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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily on ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Zigura in

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Speaker 1: a training camp of the improbable. The impossible has happened.

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Speaker 1: It is approaching ninety and we're doing it live on

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Speaker 1: a first Friday. And a little homage to my boy,

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Speaker 1: Vin Scully out of the gates. I love for the people. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: for the people. He was my guy. That was my guy,

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Speaker 1: that was your guy. So life lived well. He called

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Speaker 1: one of the great moments of my childhood, although I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't pretend to be have been old enough to appreciate

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Speaker 1: in the moment, but it was something that was on

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Speaker 1: in my house a billion times. The replay, which of

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Speaker 1: course is the catch for the forty niners, and also

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Speaker 1: called one of the worst moments, which was probably a

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Speaker 1: delight for you, and one that I still hate seeing

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Speaker 1: every time I see it. I watched them last night

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Speaker 1: when I saw the news that he had passed. I

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Speaker 1: watched the It's a it's like an eight minute at bad,

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Speaker 1: it's a forever at that. It's just and as they

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Speaker 1: as he as he as gives it his like, you know,

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Speaker 1: trying to get to the banner's box because he doesn't

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Speaker 1: have knees, um, he can't walk. Can is unhittable, He's unitable.

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Speaker 1: They put a graphic up that says Eckersley has not

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Speaker 1: given up a home run since like nine, Like, there's

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Speaker 1: a graphic up that says he hadn't given up a

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Speaker 1: he's the m v P that year. Right, Yeah, I'd

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Speaker 1: like to know who put that graphic up there. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, it smacked them unnecessary. The graphic comes up.

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Speaker 1: You know, I haven't watched like the full thing in

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Speaker 1: a long time, but I did last night. But like

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Speaker 1: I forgot how many balls he fouled off. Yes, it

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Speaker 1: was a it was a thousand. It was like a

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Speaker 1: wasn't it And I'm gonna try not to exegitate, but

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Speaker 1: wasn't like at at Yes, it just kept he at

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Speaker 1: one point, the one right before the home run. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, Scully goes and a little number like he

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Speaker 1: just kind of just h's barely dribbling down the first

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Speaker 1: Scully had this incredible gift to just let it. I

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Speaker 1: didn't go. I just was devastated and me rushed. You

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Speaker 1: had so much winning at that time, it was good

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Speaker 1: for you to be humbled a little bit. The a's

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Speaker 1: were the ones that we had won. The next year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but then that was marred by an earthquake. Devastate shouldn't

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Speaker 1: and it's yeahs four pm, no big deal, the Lomo

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Speaker 1: the double the game before. Of course that it was

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Speaker 1: a sweep. It was the Bay or the Baybridge s

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Speaker 1: super cool. Then the Baby Bridge collapses. Yeah, that was

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Speaker 1: a little bit of its lesser. And then get smoked

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Speaker 1: again the next year by the Nasty Boys, which that

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Speaker 1: one made no sense. Smoked, absolutely made no sense. Billy

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Speaker 1: Hatcher hit like five thousand, which I know you can

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Speaker 1: the records every you gotta hit every time he was

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Speaker 1: up he did? You absolutely did? Um. Yeah, it was

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Speaker 1: you know I think about that a lot with Jim, right.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking about that with Jim. How you know,

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Speaker 1: for a generation of of people out there, if you're

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Speaker 1: at a certain age, there are these voices that are

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Speaker 1: uh Tom here obviously. Now with with baseball here you

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Speaker 1: think about Jack Buck St. Louis, you could get Cardinals

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Speaker 1: Ibby could probably speak to that like he was. That

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Speaker 1: Like you could get Cardinal games anywhere flus kmo X

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Speaker 1: there you go, Lois, Yeah, I mean you cut truly

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Speaker 1: like you could get him in from Texas right here

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Speaker 1: like an incredible stick. Artie Hardwell with Detroit like the

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Speaker 1: was thinking, you know, from a modern perspective like you

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Speaker 1: I mean, Jim is the voice of that that. I

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Speaker 1: there's no doubt, he is the voice. He is the

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Speaker 1: iconic voice of the Browns. And it's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: lot of fun to get to hear, you know, be there.

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Speaker 1: and I certainly you know, can't wait for that, can't

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Speaker 1: wait for the season. Here's the crazy thing is the

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Speaker 1: first game is now nine days away, the first preseason

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Speaker 1: game nine days away, down into something. That Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame game is happening tomorrow, tomorrow. I know it. Nowhere

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Speaker 1: Jacksonvill playing tomorrow night in the Hall of Fame game.

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Speaker 1: I saw no Etty and no Lawrence, like if at

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Speaker 1: some point, I mean this is that is a beautiful

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Speaker 1: It's based have been built for that one game, right,

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Speaker 1: That's the one game that's built for. Isn't it kind

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Speaker 1: of owed not to play a game? But I mean,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have an inter squad practice with the Eagles here?

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Speaker 1: What next week? Um? Or is it the week after

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Speaker 1: week after? Week after? Yeah, the week after Jaxon, And

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Speaker 1: it hurt to run Trevor Lawrence out for two series

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Speaker 1: and just say, hey, guys, stay away from his legs

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Speaker 1: a controlled practice, Like I'm with you, isn't that more valuable? Like?

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Speaker 1: Do we are? We really? Do we really need to see,

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Speaker 1: whoever's broadcasting the game tomorrow, I don't know who it is,

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Speaker 1: kind of fine with if the first week of the preseason,

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Speaker 1: where you decide and you say, you know what quarterbacks are.

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Speaker 1: You can't touch a quarterback? Yes? Perfect? What wouldn't you

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Speaker 1: got pertea Trevor Lawrence right that you get to see

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Speaker 1: all right, here's the first football we're gonna have this year.

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Speaker 1: Everybody is in the birthplace of the game. It's the

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Speaker 1: one of the great weekends on the calendar. I cannot wait.

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Speaker 1: I mean can you imagine next year we're gonna be

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Speaker 1: doing that's what We're gonna be there. I mean this

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Speaker 1: this show will be there. Yes, I would imagine. I mean,

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Speaker 1: how can we not be there? Give it? It feels

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Speaker 1: So I had uh six and seven year old skill assessment,

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Speaker 1: football version of the Oklahoma Drill. Okay. So I get

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Speaker 1: have the half again this week? Yeah? Half will join

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Speaker 1: I don't know who was having more fun the half

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Speaker 1: for Callahan, Kalen was loving it. The players, I think

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Speaker 1: awesome about that particular play is that on that one

427
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Speaker 1: Mike Woods actually made a sight adjustment based on what

428
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Speaker 1: the corner did to alter his route, but did it

429
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Speaker 1: in such a way that he was able to communicate

430
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Speaker 1: to Jacoby Brissette without communicating what he was doing, and

431
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 1: it led to a huge play for the offense. Now,

432
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Speaker 1: let's not forget he didn't really show up until the

433
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Speaker 1: end of mini camp because he was injured. Made an

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Speaker 1: imp USh and there he has been one of the

435
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Speaker 1: early breakouts and stars here of this training camp here

436
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Speaker 1: uh session. And to have that kind of a veteran

437
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 1: wherewithal that early I know was very impressive and people

438
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,680
Speaker 1: talked about how he's a natural hands catcher, he's creating separation,

439
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 1: but they say his mental acumen for the game is

440
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Speaker 1: really jumping out and it's translating to him frankly making

441
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Speaker 1: plays every single day. Well, let's go, let's let's do

442
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Speaker 1: some This is always fun to do because we when

443
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Speaker 1: we when we have these conversations of draft picks who

444
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Speaker 1: potentially could be fines and who knows if Woods will

445
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Speaker 1: be or not. Let's play a little quick game. Where

446
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 1: do you go to college? Arkansas initially, then Oklahoma and

447
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 1: then Oklahoma. And at Oklahoma they ran one of the

448
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 1: more sophisticated pass offenses in the country with Lincoln Riley

449
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 1: that had to Heisman Trophy winners Baker Mayfield, Kyler Murray

450
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,879
Speaker 1: and another one um in in Jalen Hurts, who is

451
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Speaker 1: a transfer from Alabama. So they the point of all

452
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Speaker 1: of this is he there there are a few places

453
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Speaker 1: in the country at receiver where you get a master

454
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 1: class in how to play the position. Ohio States one

455
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 1: of them. L s U Despite all sorts of crazy

456
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 1: things with their offenses through the years, has been one

457
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Speaker 1: of them, and Oklahoma was one of them. So he's

458
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 1: comes in ready. He comes in ready. The amount of

459
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Speaker 1: reps that he has gotten in practice, what is demanded

460
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 1: in their past catching scheme is something that I want

461
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Speaker 1: to translate directly to the league. You do feel a

462
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 1: little bit it's early z. It does feel a little

463
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 1: bit like and I know their pedigrees are different, but

464
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 1: it feels a little bit like the DPJ thing that

465
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Speaker 1: we noticed that first year. Both six round picks, very

466
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Speaker 1: different players. I'm not saying that, but from the standpoint

467
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Speaker 1: of this guy is better than where he was drafted

468
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Speaker 1: as of today, no doubt. And it's one of those

469
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Speaker 1: things that's kind of amazing because it feels like something

470
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 1: that the Browns really kind of needed that to be

471
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Speaker 1: the case. And that's because, for example, yesterday's practice, there

472
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Speaker 1: was Noahmari Cooper, there was no Anthony Schwartz, there was

473
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Speaker 1: no David Bell, and so you need somebody to step up,

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Speaker 1: and so far, Mike Woods has done a tremendous job

475
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Speaker 1: of doing exactly that. But a great point on his pedigree,

476
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Speaker 1: He's made an impression. Can he keep it going, that's

477
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Speaker 1: the question. But so far, from a mental standpoint, nothing

478
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 1: has been too big for him. He's been on point there,

479
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 1: disability gained separation, and I can tell you from talking

480
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Speaker 1: to some of the dbs, they've noticed they said twelve

481
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Speaker 1: twelve can play. And I'm talking about prominent dbs on

482
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Speaker 1: this team who have said, you know, twelve twelve can play.

483
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Speaker 1: He's the guy that's he's given us a little bit

484
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Speaker 1: of problems. You know, A J. Green is having a

485
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Speaker 1: great camp and on that particular play, what A J

486
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 1: did you would have thought would have stopped what Mike

487
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Speaker 1: Woods was trying to do. But he made a very

488
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Speaker 1: veteran like adjustment and turned something that could have been

489
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Speaker 1: nothing into a very, very big play. And I think

490
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Speaker 1: that is a testament. Like I said to him, but

491
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Speaker 1: that stood out. I thought it was a great day

492
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Speaker 1: for the tight ends. And here's something I was having

493
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Speaker 1: a conversation yesterday after practice with a great friend of

494
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Speaker 1: the program, Jeff Howard, and then today I got to

495
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Speaker 1: talk with T. C. McCartney, which is something that we

496
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Speaker 1: will have for you guys on tomorrow's program, the Player's

497
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Speaker 1: day Off, and one of the things they brought up

498
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 1: a point that I thought was very, very interesting. The

499
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Speaker 1: whole spring, the O, T, A, S and many camp,

500
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Speaker 1: we talked about it being a passing camp. Seven on

501
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 1: seven was really the bulk of everything that was done.

502
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 1: All the team work was done maybe a quarter speed.

503
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Speaker 1: So seven on seven, what kind of play is gonna

504
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Speaker 1: happen in every seven on seven? Play a past? Play

505
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 1: spin it? That's right, And now coach Yard said, he

506
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 1: asked that exact question and got the exact hand. Well,

507
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a pass. Well, yeah, it is gonna

508
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Speaker 1: be a past. So he's saying, But of the varieties

509
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Speaker 1: of past we can deal with. There's quick game, there's

510
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: you know, your five seven step drops, vertical game, there's

511
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Speaker 1: intermedi game, and then there are you know, screen game.

512
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Speaker 1: Could you could have their or but what you can

513
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Speaker 1: have is play action you know, run play action seven

514
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Speaker 1: on sevens. So he said, the goal, one of the

515
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Speaker 1: goals for this team was on defense was to be

516
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Speaker 1: great at the play action game once we got here,

517
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Speaker 1: because there was really no work in it, even though

518
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Speaker 1: it's a huge part of what a defense has to do.

519
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 1: And flip conversely, it's a huge part of what the

520
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Speaker 1: offense has to do. When you talk about the tight ends,

521
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 1: first day in the pads, on first day full speed

522
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Speaker 1: and team situations, that's the first time for them to

523
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Speaker 1: run a lot of that play action game, and so

524
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Speaker 1: that's gonna be depending on their ability to sell that

525
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 1: it's a run still get out in their routes. A

526
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Speaker 1: lot of the play actions involved the tight ends run

527
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Speaker 1: those shallow crosses on the boots on the backside coming

528
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Speaker 1: across the formation, and so it was their first opportunity

529
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Speaker 1: to run a lot of those plays as well. And

530
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Speaker 1: the tight ends had a great day. John Stanton had

531
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Speaker 1: I think like five or six grabs in that one.

532
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 1: Harrison Brian ends some nice grabs, The Chief had a

533
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Speaker 1: nice tight end screen and run um. All of those

534
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,239
Speaker 1: guys really kind of showed yesterday. Miller four Stall had

535
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Speaker 1: a couple of great plays as well. So this was

536
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Speaker 1: that's what was so cool about yesterday. It was just

537
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Speaker 1: the first saying the pads. It was the first day

538
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Speaker 1: for our offense and our defense to engage in concepts

539
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Speaker 1: that for our offense we're gonna be critical to its

540
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Speaker 1: success at times, and for our defense it's important to

541
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Speaker 1: stop which are the play action games. And so you've

542
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Speaker 1: got to see that yesterday, which was something I hadn't

543
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Speaker 1: thought about, Like you're getting all this pass work, but

544
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Speaker 1: a big part of the past game is the play

545
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Speaker 1: action game. And with that expert analysis out of you,

546
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Speaker 1: we head to the podium and coach to Fanski. Oh boy,

547
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: all right, thanks marsh Rob, all right, good to see

548
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 1: you guys. Warm one out here today, which is good.

549
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: We need to work in the heat. I got Jacksonville

550
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: coming up. Lord knows what that temperature could be down

551
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: there at night, so we need to work in the heat.

552
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: So I think we're all looking forward to it. And

553
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 1: then then the message with that obviously is the hydrate

554
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 1: and take care of ourselves. So that's uh what we're

555
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: looking forward to doing today. Congratulations to Calli's team. They

556
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: won today. They beat Finland ten, so I think they

557
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 1: got maybe one more game out there, the gold medal game,

558
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 1: so we're all keeping close eye. We had that game

559
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: streaming on the TVs in there today. But with that,

560
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: I'll take any questions. Jack conc touch on his bounced

561
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: back from NAT injury and as you know, your perspective healths. Yeah,

562
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: we've talked about it and I'm really impressed with Jack

563
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: and how he's worked He's taking every single day as

564
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 1: an opportunity to get better and get stronger. That's you know,

565
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 1: one thing to rehab an injury and get healthy. He's

566
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 1: trying to get stronger and he's done that. So I've

567
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,479
Speaker 1: been very impressed with his work ethic and I think

568
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 1: that rubs off on his position. What Steve is he

569
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: what he's out there for you every day. Yeah, I

570
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: think any of those vet's Scott u that have kind

571
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: of been there, done that, and I've seen a lot

572
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: of football can be a great stabilizing force for guys

573
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Speaker 1: across the offensive line. Think about young players, how you

574
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: can have a veteran next to you and then in

575
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Speaker 1: that huddle with all your guys. I think it does

576
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Speaker 1: make a big difference for Jacob come into injuries. Feel like, Yeah,

577
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: I think he's in a good spot. We're excited about Jacob.

578
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: Like you mentioned, being healthy is a big part of it,

579
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: and he is. Uh So, he's doing a nice job.

580
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: He's getting a ton of reps out here. His athleticism,

581
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: as you know, shows up in practice and certainly as

582
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: we get into games. But he's right on schedule, uh

583
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: and and we just need him to continue to work final.

584
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: It hasn't been in there all the five to see

585
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: the final prop stay one more time to him like

586
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: the final piece products to get him in there. Oh yeah, sure,

587
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: I mean I think certainly, as you know, we value length,

588
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: we value speed. That's Jacob's game. He's a smart, tough,

589
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: physical football player. Uh. So excited to see what he

590
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: can do and part of it. Again, I know he's

591
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: going into third year, but he's hasn't been in the

592
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: lineup all the time. So for practice, it's just huge

593
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: getting him rep after rep after rep. Uh. I would

594
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: single him out though from another guy who worked really

595
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: really hard. I mean he was here a lot in

596
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: the off season. Uh. And and those guys that stay

597
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: here seem to get bigger, stronger, faster. Their personalities, their

598
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: nature is that other still together? Yeah, deed, I think

599
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: that just speaks to those two people. Uh. They're very

600
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: very different, as you know, but they both love football.

601
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: They both love to win, they both love to push

602
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: each other. Uh. But different people, different players, different styles,

603
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,959
Speaker 1: all that type of thing. Uh, but they really they

604
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: do push each other. Oh. Go and has got band

605
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: strong personalities and that received from the union the field,

606
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: that leadership point that way. I think when it comes

607
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: to leadership, Jeff, you can't force that. You can't be

608
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Speaker 1: somebody you're not. So you know you mentioned the wide

609
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: receiver room. Obviously Amari is the veteran in there. But

610
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: Amari just being himself, he can be a leader because

611
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: you can lead by example in that way. So I

612
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: would not encourage anybody to to try to take on

613
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: a leadership role by being something they're not. Had a

614
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: group camp so far. I'm curious, what's something about him

615
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: that surprised you? Had it you see him in a

616
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: little bit more actions. Yeah, I don't know that anything

617
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: has surprised me. He's played football on a big stage

618
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: in college. He's done a nice job from the standpoint

619
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: of being assignment sound, which is not always Uh, this

620
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: is the thing that you'll see from young players. So

621
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: I've been impressed by that aspect of it. And then

622
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: coach says, get open to catch the ball, and he's

623
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: done that a home scrimmage, any game this weekend, no question.

624
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: It's a little bit gun signs here. I stayed here too. Uh.

625
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: You know. I respect guys that go home and go

626
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: to their wherever they work out. They work hard too,

627
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: So I don't want to make it seem like you

628
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: have to stay here. I get to see it firsthand.

629
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: The guys that stay here, that come in the building

630
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: every day, that are in early UM, put in the

631
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: work with their teammates, put in the work with our coaches.

632
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: I've seen those guys take great strides. Again, not to

633
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: say the guys that don't stay here don't, but it's

634
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: fun to see a guy in the middle of march

635
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: here working on his craft. Whether they're some guys are

636
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: rehabbing from an injury, some guys are just trying to

637
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: get better. Similar Yeah, I say there's there's similarities. I

638
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: would tell you between every offense, they all have these

639
00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: common threads, and then there's nuance, which varies the scheme

640
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: to scheme. So Jacobe has been in a couple of

641
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: different schemes already, going back to New England and Indian Miami.

642
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: So there's definitely plays that he's run that we run

643
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: that he knows exactly what those plays are about. As

644
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: we've evolved in the last couple of years here, we've

645
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: added and and tweaked certain things that we do, so

646
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: he's getting up to speed on that. They're divergent personalities

647
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: endo word result business. Sure, it's just the whether do

648
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: you presure that oisterous and flamboyant flashy No, I don't care,

649
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: I really don't. I think again, I think it goes

650
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: back to the previous question about leadership. You just want

651
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: everybody to be authentic and to be themselves. Uh. There's

652
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: a bunch of boisterous rooms in there. I hear them.

653
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: So it's not like we got a bunch of choir boys.

654
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: Guys are having fun, they're being loud, they're excited about

655
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: playing football. But ultimately we just want them to be themselves.

656
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: Are you guys traveling to now? Just one day early?

657
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: It's something I wanted to do. Got a couple of

658
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 1: things I want to get done down there. Yes, s Kevin,

659
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: if you've heard anything from the met an't potentially I

660
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: have nothing tomorrow. You guys are players are off? Correct?

661
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: You encourage them to stay home. I know they only

662
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: have to be here for rehab if there's nothing formal, Right, No,

663
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 1: there's nothing formal. H we are we have a bunch

664
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 1: of modalities that we can offer them here. Uh, we

665
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 1: certainly are are here for you want to recover? Uh

666
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: and and luckily they'll have something to recover from after today.

667
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: But what they do with their off day, so much

668
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 1: of it is getting their mind, body, and spirit right

669
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 1: for the next day. Kevin, what are you look on

670
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: last year during that time when he was out with device?

671
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 1: Is it something you learned about him? I mean he

672
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: was in every meeting, and again that's not always the

673
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: case with guys that are injured for you know, going

674
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: to be out for a long time. So he was

675
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: in every meeting. Knows exactly what we're doing. To play

676
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: that mic linebacker role, you gotta you have to know

677
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 1: what you're doing inside and out because you're directing traffic

678
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: traffic often times. I think Jacobs a student of this game.

679
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: I think coach Tarbert does a great job with him

680
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: so that he can really dive into this scheme and

681
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: some of the different things that we do offer this

682
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 1: scheme really quick. I guess we haven't everything last week.

683
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: If you guys don't wake the talk tissue injuries, especially

684
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: in resas and have you seen guys making like ever

685
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 1: take it into Yeah, I have actually, uh and and

686
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: I think it's it's we're offering it and we're encouraging it. Obviously,

687
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: but everything we do, from how we structure this practice too,

688
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 1: to really all how we've structured the training campus to

689
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: make sure that we get this football team ready to

690
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,399
Speaker 1: play and we do it in a safe manner. Part

691
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: of that is each guy taking it upon themselves to

692
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: to recover with their body. And there's many things in

693
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 1: there that we can offer them, uh in that regard,

694
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: but that's so much of being a pro is taking

695
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: advantage of things that that can get your body back

696
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,760
Speaker 1: after these practices. Speaking of that went back to Jack obviously,

697
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: the physical recovery, the BT evotional recovery of what you

698
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: guys think the system in that regard, well, I think

699
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: that's a the mental health piece of it. I mean

700
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: for anybody, if you've ever been injured h and you're

701
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: not playing in that moment, it can be you can

702
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: be isolated from the team. I mean it's easy to

703
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: sit there on the training table not feel a part

704
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,959
Speaker 1: of it. So we really want to encourage our guys

705
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: when they're not in and getting those reps. Maybe they're

706
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: not they're maybe they're on injury there. We always are

707
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: encouraging guys to make sure that they still feel part

708
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: of this team because they're a big part of it.

709
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: I think back to guys over the years that are

710
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: on I R and they're just in the building and

711
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,720
Speaker 1: they want to be around the team, and that's certainly

712
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 1: a big part of what we encourage. Pays three days

713
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: more just where you can say just the way the

714
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: schedule comes out is trying to be mindful things Tony

715
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: and then knowing that we're gonna be going down to Jacksonville,

716
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: just trying to work the schedule as you see fit.

717
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: You know, everybody's preseason games don't come on the same day,

718
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: so you'll start to see a little bit divergence of

719
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:23,240
Speaker 1: schedules throughout the league. Dust. Yeah, I mean I address

720
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: those type of things really every day with the guys.

721
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 1: It's a competitive practice, it's a competitive sport, it's a

722
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 1: physical sport, all those things. So I do understand that

723
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: guys are gonna play hard and there's a chippiness to

724
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: every practice that we've ever been a part of and

725
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 1: and all of our lives. All right. That's Coach Defanski

726
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: from the podium. Uh, it actually did wrap up as well,

727
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: So that was as I see a pretty kind of

728
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: dispersing over there. The players starting to matriculate out. We'll

729
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 1: get into what we're seeing there as we start the

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Speaker 1: com to eight three nine nine. Uh the team out here,

746
00:38:55,440 --> 00:39:00,479
Speaker 1: not in not in paths. That's all right, Well it happens. Listen,

747
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: let's be outlets. Stevie's a work comprised no no, no, no, no.

748
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: I made the changes because I saw it and clearly

749
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: it did not say right. We put it on the head,

750
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: on the head, and I specifically sent him a note.

751
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: I was like, please check with me before you put

752
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: that in the rundown? Wasn't the for Stevie Enowski? That

753
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: didn't end up with like a shaved head. I don't

754
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: have any hair on red. But it was not just

755
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: the head. It was eyebrows too. It was like a salamander.

756
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,240
Speaker 1: I had a roommate that had is just one eyebrow

757
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 1: shaped well that because he's the least that's something you

758
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: shouldn't have. The least surprising thing ever, that you had.

759
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 1: You you ran with a group of humans who would

760
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: shave off eyebrows upon over in time. Just one, just

761
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: one and eyebrow just not surprising very much, as as

762
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: also not surprising. The hop one out this morning on

763
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 1: the shoals of Lake Era did he? Oh big, look

764
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: at him? Look at that guy? Where did he? Where?

765
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: Did you know? Wednesday? What else am I going to do?

766
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: That looks like a substantial fish. That's what a walleye?

767
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: He said. He got a couple of steel head and

768
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: a couple of Walleye. That's a big boy. That's a

769
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: big isn't it. Yeah, Yeah, that's it. He's just his

770
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: pure joy around here. Oh yeah, a few steel had

771
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: a few Walleyes for a meal. He said that one

772
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 1: fish looks like it could be a meal. That's the

773
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 1: kind of thing that I used to back in the day,

774
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 1: like to you know, get in there and it reminds

775
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: me of that's like a the fish version of a

776
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: nice brown spot. It's just just aut Yeah. Yeah, well

777
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: you're your your youth growing up near the little Blackfoot River.

778
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: You get out there and cast to fly and see

779
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: if you could catch a nice trout, nice rainbow, even

780
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: getting jumping. Absolutely, that's the way that that goes. Um,

781
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: So what do we expect to see today? By the way,

782
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: that that was really cool. I seeing Myles soon, I

783
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: see him running out there, not now and the kids

784
00:40:54,680 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: going crazy. Um. He feels really embracing of this as

785
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,919
Speaker 1: of the franchise thing that's he's been for a little

786
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: bit a while, but it feels like really feels comfortable

787
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: with it here. Uh. In this season, there's been times

788
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: when I agree. So if he was always something that

789
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: you know, personality wise, it's not natural. I don't necessarily,

790
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: he's a quieter guy by nature, but it feels like

791
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: he's really embracing it now. I think you're exactly right.

792
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: And I think he's been obviously. You know, we know

793
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 1: what an incredible talent he is on the field. We

794
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: know about his involvement in the community and things that

795
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: he believes in, from social justice and get involved with

796
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: the murals across downtown Cleveland and giving back, and you

797
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:34,959
Speaker 1: just see him. I do think that there's a great

798
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: comfort that he has right now and not only who

799
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 1: he is, who he is with this franchise, who he

800
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 1: is with this fan base. And I've seen him interact

801
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: with the fans, you know, every year that he's been here.

802
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 1: He's always been great about that. But it just feels

803
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: like he's almost enjoying it as much as the other

804
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 1: people receiving comfortable with it, Like just I got this now,

805
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: I know who I am. I'm all about it. I

806
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,479
Speaker 1: know it. And I think about that moment um last

807
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: year in the Bears game when they were channing Miles

808
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: Garrett and it just was heard all around the shores

809
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: of Lake Erie, and you know, when he had four

810
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: and a half sacks, the franchise record, and that that

811
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: there was just kind of it feels like all of

812
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 1: that has come come home to roost a little bit

813
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: for him in a very very good way. I think

814
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: that's true. And there's been a there's been a joy

815
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: about him, which is something that you really like to see.

816
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: And I think there's a certain joy around this particular team,

817
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: which you could say in the midst of the tumult

818
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: and the turmoil that that would be hard to believe.

819
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 1: But it does feel like a group. And we've heard

820
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: about the vibes, and of course Kevin Stefanskia is only

821
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: he would would say, I'm not big on vibes. I'm

822
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: not really interested in vibes, but he has there is

823
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: a definite feeling around this football team that a they're talented,

824
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: be they really really like each other, they like working together,

825
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,240
Speaker 1: and that I think they were able to forge bonds

826
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 1: on and off the field that we're not readily available

827
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,399
Speaker 1: to them, you know, certainly the last two seasons, which

828
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: were the first two seasons with this coaching staff and

829
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: with this regime, and so I think that that's been

830
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: a very positive thing. And I think the guys are

831
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 1: enjoying it. Miles certainly would be at the forefront of that. Yeah,

832
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: certainly would um. So again, the guys just starting to

833
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: trickle out here at the c c mc um you

834
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: mentioned the uh, you know, we we we are kind

835
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: of on the clock here when it comes to if

836
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: there's gonna be an appeal from the NFL. Uh. They

837
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 1: have until tomorrow at nine am to issue an appeal

838
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: on this. Um. It's one of those things where I

839
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: think that it's almost a paralysis by analysis, Like you know,

840
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: it's like in the in the initial after the initial

841
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: ruling was handed out, it felt like there were so

842
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: many things we did that show with Joe, and it

843
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: was like, there's so many things that make it very

844
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: difficult to appeal of this. But then it feels like

845
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: more and more people but then I can't. I don't

846
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: know how much of that is just social media and

847
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 1: how much of it is reality. It's hard to know.

848
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: Like I think we get there's a sense that like

849
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 1: the whole world's on Twitter, and the reality is it's

850
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: not not and and so like some of the stuff

851
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: you see there isn't necessarily reality, but it does feel

852
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: like from a national perspective, that most people naturally believe

853
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: there will be an appeal from the NFL, and I

854
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: I and as I sit here today and some people

855
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 1: that I've spoken to, I'm not so sure about that.

856
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 1: I think watching NFL Network today, you saw Ian Rappaport,

857
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 1: who obviously you would imagine will be plugged, and he

858
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: was the first one that had the six games. Uh.

859
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: What he was doing was saying, yes, there could be

860
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: an appeal, but there also might not be an appeal,

861
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: and here's why. And he actually laid out very clearly

862
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 1: the things that honestly we said on to today right

863
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: when it happened, which are what some of the people

864
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: who are just out for what they believe justice should

865
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: be are not factoring in. And so the upside again

866
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 1: for the NFL to appeal is that those people who

867
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: feel that justice has not been served, the NFL gets

868
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: an opportunity to make that right to serve justice on

869
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson because we know they had wanted, you know,

870
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: a year or twelve games, whatever it is. So that's

871
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: what they the benefit and there could be a pr

872
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 1: benefit from those people who felt that justice has not

873
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: been done by Sue L. Robinson in this process. That's

874
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 1: why they appeal. The other the opposite side, why they

875
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,760
Speaker 1: don't appeal Number one. They have set up this process,

876
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: a federal judge, Suell Robinson, has ruled on it, and

877
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: so you would be undermining in essence that process on

878
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 1: its very first case. I think that's one of the

879
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:21,919
Speaker 1: reasons that the NFL p A came out and said

880
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 1: we are going to honor this process regardless of the outcome.

881
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: They had hope. The NFL said that they would do

882
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: the same. The NFL did not. So that's one part

883
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: of it, right, is that the factor judge. But that's

884
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 1: not the real reason that they would not do this.

885
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 1: If they really felt that strongly about it that they would.

886
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: Here's the reason that I believe if they do not appeal,

887
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: it ultimately will have come down to this number one.

888
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: And this is Ian Rapports saying these same things. But

889
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: this is exactly what we said as on Tuesday or

890
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: actually it was Monday. Our days are off. I feel

891
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 1: like it's you know what, I agree with you. I

892
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: thought I thought yesterday it was first Friday, and it wasn't.

893
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:02,919
Speaker 1: So what we said on Monday months happened on Monday. One.

894
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 1: You appeal this goes to federal court. That means number one,

895
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: it's likely to Shaun Watson plays in the opener. It

896
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: also means that this will be a pre eminent story

897
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: for the National Football League indefinitely. At that point, we

898
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: don't know when it's going to be resolved. It will

899
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: be looming over everything. And the bigger part of that

900
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: not just the fact that you know, hey, we have

901
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: attends to kind of close the bed on this. We've

902
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 1: got the Hall of Fame game Thursday, We've got the

903
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame Saturday. We can get into preseason and

904
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: then the season and all of that. It also opens

905
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: up the possibility, as we know, one of the NFL

906
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,879
Speaker 1: p A s arguments was about owners who have been

907
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: involved in similar acts or have been you know, things

908
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 1: that are maybe untoward being brought to light under oath

909
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: in a federal court, and that the upside of imposing

910
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: a little more discipline and getting quote unquote justice, and

911
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: the benefits of that of appealing, you know, those who

912
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: want to see that handed down, getting their approval for

913
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: that that benefits doesn't have the same magnitude as the

914
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: potential downside of this going into court and things that

915
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 1: could come out that could be detrimental to owners and

916
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 1: perhaps detrimental to the league. And that is what it

917
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 1: feels like Ian Rappaport has been saying throughout his hits

918
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: on the matter. Today, my guesses, and these are not scores,

919
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 1: because it's just like the Super Robinson thing, aren't scores.

920
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 1: My guess is that this would happen today, so that

921
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 1: everything that goes on one way or the other. But again,

922
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: I am my, am my, that's my lean based on

923
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: just kind of the legalities of the matter and the

924
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: benefits and the and the risks associated with an appeal,

925
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 1: that it would come down today, so that tomorrow is

926
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: just okay, here's a Hall of Fame game, and the weekend,

927
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: the ceremony, which is really the official kickoff of the

928
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: season and one of the great gatherings and spectacles and

929
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: feel good events of the NFL calendar, does not have

930
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 1: a shadow hanging over and of more looming news downside

931
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: up whatever it may be with this, with this situation,

932
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 1: I concur but we'll see, we'll see. I just and

933
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 1: I again, I do believe we will find out soon

934
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 1: one way or the other. That's my guess is. But

935
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: I think it'll be handled today nine am tomorrow. I

936
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: to me it's done today. At some point you'll get

937
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: you'll have some answer one way or another on how

938
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 1: how all of this uh goes all right? Coming up

939
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: here in the second hour of the program, keep you

940
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: updated on everything we're seeing out here at camp in Barria.

941
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 1: You'll also have we'll also be joined by Charles Robinson,

942
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 1: one of the frankly best in the business when it

943
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,919
Speaker 1: comes to in the investigative reporting around the National Football League.

944
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 1: He will join us as well in this final hour

945
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 1: of the program. You have that to look forward to,

946
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,280
Speaker 1: which is nice. You listen to Cleveland Browns Daily in Cleveland,

947
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown's Daily ESP and Cleveland Welcome back to Cleveland

948
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: Brown's Daily. Very happy now to be joined by Brown's

949
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 1: rookie defensive end Alex Right and Alex first day in

950
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: pads coming up. What does that mean to you? I mean,

951
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: it's you're finally getting back to football, you know, not

952
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: just you know, not only just being able to you know,

953
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 1: come out here and practice as a team, but you know,

954
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,439
Speaker 1: being able to have a pass on for the first time.

955
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: It's really bringing the true medium the football back. So

956
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,800
Speaker 1: just not only a mental standpoint, but also a physical standpoint.

957
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: When's the last time you had the pads on November?

958
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 1: Whenever the Boll game was. I think it was December? December?

959
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: Is that crazy? Though? It's been a while, right, it's

960
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: been It's been a good while. It's been a good while.

961
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 1: So I can't wait to have him back on, you know,

962
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: just get the field of them again, you know, just

963
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: to carry that little weight again, you know, get used

964
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: to it. So I missed it, So I can't wait.

965
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 1: How is camping for you so far? Camp? You know,

966
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: I just haven't been, you know, trying to wrestiate a lot,

967
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 1: just trying to take it day by day, step by stuff,

968
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: you know, just trying to get better. You stay, come

969
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 1: in with a positive mindset, great attitude, you know, just

970
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,919
Speaker 1: come in to work. So you know, I'm not really

971
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 1: trying to beat myself up over you know stuff. I'm

972
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: still learning. You know, I'm a rookie at any day,

973
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: so you know it's a learning process. But at any

974
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 1: day is still you know a great a great chance

975
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: to be out here. When you look come out here

976
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: and people come to watch training camp, right, it's very

977
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: easy to see, like in a seven on seven, the

978
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: receivers and the and the secondary going head to head.

979
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 1: It's harder without pads on to understand what's going on,

980
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: at least for a person like myself with the offensive

981
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 1: line and the defensive line. What can you get out

982
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: of those periods where you're just in shells or not

983
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:51,879
Speaker 1: in pads at all? And what what are you trying

984
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: to work on while you're out there? Because it's different, right,

985
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: it's different. I mean the main emphasis is just fundamentals

986
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: and technique. That's really what it is. You know, it

987
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 1: could come later with pads on. You know, the more

988
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 1: you work it, the more repetition you get, it's gonna

989
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: show when the pass come. So it's just you know,

990
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: just that's really just emphasis, just fundamentals and technique. So

991
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 1: what's kind of the biggest difference in that technique for you?

992
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 1: Because in college, you know, you ab put the tape on.

993
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 1: Sometimes you're in the two point stand, sometimes you're down

994
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: in the ground, Sometimes you're inside in that four point stand,

995
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: sometimes you're outside. What from a technique standpoint, maybe not

996
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 1: even just alignment or standing or not standing hand in

997
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,320
Speaker 1: the ground. What's when the biggest change coming here? To

998
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 1: the Browns. Uh, not only just to change, but it's

999
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: like the speed of the game. I say, you know,

1000
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: moving up from I didn't come from you know, a

1001
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: power five, so you know, coming from a group of five,

1002
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: the speed of the game is totally different. So but

1003
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: like I said, you know, just going back to you know,

1004
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:47,879
Speaker 1: day by day. You know, I'm I'm adjusting, uh from

1005
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: what you know coach said, you know, just to proving.

1006
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 1: You know, we're just taking the day by day. But

1007
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like the change of the game.

1008
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 1: You know, everybody, everybody is good, is great in the NFL.

1009
00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: They're here for a reason. So you know, tackles are

1010
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: are a lot quicker than you know that average college tackle,

1011
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: the whole old line just about. So all it is

1012
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: just adjusting and I'm adjusting also. So it's it's it's been.

1013
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 1: It's been a great, great mental standpoint from when I

1014
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: think about it. So it's just everything just speed, just

1015
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: speeded the game. Really, I know, you guys are very

1016
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: early in your defensive install so if you've been just

1017
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: at end, or if you've gotten some time inside in

1018
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 1: some of the rush situations as well, just outside right now,

1019
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: you know, me being able to still learn the system,

1020
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 1: and I just want to be uh comfortable enough and

1021
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 1: you know, gained as much knowledge as I can, you know,

1022
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 1: to have access you know, out there on the edge

1023
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: before I can move inside, you know, So eventually that's

1024
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna work too. But for right now, you know,

1025
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: just just still you know, learn the basis of edge

1026
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 1: rusher outside. How the guys in the room been with

1027
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: in terms of helping you on. It's nice probably sure

1028
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: to have another rookie and Isaiah Thomas going through the

1029
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 1: same things that you are. But you know, you've got

1030
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: Miles and Clowney the starters. There are a lot of

1031
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 1: veterans in there as well. I think a shell has

1032
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 1: been around for while. Stephen Weatherley's been around for wild

1033
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: Chase has been in the league three years. What's that

1034
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: room been like? And is anybody kind of taking you

1035
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: under their wing? It's it's I try to I try

1036
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 1: to model everybody's game by standpoint, you know, uh and

1037
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: uh and in the individuals, you know, I try to

1038
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: be behind Miles as much as I can, uh, you know,

1039
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 1: model his game and stuff like that. But in the

1040
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 1: in the meeting room, it's really like a family. You know,

1041
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 1: everybody is coaching. It's not only you know coach KIV,

1042
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: but you know just every veteran that it is. As

1043
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 1: you mentioned, they anything that Coach KIV doesn't, you know,

1044
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: say that's what they are say. So it's been it's

1045
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 1: been great in the film it's been great in the

1046
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 1: film room. And you know we have fun times and

1047
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: mention it. You know, he's like, yeah, we we love

1048
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: this group, Like I like this group. So everybody, everybody

1049
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: loves one another. Everybody's just trying to get everybody better.

1050
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: So it's a it's a fun group to be around.

1051
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 1: And you know, I can't wait for this season. Wherever

1052
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,280
Speaker 1: you've seen an improvement in yourself from call it rookie

1053
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: mini camp o t as mini camp. But then now

1054
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: that you're back here for training camping about to get

1055
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: those pads on, just the little things, you know, just

1056
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 1: knowing different alignments and knowing different you know, angles and

1057
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:10,399
Speaker 1: techniques and stuff like that. Just suggesting because uh, coming

1058
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: from college, I came from an entire different, you know,

1059
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 1: defensive system to you know, come into a new system,

1060
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 1: you know, just trying to learn it and put things

1061
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 1: put pick up things. That's been put down. So it's

1062
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 1: really just you know, just the basics, and not only

1063
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: the basis, it's the little things out of the basic things.

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00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 1: So I feel like I improved drastically. They're from O, T, A. S.

1065
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 1: You know, just working on it in the off season,

1066
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 1: just trying to get better I can, and then you know,

1067
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: come back up here, you know, and then continue to

1068
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: focus on what you know needs to be focused on

1069
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: any rivalry starting with you in any of the tackles

1070
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 1: that you're excited to get out there on the one

1071
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: on ones and see what you can do. No, not really,

1072
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 1: I'm just ready to showcase what I got and what

1073
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: I came from and what I can you know, what

1074
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: I can show to you know, the old line that

1075
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 1: you know, even though he's a rookie, he has a

1076
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 1: little st behind him, he has a chip on his shoulder.

1077
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 1: So I can't I can't wait to get out there. May. Yeah,

1078
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see it. And I know you

1079
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 1: grew up we talked about already down in Alabama, and

1080
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 1: you're a DeMarcus ware fan growing up. What did you

1081
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: love about his game? Just the way he approached the game,

1082
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: not only as a as a rusher, but as you know,

1083
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 1: a coachable type of you know, voice of the game

1084
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 1: for the age dressers. You know, I would watch. I

1085
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 1: would watch, you know, when he would explain his moves,

1086
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 1: you no, just detail about detail. I would focus on

1087
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 1: those details and then you know, try to mimic him

1088
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 1: to my game. So not only he not only off

1089
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 1: the field, but you know, but on the field, he's

1090
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: like being one of those models that I'll try to

1091
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,399
Speaker 1: you know, try to mimic ethers. So did you guys

1092
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,320
Speaker 1: ever get to connect Na? No, I wish, but we

1093
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 1: never did. You never did, So you grew up idolizing

1094
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 1: de Marcus Ware one of the best to ever do it,

1095
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: and now you're in a room with Miles Garrett, one

1096
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: of the best to ever do it. Is that kind

1097
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: of wild to when it when you think about that,

1098
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 1: it is will I still think about it to this day,

1099
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,879
Speaker 1: like when we still be you know, we call here

1100
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 1: coach me, you know, doing drives and stuff like that.

1101
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 1: But when he's you know, when he's moving around, you know,

1102
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: and I'm watching him, it's like I'm in the room

1103
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: with my gar I still feel how I felt like

1104
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 1: on draft day. So it's crazy to actually be out

1105
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 1: here with him because you know, but it's also a

1106
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 1: great lesson to learn from him physically, you know, like

1107
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,800
Speaker 1: mentally with what he brings to the game and what

1108
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 1: he's you know, it is showing me of what he

1109
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 1: can bring to the game. So just trying to, you know,

1110
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 1: just just learn from him as much as I can,

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00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 1: not only from him, but you know, j D and

1112
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 1: the other veterans also. So it's it's it's been it's

1113
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:37,240
Speaker 1: been a while a while feeling, but it's also getting

1114
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 1: to the point where you know, that's that's my teammate now.

1115
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 1: So I got a lock in a little bit, so

1116
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 1: I good stuff with with Z there and uh now

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00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 1: we're back here live out of camp across Country Mortgage

1118
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 1: Campus and joined by I think, I think one of

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00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: the pre eminent reporters in all of the business, certainly

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00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 1: covering the National Football League, is a great friend of

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00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 1: the program, Charles Robinson of y'all who joining us here

1122
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 1: live Good to see a live but it usually over

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00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 1: the phone on this good to see here, I welcome

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00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: to Barria. By pre eminent, you mean available at a

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00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 1: training camp practice to sit down, but also also I

1126
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: mean we you know, give as a lurker. We tried

1127
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: to get you the combine. We try to get you

1128
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 1: on via phone every single time we can, because I

1129
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 1: think we think we're quite frankly, one of the smartest

1130
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 1: guys when it comes to doing all this stuff. So

1131
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 1: obviously the thing that that's kind of been hanging over

1132
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 1: we get nine am tomorrow is this deadline for the

1133
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 1: NFL to appeal. But before we get into that and

1134
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: your thoughts about that, this is the first time we've

1135
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 1: seen this process play out with a both sides agreeing

1136
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: on uh federal edudication of of this and and this

1137
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 1: process is played out if the penalty is what it is,

1138
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 1: ruled in favor of the National Football League, by the way,

1139
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 1: and in her ruling UM. And so as as you've

1140
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 1: had a couple of days to kind of just sit

1141
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 1: back and look at the process and the endgame of it,

1142
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: is there anything that surprised you about it, anything that

1143
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 1: that was maybe a little different than you thought it

1144
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 1: would be. Well, when I you know, when I read

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00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: through Suell Robinson's decision, um, although she did agree with

1146
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: the NFL, I kind of thought you read through it

1147
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 1: and go, wow, she's definitely siding with the league in

1148
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: a number of different areas, talking about how serious it was,

1149
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 1: the scope of it. Um, you know, I felt like,

1150
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 1: you know, talking about Watson, whether or not I showed remorse,

1151
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 1: all these different aspects. But then she gets to the

1152
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 1: point of the suspension, and you know, I know it

1153
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 1: was pretty clear early in the process when they started

1154
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 1: to go through the hearing that that you know, she

1155
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 1: made the NFL aware like you're not getting the year

1156
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: that you're asking for. Like she like right off the bat,

1157
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 1: from what I understood, she made it clear to them

1158
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 1: that that you're you're asking for a lot when you

1159
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 1: you kind of look at how you had the system

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00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 1: set up. So she goes through the whole process where

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00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 1: she seems to be agreeing with them, but then a

1162
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 1: fundamental disagreement was six games. I mean that that was

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00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 1: certainly I don't think something that the league expected, um

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00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 1: and so, and when she issued the six games, she

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00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 1: pointed out like hey, and and this is me paraphrasing here,

1166
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 1: but she's saying like, this is your system. I'm not

1167
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 1: going to set the precedent for you here. Here's you know,

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00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 1: in the past, if you look at you know, the

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00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 1: kind of uh suspensions that come down this six fits

1170
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 1: and if you're you know, a getting I'm paraphrasing here,

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00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 1: she's saying like, if you're you want to change it

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00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 1: to something fundamentally different and and much longer and much

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00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 1: more significant without any real awareness of any players, you know.

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00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 1: And so basically she's saying like, I get it, I

1175
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 1: understand it, but this is a system you set up.

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00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 1: This is why it's six games, and you know, the

1177
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 1: yearlong band that you're asking for is wildly outside of

1178
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 1: the norm for what your past history is. And and

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00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 1: she was clearly leaning very much on the domestic violence Statute,

1180
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 1: you know, where it's ultimately like, you know, six games

1181
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 1: automatic for for a violation of that. And that's why

1182
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 1: I kind of thought it was too too sort of

1183
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 1: decisions in one it's sort of like, hey, I really

1184
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 1: agree with you, but what you think fundamentally the suspension

1185
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 1: should be, I disagree with that. It was interesting. I

1186
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 1: think the NFL is on notice, um, if this system

1187
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 1: continues way that it is, that they they're gonna have

1188
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 1: to be very careful about what they ask for in

1189
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 1: terms of suspensions, and they might want to look back

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01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 1: on their own precedent first, because now you have an

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01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 1: arbitrated it's like, I'm not gonna do it for you,

1192
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna go on what what you've done in

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01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 1: the past. I'm not creating this whole new system just

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01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 1: because you're asking for it. And distinction of how to

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01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 1: interpret a law that I think people thought that she

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01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 1: was going to rewrite laws and that's not what she did.

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Speaker 1: Know And and another thing too, I hear this a lot,

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01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 1: and so it should be addressed. People keep saying with

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Speaker 1: that's not what was presented. Okay, the arbitrator deals is

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01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 1: what's presented. It was four okay, and and the league

1201
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 1: tried to get five in the fifth hadn't spoken, you know,

1202
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 1: to lead directly. Um, it was it was basically what

1203
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 1: had come out in the media. And you know, so

1204
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 1: she set that fifth aside, and so it's basically you're

1205
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 1: dealing with four you know, four cases that she's you know,

1206
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 1: that are presented to her. Now we can get into

1207
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 1: I know, there's been a big argument about this idea

1208
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 1: of you know, non violent sexual assaults or whatever. And

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01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 1: she did include that phrase as defined by the NFL,

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01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 1: which I thought was interesting because, um, I think it

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01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 1: leaves an interpretation there about whether or not she would

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01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 1: even have defined what she heard in those four cases

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01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 1: of sexual assault. I think people I think the reason

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01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:19,439
Speaker 1: why she puts as defined by the NFL is because

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Speaker 1: she's saying, I'm not defining it as sexual assault. The

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01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 1: NFL is defining it as sexual assault. This is how

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01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 1: it reads. And so when you know when I'm making

1218
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 1: this statement, you have to understand that it's it's by

1219
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 1: their standards, not my STA put that. Every time she

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01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 1: used that word, it was in press by the NFL's

1221
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 1: definition and not the legal and there was and there

1222
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 1: was a reason for that. I think people fully understood that.

1223
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 1: But there was definitely a reason where she's saying, this

1224
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 1: isn't my standard. This is a standard they set and

1225
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 1: and that's why I'm applying it the way that I'm

1226
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 1: applying it. And I think that's an interesting point that

1227
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 1: you bring up, and it's it's so difficult to talk

1228
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 1: about because now certain people, because they can read that

1229
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 1: she said, yes, he did commit sexual assault. Now she

1230
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 1: would say, if you read verbatim by the NFL's definition,

1231
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 1: that people are throwing that around and saying that he

1232
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 1: did that, which is different than the legal definition. Obviously,

1233
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 1: it's nothing about this is fun to talk about. It's

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01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 1: it's it's not fun whatsoever. She also went on to say,

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01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 1: when you mentioned earlier the part about for a non

1236
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 1: a violent sexual crime, which I guess she's at, not crime,

1237
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 1: non violent sexual act or transgression, she felt this was

1238
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 1: the harshest penalty that had ever been levied, so in

1239
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 1: her mind, actually she was trying to go above and

1240
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 1: beyond the precedent for what was presented to her in

1241
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 1: that court. And she pointed out that, you know, based

1242
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 1: on previous precedent, those were there were situations that involve violence.

1243
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 1: She pointed that out, and and so yeah, I mean

1244
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 1: the point that you're making is that, you know, she's saying, look,

1245
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 1: even by the standard, you know, And and again this

1246
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 1: is why we continue to kind of lean back on

1247
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 1: the domestic violence suspensions that are six six games, um,

1248
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 1: those that have happened in the past have involved a

1249
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 1: level of violence. She's saying, what was presented to me

1250
01:02:57,160 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 1: there was there's not a level of violence, you know.

1251
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 1: And and now I know people are there's a very

1252
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 1: you know, significant debate right now, at least in my community,

1253
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 1: in our community about what constitutes violence and and and

1254
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 1: all that. But I'm by going, you know, going by

1255
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 1: the letter of what she puts out and what she heard.

1256
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 1: I just try to stick inside that box, you know.

1257
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 1: And I'm fine with the opinions. Everybody can have opinion,

1258
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 1: you know, and and and approach it the way that

1259
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 1: they want, um. But I'm just trying to stick to

1260
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 1: what was presented to her, what she's saying, what she's

1261
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 1: saying that the NFL's history is, and and that's really

1262
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 1: what's kept it in that box. Now it gets blown up.

1263
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 1: If the NFL comes and appeals this, they fundamentally change.

1264
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 1: They're the ones setting the president and they're saying, we're

1265
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 1: blowing this up. And now if it's ten games or

1266
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 1: twelve games or whatever, you know, if they appeal it

1267
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 1: and they change, they're setting a new standard, um that

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Speaker 1: I think everyone's gonna have to pay close attention to.

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01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, the next time you go

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Speaker 1: through arbitration, arbitrary looks at that and says, Okay, this

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01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 1: is the new standard that you set previously. So that

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01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:02,439
Speaker 1: that Charles Lee to the question of you know, whatever

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01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 1: the NFL is gonna do here before nine am, tomorrow

1274
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 1: and the question of appeal, and Nathan and I we

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01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 1: had Joe Thomas, it was on with us Monday when

1276
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 1: all this is going down, and it was it's like, boy,

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01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 1: there's a lot of risk here from the NFL side

1278
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 1: of appealing this, and you've outlaid outlined a lot of

1279
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 1: that in terms of the precedent and so forth, and

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01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 1: then also potentially owners on stands and all of that

1281
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 1: um and undermining if this process and all of that.

1282
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 1: If how quickly, if if the NFL appeals, how does

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01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 1: the p A respond and how quickly? I mean, do

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01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 1: they file suit immediately? I think it depends what the

1285
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 1: number is that comes in, you know, I don't. I don't.

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01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 1: I don't think an appeal is an automatic. Let's say

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01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 1: they come back with eight games. Do you think that

1288
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 1: would be real quick? Do you think that be against

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01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 1: it would be like appeal it's eight or do you

1290
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 1: think we gotta redo the what's the process of that? No? No, no, no,

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01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, they so if they appeal it, yeah,

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01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 1: I mean that obviously that started. It's okay. They have

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01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 1: two days the n f L p as two days

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01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 1: business days to response. It would be next week They're

1295
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 1: not gonna come out and say, hey, we're appealing it

1296
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 1: x games. No, they're gonna they have to go through

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01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 1: that process. So, um, you know, ultimately there there is

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01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 1: a process that that they I mean, and I'll tell

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01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 1: you right now that's my understanding. Okay, Like again this

1300
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 1: is new. I want people to understand that this this

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01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 1: whole process collectively, uh you know, was just collectively bargain.

1302
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 1: When you talk to the union, you asked them like okay,

1303
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 1: like where is this going. Literally They're like, I don't know.

1304
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 1: We're going through it right now, Like we don't you know,

1305
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 1: we're learning as we go how the process is gonna work.

1306
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 1: And they thought Sue Robinson was getting rule earlier than

1307
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:40,479
Speaker 1: she did and even though she made it pretty clear

1308
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 1: that she was gonna take her time, Um, they had

1309
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 1: to learn what that meant. So um, yeah, I mean,

1310
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 1: from what I understand, we will find out first whether

1311
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 1: or not there's an appeal, and then once the and

1312
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 1: they will lay out the grounds for the appeal, which

1313
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 1: is they have to basically say this is where we

1314
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 1: feel like the judgment was fundamental wrong. And then at

1315
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 1: that point the p A is going to have their

1316
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 1: ability to respond and then either Roger Goodell or his

1317
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 1: designy and I'm sure it would be a designate if

1318
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 1: it comes to that. UM, we'll determine what the what

1319
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 1: the ultimate suspension is. And then at that point, I

1320
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 1: think you have to decide based on the number, are

1321
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 1: you going to federal court over this? And and where

1322
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 1: do we go from here? And I mean Zeke ended

1323
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 1: up playing eight games, right, the first eight games of

1324
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 1: that season. And and another thing to um, just in

1325
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 1: terms of the unpredictability of this process, people forget that

1326
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 1: in the Zeke Elliott case. Eventually, when that started to

1327
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 1: work its way through court, we found out that the

1328
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 1: lead investigator in the Ezekiel Elliott case, who was who

1329
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 1: was handling the alleged victims, said I don't you know,

1330
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think she was credible. I don't

1331
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:54,440
Speaker 1: think this witness was credible. The NFL cast that aside

1332
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 1: and said, nope, we're not. We're suspending them six games anyway.

1333
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:03,040
Speaker 1: And I mean, if there's anything that tells you from

1334
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 1: an optics standpoint, you know, like people ask me, like,

1335
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 1: do you think they're gonna appeal? I'm like, well, if

1336
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 1: I look back historically, some of the things that they've done.

1337
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 1: They've leaned very heavily since the Ray Rice stuff. They've

1338
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 1: leaned very heavily into optics and how it's going to

1339
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 1: play out on their end. And I think about the

1340
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott case where you literally had someone dealing with um,

1341
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 1: the alleged victim in that instance, and said, you know,

1342
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 1: they were just you know, too many inconsistencies and my

1343
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 1: you know, interviews with her and I don't think she's

1344
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 1: she's credible. You would think, okay, falls apart then like

1345
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 1: it's that's it, it's done. No, it wasn't. He's still

1346
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 1: got six games. So UM, if you're trying to apply

1347
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 1: logic to whether or not an appeal happens, keep that

1348
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 1: in mind. You know, I think sometimes optics override lodging.

1349
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 1: And hopefully, as we said, well, the good news is

1350
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 1: we will have will know what the NFL is doing

1351
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 1: sooner rather than later. The deadline would be tomorrow at

1352
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 1: nine am for them to decide whether or not they

1353
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 1: will be appealing, uh this decision by Judge Suell Robinson.

1354
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 1: In the meantime, we know at a minimum that Deshaun

1355
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 1: Watson will not be the Brown's quarterback for those first

1356
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 1: six games. So let's talk about football, which I'm sure

1357
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 1: we'll all be more we'll be more enjoyable for all

1358
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 1: of us. How does that impact this team? And if

1359
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 1: it does stay at six, what do you feel like?

1360
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 1: How do you kind of rank this team and and

1361
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:18,639
Speaker 1: and what this season could be. I mean it's still

1362
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 1: you know, you obviously changes what you do offensively, you know,

1363
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 1: And I think what you're gonna end up seeing them

1364
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:27,519
Speaker 1: do is the obvious things, which is it's gonna be

1365
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 1: a more run predicated, you know, situation. But you're gonna

1366
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:33,640
Speaker 1: find out, you know, Jacoby Pricette not gonna be a

1367
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 1: shotgun guy who's gonna be up you know, under center,

1368
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of play action stuff. I

1369
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 1: will bet you Jacoby Pricette will throw the ball more

1370
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 1: than you think. Um maybe not to the level of

1371
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 1: you know, if Deshaun Watson was under center, but I

1372
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:51,520
Speaker 1: think he's he's an adequate throwing quarterback, particularly with Kevin Stefanski,

1373
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 1: because Kevin Stefanski is going to design easy completions. Let's

1374
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 1: get the ball out as fast as possible, Let's utilize

1375
01:08:57,160 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 1: the tight ends. Um So you know, I think at

1376
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 1: least from an offensive standpoint, it's okay, let's take it

1377
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 1: back to like sort of the beginnings of Baker. You know,

1378
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 1: Baker's figuring it out right, a lot of running the football.

1379
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:11,800
Speaker 1: You know, you're leaning on defense. I mean I would

1380
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:14,519
Speaker 1: assume that that's what, um, you're gonna see in the

1381
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:16,600
Speaker 1: very beginnings on the schedule in front of me. I

1382
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 1: remember looking at it at Carolina. It's not so bad

1383
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:25,759
Speaker 1: at home Jets home Thursday nights, Dealers at Atlanta home Patriots.

1384
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 1: Last two games were the ones where I'm like, they'll

1385
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 1: probably favored in four of those, even with cheer sent

1386
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:33,720
Speaker 1: or or club. I mean, look, it's as the first four, Yeah,

1387
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:35,599
Speaker 1: you're like, those are all winnable games. You know, it's

1388
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 1: a the roster is good enough that, um, you know,

1389
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 1: particularly people are healthy, you should be able to compete

1390
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 1: in all those games. And you know, I think that's

1391
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:46,840
Speaker 1: how they're preparing for it. What's gonna be interesting, though,

1392
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 1: is at some point in camp, Kevin Stefanski's gonna have

1393
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 1: to shift to Okay, Jacoby is our starter, you know,

1394
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 1: now we have to get him prepared to be our starter.

1395
01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 1: And de Shawn you're gonna do things off to the side,

1396
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:01,439
Speaker 1: you know, because we gotta get him starting reps. We

1397
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 1: gotta get him at least for for six games. So, um,

1398
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 1: you know, we'll see. It's interesting, you know, looking at

1399
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 1: the roster, and I know they're feeling pretty good about

1400
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 1: some of the young parts in the secondary, and um,

1401
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:15,599
Speaker 1: I think they expect, you know, Harrison Bryant to take

1402
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 1: a big step forward. Now some opportunities and UM, I'll

1403
01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 1: tell you a kid, I like be curious to see

1404
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 1: how how it plays out that that receiver, the six

1405
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 1: round receiver at Okla. Like that kid. Like that kid,

1406
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:29,680
Speaker 1: I think, I think I think he could you know,

1407
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 1: talk about like people's jones and people were like, wow,

1408
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 1: we found a guy you know, kind of late. I

1409
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 1: like that kid a lot. Yeah, It's it's interesting, guys.

1410
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 1: Is as when we wrap up with Charles, it's it's

1411
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 1: like you do two camps, right, It's like two different

1412
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:44,920
Speaker 1: radio Yeah, the football side of it and then there's uh,

1413
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 1: the Watson side of it. And you know, defensively, you

1414
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 1: marvel at some of these guys who are out here

1415
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:51,639
Speaker 1: and now they've remade this roster and relatively short order.

1416
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:53,720
Speaker 1: But there is this the other part of it as well?

1417
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 1: Before I let you go, there's one other thing and

1418
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:58,719
Speaker 1: that obviously that's a complicated one. But what happened yesterday

1419
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 1: in Miami with all the tentacles of that Charles and

1420
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 1: Brady behind like did did did one of the I

1421
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 1: mean usually reversally kind of considered the greatest quarterback in

1422
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 1: NFL history, I think justifiably did was his retirement a

1423
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:16,640
Speaker 1: ruse yeah? And then something that yeah, And I mean

1424
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:18,719
Speaker 1: it was funny because it was reporting to that effect

1425
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 1: and everybody you know, lost their minds, particularly it's not true.

1426
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:25,800
Speaker 1: It was all true, true, And it's what I think

1427
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 1: is funny is that you know, Brady doesn't get hit

1428
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:30,760
Speaker 1: in the FALLOUTA doesn't get hit in the fallout, which

1429
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 1: are kind of like who doesn't get hit when the collaborators? Right?

1430
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:37,120
Speaker 1: Like that a precedent though that players and coaches can tamper,

1431
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:42,680
Speaker 1: owners cannot tamper. I I think that again, I I

1432
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 1: think either Brady and Payton collaborator Donne, did you know

1433
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 1: the agent for the two did what he jumped on

1434
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 1: the grenade and did what he could to make sure

1435
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 1: they were protected. So that that was me You know,

1436
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:53,720
Speaker 1: I'm the one who's who was really kind of behind

1437
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 1: the hijinks here. Well, they can't touch Donnie, you know,

1438
01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:58,320
Speaker 1: and if he jumps on that grenade, it keeps them

1439
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:00,599
Speaker 1: from you know, really going after right and those guys,

1440
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 1: which I don't think they want to go after those

1441
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 1: guys anyway. I mean, you know, Brady's Brady, and Peyton

1442
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:05,960
Speaker 1: is going to be the one of the highest paid

1443
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 1: coaches in the NFL when he comes back, and um,

1444
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:10,800
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean that that whole thing was was

1445
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 1: wild to me? Is is you know, you read through

1446
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 1: the whole thing and I'm like, okay. They're like, yes,

1447
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 1: this is all true, except for the part about about

1448
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:23,920
Speaker 1: you know, uh, incentivizing losing games, which is what would

1449
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 1: hurt the league. They're like, all this stuff that hurts

1450
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:28,320
Speaker 1: the team and the owner is all true. The thing

1451
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 1: that hurts the league. Come on, like the harm one

1452
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:36,599
Speaker 1: the owner owner jokes around about. You know, it's funny

1453
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:38,080
Speaker 1: because they need to deny it. And they did not

1454
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 1: deny that anything was said. They just said the wording

1455
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 1: and the way it was received or blah blah blah.

1456
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, this is come on, that's just my

1457
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:50,240
Speaker 1: favorite part was too They're like, you know, Stephen Ross

1458
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 1: had said some things in the organization of prioritizing draft

1459
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:55,720
Speaker 1: position over winning or whatever. But he stopped saying that

1460
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:58,720
Speaker 1: after Brian Flores wrote it in a memo and put

1461
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:01,639
Speaker 1: it out on the team. Oh yeah, of course, even

1462
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 1: an owner is smart enough to go, yeah, I should

1463
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:05,679
Speaker 1: probably shut up at this point because this guy's putting

1464
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:08,840
Speaker 1: on paper. And by the way, there are a lot

1465
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:10,639
Speaker 1: of teams that when you get to a certain point

1466
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 1: in the season, that probably is the mindset. At this point,

1467
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:16,759
Speaker 1: we cannot win anymore this year, we are not getting

1468
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:20,000
Speaker 1: to the playoffs. Let's position ourselves to do that next year.

1469
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:21,679
Speaker 1: And how do you do that? The way the system

1470
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:23,680
Speaker 1: is set up with no lottery, it is to have

1471
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 1: the worst record you can possibly have. How how how

1472
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:29,519
Speaker 1: pissed is Robert Craft? Is Stephen Rosse? Like, like, you're

1473
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:32,759
Speaker 1: it's twenty nineteen, You're trying to keep together a marriage

1474
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 1: that's fallen apart between Tom Brady and Bill Belichick, and

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01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 1: you got this guy outside who's like meddling with your core, Like,

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01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 1: you know Craft, the Glazers, um, you know, Rita Benson.

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01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:48,559
Speaker 1: They should all be pissed at this and I would

1478
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:51,600
Speaker 1: think you'd, you know, punitive measures. We'll see how it

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01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 1: plays out down the line. At some point, Um Steam

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01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 1: ros Can needs something. Do you need some funding? Seating fund?

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01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 1: There's gonna be a rule change. You know that that

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01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:05,719
Speaker 1: you know he or his team or whatever be pushing

1483
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 1: or you know he's not gonna get any favors. I

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01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 1: can put it. I can put it to you that way. No, No,

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01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 1: he's not. Charles excellent, great having you. This is this

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01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:16,479
Speaker 1: is why I said pre eminent. That's right. Smarter, you

1487
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:18,720
Speaker 1: get smarter. Thank you for your time. By the way,

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01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:21,400
Speaker 1: Nick Chuck just ran a four one four day. He

1489
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 1: was blurring again. He was causes blurry businesses shot out

1490
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:26,720
Speaker 1: of a candidate's like, he's as good as he's been.

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01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 1: It's just stunning to see. And just think about when

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01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 1: we do have Deshaun Watson and teams are worried about

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01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 1: us throwing the football on every down and all of

1494
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:38,640
Speaker 1: a sudden you're facing light boxes. What he's gonna do, Well,

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01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:41,639
Speaker 1: that's the scheme right now, guys, until until gets back

1496
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:45,280
Speaker 1: on the field, that's the scheme. It's good, a good one.

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01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:47,880
Speaker 1: That's good scheme. And they have twenty seven behind him

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01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:49,479
Speaker 1: and thirty. I mean there's there's a few of those guys.

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Speaker 1: Charles thinks Manks. Appreciate you a great deal, all right,

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Speaker 1: Coming up next, well around the NFL and explain we're

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Speaker 1: Bow and z Here on a first Friday, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: need a cooling beverage tonight around the pool, my friend. Uh,

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01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 1: it's a bit of a steamer. We had. We had

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Speaker 1: some action here though, my friend, what are your copious

1519
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:52,880
Speaker 1: notes as you tear into the phone book? Well, so

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01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:55,600
Speaker 1: far to the first session. They usually called that you

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01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:57,760
Speaker 1: have a copious notes book. I do, but right now

1522
01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:00,760
Speaker 1: I'm doing it on my phone because all written work

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01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 1: with you. Though I know it's easier, but I liked

1524
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:04,680
Speaker 1: when you had a notebook of copious notes. I have

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01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:10,519
Speaker 1: a file of cope file a book. Yes, thanks. So far,

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01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:12,760
Speaker 1: what we've seen, they've done the perimeter period here in

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01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 1: the early going. A couple of big runs, one with

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01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:17,400
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb and then one Jerome Ford. You really saw

1529
01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 1: the speed that they love about. Jerome Ford, the young

1530
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 1: man out of Cincinnati, had one that appeared to be

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01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 1: untouched on a run to the left side for about

1532
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:27,600
Speaker 1: fifty yards. It was a touchdown and obviously you know

1533
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 1: there we're not tackling, we're not in pads, so you

1534
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 1: know the defenders will they do this this kind of

1535
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 1: a gesture, which if our stream was working, you'd be

1536
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:35,840
Speaker 1: able to see where they think they touch him up

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01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:38,200
Speaker 1: and that's a tackle, not always a tackle, but that

1538
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:40,160
Speaker 1: wouldn't looked like he got through there and had some

1539
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 1: nice room to run. They tried to bomb on a

1540
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:45,479
Speaker 1: beautiful kind of a play action boot to David and

1541
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:48,599
Speaker 1: joku uh and just great coverage as well, just could

1542
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 1: not fully connect on that. That was one of the

1543
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 1: big plays that got You can hear a little buzz

1544
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:55,800
Speaker 1: from the crowd. Then KEVINCEI Fancy just brought everybody in together.

1545
01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 1: And what they're doing is something that we saw them

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01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 1: do on Monday, which is it looks like a red

1547
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 1: zone period where neither side are wearing helmets. So they're

1548
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:08,360
Speaker 1: just gonna kind of jog through a team what looks

1549
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:12,879
Speaker 1: like a red zone period, nobody in helmets, no contact whatsoever,

1550
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:14,760
Speaker 1: and they move kind of at a jog through pace,

1551
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:16,959
Speaker 1: and so that's a way to work out their alignments,

1552
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:19,760
Speaker 1: their techniques, the releases, all of that without it being

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01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:21,800
Speaker 1: anything that would lead to any type of contact. Now,

1554
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:24,479
Speaker 1: the quarterback John Watson, he will still wear his helmet

1555
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 1: in this period, but nobody on offense or defense is

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01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 1: wearing helmets and they just kind of jogged through the

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01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 1: first second and get it going there. So just doing

1558
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:34,759
Speaker 1: some work red zone situational football. It's always an emphasis

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01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 1: of Kevin Stefanski's Yeah, it's you you bring up your

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01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:40,120
Speaker 1: own forward. I saw a couple of his runs yesterday

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01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:45,320
Speaker 1: that we're awfully impressive, really an impressive athlete. We talked

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01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 1: so much about Chubbin and Hunt, as we should. The

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01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:50,160
Speaker 1: other two might be pretty special to we know what

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01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:52,120
Speaker 1: de Ernest can do. We talked about that game against

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01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:54,240
Speaker 1: uh Denver in terms of kind of the blueprint for

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01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:57,720
Speaker 1: Jacoby percent he was two, and that game against that

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01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:01,880
Speaker 1: dead for deep ground the player of the week, and

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01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:04,000
Speaker 1: then and now sudden you add forward to that as well.

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01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 1: It is an embarrassment of riches in the running back room.

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01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:09,280
Speaker 1: It's a stunning level of talent all the way through.

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01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:11,240
Speaker 1: Ford seems to be a hit. He is a hit.

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01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 1: And I go back to the opening of O T

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01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:15,719
Speaker 1: A S and Mini camp by the way, we should

1574
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 1: let it reby know of Mary Cooper is back at

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01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 1: practice today for the Browns, which is good after missing

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01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:22,760
Speaker 1: yesterday with a little bit of an ankle injury. Um.

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01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 1: One of the reasons go back to the beginning of O. T.

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01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 1: S in the mini camps and and it was said,

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01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:30,679
Speaker 1: yea Demetric Felton's a running back. And it didn't take

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01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:33,080
Speaker 1: very long, I think for them to get a look

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01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:36,840
Speaker 1: at Jerome Ford and say, you know what, the metric

1582
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 1: your best shot to make this team is to go

1583
01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 1: back to wide receiver. Now, with the injuries wide receiver,

1584
01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 1: he's he's been able to fill in and and he's

1585
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:44,559
Speaker 1: done a good job working out of the slot. Right now,

1586
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:46,320
Speaker 1: is you see Cooper's out there right with the with

1587
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 1: the first team, uh and quarterback to Shaun Watson. But

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01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:55,679
Speaker 1: I think Ford showed them immediately natural runner, natural pass catcher.

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01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:57,559
Speaker 1: And we go back to, you know, from the great

1590
01:18:57,640 --> 01:19:00,800
Speaker 1: Dane Brugler, from his beast, that little actoid that you know,

1591
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:04,839
Speaker 1: his team in high school was so loaded. And remember

1592
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:08,799
Speaker 1: the story that you know Nick Saban landed a helicopter

1593
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:10,799
Speaker 1: at the fifty yard lane to recruit him to Alabama

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01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 1: as a running back. And yet his last year in

1595
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:16,479
Speaker 1: high school he didn't play running back. He had twenty

1596
01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 1: two carries. I think that year he played slot receiver

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01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 1: and ended up averaging like eighteen yards of catch, having

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01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:26,160
Speaker 1: eight hundred yards receiving in high school because the other

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01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:28,240
Speaker 1: two running backs also got D one offers. But that's

1600
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:30,240
Speaker 1: how talented he was. He ends up going to Cincinnati

1601
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:33,520
Speaker 1: last year nineteen touchdowns. You know sets the school franchise

1602
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:36,559
Speaker 1: or the school record for rushing touchdowns in a season.

1603
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:38,920
Speaker 1: He's a talented guy, and I know that they have

1604
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 1: been very impressed by him already. Is not only a runner,

1605
01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:44,160
Speaker 1: but a natural pass catcher out of the backfield. And

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01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 1: so I think, yeah, your four tailbacks are setting it.

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01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:50,720
Speaker 1: It's it's the best one too, it's the best one

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01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 1: to three and it's probably the best one to three.

1609
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:55,679
Speaker 1: Four in the lead. Was that DPJ that just climbed

1610
01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:58,800
Speaker 1: out of Umari. He's been great in the red zone.

1611
01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 1: Is chemistry with Watson is definitely been on display. But again,

1612
01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:03,519
Speaker 1: just how people understand what's happening right now. They are

1613
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:05,519
Speaker 1: doing a little bit of a red zone drill, but

1614
01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:08,719
Speaker 1: no one is wearing helmets. They are not wearing helmets

1615
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:10,519
Speaker 1: as they try to just kind of go through. This

1616
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 1: gets them working in a very safe manner and probably

1617
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:15,400
Speaker 1: I'll allow you know, heat escapes out of your head

1618
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:18,080
Speaker 1: and it's a hot one out there. Yeah it is. Yeah.

1619
01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 1: By the way, if you're you're you got your kids

1620
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:22,719
Speaker 1: in the area and you're doing your your high school football,

1621
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:27,400
Speaker 1: you're little guy football and you've got the helmets on today. Uh,

1622
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 1: if the NFL is doing it maybe yat to to

1623
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:31,760
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? You know what I mean,

1624
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 1: coach um No. And it's interesting that the Amari climbing

1625
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 1: the ladder on that one to make the catch, uh

1626
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 1: from from de Shawn on on that play in this

1627
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:41,280
Speaker 1: red zone drill that they're doing. I've seen about that

1628
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:44,000
Speaker 1: a little bit. With the receiver position. Um and you

1629
01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 1: you mentioned, uh, the emergence certainly of the young man

1630
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:49,960
Speaker 1: from Oklahoma. And now you say to yourself, let's go

1631
01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 1: back to the last time Watson was great and look

1632
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:56,360
Speaker 1: at who the receivers were. This is the other thing

1633
01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:58,120
Speaker 1: that we have to start to wrap our minds around.

1634
01:20:58,479 --> 01:21:01,640
Speaker 1: When he plays for this team, he will elevate them all.

1635
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:04,680
Speaker 1: You know. That's that is another part of this that

1636
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:07,040
Speaker 1: you know, typically think we gotta get the best. Well

1637
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:10,080
Speaker 1: not necessarily, it's not required that you that you have that.

1638
01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 1: And by the way, you have a number one. You

1639
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 1: have a number one in Marie Cooper. I think in

1640
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 1: some ways some people kind of were sleeping on a

1641
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:18,639
Speaker 1: Mari because the Cowboys get got so little in return,

1642
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:20,519
Speaker 1: Like it feels we kind of fleeced him. Once you

1643
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 1: saw the receiver, it was you know, it's kind of

1644
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 1: like people forget that. Oh yeah, he is a number one.

1645
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:28,720
Speaker 1: He is definitely number one. And going back to your

1646
01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:30,680
Speaker 1: point that you made about the Houston Texans and oh,

1647
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 1: by the way, that year, de Shaun Watson threw forty

1648
01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:36,520
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty three yards, thirty three touchdowns, seven interceptions,

1649
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:39,320
Speaker 1: completing seventy percent of his passes, and of course lad

1650
01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:43,719
Speaker 1: the league in passing that year. His receivers, his leading

1651
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:47,880
Speaker 1: receivers in terms of receiving yards. That year, you had

1652
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:51,800
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks with eleven fifty. Remember DeAndre Hopkins was gone,

1653
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:54,840
Speaker 1: gone down to Kansas City. I mean, I'm sorry to Arizona.

1654
01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 1: Will Fuller eight seventy nine, a thirty year and that

1655
01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:00,639
Speaker 1: was in eleven games. A thirty year old Randall Cobb

1656
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:04,679
Speaker 1: forty one, Jordan's Aikin's the tight end four hundred and three,

1657
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:08,760
Speaker 1: Kiki Kutie four hundred, David Johnson three fourteen out of

1658
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:11,800
Speaker 1: the backfield, Darren Fells former Brown, three twelve and four

1659
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:15,000
Speaker 1: touchdowns for Fells. Duke Johnson, a former Brown, had two

1660
01:22:15,080 --> 01:22:18,240
Speaker 1: forty nine. Chad Hanson. I think that's like a play

1661
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:22,400
Speaker 1: two thirty six Pharaoh Brown former Brown one sixty three

1662
01:22:22,439 --> 01:22:26,599
Speaker 1: and Kenny Stills. So you know Fuller, good player, Brandon

1663
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:29,800
Speaker 1: Cook's good player, that's well passed your prime. Randall Cob

1664
01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:32,400
Speaker 1: not a tight end that would be one that would

1665
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:34,839
Speaker 1: be considered of note or certainly up for the contract

1666
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:37,439
Speaker 1: that a David and JOKEU got. And yet you know

1667
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 1: a Kiki Kuti is catching of the targets to him

1668
01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:43,639
Speaker 1: averaging ten yards of target. Fells is at eleven point

1669
01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:46,200
Speaker 1: one yards of target, Farrell Brown ten point two yards

1670
01:22:46,240 --> 01:22:49,120
Speaker 1: of target, Cob nine point two yards of target. He

1671
01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:51,760
Speaker 1: didn't do that with Aaron Rodgers last year. So this

1672
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:54,320
Speaker 1: is it's an incredible thing. And he actually led the

1673
01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:57,720
Speaker 1: NFL in yards per attempt that season at right around nine.

1674
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:01,439
Speaker 1: He's incredibly talented. He will elevate the people around him.

1675
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:04,720
Speaker 1: To your point, here's the other thing about that. He

1676
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:07,600
Speaker 1: also was not playing behind this offensive line or in

1677
01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:11,680
Speaker 1: front of these tailbacks. Nope. So that that's when you

1678
01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:14,320
Speaker 1: go through those stats and we're talking about the receiver comparison,

1679
01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 1: you make a very good argument that this receiving group,

1680
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:18,639
Speaker 1: when healthy, is better than that one that he had

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Speaker 1: that year. This offensive line is most especially better, and

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01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:25,200
Speaker 1: this running game is night and day. That's a grand

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01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:28,920
Speaker 1: canyon gap between the remnants of David Johnson and Nick Chubb,

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01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:32,080
Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt, Derris Johnson, and of course in Jerome FOURD.

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01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:34,639
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's an incredible difference. So you want

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01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:38,120
Speaker 1: to we we've talked so much about how how you know,

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Speaker 1: you talk about you look for a little questions or

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01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:43,800
Speaker 1: holes or whatever you have in Watson is an elevator

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01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 1: of of of the product on the field that's gonna

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01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:49,840
Speaker 1: help everybody. And and by the way, our guys that

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01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:51,960
Speaker 1: the things that we are going to provide to him

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01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:54,760
Speaker 1: are going to elevate him. Right, It's a it's a

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01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:58,800
Speaker 1: racially beneficial it's a great football situation. I mean, there's yes,

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01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:01,080
Speaker 1: there's no doubt about that. And that's why a team

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01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 1: that is you know, led by and Andrew Berry and

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01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:07,519
Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski and Paul de Podesta makes such a drastic

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01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 1: move because you had a guy who was a top

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01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:11,640
Speaker 1: five player in the league who now will be in

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01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 1: a significantly better situation than he has been in his career.

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01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 1: And you've got now guys on our team who will

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01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:20,800
Speaker 1: be playing with the best quarterback that they've ever played with.

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01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:24,160
Speaker 1: And so that's how things get better for everybody. That's

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01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 1: what you call a football win win, And that was

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01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:30,040
Speaker 1: the goal, that's the expectation, and that's why the Browns

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01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:33,800
Speaker 1: made the moves that they did make. Yeah, yeah, absolutely,

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01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:36,559
Speaker 1: so as today this will be it. This practice will

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01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:38,519
Speaker 1: wrap up. What are we doing our about forty five

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01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 1: minutes from now something like that around three thirty that

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01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:43,760
Speaker 1: we'll wrap up this practice and then off tomorrow and

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01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:46,680
Speaker 1: then we're back in a padded practice on Friday, UM

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01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:48,679
Speaker 1: and then through the weekend and then all of a sudden,

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01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:52,680
Speaker 1: we're onto Jacksonville, onto Jacksonville. Like I said, we are

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01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:55,559
Speaker 1: nine days away from the preseason opener in Jacksville. In fact,

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01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:57,360
Speaker 1: we are one week away from when this team will

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01:24:57,439 --> 01:25:00,320
Speaker 1: depart down to Jacksonville. They're gonna go down on day,

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01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 1: according to head coach Covin Stefanski, get an extra day

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01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:05,240
Speaker 1: down there to do some work in Jacksonville prior to

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01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:10,000
Speaker 1: that game on Friday. And so yeah, it's close. Man,

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01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:13,240
Speaker 1: the hour is here. It's wild. It feels like camp.

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01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:15,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if it feels different to me. It

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01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:17,840
Speaker 1: feels like normally camp goes for a little while longer

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01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:19,559
Speaker 1: before you have a game, and yet here we are

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01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 1: about to get right into it and it obviously must

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01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:24,479
Speaker 1: be very normal. Well, no, I'm sure it is. I

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01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:26,720
Speaker 1: think it's because of what we alluded to the end

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01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:29,479
Speaker 1: of the Robinson interview. It's like you're doing two jobs.

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01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:34,519
Speaker 1: You're monitoring two things. You're monitoring you know, rulings and

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01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:37,800
Speaker 1: appeals and a football team, and you're you're doing two jobs.

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01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:41,880
Speaker 1: So it's like split brain. Yeah, it's it's hard. It's

1730
01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:43,720
Speaker 1: hard to do both and you're you're sitting up here,

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01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:45,000
Speaker 1: I know you're doing the same thing. You're trying to

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01:25:45,080 --> 01:25:47,760
Speaker 1: balance like the news part of it and also oh,

1733
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:49,880
Speaker 1: yes we have a football team out here. Uh that

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01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:52,600
Speaker 1: that's really good and and some of the developments that

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01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:54,040
Speaker 1: we're seeing there. But I think a lot of those

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01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:56,720
Speaker 1: things um have been on full display. And I think

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01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:58,519
Speaker 1: this this rookie class looks I mean, we have you

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01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:01,000
Speaker 1: seen David bell Yett and he didn't up anything, No,

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01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:04,040
Speaker 1: and you want to see himper But Kade York has

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01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:06,400
Speaker 1: been great, He's been perfect so far in training camp

1741
01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:10,080
Speaker 1: you're talking about not just Cade Perion's had a nice camp.

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01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 1: You go m j Emerson and They love m j Emerson,

1743
01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:16,280
Speaker 1: they love his competitiveness. Uh, they think it's pretty cool.

1744
01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:17,559
Speaker 1: One thing that we're looking at right now, you see

1745
01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:19,240
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson has walked over and he's staring at a

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01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:22,759
Speaker 1: TV monitor. The Browns this year have multiple TV monitors

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01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:25,840
Speaker 1: set up by the field so that you can go

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01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:29,240
Speaker 1: and watch the play before in real time. It's basically

1749
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:32,720
Speaker 1: having the film wired right into those monitors so that

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01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:34,800
Speaker 1: they were able to look at what the play that

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01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 1: just happened and get that real time feedback, which is

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01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:40,599
Speaker 1: actually really cool. Is really cool. Yeah, this is hopefully

1753
01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:42,120
Speaker 1: we can get some technology that so we can just

1754
01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:44,680
Speaker 1: stream out to the people. Gibbe, that's all they want.

1755
01:26:45,439 --> 01:26:49,360
Speaker 1: Frustrated look at Port Gibbe. I hate when he said, well,

1756
01:26:49,439 --> 01:26:51,800
Speaker 1: we're a long ways from yesterday when he physically moved

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01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:57,080
Speaker 1: a speaker. Apparently there were big consequences for that. Bow

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Speaker 1: Really God, well, he's still here, so much more to come.

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Speaker 1: out there, just thriving, absolutely thriving. All the luminarias are

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Speaker 1: that's for the next level. What in terms of what

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Speaker 1: folks will be be seeing out here through the rest

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Speaker 1: of the day, buddy, what do we what do we

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Speaker 1: got again? Not in pads today? So my expectation will

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01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:43,599
Speaker 1: get some seven on seven competitive periods. Right now. They're

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Speaker 1: doing some special teams work. Helmets are still off and

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01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:48,680
Speaker 1: so you know, being smart and the heat being judicious

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01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:50,519
Speaker 1: with this team and they get a day off tomorrow,

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01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:51,920
Speaker 1: so I think we'll get some seven on seven and

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01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:54,439
Speaker 1: some good team work to end the day. Here see

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01:28:54,479 --> 01:28:56,760
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks kind of throwing the ball on one side.

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Speaker 1: They're going through some special team setups on the other side.

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Speaker 1: And and that's another good day. And there were another

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Speaker 1: healthy day of work here for the brown We'll be

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Speaker 1: here before we know it. Jacksonville next week in a

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01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:10,200
Speaker 1: game tomorrow. NFLC hard knocks this weekend. Right, it's all happening,

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Speaker 1: It's all happened, all happening. The next level is coming

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