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Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live presented by Calida Health. All right,

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Speaker 1: that's a wrap. Mandatory Mini Camp is over. Today was

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Speaker 1: the last day Chris Brown Steve Tasker joined here on

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live. Yes, it's say aloha because that means

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Speaker 1: a lotoha. Yeah, Mandatory Mini Camp just wrapped about twenty

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Speaker 1: minutes ago, and we've got a jam packed show for

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Speaker 1: you today because Brandon Bean just finished a dressing the media.

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Speaker 1: We will re rack his comments for you in just

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Speaker 1: will have head coach Sean McDermott in studio here as

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Speaker 1: he puts a bow on the spring practice sessions and

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Speaker 1: day or two off somewhere in between. Although that's easier

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Speaker 1: said and done. He's the ultimate grinder. But yeah, and

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Speaker 1: Steve and I, you know, got an opportunity to actually

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Speaker 1: watch a full practice because very often practice runs into

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Speaker 2: You know, we have a purpose.

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Speaker 1: We have to exit. Yeah, we have to exit early,

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Speaker 1: and so unfortunately we see less, but today we saw

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Speaker 2: You watched more. I watched some I watched Red Zone

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Speaker 2: and seven on seven and I couldn't take it anymore.

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Speaker 1: It's just like, well, you were hungry because there was long.

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Speaker 2: Was hungry, but also I was bored out of my

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Speaker 1: So they'll be about a five five and a half

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Speaker 1: camp in late July at Saint John Fisher University. As

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Speaker 1: we heard late yesterday, Marcus Harriston did not participate. Maxwell

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Speaker 1: or sorry, Maxwell Harriston did not participate in practice today

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Speaker 1: after he sustained what Brandon Bean labeled a hamstring injury

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Speaker 1: late in Wednesday's practice. He did come out to watch practice.

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Speaker 1: Brandon being characterized it as a tweak and said he'll

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Speaker 1: be fine for training camp, so good news there. And

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Speaker 1: then Daikwon Jones did not practice today either. He was

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Speaker 1: the show here in studio with us. Any initial impressions

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Speaker 1: from your observations today, Steve, just players that may be flatter.

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Speaker 2: Caught your eye or I'll say that, I'll say this

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Speaker 2: very positive vibe on the practice field, as you would

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Speaker 2: But some on both sides of the ball, certainly some

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Speaker 1: A lot of teams celebrations.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they were kind of going crazy with the touchdown celebration.

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Speaker 2: The tight end group in particular had a little ring

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Speaker 1: The tight ends were eating and we should say this

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Speaker 1: It lends itself to offensive success and there was plenty

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Speaker 1: But yeah, Cole Bishop missed minicamp right with an injury.

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Speaker 2: this team believes it. You can tell from mini camp.

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Speaker 2: They got some they have some expectations.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like we know we're rightfully so, and we're going

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Speaker 1: all very encouraging signs. Before we get to Brandon Bean's comments,

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Speaker 1: let's quickly whip around the NFL brought to you by

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Speaker 1: Kalaida Healthy, official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills, and

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Speaker 1: the contract disputes in Cincinnati have hit a new low.

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Speaker 1: Rookie first round picked Shamar Stewart, who was a hold

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Speaker 1: He left Bengals Mini camp this morning as the contract

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Speaker 1: standoff continues. So that is getting uglier by the day

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Speaker 2: And all it takes is it'll get fixed. But all

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Speaker 2: sides know what it'll take to fix it. Which one

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna do? It is another story. Now.

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Speaker 1: Universally, people are perplexed because many believe it doesn't need

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Speaker 2: I'm one of them, and it's a rubber stamp contract.

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Speaker 2: Look at the other guy's contract, transfer the numbers to your,

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Speaker 1: It's not that hard.

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Speaker 2: It is not that and Cincinnati hasn't struggled with this

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Speaker 1: according to the Montgomery County Jail, allegedly for family violence.

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Speaker 1: of fellow rookie quarterback Dylan Gabriel. I don't think that's

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Speaker 1: Sanders continued what has been described as a strong spring,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's going to be intriguing. I heard the

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Speaker 2: not enough information. It's just it's a horrible setup.

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Speaker 1: One other quarterback note to throw into around the NFL,

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Speaker 1: and if you're a Bill's fan, get your vomit bag ready.

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Speaker 1: But the New England Patriots have announced that on August eighth,

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Speaker 1: prior to their preseason game against the Commanders, they will

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Speaker 1: be unveiling their statue Tom Brady, a bronze bronze statue

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Speaker 2: Rightbably twelve feet high, just like you know how tall

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Speaker 1: Oh for his jersey number.

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Speaker 1: Look, I understand why they're doing it, but it doesn't

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Speaker 2: No, it'll be nice if you know they put one

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Speaker 2: When they do it, you know.

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Speaker 1: Where it just give us more, Give a statue, a

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Speaker 2: That's true.

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Speaker 2: We are going to have big buffalos. Yes, that's good. So, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I get it. It's it's a it's a no brainer

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Speaker 1: That's fine. I'm just gonna.

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Speaker 2: Indianapolis did the same thing with Peyton, he did it

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Speaker 1: Uh We will pivot now to general manager Brandon Bean.

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Speaker 1: He addressed the media here right after the final mandatory

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Speaker 1: mini camp practice about twenty minutes ago. We have his

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Speaker 5: He indicated that he will in fact.

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Speaker 7: About date one specifically then is he it's nothing significant,

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Speaker 3: Of front I think Dwayne's come back with a purpose.

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Speaker 3: a little bit more. But he's been here, he has

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Speaker 3: worked his tail off. He is one competitive dude. I

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Speaker 3: know you guys he's a quieter guy, but he is.

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Speaker 3: He's very competitive. He wants to do well and I

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Speaker 3: think he said some good days out here even when

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Speaker 3: y'all haven't been here. But I think you guys have

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Speaker 3: even seen it this week, and it's been fun to

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Speaker 3: see him kind of get that confidence back.

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Speaker 9: It was he said it was a challenge early because

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Speaker 9: he was still rehabing an injury to get in the

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Speaker 9: weight room. As he's kind of gotten to this point,

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Speaker 9: has he kind of been able to ramp things up

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Speaker 9: in there and maybe add some of the armor weight

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Speaker 9: that you.

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Speaker 3: Guys were looking for. Yeah, he's definitely added strength and bulk.

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Speaker 3: And we you know, Will and his staff do a

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Speaker 3: great job of kind of measuring these guys with different things,

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Speaker 3: whether it's forced there, using in the weight room, or

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Speaker 3: just getting on the bodpot itself and seeing what their

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Speaker 3: body composition looks like, body fat, muscle.

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Speaker 4: Mass, all that good stuff.

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Speaker 3: He's he's definitely in a longer position I don't have

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Speaker 3: the metrics or anything I would put out there, but

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Speaker 3: he's definitely in a stronger position than he was probably

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Speaker 3: this time a year ago. So yeah, excited for Dalton

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Speaker 3: and you can see the confidence in the knee and

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Speaker 3: the body out there, you know, as we went along,

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Speaker 3: even from three or four weeks ago. Again, Joevi and Hoy, sorry,

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Speaker 3: you're you're the most patient guy.

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Speaker 10: You watched three day's practice right.

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Speaker 2: And paths or anything. But are there any positions that

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Speaker 2: you're especially excited to hear when you get to Rochester.

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Speaker 4: Have a week?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I mainly spend a lot of time

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Speaker 3: on the skills, because we do. We try and make

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Speaker 3: sure up front, you know, the D line's coming off

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Speaker 3: working their hands, just working their technique. O line get

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Speaker 3: hands on them, but you know, we we don't want

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Speaker 3: them getting near the quarterback or falling all over each other.

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Speaker 3: So most of my time is spent watching the skills

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Speaker 3: right now. So and again when we start camp, we

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Speaker 3: have to kind of ramp up in the same thing.

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Speaker 3: So the first few days will look like this again.

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Speaker 3: But U once we get the pads on, it's definitely

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Speaker 3: gonna be a lot of time at O line D line,

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Speaker 3: those one on one pass rush and then obviously when

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Speaker 3: we're doing inside run periods and you know, blitz periods

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Speaker 3: things like that. I'm gonna, you know, I'll be watching

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Speaker 3: more of of O line D line versus the skills.

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Speaker 2: And Joeby and Koy.

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Speaker 1: You know, you wanted to see as much as you

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Speaker 1: could right now, do you feel like you got what

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Speaker 1: you wanted during these couple of sessions.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think those guys have been working hard.

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Speaker 3: They've both been here the whole time, and we've discussed

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Speaker 3: how we're gonna map out, you know, their their August

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Speaker 3: what that will look like.

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Speaker 4: And then they'll have a plan.

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Speaker 3: We'll you know, we'll together, we'll put our heads together

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Speaker 3: and have an exact plan of what it looks like.

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Speaker 3: I think I think the rule is they have to

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Speaker 3: be out of there for a month and then we

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Speaker 3: can bring them back two weeks prior to you know,

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Speaker 3: for those last two weeks they won't they won't be

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Speaker 3: able to practice, but they can at least get back

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Speaker 3: in the flow in the weight room kind of get

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Speaker 3: back in in the flow of the daily routine. Here

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Speaker 3: at one Bill's Drive, which will be nice and you know,

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Speaker 3: the way the schedule works out, I think we play

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Speaker 3: six and then we have a buy.

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Speaker 4: I'll give them an extra week to.

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Speaker 3: Kind of get themselves in as close to football shape

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Speaker 3: as they can. You can't totally mimic games or practices.

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Speaker 3: But as I thought, that was a little bit of

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Speaker 3: all right, that's not bad. I'm not a huge fan

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Speaker 3: of an early buy, but that was one thing I

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Speaker 3: was like, that worked out pretty good.

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Speaker 4: Can they do during a live can? Can they can

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Speaker 4: be in house? And they can they can do things

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Speaker 4: on their own.

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Speaker 3: There's certain rules, but they can be here and and

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Speaker 3: use our facilities.

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Speaker 4: We can't. We can't have coaches on the field with them.

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Speaker 4: Things like that.

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Speaker 3: It's it falls into some dead period rules. Now we

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Speaker 3: can earlier in the week, but they have to have

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Speaker 3: I believe, a four day off period at that point.

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Speaker 3: They can still be in the facility, use our facilities,

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Speaker 3: they just can't have a coach technically coaching them.

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Speaker 6: What went into the what went into joint practices with

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Speaker 6: the Bears, What did you get out of that last

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Speaker 6: year with the Steelers, and what do you always hope

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Speaker 6: to accomplish for that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think, you know, you want to

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Speaker 3: see your guys against someone else because they kind of

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Speaker 3: know if I'm if I'm a left tackle on them,

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Speaker 3: I'm constantly blocking these couple ends. I know their moves,

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Speaker 3: like give them, give them some some different people to

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Speaker 3: go against, some different schemes, some different defenses. You know,

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Speaker 3: our guys start to know you practice so much even

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Speaker 3: out here, and then you pick up a camp, so

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Speaker 3: just you start to get in, give them something new,

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Speaker 3: and it kind of freshens things up as well. You know,

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Speaker 3: you she get tired of beating on the same people

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Speaker 3: over and over, and that goes for both sides. So

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Speaker 3: I thought last year the one day camp, I really

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Speaker 3: like that because naturally somebody's going to get the better

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Speaker 3: of someone on day one and and I've been in

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Speaker 3: those where day two can be more of a distraction

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Speaker 3: than than productive. And so that's what our plan will be,

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Speaker 3: to go there and have one legit practice with them,

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Speaker 3: very similar schedule to Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: I older too much.

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Speaker 4: This week, a different team, But what if you from turning.

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Speaker 3: Into evank Cole's been very dialed in, very intentional. He's

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Speaker 3: been here a lot, kind of like we talked about

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Speaker 3: with Dalton and some of the other guys and no,

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Speaker 3: it's you know, a little tweak, but we were just

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Speaker 3: again being precautious. I think if it was a regular

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Speaker 3: season he would have been out to fight through it.

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Speaker 3: But he's been very intentional. He's doing well. I think

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Speaker 3: he's made some plays out there. He just needs as

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Speaker 3: many reps as he can. So hopefully once we get

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Speaker 3: to Saint John Fisher, no setbacks and have a full camp.

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Speaker 1: All right. That's General manager Brandon being addressed in the

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Speaker 1: media at the conclusion of mandatory Mini camp today. Just

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Speaker 1: about twenty minutes before we went on the air, he

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Speaker 1: started addressing the media. So happy to be able to

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Speaker 1: bring that to you. We will step aside, take a

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Speaker 1: break here, get you our topic, good discussion when we

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Speaker 1: return here on One Bill's Live, presented by Coli of Health,

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Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, welcome back to One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live. Hopefully enjoyed the comments from General Manager Brandon

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Speaker 1: me Bean who just addressed the media after the final

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Speaker 1: mini camp practice today and with mandatory Mini camp wrapped

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Speaker 1: up and training camp the next thing on the horizon

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Speaker 1: on the Bill's NFL calendar, we are asking you, what

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Speaker 1: are the top two things that must be nailed down

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Speaker 1: on the Bill's depth chart before they reach the regular season?

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Speaker 1: Eight oh threeh five point fifty one eighty eight five

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Speaker 1: fifty two, five fifty those are the numbers to join us.

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Speaker 1: Got open lines for you there, and we are taking

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Speaker 1: your phone calls. We do remind you that second hour

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Speaker 1: of the show we'll have coach McDermott here in studio

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Speaker 1: with us, but in the meantime it's your phone calls

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Speaker 1: at eight oh three oh five fifty one eighty eight

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Speaker 1: five fifty two, five point fifty or on the tweet

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Speaker 1: sheeet at one Bill's Live, what are the top two

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Speaker 1: things that must be nailed down on Buffalo's depth chart?

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Speaker 2: Here, we were out there watching practice and Briannie watched

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Speaker 2: for a lot longer than I was able to. But

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Speaker 2: you see different personnel combinations out there in mini camp

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Speaker 2: and as some of it's probably because of the guys

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Speaker 2: injured and the guy and they want to work some

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Speaker 2: young guys in. It has nothing to do with what

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Speaker 2: anybody has earned to this point, despite you know the

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Speaker 2: fact that you know they're all, Like McDermott said in

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Speaker 2: his press conference, the young guy earns it, he gets it,

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Speaker 2: that kind of thing. None of that's going on. Just shit,

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Speaker 2: nobody's earned anything. They've been here five minutes. So because

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Speaker 2: of the injuries and because of the some guys with

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Speaker 2: some experience, some guys without, you know, they we saw

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Speaker 2: some you know, Dane Jackson's playing a lot, Joe Andreeson's

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Speaker 2: playing a lot. You know, Jalen Virgil's playing a lot.

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Speaker 2: All these guys that during the regular season you don't

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Speaker 2: see too much of, they're all taking reps. Yeah, we'll

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Speaker 2: see this this question, you know, the top two things

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Speaker 2: you gotta be nailed down. There's a lot in.

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Speaker 1: It, because yeah, I don't think it's just a singular

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Speaker 1: position per se.

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Speaker 2: The Bills, like for instant the D line, the Bills

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Speaker 2: rotate eight guys in. They got eight guys active on

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Speaker 2: Game eight, and they all get on the field a.

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Speaker 1: Lot and two that we're expected to be part of

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Speaker 1: the equation are not going to be until you get

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Speaker 1: to the middle of October.

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Speaker 2: Right, So, and ogun joby standing over there as as

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Speaker 2: veteran guys, and what are you gonna do till they

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Speaker 2: get back? How's that gonna work?

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Speaker 1: And how are you working the time on the field

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Speaker 1: in training camp in the preseason to make sure Ogunjoby

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Speaker 1: and Hoyt are acclimated to this defensive system and will

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Speaker 1: be ready when they come back, presumably in week seven.

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Speaker 1: Granted they get a bye week to kind of ramp

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Speaker 1: up because the bye week his week seven, so that's

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Speaker 1: beneficial for them. And then how are you getting ready

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Speaker 1: the people that are supposed to fill the void in

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Speaker 1: their absence for those first six weeks of the regular season?

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Speaker 1: Who are they? How are you managing the roster after

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Speaker 1: those two veterans come back? The question we're gonna ask

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Speaker 1: Sean McDermott in the second hour of the show, because

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Speaker 1: that that is a balancing act, to say the least.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and let alone what you don't know about your corners.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Maxwell Harrison, all right, he's nicked, But when

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Speaker 2: he comes back, how does he stack up against a

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Speaker 2: veteran like Trey White, who is going to kind of

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Speaker 2: slip into a spot like an old glove. Right, he's

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Speaker 2: gonna I mean, it's going to seem easy for him.

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Speaker 1: Right, he spent almost six years, seven years in the system.

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Speaker 2: So it's he's going to slip into his old spot

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Speaker 2: like an old glove when he starts, you know, just

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Speaker 2: recognizing it and it's gonna all come back to him.

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Speaker 2: Max Harrison, though at this point it's a much better athlete,

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Speaker 2: you know, and he's got a different probably a better

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Speaker 2: man instinctive skill set. Right now, how does that work out?

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Speaker 2: You know? And Christian Benfort's not going anywhere, you know.

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Speaker 2: Taron Johnson's getting you know, he's been around for a minute,

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Speaker 2: and we'll see how, you know, how that goes with

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Speaker 2: his backup or if something, for the first time ever

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Speaker 2: he goes down with a hammy, that kind of thing.

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Speaker 2: All of that stuff has got to be I think

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Speaker 2: it's really important Taron Johnson. I mean, he's been a stalwart.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's the guys. He's twenty eight right now,

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Speaker 2: he's eight years in the league. He should be right

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Speaker 2: at the peak. But you gotta have some But if that,

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Speaker 2: if that guy goes down. We've heard Greg Cosel come

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Speaker 2: on our show time and time, and he is the

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Speaker 2: reason they play the entire defensive scheme they play because

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Speaker 2: of his competitiveness and his ability to take on a

653
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Speaker 2: run game in the slot. You got, you gotta have

654
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Speaker 2: somebody you can't. I mean, because that's that's a seismic shift.

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Speaker 2: If he goes down and you can't do everything you

656
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Speaker 2: want to do, you know what I'm.

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Speaker 1: Saying, provided you don't have somebody capable of doing all

658
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Speaker 1: the things that he does as a backup.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that kind of stuff is.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you you handicap it, Like maybe you have a

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Speaker 1: player that's good enough where first and second down we

662
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Speaker 1: can still play our nickel package, but we get the

663
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Speaker 1: third down, maybe we need a guy in there that

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Speaker 1: covers a little bit better, you know, in pass coverage

665
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Speaker 1: or what have you. But you know, I mean not

666
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Speaker 1: so you got a triage the position with a couple

667
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Speaker 1: of guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah, but if you start get into funky

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Speaker 2: down all of a sudden, it's a second and twelve.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's infinitely more difficult. I mean if you don't

671
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Speaker 1: have somebody that can.

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Speaker 2: And also you start to get if you're gonna do

673
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 2: that what you're you're you're just one step closer being

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent predictable. Well, we get into this down

675
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Speaker 2: to day since they're gonna make this switch right here,

676
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,959
Speaker 2: so we're gonna and we get this matchup, we're gonna

677
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Speaker 2: change everything up, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, it's that's a real thing.

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00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's just for Taron Johnson, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But I think if you want to narrow it down

681
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Speaker 1: to even specific positions, I think a lot of people

682
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Speaker 1: would say cornerback two. You know, who has that job

683
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Speaker 1: at the start of the season. Is a Trudevious White

684
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Speaker 1: because he looks like the old Trudeavious White? Is it

685
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Speaker 1: Max Harrison because he's coming on like a freight train

686
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: and looks ready to play? Is it somebody else?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 1: I think that's one that the Bills would prefer to

689
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Speaker 1: have nailed down. And the bigger question after that is

690
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Speaker 1: is that a temporary answer? You know, maybe you want

691
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Speaker 1: Max Harrison to start, but you don't trust that he's

692
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Speaker 1: wholly ready yet for what he's about to experience at

693
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Speaker 1: the NFL level, And so maybe Tray Wall Trey White

694
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Speaker 1: is your starter, but maybe Harriston, you know, kind of

695
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 1: starts to pick things up and by week five or

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Speaker 1: week six, well, now he's ready to start, right like,

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Speaker 1: and then you make another.

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Speaker 2: Change, right that's yeah, But that yeah, it's for a

699
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 2: good reason. That's yeah, that's that's beyond us. At this point.

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Speaker 2: You know, we're asking about you know, on the Bill's

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00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 2: depth chart, that's ongoing player management. You know, we're talking

702
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Speaker 2: about training camp and getting out there and saying, okay,

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Speaker 2: if all things considered and we stay healthy, and we're going,

704
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Speaker 2: who's it going to be? That's and and they have

705
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Speaker 2: and I'll say this too, and they're not. They don't

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Speaker 2: And it's not the coaching staff doesn't know. And it's

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Speaker 2: not a panic situation. He's got to find out. That's

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Speaker 2: what they got to do. And I I think it's

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Speaker 2: interesting that we asked this question. There is no answer

710
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Speaker 2: to it right now. There is absolutely no answer because

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Speaker 2: I mean, there is questions, but there's questions that go

712
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Speaker 2: Sean McDermott has said it, that's one of the reasons

713
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Speaker 2: guys want to play here. We don't know who's gonna be.

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Speaker 2: We don't know who the five starting offensive line are

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Speaker 2: going to be, and they haven't had a different guy

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Speaker 2: in there for two years. Well, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: I think we do know, but we have pretty good idea,

718
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 2: no question, but theoretically we didn't see We didn't see

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Speaker 2: Tyland Grable coming out of nowhere is.

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Speaker 1: Last year, right It wasn't as a starter. But yes,

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Speaker 1: I know what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: So I'm it's this is this is a lot of fun.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 2: It was fun being out there today watching these guys

725
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Speaker 2: run through this at full speed, not no contact, but

726
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Speaker 2: they were they were running around. I think it's fun.

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Speaker 1: I would say, if you had to pick an area

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Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball, it's clearly the

729
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Speaker 1: receiver position. Yes, that you've got to nail down. Are

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Speaker 1: you keeping five? Are you keeping six? How does that

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Speaker 1: impact the other positions on offense? You know, if you

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Speaker 1: keep six, is that eating into your running back group?

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Speaker 1: Are you keeping one less reserve offensive lineman? Because of that?

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Speaker 1: And then more importantly, who are the five or the six?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Because I think we kind of ran through it briefly

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Speaker 1: on an earlier show this spring, and I mean, you

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Speaker 1: can you get to five pretty fast and then you're like,

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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, how many guys do we have fighting

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Speaker 1: over what could amount to just one right spot left

741
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Speaker 1: it receiver? You know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: It's like your wide receivers. Are it starts.

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Speaker 8: Colman yes, Shakir yes, Elijah Moore, well, Joshua Palmer.

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Speaker 1: Palmer's a yes because of the financial investment you pay

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Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel still gets paid eight million a year. Yes, well,

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Speaker 1: you're at four already, Coleman, Palmer, Samuel Shakir, that's four already, Chanolt,

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Speaker 1: and then I don't know if Channault's a given. He's

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Speaker 1: certainly going to help you Amercial team. Josh Palmer, Well

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Speaker 1: I already said, we already said, oh.

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Speaker 2: Did you say him?

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Speaker 1: We said Palmer, Coleman, Shakir, and then Samuel.

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Speaker 2: Those are four, Elijah Moore, I would probably put.

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Speaker 1: More in that category. But now you're five.

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Speaker 2: That's five.

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Speaker 1: That's and then look at the rest of your receivers

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Speaker 1: on your card.

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Speaker 2: There, right, I mean I got it. I mean it's

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Speaker 2: there's thirteen guys in camp. But I mean it's like

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Speaker 2: Steven Gosno maybe a long shot, maybe he is, Christian Wilkerson,

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Speaker 2: long shot, Kelly akar Are, Kim Kerry, Shavers, Cayden Pray.

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Speaker 2: There the draft pick, Channault, Hamler. It's a long list

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Speaker 2: and that they'll probably keep on the roster like seven, right, six?

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Speaker 2: I think six is six, is it?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 2: Unless it's with a sixteen go light with unless you

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Speaker 2: go Channault over Codrington, and you keep an extra wide

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Speaker 2: out yeah, for the return game. And then you're getting

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Speaker 2: into coaches preference.

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Speaker 1: And Toddrington got too much exposure last year as this

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Speaker 1: team's return man. I don't think you can put it

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Speaker 1: on the practice squad and expect him to sit there.

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Speaker 2: Well, not getting a new special teams coordinator who get it,

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Speaker 2: who coached him, and coach Chanult and trusts him.

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Speaker 1: Yep, you know that gives him an edge, you think so,

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's it's tough.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: We do have to take a break here when we

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Speaker 1: are asking you what are the top two things that

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Speaker 1: must be nailed down on the Bill's depth chart? Now

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Speaker 1: with training camp on the horizon and we go to

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Speaker 1: Mark in West Seneca, what's up Mark?

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Speaker 10: Very exactly doing, guys. I'm gonna try I get to

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Speaker 10: these real quick because when you guys talk, I put

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Speaker 10: a laundry list together for me. I haven't hidden when

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Speaker 10: I've called you that my biggest concern for the last

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Speaker 10: two seasons has been the defensive backfield, And as far

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Speaker 10: as your question goes, obviously the number one concern is

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Speaker 10: who's starting at CB two and safety both positions, but

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Speaker 10: I think as equally important is what's going to be

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Speaker 10: the makeup of the backups, which got me to thinking,

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Speaker 10: I know it's early and I don't know how much

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Speaker 10: of the mini camp you guys actually got to see,

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Speaker 10: but has there been any noticeable difference in the makeup

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Speaker 10: of the guys that they have out their youthful exuberance,

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Speaker 10: athleticism or anything along those lines, is anything noticeable comparatively

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Speaker 10: to what we put on the field last year to

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Speaker 10: this year. And that real quick your conversation about the

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Speaker 10: wide receivers, I think a team like the Bills, once

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Speaker 10: you start talking about five six receivers on the roster.

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Speaker 10: As important as it is for these guys to be

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Speaker 10: competing against each other at their position, I think what

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Speaker 10: really comes down to, more often than not, is their

818
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Speaker 10: competition and their value against another position on the roster

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Speaker 10: and forcing the coaches to say, we need to keep

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Speaker 10: this guy even though he might not see the field

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Speaker 10: that much on offense, but he's gonna serve or do

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Speaker 10: other things. And I know that brings in the special

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Speaker 10: teams thing and all that. But still they're in competition

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Speaker 10: across the roster, and I don't know that we talk

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00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 10: about that enough. So that's what I got going on today, guys.

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Speaker 10: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 11: Thanks.

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Speaker 1: It's a valid point. You know, your fifth and sixth

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Speaker 1: receivers are probably getting eight to ten snaps on offense

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Speaker 1: a week if they're even up and active. So if

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Speaker 1: that's the case and they are active and they're only

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Speaker 1: playing eight to ten snaps on offense, they better darn

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00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: well have something to give you on special teams. We've

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Speaker 1: seen Tyrrel Shavers give you something on special teams. In

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Speaker 1: terms of coverage teams, obviously, Leviska Shenault is a receiver

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Speaker 1: that's a return candidate here and a pretty prominent one.

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Speaker 1: And even Jalen Virgil is a guy that has found

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Speaker 1: his way onto the active roster last year after spending

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Speaker 1: most of it on the practice squad and can help

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Speaker 1: you on special teams as well because he runs well.

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Speaker 1: As for the defensive backfield, though, Steve I would say,

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Speaker 1: the most noticeable difference is it has more youth and

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00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: more athleticism, both at corner and at safety.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly, without question, some new face. It's not you

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Speaker 2: know you don't have. Well, Trey White came back.

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Speaker 1: Trey White looks better than he did when he left

847
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Speaker 1: athletically speaking, right, But Max Harson is a bullet train

848
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Speaker 1: out there. Jordan Hancock is a very good athletic specimen

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Speaker 1: at the safety position, and even Dorian Strong is a

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Speaker 1: guy that's caught my eyes at time at times at corner,

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00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: he's long limbed, he and run and he's physical. So

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Speaker 1: I think from the people we anticipate will be starting

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00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: or competing to start at CB two, along with the

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Speaker 1: players behind them, I think they've gotten younger and more athletic,

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Speaker 1: and I think you could say the same thing about safety.

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Speaker 1: We were talking the other day about Bishop and his

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Speaker 1: athletic skill set, and you know, as good a season

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Speaker 1: as Damar had last year in the starting safety role,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna get pushed by Bishop for the starting role,

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00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: right and there's no two ways about it. And then

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Speaker 1: Hancock you have in reserve to determine what his role is.

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Speaker 1: But the athletic skill set is obvious and present.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Hancock could play corner or safety athletically easily because

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00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 2: he's big. And that's that's the difference. You know, you

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Speaker 2: want your safety historically, you want your safety a little

866
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 2: bigger because they do get mixed up in the run

867
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 2: game a lot more. A guy like Brandon Codrington can

868
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 2: play outside corner because he's out on the edge and

869
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 2: he's he's not gonna mix it up with the big guys.

870
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 2: Sauce Gardner for the Jets is a famous for that.

871
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 2: He's a sticky cover corner, but he doesn't tackle much,

872
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 2: so you can so for a guy like Hancock who

873
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 2: can play corner and can't cover man a man. Having

874
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 2: a guy with some size, they gotta they will look

875
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 2: for a reason to get him on the field and

876
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 2: on the roster. You got to figure out where his

877
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 2: best spot is. And that's where you start getting into

878
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 2: the numbers of you know, how many corners, how many safeties?

879
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 2: You got one guy that can play both, well, that's help,

880
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:32,240
Speaker 2: that help, that's helpful.

881
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: That's how cam Lewis is stayed still on.

882
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 2: The roster because of that. So, yeah, there's a lot

883
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 2: of youth. Let's face it, defensively in the back end

884
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 2: and up front, there's a lot of young dudes in there.

885
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: Let's squeeze Bob and corfe you in here before the break.

886
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 1: What's up, Bob?

887
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 11: Hey, guys, how you doing good. I'm I'm looking at safety.

888
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 11: Uh yeah, we need some help there. I'm I'm rooting

889
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 11: for cold Dish up. I'm hearing good things about you

890
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 11: know how he took care of himself in the offseason.

891
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 11: Nice to get a nice tandem in there again. But

892
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 11: the biggest concern was to me last year was the

893
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 11: defensive line, and I think we plugged that pretty well.

894
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 11: You know, we we got some run stuffers in there,

895
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 11: and that's going to free up our ends. And I

896
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 11: think our ends are going to have a blast this

897
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 11: year because of it. And like I said, we are

898
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 11: going to the Bowl this year. That's definite. But you

899
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 11: know that's not my only thing. If this team never

900
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 11: went to a Super Bowl or never even got there

901
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 11: or went and lost, I just love what we put

902
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 11: together here. You know, ninety to ninety five, that's this

903
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 11: kind of team. We didn't have this for twenty five years.

904
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 11: So I'm loving every minute of it. And I think

905
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 11: we I think we're gonna have a real fun time.

906
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 11: And the cool thing is too we are structured for longevity.

907
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 11: This team is going to be around for a long time.

908
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 11: So just kick back and enjoy it because the bulls

909
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 11: will come. You guys, have a great day.

910
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: Thanks man. Thanks Yeah, d Line, You're right. I mean

911
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: free agency and the draft. I mean they hit it

912
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: and hit it hard, and they're gonna have some difficult

913
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 1: decisions to make there, even with the two players that

914
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: are going to be out on suspension for the first six.

915
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 2: Weeks Brandon being got asked a little bit about Dwayne

916
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 2: Carter today and had a few things nice things to

917
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 2: say about him about his flexibility position flex Yeah, and

918
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 2: he's not even one of the new new guys, right.

919
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:39,879
Speaker 2: So it's this defense this year from where it would

920
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:46,800
Speaker 2: have been two years ago. Man oh man, it's vastly different.

921
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 1: Now break time for us here we come back. We're

922
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,280
Speaker 1: going to be joined by head coach Sean mcdermodd here

923
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: in studio. We'll have that conversation for you next here

924
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,399
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925
00:48:56,440 --> 00:49:42,480
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926
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: Calida Health. Our number two here on a Thursday, Chris

927
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Speaker 1: Grassy Tasker Review, and we'll get through our conversation with

928
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: head coach Sean McDermott in just a little bit. But

929
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 1: we are banging around the topic today of which are

930
00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 1: the top two things that you believe need to be

931
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: nailed down on Buffalo's depth chart as we make our

932
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 1: way to training camp. There are some position battles we

933
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: anticipate happening. There are some very very deep position groups

934
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: that need to be ironed out and whittled down quite frankly,

935
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 1: when we get to final cutdown day, which I think

936
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: is August twenty six, if I remember looking at the

937
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: NFL calendar.

938
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 2: It's interesting too because these you think about it, maybe

939
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 2: for the fact, I don't know, we probably had it

940
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 2: at this point, but we used to say, gosh, they

941
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 2: got some quite I hate to lap it. Remember back

942
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 2: in the drought, It's like, I don't know if we

943
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 2: got anybody that can play this. We don't even know

944
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 2: if we had to get who can play the position

945
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,240
Speaker 2: at a pro level at this position or that position

946
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 2: or the now we're talking about, I don't know, man,

947
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 2: These the guys competing for these spots are really good players.

948
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 1: Well, we've said it before, and it's a hard roster

949
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: to make. It's a hard roster to make, but with

950
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 1: a larger practice squad, you can try to hold on

951
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 1: to players that you'd like to either a develop further

952
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: to turn into fifty three man roster players, or be

953
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: hold on to as a stopgap solution in the event

954
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: that injury strikes and you have a rash of injuries

955
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: at a position and you need somebody who knows the

956
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 1: system backwards and forwards has been on board and can

957
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 1: just step into a role and perform for you. But

958
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: as we've seen over the years, players here and there

959
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:30,280
Speaker 1: on Buffalo's practice squad have been poached by other teams

960
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: who need more help on their active roster or may

961
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,959
Speaker 1: not be as deep as Buffalo's roster, and it's hard

962
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: to hold on to some of those guys. So the Bills,

963
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:42,359
Speaker 1: when they make those decisions, it's not just primarily it

964
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: is what is best for our active roster, what is

965
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 1: best for our team and our active roster. But you

966
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,919
Speaker 1: also have to be strategic in saying, look, we can't

967
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 1: keep them on the active roster. We just don't have

968
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 1: enough spots and we need to take care of this

969
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: position group. They have to have a minimum number of

970
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: X and so we can't carry an extra guy at

971
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: this position because of that. But we don't want to

972
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 1: lose this guy. Can we put him on the practice

973
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: squad and know that he'll be safe there.

974
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, and it's a double edged sword in

975
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 2: some respects. You talk about the player development, we talk

976
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 2: about here, talk about it here a lot, and it's

977
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 2: a real thing here in Buffalo. And most teams will

978
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 2: tell you they're gonna they'll keep on there, keep the

979
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 2: kid on the practice squad, because how we think he's

980
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 2: gonna be a really good player. Most teams will put

981
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 2: the kid on the practice squad and and hope that

982
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:35,760
Speaker 2: he develops, because the best development comes from what's inside

983
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 2: the kid. If the guy, if the player says I'm

984
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,240
Speaker 2: gonna get better, I'm gonna work at it, it's gonna

985
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 2: happen eventually. Most teams take that tack. We get the kid,

986
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 2: he's gonna put him over here. We're gonna let him practice,

987
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 2: and we'll see how he got see how he does

988
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 2: the bills. On the other hand, and this is this

989
00:52:55,960 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 2: is where the two edged sword is, Brownie. They get

990
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 2: these guys in here, and the team develops the kid,

991
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 2: and they get the right guy. So the kid wants

992
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 2: to get better and he knows it's important, but he

993
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 2: works at it, and the team supports him. They give

994
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 2: him stuff to do, They give him specific tasks to

995
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 2: me they you know, they work on it. They find

996
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 2: out how he learns and give him the information in

997
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 2: a way that he processes information. The whole thing. The

998
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 2: team busts a gut and invests and they put him

999
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 2: on the practice squad. They give him something. They and

1000
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 2: then you know what, You get a game jersey today,

1001
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 2: you get a play today. All right, you're back on

1002
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 2: the practice card, but you're we're watching you. All of

1003
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 2: that stuff goes into fueling this kid and his development. Well,

1004
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 2: the problem is once you got a coaching staff, and

1005
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 2: this is where the double edged sword is brown, and

1006
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 2: we kind of think about this too much. The coaching

1007
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 2: staff's going, man, I've I've been watching this kid. I've

1008
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:55,879
Speaker 2: been cultivating this kid like a house plant. And now

1009
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 2: look at it. And now you got this draft pick.

1010
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 2: You're gonna throw my kid away because we got a

1011
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 2: better kid. That sometimes happens. We've invested too much in

1012
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 2: player X to let players Z come in and just

1013
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 2: show up and boom. But the Bills have done it.

1014
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 1: That's what Jonathan Yeah, three years here, he was here.

1015
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,399
Speaker 2: It's not here now, Daryl Johnson get they kicked great

1016
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,879
Speaker 2: special teams player defensive and traded him. You got guys

1017
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 2: in it. You've got coaches and support staff, players, development, sports, psychology, strength, conditioning,

1018
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 2: the medical staff they get they all have. They all

1019
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 2: have their hands on these guys developing. And it's hard work.

1020
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 2: And man, how think about how rewarding it is for

1021
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:51,280
Speaker 2: those all these people to look at, you know, Christian

1022
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 2: Benford coming in and doing what he did, Matt Mulano,

1023
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 2: fifth round pick, Tarren Johnson not only making the team

1024
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 2: but developing into a lynch pin. I mean, you got

1025
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 2: a lot. There's this staff and they take a lot

1026
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 2: of pride in that. But every preseason you're looking at this,

1027
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 2: You're like, well, this Tyland Grabel kid, he's pretty good.

1028
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 2: You know somebody who they've been developing as a backup tackle.

1029
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 1: Well, they've been developing Ryan Vandermark, and then they draft

1030
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 1: Tyland Grabile and he's pretty dang good.

1031
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 2: Thanks for stopping by. It's hard to say goodbye to

1032
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 2: guys that the that this whole process of player development

1033
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 2: has invested into these guys. But you know what, we

1034
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 2: got a guy off the street and he's pretty good.

1035
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 2: I'm sorry that that's the double edged sword, so that

1036
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 2: sometimes gets in the way of letting the guy go.

1037
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 1: I should remind everybody too that under NFL rules, NFL

1038
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 1: clubs can pick four practice squad players to protect each

1039
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: week of the regular season. So you can take four

1040
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: players on your practice squad that you deem most vulnerable

1041
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 1: to be poached and protect them and the most valuable

1042
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 1: to you. Well, yes, that's kind of what I meant anyway, right,

1043
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: they can be protected. And also the other part of

1044
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 1: the strategy too, is you can only keep up to

1045
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: six veteran players on your practice squad. The other ten

1046
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:20,959
Speaker 1: have to be rookies or second year players. Everybody else

1047
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,879
Speaker 1: can be three accrued seasons or more.

1048
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 2: But it's only ten. So don't forget if you're a rookie,

1049
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 2: even if you're twenty six years old. Them never played

1050
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 2: in a game. I mean, that's you got to be

1051
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 2: on the field to be considered having a you know

1052
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,879
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, practice squad doesn't cut it, right.

1053
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of strategy in that. On the

1054
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 1: back end of your rosters. Who's going on the practice squad, Okay,

1055
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 1: he'll be one of the four we protect every week

1056
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: so we don't lose them.

1057
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 2: And think you got to think about it too. Guys

1058
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:57,800
Speaker 2: like Brandon Bean have got you know, you spend a

1059
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:02,919
Speaker 2: lot of time combing through thirty one other practice squads. Two. Yes,

1060
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 2: I mean you're looking at those leg one.

1061
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: Yeah that yeah, because in the event you lose somebody

1062
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 1: you know that, but that practice squad player has got

1063
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,240
Speaker 1: to be added to your active roster. That's the difference.

1064
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 8: That's right, Just good, pull him off your practice squad

1065
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 8: and put him on yours. That's on your active that's

1066
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 8: been that's been true. That was true when when I

1067
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 8: got picked up forty years ago. You pick a guy

1068
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 8: up off the waiver wire, you gotta he got to

1069
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 8: suit up for you. Even if you picked him up

1070
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 8: on Friday, he arrived on Saturday and you're playing Sunday.

1071
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 2: He's got to suit up. So that's that's one of

1072
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 2: the chilling That does have a little bit of a

1073
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 2: chilling effect for some team. They would love to get

1074
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 2: the guy, but we don't have room for him on

1075
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 2: our roster right now.

1076
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 1: Right that's to ensure that the move is made out

1077
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 1: of a at a necessity because of a position shortage,

1078
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 1: which is the purest sense of that kind of thing happening. Hey,

1079
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 1: we had three guys go down to receiver this week.

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00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: We don't have anybody on it. We don't have enough

1081
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: guys on the practice squad to feel the void. We

1082
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 1: got to steal somebody else's practice squad receiver that we

1083
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 1: had our eye on put them on our active roster,

1084
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 1: because we need people to line up and run routes

1085
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: this week.

1086
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 2: And if you do that, if that happens in a game,

1087
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 2: you're doing that on like on Monday.

1088
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tuesday at the latest.

1089
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you got to get him in, teach him

1090
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 2: the language to speak. So it's a big job and

1091
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 2: sometimes you got to make those decisions in a matter

1092
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 2: of minutes.

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00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's crack open the tweet sheet to see what

1094
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: you have to say there. Tweet sheet brought to you

1095
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 1: by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company of

1096
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. What are the top two things that

1097
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 1: must be nailed down on the Bills depth chart, Walt says,

1098
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 1: cornerback two and your top three wide outs. So Walt

1099
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 1: is taking the receiver thing from the other end of

1100
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 1: the spectrum. He's working from the top end to determine

1101
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 1: who are your top three guys that are going to

1102
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 1: line up for you the most each and every week.

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00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 2: You figure shakiir is going to be He's won on

1104
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 2: the field, no question. And then yeah, I know why

1105
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 2: it opened, Coleman.

1106
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 1: It might be more based on body type and skill

1107
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 1: set than anything else.

1108
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 2: Right, Coleman. And you know, is it Samuel or Samuel

1109
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 2: or Man?

1110
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 1: Those are probably your top four. I don't know, Yeah,

1111
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 1: but Elijah Moore could work his way into the equation.

1112
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 1: The problem is he's a lot like Shakir and Samuel. Right,

1113
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 1: you can't go it may murfs across the board.

1114
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 2: It may be Palmer and Coleman if it's Shakir, or

1115
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 2: it could be you know, like in the extremes kJ

1116
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 2: Hamler at five nine one seventy eight and Keon Coleman right,

1117
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 2: because he's Folks four two fifteen, right, the opposite.

1118
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 1: And Elijah Moore has been productive this spring. But he's

1119
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 1: got a similar body type and quite frankly, a somewhat

1120
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 1: similar skill set to Shakir and Samuel. He's fast like Samuel,

1121
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 1: shifty like Shakir, and he's about the same.

1122
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 2: Stat And I'll say this too for a long time

1123
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 2: and forty years ago is when you know, teams started

1124
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:10,439
Speaker 2: evolving into that. The Bills did it with Andre Reid

1125
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 2: and James Lofton and Don Beebie, and you know had

1126
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 2: a couple of Hall of Famers, which does help, but

1127
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 2: three wides was the normal became base offense with a

1128
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 2: tight end and a single back. Now we've seen it,

1129
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 2: it's starting to swing back the other way.

1130
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 1: Where personnel is more popular.

1131
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, twelve person with two tight ends is more popular.

1132
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 2: Teams are starting to run the football a little bit

1133
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 2: more often. Now they'll still run it out of three wides.

1134
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 2: But the more physical it gets and the better your

1135
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 2: matchups are, the more extreme you go with your matchup. Right,

1136
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 2: So you put an extra, you put Alec Anderson on

1137
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 2: the field with you know, kin Kaiden Knox and you know,

1138
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 2: let's go. That'll be interesting to see how that evolves.

1139
01:00:56,720 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have to pivot now to our conversation with

1140
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 1: head coach Sean McDermott, who joins us in studio at

1141
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 1: the conclusion of mandatory mini camp. Here is Buffalo's head coach.

1142
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 1: All right, coach, you just put a bow on the

1143
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 1: spring practice late. It's not real football yet, as we know,

1144
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 1: and a lot's got to be decided in the coming

1145
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 1: months with training camp, preseason games. I'm not telling you

1146
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 1: anything you don't know, but what initial conclusions can you

1147
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 1: and your staff make about this group of players as

1148
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 1: you head into the summer and prepare for training camp.

1149
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean I think our young guys are off

1150
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 12: to a good start. I'm excited about the young guys,

1151
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 12: a number of new players on the team as well

1152
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 12: as some veteran players that joined us. And then you

1153
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 12: know the continuity that we do have in the core

1154
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 12: from last season. So it's been fun to watch it

1155
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 12: come together. We still have a lot of work to do,

1156
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 12: and some of it is getting some guys healthy that

1157
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 12: weren't able to that weren't able to participate in the

1158
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 12: in the spring session.

1159
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Speaker 2: Here, you've got a culture built now, it's well established,

1160
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 2: you've got the continuity. As you mentioned, what kind of

1161
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 2: feedback and how rewarding is that feedback that you've got

1162
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 2: that you've got guys that around the league. Word has

1163
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 2: gotten out that you treat your players a certain way,

1164
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 2: you have a certain way of doing things. You get,

1165
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 2: like you said in the in your press conference the

1166
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 2: other day, if a young player, old player, if you

1167
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 2: earn it, you're gonna get it. It sounds simple, it's

1168
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 2: not always easy. How gratifying is to see that not

1169
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 2: only has that worked for you and giving you guys

1170
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 2: great success, but it's also word's gotten out that Buffalo

1171
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 2: is kind of a place you know that they take

1172
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 2: care of playing right.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 12: I mean I remember the first season here, the first combine,

1175
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 12: going into the combine and running into a few call it,

1176
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 12: you know, nflers around the combine and they, you know,

1177
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 12: said hey, well it's going to take more to get

1178
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 12: players or staff to come to Buffalo, and you know

1179
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 12: just kind of, you know, you know, physically agreed with

1180
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 12: them with my head nod, but inside, you know, I

1181
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 12: was thinking, hey, we'll show you. And over the course

1182
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 12: of time, we've shown people and it's a people driven

1183
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 12: business at the end of the day. And I think

1184
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 12: we've built a culture here to your point that this

1185
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 12: is a place where people can come to work, be happy,

1186
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 12: feel good about themselves, and become the best version of themselves.

1187
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 12: And that's just not my doing' that's a whole team

1188
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 12: team's doing. So it's good to be a part of it.

1189
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 1: You have two defensive free agent acquisitions that you know

1190
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 1: you will not have come the regular season for a stretch.

1191
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 1: You know you've got to fill that void to some

1192
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 1: degree with others on the roster. How do you craft

1193
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 1: that plan to make sure Michael Hoyd, Larry Ogunjobi are

1194
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 1: ready when they can come back while also getting people

1195
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 1: to fill the void be just as ready by getting

1196
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 1: enough snaps here through the course of the spring training camp, etc.

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01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's going to be very strategic in our approach, right,

1198
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 12: It's going to have to be because having one, we've

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01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 12: all been around having one, whether it be the start

1200
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 12: of the season, season that comes up. Having two is

1201
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 12: probably unique in the same position group, the same position group.

1202
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 12: So when I what I see out there is one thing,

1203
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 12: and those two are off to a good start, and

1204
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 12: then you have to in your mind picture, okay, subtract

1205
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 12: those two out, and then what are we What are

1206
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 12: we left with? And and and who needs to get

1207
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 12: those reps? And and who needs to develop from a

1208
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 12: young player standpoint as well. So it's almost like almost

1209
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 12: two different depth charts this time of year until we

1210
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 12: get through both of their suspensions.

1211
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:35,919
Speaker 2: We talked to you about this, the culture that you've

1212
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 2: built and has been so successful here, but you're also

1213
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 2: in the football side of it. You guys kind of

1214
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 2: keep your ear to the ground about trends and you

1215
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 2: watch the film what other coaches are doing. You know,

1216
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 2: like last year, you guys ran the football a significantly

1217
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 2: more mouth than a lot of other teams in the league.

1218
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 2: You see Baltimore having these success with Derrick Henry and

1219
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 2: Philly and Saquon and the pingulum swinging back that way.

1220
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 2: What you know, what if you can tell us what

1221
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 2: trends do you are you seeing? Maybe the you're going

1222
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 2: to further evolve this year. What's the game going to

1223
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 2: look like this year that may be a little different

1224
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 2: than we've seen in the past.

1225
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 12: Well, I think it's going to continue. Usually people copy

1226
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 12: what is successful right around the league. So the element

1227
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 12: of the run game, as you mentioned, I think Joe

1228
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 12: Brady Aaron Cromer do a really good job of that

1229
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 12: for us personally, So we're already kind of wearing those

1230
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 12: corduroys if you will, right. But there's other things. I mean,

1231
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 12: more and more every year you're getting these mobile quarterbacks

1232
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 12: that are becoming even more mobile than they were the

1233
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 12: year before. So the scrambling element of the game, extending

1234
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 12: plays is something we have to continue to prepare for

1235
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 12: as we do it just as much as anyone. But

1236
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 12: also our defense has to prepare for as well. And

1237
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 12: now it's not a trend, but the new kickoff rule

1238
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 12: is going to I think change the game a little bit,

1239
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 12: and how the game's played, how the game's managed, So

1240
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 12: that'll be interesting to watch as well.

1241
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 1: Right now, you've got three members of your coaching staff

1242
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 1: working with your defense line. Coach Nielsen and coach Rebervich

1243
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 1: are now working with coach West on a regular basis.

1244
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 1: What conclusion should we draw from seeing that level of

1245
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 1: attention on that position group? And how might those increased

1246
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 1: coaching numbers benefit a group that has a lot of youth.

1247
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 4: In its rights?

1248
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 12: You know, It's it's a little bit tricky, right. It's

1249
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 12: tricky from the standpoint of it's the most important position

1250
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 12: on the defensive or on the defense, so why not

1251
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 12: have as many coaches as possible so that they can

1252
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 12: split up It's the largest number of players on defense

1253
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 12: at one position, you know that, or the defensive backfield,

1254
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 12: so we have enough kind of student to teacher ratio

1255
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 12: and it works. The tricky part about it, though, is

1256
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 12: we all have to have one voice, right, There's got

1257
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 12: to be alignment on what we're teaching, how we want

1258
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 12: to done philosophically, all the way down the line. So

1259
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 12: you have the more teachers, you have, the more voices,

1260
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 12: and so some times three different messages to one player,

1261
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 12: So we have to be very conscious of that. And

1262
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 12: to this point, our coaches have done a really good

1263
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 12: job of Hey, philosophically, this is what we're about, and

1264
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 12: then these are the techniques that we that we believe

1265
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 12: in that fit that philosophy.

1266
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 2: So as you finish up this, you know, this off

1267
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:20,479
Speaker 2: season before training camp kicks off, you've started a team

1268
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 2: build now in your mini camiotas and do all of that.

1269
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 2: How different is it now that you've got guys, you know,

1270
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 2: like Milano and Bernard and Josh and Dion and all

1271
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 2: these guys on both sides of the ball been around

1272
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 2: the block, and Tredavious is back in the building. Very

1273
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 2: different atmosphere with some guys who've seen it work and

1274
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 2: know how it works. Those that really has to help

1275
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 2: your coaching staff because that's I was having the conversation

1276
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 2: with your assistants. I mean, that's your job these days

1277
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:52,919
Speaker 2: because the guy the broster churned so much. You really

1278
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 2: have to be good at getting these guys put their

1279
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 2: arms around each other. And you've done a great job

1280
01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 2: at how much of the players help with that?

1281
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 12: Well, that's huge. Yeah, you know, I can stand in

1282
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 12: front of them every day at the podium, but it's

1283
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 12: it's their team at the end of the days. It's

1284
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 12: them taking ownership of their team, leading by example. And

1285
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 12: I remember when when I first got here and we

1286
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 12: sat down for dinner with some of your teammates and

1287
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:19,679
Speaker 12: listening to some of the attributes that were so key

1288
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 12: and in your good years here in the teams that

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01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 12: you had and Coach Levy and everything. So I've seen

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01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 12: a lot of those same things in our players and

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01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 12: in our teams, and it's been just really interesting to

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01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 12: watch and fun to watch because Buffalo is so unique

1293
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 12: and so special in the mark that you guys made

1294
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:42,840
Speaker 12: on this community, and hopefully we're making a similar mark,

1295
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 12: and it's just been fun to watch. It really has

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01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 12: been fun to watch on fold.

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Speaker 1: Last one here, Coach, because we know we're running out

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01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:51,600
Speaker 1: of time. Coach Tabor is your first special teams coordinator

1299
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 1: on staff with prior NFL experience in that role since

1300
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen here. What kind of edge can his experience

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01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 1: provide on a given game day.

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01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:05,760
Speaker 12: Well, there's no substitute for experience, as they say, and

1303
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 12: whether you're in any line of work or in this

1304
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 12: case a coach, UH and a coach at this level,

1305
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 12: special teams in particular, there are just so many gaps,

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01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 12: so many holes that come up that can kind of

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01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 12: rear their ugly head through the course of a season.

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01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 12: Having a veteran who has experience, Uh, it's good, it

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01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 12: really is, and it's been beneficial for us. Coach Tabes

1310
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:32,759
Speaker 12: is a great teacher. I've never worked directly with him before,

1311
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:35,719
Speaker 12: but been around him around the league and he comes

1312
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 12: well recommended and he's got a great energy about him

1313
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 12: and and a and a good way of teaching. So

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01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 12: it's been fun to be around him. And we all,

1315
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 12: you know, we all learn from each other. So I'm

1316
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 12: learning some things from him and and maybe he's learning

1317
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 12: a couple of things as well on the journey here.

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01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:52,559
Speaker 2: Thanks for spending some time, coach, do.

1319
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 1: Your best to try to get some downtime here before

1320
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 1: we get to training camp, right, try to unplug just

1321
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 1: for half a second.

1322
01:09:57,320 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 12: Yeah we will.

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01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:00,920
Speaker 1: We know, we know you with the grind. Get on

1324
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:03,639
Speaker 1: the baseball and softball circuit a little bit, right, Yeah,

1325
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 1: sit back, relax, I have a drink in your head.

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01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:05,840
Speaker 2: Thanks.

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01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 1: All right, that's coach McDermott joining us. We'll take a

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01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 1: break and be back with more here on One Bills

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Speaker 1: Live present about Collide to Help. It's Buffalo Bill's Breaking

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01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 1: all right back here on One Bill's Live. Chris Brown,

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01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:22,760
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you on a Thursday as mandatory mini

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01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 1: camp is in the books. Heard from both Brandon Bean

1333
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:28,479
Speaker 1: and head coach Sean McDermott on the show today. If

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01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 1: you miss both of those, you can get our show

1335
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 1: on rerack. On the Bill's YouTube channel, you can watch

1336
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:37,880
Speaker 1: us there all over again, or at the bottom of

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01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 1: the page. On Buffalo bills dot Com. You scroll to

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01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:44,559
Speaker 1: the bottom and you can get our audio replay there.

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01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:47,720
Speaker 1: Those are just two places where you can grab it

1340
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 1: if you need to hear those in there entirety. We're

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01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 1: gonna have a little fun here with the little NFL

1342
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 1: True fallse Steve no Way, Yeah, Oh, Let's go oh Way,

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01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 1: and NFL True False presented by Patron Tequila, the official

1344
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:08,400
Speaker 1: tequila of the Buffalo Bills and NFL True False Number

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01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 1: one is as followers, the San Francisco forty nine Ers

1346
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:17,680
Speaker 1: are the best suited worst to first candidate for the

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01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:19,080
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five season.

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01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:26,720
Speaker 2: Ah that's you know, I think. Well, here are the

1349
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:32,559
Speaker 2: fourth places in the it's New England, Cleveland, Tennessee, Vegas,

1350
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:41,679
Speaker 2: and the NFC it's the Giants, Chicago, New Orleans, San Francisco. Yeah,

1351
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:44,680
Speaker 2: I'd have to say San Francisco is because they were

1352
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:46,599
Speaker 2: so injured last year. They got a pretty good They've

1353
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:50,599
Speaker 2: got a good roster, they do. They just extended their quarterback.

1354
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:52,559
Speaker 2: They like him. They've got McCaffrey. If he could play

1355
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 2: given more than just you know whatever, seven games, six games,

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01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:57,519
Speaker 2: that would help.

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01:11:57,920 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:02,839
Speaker 1: I mean, just looking alone at the rest of those teams,

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01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:05,559
Speaker 1: New England's going to be much improved. We don't see

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01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 1: them overtaking the Bills. Cleveland, good luck, Tennessee. They might

1361
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:14,280
Speaker 1: move up in the standings in the AFC South, but

1362
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:18,160
Speaker 1: right Houston's in all likelihood the top dog bear.

1363
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 2: And Tennessee would probably be behind the Niners. I mean

1364
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 2: they got a Houston. I'm okay, Houston's good.

1365
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you have no faith in the AFC South, right,

1366
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:29,720
Speaker 1: I have no faith in Las Vegas has too many

1367
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:31,880
Speaker 1: rungs of the ladder to climb in the AFC West.

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01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:34,760
Speaker 1: Although they might have more than four wins this year,

1369
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:38,760
Speaker 1: the Giants have the hardest schedule in football best of

1370
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 1: luck to them. Chicago I think will be better, but again,

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01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:46,640
Speaker 1: difficult division with green Bay, Detroit, and Minnesota, all of

1372
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 1: who had all of whom had double digit victory seasons

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01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 1: last year.

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01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the same.

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01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 1: Green Bay had eleven wins, Minnesota had fourteen wins, Detroit

1376
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 1: had fifteen wins, And you're Chicago staring up at him

1377
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 1: at five and twelve and their roster is better, new

1378
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:02,559
Speaker 1: head coach one. There might be a few hard lessons there.

1379
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:05,719
Speaker 1: The Saints don't have a quarterback. End of story. Thanks

1380
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 1: for coming in a division where you usually can go

1381
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 1: from worse to first at times if you put it

1382
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 1: together right. But the Saints are a veritable mess right

1383
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 1: now and also have a first year head coach. So

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01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:17,959
Speaker 1: I am going to agree with you and say true.

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01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you look at it. The one you mentioned,

1386
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:24,760
Speaker 2: Chicago they're looking at. Green Bay was third in the

1387
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 2: division with eleven wins. Yeah, and then of course Vegas

1388
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 2: is also four and thirteen. Squad Denver had ten wins playoffs,

1389
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 2: Chargers eleven wins playoffs in Kansas City was a Super

1390
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 2: Bowl participant. I mean, that's they're not going anywhere, even

1391
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:44,719
Speaker 2: though I think Vegas is going to be really intriguing.

1392
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:48,320
Speaker 2: They're gonna be good and better. That's a tough division.

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01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 1: Yeah right now, NFL true false. Number two Eagles running

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01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 1: back sa Kwon Berkley will retire within the next two.

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01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 2: Years, within or after two more seasons. After two more seasons,

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01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 2: let me, uh, maybe I could see the path to that.

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01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:18,400
Speaker 2: I think he'll set his sights on Well, he'll know

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01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:22,639
Speaker 2: he's in Phillies in the NFC, so yeah, he's all right, Yeah,

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01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:24,160
Speaker 2: I would see that. I could see that happening.

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01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're gonna say true.

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01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:34,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I great player obviously, and I don't

1402
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:38,559
Speaker 2: know you know, you know why I hesitate is because

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01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:43,680
Speaker 2: he may have, like his sights set on Hall of

1404
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:50,720
Speaker 2: Fame stuff, you know what I mean? Yes, so he

1405
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 2: may or may not want to, you know, pull up

1406
01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 2: short of certain benchmarks that are statistically needed for his position.

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01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:05,640
Speaker 1: You know, right, he is twenty eight years old, but

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01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 1: I believe he is one of those running back exceptions,

1409
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:18,560
Speaker 1: like an Adrian Peterson, like a Derrick Henry, guys like

1410
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 1: that who are enormously productive. Now he would have to

1411
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:27,320
Speaker 1: be productive at age thirty. That's the conversation we're having

1412
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:29,599
Speaker 1: here right after these next he does.

1413
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 2: He's already in the he's been in the league seven years.

1414
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:36,720
Speaker 1: He doesn't strike me as one of those early retirement.

1415
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 1: Maybe now. Injury can obviously derail anybody's career. He missed

1416
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 1: a year with an acl so if he has another one,

1417
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 1: or you know, God forbid an achilles injury, that could

1418
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:53,400
Speaker 1: change the conversation. But for right now, I am gonna

1419
01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:56,719
Speaker 1: say false. I don't know if he's with the Eagles

1420
01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 1: after the next two years, but I think he's on

1421
01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:05,160
Speaker 1: some rosters somewhere playing right so I think he's gonna

1422
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 1: play beyond his age thirty season. Might not be quite

1423
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:14,840
Speaker 1: the same guy, but he's pretty elite right now, so

1424
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:19,400
Speaker 1: I think he plays his age thirty season, maybe even

1425
01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:22,599
Speaker 1: his age thirty one season. I see him more as

1426
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:27,120
Speaker 1: an exception to the rule than the majority of backs,

1427
01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 1: which seven drops off a cliff after age twenty eight.

1428
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:35,400
Speaker 2: He's got seventy two hundred yards rushing if he gets

1429
01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:37,479
Speaker 2: Do you think if he gets to ten thousand he'll

1430
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:38,200
Speaker 2: call it quits.

1431
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 1: No, because if he wants Hall of Fame, like you're suggesting,

1432
01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 1: you have to have more than twelve. You gotta have

1433
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:48,880
Speaker 1: over twelve thousands, right, well, no, maybe less so this

1434
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:49,519
Speaker 1: day and age.

1435
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:52,960
Speaker 2: That's the thing. You don't have to have anything you should.

1436
01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 1: Terrell Davis didn't, had a very short career. It was

1437
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:57,599
Speaker 1: very prolific.

1438
01:16:57,720 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 2: Well even yeah, I mean even Kail Sayers didn't. I

1439
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 2: mean yeah, but you know that you don't have That's

1440
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:06,640
Speaker 2: just it. There's no set in stone criteria for it.

1441
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:10,120
Speaker 2: So he could and having played for New York, having

1442
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:12,919
Speaker 2: had it go the way it did, the very notable

1443
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:15,960
Speaker 2: and hard knocks ending to what happened to his time

1444
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 2: in New York, that alone will give him some extra

1445
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:22,479
Speaker 2: The New York guys will vote for him so they

1446
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:27,320
Speaker 2: can stick it to the giants further, I mean right,

1447
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 2: perhaps he may just call it a career and then

1448
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:34,639
Speaker 2: retire finger quotes early because they'll have some juice left

1449
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 2: and not have to put up with it. And he's

1450
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:41,839
Speaker 2: going to have made what was it forty million dollars

1451
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:45,639
Speaker 2: over the next two years, twenty million the new extension

1452
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:51,639
Speaker 2: he got, so yeah, i'd see, yeah, yeah. Don't never

1453
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 2: underestimate physical pain and its ability to alter your plans.

1454
01:17:56,439 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 1: And fair enough, we'll agree to disagree. NFL true false

1455
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 1: number two or number three. The Ravens have the NFL's

1456
01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 1: best set of offensive triplets. Henry Jackson. Yeah, and then

1457
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:18,639
Speaker 1: I guess you're counting Zay Flowers as your number one here.

1458
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:23,799
Speaker 2: Maybe if you look down the list, though.

1459
01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:28,840
Speaker 1: Can I go Burrow, Higgins and Chase Do I need

1460
01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 1: to put a running back in there? I would take

1461
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:33,599
Speaker 1: those three over those three you've got.

1462
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:39,560
Speaker 2: There's some big ones out there. Would yeah, could be

1463
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:52,080
Speaker 2: Rice Mahomes, Kelsey, could be uh goff amonra and Gibbs.

1464
01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 1: Gibbs, that's pretty good.

1465
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:58,840
Speaker 2: Could be the guys tell Josha here and Cook Aar

1466
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:01,600
Speaker 2: and far off. That's right, they've got some, They're not

1467
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:04,400
Speaker 2: far off. They scored more points. Let me just say

1468
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:07,400
Speaker 2: it again through the regular season in postseason last year,

1469
01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:09,320
Speaker 2: no team scored more points than the Buffalo Bills.

1470
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 1: And then you've got Hertz, Saquon and AJ Brown.

1471
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll put him in. No, I'm going to say no. Yes,

1472
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:21,080
Speaker 2: I'm saying I like Lamar a lot, and I like

1473
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:25,800
Speaker 2: Dereck Henry too. But there's some there's some trios out there.

1474
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:28,800
Speaker 1: I would take the Burrow Higgins, would you take?

1475
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:32,200
Speaker 2: How about Purdy McCaffrey and Debo.

1476
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 1: Well, Diebos are not non San Francisco auk auk.

1477
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:43,040
Speaker 2: I mean, there's everybody's got one of those trio things. Yeah,

1478
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 2: so I'm gonna say no, Yeah, I mean they're good.

1479
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:46,519
Speaker 2: I love that is great.

1480
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 1: I mean, but but Zay Flowers and Henry's thirty one

1481
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:55,240
Speaker 1: not I mean, he's still going to be productive, don't

1482
01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 1: get me wrong, but I don't think he's running for

1483
01:19:57,120 --> 01:20:05,479
Speaker 1: nineteen hundred again, let's hope he doesn't. Right. Yeah, Okay,

1484
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:10,400
Speaker 1: so that is NFL true false. Presented by Patron Tequila,

1485
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:14,639
Speaker 1: the official tequila of the Buffalo Bills. Want to get

1486
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 1: back to the tweets sheet, as we have been asking

1487
01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:20,040
Speaker 1: you today, what are the top two things that must

1488
01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:23,760
Speaker 1: be nailed down on the Bills depth chart? Mandatory Mini

1489
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 1: camp is over, we carene towards training camp through the

1490
01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 1: month of June and July, and there's things to be

1491
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:38,400
Speaker 1: set in stone here with regard to Buffalo's depth chart.

1492
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:41,200
Speaker 1: What are the top two things you need to be

1493
01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 1: nailed down by the time, you know, training camp's over,

1494
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:49,400
Speaker 1: preseason's over going into the regular season and this is

1495
01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:51,600
Speaker 1: set in stone now and we feel good about it.

1496
01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:53,280
Speaker 2: What is it for you?

1497
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:59,120
Speaker 1: We've heard among the suggestions made defensive line, the wide

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Speaker 1: receiver pecking order from both ends. If the top three

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Speaker 1: in the back end, yes, safety position, cornerback two have

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Speaker 1: been some of the popular choices. What are your top

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01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:13,000
Speaker 1: two things that must be nailed down on the bills

1502
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:15,360
Speaker 1: depth chart? Eight O three zero five to fifty one

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01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:17,680
Speaker 1: eight eight eight five point fifty two five fifty Those

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Speaker 1: are the numbers to join us. We cracked open the

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Speaker 1: tweet sheet a couple of segments ago. We'll return to

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01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:26,880
Speaker 1: it for some more of your suggestions. Where Jacob says

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01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:31,400
Speaker 1: number one punter not sure we have our twenty twenty

1508
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:34,920
Speaker 1: five punter on the roster might be a cutdown day edition.

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01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:40,280
Speaker 1: Number two. Who will be our special team standouts? None

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01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:42,759
Speaker 1: of the top five wide receivers appear to be special

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01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:46,240
Speaker 1: gun special team gunner material. If Tray makes the team

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01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:49,240
Speaker 1: as the number three corner, he doesn't fit special teams

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01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:53,760
Speaker 1: role either. Well, let's let's start with punter Steve. Here's

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01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:57,840
Speaker 1: an exciting conversation. Well, Brad Robbins Jake Kamarta, both have

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01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:01,519
Speaker 1: played in the league. Both you know, have time and

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01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:04,160
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a competition between those two and it's

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01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:06,680
Speaker 1: probably gonna run deep through the through the preseason.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:10,320
Speaker 2: I mean the Bills punter worked worked less than any

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01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:13,280
Speaker 2: other punter in the league last year. I think that

1521
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:14,120
Speaker 2: was two years ago.

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Speaker 1: Last year, I think they were in the top five. Also, Yeah,

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01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:19,960
Speaker 1: so that was thirty five year old Sam Martin.

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01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:23,240
Speaker 2: Right, he's got to be able to hold for the kicker.

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01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:25,800
Speaker 2: So t Bass has got to sign off on it.

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01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:31,280
Speaker 2: I have a hard time seeing the priority as like

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01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:36,720
Speaker 2: the number one thing, not a top tour, yes, but

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01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 2: nevertheless year right, the uh special team standouts, that's I

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01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:44,600
Speaker 2: don't know.

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Speaker 1: You still have Cam Lewis.

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01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:47,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get that.

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01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 1: As a gunner, I think.

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01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:53,640
Speaker 2: The way they run it here and this is not

1534
01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:57,120
Speaker 2: the way it was when I When I was coming up.

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01:22:57,479 --> 01:22:59,200
Speaker 2: You'd have players come to you, Hey, you know you

1536
01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 2: might be able to make it as a special teams guy,

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01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:04,599
Speaker 2: this and that and the other. The coaching staff would

1538
01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:10,679
Speaker 2: never say that to guys, which I found strange in hindsight.

1539
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:14,479
Speaker 2: It should be the coaching staff coming and guy say, listen,

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01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 2: you are not going to make it unless you play

1541
01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:19,320
Speaker 2: special teams. If you want to play pro football, you

1542
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:22,640
Speaker 2: better cover kicks that will light a fire on this

1543
01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 2: under some guys, right, they will start to apply themselves

1544
01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:28,800
Speaker 2: to it and want it. And for me, you get

1545
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:34,120
Speaker 2: athletes out there, dbs, wide receivers, linebackers, tight ends, running backs.

1546
01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:35,960
Speaker 2: You get some athletes out there, and if they turn

1547
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:37,519
Speaker 2: around and they say, all right, I'm gonna do this,

1548
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:40,080
Speaker 2: it doesn't take long before they're really good at it.

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01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:46,560
Speaker 2: So that to me is a player development issue. So

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01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:49,080
Speaker 2: I'm not I don't. You don't have to bring a

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01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:51,960
Speaker 2: guy that you know he's got to play, he's gonna

1552
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:54,760
Speaker 2: play special teams that you can you can create those

1553
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:58,680
Speaker 2: guys if you handle them right. If they're not, if

1554
01:23:58,680 --> 01:23:59,840
Speaker 2: they're here and they don't want to do it, and

1555
01:23:59,880 --> 01:24:02,719
Speaker 2: that you grab the wrong guy. They don't have bills DNA,

1556
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:04,960
Speaker 2: if they're if they don't want to play special teams

1557
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:06,880
Speaker 2: or don't want to contribute in that way, or they

1558
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:10,120
Speaker 2: feel it's a slide or whatever, they don't have the

1559
01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:13,760
Speaker 2: right DNA. So you're right, they're gonna need some guys

1560
01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:16,240
Speaker 2: that are gonna play the bulk of their snaps on

1561
01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:18,800
Speaker 2: special teams. But I think you put that on your

1562
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:22,920
Speaker 2: coaching staff and on the players. Listen, to you, if

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01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:24,639
Speaker 2: you want to be on the team, you gotta play teams.

1564
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:28,599
Speaker 2: You play special teams. So that's a player development issue

1565
01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:30,120
Speaker 2: for me. I don't think you need to go in

1566
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:33,000
Speaker 2: searching for it.

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01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:33,559
Speaker 4: Now.

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01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:36,240
Speaker 2: You can tell the kid listen, your third best corner,

1569
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:39,880
Speaker 2: but that's not good enough. We're gonna release unless you

1570
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:41,519
Speaker 2: want to play Special Team. I you don't start playing

1571
01:24:41,520 --> 01:24:45,000
Speaker 2: special teams or play it better. Those kind of conversations

1572
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:48,800
Speaker 2: happened early on, I think, so that's yeah, special teams

1573
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:53,800
Speaker 2: players to me. I mean, everybody's a Special Teams player.

1574
01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 2: You just got to point them in the right direction.

1575
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:57,679
Speaker 1: Yeah. He also said none of the top five wide

1576
01:24:57,720 --> 01:25:00,960
Speaker 1: receivers appear to be special team gunner material. I think

1577
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:03,280
Speaker 1: Leviskus Channault could be that. I don't know if he's

1578
01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:06,920
Speaker 1: top five, he might be receiver six. But that's the

1579
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:13,040
Speaker 1: guy you would at least try in that role. So yeah,

1580
01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:15,759
Speaker 1: well there are some different roles to be had because

1581
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:18,960
Speaker 1: you lost Mac Collins from your special Teams unit from

1582
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:20,400
Speaker 1: last year, and he was a big part of that.

1583
01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:22,600
Speaker 1: He was one of your gunners. Shavers has done it.

1584
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:25,360
Speaker 1: The receiver at times has played gunner. You know, you

1585
01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:27,800
Speaker 1: have Cam Lewis in that role, who's very good at it,

1586
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 1: and I would imagine there would be others that surface.

1587
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:34,120
Speaker 1: And you know, you had two young linebackers last year

1588
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:37,320
Speaker 1: serve on special teams all season in Joe Andres and

1589
01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:41,160
Speaker 1: Eddi Ulafotio. So there are options there for.

1590
01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 2: A core so to speak.

1591
01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:45,800
Speaker 1: Got to take a break here, one final segment to go,

1592
01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 1: some final thoughts on the tweets seet when we return

1593
01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:49,640
Speaker 1: here on one Bill's Live presented by a lot of

1594
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:50,880
Speaker 1: health It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

1595
01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:08,360
Speaker 4: All right, some.

1596
01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:10,519
Speaker 1: Final thoughts on a tweet sheet about the top two

1597
01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 1: things that you think need to be nailed down on

1598
01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:15,120
Speaker 1: the Bill's depth chart. And Nick on the tweet sheet says,

1599
01:26:15,160 --> 01:26:18,560
Speaker 1: starting safeties and the wide receiver group. You know, I

1600
01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:21,559
Speaker 1: think last year, even though the starting safeties were both

1601
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:28,000
Speaker 1: different obviously with the departures of Hide and Ployer, I

1602
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:29,920
Speaker 1: think for a lot of fans it felt like a

1603
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:33,800
Speaker 1: transition year. Yeah, like, are these the guys for the

1604
01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:38,280
Speaker 1: long haul? We don't know, Maybe maybe not. They drafted Bishop,

1605
01:26:38,439 --> 01:26:39,679
Speaker 1: he's not in the lineup yet.

1606
01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:40,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:42,400
Speaker 2: This will be Rap's third year here. Last year is

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01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:44,320
Speaker 2: his second year. He'd been here for a whole year

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01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:47,479
Speaker 2: watching poorer and hide. You figure, Okay, now it's time

1610
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 2: for him to move in. Damar. He kind of felt

1611
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:53,680
Speaker 2: like at the beginning of the year, damar want it

1612
01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:56,519
Speaker 2: by default because Bishop couldn't play, and.

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01:26:56,560 --> 01:26:57,840
Speaker 1: Then well he missed all the training.

1614
01:26:57,920 --> 01:26:59,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, couldn't get out. Then Bishop just couldn't get on.

1615
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:02,720
Speaker 1: Feel is behind? Yeah, so, and not to mention the

1616
01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:06,960
Speaker 1: fact that Mike Edwards, the veteran free agent signee, got

1617
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:10,240
Speaker 1: hurt in camp also and then also wasn't everybody's cup

1618
01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:10,559
Speaker 1: of tea.

1619
01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:13,040
Speaker 2: He flamed out because he couldn't.

1620
01:27:12,760 --> 01:27:15,200
Speaker 1: Handle not being the starter. He figured, once I got healthy,

1621
01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:16,960
Speaker 1: I'll just be in the starting lineup, and well that's

1622
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:18,720
Speaker 1: not really the way it works here, that's right, And

1623
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:21,960
Speaker 1: then he couldn't handle that, and they said, well ABC later. Yeah, So,

1624
01:27:22,439 --> 01:27:25,519
Speaker 1: the the initial plans and some of the future plans

1625
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:29,519
Speaker 1: for that position kind of blew up before you got

1626
01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:30,440
Speaker 1: out of training.

1627
01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:35,200
Speaker 2: Camp, right, which they may again who knows, but let's

1628
01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:42,320
Speaker 2: hope not. Yeah, the safety crew is is really important.

1629
01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:45,400
Speaker 2: But even McDermott told us, I mean this it all

1630
01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:50,599
Speaker 2: starts up front, all eyes and all most of the attention.

1631
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:53,280
Speaker 2: He's going to be given to the big heavies upfront.

1632
01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:53,960
Speaker 2: How are they doing?

1633
01:27:54,800 --> 01:28:00,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that'll that'll be one to watch. Wide receipt group. Yes,

1634
01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:03,880
Speaker 1: for obvious reasons. I mean, I think most people can

1635
01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:07,160
Speaker 1: pencil in their top four or five. Do they keep six?

1636
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:07,760
Speaker 4: Who is that?

1637
01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:13,840
Speaker 1: So that's the tricky part with the wide receiver group.

1638
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:18,000
Speaker 1: I think most people would list the same top four names,

1639
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:23,799
Speaker 1: and then there's some variation after that. For five, definitely

1640
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:28,040
Speaker 1: for six, everybody's got their favorites. What do they decide

1641
01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:29,040
Speaker 1: on as a final number?

1642
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:30,280
Speaker 2: Is it five?

1643
01:28:30,439 --> 01:28:32,840
Speaker 1: Is it six? If it's six, what other position might

1644
01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:35,599
Speaker 1: you be pulling from and weakening? And can the team

1645
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 1: afford to have that On the offensive side of the ball,

1646
01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:40,559
Speaker 1: it would be presumably.

1647
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:41,120
Speaker 4: So yeah.

1648
01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:44,080
Speaker 2: I mean, if if you're gonna just go off off

1649
01:28:44,120 --> 01:28:49,200
Speaker 2: the top of your head, it's gonna be Coleman, Moore, Palmer,

1650
01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:53,200
Speaker 2: Samuel Shakir and probably channel to have six.

1651
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:56,320
Speaker 1: Guys and we'll see if somebody has something to say

1652
01:28:56,320 --> 01:28:56,960
Speaker 1: about see if.

1653
01:28:56,920 --> 01:28:59,320
Speaker 2: Somebody can weasel their way in and weasel their way

1654
01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:01,000
Speaker 2: in but earn their way onto that roster.

1655
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:04,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, So mandatory mini camp is done. The players are

1656
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:09,880
Speaker 1: gone for five and five weeks and change. We are

1657
01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:12,880
Speaker 1: gone tomorrow, we're not going to be here. We will

1658
01:29:12,920 --> 01:29:17,200
Speaker 1: be enjoying a day, a well deserved day off. Maybe

1659
01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:19,000
Speaker 1: we don't get five and a half weeks, Steve, but.

1660
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:21,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't get We get Fridays. We get Fridays.

1661
01:29:21,680 --> 01:29:24,080
Speaker 2: You know, next couple of Fridays we're taking off.

1662
01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:27,760
Speaker 1: So yeah, so we'll have people to hold the ford here.

1663
01:29:28,320 --> 01:29:32,720
Speaker 1: So we will be back with you on Monday, where

1664
01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:38,000
Speaker 1: we begin cracking into the summer months and we'll have

1665
01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:40,360
Speaker 1: some fun with some fun topics to keep you entertained.

1666
01:29:40,439 --> 01:29:42,800
Speaker 1: So enjoy your weekend, everybody. It'll be a long one

1667
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:44,400
Speaker 1: for us. We'll see you back here on Monday at

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Speaker 1: mon