1 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: Jenny Garth skyrocketed to start and with her role as 2 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: Kelly Taylor on Beverly Hills nine O two one zero, 3 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: the show remains one of the most successful and iconic 4 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: television series ever produced. Since then, Jenny in longtime bff 5 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: Tori Spelling, partnered to create their rewatch podcast nine O 6 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: two one OMG. Great name. Jenny joins me to share 7 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: all the behind the scenes stories we need to know. 8 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: This is just me with Jenny Garth. Hey, lady, nice 9 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: to meet you. It really meet you, like I know, 10 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: I can't even it's crazy. We've never actually met in 11 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: the flesh that I'm a fan and a friend of 12 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: yours from a bar. It's so weird to meet people 13 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: here and then have them say thanks to me like 14 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: I'm a fan when I wasn't in any sort of 15 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: public eye until my late thirties. Really, and you I 16 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 1: literally remember in walking into the whiskey and seeing you 17 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 1: guys come in when you were on Beverly Hills and 18 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: it was just, you know, the gen zs and gen Xes. 19 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: Don't really realize how insane that was, Like that was cult, 20 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: Like I can't think about what now is as crazy 21 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: as that was. What do you think is as crazy 22 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: like stranger things maybe or like out of banks, Like, yeah, 23 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: that's how crazy it was for people listening like it 24 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: was out of banks level. It was crazy. I think 25 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: it was crazier because there was no Internet. The people 26 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: had to work really hard to like see us and 27 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: you know, be in those rooms with us. So they 28 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: were really invested. And I'm the fans of the original 29 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 1: nine to two on l they're the best fans in 30 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: the world that they're still fans and they I mean 31 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: we talked to them, we know them, you know through 32 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: the podcast. We get a lot of interaction with them 33 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: and they're like friends. It's crazy how the bond it is. 34 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: It is crazy. And I and also because there was 35 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: so much less competition than there weren't five thousand shows 36 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: that it was like the only game going on in 37 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: town for sure. So what I what's jumping off the 38 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: page for me is um, So you were a child 39 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: actor though I never did a commercial. I started acting 40 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: when I was sixteen seventeen. Oh yeah, I had like 41 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: two jobs before I landed Beverly Hills nine twenty and 42 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 1: then that was that. So where were you living and 43 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: what made you decide that you wanted to be an 44 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: actress at that age, and how did you pursue that 45 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 1: at that age? How did you go about it? Well, 46 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 1: I was I wasn't pursuing it. Like, I didn't know 47 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 1: I want to be an actress. I didn't know what 48 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 1: I wanted to be. I still don't know what I 49 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 1: want to be. But I really was just sort of 50 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: led into this. I was dancing, and I thought it 51 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 1: was going to be like a dance teacher for little kids. 52 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: I didn't know. But then I met a man named 53 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: Randy James who wanted to represent me and brought me 54 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 1: out to Hollywood and put me in acting classes, and 55 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: right away I was auditioning, and I was so lucky 56 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: enough to book stuff and get that ball rolling, and 57 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: then it just kept rolling and kept rolling, and then 58 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I was an actress. Wow. Yeah, 59 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: and brought you to La Hollywood from where at that 60 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: time I was living in Arizona. So wait a second. 61 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: That's that means someone really like was impressed by you 62 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: to take you to another state and then and no 63 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: one would ever like, no one would ever pay for 64 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: something like that. Now, I mean that person was like 65 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: I'm going to take care of it, and I'm bringing 66 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: you to l I have a feeling about you, and 67 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: that was like a manager or something. Well, it was 68 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: a little different. He discovered me. He was I was 69 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: doing this scholarship pageant where I was dancing, and it 70 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: was basically a beauty pageant, but I like to call 71 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,839 Speaker 1: it a scholarship pageant because it weirds me out less. 72 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: But he was one of the guest judges for this thing, 73 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: and he said, if you ever want to pursue it, 74 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: give me a call. So my mom and I talked 75 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: about it, and then we pursued it in Arizona and 76 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 1: I took like an acting class, and we would send 77 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: my tapes to him and give he would give us 78 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: us notes and his thoughts. And then one day my 79 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: mom and I would just planned a trip out to 80 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: la We knocked on his door and he said, Hi, 81 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: you know you said if we were ever wanted to 82 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: give this a go, we should come back, and so 83 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 1: we did. Wow. That the interest, The most interesting part 84 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 1: of this story is that he discovered me when I 85 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: was sixteen seven sixteen and he is still to the 86 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: stay of my manager's which is crazy. That's a family member. Yeah, 87 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: it's like it's like definitely my best friend, my father figure, 88 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 1: all of it. That's unbelievable. And how proud is he? 89 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: I mean, is that crazy? It's so nostalgic, it is. 90 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: I mean, we just had a meeting yesterday together. We 91 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 1: don't get to see each other that often, but we 92 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: had a meeting in person yesterday, and I just love 93 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: being with him. It just feels like I'm with you know, 94 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: I'm protected, and he knows me, you know, it knows 95 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: everything about me. But it feels like you both learned 96 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: this industry together. Because in many cases, you know, agents 97 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: and managers, you know they're not worth their weight because 98 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: you really could do a lot of things yourself. So 99 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: is it that he actually has the skill set still 100 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: or is it more loyalty you know what I mean? 101 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: And both are fine. It's I'm a very loyal person, 102 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: like loyal to a fault, and I don't think that's 103 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: a negative thing. I think that kind of ties into 104 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: like my Midwestern roots. I'm just a very loyal person. 105 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: But more than that, he's a really good manager. He's 106 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: taking care of He's been like my colonel, Like I 107 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: always call them the kind of the same similar relationship. Um, 108 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: he's uh, he grew he when he signed me, he 109 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:12,239 Speaker 1: was early. He had been an casting executive at ABC 110 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: and was a big deal in that, so he knew 111 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: what he's doing. And then he started his own management 112 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 1: firm and I was one of his first clients. So 113 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 1: he definitely learned a lot along this journey as well. Um, 114 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: so we were more like friends, you know, on this 115 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: kind of journey together. That's so nice. And you trust 116 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: and trust and um, you just said he was like 117 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: your father figures, so it was your mom. And you 118 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 1: have brothers and sisters. I have wore half sisters and 119 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: two half brothers, so it was up before you or 120 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: after you were before Okay, So then my parents got married, 121 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: had me, and functionally, were you spending a lot of 122 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: time with those siblings or functions? So you feel like no, okay, definitely. 123 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: And you and Tory you met on the show and 124 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: then you became best friends, and you really have been 125 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: this close since back then. Yes, Tory Spelling and I 126 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: we met obviously playing Kelly and Donna in nineteen ninety 127 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: and we were forced to be together very intimately for 128 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: ten years, you know, playing best friends on camera, and 129 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: it definitely sort of came across. We were young and 130 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: those were the only people we ever hung out with 131 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: was our cast and our crew. So obviously we became 132 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: very close and that never ended. And you know, thirty, 133 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: I think three years, four years later, we've been through 134 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: so much and we've shared our lives together here and 135 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: there throughout all of that, and it's just I think, 136 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:51,679 Speaker 1: not just with Tory, but with the rest of the cast, 137 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: what we experienced during those ten years together and that 138 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: kind of bond that we made it it can never 139 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: be broken. There's there's never I would never not do 140 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: something that one of them asked me to do. I'd 141 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: always drop things to be there for them, you know. 142 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: And there's not a lot of people you can say 143 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:17,679 Speaker 1: that about. Wow, And it really overall was a pleasant experience, meaning, 144 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: you know, having left, having left to show myself that 145 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: has a certain connotation, but also to the point of 146 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: what you're saying, being there in the very, very beginning, 147 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: there's like nothing can take away that crazy experience of 148 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 1: being in the beginning of something that becomes part of 149 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: the zeitgeist and like part of popular culture that you know, 150 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 1: the president and was mentioning housewives in certain forms like 151 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 1: it was crazy, but it does it was reality, which 152 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 1: is not scripted. So being on a script to show 153 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: you have a little more of a shield of you're 154 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: playing another character that doesn't necessarily reflect who you are, 155 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 1: even though I'm sure a lot of you bled in 156 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: and out. So I asked, like, was it all a pot? 157 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: Was it all always positive and positive connotation? Like did 158 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 1: you ever want to did you ever want to disassociate 159 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: from from that meaning? You know, for years Jim Carrey 160 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: was comedy and wanted to not be the comedy guy. 161 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: I wanted to try at being the drama guy. And 162 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: sometimes people feel like they're locked into, you know, your 163 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: pigeonholed or put in a certain box. But it seems 164 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: by reading about you, by your podcast, by your business 165 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: that you either have always or you are certainly now 166 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: really leaning into what made you successful and just saying, Okay, 167 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: that's where the fish are, that's what it is, that's 168 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 1: what my fan base wants, that's who I really am. 169 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 1: So was it always like that or you had to 170 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 1: like come back to it? Did you want to like 171 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: break out and be Beyonce and not be with Destiny's 172 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:49,839 Speaker 1: Child anymore. Well after when the show finished ten years later, 173 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: there was definitely that moment of like, WHOA, where am I? 174 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: What is happening? What do I do? Where do I 175 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: go from here? And I had done drama first many years, 176 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: so much drama because my character in particular was like 177 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: the most dramatic character on the show. I think there's 178 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: nothing that Kelly Taylor didn't endure at which I love doing. 179 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: And then at that point though, I was like, I 180 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: want to do a comedy. I want to feel what 181 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:18,719 Speaker 1: it feels like to make people laugh, and I want 182 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: to have joy in my workplace, in my day. And 183 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 1: so then I went and did a show called What 184 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: I Like About You was on the WB at the 185 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: time with Amanda Bines, and that was so much fun. 186 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: We did that for four years. But I've never been 187 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: a kind of person, like I said before, I'm really loyal. 188 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 1: I've never been a person that I'll ever turn my 189 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: back on something, especially something that had such a profound 190 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: effect on my life as it is today. My gratitude 191 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 1: for just that fact that it made me who I am. 192 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: And I've taken you know, I've taken all the good 193 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: parts of it and left all the bad parts and 194 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: move forward with that. So it's like some being that 195 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: it's in the fibers of who I am, and I'm 196 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: I'm so appreciative of it, of it that of course 197 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 1: I'm going to lean into I've always leaned into that 198 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: before leaning into something was even a thing, like it's 199 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: just who I am. Yeah, I ask because I guess 200 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: maybe during those ten years, like when I left my show, 201 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: I had to give reasons why I left. I mean 202 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: your show and you know, but I had to give 203 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: reasons why, and it was perceived and actually a little 204 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: true that, like it was a little toxic and I 205 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: left for a reason. But in doing Rewives my other podcast, 206 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: it's sort of leaning back into it, saying I can 207 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: comment this from a different perspective, and it's my experience, 208 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: and it's my breaking it down and on my terms, 209 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: and it's that's why I'm asking you that, because you 210 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: and Tory know where you came from, and you're also 211 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: not being stupid to go start talking with something new 212 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 1: that people don't actually want to hear about as much 213 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 1: as they want to hear about something that was iconic. 214 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 1: So it feels like you are you maybe always have 215 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: leaned into it, but now you really, as a mom 216 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,599 Speaker 1: and a woman and you've gone through health issues, like 217 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:12,319 Speaker 1: you're coming at it from a very different perspective. Yes, definitely, 218 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: I think that, you know, if I when I do 219 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: have other projects to talk about or whatever, of course 220 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about that. But it's like like again, 221 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 1: it's part of my genealogy at this point, you know, 222 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: and I'll take it with me wherever I go, and 223 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:33,719 Speaker 1: I'm proud of it. I'm not embarrassed by it. But 224 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: I'm not like you said, I didn't choose to leave 225 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,599 Speaker 1: the show. I was there all ten years because I 226 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:43,599 Speaker 1: really loved the whole thing. Yeah yeah, and it was 227 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: like my little protective cocoon that whole life. And other 228 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: people in the cast, though, did make you know, a 229 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: couple of leaps and do go and do other things 230 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 1: because maybe they felt it wasn't the right environment for 231 00:12:56,520 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: them anymore like you, and you know, then you're gonna 232 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: face a whole different set of obstacles. I think, Oh, 233 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: you did the whole ride for better for words, that's interesting. Yeah, 234 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 1: there was a ride, and I'm sure there were of 235 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 1: things that weren't positive, but all in, it was very 236 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,839 Speaker 1: blessed to have had the opportunity. And it sounds like 237 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: as a person, you seems to organize and structured and intentional, 238 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 1: but it sounds like you go with the flow, you 239 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: go where the fish are you Like, Oh, I like that, 240 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 1: I'll do that. I like this, I'll do that. Like 241 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: it sounds like you are strategic, but not overtly, like 242 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: you kind of are open to different experiences that present themselves. 243 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: That's so interesting that you pick up on that, because 244 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 1: I'm I'm not a planner. I have always from day 245 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: one just gone with the energy, you know, go with 246 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: the flow, like they said, go with the fishes or whatever. 247 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: But I've never had a plan, And often in my 248 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: life I felt like, what's wrong with me? Why don't 249 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: I have a plan? Why don't I have goals and 250 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: know what I want to do by this age like 251 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: other people and you know, have it all laid out 252 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,839 Speaker 1: for me. But I've never been that way. And I 253 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: can't worry about things because it'll all just always come 254 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 1: in the minute I start ripping onto worry about whether 255 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: whether it's finances or my next job, or my health 256 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: or my kids, whatever it is. That's when things fall 257 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 1: apart as well. You don't white knuckle, you don't strangle it, 258 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: you don't like you let it breathe. It's funny though, 259 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: because most people would think that I am like that. 260 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: I'm oddly like you two. I've never had a big plan. 261 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: I doesn't mean that I didn't want to do something. 262 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: I want to do that. Oh yeah, I want to 263 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: get on that thing whatever that is, the Apprentice. I 264 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: want to get on that weird show, you know, not 265 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: the celebrity one, the normal person one, And like, I 266 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: want to do that thing. And if I don't get 267 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: on that thing, okay, this is the next thing. I 268 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: want to do, healthy cookies. I want to have, you know. 269 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: And then that fails or succeeds. But overall, I'm the 270 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: same as you and I just do what I want 271 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: to do, which is surprising, Like I don't. Yesterday I 272 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: got offered this TV show that's good money and it's great. 273 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: I'm so literal. I'm like, okay, it means going to 274 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: LA twice? What is that exactly worth? And I thought about, 275 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: like my financial, spiritual, emotional, what is it? What is 276 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: it monetarily worth? What is it, you know, health wise 277 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: and like, I only do what if I want to. 278 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: I'm like you, I'm not like strangling onto. I want 279 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: to be a billionaire. I want to be a mogul. 280 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: I have like no real major goals, which is interesting 281 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: to people, right, Yeah, Like I don't really have big goals. 282 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: I just do. I go where it's going and I 283 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: ride the waves. Yep, I think that that there's something 284 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: to it. It's working for us. Yeah, it's working for us. 285 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: And you could be a billionaire by now if you 286 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: strangle something else, but you wouldn't be you, and you 287 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: might probably would be happy. Like in other words, I 288 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: wouldn't be happy if I took every goddamn thing I 289 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: was offered. I don't want to do it righta pajamas 290 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: And I kind of goes back to what you were 291 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: saying about my manager from from so long ago. My 292 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: career would be in a different place. I have no 293 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: idea where that would be better or worse. Who knows? 294 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: This is what I would be happy because I wouldn't 295 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: have him by my side, you know. Yeah, I really 296 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: do get that. I really really really really get that 297 00:15:55,760 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: this is the road you chose. Funny, all right, so BF, 298 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: that's cute and simple, and um, everybody has one, you know, 299 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: everybody has one. But it's interesting that you got the name. 300 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: I know. Yeah, how long that must have been a 301 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: while ago? No, it was. It all came together in 302 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: the last few years that we started the BF collection 303 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: for you know, QBC. They came to us and said 304 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: they were interested in doing something with us, and we 305 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: that just opened up our minds for a creative imagination 306 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: and what we wanted to do, and we decided to 307 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: start out in the home space. Um, I want to 308 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: go there? Do you go there to? We did for 309 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: our launch in January. We went to QBC in Pennsylvania 310 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: as Chester and we had a really great experience. It's 311 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: it's intense, but it's good and we have another drop 312 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: coming in July, so we'll be back on air for that, 313 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,040 Speaker 1: which is something to look forward to. So, BF, this 314 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: is your collection, that's home and food and kitchen and 315 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: you guys together. How did this even come to pass? 316 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: You met with QVC and they just said they wanted 317 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: to do an in house brand with you. Yes, that great. 318 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: Basically how it happened. It was brought to us through 319 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: an agent and they made the connection and then we 320 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: had the call and it would just seem like the 321 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: right fit. And we were excited because they were taking 322 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: care of all the manufacturing and all the costs and 323 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: everything up front. All we had to do was create 324 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: our business, you know, all of the things that went 325 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 1: with that, which was a lot and being new, you know, 326 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: we had never I had never done this before. So 327 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: I've learned so much along the way, and I keep learning, 328 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: you know. It's it's definitely a learning process. This is 329 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 1: your first business venture since being on television, Like, you've 330 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: never monetized it in a business way, in a brand way. Interesting. 331 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: That's interesting and smart and great categories and great for 332 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: the two of you. And like I said, leaning into 333 00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 1: the branding and your equal partners. You're in business together now. Yeah, 334 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: we are at twenty fifty, and it's great to have 335 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: somebody that you're in business with like that, that you've 336 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: known for so long and you know in and out 337 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: and you trust when you really trust each other, and 338 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: you know in our relationship, you know, when we both 339 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 1: have our own separate lives and are certainly our own 340 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: separate personalities. Were very different, people were very similar in 341 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: a lot of ways too, and a thought partner, so 342 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 1: I said a thought, partner, Absolutely, so you're married. I'm married, yes, 343 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: And how long have you been married? We got married 344 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: in fifteen I think, so seven years, seven, eight years 345 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: something like that. We took a year off, okay, but 346 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: to collect ourselves because it was whirlwind we got we 347 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 1: met and got engaged in three months and they got 348 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 1: married in six months, and that was crazy and a 349 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: little ambitious. So we both needed a minute to like 350 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: digest that and took a break and kind of thought 351 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: that that was the end of it. We thought we 352 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: were going to get a divorce because it was just 353 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: challenging and neither of us were really prepared for those challenges. 354 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 1: He's nine years younger than me, okay, which is significant, 355 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: and in a different place in his life career wise 356 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: and just independence wise. Was it was very different still 357 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: now or you're saying back then now it's come together. 358 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 1: Back then, it's come together now because you know, we've 359 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: kind of can be you know what's the word when 360 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: you can jail congine something together merged where we've merged. 361 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: So in the beginning it was tricky and in the 362 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 1: beginning because it was just passion and love. But like then, 363 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: you got into the brass tacks of life, like kids 364 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: and blending and accident things like I had three young 365 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 1: girls too, and I wanted a stable environment environment for them, 366 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 1: and I wanted to be able to provide that. And 367 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: you know, Dave, my husband, just brought a really fun 368 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 1: like light energy into our home which was really needed 369 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: after a pretty dark period of time for myself, which 370 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: for the girls too, and just that, you know, he 371 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 1: came in and brightened things up and everybody just fell 372 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: in love with him. And then when he then when 373 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: we split up, you know, that energy kind of went 374 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: away and I had to sort of figure out the 375 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: family unit again on my own. And just when I 376 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 1: had to figure it out again, we decided to get 377 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: back together. And the kids always loved him. Yeah, I 378 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: mean it took them a minute because you know, they 379 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 1: didn't want Mom to be with anyone but their dad 380 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: for a long time. But now they love him and 381 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: they love what he brings to the table of our family. 382 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: And with world divorce challenges on the spectrum, are you guys, 383 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: do you have a decent divorce, like a decent Gorden 384 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: variety divorce. Yeah, I would say, all in all, definitely 385 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 1: I'm you know, super happy that he's still in the 386 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: girl's lives and he's a good dad and he means 387 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: a lot to the girls. And we've we've both been 388 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: just and extremely like it's about the girls, you know, 389 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: which is not about We're always on that page. Yeah, 390 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 1: so the so you've that, that's that's that's actually pretty stellar. 391 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: That's like a pretty happily ever divorced to be honest, 392 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I mean it wasn't roses for sure, 393 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 1: especially in the beginning, because I didn't want it and 394 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: being such a loyal person, I was not interested in 395 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: ending the family, you know, the family in it. So 396 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: it took a while for me. But now we're we're 397 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: and we're almost done. Our youngest is sixteen, so we 398 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: only really have two more years of co parenting, right, 399 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 1: and we're both kind of like, who there's a light 400 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 1: at the end of the tunnel. Yeah. Yeah. Co parenting 401 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: is definitely a struggle and decisions and opinions on what 402 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 1: you know. It's funny because people think when the kids 403 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: are younger that it's about I'm like, oh my god, 404 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: I can't believe giving up some time and I can't 405 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: believe I could be my kid all the time. And 406 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: the truth is not until they become tweens do you 407 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: realize it's not really about time. It's about decisions over 408 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: health matters and over sports and over and consistency, like 409 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 1: that's the heart was hard hard for for me was 410 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: like I'm their mom all the time, Rye, and when 411 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: when they would go to his house, I would have 412 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: to step back and not have such an opinion or 413 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: such like involvement in their day to day stuff or 414 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: they're more for me their emotional well being because I'm 415 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 1: really into into like that side of right being a parent, 416 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 1: and he's a little bit more on the functional side. Yes, 417 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,919 Speaker 1: So that was really challenging for me. And I mean 418 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: but when they would go whenever they go to their 419 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: dad's house, I'm literally on the phone or on the 420 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: text or constantly in contact with them, so right, it's 421 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 1: like I'm not there. But it was very hard to 422 00:22:56,280 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: adjust to not feeling like I was being a consistent 423 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 1: parent because because I had no choice, like that was 424 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: no I and then things and you see differences when 425 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 1: your kids come back, it's like you got it. It's 426 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: almost like a lack of a better word, like retraining. 427 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: Like even like they'll be tonal differences from someone's house 428 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: to the next, or someone comes back, they will actress sassy. 429 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: You're just like, okay, well that's not going to work here. 430 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: Whatever the matter is, you know, always a little different. 431 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 1: I'm a feeling they're a little sassier when they go 432 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: back to his house, because my house it's all about 433 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 1: like let it, let it fly, like feel your feelings 434 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: and right, you have a lot of fun with each 435 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: other's feelings. So that's funny, um, And what about your 436 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: health and authritis? And it's funny because we were more 437 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: vulnerable as we get older and words I was reading 438 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 1: about your struggle and words like osteopathic authritis make you 439 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: feel like you're older. They make you think about being 440 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: there for your kids, and like they make you just 441 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: feel differently like I have an autoimmune issue and it 442 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: just you know, when you're not at your best, you 443 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 1: just feel that the machine can break down, and it 444 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: makes you feel vulnerable emotionally and physically. So I wonder 445 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: about that part of your life. Yeah, life becomes so 446 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 1: much more valuable when you look at it from that perspective. 447 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 1: I mean from an early age though my dad suffered 448 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: as a start attack when he was thirty seven. So 449 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: since I've been in my thirties, I've been uber just 450 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 1: like responsible about my own health, being my own health advocate, 451 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: and then started with my health, my heart health, and 452 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: I still am a big I work a lot with 453 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: American Heart Association, and I do a lot of talking 454 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: about heart health and especially it's effect on women. So 455 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: that's been really important to me now and as I've 456 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: gotten older, brain health mental health has also been something 457 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: that I've struggled with my entire life. And now that 458 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 1: it's such a big conversation, I'm so happy about that 459 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: and it's able to talk about it more freely and 460 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 1: reach more people. And now also now with arthritis, like 461 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: having you know, ostro arthritis runs in my family. I 462 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: actually have a already have a fake hip. I have 463 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: my hip replaced. Wow, which is significant because God, yeah, 464 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: that like in twenty twenties, so it's a few years ago, right, 465 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: but you know, just being able to talk about stuff 466 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 1: like that and sort of like get rid of the 467 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 1: stigma of like we're all gonna age, We're all going 468 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: bodies are going to stay to break down, we gotta 469 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: go through this together and talk about it. It's not embarrassing. 470 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: It is what it is exactly exactly. And what would 471 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,719 Speaker 1: you say the top three things that are in your 472 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: everyday life for heart health do you sort of abide 473 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: by like? And then brain health? Like, what are tools, 474 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: tips or things that you could say to somebody else 475 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: for heart health? Okay? Number one is well obviously no smoking, 476 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: drinking out all smoke or drink. No dairy. People don't 477 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: really talk about that very often, but I really believe 478 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: that dairy causes inflammation in our bodies. I feel it 479 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: definitely when I eat dairy or when I have eaten dairy. 480 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: We don't I've never given my kids dairy, Like, I 481 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: just don't think it's good for you, Okay, and it 482 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: kind of grosses me out. Activity obviously staying active, exercising, 483 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: even if it's just walking. Like my mom is eighty 484 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: and I'm every day I'm calling her and saying it, 485 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: did you go for your walk today? But it's a 486 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 1: good day. You can go out and put on your 487 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: rain gooat. You can still walk when the rain, when 488 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: it's raining. And knowing, I think, especially knowing your your 489 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: genetic predisisposition to heart disease is really important and keeping 490 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: your BMI your body muscle ratio, your fat ratio to 491 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: your muscle ratio, keeping that in a normal, healthy range. 492 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 1: And I think it's good to work with a doctor 493 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: to know what your BMI should be and just to 494 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: keep it all in check because as we get older, 495 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: we let anything go. It's so much harder to get 496 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: back on the rails once you deviate, you know, once 497 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: you start gaining too much weight or becoming inactive, you know, 498 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: it's really hard to get back. So just don't let 499 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: it get to that point. Yeah, think ahead, beyond the case, 500 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 1: beyond the case, got it? And what about for mental health? 501 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 1: Mental health? Oh my gosh. I'm a believer in therapy. 502 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: Have there have been times when I've been in intensive therapy. 503 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: There have been times when I'm like, right now, I'm 504 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: not really in a daily I mean a weekly therapy 505 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: kind of situation. It's like an as needed thing. I 506 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: think therapy is great. And if you can get therapy 507 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 1: from talking to your friends, that's that's pretty good too. 508 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 1: I take a lot of brain supplements because I work 509 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: with a doctor. His name's doctor Amen, doctor Daniel Aman, 510 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: and he is a leading brain doctor out there, and 511 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: he's really educated me with the fact that much like 512 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: the heart, which can regenerate and kind of heal itself 513 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: if you take care of it, which is amazing to think, 514 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 1: if you've done damage to your heart by smoking or drinking, 515 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: you can fix it by living healthier lifestyle. Same with 516 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 1: the brain. And the brain and the heart are the 517 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 1: most vital things in our bodies, so taking care of 518 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 1: them is just a no brainer. It's a yes brainer, 519 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: a yes, yes. So I take a lot of supplements, 520 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: and I also I just you know, I study Buddhism. 521 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: I'm never been a religious person of any kind, but 522 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: bud Buddhism relates to the most with me, sort of 523 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: resonates the most with me their messages. I do that weakly. 524 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: I take a Dharma class with my sixteen year old daughter, 525 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: and yeah, I've been going to for a long time 526 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: and I started taking her and I think it's made 527 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: an incredible difference in her ability to control her mind, 528 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: which is a really big challenge for people that have 529 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: a lot of chatter going on up there. I mean 530 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: some of us more than others, but everybody's got that 531 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: like constant like noise that we're dealing with, you know, yeah, exactly, 532 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: and I think it's helped her a lot. Do they 533 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: do they watch your episodes? Do they care or is 534 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: that like a total different life? And they it's like 535 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: peripheral for them. They watch it. They watch it back 536 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: with me for my podcast every week after watch it 537 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: back theyd been doing it with me. But they've all 538 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: seen it. They've all seen all of what I like 539 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: about you. They've watched everything that There's My girls are 540 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: so supportive and like they're my biggest fans and they 541 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: will tell you that too, and it's mutual obviously, but yeah, 542 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: I just know that they're you know, they love it 543 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: and they are not embarrassed by me most of the time. 544 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: So that's good. And so you have three daughters, but 545 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: you did not your husband didn't have kids, and you 546 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: didn't have another child. This is your your this is 547 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: your family. This is it all the same father? Yeah, 548 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: got it amazing. Well, it was so amazing to meet 549 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: you and really get to talk to you and learn 550 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: about you. And I've admired you from afar and now 551 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: I admire you from close. So I really appreciate you 552 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: taking the time too. Yes, thank you for having me. 553 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: I'm so happy to finally get to chat me too. 554 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: And Tori did my other show, Rewives, which was she 555 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: was amazing. It was really really fun and ridiculous. I 556 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: don't know if you've ever watched, if you ever want 557 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: to come on, it's yeah, it's very very silly stupid, 558 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: but there's actually a lot of takeaway too, so if 559 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: you ever want to do it, it's fun. I'm gonna 560 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: check it out. Yeah, awesome, all right, thank you so much. 561 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: Of a great day too. She was so nice. How 562 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: nice is she? She deserves everything. She's beautiful and sweet 563 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: and like what a cute blondie, and so honest and calm, 564 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: and I really liked her. She was amazing.