1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Mister Jim Daily, thank you so much for being on brother. 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 2: It's good to be with you. Granger, what what do you? 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 2: What do you? 4 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 1: What would you say is the main focus of your ministry? 5 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 2: Oh man, good question. You know it's like of your 6 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 2: five children, which one's the most important. But we do 7 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 2: we concentrate on five things every day walking into focus. Evangelism, 8 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 2: discipleship kind of at the base of everything we do. Marriage, parenting, 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 2: advocacy for children, which is ultrasound machines, abortion pill reversal, 10 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 2: working with the pregnancy centers to you know, have greater 11 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 2: and greater impact for that abortion minded woman to hopefully 12 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,919 Speaker 2: choose life. And then finally culture, how to engage the culture. 13 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 2: And man, this is a time we need to engage culture, 14 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 2: that's for sure. 15 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: You're not kidding, you know. I would have accepted the 16 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: answer of family. 17 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 2: That probably sums it up anything. Family is in our wheelhouse. 18 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: I want to tell you something. My family has has 19 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: been influenced encouraged by Focus on the Family since I 20 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: was born. Focus on the Family started in nineteen seventy seven, 21 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: is that right? So that's right, nineteen seven. I was 22 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: born in seventy nine. 23 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 2: Okay, now, you're bragging. 24 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: So my mother has My mother literally raised me according 25 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:29,839 Speaker 1: to focus on the family, which is according to the Bible. Yeah, 26 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: I messaged her this morning and I said, I'm going 27 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: to I'm going to interview the CEO Jim Daily to 28 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: focus on the family. What what what would you say 29 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: to that? What would you say about focus on the family? 30 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,559 Speaker 1: And I'm going to play the just the voice text 31 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: that she said. I don't think I should say it. 32 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: I should just play it. 33 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 3: Okay, I'll try to say this without getting emotional. But 34 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 3: I was actually just thinking about it not too long 35 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 3: ago after he passed away years years, years, and I 36 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 3: would donate to the ministry, and I can remember one 37 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 3: year we sent a huge donation because we had the 38 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 3: funds at the time to do that. And I'd just 39 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 3: been sending like a monthly donation and they called me, 40 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 3: had called me over the years and asked for prayer 41 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 3: request that I might have, and I always said, please 42 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 3: pray for my family, pray for my sons. 43 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: Well, so you could say that my mom gets emotional 44 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 1: like that, but you could say that it was the prayers, 45 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: a focus on the family. I could give that that was. 46 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 2: A mom's heart right there, my man. I mean, who 47 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 2: doesn't want more prayer for their sons and daughters? But 48 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 2: sons for sure. But that's great. That's a mom's heart. 49 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 2: That's what we try to do every day, and I'm 50 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 2: so kind of her to, you know, support focus and 51 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 2: allow us to do the things we do. So say 52 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 2: hi to your mom for me. 53 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: I sure will, and she'll she'll definitely watch this. You 54 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: you mentioned earlier that we need the Gospel needs to 55 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: be infiltrated into the culture more than more than ever. 56 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 2: I think. So, you know, when I'm talking to friends, 57 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 2: we're just lamenting the fact it feels like this can 58 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 2: of divisiveness has opened up. It feels bigger than ever before, 59 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 2: and I think for that reason, most of us feel 60 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 2: like we need to redouble our efforts, do more to 61 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 2: reach out to hurting world, you know, so critical, and 62 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 2: to help them know that we don't hate them. There's 63 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 2: no hate here. There are prescriptions that work that we 64 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 2: believe as Christians as we apply those things in our lives. 65 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 2: There's no formula. People have free will. Adam and Eve 66 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 2: had free will. But we want to make sure people 67 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 2: informed about the reality of Jesus. And I think so 68 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 2: many people. We got a note the other day from 69 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 2: a man on Death Row who's been listening to Adventures 70 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 2: and Odyssey, of all things, our children's radio drama, and 71 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 2: he came to Christ through Adventures in Odyssey. I mean 72 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 2: there's reach, there's a changed heart this man on death Row. 73 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 2: That's remarkable. But that's what the Lord can do. And 74 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 2: you know, there's nobody beyond the reach of God and 75 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 2: that's what's most important to us. 76 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure you have so many of those stories of 77 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: story like that man. 78 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's awesome. I mean that's what life is all about, right, 79 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 2: I mean figuring out where we're at, why we're here, 80 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 2: what's my purpose? Who am I in Christ? What is 81 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 2: this about? And I just think, you know, Focus does 82 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 2: a I think fairly good job of pulling that meaning together. 83 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 2: You know, even with Charlie Kirk, I loved Erica Kirk's 84 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 2: comments at the memorial. You know that his goal was 85 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: to help young men figure it out, to be pursuing 86 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 2: a marriage and having children and investing in those things 87 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 2: that are eternal. We couldn't agree more. And I also 88 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 2: loved her point that if Charlie were to ever run 89 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 2: for president, his number one policy would be to help 90 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 2: the American family. And we get to walk in every 91 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 2: day doing that. It brought tears to my eyes actually 92 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 2: because it is such a humbling thing to be able 93 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 2: to do. 94 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: It certainly is. And so all joking aside of your focus, 95 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: and we know where your focus is. But is there 96 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: anything within the family you mentioned young men are men? 97 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: Is there anything that stands out more than other things? 98 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: As you guys get the staff together and you say, 99 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 1: this is where we're going to really be looking this 100 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 1: year to move the needle. 101 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 2: Well, I think for us, I mean I'm looking at 102 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 2: a data point. It came out a while back, but 103 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 2: twenty five to thirty five year old men. I think 104 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 2: back in and five, it wasn't that long ago. The 105 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 2: number of married men between the ages of twenty five 106 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 2: and thirty five, it was high. It was like seventy 107 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 2: five percent something like that. Now it's down around thirty percent. 108 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 2: And that right there is the indication should be like 109 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 2: a dashboard, you know, and the light the red light's 110 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 2: going off. Engine trouble, Engine trouble, because again, either through fear, 111 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 2: through social pressure, social influence, young people are losing that 112 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 2: aspirational idea that having a family, getting married, having children 113 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 2: is a good thing. I'm telling you, you end up 114 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: sixty sixty five and alone in a big house, with 115 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 2: the end of a big career and lots of money 116 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 2: but nobody to spend it on. That's a sad place. 117 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 2: And I think women right now are finding that. There's articles. 118 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 2: I think sixty Minutes did a special on that. And 119 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,679 Speaker 2: this was a big house, a mansion of a woman 120 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 2: who shows a career over a family, and there were 121 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 2: two or three others with her, if I recall correctly, 122 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 2: and Diana Sawyer is asking them about pursuing the profession 123 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 2: over the family, and they all broke into tears. And 124 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 2: I think, I think we're getting to this inflection point 125 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 2: in the culture where maybe doing what men used to 126 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 2: do isn't what we should be doing, and maybe we 127 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 2: need to think again about what is our role. Where 128 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 2: do we derive our sense of self worth. It's not 129 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 2: under some guy's foot, that's not the design whatsoever. But 130 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 2: it's being happy in marriage and doing this together and 131 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 2: raising a family and the ups and downs of that, 132 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 2: like your mom praying for you boys, which is all 133 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 2: part of it. She's got to be proud of you 134 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 2: now she is. 135 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: What a fascinating thought. I remember recently seeing a documentary 136 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: on Arnold Schwarzenegger, who, you know, at the time from 137 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:04,239 Speaker 1: a fleshly worldview, does it can you be any more manly? 138 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: And Arnold Schwarzenegger, And in the accomplishments that he's had 139 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: not only in the sports world, but but then in 140 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: the movie world and then in politics, you know, he 141 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: just kind of achieved the greatest in all of these things. 142 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: And the documentary ends he's in a home alone in Idaho, 143 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: without family. He has neglected them all and he just has, 144 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: you know, this big house and a few nice cars 145 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 1: and nothing else to speak of. It's I don't think 146 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: there's anything more sad than to look at the trajectory 147 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: of a life that achieves what man thinks is great. 148 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: And and Christ says the opposite. He says, if any 149 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: of you would be the greatest, he would be the 150 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: one who serves Christ being the example of giving his 151 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: life as a ransom for all. 152 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 2: Anyway, now, we often talk about that here at focus. 153 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 2: At the end of your life, who's going to be 154 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 2: around your death bed. It's not going to be your 155 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 2: former employer, the business associates. As you built a business, 156 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 2: there might be a couple that stop by to say goodbye, 157 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 2: but typically it's going to be your family that is 158 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 2: there mourning the loss or the potential loss as you're 159 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 2: in that hospital room. And you know, I think so 160 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 2: often people say, why don't we start with the end 161 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 2: in mind? It'd be great for twenty thirty year olds 162 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 2: to start thinking about that. You know, I think the 163 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 2: power of media, the power of Hollywood and social media, 164 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 2: and it's not just that, but it's again just this 165 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 2: confluence and bombardment of what they think, they being the 166 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 2: world think is important in life. And I'm telling you everybody, 167 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 2: it's usually one hundred and eighty degrees opposite. It's not 168 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 2: the big career that's wonderful, but build it together with someone, 169 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 2: enjoy your life together, get married, have children. I think 170 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 2: my greatest regret we have two boys, twenty five and 171 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 2: twenty three, but I regret not having more children. And 172 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 2: when I tell that to my boys, especially when they 173 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 2: were little, they'd smile and go really, I'd say yes, 174 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 2: because they couldn't believe with all the mayhem they were 175 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 2: causing me. Two boys, by the way, you can tell 176 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 2: your mom, Trent and Troy. But you know, there are 177 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 2: rough spots, but we loved every minute of it, every second. 178 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 2: You know. 179 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: That's interesting because you just said that you're, you know, 180 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: one of the key demographics that you're looking for and 181 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 1: that you're looking to mold in shape happens to also 182 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: be the same demographic as your two boys. 183 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Well, I'm learning a lot about gen Z. 184 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 2: I'm excited. I'm hopeful. You know, a lot of Christian 185 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 2: leaders feel like, well, they don't know the word well 186 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 2: enough and all those things, and that's true. But you 187 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 2: know what, neither did I in my twenties, and I'm 188 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 2: guessing neither did they these older Christians. I mean, it 189 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 2: takes years to really understand the Word of God, and 190 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 2: you don't even get there in your sixties and seventies. 191 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 2: You think you know it, but it just it's layer 192 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 2: upon layer upon layer. But I think I'm just excited 193 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 2: for the next generation. I think they're going to be 194 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 2: living in an exciting time. You're going to be living 195 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 2: in an exciting time. And I think the Lord's reading 196 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 2: the hearts of people. Even through Charlie Kirk's assassination, I 197 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 2: think there's such a contrast between, you know, the rioting 198 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 2: that occurred with George Floyd, the calmness. You know, somebody 199 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 2: said to me, you know they lit buildings on fire 200 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 2: and those who love Charlie Kirk lit candles. Wow. 201 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: Wow, what a thought. What a contrast. 202 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 2: M You know, it really is and hopefully that's the 203 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 2: spirit of God. 204 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: Amen. I feel that same sentiment in so many ways. 205 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: And when someone comes as an elder at our church, 206 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: when I see someone who it's twenty five, twenty six, 207 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 1: a twenty six year old man come in, I want 208 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: to go to him because that's you know, inside. If 209 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: I could pick a demographic that I'm looking for in 210 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: our church, I'm looking for that guy. Maybe he's newly married, 211 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: or maybe he's single, but I want, I want to 212 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: pour into that guy because he's our future. And I 213 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: think that that's that demographic gets lost in all the 214 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: the different media out there that tells us how to 215 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: be a man, or what to be a man, or 216 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: what to look for in a man, and they just 217 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: there's so much to latch onto that when one of 218 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: those men walk in the church, I want to pour 219 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: into him. 220 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 2: No, I agree, I think you got it. And I'm 221 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 2: seeing that and my sons and their friends, and you know, 222 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 2: there is it's weird to think of this, but there 223 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,719 Speaker 2: is like a pendulum effect with the Holy Spirit. I 224 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 2: don't know what the Lord's doing all the time, but 225 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 2: when things tend to get out of kilter and we're worried, 226 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 2: even as Christians, you know, it says fear not, but 227 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 2: it's hard not to fear. And I think we fall 228 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 2: into that trap being human and fallen in nature and 229 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 2: you know, all of those things. But it's like the 230 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 2: Lord's got it, and we've got to build our confidence 231 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 2: in the fact that it seems when things look as 232 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 2: bleak as they can look, with everything that we've experienced 233 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 2: through COVID, all of that stuff, and then somehow the 234 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 2: Lord just turns his hand and the hearts of twenty 235 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 2: somethings are beginning, especially males, are starting to say, what 236 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 2: are we doing? Where am I? Who am I? And 237 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 2: I heard the other day their church attendance is up 238 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 2: twenty percent in that age group twenty to thirty is 239 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 2: up twenty twenty five percent in the last year or two. 240 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 2: That's encouraging. Now on the other side, female participation in 241 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 2: church ages twenty to thirty is down like seventeen percent, 242 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 2: So it's really odd. It's like young men are coming 243 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 2: to church, young women are leaving the church. But you 244 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 2: know what, I think that's temporary. I think if men 245 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 2: lead those twenty somethings begin to lead, women will come 246 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 2: back to church too. 247 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: No, you're you're exactly right. And I would I would 248 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: rather the trend to have that way. 249 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 2: I would. 250 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: I would rather say, bring them men in, let's train 251 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: them up, Let's teach them what it means to be 252 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 1: a man. Let's teach it, teach them what it means 253 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: to have purpose as as an image bearer of God, 254 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: and the women will come and go. I like this place. 255 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: I like this church. You know that that's logic. The 256 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: opposite doesn't work as well. A bunch of women coming 257 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: to church younger and all the men are leaving. That 258 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily make it more attractive for the man to come. 259 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 2: You know, I think we've had a mess, and I 260 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 2: think when men are derailed, the cultures derailed. And not 261 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 2: that we want to not help young women. I mean 262 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 2: that's we got to Yeah, not what we're saying, but 263 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 2: we put the microscope on where young men are at 264 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 2: You're absolutely right. I mean, I think Jordan Peterson has 265 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 2: attacked that very effectively. Yes, when we talk about young 266 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 2: men being privileged in the culture or society, even young 267 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 2: white men, but just young men of every stripe, every color, 268 00:14:58,520 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 2: and you look at it, he goes through a li 269 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 2: need which I can't do. But you know, we have men. 270 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 2: Young men have the highest suicide right, the greatest UH 271 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 2: dropout numbers, those that don't complete college, those that don't 272 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 2: go on for graduate degrees. We are in a precarious 273 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 2: position as twenty something young men. 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So you and I are going 316 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: to think like minded on this question. But but I'll 317 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,959 Speaker 1: tell you what I get quite a bit is a 318 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 1: young couple saying should I have children? 319 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 2: Now? Yes? 320 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: When I say yeah, yes. 321 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 2: I think so. You know, you just you put into 322 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 2: your head and Gene and I went through this. She 323 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 2: was doing a chemistry degree. She's at UC Davis doing prevat. 324 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 2: I was working with International Paper at the time up 325 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 2: in the Bay Area, and you know, we had it 326 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 2: mapped out because we're really smart. We were like twenty six, 327 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 2: twenty seven, we had it mapped out. You know, we're 328 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 2: gonna work hard by the house, get Gene through VET school. 329 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 2: And you know, it didn't happen that way. She didn't 330 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 2: go to VET school. We ended up getting married right 331 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 2: at that point, and life took a different twist. But 332 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 2: you know what's so amazing, we always kind of delayed 333 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 2: that decision because we felt we weren't financially in the 334 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 2: right spot. And when we got pregnant with our first born, 335 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 2: we weren't ready. Still, you're never going to be ready 336 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 2: psychologically for that because you feel like you got to 337 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 2: get all these ducks in a row. I would just say, 338 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 2: jump in, get into the deep end of the pool. 339 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 2: God will take care of it. And I believe that, 340 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 2: And especially for those that have family around them that 341 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 2: can shoulder some of that burden, whatever it might be, 342 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 2: that's even better. But don't be afraid to have children. 343 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 2: Children and are a blessing. It ends up being the 344 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 2: biggest thing in life, right. I remember meeting with presidents 345 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 2: and senators and you know, heads of state, and I'd 346 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 2: come home from that flight from DC and I'd come 347 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 2: into my driveway, get out of my car and my 348 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 2: boys would come out. One would grab one leg, one 349 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 2: the other leg, and I would monster walk into the 350 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 2: front door with them hanging on my leg, and I 351 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 2: just remember thinking to the Lord, Lord, this is so 352 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 2: much better than being in that room of big wigs. 353 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 2: I'd rather be right here with my boys. And I 354 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 2: meant it. 355 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: I'm sure you did amen to that, and you would 356 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: say that even when people say, but the cultures seems 357 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: to be increasingly more and more evil, you would want 358 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: to bring children into a world. 359 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 2: Like that absolutely, because God needs his people too to 360 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 2: be engaged in changing evil into good. You know Romans 361 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 2: eight twenty eight, Make it happen. You know, those things 362 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 2: that are meant for evil, God will use for good. 363 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 2: So I think generally speaking, it's never an excuse. There's 364 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 2: really never an excuse not to have children in my mind. 365 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 2: And people are going to go, what, that guy's crazy, 366 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 2: But it's true. I'm sixty four now with my two 367 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 2: boys in their twenties. That's how late we had our boys. 368 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 2: And you know, if I could go back, that's what 369 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 2: I would do is I'd love to have four or 370 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 2: five kids or more. That'd be great. But I would 371 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 2: encourage young people not to be afraid, especially if you 372 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 2: have again support around you. You've got your in laws 373 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 2: and your mom and dad that's always great, and brothers 374 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 2: and sisters that can help out in a pinch with 375 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 2: babysitting issues or things. They're real practical stuff. But at 376 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 2: the end of your life, going all the way back 377 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 2: to that comment, that's who's going to be around your 378 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 2: bedside saying I love your dad. 379 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 1: And man, you know, people will often meditate on esther 380 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: for this, the famous passage of who knows if God 381 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: had you for such a time as this? 382 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, who knows? But you know, that's what 383 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 2: really grieves my heart About the issue of abortion, which 384 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 2: my mom considered aborting me. My dad talked her out 385 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 2: of it. It was legal. I was born in sixty one, 386 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 2: but abortion. My mom was forty two when she had me, 387 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 2: and for any woman over forty in California, where I 388 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 2: was born, a woman could choose an abortion just for 389 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 2: medical reasons and they would do it. People don't remember that. 390 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 2: And my dad was the one who talked my mom 391 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 2: out of aborting me, My alcoholic father and they ended 392 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 2: up divorcing when I was five and I had a 393 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 2: lot of headwinds in this life. My mom died at nine, 394 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 2: my dad at eleven. But I think for people that 395 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 2: support abortion, they would look at my life and say, 396 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 2: you should have never been born, Your mom should have 397 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 2: aborted you. This poor white family and southern cow who 398 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 2: has the right to say that to anybody? And from 399 00:21:55,840 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 2: my perspective being from a poor family, the fifth born 400 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 2: to a forty two year old mom, you know, yeah, 401 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 2: look what the Lord has done. And I think every 402 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 2: child should have chance. It shouldn't be just to determined 403 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 2: on the whim of a woman or a man pressuring 404 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 2: a woman to say we we can't do this, get 405 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 2: an abortion. We had a Super Bowl ad with Tim 406 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 2: Tebow in twenty ten, and you know, our hope was 407 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 2: just that people would think of life. And so he 408 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 2: had a you know, Pam was pregnant with Tim, his mom, Pam, 409 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 2: and it was diagnosed as a tumor. His his body 410 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 2: and her body is diagnosed as a tumor, and you know, 411 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 2: he's not going to be your baby's not going to 412 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 2: be healthy. He's going to have all these problems. Tim 413 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 2: Tebow probably one of the strongest quarterbacks who ever played 414 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 2: the game, and you know it just we did that 415 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 2: Super Bowl ad and a woman who was being told 416 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 2: by her boyfriend she was pregnant while she's watching the 417 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 2: Super Bowl. You know, you got to get an abortion 418 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 2: or I'm going to kill myself. Think of a woman 419 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 2: in that position. And she saw the ad, went to 420 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 2: the website, watched it over and over again, finally contacted us. 421 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 2: We got her connected to a pregnancy resource center where 422 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 2: she could go. She had the baby, Avida. We know 423 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 2: we're here at Focus on the family's baby Avida. The 424 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 2: three point seven million dollars Super Bowl ad saved your life. 425 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 2: You know, it's just awesome. We had her, We had 426 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 2: the mom and her on stage and brought Pam and 427 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 2: Tim Tebow out. Neither knew the other was going to 428 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 2: be there, instant friendship between the mom and Pam Tebow 429 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 2: and you know, just an amazing, amazing night out in 430 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 2: California with you know, focused supporters watching and little Avida, 431 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 2: who then at that point I think was thirteen, Wow, 432 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 2: and just got loved on by people. That's life. That's 433 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 2: what we're talking about. Give that child a chance, don't 434 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 2: snuff he or hers life out before they even have 435 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,719 Speaker 2: a chance to beat the odds like I beat the odds. 436 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,199 Speaker 2: That's not for others to decide. That's for that person 437 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 2: and for God Almighty to decide how their life is 438 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 2: going to unfold. 439 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 1: So you mentioned that this woman reached out to Focus 440 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 1: on the Family. Let's give me the ways that people 441 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: could reach out or the ways to find you, the 442 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: ways to listen on the radio or yeah man podcasts. 443 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 2: If you have a smartphone, you can download the Focus 444 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 2: on the Family Broadcast app. Get access to everything basically 445 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 2: audio that we do, which is the broadcast, the podcast. 446 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 2: We have marriage podcasts, parenting podcasts. 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Focus on the Family dot Com 456 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 2: doesn't get much easier, and there's so much free stuff here. 457 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 2: That's what we just want to encourage families to do well, marriages, 458 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 2: to hold together, push through the tough times, love the kids, 459 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 2: raise the kids in a tender, loving environment. Truth and 460 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 2: love and again, all predictive things, not guarantees their formulas. 461 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,199 Speaker 2: But we think you'll have a predictably good outcome if 462 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 2: you raise kids and marry each other and love each 463 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 2: other the way the Bible says too, in. 464 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: An indirect way, through the Lord. I was raised through 465 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 1: focus on the family because my mom did just those things. 466 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: She got the newsletters, she got the phone calls. She like, 467 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 1: she said in the message, she was actually shocked that 468 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: they would continue to reach out to her to say, 469 00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: how could we pray for your family? 470 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 2: You know, in that context so many times we call 471 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 2: it the DR, the donor relationship area and the DR team. 472 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 2: As they do those outbound calls, you'd be surprised and 473 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 2: how often they call to say, hey, we're just calling 474 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 2: to say thanks for your gift, and how can we 475 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 2: pray for you? And people said, I just had a 476 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 2: tragedy this morning, I lost my husband. I'm telling you guys, 477 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 2: I mean, it's amazing how often they're calling at exactly 478 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 2: the right time when someone is in peril. There's something 479 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 2: going on in their life. That is tough, and we're 480 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 2: blessed to do it. I mean, that's the way it 481 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 2: should work. And of course these people are putting the 482 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,719 Speaker 2: fuel into the engine here at Focus on the Family 483 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 2: to make it all happen. Last year, we had two 484 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 2: hundred and ninety two thousand people except Christ through Focus 485 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 2: on the Family, and I'm just so blessed by that. 486 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 2: We had something like one hundred and forty thousand marriages 487 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,439 Speaker 2: helped through a crisis. We had one hundred and sixty 488 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 2: thousand parents helped through a So we're swinging away as 489 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 2: hard and fast as we can to help marriages hold 490 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 2: together and help families do well. Of course, the motto 491 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,360 Speaker 2: here is, you know, to help families thrive in Christ. 492 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 2: Doesn't get any better than that. 493 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 1: No, No, amen, mister Daily, Thank you brother for the 494 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: work you've done for many years through Focus on the 495 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 1: Family and all your staff and team there. It's an 496 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 1: honor to have this conversation with you. 497 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 2: Granger, Thank you and give your mom a big hug. 498 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: Sure well, brother, thank you, bye bye. Thank you so 499 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: much for hanging out with me on this episode of 500 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: the Grangersmith podcast. I appreciate you being here. 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