Speaker 1: Jenny Garth skyrocketed to start and with her role as
Speaker 1: Kelly Taylor on Beverly Hills nine O two one zero,
Speaker 1: the show remains one of the most successful and iconic
Speaker 1: television series ever produced. Since then, Jenny in longtime bff
Speaker 1: Tori Spelling, partnered to create their rewatch podcast nine O
Speaker 1: two one OMG. Great name. Jenny joins me to share
Speaker 1: all the behind the scenes stories we need to know.
Speaker 1: This is just me with Jenny Garth. Hey, lady, nice
Speaker 1: to meet you. It really meet you, like I know,
Speaker 1: I can't even it's crazy. We've never actually met in
Speaker 1: the flesh that I'm a fan and a friend of
Speaker 1: yours from a bar. It's so weird to meet people
Speaker 1: here and then have them say thanks to me like
Speaker 1: I'm a fan when I wasn't in any sort of
Speaker 1: public eye until my late thirties. Really, and you I
Speaker 1: literally remember in walking into the whiskey and seeing you
Speaker 1: guys come in when you were on Beverly Hills and
Speaker 1: it was just, you know, the gen zs and gen Xes.
Speaker 1: Don't really realize how insane that was, Like that was cult,
Speaker 1: Like I can't think about what now is as crazy
Speaker 1: as that was. What do you think is as crazy
Speaker 1: like stranger things maybe or like out of banks, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's how crazy it was for people listening like it
Speaker 1: was out of banks level. It was crazy. I think
Speaker 1: it was crazier because there was no Internet. The people
Speaker 1: had to work really hard to like see us and
Speaker 1: you know, be in those rooms with us. So they
Speaker 1: were really invested. And I'm the fans of the original
Speaker 1: nine to two on l they're the best fans in
Speaker 1: the world that they're still fans and they I mean
Speaker 1: we talked to them, we know them, you know through
Speaker 1: the podcast. We get a lot of interaction with them
Speaker 1: and they're like friends. It's crazy how the bond it is.
Speaker 1: It is crazy. And I and also because there was
Speaker 1: so much less competition than there weren't five thousand shows
Speaker 1: that it was like the only game going on in
Speaker 1: town for sure. So what I what's jumping off the
Speaker 1: page for me is um, So you were a child
Speaker 1: actor though I never did a commercial. I started acting
Speaker 1: when I was sixteen seventeen. Oh yeah, I had like
Speaker 1: two jobs before I landed Beverly Hills nine twenty and
Speaker 1: then that was that. So where were you living and
Speaker 1: what made you decide that you wanted to be an
Speaker 1: actress at that age, and how did you pursue that
Speaker 1: at that age? How did you go about it? Well,
Speaker 1: I was I wasn't pursuing it. Like, I didn't know
Speaker 1: I want to be an actress. I didn't know what
Speaker 1: I wanted to be. I still don't know what I
Speaker 1: want to be. But I really was just sort of
Speaker 1: led into this. I was dancing, and I thought it
Speaker 1: was going to be like a dance teacher for little kids.
Speaker 1: I didn't know. But then I met a man named
Speaker 1: Randy James who wanted to represent me and brought me
Speaker 1: out to Hollywood and put me in acting classes, and
Speaker 1: right away I was auditioning, and I was so lucky
Speaker 1: enough to book stuff and get that ball rolling, and
Speaker 1: then it just kept rolling and kept rolling, and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I was an actress. Wow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and brought you to La Hollywood from where at that
Speaker 1: time I was living in Arizona. So wait a second.
Speaker 1: That's that means someone really like was impressed by you
Speaker 1: to take you to another state and then and no
Speaker 1: one would ever like, no one would ever pay for
Speaker 1: something like that. Now, I mean that person was like
Speaker 1: I'm going to take care of it, and I'm bringing
Speaker 1: you to l I have a feeling about you, and
Speaker 1: that was like a manager or something. Well, it was
Speaker 1: a little different. He discovered me. He was I was
Speaker 1: doing this scholarship pageant where I was dancing, and it
Speaker 1: was basically a beauty pageant, but I like to call
Speaker 1: it a scholarship pageant because it weirds me out less.
Speaker 1: But he was one of the guest judges for this thing,
Speaker 1: and he said, if you ever want to pursue it,
Speaker 1: give me a call. So my mom and I talked
Speaker 1: about it, and then we pursued it in Arizona and
Speaker 1: I took like an acting class, and we would send
Speaker 1: my tapes to him and give he would give us
Speaker 1: us notes and his thoughts. And then one day my
Speaker 1: mom and I would just planned a trip out to
Speaker 1: la We knocked on his door and he said, Hi,
Speaker 1: you know you said if we were ever wanted to
Speaker 1: give this a go, we should come back, and so
Speaker 1: we did. Wow. That the interest, The most interesting part
Speaker 1: of this story is that he discovered me when I
Speaker 1: was sixteen seven sixteen and he is still to the
Speaker 1: stay of my manager's which is crazy. That's a family member. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like it's like definitely my best friend, my father figure,
Speaker 1: all of it. That's unbelievable. And how proud is he?
Speaker 1: I mean, is that crazy? It's so nostalgic, it is.
Speaker 1: I mean, we just had a meeting yesterday together. We
Speaker 1: don't get to see each other that often, but we
Speaker 1: had a meeting in person yesterday, and I just love
Speaker 1: being with him. It just feels like I'm with you know,
Speaker 1: I'm protected, and he knows me, you know, it knows
Speaker 1: everything about me. But it feels like you both learned
Speaker 1: this industry together. Because in many cases, you know, agents
Speaker 1: and managers, you know they're not worth their weight because
Speaker 1: you really could do a lot of things yourself. So
Speaker 1: is it that he actually has the skill set still
Speaker 1: or is it more loyalty you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And both are fine. It's I'm a very loyal person,
Speaker 1: like loyal to a fault, and I don't think that's
Speaker 1: a negative thing. I think that kind of ties into
Speaker 1: like my Midwestern roots. I'm just a very loyal person.
Speaker 1: But more than that, he's a really good manager. He's
Speaker 1: taking care of He's been like my colonel, Like I
Speaker 1: always call them the kind of the same similar relationship. Um,
Speaker 1: he's uh, he grew he when he signed me, he
Speaker 1: was early. He had been an casting executive at ABC
Speaker 1: and was a big deal in that, so he knew
Speaker 1: what he's doing. And then he started his own management
Speaker 1: firm and I was one of his first clients. So
Speaker 1: he definitely learned a lot along this journey as well. Um,
Speaker 1: so we were more like friends, you know, on this
Speaker 1: kind of journey together. That's so nice. And you trust
Speaker 1: and trust and um, you just said he was like
Speaker 1: your father figures, so it was your mom. And you
Speaker 1: have brothers and sisters. I have wore half sisters and
Speaker 1: two half brothers, so it was up before you or
Speaker 1: after you were before Okay, So then my parents got married,
Speaker 1: had me, and functionally, were you spending a lot of
Speaker 1: time with those siblings or functions? So you feel like no, okay, definitely.
Speaker 1: And you and Tory you met on the show and
Speaker 1: then you became best friends, and you really have been
Speaker 1: this close since back then. Yes, Tory Spelling and I
Speaker 1: we met obviously playing Kelly and Donna in nineteen ninety
Speaker 1: and we were forced to be together very intimately for
Speaker 1: ten years, you know, playing best friends on camera, and
Speaker 1: it definitely sort of came across. We were young and
Speaker 1: those were the only people we ever hung out with
Speaker 1: was our cast and our crew. So obviously we became
Speaker 1: very close and that never ended. And you know, thirty,
Speaker 1: I think three years, four years later, we've been through
Speaker 1: so much and we've shared our lives together here and
Speaker 1: there throughout all of that, and it's just I think,
Speaker 1: not just with Tory, but with the rest of the cast,
Speaker 1: what we experienced during those ten years together and that
Speaker 1: kind of bond that we made it it can never
Speaker 1: be broken. There's there's never I would never not do
Speaker 1: something that one of them asked me to do. I'd
Speaker 1: always drop things to be there for them, you know.
Speaker 1: And there's not a lot of people you can say
Speaker 1: that about. Wow, And it really overall was a pleasant experience, meaning,
Speaker 1: you know, having left, having left to show myself that
Speaker 1: has a certain connotation, but also to the point of
Speaker 1: what you're saying, being there in the very, very beginning,
Speaker 1: there's like nothing can take away that crazy experience of
Speaker 1: being in the beginning of something that becomes part of
Speaker 1: the zeitgeist and like part of popular culture that you know,
Speaker 1: the president and was mentioning housewives in certain forms like
Speaker 1: it was crazy, but it does it was reality, which
Speaker 1: is not scripted. So being on a script to show
Speaker 1: you have a little more of a shield of you're
Speaker 1: playing another character that doesn't necessarily reflect who you are,
Speaker 1: even though I'm sure a lot of you bled in
Speaker 1: and out. So I asked, like, was it all a pot?
Speaker 1: Was it all always positive and positive connotation? Like did
Speaker 1: you ever want to did you ever want to disassociate
Speaker 1: from from that meaning? You know, for years Jim Carrey
Speaker 1: was comedy and wanted to not be the comedy guy.
Speaker 1: I wanted to try at being the drama guy. And
Speaker 1: sometimes people feel like they're locked into, you know, your
Speaker 1: pigeonholed or put in a certain box. But it seems
Speaker 1: by reading about you, by your podcast, by your business
Speaker 1: that you either have always or you are certainly now
Speaker 1: really leaning into what made you successful and just saying, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's where the fish are, that's what it is, that's
Speaker 1: what my fan base wants, that's who I really am.
Speaker 1: So was it always like that or you had to
Speaker 1: like come back to it? Did you want to like
Speaker 1: break out and be Beyonce and not be with Destiny's
Speaker 1: Child anymore. Well after when the show finished ten years later,
Speaker 1: there was definitely that moment of like, WHOA, where am I?
Speaker 1: What is happening? What do I do? Where do I
Speaker 1: go from here? And I had done drama first many years,
Speaker 1: so much drama because my character in particular was like
Speaker 1: the most dramatic character on the show. I think there's
Speaker 1: nothing that Kelly Taylor didn't endure at which I love doing.
Speaker 1: And then at that point though, I was like, I
Speaker 1: want to do a comedy. I want to feel what
Speaker 1: it feels like to make people laugh, and I want
Speaker 1: to have joy in my workplace, in my day. And
Speaker 1: so then I went and did a show called What
Speaker 1: I Like About You was on the WB at the
Speaker 1: time with Amanda Bines, and that was so much fun.
Speaker 1: We did that for four years. But I've never been
Speaker 1: a kind of person, like I said before, I'm really loyal.
Speaker 1: I've never been a person that I'll ever turn my
Speaker 1: back on something, especially something that had such a profound
Speaker 1: effect on my life as it is today. My gratitude
Speaker 1: for just that fact that it made me who I am.
Speaker 1: And I've taken you know, I've taken all the good
Speaker 1: parts of it and left all the bad parts and
Speaker 1: move forward with that. So it's like some being that
Speaker 1: it's in the fibers of who I am, and I'm
Speaker 1: I'm so appreciative of it, of it that of course
Speaker 1: I'm going to lean into I've always leaned into that
Speaker 1: before leaning into something was even a thing, like it's
Speaker 1: just who I am. Yeah, I ask because I guess
Speaker 1: maybe during those ten years, like when I left my show,
Speaker 1: I had to give reasons why I left. I mean
Speaker 1: your show and you know, but I had to give
Speaker 1: reasons why, and it was perceived and actually a little
Speaker 1: true that, like it was a little toxic and I
Speaker 1: left for a reason. But in doing Rewives my other podcast,
Speaker 1: it's sort of leaning back into it, saying I can
Speaker 1: comment this from a different perspective, and it's my experience,
Speaker 1: and it's my breaking it down and on my terms,
Speaker 1: and it's that's why I'm asking you that, because you
Speaker 1: and Tory know where you came from, and you're also
Speaker 1: not being stupid to go start talking with something new
Speaker 1: that people don't actually want to hear about as much
Speaker 1: as they want to hear about something that was iconic.
Speaker 1: So it feels like you are you maybe always have
Speaker 1: leaned into it, but now you really, as a mom
Speaker 1: and a woman and you've gone through health issues, like
Speaker 1: you're coming at it from a very different perspective. Yes, definitely,
Speaker 1: I think that, you know, if I when I do
Speaker 1: have other projects to talk about or whatever, of course
Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about that. But it's like like again,
Speaker 1: it's part of my genealogy at this point, you know,
Speaker 1: and I'll take it with me wherever I go, and
Speaker 1: I'm proud of it. I'm not embarrassed by it. But
Speaker 1: I'm not like you said, I didn't choose to leave
Speaker 1: the show. I was there all ten years because I
Speaker 1: really loved the whole thing. Yeah yeah, and it was
Speaker 1: like my little protective cocoon that whole life. And other
Speaker 1: people in the cast, though, did make you know, a
Speaker 1: couple of leaps and do go and do other things
Speaker 1: because maybe they felt it wasn't the right environment for
Speaker 1: them anymore like you, and you know, then you're gonna
Speaker 1: face a whole different set of obstacles. I think, Oh,
Speaker 1: you did the whole ride for better for words, that's interesting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there was a ride, and I'm sure there were of
Speaker 1: things that weren't positive, but all in, it was very
Speaker 1: blessed to have had the opportunity. And it sounds like
Speaker 1: as a person, you seems to organize and structured and intentional,
Speaker 1: but it sounds like you go with the flow, you
Speaker 1: go where the fish are you Like, Oh, I like that,
Speaker 1: I'll do that. I like this, I'll do that. Like
Speaker 1: it sounds like you are strategic, but not overtly, like
Speaker 1: you kind of are open to different experiences that present themselves.
Speaker 1: That's so interesting that you pick up on that, because
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not a planner. I have always from day
Speaker 1: one just gone with the energy, you know, go with
Speaker 1: the flow, like they said, go with the fishes or whatever.
Speaker 1: But I've never had a plan, And often in my
Speaker 1: life I felt like, what's wrong with me? Why don't
Speaker 1: I have a plan? Why don't I have goals and
Speaker 1: know what I want to do by this age like
Speaker 1: other people and you know, have it all laid out
Speaker 1: for me. But I've never been that way. And I
Speaker 1: can't worry about things because it'll all just always come
Speaker 1: in the minute I start ripping onto worry about whether
Speaker 1: whether it's finances or my next job, or my health
Speaker 1: or my kids, whatever it is. That's when things fall
Speaker 1: apart as well. You don't white knuckle, you don't strangle it,
Speaker 1: you don't like you let it breathe. It's funny though,
Speaker 1: because most people would think that I am like that.
Speaker 1: I'm oddly like you two. I've never had a big plan.
Speaker 1: I doesn't mean that I didn't want to do something.
Speaker 1: I want to do that. Oh yeah, I want to
Speaker 1: get on that thing whatever that is, the Apprentice. I
Speaker 1: want to get on that weird show, you know, not
Speaker 1: the celebrity one, the normal person one, And like, I
Speaker 1: want to do that thing. And if I don't get
Speaker 1: on that thing, okay, this is the next thing. I
Speaker 1: want to do, healthy cookies. I want to have, you know.
Speaker 1: And then that fails or succeeds. But overall, I'm the
Speaker 1: same as you and I just do what I want
Speaker 1: to do, which is surprising, Like I don't. Yesterday I
Speaker 1: got offered this TV show that's good money and it's great.
Speaker 1: I'm so literal. I'm like, okay, it means going to
Speaker 1: LA twice? What is that exactly worth? And I thought about,
Speaker 1: like my financial, spiritual, emotional, what is it? What is
Speaker 1: it monetarily worth? What is it, you know, health wise
Speaker 1: and like, I only do what if I want to.
Speaker 1: I'm like you, I'm not like strangling onto. I want
Speaker 1: to be a billionaire. I want to be a mogul.
Speaker 1: I have like no real major goals, which is interesting
Speaker 1: to people, right, Yeah, Like I don't really have big goals.
Speaker 1: I just do. I go where it's going and I
Speaker 1: ride the waves. Yep, I think that that there's something
Speaker 1: to it. It's working for us. Yeah, it's working for us.
Speaker 1: And you could be a billionaire by now if you
Speaker 1: strangle something else, but you wouldn't be you, and you
Speaker 1: might probably would be happy. Like in other words, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be happy if I took every goddamn thing I
Speaker 1: was offered. I don't want to do it righta pajamas
Speaker 1: And I kind of goes back to what you were
Speaker 1: saying about my manager from from so long ago. My
Speaker 1: career would be in a different place. I have no
Speaker 1: idea where that would be better or worse. Who knows?
Speaker 1: This is what I would be happy because I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have him by my side, you know. Yeah, I really
Speaker 1: do get that. I really really really really get that
Speaker 1: this is the road you chose. Funny, all right, so BF,
Speaker 1: that's cute and simple, and um, everybody has one, you know,
Speaker 1: everybody has one. But it's interesting that you got the name.
Speaker 1: I know. Yeah, how long that must have been a
Speaker 1: while ago? No, it was. It all came together in
Speaker 1: the last few years that we started the BF collection
Speaker 1: for you know, QBC. They came to us and said
Speaker 1: they were interested in doing something with us, and we
Speaker 1: that just opened up our minds for a creative imagination
Speaker 1: and what we wanted to do, and we decided to
Speaker 1: start out in the home space. Um, I want to
Speaker 1: go there? Do you go there to? We did for
Speaker 1: our launch in January. We went to QBC in Pennsylvania
Speaker 1: as Chester and we had a really great experience. It's
Speaker 1: it's intense, but it's good and we have another drop
Speaker 1: coming in July, so we'll be back on air for that,
Speaker 1: which is something to look forward to. So, BF, this
Speaker 1: is your collection, that's home and food and kitchen and
Speaker 1: you guys together. How did this even come to pass?
Speaker 1: You met with QVC and they just said they wanted
Speaker 1: to do an in house brand with you. Yes, that great.
Speaker 1: Basically how it happened. It was brought to us through
Speaker 1: an agent and they made the connection and then we
Speaker 1: had the call and it would just seem like the
Speaker 1: right fit. And we were excited because they were taking
Speaker 1: care of all the manufacturing and all the costs and
Speaker 1: everything up front. All we had to do was create
Speaker 1: our business, you know, all of the things that went
Speaker 1: with that, which was a lot and being new, you know,
Speaker 1: we had never I had never done this before. So
Speaker 1: I've learned so much along the way, and I keep learning,
Speaker 1: you know. It's it's definitely a learning process. This is
Speaker 1: your first business venture since being on television, Like, you've
Speaker 1: never monetized it in a business way, in a brand way. Interesting.
Speaker 1: That's interesting and smart and great categories and great for
Speaker 1: the two of you. And like I said, leaning into
Speaker 1: the branding and your equal partners. You're in business together now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we are at twenty fifty, and it's great to have
Speaker 1: somebody that you're in business with like that, that you've
Speaker 1: known for so long and you know in and out
Speaker 1: and you trust when you really trust each other, and
Speaker 1: you know in our relationship, you know, when we both
Speaker 1: have our own separate lives and are certainly our own
Speaker 1: separate personalities. Were very different, people were very similar in
Speaker 1: a lot of ways too, and a thought partner, so
Speaker 1: I said a thought, partner, Absolutely, so you're married. I'm married, yes,
Speaker 1: And how long have you been married? We got married
Speaker 1: in fifteen I think, so seven years, seven, eight years
Speaker 1: something like that. We took a year off, okay, but
Speaker 1: to collect ourselves because it was whirlwind we got we
Speaker 1: met and got engaged in three months and they got
Speaker 1: married in six months, and that was crazy and a
Speaker 1: little ambitious. So we both needed a minute to like
Speaker 1: digest that and took a break and kind of thought
Speaker 1: that that was the end of it. We thought we
Speaker 1: were going to get a divorce because it was just
Speaker 1: challenging and neither of us were really prepared for those challenges.
Speaker 1: He's nine years younger than me, okay, which is significant,
Speaker 1: and in a different place in his life career wise
Speaker 1: and just independence wise. Was it was very different still
Speaker 1: now or you're saying back then now it's come together.
Speaker 1: Back then, it's come together now because you know, we've
Speaker 1: kind of can be you know what's the word when
Speaker 1: you can jail congine something together merged where we've merged.
Speaker 1: So in the beginning it was tricky and in the
Speaker 1: beginning because it was just passion and love. But like then,
Speaker 1: you got into the brass tacks of life, like kids
Speaker 1: and blending and accident things like I had three young
Speaker 1: girls too, and I wanted a stable environment environment for them,
Speaker 1: and I wanted to be able to provide that. And
Speaker 1: you know, Dave, my husband, just brought a really fun
Speaker 1: like light energy into our home which was really needed
Speaker 1: after a pretty dark period of time for myself, which
Speaker 1: for the girls too, and just that, you know, he
Speaker 1: came in and brightened things up and everybody just fell
Speaker 1: in love with him. And then when he then when
Speaker 1: we split up, you know, that energy kind of went
Speaker 1: away and I had to sort of figure out the
Speaker 1: family unit again on my own. And just when I
Speaker 1: had to figure it out again, we decided to get
Speaker 1: back together. And the kids always loved him. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean it took them a minute because you know, they
Speaker 1: didn't want Mom to be with anyone but their dad
Speaker 1: for a long time. But now they love him and
Speaker 1: they love what he brings to the table of our family.
Speaker 1: And with world divorce challenges on the spectrum, are you guys,
Speaker 1: do you have a decent divorce, like a decent Gorden
Speaker 1: variety divorce. Yeah, I would say, all in all, definitely
Speaker 1: I'm you know, super happy that he's still in the
Speaker 1: girl's lives and he's a good dad and he means
Speaker 1: a lot to the girls. And we've we've both been
Speaker 1: just and extremely like it's about the girls, you know,
Speaker 1: which is not about We're always on that page. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so the so you've that, that's that's that's actually pretty stellar.
Speaker 1: That's like a pretty happily ever divorced to be honest,
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I mean it wasn't roses for sure,
Speaker 1: especially in the beginning, because I didn't want it and
Speaker 1: being such a loyal person, I was not interested in
Speaker 1: ending the family, you know, the family in it. So
Speaker 1: it took a while for me. But now we're we're
Speaker 1: and we're almost done. Our youngest is sixteen, so we
Speaker 1: only really have two more years of co parenting, right,
Speaker 1: and we're both kind of like, who there's a light
Speaker 1: at the end of the tunnel. Yeah. Yeah. Co parenting
Speaker 1: is definitely a struggle and decisions and opinions on what
Speaker 1: you know. It's funny because people think when the kids
Speaker 1: are younger that it's about I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I can't believe giving up some time and I can't
Speaker 1: believe I could be my kid all the time. And
Speaker 1: the truth is not until they become tweens do you
Speaker 1: realize it's not really about time. It's about decisions over
Speaker 1: health matters and over sports and over and consistency, like
Speaker 1: that's the heart was hard hard for for me was
Speaker 1: like I'm their mom all the time, Rye, and when
Speaker 1: when they would go to his house, I would have
Speaker 1: to step back and not have such an opinion or
Speaker 1: such like involvement in their day to day stuff or
Speaker 1: they're more for me their emotional well being because I'm
Speaker 1: really into into like that side of right being a parent,
Speaker 1: and he's a little bit more on the functional side. Yes,
Speaker 1: So that was really challenging for me. And I mean
Speaker 1: but when they would go whenever they go to their
Speaker 1: dad's house, I'm literally on the phone or on the
Speaker 1: text or constantly in contact with them, so right, it's
Speaker 1: like I'm not there. But it was very hard to
Speaker 1: adjust to not feeling like I was being a consistent
Speaker 1: parent because because I had no choice, like that was
Speaker 1: no I and then things and you see differences when
Speaker 1: your kids come back, it's like you got it. It's
Speaker 1: almost like a lack of a better word, like retraining.
Speaker 1: Like even like they'll be tonal differences from someone's house
Speaker 1: to the next, or someone comes back, they will actress sassy.
Speaker 1: You're just like, okay, well that's not going to work here.
Speaker 1: Whatever the matter is, you know, always a little different.
Speaker 1: I'm a feeling they're a little sassier when they go
Speaker 1: back to his house, because my house it's all about
Speaker 1: like let it, let it fly, like feel your feelings
Speaker 1: and right, you have a lot of fun with each
Speaker 1: other's feelings. So that's funny, um, And what about your
Speaker 1: health and authritis? And it's funny because we were more
Speaker 1: vulnerable as we get older and words I was reading
Speaker 1: about your struggle and words like osteopathic authritis make you
Speaker 1: feel like you're older. They make you think about being
Speaker 1: there for your kids, and like they make you just
Speaker 1: feel differently like I have an autoimmune issue and it
Speaker 1: just you know, when you're not at your best, you
Speaker 1: just feel that the machine can break down, and it
Speaker 1: makes you feel vulnerable emotionally and physically. So I wonder
Speaker 1: about that part of your life. Yeah, life becomes so
Speaker 1: much more valuable when you look at it from that perspective.
Speaker 1: I mean from an early age though my dad suffered
Speaker 1: as a start attack when he was thirty seven. So
Speaker 1: since I've been in my thirties, I've been uber just
Speaker 1: like responsible about my own health, being my own health advocate,
Speaker 1: and then started with my health, my heart health, and
Speaker 1: I still am a big I work a lot with
Speaker 1: American Heart Association, and I do a lot of talking
Speaker 1: about heart health and especially it's effect on women. So
Speaker 1: that's been really important to me now and as I've
Speaker 1: gotten older, brain health mental health has also been something
Speaker 1: that I've struggled with my entire life. And now that
Speaker 1: it's such a big conversation, I'm so happy about that
Speaker 1: and it's able to talk about it more freely and
Speaker 1: reach more people. And now also now with arthritis, like
Speaker 1: having you know, ostro arthritis runs in my family. I
Speaker 1: actually have a already have a fake hip. I have
Speaker 1: my hip replaced. Wow, which is significant because God, yeah,
Speaker 1: that like in twenty twenties, so it's a few years ago, right,
Speaker 1: but you know, just being able to talk about stuff
Speaker 1: like that and sort of like get rid of the
Speaker 1: stigma of like we're all gonna age, We're all going
Speaker 1: bodies are going to stay to break down, we gotta
Speaker 1: go through this together and talk about it. It's not embarrassing.
Speaker 1: It is what it is exactly exactly. And what would
Speaker 1: you say the top three things that are in your
Speaker 1: everyday life for heart health do you sort of abide
Speaker 1: by like? And then brain health? Like, what are tools,
Speaker 1: tips or things that you could say to somebody else
Speaker 1: for heart health? Okay? Number one is well obviously no smoking,
Speaker 1: drinking out all smoke or drink. No dairy. People don't
Speaker 1: really talk about that very often, but I really believe
Speaker 1: that dairy causes inflammation in our bodies. I feel it
Speaker 1: definitely when I eat dairy or when I have eaten dairy.
Speaker 1: We don't I've never given my kids dairy, Like, I
Speaker 1: just don't think it's good for you, Okay, and it
Speaker 1: kind of grosses me out. Activity obviously staying active, exercising,
Speaker 1: even if it's just walking. Like my mom is eighty
Speaker 1: and I'm every day I'm calling her and saying it,
Speaker 1: did you go for your walk today? But it's a
Speaker 1: good day. You can go out and put on your
Speaker 1: rain gooat. You can still walk when the rain, when
Speaker 1: it's raining. And knowing, I think, especially knowing your your
Speaker 1: genetic predisisposition to heart disease is really important and keeping
Speaker 1: your BMI your body muscle ratio, your fat ratio to
Speaker 1: your muscle ratio, keeping that in a normal, healthy range.
Speaker 1: And I think it's good to work with a doctor
Speaker 1: to know what your BMI should be and just to
Speaker 1: keep it all in check because as we get older,
Speaker 1: we let anything go. It's so much harder to get
Speaker 1: back on the rails once you deviate, you know, once
Speaker 1: you start gaining too much weight or becoming inactive, you know,
Speaker 1: it's really hard to get back. So just don't let
Speaker 1: it get to that point. Yeah, think ahead, beyond the case,
Speaker 1: beyond the case, got it? And what about for mental health?
Speaker 1: Mental health? Oh my gosh. I'm a believer in therapy.
Speaker 1: Have there have been times when I've been in intensive therapy.
Speaker 1: There have been times when I'm like, right now, I'm
Speaker 1: not really in a daily I mean a weekly therapy
Speaker 1: kind of situation. It's like an as needed thing. I
Speaker 1: think therapy is great. And if you can get therapy
Speaker 1: from talking to your friends, that's that's pretty good too.
Speaker 1: I take a lot of brain supplements because I work
Speaker 1: with a doctor. His name's doctor Amen, doctor Daniel Aman,
Speaker 1: and he is a leading brain doctor out there, and
Speaker 1: he's really educated me with the fact that much like
Speaker 1: the heart, which can regenerate and kind of heal itself
Speaker 1: if you take care of it, which is amazing to think,
Speaker 1: if you've done damage to your heart by smoking or drinking,
Speaker 1: you can fix it by living healthier lifestyle. Same with
Speaker 1: the brain. And the brain and the heart are the
Speaker 1: most vital things in our bodies, so taking care of
Speaker 1: them is just a no brainer. It's a yes brainer,
Speaker 1: a yes, yes. So I take a lot of supplements,
Speaker 1: and I also I just you know, I study Buddhism.
Speaker 1: I'm never been a religious person of any kind, but
Speaker 1: bud Buddhism relates to the most with me, sort of
Speaker 1: resonates the most with me their messages. I do that weakly.
Speaker 1: I take a Dharma class with my sixteen year old daughter,
Speaker 1: and yeah, I've been going to for a long time
Speaker 1: and I started taking her and I think it's made
Speaker 1: an incredible difference in her ability to control her mind,
Speaker 1: which is a really big challenge for people that have
Speaker 1: a lot of chatter going on up there. I mean
Speaker 1: some of us more than others, but everybody's got that
Speaker 1: like constant like noise that we're dealing with, you know, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: and I think it's helped her a lot. Do they
Speaker 1: do they watch your episodes? Do they care or is
Speaker 1: that like a total different life? And they it's like
Speaker 1: peripheral for them. They watch it. They watch it back
Speaker 1: with me for my podcast every week after watch it
Speaker 1: back theyd been doing it with me. But they've all
Speaker 1: seen it. They've all seen all of what I like
Speaker 1: about you. They've watched everything that There's My girls are
Speaker 1: so supportive and like they're my biggest fans and they
Speaker 1: will tell you that too, and it's mutual obviously, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I just know that they're you know, they love it
Speaker 1: and they are not embarrassed by me most of the time.
Speaker 1: So that's good. And so you have three daughters, but
Speaker 1: you did not your husband didn't have kids, and you
Speaker 1: didn't have another child. This is your your this is
Speaker 1: your family. This is it all the same father? Yeah,
Speaker 1: got it amazing. Well, it was so amazing to meet
Speaker 1: you and really get to talk to you and learn
Speaker 1: about you. And I've admired you from afar and now
Speaker 1: I admire you from close. So I really appreciate you
Speaker 1: taking the time too. Yes, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: I'm so happy to finally get to chat me too.
Speaker 1: And Tori did my other show, Rewives, which was she
Speaker 1: was amazing. It was really really fun and ridiculous. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you've ever watched, if you ever want
Speaker 1: to come on, it's yeah, it's very very silly stupid,
Speaker 1: but there's actually a lot of takeaway too, so if
Speaker 1: you ever want to do it, it's fun. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: check it out. Yeah, awesome, all right, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: Of a great day too. She was so nice. How
Speaker 1: nice is she? She deserves everything. She's beautiful and sweet
Speaker 1: and like what a cute blondie, and so honest and calm,
Speaker 1: and I really liked her. She was amazing.