1 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Saber production of iHeartRadio. I'm Annie Reese. 2 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 2: And I'm Lauren Vogelbaum, and today we have an episode, 3 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 2: a classic episode for you about peas. 4 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yes. Was there any particular reason that this 5 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: was on your mind? To bring back Lauren? Uh? 6 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 2: You know, so this one came out in August of 7 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, so it was a minute ago. And you know, 8 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 2: I think I was thinking about pea soup. I've been 9 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 2: on a soup kick, and you know, I think it 10 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 2: is time that I purchased a hamhock and make some 11 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 2: split pea soup. Oh wow, have you ever made it before? No, 12 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 2: it's like a go to rest. This is no, no, no, no, 13 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 2: this is new. So but I again, yeah, I'm like, yeah, 14 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 2: let's make some new soups. 15 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 1: I want to hear all about this, Lauren knows. But 16 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: I am fascinated with p soup for number a number 17 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: of reasons. 18 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 2: We go over it a little bit in this episode. 19 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: But your first association with it is not a food item. 20 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: No no, But I am very interested in the fact that, 21 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: and I have only very briefly looked into it. So 22 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: I don't know how true this is but I feel 23 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: like it had kind of a period where it was 24 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: so fancy. It was like fancy restaurants served it. And 25 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 1: this could be because of the Rescuers the Disney movie. 26 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: It was very fancy in there. So again, I don't 27 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: know the full truth, but I've wanted to do an 28 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,559 Speaker 1: episode ones P for a while. 29 00:01:55,200 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 2: Maybe that's an upcoming one. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. 30 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 2: I don't know it. 31 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: Well, listeners, you can write in and let us know. 32 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: I have to say, I know I talk about it 33 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: in here. I do love peas, and my mom recently 34 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 1: bought me fresh peas and they were the best. It 35 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: was like, oh, she bought me like a steak and peas, 36 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: and I was more excited about the peace. 37 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 2: Really good peas are really good, yes, and you forget 38 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 2: sometimes from like nothing but frozen or canned peas, but 39 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 2: they are delightful, as we talk about in this episode, 40 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 2: which I also found so delightful. Honestly, y'all, not all 41 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 2: of our not all of our work from twenty eighteen 42 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 2: was completely aces, but I think that this one is. Yeah. 43 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 1: Well, I suppose we should let pass Annie and Lauren 44 00:02:48,880 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 1: take it away. Hello, and welcome to Foodstuff I'm Anny Rees. 45 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 2: And I'm Lauren Vocal Bomb, and today we're talking about peace. 46 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: If you please, and I do please. Excellent because we're 47 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: talking about it either way, So I'm glad that you 48 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: do please talk about peace. That is a rhyme fyi 49 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 1: that my dad used to say every time we had peas, 50 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 1: and I could never figure out if it was an 51 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: actual poem or if he just said it because it rhymed. 52 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: But if you're curious where I get all of my 53 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: love of bad puns and every play, everything's falling into place. 54 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: That is one piece of the puzzle, And it turns 55 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: out doing peas I had a couple of weird memories 56 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: associated with them. One is, have you heard of the 57 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: English nest? 58 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 2: No, I have no idea. You wrote that note in 59 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 2: the notes and I was like, well, okay. 60 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: I wonder if anyone else Is this just some weird 61 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: thing that made up in my family? Well, okay, so 62 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: the English nest, And I'm pretty sure I read a 63 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: story about it in one of those literature textbooks high school, 64 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: so I think it's a thing. It's where you get 65 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: your mashed potatoes and you make a little indent in 66 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: them and then you put the peas in there, and 67 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: it looks like a bird's nest with eggs in it. Oh, 68 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: and then you eat it and it's good. It's an 69 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: odd but good mixture. Okay, okay, so please write it 70 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: if that's it's not just me that did that. It 71 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: usually came with ham as well, at least in my family. 72 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 2: Okay, what did the ham represent? 73 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, I guess I'd be like a hawk 74 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: destroying your nest. 75 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 2: Oh wow, goodness. 76 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: Or maybe it's just a pig that just took. 77 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 2: A dark turn. Okay, well, yes, there is also, of course, 78 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: the fairy Tale of the Princess and the. 79 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 1: Peak, Yes, which I was one of my favorite stories 80 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: as a kid. I had a pretty I bought it 81 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 1: at the book fair. And side note, I miss the 82 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 1: book fair so much. That was such an exciting day. 83 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 2: You think about this all the time, And I mean, 84 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 2: like we have, I mean I have access to plenty 85 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 2: of books. I also have like real money and like 86 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 2: bookstores nearby that I could go to, but like the 87 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 2: book fair, it was so exciting. 88 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, get to get out of class and look around 89 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: at books in a little shop sometimes. But I bought 90 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 1: the Princess and the p at one of my first 91 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: book fairs, and it was so beautifully illustrated. It's longer 92 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: than the one I found in the public domain, because 93 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: we recently did that Food for k episode and I 94 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: was like, ah, Princess and Pete, it was like two 95 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: paragraphs long. The one I have is not much longer, 96 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: but it's longer than that, probably so it would have 97 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,239 Speaker 1: more pages and they could sell it for more well, 98 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: you know, anyway, I'm sure it had. 99 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 2: Lovely illustrations as well. Did it have lovely illustrations? 100 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: It did? And does I still have it? It's one 101 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: of the There are a couple of books I could 102 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 1: not get rid of, like children's books, and that that 103 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 1: is one. So maybe I'll bring it in. Yeah, you 104 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 1: can take a look. Absolutely, But we're getting we're getting 105 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: away from our first question, so let's return to it peace. 106 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: What are they? 107 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 2: Peas are the fruit of a climbing vine scientific name 108 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 2: Pisum sativum. The vine flowers and pea pods grow from 109 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 2: those flowers. You know, these like long, skinny, yellow or 110 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 2: green containers that plump up with seeds as the seeds develop. Now, 111 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 2: I said that those pods are fruit and botanically they are, 112 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 2: but they're more commonly called legomes, and legome is the 113 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 2: word for the fruit of a plant in the family Fibasi. 114 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 2: Thanks to listener Kelsey for writing in the last time 115 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 2: I mispronounced it a little bit. I was going off 116 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 2: a four of you dot COM's Latin pronunciation. I don't 117 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 2: know anyway, but back in the day, the Phibasi family 118 00:06:55,400 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 2: was called the Leguminosi, not the laguminati. Ah, the laguminos. 119 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: I wanted her so badly to say that. 120 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 2: But hence hence the name legomes. These fruits typically consist 121 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 2: of a pod with two long seams, you know, on 122 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 2: each side, and the pod contains high protein, high fiber seeds. 123 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 2: Some varietals of peas and sativam have edible pods, like 124 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 2: saccaratum snow peas and macrocarpond or sugar snaps, but today 125 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 2: we're talking mostly about non edible potted peas. 126 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: This is a non edible potted peas podcast. It's great 127 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: branding for this episode. 128 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 2: So, so, the seeds develop in these pods, you know, 129 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 2: wee green or yellow spheres, and you can either let 130 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 2: the whole fruit ripen and then stop growing and dry 131 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,239 Speaker 2: out on the vine and then shell the dry peas 132 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 2: and save them either to plant later or to cook 133 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: in liquid so that they rehydrate. These dried peas are 134 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 2: sometimes hold that is that the skin is taken off, 135 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 2: leaving just the inner bit, which will often split into 136 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 2: two halves at that point, and these are split. 137 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: Peas, Oh I see. 138 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 2: Or you can pick the fruit when the seeds are 139 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 2: still immature, you shell them and either eat them or 140 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 2: cook the peas fresh or freeze them or can them 141 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 2: for later. And at this point they might be called the. 142 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: Garden pea, green peas, English peas, so many names for peas. 143 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 2: Oh you can please, Oh my goodness. They're a little sweet, 144 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 2: a little savory, slash earthy, sort of fresh and grassy, 145 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 2: and have a texture a little bit like potatoes like 146 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,599 Speaker 2: cream eat and meally speaking of mashed potatoes, yeah, I 147 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 2: guess those would go well together, right. The skin of 148 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 2: the pea can create a pleasant like burst or snap 149 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 2: when you bite into one. You can also soak dried 150 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 2: peas overnight and then coat them with some kind of 151 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 2: flavoring like a wassabi flavored rice flour, for example, and 152 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 2: then fry them in oil or hot air or roast them, 153 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 2: which leaves them sort of dehydrated and crispy with saabipas. 154 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: So good, so good. 155 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 2: The leaves are also used as a vegetable or herb 156 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 2: in parts of Asia and Africa, and they are an 157 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 2: annual plant, which means that they die off after a 158 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 2: single growing season and further crops need to be replanted 159 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 2: from seed. They also, like many other legumes, have this 160 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 2: amazing and fascinating symbiotic relationship with bacteria that live in 161 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 2: the soil around their roots. All right, here's a gig. 162 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 2: These bacteria need sugars produced by photosynthesis to live, but 163 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 2: the bacteria themselves cannot photosynthesize, so they form colonies, these 164 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 2: little nodules on the pea's roots. Meanwhile, the pea plants 165 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 2: need nitrogen to create chlorophyll and a bunch of other 166 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 2: important stuff like like various proteins, but they can't use 167 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 2: free ranging nitrogen in the air. They can't absorb it, 168 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 2: even though it's one of the most abundant elements in 169 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 2: our atmosphere. So in turn, the bacteria breathe in nitrogen 170 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 2: from the air and process that nitrogen into ammonia, which 171 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 2: plants can use. This process is called nitrogen fixation, and 172 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 2: peas and other lagomes, along with their little bacteria buddies, 173 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 2: fix so much nitrogen in the soil that there's a 174 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 2: surplus even after the peas growing season is over. They 175 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 2: leave the land better than they found it. Oh yeah, 176 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 2: So for this reason, lagomes are a popular crop to 177 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 2: plant in rotation with other crops that deplete the soil, 178 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 2: and gardeners can use peas like alongside other vegetables to 179 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 2: reduce or ideally eliminate the need to fertilize. 180 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: Way to go. Peas. Yeah, good for the earth. But 181 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: are they good for you? 182 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? 183 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: We're talking nutrition. Yes, yes. Peas have a decent amount 184 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: of protein, potassium, iron, calcium, amino acids, and complex carbs. 185 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: They are a low fat, low sodium food and they 186 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: show up in all kinds of things, some healthier than others. 187 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: Pasta soups, the notorious pea soup. 188 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 2: Oh I love a split pea soup. 189 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: Oh do you? 190 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? 191 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever had one outside of once 192 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: when I was a kid, and The Exorcist is the 193 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: only thing I can envision. They show up frequently in 194 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: fried rice. There's peat flour and pea protein, just to 195 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: name a few. 196 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 2: These days, there's also pea milk, oh yeah, and pea 197 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 2: yogurt on the market for folks who want their dairy 198 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 2: alternatives to be soy and nut free. Personally, I think 199 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 2: the pea yogurt tastes not good. 200 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: Oh I have not had it. 201 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 2: It's one of the very few foods that I've ever 202 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 2: been like, Nope, not this one. 203 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: Why what was it? What was the taste like? Oh, 204 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: it was just sort of well, the face you're making 205 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 1: is not good. 206 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 2: It was sort of planty. It was sort of like 207 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 2: I was eating like a salad yogurt or like a. 208 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: But like, oh, that's not that's what Google thinks of women, 209 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: right there, not a salad bluss yogurt, but not in 210 00:11:58,559 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: a nice way. 211 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 2: I was not a woman and laughing alone with salad yogurt? 212 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: Well who is? 213 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 2: Though? 214 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. 215 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 2: My salads are frequently hilarious good that makes me happy 216 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 2: most of the time. 217 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:16,479 Speaker 1: I'm just kind of like, this is okay. I was joking. Unfortunately. 218 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 2: Back to peas. Frozen peas, I will say, are just 219 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 2: as nutritious as fresh peas, and they are the most 220 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 2: common frozen vegetable in the United States. 221 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: Woo. 222 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, frozen peas are popular here to the point 223 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 2: that it's really hard to find fresh peas outside of 224 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 2: like farmer's markets or your own garden. Yes, Bonea Petite 225 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 2: ran a headline in twenty seventeen PSA, frozen peas are 226 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 2: actually better than fresh bold words, I know. 227 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 1: Yeah. 228 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 2: The article is touting frozen peas convenience and quality and 229 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 2: ability to be cooked into dishes without being thawed first, 230 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 2: and to be fair, peas that are frozen like a 231 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 2: couple hours out of the field. When they are frozen 232 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 2: and they're they're sorted using this fun saltwater process, like 233 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 2: like a really specific gravity of salt water to make 234 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 2: sure that only the younger, more tender less starchy ones 235 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 2: make it into packaging. The tender ones float to the top, 236 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 2: the starchy ones sink in this specific saltwater solution. And 237 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 2: there's no such guarantee on peas that you shell yourself. Folks. 238 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: I'll have to tell my mom that, because if you 239 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: remember in our Frozen Food episode, every summer we buy 240 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 1: so many peas at the farmers market here in Atlanta, 241 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 1: the one off of seventy five South. For you, Laura 242 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: and everyone else. It's like, oh, it's a really big 243 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: farmer's market. 244 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 2: And we blanch them and we freeze them, and the 245 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 2: blanching hurts. 246 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: It hurts because your hands are hot and then they're cold, 247 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: and then you do it again until we usually get 248 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: twenty like freezer size bags of peas and we put 249 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: them in this lock chest freezer. And I never see it, 250 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: you know, because I don't live at home anymore, so 251 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: I'm putting all this work into it. 252 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 2: Why doesn't she give you some to take home? 253 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: I think I probably say no. I'm like, I'd never 254 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: want to see peas again, And then like a week later, 255 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: I'm over it and I'm thinking, wow, I really wish 256 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: I had some of those fresh peas. They do usually 257 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: turn out very well, very delicious. 258 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 2: I believe you. 259 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: Fresh. Crispy, well crunchy is how I like them. 260 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. On an industrial level, the sheer volume involved in 261 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 2: creating frozen peas within hours of the crops being picked 262 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 2: means that farmers have to stagger their plantings and their 263 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 2: pickings so that the freezing facility they're working with will 264 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 2: have the capacity to take their harvest when the peas 265 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 2: are ripe enough it's this whole like Labrinthian schedule. It's fascinating. 266 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: I yeah, I would love to just to observe for 267 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: a little bit. Maybe that would put my struggles in perspective. 268 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: Ah my one day of struggle a year with peas. 269 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 2: I maintain there has to be some better way than 270 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 2: plunging your hands into hot peas and ice. 271 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: My mom does it. It's like like a pro spoons. 272 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 2: Perhaps it probably is a really happy if you heard 273 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 2: of slotted spoons. 274 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: Slotted spoons, you say. 275 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 2: I do say. 276 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: Oh man, I'm gonna have to think about this. 277 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 2: Let's look at the numbers. 278 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: Yes, let's look at the numbers. Somewhere around twelve to 279 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: seventeen point four million tons of peas are produced a year. 280 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 2: And I was I was trying to dig into this 281 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 2: number and I couldn't. I'm not sure if that's just 282 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 2: dried peas. I think it might be just dried peas. 283 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: That's wild because because I. 284 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 2: Kept seeing like, like about twelve million tons of dried 285 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 2: peas every year, and I and there's there's hypothetically a 286 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 2: lot of fresh frozen peas. 287 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: From what we've been discussing, it seems logical. 288 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 2: I think that there could be at least at anyway, 289 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 2: there's a lot of peas. There's a lot of peas, 290 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 2: and mortar intelligence for once failed me on the fresh 291 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 2: pea thing. 292 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: They're busy trying to capture hobbits. We can't blame them 293 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: for that. 294 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 2: Oh it's not my fault. Someone named a company that. 295 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: Anyway, They're native to North Africa and Asia, and you 296 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: can still find wild peas in parts of Iran, Ethiopia 297 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: and Afghanistan. Canada was the largest producer in two thousand, though, 298 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: with China, Russia and France following its lead. And this 299 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: is another food that's eaten all over in all kinds 300 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: of different ways. In parts of Asia, dried peas are 301 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: a popular snack and addition to stir fries, that's a 302 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: pretty popular choice. Mushy peas in England, usually with your 303 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: your fish and chips. 304 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 2: Perhaps sure Note, however, that we are mostly not talking 305 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 2: about American Southern field peas like black eyed peas and 306 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 2: other black brown, cream red type peas, which are more 307 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 2: like beans and tend to take more earthy. A lot 308 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 2: of things are called peas. Yeah they really are, which 309 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 2: is a good segue to our history segment, but a 310 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 2: bad segue to an ad But first we're going to 311 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 2: take you on that ad break and we're back. Thank you, sponsor, Yes. 312 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: Thank you, so yes. Some of the history gets a 313 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 1: little murky because there are three main types of peas 314 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 1: that sometimes get confused for each other when we're talking 315 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: about history. Peas were one of the first domesticated plants 316 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: around eight thousand years ago, most likely in the Middle 317 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: East or South or Central Asia. They are one of 318 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: the eight founder crops or eight of the earliest domesticated 319 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: crops ever. From there, the peace soon appeared in China 320 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 1: and India. If that's not where it originated in the 321 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: first place, oh history. If we're talking pre domestication, some 322 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: evidence suggest the Neanderthals were eating peas forty six thousand 323 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: years ago. Might not be the same pea, though I 324 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 1: would say probably not the same pea, probably not. Other 325 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: evidence suggests that two types of peas were each domesticated 326 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 1: from a now extinct ancestor about eleven thousand years ago 327 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: in the Near East. The first known evidence of purposeful 328 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: pea cultivation is out of Syria nine three hundred years ago. 329 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: Those domesticating the pea did so selectively attempting to get 330 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: to a softer, shelled, wet season ready crop. Ancient Greeks, Egyptians, 331 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:50,239 Speaker 1: Romans all enjoyed peas in their cuisine. The Epicios, that 332 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 1: really old cookbook recipe book had nine recipes that utilized 333 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: dried peas. Pea soup was a common to go item 334 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: sold by streetman. There's an ancient Athens, which I find 335 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 1: very curious. Indeed, one story goes that after Romans encountered it, 336 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: they named it piece them and that is where the 337 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: name comes from. But about that name, okay, So, originally 338 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: peas as in p ea s was the name for 339 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: a single P until the late seventeenth century when it 340 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: became known as the plural. So people seeing this peas 341 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: thought that that was the plural of oh. 342 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 2: It would say it out loud and say peace, and 343 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 2: then from there you get the singular p. 344 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: Yes, So it was kind of a big misunderstanding. 345 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 2: Oh but people were saying pieces pieces, Yeah, that's great. 346 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 1: I know, let's go back to that. We can try 347 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 1: it perfect. But you can still see peas in the 348 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: rhyme peas poor it hot, which I don't know but 349 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: apparently is a lasting rhyme. 350 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 2: Peace porge, hot peace, porge, cold peace porge, and a 351 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 2: pot nine days old. 352 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 1: Look at you, Lauren font You really are always surprising 353 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 1: me with these rhymes about peas and other things. Peace 354 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 1: itself is possibly way way older, pre Indo European, maybe 355 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: even a g in Wow. I went on a hunt 356 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: to prove that Peace was related to Pisa, as in 357 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: Leaning Tower. 358 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 2: Of But no die oh, I'm sorry. 359 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: But Pisa is in its family tree. If like a 360 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: word family tree, I'm really bummed about it. But you 361 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: can't always get what you want. 362 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 2: That's good, good life advice. 363 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: Any The Rolling Stones taught me that peas reached China 364 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: in seventh century CE, possibly called foreign legume piece at 365 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: this time maybe eaten fresh, but we're commonly dry dried. 366 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: Peas were a big time winter food. These peas were 367 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 1: more closely resembled to chickpeas, though Charlemagne had peas planted 368 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: in his gardens in eight hundred c e France, and 369 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 1: at the same time peas were a popular staple for peasants, 370 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: which I also went on a word hunt to see 371 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: if peasants and peas was related, and it's not, or 372 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: at least I didn't find any evidence that it was well. 373 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: They stored well and they kept for a long time, 374 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: so they were a good peasant food. And green peas 375 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: for lent were stored in the Barking Nunnery in twelfth 376 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 1: century London. A century later in France, fresh peas in 377 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: the pod was a popular street food item. They would 378 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: go on become a go to food for lant in 379 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: France and England. 380 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 2: Full of protein, you know meat. 381 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: And I think for back when we had big family 382 00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 1: dinners when I was younger on Easter, I believe we 383 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: had peace. 384 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 2: It's a pretty popular spring fresh peas or a good 385 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 2: spring spring thing. They are a little bit of mint 386 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 2: and lemon. 387 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: Maybe. In sixteenth century Italy, gardeners cultivated a smaller tender 388 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:19,479 Speaker 1: pee called Pizzelli Novelli. People loved these things. It was 389 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: the fashion, the fashion to eat unripe peas. 390 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 2: Well by by unripe just like yeah, like immature, yeah, 391 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 2: green peas, because previously most of them had been eaten dried. 392 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and all the way up until seventeenth century, people 393 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: were sort of head over heels in love with these things. 394 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 1: A female friend of the Sun King, Louis the fourteenth 395 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: had this to say about fresh peas, which could be 396 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: wildly expensive. By the way, this subject of peas continues 397 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: to absorb all of us. Some ladies, even after having 398 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: supped at the royal table and well supped too, returning 399 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 1: to their homes at the risk of suffering from indigestion, 400 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: well again, eat peas before going to bed. It is 401 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: both a fashion and a madness. I mean, I mean 402 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: they're good. They are good. 403 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 2: I mean they're real good. 404 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: They are. They have such an interesting texture thing going on. 405 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's that pop and then the kind of creamy thing. Yeah. 406 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 3: Yeah. 407 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 2: It's one of my favorite dishes that I had in England. 408 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 2: Just again like peas, a little bit of lemon, little 409 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 2: bit of mint. 410 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: They were just so. 411 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 2: Green, they are very bright. They were just so I 412 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 2: felt like they tasted like the land and the air. 413 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: Oh now I'm gonna ash to get peas in every episode. 414 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 1: This happens every episode almost And I have a slight 415 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: aside because during this episode, the main reason I wanted 416 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:52,959 Speaker 1: to do it was mostly because of genetics. Won't get 417 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: into that more later, but I did a lot of 418 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 1: these memories got jumbled around in my head. Did you 419 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: ever play. Well wait a minute, did you take what language? 420 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: Did you take as Spanish? Spanish? Okay, so you didn't 421 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 1: play this game. No, anyone who took French please write 422 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: in if you remember playing the game The Sun King 423 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 1: game where you were wandering around is court and trying 424 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: to please people like it was a computer game that 425 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: we would play in French class to learn French, and 426 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 1: I just totally forgot about it. I remember it being 427 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 1: incredibly frustrating. You could never figure out what they wanted, 428 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: which might have been the lesson. 429 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 2: Oh wow, and that's a little bit existential for what 430 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 2: like middle school? But yeah, sure, all. 431 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: Right, Well, speaking of fashion, that trend setter Catherine de 432 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: Medici introduced peas to France during the fifteen hundreds, and 433 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: the French named them tiny peas petipois. Due to the 434 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: popularity of peas in France, some towns were named after 435 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: recipes associated with their town that incorporated peas. Street vendors 436 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: in England advertised their hot gray peas with a called 437 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: bacon around this time as well. New varieties developed in 438 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: England around this time were known as garden peas and 439 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: English peace. Yeah. So that's some europe for you Europe 440 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: really digging into the stash of peas. We do have 441 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 1: some some New World stuff, but first we have one 442 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: last quick break forward from our sponsor, and we're back. 443 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: Thank you sponsor, Yes, thank you. The colonists brought peas 444 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 1: with them to the New World. In quotes, they kept 445 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: well and were good for voyages, so kind of an 446 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: obvious choice to take with you. Settlers in Canada's New 447 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: France bought with them pea soup. If you remember at 448 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 1: the beginning we said top grower was Canada and France 449 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 1: was in the top five. I'll find that really kind 450 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 1: of there's interesting pe legacy. There is a p legacy, 451 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 1: and once again it's time to talk about someone else 452 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: with a legacy. Thomas Jefferson. He and his neighbors engaged 453 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 1: in a battle of the peas to see who could 454 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 1: grow them in their garden first, and Thomas Jefferson came 455 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: out in front. 456 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 2: Hopping back over to Europe. 457 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:31,959 Speaker 1: In the seventeen nineties, peas appeared in their first genetics study, 458 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 1: one led by Thomas Andrew Knight. 459 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and of course genetics weren't I mean, it's technically 460 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 2: what he was studying. He didn't know it at the time, 461 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 2: but he was working with different colored peas and observing 462 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 2: how cross fertilizing them could affect the color of future generations. 463 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: France's eighteen hundred's Encyclopedia The Vegetable Garden included fifty pages 464 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: on different types of peas. 465 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 2: Wow. 466 00:26:55,760 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then along comes one Gregor Mendel in the 467 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: eighteen sixties. Mendel was an Austrian monk who realized that 468 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: some pea traits were more dominant than others. He carried 469 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: out a series of experiments that were the precursor to 470 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 1: the laws of genetic inheritance. While he died pretty much 471 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: as an unknown, his research came back into the scientific 472 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: zeitgeist in the nineteen hundreds and his contributions to genetics 473 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: was recognized. 474 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's currently called like like the father of genetics 475 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 2: in some circles. And Mendel was using pea plants because 476 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 2: they're inexpensive, they're easy to grow and keep track of, 477 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 2: easier even than mice and honeybees, which is what he 478 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 2: started with. Part of why his work didn't catch on 479 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 2: during the time was that the prevailing theory was that 480 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 2: offspring are blend of their parents' traits. You know, like 481 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 2: if you've got a tall mom and a short dad, 482 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 2: you'll be of medium height. So therefore, what Mendel was saying, 483 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 2: you know that two tall parents can produce a short 484 00:27:54,720 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 2: offspring because the short trait may have been inherited. Just recessive, right. 485 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 2: It was unintuitive to people at the time, especially because 486 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 2: humans are more genetically complicated than pea plants. But no 487 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 2: one knew about genes yet, so it seemed really easily dismissed. 488 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 2: But yet his concepts of receiving a random assortment of 489 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 2: traits from each parent half of the traits that they 490 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 2: had each inherited from their parents would become the basis 491 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 2: of chromosomal heredity. In the early nineteen hundreds. 492 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: The Humble Pee, the Humble Pee, the Campbell Company. Yes, 493 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 1: that Campbell Company chows peas as one of the first 494 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: things to can in eighteen seventy, as mentioned in our 495 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: Frozen Foods episode. They were also some of the first 496 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: vegetables to be frozen around the nineteen twenties. 497 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 2: And speaking of frozen peas, yes, there is this absolutely 498 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 2: bizarre and delightful moment and relatively recent history in which 499 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 2: famed actor writer and director Orson Welles absolutely pitched a 500 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 2: fit while attempting to record a few commercials, one being 501 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 2: for frozen peas. Another one was for cod fish fingers. 502 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 2: And I can't believe I forgot that when we were 503 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 2: doing our cod episode all anyway, this this fit he pitched. 504 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 2: This was This was after he reportedly made the recording 505 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 2: crew chase him all over Europe, like at least five 506 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 2: locations around Europe, a sort of revenge for them requesting 507 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 2: an audition. 508 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: How dare they? 509 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 2: This happened around nineteen seventy, so he was he was 510 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 2: already quite famous and really infamous also over being pretty persnickety, 511 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 2: and had taken to doing ads to help pay for 512 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 2: his pet projects. And I think we can roll a 513 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 2: little bit of this here because oh it's that's gold. 514 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 3: We know a remote farm in Lincolnshire where Missus Buckley lives. 515 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 3: Every July, peas grow there. Do you really mean that? 516 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? So you know i'd start half a second late. 517 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 3: Don't you think you really want to say July over 518 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 3: the snow? Isn't that the fun of it? It's if 519 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 3: you can make it almost when that shot disappears, it'll 520 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 3: make mine. I think it's so nice that that you 521 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 3: see a snow covered field and say, every July, peas 522 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 3: grow there. We know a remote farm in Lincolnshire where 523 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 3: Missus Buckley lives. Every July, peas grow there. We aren't 524 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,719 Speaker 3: even in the fields you see. We're talking about him 525 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 3: growing and she's picked. 526 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: Him in July. 527 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 3: I don't understand you. Then, when must what must be 528 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 3: over for July? When we get out of that snowy field. 529 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 3: When I was out, we were onto a can of peas, 530 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 3: a big dish of peace. When I said in July, 531 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 3: that's just idiotic. If you'll forgive me, if I say so, 532 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 3: that's just stupid in July. I'd love to know how 533 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 3: you emphasize in and in July. 534 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 2: We just actually played a little bit of it in 535 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 2: the studio here, Annie, Do you have any thoughts, feelings, reactions. 536 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: I love how his tone is very like even the 537 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,959 Speaker 1: whole time it sounds reasonable, but what he's saying is 538 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: super unreasonable, super unreasonable. And I told Lauren, I don't 539 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: know what part we played, but I'm determined to say 540 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: you don't know what I'm up against in a like 541 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: straight voice. 542 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, in regular conversation. Yeah, maybe by the end of 543 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 2: the day. I think you can. I have faith in 544 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 2: you can. 545 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: I think I can. Yeah, he calls from Orson. 546 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 2: But yeah, if if that sounds familiar to anyone who 547 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 2: has never actually listened to that Orson Wells clip, but 548 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 2: who was perhaps watching Animaniacs or The Critic back in 549 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 2: the nineteen nineties, that's because Maurice LaMarsh, Who's wells impersonation 550 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 2: is super on point, and what I would say the 551 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 2: Brain character is based on. He did it pretty much 552 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 2: verbatim in Pinky and the Brain, except he like put 553 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 2: in family friendly phrasing for a few things, and he 554 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 2: also parodied it in The Critic. So yeah, you can. 555 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 2: You can look up the full audio under the names 556 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 2: Yes Always or or Frozen Peas if you just want 557 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 2: a real good giggle, I recommend it. 558 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: Now that you pointed out yes the Brain so much, 559 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: very much. Oh that's so scared me as a kid, 560 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: I wonder, and I could never put my finger on 561 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: why huh. It just really unsettled me. 562 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 2: It did, but in a way that I liked. Then again, 563 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 2: I'm like, I was a little bit older than you at. 564 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: The time, so I might have Yeah, I should, I 565 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 1: should revisit it and see if I can figure out 566 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: what it was put me so on edge that show. 567 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: Maybe it was the Arson wild impression. Maybe I don't know. 568 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 2: I don't know, but uh yeah, that's uh, that's the 569 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 2: story of Frozen peace and peace in general. 570 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: Yes, and that brings us to the end of this 571 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: classic episode. We hope that you found it as delightful 572 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: as we found it bringing it back. 573 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah. Oh and if you have any 574 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 2: insider information or recipes about pea soup, let us know. 575 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: Yes, please, I've been long thinking about this, but also 576 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,719 Speaker 1: any p related recipes. 577 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll share. 578 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 3: Yes. 579 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: Well, you can email all of that to us Hello 580 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: at savorpod dot com. 581 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 2: Or get in touch via social media. 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