1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntire. 2 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 2: What is up fire buy him? It's me Jason McIntire, 3 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 2: Straight Poyer four Monday, January the twenty sixth, and ladies 4 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 2: and gentlemen, the Super Bowl is set. Drum roll please 5 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: Seattle versus New England. Woh woh woh, it's not that bad. Obviously. 6 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,959 Speaker 2: We got to give shout outs to both the New 7 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 2: England Patriots, who absolutely nobody had in the Super Bowl 8 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 2: and the Seattle Seahawks, who somewhere around mid season became 9 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 2: a juggernaut in the NFL. The Patriots survived the snow 10 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 2: and the Broncos in a low scoring, ugly, forgettable game, 11 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 2: and the Seahawks survived the Brahms, and I don't know, 12 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 2: you know, McVeigh did not have back to back with games. 13 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 2: I'm not going to kill McVeigh obviously, because he's an 14 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 2: outstanding coach. I don't know we can break it all down, 15 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,279 Speaker 2: but bottom line is this Seattle, New England Super Bowl. 16 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: And instantly I was like, oh, Rob g geez sell 17 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:15,199 Speaker 2: me on this Super Bowl and his hot take is, oh, yeah, 18 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 2: it's obvious Russell Wilson should have handed the ball off 19 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 2: to beast mode instead of throwing it on fourth down. 20 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, that's right again. I was so 21 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: locked in on the Rams beating the Seahawks that I 22 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 2: totally forgot about twenty fifteen January the Legion of Boom 23 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 2: against the New England Patriots and Tom brady whacky game 24 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 2: where Seattle's leading twenty four to fourteen. Yeah, twenty four 25 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: to fourteen. In the fourth Tom Brady against the best 26 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 2: defense in the L League, goes the length of the 27 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: field twice twice for touchdowns. Seattle comes all the way 28 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 2: back and has stopped on the doorstep. I've forgotten the 29 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 2: name of the guy who got the interception. Wait, give 30 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 2: me a second. No, it's not coming to me. Do 31 00:01:58,240 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 2: you know it? Offhand? 32 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 3: Rob would be Malcolm Butler. 33 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 2: There it is Malcolm Butler. Yes, much maligned Malcolm Butler. 34 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 2: He never did anything after that got the interception and 35 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 2: a memorable win for the Patriots twenty eight, twenty four. 36 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 2: I'll be shocked if this game matches that. But early 37 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,399 Speaker 2: line has it as Seattle minus three and a half. 38 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 2: Mine is four and a half. I am seeing a five. Obviously, 39 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 2: the Seattle defense is excellent, and Drake may has now 40 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: played three playoff games and looked beyond mid in all 41 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 2: of them. I mean, I know, well here it was 42 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 2: a snowstorm. He threw for eighty six yards. People, he 43 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 2: could put a ten foot passes in ten forward passes 44 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 2: in an NFL football game ten Jared Stidham aka Stitty, 45 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 2: which is such a bad nickname. He Stidham threw for 46 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 2: more yards and Drake May. I mean, if I told 47 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 2: you Drake May's playoff run, if I told you the 48 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 2: well against if I told you this, you know they're 49 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 2: in the super Bowl because they played three games. He 50 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 2: threw for uh fifty eight percent against the Chargers, fifty 51 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 2: nine percent against the Texans, forty seven percent against the Broncos. 52 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 2: His passing yardage two sixty eight one P seventy nine 53 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 2: eighty six. He's been sacked fifteen times now. He is 54 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 2: winning with his legs, which we got to give him 55 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 2: credit for. But nobody cares about Drake banded Patriots. We've 56 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 2: got to start with Seattle Rams. It's just it's a 57 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 2: tough loss as a Rams backer, as a Rams fan, 58 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 2: I don't want to just simply put it on the 59 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 2: muffed punt, and that is kind of poetic justice. Right 60 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: that this Rams team special teams ailed them throughout the season. 61 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 2: And bottom line is, you can't muff a punt there 62 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 2: to start the second half. You give up the touchdown 63 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 2: late first half, right, so you're down. Then Seattle gets 64 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 2: the ball first, you hold him and then you flub 65 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: the punt and now you're down twenty four to thirteen. 66 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 2: And from there they were just playing catch up. They 67 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: did score on the next two possessions. I'm watching it 68 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 2: at a buddy's house, faithful listener of the podcast. He's 69 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 2: a Lake Caer season ticket holder at a bunch of 70 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 2: people over and Seattle is up thirty one twenty six. 71 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 2: After the touchdown, I forget who caught that touchdown? Oh 72 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 2: it with the puka one in the in the corner. Yes, 73 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 2: So there was that idiotic penalty on third and twelve 74 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 2: by Tyreek Wohlan yelling at the Rams sideline, and so 75 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 2: they get the first down. Taunting. Next play, Stafford to 76 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: Puoka Tuddy thirty one twenty six and one of the 77 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 2: young kids, I think he's like a fourth gradinner. It's like, oh, 78 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 2: they should go for two to cut it to three, 79 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 2: and I'm like, kind of shocked that he would say 80 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:41,239 Speaker 2: something like that, and I'm like, ah, well, you know, buddy, 81 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: there's a whole fourth quarter left out it. You don't 82 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 2: want to chase points now if you if you don't 83 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 2: get it, you're done down five field goal later, does 84 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 2: you nothing? I can understand the sentiment. You're right, but 85 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 2: I think you just save that for the fourth quarter. 86 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 2: What didn't you know it? Zero points scored in the 87 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 2: fourth quarter. Now the Rams they cut it to thirty 88 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: one twenty seven, and Rob, this felt like the game. 89 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 2: The next time they got the ball, Stafford drives him 90 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 2: down the field on just an unbelievable drive and they 91 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 2: faced fourth and four from the six yard line, and 92 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 2: there's still four fifty four left in the game, so 93 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 2: five minutes. I think they had two timeouts left at 94 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 2: that point. And Rob, they had two choices. You go 95 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 2: for it, trailing by four, you need the touchdown, or 96 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 2: you kick the field goal and say, you know what, Yeah, 97 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 2: this is a Sam Donald's playing pretty damn good. But 98 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 2: on his last few drives here in the second half, 99 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 2: there were the last two drives well actually, yeah, last 100 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 2: drive was eight plays twenty nine yards. Before that they 101 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 2: had was in the third quarter, they had the short 102 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 2: for touchdown the seventeen yard one play, and then they 103 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 2: scored also after that, So I guess technically you could 104 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 2: be like, well, let's Donald's having the game of his life. 105 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 2: We can't cut what's the point of cutting it to 106 00:05:56,040 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: of cutting it to one? But in hindsight and again, 107 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 2: and you never know, maybe the Patriots the Seahawks changed 108 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 2: their play call sequencing after that on the next drive, 109 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 2: but the Rams got the ball back twenty five seconds left, 110 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 2: had to go ninety yards with no timeouts. Would that 111 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 2: would things have been different if they only had to 112 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 2: get to say the thirty five or the forties so 113 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 2: they could kick for the win. And you know, it 114 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 2: will debate it forever, but I thought that they had 115 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 2: a rough game against the Bears and bouncing back. I 116 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 2: maybe I'm playing the result fourth and four with the 117 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 2: MVP of the league, who played like an MVP. I mean, 118 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 2: everybody's saying how great Donald was. Donald was very good. 119 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 2: Three hundred and forty six yards, three touchdowns. Stafford threw 120 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 2: for three seventy four and three touchdowns on the road 121 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 2: and oh, by the way, Stafford, I could not believe 122 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 2: two carries sixteen yards, including one like slow motion fourth 123 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 2: down run that was like just unbelievable stuff. I was 124 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 2: impressed by both of them. Obviously, Donald's gonna get a 125 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 2: lot of the accolades, but I in hindsight, I kind 126 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 2: of wish McVeigh had kicked it there. Rob And I 127 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 2: know we're playing the result, but do you think that 128 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 2: was significant or it? Did the Rams really lose this 129 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 2: game on the punt return? 130 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 3: I mean, the punt return was a huge play. You 131 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 3: can't say that it wasn't. I also will argue that 132 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 3: the Rams lost the game by being unable to get 133 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 3: off the field on third down. I think Seattle went 134 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 3: seven of thirteen on third down, which is the money down. 135 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 3: So even though they all gained them by about a 136 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 3: hundred yards, and Matthew Stafford looked like the MVP, like, 137 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 3: you're not going to win a lot of games when 138 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 3: you lose a turnover battle and you're getting worked over 139 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 3: on third down like that. But to your point, I 140 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 3: even tweeted this during the game as it was happening. 141 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 3: What is it with the NFL coaches these days being 142 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 3: allergic to field goals like we saw that happen in 143 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 3: the previous game ended up being the difference with Sean 144 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 3: Payton didn't want to take the points early in the 145 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 3: second quarter when the weather was on their side, and 146 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 3: it's like they, yeah, and when you know that the 147 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 3: cold front and this blizzard is coming, Hey, we might 148 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 3: not be able to move the ball very much in 149 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 3: the second half when this thing really comes down. Thick, 150 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 3: let's get points while we can. And they didn't do it. 151 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 3: And Sean McVay, which is kind of goes against him. 152 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 3: Maybe the stat guys with something different, but it just 153 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 3: in my observation of him, and maybe it's anecdote. I 154 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 3: don't have the numbers in front of me, but I've 155 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 3: always thought that with him specifically, and Kyle Shanahan as well, 156 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 3: to a lesser degree, when they get to big moments, 157 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 3: they're usually conservative, like when they get laid in games, 158 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 3: they don't call like Clint Kobiak to pass his playofshould 159 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 3: try to get the first down, like their run milk clock, 160 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 3: run milk clock, run milk clock, and then we get 161 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 3: out of here. And on that play, I was expecting 162 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 3: kick the field goal. You're down by one, about four 163 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 3: and a half minutes left. You got all your time 164 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 3: outs plus two minute warning, plenty of time even they 165 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 3: get a first down, plenty of time to get a stop, 166 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 3: get the ball back with about a minute minute and 167 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 3: a half left and all you need is three and 168 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 3: for him to forego that was shocking to me. I 169 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 3: thought that that was a huge pivot point in the game. 170 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 2: I again, it's tough for us to go back and say, well, 171 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 2: I would have done this. Obviously whatever they choose did 172 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 2: not want work. It was a great game. I mean, again, 173 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 2: you cannot say that for the Patriots Broncos clunker, but 174 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 2: specifically Rob regarding Donald. Are you surprised by this, because 175 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 2: I gotta be honest, I did not see three hundred sorry, 176 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 2: three hundred and forty six yards three touchdowns. I saw 177 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 2: a wild stat The twenty eighteen NFL draft quarterback class 178 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 2: was loaded Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Baker Mayfield, Sam Donald 179 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 2: is the first quarterback from that class to get to 180 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. That's stunning. I mean, you could argue 181 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 2: that this is a massive indictment from the of the 182 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 2: Minnesota Vikings front office and they were all in the 183 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 2: clock for bailing on Donald. For JJ McCarthy. Now again, 184 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 2: you know you could even say this is a one 185 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 2: game from Donald where he was really really good, because 186 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 2: he wasn't great last week against the Niners. He had 187 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 2: a good season, but did kind of stub his toe 188 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 2: in some high profile games. I'll say this against the 189 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 2: Rams last time, he let a late drive. Remember he 190 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 2: had that brutal interception, but had a huge pivotal late 191 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 2: drive in overtime and the two pointer to win a game. 192 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 2: That was kind of a watershed moment where he maybe 193 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 2: exercised some demons and he's going to Super Bowl and 194 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 2: like he doesn't have a turnover in the postseason, Like, 195 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 2: who is this guy? I'm not gonna lie, I'm surprised. 196 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, how could you not be? I mean, look, Sam 197 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 3: Darnold coming into this game and now going to the 198 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 3: super Bowl led the NFL in turnovers, Like people don't 199 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 3: really remember that because they had such a good team 200 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 3: and they, you know, all the analytics love the Seahawks. 201 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 3: He had twenty giveaways in the regular said most of 202 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 3: the NFL. He is now the first quarterback since checks 203 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 3: notes Eli Manning in two thousand and seven to make 204 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 3: the Super Bowl the same season led the NFL in turnovers. 205 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 3: Of course, Eli Manning on the Super Bowl that year. 206 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 3: We'll see if Donald get it done as well. But 207 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 3: coming into the game, I mentioned the analytics loved Seattle 208 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 3: coming in like it wasn't even close if you follow 209 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 3: Dvoa and things like that, like, oh, this is hands 210 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 3: down Head and Shoulders the best team in football, and 211 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 3: it's surprising that nobody is picking them even though they 212 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 3: are the Vegas odds on favorite to win the Super Bowl. 213 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 3: And the reason why nobody was picking them on a 214 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 3: national level, at least outside of Seattle, was because nobody 215 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 3: believed that Sam Donald, of all people, could get it done. 216 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 3: Because history says famously, Sam Darnald's gonna see ghost. History 217 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 3: says that going back to last year against these Rams, 218 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,599 Speaker 3: sacked I think like eight times in the desert. The 219 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 3: game before that, it got to have a game for 220 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 3: the NFC North Championship, turns in his worst performance of 221 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 3: the season against the Lions, and so you're like, this 222 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,479 Speaker 3: is not going to end well for Seattle in the postseason. 223 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 3: Last week, a lot of people, not just you and 224 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 3: you know, smart people thought it was gonna come against 225 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 3: San Francisco. Yeah, right, Like he's already has a history 226 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 3: of not playing well in big games. He has an 227 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 3: oblique injury. He hasn't thrown the ball in two days. 228 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 3: That defense and that special teams was so nasty in 229 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 3: that game. He didn't have to do anything. So're like, okay, 230 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 3: well now you're you don't have that same excuse. This 231 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 3: is not going to happen two weeks in a row 232 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 3: where you don't have to do anything and your team 233 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 3: is gonna carry you to a super Bowl. And not 234 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 3: only did Sam Donald do more than nothing, he carried 235 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 3: a leaky defense. That defense, the vaunted defense, the top 236 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 3: five defense of the NFL. Matthew Stafford carved them up. 237 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 3: He looked every bit the MVP you would expect to see, 238 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 3: and yet he was just outgunned, outplayed by Sam frickin' Donald. 239 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 3: It's a great story. 240 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 241 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: the nation yet. Catch all of our shows at Fox 242 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: Sports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search 243 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: FSR to listen live. 244 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 2: It's wild you say that, Oh Seattle overwhelming. Everybody liked 245 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 2: him so more force downs rams twenty six to twenty four, 246 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 2: more yards rams four seventy nine to three ninety six. 247 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 2: So about an eighty yard difference yards per play. The 248 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 2: La Rams had eight point three yards per play. They 249 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 2: only face eight third downs and they weren't great on 250 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 2: third one and eight more passing yards, more rushing yards, 251 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 2: two for three in the red zone. That's efficient, but 252 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 2: they lost. The one turnover killed him. So this idea 253 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 2: that like Seattle is gonna is way better than the 254 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 2: I mean, that's just crazy. That's just crazy talk. This 255 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 2: was an even game the Rams that that that fourth 256 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 2: down decision, man, it's a killer. And the fubble punt 257 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,719 Speaker 2: which is on brand, I mean, I don't know, man, 258 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 2: it's just disappointing as a Rams fan. Do we have 259 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 2: to do anything on Broncos Patriots? Are we contractually obligated? 260 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 2: My daughter had a volleyball tournament and our first match 261 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 2: was against Kevin Garnett's daughter, the Big Ticket, and he 262 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 2: wasn't He's had a lot of these matches, but he 263 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 2: wasn't at the match for some reason. I was like, Oh, 264 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 2: he's probably at Derreck Roses thing in Chicago Saturday night 265 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 2: retirement Jersey. And I'm sure, because he's a Chicago guy, 266 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 2: I'm sure he's flying back on the private jet Lo 267 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 2: and behold, KG did show up later, you know, six eleven. 268 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 2: Nobody can miss him, and he's wearing the shades indoors 269 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 2: like a typical baller. So I was watching this game 270 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 2: on my phone, Broncos Patriots. I see the Broncos hit 271 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 2: a big play early from Stitty. I just think that's 272 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 2: such a goofy nickname, so I'm gonna use it from Stitty. 273 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 2: They go up seven nothing. Patriots can't do anything. First 274 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 2: three drives, they had twelve plays for twelve yards, and 275 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 2: then the Broncos get lucky and they drive in the 276 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 2: red zone up seven nothing, and I'm like, oh, Moore 277 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 2: than one kick the field goal, go up two scores 278 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 2: with this defense at home. Oh my gosh, it's a 279 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 2: no brainer. And they go for it incomplete and the 280 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 2: rest of the way, I mean, the Patriots absolutely dominated 281 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 2: this football game. Wasn't even close. Now, I will plead ignorance. Okay, 282 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 2: you guys don't have to do a lot of homework 283 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 2: on these games. I'm reading, I'm researching. I didn't see 284 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 2: anybody say a massive snowstorm is coming to this game 285 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 2: at halftime, Rob Did I miss that all week? Or 286 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 2: did this kind of come out of the Blue today. Now, 287 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 2: I didn't watch the pregame shows and I didn't have 288 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 2: audio for the first half, but when they were warming up, 289 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 2: it was sunny. 290 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that time laps. If you were watching the game, 291 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 3: where they said, hey, here's the five minute mark of 292 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 3: the first quarter, five minutes of the second, five minutes 293 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 3: of the third five and you just see it go 294 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 3: from sunny green Field there I was called Mile Highest, 295 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 3: not that how anymore, but Mile High Stadium is looking 296 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 3: beautiful in Denver, and then you get to the fourth 297 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 3: quarter and it looks like you didn't pay you your 298 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 3: cable bill because it's all snowy, and I'm. 299 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 2: Sure everybody know it was coming. 300 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 3: I think they knew that there was going to be 301 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 3: a cold front. To your point, like you, I was 302 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 3: watching the game. I phoned for the first half, so 303 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 3: I didn't have the volume up as well. But I 304 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 3: have to assume that when it gets that cold and snowy, 305 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 3: that they had to have known, you know, a couple 306 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 3: hours for the game, like, hey, there's a good chance 307 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 3: that we're going to be covered by this blizzard here 308 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 3: relatively quickly. Now, I had known coming into it's a 309 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 3: Sunday's game that there was going to be some activity. 310 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 3: I didn't know it was gonna be that bad though. 311 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 2: Yeah it was. It was quite brutal. And so after 312 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 2: they missed that fourth down conversion, this is how bad 313 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 2: it was for Denver. They went six plays minus five yards. 314 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 2: Fumble set up the Patriots with a twelve yard touchdown drive, 315 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 2: five plays fourteen yards punt, five plays fifteen yards, missed 316 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 2: field goal, three plays sixteen yards, six yards, punt, three yards, punt, 317 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 2: seventeen yards punt, five plays missed field goal, folks, one 318 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 2: play interception. After they missed the field goal. They did 319 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 2: not drive the ball more than twenty yards the rest 320 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 2: of the game. That's how bad it was. Listen, I 321 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,199 Speaker 2: know people are beating them on Mcday. This was a 322 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 2: chip shot for the Broncos. Is their kicker, Will Lutts. 323 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 2: Isn't that their kicker? Oh my gosh, I cannot believe 324 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 2: they passed so that now it's even worse looking. Will 325 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 2: LUTs is one of the top ten kickers in the 326 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 2: league this year. You go up to nothing there, you're 327 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 2: in great chat. They couldn't move the ball the rest 328 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 2: of the game, and it devolved into just this ugly 329 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 2: gross game. I mean the Rams had when I say 330 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 2: four hundred, yeah, they definitely had more offense than these 331 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 2: two combined. These two combined had three hundred and eighty 332 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 2: seven yards of offense. That's it, three point two yards 333 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 2: per play. I was digging into this box score. So 334 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 2: the Broncos had one play over fifteen yards and it 335 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 2: was that bombed to Mims. Nothing else down the field, nothing, 336 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 2: all this talk about how Stidham and blah blah blah, 337 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 2: No he didn't. I mean every if you bet every 338 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 2: single Stidham under you cash like a champ. And now, 339 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 2: but then it comes to the Patriots and it's like 340 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 2: they had two plays over twenty yards, both to MATC. Collins. 341 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 2: That's it. 342 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 3: They couldn't do anything. 343 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 2: So the Patriots, I'll say this, they faced Jesse Minter's defense, survived, 344 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 2: they faced Dimico Ryan's defense survived mostly thinks to CJ. Stroud, 345 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 2: and then they faced this Vance Joseph defense, which was excellent, 346 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 2: and they just survive in Advance. And now they go 347 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 2: up against I don't know, arguably another top five defense 348 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 2: in Seattle. The problem is Seattle actually is an offense 349 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 2: unlike those other teams. They're all deeply flawed offensively right, 350 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 2: justin Herbert Harbor. Justin Herbert did not have an offensive 351 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 2: tackle or an offensive line in that game. CJ. Stroud 352 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 2: is on no, Nico Collins was missing, Bo Nicks was 353 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 2: out for the Broncos. And then now Seattle is a 354 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 2: full fledged offense, they'll be fine. And I think, I 355 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 2: mean my pick is gonna be Seattle. I don't know 356 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 2: you said blowout, Rob, you think you think Seattle really works? 357 00:18:56,280 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 3: These guys, Oh my gosh, to quote the Lake even 358 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:01,959 Speaker 3: though he is with us, Rob Parker, he's gonna work 359 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 3: him over like a burger and fries. Like I'm surprised 360 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 3: when we saw the early look aheadlines. I know we'll 361 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 3: get into this for the next two weeks. I don't 362 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 3: want to be labored the point, but I think you 363 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 3: mentioned that I see three and a half four and 364 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 3: a half, you know right now, depending on where you shop. 365 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 3: I was like, how is this not seven? Immediately? And 366 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 3: if I saw seven on the board at ten fifty 367 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 3: one pm Eastern on Sunday night, I would jump over 368 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 3: there and say, hey, give me the plus minus seven, 369 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 3: Like if it got up to eight and a half, 370 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 3: I'd probably sol good about it. There is nothing that 371 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 3: you saw on Sunday or anything you saw in this 372 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 3: postseason at all that would lead you to believe that 373 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 3: this current New England Patriots team can hang with either 374 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 3: one of those NFC teams. Okay, I have a take. 375 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 3: I'm gonna build up to it. Okay, so let me 376 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 3: start here. The New England Patriots. We all know they 377 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 3: played the softest schedule in the league. Combined one percent 378 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 3: of their opponents was three ninety one, by far the 379 00:19:55,880 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 3: lowest in football. Okay. In round one, they get Justin 380 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 3: Herbert on a broken hand down his offensive basically his 381 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 3: entire offensive line, so it wasn't even close. Round two 382 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 3: they get the Houston Texans. Great defense in Houston, but 383 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 3: their offense was challenged already, and that was before they 384 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 3: were down Nico Collins and then CJ. Stroud turns into 385 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 3: a JV quarterback. Round three they get Jared Stidham, who 386 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 3: has not taken a meaningful snap in over two calendar years. Okay, 387 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 3: here's some numbers for you. The New England Patriots offense 388 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 3: averaged eighteen point zero points per game in the postseason, 389 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 3: the fewest by any team to make the Super Bowl 390 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 3: since nineteen seventy nine. Wow okay. Now you might say, well, 391 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 3: they may be able to play two games, and that's 392 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 3: why here we go. Fewest points scored in the wild card, 393 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 3: Divisional and Conference championship games combined en route to a 394 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 3: Super Bowl appearance number three the two thousand and seven 395 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 3: Giants at sixty eight, Number two, the two thousand Ravens 396 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 3: at sixty one, and number one. The gold medal is 397 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 3: the twenty twenty five New England Patriots. Fifty four the 398 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 3: Baltimore Ravens, who have a reputation of being all defense, 399 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 3: no offense, all breaks, no gas. Remember like, hey, if 400 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 3: Trent dilferd can get a Super Bowl, then anybody can 401 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 3: get a Super Bowl. 402 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 403 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 3: They scored a touchdown more than the New England Patriots 404 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 3: this season. Drake May, I know that this is good, 405 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 3: that he's winning, and you know, get the Drake may 406 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 3: like the truthers are out in full force. He has 407 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 3: won two playoff games when his team has scored sixteen 408 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 3: or fewer points already in just three starts. For context, 409 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 3: Tom Brady only did that twice in forty eight starts. Wow, okay, 410 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 3: teams record went scoring under seventeen points, Justin Herbert in 411 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 3: his career two and sixteen, Joe Burrow one to ten, 412 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 3: Josh Allen four nineteen, Lamar Jackson three and seven, Drake 413 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 3: May two to zero in the goddamn playoff. This is up, 414 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 3: for my money, this is the pulmulating at this point, 415 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 3: at best, one of the five worst teams to make 416 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 3: the Super Bowl in my adult lifetime. At they might 417 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 3: even be the worst team to make the playoffs in 418 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 3: my adult life. Like they're right up there with the 419 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 3: two thousand Giants that got blown out by the Ravens 420 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 3: I just talked about. They're right up there with I mean, 421 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 3: I might say that the like O three Panthers, and 422 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 3: then after that it's like, well, let's kind of a. 423 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 2: Wah three Panthers. 424 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 3: Who the hell they jake the lone Panthers. But at 425 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 3: least that team, for all their faults, had a fantastic 426 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 3: running game, and they were able to steamroll their way 427 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 3: into the to the super Bowl throughout the postseason like 428 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 3: they had some things to break their way, like any 429 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 3: team does. But I can't recall any NFL team that 430 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 3: makes the Super Bowl looking that horrid offensively in the playoffs. 431 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's why I opened by saying this is 432 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,479 Speaker 2: a tough sell, man. I mean you, I don't care 433 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 2: if you're a Patriot outside of New England, Like, where's 434 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 2: the juice outside of Seattle? I mean maybe you get 435 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 2: some man, I love the Sam Darnold story. Okay, that's 436 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 2: not great. You get pockets of JSN fans, like the 437 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 2: defense is a grouping that's incredible. There's no Miles Garrett 438 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 2: on this defense, right, I just like even the Patriots defense. 439 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 2: Wh who's the most famous guy on the Patriots defense, 440 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 2: Christian Gonzales for two years, he's always like, there just 441 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 2: isn't a lot of juice. And again, I know who cares. 442 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 2: The ratings are gonna be great. Well, obviously it's the 443 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 2: super Bowl. The radies are always gonna be great. I'm 444 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,959 Speaker 2: talking about the next two weeks. Nobody is the Pro 445 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 2: Bowl still a thing. I don't even know if the 446 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,719 Speaker 2: Pro Bowl weekend what it is. I don't care. But like, 447 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 2: we've got to talk about the Super Bowl for two 448 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 2: weeks and it's like, oh, yeah, there's not a lot here. 449 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 2: Like when Mahomes first made it, he was the MVP 450 00:23:59,400 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 2: that year. 451 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 3: Remember mm hmm. 452 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,239 Speaker 2: Right, year two, I think he was well. 453 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 3: I think he made the I think he won the 454 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 3: MP the first year, and then the. 455 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 2: Second oh when they lost to the Anty championship, yeah okay, 456 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 2: and then the second year was like, oh well, mahomes, 457 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 2: this is back to back. This guy's for real. He's 458 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 2: got He's got next. 459 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 3: He's the one. Yeah, he's the one who got to 460 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 3: pay attention to. 461 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 2: Does anybody think Drake May's got next? 462 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 3: Nope? But I think he's not a playoff performance. 463 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 2: I think he's really good. Could he be, like, I mean, 464 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 2: what's the ceiling over under half an MVP for Joe 465 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 2: for Drake May? Actually no, I I got to do 466 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 2: one and a half because he might steal it this year. 467 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 3: I'll take the ender. 468 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 2: I probably would. I just don't like. He's really good. 469 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 2: But he's not Joe Burrow. Let's be real. He's not 470 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 2: Joe burtw Do you think he could be? No, he 471 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 2: certainly is in Josh Allen. I mean, and listen, maybe 472 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 2: he grows into that, because it's only we're two years in, right, 473 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 2: maybe he becomes a perennial MVP candidate. I do think 474 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 2: he's got a lot of talent, but he's kind of boring. 475 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: You know. 476 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 2: It's like we're at the point where people are following 477 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 2: his girlfriend's Instagram and commenting on her videos about how 478 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 2: they love her husband. You know, like that, Like I 479 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 2: don't know Rob, I don't want to prove. 480 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 3: Well, j Mac, you were started off this recapping this 481 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 3: game by making fun of Jared Stidham's nickname Stitty. Real 482 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 3: ones of the podcast know what Drake May's. 483 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 2: Nickname is, Drake Drake May May. 484 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 3: Yes, his nickname is his name. That goes to tell 485 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 3: you all the star power that we got into this game. 486 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 3: Like it again, We're gonna talk about it for two 487 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 3: weeks and I don't want to get bogged down here, 488 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 3: but I promise you, America, when you watch and consume 489 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 3: sports media, television, sports media, podcast, radio, whatever to Instagram, 490 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 3: at least half of the build up to this Super 491 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:59,199 Speaker 3: Bowl is going to be related to Russell Wilson through 492 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 3: an interception at the line Tom Brady beats him in 493 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 3: the Super Bowl. Should have handed into Marshaun Lynch because 494 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 3: nobody is going to be able to sell you on 495 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 3: the Sam Donald redemption story longer than about ten minutes 496 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 3: and as good as Drake may was in the regular season, 497 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 3: he has been terrible in the playoffs. So what's the 498 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 3: selling point. 499 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you could try to get mackerel in 500 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 2: the league and say, Mike Vrabel defensive head coach, Mike 501 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 2: McDonald defensive head coach. Has the league pivoted away from 502 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 2: this offensive orgy that we've seen over the last decade 503 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 2: where it's pass past pass, throw the ball to win, 504 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 2: And now it's like, well, actually, don't make mistakes and 505 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 2: let your defense carry you and you know, play the 506 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 2: two high shell. Don't give up any big plays. I mean, 507 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 2: then again, the Rams, you know again eight point three 508 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 2: yards per play, they were just mowing down the field. 509 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 2: Maybe are we are we pivoting toward a defensive league? Again? 510 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 2: Now some of this is weather related, right, Obviously that 511 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 2: Denver game, you know, it didn't sniff the over forty two. 512 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 2: I mean, they had like three or four missfield goals. 513 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 2: But nevertheless, it could just be maybe this is an oddity, 514 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 2: right because we have Mahomes down, Lamar was injured, Burrow 515 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 2: was injured, and so your your better offenses around the league, 516 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 2: Your star quarterbacks didn't even make the playoffs. Are they 517 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 2: all back next year. I don't know. I actually think 518 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 2: this is going to be the start of a weird 519 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 2: cycle because of those quarterback contracts. They're so highly compensated 520 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 2: that you look like Buffalo's defense. They can't build a 521 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 2: great defense, not with paying Josh Allen a billion dollars. 522 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 2: Look at the Ravens defense. They just got shredded by 523 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers of all people in Week eighteen. Oh you know, 524 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow hasn't had a defense for a few years now. 525 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 2: So I don't know, man, I gotta be honest. I'm uh, 526 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 2: I'm not like excited about the super Bowl and neffol listen, 527 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 2: I have to keep it one hundred. If it were 528 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 2: a Fox super Bowl, I'd be like, oh, I'm so 529 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 2: excited for the super Bowl because I'm fuck it, Fox employee. 530 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 2: That's just how it is. That's the reality. You're not 531 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,719 Speaker 2: gonna hear NBC people keeping a reel like I am 532 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 2: right now. You know, there is a keeping it too 533 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 2: real where you put your job at Jeopardy and then 534 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 2: you know your family doesn't have any money. 535 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 1: And anyways, Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk 536 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at 537 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: Foxsports Radio dot Com and within the iHeartRadio app search 538 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: FSR to listen live. 539 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 2: Honestly, this weekend, Rob, I was so distraught in the 540 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:32,919 Speaker 2: NBA with the whole Yannis calf injury, Like he's on 541 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 2: the show for four to six weeks, and I'm like, 542 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 2: are you freaking serious? So now Yannis, Rob, there's no 543 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 2: way he gets traded. Who's trading for a guy with 544 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 2: a calf injury. That's just not happening. 545 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 3: You're setting up, You're not giving up premium assets if 546 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 3: you don't know if he's gonna be available for you 547 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 3: in the home stressed? 548 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I I mean we already Sawrey Trey 549 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,719 Speaker 2: Young get dealt right. It increasingly Anthony Davis not going 550 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 2: to get traded because of his injury. I don't know 551 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 2: what they do with Ja Morant in Memphis. 552 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 3: He's hurt too. 553 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 2: Now what happened to him? I didn't see it. 554 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 3: I think he heard his elbow. 555 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 2: Jeez, oh yeah, you're right here it is John Morant. 556 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 2: They're both gonna be injured through the deadline. M oh Man, 557 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 2: So now we're not gonna. 558 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 3: Really so mean, then again, the people who are in 559 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 3: the market for John Morant, I don't think our contenders. 560 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 3: So you could still trade for him if you wanted 561 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 3: to have him for later on. But if you're trading 562 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 3: for Giannis's because you think you can win a championship, now. 563 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean interesting. I want to I want to 564 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 2: say that there will still be movement around the deadline 565 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 2: because I mean, Rob, you know, you look at who's 566 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 2: leading the East, the Detroit Pistons by five and a 567 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 2: half games. If we're being honest with ourselves and you're 568 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 2: the Detroit GM and you look yourself from the mirror 569 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 2: and say, all right, guys, we're leading the East. You 570 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 2: remember who was leading the East last year, Rob, Cleveland Cavaliers. 571 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 2: How many people were telling you fools? 572 00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 3: Gold? 573 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 2: What happened in the playoffs? Lost second round? I'm yeah, 574 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 2: second round? I'm pretty sure. 575 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 3: Right. 576 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 2: Wait, who did they lose to? It was nixt Oh yeah, 577 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 2: it was Justin Not Justin Jalen Brunson beat them with 578 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 2: the clutch Nest. So you look at this Detroit Ross, 579 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 2: I mean, do you think this is like a team 580 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 2: going to the finals? 581 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 3: For sure? 582 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 2: A team that couldn't. I think they've got to upgrade somewhere. 583 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 2: The problem is I don't know how you do it 584 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 2: without disrupting chemistry. So like that's one of these tough decisions. Hey, 585 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 2: the Cavs didn't do it, Rob, Remember last year they 586 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 2: stood pat Oh no, they got DeAndre Hunter, which was 587 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 2: a small, nice little move, didn't do it in the playoffs, 588 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 2: And now they're fifth in the East and I don't 589 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 2: think anybody thinks they're a legit contender. Then you get 590 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 2: to Toronto Raptors. Okay, is there a whiff of Hey 591 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 2: remember when we were close in the East with Lowry 592 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 2: and de Rosen and we went all in and went 593 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 2: for Kawhi Leonard. Remember that? Yeah, that worked out for us. 594 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 2: Do they roll the dice and make a play for 595 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 2: the Sixers are looking kind of good? Do they make 596 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 2: a move? Do the Knicks and carlingtimes? I think most 597 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 2: of the people that would trade her in the East 598 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 2: because the West has so many injuries. Nuggets have injuries, 599 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 2: Rockets have injuries. Lakers were waiting on Austin Reeves. Okay, see, 600 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 2: I think had an injury over the weekend, Rob, Did 601 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 2: they not? Or maybe I know? 602 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 3: Jalen Willis has been in and out of the lineup. 603 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 3: He's been kind of banged up. So yeah, I don't 604 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 3: know if that was over the weekend. I've been so 605 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 3: consumed with football. 606 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 2: But yeah, and those choking dogs in Okay see lose 607 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 2: to Toronto. I believe was that today or yesterday? Yeah? 608 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,959 Speaker 2: So okay, see, listen, they're not great. If I'm Detroit, 609 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 2: I make a move, We'll obviously do plenty on the 610 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 2: trade deadline. Yeah, I don't think okay, SE's insurmountable. Hell, listen, 611 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 2: if the Lakers get the right draw and everybody's healthy, 612 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 2: I'm not ruling out anything, Rob, and I know you're 613 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 2: not either. Oh, Jonathan Kumingo was the other guy, was 614 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 2: thinking he got injured over the weekend and they don't 615 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 2: know what his future is gonna be. So I don't know, Rob. 616 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 2: Where are you on the on the NBA after this weekend? 617 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 2: Were you just recalibrating after NFL. 618 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 3: Mostly the latter You know, obviously part of my job 619 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 3: has got to find a way to make this Super 620 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 3: Bowl interesting. So I've been racking my brain ever since 621 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 3: you know, what was it four pm? Pacific? Once I 622 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 3: knew that I had to sell Drake May in the 623 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 3: Super Bowl against one of these behemoths. It's gonna be tough, 624 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 3: but yeah, I mean, obviously I'm focused on the Lakers. 625 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 3: I mean, how can you not be. You have Lebron 626 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 3: James passive aggressive, you know, comments of the media about 627 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 3: how he doesn't care about Genie Bust and what happened 628 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 3: to that story, and you know, now he's saying, hey, 629 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 3: you know this is Lucas team, and Baba, like, you 630 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 3: sure don't act that way all the time, buddy. And 631 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 3: so we'll see if they can make a move, because 632 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 3: suddenly the Oklahoma city doesn't look like the Juggernauts that 633 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 3: they thought they could they would be. And Denver is 634 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 3: you know, I know Yoga is coming back soon, but 635 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 3: they have an injury bug that's hit them pretty hard. 636 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 3: Houston's nowhere near as good as we thought they were. 637 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 3: So maybe my Lakers, if they can make a shrewd 638 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 3: move or two ahead of the deadline, maybe they can 639 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 3: make some noise. 640 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, So super Bowl is set. NFL betting largely done, 641 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 2: although there'll be props galore for the Super Bowl, assuming 642 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 2: I have any money left. Freakin' Rams Broncos over let 643 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 2: me down. I mean, it's just like, come on, I 644 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 2: can't I need to recreate the regular season magic. I'm 645 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 2: just gonna go all into college basketball, Rob, I gotta, 646 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 2: I gotta, I gotta figure this one out, so at 647 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 2: least there's something to work toward. All right, thanks for listening. 648 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 2: We are back Maniana. See then,