1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Good luck with the most beautiful game? Do us proud 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: read a lot? They're a running a game so smoothe 3 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: so sweet, splendid sixteen just glorious execution. 4 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 2: Guys, all I'm looking for is sixty percent efforts four 5 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 2: thousand percent of the time. 6 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 3: How shot with that? 7 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 4: Shop with mine? 8 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: Good buddy, And that's why you see your beautiful tiers. 9 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 4: Look at his movements, the. 10 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 3: Most dangerous amount of the planet. Nobody picture them. 11 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 4: Shut up. I'm trying again. 12 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: The all it's left to one, the wide eyed drill refuge. 13 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: How old Earth picked that happens? 14 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 4: Hello everybody, Welcome back to One Ago, the Soccer Betting 15 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 4: podcast from the Action Network, presented to you by our 16 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 4: new sponsor, Bettery six five, the best sports book in 17 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 4: the world. This is our Champions League betting preview. We'll 18 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 4: take a look at some outright bets we like, some 19 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 4: long shots. We'll go group by group, give out some 20 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 4: bets we like and as many groups as we have, 21 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 4: and then we'll wrap this thing up and get back 22 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 4: to our normal programming with our Thursday morning show looking 23 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 4: at the Premier League, et cetera. A quick overview of 24 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 4: the odds to win the Champions League. These are of 25 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 4: course at BET three six five man City. No surprise here, 26 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 4: they're the champions plus two to fifty. Then it goes 27 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 4: to PSG plus five hundred, Liverpool just behind them plus 28 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 4: five fifty, Bayron plus six fifty, Real Madrid nine to one, 29 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 4: Tottenham fourteen to one. It's a little short Chelsea sixteen 30 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 4: to one, Barcelona twenty to one, at Letty twenty eight 31 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 4: to one, Juve forty to one, Enter fifty to one, 32 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 4: Dortmund fifty to one, ac Milan sixty six to one, 33 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 4: IX one hundred to one. So are Leipzig, Porto, Napoli, Salzburg, 34 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 4: they're all one hundred and fifty to one, Bayer Leverkusen 35 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 4: two hundred to one, Sevia two fifty to one. So 36 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 4: our Celtic Frankfurt Rangers, ben Fica, Marseille, BJ's boys they're 37 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 4: four hundred to one, Sporting Bruges five hundred to one. 38 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 4: Then Copenhagen, Shoktar Dinomo Zagreb, Victoria Pleasant out of the 39 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:16,119 Speaker 4: Czech Republic, and then Maculbee Haifa out of Israel. They're 40 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 4: all true, true long shots in the quadruple digits. So 41 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 4: BJ we just ran through the odds. I think we 42 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 4: do have some agreement on one team all three of 43 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 4: us like for a bet, but what is your favorite outright? 44 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: I like Barcelona at twenty to one. I think that's 45 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: a little high, and I think you're getting this price 46 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: at twenty to one because they're in a group of 47 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: death with Inter and Bayern Munich. I mean, since Shavi 48 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: took over on November sixth to twenty twenty one, Barcelona 49 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: has about a one expected gold differential per ninety minutes. 50 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: That is, only teams that have done better than that 51 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: since that date are City, Liverpool, Bayron, Intern PSG. And 52 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: you have to factor in also that La Liga is 53 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: clearing away this second most difficult league in Europe. So 54 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 1: very impressive stuff from Shaby. Then you look at what 55 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: they got in the transfer and though they bring in 56 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: Robert Lemanowski, who you know, obviously he's getting older, but 57 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: last season he was a one point zero eight XG 58 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: per ninety minute striker. Now you have maybe those numbers 59 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: will go down a little bit in La Liga versus 60 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 1: the open Bundesliga. But now they have a reliable striking 61 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: option which they didn't have last year. And you know 62 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: the pieces they also brought in you know, put aside 63 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: whatever's going on with their financials right now, but they 64 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: bring in Rafina and Franic Casse from Nacy Milan. They 65 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: just brought in Julis Koonde to shore up their defense. 66 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: So this is a really, really good team. And listen, 67 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: we all know the history with Bayern in this group, 68 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: and if they get out of this group, there's no 69 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: way they're going to be sitting at twenty to one, 70 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: no matter who they draw in the round of sixteen. 71 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: You look at how much they've changed under Shabi versus 72 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: where they were under Komen. They now lead La Liga 73 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: and pass per defensive action, high turnovers and pressure success right. 74 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: They turned into a really really good pressing team. They 75 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: also have one hundred and sixty seven build up attacks 76 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: under Shabi. The only teams that have more than that 77 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: among Europe's top five leagues are sitting in Real Madrid. 78 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: And so I like Barcelona at twenty to one. I 79 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: think it's a really good price for a team that 80 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: could make a big step forward adding Lewandowski. So let's 81 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: be honest, like if they were in Tottham's position in 82 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: that group, and how easy that group is Barcelona be 83 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: ten to one to win the Champions League. So I 84 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: think you're getting an inflated price basically betting on them 85 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 1: trying to get out of this group. And then yeah, 86 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: at twenty to one, I think it's a fantastic price 87 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: for you know, essentially a top six team in the world. Yeah. 88 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 4: I like the price on Barcelona too, I like another 89 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:33,799 Speaker 4: team in La Liga. This is a bet I basically 90 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 4: make every season. 91 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 1: At I'm with you on this one too. One. 92 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, if you're always out though, this is how this 93 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 4: goes over and then you change your tune as we 94 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 4: get towards the knockout stages. Here's their group Bruge Porto 95 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 4: Leverkus and their minus three fifty two advance. They should 96 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 4: get through that. Remember last year they took City to 97 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 4: the wire. They lost one nil on aggregate across two 98 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 4: legs in an absolute circus at the wander Metropolitano at 99 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 4: the end there. But that's what they do. They're just 100 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 4: a really tough team to knock out in these one 101 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 4: off legs, so that's why I like buying them last 102 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 4: three seasons. Of course, this is La Liga, so it's 103 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 4: a much more defensive league. But forty three goals against 104 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 4: thirty five point eight expected goals, previous year twenty five 105 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 4: against on thirty five point seven expected goals, and then 106 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 4: the year before that twenty seven goals against thirty five 107 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 4: and a half expectacle. So this is just a defensive powerhouse. 108 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:27,119 Speaker 4: Under Simeoni, we know that they're just an absolute bear 109 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 4: to deal with as we get deeper in the competition, 110 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 4: and they'll get there, maybe a little bit of a 111 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 4: kinder draw for at Letti this time around, and who knows, 112 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 4: we'll see them make a little bit. 113 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 2: Of a run. 114 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 4: Anthony, you also like Barcelona, so I think all three 115 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 4: of us will be in on that one. But you 116 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 4: have another one for us. 117 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I took Barcelona this morning. 118 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 4: You know. 119 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 3: I think that group is really fascinating, of course because 120 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 3: of intern, because of Barson, because of Bayern, and how 121 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 3: that plays out and who gets first will have a 122 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 3: major impact on the seating, right because of how the 123 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 3: draw work. So if you win your group, you get 124 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 3: a much easier most likely get a much easier and 125 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 3: this year especially you get a much easier you know, 126 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 3: Round of sixteen match, and that helps your odds. But 127 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 3: the reality is, you know, BJ mentioned the additions in house. 128 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 3: Barsa has a lot of interesting pieces. Between Pedri, Gavi 129 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 3: and Fati, I think they have three extremely young, encouraging 130 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 3: profile midfielders who all could take steps forward this season. 131 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 3: Pedri obviously we know what he can do. He had 132 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 3: that incredible Euros. He looked a little bit and he 133 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 3: had a couple of injury issues last year. He wasn't 134 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 3: at his best and I think a lot of that 135 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 3: was fixed your pile up. 136 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 2: Well, this year he's going. 137 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 3: To get a full off season and you know, by 138 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 3: the spring post World Cup break, I think, you know, 139 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 3: he could be back to his normal self. Fati missed 140 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 3: so much time his abit, you know, he adds so 141 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 3: much to this attack. And Osmani denballe is still hit 142 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 3: the club and looked excellent against Sociadad and therefore one win. 143 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 2: And he is another guy who is kind of. 144 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 3: The post hype breakout candidate, right he you know, a 145 00:06:58,240 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 3: lot of people claimed he was the third best player 146 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 3: in the world a few years ago. He had so 147 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 3: many injury issues. But when he's on the pitch, if 148 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 3: he's healthy, I mean, he's he's an incredible winger. So 149 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of pieces on this Barsa 150 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 3: team that have that give them an incredibly high ceiling 151 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 3: and a pretty low floor just because of the defensive 152 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 3: woes that kind of still exist, and then the chobby 153 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 3: system has not necessarily covered those. But I think there's 154 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 3: a good chance to uh, you know, you're getting to 155 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 3: floor on Barsa here. I don't think you're getting to 156 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 3: floor on Byron. But I'm gonna hope that they come 157 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 3: in second in the group and then I'm gonna buy 158 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 3: Byron because I do think they've looked incredibly impressive in 159 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 3: the Bundesliga. Whatever you make of their dominance of a 160 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 3: weaker league, so be it. But they still made additions 161 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 3: with Musiala now you know, as their potential breakout superstar. 162 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 3: I think he's going to be one mane replacing Lewandowski. 163 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 3: Production they did upgrade the defense, even though it wasn't 164 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 3: evident in the glade Bach match with the Oopen mccona mistake. 165 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 3: But I do think Byron still has an ability to 166 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 3: get up through the tier above PSG, above Liverpool. I 167 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 3: don't think they're there right now, but I do think that, 168 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 3: you know, come second in the group, we get maybe 169 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 3: like in ten to one, I'm going to be interested. 170 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 3: So that's my other team that I'm looking to buy 171 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 3: in again after we were selling them so hard, you know, 172 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 3: the last couple of years with with you know, the 173 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 3: famous Submarines. 174 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 2: But yes, I'm looking. 175 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 3: To buy some Byron as well, so targeting that group. 176 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 3: So now naturally inter will win it. 177 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 4: Because of that. All right, let's look at some long 178 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 4: shots we like. Last year we talked about via Real. 179 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 4: They got painfully close, and that's what you're looking at here. 180 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 4: You're looking at a bet on a team to do that, 181 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 4: because long shots don't win the Champions League, but they 182 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 4: can come close. Last five seasons, we've seen Leon, Leipsig, 183 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 4: i Ax, Spurs, via Real and Roma all you know, 184 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 4: big prices at varying, Atalanta as well, had Alanta, right, yeah. 185 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 2: Make make five minutes from the semis deep runs. 186 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 4: Yeah well those were just semi finalists, a lot that 187 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 4: didn't get through there. But these teams come close, but 188 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 4: they just never win it. 189 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 3: For me, I like. 190 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 4: Leipzig at one hundred to one. Their group is manageable. 191 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 4: Real Madrid Celtic Shock Dart minus four fifty to just 192 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 4: get through. They overperformed offensively last year, but the defense 193 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 4: got a lot better after Jesse Marsh left under Domenico Tedesco. 194 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 4: Sixteen point six expected goals and fifteen goals allowed in 195 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 4: their last seventeen matches went twelve, four and four. Windrow 196 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 4: lost to end the season with a robust plus twenty 197 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 4: eight goal differential and a basically plus twenty expected goal 198 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 4: differential in those last twenty matches in Bundesliga. So it's 199 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 4: a team that I'm at triple digits. I think you 200 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 4: can make an argument between them and Leverkusen as the 201 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 4: two value long shots at this section of the board. 202 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 4: BJ you're going somewhere else, but I'll probably sprinkle both 203 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 4: Leipzig and Leverkusen. But Leipzig I think has the better 204 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 4: chance to pay off at at triple digch dots. 205 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna go Napoli at one hundred and fifty 206 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: to one. I understand they've lost quite a bit during 207 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: this trans window. They lost Kabali to Chelsea, they lose 208 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: Fabian Ruiz to PSG, moves on to Galatasaray and Signae. 209 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: You know is obviously over at MLS with Toronto FC. 210 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: But this is a team that finished top ten and 211 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: expected goal diffrenchial per ninety minutes in Europe only allowed 212 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: point eight four xtually per ninety minutes. So even then, 213 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: though they lose Kubali, they still keep the rest of 214 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: their defense and you know they'll take a little bit 215 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: of a step back, but they're stilln't allow under one 216 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: expected goal for ninety minutes in Syria. Ah, they also 217 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: have one of the best strikers in Europe. I mean, 218 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: Oceman has been awesome. Now for now, yeah, we'll see, 219 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: if we'll see before the trans window closes. You know, 220 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: if if somehow he moves for one hundred million do 221 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: in another club, then just you know, cancel this bet. 222 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: But you know, zero point six at a non penalty 223 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: XG scoring rate per ninety minutes, that's ninety five percentile 224 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: in Europe. You also look what they added in the midfield. 225 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: They're bringing Guisa from Fulham, who I'm very high on, 226 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: really nice defensive midfielder to make up for what Ruiz 227 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: brought to them. They also add in don'ble from Tottenham, 228 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: who who's you know, hopefully we'll have a resurgence for 229 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: his career. And they aren't a difficult group. I mean Liverpool, 230 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: IAX and Ranger is a pretty tough group. It's an 231 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: underrated tough group. But if they can get through that 232 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: and you can get them into the round of sixteen 233 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: with this defense and a really really good striker, I 234 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: mean they they could potentially make some noise and get 235 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 1: if they get a favorable draw, it can happen. So 236 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: when we saw last year with iax IX, you know, 237 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: it's not similar to this group, but you know they 238 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: got into the round of sixteen and they got a 239 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: good draw and they just didn't capitalize on it. So 240 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: you know, Napoli with this type of defense at one 241 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty to one, you know they've already looked 242 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: amazing through three matches in Syria. So I do like 243 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,599 Speaker 1: Napoli at one hundred and fifty to one as a 244 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: potential long shot. 245 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 4: All right, let's start with NAPOLIESE Group group at Liverpool 246 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 4: minus three fifty odds on to win it, IX plus 247 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 4: six fifty to win it, Napoli plus six fifty Rangers 248 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 4: fourteen to one at bet three sixty five to win 249 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 4: Group A. I think it sets up like you said, 250 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 4: interesting it It looks like a three horse race for 251 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 4: that second spot between IX, Napoli and Rangers. The way 252 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 4: I'm playing this one is I'm just kind of gonna 253 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 4: fade i X. I think that they could be in 254 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 4: a little bit of trouble here with all the turnover 255 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 4: that just lost Anthony to not to Bundo that the 256 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 4: soccer player Anthony to to Manchester United. So it's that's 257 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 4: just the way I'm been played. I like Napoli, like 258 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 4: you said, the defense is stellar. Rangers could be a 259 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 4: tough one, like a tough nut to crack. Their first 260 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 4: trip to the group stages of the Champions LEAGUEES in 261 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 4: over a decade, so you know, Eyebrocks will be rocking. 262 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 4: So this is a group that I think you just 263 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 4: target a couple of teams. I think we all know 264 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 4: Liverpool will be inflated and I think i X might 265 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 4: be a little inflated off of their Champions League success 266 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 4: over the past couple of seasons. Anthony, what do you 267 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 4: have for groupe? 268 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 3: This is the most balanced group top to bottom. I 269 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 3: think very clearly if you look at the you know 270 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 3: the strength ratings of each of these four teams. I 271 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 3: don't love a ton from a betting perspective to be 272 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 3: completely honest, I think, you know, the bet that BJ 273 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 3: is gonna make is an interesting one. But Rangers were 274 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,719 Speaker 3: a little bit fortunate last year in their Europa League run. 275 00:12:57,760 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 3: I mean, if we, you know, we can go down 276 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 3: the list of the of the expected goals from not 277 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 3: just necessarily the group stage, but the knockout round, and 278 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 3: they ran really well to get to where they did. 279 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 3: And I think that there's a bunch of defensive regression 280 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 3: coming for Rangers as they face these better teams. With 281 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 3: that being said, I think you can make a case 282 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 3: that IAX and Napoli are going to be worse than 283 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 3: they were last year. And Napoli, of course, is going 284 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 3: to very much hinge on Victor ocimn. The latest rumor 285 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,839 Speaker 3: is that they might be taking on Ronaldo and selling 286 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 3: OSSI men, if so, I'd like to sell all the 287 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 3: Napoli stock that there is. 288 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 2: But I Ax too. 289 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 3: I mean, they got raided, they lost Holaire, they lost Antony, 290 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 3: they lose lisan here Martinez. They kind of go through 291 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 3: these cycles, right, and every third year maybe is when 292 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 3: IX has a really good squad of players, and it 293 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,719 Speaker 3: feels like this is last year was their moment and 294 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:51,359 Speaker 3: they missed their moment with that you brutal loss to Benficas. 295 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 2: So I don't love a ton in this group. 296 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 3: I'm and ultimately saying away, I just can't really get 297 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 3: around to betting any of those three teams, even though 298 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 3: I think generally they're they're pretty competitive, the scrip should 299 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 3: be pretty competitive. 300 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 2: After Liverpool wins going away. 301 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 4: BJ, You you do think that this is a fun 302 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 4: one to bet. 303 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this is going to kind of be 304 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: a theme throughout most of these Champions League groups, is 305 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: that you know they're not We've talked about this internally, 306 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: but they're not as interesting as they were last year. Like, 307 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: we don't have a situation like City and PSG in 308 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: the same group, or potentially an i AX type situation. 309 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: So if you want a team that you know is 310 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: potentially at the bottom of the group that fits the 311 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: profile someon of to what Anthony's saying, Rangers fits this profile. 312 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: I mean, do we forget they lost on penalties in 313 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: the Europa League Final to Frankfurt, not even you know, 314 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: three or four months ago. You know, throughout that Europa 315 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: League run, they took down two German teams, they took 316 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: down Dortmund, they took down RB Leipzig. Actually was you know, 317 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: it wasn't too drastic. You know, they obviously were negative 318 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: for both of those, but it wasn't like they just 319 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: got completely run over by those two teams. And listen, 320 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: they they did lose Calvin Bassi to IAX, funny enough 321 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: because he's gonna have to play them, and Rebo to Southampton, 322 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: but their core players like Tavin Yeh Kent and Morelos 323 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: are still in the squad. This is still a team now. 324 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: They've experienced in Europe, having that you know, run in 325 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: the Europa League, so transfer transit. It's not like it's 326 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: a Macaba haafia who's never played in the Champions League 327 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: before and has to come in and say, oh my gosh, 328 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: what do we do? Like Rangers has experience now playing 329 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: against these top you know, at least you know, big 330 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: five league squads, and you already mentioned with IAX. I mean, yeah, 331 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: they got rated. You know, the four guys they lost 332 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: are big, big time losses. And I think we're still 333 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: seeing a price a little inflated on them. I mean 334 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: they're they're minus two forty at home against Rangers in 335 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: the first match. I think that's I think that's a 336 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: little high given what i AX has lost. I mean, 337 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: but even before the four losses from from i AX, 338 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: you know the four main players, I would have had 339 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: i AX at minus one forty. Now you take those 340 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: four guys away, I'm at i AX around plus one 341 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: oh five. So when they go play at the eyebroxs, 342 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm probably gonna have Rangers as a slight 343 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: favorite over them. So you know, I just mentioned happily 344 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: as a long shot. That's more of a just a 345 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: longer thing. I don't really want to play them at 346 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: plus one twenty in this group, Like, that's not a 347 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: good price, good enough price for me to play. So 348 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a shot on Rangers at four to one. 349 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: I mean, who cares about Liverpool? They'll win this group, 350 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: who cares? I think Rangers is definitely live, having that 351 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: Europa League experience last year and having a squad that 352 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: truly believes in themselves as an underdog, and having you know, 353 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: going to the Europa League finals. So I like Rangers 354 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: at four to one to qualify. 355 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 4: Group B is headlined by at LETTI already talked about 356 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 4: how bj and I like them as an outright they 357 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 4: are the smallest favorite to win a group there minus 358 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 4: one ten still odds on Porto behind them plus three hundred, 359 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 4: Leverkusen also three to one, and Througe twelve to one. 360 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 4: I think I'm passing here from a group any perspective, 361 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 4: but I will say that it's not a bad one 362 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 4: to target a long shot price to win the group 363 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 4: on Bruges maybe, or Leverkusen or Porta, whoever you want, 364 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 4: because it does seem like this is the only one 365 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 4: where the favorite is truly vulnerable to not win it. 366 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 4: I still think Letty gets through, but last year, I 367 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 4: mean it was it was all Chock that won their groups. 368 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 4: You've a lil in what was that that crazy wide 369 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 4: open group United Bayern, Madrid, I ex Liverpool City. So 370 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 4: usually don't really see too many underdogs take down the 371 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 4: group they do advance. We'll talk about that a little bit. 372 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 4: I like Leverkusen as a long shot outright, but that's 373 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 4: about it for for me for this group, and so 374 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 4: between them and at Letty, I'll just be investing on 375 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 4: them to do to do the damn thing, Anthony, anything 376 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 4: for you here. 377 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's it's hard for me to decide 378 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 3: whether I want to take Porto or Leverkusen as my 379 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,360 Speaker 3: team to bet on to steal the group from Atleti. 380 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 3: I mean Adleti and Porto were in the same group 381 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 3: last year. They played six matches. A Letti had a 382 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 3: minus point four expected goal differential. Porto had a minus 383 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 3: point six expected gold differential. It came down to the 384 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 3: final day. Porto had a It was a weird game. 385 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 3: Not much happened in the first half, then Porto got 386 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 3: a red card, and then it went into in haywire 387 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 3: and and let you ran away with it in the 388 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 3: second half. But overall, you know, I thought Porto were 389 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 3: the second best team on on on the merits of 390 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 3: that entire group, and I'm not sure that the gap 391 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 3: is as big as the market indicates on those two teams. 392 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 3: So I would look to play Porto, and I also 393 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,959 Speaker 3: like Leverkusen. I think their style. It's a very much 394 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 3: a matchup of contrasting styles when you look at how 395 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 3: Porto plays and how I'd let you plays and how 396 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 3: Leverkusin is going to set up. But again, I think 397 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 3: Leverkusen has made improvements and. 398 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 2: It hasn't shown yet in the Bundesliga. 399 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 3: They're one in three and four matches and they're you know, 400 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 3: they're they've they've definitely struggled, but Florian Vertz will be 401 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 3: back shortly soon soon. At least, I do think that 402 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 3: they have a decent chance to win this group. You 403 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 3: look at some of their underlying numbers from last year 404 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 3: in the Europa League. They were pretty good. So I'm 405 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 3: buying Leverkusen and I'm tempted to also buy Porto and 406 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 3: just play both, but I don't love that, so I'm 407 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 3: going to take Leverkusen as my official pick in this 408 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 3: group to win it at plus three fifth BJ. 409 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 4: You are also targeting one of those two teams here. 410 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:06,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like Porto at three to one. I mean, 411 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 1: Anthony already mentioned it. You know, the last season they 412 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: were in the same group and they're expected goldiferential was 413 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: pretty much the same and when they met, essentially over 414 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: the two meetings, I mean, at Letty barely beat them 415 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: on XG it was two point eight to two point six. 416 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: Now Porto has lost a couple guys, you know, the 417 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: lost Bettina and Fabrio Vieira in the midfield, but they 418 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: did you know, they still have all of their attacking 419 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: options they had last year, Pepe still there. They brought 420 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 1: in David Carmo over from Braga to make up for 421 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: Chancello and Bemba leaving from Marseille. And while I'm with you, 422 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 1: Michael that I like Athletico as potential outright to win 423 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: the Champions League because of how difficult they are to 424 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: deal within a knockout stage. Over the last two group stages, 425 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: they have a minus point one expected goldiffronchial. The year 426 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: before that they were with Bayern Salzburg and Locomotive Moscow 427 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 1: like that was an easy group, and then last year 428 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: they obviously got paired in a pretty difficult group with Liverpool, 429 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: A Simlon and Porto. But Porto, you know, they won 430 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: the Portuguese League last year with a plus one point 431 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: six to two expected goal differential per ninety minutes. You know, 432 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: by UEFA coefficients, Portugal is the sixth best league in 433 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: the world. And the gap between them and Germany, if 434 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: we're comparing them to Leverkusen, it's actually closer than the 435 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: gap between Germany and the Premier League. So you have Leverkusen, 436 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: who we you know, faded quite a bit last year. 437 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: They were only at a point five to nine actually 438 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: differential per ninety minutes. So you have Porto who's essentially 439 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: a goal better in a league that I wouldn't I 440 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: in my projections, I wouldn't give them a full goal 441 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: as the difference between the German and Portuguese leagues. And 442 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: I mean it makes sense, right because you know how 443 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 1: many teams from Portugal made the Round of sixteen last 444 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,199 Speaker 1: year too, how many minutes from Germany one. So you 445 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: know it's you can you can say what you will, 446 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,239 Speaker 1: But yeah, I love portoitt three to one. I think 447 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: Athleti's very vulnerable to not win this group. This is 448 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: an incredible defensive team. You know, they're they're a bear 449 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 1: to deal with, only twenty one unexpected goals allowed in 450 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: thirty four matches domestically last season. So I like Portoa 451 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: three to one. 452 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 4: All right, let's talk quickly about Groups C, because we 453 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 4: talked a lot about Byron and Barsia at the top 454 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,439 Speaker 4: of the show. Byron is minus one sixty three to 455 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 4: win the group. Barcelona plus one seventy five enter eight 456 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 4: to one. Victoria Pleasant out of Czech Republic, they are 457 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 4: one hundred to one to win the group. A cool 458 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 4: note about them is the dugouts at their stadium are 459 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 4: shaped like beer cans, so that'll be a nice aesthetic 460 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 4: when we watch them get romped by Byron Barson inter 461 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 4: I think Barcelona drew. If you're going to bet Barcelona 462 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 4: to win the group, you probably should do it now 463 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 4: because they have Victoria Pleasant first, so they're plus one 464 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 4: seventy five. Anthony, you've talked about how you're buying Barcelona 465 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 4: a big picture, just real quick sum up, while you 466 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 4: like them to win the group at this prist as well. 467 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I just talked about Byron right, and 468 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 3: I think the gap is not that big between these 469 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 3: two teams. And that's the main reason why I'm not 470 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 3: gonna by Bayern at eighty to one to win the 471 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 3: Champions League. But if they drift or if they finished second, 472 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 3: which is what the ideal scenario for me here is 473 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 3: that Barsa is going to win this group, that makes 474 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 3: my twenty to one really good and then I'm going 475 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 3: to be able to get a better number on Byron 476 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 3: to win the Champions League as the second place team. 477 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 3: With that being said, I just don't think there's a 478 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 3: huge gap between these two teams. You go back, and 479 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,479 Speaker 3: you know BJ will tell you as well. You know, 480 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 3: Spain is much better than Germany, and Germany I think 481 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 3: is trending in the wrong direction. I mean, I think 482 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 3: all of the non England leagues are kind of getting 483 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 3: more mushed together just because of how the money has 484 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 3: shifted across and I think that makes the EPL generally 485 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 3: undervalued in Europe. 486 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 2: But I'm not sure how. 487 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 3: Undervalued they are if you look at Europa League Gods 488 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 3: as well with Arsenal United. That being said, Barsa have 489 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 3: made a ton of improvements. I don't need to go 490 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 3: into it again, but I think that these two teams 491 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 3: are pretty comparable and so I'm going to get plus 492 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 3: one seventy. The thing about this is that Inter is 493 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 3: a difficult side. And look, they gave Real Madrid a 494 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 3: ton of problems last year, so I think, you know, 495 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 3: even though they didn't get a result in near of 496 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 3: those games, they were better across six matches then Real 497 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 3: Madrid was. The question is another year away from Kante, 498 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 3: they do lose Parisitch, they bring in Lucaku. I'm not 499 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 3: sure what to make of Inter at the moment, actually, 500 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 3: and I know I liked them coming into the season. 501 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 3: I still think they're the best team in Italy, but 502 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 3: this is the worst Siria like ever in a recent 503 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 3: recent memory, and so I'm kind of skeptical on them 504 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 3: competing with Barsa and buying at the top of the group. 505 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 2: And we'll see. 506 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 3: With that being said, i think I'm going to be 507 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 3: on Inter in the first game, so we will see. 508 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 1: There's a case for Inter, not necessarily maybe to qualify, 509 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: but maybe to win this group. I mean, if you 510 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: just purely looking at numbers, and you know, obviously Syria 511 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: eyes down, but you know, so was the Bundesliga. You know, 512 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: they were one point one one actually differential per ninety minutes, 513 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: which was fourth in Europe, and they had Lucaku, so 514 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: you would think that, okay, they're actually maybe an improv 515 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 1: And even if you look at their group with Real 516 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 1: Madrid last year, I mean, they had a better expected 517 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 1: goal differential in the group than Real Madrid. They were 518 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 1: plus seven point eight, realm Drid plus five point nine, 519 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: and they beat Real Madrid on xt G combined over 520 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: the two meetings three point two to two. So and 521 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: then you know, go to the round of sixteen, you know, 522 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: they obviously went down to Liverpool in the first leg. 523 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 1: They gave him a huge scare at anfield, So like 524 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: there is a case for inter. 525 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 2: Yours game was even two. Yeah, it wasn't. There was 526 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 2: not much in that game. 527 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 3: I'm going to probably be betting inter pot amount in 528 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 3: this group, but in terms of actually winning it, I 529 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 3: will be. I will be betting Barsa, which I guess 530 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 3: is kind of weird to say, but I ultimately do 531 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 3: think that this comes down to Biron and Barsa. And 532 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 3: even though pron has dominated the recent history of the meetings, 533 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 3: Barcelona and has has improved enough to close the gap. 534 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 2: And for that reason, I will be taking some Barsa right. 535 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: And so you know, with with Enter their minus one 536 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: tend to qualify. There's no way, I'm no way number, 537 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: no chance I'm betting that number. You know, eight to 538 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: one gets a little interesting to win the group. Yeah, 539 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think Intro will be more 540 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: of a team that will be betting on an individual 541 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 1: match basis throughout the group stage. 542 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 4: Group D then Spurs minus two hundred to win it 543 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 4: at bet three six five Frankfurt They're wonderful. Europa League 544 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 4: triumph plus five fifty Marseille plus fly fifty Sporting out 545 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 4: of Portugal. They're seven to one. Are They're interesting to 546 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:14,199 Speaker 4: me just from a stylistic standpoint, twenty three goals against 547 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 4: in Portugal last season, which is just absurd. 548 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,199 Speaker 1: Off of twenty two expected too. Yeah, it's it's just 549 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: I love this group so much. 550 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a funny one. 551 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: I love this. 552 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 2: I mean, you're as ast fan I love this group. 553 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 4: It's yeah, it's it's it's. 554 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 2: I'm laying the chalk here. 555 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: Who wants to talk about top in this group? Honestly, 556 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: I'm laying the chalk so much more. 557 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 3: I think is the best group Spurs could have possibly imagined. 558 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 3: I mean, obviously, like Yees got, they could have got 559 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 3: a Makubie Heifa or you know, somebody else at the 560 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 3: bottom of the table, Victoria Pleasant instead of Marseille. Sure, 561 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 3: but you know, we've talked about Marseille top of league 562 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 3: gone by the way after four matches. We've talked about 563 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 3: Marseille enough on this show that people know that we 564 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 3: think they're pretty overrated. 565 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 2: And I still believe that's very much the case. Frankfurt 566 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 2: has actually regressed. 567 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 4: You know. 568 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 3: The argument with Frankfort was at the end of last season, 569 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 3: they fell hard in the Bundesliga. Was that because they 570 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 3: were focusing on Europa League or because they're just not 571 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 3: any good? The early returns from the twenty twenty two 572 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 3: Bundesliga season suggests that they're just not very good, and 573 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 3: that's kind of how I felt about them coming into 574 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 3: the year. They get pasted by Byron, they steal a 575 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 3: win against Verde Bremen, but they're you know, barely hanging 576 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 3: on against Colne. You know, there's a lot of red 577 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 3: flags with this Frankfurt team, and Lisbon is probably the 578 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 3: second best team in the group. So I agree with 579 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 3: bj on Lisbon and you guys talked about their defense. 580 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 4: It is good. 581 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 3: I don't think it will be as good because it's 582 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 3: very hard to maintain that level of elite defending and 583 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 3: you know, regression is inevitable. But I don't think any 584 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 3: of them hold the candle to Spurs. So I'm laying 585 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 3: the chalk shopped around. You find them as one sixty 586 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 3: happy to lay it on Spurs to win this group. 587 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 4: Anthony is a homer going to lay the juice with 588 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 4: Spurs here. I like Sporting as a potential long shot 589 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 4: to win the group seven to one. It's just funny. 590 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 4: I feel like of the teams in this quartet, the 591 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 4: team that Spurs will have the most trouble with will 592 00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 4: be Sporting because neither one of them are gonna want 593 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 4: the ball. So if you look at it like, okay, 594 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 4: let's say they split their games, or Sporting is able 595 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 4: to nick a win somehow against them, in Spurs lea 596 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 4: it does somewhere, I think there's just a path open 597 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 4: for them because, like you said, Frankfurt vulnerable, Marseille vulnerable. 598 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 4: So I look at it almost like a two horse 599 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 4: race between the team that's minus two hundred and then 600 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 4: the team that's seven to one in a weird way, 601 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 4: So why wouldn't I take the seven to one BJ? 602 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 4: What do you think here? 603 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: I can't believe they took They put my two biggest 604 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 1: fade teams in the same group. I couldn't believe it. 605 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 1: So yeah, I love Sporting Lisbon at two to one 606 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 1: to qualify. So, I mean, I've talked about Marseilles so 607 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 1: many times, but even this so far this season, ten 608 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,360 Speaker 1: goals off four point nine expected, three goals all out 609 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: off of five point nine expected, Like they're doing it again. 610 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 1: They don't have Saliva, who is their best defender last year, 611 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 1: so offensively they're going to regress. I mean since the 612 00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: start of last season, Marseille is at plus point five 613 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: XG differential per ninety minutes, which isn't bad. But let's 614 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: talk you way for coefficients now how much I love 615 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: talking about those. France is at sixty point one, Portugal 616 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: is at fifty three point four. The gap is not 617 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: that big between these two leagues. And Sporting Lisbon last 618 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: season made the round of sixteen out of a group 619 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 1: of Dortmund, IAX and Bashitas. Essentially what they did they 620 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: got paceed by i AX, they beat up on Bashitas 621 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 1: and then against over the two legs against Dortmund they 622 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: actually beat them on XG two point one to two. 623 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: So if we're talking you way for coefficients, then we're 624 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 1: talking to expect a goal differential per ninety minutes. Well, 625 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: Lisbon was at one point four to one in the 626 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: Portuguese League last season, so and their defense only allowed 627 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: point sixty five XG per ninety minutes. So you have 628 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: a team was essentially almost a goal better per ninety 629 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: minutes than Marseille. With a gap between the two leagues. 630 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: That really isn't that drastic. I mean, I love Sporting 631 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 1: Lisbon at two to one to qualify from this group 632 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: Anthiary Frankfort. I mean, yeah, they won't the Europa League. Cool, 633 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: but I mean I just don't ely see how you 634 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: can't play Sporting Lisbon to qualify in this group. I mean, 635 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: this is gonna be a really really fun group to 636 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: fade both Marseille and Frankfurt throughout the group stage, so. 637 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 4: You know how this one goes. Frankfurt first, Marseille second. 638 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: Group TA. I'm not gonna watch any of the Frankfurt 639 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: Marseille matches. I'm just I'm not. 640 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 2: Oh, I can't wait. I might be better. 641 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: It's gonna make it. It's just gonna make my blood boil. 642 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 4: All right, let's move to group by Chelsea odds on 643 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 4: minus three hundred at bet three six five Milan plus 644 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 4: three thirty three Salzburg ten to one, Dinamo Zagreb ab 645 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 4: out of Croatia. They're fifty to one to win the group. 646 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 4: By this point, I think everyone will agree looks like 647 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 4: a two horse race. But that the Salsburg team, man, 648 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 4: they are, They're a good Champions League side because they 649 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 4: kind of just romp through the Austrian Bundesliga and are 650 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 4: able to focus on the Champions League and not worry 651 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 4: too much about what's going on in their domestic league. 652 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 4: This is their fourth appearance in a row. They drew 653 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 4: with Bayern one one in that first leg in the 654 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 4: round of sixteen last year, and then they got rolled. 655 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 4: I do think that they could be a potential dark 656 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 4: course to get out of the group, but the price 657 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 4: is not good enough, probably because they just got out 658 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 4: of the group last year. So this is a pass 659 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 4: for me. It will be fun to watch teams go 660 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 4: to Dina Mozagreb again. Those crowds are always a lot 661 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 4: of fun. Anthony, what do you have here for Group B? 662 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 2: I've got absolutely nothing. 663 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 3: I was hoping to fade Chelsea potentially in the Champions League, 664 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 3: but the group they got was not one where I'm 665 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 3: really looking to do that. I think I'll be betting 666 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 3: Salisburg against Chelsea over six matches. 667 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 2: I don't really see Salsburg getting out of this. 668 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 3: The one interesting nugget was that Milan was so bad 669 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,239 Speaker 3: in the Champions League last year, and it was kind 670 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 3: of bizarre because they improved over the course of the 671 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 3: season in Syria, so part of me wonders was did 672 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 3: we just catch Milan at a bad time. I mean, 673 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 3: they played six games in September, October, November. They were 674 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 3: really bad in those six games, But you know, had 675 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 3: the Champions League group stage been taking place in January 676 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 3: for brain March, Milan have been better and Milan has 677 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 3: made some upgrades. But I really don't love anybody in 678 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 3: this group. I could see a case for Milan to 679 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 3: win it. If Milan, you know, they were really bad 680 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 3: in the Champions League, maybe they'll be unusually good in 681 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 3: the Champions League this year as a put, you know, 682 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 3: relative to their actual baseline Syria, and you know, it 683 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 3: all goes into the same average and what we think 684 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 3: of it Milan as a team. But overall, I still 685 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 3: think Chelsea's the best team. I could see the case 686 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 3: from Milan. 687 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 4: But I'm passing. 688 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 3: I don't really love the way this group sets up 689 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 3: in terms of I think there's a pretty solid hierarchy 690 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,239 Speaker 3: one to four. You if you really want to get 691 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 3: crazy and take some Salzburg to advance, and you think 692 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 3: Milan's taking advantage of an overrated Siria and you want 693 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 3: to fade them in Europe, I could definitely see that argument. 694 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 3: I mean, go look at Uventus, Acey Milan, everybody, Atlanta 695 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 3: struggled in Europe last year. Everybody struggled in Europe in 696 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 3: Italy except Enteria last year. So you know, maybe they're 697 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 3: just markets not caught up to Siria struggles. But overall 698 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 3: this is a past for me. 699 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 4: BJ you do have a bet here. 700 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I am going to take ac Milan at plus 701 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: three five to win the group. So this is more 702 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: of a should Chelsea be minus three hundred in this group? 703 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: That's that's quite high. I know the gap between the 704 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: Premier League and Syria is pretty drastic, but I mean, 705 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 1: if we're looking at you know, actually differential with per ninety, 706 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: Acey Milan was seventh in Europe at point seventy five. 707 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: Well Chelsea was just barely above them at point eight two. 708 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: So you know, if you're you could make the case 709 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 1: that the leagues are are pretty drastic, and you know, 710 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: make the case that AC Milan struggled in a difficult 711 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: group in the Champions League last season. But I mean 712 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: we've picked apart Chelsea all a lot on this podcast. 713 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: I mean, they have an aging midfield. We don't know 714 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: if they have a consistent goal scoring threat up top. 715 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: Uh and basically I mean with Chelsea, the way I 716 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: view them is just like they have really good wing backs, 717 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: like and that's you know, everywhere else I'm not like, 718 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 1: I'm kind of just like, eh, center backs and center backs. Yeah, 719 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: I mean, they're they're kind of aging if you think 720 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: about it. I mean, Kubali it's and Diago Silva are 721 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: kind of aginganams a little bit better. Yeah, it's I 722 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: mean yeah again, it's just there's there's some question marks 723 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: around Chelsea in this group, and I just don't think 724 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: they should be minus three hundred. You know, if you 725 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: look at the other teams, you know, we already mentioned 726 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: it Salzburg, you know, It's it's funny. It's just every 727 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: year they lose two or three of their best players. 728 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: They lose Aronson and they lose a Demi, and they 729 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: just continue to retool with young talents. They have a 730 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: guy be on the lookout, Benjamin Cesco, nineteen year old 731 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: striker who is gonna be going to RB Leipsig next year. 732 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: He's an electric Electric strikers. So youngest team again, the 733 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: youngest team again in the Champions League. Zagreb I mean, 734 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: I have to mention it that they knocked Tottenham out 735 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: of the Europa League two years ago and got out 736 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: of a group with they got out of a group 737 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: with west Ham, Gank and Rapid Vienna last year. So 738 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: they're not a pushover, like there's it's not They're not 739 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: a Victoria Pleasant or Macabai Hafiyas. So yeah, I'm taking 740 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: ac Mona plus three fifty, just purely based on the 741 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: fact that I think Chelsea is way overvalued at minus 742 00:33:59,160 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: three hundred wins. 743 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 3: The screw and the argument. You know that kind of 744 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 3: brings up your point. I mean, I think we all 745 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 3: hear you Milan is better than Juventus at the moment. 746 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 1: Yep. 747 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 3: Last year, Chelsea was like minus two hundred to win 748 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 3: this group and it was Chelsea, Juve and two duds 749 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 3: Malmo and. 750 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 2: The other team was zen It. 751 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 3: So you know, you're looking at it and you're like, 752 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 3: sALS Worg's better than Zenate Malmo despite our efforts to 753 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 3: bet them worth or maybe the worst team in the 754 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 3: tournament last year, and I don't think Zagreb is that. 755 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 3: And now you have a Chelsea team against Milan who's 756 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 3: probably better than Ve especially I mean the market perception 757 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 3: on Uve was much better last year. 758 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 2: We all didn't really buy. 759 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 3: That, but the market likes them even more against the 760 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 3: better Milan team. I mean, the market loved Uve last year. 761 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 3: That's why that was why it was where it was. 762 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 3: They didn't even win the group, they choked it away 763 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 3: in the final day. But I do think that is 764 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 3: interesting that now you're getting a ton more market respect 765 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 3: for Chelsea despite them being I think clearly a step 766 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 3: back all right. 767 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:59,280 Speaker 4: Group F Real Madrid, Harlow Ancelotti and the defending champions 768 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,240 Speaker 4: best manager in the world. Gotta love them minus five hundred. 769 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 4: Real Madrid are at bet three six five to top 770 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 4: Group F Leipzig five to one, Celtic fourteen to one, 771 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 4: Shocktar fifty to one. Real Madrid and Shocktar. They just 772 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 4: can't get away from each other in the Champions League. 773 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 4: I already made a case for Leipstick at the top 774 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 4: of the show as a long shot bet one hundred 775 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 4: and one to win the whole thing. Real Madrid is 776 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 4: probably a little too high here, but none of these 777 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 4: prices really interest me. You two, though, are both buying 778 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 4: another Scottish team. We got two Scottish teams in the 779 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 4: in the group stage here BJ make the case for Celtic. 780 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do like Celtic. A you know there are 781 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: plus three thirty three at Bet three sixty five. I mean, 782 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: Real Madrid's heavy favorites to win this group. I have 783 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: no interest in playing them out. I'll probably be looking 784 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 1: to honestly, I'll probably looking to fade them in the 785 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 1: first match against Celtic. Celtic back in the Champions League 786 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 1: for the first time since twenty seventeen. I mean, everybody 787 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 1: take this to the greatest salt as it is the 788 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 1: Scottish Premier League. But Celtic two point six x GP 789 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 1: for ninety four only point nine to five xg allowed. 790 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 1: That's incredible dominance. Now they are another playing a bunch 791 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: of nobody's. But the biggest thing with Celtic and a 792 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 1: lot of these teams who are coming into the Champions 793 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: League after having great seasons in leagues outside of the 794 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: Big Five, is can they keep hold of essentially all 795 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 1: of the pieces that they have. And that's exactly what 796 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: Celtic did. They weren't like Rangers and lost Calvin Bassi. 797 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,360 Speaker 1: They weren't like i Ax and lost for their best players. 798 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: They have the entire core back together, and really this 799 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 1: is more of a bet against RB Leipzig, who you 800 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: know did overperform quite a bit in the Bundesliga last year. 801 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 1: They have a lot of question marks defensively. You know, 802 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 1: they even early on the season, you know, the XG 803 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: doesn't show. You know, the XG they do have a 804 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 1: plus three point eight through four matches, but they have 805 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,240 Speaker 1: kind of struggled getting results. And just in terms of price, 806 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: this is just a really good price on a very 807 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: good Celtic team that can give both Real Madrid and 808 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 1: RB Leipsig a lot of problems. So I like Celtic 809 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 1: at plus three thirty. You know, Celtic Park in Glasgow 810 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 1: is one of the most electric atmosphere across Europe. You're 811 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 1: going to see that in the first match against Real Madrid. 812 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,320 Speaker 1: It's a really, really difficult place to play. They're a 813 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 1: very good possession dominant type of team. We'll see if 814 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,839 Speaker 1: that translates to the Champions League where they're not gonna 815 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 1: have much of the ball. But you know, we got 816 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 1: an American Carter Vickers there at Celtic. It's a really 817 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 1: fun team that is very capable of giving both Arbi 818 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 1: Leipzig and Real Madrid some problems. 819 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 4: One thing I think to keep in mind with Celtic 820 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:38,800 Speaker 4: is a Postagaloo, their Greek manager who also managed Australia. 821 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 4: In Australia and the national team, it's hot on a 822 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 4: lot of teams lists. So I think if we do 823 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 4: see a big club in let's just say Aston Villa 824 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 4: for example, and they walk away from Stephen Gerrard because 825 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,720 Speaker 4: he's not good, despite Anthony fawning over him at every corner, 826 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 4: I do think that he there's a chance he doesn't 827 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,800 Speaker 4: finish the season with Celtic in a good way. Anthony, 828 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 4: you're also going with Bja here, huh. 829 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, I am going with Celtic. I mean, let's look 830 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 3: at five thirty eighth ratings. They have Celtic at forty 831 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 3: two percent to advance, so you know we're getting a 832 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 3: plus three fifty on them here. And I think the 833 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 3: biggest trip wire for Celtic is going to be the 834 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 3: Shack Tar games, because I think Leipzig should match up 835 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 3: better with them than Shack than Celtic does. I think Leipzig, 836 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 3: you know, I don't know what to make of Shaktar. 837 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 3: I think you know everything that's been going on, and 838 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,360 Speaker 3: it's very difficult to kind of figure out what we 839 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 3: think of them. They lost a lot of players too. 840 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,840 Speaker 3: Real Madrid have kind of dominated them in the in 841 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 3: the at least in the results, not necessarily in the performances. 842 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:48,319 Speaker 3: But I do think they're a tricky underdog team for 843 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,359 Speaker 3: a fourth place in this group because we don't know 844 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 3: what we're going to get from them and they haven't. 845 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 3: You know, the Ukrainian season didn't finish last year and 846 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 3: then there's so much upheaval and an uncertainty. But I 847 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,319 Speaker 3: am buying Celtic and and anytime I see, like Bja mentioned, 848 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 3: and this was the first thing that I wrote down 849 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 3: with them, everybody is back. They did not lose many players, 850 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 3: and I think that's a huge difference compared to Leipzig, 851 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,720 Speaker 3: who didn't lose a ton of players but also didn't 852 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 3: spend any money. And I thought they were going to 853 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:17,839 Speaker 3: and they just kind of haven't. So I think that's 854 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,919 Speaker 3: a really interesting They're they're kind of doing the run 855 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 3: it back, and they were they were fine, they were good, 856 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 3: but their style is very built towards the Bundesliga, and 857 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,839 Speaker 3: they struggled to cope in Europe last year, So I'm 858 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,279 Speaker 3: going to take Celtic as a long shot. 859 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, one note about shots are real quick, and this 860 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,720 Speaker 1: is important. They will not have a home field advantage. 861 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 1: They're gonna be playing their matches in Warsaw, Poland obviously 862 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,439 Speaker 1: we can't blame in Ukraine right now. So yeah, it's 863 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 1: like to Tantony's point, you know, they lost a lot 864 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 1: of players and yeah, it's just it's very difficult to 865 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,399 Speaker 1: get behind them. You know, it's a team that I think, 866 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of us have gotten behind on 867 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,839 Speaker 1: an individual basis throughout the Champions League in years past, 868 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,760 Speaker 1: but yeah, this year it's just it's it's it's too difficult. 869 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 1: With the amount of players they lost, they're not gonna 870 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 1: have home field advantage, like it's yeah, it's it sucks, 871 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:05,400 Speaker 1: but it's just the reality of. 872 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 3: Where we're at right now with Shock Tart and they're 873 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,319 Speaker 3: another team that's kind of gone through a cycle, right 874 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 3: And it was not that long ago that they were 875 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 3: very competitive with Inter and Real Madrid. Right now, we 876 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,800 Speaker 3: saw last year the gap got bigger, they struggle with 877 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,800 Speaker 3: Sheriff and now they're you know, kind of another stet 878 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 3: removed and you know, a lot of their players left, 879 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 3: so it's a very tough situation. But I think they're 880 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:27,840 Speaker 3: they're pretty well dead here at the. 881 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 4: Bottom onto group g Man City favorites to win the tournament, 882 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 4: like I said, plus two fifty at bet three six 883 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 4: five they are minus four fifty to win. This group 884 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 4: that also features Brusha Dortmuann plus five fifty. So we'll 885 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 4: get an earling Holland derby a couple of times here 886 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,919 Speaker 4: Sevia nine to one, FC Copenhagen forty to One's when 887 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 4: this group pretty uninteresting to me. I think the Holland 888 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 4: stuff will be fun to watch. I think we'll be betting. 889 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 4: BJ has been selling Savilla this season a lot, but 890 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,399 Speaker 4: from a just a general outlook, don't I don't see 891 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 4: much here. I think fading City and Sevilla at points 892 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 4: will likely be the most common outcome for me, BJ, 893 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:06,880 Speaker 4: What do you have? 894 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? It is is? I mean, I hate this group 895 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 1: so much because you know, it's like you said, it's 896 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 1: so boring. I mean we have Dortmund, who was just 897 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 1: a crazy over former last year. They've haven't I mean 898 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 1: they've lost you know, they lost Holland, They've added a 899 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 1: lot of pieces so yeah, they're probably gonna finish second 900 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,800 Speaker 1: in this group. But I have no interest that minus 901 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 1: two hundred to play them to advance or even to 902 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,360 Speaker 1: win this group, because they're not even close to the 903 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 1: level of City. Definitely not laying City at minus four fifty. 904 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 1: I and me, if you want to throw them into parlay 905 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 1: with maybe somebody else, like like a Tottenham to win 906 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 1: the group, if you can do that, I mean, that 907 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 1: might be a decent parl. 908 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 4: I don't think that's a bad idea, just because of 909 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 4: the point I made at the time, like if you 910 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 4: can just group all the chalk and then maybe one 911 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 4: in there as to like give it some juice or 912 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 4: like in too advance, like it's it's honestly not a 913 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 4: terrible idea. But go on. 914 00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and you know Sevilla, like I said, 915 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,840 Speaker 1: they lost their center backs. You know, they added some 916 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 1: attacking pieces. Uh you know eastco Is, you know he's 917 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 1: getting up there in age. But Copenhagen, I mean, we've 918 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 1: got to mention our our friends a better collective based 919 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,440 Speaker 1: out of Copenhagen. I'm sure they'll be big on this, 920 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 1: but I mean they're five thirty eight has them as 921 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 1: the third worst team in the Champions League. You know, 922 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 1: if you look at their you know, true talent level 923 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:24,759 Speaker 1: with you know, I like to look at transfer market 924 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 1: dot com as you know, basically what their total squad 925 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,799 Speaker 1: value is. That's where I measure talents. I mean, they're 926 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 1: their fourth worst in the Champions League. So they might 927 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,800 Speaker 1: be a fun team to play, you know, against Savilla 928 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 1: and potentially against Dortmund if they we can get a 929 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:39,320 Speaker 1: you know a plus two maybe plus two and a 930 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 1: half against them, But other than that, Yeah, this group 931 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 1: is so so boring. 932 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 4: This one, actually, I think is interesting. PSG minus two 933 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 4: fifty to top group H at BET three six five, 934 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:52,160 Speaker 4: you've a close to fifty Benfica eleven to one, Maculbee 935 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 4: Haifa out of Israel one fifty to one, twenty five 936 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 4: to one to advance on the team out of Israel. 937 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 4: I think is interesting. I'll tell you why. It's it's 938 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 4: we know, Uve is not that good compared to the 939 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,440 Speaker 4: other teams that they're they're normally kind of associated with 940 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 4: that next tier behind City, Bayern, Liverpool, et cetera, and Benfica. 941 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,920 Speaker 4: Of course, you know they're coming out of Portugal, They're 942 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 4: they're gonna be a mid pack team in this competition, 943 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 4: and usually there is a surprise team that gets through 944 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 4: to the knockout stages. There's always one, uh and we 945 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,839 Speaker 4: almost saw it with FC Sheriff out of Moldova last year. 946 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 4: So before everyone says, oh, you're crazy for betting a 947 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 4: team coming out of like the Israeli League, all they 948 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,960 Speaker 4: need to do is beat an overrated U side Benfica 949 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 4: team that's not great, and you're getting twenty five to one, 950 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 4: and just to finish second here. If they can they 951 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 4: can nick a couple of wins, they're live. Maybe maybe 952 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,280 Speaker 4: Israel is a tough place to travel to and play 953 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 4: in soccer. I don't know, but that's my only long 954 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 4: shot here, Anthony, any thoughts on group each. 955 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:53,719 Speaker 3: Who's the second best team in the group? 956 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:55,719 Speaker 1: That's Benefica, right, So the door, That's what I'm saying. 957 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 4: The door is kind of open. Like here, wait for. 958 00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 1: Is Benefica the second best team in the group or 959 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 1: are they the best team in this group? 960 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 3: Oh gosh, I think we need to pump the rakes 961 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:10,879 Speaker 3: on the PSG a little bit, just a little bit. 962 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 2: I do think they're. 963 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,440 Speaker 4: Better, but but you both like Benfica. 964 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,839 Speaker 2: Benfica is not better than PSG. They may be better than. 965 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,280 Speaker 4: But you again saying you like them, you like Benfica. 966 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,839 Speaker 4: You both are buying them, which means that the kind 967 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 4: of second place battle here could just get interesting if 968 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 4: you think Benfica is better than Youvey. So that's kind 969 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,360 Speaker 4: of my thought process here. Taking one long shot to 970 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,760 Speaker 4: come out of a group, it will be maccabee haifa. 971 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,120 Speaker 3: Anyways, Anthony, I mean this comes down to, Okay, we 972 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,400 Speaker 3: think Syria is really bad and events finished with a 973 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:44,799 Speaker 3: you know, good not great metric. In in Syria they 974 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,759 Speaker 3: ran pretty well to get to the knockout stage or 975 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 3: to rather to win the group, and then they were 976 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,439 Speaker 3: eliminated by v Real, where they got dominated the second leg. 977 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 3: Uventus have looked pretty mediocre to start the season. 978 00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,360 Speaker 2: Benfica, of course. 979 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 3: The biggest thing is that Darwin has gone. But last 980 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 3: season much better in Portugal than Juventus was in Italy. 981 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:10,040 Speaker 3: They performed well in their Champions League group, got to 982 00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:14,120 Speaker 3: the quarterfinals and caused problems for Liverpool in transition and 983 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,360 Speaker 3: caused problems for Ajax in the first leg in transition. 984 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,319 Speaker 3: Like I think, like do I think Benfica is making 985 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:21,759 Speaker 3: a deep run in the Champions League. 986 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,680 Speaker 2: No, but plus three point fifty. I think they're just 987 00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,960 Speaker 2: as good as Juventus. So I love Benfica. 988 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,160 Speaker 3: That's that's an easy one for me to play. 989 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 1: I mean, they literally got out of a group with 990 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,399 Speaker 1: Byron and Barsel last year. 991 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 3: Is this greer with bars and caused problems for buying conditions. 992 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 1: So, I mean, here's my biggest point on Benefica. So 993 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:47,000 Speaker 1: purely liked Anthony's point about Juventus's metrics. They were plus 994 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 1: point three five actually differential per ninety minutes in Syria. 995 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 1: That's actually seventh in Syria. Odd, that was horrible. You 996 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,840 Speaker 1: look at Benefica, you know they're they're around the same 997 00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,839 Speaker 1: as you know, Sporting and Porto they're on one point 998 00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,279 Speaker 1: five or you know, actually differential per ninety minutes, you know, 999 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,240 Speaker 1: in the Portuguese League. So the gap, and we've already 1000 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,680 Speaker 1: mentioned the gap between them at the Portugal and Italy 1001 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 1: really isn't as drask as you know, Italy to the 1002 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,960 Speaker 1: Premier League. So we have Benefica at plus three point fifty, 1003 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:15,759 Speaker 1: which I think is just a crazy price. Yes, they 1004 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,920 Speaker 1: do lose Darwin Nunez. They have David NRIs from IAX, 1005 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:22,400 Speaker 1: who's a really fun winger, who's gonna improve their attack. 1006 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,200 Speaker 1: The biggest thing with Uventus if you look through even 1007 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,239 Speaker 1: just if we remove Syria last year and we just 1008 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,480 Speaker 1: looked at the Champions League. If you remove the two 1009 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:35,080 Speaker 1: matches they played against Malmo, they had a minus one 1010 00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,080 Speaker 1: point five expected goal differential. If you remove the two 1011 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,640 Speaker 1: matches that Benefica played against Bayron Munich where they just 1012 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:44,719 Speaker 1: got absolutely pasted, they actually had a plus point eight. Sorry, 1013 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,400 Speaker 1: if you remove the matches against both Liverpool and Bayron Munich, 1014 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,400 Speaker 1: they have a plus point eight expected goal differential essentially 1015 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,600 Speaker 1: two matches against IAX, two matches against Barcelona, and two 1016 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,439 Speaker 1: matches against denim O Kiev. Like that's impressive, Like that's 1017 00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,080 Speaker 1: really really good. And you know Anthony already mentioned five 1018 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:03,720 Speaker 1: thirty eight, Well five thirty eight has Benefica at sixty 1019 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,840 Speaker 1: five percent to advance, Like that's almost like close to 1020 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,719 Speaker 1: minus two hundred to advance. So it's pretty crazy that 1021 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,880 Speaker 1: they're sitting at this big of a price to advance. 1022 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 1: I mean, events, this is just getting crazy overvalued here. 1023 00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,319 Speaker 1: They didn't really do anything in the transfer window to 1024 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,320 Speaker 1: like drastically improve them. We talked a lot about you know, 1025 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,960 Speaker 1: du sand Vlahovic and how overrated he is. Paul pog 1026 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:30,000 Speaker 1: has been injured. It's it's just a really lame duck 1027 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,239 Speaker 1: feel and PSG. They could continue to win seven to 1028 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,560 Speaker 1: nothing in the league on, you know, week after week, 1029 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,759 Speaker 1: and it will not change my mind on them. I 1030 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:42,880 Speaker 1: am so looking forward to taking Benefica against PSG in 1031 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:44,840 Speaker 1: the Champions League. I won't be betting Uventus, There's no 1032 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,360 Speaker 1: chance I'm doing that, but you know, minus two fifty 1033 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,040 Speaker 1: is probably a fair price for PSG to win this group. 1034 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 1: I mean, they obviously have way more talent than these 1035 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:56,440 Speaker 1: two teams, but I mean they were what a plus 1036 00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 1: zero point five expecting Golden Frenchial overall in the Champions 1037 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,719 Speaker 1: League last year. They were in the Group of death, 1038 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,600 Speaker 1: but they were not impressive in it. So once we 1039 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,160 Speaker 1: get to the round of sixteen, it's going to be 1040 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,440 Speaker 1: really fun to fade PSG. But I mean Benefica is 1041 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:09,719 Speaker 1: going to be the only match where I'm actually going 1042 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,480 Speaker 1: to fade PSG. May if I get like a plus 1043 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,960 Speaker 1: three and a half on you know, Mcabiafia against them, 1044 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,120 Speaker 1: I might do that. But Michael, to your point, Macabiaphia 1045 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,600 Speaker 1: and Victoria Pleasant are like in arms race for the 1046 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,040 Speaker 1: Who's the worst team in the Champions League. Just comparison 1047 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:28,360 Speaker 1: purposes total squad value for Mcabiafia's seventeen point six million, 1048 00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 1: Benefica two hundred and forty two million, Juventus five hundred 1049 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:35,000 Speaker 1: and four million PSG almost a billion, So the gap 1050 00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:40,319 Speaker 1: between these teams is quite drastic. But you know who knows, Yeah, 1051 00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,640 Speaker 1: Benefica at plus three fifty is a crazy price to 1052 00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:43,439 Speaker 1: get out of this group. 1053 00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,160 Speaker 4: All right. That wraps up our previews. We talked about 1054 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,120 Speaker 4: out right, so we talked about long shots. So let's 1055 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,640 Speaker 4: just wrap up real quick with our favorite bets on 1056 00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,120 Speaker 4: the board. Anthony, you want to go first, We. 1057 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:53,920 Speaker 2: Just talked about it. 1058 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,880 Speaker 3: It's Benfica plus three fifty to advance out of this group. 1059 00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:01,319 Speaker 3: I still think they're undervalued despite losing Darwin Tool. They 1060 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,800 Speaker 3: have good Champions League pedigree. They had good underlying numbers 1061 00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 3: last year. They were thorn in the side of Byron 1062 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:10,240 Speaker 3: and Barsa. They got results in both matches against Byron 1063 00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,680 Speaker 3: or Barsa rather and caused some issues and fell apart 1064 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,920 Speaker 3: late against Byron again beating Ax. They have shown a good, 1065 00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,920 Speaker 3: solid underdog profile with a good defense, and Juventus continues 1066 00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,279 Speaker 3: to be extremely overrated in the markets. Five thirty eight 1067 00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,080 Speaker 3: rates Juventus is a worse team. I think they may 1068 00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,680 Speaker 3: be worse, and I'm going to take the plus three 1069 00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,120 Speaker 3: to fifty on them, knowing that the fourth group in 1070 00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,640 Speaker 3: the team is kind of a throwaway here, and I 1071 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:39,040 Speaker 3: think Benfica might match up better with PSG than Juventus does. 1072 00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,880 Speaker 4: So I love Benfica. Plus three to fifty two advance 1073 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,800 Speaker 4: an annual tradition for me. My favorite bet at Letigo 1074 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:48,400 Speaker 4: Madrid twenty eight to one to win the Champions League. 1075 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,919 Speaker 4: Very manageable group with Bruce Porto and Leverkusen their minus 1076 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,400 Speaker 4: three fifty two advance out of that quartet last three seasons. 1077 00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,600 Speaker 4: One of the best defensive teams in this generation of 1078 00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:02,440 Speaker 4: European football with Diego Simioni at the helm, and we know, 1079 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:04,719 Speaker 4: we just know how much of a bear this team 1080 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,480 Speaker 4: is when we get to the knockout stages. Man City 1081 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,840 Speaker 4: barely squeaked by them last year one nil on aggregate 1082 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:15,000 Speaker 4: across two legs. So when push comes to shove, you 1083 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,120 Speaker 4: just want to back this team. When we start to 1084 00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:21,160 Speaker 4: see these knockout stage matches, at Letty once again twenty 1085 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,000 Speaker 4: eight to one BJA anything for you. 1086 00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,680 Speaker 1: Yes, Sporting Lisbon to qualify plus two hundred out of 1087 00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,399 Speaker 1: Group D. Tottenham is probably gonna run away with this group, 1088 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,759 Speaker 1: but they put two of my biggest fade teams in 1089 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,520 Speaker 1: the same group, Frankfurt and Marseille. Marseille since the start 1090 00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:38,320 Speaker 1: of last season only as a plus point five actually 1091 00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:42,359 Speaker 1: differential per ninety minutes. Well, if you look at Uephaico efficients, 1092 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:46,799 Speaker 1: France is fifth among Europe and the gap between them 1093 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,640 Speaker 1: and Portugal is not that big. So if we look 1094 00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:53,000 Speaker 1: at Sporting Lisbon's expecting gold differential, they're at one point 1095 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,880 Speaker 1: four to one last year and actually got out of 1096 00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:57,960 Speaker 1: a group with a AX. And Dortmund made the round 1097 00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,640 Speaker 1: of sixteen and obviously got pasted by man Chester City. 1098 00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,160 Speaker 1: So I don't believe that they're being should be the 1099 00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,560 Speaker 1: price as the worst team in this group. I think 1100 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,759 Speaker 1: they're very clear in a way the second best team 1101 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,200 Speaker 1: in this group because the other team, Frankfurt, Yes, they 1102 00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:11,840 Speaker 1: won the Europa League, but I mean they were a 1103 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:16,239 Speaker 1: minus seven expected goal differential team in the Bundesliga. They 1104 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,320 Speaker 1: just lost their best attacking midfielder Philip Kostitch early on 1105 00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,880 Speaker 1: in the BUNDESLGA. They've looked horrible, so at plus two hundred, 1106 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,440 Speaker 1: I love Sporting Lisbon to get out of Group D. 1107 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,840 Speaker 4: And that wraps up our Champions League betting preview for 1108 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,960 Speaker 4: the upcoming year. It starts Tuesday. Boy, a lot of 1109 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,160 Speaker 4: soccer coming our way. This once again has been wonder 1110 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,160 Speaker 4: goal of the Soccer Betting Podcast. For the action, I 1111 00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,799 Speaker 4: represented to you by our lovely sponsors. Bet three six 1112 00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,640 Speaker 4: five for BJ Cunningham, for Anthony da Bundo. I'm Michael 1113 00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,000 Speaker 4: leeb Up. We will see you Thursday morning.