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Speaker 2: Call from Amy.
Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Hi, Amy, what's going down? Amy? Am I
Speaker 1: on the speakerphone right now?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: You are sorry, I'm outside.
Speaker 1: Can you take me off the speakerphone place?
Speaker 2: Let me try I gotta find some headphones to do that.
Speaker 1: I mean, you, guys, what do you mean? Just you
Speaker 1: just take me off speakerphone and you put it you
Speaker 1: the way that people used to do phones is just
Speaker 1: put it up to their ear.
Speaker 2: Well, I know, but I'm on a laptop right now.
Speaker 1: You're right, you're calling me on a laptop.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my phone was dying.
Speaker 1: Why are you going to? Where are you right now?
Speaker 1: Are you at a house?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're in Mississippi near the beach.
Speaker 1: Okay, can you go inside?
Speaker 2: I'm inside?
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: What's up Amy? How you doing? What's going on with you?
Speaker 1: How's life?
Speaker 2: It's pretty wild. I'm actually here with my best friend.
Speaker 2: We were calling because we actually got dumped two weeks
Speaker 2: apart from each other, and that was just a real
Speaker 2: bonding experience.
Speaker 1: Okay, So is this is this like girls weekend? Like
Speaker 1: we're both we're both freshly single, going to go out
Speaker 1: to the beach and party type vibes. I can't I
Speaker 1: can only hear one of you guys.
Speaker 2: Oh that was Brent. So yeah, we're just trying to
Speaker 2: have a good, good girls.
Speaker 1: Week Okay, how we're both of the breakups like bad?
Speaker 1: Were they hard breakups? Or were they?
Speaker 2: Yeah? It was brutal.
Speaker 1: What made them brutal?
Speaker 4: One of them packed his stuff the night before and
Speaker 4: just did not want to tell me that he did
Speaker 4: not want to live there anymore and just left wall.
Speaker 1: He packed his stuff the night before. He did he
Speaker 1: ever tell you that he didn't want to live there.
Speaker 2: He told me in the morning.
Speaker 1: That's kind of smart, to be completely honest.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's so rude.
Speaker 1: Well when that doesn't that make sense when you want
Speaker 1: to pack up. Look, here's the thing is, if you're
Speaker 1: moving out, like, wouldn't you want to pack up all
Speaker 1: your stuff first and then tell them that you're moving
Speaker 1: out before you know? Because we've all seen the like
Speaker 1: in the movies where somebody will like, you know, like
Speaker 1: there's a guy like standing on the street and then
Speaker 1: like a girl like throwing all this stuff out the window.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: See, that was basically my situation.
Speaker 1: Who am I talking to? I can only hear one
Speaker 1: of you guys.
Speaker 2: Well, this is Amy Now, Yeah, I kind of did
Speaker 2: the whole throwing stuff off the porch thing.
Speaker 1: Wait, so you threw his stuff off the porch?
Speaker 2: It was a girl stuff. Uh, we hadn't been living together.
Speaker 2: We had broken up and then got back together, and
Speaker 2: then I just had some possessions still, and I got
Speaker 2: dumped over text while I was in a COVID quarantine.
Speaker 2: So I just kind of freaked out and threw everything
Speaker 2: in the yard.
Speaker 1: So it sounds like the guy who packed his stuff
Speaker 1: up beforehand kind of had the right idea.
Speaker 2: I you know, I can't really disagree with you that
Speaker 2: it was a good method.
Speaker 1: Okay, So so I'm gonna I'm gonna live. I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna talk. Can you Can you put me on a phone,
Speaker 1: by the way, can I or know you're on your laptop?
Speaker 5: Fuck it?
Speaker 1: Who cares?
Speaker 6: All?
Speaker 1: Right, So your breakup was over text and you had COVID,
Speaker 1: and so you threw all of this stuff out. So
Speaker 1: why did you throw all of his stuff all out
Speaker 1: of the window.
Speaker 2: It wasn't the window, it was the porch. But I
Speaker 2: just was like, we've already broken up once before. I
Speaker 2: don't need to like be sentimental. I just need to
Speaker 2: like get this stuff out of my face, because if
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be trapped in my house alone, I can't
Speaker 2: be trapped in my house alone with a bunch of
Speaker 2: stuff that reminds me of a bad time.
Speaker 1: Did you just like leave it out on the porch?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 1: What kind of stuff was it?
Speaker 2: Like clothes and dishes from each other's house? And like,
Speaker 2: oh jeez, I.
Speaker 8: Don't really know.
Speaker 2: We like had cats, so there was like some cats supplies.
Speaker 1: Did you how the cat food out?
Speaker 2: Not cat food? There's like a cat carrier And I
Speaker 2: kind of feel bad because it was like covered in pea,
Speaker 2: but it was covered in her cat's peace, So like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, I only felt bad because I was
Speaker 2: supposed to clean it and then I just kind of
Speaker 2: threw all her stuff on top of a cat feed carrier.
Speaker 2: Not intentional though.
Speaker 1: So how long were you guys to go together before that?
Speaker 2: Like two years?
Speaker 7: All right?
Speaker 1: How did they react to use throwing this is is
Speaker 1: your girlfriend your ex girlfriend?
Speaker 2: Ex girlfriend? But at that point we had gotten back
Speaker 2: together kind of after a few months, and we never
Speaker 2: like really said if we were like girlfriends again or not.
Speaker 1: How did how did she react to you throwing her
Speaker 1: stuff out of the on the porch.
Speaker 2: I don't think she knew because a lot of friends
Speaker 2: and just like helped me take stuff to her. I
Speaker 2: think she might have picked up some of this stuff.
Speaker 2: I think I might have put it in trash bags
Speaker 2: once it was outside. I can't remember. I was really sick.
Speaker 2: Like that whole week was just a total blurk.
Speaker 1: So so both of these ended badly.
Speaker 7: Yeah, all right?
Speaker 1: How old are you guys? Uh?
Speaker 2: Twenty three and twenty one?
Speaker 1: Okay? What what is your plan for the week? Are
Speaker 1: you like going bar hopping? Are you so? Okay? Let
Speaker 1: me ask you a question about this weekend? Is this
Speaker 1: weekend or it's fucking Monday? But whatever? Is every I
Speaker 1: don't every every every day is day? All right? So
Speaker 1: this trip not this weekend? This trip? Is this a
Speaker 1: like is this a going out to get laid trip?
Speaker 1: Or is this like a going to forget?
Speaker 2: I didn't say it, but she said it on the
Speaker 2: way up here. She goes, I think our only goal
Speaker 2: should be eating crawfish and getting laid, And I was like,
Speaker 2: I can't like argue with you on that point.
Speaker 1: Nice crawfish and pussy the only things on the menu.
Speaker 2: You know, I could I could get down with that.
Speaker 2: I feel like I here about seafood?
Speaker 1: So are you? What are you do?
Speaker 4: You?
Speaker 1: Guys?
Speaker 7: Like?
Speaker 1: Where is this again? You're in Florida?
Speaker 2: Almost like we're in Mississippi, like just kind of in
Speaker 2: the Delta area.
Speaker 1: What is that where you guys? Do you guys live
Speaker 1: in Mississippi?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Okay, why hold on? Why did you pick Mississippi.
Speaker 2: To go vac family? My family lives down here.
Speaker 1: Okay are you living?
Speaker 6: Are you?
Speaker 1: Wait? Is your dog sitting for your family? So your
Speaker 1: family's not there?
Speaker 2: No, they're not there.
Speaker 1: Okay. I feel like yeah, because I feel like Mississippi
Speaker 1: is not the greatest going out to get laid vacation place, but.
Speaker 2: Not New Orleans.
Speaker 1: Oh you guys, are you guys going to gonna gonna
Speaker 1: go to New Orleans as part of the trip?
Speaker 4: Yees?
Speaker 2: Just today?
Speaker 1: Just today? What what are you gonna do in New Orleans?
Speaker 2: We like spooky stuff, so we'll probably check that out
Speaker 2: and eat vignets and uh, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Probably get drunk that watch out for STDs. There's probably
Speaker 1: some gnarly stuff flowing around there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you both said I hadn't use it.
Speaker 2: Get tested.
Speaker 1: Okay, so what did you so you you two broke
Speaker 1: up at the same time. That was nice. Did you
Speaker 1: did you emotionally support each other?
Speaker 2: Yes, like a lot.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 2: It was messy, but it was cute for us to
Speaker 2: have each other at least.
Speaker 1: I mean, well, oka, way, so I'm talking to you,
Speaker 1: let me talk. Give the laptop to what Brianna is
Speaker 1: her name? When let me give the laptop to Brent.
Speaker 1: How was your breakup? I only heard about it through
Speaker 1: and I mean you guys, I have no idea which
Speaker 1: of you was talking, but.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we have very similar voices. It was interesting. We
Speaker 4: had a puppy and everything together and he had just
Speaker 4: woke up one day and he was like, I can't
Speaker 4: do this anymore and just walked out, and I was
Speaker 4: okay bye. That was like literally the first thing he
Speaker 4: said in the morning.
Speaker 1: It was like, okay, damn. So did you have no
Speaker 1: idea that he was even remotely feeling like that?
Speaker 4: Not really, I mean I had a little bit of
Speaker 4: an idea, but I didn't think it was that bad.
Speaker 2: Let me just say, as a best friend, I knew
Speaker 2: it was going to happen into it really.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 1: So so so first of all, okay, tell me your
Speaker 1: what you said. You had a little idea, What where
Speaker 1: where did that little idea come from? What did he
Speaker 1: do to give you that little idea?
Speaker 4: We had gotten into a fight some months before and
Speaker 4: he was trying to light to me about something and
Speaker 4: I had called him out on it, and then he
Speaker 4: was trying to light to me about it again, and
Speaker 4: then I like I was like fuck you dude, like
Speaker 4: stop it. And then like after that, I had a feeling.
Speaker 4: I was like, Oh, I messed up, And yeah.
Speaker 1: But what was he lying to you about? Oh, did
Speaker 1: you want to share?
Speaker 4: I didn't even remember what it was.
Speaker 2: It was just something stupid, okay.
Speaker 1: And then uh, Amy, you had a you you you
Speaker 1: knew it was going on. You had far more than
Speaker 1: an inkling of an idea.
Speaker 5: What gave you the.
Speaker 1: What gave you the strong confidence that that this was impending?
Speaker 2: I don't know. We just both talked about each other's relationships,
Speaker 2: like really openly, and there was just the way that
Speaker 2: she talked about one fight that they had that like
Speaker 2: I just kind of like, this is hurting you on
Speaker 2: a different.
Speaker 5: Level.
Speaker 2: It was just obviously striking a chord with her that
Speaker 2: I hadn't really seen before, and we get like very
Speaker 2: emo together, so like, I don't know, I could just
Speaker 2: tell something was different this time.
Speaker 1: Hm hmm. Do you feel like that has this has
Speaker 1: this girl's weekend to Missouri been therapeutic so far.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it has been.
Speaker 1: Yes, what the fun? What is there? Where? Where in
Speaker 1: Missouri is like southern?
Speaker 5: I don't.
Speaker 1: Oh Mississippi?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Are they? They're the same place, aren't they.
Speaker 2: I mean there's a lot of nothing in both.
Speaker 1: So there's a seven eleven. Look, all I'm saying is
Speaker 1: in Missouri right now, there are two girls named Jamie
Speaker 1: and Flynn. Yeah, and they're broke up with their boyfriends
Speaker 1: who also have similar names, and they're doing the exact
Speaker 1: same thing. That's how similar Missouri and Mississippi are. The
Speaker 1: Missouri people, they're gonna go on a crazy bender in Columbus, Ohio.
Speaker 2: Damn.
Speaker 4: Columbus. Why.
Speaker 1: I don't know why for any of anything that I say?
Speaker 6: Ever?
Speaker 1: What? What's? What? Huh? Do you are you? Are you
Speaker 1: looking for love or just just blind passion? And you
Speaker 1: guys keep saying things in Unison. Both of you guys
Speaker 1: are not looking for love, You're just looking for passion
Speaker 1: this weekend?
Speaker 7: Sure, Okay?
Speaker 1: What are you open to love? Or have you closed
Speaker 1: yourself off to it?
Speaker 2: It's only been like three months and that's like after
Speaker 2: three years of loving Somebody's like, I don't know I'm
Speaker 2: probably not ready for that, but it's cool if it happens,
Speaker 2: I guess. Yeah, same here for the most part.
Speaker 1: Well, you know what I think. I think you guys
Speaker 1: don't need to look for love because I think you
Speaker 1: have it right here. You seem to have a deep
Speaker 1: love for each other. Yeah, that's beautiful. I think I
Speaker 1: think it's good that you're leaning into that. This is like,
Speaker 1: you know, because that's the thing, or I can just
Speaker 1: tell here's the thing. The fact that you guys are
Speaker 1: on a girl's trip to Mississippi. It's Mississippi, right, it's
Speaker 1: not Missouri. Yeah, it's okay. The fact that you guys
Speaker 1: are on a girl's trip to Mississippi and then you're
Speaker 1: still out here with the you know, going out to
Speaker 1: get laid, going out, the party mindset, whatever it is all.
Speaker 1: You know what it means. It means that all you
Speaker 1: guys need to have a party, to go crazy, to
Speaker 1: live your best life easy each other, And it doesn't
Speaker 1: even matter that you're in Mississippi.
Speaker 2: So real, I'm gonna cry it. Yeah, I think it
Speaker 2: kind of does matter.
Speaker 1: No, it matters a little bit. But well, is there
Speaker 1: anything else you guys want to say to the people
Speaker 1: of the computer before we go. Any final thoughts on
Speaker 1: any of this.
Speaker 2: Thank you all, practice safe, suck, go, get tested, don't cheat. Uh,
Speaker 2: give your pets some love for me. That's all.
Speaker 1: Take care, get blessed.
Speaker 2: Bless you too.
Speaker 1: I don't know somebody, I'm gonna get a d M
Speaker 1: from somebody in Mississippi being like, no, we have a bar.
Speaker 1: It's called Shuckers and it's corn themed and I got
Speaker 1: laid there last week. And you know what, I'm sure
Speaker 1: whoever dms me that is telling the truth. And I
Speaker 1: gotta go.
Speaker 6: All from Forest.
Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Hi, who is this?
Speaker 6: This is Forest?
Speaker 1: How you doing Forrest?
Speaker 6: I'm all right?
Speaker 7: How are you.
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 1: What's going on with you? Uh?
Speaker 6: Not much? I just finished a six hour shift and
Speaker 6: I'm waiting for my partner to come over.
Speaker 1: Well, a six hour shift doing what.
Speaker 6: I make momoothies. I work at Dumba Juice.
Speaker 1: I've never been a big Jamba juice sky.
Speaker 6: It's honestly, I don't blame you. It's a lot of
Speaker 6: sugar and a lot of sweet. But if you get
Speaker 6: our plant based stuff, I love all that. It's just
Speaker 6: like all natural and like really yummy. I like it.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well you see, you have a twisted I
Speaker 1: actually I like the sugary bad stuff and the natural
Speaker 1: like carrot stuff. I don't like. Oh I should, I should,
Speaker 1: I should eat more blended carrots and whatnot.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's honestly I need to as well, but I
Speaker 6: really don't like the way blended carrots smell. It just
Speaker 6: smells like a farm start up.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm hmm. Okay, so you just finished the six
Speaker 1: hour shift and your partner is coming home. Well, I'll
Speaker 1: let me ask you that, is there any particular reason
Speaker 1: why you called in? It's okay if not.
Speaker 6: Sorta not super particular, but like I guess sorta, I guess, all.
Speaker 1: Right, what's the sort of what's the sort.
Speaker 6: Of I just got out of like an almost three
Speaker 6: year serious relationship about three months ago, and I have
Speaker 6: started I'm a new relationship now that I've been in
Speaker 6: for like two weeks and it's been going really well.
Speaker 6: It's really nice and I don't feel like pressure or
Speaker 6: anything in any aspect. But like, just because of how
Speaker 6: society views like relationships and stuff, my brain is like,
Speaker 6: did I move on too fast? Am I doing the
Speaker 6: right thing? But like I don't feel anxious at all.
Speaker 6: I only feel anxious because I think I'm supposed to hah.
Speaker 6: So I don't know, it's kind of a silly I'm
Speaker 6: just trying to like go with the flow and hope
Speaker 6: and just like let god life take me where it
Speaker 6: wants to.
Speaker 5: Flah.
Speaker 1: Man, well, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: The brain's a weird thing. It did. It'll it'll tell
Speaker 1: you if something's wrong and make you wonder whether or
Speaker 1: not it actually is.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's really confusing, and like, I'm at a point.
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm only like nineteen, but I'm at a
Speaker 6: point in my life now where I just let things
Speaker 6: happen and I just like hope I can deal with it,
Speaker 6: and if I can't, then I help I get my
Speaker 6: people to help me.
Speaker 1: That sounds good. That doesn't sound like a bad way
Speaker 1: to go about doing things. You feel like you moved
Speaker 1: on too fast.
Speaker 6: I feel like that. I think that I was already
Speaker 6: over the relationship much earlier than when it ended. But
Speaker 6: everyone around me is like, are you sure you're moving
Speaker 6: on like the right speed? And I'm like, I know myself,
Speaker 6: I know me, but everyone's making me doubt myself. So
Speaker 6: I'm like, do I know me.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, well, I mean, I mean I don't know,
Speaker 1: man like this, this is uh what you've been with
Speaker 1: this person for two weeks?
Speaker 6: Yeah, well almost three. We just started like seeing each other.
Speaker 1: It's pretty casual, okay, and you let me look you're
Speaker 1: feeling good about it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's super nice. I enjoy him a lot.
Speaker 1: Okay. I mean from what you've told me, doesn't sound
Speaker 1: like uh that crazy of a crazy of a problem.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I I'm just not
Speaker 6: scared of getting my heartbroken like most people are, so
Speaker 6: I feel like I can deal.
Speaker 1: With fascinating, fascinating. Tell me more about that. Why are
Speaker 1: you not scared of getting your heartbroken like most people? Lie?
Speaker 6: My guess is that I just I guess I'd was
Speaker 6: kind of like cringe, but I've experienced it a lot,
Speaker 6: so it's just something I'm pretty used to. And like
Speaker 6: being like disappointed from people is that Like this sounds
Speaker 6: so sad, but like genuinely, I'm so used to people
Speaker 6: disappointing me, so when people do now, I just don't
Speaker 6: get surprised anymore. And I'm like, all right, whatever.
Speaker 3: M.
Speaker 6: So it doesn't really bother me. And like I feel,
Speaker 6: I feel like inhuman almost sometimes.
Speaker 1: Like you know, you know, you should talk to a
Speaker 1: real therapist about this. I'm very curious what they would say.
Speaker 1: That's a fascinating thing. Well, that's a fascinating thing that
Speaker 1: you bring up, that you that you are used to disappointment,
Speaker 1: so and yeah, yeah, yeah, that you're that you're used
Speaker 1: to disappointment. So when it happens, you're not even disappointed anymore,
Speaker 1: and you're one. And and the debate about whether or
Speaker 1: not that's a sad thing or if it's a good
Speaker 1: thing because it's helped you not to I don't know,
Speaker 1: be so invested in in external things. Yeah, I'm thinking
Speaker 1: about it. I'm really into like I've been try trying to.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get more into like stoic philosophy stuff,
Speaker 1: and I feel like that's a h a tenant of that,
Speaker 1: like trying not to put your weight so heavily in
Speaker 1: anything external that that gives it the power to, you know,
Speaker 1: emotionally harm you. I don't know if I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's sad or not. That's a good question.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I honestly like I've been I grew up Buddhist,
Speaker 6: so I've been like trying to really like follow the
Speaker 6: mentality of just having attachments is eternal suffering. And yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: I've probably been taking that too literally and doing that
Speaker 6: with everything ever, but I genuinely it's this sounds a
Speaker 6: little crazy, but it's so relieving when shitty things happen
Speaker 6: and I don't feel like the world is ending around me,
Speaker 6: and I'm like, I can do this, I can handle this,
Speaker 6: like whatever.
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, I mean, look, you say it sounds sad,
Speaker 1: and I don't really there might be something more complex
Speaker 1: going on there that I don't understand, but that does
Speaker 1: sound like a good thing. It sounds I mean, it
Speaker 1: sounds very monk like.
Speaker 6: I mean, I tried how I was raised. It's I
Speaker 6: just like, I don't know. It took me a long
Speaker 6: long time to just be chill with everything.
Speaker 1: But anyways, are you are you tell me more about
Speaker 1: being raised Buddhists, like both your parents we were Buddhists.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, my dad practiced it more. My mom was
Speaker 6: just kind of like there, but like he was mostly him.
Speaker 6: We had like lots of I think the biggest thing
Speaker 6: we had around our house was just tons and tons
Speaker 6: and tons of Buddhist statues is hairy psychotics. But my
Speaker 6: dad taught me meditation and how to like let go
Speaker 6: of things and that like holding on to materialisms and
Speaker 6: stuff like that is never going to get you anywhere
Speaker 6: in life. And if you really want to be happy,
Speaker 6: only hold on to the things you truly deeply put
Speaker 6: in your heart to heart?
Speaker 1: Is that kind of Is that a philosopher that your
Speaker 1: dad gave you?
Speaker 6: He passed it down to me, And for a long
Speaker 6: time when didn't agree with it, I always was like, yeah,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna surround myself by things like for you, Dad,
Speaker 6: But I realized that it's true. It's like not like
Speaker 6: having things you truly only care about bring such peace
Speaker 6: and relaxation, at least for me. You know, someone else
Speaker 6: might live the opposite and be happy as hell, but.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny. I've read I've like, by ready
Speaker 1: any overall footnotes. Anytime on this podcast, I say that
Speaker 1: I've read into something and means I skimmed a Wikipedia
Speaker 1: article once. Okay, well that's that's what that means. As
Speaker 1: I've briefly read into some Buddhism stuff and it just
Speaker 1: I know that's the central tenant. I usually I don't
Speaker 1: do like deep dives. I usually just I get the
Speaker 1: central tenants and I think on it, you know, so
Speaker 1: that I mean that's central tenant, that the attachment is suffering.
Speaker 1: I mean it's an interesting idea, right, because it's kind
Speaker 1: of true. You know when I think about like things
Speaker 1: that make me suffer, things that I guess make anybody
Speaker 1: suffer are like attachments, attachments to people, attachments to jobs,
Speaker 1: attachments to things, attachments to you know, places, and I mean,
Speaker 1: fuck even attachment to your own life.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 6: It's just I mean, like exactly the root of all
Speaker 6: evil in my opinion and a lot of others is
Speaker 6: attachments are the evil, and and money and stuff like
Speaker 6: that too. It's just like, I money is really what
Speaker 6: it comes to. I can go onto this. I'm not
Speaker 6: gonna chat your ear off, but it's yeah, I've been
Speaker 6: like trying to just not hold onto things, whether that
Speaker 6: be people that make me feel shitty or objects that
Speaker 6: I just keep up space or shit like that, or
Speaker 6: a job that makes me unhappy, like I let go
Speaker 6: of so much in the past like four months. It's
Speaker 6: I feel like I've started not just a new chapter,
Speaker 6: but a new book of my life, and I'm only nineteen,
Speaker 6: so I can't wait to like make more books. I
Speaker 6: guess with my life.
Speaker 1: I like that. I like that. Yeah, you know, I'll
Speaker 1: say this before we go. I know you have a
Speaker 1: lot of people in your life telling you that you know,
Speaker 1: maybe that you're you're going about this the wrong way.
Speaker 1: But I mean, look, especially because you're only fucking nineteen,
Speaker 1: I feel like you can you know this, this this
Speaker 1: way of life that you have going for you right
Speaker 1: now that you're into of letting go really easily and
Speaker 1: being sort of transient through everything, give it, give it
Speaker 1: a shot, and you know, figure out on your own
Speaker 1: whether or not it's beneficial for you.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a far time to run that experiment.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's like the best part about being alive and
Speaker 6: this young is that I have so much time to
Speaker 6: do things like That's what's me really going is knowing
Speaker 6: how much I haven't even tasted of life yet. There's
Speaker 6: so much.
Speaker 1: What is your name again?
Speaker 6: Forest?
Speaker 1: Forest?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 1: Well, Forest, have a good rest of your life. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna you've inspired me after this. After I'm done recording this,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna skim a little bit more on
Speaker 1: the Wikipedia page for Buddhism.
Speaker 6: Well, I'm glad that I've got you interested. It's a
Speaker 6: great way to live.
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you gonna say to the people
Speaker 1: the computer before we go?
Speaker 6: Respect all life, no matter what. That's all I want
Speaker 6: to say. Take care, man, Thanks until your day. Goodbye
Speaker 6: all from Alan?
Speaker 7: Pick up my guy.
Speaker 1: I just did.
Speaker 7: Hello. Hello, it's me.
Speaker 1: What's up?
Speaker 7: How are you? Man?
Speaker 1: I'm doing good man? How are you?
Speaker 7: I'm chilling, bro and chimming real. I always want to
Speaker 7: say congrats you like you came so far, Bro, Like
Speaker 7: I've been seeing me since twenty twenty man, for real,
Speaker 7: So like.
Speaker 1: Thanks Man, I'm it's so funny. Every day I'm like
Speaker 1: how much longer am I?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 1: Am I allowed to do this? And you know, look
Speaker 1: every day every day that that God or Jesus or
Speaker 1: Moses lets me live in a universe where I'm a
Speaker 1: gecko on the computer talking to strangers. It's a good day.
Speaker 1: It's a good day.
Speaker 5: What are you up to?
Speaker 1: What's is there a thing that you called in to
Speaker 1: want to talk about?
Speaker 5: Alan?
Speaker 2: Bro?
Speaker 7: I what's not my real name? I had to use
Speaker 7: something fake just because, like you know, I didn't want to, like, well,
Speaker 7: you never know whoever can be watching this ship.
Speaker 1: But like I don't get why people. I don't understand
Speaker 1: why people do people do this all the time. They
Speaker 1: say they say they say my name is Alan, but
Speaker 1: that's a fake name. The whole point of the fake
Speaker 1: name is that it's I'm supposed to think it's real.
Speaker 1: Why do people keep saying that their fake names are fake?
Speaker 1: That in validates the point of the fake names?
Speaker 7: Funny, right, I don't know, just human error. I don't know, dude.
Speaker 7: I just I just do it just to protect my identity. Man.
Speaker 7: But anyway, yo, so thank you for like taking up Yo. So,
Speaker 7: like I have like this like this love connection romantic
Speaker 7: situation type of thing, and I wanted to like break
Speaker 7: it down to you, even though like I kind of
Speaker 7: figured it out. I just kind of just wanted to
Speaker 7: talk to you about it because like I just kind
Speaker 7: of been like obsessed with this woman that like kind
Speaker 7: of inspired me in like in a musical in a
Speaker 7: music like art way, you know. So, like I'm a
Speaker 7: DJ and I'm producer, and I like I've been doing
Speaker 7: that since I was sixteen. I'm thirty now, and and
Speaker 7: like I've recently just like started going back into the
Speaker 7: underground club scene and whatnot. And I've been seeing like
Speaker 7: the evolution of just like just me in general, just
Speaker 7: going out into different like environments and just exploring like
Speaker 7: different like just you know, like underground teams or whatever whatever.
Speaker 7: But anyway, I met her? Why didn't meet her? Why
Speaker 7: did I actually seen her? The first time? Djaying, I
Speaker 7: was so enamored by the way like she would spin
Speaker 7: or whatnot. And yeah, man, like ever since then, I've
Speaker 7: just been like changing on my style, bro, And I like,
Speaker 7: I have like a huge crush on her and brow
Speaker 7: like real and we bumped in a couple of times.
Speaker 7: But I would like I'd be so shy, Like I'm
Speaker 7: just like a shy dude when it comes to like
Speaker 7: someone like I have like this crush on and like
Speaker 7: you could tell, like some females are, like you can
Speaker 7: they can tell when like you're they can like like
Speaker 7: kind of like feel when you're like, oh, this dude
Speaker 7: has something from here, something here, he's acting weird whatever.
Speaker 7: But but yeah, it's been.
Speaker 6: Like a year.
Speaker 1: I gotta, I just gotta as we stand now at
Speaker 1: this point in the conversation, I am confused as to
Speaker 1: whether or not you know this woman or if she
Speaker 1: is somebody you saw on TV.
Speaker 7: No, I know her. I know her.
Speaker 1: We met, We met, okay, and did you ask her
Speaker 1: out on a date?
Speaker 7: Nah? Man, That's the thing. I don't know if it's
Speaker 7: ego or envy, and it's just a bunch of emotions
Speaker 7: that I feel. And it's just like I had to
Speaker 7: process this ship like I'm like, no, why am I
Speaker 7: ignoring her? Like idated like other girls, but like you're
Speaker 7: the ones that just like it's not It's just like
Speaker 7: one of those things where.
Speaker 1: Like, okay, what's your alan? Okay, we gotta slow down
Speaker 1: for a second. I gotta wrap my head around. Your
Speaker 1: brain is firing on all cylinders right now, and I
Speaker 1: need we need to slow down. I'm gonna wrap my
Speaker 1: head around this. So you have a you here's the
Speaker 1: here's the here's here's the great thing about being You're thirty.
Speaker 1: You said you're thirty. Yeah, Here's the great thing about
Speaker 1: being thirty compared to being twelve is that when you're
Speaker 1: twelve and you have a crush on a girl, there
Speaker 1: you really there's fucking nothing you can do about it. Really,
Speaker 1: I mean you can go up and you can ask
Speaker 1: her on a date. But you're not you're twelve. You
Speaker 1: can't take a girl out on a date. That's not anything.
Speaker 1: What you people normally do is they ask their friends
Speaker 1: to ask them if they like you, and then you
Speaker 1: kind of strategize and you're nervous and you have to
Speaker 1: kind of take all these peripheral actions around it. But
Speaker 1: you don't have to do that. You're thirty. You're an adult.
Speaker 1: That's the great thing about being an adult is if
Speaker 1: you like somebody and take your adult confidence and you
Speaker 1: go up to them, you tell them that you like them,
Speaker 1: and then you ask them if they would like to
Speaker 1: to you know whether or not maybe maybe they like you,
Speaker 1: or or you ask them if they would like to
Speaker 1: go out for them to see if they like you too,
Speaker 1: and and and it goes from being this horrifically. It
Speaker 1: gets complicated later when you It gets complicated once you're
Speaker 1: in a relationship, but the actual courting process is far
Speaker 1: less complicated than it was when you were twelve. You
Speaker 1: have that advantage, Alan, So tell me what in that
Speaker 1: courtship process, what are the the issues there? Plainly and simple,
Speaker 1: because here's because if you answer this with something that's
Speaker 1: like a thousand sentences long. It's just a tile of
Speaker 1: what's there. Please give me a straight answer to this.
Speaker 7: To this question the reason, Okay, I'll go slow. I'm
Speaker 7: kind of excited talking to you, bro.
Speaker 1: No, I'm excited to talk to you too. I'm just
Speaker 1: I just want to know. I just want to know
Speaker 1: what the issue is here.
Speaker 7: The thing is is that, well, I don't want to
Speaker 7: force it, I guess because you know now that she's
Speaker 7: like really a prominent DJ in the scene, Like, I
Speaker 7: don't know, like I just kind of feel like I
Speaker 7: just don't want to do follow her to every single
Speaker 7: event like she's eating.
Speaker 1: I don't want to Alan Alan, Alan, Alan Alan. Nobody
Speaker 1: said anything about following her to every event that she's at.
Speaker 1: What are you talking about?
Speaker 7: I don't know. I just don't want to be a weirdo,
Speaker 7: you know. And I think it's just just like somebody
Speaker 7: like this guy always like and he's just not saying
Speaker 7: anything to me, even though I'm giving him like like
Speaker 7: eyes and stuff. You know, I don't know, Mat, i'd
Speaker 7: be over calpulicating it.
Speaker 1: You know, You're well, I don't You're one hundred percent
Speaker 1: of over complicating this, I can just like an already
Speaker 1: tell are you does this? How many conversations have you
Speaker 1: had with this girl ship?
Speaker 7: Like probably like too too?
Speaker 1: Okay, do you word? Do you guys have some kind
Speaker 1: of thing where you're recurring least do you have her
Speaker 1: on the Instagram or the phone number or anything like that?
Speaker 7: The IG waves? Yeah, I do, but I don't have
Speaker 7: a number.
Speaker 1: Though, Okay, if you talked on the on the i G.
Speaker 7: I tried, man, but she doesn't follow me back, and
Speaker 7: so like I tried sending a message to her, but
Speaker 7: you know, at some point, it's just like I couldn't
Speaker 7: even make comments like on her IG stories. I don't know, man,
Speaker 7: like I just that's why you could?
Speaker 1: You could? What do you mean you couldn't make comments
Speaker 1: on her i G stories?
Speaker 7: Yeah? Like you know how some people just like you
Speaker 7: can make a comment and then like somehow some some
Speaker 7: random like some people just like kind of like turn
Speaker 7: off the comments of certain people can't like comment on
Speaker 7: their stories.
Speaker 1: Did she turn off your specific specifically your ability to
Speaker 1: comment on her stories?
Speaker 8: I don't maybe okay, has she wait.
Speaker 7: A minute, hold on weird, it's weird.
Speaker 1: Okay, when you talk to this person. When you talk
Speaker 1: to this person, how did the conversation go?
Speaker 7: I mean, it's pretty flow. It's just like, hey, how
Speaker 7: are you how you doing? He's like, Oh, I'm good,
Speaker 7: I'm good, I'm fine, this and that and like kind
Speaker 7: of just like just tries to not even like we'll
Speaker 7: not even try, but I guess doesn't try to like
Speaker 7: complete like it's just a small talk. But then like
Speaker 7: we bumped into certain places and it's like, excuse me
Speaker 7: to these eyes where it's just like okay, like you're
Speaker 7: giving me these eyes and like you're kind of showing
Speaker 7: me interest. But then again, like are you even shy
Speaker 7: like me? Like are we having the same type of
Speaker 7: like dilemma where none of us, like none of us
Speaker 7: are going to try to like innately try to like
Speaker 7: ask each other out, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 7: that type of vibe that I was getting, So it's
Speaker 7: just kind of like kind of like I kind of
Speaker 7: just came up to the conclusion because I was talking
Speaker 7: to them. I was like, yo, just let it go,
Speaker 7: and just like you're DJ too, right, And I was
Speaker 7: like yeah, like so yeah, you're going to be out
Speaker 7: in the scene and you're just going to be collaborating
Speaker 7: with the certain promoters. So probably oddly enough along that way,
Speaker 7: you're probably gonna beat up with her again and then
Speaker 7: you're gonna probably like have like a conversation but like
Speaker 7: off of like DJINGG or whatnot. So so, yeah, I
Speaker 7: had I had realized a couple of things about my situation.
Speaker 7: I realized that I can't put nobody on a pedestal, man,
Speaker 7: And I think that's my biggest thing. I can't. I
Speaker 7: think I was putting her on a pedestal, and I'm
Speaker 7: just like and and I'm just like, man, that's that's
Speaker 7: a no brain, I can't do that.
Speaker 8: You know what.
Speaker 1: You know, as I'm listening to you talk, I'm realizing
Speaker 1: I'm actually I'm actually rethinking everything I've said to you.
Speaker 1: Because I told you that the courting process I've made,
Speaker 1: I've made a whole bang about how it was easy.
Speaker 1: It's not. It's no part of any of this is easy,
Speaker 1: now that I'm now that i'm hearing you talk about it. No,
Speaker 1: it's difficult. It's all difficult because you know you're trying
Speaker 1: to First look, here's the thing. I don't know what
Speaker 1: the whole deal is with this Instagram thing. If you
Speaker 1: think you haven't blocked by her on Instagram, that is
Speaker 1: a clear sign, which is fine. You know, you'll live,
Speaker 1: you can move on with your life.
Speaker 7: Of course, it's better like that. I think. I think
Speaker 7: I just have to just let it go, dude, Like
Speaker 7: this whole life.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's truck. Can I tell you? I don't
Speaker 1: know you that well, but I know the one thing
Speaker 1: that I know about you is that this is driving
Speaker 1: you insane.
Speaker 7: Yeah, man, yeah, for like a year, dude, And I
Speaker 7: just like I'm like, man, why the fuck am I
Speaker 7: like even overthinking like this ship. Why don't I just
Speaker 7: approach it and then just end it and then be
Speaker 7: like fine, I fucking did it. And I don't have
Speaker 7: no fucking, like fucking crazy daydreams about this woman that
Speaker 7: like should have, could have would a scenarios that kill
Speaker 7: every man inside their mind, and it's just like it
Speaker 7: just disturbs you, you know what I mean? You know,
Speaker 7: I keep that under control. Like, don't get me wrong,
Speaker 7: I'm not crazy anything like that. But just like when
Speaker 7: you when you sincerely like kind of like feel a
Speaker 7: connection from somebody and it's like really like really like
Speaker 7: you feel it. It's just like that's like a point
Speaker 7: where it's like, damn, I don't want to be vulnerable, though,
Speaker 7: what if something crazy, Like what if I come off
Speaker 7: like like an idiot dude? No bro, like I'm spiritual
Speaker 7: like you, I feel like just some sort of spiritual also.
Speaker 7: But it's just like these people. Sometimes we have these
Speaker 7: connections with people and it's just like you can't really
Speaker 7: explain it. But then like either you go and jump
Speaker 7: and like jump in the water.
Speaker 1: Alan, Alan, Alan, look, Amata, I think you're a good guy.
Speaker 1: I really do. I think you're I think you're a
Speaker 1: sweet soul. I think one day you will find a
Speaker 1: woman who loves you as much as you love her.
Speaker 1: I think everything's gonna be okay with you. But I
Speaker 1: need to I need to tell you something.
Speaker 7: Alan, that's good.
Speaker 1: You've you've you've told me that you have spoken to
Speaker 1: this woman two times. Yeah, just okay. You've spoken this
Speaker 1: woman two times, and for an entire year, you have
Speaker 1: been using only the limited amount of information in your
Speaker 1: surface level conversations that you have had with this girl
Speaker 1: and assumptions that you have made from looking at her
Speaker 1: eyes to build up this this grandiose portrait of who
Speaker 1: she is that is based off of virtually no actual
Speaker 1: data or experience, and that's where you're working off of
Speaker 1: and falling in love with, and like we have both
Speaker 1: agreed upon, it is driving you insane. Yeah, okay, so look,
Speaker 1: you're your DJ, right, just just give me short answers.
Speaker 1: You're a DJ, right, okay. You you have a passion,
Speaker 1: you have there's a whole community of DJs. You go
Speaker 1: to parties, you meet tons of people. You have in
Speaker 1: your you're young, you have in your hands such a
Speaker 1: beautiful life to freely explore without the chains of this
Speaker 1: perceived image of a person that's weighing you down and
Speaker 1: driving you crazy. Release yourself from these chains and go
Speaker 1: live your fucking life, dude.
Speaker 7: Right, can you do that for him?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Definitely, bro, definitely Okay, Okay, this is so good. This
Speaker 7: is so awesome, man. Like I definitely was not going
Speaker 7: to say, like money, no therapist. I was like, yo,
Speaker 7: let me, let me get you out, dude, because like
Speaker 7: I seen Ross like COVID and you had like JPEG
Speaker 7: Mafia and ship bros. I'm like, yo, You're like I did,
Speaker 7: I didn't have JPG MA.
Speaker 1: I'ld be cool if you.
Speaker 7: Want, Danny, I think you're right you Danny Danny Brown.
Speaker 1: No, you're probably thinking of Denzel Curry.
Speaker 7: That's so funny. Yeah dude, but yeah, man, like I
Speaker 7: appreciate you for picking because like, you know, it's it's
Speaker 7: you're right. It's like this perceived notion, like with no data,
Speaker 7: and it's just.
Speaker 1: Like, by the way, let me tell you, look, you're
Speaker 1: not you're not. Look people are Look, people are gonna
Speaker 1: try to meme on you, all right, They're gonna be like,
Speaker 1: you know, don't It's okay, it's what you're What you
Speaker 1: are doing is a natural human impulse. I've done it
Speaker 1: myself plenty of times, and it has driven me in
Speaker 1: my life crazy plenty of times. I remember when I
Speaker 1: used to be addicted to Tinder, Like, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I would like send, like exchange two messages with some
Speaker 1: girl and like look at her pictures and just imagine
Speaker 1: you know, you you you project so many ideas of
Speaker 1: who she is and how you guys will get along,
Speaker 1: and it's it's based off of fucking nothing. But it
Speaker 1: could make you feel obsessed, okay, and you just you
Speaker 1: need to realize what's going on and you need to
Speaker 1: squash it and and open your brain up to the
Speaker 1: beautiful abundance of other things going on in your life
Speaker 1: that you've been shoving to the side in favor of
Speaker 1: this projected image you have of a person.
Speaker 5: Is this all?
Speaker 1: Is this speaking to you right now?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Man? You are okay?
Speaker 1: Good? Good? Okay? Can you do that? Alan?
Speaker 7: Definitely? Definitely?
Speaker 1: Bro? What do you do? What kind of music do
Speaker 1: you make?
Speaker 7: Man? That's that's a good quest. I mean right now,
Speaker 7: I've been doing like club music. I do hip hop,
Speaker 7: I do R and B. You know.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be You're gonna hang out in the club,
Speaker 1: You're gonna meet people, you're gonna have you have a
Speaker 1: nice you have a nice life. Man, go live it, Okay,
Speaker 1: don't spend it in your brain fantasizing. Live in what's
Speaker 1: actually going on. You'll be happier.
Speaker 7: So yeah, it's like the best advice I've gotten.
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 7: Ah? Man, damn what else to say? Ah? Shit? Really
Speaker 7: live in the real life. I know this ship, like
Speaker 7: I probably somebody else probably goes through the same ship.
Speaker 7: I know y'all do. But like life is beautiful, you
Speaker 7: just got to fuck up here and there. But hey,
Speaker 7: that's why we take risks, right. It's better to just
Speaker 7: go out there and take a risk and not to right. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, ah, you take care. I'll talk to you.
Speaker 7: Soon, you too, bro, Take care. Man.
Speaker 1: Look, you're we've all you know, don't. I feel like
Speaker 1: a lot of people have done stuff like that where
Speaker 1: they uh uh fantasize about a person to a point
Speaker 1: where you you've conflated your fantasy with reality and again
Speaker 1: it can drive you crazy. So wake the fuck up,
Speaker 1: live your life. Hello, folks, it's Lyle. So this next
Speaker 1: call is actually a street interview that I did in
Speaker 1: real life in the middle of the famous Shibuya crossing
Speaker 1: in Tokyo, Japan. Most of the people we interviewed there
Speaker 1: actually only spoke Japanese, so I had a translator with
Speaker 1: me the whole time. But the woman in this clip
Speaker 1: was visiting from Australia and told us some really fascinating
Speaker 1: stuff going on with her and her family and her
Speaker 1: life that I will let you guys hear for yourself.
Speaker 1: I love doing these videos where I travel around to
Speaker 1: foreign countries and interview people on the streets. I've done
Speaker 1: it in Mexico City, Guatemala, and now Japan. And if
Speaker 1: you like this interview, you like this format, and you
Speaker 1: want to watch the whole thing, I have linked it
Speaker 1: in the episode description. All right, let's go to Japan. Hi, Grace, Hi,
Speaker 1: how are you? I'm good?
Speaker 8: How are you?
Speaker 1: This is Kiko Hi.
Speaker 9: Nice to meet you and yours, Lyle Lion, Lyle Lyle.
Speaker 1: Yes, what are you doing here in Japan? Dude?
Speaker 9: I'm just traveling?
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 1: Where is Where are you traveling from Australia? Oh?
Speaker 3: Yes, it's my second day in Tokyo and it's my
Speaker 3: first time being here.
Speaker 1: Oh really?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: What made you want to come all the way over
Speaker 1: to Tokyo.
Speaker 9: I've always wanted to come.
Speaker 3: It just happened that my brother he's also coming to Tokyo,
Speaker 3: but from Hong Kong.
Speaker 9: So I'm like, no, I'll meet you in Tokyo.
Speaker 1: Oh great, great, great?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: What what's life like back in Australia?
Speaker 3: Not very exciting, to be honest with you. Yeah, what
Speaker 3: are you doing? What are you guys doing here?
Speaker 5: You know I'm not one hundred percent sure myself.
Speaker 9: Oh what are here? Am I being filmed?
Speaker 1: You are being filmed? Is that Okay, yeah, that's fine.
Speaker 1: We're just doing little interviews with people who I happen
Speaker 1: to be walking by androsing.
Speaker 3: Okay, So do you guys have a YouTube channel or something?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's gonna be on YouTube maybe maybe.
Speaker 5: Maybe I don't know, maybe it'll just I'll just watch
Speaker 5: it myself.
Speaker 9: Okay, how how long have you guys been sitting here today?
Speaker 1: How long have we been sitting here today? You think?
Speaker 1: Let's see, let me check we've been We've been sitting
Speaker 1: here for oh, we've actually been sitting here for thirty
Speaker 1: eight minutes.
Speaker 9: Okay, that's not too long.
Speaker 1: We've been sitting here for thirty eight minutes and we've
Speaker 1: gotten very few people to come sit and talk.
Speaker 3: And I'm like number two or three something like that,
Speaker 3: something like that.
Speaker 9: That's actually not too bad.
Speaker 5: Not too bad, right? Your life?
Speaker 1: Like, tell me about Australia. What do you do?
Speaker 3: I'm an accountant, you're an accountant. Yes, it's not very exciting, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yet you see you have an exciting energy
Speaker 1: about you. Really?
Speaker 9: Can you feel it?
Speaker 1: I can feel it? Can you feel the exciting energy?
Speaker 8: Really?
Speaker 1: What were you able to get time off from accounting
Speaker 1: to come here?
Speaker 9: I'm actually.
Speaker 3: Thinking about switching industry, maybe going to banking or something,
Speaker 3: but I don't know yet. Let's see if I can
Speaker 3: find a job, find a new job.
Speaker 9: But yeah, I actually had a pretty shitty year. That's why.
Speaker 1: Why did you have a shitty year, Grace?
Speaker 3: It's pretty sad because my dad passed away. Yeah, but
Speaker 3: you know, that's part of life. And yeah, it's kind
Speaker 3: of changed my perspective of things because he passed away
Speaker 3: really quickly, and it just happened very suddenly. And it
Speaker 3: was back in March, so back then, so they're all
Speaker 3: in Hong Kong. And back then, Hong Kong banned people
Speaker 3: coming in from Australia. So in order for me to
Speaker 3: go home, I had to go to New Zealand for
Speaker 3: two weeks to wash out two weeks, and once I
Speaker 3: reached Hong Kong, I still had to do.
Speaker 9: Two weeks quarantine.
Speaker 3: Took me like four weeks to see my family.
Speaker 1: Took you four weeks to your family.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, it was really bad.
Speaker 3: And the saddest thing was my dad passed away on
Speaker 3: the day that I left for Hong Kong, so I
Speaker 3: didn't make it like the when I stepped on my
Speaker 3: trip like pretty much twelve hours later he's gone.
Speaker 9: So it was pretty traumatic.
Speaker 3: I would say, yeah, yeah, and and and then there
Speaker 3: are all these family issues that because of its passing
Speaker 3: that they were coming up. So I was like dealing
Speaker 3: with a lot of shitty, complex things. So I had
Speaker 3: a really shitty year. And that's part of the reason why.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm in Japan now because I'm like, stop it.
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna book this trip and make myself happy.
Speaker 3: I'm just going to spend the money and you know.
Speaker 9: Do this.
Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah, I love that. So is that
Speaker 1: part of because you were talking about how this this
Speaker 1: all kind of even though it was shitty, gave you
Speaker 1: a different perspective that you're like applying to how you're
Speaker 1: now living your life.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think so, Like, tell.
Speaker 1: Me more about that new perspective.
Speaker 9: I think it makes me realize I can do so
Speaker 9: much more.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I've dealt with all these situations and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: oh my god, you can actually do this. You can
Speaker 3: deal with all these difficult people and difficult situations, and
Speaker 3: why don't you go out then try something different.
Speaker 9: Because I've been in my industry for like ten years and.
Speaker 3: I don't see myself. I'll just tell you a little
Speaker 3: bit more about my job. So I'm insolvency accountant, So
Speaker 3: we do bankruptcy people dealing with bankrupt people or company
Speaker 3: going to liquidations.
Speaker 9: Like it's all.
Speaker 3: I quite like the things I do because every case
Speaker 3: is different. But I also don't see myself in doing
Speaker 3: this for very long. I don't see myself becoming a
Speaker 3: liquid data so I'm like, maybe I should do something else.
Speaker 9: But anyway, it's just a lot of things happened this year.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it comes to the point that this year
Speaker 3: has it's coming to an end, and yeah, I think
Speaker 3: I'm up for a new start for next year.
Speaker 1: So you said that it's kind of helped you learn
Speaker 1: that there are many things that you thought you couldn't
Speaker 1: do the actually can do. Tell me about some of
Speaker 1: those things.
Speaker 9: Oh, it's probably gm. I just you know, family stuff.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, So I know you said that
Speaker 1: there was some drama, and it's okay if this is
Speaker 1: something you don't want to talk about. But do you
Speaker 1: feel like this might have brought your family like closer
Speaker 1: together in any sense, because I feel like that tends
Speaker 1: to happen when something like this happens is you know,
Speaker 1: it's sad, but everyone kind of, you know, gathers.
Speaker 3: And I think that's a really good point, Like we're
Speaker 3: already very close, but definitely these events brought us closer
Speaker 3: and we learn more about each other.
Speaker 9: Like yeah, and can I ask you guys some questions?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 9: Yes, So, so how long have you been doing this?
Speaker 1: I've been doing this for like two and a half years.
Speaker 3: Oh, okay, out making context for two.
Speaker 1: And a half years already, Yeah something like that. Yeah, yeah, wow,
Speaker 1: this is.
Speaker 5: My first time doing it in Japan.
Speaker 1: I met Kiko on the phone actually, because I do
Speaker 1: a show where I talk to people on the phone,
Speaker 1: and she's come here to help me translate. But we
Speaker 1: haven't yet found many like actually, you know people who
Speaker 1: only speak Japanese.
Speaker 2: No need for me to translate.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, all right, So how long are you planning
Speaker 3: to be out here today?
Speaker 1: As long as it takes, as long as it takes
Speaker 1: I suppose.
Speaker 9: As long as the sun is out.
Speaker 1: So okay, you said that you've learned. You said that
Speaker 1: you learned more about your family. If it's not too
Speaker 1: much information, can I hear some of the things that
Speaker 1: you've learned? Like, did you learn anything new about your
Speaker 1: your mother or or your your siblings.
Speaker 3: I guess it's more about letting them learning me learning
Speaker 3: things about me.
Speaker 1: Interesting, what do you think I learned about you?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 9: Oh, this is too deep? I mean tm I yeah,
Speaker 9: but you.
Speaker 1: Don't have it's just.
Speaker 9: Oh, yeah, this is TMI.
Speaker 3: But my dad actually had another like he had a
Speaker 3: he had a he had a partner, like outside of
Speaker 3: the marriage. So we never two two families were we
Speaker 3: don't acknowledge each other at all. But then because this happened,
Speaker 3: so they came into contact with us.
Speaker 1: Interesting, So did you not know them before?
Speaker 3: We knew, like we knew about ten years ago, but
Speaker 3: we never really My.
Speaker 9: Dad still wasn't sure.
Speaker 3: If I knew about so I was like pretending that
Speaker 3: I don't know, like trying to preserve the relationship, so
Speaker 3: we don't we never talk about it. But yeah, it's
Speaker 3: very The situation was really dedicate because there was a
Speaker 3: child involved.
Speaker 9: So my half brother is like just like ten or
Speaker 9: twelve years old.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it was a very delicate situation, like when
Speaker 3: you have to break the news to the other side
Speaker 3: and all those things. And at first we didn't really
Speaker 3: want to come into contact with them. So I basically
Speaker 3: contacted his school, told them about a situation and said,
Speaker 3: the dad has passed away because because our father.
Speaker 1: You contacted your half brother's school to let them know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh my god. And did you had you even ever
Speaker 1: met your half brother after that? Yes, So when you
Speaker 1: when you called the school, he didn't even know who
Speaker 1: you were.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I knew his name.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So what happened was my dad was like they he
Speaker 3: lives with Obviously he looks after my half brother.
Speaker 9: So they lived together, separating like separate.
Speaker 3: Homes, and my dad was quite sick and basically one
Speaker 3: day he.
Speaker 9: Just left home. They knew that they were going to
Speaker 9: the hospital, but he never returned, and.
Speaker 3: It just it was like over the course of maybe
Speaker 3: three weeks, they were still in contact that my father
Speaker 3: was still in contact with the other side, but then
Speaker 3: eventually he got so weak and couldn't respond to any messages.
Speaker 9: So they left hanging there. I didn't know what was
Speaker 9: going on.
Speaker 3: They tried to contact the hospital, but the hospital wouldn't
Speaker 3: talk to them because the mother isn't his lawful wife,
Speaker 3: so there's no like she can't get these information from
Speaker 3: the hospital. And one day they received this message from
Speaker 3: their school social worker that someone has told us that
Speaker 3: your dad has passed away, so they reach out to
Speaker 3: us and yeah, the whole drama begay.
Speaker 1: Have you maintained a relationship with the partner's.
Speaker 9: Family, the boy, Yes, we still talk.
Speaker 3: I actually stayed in Hong Kong for like two months,
Speaker 3: so I really made myself available for them.
Speaker 1: So it's very it's very sweet of you to make
Speaker 1: yourself available for them, even though you had never known that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's the thing that my family learned about me.
Speaker 3: She's like, they're like, why can you be so nice
Speaker 3: to them? I don't know, because there's just a child.
Speaker 9: Involved, and I just feel bad. I think, I don't know.
Speaker 9: I just I just did it?
Speaker 7: Do you?
Speaker 1: I mean, do you feel like a connection to your
Speaker 1: father through them in a sense because they were close
Speaker 1: to him?
Speaker 9: Not really interesting?
Speaker 1: Not really.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't see him. I don't see my dad
Speaker 3: in him at all. He doesn't look anything like my dad.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, he doesn't look anything like my dad.
Speaker 3: We even did a DNA test to confirm a sneaky
Speaker 3: one sneaky. So this is the kind of dramas that
Speaker 3: I was talking about.
Speaker 9: And how it can be a little bit t M. I.
Speaker 5: Well, so I'm interested by a couple of things.
Speaker 1: So your family, So, as you said, you've made yourself
Speaker 1: available to this child who's clearly going through a really
Speaker 1: hard time. And you didn't have to do that. You
Speaker 1: don't know the gin, but you did it anyway. And
Speaker 1: it's interesting that your family is saying to you, like,
Speaker 1: why would you do that? And you're also kind of
Speaker 1: a little bit being like why would I do that?
Speaker 1: But but you're doing it, like something about like compelling
Speaker 1: you to want to be there for him and have
Speaker 1: that relationship.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I just felt bad for him because
Speaker 3: he was He's so young. It's just such a young
Speaker 3: age to lose his father. It's just I just feel
Speaker 3: bad for him.
Speaker 1: Do you think that? Is this all a recent thing?
Speaker 5: Sorry?
Speaker 1: Is this all a very kind of recent thing?
Speaker 6: And this year? This year?
Speaker 5: Yeah, have you maintained a relationship with anyone else?
Speaker 1: And in kind of that side of his.
Speaker 5: Not so much.
Speaker 3: Okay, Initially we were talking and she seemed okay, we
Speaker 3: were like on good terms, I would say, but things
Speaker 3: turned downhill pretty soon and now we're like not really talking.
Speaker 3: But if I need to inform her of things. I'll
Speaker 3: still message her. Yeah, tell me.
Speaker 1: Uh So this this trip to Tokyo, is it like
Speaker 1: a Is it like a decompression for you?
Speaker 9: Definitely?
Speaker 1: I mean it sounds like you've been through a whole
Speaker 1: hell of a lot.
Speaker 9: Yeah, definitely. I I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't have like solid plans about where I have
Speaker 3: to go, So I just go by feeling like I don't.
Speaker 9: I don't wake up.
Speaker 3: Super early in the morning and oh I have to
Speaker 3: go to this place and slip this place.
Speaker 9: No, I don't do that, So I'm just take it easy,
Speaker 9: go with the floor, sit down and talk to you people.
Speaker 1: Are you? Are you? Did you just come here by yourself?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm on my own now. But tomorrow I'll be
Speaker 3: meeting my brother.
Speaker 1: Oh great, great, great great. How has it been traveling
Speaker 1: by yourself?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 9: I love it. I love it.
Speaker 3: I don't need to look after anybody else is feeling
Speaker 3: all that decided to go somewhere that I don't want
Speaker 3: to go right right.
Speaker 1: It's it's a symbolic thing because it's it seems like
Speaker 1: you've been looking after so many other people and like,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of in the in the weeds, of
Speaker 1: all this stuff with all these other people, and then
Speaker 1: you just have this time completely. Yeah, yes, very well deserved, grace.
Speaker 1: Thanks for sharing all of this stuff with us.
Speaker 9: Thank you for having.
Speaker 1: Of course good Is there anything else you want to
Speaker 1: say to the people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 9: Not really, thank you for listening, because.
Speaker 1: Have a fantastic rest of your.
Speaker 5: Time and talk.
Speaker 9: Thank you. Do you have like like do you do instagram?
Speaker 1: Instagram?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Well that was that was pretty interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Oh she was so nice. She had such a great energy.
Speaker 1: It's so it's so interesting because it's like every time
Speaker 1: I do this, it's like you can sit for forty
Speaker 1: minutes and nobody comes to talk to you, and and
Speaker 1: even if someone does, maybe they seem a little shy,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden someone comes in, you know, kind.
Speaker 5: Of with everything.
Speaker 9: I'm glad you did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, how are you feeling, Kiko good?
Speaker 5: I are you okay? Tired of you?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 9: No, I'm good, I'm good. I wish that person would
Speaker 9: come talk to us.
Speaker 1: Oh me too. Maybe he will goes on the line
Speaker 1: making your phone calls every night. Ever goes.
Speaker 5: You're teaching your cloud your life.
Speaker 3: It's not really an expert,