bro, Hey, listen when 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:38.160 when pro wrestling is no longer in the top eight 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:42.360 longer get back to tell you something, champ, When when 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:45.280 they stop paying money that the rates that they're paying 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:48.800 for the Olympics, for the Super Bowl for events like that. 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:51.600 When they stopped doing that for television, then you get 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:53.240 back to me. Well, hey, when they stop paying that 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:55.520 money for pro wrestling, you get back to me, because 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:57.280 we're gonna get a new pro wrestling deal for dem 0:17:57.359 --> 0:17:59.280 to belit pretty soon. It ain't gonna be cheap, dude, 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:02.879 and us what none, None of it would relate to 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:06.680 actually giving the Olympics any reason to bring in come on, 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:10.480 progressing number one behind all sports. You couldn't possibly, you know, 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:12.480 have that be part of the Olympics. No, that would 0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:16.440 be ridiculous because it's stupid. No, you couldn't. You look 0:18:16.440 --> 0:18:20.840 at some figure skating cable numbers and it's completely favorite 0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:24.960 you shooting, taking apples and oranges to try to make 0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:27.919 some sort of comparison here, Oh, we'll take sket shooting 0:18:28.000 --> 0:18:30.720 numbers and compared to give me a break. It needs 0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:36.600 nothing and things of sport. Not nobody's watching skeet shooting 0:18:36.600 --> 0:18:38.800 on cable. But they're in the Olympics. So I'm pretty 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:41.320 sure if you put professional wrestling in the Olympics it 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:45.159 would do well. Are you sure? Are you sure? Arguing right? 0:18:45.200 --> 0:18:47.159 Are you sure that a lot of people in sports 0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:49.359 then would not look at the Olympics and go, you 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:52.040 know what, this has now fallen to such a farcical 0:18:52.200 --> 0:18:54.680 level that we won't have any involvement in it at all, 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:57.160 or we won't watch it. No, you don't tell people 0:18:57.240 --> 0:19:01.440 it's real unless you're crazy. You're bringing in pro wrestling 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:05.800 to the Olympics. We're going to present this is synchronized 0:19:05.800 --> 0:19:09.920 swimming or please everybody look at it as figure skating. 0:19:10.080 --> 0:19:13.439 Do you think anybody's in no way? Are you kidding me? 0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:17.200 People are now people. I don't have any faith in 0:19:17.280 --> 0:19:20.119 humanity because when things happen in pro wrestling, people blow 0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:23.440 it off. People die, people o D people have all 0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:26.119 of these issues, and people blow it off because it 0:19:26.280 --> 0:19:29.040 is pro wrestling. You're telling me on a grand scale, 0:19:29.320 --> 0:19:32.000 a bunch of people who are uneducated about pro wrestling, 0:19:32.000 --> 0:19:34.480 don't want anything to do with it, but actually care 0:19:34.520 --> 0:19:37.200 about sports of the Olympics or something like that. They're 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:39.760 going to do the research all of a sudden and frankly, 0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:42.480 he does wrestling have anybody that would actually go out 0:19:42.480 --> 0:19:44.280 there and do any of this stuff to lay the 0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:46.400 good will down to try to even get it into 0:19:46.400 --> 0:19:48.760 the Olympics. Give me a break. I told you that 0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:51.200 wasn't going to happen. But don't sit here and tell 0:19:51.280 --> 0:19:53.760 me that, oh, you can't have pro wrestling in the Olympics, 0:19:53.760 --> 0:19:56.359 because you know what, you also could you could have 0:19:56.560 --> 0:20:01.680 competing competitive nipple piercing in the Olympics. Okay, because yes, 0:20:01.720 --> 0:20:05.240 you can have competitive tattooing. Why that gets big numbers 0:20:05.280 --> 0:20:08.359 on cable? Right, sometimes it gets huge numbers. Yes it 0:20:08.400 --> 0:20:11.040 does with black ink. All those shows, All those shows 0:20:11.040 --> 0:20:14.000 get enough numbers on cable, certainly more than skeet shooting. 0:20:14.160 --> 0:20:16.080 So we should add that to the Olympics. Right, what 0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:19.240 are you gonna do synchronized tattooing? Now? I want to 0:20:19.240 --> 0:20:22.240 hear I have judge for art. I could have a 0:20:22.320 --> 0:20:25.119 judge for the original art. I could have a judge 0:20:25.119 --> 0:20:27.119 for the judge. I could have a judge for you 0:20:27.119 --> 0:20:29.399 could come up with all the same B S ways 0:20:29.480 --> 0:20:31.119 to do it in the same way he came up 0:20:31.119 --> 0:20:33.160 with the B S ways for right. I cannot wait 0:20:33.200 --> 0:20:36.960 to get the feedback here today seven eight zero seven 0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:39.679 five six. Open up the phone lines, coward, it's your 0:20:39.760 --> 0:20:42.160 last day here until you bail on all of these 0:20:42.200 --> 0:20:44.879 good people for a week. Open the phone lines and 0:20:44.920 --> 0:20:47.320 get your come up, and you are asking me to 0:20:47.359 --> 0:20:49.080 open up the phone line just because I know people 0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:51.840 are gonna bomb you out the building. I would be 0:20:51.920 --> 0:20:54.000 happy to open up the phone lines. Is that what 0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:57.600 you want? Bombs over, Brian, let's go. Yes, Well after 0:20:57.640 --> 0:20:59.440 the break, I'm opening up the phone lines and I 0:20:59.440 --> 0:21:02.159 don't want you complaining about it afterwards, which I know 0:21:02.240 --> 0:21:07.160 you're gonna do. Final Battle They've Meltz are reported based 0:21:07.160 --> 0:21:08.919 on the first week estimate that show did more than 0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:12.520 twenty five pay per view buys comprise of nineteen thousand 0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:17.879 via streaming on linear platforms. The number is up from 0:21:17.920 --> 0:21:21.880 Supercard of Honor, which did twenty three, but it would 0:21:21.920 --> 0:21:25.520 be down from the Death Before This Honor show with 0:21:25.800 --> 0:21:29.520 with thirty seven thousand. So those are the numbers, four 0:21:29.560 --> 0:21:31.719 of you, and I think everyone, I think we all 0:21:31.800 --> 0:21:34.439 knew this show was not gonna do giant numbers based 0:21:34.440 --> 0:21:38.320 on the build for it, and it was a good show. 0:21:39.600 --> 0:21:42.960 But you know you buy the show in advances, how 0:21:43.080 --> 0:21:48.280 usually works. New details available recordings regarding Sasha Banks's deal 0:21:49.080 --> 0:21:51.520 They Melts are addressed. Her status in the latest Observer 0:21:51.720 --> 0:21:55.720 newsletter noted the agreement is with New Japan. It does 0:21:55.800 --> 0:21:59.560 include one Stardom date likely a major show that promote 0:21:59.640 --> 0:22:03.280 the promo Cean has planned for the spring. Deal was 0:22:03.320 --> 0:22:06.199 with New Japan would include one date for Stardom be 0:22:06.240 --> 0:22:08.760 a show for this spring. Boushi Road is hoping that 0:22:08.840 --> 0:22:13.959 Banks's large social media following will help draw fans and 0:22:14.080 --> 0:22:17.680 build the public perception of the company. The belief is it, 0:22:17.760 --> 0:22:21.480 with five point six million followers on the Insta and 0:22:21.560 --> 0:22:24.639 two point four on Twitter, far more than any of 0:22:24.680 --> 0:22:30.639 their talent, that she has gigantic mainstream appeal. Sasha is 0:22:30.680 --> 0:22:33.800 going to represent Japan and the Brian Olympics. Well, you 0:22:33.840 --> 0:22:37.000 know they could send her if they wanted to. Boys 0:22:37.040 --> 0:22:40.000 of Russing claimed her deal as the largest per event 0:22:40.080 --> 0:22:44.120 agreement that New Japan has ever made, including Chris Jericho's 0:22:44.680 --> 0:22:47.760 Jericho Zeal. However, was based on various percentages as opposed 0:22:47.800 --> 0:22:51.240 to a flat rate. He said, for the record, the 0:22:51.280 --> 0:22:53.280 month the money I reportedly made during my run with 0:22:53.359 --> 0:22:57.680 New Japan online currently is completely wrong, said Jericho. I've 0:22:57.720 --> 0:22:59.600 never had a flat per appearance deal. I was paid 0:22:59.640 --> 0:23:02.080 according to the event, and I made more per event 0:23:02.080 --> 0:23:05.639 than I did for most of my WrestleMania matches. Banks 0:23:05.640 --> 0:23:08.640 negotiated with w w over the summer, reaching an agreement 0:23:08.680 --> 0:23:10.240 she would become a free agent at the start of 0:23:11.240 --> 0:23:14.800 three According to Dave, she was said to be seeking 0:23:14.840 --> 0:23:17.679 a number along the levels of Becky and Charlotte, and 0:23:17.720 --> 0:23:20.639 those internally have said she wasn't offered numbers close to that. 0:23:20.920 --> 0:23:23.720 They said that she has not seen internally as somebody 0:23:23.720 --> 0:23:25.800 who would be on top for the next five years. 0:23:26.920 --> 0:23:30.320 I can only imagine Dave's Twitter today when everybody takes 0:23:30.320 --> 0:23:33.320