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Like we fall 15 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 4: in love with the possibility that somebody's gonna come in 16 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 4: and do something credible, if there's going to be some 17 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 4: big event, and when we get to the. 18 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 3: Actual games, it's a letdown. 19 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 4: What if maybe this year we're doing the same thing 20 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 4: in the NFL with one of the large, most prominent 21 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 4: franchises in. 22 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 3: The entire league. What if this year we are. 23 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 4: Absolutely enamored with the soap opera that's going to be 24 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 4: the Pittsburgh Steelers. But what if it's all for nothing 25 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 4: because the Steelers aren't gonna be worth it. It's two 26 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 4: pros and a cup of Joe on Fox Sports Radio. 27 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 4: He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Jason fitz Man. How are we 28 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 4: feeling this morning? 29 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 3: It is early in the morning. 30 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 4: You're getting just a whole bountiful Like I had an 31 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 4: energy drink this morning. Those are rare for me now, 32 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 4: like I'm gonna be on one all day. 33 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 3: How are we feeling? 34 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 5: Brother? I am fantastic. Good to work with you. I look, 35 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 5: I know them do better than the couple that was 36 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 5: caught at the Coldplay concerts snuckling up to each other 37 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 5: where they shouldn't have been. So if your day is 38 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 5: going back, just remember it's not as bad as their 39 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 5: day is going. And so I cannot know that story. No, 40 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 5: it's not a sports story, but it is capture the 41 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 5: Internet and it's even a fake apology I think happening 42 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 5: right now with the CEO of Astronomer whos getting caught 43 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 5: that We've got the open on right now. It's it's 44 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 5: nice as the East Coaster to wake up and have 45 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 5: live sports on, which is a rarity. Mostly it's just 46 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 5: this when the open is on or even sometimes there's 47 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 5: you know there's a you know, there's another event. The 48 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 5: Olympics is one of them where it might be on 49 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 5: like in the morning, right, very rare for us on 50 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 5: the on the East coast, So a lot to get 51 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 5: to in the NFL. Man, look, Camp Chargers went to 52 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 5: camp yesterday. We have like actual camp footage yesterday, so 53 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 5: a lot to get into. 54 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's uh, it's gonna be a fun morning. 55 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 4: Uh, just don't take your side piece to a concert 56 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 4: that's just a repeat. 57 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 3: Soon we're gonna have throughout the year. 58 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 5: It is quite remarkable, right, Like I know, they don't 59 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 5: expect to be on the JumboTron, Like I get that. 60 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 5: But it was a comp It's not like it was 61 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 5: a company thing. Like they weren't by themselves. So the 62 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 5: people obviously people knew like this is like what they 63 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 5: they just they're doing on the side. I guess I 64 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 5: don't know. I no, no, certain, not for me tell 65 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 5: you that. 66 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, when I was when I was touring, I have 67 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 4: a friend that for years was it was a drummer. 68 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 4: He played for a ton of huge acts and he 69 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,119 Speaker 4: used to always walk off the bus, and he his 70 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 4: phrase used to always be anytime you were out there, 71 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 4: He's like, man, there's a difference between you know, hot 72 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 4: and half of everything you own hot. And then he 73 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,119 Speaker 4: said the follow up, lilying to that, was always there's 74 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 4: an even bigger difference to half of everything you own 75 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 4: and every other weekend hot. Like that is just once 76 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 4: you have kids, that that changes everything. That did not 77 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 4: seem to deter any of them, as the as the 78 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 4: CEOs out here in the streets with his HR director 79 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 4: and it's just a lot of collateral damage. I keep 80 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 4: looking at all of it thinking, man, like, how do 81 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 4: you explain what hey, honey, like she gets on the 82 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 4: internet at all and all of a sudden you're like, hey, 83 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 4: we should probably have a conversation like that is just now. 84 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 4: I cannot imagine how. 85 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 5: My wife has a saying and again we are we 86 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 5: are very happily marriage. This is not at all replies 87 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 5: to us. But you know, she has a saying. It 88 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 5: says it's cheaper to keep her, you know, like it 89 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 5: sometimes you know it's just it's just it's just cheap. 90 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 5: It's just cheaper to do it. And it might not 91 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 5: be in this situation. But in the HR thing is 92 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 5: even better, right that the HR director is the one 93 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 5: that he's snuggling up with, you know. And obviously in 94 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 5: most companies, and my I am my own companies, I 95 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 5: don't have an HR director, but I know how they operate, 96 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 5: and most of the time, right, they operate and they're 97 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 5: supposed to to avoid these sort of situations, right, that's 98 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 5: that's that's their job is to make sure that people 99 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 5: are complying with human resources and for her to be 100 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 5: the one caught doing this as well as another fun 101 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 5: layer to it. But yeah, man, I've watched a video 102 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 5: so many times. I know people have said that if 103 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 5: they didn't react that way, nobody would have paid attention 104 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 5: to it. But how they're supposed to reac They're they're 105 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 5: having a fair and they caught on camera at a concert, 106 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 5: they're going to react in that way. 107 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there is this this portion for me too. 108 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 4: I you should know this about me. But I'm not 109 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 4: a conspiracy theorist at all. Like I don't waste my 110 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 4: time with. 111 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 5: I don't I don't eat. I'm a why person. I 112 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 5: need to know why, why something's happening. I'm not a 113 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 5: I'm with you, very little conspiracies, I believe. 114 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm one of those guys that like, if we 115 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 4: didn't land on the moon, it doesn't change my Friday. 116 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 3: So I don't really care. 117 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 4: But I I did look at this and say, the 118 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 4: odds that you're in a suite and the camera people 119 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 4: are going to find you in a stadium concert for 120 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 4: Coldplay and you know you're gonna be a you know 121 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 4: this this CEO of a billion dollar company, Like, that's 122 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 4: just the odds on that were so crazy. I just 123 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 4: there's a part of me that's like, did somebody in 124 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 4: cold Place camp know, like, were they out of an 125 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 4: affair of a prominent person? I don't know. 126 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 5: If you listen to that. I think that if you 127 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 5: listen to the audio, there's that like you can hear 128 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 5: them say like, oh, there's just a couple like like, oh, 129 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 5: look at this couple, Like I think they had no idea. 130 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 5: I think I think they had no idea and uh 131 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 5: and they just they just had the worst luck ever 132 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 5: than this situation. That's is that simple. By the way, 133 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 5: you know, if again, if you're if you're stuggling, good 134 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 5: good good tip for you guys out there. If you're 135 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 5: snuggling in in front of forty thousand people and a concert. 136 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 5: I kind of feel like you deserved to get caught 137 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 5: at that point. 138 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 3: One hundred percent. And look, I think, but we'll get to. 139 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 5: The Steelers in a second. 140 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 3: Everybody calmed down. 141 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 4: He did make an official apology last night. But what 142 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 4: I think was funny about it is people when they apologize, 143 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 4: just need to learn less. Is more like there's just 144 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 4: this level because the apology started out with you. I 145 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 4: want to acknowledge the moment that's been circulating online and 146 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 4: the disappointment it caused. What's what was supposed to be 147 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 4: not of music and enjoy turned into a deeply personal 148 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 4: mistake playing out in a very public stage when it 149 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 4: sincerely apologize to my wife, my family, and the team 150 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 4: and astronomer. You deserve better for me as a partner, 151 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 4: father and a leader. That's great, he's doing great there 152 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 4: so far. 153 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 3: Just shut up. 154 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 4: You did it and and then all of a sudden, 155 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 4: I also want to express how troubling it is that 156 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 4: what should have been a private moment it became public 157 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 4: without my consent. 158 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 3: I respect artists. 159 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 4: And entertainers, but I hope we can all think more 160 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 4: deeply about the impact of turning someone else's life into 161 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 4: a spectacle. 162 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 5: Okay, so is that I'm under the impression that is 163 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 5: a fake apology, but I I really own that. I 164 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 5: think I think it's I think that's the thing. I 165 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 5: think it's because the last part of it made it 166 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 5: seem like it's not real, Like who why would you 167 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 5: include the part about oh I got got I I 168 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 5: think I I And also to the reading about this 169 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 5: as well. It says here that when when when the 170 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 5: kiss came landed on them, the pair of media moved 171 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 5: out of the frame and tried to hide Coldplay frontman 172 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 5: Chris Martin joke either having an affair. They're just very shy, 173 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 5: so like it was not set up to me that way. 174 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 5: I think the apology is is not real. But make sure, 175 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 5: like I. 176 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 3: Mean, look, and we've gotten to this spot now where 177 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:22,679 Speaker 3: who knows. 178 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 4: I don't know how you trust anything anymore except for 179 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 4: the video itself. You know that one. He can't he 180 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 4: can't say anybody faked it. But I don't know how 181 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 4: you trust anything you read anymore. So you know the 182 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 4: number of every time you got to like quadruple check 183 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 4: everything that ever gets posted and there was a fake 184 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 4: apology or fake statement early. 185 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 3: But then this though, I don't know. 186 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 5: The part about him blaming the concerts for your affair. 187 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 5: That bro, bro, come on, man, just own it. Just 188 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 5: own it. His wife, by the way, supposedly already changed 189 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 5: her last name on Facebook. So I would imagine that 190 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 5: it's not it's not. It's not good, buddy, all that's 191 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 5: not good. But cold Play, you lost your relationship because 192 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 5: you were a cold Play concert. That's it's not great. 193 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 3: I just always think of Eddie Murphy rolls. 194 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 5: Like half Eddie, Eddie, I want half. 195 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 4: I mean, she's just she's the day taking it to 196 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 4: the bank. I mean that is Oh yeah, I mean 197 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,719 Speaker 4: that is. And it's his own damn fault. By the way, 198 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 4: there's no doubt about it. I don't want to We're 199 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 4: not going to talk about the affair all morning, just 200 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 4: most of the morning. 201 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 3: Have you ever, I mean, you've got enough prominent friends. 202 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 3: Have you ever had it, like. 203 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 4: Without naming any names, you ever like you ever have 204 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 4: a prominent friend that kind of put themselves? 205 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 5: I mean no, but but I'll tell you a fine 206 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 5: so Andy Reid, who's fantastic. Of course, I played one 207 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 5: season with him. My brother played five of the Chiefs 208 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 5: and he was one thing that Andy is he he's 209 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 5: just very aware. I mean he's played a lot, he's 210 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 5: coached a lot of football, you know. And before I 211 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 5: think it was BEFO week one of the first year 212 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 5: he was in Kansas City, he told us, you know, 213 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 5: his thing is always has like short team meetings, which 214 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 5: are great, it's fantastic, it's it's awesome, but very very short. 215 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 5: But we had a little longer one before the season start, 216 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 5: just a couple of things before week one, and one 217 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 5: of the things he said to us was was, Okay, guys, 218 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 5: handle your tickets. So we get at certain number of 219 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 5: tickets and we have to give the request of the 220 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 5: number of tickets to the ticket person by like Wednesday 221 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 5: of game week, right, And he always just say, hey, guys, 222 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 5: handle your tickets early in the week and make sure 223 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 5: if you have any baby mamas or you're having an affair, 224 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 5: that the wives don't sit with the girlfriends. So we said, 225 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 5: he said, he told he told that to us, and 226 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 5: everyone was like, was giggling, like, of course, but I guess, 227 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 5: and everyone asked around. I guess there's been issues on 228 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 5: former teams he was on where wives and girlfriends would 229 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 5: sit together at games, which just seems like very avoidable, 230 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 5: avoidable bad time. You know, like, what is a player 231 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 5: putting your wife and your girlfriend in the same area. 232 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 5: That is dumb. That is dumb. So that does happen. 233 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 5: I didn't think it happened, but it does happen. Players 234 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 5: will put themselves in that situation with their significant other 235 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 5: end there and they're laid there having the. 236 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 4: Affair with I certainly had a musician buddy that I 237 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 4: won't throw into the bus that his wife and kids 238 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 4: were at a show when two of his different side 239 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 4: pieces decided to show up to the same same show. 240 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 3: He didn't have a very good show. I'm just gonna say, 241 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 3: like you just eventually, man, everybody gets you gets got 242 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 3: Like you. 243 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,559 Speaker 5: Saw both of them like sitting there together. 244 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 4: A tour manager got the heads up that was like, hey, 245 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 4: we got a problem. So yeah, he was the whole 246 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 4: time he was on stage. You could see him palpably sweating. 247 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 4: It was a it was I mean, I'm laughing and 248 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 4: I shouldn't be laughing because I know. 249 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 3: It was a really tough day for a lot of people. 250 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 3: But at the same. 251 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 4: Time I look at them like man, eventually you get 252 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 4: gott No matter how smart you think you are, eventually 253 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 4: it all catches up to you. He's Jeff Swartz. I'm 254 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 4: Jason fitzworre in for Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. 255 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 4: We got a lot to get into this morning. I 256 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 4: started off by saying it. I'll say it again because 257 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 4: we'll get into it in just a minute. Here the 258 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 4: Pittsburgh Steelers are making news. The question is is that 259 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,719 Speaker 4: all they're gonna do this season. We'll break it down 260 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 4: after a quick break. He's Jeff Swartz. 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I'm not sure we 281 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 3: actually know the answer. 282 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 4: He's Jeff Schwartz on Jason Fittswor hanging out on Two 283 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 4: Pros and a Cup of Joe on Fox Sports Radio. Jeff, Like, 284 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 4: the funny thing is, I've been saying this, I feel 285 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 4: like for a couple of months, because all we do 286 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 4: is keep talking about Aaron Rodgers and Aaron Rodgers and 287 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers, and like there's an unavoidable thing here right 288 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 4: the Steelers are gonna be this massive talking point all year. 289 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,839 Speaker 4: And just like as we started the show today, I said, 290 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 4: like the NBA has built a whole empire on talking 291 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 4: points that are more meaningful than the game. 292 00:13:57,960 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 3: Half the time. 293 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 4: And I feel like that's what looking at like at 294 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 4: some point, Great, you get TJ. Watt back on a 295 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 4: mega deal, it needed to happen. Great you go out 296 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 4: and sign Aaron Rodgers, you had to have a quarterback. 297 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 3: All of these things make sense. But I guess I 298 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 3: struggle to figure out how. 299 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 4: All of these things make Pittsburgh any bet better than 300 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 4: the third best team in their own division. And why 301 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 4: are we talking about this much hype over a team 302 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 4: that's probably going to be the third best team in 303 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 4: its own division. 304 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 5: Well, it's, first of all, it's Pittsburgh, right, So hype 305 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 5: is always going to be there. But I think you're 306 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 5: I think the thing that for me, you know, it's 307 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 5: very important as a team to understand two things, right. 308 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 5: You want to build in the short term and long 309 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 5: term right, and those sometimes, you know, conflict with each other. 310 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 5: And I want to see your plan right. And so 311 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 5: the other's plan very clearly is we're going all in 312 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 5: for this season. It's a veteran group. They've signed older players, 313 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 5: they traded for older players. They built their roster around 314 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers and the defense and Watt and Hayward and 315 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 5: Ramsey right, and they traded for DK. It's it's all veteran. Okay, 316 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 5: And this is the Pittsburgh Steelers, right, the super Bowl 317 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 5: or bust for them, And I think they've calculated incorrectly 318 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 5: that they are chasing a short term fix, which is 319 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 5: we're Pittsburgh. We always win nine or ten games, We're 320 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 5: always competitive. Which are which are which are good qualities 321 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 5: to have? I'm sure a lot of fan bases would 322 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 5: love your Raiders fan correct me if I'm wrong there, Like, 323 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 5: I'm sure you would love to have Pittsburgh, Okay, I 324 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 5: I think you would love as a Raiders fan to 325 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 5: have that stability. But the stability in Pittsburgh is feels 326 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 5: like to me the worst place to be in the NFL, 327 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 5: which is not good enough to win a super Bowl, 328 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 5: not bad enough to draft young quarterback. And Pittsburgh's plan 329 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 5: to me, feels very foolish. You're going all in older players, 330 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 5: which almost never works in the NFL. They break down, 331 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 5: they get hurt. That's the unfortunate part about the league, right, 332 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 5: one hundred percent injury rate. The older you are, the 333 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 5: more you get hurt, and the harder it's to come 334 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 5: back from that injury. They have almost no sort of 335 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 5: young core to build around and They've done that purposely, right, 336 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 5: because they want to try to win a super Bowl. 337 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 5: Now they're not winning super Bowl. That's that's the miscalculation. 338 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 5: Their calculation is we're gonna get the get in the 339 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 5: postseason and then make it happen. Look at the look 340 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 5: at your division, look at the rest of the league. 341 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 5: You're not better than Buffalo, Baltimore, the Chiefs. You're not 342 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 5: better than parbat of the Chargers and Broncos. You're just 343 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 5: not better than a lot of the teams in you know, 344 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 5: in your own conference. And it's all in for nothing. 345 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 5: And the next year you're gonna sit around and go, well, 346 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 5: we're okay, we're a year older. Now we're where's our 347 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 5: young core of our team, our base of our roster. 348 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 5: We don't have a quarterback again. Now we get draft 349 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 5: one of course, and they've been more aggressive in the 350 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 5: draft than previous regimes. Is Omar Khan got a contract extension. 351 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 5: But they don't have a core back in the future. 352 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 5: They they've yet to address that. They tried with Picket. 353 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 5: They drafted the old quarterback in the first round that year, 354 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 5: very telling on the talent of that draft. Now this 355 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 5: draft should be it should be more quarterback friendly. I 356 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 5: just don't like and don't think the way they're building 357 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 5: their roster is a successful process, and I think it'll 358 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 5: end up with the same place they're always in, which again, 359 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 5: I mean, is that what you want? Is that really 360 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 5: where you want to be as a franchise. 361 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 4: The other hard part about it is what does all 362 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 4: of this do for the noise around Tomlin? And you know, 363 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 4: maybe the organization doesn't listen to noise, Maybe none of 364 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 4: it matters. Maybe all of us, instead of sitting in 365 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 4: front of microphones overblow it every single year. 366 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 3: That's all possible. 367 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 4: There is this part of me that man, where there's smoke, 368 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 4: there's fire, and every year just gets louder and louder. 369 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 4: And the only thing that really quells that noise are 370 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 4: playoff wins. And so I'm looking at this team and 371 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 4: you know, I hate ranking things. I think ranking trying 372 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 4: to come up with the ranking is so subjective and impossible. 373 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 4: I like to just put things instead on shelves. Like 374 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 4: when you walk into a bar, you're like, hey, I 375 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 4: want top shelf vodka. They're on a shelf together. Then 376 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 4: the well vodka is all on a shelf, Like you 377 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 4: understand where these things fall. So to me, if you're 378 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 4: gonna go all in, it's because you are a top 379 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 4: shelf team that is sitting on the same shelf as the. 380 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 3: Leader of the lead in your conference. 381 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 4: To your point, the Buffalo is the Kansas City's the 382 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,959 Speaker 4: Baltimore's of the world. They're sitting on a completely different 383 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 4: shelf than where the Steelers are. 384 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 3: To me, I don't think that they even belong in 385 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 3: that same conversation. They're on the next. 386 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 4: Shelf down, and that's a good shelf, like that's that's fine. 387 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 4: But when you go this all in, and I think 388 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 4: the result is more than likely going to be either 389 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 4: the same as it's. 390 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 3: Been or maybe even a little worse. 391 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 4: When all of that comes together, then we're gonna be 392 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 4: sitting here in February and everybody's gonna say. 393 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 3: Oh, it's just time for Tomlin to move on. 394 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 4: And then you turn around and think, Okay, now you're 395 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 4: resetting the entire organization because you went wrong on a 396 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 4: fool's goal plan to try and go all in on 397 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 4: a year where all in doesn't get you good enough. 398 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 5: Correct, And that's where the long term thinking has to happen. Right, 399 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 5: It's hard to thread a needle between here's our short 400 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,239 Speaker 5: term plan, here's our long term vision. Their long term 401 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 5: vision doesn't seem to be there. The long term vision 402 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 5: is we're going year by year, which, again, for an 403 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 5: organization like Pittsburgh and the success they've had over the years, 404 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 5: it's very tough to sell your fans on like, hey, guys, 405 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 5: we're gonna kind of have a year when we pull 406 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 5: back a little bit to get better moving forward. You can, 407 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 5: you can still have a pullback year and be a 408 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 5: little bit competitive and give your fans hope. But the 409 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 5: issue again is again, what is there. What's their plan 410 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 5: next year? I don't know they're playing this year, so 411 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 5: to try to win obviously, okay, I mean sure, we 412 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 5: all try to do that, but it doesn't mean it's 413 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 5: gonna happen and we all agree on that. I could 414 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 5: give you all the franchises at the top of the 415 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 5: NFL and tell you their plan for the next few 416 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 5: years all revolves around the quarterback. They have the pictures. 417 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 5: They don't have a quarterback for the future. Rogers is 418 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 5: Rogers is not as bad who want him to be. 419 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 5: It's also not what he was, you know, three or 420 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 5: four years ago. So the best to get from Rogers, 421 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 5: I think is just average, and maybe average is good 422 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 5: enough to get you to the postseason with the with 423 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 5: the roster you have. But I just there are long 424 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 5: term plans non existent, and I think for a team 425 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 5: of like like Pittsburgh, the best teams in the NFL 426 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 5: both are done at the same time long term. Right, 427 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 5: we think about the long term and the short term, 428 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,239 Speaker 5: and Pittsburgh is so short sighted right now the way 429 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 5: they're they're bode their roster. 430 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 4: I also think to your point when you mentioned a 431 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 4: step back can result in hope, right, Hope in the 432 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 4: NFL comes in the form of a young quarterback. I 433 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 4: just when you have a guy that's young that you 434 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 4: think is going to be the difference in your franchise, 435 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 4: you can even as a fan base, you can sort 436 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 4: of handle terrible years. Like Buffalo had a couple of 437 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 4: weird years in the beginning with Josh Allen. It was 438 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 4: fine because they had Josh Allen. They didn't work at it, 439 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 4: like I don't think Bengals fans are sitting here panicking 440 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,360 Speaker 4: the way frankly they should be sometimes at how much 441 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 4: Joe Burrow's being wasted. But that's okay, because they got 442 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 4: Joe Burrow right Like, even if you're a Titans fan 443 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 4: right now and your team has been an abject disaster 444 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 4: and forgotten in the car in the process. 445 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 3: Of the NFL, you got cam Ward. Now you got 446 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 3: every like. 447 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 4: So it's hard to sell hope in what even could 448 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 4: be a step back here if you're a team that's 449 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,919 Speaker 4: always nine and eight or ten and seven and you 450 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 4: still don't have a long term answer at the quarterback 451 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 4: and you don't really at that position, and you don't 452 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 4: really have a clear path to how you're going to 453 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 4: get better than Baltimore. And that's like when you're just 454 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 4: constantly looking at the Ravens and Lamar and saying, well, 455 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 4: they are they're better today, and they're set up to 456 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 4: be better for a minute, and that organization has something 457 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 4: that this organization doesn't have because they have a quarterback. 458 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 3: They know they can bank on for the next ten years. 459 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 4: It's just it's a really weird spot for the Steelers 460 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 4: to be in. And because of who the Steelers are 461 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 4: and who the job that Mike Tomlin has done, we 462 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 4: just expect that they'll be able to make chicken salad 463 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 4: out of you know what, and I I just don't 464 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 4: know long term that that does. Eventually everybody gets exhausted 465 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 4: with chicken salad. 466 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 5: Well we I mean to be fair, we know what 467 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 5: it's gonna be like long term, it's not gonna be 468 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 5: good unless look, we can eat our words. Obviously, if 469 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 5: they go out and get a quarterback in this next class, 470 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 5: it's it's it's it's shaping up to be a huge 471 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 5: quarterback class, just based off of mock drafts and look 472 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 5: around college football, so they can easily get you know, 473 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 5: put themselves in a situation to draft at eighteen, like 474 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 5: they always do, end up with a good quarterback. I 475 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 5: mean again, it's those are things that are all possible. 476 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 5: But in all my words, obviously, if that happens, But again, 477 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 5: what do you what are you building around though? Who 478 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 5: are the pieces? Dk Metcalf is interesting because I've asked 479 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 5: everyone this when we talk about DK Metcalf, what what 480 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 5: is DK's best moment as a as a wide receiver? 481 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 5: Do you do you you watch a ton of football? 482 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 5: What's the top of my head? I don't, I don't. 483 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 5: I meant, well, the big moment is when he caught 484 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 5: from behind. Right wise, he is a fine wide receiver. 485 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 5: He's made one I think was All Pro Team, Pro 486 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 5: Bowl Team in two thousand in the COVID year. Otherwise 487 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 5: he's just been like, okay, like he's he gets a 488 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 5: thousand yards every other season. He's only had a thousand 489 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 5: yards and three of us six seasons, it's not he's not. 490 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 5: Is that who you're building around? Offensively? Yeah, the offensive line, 491 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 5: you know, an offensive line nerd like myself was good. 492 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 5: It's a it's a good young offensive line, like like 493 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 5: there's some real talent there. But I mean that paratly 494 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 5: doesn't excite Steelers fans. But where's it like after the 495 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 5: season and let's say the old guys are just done right, 496 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 5: like Cam Hayward probably is last season. You know, Slighs 497 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 5: near the end, Ramsey, who are the young even Patrick 498 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 5: Queen is getting older? Who are the young guys you're 499 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 5: building around? If you're Pittsburgh, they're kind of just not there. 500 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 5: So you're going all in on this season when you're 501 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 5: not gonna win a championship and then you don't really 502 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 5: have young guys to backfill you, you know, like you've 503 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 5: sort of you you're going all in this window without 504 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 5: thinking about the future. In my opinion at all, and 505 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 5: it's really going to cost them. 506 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 3: So let me ask you this. 507 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 4: He's Jeff Schwartz, I'm Jason Fitzworn on two Pros to 508 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 4: a Cup of Joe on Fox Sports Radio. I want 509 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,719 Speaker 4: your kind of mindset on this. As a former player 510 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 4: and somebody that's around the league so much, what are 511 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 4: you supposed to do? And this is a philosophical question. 512 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 3: I've had it with Buck Rising at a couple of times 513 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 3: on Fox Sports too. But like t J. 514 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,360 Speaker 4: Watt needed to get to paid, and there's no doubt 515 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 4: about it. Like you have a great player, you reward 516 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 4: a great player. But this is the same conversation in 517 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 4: particularly when we look at Russiers like Miles Garrett getting 518 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 4: paid isn't really going to result and wins for Cleveland 519 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 4: they suck, They always suck, and and you know, at 520 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 4: some point that doesn't mean you don't sign resign a. 521 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 3: Great players like you mentioned. I'm a Raiders fan. 522 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 4: I'm watching Max Crosby basically, you know, just waste his 523 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 4: career not winning any football games in Vegas. 524 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 3: And of course Vegas needs to pay Max. 525 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 4: Crosby because you're not gonna find another Max Crosby in 526 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 4: the draft, but also not winning a lot of games 527 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 4: with the Max Crosby, He's like, how do you find 528 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 4: the line between you know, paying the guys that you 529 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 4: have in building for the future all at once when 530 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 4: when you're stuck wherever you are, whether it's in the sea, 531 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 4: is sucker in the sea and mediocrity. 532 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a fair question. So you know a few 533 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 5: reasons why you sign these players, right, And Crosby I 534 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 5: think is a really good example for this because I 535 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 5: think Pittsburgh has sort of more and we know they 536 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 5: have more veteran kind of I think leaders than the 537 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 5: Raiders do at the moment. But is you a need 538 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 5: to have someone in the building who is the culture 539 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 5: tone center, right, who everyone respects and who everyone looks 540 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 5: up to, right, And it's worth and you want the 541 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 5: production with that as well, and Crosby's giving you that production, 542 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,199 Speaker 5: So its TJ. Well, you need that in the building. 543 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 5: You just have to have that veteran and you pay 544 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 5: for that guy. And I think you pay more for 545 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 5: guys who you who you are homegrown, who have you drafted, 546 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 5: you've developed that bleed your colors, right, So for Maxcart's 547 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 5: be a great example, like you to me, you need 548 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 5: you need those guys on your roster and you try 549 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 5: to build around them as you get going. The Steelers 550 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 5: arguing for them is that they sort of have Cam 551 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 5: Hayward right, like they don't need maybe a second person 552 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 5: for that. But at those positions, those impact positions, pass rusher, 553 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 5: off the tackle, now, wide receiver, I think, cornerback, you 554 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 5: need dudes there to play. So even if you think 555 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 5: this is an overpay, and it might be, it's only 556 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 5: a three year deal, it's probably only a two year deal, 557 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 5: quite honestly. So you need those guys in the locker room. 558 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 5: You need guys that the players can look up to, 559 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 5: that players look and say, this is the way to 560 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 5: prepare and to win and and and to and also 561 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 5: sometimes when you've been through the hard struggles as a 562 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 5: player on a bad team and you become good like that, 563 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 5: having that perspective can help other players right as well. 564 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 5: So you have to do it as you'll so to 565 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,479 Speaker 5: The thing I think is important for the health of 566 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 5: just your roster building is right now that people are 567 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 5: questioning the Cowboys, what is Michael Well, you're not paying 568 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 5: Macha Parsons, Like, what are you doing. If you're a 569 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 5: player on that roster who's up for a deal, you're like, 570 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,199 Speaker 5: what why don't we pay Michael Park? Like do I 571 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 5: want to be here if we're not going to pay 572 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 5: that guy? Like are they going to pay me? What's 573 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 5: happening right now? And when you take care of your superstars, 574 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 5: then the players that are young that they look at 575 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 5: and say, hey, man, you know, I kind of want 576 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 5: to stay here, and maybe it'll take a little bit 577 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 5: less because I want to stay and we're building something here. 578 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 5: Free agents look at you and think, oh, well, well 579 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 5: they pay their superstars, they'll probably pay me too if 580 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 5: I do well there. Like, like, all those things matter. 581 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 5: When you build a roster. You want people to want 582 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 5: to come there. You want to be a place that 583 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 5: that develops players and pays those guys. Those end up 584 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 5: being often the core of winning teams. And then you 585 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 5: want the locker room. You want, you know, to have 586 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 5: that guy in the locker room as well. So I 587 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 5: get what all these deals happen. It makes good roster 588 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 5: building sense for them to happen. 589 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 4: You mentioned Michael Parsons, and that's the next portion of 590 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 4: this that's really. 591 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 3: Interesting to me. 592 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,959 Speaker 4: I don't know if you saw this, but Parsons actually 593 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 4: did an interview with the Undertaker. I didn't know the 594 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 4: Undertaker was out here doing like on form interviews with 595 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 4: NFL players that were deep and meaningful, but he was. 596 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 4: He was out here talking to Mike about getting paid. 597 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 4: And what was stunning to me is Jeff like, Okay, look, 598 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 4: we all know that the Cowboys seemed to do business 599 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 4: the wrong way. It always gets done, so like, I'm 600 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 4: done sitting here saying, well, they're not going to be 601 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 4: Like my god, I was on radio, you know when 602 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 4: everybody said that Zeke wasn't going to get a long 603 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 4: term deal. That's how many years we've been doing this 604 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 4: with the Cowboys. They always signed people, they just signed 605 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 4: people late. They're the anti Eagles and that process. But 606 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 4: it was pretty stunning to me because Michaeh flat out 607 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 4: admitted that his people went to the Cowboys and wanted 608 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 4: to do a deal a year ago, and the Cowboys 609 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 4: basically weren't interested. They had other priorities to handle. And 610 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 4: so I look at all this, I'm like, man, all 611 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 4: that happens every single time that somebody else gets paid 612 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 4: is that the value drives up and so the Cowboys 613 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 4: continue to sit here and let Parsons sort. 614 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 3: Of dangle in the wind, and they'll get it done. 615 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 4: But it's just what every time we sit here and 616 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 4: talk about why the Cowboys aren't who the Cowboys should be. 617 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 4: I think about moments like this when you've got a 618 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 4: superstar player sitting there with a former ww WE superstar 619 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 4: talking openly about the fact that there are too many 620 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 4: interferences in trying to get. 621 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 3: Business done and he just wants to get paid and 622 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 3: keep doing his job. 623 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 5: With the Cowboys. It just gets so much more expensive 624 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 5: every time someone gets someone gets a contract for Parsons, 625 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 5: and you you got to get these deals done before 626 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 5: it gets too expensive. And again you have a player 627 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 5: like Parsons, a homegrown player you've drafted who's a game wrecker. 628 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, they should have paid him the 629 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 5: second they had the opportunity to pay him. And look, 630 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 5: maybe there's a hole up there. We don't know what 631 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 5: happens in the locker. We don't know what happens behind 632 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 5: the scenes. Maybe he's a bad locker guy, maybe he's 633 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 5: a bad leadership guy. We don't know these things. I'm 634 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 5: just speculating on why he would be signed. But every 635 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 5: deal it's I mean, he could have they could have 636 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 5: gone him for for thirty five thirty three year, So 637 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 5: now they're gonna have to pay forty one forty two years. 638 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 5: I mean there's worth it, obviously, it's what the next 639 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 5: contract up is. But the Cowboys, maybe they've realized that 640 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 5: we're not as good as we think we are, and 641 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 5: we want to trade him for two first round picks 642 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 5: and rebuild. I mean that's certainly a possibility here, but 643 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 5: dracking their feet has cost them a lot of. 644 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 4: Money, and that much. Look, I don't care about Jerry's money. 645 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 4: I don't care about any owner. I want every owner 646 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 4: to just get spent to the point that they're poor, 647 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 4: Like they all have too much money. It's for we all, 648 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 4: I will say this though, Like it's it's the eventual inability. 649 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 3: To build the roster the way you want to build it. 650 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 4: And it's the eventual inability to be as flexible as 651 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 4: you need to be that lies squarely at the feet 652 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 4: of late decisions you were just you're far better in 653 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 4: especially the modern climate of the salary cap and the 654 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 4: way things work right now, you are so much better 655 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 4: taking an early jump on and if you're wrong, figure. 656 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 3: Out how to get out of it. 657 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 4: More than that, that is such a better problem to 658 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 4: have than to have to deal with the problem that 659 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,719 Speaker 4: you sign a series of contracts so late that you 660 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 4: were basically held with your feet to the fire by 661 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 4: Dak and buy CD and buy Micah like you're just 662 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 4: every single time, if you're late to this thing, you 663 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 4: just keep paying late fee after late fee after late fee, 664 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 4: and eventually you have a hard time paying your credit 665 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 4: card bills. 666 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 3: It's just it's it's an inevitability. 667 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 5: It just becomes very expensive. And again that the goal 668 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 5: I think of every team is you have, you know, 669 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 5: think short term, but also long term. And when teams 670 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 5: fail to think long term, it really it really hampered. 671 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 5: I mean, look, you mentioned the Eagles earlier, like they're 672 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 5: the best thing they've done. Obviously drafting and developing has 673 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 5: been fantastic, but they have they've they're able to pay 674 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 5: all these guys because they do it at the right time. 675 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 5: They spread the money out over the years, and to me, 676 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 5: it's just it's super important to understand where your roster 677 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,239 Speaker 5: is now where it needs to be, and to get 678 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 5: and to pay the guys you need to pay, and 679 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 5: the Cowboys have just really I think have mismanaged that. 680 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 5: I think we understand with the Steelers, we don't have 681 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 5: what they're doing, even though I disagree with what they're doing, 682 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 5: but they no long term thought whatsoever. Likes they're all 683 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 5: in this year and I mean, I just we're next season, 684 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 5: we'll be like, oh no, they made the playoffs and 685 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 5: lost the wild card around for the eighth straight season, 686 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 5: and then look at the roster and be like, oops, 687 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 5: we have to we have to rebuild and we have 688 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 5: nothing to rebuild around. 689 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 4: The hardest part about that is you said earlier that 690 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 4: the worst place you can be in the NFL is 691 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 4: stuck right stuck in the middle, the middle class NFL. 692 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 4: I hear that, but I remember so distinctly the year 693 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 4: that the Raiders. 694 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 3: Lost the Super Bowl. 695 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 4: I remember looking at my buddy and saying, man, because 696 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 4: that was the Super Bowl, the tuck rule, the Syrogusa game, 697 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 4: like I watched three four straight years and just the 698 00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 4: weirdest ways. 699 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 3: In the playoffs, and it was heartbreaking. 700 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 4: I remember looking at my buddy saying, you know what, 701 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 4: I'd rather suck than keep having this happen. 702 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 3: And I hear Steelers fans say that all the time. 703 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 3: It's like, I'd rather suck than have this happen. 704 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 4: I said that, and then I watched my beloved Raiders 705 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 4: lose double digit games for double digit years consecutively, and 706 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 4: it is crazy to me, because you're right, the worst 707 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 4: place you can be stuck is in the middle class. 708 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 4: I understand that until you wake up one day and 709 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 4: you're a Raiders fan or a Bears fan or a 710 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 4: Titans fan. The Steelers are too well run to have 711 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 4: that happen for a long time. But man, when you 712 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 4: just when you really dive into that level of just 713 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 4: Sundays are hopeless by September, the third week in September, you're. 714 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 3: Like, yep, another one of those years. Man, that's just heartbreaking. 715 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 5: Do you But you have that banner up of being 716 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 5: the Chiefs in October few years ago, right, you still 717 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 5: have the banner up there in the stadium. 718 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 4: I am one that doesn't talk my talk. I do 719 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 4: not talk my talk. I don't have any like I'll. 720 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 5: Just Raiders fans. I think John Grudey, he rose, he 721 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 5: put the banner up as he was driving around Erahead 722 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 5: Stadium after the game. I was making sure that that 723 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 5: that was still up. I know that's important to Raiders 724 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 5: fans on the internet. 725 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 4: I just the you know, if you, if you anyone 726 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 4: that's ever played pick up basketball, if you get dunked 727 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 4: on like fifteen times in a game, and then the 728 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 4: sixteenth time down the floor you finally get a block, 729 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 4: you don't talk, you just you just you know what 730 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 4: that you're one for fifteen. I don't understand why the 731 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 4: Raiders forgot that in that moment. 732 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 3: And god, it just it's. 733 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 5: Okay, it lives. It's nice. Look, the Raiders seem like 734 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 5: they have a plan at least, which again I mean 735 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 5: that that to me isn't is important. They have and 736 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 5: I a plan of how to build their roster and 737 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 5: attack for agency and whatnot. Which again, and I know 738 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 5: you want wins and that's super important, but at some point, 739 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 5: you know you're happy with just a plan. And one 740 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 5: thing you said is so important in the NFL sells hope 741 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 5: better than any other league. And it's for many reasons. 742 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,800 Speaker 5: What may it's what makes the NFL a really special league. 743 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I hope is the hardest thing to get, the 744 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 4: easiest thing to lose in football, and when you have it, 745 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 4: it's a very very special moment. 746 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 3: He's Jeff Schwartz on Jason fitz We're breaking. 747 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 4: Down some of the NFL camp storylines as they continue 748 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 4: to come in. But there is a big piece of 749 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 4: news that will impact the WNBA this weekend. We'll tell 750 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 4: you what it is obviously, and price is right follow me, 751 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 4: I'll fill you in. You got to know something about prices, right, 752 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 4: We're gonna do all that more. It's Two Pros and 753 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 4: a Cup of Joe on Fox Sports Radio. 754 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 755 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 2: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and 756 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 2: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific. 757 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 4: It's Two Pros and a Cup of Joe on Fox 758 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 4: Sports Radio. Jeff Schwartz, Jason Fitzen. For the guys, go 759 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 4: see Post Malone Life. It's a great show. Jelly Roll 760 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 4: also absolutely incredible. It's like a spiritual experience when Jelly 761 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 4: Roll is out there on that show. So if you 762 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:53,919 Speaker 4: have a chance to go see the big ass Stadium show, 763 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 4: go see it. They're incredible. Also, go to the Home Depot. 764 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 4: The Home Depot, it's about time for Pros it's about 765 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 4: time for pros to source the whole job with one partner. 766 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 3: Ask about all we can do for you at the 767 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 3: pro desk, the home depot pro. 768 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:09,359 Speaker 4: It's about time, Jeff, like, we a big concert goer, 769 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,399 Speaker 4: like wet we we out there going to like met 770 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 4: Life and hanging out at the big, the big, the 771 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 4: big shows. 772 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 5: Well, I live in Charlotte, so I feel like you 773 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 5: were in for some reason. 774 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:20,320 Speaker 3: I thought you were in. 775 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 5: But we we we get you know, we gotta get 776 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:22,800 Speaker 5: him out of shows. 777 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 778 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 5: No, my wife is a big concert goer. I am 779 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:32,320 Speaker 5: not as much. I think my daughter's nine, she's big 780 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 5: into concert. I think I will probably take my daughter 781 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,879 Speaker 5: too much of contract. It's not that I don't want 782 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 5: to go. I just don't go. My wife goes to 783 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 5: a lot of them. She's seen basically everybody. Uh she 784 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 5: will also like she flew to Vegas for e DC 785 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:51,320 Speaker 5: this year, so yeah, she she likes that. That vibe, 786 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 5: look at that. 787 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 3: That's see. I'm all in for Like. 788 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 4: It took me a minute after a tour and before 789 00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 4: I got to the point that I wanted to go 790 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 4: to shows, and then it was like, yeah, no, it's 791 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 4: just kid. 792 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 5: I'm just not a crowd person. You know, it's just like, 793 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 5: I don't know. 794 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 3: You're also a huge human being, dude. 795 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,320 Speaker 5: I would have gone. I would have loved to go 796 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 5: to Taylor Swift. That would have been fun. I think 797 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 5: she was in Atlanta. I though that was the closest 798 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 5: she was to us, But tickets were like it was 799 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 5: it was cheaper to fly. I had a buddy who 800 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 5: who lived in Sweden actually just moved back home, and 801 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,240 Speaker 5: he said he had tickets to a concert in Sweden. 802 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 5: I think it was cheaper for us to like fly 803 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 5: to Sweden to go watch her than it would have 804 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 5: been to just go to Atlanta and get tickets. That's 805 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 5: it was. The tickets were so expensive in the States 806 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 5: to see her last, her last concert, I just it 807 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 5: made it just couldn't justify taking my eight year old 808 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 5: and paying that much money. Yeah. 809 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,360 Speaker 4: No, I have a bunch of friends that went to 810 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 4: Amsterdam in Paris for that exact reason to see Taylor, 811 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 4: and I totally get it. But you are also, like 812 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 4: going to a concert, it's a different experience when you 813 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 4: wore a former NFL player. I'm just saying, like, uh so, 814 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 4: Jeff and I were hanging out at the super Bowl. 815 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 4: We were talking and this was hysterical to me. We're 816 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,359 Speaker 4: just over off on the side of Colin. I heard 817 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 4: was having a big party. So we're all we're all 818 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,840 Speaker 4: hanging out, and I say, hi, yeah, yeah, So like 819 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 4: I leave, I leave from you and I talk and 820 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 4: I walk over to Cavino and rich Also you should 821 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 4: listen to every Day here on Fox Sports Radio. And 822 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 4: immediately the guys are cracking up, and I'm like, what 823 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 4: is so funny? Gavino and Richard like just standing there 824 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,840 Speaker 4: watching you try and talk to somebody that is that large, 825 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 4: Like I'm five to nine, like everybody like, it's not 826 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 4: like I'm a small and I'm five to nine in 827 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 4: a quarter, thank you very much. 828 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:28,840 Speaker 3: Used to be five nine and a half. I'm shrimping 829 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:30,439 Speaker 3: and shrinking. That's what happens when you get old. 830 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 4: But like standing next to you, I look like I'm 831 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 4: five to two. So you know, going to a concert 832 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 4: much different when you're your size. 833 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 5: Yes, but I like music. I just don't. I just don't. 834 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 5: I just don't go to a lot of concerts. And 835 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,799 Speaker 5: my wife doesn't for me, I said, she she is, 836 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,320 Speaker 5: she's very into we you know, we I'm going to 837 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 5: Vegas next week for for Big ten Media Days, and 838 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 5: the Bactery Boys are at the Sphere and we my 839 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,879 Speaker 5: wife was gonna fly in to see the Backstory Boys 840 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 5: and the videos from last week. I'm looking in credible. 841 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 5: It was the other fro any night for them at 842 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 5: the Sphere, so she she might still come in. I 843 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:05,880 Speaker 5: might go with her if we if she comes in 844 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 5: town for that. That looks like a lot of fun. 845 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 5: That concert looks incredible. 846 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, that's on the muskle, Like, I got to 847 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 4: find a way to get to Vegas before that ends, 848 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 4: because that that show looks Anything at the Sphere just 849 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 4: looks incredible because of the work that they put into the. 850 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 3: Visual on that performance. And also, by the way, I 851 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 3: don't think this is a hot take. The Backstreet Boys 852 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 3: are great, good good music. 853 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,279 Speaker 4: Like, look, they're now the Backstreet Men maybe at their 854 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 4: but come on, like, I'm all in, I'm all in, Like. 855 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 5: It's certainly the Backstreet Men. Yeah, I think that's the 856 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 5: way to put it. 857 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, we'll rebringing new kids on the block 858 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 3: are out here. 859 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,320 Speaker 4: Like Also, if I if I still had abs, I 860 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:43,280 Speaker 4: wouldn't be wearing. 861 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 3: If I had abs. I never had them. If I 862 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 3: had ABS, I wouldn't be wearing a T shirt and 863 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 3: a lot of the some. 864 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 4: Of the new kids out there like just you know, hey, 865 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,399 Speaker 4: they're court with kind of new men on the block. 866 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,399 Speaker 4: Now not new kids on the block, but it's funny. 867 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 5: I'm all in on this. 868 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 3: Also a little sports here. 869 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,240 Speaker 4: The w NBA All Star Weekend is is this weekend, 870 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 4: and you and I were talking about this yesterday, but 871 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 4: I said yesterday on air that the hardest part about 872 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 4: all of this is the opportunity lost. Like Caitlin Clark 873 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,280 Speaker 4: is going to be at the game as the Adventure 874 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 4: as an ambassador. But man, Jeff, this just feels like 875 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 4: a huge opportunity loss because it's just not going to 876 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:20,720 Speaker 4: get the focus. 877 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,880 Speaker 5: So I I I'll go say this. I watched a 878 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 5: lot of WNBA one for one, I just became like 879 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 5: a Kaitlin Clark fan. I like watching her play basketball. 880 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 5: I think she's very it's a very exciting brand of 881 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 5: basketball to watch and it's it's enjoyable. So I've become 882 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 5: a fan. I've watched a lot of her games, and 883 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 5: I watched all our games with the fever, and we 884 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 5: can get this in a second. The WA is just 885 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,359 Speaker 5: missing their opportunity to capitalize on this. I don't I 886 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,319 Speaker 5: don't know why, to be honest with you. They have 887 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,400 Speaker 5: an opportunity to really strike gold here and they're just 888 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,920 Speaker 5: not taking full advantage of it in many different ways. 889 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 4: You're right, they aren't, and it's becoming more and more 890 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 4: contentious through all of it, when it should be the opposite. 891 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 4: I'll tell you what I mean about that. Next these 892 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 4: Jeff Schwartz, I'm Jason Fitz. We're hanging out with two 893 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,320 Speaker 4: pros and a cup of Joe on Fox Sports Radio.