WEBVTT - Florida Has a Python Problem…Our Guest is the Solution 0:00:01.320 --> 0:00:07.440 Really now, really, really. 0:00:09.080 --> 0:00:11.640 Now, really Hello, and welcome to Really Know Really with 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:15.080 Jason Alexander and Peter Tilden, who remind you it wouldn't 0:00:15.160 --> 0:00:17.880 kill you to subscribe to our show, but something that 0:00:18.040 --> 0:00:21.320 can kill you is the subject of today's episode, especially 0:00:21.320 --> 0:00:24.680 if you live in the beautiful Sunshine state. Florida is 0:00:24.800 --> 0:00:30.760 now infested with an estimated three hundred thousand plus pythons, 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:35.200 some twenty feet long and weighing up to two fifty pounds. Currently, 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:38.080 the only way to control these non native snakes is 0:00:38.080 --> 0:00:43.279 by sending hunters deep into alligator infested swamps to find, capture, 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:47.680 and kill these apex predators. Really no, really. You'll also 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:51.360 hear about Jason's startling close encounter with a snake, plus 0:00:51.400 --> 0:00:56.520 the touching story of the man with an emotional support alligator. 0:00:57.120 --> 0:00:58.080 Here's Jason and Peter. 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:03.760 You know, they have a python problem, a Burmese python 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:06.920 problem in the Florida Everglades. People tend to get them 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:08.840 as pets and then they get a little unwieldy and 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:11.240 they release them and they become predatory animals, and they 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:15.039 upset the balance of the ecology of the everglades. So 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:17.319 people go out and they capture these things. That's the 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:21.120 thing to do is capture it. So I don't know, 0:01:22.360 --> 0:01:25.000 you know, but you might not know. Pythons can get 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:30.880 to be big. So imagine something seventeen feet seventeen feet long, 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:33.280 weighing about one hundred and ten pounds. What do you 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:36.120 think is the bear requirement to send somebody out to 0:01:36.200 --> 0:01:39.600 capture that thing? I have had a figure crocodile Dundee, 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:42.640 the crocodile hunter, maybe a four hundred pound guy with 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:47.000 a gun and a scope. Now a little woman five 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:51.080 foot four, one hundred and twenty pounds went out and 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:57.000 captured a seventeen foot three inch python herself, no weapons. 0:01:57.360 --> 0:02:01.920 She took basically a baggie and a lot of kutzpah. 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:07.880 Amy Sewey was a real estate person in Indianapolis and 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:11.520 went to Florida and got involved with this python hunting 0:02:11.560 --> 0:02:13.840 thing and God hook, She's going to tell you her story. 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:16.880 Can you see what that moment we should I'm not 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:18.880 showing another person the house. 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:19.520 I've had I've had. 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:22.000 I'm in the middle of a couples when I'm done, 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:25.200 and I'm going to go what aggravat I'm going to 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:28.480 with the insects of the side of my head. Anytime 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:30.639 I've peed in the Everglades, I've seen two sorts of 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:31.880 eyes looking up right at me. 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:34.079 Yeah, why would you go there? We got a fight? Yeah. 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:37.800 So she has captured and killed more than four hundred pythons. 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:41.560 She posts guided towards where ticket buying guests go out 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:45.040 there with her. She makes all kinds of beautiful uh 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:49.280 python leather products like watchbands and whatnot. And as I say, 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:52.040 she has, I don't think there's a woman with a 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:56.120 with a bigger record than this three inch python, one 0:02:56.200 --> 0:02:58.600 hundred and ten pounds, Ladies and gentlemen, a woman I'm 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:04.560 already afraid of. Welcome Amy ce Hi, Amy. 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:06.720 Well, hello, thanks for having me a pleasure. 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:11.680 It's amazing, amazing looking at you, because I mean, if 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:13.240 I don't know, if I could listen have been to 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:16.600 the Everglades. There's so many things other than the python 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:21.920 which can cause you can recap the python is. So 0:03:22.160 --> 0:03:23.720 just tell your story for a minute and get us 0:03:23.800 --> 0:03:26.400 up to speed. What did happen with the real estate 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:28.560 job where you went, no moss, I'm going to go 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:29.480 catch pythons. 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:33.560 Actually, nothing happened. I wasn't even looking for a new career. 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:35.480 I loved for real estate. I was good at it, 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:38.560 and that was that was my track. But the thing is, 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:42.240 I love snakes. I've got this passion for snakes and 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:44.720 I always have since I was a little girl. My 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:46.720 dad put me in the creek and taught me how 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:49.800 to catch all kinds of critters. And I just had 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:53.800 this crazy fascination with snakes and it it just never ended. 0:03:54.240 --> 0:03:54.760 And what is it? 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:56.839 What is it? Because I'm he' screeped out by them? 0:03:57.280 --> 0:03:58.240 I am so creepy. 0:03:58.360 --> 0:04:01.720 I don't want to get Freudian, but I've heard you say, 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:02.760 I don't know what it is. 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:06.160 I've just always loved snakes. Tell a little bit, try 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:08.320 and look in a mirror. I figure out what the 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:12.440 hell you problem is? Snakes? What is it? It's serious? 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:14.600 If I could answer, I was like, why wasn't it 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:18.039 puppies or kittens or dolphins or something normal, you know? 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:19.760 Or why didn't I play with barbies? Why am I 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:22.760 playing with snakes? This is so stupid, But that's that's 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:24.920 what it is, and it's it's actually my dad had 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:27.000 this tremendous, you know, love for nature and taught me 0:04:27.040 --> 0:04:28.440 all kinds of things about it. 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:32.239 And then the snakes. I think it's because we didn't see. 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:35.200 Them as often as everything else, and it was you know, 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:38.320 they were you know, you didn't want them to bite you, obviously, 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:41.239 and it was almost kind of like a challenge. 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:42.560 It was a huge challenge. 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:44.280 And so whenever we would catch one, it would be, 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:46.680 you know, it would be amazing. And so I just 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:48.640 from there this crazy passion. 0:04:48.839 --> 0:04:53.160 Let me ask you, turtles didn't cut it for you? 0:04:52.920 --> 0:04:58.400 You know proms prad ads, Yeah, kind of boy snake. 0:04:58.720 --> 0:05:00.760 I see these videos, especially when I was looking to 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:05.040 do research this, and they're lunatics who have these perrariums 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:06.960 with the snakes in it. And the guy's walking in 0:05:07.000 --> 0:05:10.360 and say, oh, all submit me, and he's laughing and going, world, 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:13.400 what's satisfaction? Is there a relationship that you get with 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:15.960 a snake? Can you understand the snake? Can you understand 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:16.479 the behavior? 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:19.479 Carstle Tongue is now with a dog. 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:22.080 With a dog, you hope you get a relationship and 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:24.159 you can expect you expectations or whatever. 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:26.080 With a cat, even though they're. 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:28.760 Sneaky and I wouldn't have one again, but and they 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:31.320 suck the life out of it, you can get what 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:34.400 they're about. Even when you see people with big cats, 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:37.800 they can anticipate maybe with a snake. What enjoyment do 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:40.400 you get about having a snake in your room when 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:41.520 you go to sleep at night? Do you go to 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:42.480 kiss the snake at night? 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:43.960 Is it? I mean, is it a Is there a 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:44.800 relationship or. 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:49.160 That's presuming, but you do you find an affectionate relationship 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:52.800 between snakes or a bonding relationship between yourself and snakes. 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:54.960 No, there's no bonding with a snake. 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:56.960 They actually don't have the part of their brain that's, 0:05:57.000 --> 0:06:00.359 you know, the emotional piece of it. So they know me, 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:02.000 the snakes that I've owned in the past because I 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:04.320 used to be a breeder. They know me because I 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:07.039 feed them basically. But when I go out there in 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:09.560 the swamp, I mean obviously they're all out to try 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:10.320 to you know, they. 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:10.880 Don't let me. 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:14.240 Let me back up, people are not on the menu, okay, 0:06:14.320 --> 0:06:18.240 So these pythons are not actually coming after us to 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:20.920 eat us. So it actually makes my job a little 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:22.680 bit harder because they're very very hard to find. If 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:24.760 they were trying to eat me, at least I know 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:26.400 where they are, so then I could. 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:31.520 I could beat baits. So you leave real estate and 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:32.480 gone to the everglet. 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:36.200 Sure. Well, I learned about the python problem down here. 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:37.120 I had no idea it. 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:39.240 Was a thing, and when I found out about it, 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:42.080 I thought, WHOA, what is this? I really need to 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:44.440 go down and see what this is all about. You 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:48.600 can catch pythons in Florida. That's kind of cool. And 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:51.880 so I went on vacation. I went on a hunt. 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:55.120 I caught a python, and I was hooked. I was like, 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:57.000 this is it, this is what I'm this is what 0:06:57.000 --> 0:06:57.839 I'm supposed to be doing. 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:01.720 It was that amazing, was that big a rushian adrenaline 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:02.560 rush for you to do it? 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:02.880 Well? 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:03.840 It wasn't even that. 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:06.400 It was that this is I can take this passion 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:10.080 and I can use it and make a difference in 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:12.760 the world. I can actually help Florida with this colossal 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:14.760 problem because I'm not afraid of them. I know a 0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:17.200 lot about them, and I constantly want to learn. So 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:20.640 I'm an asset to the team in Florida. 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:23.120 Okay, I've seen the video, but for people that haven't, 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:27.720 can you describe briefly how do you podcast a seventeen 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:28.560 foot python? 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:30.000 What do you do well? 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:32.800 Typically with a normal snake, but that's not quite that big. 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:35.640 You just you grab it behind the head, right, you 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:37.720 get all the way up behind the jaws, because if 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:39.480 you get down even just a little bit, they'll turn 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:41.840 around and they'll nail you. So you have to catch 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:44.960 them behind the head. So with a seventeen footer though, 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:47.800 you know, I was by myself, and I cannot out 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:50.880 muscle a seventeen footer. Most people can't, and so I 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:53.240 knew early on that I was probably going to come 0:07:53.240 --> 0:07:55.240 across a big snake and I needed to be prepared 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:58.000 for how I was going to do this. And so 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:00.440 in the vet and pet store business, you know, we 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:04.600 would put a dark cloth over the animal's eyes or 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:05.840 their face to calm them down. 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:08.280 So I thought maybe this would work for a python. 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:10.800 So I practiced with like a couple thirteen and fourteen footers, 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:13.680 and I would put the bag, it was six by 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:16.720 six inch drawstring bag over these pythons heads and they 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:17.120 just stopped. 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:18.160 It just stopped them cold. 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:23.080 So I so the night that I caught that seventeen footer, 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:26.040 it was so funny because I was by myself, It's midnight, 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:28.920 and I'm driving my truck slowly down the road and 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:32.080 I see this thing periscoping and that's when they kind 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:33.080 of they're up about two or. 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:34.000 Three feet in the dust. 0:08:34.040 --> 0:08:36.760 I wanted to ask about nobody believes that. I read 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:39.840 that part the periscoping. So that's like a cobra. It's sitting. 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:41.520 It's actually sitting up looking at you. 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:45.000 Yes it is, but it's the telltale sign is that 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:49.000 is that white against all of the green and brown, right, so. 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:50.040 They stand out. 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:53.120 And so I see that, and I pulled the truck 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:56.440 over and I grab my GoPro and I grab my 0:08:56.880 --> 0:08:59.240 little bag and I get out. And I don't know 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:00.800 how big this snake is. I mean, I just know 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:03.840 that it's a python. And so in the meantime, it 0:09:03.920 --> 0:09:06.520 had gone down. So when I finally I finally see 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:09.360 some pattern through the grass and I follow it up 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:13.319 and I see the biggest head of a snake I've 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:15.760 ever seen. And I'm standing there and I'm looking at 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:17.960 this bag and I'm looking at this I'm like, oh 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:20.960 my god, what's wrong with me? But I just you know, 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:22.880 you can't hesitate. So I just jumped on it and 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:26.319 I nailed it down. And now keep in mind, I 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:28.440 can't see that the rest of the snake. I have 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:30.600 no idea how big the snake is. I just know 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:33.959 that it's pretty big and it's It wasn't a wrestling match. 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:35.760 It was more a battle of strength. It was trying 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:37.200 to shim me back into the swamp. 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:39.480 So I'm, you know, actually squatting it up with my 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:42.319 you know, legs, trying to keep it from going back 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:44.360 in the swamp. And then I ended up getting that 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:46.720 bag over its head and as soon as I did, 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:50.080 it just stopped. I mean, and you can see the video, 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:53.480 it's kind of a struggle, but the snake stopped. So 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:55.679 I was just sitting there on top of a snake 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:58.400 at midnight in a ditch on the side of the highway, 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:00.880 and I'm like, hah, now I have to pull this 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:01.480 thing out of here. 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:03.120 Yeah. 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:06.480 And that's when another truck of people, you knew, who 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:07.600 I guess were fellow hunters. 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:10.120 Yeah, some other hunters drove by. So I yelled out 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:13.120 and they backed up and they said, what are you doing. 0:10:13.200 --> 0:10:15.240 I'm like, I'm sitting on a python. They're like why, 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:19.640 Like you'll see and they came down and oh my gosh, 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:22.559 and they both said, this is the biggest python we've 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:24.679 ever seen, so it was pretty cool. 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:28.560 We will post the video of Amy's capture of this 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:31.320 on our website. You can also see at her website 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:32.960 as well, and we'll give you that information at the end. 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:38.080 But exactly as you say, I'm watching the video and 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:42.400 I'm seeing what you're seeing through your GoPro. You're right 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:46.360 on top of this thing. I can't see it until 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:50.600 you actually put your hands around that. I couldn't see 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:53.040 what you were seeing. It just looked like weeds and 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:54.280 straw muck. 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:58.280 And if it's disguised, then you're going for it and 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:00.640 you can't find it right away, can then turn on 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:02.600 you and bite you as a defense. 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:05.719 Mechage, Absolutely, you can mass They got razor sharp teeth, right, 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:06.320 they have a. 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:08.439 Mouthful of razor sharp teeth teeth. 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:11.360 I've been bitten. I don't even know how many times, 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:11.880 so many times. 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:12.920 Do have a. 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:15.280 Visible bite scar anywhere that you can show? 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:18.360 No, No, Okay, it would be so cool if I did, 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:19.840 But they don't scar for some reason. 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:23.920 It's really weird to see how they can scar. Take 0:11:23.960 --> 0:11:24.560 me on a hunt. 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:27.680 You'll see how badly oh that's going to leave a 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:29.200 mark has never been truer. 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:31.720 So the other thing I got to wonder about the everglades, 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:35.360 and the everglades, you're jumping in there. There's stuff in there. 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:37.480 There's there's gators, there's all kinds. So how do you 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:39.079 know what you're stepping into if it's night and you 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:40.199 can't see. 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:41.280 Well, you don't. 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:43.200 When I first moved there, I thought I was going 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:45.560 to have to have like a fifty cow and you 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:48.800 know for the bears and the gators and pythons and 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:51.360 the panthers and you know, all the venomous snakes that 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:53.360 are there and all kinds of things. But at the 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:55.520 end of the day, they don't want anything to do 0:11:55.559 --> 0:11:57.680 with you. I mean they really really don't. 0:11:58.520 --> 0:11:59.920 Gators would not attack. 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:03.160 Have you stepped within a foot of a gator, they're 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:05.800 not going to go ooh, here's something they wouldn't. 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:09.640 Usually usually they don't let you get that close to them. Now, 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:11.599 the only thing that I would be worried about is 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:14.920 a bowl alligator that during mating season. 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:16.480 It's being territorial, I would think. 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:18.120 And a lot of there's a lot of videos, by 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:20.960 the way, Love Florida Love on golf courses when a 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:23.959 giant python is fighting an alligator on like the eighth 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:27.040 t and these guys are standing there and by the way, 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:28.160 pissed that. 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:30.560 We got to we're trying to fight, can we all 0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:31.640 that we're trying to play through? 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:34.880 So the amazing thing about these pythons and why they've 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:38.640 eradicated the mammal population there is they eat every I mean, 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:42.920 they're eating the panthers, they're eating the gators, they're eating 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:45.319 all of the mammals. So they don't have right now 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:48.800 any other predator. And they're saying there's no chance at 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:52.000 eradicating mall because there could be one hundred and fifty thousand, 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:54.440 there could be three hundred thousand. They're not sure how 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:55.040 many there are. 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:57.760 Correct, that is correct, That is correct. But yees, so 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:00.920 there are no predators. They are it, We are it. 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:05.079 I mean we've got invasive hogs, and hogs will eat pythons. 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:07.800 Pythons will eat hogs, but nobody eats enough of each 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:08.600 other to make a difference. 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:09.800 Same with alligators. 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:12.800 Neither one are very high on each other's you know, 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:13.959 priority list of food. 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:16.040 And they're going north now too. They're up in like 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:19.320 West palm Are here, they're gambling in Boca they're going 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:22.200 to Delis and Boca. I mean they're they're they're everywhere, right, 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:23.480 They're really getting to spread out. 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:27.840 I mean, there's okay, I'm just a cart blonte statement. 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:30.319 You have more than I do. 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:35.720 I honestly, I don't think I could do what you do. 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:39.200 I really do what you think people have. Many people 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:41.960 have such a repulsion to snakes. It seems to be 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:45.000 a huge phobia for many many people. Do you have 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:45.800 any thoughts on them? 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:46.320 So? 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:46.960 I think it. 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:50.679 You know, they're also portrayed. You always see these giant teeth. 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:53.560 You know, they're going into these fangs of the of 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:56.679 the vipers and the rattlesnakes, and I think that, you know, 0:13:57.640 --> 0:13:58.839 people don't want to get bitten by that. 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:01.000 Yeah, but it's weird. 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:03.840 People get bitten by dogs too, but generally that's not 0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:06.000 as big a phobi there's I think it's to me, 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:10.240 there's something about they are very they feel very alien, 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:14.360 as many reptiles amphibians do. They're not they're not cuddly, 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:15.640 they don't have the warm eyes. 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:19.560 You don't exactly they don't see snakes playing a piano. 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:22.600 Don't even understand how are they moving exactly? 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:26.080 What are they do, they're so alien to us that 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:27.840 that's a yeah. 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:29.800 So here's the question I was going to ask you. 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:34.200 Are you just generally a little less fearful than most 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:36.040 people or is there stuff that you go, Yeah, I 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:37.600 know it's irrational, but this scares me. 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:42.080 You know, I will say this, jumping in that swamp, 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:43.920 it's a challenge. 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:44.400 It's fine. 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:45.280 Are you friendly? 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:48.080 I know there's Dusty the wild Man Crumb and there's 0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:51.200 just the swamp apes. There's a bunch of people doing 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:54.520 what you do. And are they There's a certain amount 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:56.240 that are sanctioned by the state that go out to 0:14:56.280 --> 0:14:58.400 try and eradicate. And then there's the big round up, 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:00.600 the ten is it the ten ten day round round up? 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:02.840 Is that what it is? Where you come down there 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:04.040 and you get paid how much? 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:06.440 Four? Oh, it's big money, big money, Pete. 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:09.240 I heard it's like fifty bucks for the snake in general, 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:11.480 and then for the first four feet there's nothing, and 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:13.640 then after four feet it's like ten bucks a foot. 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:16.240 You can really you can eat at Arby's at the 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:19.840 end of a boost to stuff that we don't understand. 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:22.000 I'm just saying, for what they're doing, it's not a 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:22.560 lot of money. 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:24.320 You're in the Everglades, you just finished bowling, You're on 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:26.280 your way home. You see a snake across the road. 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:28.120 You pick it up. You're dropping a drop box and 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:31.720 a license. You need a license to do this, don't you. 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:35.800 No, the public can can hunt the snakes. However, they 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:39.080 cannot transport them live, so they have to be killed 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:39.760 on site. 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:41.600 Oh, when I heard about Peter, let me tell you 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:43.880 about the killing thing I read something about the killing 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:46.920 isn't it's a two step method to do it. You know, 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:49.560 to do it nicely, to do it nicely. So the 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:53.720 first thing, the first step is swim. Your first step 0:15:53.800 --> 0:16:08.120 is fleeing, and then step one A is your first 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:11.920 step is fleeing, and then step one A is Your 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:17.000 method should result in the animal losing consciousness immediately. You 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:22.240 read you destroy the animal's brain by piffing, which which 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:26.000 prevents it from regaining consciousness. So conscious the consciousness part. 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:28.480 The thing I saw is like a it's like a. 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:33.880 It's it's did you see it's this little thing You 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:36.720 go boom and it like sends a pellet bang him 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:38.960 right in the head in this in the sweet spot, 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:43.480 and they're unconscious now that's where I would walk away, 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:45.880 going it's not chasing me now. And then I think 0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:47.960 the next part is you take I saw like this 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:50.640 is gonna be gross, like a screwdriver goes in and 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:55.400 you kind of like. 0:16:57.440 --> 0:17:00.440 Yeah, and then if you're, if you're, if you amy. 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:06.400 We spent the next seventeen hours skinning an eighteen foot python, 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:09.960 and you dry it and she makes very beautiful Do. 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:10.119 You know what? 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:12.000 I have one eighteen foot python? You can get one 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:12.640 driving glove. 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:17.160 No, I saw it. I think I saw belts. Yes, 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:19.760 I saw watch bands or bracelets of something. 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:21.280 Yeah, I've got watch bands apple. 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:23.879 Oh that is actually gorgeous. 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:25.280 Thank you, thank you. 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:28.359 Yeah, so I skin them on my the LNI of 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:29.440 my snowbird condo. 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:31.480 Never did I think that i'd be doing. 0:17:31.240 --> 0:17:35.000 That from from from selling real estate. Now there's your 0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:36.880 significant other, who I'm guessing still with you. I don't 0:17:36.880 --> 0:17:38.480 want to probe, but is he is? 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:38.639 He? 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:42.120 Is he as into this stuff as you are? Because 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:44.240 I could see me coming out my bathrobe and going 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:47.119 and she's got another ag, another thing hanging from the 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:47.840 thing in the condo. 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:51.480 Yes, no, no, no he wasn't. 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:53.359 So I just have to tell you this though, so 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:56.280 he's a hunter and a fisherman, you know, very outdoorsy. 0:17:56.680 --> 0:17:59.960 Really appreciated my passion for snakes and everything. 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:01.840 He would go hunting with me. 0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:04.240 He would he would drive the truck and I would 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:07.080 be able to spot right. And then one day we 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:10.879 come across a fourteen and a half foot python. I'm like, Babe, 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:13.240