1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Now from our nation's capital. This is Bloomberg Sound On 2 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: what day. It has been tough, but we need to 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: focus on the job in hand. We still have nearly 4 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: six that remained without power. We did what we had 5 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: to do at the exact same time. I would have 6 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: changed anything. Bloomberg Sound on Politics, Policy and perspective from 7 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: DC's top names. I don't believe we'll ever have a 8 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: fair election again. I'll keep your lights on. I'll make 9 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: sure that they keep your kids safe, to cut your 10 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: property taxes, to secure the border, to keep dangerous criminals 11 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:42,959 Speaker 1: behind bars. Bloomberg Sound On with Joe Matthew on Bloomberg Radio. Now, 12 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: it's a sprint to election day. Welcome to the fourth quarter, 13 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 1: in the fastest hour in politics. With Congress in recess, 14 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: it's full time campaigning and debating from not in November, 15 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: and we'll look at the shifting landscape on the trail, 16 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: including some important governor's races to watch ahead with Jessica 17 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: Taylor of the Cook Politics Report. The new Supreme Court 18 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: term begins today with Justice Catangi Brown Jackson's voice added 19 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: to the High Court. And there's already news as the 20 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: Court decides to hear a challenge to Section two thirty 21 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: protections for social media. We'll get into it with Bloomberg 22 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: Supreme Court expert reg store, and our signature panel is 23 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: with us Bloomberg Politics contributors Rick Davis and Jeanie Schanzano. 24 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: Five weeks to go to the mid terms, and things 25 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: ought to be pretty quiet here inside the bubble. Congress 26 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: is gone. You can park almost anywhere. No real traffic 27 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: this morning in d C. Real clear politics. By the way, 28 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: that will change tomorrow. Right people work Tuesday to Thursday, now, 29 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: Real clear politics. Polar Polls shows Republicans up by only 30 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: one percentage point on the generic congressional ballot. Five thirty 31 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: gives Republicans are roughly two and three chances of flipping 32 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: the House, same odds for Democrats holding the Senate. That's 33 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: where we start here. Prepare for a lot of town 34 00:01:55,520 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: halls and at least some debates. As we've been discussing, 35 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: there aren't that many depending on the race. Maybe one, 36 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: maybe two if you're lucky for a big race. To 37 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: closely watch governor's race in Texas. Saw it's one and 38 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,399 Speaker 1: only debate last weekend. Hold your breath now, and they're 39 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: only debate before election day, we go after answers on 40 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,839 Speaker 1: the issues you care about most. Listen to this ship 41 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 1: k X A N in Austin the traumas and how 42 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: far we'll go to protect trying to scare people as 43 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: people watch around the state. He is in South Texas. 44 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: Line from the universe. It's the next level of Rio 45 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: Grand Valley. I mean, it's like music from the movie Psycho. 46 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: I know we all want ratings, but my god, if 47 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: we can calm down a little bit, we might survive 48 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: this election cycle. So the debate ran an hour. It 49 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: covered a lot of ground, including several rounds on gun laws. 50 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: While you would expect that in Texas, betto Abbott and 51 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: as well on reproductive rights. Listen to Republican Governor Greg 52 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: Abbott and Democrat Betto or crystallize the national debate in 53 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: this back. For as as it concerns abortion, let's have 54 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: Bessel's position is the most extreme because he not only 55 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: supports an abortion of a fully developed child to the 56 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: very last second before birth, He's even against providing medical 57 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,679 Speaker 1: care for a baby who survives an abortion. He is 58 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: for unlimited abortion at taxpayer expense. That's not true. It's 59 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: completely alive. Um. I never said that, and no one 60 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: thinks that in the state of Texas. He's saying this 61 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: because he signed the most extreme abortion ban in America, 62 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: no exception for rape, no exception for incest. It begins 63 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: at conception, and it's taking place in the state that 64 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: is at the epicenter of a maternal mortality crisis thanks 65 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: to Greg Abbott, three times as deadly for black women. 66 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: I will fight to make sure that every woman makes 67 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: her own decisions about her own body, her own future, 68 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: and her own health care. That's what most of US 69 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: Republicans and Democrats in one point of clarification seconds, is 70 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: there a limit that you support on women getting an abortion? 71 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: That limit was decided in nineteen seventy three through a 72 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: victory that Jane Rowe and Linda Coffee and Sarah Weddington 73 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: one before an all male United States Supreme Court. Important exchange, 74 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: important follow up there by the moderator. Democrats think this 75 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: is a game changer nationally, of course, and that's where 76 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: we start with Jessica Taylor, Senate and governor's editor at 77 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,799 Speaker 1: the Cook Political Report. This is busy season for Jessica 78 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: and she's back with us on Bloomberg Radio, Jessica, welcome back. 79 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 1: Democrats want to make abortion a major issue nationally. Do 80 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: the nuances change though from state to state as you 81 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: listen to this debate in Texas? Or is that the 82 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: blueprint for both parties that we just heard. It's somewhat 83 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: the blueprint that we've heard along messaging, but I still 84 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: think it is different state by state. I think it 85 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:46,119 Speaker 1: matters more in governor's racist um. But you know, this 86 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: law even a better word to win, which he is 87 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: not favored to do. We have this race rated likely 88 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: Republican UM. You know he would still face pass to 89 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: try to overturn this. And you know where I think 90 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: it has Democrats narrowed the gap overall we but we 91 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 1: still see the economy is still number one. I mean 92 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: abortion is not far back there. But I still think 93 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: the economy and all of these issues are ones that 94 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: are favorable to Republicans and what should historically be a 95 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: favorable Republican year. Now has abortion narrowed that some and 96 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: sort of maybe muted the historical aspects? I think it has, 97 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: But you know, in very very close races, we could 98 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: see this matter. But I never consider Texas a very 99 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: very close race from the beginning, even though Better certainly 100 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: is a national name and certainly rose to rose to 101 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: prominent um in his Senate race and subsequent presidential race. 102 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: That didn't help his any future career he had in 103 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: Texas by by any much. But I think ultimately this 104 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: was he'll rate, he'll he'll raise a lot of money, 105 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: but I just don't see this being competitive. The real 106 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 1: clear average, by the way, has uh the incomic Greg 107 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: Bit up by eight points over Beddo Rourke. And I 108 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: want to mention that Cook moved and this was your 109 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: your column, Jessica moved a couple of important governors races, 110 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: including Michigan and Pennsylvania. Specifically, these two from lean democratic 111 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,239 Speaker 1: too likely Democratic, and I'd like to ask you about 112 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: each of them. Will start with Pennsylvania here, although maybe 113 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: you've got a theme between the two. What was the issue, 114 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: what was the movement in the two races that had 115 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: you moved the dial here? Well, I think there's more 116 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: of a theme between Pennsylvania and Michigan, which really at 117 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: the start of disciple, these were key um Republican pickup opportunities, 118 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: you know, swing states very narrowly decided in the past 119 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: few presidential elections went from voting for Trump in to 120 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: vote in Probiden very narrowly. But it shows us that 121 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: candidates matter. So in Pennsylvania you have duf Mastriano that 122 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: won that primary and up until starting tomorrow, he's never 123 00:06:55,560 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: run a television at and the Democratic incumbent or not 124 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: Demo Democratic nominee rather Josh stein Uh Josh Shapiro, who 125 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: is currently the Attorney general, did not have a primary, 126 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: has completely far out raised him, has been able to 127 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: set the narrative there, and they're all He's He's attracting 128 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: a lot of Republican voters too. So this is just 129 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: not one that we could see as competitive any longer 130 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: when you know you're six months out or not six 131 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: five weeks out, where just five weeks starting tomorrow, um, 132 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: when the nominee hasn't even run a television at It's 133 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: in the same case in Michigan where Tudor Dixon won 134 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: the primary. Now she was probably the best nominee that 135 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: Republicans could have hoped for, but that was because the 136 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: top two, like dr ballot, weren't even on the primary ballot. 137 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: So I'll ask you more about that. When Donald Trump 138 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: held a rally for Republicans in Michigan over the weekend. 139 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: He was in Warren, Michigan. Uh, you may have seen 140 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: this yourself in in in stumping for Tutor Dixon, specifically, 141 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: who is trailing Governor Gretchen Whitner. Whitner by quite a 142 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: bit here. Listened to Tutor Dixon and listen to the 143 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: crowd respond as she spoke at the Trump route. Are 144 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: you excited to see President Donald J. Trump? Would you 145 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: be excited to see Gretchen Whitmer? That's what I hear. 146 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: I hear she's not doing any public events because she's 147 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: afraid of what was that sound again? Yeah, and this 148 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: rolls right into you know it, the lock her up chance. 149 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: Uh and boy, this one on for quite a while. 150 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: But my goodness, the sort of snarky campaign message against 151 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: Governor Whitmer is not working. Jessica, how come Pixon also 152 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 1: has no money? Now, she does have a group backing 153 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: or that helped her when the primary, led by the 154 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 1: family of former Trump Education Secretary Betsy DeVos. But I mean, 155 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 1: Whipmer is just outspending her and running a far better 156 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: ground game. And again, in a state like Michigan that's 157 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: typically this close do you think matter? Now? I'm not 158 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,719 Speaker 1: saying that either Pennsylvania or Michigan is going to be, 159 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: you know, a double digit blowout. I don't think that's 160 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: the case. But four or five points in these states 161 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: state just how closely divided they are. That's the landslide. 162 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: And you see you to your point with with Dixon 163 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: not running as did you see this local Republican Party 164 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: ad that was posted to Facebook. Things gone viral today 165 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 1: on Twitter. It's I mean, it's talk about homegrown. By 166 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: the way, how do you pronounce the county? Is it? 167 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: Is it Gratiot County in UM? But that the county 168 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: Republican Party came up with its own ad. I feel 169 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: irresponsible almost playing this, but it's it's just it's so stark, Jessica. 170 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: Give it a listen. Schools were close for almost two years. 171 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: Poor kids. Speaking of kids, Whimer says she's gonna work 172 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: like how to keep killing babies, and she put COVID 173 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: patients in Graham's nursing home. Graham died alone. Gram died alone. Jessica, 174 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: these are like five bikers or people dressed like bikers, 175 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: I guess volunteers. Are they real people? I'm not sure, 176 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: but the ad people saying I'm voting for chick. What 177 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 1: her name? So they don't even until someone tells them 178 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: the other chick. You're line went out of there for 179 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: a second. Yes, they refer to Tutor Dixon as the 180 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: other chick. And I'm assuming that she's good with us. 181 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: What do you think, Jessica, You're you cut out of 182 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: me there? Yeah, we got ourselves a bad line. But Jessica, 183 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: thank you Senator, Governor's editor for the Cook Political Report. 184 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,839 Speaker 1: I appreciate your being with us here in Bloomberg sound On. 185 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: If you haven't seen this, I mean, it's it's a riot. 186 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: I could keep playing it. And yes, they do refer 187 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 1: to Tutor Dixon as the other chick. Donald Trump at 188 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: that same rally with a message that oughto resonate with 189 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: voters on both side of the aisle, well maybe just Republicans. 190 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: But I'm afraid we have never had we and I 191 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: don't believe I don't believe we'll ever have a fair 192 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: election again. I don't believe it. I'm not sure how 193 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: anyone will react to that when you're trying to get 194 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: voter turnout here five weeks away. Donald Trump in Warren 195 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: a lot more where that came from. That. We're going 196 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: to assemble the panel and walk through here at the beginning. Really, 197 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: I mean, my goodness, this is it. There's no turning 198 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: back here in the general campaign to midterm election night. 199 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: Rick Davis and Jeannie Schanzano are coming in next Bloomberg 200 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: Politics contributors are signature panel, of course, and a bit 201 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: later on this hour, we're gonna turn to what's happening 202 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: in the Supreme Court. A very important day with a 203 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: new term at hand and a new justice on the 204 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: High Court helping to argue all of this out. We're 205 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: gonna talk with Greg Store about that later on here 206 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: on Bloomberg's ound On, I'm Joe Matthew and Washington. Hope 207 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: you had a great weekend. Thanks for being with us, 208 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: and make sure you subscribe to the sound on podcast. 209 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg. You're listening to Bloomberg you sound on 210 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: with Joe Matthew on Bloombird Radio. Apologies to the people 211 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:24,719 Speaker 1: of Grasshitt County in Michigan. That's actually how you say 212 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: a grassh it. I knew Rick was going to correct 213 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 1: me on that, not that he has yet, but I 214 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 1: suspect he has spent political ad dollars there. That's where 215 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: Tutor Dixon is not spending ad dollars. So the County 216 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 1: Republican Party came up with its own ad. They put 217 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 1: it on Facebook. As I mentioned, you get five people 218 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: dressed like bikers. Maybe they are bikers, talking about in 219 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: real people speak, Tutor Dixon campaign. Okay, okay, I'm voting 220 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: for the other chick. What's your name? It's the other chick. 221 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: As we assemble the pall now, Geanie Schanzano is here 222 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: and Rick Davis, aforementioned Bloomberg Politics contributors. Rick, you've probably 223 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 1: been there. Does an ad like this work? Uh No, 224 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: not at all. I mean, if anything, we're probably giving 225 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: it more airtime than it really deserves. And I've been 226 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: guilty of that before. No, no telling what the you know, 227 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: example is at the home State. But I wouldn't be 228 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 1: surprised to find that. Uh, you're gonna start seeing bumper 229 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: stickers that say the other chick rid um. What do 230 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: you make of the lack of spending and and the 231 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: lack of fundraising. Obviously that money, Rick is not coming 232 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: from Donald Trump. How does someone like Tutor Dixon put 233 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: up a real campaign against the incumbent. Yeah, this is 234 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: not unusual. I mean, she was, you know, one of 235 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: these Trump candidates, and she's going full Trump right, Unlike 236 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: some of them, she's not pivoting to one mainstream point 237 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: of view. Uh And and she's dead broke um, you know. 238 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,839 Speaker 1: And that wasn't too different than the Senate Canate in 239 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: North Carolina Ted budd or or even the Senate Canada 240 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: mastro our Masters in Arizona. I mean, if not for 241 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: the Senate Leadership Fund Mitch McConnell's group, most of these 242 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: campaigns in Ohio, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Arizona, they wouldn't have 243 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: any money at all. And and so I just find 244 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: it really entertaining and and bizarre that that McConnell is 245 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: the one that Trump is attacking since Trump's candidates can't 246 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: seem to raise any money. Isn't that the truth? Genie. 247 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk a little bit more about this later, 248 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: this latest attack on McConnell. But it's about a long 249 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: time since Donald Trump has had anything good to say 250 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: about the minority leader in the Senate, the Republican leader, 251 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: since about maybe twenty eighteen. Might be the last time 252 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: he said something nice about Mitch McConnell. But that leaves 253 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: candidates like this one, Tudor Dixon. There are other examples 254 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: that Rick pointed out that were elected as MAGA candidates, 255 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: but they don't have any MAGA money, Genie, they don't. 256 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: And you know, I have to confess Joe and Rick. 257 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: I did not watch the rally my self, but I 258 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: have read about it. And one of the things we 259 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: know about Donald Trump not only doesn't he fund these candidates, 260 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: but when he goes to rally, they said she came 261 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: up on the stage for just a couple of minutes. 262 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: Otherwise he was free forming on his own. And you know, 263 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: the reality is is that they're the Democrats are outspending 264 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: her as of Wednesday, sixteen point five million to nine thousand. 265 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: That's pretty astonishing when you look at that, and you know, 266 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: we have to remember how she got the nomination. The 267 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: two other candidates who were leading were disqualified, so you 268 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: know she would came up from behind. She's a political newcomer. 269 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: She doesn't have any real, you know, any real background 270 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: in this um. She got this nomination sort of by default, 271 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: and she has this one main backer in addition to 272 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is the family of Betsy Divas. But you know, 273 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: they have not been willing, you know, just like Donald Trump. 274 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: They've funded her, but he has not been willing to 275 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: fund her to the extent she needs. And she's in 276 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: you know, a double digit loss here and we don't 277 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: see a lot of Republicans coming to her support. It's 278 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: a very different scenario in the governor's race in Texas, 279 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: which we talked about a bit earlier this hour. Rick 280 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: greg Abbott, of course, the incumbent Bettle or Rourke, the 281 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: insurgent Democrat, although I don't know if we can call 282 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: him that if he if he has another campaign at 283 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: some point here. But interesting in their only debate, as 284 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: they drew lines on a number of issues that were 285 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: pretty predictable from you know, from from gun control to 286 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: reproductive rights. But this is a Republican incumbent here that's 287 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: in a very good standing. Rick, Does Bettle or Rourke 288 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: have a chance? Yeah? I don't think so. I mean, 289 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: I think he's been probably the most grossly overrated candidate 290 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: in America for the last decade. Um, you know, I mean, 291 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: he's really good at losing election statewide and uh, I 292 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: can't wait for, you know, moments after the November election, 293 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: Way loses again by you know, close to double digits, 294 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: that they start talking about him running for president. So, um, 295 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: I don't really get it. I like candidates who win 296 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: kind of a Donald Trump type price. But then again, 297 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: I like, you know, I like some who lose too, 298 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 1: I guess. But but the bottom line is what I 299 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: can't understand about that debate is Bett O'Rourke didn't talk 300 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 1: about Donald Trump at all. He's the only Democrat in 301 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 1: America who can't say the word Donald Trump. And I 302 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: get it from a demographic point of view, but I 303 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: don't know. It's just like malpractice to go through an 304 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 1: entire debate and not tie Abbott to Trump and and 305 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: the rest of the statewide delegation he went after him 306 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 1: for for just about everything else, Genie, and it's certainly 307 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: spent a lot of time on Vivaldi and spent a 308 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: lot of time on the issue of abortion. But Texas 309 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: is its own state. The poll of polls, as I 310 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 1: mentioned it, real clear has battled down by eight. Yeah, 311 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 1: and you know, I to agree with Rick on that. 312 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 1: The two things I think he should have talked about 313 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: our abortion, although Texas has its own history with abortion, 314 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: but more importantly would have been Donald Trump. And what 315 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 1: was stunning to me is the governor he took multiple 316 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 1: swipes at President Biden, which or Rourke then got in 317 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: a position of at the end sort of defending. But 318 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: he never came back and talked about the leading candidate 319 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 1: on the Republican side, who is not Greg Gabbott for 320 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: the presidency at this point, but Donald Trump. He never 321 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 1: talked about it, which was, you know, I think a 322 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: big miss on his part. Otherwise, I think this was 323 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: a miss on, you know, for somebody behind. Rourke really 324 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: had to come out strong and take several swipes. He 325 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: didn't make much of a mark here, and he doesn't 326 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: have another chance. Great analysis from Rick and Jennie. We're 327 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: gonna cut this and look at specific races each day 328 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: as we work our way to November. I'm Joe Matthew. 329 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg. She jumped in less than ten minutes 330 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: into the argument today. You see, the question is which 331 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: wetlands are covered, which I agree with, But I guess 332 00:18:54,960 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: my question is why would Congress draw the coverage line 333 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: between a budding wetlands and neighboring wetlands, Brown Jackson in 334 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: her first day of arguments there on a case involving 335 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 1: wetlands protected by the e p A. This is just 336 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 1: the beginning of, as we've discussed, what could be another 337 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: historic term and joining us men is at a very 338 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: busy day. Bloomberg Supreme Court reporter Greg Store. It's great 339 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: to see Greg. This generates the headline here and in 340 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: really fascinating Jackson dives into the courts ideological split in 341 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 1: first case. What does it tell you about the way 342 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: she composed herself today, Well, she certainly acts like she 343 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: belongs there. She she uh, you know, uh, she was 344 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,959 Speaker 1: the fourth justice to say something. She asked a lot 345 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 1: of questions, She asked follow up questions. She was really 346 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: relentless in her questions. At one point just as Neil Gorsuch, 347 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: one of the Conservatives, asked something and she kind of 348 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: jumped into push back at what he what he asked. So, uh, 349 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: she's certainly, you know, up for the tussle, at least 350 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: based on the first day. You wrote that the topic 351 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: is a comfortable one for her. First argument is a 352 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: long time judge in the Districts of Columbia where the 353 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 1: federal courts, uh, fielded disproportionate number of cases involving agency authority. 354 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: Is that going to change a little bit tomorrow when 355 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: voting rights comes up. We'll see. My guess is she'll 356 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: be fairly active in that too. Um. She of course 357 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: is the first black female male justice. Uh, this may 358 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: be an issue that she has particularly strong feelings about. 359 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: We'll see. Um. And of course it's one of the 360 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: Court's biggest cases, so one would expect that she is 361 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: especially a tune to it. Yeah, what to tell us, Uh, 362 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: what are the contours of the debate that we're gonna 363 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 1: hear tomorrow? Yes, So this is a case out of Alabama, 364 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: and a Alabama has seven congressional districts, it's black population, 365 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: and a lower court said that the Republican drawn map 366 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: that created basically one majority black district was insufficient and that, uh, 367 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 1: they needed to create a second one. And so the 368 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: question is whether for the Supreme Court is whether that 369 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: was actually required under the Voting Rights Act. And the 370 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 1: state of Alabama's making a pretty far reaching argument that 371 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: basically says, look, you're not even supposed to look at race. 372 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: What you do is you look at neutral criteria UM, 373 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: and if you follow those neutral criteria, then you're okay. 374 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: Really important. Uh case here maybe the most important this term, 375 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: according to some, along with the affirmative action case at Harvard. 376 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: Would you agree it's certainly up there there there's a big, 377 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 1: big point in ranking issues. Yeah, there are some really 378 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 1: big ones. There's another voting case. It's a little more complicated, 379 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: having to do with the power of state supreme courts 380 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 1: to um strike down jerrymandered maps as being violative of 381 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: their state constitutions. This is certainly a very big one. 382 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,479 Speaker 1: We're already no matter how this case comes out, we're 383 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 1: going to see a reduction in the number of black 384 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: members of Congress, and potentially this case will spur that 385 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: reduction to be even greater. Fascinating spending time with Bregg 386 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: Store on day one of the new term. I I 387 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: don't know if you saw this coming. Maybe it was 388 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: widely expected, but the Supreme Court will are a challenge 389 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: through Section to thirty protections that I bring it up 390 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: because we hear people lawmakers specifically refer to them all 391 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: the time that Republicans believe leads to censorship, not that 392 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: that's even an applicable term necessarily, but that their voices 393 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 1: are edited out of social media. Essentially that that the 394 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 1: liability these companies carry needs to change. Uh. Did you 395 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 1: see first of all this coming? That wasn't expected they 396 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: would they would tackle this. I wouldn't say it was expected, 397 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: it was certainly a possibility. Um. This is a case 398 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: that has to do with targeted content recommendations made by YouTube. 399 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: It's a terrorism related case and the the argument is 400 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 1: that by recommending, using their algorithms recommending other ices videos, 401 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: they sort of help helped, you know, spur ice this 402 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: on and even though it wasn't directly tied to this 403 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 1: particular terrorist incident, it was the attacks in Paris. Uh. 404 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: They say that the social media companies should be you know, 405 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: open to suit. That's what the family says. And this would, however, 406 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 1: have wide ranging consequences for I hate to say big tech, 407 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: it's really the social media companies we're talking about, as 408 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: you mentioned Google, Facebook, Twitter and so on. Yeah. So 409 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: Section to thirty does have pretty robust protections for being 410 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 1: The word in the in the statute is publisher. So 411 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 1: if all they're doing is publishing a third party's content, 412 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: but the losses, you know that they're they're immune. And 413 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: but the question is, you know, in this case, maybe 414 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: they did something more than that. If they're not just 415 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: kind of this neutral you know, go ahead and published 416 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: what you want, just use our our our code to 417 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 1: do that, whether they can be held responsible for that. 418 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: And then there's also a second case it's very terrorism 419 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: specific that the Court also agreed to hear that alleges 420 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: they didn't do enough to identify and take down social 421 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: media posts by by terrorist groups. I have to ask you, 422 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 1: just because you're with us, Greg, about the leak, uh, 423 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 1: the investigation that's been going on for months and months now. 424 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: When when the when the draft of the Row ruling 425 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 1: was leaked, it was said to really affect the culture 426 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: in the court, that this was really a very difficult time. 427 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: Yet we've still really heard nothing, have we now, We've 428 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: heard nothing about that, no updates. And and remember when 429 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 1: the Chief Justice said there was going to be an investigation, 430 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: he didn't promise he would actually tell us the results 431 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: of it. So, um, you know, publicly we do not 432 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: know anything about So they could be done for all 433 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: you know, they could they could be done. They could 434 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 1: be at a standstill, they could be at the point 435 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 1: where they they you know, are going to be able 436 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: to figure out who it is. We really do not 437 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 1: know as the culture for lack of a better word, 438 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: of the court progressed or is it is it still 439 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 1: just a different place because of this, Well, there are 440 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: certainly signs. It's hard to say exactly what caused it. 441 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: But over the summer, and of course we had this 442 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: huge ruling in the abortion case. But over the summer, 443 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 1: there was a good deal of back and forth among 444 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: the justices, starting with Elena Kagan, one of the liberals 445 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 1: who you know based Pala said that when you have 446 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: justices who uh come in, new justices come along and say, 447 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: I disagree with that that previous decisions, so I'm gonna 448 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: vote to overturn it. That harms the Court's legitimacy. And 449 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,239 Speaker 1: a couple of the conservative justices have pushed back against that, 450 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: and and it's really a kind of a remarkable exchange 451 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: that was going on, and and you know, we'll we'll 452 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: see how that plays out this term. Boy, I guess 453 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 1: we will. Uh that do you have a cut check 454 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 1: on whether the Chief Justice would want this to be 455 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: out there publicly? Would that help to keep it from 456 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: happening again. You know, it's hard to say without really 457 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: knowing who it was. And I guess, you know, if 458 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 1: you could imagine, and I'm purely speculating here, but if 459 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: it were connected to a justice, if we knew that 460 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 1: some justice on either side bore some responsibility, that would 461 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: really change how it would be perceived. If it's one 462 00:25:54,880 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 1: renegade law clerk um perhaps not. Uh, you know, it's 463 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: just awfully hard to say. Fascinating as always, Greg Store, 464 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 1: good luck tomorrow. Great to have you back on with 465 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: us on Bloomberg. Sound On, the best Supreme Court reporter 466 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: in the business. You've heard me say that before. Of 467 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: course he's at Bloomberg, and our panel comes up next 468 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 1: to weigh in on what we just heard. Rick and Genie. 469 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 1: Next on Sound On, I'm Joe Matthew. This is Bloomberg. 470 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 1: You're listening to Bloomberg. Sound On with Joe Matthew on 471 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio. Section to thirty. We hear about it. A 472 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 1: lot goes back to the Communications Decency Act of six 473 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,199 Speaker 1: And while a lot has changed since then, when you 474 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: were going to ask Jeeves, Google wasn't even around yet, right, 475 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: And as Greg story just explained, to us. The Supreme 476 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: Court will decide whether those protections go too far, protecting 477 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: in this case, Google YouTube, Google same company over recommendations 478 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: of terrorist videos. You know how you get the list 479 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: on the side, next video we picked for you. The 480 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: court could rule that platforms are banned from using algorithms 481 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: to recommend content like that. And this is where we 482 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 1: get back to things with our panel. Genie Schanzano and 483 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: Rick Davis Bloomberg Politics contributors are signature panel back here 484 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: on a Monday. Genie, what do you make of this 485 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: decision by the Supreme Court? Would Would that put this 486 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: issue to rest once and for all. I'm assuming because 487 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: it is the Supreme Court, it would, But there could 488 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: be many different ways to interpret these rulings. It could. 489 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: You know, I suspect that Clarence Thomas had a role 490 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 1: here in granting CIRT. He's been sort of outspoken in 491 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 1: terms of his views on this um. We don't know 492 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: who the other three were, obviously, but you know, these 493 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 1: two cases are critically important because they raise a lot 494 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: of questions about how free our speech online will be 495 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: going forward. But I'm not sure this is going to 496 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 1: be the end of the line here. Because if you 497 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 1: just think about one of these cases, this Gonzales case 498 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: versus Google, they're asking whether this uh, you know, limited 499 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: or shield of liability should apply in cases when the 500 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: companies make these targeted recommendations. And so I think it's 501 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: possible that the court will you know, say that that 502 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: it should not apply in those targeted recommendation cases, but 503 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: it still may apply in other cases. So I suspect 504 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: we may see a continuation of you know, cases going 505 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: up to the court of this kind. And you know, 506 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 1: you mentioned Congress really needs to step up here. These 507 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: are not decisions that should be made, in my view, 508 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: with court. They should be made by the people's representatives 509 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: in Congress, who have not stepped up to regulate in 510 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: this space. Despite what appears to be some bipartisan support 511 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: in this area, Rick Republicans have largely have been the 512 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: ones calling for a repeal or reform of somehow of 513 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: Sections to three, equating it to uh to censorship of 514 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: political views and specific conservative views. How about everybody just 515 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: reveal their algorithms. I mean, isn't that a place to start. 516 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: That's what the whistleblowers tend to ask for on Capitol Hill. Yeah, 517 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: I think that that's part of the debate. That's what 518 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: we heard from the Facebook whistle blower earlier last year. 519 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: And and look, I mean, you know the company say, oh, 520 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: that's what's the difference between that and you know the 521 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: Magic's recipe for Coca Cola r It's uh, it's it's 522 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: a debate that's going on. But look at the Section 523 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: two thirties been changed over time. I mean, just a 524 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: couple of years ago, the Congress unanimously almost I mean 525 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: both bipartisan Republicans and Democrats joined together to go after 526 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: sex trafficking that it occurs on the web and and 527 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: and close this loophole there in Section two thirty for that. 528 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: So there's going to be regardless of what happens in 529 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court, there's gonna be continued activity on Capitol 530 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: Hill and in the Biden administration around looking to how 531 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: to reform Section to thirty. And so now we just 532 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: have the pot is right every are you know, uh, 533 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: government entity, Supreme Court, Congress, and the Presidency is all 534 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: looking at the same thing, which indicates to me that 535 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,959 Speaker 1: change is coming. Change is coming. Indeed, Donald Trump is 536 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: asking for change in the midterm elections and as we 537 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: look ahead to twenty four, he's not happy with Mitch McConnell. 538 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: And this is something that Rick brought up earlier. I 539 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 1: want to ask you both about this. Uh, it's not 540 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: a tweet, it's I guess the truth whatever this social 541 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: media post, Donald Trump writes, is McConnell approving all of 542 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: these trillions of dollars worth of Democrats sponsored bills? Of course, 543 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: I'm guessing he's he means the cr to keep the 544 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: government open here without even the slightest bit of negotiation 545 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: because he hates Donald Trump and knows opposed to them, 546 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: so he makes it about himself there. But as you 547 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: go down here, he says, in any event, he has 548 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: a death wish in capital letters, death wish must immediately 549 00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: seek help and advise from his China loving wife, followed 550 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: by a I guess racial epithet here referring to Elaine Chow. 551 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: You know Trump doesn't like Mitch McConney. A guy like 552 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell, who allowed this stuff to happen should be scorn. 553 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: He shouldn't be scored. A couple of weeks ago, at 554 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: a rally, Rick, what does Mitch McConnell do about this 555 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: considering the point you made earlier, he's actually funding several 556 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: of Donald Trump's most prominent endorsed candidates. Yeah, he's been 557 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: a rock and a hard place, right. He's like to 558 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: be he'd like to be a majority leader. So in 559 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: order to be the majority leader, he's got to make 560 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: sure that, you know, Trump candidate in North Carolina, in Ohio, 561 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: and in Pennsylvania all win. And so it's in his 562 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: own self interest. Look, he's always taking a hands off 563 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: approach to Trump, right during the entire presidency when people 564 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: thought it was time for him to speak out and 565 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: set the record straight and you know, or to to 566 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: knock down some of the untruths that are coming out 567 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 1: of the administration, and he kept his own counsel. He 568 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: he let Trump be Trump. And I'm pretty confident that 569 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: that was probably a strategy based on if Trump just 570 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: acts like Trump, he'll go away pretty soon. And and 571 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: he kind of had his way. He's not president anymore, 572 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: but he certainly hasn't gone away. So what what I 573 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: find amazing is there aren't every Republican in the United 574 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: States Senate attacking Donald Trump and saying that he needs 575 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: to issue a retraction to this because this is dangerous, right. 576 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: This is the same thing he did to his own 577 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: vice president through under the bus after January six, and 578 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 1: and and and and basically put him put his vice 579 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: president risk. He's putting these people at risk. We see 580 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: crime against politicians going up. And this is the wrong 581 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: time and the wrong way to make your dislike for 582 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell's legislative strategy known. And and when the Wall 583 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: Street Journal comes out, I'm I'm shocked other Republicans aren't 584 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: following suit Wall Street Journal review and outlook Trump's death 585 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: wish rhetoric. Not very happy with what he said about 586 00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: the GOP Senate leader. On Friday, Genie Rick Scott was 587 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: asked about it. Senator Rick Scott, who's, of course, runs 588 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: the committee tasked with getting Republicans elected. He was on 589 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: CNN's Face the Nation and asked if if he would 590 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: condemn what Donald Trump said, listen to how careful. His 591 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: answer was, as you know, you know, the president likes 592 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: to get people nicknames, so you can ask him how 593 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: he came up with the nickname. I'm sure he has 594 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: a nickname from me. Um. But you know, here's what 595 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: I know. We we got to watch how we spend 596 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 1: our money. We got to stop this inflation. Um. And 597 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,959 Speaker 1: you know, and I don't. I don't condone violence, and 598 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: I hope any no one else can done violence. Nicknames 599 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: are one thing, but this, this is this appears racist. 600 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: Is that okay? It's never ever okay to be a racist? Um. Um, 601 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 1: it's in the you know, but I think you always 602 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: have to be careful. You know, if you're in the public, 603 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: you know how you how you say things. Did he 604 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: not mean Genie? You have to be careful what you 605 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: say about Donald Trump. Oh he did. I wasn't sure 606 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: if those are seagulls or crickets behind it. You could 607 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: hear after Dana Bash asked him that question. Um, you know, 608 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: I have to say. Um, the piece you quoted from 609 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal after that where they said the 610 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: death wish rhetoric. They talked about this as ugly even 611 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: by Trump standards. We've all gotten used to what Donald 612 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: Trump has done. But you know, for Mitch McConnell and 613 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: particularly the Republicans to stay silent on this because they're 614 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 1: worried about alienating their base is deplorable. He should be 615 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 1: called out on this. When you've got to the Wall 616 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: Street Journals point Susan Collins saying she wouldn't be surprised 617 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 1: if members of Congress are shot. I mean, this is 618 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 1: you know, following January six. He should be called out 619 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: on this. The rhetoric is unacceptable, and you know, no 620 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: leader should condone this, and they should say it outright. 621 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,439 Speaker 1: And you know, we're waiting for somebody beyond Liz Chain 622 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: to come forward and to say that this is not acceptable, 623 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: and we haven't heard that yet. And Rick's got just 624 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 1: another example of that. And it doesn't matter what his 625 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: feelings about Mitch McConnell are personally, he should come out 626 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: and say it because the reality is this is unexpected, unacceptable, 627 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,760 Speaker 1: and it's not just Mitch McConnell. It's also it's also 628 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 1: you know, Elaine Chow, who was a respected cabinet member 629 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,839 Speaker 1: of many administrations. The op ed in Rupert Murdoch's Wall 630 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: Street Journal rights quote. Mr Trump's apologists claim he merely 631 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: meant Mr McConnell has a political death wish, but that 632 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: isn't what he wrote. It's all too easy to imagine 633 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: some fanatic taking Mr Trump seriously and literally and attempting 634 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,399 Speaker 1: to kill Mr McConnell. I don't know that we need 635 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,879 Speaker 1: to spell it out quite that directly, but maybe we do, Actually, Rick, 636 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,399 Speaker 1: maybe we do. Maybe that's the point. Yeah, I think 637 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 1: that is the point. I think we've gotten to the 638 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 1: point where we can't assume that people are right minded 639 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 1: on their approach towards politics or politicians and uh. And 640 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 1: it was really disappointing to see Rick Scott uh in 641 00:35:55,480 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: the video well wearing a navy hat, right mean, like, okay, 642 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 1: you know you're wearing the colors of the Navy. That's great. 643 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: I'm glad you served. But you know, the next time 644 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: you have to squirm out of a simple question like this, 645 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,800 Speaker 1: take the hat off, because it's an insult to anybody 646 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,800 Speaker 1: who served in the navy. Uh. You know, if he 647 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 1: wants to wear the hat, then he's got to act 648 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: like someone who can defend the country. And part of 649 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 1: defending the country is pushing back on these kinds of 650 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 1: curious uh claims by Donald Trump. It's just outrageous. So 651 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: you clearly think he should have condemned it. How about Eugenie, 652 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: what should Rick Scott have said? He should unequivocally have 653 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: condemned it and said there is no place in American government, 654 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: in politics for any of our leaders to be using 655 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 1: this rhetoric. And it's unacceptable and Donald Trump should apologize. 656 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: That's what he should have said. He didn't say it, 657 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: in shame on him. One thing that Donald Trump did 658 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: say that he was happy about at the rallies, he's 659 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,399 Speaker 1: got one. Well, it's got at least one real big 660 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 1: fan out there. This week, I would like to thank 661 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: a great woman named Jenny Thomas. You know Jenny Thomas. 662 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 1: She's a great woman, the wife of a great man, 663 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: Justice Clarence Thomas, for her courage and strike. This was 664 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:13,359 Speaker 1: the same day that she testified before the January six committee. Uh. 665 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 1: Is that the last we see her here? Jenny Thomas? Rick, Yeah, 666 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 1: I hope so. Um. Walking out of the the hearing 667 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 1: with the committee and continuing to tell the big lie 668 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: that the election was stolen is just outrageous. Is she 669 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 1: gonna get a talk show, Jennie jeez, I hope not, 670 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: but she might maybe a podcast. That's the spirit, Jennie 671 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 1: Chanzano when Rick Davis our signature panel, great to talk 672 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,799 Speaker 1: to you guys. Hey, we have a podcast sound on. 673 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,399 Speaker 1: Make sure you subscribe, especially if you showed up late. 674 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 1: I'll meet you here tomorrow. This is Bloomberg